WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:18.239 Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My 2 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:21.519 Candcast. I'm Canada, Dave, I'm groovy. On today's episode, we 3 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:25.199 have special guests Man man Plant joining us today. Hey, thank you for 4 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:30.120 joining us. I'm really excited for this woman. Uh a quick little breakdown. 5 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:32.719 We actually met you at I'm just a little bit to get this going, 6 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:36.840 hoh Man playing phone tag and just saying busy schedules. We've been trying 7 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:41.119 to make this happen since Bisco. We met at the Fena after party. 8 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:43.479 That was a good time, man. Yeah, that was a lot of 9 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:48.079 fun. And for those who haven't been njbiz Con, you definitely got to 10 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:52.200 get out there. It's definitely an experienced Yeah, definitely a place for networking 11 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:57.240 and me and other people, especially creators and influencers and just learning really about 12 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:02.039 the market and what's you know, the culture around. Like I mean, 13 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:03.560 I think the big thing you hit the nail on the head with is that 14 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.200 it's not just like you know, people with skew numbers, right, Like, 15 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:10.599 I think a lot of people assume it's just a business conference, which 16 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:12.719 it is, but it's not just if you're selling product. There's so much 17 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:17.079 that go into the industry and it's so cool to see it. The networking 18 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.079 is huge. I mean it sets less up with a bunch of interviews. 19 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.239 I mean, look that we got you on We're about to uh learn more 20 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.840 about you and talk about your podcast and we might be featured on that too. 21 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.480 But before we get into that, who are you and what do you 22 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.959 do? Break us down? Break it down? Okay, So Madman Plant 23 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:40.159 is actually a business UM registered here in Virginia. Were Um, as you 24 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:44.879 see on the table, We're a three D printed manufacturer, so um a 25 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:48.439 little bit. Madman Plant. When I first started growing it was illegal in 26 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:53.760 Virginia. I was before the curve, and I felt like a madman because 27 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:56.319 you know, I was like risking it all. You know. I had 28 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:59.239 this room that I'm in used to be just have tents in it, you 29 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:00.959 know what I mean. And we've fully built it out over time in the 30 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:06.079 span of like a year and a half, and it went from hiding it 31 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:10.280 in this one little room from the world to being on YouTube to everything. 32 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:15.560 And what kind of happened was we went on Instagram and I started promoting, 33 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.800 you know, my photos and then I have another three D printing business, 34 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.639 and somebody told me about low stress training clips and I was like, well, 35 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:25.879 shit, we have three D printers, we could make those. So 36 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.400 I looked into it and I was like, you know, there's a lot 37 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:31.240 of different designs. We made our own. That's one thing about us is 38 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:36.120 we don't download and print. Everything is custom designed by us. So these 39 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.840 are all one off pieces. But we looked at the community and then we 40 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.319 reached out to the community and we're like, hey, what do you guys 41 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.680 need, what do you guys want? You know, And we got a 42 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:47.719 lot of feedback and we turned that into a business model and turned it into 43 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:52.840 a company and now a Madman Plant, you know, the avatar and me 44 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.240 and everything is more of like the spokesperson for the company, who's you know, 45 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.280 doing other things like connecting and interacting, you know, being communal, 46 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:06.719 learning about different things, but also you know, working to build products that 47 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:10.240 people can use in their own lifestyle, from like our smoking accessories like our 48 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:15.759 high jar, to like dab stations, to vertical spacing that you can put 49 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:20.000 up in your tent. You know, it's real and everything, Mantle everything 50 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:23.599 plan. Those are low stressed training clips on the table right there as well. 51 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:27.800 Too, Yeah, right here, and these are our triclips. And 52 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.919 then we actually um for Halloween last year, we did bat clips, so 53 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:35.639 it makes it look like there's bats all on your branches instead of just the 54 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.439 regular clips. And then we have like our mainliners. So if you're going 55 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:43.479 to mainline your plant, you top off the top part and now your two 56 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:49.319 main branches will ride on that system, pushing them further out. What I 57 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.159 used to do is do tie downs. But the problem with tie downs is 58 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.960 if you top the men, like let's say you're living soil person, you 59 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:59.599 can't get into your garden anymore because you got all these strings and all these 60 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:03.240 like digs going in the ground. So this allows all that training and technique 61 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:09.639 to be above that canopy versus below, allowing you to still interact with your 62 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:14.560 soil and you know all that jazz. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, 63 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:19.000 oh yeah it does. So you're growing before it was legal, Like what 64 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.639 led you to growing? Like what led you into the industry? Obviously the 65 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.639 three D, the clippings and then all that, but what got you into 66 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.600 growing? And like, how do you do you consume cannabis as well? 67 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:33.040 I would say, yeah, so what got into growing? Was. I 68 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:38.480 used to spend like a thousand dollars a month on weed, right I smoke 69 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:42.319 religiously, right, Yeah, exactly, And I didn't want to pay for 70 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.240 weed anymore. Plus at the time, it wasn't legal in Virginia, so 71 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:47.560 I would have to go to DC, and I you know, I work 72 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.399 in DC with my clients, so you know, I'm back and forth from 73 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:57.480 there anyways. But i'd have to call advance or make it like you know, 74 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:02.160 you texted the app where weed, and then you have to make your 75 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.399 order, Then they verify your time. Then you got to show up forty 76 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:11.040 five minutes early. You got to wait in your car for anywhere from thirty 77 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:14.800 to forty five minutes. Sometimes they'll reroute you. Sometimes they'll make you go 78 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.319 to another stop where there'll be to pick up your order. It's really like, 79 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:26.279 it's really awkward and so much well, in DC, they'll drive it 80 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:29.600 to you, or they'll bring it right to you to your house, or 81 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.279 you can go pick it up. So if you're coming from in and out 82 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:35.040 of town like I was, you'd call in advance and then they'd tell you 83 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:39.279 where to meets. So they'd be like whole greens off of you know, 84 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:42.560 Case Street, and then you would go there and then they would text you, 85 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:44.480 and then you walk over the car, you give them the money, 86 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:47.600 they give you your bag. It's all packaged up really professional, but it's 87 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:54.199 it's still like the black label style and what you're paying for versus what you're 88 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:58.319 getting versus what I can grow here, right, you know, and maybe 89 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:01.120 a little bit more of an investment because you know, now I got soil, 90 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:05.720 electricity, all these other things, but my output is way better than 91 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:10.279 what I was buying and spending a thousand dollars a month on. So it 92 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:13.920 was taking it and being like, well, you know, I consume a 93 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:15.600 lot from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed. 94 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.399 I'm stone and it just helps me work. I have ADHD and like really 95 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:27.000 bad anxiety and stuff. Right for me, it really helps kind of like 96 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:30.199 like take the edge off, you know, and allow me to calm down, 97 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.639 really focused, get my work done. And for me it works. 98 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.839 You know, other people and maybe gets them in the couch and they can't 99 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:39.920 do anything, but for me, I actually think it if it is like 100 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:43.759 a nutrient or like preaching a choir, you really are preaching to the choir 101 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.560 here because like I feel the exact same way. I can a word it 102 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:48.439 better because like it does affect me in a way that it's like I don't 103 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:51.360 want it to say it's different than others, but like how people describe it 104 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.720 slowing them down, I mean I get what they mean. You take ane, 105 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.319 you smoke enough, way it'll slow you down. But like generally it 106 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.199 really keeps me moving, like I did, as long as I use it 107 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:04.319 in moderation or use it in my what I can do right you know, 108 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.879 if I'm obviously, if I'm smoking seven joints, I mean I'm slowing down, 109 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:14.240 you know, yeah for sure? For Sue. Yeah, so you 110 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:17.079 got a favorite strain? Oh good question, Okay, So yes I do. 111 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:21.639 My favorite strain right now is cherry Avenue. I've grown that out of 112 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:27.160 my last gross serie and it was phenomenal. We've been hearing a lot of 113 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:32.240 cherry genetics to getting trop cherry like cherry this it's popular right now too, 114 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.639 Like there's just something about it, but it's kind of funny. Sorry, 115 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:43.680 So envy genetics is Cherry Avenue. So they're no longer together, but they 116 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.120 still sell their packs. They I think they split up, but it's called 117 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.120 Envy Genetics and they make a whole wide range of different seeds, but their 118 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:56.040 cherry avenue was phenomenal. I actually picked that up at the last National Cannabis 119 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:01.839 Festival in DC from um Neptune Seed Bank. They were out there. I've 120 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.680 heard of that tune, actually almost bought from there. What's the you know 121 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:07.680 the cross is on that? I'm just you know, you know, I 122 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.800 don't know the crosses on it, But I can get you the information after 123 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:13.480 the show and we can play. Yeah. I'm just yeah, no, 124 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:18.800 I'm just so so curious. That just sounds like a good strain. Yeah, 125 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:20.920 well let's let's get into uh like so let's get into some madmen playing 126 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.639 questions. Now we got a little backste what dude, UM, do you 127 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:30.759 have like a like a mission statement or something that like you're like your goal, 128 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.559 you're that you do for maman plant, you're trying to do. Yeah, 129 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:35.480 if you go to our website, UM, we have a lot of 130 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:39.080 information, a lot of content, a lot of writing, and it really 131 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.360 articulates kind of what we're doing. And the mission statement really is it's we're 132 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:48.039 about education, motivation, and inspiration. Our job is here is to create 133 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.639 a positive environment for you to learn, grow, and experience. The funny 134 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.480 thing is is we all talk about how how we want to grow these really 135 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:00.440 great plants and how we want to be these great growers, But what happens 136 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:05.399 is it's all internalized. What about the community of growing, what about growing 137 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.159 together? And when we look at it, people are really isolated and people 138 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.799 don't want to share information. They don't want to share trade secrets because they're 139 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.039 afraid of other people will learn how to do it. And I