WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:13.400 Welcome to Garden Wall record a nostalgic time corpsule. I'm no spoiler book Club 2 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:23.280 of the original Over the Garden Wall. Thank dam are your creepy curators. 3 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:49.079 I am shocking Shelby, I am chilling Charlie, and I'm hell led through 4 00:00:49.119 --> 00:01:00.600 the mist by the milk line. All that was lost is repealed, long 5 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:07.560 by gone, burdens mere echoes of a scream. But where have we come? 6 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:18.439 And where shall we? If dreams can't come true, then why not 7 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:29.359 pree Hello dumplings, Hello you little dumpling, Hello dumplings. We're a bunch 8 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:40.959 of jolly dumples recording a podcast. Tra a lot t here's a The smurf 9 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:49.439 is up on you, boy, to get out of here. Yeah, 10 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:55.640 he's only like three apples high, grey, could he be you better beware 11 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:05.000 the smurf is outside, boy. You're right this morn. So this is 12 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:13.199 the final episode of garden Will recall everyone I know. I'll this you most 13 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.360 of all, John Crops. Does that mean we're not gonna be friends anymore 14 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:19.639 after this? Or I have no idea. It depends how this episode goes. 15 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:24.639 So before we get into the final two episodes of Over the garden Wall. 16 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:30.439 It appears that we have some fan mail brought to us, perhaps by 17 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:37.319 talking carrier pigeon I suppose, of course, or carrying talker pigeons. Might 18 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:38.960 it might also have been a male man who might have been a werewolf. 19 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:46.800 Oh that's a that's a throwback. Yeah, yeah, that's a look back. 20 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:54.759 I know, right. I can recall the first electronic mail I believe 21 00:02:54.840 --> 00:03:01.280 that we've we've received. This is from m Pound. She hurt and says, 22 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:06.520 hey, gang, medium time listener, first time emailer. I love 23 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.240 that that Turner phrase. Medium time over the garden Wall is my favorite cartoon 24 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:14.759 bar none, and I was so excited to see the series pop up in 25 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:16.680 my feed. The show means so much to me on so many levels, 26 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:21.199 and I take every opportunity to gush about it. I'm always going to remember 27 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:24.360 watching the series with a few friends in high school and that jaw dropping twist 28 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:28.560 toward the end of the show's run. I wonder what that'll be m I 29 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:31.759 think it was the first time a cartoon genuinely blew me away. My favorite 30 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:36.719 fall pastime is to sit my friends down and watch them watch the show. 31 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:40.639 For the first time. I watched it with my that's kind of the whole 32 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:46.400 essence of this podcast. Watched the episode, I just watched their facial expressions 33 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:52.639 exactly. That's what we did with Alexa with Gravity Falls. Yes, absolutely, 34 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:54.280 I watched it with my partner on our first date, deep in the 35 00:03:54.280 --> 00:04:00.199 pandemic and seeing the reaction to the art the characters that everything was amazing and 36 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.080 yes, this is one of their favorites now too. We went as Worton 37 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:06.560 Beatrice for Halloween last year. Nice great episode about the pilot. I absolutely 38 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:11.439 love everything y'all do and can't wait to hear your discussion about the series from 39 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:15.360 M thank you, M, thank you. So this one comes from a 40 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:21.839 pd piranha plant or perhaps meaty parana implant. That's a good spooky name. 41 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:25.800 That's a very good, good one. Yeah. Hello, Charlie, Ella 42 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:30.319 and Shelby. Longtime listener, first time emailer. I never got to email 43 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.639 during Mystery Shack look Back due to not being part of the original Gravity Falls 44 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:41.439 fandom. I had no gripping or mundane tales of the time because I'm just 45 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:45.639 not one to be part of fandoms. However, thanks to over the Garden 46 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:49.480 Wall airing entirely in one week, I'd say the non fandom viewers recollection of 47 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:55.800 the time is equally as important as the fandom perspective. Throughout my first viewing 48 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:59.759 of episodes one and two, I wasn't quite sure what the extent of how 49 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.680 things could get for Whorton Greg. At the time, Cartoon Network was pushing 50 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:08.759 boundaries on what it could show, and I wasn't sure if this was expected 51 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:13.279 to be a teen show, much like regular show, which was regular for 52 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.800 the network. I might say so. I was on the edge for a 53 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:20.519 lot of the time, thinking what if the boys get injured or are they 54 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:27.600 throw in a jump scare? Well they might. It was quite a roller 55 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.279 coaster of emotions when I first saw them, the same feeling you get watching 56 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:36.079 ducklings cross a busy road. I don't know if that's what people who weren't 57 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:41.439 aware of the context of the time feel seeing the show. I hope they 58 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:45.879 do. I make it a tradition to introduce someone new to the show every 59 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:49.120 November. Now on to the main point of the email. I wish to 60 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:53.639 be a carrot when I die, But not just any carrot, no, 61 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:59.959 A classical purple one from before the Orange Nosaw Dutch Royal family had carrots made 62 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.120 orange for them. I'll be a sight to behold. Whoever digs me up? 63 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:11.199 Which vegetable would you be? Sincerely, meaty piranha implant. Hmmm, 64 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.399 well this is a very good question, implant. Thank you for your email. 65 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.720 Which vegetable would I be when I die? Yeah, it's a classic 66 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.879 question. You get it at every job interview, of course. Yeah, 67 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:26.319 it's almost a cliche at this point. But what vegetable do you see yourself 68 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:30.120 as in five years? I hope I live for longer than five years. 69 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:36.839 I want to I would, judging by my hair, I would probably be 70 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:42.959 broccoli. I would want to be broccolini. But I am small and round, 71 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:46.920 so I think I'm a spaghetti squash. Spaghetti squash kind of sounds like 72 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:54.360 your name, it does. That's a yump, Yeah, little Betty Betty 73 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:59.920 Squashler. Yeah. Oh man, Okay, I don't know why this came 74 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:02.879 to my mind, but I feel like I'm gonna be corn corn. I 75 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:06.519 love it. So I guess now that we all know, Now we all 76 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:12.439 know what vegetables are going to be when we enter that that that good night. 77 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:19.199 Yeah, it's time to actually go into the unknown. So is that 78 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:23.920 where is that where different rabel are headed in the final episode. Yes, 79 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.879 I guess so, yeah, ready to go into the unknown? No, 80 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:31.160 no, but let's do it anyway. That's the ninth episode of Over the 81 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.360 Garden Wall, premiered on November seventh, twenty fourteen, on the Cartoon Network. 82 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:41.360 It was a whole network, just the Cottoons. I know. It's 83 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:45.759 notably it's the only episode that is a script driven instead of board driven. 84 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:50.519 So it is written by Cole Sanchez, Bertjon Amelia Lavari, Tom Herpitch, 85 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:57.720 and Patrick McHale, and it is storyboarded by Cole Sanchez, Vinuen and Zach 86 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:05.279 Gorman. Cole Sanchez was also a director on Adventure Time, a bord artist 87 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:11.959 on Flatjack, and a supervising producer on Summer Camp Islands. This episode apparently, 88 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:15.480 yeah, all right, so let's just watch it then. Goodbye, 89 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.240 Thank you, old Lady Daniels, goodbye Gregory, and please don't call me 90 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.680 old lady. Yes, sir, young man. So that was really weird. 91 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.319 Did we watch the Right to show? The animation looked similar, Yeah, 92 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:33.240 but it wasn't really about anything like, you know, whimsical or old 93 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:39.159 timey or anything like that. I do think that poetry with clarinet is pretty 94 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:46.039 whimsical. That's true, that's true. The episode opens with electric guitar. 