WEBVTT 1 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:40.119 Happy Friday everyone. That weird time today kind of the end of the week, 2 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:43.119 but I think this will be good kind of news roundup here. I 3 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:46.759 know, another live episode here. I had really promised myself going to get 4 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:51.479 back on the horse start scheduling interviews. Luckily a lot of the new USFL 5 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.960 teams have old like XFL team PR people, so that's really great. But 6 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:57.920 we were out of town last week and they get back this week. Just 7 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.520 didn't have enough time. But I'm going to get some interview scheduled next week 8 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:06.159 and then a big time I think a big time here guests scheduled here potentially 9 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.400 a week after next. So if you're intrigued, like and subscribe here. 10 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.079 You know, if we hit thirty five hundred subscribers before we make the kick 11 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:15.799 off here at the end of the month, you could get two free tickets. 12 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.560 Otherwise maybe we'll do the championship game. But like and subscribe, become 13 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.040 a member, you know, hit join, join the community. I think 14 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:26.319 it's a dollar a month here. Greg, not that you are not a 15 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:29.319 big guest, you are also a big time guest, but this would be 16 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:30.599 exciting for both of us. So how are you doing? Great parks at 17 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:36.879 ufl board here. Yeah, look, I understand my role, so I 18 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.560 appreciate you having me on here on this Friday night live show where you'd always 19 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:44.159 love going live with you and hearing from the viewers and the questions that they 20 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.840 have and being able to address some of them and talk a little training camp. 21 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:51.280 It's great to see players with helmets on, and I think the pads 22 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:55.200 are going on tomorrow, so really excited about everything we're seeing in training camp. 23 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.920 Yeah, it's good. It's kind of a weird spot here because it's 24 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.040 like, Okay, I want to get Anthony Miller or on here maybe next 25 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.319 week or the week after, like when we're you know, is Anty gonna 26 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:06.680 go kind of see some drills. I know you've been in some press some 27 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:08.439 you know team head coaching with Skip Holtz and all that, and I know 28 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:12.319 Mike's been doing that in pat and everybody, so we'll get kind of the 29 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.120 reports. It's such a frustrating because like I'm watching a Mariner's pre you know, 30 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:19.879 spring training this week and like you know, brocking soccer down there and 31 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.719 they're interviewing them. I'm like, I wish, you know, if only 32 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:24.520 there was a time here maybe where I didn't work and I could be there. 33 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:28.599 We're doing training camp in the city, Like, I think that would 34 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:30.759 be another cool way to do it. But you know, we're getting a 35 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:35.039 lot of videos and stuff coming out. Do you feel are you whelmed overwhelmed 36 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:37.639 with the amount of content? Because I think they're working hard. I think 37 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:42.599 the team social people are working hard. Absolutely. And my spring break for 38 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:46.080 school just happens to coincide with uh not next week, but the week after, 39 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:50.439 And I thought, wouldn't it be cool to be able to go down 40 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:53.879 to Arlington for a few days and catch a few practices and talk to a 41 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:58.520 few coaches and things like that, you know, not knowing what the UFL 42 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:00.919 schedule is going to be like next year, we don't know if they're going 43 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:04.520 to start the same time. They could start back at the old XFL schedule, 44 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:06.680 and if that's the case, I would kind of have to take time 45 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.960 off, which is hard to do. So, you know, I it's 46 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:13.560 something I'm really considering. I don't know if it's gonna be worth it, 47 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:16.039 because I really don't know. I haven't heard from enough PR people to know 48 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:21.280 what kind of availability there is even to just watch practice to report on that 49 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.039 stuff. Or not. So that's something I'm gonna have to do some digging 50 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:28.039 on probably this weekend. But yeah, I think the content has been fantastic. 51 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:32.479 Look, I never had an Instagram until a few days ago because so 52 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:37.639 much of the content for the teams was being put on Instagram. They're putting 53 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.199 some stuff on Twitter, which obviously I have, but so much of it's 54 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:44.560 being put on Instagram that I felt like I was missing out, so I 55 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:46.599 signed up for Instagram. I haven't posted a thing, will not post a 56 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:51.479 thing probably, but I'm following all of the team accounts in the league account 57 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.360 just because there's just so much video, so many pictures being put out. 58 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:59.840 And you're right, I mean, you couldn't ask for anything more in terms 59 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:03.000 of the content that the social media managers and the like have been putting out 60 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:08.280 since the day the players reported to Arlington. So that's been really cool to 61 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:11.560 see. Yeah. No, you know, friend of the show and former 62 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:15.639 Hub member j Noaks running wild there. I know Leah's doing that. I 63 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.839 know some of the people from last year, you know, got moved on 64 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:23.800 to other things. But exciting for that we have here a Evan checking in 65 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:27.959 here evening chance Whe's I had the same street this Greg Shandson, Rob Parafino, 66 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.519 and yeah, I wore this old school curd angle from this angle, 67 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:32.879 you suck. I thought you would get a kick out of that. I 68 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.439 pulled this one out of the closet just for you, Greg. I love 69 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:39.279 it. If I'd have known, we should have coordinated. I have my 70 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.839 the mizz Hello I'm Awesome T shirt that I could have worn, and we 71 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:48.279 could have matched wrestling shirts. But instead I'm wearing this whole thing, so 72 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:53.279 well, you know, maybe next time. Yeah, I and I know 73 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:56.480 what you mean with the whole I would love to have like the residency down 74 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:00.399 there, Paul and I back. You know. I I think what we 75 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.319 didn't really know maybe the scope of how big or little this podcast would be. 76 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:04.279 Like, man, we could like, yeah, totally take a week 77 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:08.160 and go and do your live shows and all that. Like I don't know 78 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:12.079 if the viewership is there for that like to take off, like and you 79 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.319 know, and with with the freelance life to know all that, but I 80 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:15.519 do think that'd be cool. I mean, Arlington set up in a good 81 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:20.120 way, and I think that you know, even lat when when the Arlington 82 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:24.959 announcement back for the original XFL here last year and I went down there and 83 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.560 Danny and Russ, Brandon and everyone, and they said, you know, 84 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.800 having the teams together like that is going to allow us to generate a lot 85 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:32.720 of that stuff and then obviously when we go play in the cities, that 86 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:40.279 will translate over are you feeling how are you feeling just casual market wise here? 87 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.240 Things are progressing. We will talk football here, I promise, but 88 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.399 I just want to get some wide range, like, you know, is 89 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.040 this resonating now? Because I mean this is the month. I mean we're 90 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:55.120 twenty nine days away. I kind of feel like XFL twenty twenty three in 91 00:05:55.240 --> 00:06:00.240 terms of the marketing in the actual home cities. They're doing the these in 92 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:04.639 market sort of meeting greets with Moose Johnston there. Some of them have rouss 93 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:09.079 Brand and the head coaches. That's what XFL twenty twenty three did. And 94 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:13.399 you know you're not seeing the local press. I mean, if San Antonio, 95 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:16.879 for example, was practicing in San Antonio, you'd probably have a beat 96 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:20.519 writer coming up with stories every day because he'd be there at practice every day. 97 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:26.199 He'd be interviewing players after practice, coaches after practice, and he'd be 98 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:31.079 submitting them to the newspaper. The UFL simply does not warrant someone traveling even 99 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:35.680 from San Antonio to Arlington, let alone from Memphis or Detroit or anywhere else 100 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:41.199 to as you call it, kind of a residency in training camp, to 101 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:46.560 report on these things every day like you would if they were in the home 102 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:48.680 market. So I think that's really what they're missing out on. It's nice 103 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:51.720 that they're doing zoom interviews with the head coaches and things like that, but 104 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:57.079 you know, without having the boots on the ground in those markets at a 105 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.680 consistent basis, I do really think it's hurting. I see somebody mentioned Arlington's 106 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:04.639 event was very well attended. That's what it seemed to look like. You 107 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:10.079 know, Saint Louis's seemed to be there's just coming up. Actually, there's 108 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.680 another one recently that seemed like it was well attended. Maybe it was the 109 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:15.040 DC one one, yeah, or something like that. So you know, 110 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:20.040 these are markets d C and Saint Louis and to a lesser extent, Arlington 111 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:24.959 that have responded well to these teams in the past, so no surprise they're 112 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:29.199 doing well. But it's those other markets that, you know, the Houston 113 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:33.279 markets, the Memphis market, some of those places that may need a little 114 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:40.600 leg up to get to the fan response of some of their counterparts where I 115 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:44.720 think it might be really hurting not having them there. Yeah, I because 116 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:46.720 we had talked and that kind of spurred some of my discussions with some of 117 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.319 the team PR people this week that like, for example, the battle Hawks 118 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:55.759 very highly attended right media when they do the availability with coach back to whatever, 119 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:59.079 and like the Houston one was not. I think they had one person 120 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.240 I think, you know, on there terms of kind of getting that and 121 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.639 so it's it's hard and you know, like especially if you're Houston, you 122 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:07.040 had the team in twenty twenty, and then