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I was concerned because I initially I
searched sky and it didn't come up because

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our search thing on this next gen
sucks so bad. And then I thought,

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maybe we just labeled it lunatics in
the system, so it's going to

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have to check the alternative. Yeah, the's fun, I'm telling you,

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man. We get around, we
get around election time, and all of

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a sudden, everybody is so filled
with rage, which to some extent I

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get, right, although arguably basically
the entirety of the time that whoever you

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like isn't in charge. That is
our natural reaction these days to you know,

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go out and scream and stuff.
But people do it differently. Some

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people just vent their rage in a
more traditional sense, you know, kind

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of a one on one thing,
like a couple guys getting together or some

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women meeting up or whatever, and
they're just like, you know, they're

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talking about life and stuff, how
hard it is to do stuff, how

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expensive stuff is, and then they
and then they vent there. But it's

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more of a general thing, right
Whereas you know, you look at a

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bunch of folks who literally gather for
the purpose of versus it being the natural

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progression of conversation, right, you
know, inherently you run into somebody at

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the grocery store and you don't want
to have a negative conversation. But that

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person you look in their cart and
they have this thing that you just bought

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that you can't believe was twice what
it costs three years, and then boom,

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there's your conversation. I kind of
like the organizational nature of this because

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it's easier to identify the lunatics.
But I can't imagine signing up for something

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where you like inherently know all right, well we're gonna go and it's a

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support group of sorts, but it's
just us wiling out like crazy people.

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I guess I don't know, maybe
you know some people. I've heard people

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literally say that this is uh the
sky Screamer or now and this is not

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new. I just want to point
this out. But like these these stories

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about how in this case, women
women gather, women gather to let out

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the pent up rage. Do you
remember and she do you remember in She

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Hulk, like the first episode ross
how far did you get? Did you

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watch even one episode? Or were
you smart enough to go? Okay,

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but you're aware of the part where
She's like, I have to practice being

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happy every day while avoiding my own
rape and murder. Right, because that

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thing went on the on the Twitter. You saw that statement, right,

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Oh, I am dude. I'm
sorry. Do you realize how much better

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your life was just prior to having
to listen to that insanity? All right?

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Well, that was a big thing
that It was a clip that I

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saw over and over and over.
And I point this out because it's like,

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I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was that moment where,

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even if you were giving it a
good faith effort, you're like,

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dimb out, So what do we
have here. We have a bunch of

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women getting together and screaming, and
they're filled with rage, and they're filled

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with rage because the patriarchy. They're
filled with rage for you know, the

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orange cheetoh leini whatever, all gathered
together and they're like, well, we

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came up with this new way to
deal with it, and this is always

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how it goes. I'm like,
oh, okay, well what's the new

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way? And by the way,
I just want to be abundantly clear,

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I'm not down on people gathering.
And if you find it cathartic, if

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you find it healthy for you,
emotionally for your family. Like people gather,

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people gather with affinity groups, like
minded sports fans, people gather with

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folks we in things that are stress
relieving. Uh, you know, they

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go to the gym and they and
they get, you know, into that

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culture. So and you know,
or if you find running cathartic and you

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want to, uh, you want
to get up with the that's not my

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beef. That being said, I'm
sitting there and I'm watching this thing on

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USA today and here's I'm going to
let you hear what it sounds like.

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But so it's women just screaming in
a circle. It's women with giant sticks

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beating the ground in a circle.
It's women punching inanimate objects. Not so

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much in a circle that I have
to hear about all the grievances. And

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I'm like, I'm aware that this
stuff exists, but i feel like the

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only reason we're doing this story is
so you can be like and look at

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look at what it's doing to women
around you. They're losing their damn minds

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because of this guy. And I'm
like, well, some of them,

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yeah, you know, like the
sky screamers. The after Trump's inauguration and

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I know, and I know what
you're saying. You're saying, well,

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k C, I saw that video
that was not all women, and I

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would say that's your opinion. But
anyway, back to this, so here

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we go, Here we go.
Uh, here's the women with the sticks

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and the punch and stuff and the
screaming. I hear some similarity, a

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little more organized. Yeah, and
this isn't tybo right, They're not all

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doing things standing behind Uh? Was
he? Was it? Billy Blank?

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No? He wasn't Tybou? What
was he? I don't know one of

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them. Billy I remember Billy Blank's
was everywhere. It's like it's pretty loosey

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goosey man. You know what else? It reminds me of the tree people

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in the woods of Ashville, right
or this out there pledging their love to

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trees and bawling their eyes out.
All right, I just can't this are

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sticks banging on stuff. Let me
let me say this, because this is

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this is groundbreaking stuff. You're doing
golf. Okay, that's golf. You're

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doing golf. Can I for just
about yelling incoherently in many instances for no

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discernible reason or no reason that should
have elevated to the point where you're screaming

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bloody murder, obscenities. Okay,
checkbox golf, punching inanimate objects that you

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know you shouldn't punch, like a
ball washer. None of that stuff's made

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out of styrofoam. But at least
you have an excuse. You're gonna shank

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your drives the rest of the day, just like you've been shanking them all

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damn day. But now you Yeah, I hurt my hand on the on

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the thing there because I'm dumb,
and then banging a stick into the ground

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or they don't do it in the
video. I like to occasionally throw them

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in bodies of water. It's not
rational, but we already have this thing.

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Come down to the club. I
know that you're you're, you're you

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know, you're screaming in your circle
against the patriarchy and whatnot. Come down

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to the golf club. Tell you
what. Run into the pro shop,

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get you one of those cute little
outfits, bring me a sandwich and a

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beer on your way out, and
I'll show you what I mean. Don't

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talk too much on the cart,
please. It is a it's a nice

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day. I just want to be
with nature. Does that help, like

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to throw that invite so that we
can because that's what you're doing. The

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only the only it's I thought of
like when I used to be a kid

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and rage quit a video game,
but then there's the stick part. So

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I had to go with golf,
the adult version of that, where you

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rage quit every day and then you're
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go buy this other thing that I
don't need, will be good to go.

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So there you go. Found that
cathartic this one. Oh, look

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at that. Look at that.
That brought me relaxation to highlight the insanity.

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All right, six sixteen, we
got Kamala Harris is Rambo or something

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I don't know. I don't know, Michael Cohen on the stage yesterday.

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And you know today's a thing.
You think, well, it's Tuesday,

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that's true. I guess we get
paid on the fifteenth. It's the day

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before payday. That is true as
well. But it's also one other thing.

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It's an election day. So I'll
explain how we're handling that. Those

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of you have listened to the show, you're in the know, but we'll

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give you details next here on the
CaCO Day Radio program, CaCO Day radio

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program phone number eight eight eight nine
three four seven an eight seven four.

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Ah, well, you know what
this would be a good lead in because

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it is runoff election day, the
amount of all right, let me ask

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the question in the most trouble making
way possible. Any of you off,

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any of you, any sworn law
enforcement officer listening to the show, and

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I suspect there's one or two of
you, Why on God's green earth would

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you allow yourself to be stood there
in a photo op with Josh Stein or

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Wral show up for their police Week. Well, we're gonna light our tower

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blue. When they spend three hundred
and sixty four other day, I guess

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we'll call it fifty one because they're
doing its national Police Week, fifty one

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weeks of year, weeks out of
the year, hating you and if it's

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there, so oh I don't hate
you, well, then hating you with

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their actions. And again this is
not middle of the road. People who

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I think can look at at things
and have questions whether it is the the

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the incident involving the dude from the
Navy right where he went up to the

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door with a gun in hand,
and then people say, ah, they

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said police but also, I don't
know if you know this. Sometimes people

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rob you they say police and look, there's a lot going on there,

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and those are all legitimate discussions.
But wil every time there's something they literally

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will platform activists. Remember we did
the story of the thirteen year old.

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This is even this is not even
an officer involved shooting, but this was

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the same activists, right, this
thirteen year old who was found shot to

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death in that apartment near North Hills, And you really quickly got the impression

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that rather than just doing a straight
up story, they had this very same

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activist whose organization is predicated on what
were clearly justified law enforcement shootings where a

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Raleigh police officer was presented with a
situation. It's on video. It's clear

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as hell. It's not even a
question of oh do they know they were

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a cop and they drew down on
police. And when you platform those activists

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for everything that you do, and
they come in and they're dishonest, Like

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in the case of the girl,
thirteen year old girl, while it didn't

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involve police, the target became school
and to some extent, police was school

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resource officers. Well, she had
been suspended and it was involved in a

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court case, so she couldn't go
to school. So the natural thing was

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she goes to a party at two
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party place with gangsters, and she
ends up dead. It's obviously the

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schools fault, and I'm sorry it
rings hollow with your National Police Week garbage.

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That ship is sailed, And I
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enforcement, in the same way that
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why you would give them five seconds
of your time is beyond me.

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Do you think Josh Stein or do
you think Roy Cooper comes on this show?

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You think that happens a lot?
Uh Ross? Would you go check

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the master file? We have a
master guest list. Just if you could

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just give me a quick count an
estimate on the number of Roy Cooper appearances.

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Let me check that out. Put
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no, no, no, not
this year, not this no, I

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mean like the the twelve thirteen years. Yeah, that's that's a twelve year

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average. Zero, the twelve year
average, So it averaged less like every

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one, less than ever. Never
happened. It's never happened. So what

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are you doing? Why am I
seeing Josh Stein, I'm gonna walk around

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with these officers. He's probably walking
up and asking him for directions. They

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got a camera guy at the distance. Hey, I'm gonna go talk to

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these cops and they're gonna be polite
because they kind of have to be.

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And then we'll just say that,
you know, they were like, oh

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my gosh, we love you,
or at least that's the impression that's out

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there. By the way. I'm
not accusing him of doing that, although

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after the crap he pulled with Jim
O'Neil and that's slapped down and line them

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and there's still lying about the rape
kits. That's the whole thing. But

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it's the stuff that baffles me.
Why would you do it? Why go

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anywhere near these people that fifty one
weeks out of your hate you, and

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if it wasn't an election year,
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on the politician side. I don't
understand it, but I do understand that

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today is a runoff election and we're
gonna handle this as we normally do.

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Very simple. You're listening to the
sound of my voice. You're in a

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runoff election. Today's the day,
and let me tell you your buck will

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never go further. Judging by the
early voting numbers, it is far far

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more valuable right now. If you're
in a runoff election, everybody you turn

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out counts so much more because the
numbers are so little. So if you

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are in a runoff election and we
got state wide stuff, we got congressional

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stuff, there's not a ton statewide, which is you know, partly to

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do with that, but you got
state auditor. On the Republican side,

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you got obviously lieutenant governor. Speaking
of Jim O'Neill and how Weatherman, I've

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not look Jim O'Neill. Jim O'Neill. He's the one who got done dirty

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by Josh Josh. You boy there
Silver spoon Stein, and and I like

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to see what O'Neill's doing with the
kid who was punching teachers. That story

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made me happy, Casey, If
officers don't interact with folks who already are

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not giving them a fair shake,
how will the relationship improve by those folks

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not being an elected office anymore?
And the reaction of the public, that's

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how In the same way that folks
get thrown out of office. If people

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think that the police are out of
control, or at least you can convince

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them of that, and we're not. We're not one hundred percent either way.

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Here on the show, we take
a much more measured approach. Look

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at the situation, that is policy
or practice, or a situation justified.