95 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.399 Yeah, wait a minute, what's going on here? Waited on a cassette 96 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.960 tape beautiful? That song is the Fight is Over, sung by series creator 97 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.080 Pat McHale. I know there's some you know, anachronistic stuff in over the 98 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.919 Garden Wall, but I mean this is like seventies or eighties. What's going 99 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:05.919 on here? Yeah, all of the lighting in the backgrounds is artificial and 100 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.279 electric. Yeah, it's a lot more blue, and there's a there's a 101 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:16.000 yeah, because it's very very candle lit in the unknown, so it's very 102 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:20.320 orange and here every single house has a blue glow coming out of it, 103 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:26.159 implying they are all watching TV right even on Halloween. And the music in 104 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:33.639 this one is based on sitcom stings instead of on the music of the Baltics 105 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.720 or whatever. Yeah, there's some really great little pratfall just like noises, 106 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:43.559 like when the egg falls over and just goes were And I wonder if the 107 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.919 episode being script driven is to make it feel more like modern cartoons. That 108 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.080 makes a lot of sense to me. But there are a lot of bird 109 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.279 driven modern cartoons as well. It depends on then, but it's definitely I 110 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:01.320 mean, there weren't script driven cartoons at the time. Oh yeah, yeah, 111 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.639 I see. Yeah, the movie, which is a modern invention. 112 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.320 Yeah yeah. This one does feel more like more like a sitcom or a 113 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:13.679 TV show than it does a cartoon, especially because it's about well it it 114 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.440 is apparently a prequel episode is a flashback because the end of the last episode 115 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.799 we had the reveal that Greg has apparently made a deal with the Beast, 116 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.799 was walking off with the beast, and then Work just passed out and was 117 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:31.399 caught by a man or fish and Beatrice. But after all that, we 118 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:37.159 didn't I didn't really see what happened. And now we're flashing back to work 119 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.480 having made a cassette recording of poetry and clarinet for Sarah, the character that 120 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:48.960 we heard about back in Lullaby and Frogland, like the girl that he has 121 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.159 a crush on, and you know, of course it's a very sit comy 122 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:56.159 sort of story. From there, where a lot of the other the other 123 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:00.440 kids at school like planted I and Sarah's jacket, and then he has to 124 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:03.159 get the tape back before he gets embarrassed and they hear it and they laugh 125 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:09.399 and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh. And who voices voice is Sarah. 126 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:15.919 Sarah is voiced by Emily Brundage, who was apparently well one. She 127 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:22.799 sings a song called Jinky in the Scooby Doop movie A just one singular one 128 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.799 and two. She voices the title character and did a bunch of songs for 129 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.200 a series called Pubertina, which none of us have heard of. I don't 130 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.639 know what Pubertina is other than it being a fantastic drag name. Okay, 131 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:46.080 I pulled it up. It is from the smash wiki. Okay. Shut 132 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:52.039 Up Cartoons was a smash YouTube channel that featured original animated content. Uh huh, 133 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:58.360 created as part of Google's unsuccessful YouTube original channel initiative. I love the 134 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:03.960 wiki wiki had to specify, Yeah, this thing crashed and burned. Pubertina 135 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.639 was the second cartoon to air on shut Up Cartoons. I I feel like 136 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.639 it failed because the that's a very mean, uh cartoon name. That's a 137 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:18.399 very like production company name. It says, Join Pubertina as she tackles the 138 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:24.360 giant pile of mishaps, embarrassment, and acne. That is puberty every Wednesday 139 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.200 right here on shut Up Cartoons, created by Emily Brundage. In fact, 140 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:35.080 Oh interesting, Wow, Okay, so it's brace face meant big mouth, 141 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:41.440 yeah meets shut up later. There we go, shut Up La. We 142 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:46.559 also finally finally meet the iconic, the stallion, the man, the myth, 143 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:50.080 the legend, Jason Thunderberger. Let's give a hand for him because he 144 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:58.679 is an absolute specimen of masculinity of the Chad walks in such a Chad mister 145 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:05.159 steelo girl. Yeah. Absolutely. He's apparently designed based on Patrick McHale's high 146 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:11.120 school senior portrait photo. Not on purpose, he was. He was drawn 147 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:16.679 with a suit just you know, on the storyboards, and as Pat was 148 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:18.960 coloring it in, he's like, oh, maybe I can make the suit 149 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.120 green like the one I wore in high school. Wait a second, that's 150 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:28.240 my haircut for my school. Oh and Vine Neuen is one of the board 151 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.080 artists on this episode was also one of the inspirations for worts personality. As 152 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.000 Pat says in the art book, I remember I being particularly notorious in college 153 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.600 for accidentally blurting out something insulting, then digging in deeper and deeper a hole 154 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.320 for himself as he tried to talk his way out of it. It was 155 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.480 strangely endearing. Actually, this is a fun one. It's very fun. 156 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.039 I like, we get the origins of a lot of things we fight. 157 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.279 I mean, the outfit primarily right at the beginning, Yeah, yeah, 158 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:03.399 he cuts the trim off a very erect Santa hat. I said it was 159 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:09.039 stored with corn starch and is now stiff as a board, right, And 160 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:13.120 I pointed out that Wort is a pubescent boy, so sometimes you know that 161 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.799 happens to your Santa hat and it's normal, Yeah, just part of growing 162 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:22.279 up. But and then the the cloak is from like an old Civil war 163 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.639 costume, civil war nurse outfit, and I love that the that the other 164 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.519 kids are like, so, are you just like some kind of gnome? 165 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.320 Like what is it? I don't know, And he doesn't know. But 166 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:37.759 then when he's when he dresses himself and he puts the fan on to swish 167 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.080 his cape, He's like, yes, yes. So Pat Mcheal points out 168 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:48.080 that that moment where his cape is swishing in the wind is called back to 169 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.360 at the end when Wort finally actually becomes the hero and walks off into the 170 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:58.200 snow to find Greg when we cut back to the unknown, so call forward 171 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:03.559 then yeah, well calls back and for yes, whoa whoa Yes, Sir 172 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:09.399 Jason Frenderberger sounds like he's in pain all the time. It's fantastic. Yeah, 173 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:15.519 Cole sam Jays does the funniest mouth breather voice. Oh he worns you're 174 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:22.679 at Oh what's going on? And like, no one but Wert sees him 175 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:30.399 as like anything remotely threatening or to be taken seriously, Like he he fails 176 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:35.480 to startle Sarah when they're walking into the graveyard and she just comforts him on 177 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.519 his fail to like, Oh, you tried your best, You did your 178 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.679 best. It's okay. Yeah. I love that. The whole interaction between 179 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:45.600 the two, Worre is like, no, he's gonna steal my girl, 180 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.679 and Sarah's just like it's okay, buddy, you're doing your best, Like 181 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:54.759 there is no romantic tension at all. Yeah, it does. It kind 182 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.399 of reminds me of like the Inconvenience thing, or like any Gravity Falls episode 183 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.240 with the teens where it's like or even like any uh like Steve Universe episodes 184 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:07.519 where Lars would try to interact with the cool teenagers in that show where like 185 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.639 you have a character who is so like in their own head and so like 186 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:18.960 debilitatingly anxious all the time about social acceptance, and then the second you see 187 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:21.759 like from outside of their own perspective, everyone's just like, oh yeah, 188 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:23.919 like it's whatever. We're They're like, they're just normal, Like they're just 189 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:30.159 normal people like this. There's a character who sees them as this like unattainable 190 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:34.799 like institution socially, and then they're just like, oh, yeah, that's 191 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:37.320 