they went away and then it 123 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.839 was back, but it was then with the USFLVE and that was for the 124 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.040 XFL. It gets a little murky that way. And yeah, I've tried 125 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.720 to convey it as well. And again we you know, our i mean, 126 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.079 our target audience has kind of invested regardless. But I'm like, I 127 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:22.120 do think that it would be cool that we got to spread these coaches out 128 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.240 more. And they're busy now with training camp and people want to talk to 129 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.399 them, and there's always that balance of like, the time everybody wants to 130 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.200 talk to you is the busiest time where you. I understand you're doing the 131 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:33.840 football, but you need to be able to set aside some time for that. 132 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.200 So yeah, And it's not just the local reporters and things like that, 133 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.879 it's places like us like ufl board. You know, the only reason 134 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.799 I was on the call on Wednesday with skip Holes is because Mark Nelson, 135 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.919 the editor and owner of ufl board, happened to get a media advisory from 136 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.240 Birmingham's PR people. And that's the only one we've received from any of the 137 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.759 PR teams. They were really good. I know XFL twenty twenty three was 138 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.879 really good. When we covered it at cfl board, the XFL PR sent 139 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.159 out an entire list of Okay, he's here are the PR context for each 140 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:11.519 team, here's the practice schedules, here's the media availabilities for the entire training 141 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:15.840 camp. And we've received nothing like that with the only team that's reach out 142 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.759 to us with media is the Stallions. I would love to jump on these 143 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.600 media availabilities with these head coaches and these players and things like that, but 144 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.399 it looks like I'm gonna have to go seek them out to do that, 145 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.759 and you know, again, I know we're just a little old ufl board 146 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.759 and we're you know, kind of a drop in the ocean sort of of 147 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.960 what the league is looking for in terms of coverage. But you know, 148 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.399 it is important as well to reach out to as many media entities as you 149 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:46.120 can because any coverage that you get for a league like this is gonna be 150 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:50.679 good coverage. That's actually a really good point. I forgot that with the 151 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.360 Yeah, when the XFL last year and it was like, Okay, here's 152 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.200 all the people, you know, here's we're you know, we're doing the 153 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:00.600 Monday Wednesday. We're going to do the coordinators or whatever this day. I 154 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.440 also got the Birmingham one because obviously the us of belst have last year was 155 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:07.559 kind of wonky because you have like media people with agencies that were kind of 156 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.360 doing the hubs and stuff. I have if you want all that, I 157 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:13.000 sat down and pieced all that together this week. Yeah, because it's like, 158 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.360 okay, you know, Andy with the the Guardians is now with the 159 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.519 show Boats, but like what's their email and all that stuff so we can 160 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.440 get all that. But no, I think that's surprising that ufl board did 161 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.799 not because yeah, I had to do the groundwork on that, but obviously 162 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:28.759 I'm not with you know, hub or anything, so it made sense for 163 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:33.679 me, but certainly would not make sense for you because that would probably be 164 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.120 why there was really one person like at the Houston media availability is like maybe 165 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:39.559 you didn't know what was going on. Yeah, I think the Birmingham people 166 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.480 have done a really nice job because I think there were about twelve people on 167 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.759 the call, you know, not counting the PR people who were on the 168 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.679 call as well and Coach Holts. I think they were about eleven twelve media 169 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:56.799 actually on the Zoom call, and I think Coach Holts it was only asked 170 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:01.440 five questions because he's quite verbose. He likes to he likes to give very 171 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.360 detailed answers. So in the half hour or so we were on, I 172 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.960 was lucky enough to be one that that got to ask a question but didn't 173 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.799 get too many questions. But yeah, I mean, just being on these 174 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.360 calls and being able to write stories from being on these calls, I think 175 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.399 is very valuable for these leagues. I am Max Hear says, I mean, 176 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.519 technically, I guess I'm I don't want Mandy towards illustrating is having enough 177 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:24.559 to host the content that we do, and this will be on there as 178 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.440 well. Chris is talking about video freezing. I'm not seeing any sort of 179 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.840 tech issues on my end, and no one else is mentioning that, So 180 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.360 I just wanted to keep that in mind you when I'm when I'm at the 181 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.919 home studio here, I got the terribile you know, I'm I'm, I'm, 182 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.519 I got the gig speeds here. I'm pretty good. But I want 183 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:41.080 to talk teams and kind of thoughts now that we have all that, But 184 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:46.720 before we get are are you surprised? Uniform wise? I really thought we 185 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.879 were going to get a uniform drop this week because I was of course, 186 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:52.240 can be out of town on a cruise ship with no Wi Fi, and 187 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.919 I thought, well, this would be a wonderful time to do that. 188 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.120 But when the players patting up and everything, are you surprised? That's not 189 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.480 like we I mean, presumably at least the USFL teams are going to have 190 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.320 new uniforms or at least tweaked. Yeah, I mean, it looks like 191 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.399 under Armour is going to be doing a lot of the We've already seen some 192 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:18.639 of the players reveal there. I guess they're packs of materials that they've received, 193 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:20.840 shorts and T shirts and things like that, and that's all under Armours, 194 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:24.879 so we can assume that under Armor is also doing the uniforms. Look, 195 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.480 I just don't think there's enough time to do the kind of redesign that 196 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.720 would be necessary. I think a lot of it, at least for this 197 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.919 year, is just going to be take what the uniform was in twenty twenty 198 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:41.480 three and just transpose it onto an under Armor uniform. You know, it 199 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:46.960 feels like just yesterday read that they announced the league, So I mean things 200 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:52.960 are moving quickly and with everything that they've needed to do to get ramped up 201 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.080 here in the last two months, I just don't see any kind of real 202 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:03.000 thorough redesign as you mentioned. Tweaks perhaps here and there, but I would 203 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.440 be surprised if it's anything more than that. Yeah, I have those there. 204 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.120 Hopefully Fanatics is not the all. Yes, I've been tracking them. 205 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.639 If you I'm of your baseball guy, Greg, but Baseball is having some 206 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.159 problems with their uniforms. I see, Yeah, I quite a lot of 207 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.399 Yeah, my buddy was down there, I said, have you gotten any 208 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.639 photos of any private parts. I want to I want to know how bad 209 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.279 it is, but I don't know. I mean, you know, to 210 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:28.919 me, you know, we a lot and we kind of are. I 211 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.559 don't want to go too far down this spaget your thoughts. And they did 212 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:35.960 the shop. We're adding items on there, but it's still like, okay, 213 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:37.720 we have some hats and some of the old USFL hats and some of 214 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.679 the old like, yeah, I think people want to spend money here, 215 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:46.000 and I understand that there there's other priorities, but I don't know the combining. 216 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.159 You would just think like, okay, we have all the all the 217 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.360 fox people. Now we have rever people, like let's let's get this at 218 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.559 least going. I mean, you can't even buy the old. It's not 219 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.679 like I can go buy the old you know who? I want the Stallion 220 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.159 jersey or whatever right now. Yeah. The only the only reason, and 221 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:05.480 I would think that there might be a jersey or some kind of change would 222 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:09.480 be if we had color scheme clashes, Like if one of the surviving USFL 223 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:15.840 teams had the same or too similar a color scheme to a surviving XFL team, 224 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:20.200 that there may have to have been some kind of change to the uniforms. 225 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:24.120 But short of that, I really don't see anything. I know you're 226 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.080 a close watcher of the UFL shop, and I totally agree, like, 227 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:31.320 if you know people want to spend money on this product, don't stop them 228 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:33.960 from spending money. You know, put as much stuff as you can on 229 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:39.200 there. I remember your epic rant about the trucker hats that came out for 230 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.240 for the XFL in twenty twenty three, so that's that's burned in my memory 231 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.320 from one of the episodes we did together. So I know how close to 232 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:52.440 your heart the shop is for these leagues. But you know, I do 233 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.159 think you have a broader point that if you you know, people are going 234 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.879 to go to the shop the first day it's and if they see that they 235 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.559 don't have what they want, they might not come back. Like they may 236 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:09.240 not be paying attention and checking every two weeks to see what's being added piecemeal 237 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.679 here and there. So ideally you want to make a splash right away. 238 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:18.799 And again I think that's another victim of just putting this together so last minute 239 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:22.320 and just you know, trying to make sure you hit the field, and 240 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.440 some things get left behind and hopefully for next year. We say this all 241 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.039 the time, hopefully for next year, hopefully for next year, but hopefully 242 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.440 for next year if we make it there, that that will be something that 243 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:35.639 sort of takes care of takes care of itself over time. Yeah, I 244 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:37.799 mean, that's the thing. I'm going to come Like, I I have 245 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.120 like an addiction to find that. Like, I mean, it's really like 246 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.200 