want to 140 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:18.639 break that stigma. You know, the value is in the United States right 141 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:24.039 now we have a real chance to keep this normalize and to keep pushing this 142 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.240 for homegrowers because I'm all about the home guards. I'm not all about the 143 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.480 corporations or anything like that. But what I really free. It's not really 144 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:37.279 free if it's controlled. Yeah. Well, and also too is you know 145 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.519 we talk about, like I said, growing these plants, but what about 146 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.519 growing each other? What about empowering each other, teaching each other, allowing 147 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.159 other people to learn. And that's why we started our nonprofit and No Clone 148 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:52.039 Left Behind, which is also like just a movement in general, which is 149 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:56.480 the fact that when you're in your garden and you are to folliating those plant 150 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.720 limbs that you're thrown away our life going in the And you could easily give 151 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.039 that to somebody and they could grow that plan out and then have the nutrients 152 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.639 or medicine or whatever they want to call it for themselves, and now you've 153 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:13.759 now inspired somebody else to start growing. A lot of people have this concept 154 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.559 when I talk to them about not having a green thumb. Well, the 155 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.279 plants have been growing on their own for years and years and years. It's 156 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.960 just simple inputs. And when you learn to understand the plant, which is 157 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.639 honestly more so just leaving it alone allowing it to grow, you get really 158 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:33.519 good success. And I think that the power of doing that is not only 159 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:39.879 helping sustainable agriculture, but it's also showing people that this is a communal plant. 160 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.639 Any plant is clonable, you know what I mean. And being able 161 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.840 to give that to somebody and then they come back six months later and they're 162 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:48.799 like, hey, man, check this out. Here's an eighth This is 163 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.360 off the clone that you gave me No. Nine weeks ago, and it 164 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:56.200 flowered and it was amazing. He's like, you know, and I've had 165 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:00.279 that experience before. So I think that's pretty much. You know, the 166 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:05.200 big basis of the mission statement is it's it's all about positivity, good energy, 167 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:09.919 getting to the right information, eliminating bro science, the stigma. I 168 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.960 don't follow on a politics scale. I'm just here to instill goodness in the 169 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.519 community. I mean, I get a lot of shit from my mask as 170 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:22.559 is, you know what I mean. So my real big thing is positivity, 171 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.639 and I think that's what the world needs, even if you're not a 172 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:28.559 marijuana grower. Yeah, I do want to I want to ask like two 173 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.200 things. First of well, bro science, what do you mean by that? 174 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:33.080 I just like want to, like so for some maybe some of our 175 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:37.519 listeners who haven't heard that term and like and for me, yeah, so 176 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.720 bro science is something that your friend came up with because he heard it from 177 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:48.639 somebody with no real research. Like, for the instance, cloning generational plants, 178 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.519 Like let's say you take a mother and you clone it out. Well, 179 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.159 some people say you can only clone three generations of that plant and then 180 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.000 it'll start to degrade. That's bullshit. You can clone that plant as many 181 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.559 times down as you want, interesting and it'll still be the same plant because 182 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.840 it's the same clone. It's the same pheno. And that's what I'm talking 183 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.679 about. Bros. Science. Whoever said that it goes around like wildfire? 184 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.159 And I heard in my clone classes all the time, and I'm telling people 185 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.720 that's not true, you know what I mean. Interesting, I get it, 186 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.360 But there's a lot of miss if someone you know, shit, this 187 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:22.600 is how you do it, and then it's just been passed on wrong, 188 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.399 you know. So, or you talk to somebody that's never grown, that 189 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:31.240 just has a bunch of information about growing, and it's like, huh right, 190 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.080 right, right, I read I read it on the internet. They 191 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:41.559 can't lie there everything On the other that's right, Um, you just mentioned 192 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.440 the face covering, man, I ask why that you you would do wear 193 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:48.840 the face covering. Yeah, and that's specific face covering as well too, 194 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:54.440 and I'm curious on that, Like, yeah, the great two questions. 195 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:58.480 So the first question is, um, my son has autism, and I'm 196 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:03.360 heavily involved with his schooling as far as boy scouts, his soccer coaching. 197 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.960 So I'm want a lot of things that require background checks and I'm looked at. 198 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:11.919 Plus I'm a multi business owner. I own multiple businesses and the public 199 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:16.320 lies. I have government contracts. I work with a lot of school systems, 200 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.039 education systems. So it's not that I don't want to show my face. 201 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.440 It's just if one of these contracts sees my face on the camera, 202 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:30.279 it just doesn't go with their their mission statement of what they're doing. And 203 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.720 that unfortunately, that's the stigma that we live in and that's unfortunate for me. 204 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:37.480 But at the same time, I still want to be out here. 205 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.000 I still want to be here. It visited me. You got something to 206 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.919 say, right, and I appreciate that. That's why when we met you 207 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.679 were like and then we looked at your content, I're like, oh, 208 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:48.639 I like this cat. We definitely want to get you on and stuff and 209 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.200 talk about it. But I just find its fascinating that you get slacked for 210 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.720 that, so for wanting to maintain necessarily your real life. But because like 211 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:00.240 right now, we live in a place where it's not decriminalized yet, you 212 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.240 can still be looking especially like you know, maybe here in Michigan or in 213 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.279 California where it's been legal for a long long time, you just kind of 214 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.240 forget that. But it's like, is not like that everywhere and very much 215 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:13.720 different everywhere in every state. I mean in our nation, people have bad 216 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:15.639 views. Like you said, if you got a government, if you got 217 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.600 government contracts, um, a lot of government officials still don't like cannabis. 218 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:26.720 Like that makes complete sense on the mask and then um second yeah, so 219 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.960 and then that's a touch on it is. When you're a business owner, 220 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:35.200 it's a lot different than working for somebody because working for somebody, you're kind 221 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:39.519 of under that shield that you're protected by that umbrella of the business. Right, 222 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.320 So they're looking at like Verizon, So Verizon is a reputable company, 223 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.679 right, so they're not looking at the individual. But when you're the business 224 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:50.919 owner and you're going in introducing yourself as the owner, people look at you 225 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.840 differently and they will find reasons which you can't even fathom of why they don't 226 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:00.519 want to spend money with you. And it could be as it was that 227 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.480 and I actually dealt with a thing where they tried to remove me from the 228 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.759 cub Scouts because I quote unquote smelled like weed. Now the guy that quote 229 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.639 unquote said I smell like weed is an alcoholic and then the d EA. 230 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:15.039 But you know, it's kind of funny that you know, he goes home 231 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.000 and drinks every night. But I can't. I can't show up early. 232 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.559 I think about a really great mood with the kids, running awesome classes, 233 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.960 the cub Scout leader and everybody goes home. And you know, I also 234 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:28.600 teach soccer, you know, I do a lot of different things. And 235 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:33.480 it's just so funny that I'm the problem still, right, you know what 236 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:35.559 I mean, because I'm the one that stone you know what I mean. 237 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.320 But I mean, it's weird the reality, yeah, you live in that 238 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.399 we live in this place where like people are still allowed to pass judgment because 239 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.080 that stigma is still very alive and well you know. But at the same 240 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.720 time, it's like the only reason why he knows is because it smells. 241 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.919 It's such a strong smell, like you know, I mean, like he 242 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.360 wouldn't even it's like mind business, you know, like I'm not over here 243 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:56.360 for when you're you know, drinking. He literally said, hey, can 244 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:58.960 I talk to you for a second, pulled me out of the classroom and 245 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:02.159 said, hey, I don't know if it's in the by laws, but 246 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:03.919 you smell like weed, and I'm going to do everything in my power to 247 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.240 remove you from your position. I was like, yeah, and I was 248 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.519 like good luck. I went into the classroom, picked up my son, 249 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.120 walked out, had some words with them, caught him a joke, and 250 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.879 we left the ability and I joined another cub Scout group. And the person 251 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.559 that put me as I'm a committee lead now, so I'm way higher in 252 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:27.200 the position she used to grow weed back in college. I'll open your mind 253 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:30.799 a little bit. And that's a big thing. People who smoke cannabis and 254 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.840 understand cannabis know that. It was like if you smoke a ball, you're 255 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.440 still okay, you know. I mean like the people will have a little 256 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.320 bit more understanding. That person's coming from a place of not understanding and probably 257 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:45.799 misinformation and passed on propaganda or just hate in general, you know. And 258 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.000 it's such a shame that though you know, he can just be like, 259 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:49.559 oh, I'm gonna get you out of your power, Like, okay, 260 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.159 calm down, get off your high horse. Well, I lived at the 261 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.799 by laws. As long as I'm not promoting it, advertising it, selling 262 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:00.279 it, or influencing the kids to use it, it doesn't matter what I 263 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:04.200 fucking do before or after. It's in the buy laws and it says includes 264 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:14.119 marijuana. Yeah okay, And as far as the mask, a lot of 265 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.319 people are like, oh, you know, I'm hiding from something, you 266 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.839 know. They feel like it's a Vice documentary. Every time they watch my 267 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:23.559 content, they say that I can't make a real connection with people because they 268 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.839 can't see my face. And the funny thing is, when I'm at these 269 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:30.759 events, I usually have the mask off. I only put the mask on 270 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:34.640 when I'm really on camera, so most people who meet me actually get to 271 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.759 see my face, so it's not really like I'm hiding myself. I just 272 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.680 got to do this for public reasons because I don't want to lose the opportunity 273 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.279 to be in my son's life and my son having autism, that's very important 274 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.359 to me, you know what, I mean to remain in sha positions. 275 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:52.200 I'm glad you shared this because it's a very personal you know reason, you 276 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.759 know. And I'm you know, stick to your guns, because like you 277 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:57.920 know, can't let the internet, you know, judge us and give a 278 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.440 shit because at the end of the day, they're always gonna have opinions. 