cool, you can hang out with us. Like they're they're excited to see 192 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:41.159 where at the party, and they when they see them at the graveyard, 193 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:45.240 they're like, yeah, come on, come hang out. Like they the 194 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:52.799 idea that they are, you know, this cartoonish like click is entirely in 195 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:57.440 words head and I think that's really funny and also really like touching and really 196 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.799 true. Okay, so we've just got in an image of Pubertina, and 197 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.640 we also found out what her nickname is. If you scroll, that's I 198 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:07.599 don't like that. I don't like that at all. I'm sorry. What 199 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:14.759 would you shortened puper Tina to obviously pubes? Yeah, the wiki says she's 200 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:18.720 nicknamed Pubes by most of the characters, and that's all. And I don't 201 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.359 like it. That feels like nobody on the show likes her. That's just 202 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.960 mean. I mean it's from shut Up cartoons, So I guess you're right, 203 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:32.559 we should shut up. My chickens are screaming as loud as they can 204 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:36.240 out suck. They don't like Pubert. They don't like Pubes as a nickname 205 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:38.920 either. That's not in the recording. Part of me hopes it is. 206 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:47.359 So I'm like, I'm like Pubertina, I'm like Pubes. Most people seem 207 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:52.480 to like word, even though they may lightly tease him sometimes. But where 208 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:59.160 interprets this as just being an utter pariah, it reminds me of a buller 209 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.400 hat guy. Yeah, ye hey, hey goop cool gool binder, Hey 210 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:07.000 you want to hang out after school? They all hated be Yeah, that's 211 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:14.799 pretty pretty much like you see, how just how truly truly like warped Wort's 212 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.440 view of the situation is because we've heard him, you know, saying all 213 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.200 this dramatic poetry stuff before, but out of context, and now it's put 214 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:29.240 in context where basically, like he accidentally fumbles, like talking to his crush 215 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:33.480 at a party and then he just launches into oh is the Dove never to 216 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.119 meet the Sea for Watch of the Odious Mountain? And it's like, dude, 217 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:44.240 not that serious, but same when I was in high school. Yeah, 218 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.920 exactly, that's true. That is very like how it feels when you're 219 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.880 that age. But we have like this outside perspective and through the lens of 220 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:59.640 a cartoon you can really see like how fundamentally absurd most anxiety is and thunder 221 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:06.000 birth, how under Berkeley observed absurd most anxiety is absorb absord Yeah, how 222 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:18.599 fonder Berkeley absword most anxieties one take. I also love all of the background 223 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.680 character costumes. It's yes, someone with just a pizza around their or face. 224 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:27.400 Yeah. Wonderful spreadsheet of all of the different costumes in the art in 225 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.319 the art book, Yeah, which is linked to the description page one FI 226 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.799 four. I love the guy who's dressed as this cartoon duck who has the 227 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.559 cartoon duck on his shirt for context to what the mask is supposed to pay. 228 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.240 Well, yeah, because Nitkross said, we were trying to design homemade 229 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:44.640 looking costumes. I remember as a kid, everyone would have those plastic costumes 230 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.440 that you'd buy at the supermarket a Darth Vader plastic mask and a smock that 231 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.519 said Darth Vader on it. I hated those things, so there, Yeah, 232 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.839 there's there's one of those with the cartoon duck, and then another just 233 00:19:55.920 --> 00:20:00.920 as Frankenstein's Monster, with a smock with Frankenstein's Monster on it. I would 234 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:06.240 say the most important reveal in this whole episode is that the entire main conflict 235 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.400 of the series, the boys being lost, is all a cops fault, 236 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:12.599 that's true, or a talking cop car. No, they didn't bother showing 237 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:18.880 us the faces of the police officers because they're not people, but the chase 238 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.920 them over this garden, this garden wall. Yeah, they're harassing kids all 239 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:27.079 night and then taking way too long to say just getting happy Halloween. But 240 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.720 yeah, the whole thing is the cops fault because Greg and Wurt are in 241 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.000 the cemetery. Why are they in the cemetery, Well, it's what Greg 242 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.519 believes is a frog hunt. Greg is also I feel like we talk a 243 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.319 lot about Greg being the MVP of every episode, and it's still true, 244 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:45.079 although it's a very work focused one. But we get iconic moments such as 245 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:48.240 please don't call the old lady. Yes, sir, young man. And 246 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.920 just before we'd enters the Halloween party, there's these two kids standing in front 247 00:20:53.920 --> 00:21:00.240 of the house talking about stickball, sick and ball games besides base ball. 248 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.839 Yeah, baseball is not the only stick of ball game. There's one old 249 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:04.960 cat, too old cat? Yeah, and he lists one old cat and 250 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:11.079 two old cat And so Greg has overheard this and what we saw back in 251 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:15.599 the school episode, Greg attempting to play this is attempt to play the game, 252 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:21.119 to reconstruct the game from only its title, right, So it's a 253 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.000 call back at call forward situation. How do you play too old cat? 254 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:27.839 I stip come on speaks for itself. You find two old cats, No, 255 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:32.799 but not not a too old cat. That cat's too old. Is 256 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:33.880 that a real game? Is it a real game? I guess it is 257 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.240 a real game. Let's look it up old cat or cat ball? Uh 258 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:44.480 huh? Were bat and ball safe haven games played in North America? So 259 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:48.079 it's a it pregates baseball. Yeah, there's a lot of a little kind 260 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.480 of it's like a mix of a callback and a call forward, like setting 261 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.559 up what previously was like a strange out of context thing that now has context 262 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:03.240 in this this backstory episode, like we see how Greg got the rock facked 263 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.759 rock from old Lady Dan or young man Daniel, sorry, young man Daniel's 264 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:14.200 yard, and we also we get the exploitation of why we're dressed that way, 265 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.440 but also why Greg is dressed that way, why he has an upside 266 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:21.079 down teapot on his head. He is stressed as an elephant course, I 267 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:25.720 mean obviously you see his trunk. Yeah, and this there was going to 268 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:30.240 be kind of a set up slash payoff for that way back in episode one. 269 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:33.000 It was a line that got cut when Wert tells Greg like, oh 270 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:34.400 no, that was a bad plan. I told you to forget that plan. 271 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:40.480 Greg was going to say an elephant never forgets. But that line was 272 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:42.240 cut for time, I assume. But I think it would have been really 273 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:47.599 funny, because that's all it's a It functions without the context, and then 274 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:52.880 with the context it's even funnier. And not only is Greg in the cemetery 275 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:57.279 for a frog hunt, but Wort is there because Sarah is there, and 276 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:00.480 why is Sarah there for you know, ine appropriate drinks? You know, 277 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:04.279 nothing illegal or anything like, yeah, stuff that's not illegal. I love 278 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:08.240 that long and I love that we'ren't like either doesn't get it or is playing 279 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.039 along. He's just oh like juice. I mean, he definitely doesn't get 280 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:15.559 it. When Greg and Wert enter the graveyard though, when they're hiding behind 281 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:19.480 the gravestones to spy on Sarah and Jason Vouderberker and the rest of them, 282 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:26.759 one of the gravestones actually has the name Quincy Endicott written on it aka the 283 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:33.039 eccentric rich guy from the episode Mad Love What, and the gravestone next to 284 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:37.960 it you cannot read, but it is in a distinctly French Rococo style, 285 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:47.200 which implies which implies that that would be Mago Gras gravestone Ella the Quincy Endicott 286 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:52.519 gravestone. And the fact that we see they travel into the unknown by drowning 287 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:57.960 seems to imply a lot of what we've already kind of been theorizing about. 