WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:07.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagon Zalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:13.480 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. He sure your most prized possessions, 3 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:18.800 kat z R two Sad and I Heeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, everybody, 4 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:21.120 Welcome to While on the Ball. You know, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 5 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:24.600 I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jagon's OZ. Got a boy Devon in today, 6 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:27.559 so he shouldn't have a good show. Uh, I guess a lot 7 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:31.839 of review to talk about, right football? Yeah, some basketball hasn't really 8 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:37.479 broken any news yet, although uh balls Clara, good for him, yep, 9 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.000 I'm sure he'll get some good chances there. Yeah, you know, 10 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:44.520 and again you know, some somebody said, you know, one of our 11 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:52.159 one of our Facebook friends said something like, uh like he he he didn't 12 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:55.159 get a good enough shot in Arizona. I'm like, if he would have 13 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:57.320 been any good at Arizona, he would have played at Airs, he would 14 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.920 have played. Yeah, and Tommy shortened his bet, short his bench a 15 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:04.840 bench. Um why because those guys, Because those guys weren't playing to a 16 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.719 level he needed. Sure. Sure the year before he was great in some 17 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.400 fill in roles, right, Yeah, the guy could play, he could 18 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:17.040 play somewhere, right. He can't play Arizona, right, and there's no, 19 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.480 no, nothing wrong with that. He's a good kid, uh, 20 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.359 you know, and and he can play somewhere, but he's not he's not 21 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:27.120 what we call Arizona good. It wasn't good enough to play here. If 22 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.760 he had been good enough to play here, he would have played. Tommy 23 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.359 would have played, tom would have played, I think, Yeah, Tommy. 24 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:36.439 Tommy's life depends on the number of wins he has, right, and 25 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.040 he's gone ball could get him some wins, he would have played. He's 26 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:42.400 gonna do whatever he can to get, you know, with the guys he's 27 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:44.959 got here. And why would he Why would if he was good enough to 28 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.400 play, why would he not have played him? Right? Right? So 29 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:52.359 now we're just kind of winning word on the Uh the transfer transfer ors of 30 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.519 from Creton. I guess one of them made a visit here this weekend, 31 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.280 and uh, he could be announcing any time. He went to Gonzaga on 32 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.920 Friday, So we'll see what happens there. Yeah, I'm excited for our 33 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.159 guest today, very much, so Adam Lazaris. Right, we've been wanting 34 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:13.840 to have this conversation for a while. Uh with with with somebody you know 35 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:16.800 inside on the n I L there we had, we had, we talked 36 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:22.120 about nil right before it was gonna start right with the now senator against what 37 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:24.479 didn't he Vegas? What? Oh yeah, oh yeah he's uh no, 38 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:28.120 no, no, all you're talking about um, um the Vegas guy. 39 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:32.759 Yeah. Um, he's secretary of state in in in Nevada. Um, 40 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.319 I can't before he was not that before we talked to he was, well, 41 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.039 he was running for that when we talked to him, Um, why 42 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:45.520 can't I think of his name? If my brother can tell you why remember, 43 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:49.919 brothers can say he's gonna send that year any second, Um, Cisco 44 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.680 Aguilar. So um, he's uh, you know, he was running for 45 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:58.240 secretary of state in Nevada and he won. He was sending on some ni 46 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:01.000 els. Yeah, but he's he's some in a stuff with with with Arizona 47 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:05.719 assist and so now um he's out of that and Adam Lazarus is now the 48 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.919 he's the CEO of it. So he'll be on and we'll we'll ask him 49 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:12.000 spannal questions. I don't know what what he's at liberty to. I think 50 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.319 he's just speaking to h Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll ask him. 51 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:16.439 We'll ask him. You get answers, we get answer. I spoke to 52 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.560 him briefly this morning, just to kind of heads up on what we're going 53 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.680 to talk about. And I just don't you know I'm talking about And you 54 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.560 know there's only two. There's only two, right, this one and Wilbur 55 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:30.439 and then and then well and that I think Cisco was with the Wilburn Wilmo 56 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:31.879 one. Oh maybe you okay, yeah, yeah, yeah kay, that 57 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:35.560 makes sense. And then there's a third one, and it's you're on your 58 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.479 own pretty much. Yeah, if you're gonna go find something, we'll find 59 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:40.199 something on your own. Right. That should be the way it should, 60 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:45.159 Arizona assist. I believe think that's the one where Wilburn Wilma is the one 61 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:49.520 where you come to the U of A or if you want to if you 62 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:52.639 want to get a deal with a U of A player, you know, 63 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:55.080 that's more like through the U of A. But you you get you know, 64 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:58.879 they'll hook you up with a player or whatever, an athlete and a 65 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.639 different sports. Not not basketball, right because this is basketball with that, 66 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.439 this is just basketball. Oh okay, I didn't that. I didn't know. 67 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.479 Yeah, I didn't know either until he told me this morning. So 68 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:10.199 we'll talk more. We'll talk more. I could be wrong, but I 69 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.199 think that's the case. So that'll be fun. Because everyone thinks it's gonna 70 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.919 be the end of college athletics. Well it's not gonna be the end. 71 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.519 It's just gonna be way different. But it's it's it's And I was with 72 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:24.399 somebody this morning, another booster who's uh says it's not good. It's just 73 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:29.399 not good. No, the rich get richer pretty much, and the are 74 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.000 the road or are they really? I mean, what we know about it 75 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:35.639 right now because those you know, kids are leaving big school you know, 76 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:41.199 those those big schools. You know, there's people transferring from USC and football, 77 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:46.160 you know USC football players and Oregon football players and Kentucky basketball players and 78 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:50.959 Duke basketball players and North Carolina basketball players. I don't know that you automatically 79 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:55.600 assume that the rich are gonna get richer in this because they're you know, 80 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:58.480 guys are guys are leaving for a lot of reason, right, No, 81 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.839 I get that, I get that, But the but the guys with the 82 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:05.079 most money, the organizations or schools are going to get some of the elite 83 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:09.959 of the elite, And I don't disagree with you them leaving, right, 84 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.040 But some people are leaving for playing time, right, But that's some cash, 85 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.639 we'll see. That's the thing is people players are still leaving for playing 86 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.480 time, and so I think that, yes, it's you know, money 87 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:23.639 is a big deal of it. But you know, still, if a 88 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:27.319 kid goes and he's getting two hundred thousand dollars a year and he's not playing, 89 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.439 he's gonna go find a place where he can get two hundred thousand dollars 90 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.720 years and play. No question. I won't disagree with you who you're there. 