279 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:04.240 Yep. And then your next question, why is it checkered? The reason 280 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.960 that it's checkered is I didn't want to be one color, right, and 281 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.039 I think also what people think and even understand about the mask is what I 282 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.920 bring is a non biased approach. In the world that we live in, 283 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.200 we're very judgmental. We're quick to judge based on what you look like, 284 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.160 how you speak, anything like this, And when you come to my content, 285 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.319 you don't know what I look like if you've never met me in person, 286 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.680 right, And I think that's the beauty of it is it's the forefront 287 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.440 of what I'm actually talking about. So there is no cash and judgment. 288 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:36.519 I'm not black, I'm not white, I'm not Hispanic, I'm not Asian, 289 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:41.880 I'm everything these black and whites is a communal look. It's not one 290 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.359 color, it's not one demographic. It's all about the plant, the education, 291 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:48.920 the inspiration. That's what this is about. So in a way, 292 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.240 it's not even about me. So why why you know, at the end 293 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.960 of the day, you know, my face really doesn't matter. What matters 294 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.680 is our time together and what we can learn and how we can influence each 295 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.319 others to smoke better, grow better, you know, enjoy life better. 296 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:08.119 You know we have like the world is hurting and as people, especially in 297 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.839 the it seems to be in the cannabis community. We seem to be about 298 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:17.440 healing and I've seen a lot of that and I think that is beautiful and 299 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:22.640 I think more people need to understand that when you we're in the cannabis realm, 300 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.279 there's like a communal hug that you like, you feel from the community, 301 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:30.119 whether it's through your content, or whether it's through networking event, or 302 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.279 whether it's just through smoking with somebody, you know what I mean, there's 303 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:40.279 a connection. And I think, like like Nelson Mandel said that sports brings 304 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:44.400 men and women together like nothing else. I think weed is also included in 305 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:48.400 that. Yeah, I think there's a lot like it's like a universal thing. 306 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:51.680 I say the same thing about music, right because it's something that even 307 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.279 if you don't understand it, you can understand it just by being surrounded by 308 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.160 It's something that's like just in us, like it's just a feeling, right 309 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:03.039 Yeah, and this music are artistic expression. I think that I do agree, 310 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:07.519 and I think cannabis is one of those things that especially now the educations 311 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:10.200 out there or not education, though the information is out there, it's like 312 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.960 we know cannabis is around for years, thousands of thousands of years all around 313 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:18.640 the globe, you know so, and only just recently this little fraction of 314 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.960 what is it almost one hundred years now where it's been like illegal like and 315 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.400 looked at is like the worst thing ever. So dude wild honestly had a 316 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.960 quick question, is it medical or illegal out there by you? Okay, 317 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.039 So we're in Virginia, So as you can see behind me, we're illegally 318 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:38.799 allowed to have four plants, which I have back here. You can have 319 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:41.720 as much as you want in your house. When you go out of your 320 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.680 house, you're allowed to have an ounce on you at any time. If 321 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.279 you have more than an ounce on you in your cart, you can get 322 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.799 a fine. Same thing with smoking in public, Like if you smoke down 323 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.559 the street and the cops saw you, they give you a twenty five dollars 324 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.519 ticket. It's the same equivalent as a parking ticket. But you can still 325 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.519 get ticketed for it. So it's it's like a really gray area. You 326 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:07.559 can't sell it, but you can give it for free, and you can 327 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.559 also sell You can sell seeds, but you can't sell weed. They call 328 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.640 it donation out here. Yeah, that's strictly in our laws. There's no 329 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:22.359 donations or gifting allowed. Here, we have gifting. That's what we're allowed 330 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:25.319 to do. You can just give anyone totally enough you can gift. So 331 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.200 like if you if you grow outdoors, you're allowed to legally grow twelve plants 332 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:32.359 here in Michigan, So I get that outdoor season, everyone's gifting. At 333 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.480 least a lot of people grow some plants. I mean, I definitely feel 334 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:37.960 like your legislation definitely has to push to get more because it's it's going four. 335 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.200 But like that, at least it's something. Man, that New Jersey 336 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.559 stuff where they can't even grow blows my mind. Yeah, that's ridiculous. 337 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:52.599 Is it four flowering plants or four plants total? So traditionally how it's written 338 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:57.160 is it's two plants and veg and two plants and flower. Now you know 339 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:02.559 I and you know I'm not gonna section off a room to do that, 340 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:04.039 you know what I mean? So I have my four plants all in one 341 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:08.440 stage. But technically that's the way. But if you go on the Virginia 342 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:12.960 cultivation page on Facebook, you're gonna see that some people just don't know how 343 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.599 to count. Yeah, all right, what you mean? And then it's 344 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:25.400 like five ten we're on Facebook they're washing. Oh yeah, you you see 345 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:32.000 some of these people's backyards. They got like huge eleven foot like monsters and 346 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:37.559 two three four. Yeah, they just how big one plant had to be. 347 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.200 They just said one plant, So you grow it outdoors, you gotta 348 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:44.000 tree. You know, there's like eight pounds off one plant and eight pounds 349 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:48.400 off another plant. Amen. That that. I like that type of interpretation 350 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:49.400 of the law because at least you're like, hey, man, I did 351 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:53.799 what you said, but you know, yield it a lot, because that's 352 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:56.720 like the kind of the loophole of like at least it makes it viable. 353 00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:59.720 I mean, yeah, sure, eight pounds would be ridiculous, but even 354 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.799 if you could grow called plants and just do that like that, at least 355 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:03.720 that does open the option. That's why I was saying, at least you 356 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.559 have something to grow. You know. I think Illinois is very similar to 357 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.039 you. I think they have five yeah. Yeah, yeah. Some states, 358 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:14.920 like I think it's Oklahoma, you can get a caregiver's license and that 359 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:18.680 allows you at x amount of plants and you just give the way the weed 360 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.279 away for free to people that actually need to, like people with like disabilities 361 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:27.480 or like like I'm granny with glacoma or or whatever. You know, we 362 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:32.160 have something similar in Michigan. Uh canaddaves a caregiver? Yeah, you're like 363 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:36.759 twelve plants per patient. Yeah, okay, yeah something like that. Yeah. 364 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:38.240 You just basically the patient can't grow. They just signed off their plants 365 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:41.759 or whatever. And what was they gonna say? Oh yeah, and then 366 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.640 gifting is free, so they they I will say, like when we hear 367 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.000 about other legislation Michigan, like, does it pretty solidly? You know? 368 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.440 So I like what we got over here. Um. I love that we're 369 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.519 in your grow right now. So I'm gonna hit you with a couple of 370 00:23:55.519 --> 00:24:00.279 grow questions here. But I see you got the d at the Great Lakes 371 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:06.599 Water or d NC banner behind you. So are you currently running uh the 372 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:11.119 Detroit Nutrient Company soil? Yeah? So I've always used Detroit Nutrient Company, 373 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:15.319 I really, I just always have liked it, um just mainly just it's 374 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.519 a really soft soil, um and it just does really well. Plus it's 375 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:23.759 a living soil, so it has a lot of your properties. So um, 376 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:27.079 it's always been really good sustainable. As you can see in the background, 377 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:33.160 we're actually running cocoa and these living soil. Um, I have outside 378 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.079 with the peppers. Um, but I out for veggies because I'm actually gonna 379 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.000 do that this year. So I'm curious you're talking about like I use, 380 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:47.240 I use the Tommies or Detroit Nutrient Companies soil like Tommy shout out Tommy. 381 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:49.359 Um, yeah, I love his stuff. But how did the peppers turn 382 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:55.079 out? Amazing? And one thing great about the living soil outdoors is you 383 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.440 really don't need to hit it with anything. Last year, I mean, 384 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.480 we did some guy green, which is usually what I would mix when I 385 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.240 do live in soil as I top of men with guy green and worm castings. 386 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.240 But outside, I mean we had some of the best peppers I mean, 387 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.720 and it lasted all the way through the season. Really good plants, 388 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.319 really robust plants, and you'll see that this year. Every year, we 389 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.920 have about fifty plants on our backdeck, all peppers because we have the nonprofits, 390 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.319 so we teach the classes, so we need the plants to take to 391 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:27.400 the classes. So because it's all hands on, So in our kitchen, 392 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:33.319 we actually have four tents and they're all pepper tents, and there's one clone 393 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.920 tent that's by my friend Crimson that's running all of this, so we have 394 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:42.079 stuff that goes indoors and outdoors. Plus we're on our we're making our own 395 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.359 barbecue sauce right now. We partnered up with one of my friends companies called 396 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.880 Always Flavored, and they make hot sauce and they won a bunch of awards 397 00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:56.359 just recently and they're making me my own Madmant hot sauce that we're coming up 398 00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.920 with together. So you can actually get that on the website and we'll be 399 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.039 growing the peppers here. It will actually be in the hot sauce and it'll 400 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:06.480 be like limited runs, so it's gonna be really cool. I have to 401 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:12.000 get some. Yeah, yeah, I'll send you guys a bottle. That's 402 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.799 cool. Man, that's awesome, Like I and you know you definitely. 403 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.960 I just love that you're also growing plants too. I just had to say 404 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.640 that, like, you know you respectively, Like you know, people we 405 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:25.640 talk about a lot of cannabis growing, but like talk about living as well, 406 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:27.319 Like a lot of the skills go back and forth. I mean, 407 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:30.839 that's how you got into gardening cannabis gardening is you would guard with the grandma 408 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.680 when you do you know, so it's like crazy, Like I love hearing 409 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.079 that though, So that's cool. Goes back and forth, you know trainstones 410 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.920 um are using floorflex uh drip featers in there or what is? Yeah? 411 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:47.000 So on the here we have our peppers on this side, we have our 412 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:52.160 cannabis on this side. It's running off of a thirty two gallon reservoir which 413 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.960 you see right here, this brute trash can. It has the pump that 414 00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.240 goes to the wall and then PBC piping that goes into the bay and then 415 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.759 it hits the octoheads. That's not the real name for you, that's what 416 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.039 I just call it. And then they go to the rings and then they 417 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.359 drip through. So they have the matrix dish on top and then this matrix 418 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.200 pad which is like this neopreme like material. And what it happened. What 419 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.160 it does is when the water hits it, it helps even out the water. 