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Can have I looked at it through
multiple lenses? Have I asked myself in

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that situation where the standard for most
things comes down to reasonableness? Have I

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looked at it through that lens?
And how a human might react in that

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situation, both by the officer as
well as the individual. Case in point,

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somebody banging on your door in the
middle of the night. You don't

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know what the hell's up. They
yell police, but you can't visually verify

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that. What do you do?
I saw somebody write an article They said

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the only logical thing to do,
and I feel that this is an exaggeration

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because I've literally been presented with this
situation, so I'm not talking out my

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behind here. He said. What
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home or any of the rest,
now, what you should do is run

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out the back door. If it's
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that's what cops do, right cover
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hands are visible and all that,
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it's not, maybe the bad guy
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is that reasonable? I guess it's
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I told you I had. I
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wife was at Dennis, so her
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building and that he had taken the
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really nice apartment that's just kind of
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and his wife, you know,
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building, the kids would be out
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They actually just retired, and then
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then they wanted to travel. They
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is up in Minnesota that really nice, and then they were going to go

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live up there and then they would
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you want to rent it. I
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know you're looking for a play it
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to do some stuff himself. He
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jacked up some with the phone security
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first nights I'm in there, it
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it kind of fancy with the tech
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was it was too fancy, and
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the night. I hear and you
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level door in the back and then
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up the stairs, you're in the
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the door is open. Middle of
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up those stairs. I can kind
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into because my bedroom faces off the
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am already holding something, and rather
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I'm trying to hear what they're saying. And I can hear the moment

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immediately when it realizes and dawns on
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entering an egress within a commercial building. But they figured out the top of

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the stairs and I hear him yell
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what a crazy small world it is. The officer, one of the officers

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was a friend of mine from Tailgate's
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or twice, and at that point
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all right, I'm back here,
and I yelled it's me to the guys.

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That was helpful, and I understand
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but that was a situation we had
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the wrong. No, they got
an alarm call the commercial building that had

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only recently been given its occupancy license, and that's what it was showing within

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their equipment. Like, those scenarios
out there exist and they're in this gray

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area, right, What should I
have done? What I have been within

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my right to come out and start
yelling at him and perhaps a provoked reaction

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before either of us could identify what's
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so yeah, this is why I
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and I go on these long diatribes. But it just I don't understand it.

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I don't understand embracing people who are
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can we do this the best way, but rather with using you as a

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political pawn anytime it feels right,
anytime you know that Chay or the lawyer

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Crump shows up right sitting there and
standing on a stage with that dude who

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hates police and also he loves money
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police because that's the source of a
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I off the soapbox there, that's
my annual diet tribe. All right.

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So I mentioned it is a runoff
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a governor, auditor, some congressional
stuff. So if you are an elected

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officially you want to be on the
show. This is how we do it.

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This is equality. This is equal
opportunity. This is not equity the

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I just want to be clear.
This is equality meaning if you meet those

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those those requirements, which are pretty
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which he knows how to do,
then we'll give you some aretime. And

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that's an open invitation to anyone who's
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or otherwise that way, we don't
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All right, so that's on the
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seven eight seventy four. No call
and try to schedule a time. We

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don't do that. When you're ready, call the show and we'll fit you

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in just as soon as possible.
All right. Few do other things going

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on other than just election and me
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Oh, let's see, you know, let me go a little uplifting.

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I I don't want to sound like
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that guy. Most of the viral
senior pranks that I've seen nowadays suck,

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okay, and I understand that some
of that's born out of this what schools

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should become, which is not wholly
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But that being said, that is
not very funny. Back in my

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day, we did good stuff.
Man. You ever moved an entire petting

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zoo onto a dude's yard in the
middle of the night, so the next

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morning in his community which is not
gated but is still an hoa community,

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his neighbors or stinky in the small
petting zoo on his yard, on his

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lawn the entire commute and he ends
up getting a notice from his ho.

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That's a prank. Actually ask yourself, and his wife helped. I don't

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know if you ever knew like dose. Now that's hilarious. Imagine you walked

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out this morning and you don't live
on a farm and there are lamas goats.

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What did we have? So?
Oh, he had an ostri or

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not an ostrochen em you. That'd
be amazing, especially if you're sticking your

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butt up tight community you live in. That's a good senior prank man.

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Or some of it's just downright that's
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YouTube effect this though, I love
this students in Illinois going viral after for

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the senior prank. They decided to
hire a professional musician to follow their principle

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around. All right, it'd be
kind of nice. Can you imagine how

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much how much less stressful your day
would be if a soft sonata kind of

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you know, just throughout the day, keep you going. A little background

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music maybe uh maybe a little if
you're into jazz, maybe get a little

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soft saxophone following you around. That'd
be kind of nice, except they went

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in a slightly different direction. Here's
what's amazing about that. Not that it

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would be hard to pull off,
but I stopped started thinking that'd be funny.

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But then I realized that most of
the people I know, if I

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if I hired Ross, I don't
like your attitude. I'm hiring a professional

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bagpiper to follow you around. Haha, I'll keep you. Would be the

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greatest thing in the world. See
how that doesn't work in this situation.

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It would be like I was rowdy
piper walk in everywhere, like with the

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intro music and then and the bagpipers
behind him. I would I would,

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you know, I don't like to
go out or go places. No to

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go places, Oh my god,
I would enjoy I would go everywhere.

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Be like yes, wife's like I
need something at Target. You're like,

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I'm absolutely, in fact, give
me a few things. I'm in there

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as long as possible. You're gonna
go roddy piper. I see. I

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kind of thought you could do some
brave heart stuff or you just mix it

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up right, got your guy there. You're like, I'm gonna now,

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I'm gonna paint all weird blue streaks
on me and scream about freedom. Yeah.

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I don't know if if you know
this, but I like watching old

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wrestling clips. I've noticed on Twitter
some a big fan. But I enjoyed

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just watching old rowdy rowdy Roddy Piper, you know, intro clips, not

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even like the match, but just
him walking to the ring with the bagpipers.

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It's what do you call it,
like bagpipes or Irish auto tune.

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It's it's the greatest. So,
you know, one man's prank because another

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man's like, you shouldn't have right, that'd be amazing, maybe that's what.

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Yeah, because I don't want to
do it to prank. Would that

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be the day you'd show up in
person to one of our meetings? That's

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what I'm saying. I would go
everywhere, absolutely everywhere. It'd be the

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greatest thing ever. Because I don't
know how meetings work where you work,

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but we can now you can call
in, you get teams in, or

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you can show up. And Ross
and I tend to be the remote viewers

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because morning people. But no,
you're there, man, No, And

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even with the because we have our
Tuesday meeting with Trevor after the show every

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every week, so and it's like
a recap of like you will you know,

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goals and that kind of crap.
Yeah, and we always we have

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to FaceTime in right, and I
always turn my camera off, and I

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also tend to mute my mute my
phone because I'm multitasking and I'm doing multiple

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things in here during the meeting,
and you don't want to hear all that

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crap. However, However, I
would show up in person in this office

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with the bagpipes playing, and it
would be one of the greatest moments of

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my life. He'd be like,
all right, so let's go ahead and

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talk about what we're doing with the
uh we're doing a software tanks for let's

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talk about the transition to the new
sound. I'm sorry, can you stop?

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And you're just walking through with the
head swagger? Yeah? Got a

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kilt. That's amazing. Oh man, Well that's the thing. I have

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a kilt right here. Of course
you do, right. He doesn't have

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a kilt in like in the attic
somewhere. He doesn't have a kilt in

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the basement in a box. It's
in his go drawer. Next time I

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ordered bagpipes, like a decade ago, or like twelve thirteen, years ago,

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as you do, the bagpipes came
with a kilt. Now, I

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gave away the bagpipes as a gift, but I kept because I'm amazing how

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I still have the kilt though,
So I'm ready to go. I'm ready

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to give it away as a gift. Or did you give it like when

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I bought Lincoln drums a complete gift? Oh? Okay, all right,

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somebody who actually wanted it in their
life, as Lincoln have any interest in

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the bagpipes, do we know?
I don't think so. Are you sure?

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I think the bagpipes would probably annoy
him, so I would have to

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I would have to do it around, you know, before and after school.

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I thought, I'm just I'm guessing
the pitch because of the autism,

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when maybe or maybe he'd enjoy you
never know, you know what, I

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just figured out how you could end
up on Joey Swoll's account, all right,

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going going to the gym as you
do, and going through your workout,

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and uh, and then's just bagpipes. Man. I I enjoyed that

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guy's account until I realized that he
openly uses steroids. And I'm like,

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no, he's called Joey Swollen.
I know, but like he's supposed to

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be like a health fitness account,
and I understand. Listen, I go

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to the gym a lot, and
you have these people that will be in

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the comments. They're like, yeah, but the brow us the steroids,

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and people are like no, but
just still gonna put in the work.

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And obviously you never go to the
gym and you don't. Yeah dude,

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but you you you do it.
You can you can have the gains in

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half the time because you don't need
So it's completely different. I didn't mean

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to start all that. I just
met the part where he's like, look

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at this a hole at the gym. Those are valid, but like when

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it comes to like health and fitness, I'm like, well, sorry,

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dude, Like I'm not putting steroids
in my body. So it's we're on

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a completely different page here. What
if I put them every morning in your

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coffee without you noticing? I think
we would probably notice after a while.

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But because that's the best part.
There's no recovery day, so you can

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just you know, jack yourself up
like like Ivan Drago and go to the

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gym every single day and you don't
have to worry about that. Forty eight

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hours of recovery between muscle groups.
So yeah, okay, but you know,

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also maybe you thought you got imbued
with superpowers. I don't know.

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I just know that there's really no
penalty for doing that. You know.

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I no, I don't like.
I don't believe you, Casey, and

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I can prove it now. Unfortunately, I think that there might be something,

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some other reason why this person will
face no penalties. And by the

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way, it wasn't steroids, but
that there's a wild story out of Arizona

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we got to talk about. And
yes, speaking of people roid raging,

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we'll get to that. Kamala Harris
audio. So it is six fifty.

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four. You're you're on the old
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chat time with the audience. Those
politicians can call in. We'll get you

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lined up, but right now we'll
take a break. Hang out, kc

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O Day Radio program phone number eight
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four. So are you guys gonna
move? Are you guys gonna have to

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downsize? Maybe live in a motel? I'm assuming Ross that were you among

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those who got absolutely pilloried and bodied
by the Game Stop tweet yesterday. I

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don't know if you saw any of
this insanity, the meme stock guys,

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the game Stop, the AMC's remember
when that was all a buzz. Did

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you have anybody write you and tell
you that you should be doing that when

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all that was going on with AMC
and whatnot? Absolutely not. Oh my

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gosh. One of our listeners was
in on because I commented on a tweet

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and this dude wrote me diatribes of
emails. And it wasn't even nasty or

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anything. It was just like,
I don't know, dude, because like

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it sounds, it sounds boiler roomy
but not. And I understand the aspect

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00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.720
of, you know, stock price
manipulation, and you don't have to convince

407
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.400
me that people in the upper echelons
of power in this country use it to

408
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.880
their advantage each and every day.
And I get that frustration. I don't

409
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:48.160
care who it is, whether it's
you know, all of these Let's see

410
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.759
the Senator this is very bipartisan,
Nancy Pelosi and then the Senator as a

411
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:59.720
Tuberville from Alabama, both buying this
random, super random company that's up ninety

412
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:04.839
percent in about five seconds and it
just has to do with literal appearances before

413
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:10.160
committees that they're either on or participatory
in some way that stuff. Look,

414
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:19.079
I get it, But when a
dude named Roaring Kitty can tweet once yesterday

415
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:28.440
and crater people stop loss or stop
positions or excuse me, short positions,

416
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:36.119
things stop bust short positions on these
and then that is what four Chan and

417
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.720
Reddit turns into. It's kind of
amazing to watch about. When you talk

418
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.920
about the amount of risk that was
associated there. I'm not gonna tell you

419
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.839
how to invest. You do your
thing. But if if one tweet from

420
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:53.519
something called Roaring Kitty, who is
the guy who was literally organizing the game

421
00:32:53.559 --> 00:33:00.720
stop and then went dark for three
years, all of a sudden causes the

422
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:05.640
whole thing to spike with his mere
presence, that was a that was a

423
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.839
very volatile investment you found yourself in. I'm surprised you were still in that

424
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:15.240
position. How far did you short
this thing that you were still exposed like

425
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:22.759
that. As of Monday, the
price of game Stop has risen ninety nine

426
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.799
percent over the last five days,
and you're thinking, well, that's great.