91 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:38.399 But the rumors of for Sker and we didn't notice at the time that 92 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.879 we had him on the showers, he's gonna make a lot of money at 93 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.600 West Virginia, like a lot of money. Yeah, more money than I 94 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:48.360 will make in the next ten years maybe or maybe eight years for play one 95 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:53.759 year at West Virginia. Wow, you know what, And look, if 96 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.759 that's where you want to spend your money, then more power to You've got 97 00:05:56.759 --> 00:06:00.199 it to throw good point, go ahead, he guess why you know, 98 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.920 we as fans maybe that maybe Arizonly gets better players and we we we get 99 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:09.199 we get the benefit of that. So so some again, some guy I 100 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.000 was talking to, he says, he's not worth that much. I'm thinking, 101 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.000 it's like one of those cards that we had with George. Right, 102 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:17.399 if you're willing to pay it, it's worth that's what it's worth. Right. 103 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.199 If he if he is worth that much, if somebody's gonna be willing 104 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:24.439 to give him that one, that's what he's worth. That's that's the market. 105 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.439 So that's the world we live in. I was born. I'm going 106 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:30.920 to talk to my my dad when I get to heaven and say, Dad, 107 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:34.040 how come you couldn't have better genes? I could have been a ball 108 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:38.680 player. No, yeah, you know, I think my son says that, 109 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.879 but he's hoping that, you know, each generation gets better. So 110 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:45.160 we're hoping that my son, my grandson, who was not four months old 111 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.160 today, that he's gonna have that you know, that he's gonna be six 112 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:51.959 feet tall and you know, and be able to were you know, we 113 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:56.680 see if we can make him into a left handed relief pitcher. Yeah, 114 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:59.759 yeah, two innings of game, Yeah, go out of there and throw 115 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.160 two, two, three, four or five innings a week left hand or 116 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:06.000 get a couple of guys out face your three batters and make two hundred million 117 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:11.000 dollars. Yeah in a career. Good enough for me. It's a bad 118 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.839 deal. Yeah, Devin, you were playing the wrong You're in the journalism 119 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.199 department. What the hell are you thinking? Long spot for money? Exactly 120 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.680 exactly exactly what you're having fun? But you're having fun. Okay, what 121 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:26.279 else women's softball you played? Do you? You were covering them this shoe 122 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:30.439 weekend? We oh, well, luck at you. I'm that alternate intern 123 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:36.040 to p J. Brown, So okay gets the priority on stuff. Lucky 124 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:41.120 you missed it. They wow, how how much did it sting to lose 125 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.759 a game on a three run home by the you know point of the players 126 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:49.680 who transferred from Arizona teams? I mean, she wins the game. You 127 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:55.040 go, it couldn't that couldn't be any worse. Caitlin Low couldn't have had 128 00:07:55.079 --> 00:08:01.079 anything worse happened to her this weekend than that. Uh, like your thoughts 129 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.920 and we get into arguments about blue blogs and all that. I think Arizone's 130 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:09.879 a blue blood softball team, right, and it's it hasn't been that good 131 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.279 in a long time. Um, and they're talking about Pitchet, how that 132 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.879 it is or not as good as it used to be. Obviously that's obvious. 133 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.959 But will they ever get and not will you ever get back? But 134 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.800 it's been it's been a brutal stretch and it's been a bad stretcher. And 135 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.920 I mean when you think about those, there's only been a handful of schools, 136 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.000 you know, two to three schools that have those. You know, 137 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.360 those dominating pictures aren't around anymore. And partly, I think partly is that 138 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.039 because the hitters have gotten so much better. So, you know, to 139 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:39.039 be a dominating picture, you have to be you know, we think about 140 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:45.120 the the the uh um you know cat Osterman and and the Arizona pictures, 141 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.159 you know, Michelle, you know so Gringer and all those, all those 142 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:52.519 that that were incredible pictures. Well, the hitters maybe weren't as good. 143 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.240 It was a different ball as they are now. Right So now you've got 144 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:00.240 you've got better hitters around, you know, I mean, I mean Arizona 145 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:01.919 you can still hit the crap out of the ball, but they you know, 146 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.480 they can't pitch to save their lives right now. So um, you 147 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.600 know, to be a Monica Abbott was the other one I was trying to 148 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.639 think of, you know, to be Monica Abbott today would probably get hit 149 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.799 a whole bunch more than she used to then she did back then. We'll 150 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:24.039 just look at the evans of those Yeah, those you know, those those 151 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.360 pictures aren't gonna aren't gonna getting the ball by as many players as they could 152 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.559 back then, you know what you say. And not to downplay how good 153 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:33.679 they were they were. I mean they were, they were incredibly dominating, 154 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:39.360 but there's more better players in college softball all over the count Sure, sure, 155 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:46.039 you know what. I blame his fault. Things totally created a monster. 156 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.679 He did, he did. It was all on It's all on him. 157 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:50.039 I hope he knows that he does. I hope he has a hard 158 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.919 time putting his head on his on his pillow at night because of that, 159 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:56.360 when he's thinking of when he's thinking of Kaitlin Lowe out there, struckle. 160 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:03.519 You know, I'm sorry, man, how do you mean to do this 161 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.799 to everybody? Yeah? You know, yeah, it's all his, all 162 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.960 his fault. We'll we'll blame him for all of that, every single bit 163 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.000 of it. He created a monster and you can't even feed the monster anymore. 