WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:30.559 Or are you s s s hello? What a welcome pleasure, Luis Miguel 2 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:35.359 Salgado. This asks. I am very happy today because we are about to 3 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:42.759 talk with an exceptional woman, a psychologist who has worked a lot on the 4 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:49.560 development of the person, on how can a person live better, on how 5 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:53.600 can a person feel better? And for me it is a privilege and an 6 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:59.520 honor to accompany us today. Ale Espinola, how are you? Hello, 7 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:03.079 Luis, it' s a pleasure and it' s an honor to be 8 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:04.879 here with you and thank you. Thanks for everything you said about me I 9 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.840 don' t believe it. On the contrary, welcome to the truth is 10 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.840 that it is a huge taste. Let me introduce you to what you deserve. 11 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:22.000 Ale Espinola, Spinola is not a teacher in clinical psychology specializing in pregnancy, 12 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:32.400 motherhood, parenthood and childhood psychopathology, counseling and counseling in children, adolescents, 13 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:38.480 adults, couples and processes that encompass motherhood. He is a member of 14 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:46.400 the comprehensive clinical kid team, being an interdisciplinary group focused on the care of 15 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:53.640 women and obviously also on the biological reproduction child, providing comprehensive care to patients. 16 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:57.280 And for me it' s a privilege and an honor to have experts, 17 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.680 as is the case with my guest, and not only that, but 18 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:07.519 truly knowing in a scientific way why things are the way they are, and 19 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.560 there are things that, just as mathematics is accurate, are two plus two. 20 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:16.599 There are also certain questions that human behavior can, of course, be 21 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:22.879 identified and can change and transform on a scientific basis. So it' s 22 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:25.520 a privilege for me. I tell you to share, it' s going 23 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:30.840 to be very interesting, I know you' ll see it right now, 24 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.680 see it later and share it because believe me my guest is going to give 25 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:58.319 you a very good taste of mouth and if that' s okay with you, 26 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.319 we start at what taste. Well welcome, the truth is that I 27 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:06.159 ' m really glad that you' re on this day with us and I 28 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.879 ' d like to ask you beyond what you' ve studied, what you 29 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:14.240 ' ve worked on, beyond everything you' ve spent time, effort, 30 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:19.960 money, all that. Tell us, who' s ale spinola, I 31 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.439 bid the thorn is. Who' s coming out? She' s hot, 32 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:24.759 she asks, she doesn' t, so who is she? No, 33 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:30.919 well, first of all, I' m a person, I' 34 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:36.159 m a woman, and I' m a woman who has a lot of 35 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:42.759 nuances because I' m a daughter, but I' m a wife, 36 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:43.599 I' m a mother, I' m a friend, I' m 37 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:43.599 a colleague and I' m someone who' s passionate about what it does. 38 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.120 It has its strengths, but it also has its weaknesses. Yes, 39 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:52.840 he has dreams. And I think the most important part of me is that 40 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.800 every day you learn, every day you learn something new and that' s 41 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:00.879 what life is for. And with this, then, it takes me that 42 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:03.919 part of giving something, not giving something to others, which is always the 43 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:11.159 part that worries me a lot. He hears in this integral part that you 44 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:16.079 are woman, mother, wife, daughter, No, obviously, because there 45 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:21.480 are many processes that one goes through in life and are processes of different kinds. 46 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:24.879 Isn' t it the same to be a son, as to be 47 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:28.560 a wife? Isn' t it the same to be a wife as being 48 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.199 a mother? It doesn' t seem like it' s a simple thing. 49 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:35.560 However, each facet and area of our lives carries its own speed, 50 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:43.920 its own intensity, its own formation and also, of course, its own 51 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:53.279 goodness, vicissitudes, problems, conflicts, etcetera. How you combine everything, 52 00:04:53.959 --> 00:05:00.800 it' s easy to reconcile, how you divide work with family, with 53 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.480 the problems you hear, how you do it. Well, it' s 54 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.439 not easy, Luis, or it' s not easy. The truth and 55 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:13.600 I think that many colleagues who may listen to me or who share this profession, 56 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:17.600 we do have to try to balance. But there are also ten good 57 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:19.600 ones and there are bad days, and that' s what happens to me. 58 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:21.759 There' s gonna be good days, there' s gonna be bad 59 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:27.879 days. But I always think we have to try to live the moment. 60 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.839 That is to say, from such an hour to such an hour I have 61 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:35.600 my psychologist or therapist' s shirt in this situation and such at such an 62 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:40.160 hour I am the mother and such at such an hour I am the couple 63 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:41.920 and such at such an hour, for I am the friend. Not then 64 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.759 do I think we have to live in the moment, live in the present 65 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.199 and what we are living in the present is where we have to focus. 66 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:54.959 But it is also not easy to see it this way. And so let 67 00:05:55.040 --> 00:06:00.759 ' s say that I also have my accompaniments and my support because I am 68 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:04.879 not able to do that is my motto, that I always have it and 69 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:10.800 that I live it from my experience and of course, there are also days 70 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:14.519 that speak it does not feel good there are moments that bring crises, there 71 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.279 are also no difficulties and conflicts. And because I also have my accompaniments, 72 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:23.319 I also have my processes. I think we have to be that part of 73 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:29.519 accepting ourselves as humans, being humble also when we need that strength of the 74 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.680 other. And that' s what I' m kind of trying to balance. 75 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.199 There' s no meme. I don' t know if you' 76 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:39.720 ve seen it and if I don' t invite you to see it that 77 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:44.000 it' s so good, that it says how it' s possible for 78 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:47.399 you psychologists to suffer no longer see your notes, don' t review your 79 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:48.160 notes and ready as if it were all so easy and simple. Now what 80 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:56.360 is true. I' ve heard from some therapists that you can' t 81 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.680 give therapy, for example, your best friend, your best friend, you 82 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:01.199 can' t give your husband' s aunt, you can' t give 83 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:04.639 therapy to your children because, obviously, there' s an emotional attachment. 84 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:10.079 No, and that' s where an interesting topic comes in, attachment, 85 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:15.199 which sometimes becomes stigmatized. No one should have attachment. I have no one 86 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:19.759 ' s fart, but the truth is that we all have and must have 87 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:24.519 an attachment, because if not, then the relationship father, children, couple, 88 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.839 etcetera, because it would not be good. It also depends on the 89 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:32.319 intensity of attachment and how healthy or healthy the ape and relationship are. Here 90 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:39.279 the question is it' s ever happened to you with your partner, with 91 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:44.600 your kids, with your dads, you suddenly say mmmm. Yeah. I 92 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:48.959 detected this one has a no. M detected this one has no? And 93 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:54.199 that little girl' s relationships aren' t and you have to keep quiet. 