427
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:34.480
If you own game Stop in five
days, your investment's worth twice.

428
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.960
Yes, that is true, but
you have to understand that the meany part

429
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:45.400
of this was people shorting it.
They were shorting it, and then you

430
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.039
had the up cycle where people were
buying, and then he got down into

431
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.279
it where people shorted and I thought
that they had moved their positions out,

432
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.319
but apparently they just got savage.
But it's a little complex to get into

433
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.599
on the radio, and frankly,
I'm probably not the one to be explaining

434
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.920
it to you because I'm not an
an advisor, but that whole thing looks

435
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:07.240
suss as the kids saved, but
there was money there if you timed it

436
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.039
write. And now a bunch of
people who were sitting there on their haunches

437
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:16.760
had a due tweet and it just
ruined their portfolio. Man, that is

438
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.679
wild to me. All right,
let's get into the Kamala Harris thing I

439
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:25.360
was attempting to explain. So she's
there, and again if it was born

440
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:30.119
just by hey, you gotta work
hard, right, and not a grievance,

441
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.320
but just the idea, Hey,
you got to go in there and

442
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:36.559
and bust your butt. And I
understand that some of that is very quaint,

443
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.519
and especially in the way that modern
day businesses interact with employees and have

444
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:46.239
this expectation of loyalty while providing none
of their own. I get that frustration,

445
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.320
and that is a paradigm shift.
It is a paradigm shift on both

446
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:55.920
sides. And it's the new reality. That being said, this same advice

447
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:01.920
will still generally benefit you, even
with with blockades you run into like nepotism

448
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:08.599
and you know, whatever it is. But the only people I see being

449
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:17.960
openly racist in things like hiring positions
or inclusion at university admissions in the modern

450
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:25.679
society is not cis white dudes,
not publicly, at least they get accused

451
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.360
of. Well, they want they
didn't hire because the name sounded too urban,

452
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:36.800
or you know, whatever it is. Maybe or maybe they didn't hire

453
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.039
because you were a disaster compared to
the other folks there, and maybe they

454
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:43.920
decide that meritocracy is the way to
go. That's not to say that people

455
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.599
who that's in a minority group couldn't
be the recipient of a meritocracy, a

456
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.000
merit based hiring, But when they're
not, you can't screen that it.

457
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.760
You know, obviously it's racism.
Well, simultaneously sitting there and going we're

458
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.880
going to have five graduations and you
have to pick an affinity group, and

459
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.039
then we'll have a leftovers one.
Literally, it'll be presented almost as the

460
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.880
leftovers category. Oh you didn't fit
in one of our five you know,

461
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:17.079
Black, Indigenous, Latino, LGBT, Oh you didn't fit into one of

462
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:24.639
those, just a leftover or we're
hiring, but we're only going to hire

463
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:30.079
you know, it's a This is
all about diversity. Irish need not apply.

464
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.840
I mean they don't write it out. They write it out. They

465
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:39.880
just don't use Irish anymore. They've
expanded that. So listening to that through

466
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:45.400
the lens of how Kamala Harris normally
operates and say this, it makes it

467
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.239
that much more absurd. We have
to know that sometimes people will open the

468
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:53.679
door for you and leave it open. Sometimes they won't, and then you

469
00:36:53.760 --> 00:37:00.559
need to kick that more down.
The laugh is the creepiest part. You're

470
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:06.159
gonna talk about door kicking. Try
to sound a little tough while you're doing

471
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:13.079
it. That being said, those
are not your only options. Yes,

472
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:19.559
sometimes people will I guess open the
door for you, absolutely, and you

473
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.239
can. You can. You can
assign that to that's how that they integrate

474
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.360
people within their business. You can
say they're only doing it because somebody is

475
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:31.480
their nephew. Whatever. I understand
that. And then the second then we

476
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:38.639
sometimes you got to kick the door
down sometimes, Yeah, but nine nine

477
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:45.480
percent of the time it will be
neither of those things. And it is

478
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:52.000
how you respond in that ninety nine
percent where we see the fundamental change to

479
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:58.159
today, because most of the time
people are not gonna hold the door open

480
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:04.159
for you. Little there'll be little
pockets of it, but you got to

481
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.840
put in the work. You got
to put in the work, and opportunities

482
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.559
may arise. Rostering your radio career, would you say that there was service

483
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.639
somebody there holding the door open for
you the whole way, or did you

484
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:21.480
have to get in there and bust
your butt and be unique and stand out.

485
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:22.719
Yeah, I mean it took a
lot of work. It's a lot

486
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.559
of work, a lot of perseverance
too. Like I can't tell you how

487
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:29.760
many tapes they sent out when I
was still on, like seventeen eighteen,

488
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:31.400
Like sending tapes out, tapes,
Man, oh my god, be back.

489
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.800
Then you would send it all,
you know, paper resume and you'd

490
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.719
put your your demo tape on a
cassette tape and I probably do hundreds,

491
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:42.760
hundreds nothing everywhere, and I don't
care where it was. Remember I got

492
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.840
a call back from where was it
somewhere in Idaho once Boise. It was

493
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.039
super excited, first first callback I
ever got. Oh, no, people

494
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.920
usually are before they go to Boise
anyway. But I was saying like,

495
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:54.400
at that age, it didn't matter
wherever the job was, I was going

496
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.599
to move there right like, I'll
be there tomorrow. And that's what I

497
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:00.239
ended up doing. Yeah, got
a call, you know, I remember

498
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.400
the call I came back from.
I was working at the World of Science

499
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.639
before I cut my finger open and
bled a lot of fossils, right,

500
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:07.800
And I remember I came home my
mom. My mom was like, hey,

501
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.840
got a message on the on the
on the you know, the answer

502
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.320
machine checked it out. It was
a guy in a triple white trailer in

503
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:20.119
war Head City, North Carolina.
It doesn't really narrow it down. Who

504
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.400
was like, that's where the radio
station was out of and he was like,

505
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:23.280
hey, I got your demo tape. Let's talk. And I was

506
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:29.079
super excited. I literally was there
working. I'd probably less than a month

507
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:31.880
later, drove down in my car
had five hundred bucks to my name,

508
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.599
lived on the floor of my apartment. That guy's name was j. T.

509
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.159
Bosch. He's now our boss in
Greensboro. But I remember that call.

510
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:43.599
Dude to this a lunatic with the
kiss tattoo, right, yes,

511
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:49.079
and the Boston tattoo. So I
literally got that voicemail and I remember,

512
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.960
I remember listening to it and I
started to cry. I was like,

513
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.000
oh my god, somebody's give me
a chance. Yeah, but I can't

514
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:58.079
tell you how many demo tapes I
sent out before I got that call back.

515
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.760
And then you got there and you
were just fat, happy and really

516
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.920
didn't try, right, but no, once again, a little bit more

517
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.159
effort. Okay, all right,
sorry, I'm not like this is I'm

518
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:12.559
not accusing you just by yourself.
I'm just that was it, right,

519
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:14.639
somebody opened the door for you,
and then you were good to go.

520
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.880
There's a lot of rejection involved,
right, There's a lot of rejection.

521
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.280
I wouldn't know, of course,
right, yeah, yeah, no,

522
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:28.800
it's awful, absolutely, absolutely,
especially when you consider when you're in that

523
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:34.000
competitive environment, you're going to run
into good people like obviously JT. You

524
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.920
guys are friends to this day,
even though like now you're paid to be

525
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:43.760
but but still that's not a knock
on him. But also there's they'll cut

526
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:46.320
your heart out people around you,
especially as you move into larger markets.

527
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.840
People all get it. The people
are not as friendly. Man, That's

528
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:52.960
why I hated Atlanta. Man couldn't
say, my gosh, Atlanta is a

529
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.039
Minneapolis the same way, just cut
your too. I remember walking down the

530
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.079
hallway and being like every other radio
station had worked at it was like a

531
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.559
family environment, like you'd go to
each other's houses and you'd hang out and

532
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:06.920
you'd go out and have drinks and
stuff. And this was like the first

533
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:08.840
time I went to it. I
was like twenty four to twenty five working

534
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:13.519
in Atlanta, and it was like
a huge deal. It was my lifeline,

535
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.039
my dream, right, I want
to work in a major market.

536
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.719
And I remember walking in the hallways
and it was like there was competition between

537
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.239
daparts at the same radio station,
which was super weird to me. Yes,

538
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:27.119
like super weird, Like we had
a morning we had a morning show

539
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:31.320
on another station where they were so
internally competitive that it was it was ruining

540
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.800
the show. Yeah, super weird, and where it had been nice,

541
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:40.320
but then Basically what had happened is
they had they had like a strong lead,

542
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:44.320
but they didn't have like a defining
guy, you know, like Seacrest

543
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:49.440
is defining guy, trying some other
shows examples where it's ensemble shows, but

544
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.599
there's one dude. It was much
softer there, and they were moving one

545
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.719
of the guy's day parts to kind
of give him feature an afternoon he was,

546
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:04.800
and there there was this natural progression
and it completely unraveled everybody. Right,

547
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:08.039
they could have worked together, continued
to work together, but the internal

548
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:14.599
competition between three of the four was
so like I have to be the name

549
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.639
plate even though it's the show was
I'm not gonna tell you the name of

550
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:22.840
the show, but it didn't have
anybody's name in it. And that that

551
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:29.199
nastiness literally destroyed a couple of radio
careers. So everything's a balance and you

552
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.639
got to work all this stuff out. And yes, sometimes you kick doors

553
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:36.440
ninety nine percent of the time,
though what you do is you figure out

554
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.000
a way to open that door on
your own, or you go around the

555
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:43.480
back, or you find a window. You start a relationship with somebody inside

556
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.079
the place. Well I was going
in the yes, the but well,

557
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:52.559
think about everything. You have a
generation of crybabies where they don't understand,

558
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:54.719
they can't accept no for an answer. Well, and then what they do

559
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.679
is they resort to door kicks.
Yeah, they end up banging on the

560
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.079
door and banging in the house and
have tantrums. And that's consistently. We

561
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.840
have these videos that we play on
the show, right, examples of this

562
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.320
uh huh out there, and it's
just like, all right, so this

563
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:14.199
thing isn't exactly how I want.
Uh, we're gonna and then you know,

564
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.480
insert, well, we're gonna glue
ourselves to something. We're gonna we're

565
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:21.039
gonna scream like idiots, like a
crazy like you've ever gotten a thing with

566
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:25.719
a kind of crazy x Right,
everything was normal and now it's an hour

567
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:30.960
later and the neighbors lights are coming
on because they're standing outside you're now locked

568
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.880
door, screaming that if they can't
have you, they'll do in the X

569
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.559
y Z. It's like, you're
a freaking lunatic. And I understand the

570
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:44.599
the the emotion there. But when
we take that emotion, and not to

571
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.400
justify behavior like that, but when
we take that emotion and we go,

572
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.599
you know what this is, this
is a good skill for getting ahead in

573
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:54.400
a business environment. You're a lunatic. What was the story? Was a

574
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:59.159
Google? Right? Google is a
great example, remember the good Remember the

575
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:07.320
last Google store that we did.
I think you do. Google employees decided,

576
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.119
Hey, I'm gonna wear a mask
like I'm robbing a stage coach,

577
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:15.960
like a little you know, bandana
over my face, and then I'm going

578
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.679
to stroll into this office surrounded by
management that has known me for years,

579
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:25.159
and I'm going to disrupt their ability
to accomplish anything and uh, you know,

580
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:32.239
make demands and even Google the wokest
piece of garbage companies out there.

