WEBVTT 1 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.479 Well, the USL lives here today on a Monday. Apparently, if you're 2 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:46.039 following Josh Gerban on Twitter, that might be a short for later today. 3 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.399 We'll figure all that out. I have a feeling we're going to be having 4 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:54.000 some XFL USFL news coming out this week. Should be excited but happy victory 5 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.840 Monday, unless you are a San Francisco Fort Niners fan. Sorry Matt Baker 6 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.640 or Anthony Miller with the Philadelphia Hopefully the Cowboys will follow a suit tonight. 7 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:06.280 I know a gentleman here that lived through rivetying Sunday night game last night, 8 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.239 which I do want to talk about as it relates to the CFL in this 9 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.799 with Jason Hussein then Evan at Rams looking good, put the Cardinals to bed. 10 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.680 Are How are we doing today, guys, I'm doing good. Raid 11 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.280 thanks for having me as always, and I mean yeah, my football teams 12 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:22.359 that chair four tried to give me a heart attack this weekend, but I'm 13 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.680 ultimately I'm still alive. Yeah, I had doated. I think I had 14 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:29.680 put it in the group chat. I said, if the tie Cats be 15 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:32.159 the Lions this weekend, I'm not going to Great Cup. I can't look 16 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.000 at Hussey. I can't look at Hussey in the face. I can after 17 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:38.280 all the smack talking crazy weekend to see if I will get into that. 18 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:42.280 Evan, I thought NFL was good. It was exciting. Yeah, I 19 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:45.599 mean, you know, NFL really we're getting into the thick of things with 20 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.280 the NFL, whereas the CFL, you know, just wrapped up Week nineteen 21 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.879 really feels like, you know, we're in the last last bit of things 22 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:56.359 before the playoffs. So it's two different worlds for sure. But no, 23 00:01:56.480 --> 00:02:00.400 I enjoyed the NFL this weekend, so I wanted to get into that first 24 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:04.760 because obviously we lived through the Bills. Was it the Bills Giants game last 25 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.359 night? Fourteen to nine, I think was the final scarred with I was 26 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:08.439 like, hey, Mom, let us come over, like this will be 27 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:12.039 excited, like she loves Josh Allen, Like this will be good. We'll 28 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.240 go watch the game. But a really really slow game, right, you 29 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.800 know, six zero at half, and we had all that kerfuffle with all 30 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:21.879 of that, and you know, this is these are the games that you 31 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.919 always have the CFL people like this is the no fun league. This as 32 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:28.080 the matter. And I'm curious Jason, because obviously, and I'm gonna get 33 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:31.080 Evan's thoughts as well. Like there's many a time when I get a notification 34 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:37.639 on my phone like Montreal Alouette's at Redblacks games start zero zero and then I'll 35 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:42.159 get the notification like Montreal Alts and whatever. Second quarter start zero zero and 36 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:44.199 I'm like, oh God, like this is you know, these are not 37 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:46.439 like Jason, do you what do you make of that? Just in terms 38 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:50.560 of like, I mean, it's still riveting game last night? Like are 39 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.120 you do you view them the same with the CFL? Like when you get 40 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.400 some of these slow games, like how did you view the game last night? 41 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.520 I'm curious. I know your Bills fan too, but kind of remove 42 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:00.560 that. Yeah, I mean it was it was an awful football game, 43 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.240 but I just view it as you know, you know, both leagues. 44 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.400 You know, bad football is bad football, and I don't think that you 45 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:09.680 know, you know, I think you know the CFL the bad games are 46 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:14.360 more like you know, pointed too, because there's only four of them on 47 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.960 each week, and you have these games not running like concurrently with other games, 48 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:21.879 So I think that they kind of stand out a lot more like a 49 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:23.879 sore thumb. But I think at the end of the day, you know, 50 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:25.800 a bad football game was a bad football game, and the NFL has 51 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:30.039 had lots of bad primetime games the last couple of years. Yeah, they 52 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.360 got to figure that out. And I don't know. I mean, the 53 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:37.919 Bills were super flat against the Jaguars in London, and obviously like the bye 54 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.159 week or the travel and like the Jaguars were there and they didn't have to 55 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:43.599 travel. Because my mom's sitting there, She's like, I think, Josh 56 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:46.719 Allen is you know Jet Leg I mean the game was last Sunday. I 57 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.199 mean, I can't imagine it was. Evan, what did you what did 58 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.599 you make of this? I'm kind of curious. I mean, you know 59 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:59.319 in terms of the Bills, like in terms of I mean, it was 60 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:01.439 very much like that. You what I say reminds me of the Chiefs Broncos 61 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:03.000 from last year. And he said, no, one, what's not I 62 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:06.719 mean, like it is puts these games on a pedestal because it's the CFL, 63 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:10.919 because you got four games, I mean these primetime NFL games. But 64 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:14.960 like I think the NFL benefits from having nine games playing co currently on a 65 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:17.360 Sunday a lot. Oh well, absolutely I mean in the CFL, with 66 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.000 the number of teams, you're always kind of in primetime, you know, 67 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:24.120 you don't. I mean, yeah, you're you're gonna have games, you 68 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:27.920 know, on the same day, but usually not at the same time. 69 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:31.600 So you know that means you're gonna have more eyes concentrating on it if you 70 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:35.800 were following that league, just like in the NFL. I mean the contrast, 71 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:41.000 you know, between games that are in primetime and aren't in primetime. 72 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:44.720 You know, so take like one of the games from the I guess it's 73 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.439 one o'clock Eastern Slate. You know, those aren't going to be nearly talked 74 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:50.879 about as much as you know, Bill's Giants, even if you know Bill's 75 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.680 Giants wasn't one of the better games of the day. So yeah, I 76 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.079 just Patty a little bit. I don't know if we have an hours we're 77 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:00.639 at the CFL, like need week nineteen stuff to talk about. But I 78 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.879 will just say, like to Mike Mike Mitchell's of the world like, yeah, 79 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:08.519 he's were watching the Jets game yesterday and oh everyone hates the Jets, 80 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.959 said at least they talk about the Jets like we No one talks about the 81 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.399 commanders. We don't like the commanders going to talk at least he talk. 82 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:17.079 I mean at least the Jets you know, you know, skip Bayless and 83 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.600 whatever every day. So Jason, let's get into this. Do we learn 84 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:25.480 so from the standings Lions were able to hold up out. I got a 85 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.079 little worried there. We'll get into all that stuff. But why did we 86 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.360 lock in here Alouette's home picture, You're like, what what was the playoff 87 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.800 implications coming out of the weekend? So with Hamilton picking up the loss on 88 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.839 Friday night, they are locked in the third in the East, so you 89 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.879 know, Montreal is going to be hosting that East semi final against Hamilton. 90 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.800 So basically the East is all set, and then in the West, Calgary 91 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:49.680 keeps its playoff hopes alive. They're very much alive with you know, two 92 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.319 games left in the season. Saskatchwan has one more win right now, but 93 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.800 they only have one more game remaining, so Calgary technically controls its own destiny. 