94 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.639 How do you handle that if you mean? Of course he does, 95 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.360 but he does I mean? And that' s also the idea from as 96 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.040 therapists or as these psychopsychologists, because heretics, I don' t mean, 97 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.560 I do get on paper because you said it' s very important. So 98 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.480 if you' re a psychologist, because you can be the perfect mom, 99 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:20.720 you can be the perfect thing, too. And I don' t mean 100 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:22.759 I take off my shirt and I' m the ale with her difficulties. 101 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.040 I hold on to the husband, too. I' m taking the kid 102 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.879 too, that is, yes, my crazy friend. Imagine driving me crazy 103 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.399 being the twenty- four- seven psychologist, because it' s hard. 104 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:39.960 Of course, yes, what I have learned and my theory and training help 105 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:46.519 me to see red lights or to detect things. But I' m gonna 106 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:48.120 be my dad' s and my mom' s daughter and I' m 107 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.519 not gonna be the psychologist, no, of course, and I' m 108 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:52.720 gonna be the friend no. I mean, I' m talking to my 109 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.679 friend and my friend is going to be the transparent person and I, for 110 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:03.039 example, suddenly is a saying no. If my friend is getting a divorce, 111 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:05.159 I' m going to go and I' m going to tell you 112 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.840 both we' re going to hlinch the husband, we' re not going 113 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:11.519 to leave my support, of course because I' m not going to do 114 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.159 it at that time. The psychologist, however, yes, of course, 115 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:20.720 I will see things, I will feel things and of course I will speak 116 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.399 to them, but from my voice, from my forest, I am the 117 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.320 person, no, the psychologist. No, and there are moments that, 118 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:33.120 suddenly you see something and you say ay So this is happening, but maybe 119 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.360 at that time I' m not going to tell the familiar familiar person, 120 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.039 very close, and maybe at another time I can tell her, but like 121 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:46.320 the friend, like the daughter, like the sister, but always taking care 122 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:54.279 not to combine yes, the therapist with the person I' m carrying right 123 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:00.679 now. No. Okay, hey, it' s really interesting about psychology, 124 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.120 because I think at the end of the way is, well, the 125 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:11.559 ways we really share, the way we all relate. And, well, 126 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:15.360 this is very interesting. And I don' t know if you had the 127 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:22.519 chance. I imagine you would see a movie called Analyze me with Robert de 128 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.440 Niro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot, I hadn 129 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:30.720 ' t done it long ago, but I did see some parts and then 130 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.279 Robert de Niro. Not sure, of course that Robert de Niro and that 131 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.200 he is the psychologist of a mob boss, and well, they make him 132 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.799 pass some things, because the boss calls him here every morning at night. 133 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:46.080 It is true that you psychologists and more you who have a master' s 134 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.919 degree there that you serve children, young people, adults, couples, etcetera 135 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:56.279 in a different way. Yeah, it' s this part of immediate crisis 136 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.639 care for any of your patients. Yeah, just, for example, in 137 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.600 that movie, like the movie, because the problem is that it was played 138 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:11.399 with a hood. Not that we' re talking about a psychopathic structure. 139 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.080 Not then, and because I really saw Robert De Niro and the little god 140 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:16.639 of my life that something like that didn' t come to me. Not 141 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.559 because if they put you in a situation and if you watch the movie, 142 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:26.360 it puts you in a situation, as a professional, what do I do, 143 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:33.000 because it is no longer the therapist and the patient already, but it 144 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:33.519 is the patient who, because of his psychopathy, is dominating the therapist. 145 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.960 And there, all of a sudden, the therapist is at risk. Not 146 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:43.600 in my case, from my profession and from my experience, I have been 147 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:48.440 touched by patients because we see in the clinical setting, we see psychiatric patients. 148 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.159 They' re not all, all of a sudden. There are cases 149 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:58.559 that are psychiatric patients that are suddenly, if you have to be ready, 150 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:03.120 if you have to be seen on your cell phone, just in case they 151 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:05.080 call because you are in a crisis. I' ll open you up I 152 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.399 ' m talking about young people who have suicide attempts. I' m talking 153 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.679 about psychotics, people who are psychotic like schizophrenia, for example, in this 154 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:18.679 case they can suddenly have buds and maybe the relative calls you. In fact, 155 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:24.480 I work together with psychiatrists and together we work with these patients and in 156 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:26.679 a certain way, we both work on whether they either talk to me or 157 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.519 talk to him, and we are accompanying the patient. Usually, it' 158 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.440 s not always because we' re dealing with this, not by whole team. 159 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:41.039 We work with the patient to prevent these outbreaks or these crises. But 160 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.080 of course you can suddenly vote for something, but it' s not always. 161 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:50.360 Not about the movie. If it' s an extreme or I think 162 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:56.240 Robert Noo had to call because if name disappears to the poor none. I 163 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.440 haven' t been touched by those cases. I hope it doesn' t 164 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:05.679 touch me because there is a capo and more because in our country that is 165 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.600 and I think that the film implements that is not that they are sensitive cases 166 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:18.200 and we have to deal with it. The therapists don' t tell me 167 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.919 something you' ve detected. You, as a professional in your area, 168 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:28.039 as recurring cases, don' t tell me names Evidently, don' t 169 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.919 tell me situations so that no one will feel identified. But the question makes 170 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:37.480 sense in this. You think that, for example, children have a tendency 171 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.919 to feel abandoned or to feel alone by parents, which perhaps has now become 172 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:48.000 fashionable in adults, that everything we don' t like about our partner we 173 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:54.480 call toxic, or now it' s very fashionable. The narcissistic theme. 174 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.440 Ah, he' s a narcissist. However, when you find yourself a 175 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:07.960 narcissistic person has very well defined characteristics and to qualify as a narcissist you do 176 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.679 not have to meet these characteristics. But the question is focused on this. 177 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.399 What are the largest cases in children, the largest cases that are young and 178 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:20.360 the largest cases in adults, whether they are coupled or single, loneliness, 179 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:26.799 suicide, children, perhaps they also feel alone at a very early age. 180 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:33.320 We talked a little bit in a general way. Yeah, sure, Luis, 181 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.600 well, look not at anything. I had this specialty, because a 182 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.600 lot of people think I just see moms. No. Or I get men 183 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.600 to my office and tell them because I' m not a woman. I 184 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.519 don' t have the female productive device you can take care of and I 185 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:52.360 can of course take care of them, because if you realize my specialty, 186 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.320 it has to do with all my patients thanks to my specialty. I' 187 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.200 m sorry I' m gonna interrupt you a lot of times, not go 188 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.799 ahead. Sure, sure, sure, I can take care of you and 189 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:09.080 you say