164 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.080 And and league kind of ran from the monster. No, he got 165 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.840 you know that the meme with Homer Simpson, he goes back into them, 166 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:22.919 back into the bushes. It's like I did this. I'm just gonna step 167 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.960 away. I'm just gonna step away. And that's uh yeah, and where 168 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.039 we make fun of mine. He's a good sport about it. I'm sure. 169 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:33.200 No, but when you're the kind of captain of the ship. Yeah, 170 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.519 he was the guy. He was so Okay, okay, anybody else 171 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.360 want to call later? We have a full show. We have Adam Bizzars 172 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.320 at the three fifteen seventeen. That's gonna be a fun, fun, fun 173 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.519 conversation. And then in the next hour we don't have a guest, but 174 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.159 but we got a whole, a whole bunch of dead fish clips from his 175 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.440 uh post game press conference as the spring game had some interesting things to say. 176 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.919 He seemed incredibly excited. He did, I got he's almost giddy. 177 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:01.840 Did you read my college? Yeah? And what did you think? I 178 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:05.200 already know what you think. But first of all, I mean, I'm 179 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.639 shocked that you said anything nice and that exactly what happened to you did you 180 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:15.919 because because it's obvious they're going to be better than they've been, right, 181 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.279 I haven't listened to you enough and I agree with you, but it's just 182 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:24.879 everyone else else too. But if they look talented, what did what did 183 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:30.960 you think? Or did it? I lost my breath when Justin Flow walked 184 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.120 in the room. Oh oh oh yes, the dude, the dude I 185 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.879 used to look like that before I got married. I'm just stop it. 186 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.759 No, dude, the dude's abs. He like had like twenty twenty abs. 187 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.240 Right, he looks at disimpressive. You you want to talk about a 188 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:50.919 washboard, you know, crashboard, And I'm like, who who is that? 189 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:54.200 Right? You know, I'm like who who? Because I see him, 190 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.600 I'm like, how does somebody get like that? Right? So then 191 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.600 he talks and have you seen him? Time the conversation and you heard stuff? 192 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.480 He talks like Jamie Fox. He kind of talks, kind of looks 193 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.960 you, kind of like you know, like you know how you doing? 194 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.360 You know that kind of seduces you with the mic and kind of yeah, 195 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:15.879 that's a perfect way to put it. Yeah, And I'm thinking, this 196 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:18.000 is smooth, man, this is smooth. And then he looks like that. 197 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:24.639 Holy crap. I'm like, if that guy's running at me, okay, 198 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.200 I'm throwing myself on the ground and getting into a fetal position. I 199 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.480 mean, I couldn't believe that that that that was who that was? Right? 200 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.799 I mean, first of all, he looks like he's probably really fast 201 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:43.759 because he's so sleek, so sleek, but he's got like shot puts on 202 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:46.919 his shoulders, right, shot put a ball that looks like a shot put 203 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:52.159 on his shoulder. Then he said the abs the pecks. I'm like, 204 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.480 you know, who, how does the twenty year old kid get like that 205 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.559 or twenty one year old kid get like that? Right? Right? And 206 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:03.080 then he gets up with the bike. How are you doing? Yo key? 207 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.159 Yeah he was. He was like that midnight to six am DJ you 208 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.639 know, on on the on the on the uh you know, on the 209 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:18.600 slow Jams radio station. Were never listened to Love Life the very impressive, 210 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.120 very impressive. So I think that I didn't see, you know, I 211 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.080 didn't pay touching enough to hold spring. But that's why I asked him, 212 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.360 who are your big takeaways from the whole thing? He gave a great answer, 213 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:30.120 fantastic answer, because I think that one of the one of the keys 214 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.759 and you'll have it. I guess about about Dolora, right, yeah, 215 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:37.320 where where that's a start. That's if your main guy, If your main 216 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.440 guy, the guy that you're counting on the most, yeah, shows up 217 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.559 and is ready to go. Do you have some hope? Right? You 218 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:48.320 know what I'm saying. Um, So that's there's that and we'll talk more 219 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.200 about all that. But he he jed seemed almost giddy. He seemed very 220 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.720 excited about what he what he's got in front of him. You know, 221 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:00.840 it just looked like that. And you know it's funny because it's like, 222 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.960 you know, I go because you know, I wasn't able to go to 223 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:07.399 practice and things, so I go with these long, large gaps between times 224 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:13.240 that I see, right, and this is gonna sound weird. He looks 225 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.600 more and more like a college football coach all the time, you know, 226 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.440 because he looked like, well, yeah, or he looked like a door 227 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.000 to door salesman when he got here, right, I mean, he just 228 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.120 looked like a guy's trying to sell you a car or something. And now 229 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.480 you know he walks in, he's got an air of confidence about him, 230 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.840 and he looks he looks. He looks like he's in in his in his 231 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.759 right place. Yeah, it does look like a football to win some games. 232 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.039 Now, I think you will. We'll see. Yeah, I'm not 233 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.600 there yet, but no, you're closer though. I'll have a lot closer 234 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.320 than I thought you were. Yes, it's all gonna depend on the defense. 235 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.960 Right, Okay, let's take our break. We're gonna come back with 236 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:58.039 Adam Lazarus from Arizona assist one of the n I l H whatever called co 237 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:03.320 ops or Zona based whatever coop so anil group. So we'll be back. 238 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:20.679 We'll talk about some inn il sta. 