94 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.199 But they have a couple of really tough games against BC in Winnipeg the 95 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.920 last couple of weeks of the season, so we't to see how it plays 96 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.560 out. So they would have to win out. Then let me get the 97 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:12.199 schedulep here. So Calgary at BC, but obviously BC wants to maintain, 98 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:15.600 right, they don't want to drop. I mean, is BC hoping that 99 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.560 that Edmonton comes in and plays spoilers? That kind of where we're at, 100 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.480 Yeah, exactly, Winnipeg has to lose the last two games and BC has 101 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:26.800 to win this game on Friday night against Calgary to have any shot at first 102 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:31.040 and Calgary still could make it if even if they lose against BC on Friday 103 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:34.759 night, because now with the win on Friday, they have the tiebreaker over 104 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:41.839 Saskatchwan. So if Saskatchwe loses this weekend, Calgary loses as well. Calgary 105 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.879 just have to beat Winnipeg the last week of the season in order to make 106 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.439 the playoffs. So, you know, Calgary big victory on Friday. It 107 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:53.879 just feels like Saskatchewan's really running on fumes right now. Is that how you 108 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.800 Evan? Is that how you take it? It seems like the right to 109 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.639 me, this is a far more juice here. You know, Tiger Cats 110 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:05.439 going into Montreal here and potentially playing upsever I don't think DC has any issue 111 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:09.040 taking care of either of these teams. Right now it seems very lost. 112 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:11.560 Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, for a long time I 113 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.720 was saying Saskatchewan like they they had things figured out. You know, they 114 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.199 weren't anything special, but at the same time, like they were able to 115 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.720 get the job done. And you know, they were that they were six 116 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:25.920 and five at one point, you know, they were above five hundred I 117 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:30.519 believe at one time. But now they've lost you know, six games straight, 118 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.120 and even that, you know, going into that Calgary game when they 119 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:38.560 had lost five straight, I suppose I wasn't too concerned still about them. 120 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:42.399 I thought, you know, Calgary again is still the slower team, you 121 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:44.639 know, and they won't have a problem with that, and you know, 122 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.120 we'll get into that game because to me, that was probably you know, 123 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.879 the most impactful one of the week, without a doubt. But yeah, 124 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:56.199 they didn't, you know, and now now you're kind of you've kind of 125 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.160 hit the panic button. I think if you're a Saskatchewan fan, you know, 126 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.319 everything was kind of fine. You know, things were going along as 127 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.680 usual. You know, you playoff spot it it didn't look like again like 128 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:11.199 there wasn't there just wasn't that much competition. But you start racking up these 129 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.839 losses late in the season and in a twenty one week season, you know, 130 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.959 that can continue for a long time. You know. Now Saskatchewan's at 131 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.959 a point where, you know, oh, like they really got to they 132 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.920 really got to tighten in here in the past couple of games. But I 133 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.160 think what's honestly, just in the bigger picture a bit disappointing is you know 134 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:33.320 we're talking about the way I'm phrasing this. You know, if you were 135 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.320 somebody who didn't know the records, you think that this would be like, 136 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.399 you know, Bill's Chiefs fighting for a playoff spot. But really it's more 137 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.519 like, you know, I don't know, I dare bring up examples in 138 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.159 the NFL, but it's just like when the Buccaneers. It's like when the 139 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.519 Buccaneers was saying the Panthers last year and they were trying to win the win 140 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:58.440 the NFC South, right, the Buccaneers get seven to nine here, they 141 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.879 can win the division again. I mean, it's a pretty it's a pretty 142 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.639 tough, you know battle being fought when both of these teams, you know, 143 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:09.039 haven't even reached the seven win mark yet, and you know, we've 144 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.519 been watching both of these teams all season, and you know, I've been 145 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:15.720 saying all along, you know that last playoffs bought was gonna come down to 146 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.039 Saskatchewan or Calgary. But it's very interesting again, you know, we're sitting 147 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:24.720 here this late in the season and now you never think you would say this, 148 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.159 given how things were just a couple of weeks ago. But I think 149 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.720 a lot of people would rather see Edmonton in the playoffs now over both of 150 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.879 those teams, you know, And that's a very again, very interesting takeaway. 151 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.960 I know Matt Dunagan was talking about that, you know, on the 152 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:45.480 panel during halftime of this game on TSN, you know, just talking about 153 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.600 you know, Edmonton honestly has more momentum even though they'd been eliminated than really 154 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.519 either of those teams. He was kind of laying in the Calgary more at 155 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:54.840 the time because that was the must win game for them and they were down 156 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.279 at half. But yeah, you know, Saskatchewan clearly is kind of in 157 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.679 the same boat. So it's tough. You know, it's tough because to 158 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:05.639 be honest, like, you know, it'll be interesting to see who gets 159 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:07.480 the spot at the end of the day. You know, a couple of 160 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.840 interesting things now, can happen here down the stretch. But let's be honest, 161 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:13.240 like either one of those teams, you know, the Lions are just 162 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.960 kind of sitting there like I mean, I hate to sound disrespectful, you 163 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.879 know, and I again, you know, all all due respect to to 164 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.799 Calgary and Saskatchewan, but you know, to b C, like for all 165 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.679 intensive purposes, it's almost a body week for them, you know, in 166 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.799 a way, it's just kind of like, well, we're going to have 167 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.559 a home game. You know, someone's gonna come in, and I understand 168 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.360 anything can happen, right, I mean the second I say that, everybody 169 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.200 you know gets excited, and you know, there's a there's a different level 170 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.039 of energy. So I certainly hope that, you know, if I say 171 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.960 something like that, that maybe one of those teams will go in there with 172 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:50.000 a different energy and make the game competitive. I don't know, but yeah, 173 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.639 I understand BC's you know, had their struggles and they've lost some games 174 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.879 they should have won whatever, But I don't know. Man, if b 175 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.879 C, I'll just say this, you know, before we actually get into 176 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:05.480 the games here. Before what was I gonna say before? Uh? I 177 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:11.360 mean, I don't know if BC were to lose this game and we see 178 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.879 potentially Saskatchewan or Calgary, you know, in the West Final that that would 179 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:22.000 be I don't know, I I don't know that would be that would be 180 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:26.879 something that would be really something one of those teams against Winnipeg. I mean, 181 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.799 I feel like Saskatchewan would have the best chance of taking down BC and 182 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.519 you know, pulling the what would be the upset of the year, and 183 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.240 then going into Winnipeg. But I don't know. I mean again, like 184 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.639 I'm ninety nine percent certain PC's gonna win that game, but you can never 185 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:48.279 leave it off the table. Well, and just especially with no disrespect to 186 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:52.440 you know, Rick Campbell and everything we've talked about. This hasn't always felt 187 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.399 like the Lions are always like showing up to all these games. I think 188 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.720 the Bills were a little sleepy last night. Yeah, it's a Giants whatever 189 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:03.200 them. As I break my microphone here, I hope, I hope the 190 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.960 Commanders don't feel that way next week as well, you know, taking on 191 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.559 the Giants. But it's interesting you're talking about. Yeah, there's one of 192 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.440 the Twitter accounts, like Jock Cartier or whatever falls me, and he's has 193 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:18.879 advocated like you know, we get tray Ford and kind of get the leftovers. 