420 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.279 So it's not just pulling in one area when the drippers run um so, 421 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:27.519 but everything's running off the same feed, So the peppers and the cannabis 422 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:32.799 plants are running off the same reservoir. So it just it just loops over 423 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:38.440 to that side and it kind of it kind of back to what you were 424 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.160 saying, is a lot of this is universal. A lot of people think, 425 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.160 oh, you know, all these products are just for weed, and 426 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.559 it's like, no, it's all for the plants. It's all plants. 427 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.720 You know, when you talk about all the nutrients and stuff you're talking about, 428 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.960 you know how the plant is taking it. You know, whether it's 429 00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:59.279 like a synthetic where you know the plant takes it right away, like every 430 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.599 time here, because that we're running Athena right now when we push the button, 431 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.319 whatever is in that reservoir is also now in those plants, and that 432 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.720 plant is absorbing those nutrients right away. When you're in that living soil, 433 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.839 you water that soil, but the soil has to break down those nutrients and 434 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.839 then the plant can take it up. So there's a delay. That's why 435 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.759 when you run synthetics you can easily burn up your plants. Where living soil, 436 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.240 living soil can balance itself back out. So there's a lot of properties. 437 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.799 And when Tommy was actually here in the bro room, he did a 438 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.200 podcast with us here when he signed the banner and everything. We talked a 439 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:38.559 lot about you know the values of that and how you don't even need to 440 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.200 pH. You know, living soil will run its own pH, you know, 441 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.839 and that's some of the benefits is you know, with the system like 442 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.559 this, it's a little bit more complicated. You're you're worried about pH. 443 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.039 You got to get your ec right, you know, you've got to be 444 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.319 on numbers. With living soil. You could just water it, put some 445 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.839 worm castings in it, water it top of men, water it. You 446 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.039 know what I mean? And you're good. And if you look at my 447 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.799 older videos on YouTube, I did all live in soil and we had monsters 448 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.200 plans like ten gallons in the four by four. I have one where I 449 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.440 poked my head through and it looks like I'm in just a guard in a 450 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:18.039 weed. It's really funny. Love it. I love it. I'm all 451 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.400 about the living soil. So I was just curious a couple are you running 452 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.440 A couple of girl questions? But are you running LEDs or hps? Sorry 453 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:30.319 I was no ass out on you. Yeah, hit me with them. 454 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:34.359 So right now I'm running hlgs um. I'm sponsored by hlg um. They 455 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:38.039 actually replaced all my lights and for all my grow tents in my house, 456 00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:44.640 which is really cool. These are the Torpian diablows. Yeah, because I, 457 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.359 like I said, I had the pepper tents downstairs. So in my 458 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:51.359 kitchen I have four tents, two three by threes, a three by five, 459 00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:56.680 and then m a two by three on top of that. So I 460 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:03.279 got a lot going on. But it also lots of plans. Well, 461 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.680 my son Logan, he has as his own Google show and he does plan 462 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.200 so for he's homeschooled, and we have his own little garden. So one 463 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.839 of those tense is actually his very cool, it's very cool. Yeah, 464 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.680 And we have like rosemary men, you know, from you know, microgreens 465 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:26.319 to like herbs and spices, you know, all that jazz. That's awesome. 466 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:27.400 Man, I love it getting your hand, getting him, getting him 467 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:33.480 started young in hands dirty right there, let's get it going. Uh So, 468 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.920 like a another question for you here manon plant now, with all the 469 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.039 influencers there's so many, there's a lot of good canna cannabis influencers out there 470 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.000 in the community right now, what would you say makes you stand out or 471 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.279 makes you a little different compared to all of them? Um, for our 472 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:56.519 listeners, why would check you out? Just kidding? I do? I 473 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:03.480 think it's I think it's williness to want to educate and teach people. I 474 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.160 come from an education sign. So if you look a lot about my content, 475 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.519 it's less about the humor and the gags and the reels than it is 476 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.039 about really talking about value. And one thing too about our own podcasts, 477 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.759 which are definitely gonna have you guys on smoke Busters, is we're really talking 478 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:26.839 about the real reasons why people's smoke. And we've talked about suicide, postpromed, 479 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:32.799 depression, incests at at early age, you know, some really hardheading 480 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.799 topics. I've had people cry on my podcast. And what's really cool that 481 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.799 I learned and that experience from all these people is they're all healing and they're 482 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.880 all doing it on their own. And some of these people are really taking 483 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.960 their lives back and they're using cannabis as a way to be all pharmaceuticals to 484 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.799 be free of themselves and it really does make a change. And I think 485 00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.880 that's what you know I like to think about makes me different, is you 486 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.319 know, I'm really taking the time to understand the community, to really interview 487 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:06.160 people like I travel with a different events, like I was just a knee 488 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.160 cannon Massachusetts earlier this year, and um, you know, I'm starting to 489 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.960 work with a lot of the companies like I work with Candid Troll. You 490 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.279 know, I fly out there and I'm doing their like their website video. 491 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:20.119 So I'm working with a lot of people in different capacities. That's other than 492 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.559 just content related for a Madman plant, And that's more of the background of 493 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.920 like you know, my production company where I do that full time. And 494 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.920 it's like, Okay, how can I not only come in here as an 495 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.640 influencer, but how can I come in here and help you actually drive sales 496 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.079 or drive business or increased numbers Like last year for Petro Tools out of four 497 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:44.519 thousand people, I was their top selling affiliate for their sprayers last year. 498 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:49.319 You know what I mean out of four thousand people. Nice dude, you 499 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.079 know what I mean. I love I love your like uh, I don't 500 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.079 know if I call morals, but like aspirations because you know, our little 501 00:32:55.079 --> 00:33:00.440 our slogan is advocate, educated, inspire, like a lot of our beliefs 502 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.039 aligne you know over here in Michigan and what we're doing at my caniccast because 503 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.039 even us we started as a podcast because what Dave went through was going through 504 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.759 with seven felonies, and I honestly talking about pharmaceuticals, like that's kind of 505 00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:14.640 why I love weed is because I used to have like a problem with like 506 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.759 our drugs, like pills and stuff and all that stuff and party rave drugs 507 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.440 and all that stuff a lot. And it was like, now I just 508 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:22.480 can smoke, you know, you know, I made party here and there 509 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.640 at a music festival, you know, get a little while, have a 510 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.559 couple of drinks or whatever, but like it's like it's not me all the 511 00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.759 time. And I was able to control that with just having that canvas and 512 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.200 I don't you know, self control. And I've taught me a lot, 513 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.880 Like we talked about, you know, how it calms us down a bit, 514 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.920 right, It's taught me a lot about myself as well. It's a 515 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.400 very sacred plant, just like mushrooms and and ayahuasca and cactus and all that 516 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.119 type of stuff. Yeah. I just when you talk about that, I 517 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.920 I you know, you're preaching the choir over here, just so you know, 518 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:54.720 no, And I think that's beautiful and the same thing. You know, 519 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.559 I was a big rave person. I actually learned how to shoot video 520 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:04.279 at I used to film the DJ's until I started about fourteen years ago. 521 00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.000 But same thing with you, you know, going on those trips on mushrooms 522 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.119 or acid, you know, taking that time to really see yourself out and 523 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.559 expand your mind. You know a lot of people are like, oh, 524 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.480 you're just getting high, You're just getting stoned. But if you're if you 525 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:24.119 have the discipline and the mindset, you can I believe that you can use 526 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:31.480 these drugs in a responsible way, like LSD, psilocybin, mescaline and all 527 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:38.079 these different things in a very pharmaceutical and psychological way that can really empower somebody. 528 00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.639 You know. I don't know if you guys are familiar with ibow Gain, 529 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:47.519 but ibow Gain is a route from Africa and it's a serious psychedelic it's 530 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:54.239 called a I think it's called the sham Shamboo Garden or whatever it is. 531 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:59.599 It's in Africa and it's a retreat. This guy from America quit his corporate 532 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.679 job moved to Africa because he found Eebo Gain and it worked for him. 533 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.440 And you can go out there if you have like serious like psychological issues and 534 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:13.320 it's all sponsored and they'll give you it. And some of these people are 535 00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:19.239 like heavy methodics they take the drug, they trip an intense trip for thirty 536 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.760 six hours, and when they come out of it, their addiction is gone. 537 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:29.119 They have no craving for alcohol or meth or any of these hard drugs 538 00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:34.360 dealing with like like psychological issues, like this woman on the documentary on Discovery 539 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.920 Channel that when I was watching all this, you know, she was raped 540 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.760 and abused at a young age, and she went through it and when she 541 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:45.079 came out she felt free, and she you know, all those things that 542 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:49.440 haunted her and was holding her back, she said, they don't They're not 543 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.639 there anymore, you know what I mean. I just I just really think 544 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:58.079 that, you know, as we moved forward to this world of enlightenment and 545 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.320 further education, we should also retake a look at some of these things we 546 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:07.440 call narcotics and see what real medical properties they have. Because if you think 547 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.480 about it, marijuana is is Schedule one narcotic, right that is in the 548 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:17.559 same category as heroin math, and Schedule one means there's no medical or medical 549 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:23.920 property. States are medical, even how many states are medical. But like 550 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:28.159 cocaine, which is Scheduled two, which is actually a lesser charge, I 551 00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.079 know, you know what I mean, But Hey, it doesn't make any 552 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:35.199 sense. It doesn't make any sense. And that's one of my favorite thing 553 00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.960 about you just nail on the head man. It just cracks me up that 554 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.960 they're like, oh, it has no medicinal purposes unless you look at half 555 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:46.239 our states that are in the same country even though it's medical and it's legal. 