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I'm great, 296 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:52.279 Thanks for having me on. Guys great, We're excited to talk to you 297 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.200 about a olt. We were kind of just two dudes on the sidewalk here. 298 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.880 I want to know what the heck is going on with the l uh. 299 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.599 First of all, tell us what it all means, because you're kind 300 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.000 of new to helping them out, aren't you? Or have you been here 301 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.640 for a while? No, I actually uh own a marketing agency. That's 302 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.359 my uh, my passion what we're good at, and we through mutual friends 303 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:19.839 of the of the program. Um met Tommy Lloyd's a team and the program 304 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:26.720 and are working together to create the the nil arm for U for the Arizona 305 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:29.680 men's basketball team. So it's new to everybody. It's only been around for 306 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.960 a little while, so we're learning as we go. But we established Arizona 307 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:37.240 Assists to help support the Arizona men's basketball team. Specifical. Okay, So 308 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:42.519 so this is specific to basketball, um, but you know, I mean 309 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:47.279 the whole program needs needs this. So you've got the you know, the 310 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:51.359 other the other group friends of Wilbur and Wilma that I assume helps you know, 311 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:55.160 all the programs. But you know why basketball why Why was it felt 312 00:20:55.160 --> 00:21:02.759 the basketball needed a program like this on its own or yeah, great question, 313 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.880 um. And while we work alongside any of these and ilanities for the 314 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:11.319 betterment of the entire program, Arizona men's basketball being sort of the flagship, 315 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.680 uh you know program at the school, it's the main uh you know, 316 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:18.599 it's what we're known for, I mean, jetfish and the football team is 317 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:22.680 doing a phenomenal job as well, and every program has their needs, but 318 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.519 we were contacted specifically buy basketball, um, just to help them and allow 319 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:32.839 as the college collegiate sports change. It allows these student athletes to help profit 320 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:37.920 on their personas, on their talent and personal brands in order to to monetize 321 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.240 to monetize that. So that's what we're here for, just specifics to basketball. 322 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.880 So you've been on board how long with them? We launched in the 323 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:51.319 middle of the tournament last season, so we are just one year old. 324 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.400 Of all the tricks and trades and things you've learned, would have been maybe 325 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:59.119 two or three of them because it's you know, you still in the first 326 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:00.839 year. So I'm sure you have to kind of navigate a few things. 327 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:08.559 Yeah. Absolutely, we have to be very sensitive to the international players. 328 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:12.960 That's something we're very focused on. International players and our basketball team has a 329 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.319 large number of them are held to a different standard and have different things that 330 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:22.400 the federal government is placed on them in terms of working. So we have 331 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.640 to navigate that very smartly. And also we want to be very sensitive to 332 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:30.920 the student athletes and to the coaching staff in their time. You know, 333 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.160 they're there to learn, they're there to win, and we didn't want to 334 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.680 ever be a distraction. So just navigating everybody's uh, you know, everybody's 335 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.960 day to day and the calendar and just working in lock step alongside the program 336 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:48.440 has been the biggest learning curve so far. So yeah, I mean really, 337 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.079 you guys really had to dig in and find out how some of the 338 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.319 stuff works and how did you manage through some of the stuff, because it 339 00:22:55.400 --> 00:23:00.640 just seems like there's more questions than answers about NIL over all. You know, 340 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.240 it's it's you know, they keep hounding at the wild Wild West, 341 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.599 and there's just so much going on and so many different things. There are 342 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.200 some rules, but then the rules are getting fudged all the time, is 343 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:14.000 what you hear? How did you go about first of all learning what you 344 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:18.400 can and can't do? And then how how are you, as Steve says, 345 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.599 navigating through that watching what some other schools are doing and not knowing is 346 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:25.799 that good? Is that bad? Is that right? Is that wrong? 347 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.559 You see where I'm trying to come from on that. Absolutely so NIL, 348 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.680 you know, obviously for those that don't know, stands for name, image, 349 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.480 and likeness. And then we were learning as we went. We talked 350 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.960 to dozens of lawyers, to player representatives. We're not play a player representative. 351 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:45.880 We spoke with the athletics department and everybody close to the program to make 352 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:52.720 sure that we are everything we're doing is in compliance the There's a lot to 353 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:57.839 learn and dozens and dozens of conversations to have, but essentially, we wanted 354 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:03.799 to make sure that our bottle that we built can be adaptive and nimble enough 355 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.640 as the world of NIL changes. So we built a platform. It's a 356 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:14.880 brand called Arizona Sifts that allows the average fan or significant boosters, any level 357 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:21.279 of involvement to participate through membership levels, merchandise sales, memorabilia sales, events, 358 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.839 experiences, and other ways to have access to the team, and at 359 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:29.000 any level you're comfortble. So if you want to give ten dollars or ten 360 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.440 thousand dollars, knowing that the overwhelming majority of those dollars go to the student 361 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.960 athletes once we pay our bills, we that's what we had to learn was 362 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.119 just talking to every possible person, learn as much as you can, and 363 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:47.319 build a very nimble technology program because this NIL world will change one hundred more 364 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:51.559 times. So let me you use the word sensitive to the international players, 365 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.440 you might have to kind of define that word and let me say using curves. 366 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.160 Okay, so the rumors are you know, he's decided to go to 367 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:00.759 West Virginia, that's not the rumor where he went, and they're going to 368 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.160 give him a lot of money. I won't see a figure, but a 369 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.319 lot of money. Maybe because Arizona didn't have it. Maybe he just wanted 370 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:11.519 to start. Like he said on you West Virginia. He liked the figure. 371 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.599 What do you mean by sensitive and is trying to find the money to 372 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:21.319 give them because a year ago we didn't think they could get anything. Yeah, 373 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:23.960 I mean that's exactly right. You know this all change July one, 374 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:29.880 twenty twenty one, when college players at any level could earn compensation, endorsements, 375 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:33.599 sponsorships for using their name, image, and likeness. The only difference 376 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.519 between the international players and this is not an n AL rule or a collegiate 377 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:44.079 rule, it's a federal law that student it is they cannot do work without 378 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.759 jeopardizing their student visa. So what is beautiful about what we've built is they 379 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:56.039 could still make revenue off of off of T shirts and other ways that we 380 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.799 can be that they can earn pass him income, but they can't do work 381 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.160 for that money. So that is where we are very sensitive to building a 382 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:11.920 platform that allows the international players and the American players to boast benefit from partnering 383 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.799 