194 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:20.559 We'll do the traveling team and all that because they did, and we'll 195 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.480 talk that the elks here. But you know, like Kevin Brown coming on 196 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:26.559 the show last week, who I thought, you know, delightful, man, 197 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:28.799 was so on time I do all these We' found a lot of player 198 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.120 interviews lately where it's like, hey, it's going to be noon Pacific. 199 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.879 I'm like, okay, so I get on there nothing nothing, you know 200 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.840 that I text that, you know, the people that are trying to set 201 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:41.360 it up, you know, not the player, Like okay, let me 202 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.519 get in touch with them. And then they're like, oh you want to 203 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:45.840 do that now, like oh okay, is that video? Okay? Like 204 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:46.840 okay, hang on, like you know, next thing, you know, 205 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.679 it's like one forty five and I'm like, I've you know, I work 206 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.159 from home, but I've devoted two hours to get in this whatever. Kevin 207 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.120 Brown, you know, twelve fifty nine, he's sitting there one o'clock log 208 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.960 in like he's ready to go. So I appreciate that and the od the 209 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.399 day, but he was talking a lot. We have a lot of momentum 210 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:07.960 right now going in and we're playing this like we have a lot to play 211 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.240 for for next year and a lodger proof. So I like that, I 212 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.720 mean Edmonton, And yeah, this game where they're coming into Winnipeg next week, 213 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.519 like, you know, I don't, I don't take it off the 214 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.879 table. I mean, Winnipeg is really really good. But I do feel 215 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:20.720 like Edmonton's got ahead of steam right now, at least, you know, 216 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:26.080 I know that the records and Sandys all that stuff, But Jason, any 217 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.320 other thoughts on that before we get into the games. I knew they I 218 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:30.639 know they blewed the whatever I was trying to look up the lead they blew 219 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.759 against them Montreal, But overall, it feels like we have a little bit 220 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.519 more going. Yeah, I mean yeah, I do think Edmonton in general 221 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.759 has looked the best of those three teams Calgary, Saskatchewan and Edmonton the last 222 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:43.360 half of the season. But at the end of the day, Edmonton made 223 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.559 its own bed with how they started the season. And I think that even 224 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.000 lately they've had a couple of very disappointing games. I thought that, you 225 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:54.159 know, we'll get into it. But the twenty one to three blown lead, 226 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.840 I think it was twenty one to three lead that they blew in this 227 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:58.879 game. And they blew it within one quarter too, So they had the 228 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.840 lead at the end of the first quarter and then they blew it by halftime. 229 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.519 So I mean, I don't feel too bad, but bad for Edmonton. 230 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:07.200 I just wish we could have like a two game series between BC and 231 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:11.639 Winnipeg to the side first place in the West. Yeah, I'm a bigger 232 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:16.320 bue lead the twenty one to three the Edmonton had or Colorado? Was it 233 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.720 twenty was it twenty nine to zero? And the keVs tweeting or posting on 234 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:24.960 Instagram as merchandise links at halftime? I'm like, this is anyway, so 235 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:30.440 let's get into this. Ottawa nothing to play for at all at all led 236 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.039 for a good portion of this game. Toronto, you know, still putting 237 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:35.799 up the forty burger. Chad Kelly in the game for a lot of this 238 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.039 Duke's looking good, Evan, what did you make of this? Like, 239 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:41.559 because I'm sitting there watching the score come down, I'm like, this is 240 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:45.320 crazy, Like why is I mean, Ottaway has just looked like do you 241 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.720 do here for a while? What did you make? Yeah? I mean, 242 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:50.360 you know, this was a game I actually expected Ottawa to win, 243 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.440 but at the same time I didn't realize, you know, Toronto's got this 244 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.440 thing going on where it's like they don't pull all their starters but at the 245 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.960 same time working other guys in, so you kind of get this mixed bag 246 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.279 of like the team that we've seen all season and then sort of like more 247 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.919 like a preseason element where you're just testing depth and all that. But I 248 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:13.879 really expected Autowo win this game. And you know it's another I understand you 249 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.600 have nothing to play for, but it would be nice to, you know, 250 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:22.519 go into Toronto and you know, play the best team in the league 251 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:24.320 and get a win, you know, just for the sort of culture and 252 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.879 moral victory more than anything. But they weren't able to do that. You 253 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.200 know, Toronto still scored forty points, you know, with only some of 254 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.759 their starters really in for a majority of the game, so that was a 255 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.399 bit of a red flag. I didn't catch too much of this game, 256 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:43.679 I know. You know, on the Ottawa side, they had some guys 257 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.919 you know, worked in, like a Tyrell Pigrom at quarterback. They were 258 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:52.039 kind of testing some things out too. From what I heard. A lot 259 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.240 of lost fumbles in this game seemed like there was a bit of a ball 260 00:15:54.279 --> 00:16:00.120 control issue, you know, between Crumb and Pigrom. I think they're might 261 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:04.039 have been three lost fumbles or something like that. So Toronto, you know, 262 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:10.360 definitely getting some work in there. One of the interesting storylines for me 263 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:11.720 in this game. You know, that's very kind of niche, but I'll 264 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:18.559 bring it up anyway. Elijah McGhee, whose rights were claimed by the Roughnecks 265 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:22.000 in the XFL. This was his first game in Ottawa. I believe he 266 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:26.399 was on the practice roster before this and got called up for this game and 267 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:27.919 you know, register to tackle. So good to see that. You know, 268 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:32.080 it could be a well, I don't even know if I can say 269 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.919 XFL guy anymore in the future, UFL guy and SFL guy, I don't 270 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.480 know, but it could be could be a part of that pool later on, 271 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:41.159 so you know, keep an eye on guys like that. And who 272 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:44.960 knows, maybe a couple of these other American guys will be too. You 273 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:47.679 know, I'm sure i'll get some heat for saying that, but oh well, 274 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.480 on the Toronto side, yeah, you know, Chad Kelly again, 275 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:59.799 even though he even though you could argue like he maybe shouldn't be playing at 276 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:02.960 this point in the season. Still went out there and and put on a 277 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.319 decent game, you know, throwing to you know, some different guys like 278 