288 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.759 These children are dead or somewhere between life and death or are they in a 289 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:11.279 coma the whole time, much like Ash catch Him before them. Yes, 290 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.759 indeed we're Finn from Adventure time depending on who you ask, but yeah, 291 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:19.759 it certainly would make a lot of sense given all the Dante's Inferno type stuff 292 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:23.960 we've been seeing thus far in the show. They head over the garden wall 293 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:27.960 immediately almost get hit by a train, and then they fall into freezing water. 294 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:32.480 The old black train, The old black train. What about that old 295 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:36.920 black train? I hear it a comet? Yeah. Yeah. After that, 296 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:42.480 we get wort and dirt. Yeah, otp, this is my my 297 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:48.559 I call it otport. Did you do wort? We meet the rest of 298 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:53.400 Beatrice's family. Yeah, oh no, they're all blue birds. They're all 299 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.920 snuggling wort to keep him warm in a tree, in a tree, and 300 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.039 uh yeah, Beatrice, this mom is the only one that speaks. She's 301 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:08.000 played by Shirley Jones, famously from Oklahoma and the Partridge Family and the music 302 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:15.160 band Partridge Family. No, they're blue yeah Partridges. And they're not in 303 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:21.160 a pear tree. They're in an ad wood tree. That's true. They 304 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:26.480 twist your expectations and that's that. At the beach, this is the bethtub. 305 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.799 Yeah. After that, he goes into the unknown with the with the 306 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:38.680 hero callback cape thing to the unknown for real, this time forres and finally 307 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:42.440 having his ARC moment of admitting that he was never any good to his brother 308 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:48.759 alive because He's also still really mean in this flashback, and we get a 309 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.920 little more info about their family. Uh. He goes off about you know, 310 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.279 once again, you've ruined my life. You and your dad always trying 311 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.960 to get me to joint marching band. Yeah wait, you will play Clara. 312 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.799 Yeah, also get him closer to Sarah. Like, like Greg pointed 313 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.680 out, it's like, wait, if you were if you want to hang 314 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.720 out with someone, if you want to hang out with the mascot and you 315 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.000 play clarinet, why wouldn't you want to join? I mean it's again, 316 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:19.559 it's just showing how how abs were anxiety tends to be. Yeah, that's 317 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:26.319 to play against your interests a lot of the time thunders were. Yeah. 318 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:30.880 Yes, I just love how Greg's brain works, like it's very much like 319 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.519 a b This is what you need to do, Like you want to hang 320 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.200 out with Sarah, play the clarinet, join the marching band. He is 321 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:42.960 unspoiled by all of the uh garbage that an adult brain will give you. 322 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:48.880 Sometimes my brain just gives me garbage. Uh huh yeah yeah, mostly just 323 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.599 my brain telling me to eat my dirt. Yeah, let's all have a 324 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.039 quick snack break with some dirt. When when we come back, we'll cover 325 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:03.200 the final episode Over the Garden Well, Sunday. Was it a Sunday? 326 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:11.440 No, it wasn't. Oh it's a Friday. Came wayward, so little 327 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:22.440 wander through the dup darkness. There is a light for the lost, Stand 328 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:40.960 them salt and feisally for godtin when you submit to the soul, love the 329 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:47.720 ar So considering the last step, the previous episode was called Into the Unknown, 330 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:51.720 I wonder what this episode is called? What could it be? It 331 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:56.359 could be anything. It's a final episode. It's like the final chapter of 332 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.039 this story. Do you what's it called. It's kind of like the end 333 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.880 of this very long podcast journey. Actually, yeah, a little bit, 334 00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:08.559 a little bit, and then it will be left to just go out into 335 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:15.480 some kind of uh, well unknown I guess, or unknown well where it 336 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.079 is dressed as some kind of gnome as we learned, but he's not sure 337 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.880 if he's a gnome, so he's which makes it unknown. He's he's wearing 338 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:27.640 an unknome costume. Yeah. So that's the tenth and final episode of Over 339 00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.519 the Garden Wall. Oh yeah, when did it premiere? Oh? November 340 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.680 seventh, twenty fourteen. On a Little station. You might have heard of 341 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.960 that from that, you know, Ted Turner himself, the Cartoon Network. 342 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:44.160 Ohleodore Turner? How'd you get him? Turner? Yeah, Theodor Turner and 343 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:48.079 the Worst David? Who is it? Who is it? Written and storyboarded 344 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:49.920 by the Well I was written a story word by Natasha leg Rey, Jim 345 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:55.920 Campbell and Tom herpitch. Of course, of course, of course, of 346 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.400 course. Do you want to watch it? No? Yeah? Wait, 347 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.240 no, Ellie, you don't want to. It's two against one, so 348 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.359 yeah, I'll watch, Okay, Google, I believe in democracy, weird 349 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:17.079 energy in this episode. I love it, though. Are you ready to 350 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:30.200 see too Darkness? Are you? Are you? So? We just finished 351 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.400 watching Over the Garden Wall. Wait, I think you're a little ahead. 352 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.240 I'm still on the credits. Well, the credits is when it's over, 353 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.200 Ella, Well, we still had to see a rock go down first. 354 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.000 Yeah, you said something before the rock even went down. The rock went 355 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.880 down, and you know what that means? That Dad at that dad at 356 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:56.440 that cartoon cartoons. I would have to do that with the cartoon cartoon Cartoonoon. 357 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:03.920 Welcome to Cartoon Cardoon. Fridays, I'm TVs. The I'm TV's that 358 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.519 was a good joke that we made years ago. Yeah, so we just 359 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:14.400 finished Over the Garden Wall. The Rock went down, The rock went down, 360 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.079 The rock went down. I love this finelle. It's amazing. It 361 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:25.759 really really is amazing. In the art book they talk about how everyone who 362 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:30.079 boarded this episode had to do like a billion revisions because they kept retooling it. 363 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.319 Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. It's pretty tight. So 364 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.240 do you want to read this bit about the three acts? Show me? 365 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.799 All right? So the episode could be divided into three acts, each with 366 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:47.400 individual color palettes. The first was mostly white, the second black, whereas 367 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.039 the third is colorful. Pat McHale, the show's creator. Set in the 368 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.519 art of Over the Garden Wall book, the lighting in the second act is 369 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.119 meant to feel like a stage. That reference to the stage and opera is 370 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:03.359 a parent throughout, and is even more apparent through the evident talent of Samuel 371 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.920 Ramie, who portrays the Beast. Samuel Ramie was a star of the American 372 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.079 opera, and it shows through his operatic way of singing. Him when he 373 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.000 sings come Wayward Souls, I just want to like lay like my neck and 374 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.279 back on his vocal cords, to get like a to get like a massage 375 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.079 chair kind of effect out of his dibrata. It's actually how he performs it 376 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:29.279 on a massage chair, on a massage That's nice, that's very convenient. 377 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:38.359 Now I want to get a message. Can we just all get massage. 378 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:44.279 Let's go get a massage after this. I would love on my shoulders. 