581
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:36.920
I was doing something, searching something
the other day and they again manipulated.

582
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:39.360
All I had to do was go
to another search engine. I'm telling you

583
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:45.280
the divide on that stuff, especially
if it's negative finding old videos like I

584
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.519
remember that time Kamalis said this,
it's difficult on Google and easy on others.

585
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.960
I'll let you do the math on
why. But that's not good men,

586
00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:02.039
that's not good mentor And it's sure
as hell isn't funny in the way

587
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:08.920
that she laughed and people go,
well, you're you're reading too deeply into

588
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:13.960
this. And on most cases I
would agree because it's kind of a motivational

589
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:15.519
thing. Oh, I don't mean
to actually kick the door in, but

590
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:22.599
unfortunately we're in this environment where what
she says is the reality of things.

591
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.039
I didn't get the job I'm going
to need to do. You remember the

592
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:31.000
first time you heard a story of
a hiring person, you know, go,

593
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.440
hey, what's the craziest thing happening
on? Like a read a thread

594
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:38.280
or whatever, and they're like,
so about once a month, somebody's parent

595
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:42.800
will call me and scream at me, and I'm like, I'm sorry,

596
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.719
what, yeah, yeah, yeah, So we're you know, I hire

597
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:52.000
people because I'm a hiring manager and
they applied and they were woefully underqualified or

598
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:57.360
or didn't have experience or whatever it
was, even though some of those experience

599
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.960
and education required, like you guys
are out of your day mind in corporate

600
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.119
America. But if you can find
the people whatever, I don't know that

601
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.400
you're getting the best in the brightest
but that would be the extent of my

602
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.719
analysis. But imagine you just went
through and hired somebody, you know,

603
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.239
which is basically a bunch of twenty
something's mid twenties, maybe even late twenties,

604
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:22.920
somebody didn't get the gig, their
mother calls screaming at you. That's

605
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.360
where we are now, and that's
a version of kick the door down.

606
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.280
That is dooming you. Because now
if I'm not hiring manager, I'm telling

607
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.039
all the other hiring managers over golf, hey, wait to hear what this

608
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.719
lunatics mom did. Think about that
and understand why this is horrible advice,

609
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.280
and we'll be back. I'll say
this in the in the same way where

610
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.400
we all have to get into a
big debate. Right, Elon Musk bought

611
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.239
Twitter, so I'm gonna spend the
next six months of my life defining everything

612
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.519
that I do through the lens of
hating him. And Twitter's done right,

613
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.599
and it's like, all right,
you made your prediction, let's watch it

614
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.039
play out. And then well it
wasn't. But I don't think it's just

615
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:02.679
a Twitter problem. I have to
admit I have. I had not spend

616
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:10.840
any significant amount of time on Facebook
and quite some time. And it's because

617
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:16.960
here's what Facebook is still good for. It is like it's like an old

618
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:23.000
phone. Chances are you have connections
to people that you may not have connections

619
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.320
to anywhere else, and you can
still accomplish that communication on Facebook just due

620
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:35.079
to the longevity of it, but
as a source of news and information every

621
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.599
other damn thing that's on there,
And people go, well, this is

622
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.320
the algorithm. I we're beyond that, because the algorithm may be the algorithm.

623
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.159
But when you incorporate AI, which
I don't know if you've seen the

624
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:53.039
chat GTP version for promotional videos,
the tutor the kid who was getting tutored.

625
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:57.360
Now, whether this stuff works as
clearly as it works in the videos

626
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:02.400
is only a matter of time.
It's almost indiscernible. I'll tell you what

627
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:09.400
was wild is the real time translation. I mean that's like the whole translation

628
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:17.000
apps are in even the best ones
are incredibly not good in a lot of

629
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:25.840
circumstances. As somebody who has been
working on developing another language. Now for

630
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.320
some you know, some time,
it's not a fast process. For me,

631
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.360
they say, the older you get, the harder it is. But

632
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.960
one of the worst things, not
the worst things. It is helpful.

633
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:43.480
But one of the things that I
struggle with is and people have learned another

634
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:52.159
language will tell you about this hump
is how just because something says that it

635
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.199
translates to the other thing doesn't mean
that it does. And that's before you

636
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:01.440
get into the call the cultural nuances. Because I don't even know how to

637
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.440
how to explain this. It'll start
to dawn on you and any of you

638
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.119
who are bilingual, you know,
And I again, I'm just I'm I'm

639
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:13.719
not very good, but I'm at
the point where I'm recognizing this and you

640
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.760
don't recognize it. I think a
lot of people look at the Spanish language

641
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:22.119
and when it translates stuff, the
words don't seem to be in the right

642
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:29.800
order, like ross if you have
if you're sick and your mom made you

643
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.559
soup, what kind of soup would
it be? Not chicken noodle soup?

644
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.280
Chicken noodle soup, all right?
Or chicken you know, you get some

645
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.920
sort of chicken soup, chicken broth
whatever like that. Okay, So the

646
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:45.000
order in which we put those words
chicken soup, you wouldn't say that in

647
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.960
Spanish, very simple. You'd say
soap with the poiloil, which is,

648
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.320
by the way, a word.
I still butcher because the two l's kill

649
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.639
me. But you know, and
so when you direct translate it, yeah,

650
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.639
not only do you have the order
wrong, but it's not wrong because

651
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.320
that's just how it works in a
different language. But there's also so the

652
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:07.920
nuances there. I messed up.
I messed up one time in front of

653
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:13.639
a bartender at a beach bar in
in uh In, Costa Rica when I

654
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:17.800
was This was years ago, I
was staying at this resort and and I

655
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:25.119
thought I was so smart learning the
name of h there's two big screwups of

656
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:32.639
learning the name of a raccoon,
which it's just because it's like, it's

657
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:38.000
not you know, I'm just learning
very simple words. And I remembered the

658
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:43.639
name from like the Rosetta Stone and
like ah, and I in my head

659
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:50.400
I knew what it was, but
I said a slightly different word, which

660
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.719
meant something god awful. And I
got to tell you, it's like that,

661
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.800
you know, it's like the record
skip scene in a movie. Man,

662
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:05.440
Like everything just crashed to a halt. And I point this out because

663
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:12.559
the real time translation that they were
doing in that debt was amazing. And

664
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.239
it's really hard. Anyone who's traveled
has traveled with like, whether it's Google

665
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.800
Translator or others, you realize that
stuff ain't full of proof, and it

666
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:22.719
requires you to critically think about what
it is the person's intending to say to

667
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:29.519
you. The the demo that I
saw for Spanish and then the one I

668
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.199
saw for Italian, where the two
that I saw they were really good,

669
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.920
and you get a couple of people
with earpieces in they could have a relatively

670
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:44.960
normal conversation without all the big gaps. That's what is going to be social

671
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.039
media in a lot of cases,
and I think Facebook is the first victim

672
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:57.719
of that. I was so creeped
out scrolling that timeline and I realized that

673
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.119
you know a lot of people that
I you know on there have either had

674
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.840
their accounts compromised or been duped,
but it doesn't matter. Every other damn

675
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:15.119
thing. There was engagement farming,
but one hundred percent emotionally targeted and emotionally

676
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:20.119
targeted at elderly people, which then
in many cases if it's not just about

677
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.639
the engagement and monetizing it, but
also it's the part where they can later

678
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:28.320
scam you because you'll take a friend
request and it's the stuff's absurd, but

679
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:36.719
also it bypasses people's normal filter because
they don't understand how they're being taken advantage

680
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.000
of or potentially taken advantage of.
And you know, a lot of it's

681
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.960
just kids who look a little sick
and they're like, you know, Billy's

682
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.840
got cancer. He could really use
some some likes or some whatever it is,

683
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:51.280
or little numbers tests, you know, spend it. Click this clock

684
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:53.440
and it will tell you how many
years you have to do whatever. And

685
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:57.639
then as soon as you click it, in the same way that you're launching

686
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:05.559
an ex file program, it allows
the scammers to either financially abuse you get

687
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.679
just get further engagement, or manipulate
then what you're feeding people, because what

688
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:14.480
happens is when you click that,
you also are reposting it. Even though

689
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:20.760
you're not hitting the repost, it's
doing that and the images are disturbing.

690
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:22.239
I have a question. I'm gonna
ross. I'm gonna send you an image

691
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:37.760
I saw yesterday that's going to ross
How How how do people look at that?

692
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:42.039
And and I understand why. That's
a kid on the brink of death

693
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:49.039
but also really excited for her birthday. She's got a cake. So it's

694
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.559
a it's a little kid in a
bathing suit floating in the ocean. Fawn

695
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:57.400
in the ocean, faces slightly out
of the water like an oxygen mask attached

696
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:05.639
to a cake and yes, today's
my birthday. Please, Like, so,

697
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:09.079
what is the oxygen mask is going
to the cake? It's obviously it's

698
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:13.920
AI, But I mean maybe you're
like an older like a super old boomer,

699
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:15.440
and you're scrolling through and you're like, oh my god, there's this

700
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:20.000
sick child. Oh horrible, right, Yeah, their parents brought into the

701
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.480
beach because she's obviously dying. She
hooks up to the oxygen mask and she

702
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.480
just wants to celebrate her day on
the beach and oh my god, I'm

703
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:30.880
going to click through this and and
if you interact with that, and and

704
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:36.199
that's everywhere. Now Twitter's got its
own thing. Apparently there's a lot of

705
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.840
stuff in people's bio you should check
out, but mostly it's boobs because that's

706
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:43.360
all you hear about now is a
you know, Twitter is nothing, her

707
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.920
ex is nothing but ads. Now
Dylon Musk is ruined it. Well,

708
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.840
the same thing. Yesterday. I
went on to Facebook because I've slowly weaned

709
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.880
myself off Facebook over the years because
I was like, man, I'm spending

710
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:53.719
way too much time on social media. It's not healthy. So yesterday I

711
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:58.119
was actually scrolling and I'm like every
other thing is an ad. It's one

712
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:01.159
of these AI posts. It's a
group I never joined. It's it's garbage

713
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:06.239
now, it's not usable. Yeah, And I hate to say that because

714
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:07.840
I, you know, I thought
Facebook, for the most part, was

715
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:12.320
an easy way and it was a
good engagement way. Because I don't I

716
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:17.400
don't just see engagement as we have
to monetize it. That's management's job to

717
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:22.360
probably be part of the meeting today. But I enjoy it, and I

718
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.840
think it breeds a health I think
it breeds for a healthy show. There's

719
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:29.519
stuff that I see off the air
that I'm like, oh my gosh,

720
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:31.679
let's uh this is this is really
cool. Somebody should see it. I

721
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:35.559
had so much fun with the am
Do you see the Amtrak post yesterday?

722
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:42.920
That was so much fun mocking then
because I got to get what's our nickname

723
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.480
for that cop who slept with all
their part all the people she work with.

724
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.559
I can't remember the affectionate name we
used, but anyway, you know,

725
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:54.440
I was able to literally bleed that
story in with the others. All

726
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:59.519
right, So all right, so
what do we got lined up here?

727
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:02.000
Ross just getting everything? So we
have one of the state auditor candidates and

728
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:08.719
then we have Brad not for okay, all right, who was first?

729
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.880
Dave? All Right, So here's
what we're gonna do, guys, I'm

730
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.239
gonna we're gonna do weather. When
he hit a break, we'll come back,

731
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:20.840
we'll chat with one of the state
auditor candidates, and then we'll have

732
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:27.119
a congressional discussion with Brad not although
he's that things have changed in that district,

733
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:30.559
but we'll chat with him again.
Those will be coming up here in

734
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:32.760
just a few minutes. But first
your weather with is it mister stagic?