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:11.799 Richie So and Danny getting worked in there, Tommy Neal, Deontay McMahon, 279 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:15.640 you know, again having a decent you know, scoring a touchdown. You 280 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.599 know, he's getting worked in. That's nice to see somebody that I know 281 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:23.359 personally, so you know, obviously always take that heart. But yeah, 282 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.200 other than that, not too much to talk about in terms of this game. 283 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:33.079 Just really you know, yeah, Toronto I think had like Ottawa had 284 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:34.720 a very strong first half. I'll say that I because I watched a bit 285 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:37.759 of the first half. I think they put up like twenty four or something 286 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:41.759 like that, and in Toronto just kind of came out swinging in the third 287 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.680 quarter, you know, fourteen points, and then Ottawa didn't score at all 288 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.880 in the fourth and then by that point it was just kind of a just 289 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.480 kind of out of reach. So it's too bad, you know, a 290 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:53.200 team like that. Again, you know, I know, you have nothing 291 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.079 to play for and a lot of people don't care about that game. But 292 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.400 if I'm an Autawa fan, it's like, well, let's just you know, 293 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:03.119 have a bit of fun in these last couple of weeks, But losing 294 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.039 a game like that, I wouldn't necessarily say it's fun, especially when you 295 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.440 had a big lead and think you only had you know, three points total 296 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:11.759 in the second half. So yeah, I mean, again, as we've 297 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.640 said before, a lot of work to be done in Ottawa. You know, 298 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:17.920 we'll see what they do in the off season in terms of you know, 299 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:21.880 coaches and some of their key positions. But yeah, I think they've 300 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:25.880 got some work to do for sure in terms of and I want to get 301 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:29.480 Jason Statts on the quarterback stuff here for Toronto. But yeah, just looking 302 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:33.000 out of a late late bye I got that week twenty by, we're looking 303 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:38.039 forward to and then hosting Toronto again. So I mean, clearly not not 304 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:41.079 the greatest there in terms of this Chad Kelly thing, Jason, Like, 305 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.480 why why can't we see I know, Brian came in and didn't play great. 306 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.640 Why why aren't we giving these backups a little bit more? I just 307 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.480 don't understand putting chat in any harms wear it all right now. I think 308 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.279 it's mostly just because you know, this was their last home game of the 309 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.640 season. They still like a lot of teams, They still have two games 310 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:03.759 left, so they have a game at Saskatchwan and then at Ottawa as you 311 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.440 just said, So I think they're going to have the backups play the vast 312 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.920 majority, if not all, those games the last two weeks of the season. 313 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.279 So I don't think I'm too concerned yet, But yeah, it is 314 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.079 kind of confusing that they have played them basically the whole game for a couple 315 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.200 of these games the last couple of weeks. And we'll have to see how 316 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:23.839 they manage that the last couple of weeks. But I think that's what their 317 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:29.480 plan is. I thought it was interesting, and I had on was Eddie 318 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:33.039 Steele two weeks ago. We were talking about, Hey, you know the 319 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:36.720 resting people and these you know, all this stuff that's been going on, 320 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:38.039 and hey, you know, how do you prepare for this? And you 321 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.519 know, Eddie's like, they got the first round by right, you're playing 322 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:45.759 the thing that you got to get up for one home game and then be 323 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.519 in the playoffs. Is He's like, it's not an issue at all. 324 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.799 He's like, I would have no concern at all. You could rest everybody. 325 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:53.559 They they you know, you'd have that the kind of the double buy 326 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:59.039 going into that because I don't think they're playing you're missing the semi finals, 327 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:00.920 You're playing at home against Odawa the week before that. I just thought it 328 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:06.279 was interesting where he's talking about, just you know, from a player point 329 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:07.359 of view, because we sit here and talk a lot about that kind of 330 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.160 stuff. How did Ottawa look by your eyes, Jason, Like I said, 331 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.240 not a lot playing for here. What did you make? Well? 332 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:18.160 It was kind of deja voud to the last game that we saw between these 333 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:22.519 two teams, or the previous game between these two teams this season, where 334 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.599 Ottawa had one of their better offensive showings of the year, but again they 335 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.680 just could not stop anyone defensively. And you know, they had a really 336 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:34.200 strong first half offensively Dustin crumbin company, but ultimately they fizzled out in the 337 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.559 second half, like Evan was saying, And I think at the end of 338 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:40.759 the day, you know, Ottawa just still has a ton to work on 339 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.279 if they're going to beat a team like Toronto. They have not beat an 340 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:48.799 Eastern opponent this season, and I think that is the most telling stat about 341 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:53.079 their season so far. I'll guess we'll go Evan first, in terms of 342 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:56.640 I when Farha was on last week and we've talked and Bob Dyce and other 343 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.279 so far Han doesn't expect Sean Berg to go the GM there or Bob Diyce 344 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:04.599 to go Barhunt expects kind of a minimal changer. Does that surprise you, 345 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.680 Evan? And then we'll get Jason's thoughts. Yes and no. I mean 346 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:12.119 in a league like the CFL, you know, the pool of guys that 347 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:17.039 you can pick from in terms of replacements is very thin, you know. 348 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:19.400 And I listened to the show that you had last week with Farhan and I 349 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.400 did agree, you know, to an extent about a lot of the things 350 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.000 that he was saying with some of these questionable situations, not just with Ottawa, 351 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:29.720 you know, but with Edmonton and you know, all the other teams 352 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.200 that have struggled Calgary. You know, like you could, you know, 353 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.960 kind of clean house and just you know, do a rebuild. But in 354 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:42.079 Ottawa's positions specifically, they've been rebuilding for so long that if you just keep 355 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:45.920 changing things up, you're almost delaying the progress. So I think even if 356 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.839 they are, you know, dissatisfied with the results from this year, I 357 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.519 mean again, you know, if you just bring new guys in, I 358 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.759 mean, then you're essentially like it takes so long to get that going. 359 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.839 It's like, well, you know what next? You even count because then 360 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:02.839 you got to you know, you got to retool everything. And I don't 361 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:07.160 know, I think they're just trying to stay afloat right now more than anything. 362 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:08.319 And you know, that's tough. It's a difficult spot. I don't 363 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:11.640 think it's what a lot of fans want to see. I mean, we 364 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:15.960 often, you know, push for change and things like that very quickly, 365 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:18.559 you know. But yeah, I think the CFL, you know, you 366 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.119 kind of got to pace yourself because you look around and it's like the amount 367 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.839 of experienced guys who could come in and make you know, an immediate impact 368 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.680 right away. It's not a very big group, you know, because in 369 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.119 the NFL, we've got thirty two teams to pick from in terms of you 370 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.759 know, coaching hires and things like that, like who do I want who's 371 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:41.440 done a good job this year? In the CFL, there's not that many. 372 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.160 You know, there's nine teams and let's say, you know, only 373 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.359 four or five of those teams have actually done well, uh this season? 