379 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.200 I have all of all of the tension I've ever had in my life is 380 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.000 still in my shoulders. Shelby con the US money to get massages over at 381 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.839 patreon dot com, slash mystery Shag. We're just gonna We're gonna be honest 382 00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:02.960 here, We're gonna use the money to get massages here. Here, you're 383 00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.720 here. I really love the sheer amount of operatic influences that this show does 384 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:12.880 take. Oh yeah, it's like kind of mind blowing to me because a 385 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.599 lot of people do say that opera is a dying art, but it's not. 386 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.839 And the fact that it does live on and things like over the Garden 387 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.480 Wall where they mirror like not only the structure of it, but they like 388 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:27.680 mirror other operas like Canceling, Gretel and every It's just it's really cool to 389 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.440 me the way that this show is done maybe a dying art, but this 390 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.880 episode is about dying. That's true. There's a lot of tech and I 391 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.880 love the first kind of set piece of the episode. Amalia Lavari says it 392 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.599 best in the art book, saying, so much of the humor in the 393 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.519 series comes from Greg's fearlessness. The points of suspense and actual fear. The 394 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.839 stakes come out of his courage, but also his obliviousness. One of my 395 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.319 favorite scenes is his encounter with the Beast because of how casually a child can 396 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.160 answer degrees of evil, the degree to which the Beast is sinister doesn't register 397 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.680 with Greg because his worldview doesn't make room for that caliber of ill intent. 398 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.240 Being able to take a character like that into an actually dangerous situation was really 399 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:07.559 challenging and really thrilling. We wanted to be true to his character, and 400 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.480 we wanted to be true to the impulses that he has, which tend to 401 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.240 vacillate between being really funny and kind of terrifying. Because he has this this 402 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:21.240 series of challenges that the Beast puts before Greg, and Greg, you know, 403 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:25.480 aces all of them by finding these creative white milk. The cape as 404 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.799 red as flood Slipper is cold, Yeah, pretty much, because he has 405 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:37.839 this inventiveness that really only his perspective could give as as as a child. 406 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:45.680 And it's so interesting how the Beast talks to him because he's not like actively 407 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.680 threatening, Like it's like the Beast still understands that this as a child, 408 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.640 and he is using him for his own ends, but not in a way 409 00:33:52.680 --> 00:34:00.000 that makes Greg feel uncomfortable. Greg feels like he's winning, is winning always, 410 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.799 no way he's dying. But even as he's dying, as he's being 411 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.759 transformed into an adle wood tree, he tells where like I did and I 412 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:13.320 beat the beast, because that's how that whole scene went down. We also 413 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.159 get to reveal yeah, soiling green is people. The adle wood trees that 414 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:22.400 the Woodsman has been chopping up to fuel the lantern solent green are soiling green 415 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.719 and that's people. Well they're more brown. Well, I got leaves on 416 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.159 him, brown leaves, well, multiicolored leaves. It's fall, turning turning 417 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:37.199 into winter though turning into winter. Yes, this episode also kind of transitions 418 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.760 us from an autumn scenery to a winter scenery. He was also eating some 419 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:46.599 leaves earlier. It's my favorite line in the whole episode. I was just 420 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:54.519 eating some leaves as he's dying. U and Work reunites with Beatrice in this 421 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.719 episode, and we get the song one is a Bird, which I think 422 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.920 is also sung by a Shirley Jones. Yes, sure is. I think 423 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:06.519 we heard a little instrumental of it in the previous episode and maybe some episodes 424 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.280 prior. It's kind of been like Beatrice's motif because Beatrice is a bird. 425 00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.400 Yeah, she's the one, the titular one. She is the one. 426 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.840 And Word is the guy. Yeah, he is the guy. I'm the 427 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.840 guy, the real guy. And I say, we go in, we 428 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.840 beat this unwinnable level and we get to the other side. We're untold riches 429 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:35.119 in a bounty fit for ten kings awaits us. Oh, he's definitely the 430 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.480 guy. But yeah, I love how they calling back to that quote. 431 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:42.559 It's really interesting because I never thought about the way the color palette does distinctly 432 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.880 change in the three acts. Yeah, and lighting it like a stage I 433 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:51.400 never thought about too, because the lantern like lights it in this void like 434 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.480 a stage light. And like I guess it's like the transfer between one and 435 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:59.320 the other is when it goes from the silhouette of the white into the black, 436 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.559 and then this luette of the black with the white in it, Like 437 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:06.400 that's the transfer from one to the other, which is very and yang thing. 438 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:12.480 Yeah, yeahhh, this just's so good. It's so good. There's 439 00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.480 the one background when the Woodsman is walking and it's like you see, it's 440 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.039 kind of a sunset where there's still like color hitting the trees in the sky, 441 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.239 but everything else is white and gray, and just like that's I love 442 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:28.079 this shit. Aren't white and gray? The main character's name you're thinking of 443 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:35.079 Gandalf Wiret and Greg. That's Gandalf the gan off the wort, off the 444 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:38.039 wort and off the Greg, get off the wort and gan off the Greg. 445 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:47.280 Yes. So the operatic music that accompanies Dying Greg, Oh my god, 446 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.400 it's the funniest and saddest thing in the world is a cover of his 447 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.760 of his hit track Potatoes and Molasses in Latin, sung by a child choir, 448 00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.480 sung slowly and dramatically. I think that's Colin Deine sing. I think 449 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.039 it's yeah, I think it's a single. It's a single voice. It's 450 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.679 just calling, but like there's a choir that comes in with a oh oh, 451 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:15.039 tiny Seed, that's true. Yes, uh, performed by Colin Dean 452 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.760 and the Unknown Children's Square and then yeah, Greg kind of steps back to 453 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:28.800 it. Ladies and gentlemen, the Unknown Children's choir, Tiny Seed, aren't 454 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.480 they wonderful? Aren't they wonderful? Folks? Now I am going to die? 455 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.280 And the frog looks so sad and cold with his little crossed legs when 456 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:47.039 he's leaning up against the tree. With the art book says that the frog's 457 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:52.639 expressions are supposed to be the key into how Greg is feeling. Yeah, 458 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.440 I think I think that stays pretty consistent throughout, but here, especially in 459 00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:01.480 a similar manner to Cami and Street Fighter Watch Street Fighter. For Mystery Shack 460 00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:07.039 Look Back, we called Kylie Minogue John Claude Van Dam's emotional interpreter because his 461 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:12.440 acting is so bad we don't know what we're supposed to feel when he performs 462 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.840 until Kylie reacted to it right. And in this case, Greg has an 463 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:21.559 excuse on account if he's being transformed into a tree. That was the case 464 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:25.159 for j C in that fing probably also getting kind of a kind of an 465 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.960 Et and Elliott vibe of like, yeah, I can picture the frog frog 466 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:35.880 like pasty white, washed up on a riverbank, like dying, like et 467 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.119 frogs are just like yeah, well or et is just like frogs. They're 468 00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.360 slimy, they sound like a chainsmoker, that kind of thing. They get 469 00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:47.280 everywhere, they get everywhere, they get everywhere. So we get to see 470 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.719 the beast very briefly. We get to see the beast's true form. It's 471 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:59.760 real bad. Don't like looking at it. I don't either. It's to 472 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:04.639 avoke trip to phobia. But it's only like, not all of him is 473 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.840 on frame at once. We got a quick glimpse each like section of him 474 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:15.039 has only a frame. He's made of a bunch of crying faces. Yeah, 475 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.920 which makes sense. If he himself is made of the Ata wood, 476 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:24.159 then he's made of lost souls, wayward souls, in fact, wayward souls. 