it without crying. No, no, don' t walk him 190 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.320 yes, that' s right, but yes, I mean, because my 191 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:18.559 specialty, if you realize the origin of who we are as people, men, 192 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:24.039 women x gender, has to do from our first ties, from our 193 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:30.399 childhood, from our family dynamics. So in that part, that' s 194 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.440 why I work in children, adults and teenagers. Not then in the question 195 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.039 you tell me goes hand in hand with what I' m talking to you 196 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.200 about, because when lately the children I' ve handled. Or I' 197 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:46.159 ve seen in the consultation cases. There are many children who are exhibiting a 198 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.879 lot of aggressiveness, a lot of lack of adaptation to schools, rules, 199 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:56.039 standards, low tolerance, frustration and that generates a lot of anxiety. Yeah, 200 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:02.159 so I' m getting it from a lot of kids. Not like 201 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.759 that, but everything goes the same way. What happens good is that we 202 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:11.559 are currently going through a public health situation that has to see that there are 203 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:18.279 insecure parents, parents with fears, parents that, in a way you know 204 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:22.080 society right now, how it is where Mom and Dad have to work, 205 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.039 or Mom and Dad also have situations that today we are going to talk to 206 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:32.200 adults and everything is related, because they are people that parents who suddenly don 207 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.600 ' t know how to accompany their child and their child are going down. 208 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:41.519 Torense frustration, for boundary problems, because they see insecure parents, parents in 209 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:47.080 fear, and that makes the child more anxious than he should have. They 210 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:52.039 have low tolerance of frustration and cannot adapt to society, as in this case 211 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.879 schools. No. This is what happens with children, with children, with 212 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:03.360 young people. How do you findtrans how the case is or young people are 213 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:06.920 currently living and I do not tell you, I say it several also specialists. 214 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.680 We' re seeing a lot of young people with depression, a lot 215 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:17.559 of depression. We' re seeing young people we' ve been with since 216 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.039 we were eleven twelve years old, that is. We are seeing young depressive 217 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:26.720 people, because young people who feel a lot of pressure in their society, 218 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:32.000 feel pressured by what we are living through social networks. And so, yes, 219 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:37.480 these parents who are living with insecurities, parents who are also bringing things, 220 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.079 because there are children who do not feel understood, who do not feel 221 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:47.720 understood and, in fact, because adolescence is very difficult, then add more 222 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:51.279 to what they are living around teenagers, because that is what they are going 223 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:57.240 through. And so we' re having adults with a lot of chronic anxiety, 224 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:03.200 with a lot of chronic depression, and this makes them suddenly dependent. 225 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.559 If there are many toxic relationships that are related by how adults are feeling today 226 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.799 and if you realize it, everything has a thread. Everything has a thread 227 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:18.200 from childhood to adulthood. And it seems like it becomes a vicious circle. 228 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:22.720 Not instead of someone breaking this circle. We seem to feed him more and 229 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:29.160 feed him more. I remember in my childhood and part of my youth, 230 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.119 I was silenced, my mouth turned, I didn' t mean I said 231 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.480 something like that and I was bursting in my mouth. Not today, children 232 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.960 are therefore, no, and they are called the generation of crystal. Don 233 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:45.880 ' t touch it. No better take him to the psychologist. However, 234 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.599 I think it is very easy to download into you, from the professionals, 235 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:55.480 the responsibility that must be at home, the responsibility that must also be in 236 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:59.519 the schools, because then everything becomes a ping pong me or school made you 237 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.279 the little ball because your dads must educate them. Oh, yeah, but 238 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:07.359 your school should give them the right, healthy information. Oh no, but 239 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:11.200 then it' s your dad, ah, well, but then I turn 240 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:15.960 around and your psychologist must try what I don' t know how to treat 241 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.480 and then I wash my hands. No, I don' t know and 242 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:22.079 there you go and then I think it' s a very comfortable, but 243 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:25.599 very risky attitude. No yes, of course, and if you also realize 244 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:30.480 if you see dads who are insecure or, for example, in the networks, 245 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.720 how much information there is. Yeah, but sometimes I worry because there 246 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:38.119 ' s a lot of information. They' re not professional and parents see 247 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:42.559 that information. I mean, like you say. You' re seeing a 248 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.480 generation of crystal that truth. I wouldn' t like to tag, that 249 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:51.599 is, because sometimes with tagging we' re holding the person responsible, but 250 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:55.920 we' re realizing what' s behind it, that is, if there 251 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:00.359 are young people or children of glass is, because you' re happening back 252 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.240 with these eyes or these children. What happened to these parents who had that 253 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.720 responsibility to form the identity of these young people, What happened to society. 254 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.799 Yes, because society is also part of all this. I don' t 255 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.920 think we' re a team. We' re a team where everyone has 256 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:21.359 to do their champagne, but of course, dads have to do their chamba. 257 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:26.319 But sometimes there are dads who feel lonely or confused dads, insecure dads 258 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:33.880 who suddenly get lost. But of course, we see right now a generation 259 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:38.359 yes, I don' t mean glass, but a very sick generation. 260 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:44.759 There is a lot of illness and I speak from emotions, from thoughts, 261 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.519 because since children we are not doing or we are not helping a structure, 262 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:56.519 an individuation structure, a security structure, an independence structure. Yes, why, 263 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.880 because the adults who are training the children also bring us many wounds and 264 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:07.160 those wounds that we have not worked, because we are projecting it to these 265 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.440 young people of the future. So, yeah, it' s a thread, 266 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:14.640 it' s a chain. But sometimes I say I' m good, 267 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:19.000 because it' s good that they look for us, perfect that they 268 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.039 look for us to be able to raise awareness of that part. I think 269 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.480 right now, yes, this part has been opened. As you hear, 270 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.279 I' m going to find the psychologist. Today I' m going to 271 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.440 find the psychiatrist, that that from my role or from my profession, is 272 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.759 what we' ve worked a lot. Is that already the psychologist, already 273 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.599 the therapist, already the psychiatrist, see us like any doctor, the doctor 274 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.960 that I have a flu, because I go with the doctor, well, 275 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:51.160 I have a depression, I go with the psychologist, I go with the 276 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:53.279 psychiatrist, because it is part of my health. Not then, good. 277 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:57.559 Even that, because you said it is very important, because if they come 278 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:02.000 with the psychologist, then it is good that they go with the psychologist, 279 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:07.119 so that we can raise awareness of that, inform the parents and accompany them. 280 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.079 In fact, since my work, I work that part, I work 281 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.960 with the parents, but I also work with the schools and I am let 282 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:22.599 ' s say the connection of them two and we' re working together for 283 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:26.160 those children, for those teenagers. Hey, I was listening to you right 284 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.839 now, it came to my mind. This is precisely what this Kear team, 285 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:37.920 this comprehensive clinic, goes directly even to motherhood. It' s not 286 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:44.039 like we' re going to take care of the mom, because obviously, 287 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.440 the mom' s already transmitting feelings to me, fears of anguish, worry. 