and I will say, if you a friend of the show. He was 247 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:50.000 on last episode, John Lewis Sports did a phenomenal unboxing breakdown of the football 248 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:52.879 and comparing the new UFL football because he like he has all you think I 249 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.480 gotta have problem with John's got a football problem. He's got because he's got 250 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:00.879 like four USFL balls just from the last and all this stuff and everything seems 251 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:06.559 so expensive. I don't, you know, the I don't know. I 252 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:08.399 look at the prices on there, and I'm like, I can't. I 253 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:15.679 can't in my own mind convince myself to spend that kind of money on some 254 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.759 of those products. I bought the non named XFL one last year and I 255 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.399 did my little video because I have I have, like I also have a 256 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:26.840 Jersey addiction, and yeah, it was like I had the return to them 257 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.519 like I can't. I cannot in my in my life justify. And it 258 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.679 took like it took like three weeks to like get a response back, and 259 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:37.159 I was like, I want to make sure we have like the time codes 260 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.480 on all these emails, because like I've tried to initiate this return process, 261 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.440 you know, and it might have taken sixty days, but I'm like, 262 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:45.360 you know, I want to make sure I'm not on the cutoff here, 263 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:51.919 like I'm trying to get all this set back. So in terms of major 264 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:55.320 I'm looking at the UFL site right now. Let me see if I can 265 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:59.440 get this on here. They have the major story they have football wise here 266 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.240 you know Pras Tamu a couple of days ago on here. Oh yeah, 267 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.720 we'll talk about destroying thank you Pat. Big big news here. How big 268 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.079 of a deal is this getting both of these guys back to me? Either? 269 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.359 Luis continues see the fire expectations, just because I would always think like, 270 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.279 oh, he's passed this prime now, I mean he won the championship. 271 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:19.799 Ask him, like, how big is it getting both of these returning 272 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.960 starts back for their teams? I think it's huge. And you add an 273 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:27.359 aj McCahon as well. And you know, I think the Big three, 274 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.960 so to speak, from the XFL coming back. I know there was some 275 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:36.880 concern at one time over how much money they were or were not paying quarterbacks, 276 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:40.359 and that seemed to be what the hold up was for mcaren, who 277 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:45.880 was very public about his questions about that the pay scale and things like that 278 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.960 related to the union and all, and then Tam it was was kind of 279 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.119 silent, but if you tried to put two and two together, you thought 280 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.839 maybe there was an issue with I mean, he's not exactly a guy knocking 281 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.160 on the NFL door, unfortunately, and I think a lot of fans of 282 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:03.720 the XFL and USFL would say he probably deserves a better shot than he's received 283 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:08.559 so far. But you know, for him to wait out so long without 284 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:12.200 really, you know, any NFL opportunities to weigh, you have to figure 285 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.400 it could be a paything. And then I think we always kind of assume 286 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.480 Louis Prez was coming back. I know when I when it was announced that 287 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.079 Louis pres and Jordan Tama were returning, I thought I thought Perez was already 288 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.920 returning, Like I didn't think that was news. But you know, Pez 289 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.039 is only twenty nine, and I know he feels kind of to us Spring 290 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.839 football people ten years older, just because he's been around the block so long, 291 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:36.720 and he's been around so long. But he is just twenty nine. 292 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:38.880 So I know people are already wanting to replace him on the depth chart with 293 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:42.400 Lindsay Scott and Holton Naylors and stuff like that, the quarterbacks that they have 294 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:48.680 on the Renegades team. But I think it's really hard to replace a guy 295 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.920 who walked in the door and was the reason that team won the championship. 296 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.799 I mean, he would have to fall flat on his face in training camp 297 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.640 to not win that job. So I think some of the people who projecting 298 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:04.000 Lindsay Scott as the week one starter for the Renegades a little premature on that 299 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.960 call. Yeah, I want because I saw yeah something came out. Alers 300 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.480 was like, oh, I'm I'm you know, I'm the last, the 301 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.039 lowest on the depth car right now, And that was like surprising, and 302 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:15.680 I was like, well, no, Like, I mean, I think 303 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:18.319 you bring in Perez at least it's his job to lose at that point. 304 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:19.440 And then Lindsay Scott, I think people have said, has a lot of 305 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.039 upside. But yeah, you certainly they'll bring Luis back. You know, 306 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:26.640 they have him sit back up immediately. Yeah. The other thing is for 307 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.680 the eye popping numbers that Lindsay Scott put up in college. You have to 308 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:36.279 remember he did that incarnate word, which is an FCS program. And I 309 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:38.680 know it's just the UFL, it's not the NFL, but it's even a 310 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:45.559 pretty big jump from FCS level to starting in the UFL. So give him 311 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.039 some time, you know, let him watch and learn from a veteran like 312 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.319 Perez. I mean, I can't think if you're Ailers and Scott to real 313 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.759 I mean rookies, if we're talking experience wise, I can't think of a 314 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.400 better veteran to watch and learn from in terms of preper and things like that 315 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.640 than Luis Perez. Pat has a comment here, Tamly, when prez are 316 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.319 stables of these leagues or then they go to the NFL or not, it 317 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:11.680 gives fans a familiar faith story to relate to. Yeah, I mean, 318 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.359 do you do you see it positively or do you see it like maw these 319 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:17.599 got like they're back again now? I mean, because I think you can 320 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:19.079 look at it both ways of that of like I mean, Tayamu has had 321 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.559 definitely had his shot that kind of latch on with the Chiefs, and I 322 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.519 think it was the Lions, right, Uh yeah, I think it was 323 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.839 the Vikings with Tayamu this year. But you know, I think it's sort 324 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:36.240 of the double edged sword that And Anthony beck To made a comment regarding this 325 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:37.920 last year as he said, you know, I would like to go into 326 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.039 twenty twenty four having to replace every player on my roster because I want every 327 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:45.160 one of them to go to the NFL. And so you know, there's 328 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:49.160 that thinking that's going to legitimize your league in the eyes of fans who may 329 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.359 not otherwise watch the league but maybe hear about it through watching NFL games and 330 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:59.039 hearing about UFL players having success in the NFL. Brandon Aubrey for the USFL, 331 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:02.720 I think that was very value for them. But the other side is 332 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:04.960 the actual fans of this league. You know, you want the Jordan tam 333 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.000 who's the Lewis Perez. I know Perez was at the Arlington meet and greet 334 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:12.000 the other day, so a familiar face for Arlington fans to draw them in. 335 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:18.119 And fans want someone who they can associate with their team and their city. 336 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.400 So I think for fans of the UFL, you want players the level 337 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.079 of tam We're not just named that carry over from year to year, but 338 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.200 players who play extremely well and good players who carry over from year to year. 339 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:34.000 But in terms of drawing new fans, I think you want a certain 340 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:40.799 percentage to graduate onto the NFL, so that fans of football who may not 341 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.920 have heard about the UFL or may not have otherwise checked it out, you 342 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:47.559 know, hear about these players having success in the NFL, and they may 343 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:52.359 decide, let me see what this is all about next spring. It's hard, 344 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:55.039 I think, I don't know. I kind of look at them a 345 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:57.160 couple of different ways here. I want to make sure I note to for 346 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:00.680 the cutdown dates, and I had this, like Mike was reporting, March 347 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.880 tenth is gonna be the first cutdown date for training camp, coming down the 348 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.839 partial rosters and then final rosters there on March twenty third, So maybe we 349 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.759 can do something there, like you know, the week of the eleventh or 350 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:15.079 whatever, kind of figure out what's a little more you know, semi finalized 351 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.160 rosters with these with these guys returning in with the aj mccerron, Like, 352 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.039 I think that's great for you know, if you're a holdover from this league 353 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:26.519 before. I just met like a big picture thinking like I just don't know 354 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:30.680 if the league is doing enough to incentivize new, you know, new customers 355 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.079 of this at this point. You know, if we've lost eight from the 356 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.640 two leagues and now you know we're bringing these Okay, these are the favorite. 357 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.359 Like, I just at some point, I don't know what the marketing 358 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.880 plan is to get outside people invested in this versus just like let's retain the 359 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:49.440 people we have before, right, And you're talking bringing new fans in, 360 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.400 yeah, Like I mean, yeah, are you like how bolished are you 361 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.200 for kickoff this year? In terms of like like you know, we can 362 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.200 talk rating a couple of weeks, like are you bullish for like a to 363 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.920 be XFL last year? Well, in terms of players, I don't really. 364 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.519 I'm not sure there's a connection there, you know. I know we're 365 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.359 talking about bringing Tayamu and mcaeron back, and you know, pivoting from there 366 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.240 to drawing new fans. I'm not sure if those two are necessarily related. 