477 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.639 Yeah. They came to him, him eat them, and then him 478 00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:36.320 eat them Ella eat them souls, and that's not good. And and the 479 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:40.400 woodsman didn't know he was helping the beast eat them souls. No, if 480 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.599 he had known, he never would have agreed to their whole arrangement. Oh 481 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:47.119 yes, the background that I really like is in the art book. It's 482 00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:52.000 on page one sixty eight. Yes, yes, And I love that the 483 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:57.440 Woodsman like exits, you know, stage left to have a boss battle with 484 00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.280 the beast that we don't see, just so that Work can come in and 485 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.000 have a private conversation with Greg. Yeah. Oh, and we get Greg's 486 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:09.320 like this really really fascinating insight. I think it too, like Greg's whole 487 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.719 character this whole time, because he reveals in the previous episode we saw that 488 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.480 he got the rock facts rock from young Man Daniel's garden, but here he 489 00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:22.199 reveals that he actually stole it, that he is a stealer and that is 490 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:28.360 a rock fact, and like the realization that he's been carrying that guilt with 491 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.000 him like the whole time, and that everything that Wurtz said has only been 492 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.000 like implanting that further and further in his head, that like, this is 493 00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.119 all your fault. You have done something terrible and now it has killed us. 494 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:45.360 Yeah, is heartbreaking, just like the way a child brain puts those 495 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.840 pieces together even though they don't make sense right. And it's tragic for Word 496 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:51.880 as well, because he's only just now realized the error of how he's been 497 00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.800 interacting with with Greg this whole time. And here's Greg saying, yeah, 498 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.559 you were right all along. You know, I am a screw up and 499 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.920 I should just be left here. And the word of the first episode might 500 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:06.760 have just left the word of episode one might have just left him there. 501 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.320 Yeah, and now and now it's it's all he wants to do is bring 502 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:13.400 his brother home, and this is the one time that he can't because he's 503 00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:15.960 turning into a tree and dying, which is you know, who can't relate 504 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:20.639 to that? Yeah? I can relate deeply though, to the kind of 505 00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:27.880 to what I interpret from the whole Beast and Lantern situation. I started to 506 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:32.239 see it as a really apt like analogy or metaphor could be read for obsessive 507 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:38.480 compulsive disorder, where the Beast is essentially a representation of OCD because he has 508 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:45.400 convinced to the Woodsman that he needs to do this task repeatedly forever, or 509 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.760 else his daughter will die, his daughter's soul will be extinguished. He implants 510 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.960 these like terrible, terrible ideas into the Woodsman's head and says, you have 511 00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.920 to do X, Y Z or else this will happen, which is a 512 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.119 course complete nonsense. But Work is the only one who realizes that from his 513 00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.280 outside perspective, because he just says, wait, that's dumb, because the 514 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.360 whole, you know, the essence of OCD is that fulfilling your compulsion never 515 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.079 actually helps the thing you think it's helping. It only feeds the OCD more 516 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:21.800 it is the beast's soul in the lantern. You are only serving itself. 517 00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:25.239 It's not actually doing what it says it's doing. Yeah, and even Wort 518 00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:30.119 says, like, you just have some obsession with keeping this lantern. It's 519 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:31.840 almost like it's your soul. And he's like, what, no, no, 520 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:37.079 it's your soul. Shut up. Yeah, yeah, I love work 521 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.039 failing at his badass line it's like are you ready to see true darkness? 522 00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:45.239 And where it's like are you? Are you? But then he does he 523 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.079 actually does get a pretty bad ass moment where he goes to blow out the 524 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.440 lantern and then just kind of goesh, yeah I thought so, and then 525 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.880 he just puts it down by the woodsman and is like, yeah, this 526 00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:00.679 is your fight, not mine. That's that's genuinely like just satisfying moment for 527 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:06.639 him. And apparently the Woodsman's daughter was just still in the house. Apparently 528 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.320 you just forgot to look at his house, right, which I mean I 529 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.920 think I initially thought like, oh, that's such a cop out. It 530 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:17.199 should be like about accepting grief and stuff. But it's through the OCD lens. 531 00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:20.360 It does make a lot of sense because a lot of times the thing 532 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.920 that you think is wrong isn't even actually wrong in the first place. Like 533 00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:29.119 there's actually a no problem and you have completely invented it. She's like, 534 00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.440 yo, Dad, where you bit? Yeah, you haven't been here in 535 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.920 like a few months. What's up? Well, I thought, yeah, 536 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.840 although didn't the cut did the comics give an explanation of that? Yeah, 537 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.960 she just no, that's it. He just didn't see her in the house. 538 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.960 Oh well, she probably was like out, so okay. So as 539 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.840 a kid, I was always like super paranoid that the rapture was gonna happen, 540 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.880 and it was a completely interrational thing. No, I'm so sorry. 541 00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.440 Yeah, And so like my terror was anytime I could not get in contact 542 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.159 with my friends or my family like happened and you were left behind exactly. 543 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.400 So I feel like it's probably that kind of scenario, like she was literally 544 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:12.599 just out getting bred. He didn't know where or why why would you tell 545 00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:16.320 a kid about that because Christianity's freaked. But yeah, no, I assume 546 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.719 that that's what it was. Like there was just like no note was left, 547 00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.679 and so he just started spiraling too, my daughter is gone, like 548 00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:30.599 because he has oct exactly and he well he also I feel like he's like, 549 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.639 well, I don't know, life EXPECTANCYE in this time period is like 550 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:39.920 what thirty, So she's probably dead. I mean, like in a hypothetical 551 00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:44.880 situation, like it could have been that there was a storm that separated them 552 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.119 and he went to go look for her, and that was his entrance into 553 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:52.519 the unknown, was that he got like he had a near death experience looking 554 00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.480 for his daughter. Right. We do know all this because there is a 555 00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:01.880 comic about it. Yeah, my story better than just she was just in 556 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:06.239 the house and he forgot to look. Yeah, it was something like that. 557 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.119 I could I could go look real quick if y'all want. Yeah, 558 00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:12.920 chrack, chrack, based where's my daughter? Did you check inside the house? 559 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:17.239 Oh no, I didn't. Sorry, whole things circumvented. Oh wait, 560 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:20.639 no, I mean he's she's in the lantern. No, No, 561 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.559 you're right, she was in the house. She was in the house. 