374 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:53.079 You know that's even less right, So I don't know, like I understand, 375 00:22:53.119 --> 00:23:00.200 like it should be surprising, but I'm not surprised, just because like 376 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.160 I understand the approach, I guess is what I'm trying to say, and 377 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.960 I agree with it. I agree with it. It's hard, Like you 378 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.039 know, I think Commanders one yesterday against the Falcons and obviously, but you 379 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:12.400 know, you always want to win. But I almost am like if the 380 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.279 Commander is just sunk all season and then you know, Ron Rivera gets embarrassed 381 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:18.759 with the new ownership that you know, you almost hope because when you're in 382 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:22.200 this kind of perennial, like you said, rebuilding, I'm like, well, 383 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.640 we're we're kind of always I felt like that was the Raiders for years, 384 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.480 and like we're kind of with Derek Carr and we're always kind of going 385 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.680 to be in the playoffs. But you know, even if we make it 386 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.519 to the playoffs, you're not going to win. You're talking about the kind 387 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:37.680 of the number of people out there eligible to sign, and I mean know 388 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:41.799 even just for this remember we had a Toronto extending Corey Mace this week where 389 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.640 I think Jason, I think we were talking in the chat like this is 390 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:48.720 someone that very much could have been a head coach somewhere, right Tronta locking 391 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.480 him down. Thoughts on that and kind of the question about the Red Blacks 392 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.920 coaching stuff. Yeah, I mean I think, you know, I don't 393 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:00.000 think this uh signing of a defensive coordinator Dan Extension. I don't think it 394 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:04.279 prevents him from being a head coach next season necessarily. So I think there's 395 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.200 always outs too, you know, if a team wants to hire him as 396 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.160 a head coach. So that's something to keep in mind. But yeah, 397 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.680 I don't think with Ottawa that, you know, I think they're just kind 398 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:18.920 of lost as an organization right now because you know, they've changed all the 399 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.519 players a couple of offseasons ago. They've had terrible luck with injuries in terms 400 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.279 of the you know, Jeremiah MAZZOLDI of it all and everything like that. 401 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:29.119 But I think at the end of the day, you know, I don't 402 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.720 think that Bob Dice is it as a head coach. I think Sean Burke 403 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:34.759 has done some good things in terms of, you know, replenishing the cup 404 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:38.559 board there because when he you know, took hold of this job, that 405 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:44.240 roster was so far behind the rest of the CFL back in what was the 406 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:47.400 twenty twenty one when he got hired. So I think he's done a good 407 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:51.960 job of making this team more competitive, but ultimately they're not getting you know, 408 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.839 them, you know, right decisions like in order to win the games. 409 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.599 And I think that, you know, they're still not as talented as 410 00:24:57.599 --> 00:25:00.680 a lot of teams around the cf I think, you know, their skill 411 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:06.160 position players lag behind the rest of the CFL for the most part. So 412 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.279 I think that, you know, it's hard to say what the problem is 413 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.559 in Oudawa if it's the coaching or is it, you know, just the 414 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.079 general lack of talent. But they've tried both. They've tried switching up the 415 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:18.920 coaches, they've tried switching up the players, and none of it seems to 416 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:22.480 be working. So I'm very interested to see what they do this offseason. 417 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:26.960 But as to whether or not they will make a change, I'm with Farhan. 418 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.640 I don't think that they're going to make a change in terms of the 419 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:33.279 GM or head coaching spot just because of you know, the coaches, operations, 420 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.880 cap the aspects involved. It's just funny. I remember it was going 421 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.880 into last year and they were doing that behind the R and they were doing 422 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.440 the documentary staff and we had Mazzoli and hey, we had a big surprise 423 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.480 coming and we're signing Mazzoli and all that, and they just kind of see 424 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.200 this, you know, kind of spiral down. Evan. Were we talking 425 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:56.440 in the chat like the Argos have more wins this year than the Ottawa has 426 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.680 since like their great Cup win or some some craziness like that. I mean, 427 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.000 it's just remarkable statistics. What did you make on that. It was 428 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:04.799 a couple of days ago. Yeah, well it's tied now, you know 429 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.880 now that Toronto beat Ottawa. They're fourteen and two. Ottawa is now fourteen 430 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.559 and fifty three. I think over the past three or four seasons something like 431 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:18.519 that, which is an incredible stat That is well, it's an incredibly sad 432 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.200 stat I should say, uh yeah, I feel really bad. And I 433 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.000 you know, Ottawa I was saying going into this season. You know, 434 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:26.519 keep in mind, this is you know, months ago, now like half 435 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.279 a year ago. I was saying like and even you know, even last 436 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.440 year, I because you know, the whole behind the R thing, which 437 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.359 I thought was great, and I'll just you know, pivot here for a 438 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.480 quick moment and say that, you know, the CFL has some great content 439 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.599 when it comes to you know, media and documentary type like I know BC 440 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:51.880 had one this year, I believe on their YouTube channel. Ottawa had you 441 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:53.960 know, the behind the r stuff. There was a couple others, but 442 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:56.400 you know, things like that, I think really, you know, like 443 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.000 I enjoy watching those, you know, and you know that some like they're 444 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.000 very well thought out, and you know, they they do like it's like, 445 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.440 I don't know for again, considering you know, how many things the 446 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.160 CFL could improve on that we all know about the fact that they've you know, 447 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.319 done well and at least presenting something to the fans like that, I 448 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.519 think is good. But anyways, like I was saying with Ottawa, you 449 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.720 know, this season, even last season, you know, I was saying, 450 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.559 like this has to be the year of change, you know, And 451 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:27.759 I'm not saying that if they do bad, you know, in one of 452 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.319 those years, whether it was last season or this season, that you clean 453 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.680 house. I didn't say that, but you know, like this franchise has 454 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.480 you know, struggled for so long, and I feel like a lot of 455 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:42.880 our attention, you know, was put on to Edmonton this season, just 456 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:47.319 because they had the slower start in Ottawa. You know, there was a 457 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.359 moment like they beat Winnipeg, you know, they had dust and crumb. 