367 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.559 And I'm not sure if you mean for them to be related or if you're 368 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.079 just kind of jumping off to a new topic. But it just kind of 369 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:26.480 came to my hand. It's a slight swerve. Okay, that's fine, 370 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:32.839 No, I agree. I don't you know, there's I think there's a 371 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:37.839 lot more commercials about the UFL than there was for the XFL. I think 372 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:42.359 it's closer to being on par with what we saw ad wise from the USFL 373 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:48.000 in previous years. I thought they did a really significantly better job in terms 374 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:52.960 of marketing with commercials than the XFL did in twenty twenty three. You know, 375 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.359 part of that is the league, but part of that is also your 376 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.200 TV partner willing to put those ads on the air, and with Fox owning 377 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:04.480 the USFL, obviously they had a bigger stake in it than the ESPN did 378 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:10.920 for the XFL. So that seems to be really the way that they're going. 379 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.279 I don't know if there's any kind of viral marketing. Certainly destroying being 380 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.720 on one of the teams may attract fans through social media and through YouTube that 381 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:26.839 otherwise wouldn't. But you know, I think putting the Rock and ownership on 382 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:34.039 College Game Day and on NFL on Fox, I think was good, but 383 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:41.240 they really haven't done much since then to appeal to a wider base of fans. 384 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:47.400 And I think that's even more necessary now because you have this space where 385 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:51.759 there's no football and you have to kind of remind fans that, hey, 386 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.839 football maybe over for the NFL, but we're starting up here at the end 387 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:59.799 of March. Whereas you could kind of connect those two with the XFL, 388 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.920 it ran at the end of you know, the week after the Super Bowl, 389 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:07.000 you maybe didn't need to do so much reaching out to fans the way 390 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.920 you have to do now to sort of bring them back into football once again. 391 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.359 And I just I haven't seen outside of television ads, I haven't really 392 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.480 seen a big push. Now. I'm not in a city that has a 393 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.039 team, so I cannot speak for the whole markets and what's going on there, 394 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:27.079 but I haven't seen a significant amount of push beyond those television ads. 395 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:30.680 Yeah, I'm just I'm worried in just to kind of relate to it, 396 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.799 you know, because like we got Tamu and then it's It was interesting to 397 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.680 me because they narrative with them coming back was like, oh, these guys 398 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:40.279 were eternity, but then he had someone like Matt Carrall coming in and he 399 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:41.839 was like, oh, well, this guy, this hat couldn't make it, 400 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.960 and now look at him, he's going to the Spring. He's like, 401 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.279 You're getting different different narratives there, kind of from the you know, 402 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.599 the at least what I'm seeing on Twitter and the more of the casual fan 403 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:53.920 base. Do you think like highlighting someone like him right he's with Birmingham? 404 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.559 I mean, is that going to be Is that a better way to showcase 405 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:00.279 to bring in you guys, like here's a guy it was like just drafted 406 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:06.720 just in the NFL a couple of years ago. I think so, But 407 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.279 I don't think as a league you can hang your hat on that as a 408 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:11.319 way to market, because ultimately it's up to each individual team as to who 409 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.519 they sign and who they bring back and who they think is the best fit 410 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.759 for their team. I think Spring football, at least for the first few 411 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.720 years, is always going to have that problem of the casual fan kind of 412 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:29.000 snarking on social media about players quote unquote slumming it in the UFL. I 413 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:33.519 mean, that's that's a stigma that you're going to have to shake by being 414 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:38.920 a successful league, and that's going to take time. You can't expect fans 415 00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:44.440 like that to take you seriously your first year when they've seen so many spring 416 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.319 leagues come and go, and you know, so that's something that you're just 417 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.359 gonna have to grit your teeth and get through until you get to year three, 418 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.680 four five, to where you're taken seriously as an actual pro football entity 419 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.000 and not just oh, this guy couldn't make it in the NFL, so 420 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.240 he's, uh, you know, he's playing in the UFL. Now you 421 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.559 have a comment here, Gary, I do have two friends and up and 422 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.200 followers have either have asked me when the UFL started to me that suggests or 423 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:11.839 at least to where I have some interest. I also, I was just 424 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.079 picking up my car at the shop. I had to get excuse me, 425 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.880 in my oil chains and the lady came back here and got my keys, 426 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.079 and she goes, oh, is that like I saw your car head the 427 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.920 dragons, because I like the old dragons. She goes, like they're they're 428 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.759 gone now, right, but like that's merging, like they're getting together. 429 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.160 So I mean she kind I mean, you know she's not. I I 430 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.240 said, I gotta go, I gotta get home here can you give him 431 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.440 my keys? So like Z about this? But so yeah, I mean, 432 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:38.000 you know, I guess that's, you know, anecdotally, two different 433 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:44.559 examples here of that working. You were talking about Destroying and him, you 434 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:45.440 know, kind of the viral, you know, bringing him in, and 435 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.920 that's gotten a lot of traction. I've seen a lot of YouTube videos and 436 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.160 stuff. Pat was shared this today in our group chat, destroying. This 437 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.079 was on his Instagram. I have to share a locker with another kicker and 438 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.759 a Frannie face and he's obviously with matt Amandela there with the so like, 439 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.359 I don't know, that to me doesn't speak very well. What do you 440 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:12.000 think about that? I don't know. I don't want to read too much 441 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.759 into it, you know, I, like I said, I think he 442 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:21.279 can be valuable for reaching out to fans. I know, you know, 443 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.480 I've seen the YouTube videos where you know, this isn't just a gimmick. 444 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:29.200 I mean, he was a kicker in college and you know he's been working 445 00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.720 on his craft. This isn't something where you know, they just sign him 446 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:38.039 and it's it's just a gimmick so to speak. You know, he's been 447 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.839 working at it, and he's been training and he worked out for Mark Littlebridge, 448 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:48.319 san Antonio's general manager. And so I don't know. This tells me 449 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.000 san Antonio has too many players on the roster. They got to have seventy 450 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.880 five players. What's what's the deal here? They should have enough lockers for 451 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.400 everybody. Are they trying to sneak an extra player or two on the training 452 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:03.359 camp roster here? Sam and Sam Chase where it said I they probably only 453 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:04.799 he's probably sharing because he's only going to be there for a couple of weeks. 454 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.960 Anyway, that doesn't necessarily matter. Maybe doesn't. Maybe maybe that's what 455 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.640 the frownie faces for. Maybe he knows that too. But I know, 456 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:17.039 I mean, because you know here, I'm someone here, I'm very invested 457 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.640 in the NFL combine right now. And with the words that Caleb Williams has 458 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.119 spoken here over the last couple of days, like and you know, so 459 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.519 you got to read in all this stuff, and if he's coming in here 460 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:30.079 and it's I, I don't know, you don't want you want people invested 461 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.160 in this. And if he's coming in and they're like, oh, I'm 462 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.599 holier than thou or whatever, because I have you know, four million YouTube 463 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.880 subscribers or whatever like that. To me, that would rub me the wrong 464 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:42.519 way if I was another special teams member there or anybody else on the team. 465 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.559 Well, I mean, and that's the thing about a league like this 466 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.759 where everybody's getting paid the same amount, Like, you know, those kind 467 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.920 of mistakes get you cut and teams won't think twice about it because you know 468 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.279 they didn't. It's not like they spent a high draft pick on it. 469 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.680 It's not like you know, you have this roster bonus come up or if 470 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:02.519 they cut you, yeah, they have to eat a bunch of money on 471 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:07.480 their salary cap. No, I mean this is this is UFL football, 472 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.119 So everybody's everybody's in the same boat here, so you really have to mind 473 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.640 your p's and q's. Yeah, Denzel check and then what up? Late 474 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.319 mean that's like I was talking through it. Yeah, I know. I 475 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.000 think it feels like a gimmicky signing. To me, it feels like he 476 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.000 was involved before. I mean, he's got to win a spot there in 477 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:30.079 terms of talking teams and kind of you know not I don't believe the whole 478 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.759 like power ranking this thing here. But you were on the call with with 479 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.000 you know, coach Holtz, like Birmingham to me, is coming in with 480 00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.039 the most momentum, even compared to the Renegades who won the you know, 481 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.400 they won the exit of them Like you know that we can get into all 482 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.599 that losing record, all that stuff going through. But what do you make 483 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.279 here of the Stallions coming in and if they pants, you know, the 484 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.920 Renegades opening weekend, I think that would be very interesting to kind of engage 485 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.319 in the online stuff after that. Yeah, I may have to log out 486 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.119 for a few days if that's the case. Look, I think the Stallions 487 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.400 have one of, if not the most talented roster in the UFL. They've 488 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:10.359 won the UFL champion or the USFL Championship two years in a row. They've 489 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:14.559 added to that this offseason. I mean they've They've been one of the winners 490 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.720 of the offseason just based on the personnel that they've added. Beyond the players 491 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.200 that they've brought back from twenty twenty three. I mean, you talk about 492 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.880 a Matt Correll, you talk about a Slade Bolden, that wide receiver. 493 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:29.160 A lot of these guys who are being brought in can be difference makers. 