with local businesses being part of our program. Uh, selling shirts, hats, 384 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:19.160 things that they want, maybe building their own brand. That's how we 385 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.200 That's how we did it. So I have no idea what Steve Kerr or 386 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.079 excuse me, what Kurt Cresa got, what would promised to him? That 387 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.720 is not what we're you know, But I just know that there are some 388 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.599 rules to how how they're allowed to work for that money. Okay, So 389 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.160 here's this again, We're sitting here, a couple of guys with Steve said 390 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.759 on the sidewalk, we're just kind of you know, we read, we 391 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.240 hear, we hear rumors, all kinds of stuff. So when when somebody 392 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:49.039 says, Kurt Cresa went to West Virginia because he's going to get X, 393 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:53.400 I mean, isn't there supposed to be something that he's got to do to 394 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:57.319 get X other than be a basketball player at West Virginia? Right, So, 395 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.599 if you're if you're gonna, if you're going to provide an athlete at 396 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:06.559 Arizona with some you know, with some compensation of some sort, there's something 397 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:08.119 that they got to do. They got to put their name on a T 398 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:12.839 shirt, they got to go to an appearance at a card shop. I 399 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.880 mean, isn't it the rule that you can't just hand the money for coming 400 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.799 to your school? Yeah? I mean, I don't know again, what 401 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.559 you know the other schools are doing. There's dozens and dozens and dozens of 402 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:30.519 various NIL models out there, collective models and others. We are not a 403 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.039 collective at all. We are a brand and we built that brand to do 404 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:40.519 that exact thing where per CRESO or any player international or otherwise signs of agreement 405 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:45.039 with us. We have the ability to use cursed name, image likeness in 406 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.599 our advertising at our events as part of our merch and knowing that every time 407 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.960 we do one of those things, those players can earn significant revenue streams from 408 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:57.920 them. But yet, in essence, the players aren't supposed to do something 409 00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:03.759 or lend their name, image and likeness to UH to an entity in order 410 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.920 to earn those dollars. At the same time, Adam, I would assume 411 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.000 that you probably have to know your competition, right usil A, what they're 412 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:15.640 doing, what what Asus doing, what New Mexico is doing, Because you're 413 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.000 in competition with other schools. So I'm sure you have one eye on your 414 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.000 on your prize and then kind of thinking, Oh, I wonder what they're 415 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.759 gonna do. What can it solve a chess game? Absolutely, and we 416 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:32.200 we Before we built what we did, we did a lot of research on 417 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.839 what other programs were doing. Some were just uh, you know, coming 418 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.440 up with a way to donate into you know, every all these dollars go 419 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.759 into a bucket, so to speak, and the program could use it as 420 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:47.559 they see fit. Um, there's constantly evolving models and changes and lots of 421 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.799 quote nil entities out there. Um. Once we did that our model, 422 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.000 we built it in order for it to be nimble and for allow it to 423 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.160 be a membership based platform, so fans, because Arizona has such a strong 424 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:06.079 fan base just outside of Tucson too internationally even we built it in a way 425 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:11.480 that fans and boosters and alumni and anyone interested could participate at any level. 426 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.359 So we definitely keep our eye on what everyone else is doing, but we're 427 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.799 pretty focused on just making sure it's a program that benefits Arizona basketball more than 428 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.400 anything. Okay said something a second ago, you said, you're not a 429 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.480 collective. Oh, Okay, what's the difference between what you do and what 430 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.680 does a collective do? My understanding of what a collective does would be a 431 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.079 it's a bunch of people who put a bunch of money into a into a 432 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:41.079 pot and they can use it as they see fit to incentivize players, you 433 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.640 know, to pay players. That's sort of the traditional collective and we are 434 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.599 not that. We are a brand. We are not a five O one 435 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.000 C three, We are not built that way. But we did was build 436 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:56.599 a brand that allowed these players to participate in events that we do. We 437 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:03.960 try to connect them to businesses, connect them to maybe Passion project, and 438 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:10.119 certainly have them ability to sell their T shirts or their concepts or their brand. 439 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.240 So a collective in the true way would just be money, if you 440 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.480 will, sort of in the you know, waiting there for the team to 441 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.039 use as a t fit. And we are not doing that. So it's 442 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:22.759 like Jay and I'm sorry, also like Jane, I given twenty five bucks 443 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.599 each and given it to you and then you guys just decide where it shouldn't 444 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.480 go spend it and you're almost like an advertising agency, aren't change in a 445 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:34.359 way that is sort of we are I mean, our parent business beyond Arizona 446 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:40.200 Sifts is Good Juju Marketing agency, which we definitely are an ad marketing agency. 447 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:44.720 We design this as a membership platform, so we build technology behind it 448 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.160 that would allow memberships, memorabilia, sales, events, experiences. We do 449 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.440 a golf tournament, We're going to try to plan a big pickleball event with 450 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.920 Tommy. There's lots of exciting opportunities in the town that allow the players to 451 00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:02.079 participate, fans to engage, and then to monetize those efforts, and the 452 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.880 players. The more they participate, the more they can see in return. 453 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.960 Versus a collective, which is you know, there might not be a minimum 454 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.200 requirement. I don't really speak too much to the collectives because we aren't one, 455 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.960 and I don't really know what they're doing, but every every college is 456 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.440 doing it a little differently. Yeah. Is the friends of Wilbur and Wilma 457 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:25.440 the same as you? Or are they a collective? UM? I don't 458 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.240 know exactly their model. I don't think they're entirely a collective. They're similar 459 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:34.240 in us in some ways and they're doing a phenomenal job of helping in similar 460 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.880 ways that we are. But they're handling, football, and some of the 461 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.960 other sports at Arizona. Well, we are focused solely on Arizona's basketball at 462 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:47.720 the moment. Okay, So let me just u in its simplest form, 463 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:51.720 the way this would work is, let's say I'm Joe Schmo. I'm a 464 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.920 I'm having a golf tournament. It's a fundraising tournament, but I feel like 465 00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:00.519 I can get more more people to get involved in this golf tournament. If 466 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.359 I have three basketball players that are going to be there signing stuff or whatever, 467 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.680 they come to you. You set up a thing where or I would 468 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.319 come to you and say, okay, I want to have pretty basketball players 469 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.559 at my event. What does it cost me? And what will they do? 470 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.519 And then you figure out some sort of a package deal or whatever for 471 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:21.759 them to come and be at the event. Is that how that works? 