288 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:55.680 And then, evidently, there are n number of possibilities that if he 289 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:57.200 left her, that if he did not leave her, that if there is 290 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.720 some aggression, that if the child is desired, that if it is not 291 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:07.200 desired And that, obviously, directly and indirectly impacts the child, either in 292 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:08.839 a physical, emotional, spiritual way. What do I know And then, 293 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:14.240 you too are going a step back. It' s not like we' 294 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.119 re not expecting the kids. Let' s talk to mom, let' 295 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:22.319 s start helping her, understand what this process is. Because there are certain 296 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:27.279 things that no one explained to us, no one who is wild. We 297 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:32.880 ' re just like wild animals. No one explained how to be parents. 298 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.720 No one explained to us how good it is more. When a child is 299 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:40.359 born, you know I' ll eat it. One weasel says don' 300 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:41.359 t turn it around and the other one says man, yeah, turn it 301 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:44.160 around. The other one says. Hit him on the back, no. 302 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:45.359 No. No, not on his back, not because his ribs are broken. 303 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.039 Hit him in the pomps, not the sterns, not because then he 304 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.759 walks and throws some awful punches. Not then, obviously, everyone talks about 305 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:56.960 how the party goes, but there is no education or at least there was 306 00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:03.000 no education of its own. You, too, in the integral team, 307 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.559 in the integral clinic, in the kir team do not mean, work, 308 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:12.720 also strive to re- educate parents, children, young people and adults. 309 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:18.920 No, yeah, that' s all that stuff you said, that' 310 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:22.839 s the goal we have as a clinic. Not that I am part of 311 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.720 this team, because there, as I had told you, when we were 312 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:32.519 there chatting, that is, we have a pediatrician, we have gynaecologists, 313 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:37.559 we have the biological reproduction specialist that we work together, for example, also 314 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:42.640 a very important part currently our society is evolving. Yes, and that is 315 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:48.039 what we have discussed in many parts and in many places, that is, 316 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:56.720 there is already late motherhood, so there are currently many patients in the reproduction 317 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.519 processes, because there are mothers who want to be mothers after the age of 318 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.519 thirty- five. And because we have to do that process, because right 319 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.880 now, technology is going to live by the hour and of course, suddenly, 320 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:14.359 a fertility process is very complicated. And if the doctor sees or the 321 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.440 specialist, he sees that there are moms who are already suffering anxiety, depressions, 322 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.079 because that' s when today we work together, I, from the 323 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.039 beginning, work with these moms when they have their kids, that is, 324 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:33.079 if you' re a mom who had normal processes, we' re not 325 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:37.000 having depression with post barto we have said because, like you said, there 326 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:37.200 ' s no rule to be a mom and we get all the same fears. 327 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.559 Now, imagine a mom who' s going through a fertility process that 328 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:47.440 that baby wanted so badly and when they have it in their hands, she 329 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:52.359 realizes the reality of things and all the emotional rolls come out. Then imagine 330 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:59.240 from the beginning working with these moms, preventing yes, this mental health of 331 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:03.519 diseases, preventing them so that these moms are healthy, being accompanied, because 332 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:08.319 we are going to be strong moms, safe moms to generate strong children and 333 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:12.839 safe children. Not if these children come with the pediatrician and these children are 334 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:18.799 suddenly showing us that there is something emotional more than something biological, because we 335 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:25.920 channel it in this part of the psychologist now and we realize that there are 336 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.839 emotional things because they bring this family dragging several situations, because it is never 337 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.920 too late. We' re working and we' re accompanying these people. 338 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:38.960 So of course, that is the idea of the integral part, of integrating 339 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:45.440 us all and of all being a team to be able to accompany these families 340 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.200 and achieve the integral health of all the technology. It has been mentioned for 341 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:55.799 a while that technology obviously plays an important role. It has gone a long 342 00:26:55.880 --> 00:27:03.200 way, if you will remember before, for to see al al al al 343 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:07.720 al al al the product you had to take out some studies and as they 344 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.240 came out suddenly they printed them in leaves not and suddenly you saw it and 345 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:12.720 you said, because that spot, that is your baby. No. Then 346 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:19.000 we started to see how. Don' t I remember the studies that this 347 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.920 one is doing to see the al al al al ababy? The man' 348 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:27.480 s gone. But now they look very sharp. Now they look like photographs. 349 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.599 Now they look color, now they look already. Well, they don 350 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.480 ' t print on three d I stayed there not that you already print on 351 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.960 three d there to the baby? However, there must be brutal technology by 352 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:45.160 now. How technology plays, for and against you, psychologists, you, 353 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:49.039 therapists, how it plays, because I also imagine that now we are all 354 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:57.039 hyperconnected, but hyper dispersed. Technology has come to unite and take down families. 355 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:04.839 I think technology has also come to really show what the person is like. 356 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.000 There are people who say no to social media came to divide families. 357 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:17.319 I think social media only exposed who you are. If someone doesn' t 358 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.079 pay attention, you won' t put it on social media or without social 359 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.279 media. How it affects and benefits technology. My dear ale then look into 360 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.319 my opinion and I tell you from the professional side. I think technology is 361 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.519 going to be good or bad depending on how the USS. Yeah, that 362 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.920 ' s the part and the prime and key part, because I think that 363 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:42.319 as technology, as human beings, we' ve evolved a lot and I 364 00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.559 think we' ve had a lot of opportunities from that part. For example, 365 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:49.519 right now with you how, since you' re in love, you 366 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:52.519 ' re in love, right? I believe there and I am from Obregón 367 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:57.119 city and we are doing this and we are going to transmit it to several 368 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:03.160 people, since I work with several colleagues from Mexico and also work with Chile, 369 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.680 with Argentino, that is. Technology can bring us together a lot, 370 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.160 but we can get a lot of juice out of this. The problem is 371 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:17.079 how we use it and how we educate our young people, because I think 372 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.079 there' s a lot of education missing. In other words, people must 373 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.559 be educated, young people must be educated. It' s going to make 374 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.599 good use of technology. The problem is that we are not reporting, we 375 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:32.240 are not educating and there are many young people and children who are alone. 