735
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:36.760
Today? Back in our sir?
Back at it? Hey, how you

736
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:42.440
doing? What were you doing yesterday? Huh? It was a long trip

737
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.440
to Oxford. My niece graduated Old
Miss and it was kind of basically,

738
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:53.199
you're in North Carolina and not North
Carolina, wait in England watching Pelosi debate

739
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:59.239
the guy from Mumford and sons.
No, I was not, so it

740
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:00.519
was just out is just kind of
like, you know what, I just

741
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:05.119
don't want to do it. Honestly, I was just five and a half

742
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.719
each way, and you're there for
a day and you come back the day

743
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:09.440
after and so yeah, there's a
long trip, but how are you,

744
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.800
hey, relative I might hear this. I hated coming to your thing anyway.

745
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.000
I don't know. It's good man. Let's uh, you know,

746
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:21.760
let's keep things rolling in a positive
weather environment. Maybe a little more golf

747
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:25.159
the weather people appreciate. So yeah, the best day is probably not election

748
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:29.079
day, run off election day,
so people got to go to the polls

749
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:30.960
today when they're wet, that kind
of stuff. Yeah, a little wet

750
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:36.320
Fayetteville to Hickory right now. Showers
are already lined up heading north, so

751
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:40.239
here shortly tryad triangle, gonna get
this batch of showers, a little bit

752
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:44.519
more spotty after that comes through,
and then more into the afternoon, so

753
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:47.800
you know, you get this probably
more persistent batch here, some heavier showers

754
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:52.760
that comes through this morning, and
then more widely scattered this afternoon. Certainly

755
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.800
not going to be raining every hour
of the day, a lot of clouds

756
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:59.119
around, limited sunshine. High's close
to seventy. Some showers and thunder showers

757
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:02.719
tonight Tomorrow will do it in the
afternoon, mainly a chance of showers in

758
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:06.719
the morning, but not like we're
going to see this morning. And then

759
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.000
Thursday slight chance of showers. Thursday
Friday actually pretty decent as we'll get back

760
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:14.400
close to eighty on either side of
eighty, depending where you are, so

761
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:17.239
upper seventies to low eighties. And
a quick shot at the weekend, mild

762
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:22.440
to getting warmer, and we're probably
back to some showers, thunder showers,

763
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:28.639
and again emphasizing, I'm probably going
to see more biased toward the afternoon,

764
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.239
so it really sounds like summertime.
They were almost there as we head toured

765
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:37.480
the middle of the month. Rain
chances each day here except for Friday Thursday,

766
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.760
small chance, the best chances surrounding
that not only today and tomorrow,

767
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:45.159
but also into the weekend. Okay, all right, very good, thank

768
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:46.960
you sir, and we'll talk in
an hour. There you go. Race

769
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.239
staging, all right, we'll talk
to Dave and Brad coming up in the

770
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:57.039
next few minutes, but first to
break KCO Day Radio program KCO Day Radio

771
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.599
program. All right, we're gonna
be chatting with progressional candidate Brad Natt.

772
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:06.159
Although his runoff race obviously there have
been some changes since we last spoke,

773
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:13.239
but you know, still matters,
and also statewide big runoff for the auditor

774
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:17.360
and Lieutenant governor. Let's we'll get
into those calls now and We'll start with

775
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:22.320
one of the auditor candidates day.
Is it Bullock or Bullock? I'm sure

776
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:24.320
I always butcher it. Which one
is it? Sir? Good morning,

777
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:29.280
Casey, It's Dave Bullick Bullock.
All right, and let me just let

778
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:31.119
me just give a little background,
because I no offense, sir. It's

779
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:36.599
not auditor is not the sexy one
unless want to use driving a car on

780
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:38.159
top of other cars, which,
by the way, have you ever done

781
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:44.239
that? You're a monster truck the
car while possibly being inebriated. Or two

782
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.000
things. One, it's not sexy, so I'm obviously qualified for the job.

783
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:52.440
And number two, I have never
popped my car up on top of

784
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.840
another car and still to this day
can't figure out how that one happens.

785
00:59:57.920 --> 00:59:59.719
Well, you don't do it with
your car, you do it with this

786
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.920
eight cars. So yeah, and
let's not forget what the audits in the

787
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.760
backseat. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Well, by the way, you scare

788
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.079
me, sir, because the first
thing I ever saw was you auditing somebody's

789
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.719
refrigerator. I guess maybe that was
your own, and that's like looking at

790
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:16.320
my search results, So stay away. But let's I want to get into

791
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:21.800
the auditor thing real quick with you. Yeah, you, Uh, there

792
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:27.159
is definitively different backgrounds. Uh,
you're up against the individual who did get

793
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.599
more votes than you the first time
around, But we shall have a runof

794
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:34.119
because they didn't meet the threshold.
Uh they currently I don't know. Do

795
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.519
they still work for one of the
representatives. Is it Psyke's office or he

796
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:44.159
was working for Yeah, my plan
of works for the General Assembly General Assembly?

797
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:49.800
Okay, and you, I,
this is what an interesting time for

798
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:52.679
you. You're on the UNC Board
of Trustees, aren't you. I am,

799
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:57.840
I have been to the last almost
five years now. Case okay,

800
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.360
But at the end of the day, yeah, and I'm sure I'll let

801
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:01.920
you go right into it and tell
us. But at the end of the

802
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:06.960
day, I see people trying to
break down big differences, and I think

803
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.679
there's a lot of real shared experience
and ideas. So maybe this isn't the

804
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:15.199
nastiest of race. But I want
you to draws that definitive line there why

805
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:20.440
you think you're the guy, So
please fire Wasser. Yeah, I appreciate

806
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:24.119
it, and you're right, this
hasn't been a nasty race. My opponent

807
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:31.199
and I have very similar values,
very similar commitments. To doing what's right

808
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:37.079
for the tax payer. The difference, I believe is my experience. I've

809
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:39.360
raised a family, I've got two
kids that are off the family pay roll.

810
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:43.519
I've signed the phone of a paycheck
as well as the back of a

811
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:47.320
paycheck. I do have a master's
degree in business administration. I've started a

812
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:51.719
business, run it, sold it. So I have a lot of real

813
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:55.599
world private sector experience that I would
bring to the State Auditor's office and in

814
01:01:55.719 --> 01:02:00.519
my role at Chapel Hill, which
is kind of odd, right for conservative

815
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:02.559
to be at Tripol Hill. No, I think I was so good.

816
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:06.039
I think it's so good right now
we need more of it and you need

817
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.800
to make that guy the chancellor for
good. Anyway, I'm sorry, Well

818
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:14.360
that question and a lot of that, A lot of what Chancellor Roberts was

819
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:19.239
able to do on April thirtieth by
matching down, as most of your listeners

820
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.719
are aware of, the Palestinian flag
and putting back up that American flag.

821
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.559
You know, we spent the last
four and a half years working to bring

822
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:30.960
balance at the university. We started
with budget reform where we uncovered and fixed

823
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:36.639
one hundred million dollar structural death so
that by the way the former elected state

824
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:39.519
auditor never found in her audits,
but we did and fixed it at the

825
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:45.000
board level. I was one that
stood up. Yeah, I was one

826
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.519
that stood up and said, note
to Nicole Hannah Jones in the sixteen nineteen

827
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.119
project, because I don't believe that
a New York Times newspaper reporter should at

828
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:57.039
any time have any say in what
our nation's sistory is. You got called

829
01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:59.800
a clan member for that two sir, and he didn't take the bait that

830
01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:05.679
I could find, right, I
didn't because that's you know, I stood

831
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.760
up for what I believe was was
the right thing to do for North Carolinians.

832
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:13.679
And you know, just just yesterday
at a thirty in the morning,

833
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:19.920
I still lead the university's Budget,
Finance and Infrastructure Committee, and we announced

834
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:25.039
that we're redirecting two point three million
dollars in readily identifiable DEI funds to public

835
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:30.320
safety. Also, because you know, Casey, that's the right thing to

836
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:40.559
do. DEI is a divisive construct
that is meant to instill a cultural ideology

837
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.000
that people may may not may not
profess to. But if you don't follow

838
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:52.760
along with the DEI rhetoric, you're
somehow considered an outsider and not worthy,

839
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:57.239
and that's just not what the United
States and North Carolina is about. So

840
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:02.079
I'm very comfortable standing up against the
well, Dan, I'm sorry, I'm

841
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:05.480
gonna hit. I've got about thirty
seconds, so just real succinctly, please,

842
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:11.000
sir well, I appreciate it.
Go vote today. Look, North

843
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:15.800
Carolina's the greatest state and the greatest
country on the planet. Exercise your right

844
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.719
to vote. I think I'm a
good candidate, the right candidate, Dave

845
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:24.079
Bullock for State Auditor. And by
the way, Casey, Happy barbecue day,

846
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:26.239
Phil. This hour is going to
be a busy, busy, busy

847
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:30.679
one. It is a runoff day
here in North Carolina. And while you

848
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:32.880
know, there are state wide races. So if you're listening to me and

849
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:40.079
you can vote in North Carolina,
you have a responsibility or at least an

850
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:43.599
opportunity however you want to see it. I don't care, but it will.

851
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:46.159
I say this a lot when we
have those off your elections, so

852
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:51.159
they can scam city council positioning in
many of our cities. But it if

853
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:55.760
you look at early voting and expect
to turn out for something like this,

854
01:04:56.079 --> 01:05:00.320
your vote will never go further,
which is unlike your grocery dollar right now.

855
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:05.719
So today's the day you could be
the pain in the ass that makes

856
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:09.960
somebody lose by one. Wouldn't that
be a good feel? Or your guy

857
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:14.679
win by one, depending on your
general outlook on stuff, So get out

858
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:17.719
there and do it. A couple
of state offices. We did have this

859
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:25.239
congressional runoff with brad Not and miss
Daughtry, and she has now left the

860
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:29.519
race, thrown her sort behind,
thrown her support behind brad Not and Bradnat

861
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:31.000
joins us. Now, thanks for
hanging on, sir, busy morning,

862
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:34.159
how you doing. Hey, good
to be with you. Thank you so

863
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:38.239
much. Let me let me get
this out of the way. So like

864
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:43.159
because immediately when something like that happens, especially and I'll say it like this,

865
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:50.840
you guys have had an interesting run
a race, especially when listening to

866
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:56.000
some of the advertising, which is
literally caused people write me about the ads

867
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.440
like why is this thing based on
the Trump endorsement? So to see it

868
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:02.880
all imediately like resolved in a few
days after we last chatted, you know,

869
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:06.639
people are like, ah, you
know that's like when the you know,

870
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:11.239
they sent the consigli area to go
talk to that record producer like you,

871
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:15.280
You and somebody got her in a
room and you know stuff, and

872
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:18.360
people assigned a lot of stuff and
I don't know, maybe you gotta I

873
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:21.440
don't know, maybe you got a
book of something and you're threatening to release

874
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:26.239
it. But I'll give you an
opportunity because people love conspiracies. How did

875
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:30.800
that all play out? Yeah,
there's no conspiracy. There's nothing juicy about

876
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:36.639
it, Casey. The politics is
all about timing. And there were two

877
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:42.679
different campaigns in this runoff, very
distinct. My opponent was self funded and

878
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:46.159
we were majority. We had to
raise We put in some money our own,

879
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.079
but we had to raise most of
our money. And so when we

880
01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:54.199
got into the runoff, their strategy
was very clear and it was make sure

881
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:59.280
we don't get off the grounds.
So they just barraged us with all kinds

882
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:01.760
of negative ads. They had a
pack, they had their campaign. There

883
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:05.039
were two arms that were coming at
us, and you were right, and

884
01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:14.039
those ads were everywhere. They saturated
every media, hy every arm they could,

885
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:19.280
and some of those ads were I
would say deceiving less than fully honest.

886
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:26.199
We've already discussed that on previous shows, but unfortunately for them, we

887
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.960
were able to get off the ground
and our campaign was very methodical. We

888
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.519
were very focused with our message.
We didn't really respond to all of the

889
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.559
negative attacks because we couldn't do that. There were just too many of them.