472 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.480 Basically? That'd be one way. Well, we are now players representative. 473 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.960 We're not lawyer, if we're not agents, we don't speak for the players. 474 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.200 We are a connection, though we are handshake as best we can be 475 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:37.599 between corporate entities and town or associations organizations that maybe want to have players appear 476 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.000 or be a part of events and experiences that Arizona Assists is doing. So, 477 00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.160 yes, they could contact us and say I have this is what I'm 478 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.640 hoping to get, this is my budget, and then we'll certainly put it 479 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:51.400 in front of the player. But if the player doesn't want to do that, 480 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.319 if they don't want to show up, we can't force that. We 481 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.880 are just a handshake in that way. But that is one of the things 482 00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.279 that we do Arizona Assists if we're doing an event though, for examp our 483 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.359 golf tournament. We had a golf tournament last year a La Paloma, had 484 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:06.920 one hundred players from around the town. All the revenue we raised at that 485 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.200 at that event went to help the directly support the student athletes. All the 486 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:15.000 team. The entire team was there at different holes, you know, hanging 487 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.240 out. Um. So we do things like that, Um for sure. 488 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.000 But then would they get paid for doing that, I guess is my question. 489 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:29.119 Then do they get paid for the appearance? Yeah, the the the 490 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.640 American player can definitely get paid for the appearance. Yeah. Oh okay, 491 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.279 So let me ask you, Adam, did you are you you a grad? 492 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.559 I am not? Okay, I think you're twenty years though. Okay, 493 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:40.920 so I kind of wanted to put things in perspective. Okay, I'm 494 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.240 gonna get on my old man soapbox here. Okay, So the one thing, 495 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:46.799 and I do this with Jay all the time and he agrees with me. 496 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.960 So the best way to know these players because frankly, we don't really 497 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.240 know these players football, basketball and otherwise because we see them. I'm teching 498 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:59.880 the media and then we were both sports writers by trade, that you get 499 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.720 to sit down with these guys. When Luke was here, we talked to 500 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:05.960 them all the time, We became friends. We rewrote stories, blowing stories, 501 00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.719 and the people, the community and the Luves got to know these guys. 502 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.840 Right. So over the last fifteen years or so that hasn't been the 503 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.119 case. But the best way to know the players is through the media. 504 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.840 And I could be wrong, but this is my profession, so I think 505 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.079 I'm right. And now that's gone away. So the best way to know 506 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:27.320 these players is to have more access to these players because now they're a business. 507 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:31.280 They're their own business. Do you think that could change? Because it's 508 00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.360 if I knew occurred more, I think the city would have loved him more. 509 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.119 If that makes any sense. All of that makes sense, and I 510 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.920 do agree with you. The traditional ways that have always been the way to 511 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:45.679 intro to the players and get to know them has been the media, and 512 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.880 that should stay the same and keep growing. But the media is now they 513 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.639 have their own college social media, you know, and their own influencer network. 514 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.199 They have thousands and thousands of followers directly, so they're their own biggest 515 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.360 megaphone. And there's lots of other ways to get a hold of these guys 516 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:06.639 now, and so this is just another way where you can definitely interact and 517 00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.880 get to know the student athletes at our events or at at you know, 518 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:15.880 at events and experiences we do, or having them come. But certainly it's 519 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.599 a wait, it's another way to help these players build their own brands, 520 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.400 keep their tie to Tuson. One of the big things we're trying to do 521 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.239 is connect them with local businesses, entities, organizations that matter to them and 522 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.920 and really expand their footprint here so once they graduate or go to the league 523 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.960 or whatever it is, they come back to Tuson for more than just you 524 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.039 know, an autographs or you know, things like that. So I agree 525 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.840 with you that it is the media, but they are their own media engines 526 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.400 now. And we do try to help them navigate that invest we can. 527 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:47.760 Yeah, no, no question. I also would like to say that most 528 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.119 of the people our age are the ones with the money, because you know, 529 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:53.840 if if Kurr and I just use an example, right, these young 530 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.320 kids have a lot of followers, of course, but they're all the same 531 00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.440 age. They have yet to make the money. So people who have the 532 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.599 businesses are older, They're not on social they're not on Twitter, they're not 533 00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:07.320 a tick doctor. They're making they're making money. Does that make sense? 534 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.400 Absolutely? And that's why what what you tried to do is we offer various 535 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:17.320 membership and participation levels and ways of being involved with arizonassists that allow you know, 536 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.639 a young fan or a college student who's on a budget to still buy 537 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:25.320 T shirts and wear cool gear and and you know, meets the players at 538 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.239 general bands or at a golf tournament or something cool that they might be a 539 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.760 part of. And then also have levels that are one hundred dollars, a 540 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.920 thousand dollars, even ten thousand dollars, or a corporate sponsorship that allows some 541 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.480 of the fans that do have those resources to meet them in smaller settings. 