376 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:37.599 Yeah, or that we think about how adults give him the iPad, let 377 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:42.319 him have his cell phone and distract him a little while I take a break, 378 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:47.359 while I do what I have to do, or that the kid doesn 379 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:51.279 ' t give up, but the kid' s gonna be with his cell 380 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.960 phones, he' s gonna be with his dad unsupervised and he' s 381 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:59.960 gonna be learning. How to move it, how to handle it, yes, 382 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.400 but without knowing what it is doing and without education. So I think, 383 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.880 in my opinion, technology is not bad. The problem is how we 384 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:14.519 are using it and how we need to educate young people of the future to 385 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.720 make good use of it, but good productive use, good positive and transcendental 386 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:27.400 use. Let' s not go with the experts now. I know, 387 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:37.279 I' ve seen I know first- hand people who take a course on 388 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:44.559 YouTube and already feel like coaches to people who call themselves psychologists because they spent 389 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:45.880 a semester of psychology. So, I know a person who was said to 390 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:52.680 be a psychologist to her because seen from a semester of psychology and I can 391 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:59.519 mention many chaotic cases. First, ask yourself the knowledge of a psychologist, 392 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:07.200 study, preparation is important. And the second question would be how it is 393 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:17.319 possible that society does not review profiles, it does not. Don' t 394 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:18.519 check to see if he' s sorry to ask. Hey, you got 395 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.200 a degree, hey, where' s your diploma? Hey, he' 396 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.559 s got a card. Hey, this one' s an expert, right? 397 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.279 Who' s the one who' s backing you, what a high 398 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.839 school you' re giving us. The first question would be what your opinion 399 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.480 is about this type of semicoaches. Semi psychologists, semipsychologists who no longer brown 400 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:42.880 the pill. And second of all, and they think they' re hurtful, 401 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.400 they think they' re right. And second of all, how can 402 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:51.480 you tell? It' s valid to ask your psychologist as a patient. 403 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.039 Hey, show me your credentials or not, yeah, because look you talked 404 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.359 about a very delicate topic and that, because it' s a current topic 405 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:01.880 and it' s reality, you' re absolutely right. You know a 406 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.079 lot of people. I also know several and yes, it is a very 407 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:12.200 delicate topic, because mental health is not played And it is not to be 408 00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.240 seen in a semester, it is not to be seen a course of nine 409 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:21.839 months, It is not for and it is very important also to differentiate what 410 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:27.000 a coach is, to what is a psychologist and what is a psychotherapist a 411 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:31.680 clinical psychologist, not that it is three, are already after if they are 412 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:36.200 four very different things. A coach like that is a course, it' 413 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:40.039 s a course that is dedicated to that specific and the coach can advise clearly 414 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.200 that yes. The cosch can implement workshops, can implement trainings and advise or 415 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:50.759 accompany clearly that yes. But the subject he' s dealing with and it 416 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.799 ' s a subject that, in a way, is something superficial. Yes, 417 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:59.640 a general psychologist, because he works in a general way, as the 418 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:04.279 word says, to understand, the branches and areas of psychology, but he 419 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.480 still needs to specialize if he is going to dedicate himself to the part of 420 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:15.400 mental health, because it is something else, and to be a clinical psychologist 421 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:21.480 or psychotherapist is to work and is to study specifically what are mental disorders, 422 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:23.720 situations of mental crisis and all that the human being has. And not for 423 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.000 something. We' re in the medical area, too. I mean, 424 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.559 yeah, it' s a very complicated, very complex process for me to 425 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.680 be able to work with mental health. So yes, it' s very, 426 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.039 and it' s good that you talk about it so that the audience 427 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.559 knows and we become aware. It' s not to play with this, 428 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:47.960 because one is isophrenia, a psychotic outbreak, a chronic depression, a chronic 429 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.480 anxiety, it' s not played. It has to be a person prepared 430 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.319 to be able to work on that part. Sometimes, when I see that 431 00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:00.440 in nine months and already they are as psychotherapists and I said I at the 432 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:04.440 four years of the career, at the two years of the master' s 433 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.400 degree plus, the two years of specialty, that is, they count more 434 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.880 and not and add it up because, obviously, for example, a few 435 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.480 years ago they did not exist social networks. Now you have to be trained 436 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:20.800 and you have to understand how social networks work and then prepare to be able 437 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.639 to guide. And not only that comes technology. Now, with artificial intelligence, 438 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:30.000 I mean, you have to prepare. I think we' re 20 439 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.079 times more up- to- date. And I still have. I also 440 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:37.559 carry out my individual therapeutic process. I also have to carry out my therapeutic 441 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:43.519 process because I am a human being and apart, I have supervisions with a 442 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.039 psychotherapist who is my teacher, my tutor and who is specialized as a supervisor. 443 00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:51.159 For me to be able to have that ethics and work with my patients, 444 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:55.039 then, if they realize it. It' s not easy this and 445 00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.559 it' s not cosh in three months, nine months and I' m 446 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.960 already okay mental health patients, chronic, I mean, it' s not 447 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.639 a game. This and yes I don' t think it should. It 448 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:15.119 is an obligation as a psychotherapist that we have to show our title and our 449 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:21.360 professional card and not just our title, but also our specialty or our preparation 450 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.079 that we are either in that armchair or in that clinic or in that clinic 451 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:31.719 giving those services, because we have to show the patient that we are trained, 452 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:37.880 that we are professional and that we can support, because yes, the 453 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.880 human mind is very delicate, not also that they also charge what they charge, 454 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.960 that is, also in the economic part, because, obviously, today, 455 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.960 as we all say, because it is that my mechanic charges me cheaper, 456 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:57.079 not because it is operate, wait. We are talking about the life 457 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.800 of a human being, that is, in which, obviously, it is 458 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.400 also part of an investment, that is, if you want applause. And 459 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.239 batons, there' s a stream of people on the Internet telling you to 460 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.719 get up, get out of the mirror and I can, I can, 461 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.280 I can, I can, it' s done and you go out into 462 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:24.199 the street and I assure you that in the corner it' s neither done 463 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:29.639 nor used for two things, statements and affirmations. I think there are issues 464 