556 00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:52.559 I mean like it needs to be rescheduled and pulled off of scheduled one, 557 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:54.119 and we just need to decriminalize the plant. Like I don't think we're 558 00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:59.480 ready for legalization, but decriminalization is like where we need to go in my 559 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.079 opinion, Like it is ridiculous that it's scheduled one, like it is not. 560 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:07.079 It's not like Heroin or math. I can tell you no, no, 561 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.960 no, oh man, I I can't agree more. I want to. 562 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.639 I want to jump into your Smoke Busters podcast. You just mentioned it, 563 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:21.519 um briefly, and so what type of guests do you have on like 564 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.360 the Smoke Busters. It sounds like it's a wide variety of just everyone wants 565 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:29.000 to talk about. It's like nothing specific, like what's some of your favorite 566 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.039 guests that you've had on? And then um, give any sneak peeks we 567 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.320 could uh learn about as well to love it. They've always trying to get 568 00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.360 the plug here. Yeah all right. So um, actually, I'm actually 569 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.599 twelve episodes in the rear right now that I gotta get out. I've just 570 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.840 been so busy I haven't had time to edit them. Um. My guests 571 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:52.079 range from I've done celebrities like Josh Cesselman when we were in Vegas together, 572 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:58.280 got a good interview with him. UM, Exotic Genetics, UM soul Fire. 573 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.360 I really talked to anybody. I talked to homegrowers. You know, 574 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:05.559 I've had a lot of my friends on my podcast. I've had people that 575 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.920 I know through the community. I will I will talk to anybody. If 576 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.639 you have a good story and you know you have good value to what you 577 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.880 want to talk about, let's talk about it. You know, I'm I'm 578 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.800 not subject to one type of person and one type of genre. My biggest 579 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.199 thing is, like what we just talked about, is that inspiration, that 580 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.519 education. If I can learn from you, if you can inspire the audience, 581 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:31.400 which you know I'm shooting this for, There's just so many ways that 582 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:37.079 to come in. So I guess my favorite person that I probably interviewed so 583 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:45.000 far, which probably Josh Keusleman from Raw because one that was yeah, cut 584 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.719 you off, okay, Yeah, And I've always used Raw. I only 585 00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.679 use Raw still to this day. Even when they tried to like black ball 586 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.639 them and all that dumb shit, I still never changed my opinion about them. 587 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.840 And one of the cool things why is that that was the first time 588 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.440 really doing the podcast was going out to Vegas. Like the whole Vegas thing 589 00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:09.079 was on a whim. I actually was trying to get connected with canatroll at 590 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.320 the time, and I knew that they would be there and they told me 591 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.280 that they had to, you know, put off our conversation until they got 592 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.320 back. So I was like, well, if I just go out there, 593 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.480 I could just meet them. So I was like, Lacy, I'm 594 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:23.760 gonna go to Vegas and she's like, no, you're not. And I 595 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.800 was like, yes, I am. And that's mad Madam by the way, 596 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.840 my wife and yeah, and she was like, no, one, 597 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.639 I totally believe in your dream. If you want to go, just go. 598 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.039 So I told my friend Paul, it was like, let's go to 599 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.800 Vegas. So we jumped on a plane. We went out there and we 600 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.239 were just walking around and there's Josh just at his booth at the Raw booth, 601 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.559 and I literally just walked up and I was like, hey, dude, 602 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.559 do you mind if we do a quick interview, And He's like absolutely 603 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:55.119 and grabbed the microphone and just gave me a really good, seven minute, 604 00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.719 fully energetic, really connected interview and just it just made me feel good because 605 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.559 it just that was the first time really putting myself out there, you know, 606 00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.480 trying to get these interviews. And during mj Biscon we did twenty two 607 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:13.880 episodes of my podcast And yeah, so you do really, because I've seen 608 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:15.559 you do different sizes, So you do like ten to fifteen minute podcasts all 609 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:21.719 the way up the full hour long podcasts. Yeah, oh yeah na yeah. 610 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:25.119 So usually when I'm oh, you can go on Spotify, YouTube, 611 00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:31.079 um, um, anywhere. The longer format is perfect. But um, 612 00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:37.920 one of the man of this last my train of thought, Um, when 613 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.360 I'm on site, That's what I was gonna say. When I'm on site 614 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.920 with these people at the conventions, they don't really have a lot of time, 615 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.400 so usually those would be like fifteen twenty minutes. When I get people 616 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.599 like you, I like to go the full run and say, you know 617 00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:53.880 how can we really talk? What can we really dive into? So yeah, 618 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.800 it does range based on where we are, how much time I have 619 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.440 with somebody. So cool man, Yeah, do you have a gas that 620 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:14.800 you would love to get on smoke as Uh, let's see here. I'd 621 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:20.280 like to get Seth Rogan or maybe even Stevo on it. Also, he 622 00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.559 is a great podcast. Yeah, a lot of people say I look and 623 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.280 sound like him, So it'd be kind of funny to see, you know, 624 00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.480 us talking together. How you can see the voice a little bit, 625 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.519 he's a little more raspy, but yeah, when I look away, I 626 00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.800 gotta like listen, Like I'm such an not even nerd, but yeah, 627 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.920 right, a little bit, a little bit. That's interesting. I never 628 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.599 thought about it like that. That's funny, that's cool, that's cool. 629 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.159 Whole life, it's always been like, oh my god, you look just 630 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.280 like Stevo. So yeah, it's been crazy. But um, also, 631 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:52.199 there's this guy named the real life Peter Griffin. Um you can follow him 632 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.800 on Instagram. He's a big influencer. He ghost a lot of these commic 633 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.400 cons. I think his wife plays Lois or it's his friend that plays Lois 634 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.079 and they go out and they do um like gigs and stuff. He's really 635 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.800 popular. But he's a big smoker and he smokes a ship ton of weed 636 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.360 and he always talks about his smoking. So I would love to talk to 637 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.599 him as Peter Griff like that. Peter Griffin loves the smoke, weed and 638 00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:22.159 he and he looks just like him. He's big, he's got the glasses, 639 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.880 he's got the voice down. Pat. I mean, you literally think 640 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.239 you're talking to him, the real life Peter Griffin. That's who I want 641 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.280 on my show. That's fantastic, man, that's fantastic. I love that. 642 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:36.480 I've never ever heard of this person, but I was like, I 643 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.559 would, Uh, I definitely want to real life Peter Griffin. You got 644 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:44.639 you gotta check him out. He is just so cool and he's just so 645 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.599 funny. I just had one thing I do. I just was, I'm 646 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.119 looking at your website and by the way, I did pull it up earlier 647 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:52.159 when we were going through it when you were talking about it, and I, 648 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.840 yeah, I really love your website. But also I just want to 649 00:42:54.840 --> 00:43:00.119 point out, like you do stickers too. Yeah, so knows that it's 650 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.960 one of my other companies. Yeah, so I own five companies right now, 651 00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.360 and one of them, two of them are three D printing, one 652 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:12.840 of them is sticker, and then the other one is video production, and 653 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.360 then I have the nonprofit. Um So, with that being said, yeah, 654 00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:20.639 we do full stickers, T shirts like I made this T shirt myself, 655 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:25.159 you know. Um So, we do full sublimation stickers, logo designs 656 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:30.280 like we just did average Joe, Average grow Joe's logo and now we're going 657 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.880 to be doing one hundred stickers for him. So sometimes people will come to 658 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.440 us for the logo and then we'll also do stickers for them as well. 659 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:43.000 Damn, I might have to create a logo. Yeah. Well the thing 660 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.280 is all ties into my production company because that's what we do for a living 661 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.639 outside of cannabis, is we work with these you know, micro businesses to 662 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.360 Fortune five hundred companies to agencies, and a lot of times they need graphic 663 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:58.079 design, they need animation, they need video production, and that's what we 664 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.679 offer. So it's really one hundred percent. As I said, we started 665 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.440 as a podcast, but now we ended up doing multimedia, like we do 666 00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.719 so much more and like I totally like, I literally it's awesome, Like 667 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.000 I totally hear you. But that's cool that you separate them. I do 668 00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.679 like that, like we we just have it all on our one umbrella. 669 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.440 But I do like how you do that, and I love that how busy 670 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:16.960 to stay man? I look at your website, It's like, what doesn't 671 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:22.679 this? What does it don't you do? Yeah? I get that question 672 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:29.800 a lot. I do you sleep? I'd tell us another question I get. 673 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.840 I usually get about three to four hours of sleep at night. Um. 674 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:36.880 Yeah, I usually stay up with about two or three in the morning, 675 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.440 and then I'll just either pass out at the computer or I'll just get 676 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:45.000 so tired I'll just go upstairs and fall asleep. Like this morning. I 677 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:49.079 was up to three am this morning, and then I got up at seven 678 00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.000 o'clock to get ready for the podcast today. So I've only had four hours 679 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:57.960 of sleep. But I'm just see. My biggest thing is two years ago, 680 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.199 I was dying a really bad car accident with my entire family. Right 681 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:05.519 we were actually on the way to Homegrown, Va to ven for mad Man 682 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.159 plant that night. They actually raised five hundred dollars from me, which was 683 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:14.280 really sweet of them, and they're a really great story. But during that 684 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:21.719 accident, if you've never almost died before you. There's a lot of emotion 685 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:28.239 with all of that, right, and I just it was a very just 686 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:35.840 unsatisfied, just very depressing, just angry emotion that I had. And mainly 687 00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:39.639 it was because everything that I'm working on, everything that I've done, it 688 00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:44.480 wasn't ever completed. So it was like almost being taken out of the race 689 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:50.239 as the projects just finally being completed and never actually seeing it come to tuition. 690 00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.000 It's like John F. Kennedy on the silver dollar. You never got 691 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.039 to see his face on the silver dollar, you know what I mean, 692 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.320 kind of like one of those things you never got to see the legacy of 693 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:02.280 yourself live on, right. And one of those things is when you have 694 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:08.119 that feeling, it changes you and it makes you want to live life differently. 