494 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.119 And you know, if you want to compare it to Arlington. Certainly, 495 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.160 Arlington I think has a strong roster, but how much of that momentum can 496 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.559 carry over to twenty twenty four, that end of year momentum. They were 497 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.799 not able to put it together for an entire year the way the Stallions have, 498 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.839 So you know, I hate to lean too far in the renegade direction 499 00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.440 when you just haven't seen it on that same consistent basis the level that you've 500 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:59.440 seen it with the Stallions. So Stallions are every team got stronger this offseason, 501 00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:02.160 I think out a doubt just based on how these rosters were put together, 502 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.640 how the other teams were dispersed amongst the eight surviving teams. But I 503 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:13.559 think even you know, even admitting that every team got better, I still 504 00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:19.559 think the Stallions got better than at least half the league. Probably. I 505 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.200 think it was Bob Steubes had a comment that maybe Ama was Anthony that shared 506 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.839 it, but like, yeah, these are like all star teams right now, 507 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.880 just because the cohesion of the talent that way. And I've known even 508 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:31.880 obviously the CFL teams happy that some of the players, you know, there's 509 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:36.279 not as many players tied up down here so they can get it. You 510 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:37.799 know, when these cuts come, it's going to be you know, I 511 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.119 think it's going to be alarming for a lot of these guys, even if 512 00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.079 you've been carried over because you're now like, okay, we didn't know we 513 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:45.960 get spot and I'm on here, like there's just to me, it's like 514 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:50.119 that you're on the boat on the Titanic and there's so many tickets, right, 515 00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.759 You're just trying to make sure you're one of those in terms of have 516 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.680 you enjoyed now because I know you were more exbell have you have you enjoyed 517 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.279 deep diving into these USFL rosters now that out of all this is cohesive. 518 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.839 Of course, you know, I'm still trying to get used to the coaches 519 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:09.039 and the players and things like that. And you know, there's there seems 520 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:14.240 to me to be a very limited amount of information online that I can really 521 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.359 dig into from the USFL the past couple of years. You know, there 522 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.319 wasn't a situation that I could see where, you know, like the XFL 523 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.880 last year had every week and all the team and each game by game stats 524 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.640 and everything like that. If that was out there for the USFL, you 525 00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.079 know, shoot me a shoot me a link on Twitter, because I haven't 526 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:36.920 found it, and so it's been a process. It's going to continue to 527 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.279 be a process. I hope people are patient with me because you know, 528 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.880 it's it's going to be a full year of learning and then you know, 529 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.519 you kind of take what you learned this year and what you watch this year 530 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.880 with your own eyes and you get a better feel for it heading into twenty 531 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:53.200 twenty five. Probably again that's you know, it's tough here because it's like, 532 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.400 how how much do we invest in this? I mean, I know 533 00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.119 that we talked here the casual media going in, I mean even from this 534 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.200 like I don't you know, and like the Sports Illustrated thing kind of spurred 535 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.839 my into you know, because I'm like, you know, really okay, 536 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.720 you know, and I mean and we're we'll be there, you know, 537 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.320 we'll be there in Arlington and I have all that booked and we'll you know, 538 00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.639 I hope you or whoever wants to zoom in and I'll be there. 539 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:16.039 But you know, it's hard to even as a fan of one of these, 540 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.719 to be like, let's get and so especially to have to like deep 541 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.199 dive and relearn kind of all this stuff now doing way more worth that you 542 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.719 guys and Mike and Anthony and Pat do you know writing articles and stuff like 543 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:29.880 I just I couldn't imagine trying to get that on it gain now, Like, 544 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.199 who knows that this is going to wind out? Yeah, I can 545 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:39.639 tell you that. And I express to you my weariness last year with all 546 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:45.199 of the ratings stuff. And you know, you're you're living and dying week 547 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.400 by week with the ratings because you truly don't know what the future of that 548 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.639 league holds. And I can tell you that at least for now, and 549 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.960 maybe it'll change once the games actually start. But I don't feel that same 550 00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.559 weight of the future that I did for the XFL. And maybe it's just 551 00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:07.199 because the XFL letters are no longer there aside from being part of the conference. 552 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.320 And that's something that you know, the idea of the XFL and what 553 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.679 it stood for has attracted me for you know, ever since two thousand and 554 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.639 one, and that's not there now. So this is a spring league that 555 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:24.320 I'm covering that features former XFL teams, but I don't feel as invested in 556 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:30.039 it at least yet that I that I felt about the XFL. So I 557 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.000 think being able to keep it at arm's length is going to be good for 558 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.400 my sanity and good for my mental health and everything like that, and hopefully, 559 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:42.159 you know, it's kind of like, if you want something to happen, 560 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.760 do the opposite. So I, you know, wanted the XFL to 561 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.039 survive, so I was all in. So maybe if I back away, 562 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.960 then this one will actually last, you know. But you know, I'm 563 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.559 covering it, and I'm churning out articles and analyzing the rosters and teams just 564 00:35:53.599 --> 00:36:00.880 like I would with the XFL. But that internal feeling, it doesn't feel 565 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.679 the same. It definitely feels different. And so again we'll see if that 566 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.079 changes the closer we get to kick off. Yeah, I think we're and 567 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.760 I've said on here, but kind of adjusting, you know, coverage, 568 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.800 and I said, trying to do some more pre recorded stuff next week and 569 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:17.639 get some player interviews and stuff. Yeah, I think I think the days 570 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:22.239 of the of the sixth interview two and a half hour mark casts are probably 571 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.800 you know, I mean, just just for sanity's sake of being able to 572 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:30.719 kind of cover this and stay stay excited about it. In terms of I 573 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.559 think you put Birmingham number one of all the eight teams, right, now, 574 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:36.719 and I know we still have cuts and everything and figuring out, but 575 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.239 just kind of now that you've had a chance to kind of simmer with the 576 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:44.840 rosters, I think so I think they're number one. You know, I'm 577 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:45.760 not going to go through the whole list or anything like that. There are 578 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.000 plenty of power rankings out there if you want to find them, and people 579 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:54.639 have their own reasoning for it. But I would say Birmingham based on winning 580 00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.440 the championship in the USFL the last two years and then improving as I see 581 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.679 it upon the roster heading into twenty twenty four, I think they've got to 582 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:06.400 be number one in terms of a team you might be a little bit weary 583 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.880 about right now. I know Arlington is showing a blow on the list, 584 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:14.599 but I mean that was I mean there's quarterback concerns I think across a couple 585 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.360 of these teams right now. Yeah, And I think that's why, as 586 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:21.079 Mike Mitchell reported, you see some teams have reached out to Kellen Mond and 587 00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:25.800 to Trace McSorley, who were NFL practice squad players. And you know, 588 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.320 it's intriguing to think about which teams right like with you look at the quarterback 589 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:31.679 rooms of all these teams and you're like, oh, they probably don't need 590 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.559 them. They probably they might need it, you know, so you kind 591 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:39.440 of in your mind imagine what teams reached out to these players. But you 592 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.719 know, Houston's Houston's a team that I'm not really sure about that that I 593 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:50.760 have some real questions about after going through especially after the dispersal draft and and 594 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:55.079 things like that. So I'm I'm wondering how they'll play out that. That's 595 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.960 that might be my biggest question mark right now is the Houston team. Why 596 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.880 I'm wanting to pull up the roster so I can kind of refresh myself. 597 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.079 But yeah, I mean it's a weird situation because it's where we're bringing in 598 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:08.599 that you lose, you know, you had a lot of the momentum I 599 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:12.280 think that the Houston team have and that replacing with the XFL, Like, 600 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.719 what is it about Houston besides because I think marketing wise, I think they're 601 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.119 going to have a tremendously difficult time as well. But just in terms of 602 00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.800 player wise, why are you so concerned? Yeah, I think there's some 603 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:24.599 depth that's needed a lot of those positions. I don't see a lot of 604 00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.239 names that jump out to me. You know, when I look at these 605 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.679 rosters, you know, I look for the names that have had that NFL 606 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:36.199 experience, that have been in NFL camps, that have had even success in 607 00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.880 the NFL. And that's not always the players who stand out. I mean, 608 00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.760 you look at our Tavis Briant, who had like fourteen catches with the 609 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.960 Vipers last year. So NFL pedigrees don't necessarily always translate over to a spring 610 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.159 league like this, but you know, that's that's where I look. And 611 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.360 there are a lot of unfamiliar names to me on that roster, and you 612 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.039 know, not to toot my own horn, but I'm familiar with quite a 613 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.719 few players that have come out of college in the NFL recently, So if 614 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.280 there are names that are unfamiliar to me, that's kind of what gives me 615 00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.960 pause. And then you know, depth at certain positions as well. But 616 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.440 