890
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:43.960
But our message was very persistent and
it resonated, and slowly but surely,

891
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:48.280
we got local law enforcement support,
We got local representatives who endorsed us,

892
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:54.920
We got a great boost from grassroots
movements and organizations around the district.

893
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:59.039
We were very aggressive and going to
meet with people face to face, whether

894
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:03.079
it's county gas groups or civics groups, rhetory clubs, all the above.

895
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.480
And then we started to get some
of the higher profile folks, you know,

896
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:12.480
Dan Bishop, Dan Forrest, Ted
budd and others got on our on

897
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.119
our train, and then when President
Trump got on, it was just,

898
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:20.079
you know, his his endorsement was
like rocket fuel. And the last month

899
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:26.119
of this runoff, our message just
caught in a really big way, and

900
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:30.800
my opponent had sort of fired everything
she could and despite that effort, our

901
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:35.279
campaign caught and our momentum surged,
and that's what prompted her to get out

902
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:40.720
of the race. It was it
was an unexpected phone call, but you

903
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:45.079
know, we had felt that movement
on the ground and had felt the responses

904
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:47.760
from people, and our events were
better attended and so on and so forth,

905
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:51.560
So very unexpected. We're very surprised, but we're grateful at the same

906
01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:57.359
time. You know, here's the
I hate when primary races have become like

907
01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:00.840
that pressor as shamed to pick on
you guys. But you know, some

908
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:05.359
politician who just came out had like
thirty mistresses and then his wife standing there

909
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:09.880
at the presser with him, and
it's just like, it feels so awkward.

910
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:14.000
So when we hear all of those
ads and then like two days later,

911
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:16.880
you're like, I endorsed this person
and that we were all just hateful

912
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:20.800
towards each other. Like don't you
think that adds to a just a little

913
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:26.199
bit of the like the fakery in
politics as people perceive it. I think

914
01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:30.239
people have a cynical view about that
stuff, and I don't know that it's

915
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.359
unfortunate. There is a lot of
cynicism around political races and politicians and so

916
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:38.359
forth. And you know, there's
a very big difference between a documented,

917
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:45.640
factual negative ad and a sort of
anecdotal high problele know, hyperbole and negative

918
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.000
ads and yeah, but you're asking
people to parse that. I'm sorry,

919
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:51.680
just but you're asking people to parse
it who have enough going on in their

920
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.520
day that they can't always hate that
assertion. So if it sounds negative and

921
01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:59.319
they're like, why are two Goop
people screaming at each other? I think

922
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:02.159
it puts people all it does.
It does. There's no there's no other

923
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:06.520
way around it. And you know, like I said, we were we

924
01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:11.000
were caught between a rock and the
hard places. We had so many negative

925
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:14.039
ads, whether it was male,
radio, TV, digital, et cetera,

926
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:15.600
and uh, you know, we
couldn't really respond to all of it.

927
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:19.720
And we generated a lot of a
lot of positive ads, a lot

928
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:26.840
of you know, substance in our
in our in our outreach and uh the

929
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:30.159
good news is and our polling to
your point, Casey, a lot of

930
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:34.000
those negative ads ended up blowing back
on my opponent, her, her,

931
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:40.079
the the the utility of those ads. It failed. Uh, it was

932
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:45.560
just so voluminous that people kind of
start to distrust. And you know,

933
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:47.279
we we did our own share of
negative ads. We hit we hit her

934
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:50.640
for her donations and so forth,
just kind of calling into to question her

935
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:55.520
credibility. But in a perfect world, we could be all positive all the

936
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.760
time, and that's unfortunately not the
world that we're in right now. And

937
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:01.760
I don't know, I don't know
the expected spend. How do you deal

938
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:06.159
with it as as a person who
if you who has basically been told not

939
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:11.520
maybe you personally, but when you
read the stories that this was it,

940
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.399
you're now the congressman and it's only
a matter of waiting. How do you

941
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.960
how do you approach that? Because
you have an opponent was if Frank Pierce

942
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:21.000
is his name is? He owns
a couple of landscape companies. He's run

943
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:26.159
I think for city council, actually
the district next to me. Well,

944
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:28.800
let me let me, let me, let me let me peel that back.

945
01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:31.359
We are not taking that posture at
all right now. Kelly Daughtry is

946
01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:35.800
still on the ballot. We are
taking nothing for granted. We took a

947
01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:41.800
poll a short while ago, Casey, and we saw that there was or

948
01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:45.319
we saw a pole rather that that
up to forty five percent of the folks

949
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:47.880
in the district, just to you
know, within two weeks did not realize

950
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:51.720
that Kelly Daughtry had gotten out of
the race, so you get outside the

951
01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:56.479
Johnson and Wait County media markets and
you know a lot of people still assume

952
01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:00.359
she's in and her name is still
on the ballot. So we are got

953
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.279
to finish this race strong. If
you are a supporter, if you're a

954
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:06.119
voter in the thirteenth district, please
get out and vote. There are two

955
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:11.279
other very important races on the ballot. To please get out and vote,

956
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:14.239
even though the weather's bad and you
may have other stuff to do, get

957
01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:17.319
in line, go vote. If
we are able to finish finish this race

958
01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.399
as we hope to and come out
to the victor, we're going to have

959
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:24.520
the same posture. We want to
get out and meet with as many people

960
01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:29.960
as we can Democrat, Independent,
Republican. And you know our campaign is

961
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.600
a very it's a very simple message
about making government work for all people.

962
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:38.760
And right now, no one feels
that. No one feels that that's happening,

963
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:43.239
and regardless of affiliation or leaning in
this district, we want to get

964
01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:45.640
out and meet you face to face. I know you had his endorsements,

965
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:49.399
so you might have a little bias
here, but I really just last question

966
01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:57.520
put on your prosecutor had how far
are you following the storm of this this

967
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:00.199
trial in New York. I'm not
a lawyers or you're a lawyer. You're

968
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.520
a prosecutor. For God's sakes.
I understand the politics to it, but

969
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:08.319
procedurally, I've watched a law a
lot of law and order, which I'm

970
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:13.439
sure you love to hear. I
don't understand. I don't understand stuff that

971
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:18.760
is happening in there, that happens
outside of Judge Judy's courtroom. It's fascinating

972
01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:23.960
to me. So even if the
if the fix is in, this has

973
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:29.199
to be reversible for a thousand reasons. Yeah, you know, it's one

974
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:32.000
of the high honors of my career
was being able to go before a jury

975
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:36.680
and say I represent the United States. And uh I was always blessed to

976
01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:43.600
have worked before solid judges who protected
the courtroom and protected cases that were brought

977
01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:47.800
against people. And what we're seeing
in New York is really achieving a lot

978
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:53.279
of distrust in the judicial system.
That's a grave, grave problem. And

979
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:57.960
even folks like you know uh n
N commentators was taught where they were talking

980
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:01.079
over the weekend casey they said,
but for this man's last name of Trump,

981
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:06.000
this case would never have been brought
Ye said that, Yeah, that's

982
01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:11.640
crazy. That's exactly right. And
that's that's a that is a grave disservice

983
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:16.680
to the country and to what should
be an apolitical system. And it's without

984
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:21.439
any questions when you have to rely
on someone like mister Cohen to make the

985
01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:27.720
case for you, who has been
essentially imprisoned for his dishonesty and his dishonest

986
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:32.479
conduct before Congress, before dirs,
before other courts, et cetera. This

987
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:36.279
is just this is just unbelievable,
the contortions that are going through this legal

988
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:41.800
system, merging state crimes and federal
crimes and trying to thread needle after after

989
01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:46.199
Neil just to get Donald Trump.
It's a tremendous disservice to the country,

990
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:50.760
to the people of New York and
and just the effects of this will be

991
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:54.960
feeling for a long long time unfortunately. All right, Well, you know

992
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:59.279
what, don't exaggerate. Remember he
only recorded one client secretly once ever,

993
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:00.479
and it was trying, and he
only did it to help him. So

994
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:05.600
everything's fine, everything's thank you,
Dory. All right, So and then

995
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:10.319
you answer my last question earlier.
If your opponent's out, why show up

996
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:12.840
to the polls, and the answer
is because she's still on the ballot,

997
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:16.079
and just you know people should know
that is they head out. Brad Not

998
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:21.159
thirteen Congressional District. Appreciate your time
this morning. Thank you so much.

999
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:25.680
Good to be with you. Absolutely
all right, there you go. So

1000
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:28.560
yeah, we're just uh, well, if I can find the right thing

1001
01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:30.760
to put on hold, there we
go. All right, well let me

1002
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:32.920
we got oh, we got all
right, so we got Jack Clark,

1003
01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:36.840
who is the other state auditor runoff
guy. We'll be chatting with Jack after

1004
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:42.119
the bottom of the hour. First, Mark Walker, who's not technically running

1005
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:45.680
for anything but kind of because he
is actually part of the Trump campaign.

1006
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:48.920
Now and we haven't chatted in a
while, sir, are you too good

1007
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:54.239
for us? What's going on?
Are you just really busy? I really

1008
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:59.439
am for you now with this new
ferish So it's just no, no,

1009
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:01.680
no, no, of course not. He's eating caviar. He's eating caviar.

1010
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:06.119
Run video right now. He's eating
caviars. So no, hardly.

1011
01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:09.960
Now, we've been busy traveling.
Yeah, I guess you know, as

1012
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:14.920
the faith outreach director for the RNC, I guess Trump twenty twenty four but

1013
01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:17.840
yeah, trying to organize a lot
of our faith out groups, ministries and

1014
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:23.479
nonprofits, etc. So trying to
get him all pull in the same direction

1015
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:27.439
and realize the level or the depth
of evil that we're battling right now.

1016
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:30.880
And I think once people see that, I think it motivates them to get

1017
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:34.279
engaged. Yeah, all right,
So your your focus is on the faith

1018
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:40.800
side of things. I think since
Trump said what was it two Corinthians?

1019
01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:45.079
There has you know, people have
leaned into that part of his personality.

1020
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:49.720
I don't. I don't do I
think Trump is a holy roller. No,

1021
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:55.199
but talk to me, even with
all the stuff that people may criticize

1022
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:59.479
from a character standpoint, which is
easy to do under a microscope, what

1023
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:03.600
faith really and how that instructs Trump, even if it's through his people around

1024
01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:08.800
him, like you, how does
that play in Well, Well, let's

1025
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:11.479
I was talking with him the other
day and when we were talking about this

1026
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:15.239
position and in the future and working
with him on some different and some different

1027
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:18.640
arenas. But if what you see
is what you get, he's the same

1028
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:23.079
person in a private conversation where we
were meeting with him in the oval office

1029
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:26.520
or on the phone, and you
know, he's a New York real estate

1030
01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:31.439
playboy tycoon that takes a different approach. Yet at the same time, I

1031
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:38.119
think people understand what's at stake and
why you need a warrior in the mindset.

1032
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:40.920
If you want to bowl this down, it comes down very simple.

1033
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:45.880
You have one administration that simply is
about undermining your faith and family, and

1034
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:50.439
you have one administration, the Trump
administration, would be to protect your faith

1035
01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:55.439
and your family. And some of
these pastors and ministers that say, you

1036
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:59.119
know what, we're above this,
we don't get involved. But at the

1037
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:01.600
same time they'll say, yeah,
we're battling evil, And I will ask

1038
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:05.039
the question, if you're not on
the front lines of these faith groups,

1039
01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:09.680
and if you're willing to agree that
we're battling evil, who the heck do

1040
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:13.840
you expect to fight this battle?
And that's what we're trying to communicate across.