562 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:30.199 Can't No, I like big boots and I cannot lie all right one sick 563 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.679 y'all. In the meantime, I will point out that when we venture into 564 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.000 the real world again, when we're back safe at the hospital, there is 565 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:45.079 a wide shot of the city and for seemingly no reason, it's the same 566 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:50.519 city as the town and the show Clarence, which was another cartoon network show. 567 00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.039 Reason is that there was a lot of work put into this episode and 568 00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:59.039 it's safe that they tried to reuse the background. Yeah, it's just fascinating 569 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:00.800 how like it is, because there's like, you know, there's a very 570 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:06.440 specific bowling Alley sign or it's like, you know, they're using a very 571 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.880 non generic looking city background, so you know, it's it's what It's kind 572 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:15.679 of like one of those Pixar theory things, where like Tixart will reuse assets 573 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:22.079 because movies are expensive and they have everything in like a CG backlot to pick 574 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.760 and reuse, and then people interpret that as a shared universe thing. But 575 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.360 I do think it would be really funny if something as like grim as Over 576 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.039 the Garden Wall existed in the same universe as Clarence, which is an incredibly 577 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.599 lighthearted show. Well, it doesn't exist in a separate world. So that 578 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.800 means if Clarence were to drown, I mean also separate time period, right, 579 00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:46.719 because Clarence is a takes place in the modern day and this is apparently 580 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:51.760 the seventies or eighties or something. Yeah. So, yeah, she was 581 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:58.679 told to not go out because he was afraid she would get hurt. She 582 00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.719 does make me wicked. Yeah, no, well he's yes, very paranoid 583 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.800 that something bad is gonna happen to her because of what happened to his wife. 584 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:12.440 Okay, so she goes out anyway, he goes looking for her and 585 00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:16.000 runs into the beast. She did run into the beast prior to that, 586 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:21.039 so you'd think, oh, maybe the beast got her. But she comes 587 00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:25.239 back and says, you were right about the beast, but I made it 588 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.400 home safe and sound, didn't I. So next time I go into the 589 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.119 woods at night, we don't have to be afraid of him, do you 590 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.159 see? We just and he is not at that so I think maybe you're 591 00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:43.280 right about that OCD thing exactly. That whole line that she says about we 592 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.440 can go out and not be afraid is like that is the antidote, that 593 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:51.679 is the antithesis of what Ozdi tells you. But it also could be interpreted 594 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.159 since she did run into the beast and he cannot find her that maybe she 595 00:47:54.360 --> 00:48:00.320 isn't in her house proper. Maybe she's being kept somewhere pocket dimension house. 596 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.519 Yeah, that looks like her house. Or maybe yeah, she ran into 597 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:07.320 the beasts. She got away, and he saw the beasts they were ships 598 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:12.719 passing in the night. Yeah. I like the the unknowning of of Greg 599 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.400 and Wurt In the end, Greg's good boy haircut is very good. Greg's 600 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:21.679 good boy haircut. Yeah, Like they clean him up and they give him 601 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:27.199 a brescious hair He looks so fancy and his pajamas and his grippy socks. 602 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.239 What what a sweet beans? And he's wearing a Sarah's top hat or the 603 00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:36.039 frog is yeah, well, Jason Funderberger is Yeah, I only get the 604 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:40.719 name of the of of our frog, Jason Frog. No, no, 605 00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:46.440 no, no, not your frog, hour not you Jason Funderberger, Jason 606 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:51.880 Vanderberger by frog. And I don't know if this is confirmed, but I 607 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.280 think I think I've seen in order to distinguish, I think I've seen Jason 608 00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.239 Funderberger the frog's name spelled with like a different letter like a you and intead 609 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:06.599 of an E somewhere, instead of Jason Voderberger the pathetic man, it would 610 00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.559 just be how Greg thinks it spelled. Okay, yeah, there you go. 611 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:13.840 We also get something that I find really interesting of like, you know, 612 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:19.719 the closing narration starts of like was it all a dream or whatever? 613 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:25.320 Something something, But when Greg is showing off the frog to everybody, he 614 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.960 shakes the frog and the bell that is still in the frog's tummy glows the 615 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:36.840 ringing of the bell, And I think that's really interesting because I love, 616 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.039 you know, anytime there's a little hint of like, okay, maybe it 617 00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:45.199 did really happen, like it isn't just Wizard of Oz esque and you were 618 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:52.880 there and you were there, you weren't there Jason Vanderberger. Yeah, No, 619 00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:58.400 it's it's hinted to have been real. I would say, right, 620 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.800 I mean, that's kind of hard to dispe Yeah. But then there's the 621 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.599 I don't know. I liked that there's not really a clear answer because there's 622 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:08.079 that, and there's also the tombstones from the previous episode with Quincy Endicott's name 623 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:14.119 on it, which is also pretty indisputable. I don't know, did we 624 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:19.039 have any theories back then gang as to what was going on? I was 625 00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:23.760 just watching it with rapt attention, being like, what is what is happening 626 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:30.480 here? Yeah? But I had gotten into it two years after it premiered, 627 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.000 right, Yeah, I had seen it. I was pretty involved in 628 00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.599 the Gravity Falls fandom on Tumblr, so I had seen it discussed a lot. 629 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:43.599 So I had seen Purgatory mentioned and kind of went into the series knowing 630 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.480 that was an interpretation of form. Nah. Yeah, I think that because 631 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:51.360 of how quickly the episodes were released, because it was a mini series, 632 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:53.480 there wasn't time for speculation. Yeah, it's very much in the moment of 633 00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:58.000 Gravity Falls, where this was released all in a week, and Gravity Falls 634 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.960 was released, you know, painfully slowly. So then the speculation comes on 635 00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:07.199 the Overall series. What is it about? What are the themes? Where 636 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:12.639 are they? The over the Garden Wall. Yeah, overall is a shortened 637 00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:16.440 nickname for over the Garden Wall. My favorite thing of the world. Yeah, 638 00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:23.239 overall. I love overalls, like wearing overalls. Yeah, yeah, 639 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:29.639 you've dressed Greg over the Garden, Greg over the gardenals. I need to 640 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.480 make some of those some just like overalls with over the Garden Wall characters. 641 00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:37.039 Yeah, I think that's why these last two or maybe just the last episode 642 00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.519 like fuels the speculation the most because that's, you know, people viewed it 643 00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.039 as a pretty much a completed piece, whereas instead of going from week to 644 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.360 week, I'll say one of my favorite things is that if you do watch 645 00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.599 the last episode and then go back and watch the first episode, as I 646 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.199 usually do with shows like I usually go back and watch the first episode after 647 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.360 I finished the last one. Yeah, it's a circle. Like everything that 648 00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:05.639 happens in that first rhyme, Yeah, it kind of like it reflects back 649 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.880 on that first episode really beautifully. It's just right great because we see the 650 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:14.840 old mill again. He goes back to the house and tries to refuel the 651 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:22.880 lantern as we hear the reprise of Into the Unknown now with the full chorus. 652 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.880 We do see, yes, the the images from the first episode, 653 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:32.159 except more hopeful and optimistic this time. So instead of Quincy Endicott looking frightened 654 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:39.760 at a dim portrait of Marguerite Gray, a well lit portrait of Quincy Endicott 655 00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:44.599 is admired by Marguerite Gray, all of them with man with bread, the 656 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:50.519 horse, Yeah, and then we see Langtree and Jimmy Brown at the circus. 657 00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:58.480 It was me. We see Beatrice and her family turned back into humans 658 00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:01.000 because had the scissors the whole time and didn't say because he was mad, 659 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:06.400 which makes sense. And we see them reunited with the dog. The dog, 660 00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:09.719 the dog who is not the beast. The dog is not the best 661 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:15.559 your beautiful eyes Beatrice's dog or is now she stole it? And the mill 662 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:22.159 was Beatrice's family's house because in the first episode there's a lot of bluebird imagery 663 00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.559 I believe in the in the house. Oh he stole her, that's whose 664 00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.159 house he stole, I believe, So why do you do that? The 665 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.760 fixed back up? Thank you? And then of course one of the vignettes 666 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:36.639 in the first episode is Greg picking up the rock, Greg stealing the rock 667 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:42.239 from young man Daniel's yard, and the last image is Greg putting it back. 668 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:49.119 Yes, which is just I love this show. I love symmetry so 669 00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:55.960 much. It's like poetry rhymes every stand. Hey, this podcast is kind 670 00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:00.840 of over, isn't it over? In the garden wall? You know it's 671 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:09.119 really spooky, is podcasts ending? Yeah? This podcast is dead dead, 672 00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:19.880 But anything we have to say before we go before we mosey on out of 673 00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.920 here and clean up all these cobwebs and things and lock her up for the 674 00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:29.440 season. Any final thoughts on Over the Garden Wall or podcast. I just 675 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:31.320 I just think that's one of the most perfect pieces of media just as a 676 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:37.800 whole. It's not long enough to have developed any flaws, which is beautiful. 