you know, it's certainly not writing them off or anything like that. There's 617 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.159 plenty of time to continue to add players throughout training camp. I think when 618 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.840 we see cuts come down both to I think fifty eight is the number the 619 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.800 first cut and then the final cut to fifty. You know, these teams 620 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.199 are all practicing together, they're all watching film of each other, They're going 621 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:29.440 to have numerous scrimmages against each other. So if there is a player who 622 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:34.800 is overlooked by a team or a team just has tremendous, tremendous depth at 623 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.840 a certain position and a guy who otherwise would have made the roster gets cut, 624 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:42.400 you're gonna see other teams pounce on them. And so you know, 625 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.639 this is this is a good situation to be And if you're a player who 626 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.559 gets cut because you're being seen very closely by seven other teams in the league, 627 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:52.920 well, especially where at least right now with training camp, the teams 628 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.079 are sharing like they're all you know, two of them are eachhar and fields 629 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.719 like you know, there's a good opportunity there and these coaches stas is kind 630 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.039 of go back and forth. Anyway, here what you have going on. 631 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.519 It's funny. I was looking here just with with CJ. Johnson, I 632 00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:09.559 was I had this bio pulled up here with the Rough Texes. I've enjoyed 633 00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:13.960 this, Like the the UFL is the premier Spring Football League, which is 634 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:19.559 funny because we've started calling ourselves the premier CFL. Podcast America's Premiere CFL podcast. 635 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.440 I can't remember there was some I had some feud with someone in the 636 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.000 CFL a long time ago, but we've always been in America's Premier CFL podcast, 637 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:29.119 and I like even in the bio here it says again. In twenty 638 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.159 twenty four, he was named head coach for the Houston Roughnecks at the UFL, 639 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:36.039 the premier spring football platform for by the merging of like even in the 640 00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:37.519 bio, like this is even in the press release, even in the bio. 641 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:42.039 We gotta have that. Yeah, that's funny. But in terms of 642 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:47.639 se seems a little insecure maybe by the league. Uh yeah, no it 643 00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:53.760 in terms of team building here at least we kind of have people that have 644 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:58.239 gone through this before and now right where I think we had like and you 645 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.199 know, I love coach back and all that, like we had some guys 646 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.719 back before, like okay, whether we do with here, like we've all 647 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.519 kind of been through the platform here, even if it's on you know, 648 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:08.960 the Filipo, switching teams and all of that, but you feel like at 649 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:14.000 least now we had kind of set rosters. These guys kind of know how 650 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.719 this operates. Because I think it's a totally different beast kind of trying to 651 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.199 build these you know, teams up over you know, what is it, 652 00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.960 four or six weeks in training camp. Yeah, And I think it's going 653 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.559 to be interesting to see how that plays out on the field. I know 654 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:31.559 the USFL had some carryover from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three, and 655 00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.199 I'm not sure, having not paid that close attention to it, how much 656 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:43.039 the on field product improved because there was that level of carryover. I know 657 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.880 they they did have to replace four head coaches, I believe in the second 658 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.800 year, so you know, maybe with offensive systems changing and things like that, 659 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.119 maybe there wasn't as much carryover as there might be otherwise. But you've 660 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:59.760 got a lot of head coaches returning in twenty twenty four to if not their 661 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.639 team teams, then they've brought a lot of players. Wade Phillips bring a 662 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:07.920 lot of roughnecks to San Antonio, and same with coach flip In in Memphis 663 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.880 bring a lot of New Orleans players over. So system wise, there's a 664 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.119 lot of carryover on these teams from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four, 665 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:19.840 and it would be interesting to see how that affects on field play, because 666 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.079 you would think that it would improve it. Obviously, the the on field 667 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.480 play is going to be improved just because you've gone from sixteen teams to eight 668 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.440 and you've condensed and you've taken the best players of the All Star teams, 669 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:36.000 as Bob Stoops called it. But I am curious to see how much cleaner 670 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.320 the game is. You know, you had if you watch the XFL last 671 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.880 year, you still you had a lot of you know, Luis pres was 672 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:44.519 still trying to get guys lined up in the right spot in the championship game 673 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:46.639 in Arlington, and so you know, there was a lot of that. 674 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.760 There was a lot of pre snap stuff going on that you hope gets cleaned 675 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.800 up with these guys so many of them having a second year in their team 676 00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.559 systems and sometimes a third year. Now in terms of it, we did 677 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.039 Indeed, I don't want to deep dive on the rules, but if someone 678 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.920 are you, I want to get your thoughts. They especially now that they're 679 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.480 talking the NFL Commission and the committee, the rules committee talking about like, 680 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.920 hey we might look at the XFL kickoff, and we had Darryl Johnston talking 681 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:15.360 like that, didn't look like real football. We're not using that them getting 682 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.480 rid of that because I mean that was like the standout aspect of any of 683 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:22.480 these leagues. No, I agree, I was pretty and I wrote a 684 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:28.320 pretty deep dive on the rules on UFL board, and I was pretty eh 685 00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.880 on most of them, Like you know, you know, take the USFL 686 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.719 rule, that's fine, Take the XFL rule, that's fine. But for 687 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:40.320 me, the biggest miss was not keeping the XFL kickoff and the idea that 688 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.039 the NFL and I don't believe that the NFL is going to implement it. 689 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:49.280 I think it's you rarely see the NFL take such a drastic step and change 690 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.000 on field play in such a drastic way as this would. So I think 691 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.800 they'll find a way to probably incorporate the kickoffs more into the game, but 692 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:01.519 without such a drastic move. But even the fact that they're talking about it, 693 00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:07.400 the fact that they're considering it, kind of makes Moose Johnson look a 694 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:09.039 little silly for saying, ah, that doesn't look enough like football when the 695 00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:14.840 NFL is considering it. I mean, come on, now, so you 696 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.400 know, I don't know, if you don't know how much is going on 697 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.760 behind the scenes in terms of a tug of war between the USFL people and 698 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.760 the XFL people and how many people are counting rules. Okay, we had 699 00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:28.840 five XFL rules, and for you that means we have to get one more 700 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.559 us You know how much of that is going on, because that's certainly what 701 00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:37.159 this feels like. This feels like, Okay, the USFL equiesced on a 702 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.760 couple of these XFL rules, but now we want our kickoff rule because we 703 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.280 need to have a USFL rule in there and we need to take out of 704 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.280 it. So you don't know how much of that is going on behind the 705 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:52.800 scenes. But look, ultimately, all of that said, ultimately, the 706 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:58.360 goal of this play for a spring league like the UFL should be to a 707 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:05.559 decrease injuries and be increase returns. If the USFL kickoff does that and doesn't 708 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.559 compromise the integrity of the game, I know I've seen people speculating that by 709 00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.480 moving the kickoff back to the twenty, you're basically, you know, with 710 00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.400 a return giving the team the ball of the forty forty five yard line. 711 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.440 I mean, which is you know, that's that's a bit artificial for my 712 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.679 taste. We'll see how it ends up playing out. But if this increases 713 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:28.320 returns and decreases injuries on the kickoff, that's the whole point. And so 714 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:35.000 I'm ultimately okay with it, even though I think the XFL kickoff was really 715 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.519 And I also made this argument that when you are a spring league, and 716 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:42.039 I've made this argument on social media too, and I know some people don't 717 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.760 like to hear it, when you are a spring league, you have to 718 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:51.880 have something that differentiates you from the NFL. You cannot be everything the NFL 719 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.960 is only with lesser players because people aren't going to watch that. You need 720 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.559 to offer something different whether and and you know they're doing that with the broadcast 721 00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:01.960 innovation. I know the you know, I don't know what's going to stick 722 00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:06.400 around as far as broadcast innovations for twenty twenty four. But we've seen the 723 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.679 coach to quarterback communication. We've seen the mid game interviews on the sidelines, 724 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:15.159 things like that. But I think that also extends to on field play and 725 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.079 you know, some of the rules of the fourth and twelve rule or whatever 726 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.360 it is this year, I think is good to keep that sort of thing. 