1041
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:17.479
Yes, Trump can be brash,
is language, We get all that,

1042
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:21.039
But right now you have a binary
choice. You've got somebody that is

1043
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:25.760
completely destroying our country or somebody that
will go out to protect and defend our

1044
01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:29.479
country. I think that I think
a lot of people's dividing line is all

1045
01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:31.520
right, are they the same faith
as me, or do they they practice

1046
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:36.199
in the same way or do they
let me? And I feel it's really

1047
01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:41.560
bad that we're down to the Hey, do they actually let me practice my

1048
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:44.680
faith? But hey, that's where
we are. And ironically that was kind

1049
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:46.600
of the whole founding of the country, one of the big reasons there.

1050
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:55.079
So let's talk about how does how
does he was in like nine different places,

1051
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:59.000
not even giving speeches the other day, like bopping from Wildwood to Florida

1052
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:02.079
to New York to all the us
of it. A president running for office?

1053
01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:06.680
Is their schedule sucks? Anyway?
Is even more so, how's that

1054
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:11.399
impacted? Because I saw up in
New Jersey it doesn't look like it's putting

1055
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:16.319
a stop in it in any way, shape or form. Our interior analytics

1056
01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:20.760
show that's actually helping us because the
people see the intentionality of it. You

1057
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:27.000
saw the turnout in Wildwood here over
the weekend. When you look at President

1058
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:30.880
Trump, he is the working class
president. There's a loyalty in a bond.

1059
01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:36.720
There's nothing that the press, media
or in this case, the defense

1060
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:40.640
or the prosecution. I should say
that, however they come after him,

1061
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:44.359
there's nothing that they're going to do
that breaks that bomb between President Trump and

1062
01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:47.680
the working class, which is about
forty five percent the Republican base. So

1063
01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:53.159
all all he needs to do is
keep moving this needle forward a little bit

1064
01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:56.600
with some people out there in the
middle. And I think what you've seen

1065
01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:00.359
in the swing states, my focus
is primarily said and swinging states, but

1066
01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:05.680
you're seeing this needle starting to move
with people realizing what's at stake in November,

1067
01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:10.399
and I think that President Trump,
I'll tell you this, I think

1068
01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:14.079
he's gonna win by North Carolina twice
as much as what he wanted by last

1069
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:16.399
time. I think four plus points, and I think that's going to help

1070
01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:21.039
some of the Council of State members
as well. Is that why he's not

1071
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:28.840
coming down and doing the GOP convention
as he's done in the two previous presidential

1072
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:30.800
cycles. Some people are wondering if
he feels a little too sure of the

1073
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:35.000
state. I got about a minute
go ahead. No, not at all,

1074
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:40.159
but we've got to focus on other
places Nevada, Georgia, Arizona,

1075
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:43.680
Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan as well. So that's why you're seeing him more

1076
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:47.479
and more, and I think you'll
see him back. But he's been very

1077
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:51.720
good to us at the convention,
coming to the last two times that we've

1078
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:56.560
had it here, I guess specifically
even in Greensboro. But you'll see him

1079
01:20:56.640 --> 01:20:59.520
back. But we've got to make
sure that we're keeping him in the right

1080
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:02.000
places with his team, that he's
out there to get this word, just

1081
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:05.800
like he was in New Jersey,
a place where he lost by fourteen four

1082
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:09.720
years ago. But it's now all
the way down to only a six point

1083
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:12.960
lead for Biden. We're seeing this
kind of progress in many different places.

1084
01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:15.359
Yeah, the Nevada numbers are crazy
from last time around. All Right,

1085
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:19.000
Mark, I know you're busy,
busy, busy. We'd love to hear

1086
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:23.279
tales from the road man, So
you know, try to find the time

1087
01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:26.840
and we'll make it work because there's
a whole bunch we could talk about for

1088
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:30.399
sure. Okay, look forward to
it, Casey, take care of right.

1089
01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:32.359
Yeah, there you go, Mark
Walker, from a congressman candidate and

1090
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:38.000
now a guy in charge of seven
states for the Trump campaign. All Right,

1091
01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:42.000
more candidates. We've got hol Weatherman, We've got Clark, we got

1092
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.680
all sorts of folks coming up.
Cacoday Radio program on the GOP Primary.

1093
01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:49.000
I never know what we're gonna get, I should say runoff. I never

1094
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:54.399
know what we're going to get of
the I guess five candidates because we got

1095
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:59.079
two more holding, we will have
spoke with four of them. So that's

1096
01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:01.760
kind of amazing. Who we meant, Oh, Jim O'Neill, that's who

1097
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:05.359
we're missing. So anyway, let's
go ahead and dive into this. And

1098
01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:11.079
Jack Clark is the other side of
that auditor's ticket. We talked to his

1099
01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:15.039
opponent earlier, and I don't know, did you hear the interview? Mister

1100
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:17.960
Clark? How you doing this morning? Good? How are you? Can

1101
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:20.439
you hear me? Yeah? Yeah, did you hear my interview with your

1102
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:25.880
opponent earlier? Be good if you
did, because then I did not hear

1103
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:29.560
it, but I got several texts
thing he was on and from you call

1104
01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:33.439
in Here's what I like about your
race? Yeah? Yeah, well here's

1105
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:38.800
what I like about your guys' race. And maybe it's just because it's a

1106
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:42.039
respite. I haven't heard you guys
be horrible to each other, so I

1107
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:45.560
don't know that makes me feel okay. But also I think that there are

1108
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:49.479
differences your background, his background,
different things that you hope to accomplish.

1109
01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:55.159
So let's start with those differences.
Why are you the better auditor pick for

1110
01:22:55.279 --> 01:23:00.680
GOP voters. So my career is
in auditing. I have a CPA,

1111
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.439
and I spent years in the private
sector as an auditor. I can't overstate

1112
01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:10.279
how important it is to have that
training and background to run the audit department.

1113
01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.560
You know, It's it's one thing
to lead a bunch of lawyers to

1114
01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.319
do law stuff, but it's an
entirely thing, an entirely different thing,

1115
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:23.680
to lead a bunch of auditors to
perform audits. So I think that that's

1116
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:28.600
really what I've been anchoring my my
campaign on. And the second is that

1117
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:32.960
I'm not campaigning on who I'm going
to go after. We saw a DA

1118
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:36.560
in New York campaign on who they're
going after, and we all know how

1119
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:45.600
that's turning out. I'm trying to
I would rather look, I do my

1120
01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:47.760
entire campaign, you know, my
entire career. I'm trying to do the

1121
01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:54.119
right thing. I don't care if
things are politically expedient for me. I'm

1122
01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:57.279
going to do what's right. You
know, I was a Republican in Washington,

1123
01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:00.319
d C. I was in college
Republicans at Duke universe. The You

1124
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:04.199
know, I've been a republic in
my whole life and it wasn't to my

1125
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:11.079
benefit at all in these heavily democratic
areas. So you can trust me as

1126
01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:15.119
auditor. Well, and let me
ask you this, because I just got

1127
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:17.239
this email, and I suppose this
is the place we should start. Other

1128
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:21.039
than monster trucking things with your state
vehicle? What does the auditor do?

1129
01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:24.720
All? Right? By the way, you've never done that, right,

1130
01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:28.279
You never got hammered and drove up
on somebody's car, have you? Okay?

1131
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:31.119
Good, that's a very low ude. Don't make many campaigns. Yeah,

1132
01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:34.119
I don't make many campaign promises.
One is to keep all four wheel

1133
01:24:34.119 --> 01:24:36.560
off on the ground. That is
one campaign promise. Well, hey,

1134
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:40.960
no, if it's your own time
vehicle, right, you're off roading.

1135
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.920
That's that's between you and God.
But what does the state auditor do?

1136
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:49.159
Man? A state auditor goes into
anywhere that receives taxpayer money and make sure

1137
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:53.840
that money is being used as intended. So one thing the auditor doesn't do

1138
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:58.239
is decide on policy or allocate the
money. But once the money is allocated

1139
01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:03.319
and the make sure those policies are
being followed. Someone just has to come

1140
01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:09.359
in and check when the General Assembly
or the local governments allocate money to different

1141
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:13.239
areas, so someone has to check
to make sure it's actually going there.

1142
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:17.319
And that's really the key role of
the author. You you obviously your background,

1143
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:21.000
not obviously your opponent's background. Is
you know, you guys are all

1144
01:25:21.079 --> 01:25:26.239
intertwined in the in the sausage factory
as far as the sausage getting made.

1145
01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:29.079
I'm not going to use the swamp
thing, although that exists to some extent.

1146
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:33.159
But the question, I think some
people have one, whether it's him

1147
01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:38.680
with his board appointment or your work
for the General Assembly. How are you

1148
01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:43.039
How are you still able to provide
oversight when that oversights on people that your

1149
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:47.640
colleagues and possibly friends. So explain
how that that disconnects so that the process

1150
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:54.239
can work. How you achieve that? So the General Assembly is the one

1151
01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:59.039
allocating the money and the auditor is
making sure that money is being used correctly.

1152
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:02.600
I'm sorry, and I'm sorry.
Let me I just sorry. I

1153
01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:06.359
want to clarify the question. I'm
not implying that you're auditing the General Assembly,

1154
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:11.960
but generally the General Assembly a lot
of times gives money to people they

1155
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:16.239
like because it's the prerogative of whoever's
in powers. So the people on the

1156
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:20.119
receiving end are also going to be
folks that you probably have a relationship with,

1157
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:25.159
correct a lot of them. Yeah, okay, all right, So

1158
01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:27.640
I'm just want to be clear for
the people. I know you understood the

1159
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:29.800
question, but go ahead. I'm
sorry to interrupt. Yeah. Yeah,

1160
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:33.880
So you know, my opponents donated
to a lot of them. I just

1161
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:39.560
started in politics last year. Anyone
who's supporting me and the General Assembly is

1162
01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:43.760
doing that because they know my background. They like me, we get along.

1163
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:51.319
You know, someone who has donated
to the very top, who's gotten

1164
01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:56.880
appointments by them, I think that's
going to be a little more influential than

1165
01:26:56.920 --> 01:27:00.039
someone who just kind of went in
to see how process work, how the

1166
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.479
sausage was made. I like how
you put it. And you know,

1167
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:09.199
I've been I could have been saying
things that people wanted to hear throughout my

1168
01:27:09.319 --> 01:27:15.159
campaign that would have probably helped my
poll numbers, and but I've decided against

1169
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:20.840
that. Everyone knows that I'm independent. I've made entirely clear to everyone that

1170
01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:24.560
I'm going to do the right thing. I'm not going to be swayed by

1171
01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:30.199
any powers. You know, I
could have been swayed by democratic powers when

1172
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:34.560
I was in democratic areas. But
I've built my whole campaign, really my

1173
01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:42.920
whole life on doing the right thing, being independent, And just because I

1174
01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:45.880
get along with people doesn't mean I'm
just going to do what they say.

1175
01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:51.199
They can't tell me how to auten, you know. I'm I'll maybe make

1176
01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:57.439
suggestions on things, but they're they're
the ones making the policies and the law.

1177
01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:00.640
So we each have our roles to
play, and and I'm gonna play

1178
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:04.600
mine. Okay, Jack Clark with
us, I like that. I've been

1179
01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:08.159
around. I could have gone the
other way. I would hope, sir,

1180
01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:11.359
that it was not as one or
two life choices that kept you from

1181
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:15.680
standing on the campus or university at
CAFIFA yelling at Jewish people. So but

1182
01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:19.840
that's wild times, man. I
love the part too where he's on the

1183
01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:23.720
UNC board. You're a duke grad, so we can have that old fight.

1184
01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:27.600
So Jack Clark, you'll see him
on the other side of the auditor's

1185
01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:30.199
race. Get out and vote people. Jack appreciate the time this morning.

1186
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:34.039
Okay, thank you so much.
Yeap, All right, there you go

1187
01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:38.840
and like I said, we got
we got one more queued up. That's

1188
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:44.359
how Weatherman. He's the one of
the two along with Jim O'Neil runoff candidates

1189
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:47.520
for lieutenant governor. We'll chat with
Hal here in the last segment, so

1190
01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:50.000
ho'll hang on. I don't want
to just give you a couple of minutes.