458 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.440 Things did look really good, you know, And I feel like I say 459 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.440 that every week. There was a time where it did look promising and I 460 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.160 was like, Okay, I'm not sure if you know they're back or whatever 461 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.799 you want to say, but but I feel like they've at least made some 462 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:04.720 progress. But yeah, here we are at the end of the season and 463 00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.079 I'm like, well, we're kind of just right back to square one, 464 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.079 you know, another season with like four wins, and I just I don't 465 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.960 know, I excuse me, I don't know, Like I just feel, 466 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.160 you know, if I'm a fan of that team, I would feel lost. 467 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:18.880 You know, I don't know where you go. And it kind of 468 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:23.319 feels like you've done everything you can in terms of a rebuild to make things 469 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.960 right, you know, and really the only thing you could do is get 470 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.240 rid of some jobs. But that's not going to help, you know, 471 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.519 because who are you going to replace them with? So you're kind of just 472 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.640 sitting there hoping. You're hoping that things are going to turn around. There 473 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:40.839 has to be a lot of hope. And that's not a very concrete substance 474 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.119 to put all your chips in. You know, we use the term pushing 475 00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.279 all your chips into the table like you're playing a poker game or something like. 476 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:51.799 It's not that's that's not the best approach, but like it's kind of 477 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.599 all they have. I mean, you think about I mean, we were 478 00:28:55.599 --> 00:29:00.000 you brought up the behind the r thing and the whole like that documentary was. 479 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.960 There was a lot of outlets in that documentary series, but the one 480 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.559 thing that they really focused on and built it around was the addition of Jeremiah 481 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:12.880 Massoli being our new franchise quarterback. And I don't know how many games specifically 482 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:18.039 Jeremiah Massoli has played in an Ottawa Red Blacks uniform, but it's not many, 483 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.640 you know, it's not nearly Yeah, five okay, yeah, across 484 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.759 two seasons. Keep in mind that not even one season across two seasons. 485 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:29.680 And that's you know, that's a frightening thought given that you know, out 486 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.359 of you know how many, I mean that's five out of if I can 487 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.279 do math, thirty six regular season games. Yeah, that's that's an abysmal 488 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:42.519 you know, number so again really unfortunate. Those were things that were out 489 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.440 of their control. And you know something, you know, this season. 490 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.960 I know you have to leave some things in the past, but sometimes I 491 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.200 still think about, you know, what happened with him and Garrett Marino in 492 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:57.920 Saskatchewan and how that was almost a domino effect for you know, how things 493 00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.039 have gone up to this point because I understand, like, you know, 494 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.920 his injuries this season were separate. It was a separate thing. You know, 495 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:10.200 he came back from that but got injured again. However, you can't 496 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.039 help but thinking like what if, Like what if that just never happened last 497 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:15.960 year and they just kind of kept on that trajectory. I mean, I 498 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.359 still don't think personally they would have been an elite team, but I feel 499 00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.160 like, you know, they still could have gotten into that sort of you 500 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.440 know where like the tie Cats are at right now, where you're like, 501 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.720 you're like eight wins, like you're you know, almost at five hundred, 502 00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:32.039 like looking at the playoffs, like I feel like they had enough to do 503 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.680 that. But when you don't have the direction and the stability, things fall 504 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:37.559 apart really quickly. So I'll stop rambling on about it. You know, 505 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.559 there are a lot of thoughts that I have around that. You know, 506 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.880 Ottawa is one of the teams where I've been pulling for him for a long 507 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.200 time, you know, even more maybe than Edmonton and a couple of these 508 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.680 other franchises that you know, would like to turn things around that going into 509 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.440 this season, you know, Montreal and Saskatchewan I think two big teams you 510 00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.759 know, with question marks given the shakeups there. I won't get into those 511 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.720 now, but my point being, you know, Ottawa, all I can 512 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.240 do now is hope. You know, I'm hoping that in twenty twenty four 513 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:07.759 they make the right decisions. Like you know, I trust, I know 514 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.759 people in their personnel department. I trust Sean Burke and and all those guys 515 00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.839 to make the right decisions. You just you have to hope people don't get 516 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.440 injured, and you know, you have to hope that, you know, 517 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:23.400 maybe your game management and certain decisions gets better from the coaching side, and 518 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.279 you just have to carry on. I mean, there's there's nothing much else 519 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.559 you can do at a certain point. So it's a tough spot, but 520 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.599 I you know, you do have to keep hope alive to some degree. 521 00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.920 For just remember, for every out of a Red Blacks loss at there, 522 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:42.000 Jenna, long time listener of the show is I'm set. Jenna is a 523 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.680 long time diehard Red Blacks. Jason, anything else on this, We'll get 524 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.880 to the other game. I think we've done good patting this out a little 525 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.279 bit, cause I'm like, I don't know we're going to get We're good 526 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:52.640 now. You know, we're thirty teen minutes saying we'll knock through these other 527 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.519 games, Jason, any other thoughts Red Blacks or Toronto. Yeah, I 528 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.960 just wanted to hammer home the point again that this team has not won a 529 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.799 single game against the East Division this year. They've been actually very you know 530 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.759 competitive against the West. They've had wins over Winnipeg, Calgary, Saskatchewan, 531 00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.759 but you know, other than that, like they have not been able to, 532 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:14.960 you know, beat the East Division. And I think that's the main 533 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.759 source of their problems. So let's get into this. And I got a 534 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.000 couple a couple of little tweets here to pull up Montreal a letts, you 535 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.599 know, like we said, Edmonton dropping at the twenty one to three. 536 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.279 I had a tweet here Dave Campbell talking in the last nine games the alex 537 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.960 nfeld a twenty two point lead over Winnipeg, fifteen point lead in the fourth 538 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:36.160 quarter on Labor Day, and eighteen point lead over the Alouettes and blew them 539 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.480 all on loss. That seven wins and the Edmonton Dugs hang on out a 540 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:43.920 winner too earlier, and that's eight and nine. Really tremendous here, Jason 541 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.240 will go to you first, what did you make of this? And then 542 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.440 we talked a little bit already. But Edmonton dropping, you know, Montreal 543 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.039 rolling back and having the big coming from behind. Yeah, I was really 544 00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:57.839 excited for Edmonton in this game, like the way it started in like like 545 00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.359 this is great, Like they could finish their seeds and oh, they have 546 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.200 one game next week against Winnipeg, but that's on the road. They could 547 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.799 finish their you know, homes late, you know, with a big win 548 00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.160 here, they'd have three home wins on the season. But ultimately they just 549 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:15.079 fell apart completely in that second quarter. And I mean Montreal just their pride 550 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:16.960 just kind of kicked in, even though Montreal had no need to win this 551 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:21.599 game with the Hamilton losing on Friday. I mean, I just think they're 552 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.400 probably kind of kicked in and they just started playing like we know they can 553 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:29.519 against these losing teams of the CFL this season. So I think at the 554 00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:30.880 end of the day, you know, the Alouettes just showing that they're the 555 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.519 better team of these two teams, regardless of the situation, much like Toronto 556 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.640 beating Ottawa. So I mean, I don't have too many takeaways from this 557 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:44.079 game. I had a clip here I just you know, talking and we 558 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.240 always helped this sound, doesn't player. We always get you know, Friends 559 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.359 of the Show on all the and we saw Kevin Brown here coming back just 560 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.000 having a tremendous leaving performance on it. I did like to see that, 561 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.279 even in the last I always like to see Friends of the Show here coming 562 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.160 back. I mean, look at this, look at this over. Kevin 563 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.280 Brown is a spark plug, A big fan of him, and I get 564 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:12.239 to see him featured on that Evan thoughts on the game. Yeah, So 565 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.000 you know, for me this game, it was a couple of things. 