542 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:45.320 We get an event, a culinary dropout up in Phoenix before the AFU game, 543 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.159 only a hundred stamps paying a little more heavyc got to spend the evenings 544 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.039 playing uh, you know, cornhole with the cats and ping pong and getting 545 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.880 to know them in a different way. So we do have various levels of 546 00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:02.239 participation that allow the student athletes and the fans to interact in different ways that 547 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.480 might be more suited to their budget or for their you know, their their 548 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:13.400 participation level. One last thing I know you have something going on tomorrow tomorrow 549 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:17.039 is just the University of Arizona is putting on an NIL panel because lots of 550 00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:22.119 people have you know, a thought on NIL or don't really know where to 551 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.679 start. What is NIL? How does this work? What are my options? 552 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.599 And so they are doing a panel, an independent panel that we're going 553 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.840 to sit on. Arizona SIS will be on that panel alongside some of the 554 00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:36.719 other NIL related entity. Is just to learn more if you're a local business 555 00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.039 or you want to learn more about the nil uh. It starts at six 556 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:42.719 pm tomorrow down at the University of Arizona. It's a great way to learn 557 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.000 a little bit more. You can also go to Arizona sif dot com and 558 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:50.079 learn about NIL how we're trying to to make our market in that world. 559 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.599 And uh and if you do want to be a part of that, that's 560 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.039 tomorrow and then we're gonna have some fun events, play your engagement events to 561 00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:59.920 start once the season kind of gets ramp back up again. Okay, you 562 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.639 of it is a big place. Where at the University of Arizona is this 563 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:07.360 event? Um, I don't know off hand. I apologize I should know 564 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.159 that, but I don't know the room. But if you google, if 565 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:15.960 you can google the Arizona or NIL event at the University of Arizona, it's 566 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:21.320 alongside the Arizona Edge program and so um you can learn all about Okay, 567 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:22.639 cool, okay, adam, thanks in the whole new world, right, 568 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.840 thank you. It is a whole new world, but it is important. 569 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.719 It's the way. Um. The last closing work here, if you will, 570 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:35.920 is the game has definitely changed, and I think what we're trying to 571 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:37.519 do is whether you agree with it or not, learning more about it. 572 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:42.000 But it's a way to help ensure the players get rewarded and the play the 573 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.679 program remains competitive in this new world. That's really what we're here about. 574 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.679 Yeah, perfect. 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They have their eye on the ball. 631 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:07.519 Two sons Sports station Fox Sports fourteen fifty, Hey, welcome back to 632 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.320 iron the Ball at your own Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Young Steve Vera. 633 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.679 You're Jay Gonzalez. If you want to give us a call, we have 634 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.760 about nine minutes. Please do are you are you an n L guy? 635 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.400 Do they give you you know, are you giving money to the human? 636 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.360 Not yet, but that's that's you know, that's the thing. You go 637 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.960 on to the Arizona Assists website, you go on to do the will you 638 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:29.440 know friends of Wilbur and Wilma. Yeah, it's like being it's like joining 639 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.280 your wildcat club. You become a member. You give money on a monthly 640 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.800 basis. You can do ten dollars a month, one hundred dollars a month, 641 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.800 you know, ten thousand dollars a year or whatever. This money goes 642 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:43.360 into their fund and they use it for well, doc, you're an alum 643 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.880 guy, right, and I don't. I can't do this because we have 644 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:49.119 to do it for our advertising for ourselves. Right. But now you have 645 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.800 to chase money for the school, for the athletic department, right, for 646 00:43:52.920 --> 00:44:00.480 Wilbur or Wilma for this assist strictly basketbasket right? How many others are where 647 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.039 you have Tucson, right, and you have a lums all over the world, 648 00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.199 like you said, still there's there's a short list of people who have 649 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:15.639 money. Like just you just wonder how how this is thinning out the available 650 00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.719 money for the various entities that are doing this stuff, and not just one 651 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:23.360 time. It's like constant Yeah, it's constant um. Yeah, you know. 652 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.119 And that's why peple, That's why you get you know those uh you 653 00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:31.119 know, scary you. This is all gonna you know, it's all gonna 654 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:36.480 come crumbling down and the school you know, college athletics is gonna die and 655 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.360 stuff. No, it's not. People are gonna have money and they're gonna 656 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:40.719 give the money. It's just a matter of Okay, where am I giving 657 00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:44.199 them money? Um? You know, do I give the money to the 658 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.480 athletic departments so they can do so they can do whatever they want with it. 659 00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.480 Do I give my money to basketball? Because I'm just a basketball fan 660 00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.039 And there's all. That's all I give a crap about. I go to 661 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.519 friends of Wilbur and Wilma because I want my nim. I want to give 662 00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:59.400 an ail money and I wanted to go to football. You know, people 663 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.760 are just gonna where their money is going to go. Um. And and 664 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:07.360 the thing is, Steve, I do I do believe that, you know, 665 00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:10.280 I'm not. I'm not gonna say the money is unlimited it's because it's 666 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:15.719 not. But I am going to say that people have all have always been 667 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:22.159 willing to give their money to sports because because they're fans, and you know, 668 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.039 I am. I imagine there's people out there giving money to the Wildcat 669 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.599 Club and giving money to Arizona Assist and giving money to friends of Wilbur and 670 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:37.320 Wilma and having events to pay and paying players to do stuff because they love 671 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.800 the stuff. Now, are there as many people who love Arizona football as 672 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.159 love USC football? Maybe maybe not, you know, because there's so many 673 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.039 other things going on in LA where people are spending their money. Now, 674 00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.760 are there people more people giving money at Alabama than an Arizona? Of course 675 00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.679 they are. Because Alabama's winning a national championship. Everybody wants to be a 676 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.199 part of that, and there lives. There's my thought of the rich kidding 677 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.679 rich, right, because you can pay a big Jimbo guy on the longing 678 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:12.400 front line a lot more. The rich were already rich beyond