727 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.719 And I think the XFL kickoff, it was lauded by people who didn't 728 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:29.920 even care about spring football. There were people saying, hey, that's really 729 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:34.920 cool, and so I think you need that to attract lookie loose as you 730 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.679 kind of column to people who are going to tune in to see what this 731 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.400 project is all about, and that they see something different and cool, they 732 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:45.320 might decide to stick around. And so taking that out I think really hurts 733 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.800 that aspect of just trying to be different than the NFL, which I do 734 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:52.119 think you need to be to a certain extent. Yeah, it was funny 735 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:59.480 just talking about the It does feel exactly like you said that they had we 736 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.920 have to have equal numbers, even as much as like, well it's four 737 00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:06.920 and four, but it's we'll move to one XFL teams ESFL really feels like 738 00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.079 we're counting all that. It was funny too talking about the kickoff. Tom 739 00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:14.480 Pellasara was on today because he's at the combine with the NFL, and they 740 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:15.880 were even talking about doing like a fourth and twenty. At some point, 741 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.400 I'm like, oh, it's like flip the field challenge, just like the 742 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.840 AAF and the FCF and all that. Like, these are good, these 743 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:24.199 are good ideas, But I agree with you, like That's why I always 744 00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.960 like, you know, and I watched wrestling for a long time. I 745 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.800 was never like the technical like studying the craft of all of it. But 746 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.920 like you know, something like the elimination chamber, you're trying to get friends 747 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.440 to watch. I know that just happened in Australia and you're like, hey, 748 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:37.760 do you want to come? Like, oh, well, what's like 749 00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:42.199 it's this big pond and they're in all these cham that sounds awesome. I 750 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.920 look like you need to have and yeah, I agree they have, Like 751 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.239 well, it's it's the football the players in the spring, yeah, and 752 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:51.599 it's not quite as good players. Like that's what kills me when the NFL 753 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.440 season starts with all the CFL guys and they're like, well there's I'm like, 754 00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.639 I thought the whole point was your game was different because it's all the 755 00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:00.840 like, so then the there's no need to compare at all, because if 756 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.960 you have enough differences, it's just a totally different game. We didn't, 757 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:08.239 you know, we didn't compare Danga Chow football to like when they it's a 758 00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:12.800 totally like a video game, acount, like you you need to have some 759 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.239 differentiating factors here and Max has a comment, yet league marketing screams, no 760 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:22.480 identity, we play football, Like I agree with that, yeah for sure, 761 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.719 And and it's early and they haven't played a game yet, you know, 762 00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:30.639 so the the identity is going to take time, and you know, 763 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:35.360 your identity is going to be paired with the teams that are successful, the 764 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.880 coaches that are successful, the players that are successful. That's going to be 765 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.400 in large part your identity. And since we haven't played it down in football, 766 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.199 it's kind of hard to do that. You know, you can kind 767 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:50.920 of manufacture what your identity, what you want your identity to be. And 768 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.119 I agree with Max. The UFL hasn't gone out there and done that. 769 00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:58.239 They haven't said, you know, we're spring football, but we're this. 770 00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.840 They've said, as you've pointed out, we're the premiere Spring football League. 771 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:05.199 Okay, well what does that mean? Like that? That means nothing to 772 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:12.000 people who don't already watch spring football. So yeah, they're behind. I 773 00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.639 mean that's when you announce your league in January and you're kicking off in March, 774 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.920 like, you're going to be behind on some of these finer details. 775 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.519 And you know, we can quibble about what's a detail on what's a major 776 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:24.880 part that we think is important. I mean, there are people who think 777 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:30.400 that marketing and creating an identity is an important part of year one and before 778 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.320 you kick off, and there are some people who may look at that and 779 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.480 say, hey, we just got to make sure we get these players out 780 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.920 on the field. Like that's the marketing and the identity, that's that's a 781 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:43.360 detail we'll deal with later when we get to year two or three. So 782 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:47.639 yeah, it's it's frustrating because we're in this space now where they're having training 783 00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:52.039 camp and you're just here, you know, unless you're following these teams on 784 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:57.239 social media, you're really hearing nothing about the league itself and the kickoff. 785 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.480 Yeah, I don't like you said that kind of a the top, like 786 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.280 I don't know what you know what that would have been job to incentivize someone 787 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.599 from a market outside of Arlington to go. And I mean I remember even 788 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:12.239 you know when because I used to work at Fox, Like I don't I 789 00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.800 don't work there anymore, but I have friends that work there still and like 790 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:19.159 when when the Sea Dragons, like I don't think Aaron Levine was running you 791 00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.280 know sea dragon spots on the Sunday, you know, qu it up sports 792 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.719 or whatever, like I don't I don't know, you know how how much 793 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:29.800 that kind of played across here. I had we had another comment out. 794 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.320 It wasn't much. Yeah, they talking about just talking about the inflated I 795 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.320 think that to me was the problem with the USFL kickoff was inflating back. 796 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:43.599 You're untouched to like the thirty five yard line, so you know, it 797 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:47.199 kind of gets there. Tim Caper pointed out UFL Week five will be going 798 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:52.000 up against the af the a FLS kickoff on the NFL network. That would 799 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.360 be that will be the big rating is till that week. Well, I 800 00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.559 hope that that Fox is able to draw a better rating than NF network, 801 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:05.960 So maybe it'll be a small discussion point that week. Anyway, we'll talk 802 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:07.360 about that. We'll wrap up here at the top of the hour. If 803 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.440 you guys have any more cautions or comments, get in. Max had a 804 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:14.800 comment and I want to just talking a little more football here about the Brahmas 805 00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:19.440 and just kind of their quarterback kerfuffle right now. You know, kirbn Kirk 806 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.840 like publicly announcing like I'm not doing the XFL again, even though he kind 807 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.559 of did that before with Dormandy on there. We signed Tom Flacco and then 808 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:29.000 Chase garber Is like, that's the team, that's my team. So that's 809 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.440 why I'm more invested in this as well. But that to me, you 810 00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.519 know, I don't know what A. J. Smith's going to do with 811 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.599 Are we high Tom Flacco? Is that the next coming? No, I 812 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:43.800 see Tom Flacco as the number three. I think it's if there is a 813 00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.400 competition, it's more between Dormandy and Chase Garber's and I think Dormandy may have 814 00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.800 a leg up on that, even though Garber's was more recently in an NFL 815 00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.079 camp. But I really think, you know, with the AJ Smith offense 816 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:58.519 and the run and shoot, I think it's really more what quarterback is able 817 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:02.360 to adapt to that. He certainly didn't run that last year, you know, 818 00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.360 Garberge didn'trun it when he was in an NFL camp or anything like that. 819 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.679 So they're going to have to learn a little bit of a different language, 820 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:15.519 I think in camp this year. So I'm not sure what spots are 821 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.880 up for grabs and what aren't. But Dormity certainly showed toward the end of 822 00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.719 the year in Orlando last year that he has the makings of a starting quarterback 823 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:27.920 in a league like this, so I would not be afraid to if I 824 00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.280 was the Brahmas to go into week one with Quentin Dormody as the starter. 825 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:35.360 So yeah, that remains to be seen. I think there's a lot of 826 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.519 camp battles going on at quarterback out there that we just don't know all that 827 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:44.199 much about because nobody's writing about the ins and outs of everyday training camp like 828 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.679 you get in the NFL. I mean you pulled up the UFL dot com 829 00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:52.000 website and there's nothing about anything training camp wise. I know we're only on 830 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:55.559 day three or four of on field workouts and such, but you know, 831 00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:00.000 they don't have anybody writing articles for them on the site or anything like that, 832 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:06.400 so we're really left to kind of pick out the Instagram and Twitter videos 833 00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.719 of what's going on at training camp that are posted by social media admins, 834 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.440 which is not a great place to be. But I guess we'll all be 835 00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.000 surprised when cuts come in when depth charts are released. Well, and that's 836 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:19.239 the problem. And we needed I forgive me, I forget in his last 837 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.440 name because he was on the podcast. We needed the Josh gentleman that was 838 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.400 that was doing that. This is the week in the XFL. And remember 839 00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:28.079 he was right in the art like he was kind of their rider that they 840 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.000 brought in kind of midway through. We need we need that here, and 841 00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:34.679 we've talked about that before, you need something. The USFL struggled with this 842 00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:38.440 as well, especially being in Birmingham, but like having Yeah, because I 843 00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:40.519 totally agree with you. The cuts are going to come out. We're going 844 00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:45.559 to have no context for why any of this happened. Yeah, And as 845 00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:51.639 someone you know, I'm very much attracted to the personnel side of these leagues 846 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.679 and doing deep dives into the rosters and the players and the depth charts and 847 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.360 you know, everything like that, and you know kind of feel like you're 848 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.239 getting hung out to drive by the leagues because you have no idea what's going 849 00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:07.880 on with with any of the teams or anything like that unless you get on 850 00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:12.039 the immediate availability with a head coach and you know they're not gonna say much. 851 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.159 I don't think in terms of and again it's very early, so you 852 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:20.159 know, I know coach Holts mentioned in terms of the quarterbacks, they're they're 853 00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.599 all he doesn't have a depth chart right now, which understandable. But you 854 00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:28.760 know he's seen jmr Smith for three years, uh so he knows what he's 855 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.840 got in him. And then he's got a couple of new quarterbacks in there, 856 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:36.960 another holdover I believe he's got on that team as well. So yeah, 857 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.960 it's it's just a waiting game now. Yeah, Joshua Lewin, Yeah, 858 