677 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:42.960 Well, that's true. They do talk in the art book about we 678 00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:47.760 never learn the mysteries of the Black Turtles, and they talk about how in 679 00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:53.880 a lot of cultures there is this idea of doing an imperfect stitch on purpose 680 00:54:54.159 --> 00:55:00.679 on a pass of clothing, and they describe the the lack of solution to 681 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:04.880 the black Turtle's mystery as that right, and that's why it's perfect. If 682 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.880 it had every question answered, it wouldn't be as exciting to think about to 683 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.519 this day. And I think same with gravity Falls. There are questions that 684 00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:15.519 gravity Falls never answered intentionally to keep it alive, keep you talking, keep 685 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:22.280 you thinking about it forever mm hm, forever clever. If you yes, 686 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:30.840 you like tomatoes, if you like to talk to tomatoes, boom. If 687 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.840 you want to find more episodes of this podcast, go to our host network 688 00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:38.559 Pipe dreampodcasts dot com, where you can find other shows like Escape from valt 689 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:44.679 Disney, How did This not get made? Come on Fuqua pods and pod 690 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:50.280 made you specially where they talk about veggie till talk to tomatoes t veggie tit. 691 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.159 Well, I don't know if they how tomatoes. They should get my 692 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.360 wife on it so they can talk to it to talk to tomatoes. That 693 00:55:55.440 --> 00:56:00.599 is true, You're right, because they like to talk to tomat Yes, 694 00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:02.079 well, you're on pipetreon podcast dot com. You can find a link to 695 00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:06.400 our show's social media is our Discord server and our Patreon Patreon dot com. 696 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:07.920 Slash Mystery Shack. I don't know if you know this, but I wasting 697 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:13.519 podcasts actually costs money, so if you want to send us money through Patreon, 698 00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:16.639 we can continue to this podcast doesn't disappear one day. You can read 699 00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:22.159 the over the Garden Wall art book at the link in the description and David 700 00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.519 go to sleep. David, you're not supposed to be listening to this. 701 00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:32.920 David's as love, May you go the way of Bob Jpek. You can 702 00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:37.400 check out our merg shore crowdmate dot com, slash collection slash Mystery Shack look 703 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.639 Back and what better gift than the gift of a Mystery Shack look backshirt. 704 00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:45.960 That's true, It's true. Contact us at Mystery Shack look Back at gmail 705 00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:50.519 dot com. Thank you to Simmon the dim BULBB two hyphen zero for our 706 00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:54.880 intro instrumental And uh, I have something to plug. I mean we should 707 00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:59.119 all say our twitters and such. You're right, so this is the last 708 00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:01.920 episode of a Garden. I don't know that, well, maybe not Twitter 709 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:06.920 still exists. Yeah, I start us off, Charlie, what do you 710 00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:09.920 have to plug? I have a new show now that now that this podcast 711 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:15.000 is over, I'm constantly scheming, constantly working, constantly rubbing your hands together, 712 00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:20.719 sinisterly. I like to challenge myself and do something different than what I 713 00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:24.800 did last So a lot of people know me for an improv show, after 714 00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:30.039 which I made a comic do. I worked at a Renaissance fair, I 715 00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:35.079 produced a play for MAGFest. Yeah. So, now that I'm done with 716 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:39.320 this podcast, I thought it was the time to bring back the abridged series. 717 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:45.960 They will Never Die. It's real and it'll never die. I created 718 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:52.119 a series kind of based on what I learned to find interesting about myself through 719 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:59.760 this podcast and other sources. During the pines Quest episode where I got to 720 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:01.760 dump about Zelda, it occurred to me that, oh, this is not 721 00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:07.920 a past obsession for my childhood. This is something I'm still very much actively 722 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:13.679 passionate about. So I have a new show called Well Abridged Me Princess, 723 00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:19.440 which can be found on well abridge meprincess dot tumblr dot com. It is 724 00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.039 a comedy dub of the nineteen eighty nine Legend of Zelda cartoon, with me 725 00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:29.719 as the voice of Link and Zelda Ella co writes it. Yeah, Shelby 726 00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:37.360 voices rite. I'm really proud of it. I'm for once just focusing on 727 00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:42.920 me and what I think I'd like to make instead of what I think would 728 00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:46.920 get money or attention or articles written about it. Please check it out. 729 00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:52.039 I'm really proud. Well, I guess I'll plug my Instagram at drone without 730 00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:57.840 ref It's the same as Twitter, whatever Twitter becomes in this wild, messed 731 00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:04.119 up universe of hours. And yeah, you can check out my art and 732 00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:07.800 my animation and all that sort of good stuff there. You can also, 733 00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:14.039 I did just do a guest spot on pod Major Special. You can check 734 00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.559 that out as well, we've done guest spots on most of the Pipe Dream 735 00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:21.760 podcast. At this point, I would say, all right, you could 736 00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:23.960 check us out on Escape from Walt Disney. Come on for hooko pods and 737 00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:27.559 how did this not get made? So yeah, basically all of them, 738 00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:31.639 all the currently running ones. Yeah. Yes, So my handle on just 739 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:37.320 about every platform is at Shelby Sessler, just my name, my website Shelbysesler 740 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:42.440 dot com. And right now on YouTube, I'm working on a couple of 741 00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.960 owl House related things, specifically a prequel series. I'm working with an artist 742 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:52.880 named moon Meg, and so those will be released on Shelbeanie voiceover Shelbeanie vo 743 00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:58.519 on YouTube. Nice. So, signing up for the final time for the 744 00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:05.599 foreseeable future, I'm shooking Showy, and I'm chilling Charlie at this point more 745 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:09.639 of a winter chill. Just had a chilling chilling. It has been my 746 01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:22.639 extreme honor to have been l snare wolves. We brought it back. How 747 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:34.960 the gentle winds beacons through the leaves, uses honor colors, full dancing in 748 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:50.920 a swirl of golden memois, loveliest yes of wootsman. The time has come 749 01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:57.199 once again. Indeed, the moon cloths fall above. It must be time 750 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:01.159 to thank the patroots for keeping the lantern fuel as I toil in the depths 751 01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:07.599 of the forest. Our dearest, gratitude to Diddy Drift, Todd Diddy Buttons, 752 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:13.920 add on with joy, sit and an m easy snake, Oven friendly 753 01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:19.920 local Geek, Hope, he Salinas, Jamie Belts, May, Oliver, 754 01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:27.039 Pluto, Tuneo Series, Richard Scanling, Rowe Davis, Samantha Endley, Spencer, 755 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:31.440 Neil Campbell, Vnilin, Zuko Haiti, Purana, plant b Calusota, 756 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:39.440 David Cancel, Gwynn Prime, Calphen, Dossie Junior, bra Jesse, Marie 757 01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:47.599 McDougall, Rhyme Favor, Mamportin de Wambortin, Elizabeth Newenfeld, Stephen Patrick, 758 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:52.679 Mulholland, Stooling, Jubilation, Axel and roll for Arcana. Be sure to 759 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:59.280 keep that lantern lit. Woodsman, pray you don't disappoint me, help me 760 01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:05.000 carry my endless burden through the night. And Patreon not God slash mystery shack