695 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:13.159 One of my grandmother who passed away for my son was born. One 696 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.559 of the greatest conversations I ever had with her was about her death. I 697 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.760 asked her everything I could ask her about her dying, and it was it 698 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.000 was a big emotional conversation. But one of the things I got from it 699 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:28.000 was she was at total peace. She didn't care, she didn't wake up 700 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:31.760 tomorrow. She had made her peace. With life and God and the universe 701 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:36.639 and everything. And she was and she was, you know, just peaceful 702 00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:39.480 about it. That's how I want to be the next time I danced with 703 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.000 fate. And that's one of the reasons why I pushed myself so hard. 704 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:49.280 Is feel like I just I don't want any stones left on turn, Like 705 00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.519 if it's tomorrow, I want to be like, you know what, I 706 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.960 fucking nailed it the day before, you know, not one of these things. 707 00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:59.840 Yeah, it's not like, well what'd you do last month before you 708 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.480 Well, I sat on the couch mouth of the time and um, you 709 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.639 know, played video games. Wow, what a legacy. I want to 710 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.440 die trying to jump my motorcycle off for bridge or doing something crazy. You 711 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:13.760 know, just just just is about life. And I think that's one of 712 00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:19.239 the things about what we talk about is that education inspire is it's about living. 713 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.480 Your plants are living, why aren't you? And when you live and 714 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:29.039 you're not out there putting yourself out there trying to get better, you're wasting 715 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:36.400 time and time you may not be here tomorrow. Yeah, preach. I 716 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.000 love that attitude that you got. I couldn't said it. I can't even 717 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.400 say our accident. So I don't want to say it like that, but 718 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.039 I just love the attitude video. Well. I mean, I have had 719 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.280 a friend actually I won't say his name, but it actually came close to 720 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:52.400 dying recently. He fell down some steps, cracked a scope and almost died. 721 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:53.880 Oh man. And it's like, yeah, you know, and he 722 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:59.639 turned his whole life around, like just like doesn't do all the horrible things 723 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.480 he has and like used to do, and you know, your whole perspective 724 00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:06.840 change. And so that's the only time I've ever really met someone that went 725 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.719 through something truly traumatic like that. You know. I've had my own issues 726 00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.880 like with like drugs and getting into it, like you know, problems and 727 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.559 fall asleep probably some places I shouldn't have and some things like that. And 728 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.840 it's like but like nothing I couldn't. I've never seen change like that, 729 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.920 Like I have almost died like that, you don't appreciate life. You appreciate 730 00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.159 life in a whole different way. And it just hearing your story is just 731 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:35.079 like, um, now I get it. I get why you're so like 732 00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.800 and you got so much to say and do, so I really, you 733 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:40.079 know, I love it, man, I love it. Well. I 734 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.079 appreciate that, and the same thing to your friend. You know, it 735 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:49.559 wakes you up, it rass you realize that it's kind of one of those 736 00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:54.000 things where you just like with this was attractor trailer hid it veered over to 737 00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:59.519 a lane and it was in front of us, and um like it just 738 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.119 like didn't even seem like that, Like it was like the truck didn't even 739 00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.719 know that the Honda was there, and it just went right over right. 740 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.519 And We're driving and I'm expecting, like, you know, an accident or 741 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.800 something happened. I just don't see anything. I don't see any smoke, 742 00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:15.880 any anything. Well, what happened was when the truck clip the car, 743 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.880 it put the car in front of the semi. So the Semi is pushing 744 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:24.039 the truck at seventy miles an hour or the Honda seventy miles an hour down 745 00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.039 the road. The Honda's sideways right, Well, those Honda wheels are still 746 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.320 spinning. When that Honda got loose, it's shot out. And when it 747 00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.880 spun around three lanes of traffic. And I was on the right left hand 748 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.320 side of ninety five and it literally as I was driving, it was spinning 749 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.000 and it had been so fast. It's one of those things where everybody's like, 750 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.440 oh, you always have time, there's always something you can do. 751 00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:52.880 It just proves that things can happen so fast in the blink of an eye. 752 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.840 I saw the car coming into my lane. I saw the air bag 753 00:49:54.960 --> 00:50:00.239 and that was it. And I came to I was looking around and I 754 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.679 was like, why can't I see anything. I looked down and I'm like, 755 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.360 that's the windshield. We're upside down. The car's upside down. We 756 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.079 need to get out of the car right now. And it was kind of 757 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:15.119 one of those things when you're in that accident and I can shave the pictures 758 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:21.239 later, when you spin like we spun and actually jumped over the guardrail. 759 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.039 The guardrail wasn't even damaged. We were on the opposite side of the guardwood 760 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:30.679 guard rail in the woodline, and when you spin, there's no sense of 761 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.199 rotation. It just felt like we were pile driving the ground. And I've 762 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.159 been a lot of car accidents before, and there's two There's two movements. 763 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:43.239 There's you hitting the car and then the car's inertia to where the car comes 764 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.840 to a stop. This it felt like somebody was just on a pile driver 765 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:50.800 for like three it felt like three minutes. We were just hitting this ground. 766 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.679 It was just the craziest thing ever. And they get the truck driver 767 00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:59.679 never even stopped. They found him two miles down the side of the road, 768 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.320 and both drivers claim did not know of anything happening, but their dashcam 769 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.679 got it all. So really they just took off. I mean, at 770 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.039 least that's what it sounds like. Yeah, I hear allegedly you can't really 771 00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:14.840 like prove it, but like, yeah, it's a little fishy with it, 772 00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:16.960 but I mean, honestly, like there is a fear of panics, 773 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.280 so they probably just dipped. And like, I'm so happy you're here, 774 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.000 man, because when you hear a story like that is it's like that's crazy. 775 00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:30.159 My thing too, is accidents happened right, right, So it's what 776 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:36.760 you do after that really shows your character and you're intent, right, So 777 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.239 if you were to cause a horrible accident, even though you're in the wrong, 778 00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.239 Like if I was a truck driver, I would have stopped my truck. 779 00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.639 I would have gone out, and I would have started running towards those 780 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:47.159 cars and trying to be of some assistance, you know what I mean. 781 00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:52.440 That's just who I am. But for you to run away and then try 782 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.480 to lie about your story, you know what I mean? Come on now, 783 00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:01.480 like how or even worse, he really wasn't paying attention like I mean 784 00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:05.519 you're you're driving you mean like that kid, I mean you said he was 785 00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.880 a truck driver, right, should be paying attention? Yeah, yeah, 786 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:14.320 yeah, you literally have a CDL like like pay attention. Yeah, train 787 00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:20.280 liquid latex. Jeez, I don't even know what Just straight chemicals. Yeah, 788 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.559 just nothing, no big deal, just straight chemicals. Jeez. I 789 00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:29.960 want to jump into some future stuff with you, memn playing. Um so 790 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.800 you were talking about Biscon. What what events are you attending this year? 791 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.760 Are you gonna be at MJ Biscon? Uh in November December this year? 792 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:43.639 Again? Oh yeah big time? Yeah? Um so the events that meant 793 00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.719 to already this year? I was at nie Can which was in Massachusetts. 794 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:52.199 It's earlier this year. Um going in um August? I think it is 795 00:52:52.199 --> 00:53:00.679 is Midwest Canican. I believe, UM in Detroit. Right, Well, 796 00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:05.639 there's a couple of Chicago and there was Detroit last year. Maybe they're combining 797 00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:07.920 them. I didn't actually see. I think one of them is in October, 798 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:12.000 and one of them is in August. I can't Detroit's October this year, 799 00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.800 You're out. They did push it been It's been in August or July 800 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:16.480 the last That's why when he said August, I was like, okay, 801 00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:20.119 So I was planning to come out. Yeah, I was planning to come 802 00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.599 out to the one in October right before m J Biscon, and then I'm 803 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:27.360 trying to hit it other But the problem is with my company, We've gotten 804 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:31.800 so busy this season. It's really knocked out my tribal plans because you know, 805 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:36.679 obviously my production company is what pays the bills, so that comes first. 806 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:38.440 Bad man plant. You know it's getting up there, but we're not 807 00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:42.880 there yet. Um but um, we get it, you know what I 808 00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.360 mean. So it knocked out a couple of my trips. Like I was 809 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.599 planning to be an Albuquerque, but it's actually my son's birthday next week, 810 00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.360 so I decided to stay here and be with him, which I thought was 811 00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.800 more important. Man, my family comes first, rightfully, if you are 812 00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:00.800 coming out to I'm not I'm Jay uh Canicon Detroit and iber dude hit us 813 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:02.679 up. We'll be down there. We'll be down there. Yeah, we 814 00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:06.639 could both live in the area. Yeah, oh you already know it. 815 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:12.280 Check out the Definitely, we'll definitely have to do an in person a little 816 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.079 prompt to you, and then maybe we can schedule one at the hotel room 817 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.519 after because that's what I'm trying to doing um m J Biscon this year is 818 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:22.480 try to set up time slots after the event that I can actually get some 819 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.800 really good one on one even if it's just a couple interviews, you know, 820 00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:29.880 like a good hour long at you know, MJA Biscon and talk about 821 00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:34.760 it. I like to. Yeah, we love doing Arcanic MJ Biscon type 822 00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.280 of interviews too. We do them like right at the booth. We definitely 823 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.440 saw you round. We're just like hey, hey hey, that's why we 824 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.679 were like we have to connect with him. He's like doing a similar aligned, 825 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.000 similar like values and shit like for out there in Virginia and like I 826 00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:49.719 don't know not about Virginia. So it was still cool to hear and learn 827 00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.320 so much about just like what you do and things you have to go through. 