Arizona's uh reach 679 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.320 anyway, So that's not changing. How rich can you be? Right, 680 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:22.159 that's not gonna change. It's like, okay, so you're you're uh your 681 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.719 phil nine, You've got you know, one hundred billion dollars, right, 682 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.280 and I'm a millionaire. I'm never catching up with you, right, and 683 00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.719 and so why try? Well, the Arizona's just gotta be who they are. 684 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.280 That's the problem. That's it, right there. They gotta be who 685 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:38.800 they are to just be better at other things, right. You know, 686 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:43.480 I always say it's always bring this with the with the with the loot thing, 687 00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.719 maybe the dictomy thing. You get your million dollar guy and coaching to 688 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.400 play like two million dollars right, right, yeah, I mean you know, 689 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:57.239 with with or without ni l Arizona is not catching up with Alabama, 690 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:02.119 just not not happening. So so what you do is you just you play, 691 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:06.559 as they say, you stay in your lane, right, You try 692 00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.519 and recruit guys that can play at Arizona and who are willing to come to 693 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:14.559 Arizona and play here. And then you just try, as you always have. 694 00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.440 You just try, and you know, hit the jackpot every few years. 695 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.760 That's what that's all you can do. And I don't see how that 696 00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:25.920 really changes with Niam. I really don't. Well, I'm sure I don't 697 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.559 even know if I should say this, because I'm not I can stop positive, 698 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.679 but that they're that's why you asked him. You have to probably have 699 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.440 an eye on other schools well, work in their magic because other schools are 700 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:42.000 paying X amount of money for women's basketball, don't even go there. Right, 701 00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.119 So every sport has its issues, right, But look, did Kirk 702 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:51.639 Creasalte leave Arizona because of nil? Maybe? All right? Okay, so 703 00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:53.800 what's the deal? Okay, Arizona goes to the next guy, And that's 704 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.440 what you have to do. And you got you got a guy like kyl 705 00:47:57.480 --> 00:47:59.559 and Boswell. You gotta try and figure out a way to keep him here. 706 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:01.920 But if Colin Boswell leaves after next year because he has such a great 707 00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:06.079 year and he goes to the NBA, how is that different from him leaving 708 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:08.519 to go to another school because somebody offered him some nil. It's not, 709 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.480 it's not, It's really not. It's like the girl from LSU Reece. 710 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.440 Yeah, right, what does she say, I'm staying in school because I 711 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:22.119 can make more money here and and in some instances that will happen here, 712 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:27.599 particularly in sports like that where a professional doesn't make you know, they don't 713 00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.079 make that much money in the w NBA. Right now, I think a 714 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.880 top salary there, it's like two hundred and fifty grand. It's not it's 715 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:38.840 not inconceivable to think that that that uh, that the LSU basketball player, 716 00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:43.000 I think it's a list of reas or whatever last first name is, her 717 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.880 last name is, is making more than that at LSU. And if she 718 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.639 is, then more power to LSU to be able to do that. It's 719 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.840 funny because you know, me, me dummy watches or reads the Facebook and 720 00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.960 they're talking about the kid from creating all these other players blah blah blah, 721 00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.159 and they're saying, well, our ni l has to step up party from 722 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.320 a guy who doesn't contribute to the NFL. Right, so if you're gonna 723 00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.159 be talking to talk, you might want to put some money. Yeah, 724 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.840 and like you said, two bucks, ten bucks, twenty bucks whatever. 725 00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:15.840 Yeah. I guess enough people do that, especially especially to the Facebook people. 726 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.719 Yeah, go it and throw some bucks, right, yeah, don't 727 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:22.159 yea, yeah, don't you know. Don't don't be talking crap unless you're 728 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:27.000 doing something to help to help. There's plenty of that. I'll see enough 729 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.079 comments that if they put twenty five bucks each, that be happy. I 730 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:35.440 mean, the screw right if everybody who commented about one of your columns or 731 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.480 something you know, or one of our shows. Uh, you know, 732 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.440 throw twenty five bucks in the pot. It builds up, Sure, it 733 00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.480 absolutely does. You know. So I mean it's the same. It's the 734 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.320 same as you know, if you don't vote, don't pitch. I was 735 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.719 just exactly say, it's the exact same thing, the exact same thing. 736 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:58.199 So that ain't get tough. They're down there in the basement of their mom's 737 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:02.719 house, your grandmother's in their boxer shorts, bagg of Cheetos. This sounds 738 00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:08.559 familiar somewhere, you know, a diet coke whatever. Yeah, you gotta 739 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:15.079 keep the diet coke there foote Okay, hands are dirty with Cheeto, with 740 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:19.119 Cheeto does exactly with Cheeto wanta on their fingers. Yeah, So we have 741 00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.320 about a minute or sold up. We have Devin with some breaking news. 742 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.480 A lot of stuff going on right Devin, NBA. A lot of crazy 743 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:30.599 stuff in the NBA happen over the week. It was fantastic. It's like 744 00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:34.480 it's like the college basketball season, yeah, all over again. A lot 745 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:38.440 stuff and then uh, and then we'll then we'll we'll cover Jetfish's uh post 746 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.039 spring game press conference, though I had a lot to say. Um, 747 00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.039 I didn't cut any of the clips from the players, but Jet had plenty 748 00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:49.920 of stuff to say. And you know, now they settle in and get 749 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.000 into their summer and you'll you'll hear what he has to say about what they 750 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.559 got to do from here to get ready for the fall. And of course 751 00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:57.760 if you want to talk to us, give us a call. Well, 752 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.920 Deva is doing the breaking news stuff, and then we'll have you at the 753 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.000 end of the end of the show. Yeah, we'll have another secment at 754 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.599 the end of the show, right, okay, all right, let's uh, 755 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.960 okay, well, let's get here to take our break once again. 756 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.400 Breaking news the top of the hour, a lot of most of the NBA 757 00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:14.360 stuff, probably Devin and then uh and then uh, you know, a 758 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:15.559 little bit of you of a stuff, and then we'll be back and we'll 759 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.119 uh and we'll cover the spring game, so we'll stick around for all of 760 00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:20.920 that. We'll be right back