566 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.079 You know, again, I wanted Edmonton to win this game because I know 567 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.840 they can do it. But as Dave's pointed out, while this team has 568 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.559 had a lot of momentum in the second half of the season, you know, 569 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:31.239 they've looked a lot better things like that. The one kind of disappointment 570 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:37.239 I think of this resurgence has been the second half. They've blown a lot 571 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.480 of big leads, and I always think about that one at Edmonton. I 572 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:43.039 think it was, you know, Trey Ford's like first or second game in 573 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.559 the starting lineup, and you know, yeah, they just they completely you 574 00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.039 know, whifted for lack of a better term. So yeah, you know, 575 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.360 it was a bit disappointing, and you know Edmonton. Edmonton came out 576 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.920 strong. You know, in the first quarter, they had fourteen points. 577 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.400 It looked good, but I mean Montreal with twenty three in the second I 578 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.760 think, I you know, that's gonna be hard for any team to come 579 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.199 back from, and especially Edmonton, who you know has struggled with you know, 580 00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.599 sort of these you jump out to a lead and then you can't really 581 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.360 get back in it. In terms of individual performances, I'll start the Edmonton 582 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:21.239 side. You know, tray Ford look decent. This was a decent game 583 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:22.440 for him. I'd say, nothing special, you know, not one of 584 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.159 his games where you know it was a blow your socks off kind of you 585 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.519 know, how does he do that type of performance? But it was respectable 586 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.559 again, something that Edmonton can build off of going into the offseason, and 587 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.920 you know, like you pointed out read with Kevin Brown, clearly, I 588 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.960 think that is where the mental focus of his team is right now. Like, 589 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:46.159 hey, you know we're not we can't win any games for an actual 590 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:50.800 playoffs. Pop can still win games to you know, feel better about ourselves 591 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.719 and put points on the board to you know, have something to build off 592 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.800 of. So yeah, I think tray Ford look good. You know, 593 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:02.440 Kevin Brown had a catch for twenty two yards on top of like he didn't 594 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.840 do a lot, but six point yards per care. You know, I'll 595 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.480 take that. And then Trey Ford got in a bit there on the running 596 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:13.559 action too. Kyen Moore for me in this game stood out with the two 597 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.360 receiving touchdowns. He's somebody that I don't know. I mean, there's a 598 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.119 lot of guys I haven't talked about this season, but Kyen Moore I want 599 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.280 to bring up here late. You know, in the last couple of weeks 600 00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:28.239 he came over from Saskatchewan, you know, and he's been silently one of 601 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.079 the better receivers I think a return guys at least you know, specialists in 602 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.559 the league. You know, I wouldn't say he's elite by any means, 603 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.679 but again, another one of those pieces in Edmonton where it's like he's definitely 604 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:44.159 helped a significant amount and maybe part of the reason he hasn't gotten the attention 605 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.119 is just because of all the other turmoil it's gone on in Edmonton this season, 606 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.400 and a lot of stuff is directed on trey Ford, as we know, 607 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:57.079 especially over the past couple of weeks with him starting, so things like 608 00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.800 that. You know, Gina Lewis was the receiver, leading receiver in this 609 00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.599 game. Who to be honest, I don't know. I expected bigger things 610 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:06.440 from him this year. I thought he was really gonna be the difference maker 611 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.800 at Edmonton, and I think people in their personnel department would probably think the 612 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:13.000 same, just given his stature, and you know, going into this season, 613 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.159 you know, I think we sung his praises as being the best receiver 614 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.400 in the league. And you know, while he is still one of the 615 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.320 top options, you know that any team would love to have. I think 616 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:23.639 there's a couple guys this season that have done better, you know, and 617 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:28.920 that have proved you know that he might not have the crown anymore. You 618 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.239 know, Austin Mack I think being one of them, even if he's you 619 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.440 know, slowing down now, as well a couple others. I won't name 620 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.880 all of them, but on the Montreal side of the ball, you know, 621 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.360 yeah, I mean it was it was a good game for Montreal. 622 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:44.719 You know, this was a game where for them, again, like they've 623 00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:49.519 got the home playoff games secured. You know, you're you're feeling okay, 624 00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.519 like this whole thing about you know, them not being able to beat winning 625 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.840 teams, but you can beat all the teams with the losing record like this, 626 00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.079 this wasn't any different for them, Like, you know, as much 627 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:01.840 as I'm saying, you know, Edmonton had a shot it winning or whatever, 628 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.440 like Montreal still beat him, but Edmonton still has the losing records, 629 00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:09.079 so it's like, you know, he still doesn't really tell anything for anybody. 630 00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.480 But it was a good game for them, I think, you know, 631 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.360 for Montreal, this is the game where you know, you're just trying 632 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.960 to build momentum going into the playoffs. Again, you're not really playing for 633 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.599 anything either, but you have work that needs to be done later on the 634 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.559 other team doesn't. And you know, I feel like this was a pretty 635 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:30.079 complete game for them, you know, all things considered. Fajardo, you 636 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.679 know, I feel I had a again outside of the turnover, which is 637 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.960 what we always seem to point out about him. Outside of that, if 638 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.599 you take that off the board, I think he had a good game in 639 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:44.079 the run department. Walter Fletcher, you know, not somebody that we talk 640 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:45.440 about a lot, but a guy that's getting brought up here late in the 641 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.840 season. Thirteen carries for eighty eight yards, close to averaging seven per touch. 