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:35.039 that can work. However, if the advice of a professional is necessary, 465 00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.760 it is not studied, they are prepared for something. Now I want to 466 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:49.119 change the subject with you a little bit because, obviously, there are many 467 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:53.320 stigmas for you too. There are many signs for you therapists, sometimes agree, 468 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:59.159 and this is very important that you hear it from the audience according to 469 00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:05.639 the humanist current or the gestal current too, the Freudian current or the cube. 470 00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.679 I' m not an expert on the subject, obviously, and you 471 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:15.480 can see it, but what is it that, according to certain currents will 472 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:22.639 be therapies, because because many times one as a mortal goes to a psychologist 473 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.639 and if the psychologist does not explain it, they will live a very bad 474 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.400 experience. I' ll tell you something very fast. One day I went 475 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:35.239 to therapy and the terapeute stayed there and said to me ahead I talk about 476 00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.119 what you want to talk about There you have me, no, because I 477 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:45.880 like it on the beach and I don' t know what you imagine time 478 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:51.079 we see next Tuesday and next Tuesday this because I talk about what, because 479 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.039 of what you want already time is up. We' ll see each other 480 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:58.519 and that' s how he brought me not because he didn' t explain 481 00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:00.400 to me what his current was like. I think it' s also a 482 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.199 duty of you to tell your patients to see this. It' s short 483 00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.360 therapy, this is about asking you that, it' s about you talking. 484 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:13.320 This is about and this is the process, and maybe it will take 485 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:17.280 us three months, six months, two years, not for you to understand 486 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.559 that it' s a process. I' m right. That' s 487 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.239 right, you' re absolutely right and, in fact, right now you 488 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:30.920 were saying this. If you listen to me my patients are going to say 489 00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:35.360 ah the alesi is like that because yes it is sorry is that that' 490 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.360 s what we have to do, I mean, in fact, the first 491 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:44.000 consultation that a patient comes with you. Our work is the reason to consult. 492 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.639 The first session is called a reason for consultation and it' s that 493 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.360 part to first know the patient comes for what he' s coming for, 494 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:57.559 what' s his motive, why he brought it to you if he already 495 00:38:57.639 --> 00:38:58.880 had a history of therapy, why he comes with you. I mean, 496 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:04.639 that' s what we have to focus on and of course we also introduce 497 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.320 ourselves, because after that the therapeutic alliance is going to be made and the 498 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:13.280 patient has to know you, know who you are, know your formation, 499 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:15.199 know how your way of work is. And there it' s called the 500 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:21.159 framing, I mean, we make the framing so that the patient knows more 501 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.400 or less what it is, because there are patients who don' t even 502 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.119 know it' s a therapeutic process. Then you explain to him, you 503 00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:31.639 make the frame and from there the therapeutic alliance is already made. Yeah, 504 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:37.199 yeah, I understand those psychotherapeutic models that exist. There are many, because 505 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:44.039 every psychotherapeutic model has its branches. Yeah, but it' s important to 506 00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.519 the audience that they don' t think that because they go with a therapist 507 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.880 and that was the experience, for example, that you had. Don' 508 00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:55.480 t look for help anymore. You have to keep looking, because if every 509 00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.679 psychotherapeutic model has its shape, its style, there are also several. Why, 510 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:07.920 because patients are also several personalities. Then each patient will fit the psychotherapeutic 511 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:13.719 model, depending on what one is looking for and the personality each patient has. 512 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:20.239 But we too, as therapists, update ourselves, I mean, we 513 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.920 have to update each period, we have to keep getting ready, I mean, 514 00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:28.079 I' m not anything else. I studied four years and then two 515 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:32.239 years and then another two years, and every moment I have to update myself 516 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:38.000 to know what' s new, how we' re discovering things and how 517 00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.920 we have to accompany the patient. So I think that in this part, 518 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.559 as psychologists, we do have to give a consultation, which is the reason 519 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:52.000 for consultation the framing, to inform the patient and accompany him. But if 520 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:58.280 you or the audience ran into someone who, because he felt insecure, never 521 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:02.239 again j s number one ask him, that is you can also tell him 522 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.239 I thought this, I was hoping that that' s exactly what he was 523 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.639 going to do. The next question is the subject of the patient' s 524 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.159 expectation, because suddenly you as a patient come and say and where is the 525 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:21.280 armchair you already know the typical if where they colo There are no followed here 526 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.599 or suddenly others that you see there the box of CLINICX and you say oh 527 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:29.840 that they will ask me or what I will say others that carry the expectation 528 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.679 poorly focused. Not to say I' m going to ask my psychologist what 529 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.559 to do if I divorce or not. It' s not that it' 530 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.559 s not gonna solve you, or you' re not gonna solve it. 531 00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:45.079 You' re going to be able to find tools to solve your problems and 532 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:51.320 your issues. So, obviously, you too as specialists, because you have 533 00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:58.760 that against the expectation of the patient. No Now the subject of short therapies 534 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:04.079 has become very fashionable as well. No, and then there are therapists that 535 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.239 tell you. I give short therapy. The maximum is six therapies and you 536 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:15.679 go out because you don' t and I think also to give guarantees of 537 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.440 a mental process. I think it' s very reckless, I mean, 538 00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.760 with six sessions you' re ready. I mean, seriously, it' 539 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:29.480 s all down to six sessions. My dear ale, then, look at 540 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:35.119 everyone, not everyone. If you get a psychologist who handles that, he 541 00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:39.159 ' ll tell you that, in my opinion and from my background, depending, 542 00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:43.719 for example, if you' re going to handle a crisis or you 543 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.679 ' re going to bring a crisis, because if it' s short and 544 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:47.440 maybe it' s six sessions, but you' re calming that crisis. 545 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.320 Yeah, but I, from the clinical approach, I mean, and from 546 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:57.760 the psychopathology part, I have to see yes, in six sessions I calm 547 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:00.119 that crisis, but what is it like to be happened, what happened after? 