828 00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:54.880 Dude, I know, right, it's wild Man's Wow. It's always 829 00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:58.960 different in every state, you know it is, And that's what's so crazy 830 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:00.639 about cannabis. Some state the legal, some aren't, some grow, some 831 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:06.639 can. These places different I mean, like what I guess to the people 832 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:07.960 out there who don't know Virginia, like what do you see as the future 833 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.480 of cannabis in Virginia? And I guess you know, also just in general, 834 00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.320 but like just Virginia specifically, is there anything you see coming? And 835 00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:20.159 then also what you think about cannabis where you think it's going. Um, 836 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.960 As far as like the actual like laws and stuff, I don't follow them 837 00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:28.719 too closely. I will say that they just took away the right to do 838 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:34.880 CBD. One of my friend's shop actually has to move because they can't use 839 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.199 chis see. I guess I don't know that. Like I said, I 840 00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:42.360 don't know the whole details, but pretty much my friend's shop had to close 841 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.599 down because the laws changed here in Virginia and they're no longer to make CBD 842 00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:50.840 I guess, or whatever it is with THHC in it. So that kind 843 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.599 of like sucked. I guess what i'd like to see, I'd like I 844 00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:58.559 guess I'll talk about what I would like to see versus because I really don't 845 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:00.360 want to talk about what I don't know, because, like I said, 846 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.320 I'm not a politician here. I like that I hear. I was just 847 00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:06.480 saying, it is all your opinion what I see about you see them going, 848 00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.000 you know, I think, yeah, I think that if we can 849 00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:15.480 continue on our projectory like we are with the community getting inspired, getting educated, 850 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.599 getting more people to smoke try cannabis for the first time, lower the 851 00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.440 stigma, I think it could be around forever. And I think it's something 852 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:27.360 that could maybe one day be like here's what I thought. Right, So 853 00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.400 they're all worries, worried about how to make money off a weed, right, 854 00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.440 And I think a lot of it has to do with well, how 855 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:37.239 would they control making money if everybody could just do this in their backyard. 856 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.519 It's unlike alcohol, where you need all this equipment and usually the home beer 857 00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:45.599 that people make sucks. Um. You know, this is something that you 858 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:50.719 can be really good at with the right strain, with very little knowledge or 859 00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:54.880 effort or whatever. And I think that it's a lot harder to control than 860 00:56:54.920 --> 00:57:00.599 it is with alcohol, and it's a way more process. But my idea 861 00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:06.320 is this is this is where you get people back. You offer them attacks 862 00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.159 four, Like you know how like in certain states, like on the like 863 00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:12.760 the soda cans. If you turn it in, it's like five cents a 864 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.320 can. Right. Well, since marijuana is one of the strongest fibers as 865 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:22.480 oils, can make textiles, clothing, houses, a lot of different things 866 00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:28.840 that we lack as far as material and natural resources. Everybody that harvests will 867 00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:34.079 donate their stems and left over stocks. They'll get a five they'll get you 868 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.760 know, five cents per maybe like pound or whatever it is, and the 869 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:43.079 government or you know, the facilities would take that, they would strip down 870 00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.159 to the stocks, and then they would actually make items that they could reuse, 871 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:51.880 like a toothbrush out of the stocks of a marijuana stem that they were 872 00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:57.079 putting together. That away exactly, you're gonna throw it away anyways, but 873 00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:00.920 they could repurpose that. They could take those single files and do something exactly. 874 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:06.639 And now you're paying that people, you know, a percentage that you 875 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.639 are those recycled cans, and now you're able to offer more recycled material that's 876 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:15.760 going to help sustain the earth, it's natural resources, and give marijuana even 877 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:22.440 more greater purpose other than just medical. And honestly, I like that too, 878 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:25.599 because it's like, you know, um, unfortunately, we're definitely motivated 879 00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:29.679 by cash here in America. Like no, unfortunately, just it is what 880 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:32.079 it is like. But like even the Aldi carts it's one quarter, We're 881 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.239 like, oh, I'll put it back, like you know what I mean, 882 00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.079 Like like it's really crazy. It's like, but you're one hundred percent. 883 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:39.719 You do some type of rebate program with it, you're more likely to 884 00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:45.159 get people to just be like ah, why not you know yeah, and 885 00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.840 then maybe like do a thing where you know, hey, if in Virginia 886 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:51.639 you want to have more than four plants, you pay five hundred dollars a 887 00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.719 year and you can have eight plants. There's five hundred dollars per personal system 888 00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:08.960 there. Man, my lights, I just went off on thing. Sorry 889 00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:13.719 about that. No, You're good. No, I saw that. I 890 00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.400 was like, I've lost my power so many times now, so I'm always 891 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.119 like, oh God, I hope you didn't just lose his power. Was 892 00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.480 everything else is on, you know, we're still getting signal, but um, 893 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:25.199 but no, what I was just saying was, um, what was 894 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:30.559 I just asking? I just asked, uml oh man, I lost track 895 00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:36.840 of it. We were just talking about talking about recycling materials and how you 896 00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:42.800 know they recycled those materials the stocks. Yeah, we talked about, um, 897 00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.400 the joke about Aldi in the quarter and oh the rebate program. Yeah, 898 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:50.760 we're talking about the rebate program. Oh man for hour I was going 899 00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.360 with two minutes after Yeah, yeah, yeah, any other question yeah, 900 00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.440 yeah, One thing I do want to say though, Actually I did look 901 00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:02.719 this up and there yeah Cherry Freeder crossed with blow Pops back crossed. Damn. 902 01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:05.559 I just want to like I did point. I just want to I 903 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:07.039 did look it up way earlier and I forgot to mention that. So, 904 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:12.480 UM, I wanna we got we got one funny question for you men men 905 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.639 plant, but before we get to that, yeah, usually we close with 906 01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.880 that. But before we get to that, you want to give any shout 907 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.400 outs or anything we missed during this interview that you would like to mention, 908 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:28.360 like yours. As far as shout out, I'd just like to think, 909 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:31.519 you know, all my sponsors, all my affiliates, um, the people 910 01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:37.119 that signed up for the affiliate program, the people that support me. UM. 911 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:38.920 You know, all this is our gaining, you know, UM, 912 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:42.920 this all comes from the heart, This all comes from the mind, body, 913 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:46.719 and soul and have people who actually like my content, watch it, 914 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:51.280 engage it. You know. Right now we're up to two hundred and eighty 915 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:55.360 three hours a month on YouTube of people watching Madman Plant, which I think 916 01:00:55.679 --> 01:01:00.559 it's incredible because I really don't think I'm that interesting. I have a person 917 01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:02.599 I'm skinning. I think I'm a very cool person. But um, I 918 01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:07.320 just think it's cool because I never thought that, you know, I would 919 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:13.199 be somebody that had like a platform that people want to actually interact with and 920 01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:16.639 you know, like be able to entertain people in the sense I always wanted 921 01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:21.159 to. But usually I'm on the opposite side of the camera in life. 922 01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:25.559 And to be able to throw myself go through my head man, like I 923 01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:30.360 feel like we're two p's in a pod. Probably are. I just do 924 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.000 I do music and media, but like same difference like a year ago. 925 01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.639 Yeah. Yeah, I didn't mean to cut you off, but I'm like, 926 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:42.880 is this go you hear my thoughts? Yeah, But it's just a 927 01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:47.679 creative mindset that allows you to just take yourself away and to just be unique. 928 01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:52.760 And you know a lot of this. You know, I'm not I'm 929 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:54.280 not a rich person. You know, I'm not a person that's made of 930 01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:57.800 money. I don't come from money. So a lot of this, you 931 01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.239 know, through the sponsors, through people helping out, you know, have 932 01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:05.960 also made this possible. You know, a lot of this entire setup was 933 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:09.719 donated by Hydroculture. Hydroculture helped put all of this in, you know, 934 01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:14.559 just to help support the show. You know, HLG with the lights, 935 01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:19.079 you know, Aero Mixer with the mixers, Athena, you know, CX, 936 01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:23.519 all these companies that believe in us individuals, people that are out there 937 01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:28.599 just trying to get inspired with gardening, and you give us a chance and 938 01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:31.400 you allow us to do whatever we want with that. Some people bomb out, 939 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:35.639 but some people really take that serious, like me and you guys. 940 01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:39.760 And when you're able to get on that same mindset, the same wavelength, 941 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:44.199 like you were just talking about you and me being on, you can do 942 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:50.199 so many things. It's incredible. But it takes that discipline, It takes 943 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:54.719 that consistency, that preparation, the detail, those little things that add up 944 01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:59.360 that make you just a little bit better than the other guy that they were 945 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:04.199 just watching. Yeah, man, you know who, I forget what who 946 01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:06.920 you quoted? Was it Elon Musk? It just you know, I don't 947 01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:08.480 necessarily, you know, I'm not all elon everything, but like he did 948 01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:13.679 say something along the lines of like, if you know you put it in 949 01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:16.960 one hundred hours every week, you're working two and a half times as much 950 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:21.400 as the other opponent. So it's like, no matter what, you will 951 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.239 always be ahead of them, like and it's like just putting in that extra 952 01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:29.000 grind like really does show in your content. So I respect man. Yeah, 953 01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.519 another thing too, I would like to um get out there is don't 954 01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:36.039 get distracted with the noise. A lot of people are gonna say what they 955 01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:40.039 want. I get a lot of negative comments based on my mask and just 956 01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:44.559 everything that I do. I mean, you know, people may say when 957 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.800 I talk about certain devices or certain things like that, don't don't pay attention 958 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:52.880 to that. The biggest thing, and this is something I do to myself 959 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:58.480 and that I realize, is you will hurt yourself and hold yourself more back. 960 01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:00.559 It's kind of like in a race, if you're running down that line 961 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:03.639 and you're looking at the guy running next to you, who do you think 962 01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:08.440 is gonna start going slower? You are because you're looking at him. You're 963 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.840 not looking ahead, right, So when you look at other people, you 964 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:15.599 start comparing oranges to apples. You can get really, really salty. And 965 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:19.239 I found myself in that position, and then I got to remember that it's 966 01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:23.440 just not my time yet. You know, these people are here before me, 967 01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:27.440 so whatever they have going on, they you know, that's totally cool. 968 01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:29.960 But where am I going to be? Am I going to be the 969 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:31.440 person that comes up next? Or am I the person that is never going 970 01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.760 to come up? And then if you give up, you will never come 971 01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:39.559 up. And that's the biggest thing that I see in this community is everybody 972 01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:43.360 comes in hot and heavy, but then they fade away because they don't get 973 01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:45.880 what they want. They didn't think it was as easy as they thought. 