1191
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:54.119
And uh, right now we'll get
Ray stage. I can chat with

1192
01:28:54.239 --> 01:28:59.039
him, who's not running for anything. No, just do you guys run

1193
01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:03.079
for chief meter cologists? Do you
guys have to like in uh black panther.

1194
01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:09.000
I'm not sure you don't really run
for it. Kind of it's just

1195
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:13.000
a title that's given to you.
Like here here in radio, we kind

1196
01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:16.239
of do what we want. So
I became senior Meteorologists just by you know,

1197
01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:21.359
longevity and years served that I could
you just add titles like like a

1198
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:27.560
like a dictator and yes, South
America exactly how it goes with no pay

1199
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:30.640
increase of course. You know,
remember we are at radio, those guys

1200
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:33.960
all the money. You just have
six stars on all right? All right,

1201
01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:39.319
us in looking at all right right
now, a little wet weather actually

1202
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:44.840
got a band of rain and showers
just northeast now of Hickory and Charlotte getting

1203
01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:48.159
into us, other parts of the
Triad and Fayetteville Sandford start to see that

1204
01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:51.520
rain come in, so dispatch all
overspread the areas we go through this morning.

1205
01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:57.000
That'll break, but more isolated shower
showers today. Really not expecting much

1206
01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:00.600
in the way of sunshine. If
you get sun and maybe you'll get a

1207
01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:03.039
little warmer than seventy, but most
of us mid upper sixties to near seventy

1208
01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:06.800
degrees. The shower stutter showers will
continue tonight and tomorrow too. We'll get

1209
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:11.119
more rain. There'll be some fog
in the morning right around seventy degrees,

1210
01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:13.560
and then Thursday probably gonna be the
big day of the week, lots of

1211
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:17.319
sun mid upper seventies before the shower
stutter showers return again Friday, and we'll

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01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:21.079
do some work of the weekend forecast
might just be afternoon stuff, case,

1213
01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:25.039
which we would expect this time of
year, will be warmer, close to

1214
01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:28.680
eighty degrees, but either way,
it looks like Thursday is gonna be the

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01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:30.880
only day over the X four or
five we don't mention rain. So as

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01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:38.319
a chief meteorologist Senior chief meteorologist six
stars, you're ross i heard take Thursday

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01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:42.000
off. Is that what he said? Yeah? So all right, good

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01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:45.960
advice, siate it right. All
right, there you go, and we're

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01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:49.960
gonna chat with Jeff Ballinger and then
Hal Weatherman. He is today one of

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01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:57.640
the two hopefuls for GOP's nomination for
well for lieutenant governor, and I think

1221
01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:00.640
he knows what lieutenant governor does because
he worked for one for a very long

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01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:01.920
time. So we'll chat with him
next. Hang on, I go to

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01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:06.920
Jeff Bellinger from Bloomberg with the professional
sounding way, how are you doing a

1224
01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:11.279
s morning, sir, I'm doing
well. Nice to hear you in studio

1225
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:15.159
quality as well. Look, yes
see yeah we like that. Yes,

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01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:19.920
last month's jump and wholesale level inflation
was bigger than expected. That report just

1227
01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:25.079
out at eight thirty this morning.
The headline Producer Price Index rose half a

1228
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:29.760
percent in April that topped all estimates. The year over year increase was two

1229
01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:33.199
point two percent that was in line
with forecasts, and the core PPI,

1230
01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:38.079
which strips out energy and food costs, was up four tens percent. And

1231
01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:44.079
economist tells Bloomberg her take is that
disinflation has stalled stock market futures, though

1232
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:46.960
they had a knee jerk reaction sharply
lower, but they're just a little bit

1233
01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:51.039
lower now. S and P futures
down just two points. Nasdaq futures are

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01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:55.640
down thirty three, the Dow futures
are down five. And that report first

1235
01:31:55.720 --> 01:31:59.319
came out, the Dow futures were
down more than one hundred points. The

1236
01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:03.680
soft housing market and weak demand for
big ticket appliances a really bad combination for

1237
01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:10.199
Home Depot. The home improvement chain
has reported negative sales now for six consecutive

1238
01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:15.159
quarters. Small business owners were more
upbeat last month. The National Federation of

1239
01:32:15.239 --> 01:32:19.680
Independent Business reports its Optimism index rose
for the first time this year, after

1240
01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:25.079
dropping in March to the lowest level
since twenty twelve. The index, though

1241
01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:30.760
is still well below its long term
average. Walmart's cutting hundreds of corporate jobs

1242
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:33.920
and notifying most remote workers they'll have
to work from the office most of the

1243
01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:39.880
time. The giant retailer will also
move workers from smaller offices in Dallas,

1244
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:45.520
Atlanta, and Toronto to bigger facilities, including its Bentonville, Arkansas headquarters.

1245
01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:50.640
About one thousand employees of the job
search website indeed, will ironically need the

1246
01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:56.079
services of a job search site indeed
planning a round of layoffs in response to

1247
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:59.800
a cooling labor market. A lot
of Tesla employees who were laid off a

1248
01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:03.720
couple of weeks ago we'll be rejoining
the electric car company, sources tell Bloomberg.

1249
01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:09.960
Tesla is rehiring about five hundred members
of its supercharger team. The workers

1250
01:33:10.039 --> 01:33:15.079
were fired by Elon Musk late last
month. Kraft Heines is reportedly looking to

1251
01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:18.159
get out of the packaged meats business. The Wall Street Journal says the food

1252
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:24.079
giant has put Oscar Meyer up for
sale. And Casey, krispy Kreme is

1253
01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:29.680
teamed up with the country music icon
Dolly Parton. The Dolly Southern Sweets donut

1254
01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:33.520
collection is in krispy Kreme stores now
for a limited time only. Casey,

1255
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:38.039
I like how krispy Kreme thinks they
need to do something to make me come

1256
01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:40.760
in and eat all their donuts.
It's like, you guys should just be

1257
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:44.039
open. That's fine, put your
little hot donuts sign on. We're good,

1258
01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:45.920
but all right cool if you like
Dolly and krispy Kreme. There you

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01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:48.920
go, Thanks, Jeff, Okay, have a good day, all right,

1260
01:33:49.039 --> 01:33:54.800
There you go, Jeff Ellinger,
Bloomberg News like I love me some

1261
01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:58.119
Dolly, but yeah, just tell
me the donuts are hot and you know

1262
01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:02.479
I'm there. All right, let's
chat with one of the two candidates you'll

1263
01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:08.680
see today as lieutenant governor runof Hal
Weatherman. Full disclosure, Hallie, you

1264
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:13.199
and I have known each other a
long time because you worked with Dan Forrest.

1265
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:16.560
Obviously, as things we're getting rolling
here, and I believe you and

1266
01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:21.880
I attended a Thanksgiving together at Dan's
house, not during an election year,

1267
01:34:21.960 --> 01:34:25.520
but I just want people to know
that. All right, full disclosure.

1268
01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:28.159
There we go. Where are you
better than Jim O'Neil, which, by

1269
01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:30.520
the way, I don't have beef
with either of you, So make the

1270
01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:38.119
case, sir, Thank you well. I'm a limited government, constitutional Christian

1271
01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:42.920
conservative running for lieutenant governor. My
wife and I sat out on this journey

1272
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:46.760
about sixteen months ago, and we
were the only candidate in the original eleven

1273
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:51.840
man field that went to all one
hundred counties. We went to thirty five

1274
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:56.840
counties five times or more. We
went to ten counties ten times or more.

1275
01:34:56.880 --> 01:35:00.439
And I think that's important because I
think if you governor or lieutenant governor

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01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:03.840
to lead a state, I think
you need to intimately know the state,

1277
01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:09.880
its strength and its weaknesses that we
know on the job training for me if

1278
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:13.720
I'm elected lieutenant governor. I had
the honor of privilege, as you pointed

1279
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:16.520
out, to serve as chief of
staff to a previous Lieutenant Governor, Dan

1280
01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:21.920
Forrest. And again that job afforded
me the ability to travel the state as

1281
01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:27.880
well and learn the state. So
you know, we put in a good

1282
01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:30.560
fight. We've gone through. We
were victorious on primary election night. We

1283
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:34.319
were the top vote getter. We
won sixty two of the one hundred counties,

1284
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:39.359
garnered one hundred and eighty one thousand
votes. But the second place senator

1285
01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:43.640
did challenge us to a runoff,
despite US defeating him by thirty four thousand

1286
01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:47.039
votes and defeating him in eighty of
the one hundred counties. But that runoff

1287
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:50.239
is today, and I asked people
to get out and vote, and I

1288
01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:57.920
asked for their support. What was
your least favorite county? How, No,

1289
01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:00.600
there is no such thing of Oliver
County. You know you know what?

1290
01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:04.680
Then I'm smart enough not to answer
that casey, But I will say

1291
01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:09.079
this, I do spend the vast
majority of my time. I'm eighty five

1292
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:13.560
of our one hundred counties or rural
and so where I spend the vast majority

1293
01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:17.760
of my time is actually not in
Charlotte or you know, Raleigh. It

1294
01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:23.000
actually is in the rural areas of
this state. And it's that's important.

1295
01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:26.479
I mean many counties that I go
to, especially in the far West and

1296
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:30.520
or the far East, you know, for Cumin's pass Quotank or Graham Swain,

1297
01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:33.199
you know, they'll say things like
I've never seen a lieutenant governor candidate

1298
01:36:33.279 --> 01:36:38.199
here, And We've gone to those
counties multiple times to show them the love

1299
01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:42.279
and the attention that they deserve.
And you know, and I think that's

1300
01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:44.640
important because I think if you want
to lead a state again, you need

1301
01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:46.760
to know it. But also you
need to show your face there. You

1302
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:49.439
need to know. And that's the
kind of lieutenant governor I want to be.

1303
01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:55.000
I want to be accessable to people. And I've said before that if

1304
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:57.920
I do have the honor and the
privilege to win, I'm not going to

1305
01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.159
govern. If you will from Raleigh, Yes, I'll preside over the State

1306
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:02.640
Senate, so I'll be in Raleigh. I'll have an office in Raleigh,

1307
01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:06.600
but you know, I'm going to
govern from the road I'm going to continue

1308
01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:12.319
what we have done and travel the
state so that people can know their lieutenant

1309
01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:15.800
governor, know them personally and let
me know what's on their minds. I've

1310
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:20.199
learned as I've gotten older in my
life, and I were believers, but

1311
01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:25.760
I have learned as I've gotten older. But it is more important as a

1312
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:29.119
candidate. It is more important not
what comes out of my mouth. It's

1313
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:31.680
more important that I had eyes to
see and ears to hear what people are

1314
01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:34.680
saying to me as I traveled to
state and then to try to solve the

1315
01:37:34.760 --> 01:37:38.560
problems. And so, like I
said, we tried to do something different

1316
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:42.159
in this campaign. We wanted in
a day and age of thirty second attack

1317
01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:46.520
ads, we wanted to connect one
on one with as many people as we

1318
01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:49.199
could. This is an interesting casey. We were the top fundraiser in our

1319
01:37:49.239 --> 01:37:53.399
eleven man field. We were the
top We raised more money than anyone else.

1320
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:57.960
Yet despite that, and on perpose, we did not put one diamond

1321
01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:00.680
TV, one diamond radio or one
dime and directly we just traveled the state

1322
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:03.520
and that with people one on one. I mean, I I don't I

1323
01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:06.840
don't want to tell you you're wrong, but I feel that a radio investment

1324
01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:11.600
would be a really good idea,
maybe a big fat one here, so

1325
01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:15.520
no, but no doubt that we
will do predicial advertising moving forward.