548 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:06.360 Yes, i e, what was the path and if that crisis was 549 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.760 repeated several years ago, or if this crisis was the vessel that overflowed from 550 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:14.880 what the patient was carrying, i e, I, from my role and 551 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:19.239 from what I do with my patients, I want to get my patient to 552 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.360 learn and understand what happened in him and that a crisis or reason for consultation 553 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:29.440 that comes my patient has a history back, has a background and when that 554 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:35.159 patient manages to understand the origin and manages to understand that maybe in his childhood 555 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.519 he had very different perspectives than now, or he thought that he was carrying 556 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:45.199 a lot of blame and he wasn' t touched. That' s where 557 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:50.599 healing is achieved. So I, six months, you' re talking to 558 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:52.719 me that it' s a month and a half, four or not four. 559 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.639 Yeah, a month and a half. You' re telling me the 560 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.960 minimum for the patient to get into consciousness, minimum three months of what I 561 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:07.280 work. Yeah, yeah. I have many patients who have come to me 562 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:12.159 in three months and manage to understand and understand and that achieves the healing of 563 00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.679 what I work. But yes, in six months I' ll calm you 564 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.920 down, but he' s learning. The patient is getting to understand what 565 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.360 happened and that takes more. I don' t love talking to you. 566 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:27.800 Thank you for all the information you' ve given us, because I think 567 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.639 it' s very useful and it was necessary to talk about this, because 568 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.400 everyone does talk about currents, if you talk about principles, if you talk 569 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:37.480 about techniques, tactics. But I think it was important to talk about this. 570 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:43.800 And now it' s my turn because I really love psychology. If 571 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.639 I could go to school right now, at this age of psychology, because 572 00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:53.119 I think it' s exciting. But I' d love to be here 573 00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:57.079 now on what a good question. There are no good answers or bad answers, 574 00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.760 and there' s a stream of questions, so let' s go 575 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.960 with different questions. They don' t carry an order, but I would 576 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.800 love to make them for you to know how you think, how you feel, 577 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.039 about certain aspects and certain issues you are. You did realize that even 578 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:15.800 I grabbed it, I settled in good to avenge it. We' re 579 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:19.880 gonna start from scratch to over and I' d love you to tell me. 580 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:25.320 Please. It has three dishes that are prepared with Chile. With Chile, 581 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:32.159 three dishes, yes, chila aquiles, ok or sole yes, yes, 582 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:38.320 wonderful achiladas. Tell me three things you can do very well with your 583 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:45.599 fingers, with your fingers I like to paint ok I read without seeing the 584 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:51.519 keyboard if it deserves those smokes. And it' s also a rake cell 585 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:59.079 phone. Tell me, please, three phone brands, cell phone the movista 586 00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:07.440 cer and in you very good. Tell me, please, three things that 587 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:17.360 can improve eyesight in a human being. The glasses, don' t watch 588 00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.639 the screens for long and get to really good veña drops. All right. 589 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:29.400 Hey, tell us, please. How you are with the wait you prefer 590 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:38.239 what you would always expect to find a parking place or never queue anywhere, 591 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:45.960 what you would always prefer to find a place to park wherever you went or 592 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:52.199 never have to wait in a row, in a queue, no, because 593 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:57.239 I found the parking lot to get there on time. As you are patient, 594 00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.119 as you are with waiting, you are patient, no, you are 595 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:04.000 not patient. When you go to the bank and there are a lot of 596 00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.320 people that you do, you start reading to see the phone or what you 597 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.760 do, yes, that is, it depends not if suddenly I' m 598 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:14.199 eating time, because if not, as a human being, you are upset 599 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:15.960 by the tolerance of frustration. But I do mean, when there' s 600 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.840 a lot of people. I get to read, I get to see my 601 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.840 cell phone, or I' m seeing people like they' re my breathing 602 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:30.679 moments. Great, you prefer cold or heat. The cold would rather be 603 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:35.639 on the mountain or on the beach. What do you prefer on the beach, 604 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:44.000 Which do you prefer Coca Quela or PEPSI Coca Quela, yes or yes 605 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:50.079 coffee You would prefer check the question. You' d rather understand and fuck 606 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:55.840 up all the lies people tell you or people believe all the lies you suddenly 607 00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:01.920 say they don' t understand and throw mints that people tell me. Which 608 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:09.400 you prefer to fly or be invisible, fly, exercise outdoors or in gym, 609 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.159 do not exercise to the lient idea charm, ok. That' s 610 00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.719 a very good question. I think it' s very, very obvious. 611 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:24.400 Which you prefer meat or chicken meat. Of course, there my God what 612 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:30.280 a wonderful thing he hears now we go with questions of yes or no. 613 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:36.239 Okay, they' re very quick questions and the idea is to have fun 614 00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.559 and spend our lives here Okay. You' re happy, yes, you 615 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:45.119 think there' s life on other planets. Yeah, you did the homework, 616 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:52.920 yeah, you took the trash out, yeah, you' ve ever 617 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:59.360 hurt someone you love, yeah, yeah, you' ve betrayed forgiveness, 618 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:00.159 they' ve betrayed you, yeah, and they' ve betrayed me. 619 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:07.360 You have felt the happiness and fullness of life. Yeah, you can say 620 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:14.239 you' re happy, yeah, you like the red color, yeah, 621 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:19.960 yeah, yeah, I like you think in heaven there' s life after 622 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:25.159 death. Yeah, okay, you' d like to talk to an alien. 623 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:34.360 Oh, he does look good. Yeah. That' s the best 624 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.079 answer I' ve ever received. That' s the one. Imagine it 625 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:43.039 ' s someone or predatory, not man. Hey, get me in, 626 00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:47.639 please. Now how. When was the last time you sang for yourself, 627 00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:54.119 the last time you sang for You, not for me, yes, for 628 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:59.320 You it goes karaoke, because yes the charm for me in karaoke, yes 629 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:05.320 let' s say it was the last time you sang in public, not 630 00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:12.800 with people. How long ago that was a month ago How good to sing, 631 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:19.199 because I don' t know if I' m good, but I 632 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.679 love what your husband tells you. So ay hijita sings elsewhere, or yes, 633 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.599 suddenly if you' re surrounding and more than I know when she dedicated 634 00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:29.360 it to him, ufff can also be. He' s got this clade. 635 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:34.119 Listen and tell me, For example, at a party you prefer to 636 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.599 sit or you' re the one who dances all night. I really like 637 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:43.760 to dance you, I really like to dance Hey tell me, please, 638 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:49.119 the memory you have the most beautiful of your childhood, the most beautiful memory 639 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:53.599 of my childhood. Christmas. I loved it, I love it, but 640 00:50:54.559 --> 00:51:00.320 I love Christmas these days, but it' s because in my childhood my 641 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:07.599 dad was Christmas completely and family meetings, Christmas dinner, birth, all that 642 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:15.760 are the very beautiful memories that I have more you are better remembering data than 643 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:27.920 remembering images, because it is that I do remember both things, yes I 644 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.119 remember them, I mean, yes I remember data, yes, I remember 645 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:36.119 give you have very good memory. Tell us, please, and tell us 646 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:42.880 to know a little more ale when you' re sad, when you' 647 00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:49.760 re low, when you' re tired, how you get up, what 648 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:51.719 you do, what actions you take to raise your energy. You give yourself 649 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:57.960 a chance to cry, to lie down if you don' t want to 650 00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:01.760 