974 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:49.679 They get discouraged, they don't like somebody. Somebody says something, and if 975 01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:53.599 you don't have the wrong lines, whatever it is, they're in it for 976 01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.679 the wrong reasons. If you're in it for a belief system or truly believe 977 01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.559 in something, or if you see that vision right like you know, not 978 01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:01.679 the whole away say oh, manifestation, well, manifestation, you know what 979 01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.360 I'm saying. Like sometimes it's like, okay, I want this, I'm 980 01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:08.360 gonna I'm gonna do this, and it's a goal after goal after goal, 981 01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:10.960 and sometimes you look back you're like, holy shit, I didn't even think 982 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:13.559 I could do all this, Like you know what I mean. So now 983 01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:16.960 you're you're always you know, so I agree? Oh yeah, man, 984 01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:19.760 hell yeah, you want to ask your funny question. Man, it's your 985 01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:21.480 question. I want you to ask it, all right, all right, 986 01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:26.320 yeah, So we ask everybody that joins us any special gas that comes on. 987 01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.639 It's a funny question we've been doing since like the beginning of our podcast. 988 01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:32.880 Yeah, um, I think episode one. Yeah, so um. 989 01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:39.320 Now, imagine you smoke joints, bowls. What's your favorite. I'm assuming 990 01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:43.760 papers, So I like papers. I love my bonds. I really much 991 01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.519 love anything. As long as it's weed and we smoke, it's going into 992 01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:49.559 my lungs. We're good and me and you, Yeah, we have to 993 01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:54.840 smoke. So imagine imagine you're just grinding up your weed. You tap it 994 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.159 out, tap the grinder, and all of a sudden, the ganza genie 995 01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.519 pops out and he goes you can you can grant you one wish to change 996 01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:06.039 anything in the cannabis industry or anything to do with cannabis. Do it yet 997 01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:12.920 to do with cannabis. What would you wish for and to be able to 998 01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:16.199 get in the minds of people that have the native stigma about weed and to 999 01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:20.480 be able to show them that there's other things that are fully legal that are 1000 01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:25.480 way more dangerous. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean 1001 01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:29.639 maybe McDonald's all the time. That's not I mean again, teach the st 1002 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:32.400 he's throwing in all these things. But it's bad for gambling, like you 1003 01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:34.800 can online do it, like hey, by the way of gambling, coddiction 1004 01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:38.679 is a problem. Join here. No, I'm just kidding with those little 1005 01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:43.199 senses. But they know it's bad. They know it's bad. It's like 1006 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:45.440 Dave Ramsey when he's always like, you need to save your money. Oh, 1007 01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.679 sign up from my program today. You can find out how to save 1008 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:53.159 money. That's so funny. I listened to his podcast here, I've been 1009 01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:55.559 listening to his podcast. He says it's all the time. It's so funny 1010 01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:59.880 you brought that up. He's more for the nine to five or when you 1011 01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:03.280 talk about like business owner and mindset. He's the wrong person for that. 1012 01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:06.760 He's like the guy that's trying to convince you to leave your nine to five 1013 01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.960 job because it's easier just sign up for his program. Yeah. No, 1014 01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:15.960 he's just trying to He's trying to gauge you on that that hope and that 1015 01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.559 that want of entrepreneurism, which a lot of people strive for, and like 1016 01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:21.320 you said, it's really a lot harder. You know, even like when 1017 01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:24.679 I pulled up your lower third, I had cannibs entrepreneur, but I just 1018 01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:27.800 got rid of cannabs because like this guy's an entrepreneur in all sorts, you 1019 01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.000 know, because I was like, you know, it just takes a certain 1020 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.159 mindset, right, and it's like it takes a lot of push. So 1021 01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:39.880 and you're just gonna understand that failure is going to be the biggest thing that 1022 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:44.360 you're going to deal with and anything that you do. Right, So as 1023 01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:48.719 long as you're comfortable with failing, you don't get so discouraged because then you 1024 01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:53.079 just think, Okay, well it didn't work out. Like when we look 1025 01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.639 back in history, like you know, Colonel Sanders, right, he applied 1026 01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:00.880 a hundred and fifteen times for a business loan, got denied one hundred and 1027 01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:06.320 fourteen times. If he had quit at ninety four, Popeyes would never have 1028 01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:13.280 a competitor because Popeyes came first. Honda when they built their first facility, 1029 01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:18.720 Hiroshima came giant bomb came blew up their brand new million dollars facility back in 1030 01:08:18.760 --> 01:08:21.960 the forties. Right, you know what Honda did, They took all that 1031 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:27.800 metal, melted it down, started making cars during that time. For a 1032 01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:31.920 long period in Japan, the Honda was the only car on the road. 1033 01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:40.359 Coca Cola doctor Pebbleton quit his job as a pharmacist to create his carbonated drink. 1034 01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:45.600 Left a good paying job to sell eight bottles a day, maybe at 1035 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.920 ten cents a bottle. Now with the yeah, but he saw it. 1036 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:53.439 You know all these people who just said saw it, you know, And 1037 01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:56.560 that's the thing. You got to have that vision. And I think especially 1038 01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.359 because and I again to tie this back to the future of cannabis, I 1039 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:01.239 truly think that a lot of people have this same vision. If it's it's 1040 01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:05.119 not that bad, it's gonna be decriminalized. And I truly think collectively we 1041 01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:09.199 will get there because it's I mean, like what we were just saying, 1042 01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:13.079 how many medical states are there, We're almost halfway over half you talk about 1043 01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:15.439 that, just could that schedule one drug thing. If we get to twenty 1044 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:19.319 five or twenty six states where they're all legal, it's their medical it's gonna 1045 01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:23.600 be like, um no, you're talking legal because we're all legal. Excuse 1046 01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:25.479 me. And then that's what I meant. I said, Yeah, but 1047 01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:28.359 just it's get think it's it's like we're almost are halfway legal. Yeah. 1048 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.319 Law doesn't even make it doesn't even make sense anymore in this SI situation. 1049 01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:34.600 No, not at all, not at all. Yeah. Man, Well, 1050 01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:38.520 great interview. Man, I really appreciate you. Thank thanks for coming 1051 01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:44.399 on. Like they definitely check it out. Check out his website Matman Plant 1052 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:49.319 Everywhere rights where everyone can find you mat Man Plant pretty much. Yeah, 1053 01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:54.880 matmanplan dot Com is gonna have all the information. Also, we started online 1054 01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.720 classes, so if anybody's out there all over the world, if you want 1055 01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:00.800 to take one of my clining passes that I do in person at all these 1056 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:05.239 growth stores, you can actually take it online. It's about an hour and 1057 01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:10.279 twenty minute class. It's really good. I've made the presentation myself. To 1058 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:13.119 me, about like eight hours to make the presentation. But what's really cool 1059 01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:16.600 is it's all my photos from all my different grows that are actually in the 1060 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:21.439 presentation, so only two images and the entire presentation are not mine. And 1061 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.239 what's great is, you know, I've been able to break it down to 1062 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:30.640 a really good detail level of in deafness and it's really fun. A lot 1063 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.319 of people who take the course really enjoy it. So if you're out there 1064 01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:36.520 and you want to take one of my courses, they're going to start being 1065 01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:41.840 online and we have our first course online coming up on May twenty eighth. 1066 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:45.239 It's a Sunday from twelve to one pm. Awesome, Yeah tappened. I 1067 01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:47.600 mean I saw all your events, listen your upsite, your website's great. 1068 01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:50.720 By the way, I loved it. We pulled up all myself. Oh 1069 01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:55.159 really, well awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome. We know how hard 1070 01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.359 that stuff can be hard too. You know, we got two people on 1071 01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.479 the team here. It's still tough. There, well, many kind of 1072 01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:02.199 scenes. But yeah, anyways, I just we could do this for days. 1073 01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:04.359 So I can't wait to get on your podcast. Do some smoke. 1074 01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:08.920 Can dig in deep. We can dig in deep, and I love that, 1075 01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:13.039 you know today, That's what I'm saying, that we can dig in 1076 01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:14.840 deep. You know, you can ask us about our stuff, but we 1077 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:16.359 got to dig in mad Men Plan today and it's been really great. Shout 1078 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.359 out to everyone in Michigan. If you're ever you're looking for good content, 1079 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:23.960 check it out. Also, thank you for letting us. I believe you 1080 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.479 told us before. We're your first interview, right, Oh yeah, yeah, 1081 01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:30.399 no the Mochan exclusive. Yes, it's funny that you said vice because 1082 01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:31.479 I literally said that, like I was like, he's gonna have the mask 1083 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:34.119 on. It's gonna feel like another advice. But we literally just did our 1084 01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:38.279 first mask interview like last week or two weeks ago, so I was like, 1085 01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:40.520 oh, this is gonna be our second one ever doing this for our 1086 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:43.680 first official podcast. We just did a live stream with them. Um, 1087 01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:48.840 but this is his mask. It was just literally just like a cover over 1088 01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:53.399 his eyes and then a hat that was down here. I think it was 1089 01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:58.039 DNC hat too. Yeah, everyone's talking Tommy like so and you just kind 1090 01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.960 of like you're talking mushrooms and so. But yeah, he in the mushrooms 1091 01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:04.039 and growing mushrooms. And now again we're talking a whole other thing, sacred 1092 01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:08.359 plants, Like we gotta free these plants. Man, they're not They're doing 1093 01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:12.119 more good than harm. I understand, legalization could be you know, a 1094 01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:15.119 little scared for some people because people don't can't, don't know how it's you 1095 01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:16.680 know, some people aren't ready for mushrooms. You don't like if I could 1096 01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:20.760 buy them at seven to eleven. But if people really learn and treat these 1097 01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:26.079 plants with respect, there's so much to gain from them personally. Yeah, 1098 01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:29.520 no, you put that perfect roovie. Well, thank you, Thank you, 1099 01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:31.640 mem and Plant. Thank you for the exclusive interview. We appreciate it, 1100 01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.319 Hey, we appreciate that. Um, we will be linking up at 1101 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:40.319 some of these events coming up in the fall, which we can wait because 1102 01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:43.079 we're going in the summer. So no, I'm ready for the summer. 1103 01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:46.039 But I'm looking forward to linking up in Canacon and then at MJ biscon I 1104 01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.960 dude, so we'll be in contact. Thank you again for coming on. 1105 01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:53.119 Thank you for letting our listeners learn all about you. This was phenomenal. 1106 01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:57.319 Thanks for the opportunity. Thank you. Oh yeah, Michigan, go check 1107 01:12:57.359 --> 01:13:00.560 them out. And as always been, we're here to advocate d K and 1108 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:06.399 inspired. So next time, y'all. MHM