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.159 that was the guy. And I do I think that too. And 859 00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:46.800 I think when this this will get deeper in and you know, you'll have 860 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.800 like I'm a pad that's like the BattleHawks calls and stuff like that. But 861 00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.920 I do think a lot of the casual guys, like most of the mainstream 862 00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:59.239 media like don't even wouldn't even know enough for carrot, Like it's it's still 863 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:00.400 more about like, okay, tell me about this league, Like tell me 864 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.679 about like what is the vision for And I remember when they were used to 865 00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.320 do the the the USFL stuff, and like they would have all these guys, 866 00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:10.800 you know, they would send never to us, but they would send 867 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:14.480 them to whatever, you know, big mainstream and like I would love to 868 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.039 watch any USFL or XFL podcast. For the first five minutes of the interview, 869 00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:20.760 isn't explained like this is what the XFL is like, it'd be really 870 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.199 cool just to come on and be able to ask, like the same with 871 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:23.880 the coaches, you know, they're still like, well, what's it? 872 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:27.800 You know, like heines Ward was always gonna what was it? Feel like? 873 00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.079 Coaching, it's like why don't you ask about the team at some point 874 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:31.880 versus like, okay, what's his you know? And obviously he's gone now, 875 00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.239 but you know what, but those I mean, those those mainstream all 876 00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:38.440 let's know their audience, right, and they know that their audience isn't familiar 877 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:42.079 with this league, so they've got to kind of set the groundwork in their 878 00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.400 own articles for what this league is. Because you know, if you're covering 879 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.360 the san Antonio Bramas, you're talking to hines Ward about the ins and outs 880 00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.119 of the third wide receiver, someone someone reading this article is gonna be like, 881 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.679 wait, san Antonio Bramas, what the heck is that? Like? 882 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:58.760 So, I mean, the idea of you know, who's winning the third 883 00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.599 wide receiver in camp is going to be so far removed from what a lot 884 00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:06.159 of the people unfortunately reading that article are going to be interested in are going 885 00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:08.559 to be thinking about, Yeah, well then and then this is what are 886 00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:14.159 we doing here. That's why we're here, to provide a little more in 887 00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:17.880 depth knowledge for those who seek it. It was funny that woman that was 888 00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:21.039 getting my keys, and I was like, yeah, I gotta get like, 889 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:22.440 oh, like shit, you must be like no a lot, you 890 00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:24.039 must do it. No, no, no, no, no no. 891 00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:29.880 I talked to very smart people. I just asked the question, Hey, 892 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.079 hey, you're very well connected, and that's just as important. That's just 893 00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:37.159 as important. Are you surprised just rounding out quarterbacks? You surprise boy Brandon 894 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:43.360 Silvers? Is he? Are we just aged out? Uh? He's with 895 00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:46.239 the Battle Hall, is he? Oh? He's the back He's like okay, 896 00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.079 that's right, okay, okay, okay. Are you surprised that he's 897 00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.760 not in a more prominent role? No, yeah, I thought he was 898 00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:57.079 with that I did. That was like a late night Friday thing. I 899 00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.599 think that was right before I'm on the cruise and that that was. That 900 00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.880 was Anthony Betts had been teasing a big, big addition and then they released 901 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:08.079 the Brandon Silvers news and people were like, what that's right, that's right. 902 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:12.679 No, But look, I I was really you know, for as 903 00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:17.599 well as Houston did last year. At times, I was not impressed with 904 00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:25.320 Silver's body of work in that offense, so to see him come back as 905 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:30.320 a backup doesn't surprise me. Now, Saint Louis is gonna have a very 906 00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:37.519 strong backup quarterback. I mean that is that is a really good one two 907 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.360 punch. I mean, Silver's I would say average starting quarterback. But when 908 00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:44.639 you when you talk about him as a backup, I think he's gonna be 909 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:45.320 one of the best in the league, to be quite frank with you, 910 00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:52.079 So a good addition for Saint Louis, but as a backup, not as 911 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:57.320 a starter. I just remember doing that interview with him, and he's just 912 00:57:57.400 --> 00:58:00.159 like, yeah, I'm in the truck, like I go fish here on 913 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.039 the weekends. Like I think, I bet he's in a good spot. 914 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.840 I mean, I think it's a far cry from the XFL twenty twenty fan 915 00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:09.000 event when he was announced and stuff and I have my signed shirt somewhere, 916 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:12.280 you know. But yeah, I mean he had his time in the sun. 917 00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.079 His happened quarter what was it quarter million from the XFL twenty twenty. 918 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.639 I mean, you know, you think about it those four years ago. 919 00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:22.000 I mean he's four years older now than he was then, So you know, 920 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:24.639 being you know, transitioning from starter to back up in that time is 921 00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:30.280 not you know, completely unusual. Yeah. Yeah, well Greg will wrap 922 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:34.239 up here Comic Bins. They're going to check it out last night. That's 923 00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.199 great. Yeah, weird time. I appreciate Greg making the time later and 924 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:38.280 I want to keep him up too late here on the East Coast, but 925 00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:42.679 I appreciate it. Like I said, I'm doing more, try to get 926 00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:45.519 some interviews this week now that kind of everybody's there, we've kind of on 927 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.719 board, but it's it's every like I deal with this with the CFL Tunic. 928 00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:51.880 We're so busy. I'm like I understand that, like this is but 929 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.079 this is when everybody wants to talk to you. So but we've tried to 930 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.159 do that, working on big interviews for that coming up here in the next 931 00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:00.559 couple of weeks. And then like I said, you know, maybe we'll 932 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.960 do once like we get through the combine, like maybe John Logo can come 933 00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.679 on or something and talk about some cuts once we get through the roster. 934 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.639 That was like this week, I'm like, this is horrendous because like a 935 00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:12.599 lot of football people are you know, like the Rick Sarah Tello's of the 936 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.280 world. The John Vogels are like doing combine stuff, so thankfully we're not 937 00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:17.800 in the weeds that much. I mean, that's like their real jobs. 938 00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.480 Yeah, it's kind of that. I know, when I'm done talking to 939 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.960 you, I'm going to go watch today's workouts for the combine. But you 940 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:29.800 know, it's kind of that rough period because there's you know, for the 941 00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:32.599 UFL, there's training camp, but again, we don't have a lot of 942 00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:36.360 news to talk about coming out of that. So it's it's not we haven't 943 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.880 quite reached cuts yet. We're after the all the roster additions, but we 944 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:43.440 haven't reached cuts yet, and there's not a lot of news coming out of 945 00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:45.920 training camp. So we're kind of for the UFL in a little bit. 946 00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:47.599 As much as there is still going on, it's a little bit of a 947 00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:51.679 dead period for news and things to talk about. Anyway, Well, Greg, 948 00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:54.320 I appreciate you tiptoeing here for an hour as we kind of talked about 949 00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.840 news. Kind of didn't but I think that would be good. I appreciate 950 00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:01.519 it. Check out all Greg's on UFL board. Really, I mean, 951 01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:05.079 I know Martin Nelson's, but really the one man show there. It's kind 952 01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:07.800 of like Mike and the Anthony on the Sports Illustrated Like I just I hope 953 01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:10.920 that that is appreciated by the leagues. Like the work doing I mean, 954 01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:14.760 I I come here and talk for that. That's not a challenging like the 955 01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:16.519 work that all you writers are doing. I'm always plowing away by all that 956 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:21.119 and just the time spent. So I hope that that's appreciated by any coaches 957 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.400 or players or league people, because it needs to be said. So of 958 01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.800 course, you know, I do it because I love it. I enjoy 959 01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:32.079 writing, I enjoy analyzing and covering football, and the second it stops being 960 01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:36.599 fun, I stop doing it. You know, it's it's not my livelihood. 961 01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.119 So I'm kind of doing it as a side gig and I'm enjoying it 962 01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:43.760 and getting as much out of it as I can. So yeah, I 963 01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:45.480 hope everybody checks it out ufl board dot com. I have a couple of 964 01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:51.719 columns every week and check them out. Well, thanks Greg, enjoy the 965 01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:54.800 combine. I'm like my heart, I'm on this Caleb Williams train right now, 966 01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.400 and I don't know understand, And then Drake May is going to be 967 01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.719 a bust and then I don't Jane d Annuals is two pron like I'm really 968 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:05.119 this is like all of my mind right now. This is yeah for the 969 01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.920 Commanders. Man, you're into over analyzation season at this point, and from 970 01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:13.239 this point forward until the draft, you might as well just tune out every 971 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:16.920 scouting report you hear it because it's just gonna be contradictory information. It's going 972 01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:21.480 to be uh, smoke screens, it's gonna be all kinds of stuff, 973 01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:23.119 and you're not gonna be able to live and die with every one of them. 974 01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:27.960 So just tune all that out, man, every because every single one 975 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.920 because like I've never i mean Seahawks and we never really lived there, you 976 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:34.119 know. I was never as hardcoreus now, and like He's like, every 977 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.000 single one is different. It's either gonna be like then, oh and now 978 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.280 I'm hearing Caleb's the bus and he's gonna he would be should have gone in 979 01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:44.920 the fifth round. So yeah, the truth is always somewhere in between. 980 01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:49.039 So we'll see awesome, Greg, thank you so much, appreciate everybody, 981 01:01:49.079 --> 01:02:00.280 and we'll see you next time. I'm not s