know about the world or change the chip very quickly and get in action and 651 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:06.000 go ahead in busy minds. He doesn' t suffer, he hears how 652 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.199 good you say that part, because sometimes they tell us not as psychologists, 653 00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:10.440 that there is a psychologist he doesn' t feel or he doesn' t 654 00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.280 feel sadness. It' s not clear that I' m sad too. 655 00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.400 I also have problems, or there are family problems that hurt and what happened 656 00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:22.400 to me is that I can cry, I cry what sometimes I drive is 657 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:27.800 that I go to the shower and I take out all the crying here and 658 00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.440 I get up and I say everything is going to be okay and I' 659 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.960 m going to get ahead. And if I start looking for a solution or 660 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.840 join another person who is my trust and is my pillar, we move on. 661 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:45.079 I feel sadness, sometimes clear, sometimes I feel pain, but I 662 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.280 ' m not alone. That' s the important part. I' m 663 00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:55.199 very motivated by the other people Tell us if you' re Picnick' s 664 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:57.239 day or not and the games start to go together. You know that all 665 00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.519 of a sudden football, that volleyball and games that he pulls and jumps the 666 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:07.480 rope what game you say son we' re going to play this game because 667 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.639 you know you' re going to win and that you' ve always won 668 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:16.199 in that game. You have some game already identified or not, because the 669 00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:20.480 ones I' ve won. That' s how I won the sack, 670 00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:27.239 so he gave me everything for the whole, and Bollywool gave me all the 671 00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.519 way to the last ball. You' re gonna put the last one in. 672 00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:35.840 I throw Ahondeña very well hears and food. You like food, what 673 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:40.559 you like to eat the most. And the question would be if you had 674 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:47.239 to eat only two foods for six months. You can' t take everything 675 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:52.400 you want, but you can only eat two foods for six months. What 676 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:58.559 food you choose yes, for six months, I mean, I' m 677 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:04.800 not going to get me to eat that food for six You can' t 678 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:05.840 just eat those two that you choose, that is, by setting an example. 679 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:12.239 Only if I choose tacos and enchiladas only for six months. I' 680 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:16.440 m allowed to eat tacos and enchiladas. Ah ok ok ok then, but 681 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:22.079 I can combine, I can do it as I want truth, of course, 682 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:22.840 of course, yes, yes, yes, well, chicken. I 683 00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.320 can do a lot of ways. In six months. Yeah, and I 684 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:27.760 feel like I don' t. My uric acid' s gonna go up. 685 00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:32.000 Then the chicken, the chicken, the chicken and the tomato. I 686 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:36.960 really like the mother look I' m cool sure, you can do a 687 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.360 jet of things with that hears or the meat, but it' s going 688 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.960 to give me to be unique. Then I' ll talk to her. 689 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:52.280 How long you' ve lasted, not without being underneaded, without seeing a 690 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:57.159 problem, tell us how you talk, when you see yourself in the mirror, 691 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.199 how much you have identified. They' re the ones who really say 692 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:07.039 they have very special accounts. I haven' t smoked in six months, 693 00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.400 just like I haven' t smoked in six months. I haven' t 694 00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:15.199 been sad for six months, I haven' t done a damn thing for 695 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:21.000 eight months. You' ve identified him, this way or not. No. 696 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:22.559 I haven' t identified him, I mean, that' s what 697 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:23.880 I mean. I' m, I' m, I' m shades 698 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.800 of emotion. Sure, she' s not mad every day, no, 699 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:30.639 but once a week, of course I get angry good. I don' 700 00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:36.239 t know what my husband is living, no, but I mean, I 701 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.559 don' t have a pattern that lasts a long time, but a lot 702 00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.000 of nuances, so I don' t identify it. Okay, okay, 703 00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.280 that' s great. Hey, we' re getting to the final straight. 704 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:51.519 It' s been a delight to chat with you before we say goodbye 705 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:53.840 Let' s imagine you have to give a message to the whole planet earth. 706 00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:58.519 We' ve already been told that ale' s going to give a 707 00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:00.840 message. It will be translated into all or languages, dialects languages, will 708 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:07.400 be transmitted over the Internet, by radio, by satellite waves, smoke signals 709 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:13.840 from Toko for the whole planet. What would this message be, my dear? 710 00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:17.199 Ale well, it would be a message that I have learned a lot, 711 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:22.039 I have had a lot in me and I would like to share it 712 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:28.159 in public, that it would be for a long time and during our life 713 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.199 we have lived mandates that have told us what to do or that they have 714 00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:30.559 told us that that is the right thing to do. But the important thing 715 00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:35.079 here is that you listen to your heart. Always look for what you want, 716 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.360 what you love and what you dream and don' t be afraid to 717 00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:43.159 get it. Wow, what a wonder to remind us, please, of 718 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:46.760 your social networks. If someone wants to contact you, how can they find 719 00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:51.840 you, please, yes with pleasure, because on Instagram you can find me 720 00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.760 how to Groba, sik Al la espinola, so attached to the spinola. 721 00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.760 On Facebook you can find me as a sic ale pinula, but all separated. 722 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:06.400 And you also find me in Tiktok, where I am uploading more complete 723 00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:09.639 videos and is equal to Groba, sik Al spinola, everything is equal so 724 00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:15.119 you can find me. And so I' m here to serve you all 725 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:20.119 remember that if you can write with that forgiveness, you can write without t 726 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:23.239 and with P according to the real Academy of the language, but on the 727 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:34.639 social networks of ale it is with P as a psychologist, not without ass 728 00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:42.800 pinola, and also on Facebook sic a spinola and on Instagram sic a la 729 00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.239 espinola, so you can find it. There you go. I think the 730 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:50.960 best investment you' re going to make, regardless of whether you want to 731 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:55.880 buy a car, a mansion, whatever you want a hot air balloon. 732 00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.199 You can buy an island if you want. There' s an island that 733 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:02.360 ' s for sale for a billion dollars that I' ve already looked at. 734 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:05.320 I, I mean, not bad, I looked out because they don 735 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.079 ' t catch me. He stopped me a tree. No, but good. 736 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:13.639 Obviously, I think the best investment is in your own well- being. 737 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:22.239 Then contact ale Go to therapy. It' s a basic basket, 738 00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:37.199 they' re gonna feel better. That' s where we came back. 739 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:43.960 We' re also thirty- three years old, but here we are, 740 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:45.480 so really ale. Thank you very much. I embrace you with much affection, 741 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:51.920 I send you many blessings. Thank you for sharing with us and I 742 00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:57.159 see you all. I hear them in a next chapter of what a good 743 00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.239 question I am Luis Miguel Salgado. Good morning, good afternoon, good night 744 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.559 wherever you are. Ale many blessings for you, for your whole family, 745 00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:06.920 a pleasure goodbye to