642 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:52.800 A lot of the discussion, you know, has obviously been around Will 643 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:57.079 stand Back and Joss Ornanti as of late, but you know, good to 644 00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.840 see Fletcher getting worked in there. A lot of It's fun at the end 645 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:04.000 of the season, you know, when you've got these teams sort of working 646 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:06.880 in other players that you might not have seen as much, and even if 647 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.159 you're not really playing for something, it could be fun. This is a 648 00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:13.360 period of evaluation in the CFL. Teams are deciding, you know, who 649 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.880 do we want to keep, you know, going in the next year. 650 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:21.000 You know what does that look like? I you know, talking about the 651 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.360 window for practice, roster expansion opens, things like that. So you know, 652 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.239 those are evaluation periods or a telltale sign of them. Yeah, I 653 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.239 don't know if there's too much else. Austin Mack, you know, is 654 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.639 getting back like he's been quiet for a couple of weeks, I feel like, 655 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:43.679 but five catches for fifty seven yards in this game. Tyler Snead again, 656 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.400 someone that's really come along in the second half of the season. Personally, 657 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.639 though, the guy I'm really excited about in the playoff matchup with Hamilton 658 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.360 is a Tyson Philpot because he's been flashing a lot as of lately, you 659 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.719 know, young guy Canadian. I'm really excited to see, you know, 660 00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.679 what he can do. I mean, obviously, seasons nearly over, but 661 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.480 that game against Hamilton specifically, I feel like, you know, if Montreal 662 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.599 really wants to, you know, make a statement, I guess he would 663 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:12.519 be the one to kind of come in and that seems to be his time, 664 00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:14.920 at least in my mind. So yeah, other than that, not 665 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.960 too much about this game, and it wasn't wasn't really meaningful for either team. 666 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.000 But you know, twenty three point second quarter by Montreal certainly can't be 667 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:29.199 overlooked. It's funny you're talking Montreal like being able to play Jason's side about 668 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:30.920 this, you know, no kind of playing win against the teams. It's 669 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.880 like happened like I have X ray vision, but I can only see through 670 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.719 like wood or something like. It's not quite you know, it's kind of 671 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.119 a weird, but you're talking. We're talking Eugenealus and all that, like 672 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.519 you said, because I was looking at his contract here you know, a 673 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.480 ton of money onto that, and that was what made the to me always 674 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:51.920 made like the Cornelius thing even weirder on that where it's like here, we're 675 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.840 gonna sign this guy highest non paid quarterback and then you know, sticking with 676 00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:59.519 Taylor Cornelius and all that. My last thought, we'll get to adjacent. 677 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:04.639 I did like, and I'm not the biggest obviously like football expert, right 678 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.119 you guys are. That's why we talk about it. But having Kevin Brown 679 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.239 say on the on the show, like, yeah, you know, I 680 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:14.960 thought I started the season really slow. I felt like I was thinking too 681 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.400 much. I finally now more come up like I also thought you started. 682 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.719 I was like, yeah, I could see that when he was playing, 683 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.079 like it felt good to kind of have him vocalize that because I remember watching 684 00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:28.119 these games and thinking like something's not you know, mashing at that point, 685 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.679 Jason thoughts some that or anything else from this game. Yeah, absolutely. 686 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.000 I thought that, you know, Kevin Brown, like the production the first 687 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.559 half of the season did not match his talent, and I thought that, 688 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:38.679 you know, the way he finished last year, I was like, this 689 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.480 guy could be, you know, a top three running back in the CFL, 690 00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.039 and that's what he's become by the end of this season as well. 691 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.239 So I mean, really happy to see that from him. And then just 692 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:52.480 a couple of things from the Montreal perspective, I really think that Danny Machoca, 693 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:57.039 the GM over there, deserves a lot of credit for restalking the Canadian 694 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.760 talent on this roster. I mean, you see a lot of pact Canadian 695 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.280 players that you know, they drafted really high. Mark Cantwin de Cua was 696 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.719 the second round pick, should have been a first round pick, but he 697 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.719 had NFL interest. Tyson Philpott, you know, a really talented receiver. 698 00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.239 The wal Ugawac had probably butchered that name, but he's was their first round 699 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.800 pick this year, went to TCU. Did not play a ton at TCU. 700 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:21.960 It was kind of a backup there, but the Aloettes took a chance 701 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.599 on him the high pedigree had playing at a big school, and he's paid 702 00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.360 off so far with you know, we had a big strip sack in this 703 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.440 one that led to a touchdown and that really swung the game. So I 704 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:35.079 think the Alouettes that's been a big part of the resurgence over the past couple 705 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.480 of years is the Canadian talent because before the last couple of years I thought 706 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.880 they had probably the weakest Canadian talent in the league. Well, and this 707 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.760 was remember supposed to be the big like come down. Okay, everyone left 708 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.000 Montreal, we got the new owner here, we fed all the Gary ster 709 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.559 and everything like you know here they are. I mean it's you know, 710 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.320 it's second in the East. I mean, you know, you gotta qualify 711 00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.599 everything. But I mean this, I think this could be a lot worse 712 00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.559 off for the Alowitz right now that you think, Jason, Yeah, absolutely, 713 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:02.559 I mean that still ten wins season, chance for eleven, right, 714 00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.719 anything else on this love will power through the last two games here, anything 715 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.119 else, you know? All right, So let's get into this. I'll 716 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.920 toises back to Jason first. I'm gonna pull up a photo here, but 717 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.079 any thought, you know, we've talked a little bit about this Saskatchewan and 718 00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.199 Calgary and everything else. What did you make of this game? Specifically? 719 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.880 The first half of this game was so so ugly, and I think was 720 00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.360 it you Evan that said in the group chat that Calgary just wants their season 721 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.400 to be over? It was just like they, like Saskatchwan was playing like 722 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:35.760 that too. I felt like, you know, both of these teams did 723 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.400 not win win the game. I thought that Calgary, you know, didn't 724 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.559 they have like a two score lead going into halftime. But I think at 725 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:44.400 the end of the day they didn't look too great either. And then really 726 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.440 it was just the turnovers in the second half that swung it in Calgary's direction. 727 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.840 I think the turnover differential was five to nothing in favor of Calgary. 728 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.039 So ultimately, that's just your game right there, Sascatchwan. I think out 729 00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.599 gained them, you know, passing yards, rushing yards, but ultimately, 730 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.159 at the end of the day, they gave Calgary some short fields and Calgary 731 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.000 was able to capitalize. I just wanted to give a shout out, you 732 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.559 know, cover and we've had our feet into a three down. All that 733 00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.440 got to hang out covers. The Stampede's got to hang out with a little 734 00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.679 bit of Ryan Valentine down in Vegas. So I had a good time with 735 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:20.239 that, hooked him up with some good uh. I guess his sound is 736 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.679 a big Vegas Golden Knights fan, because I I don't understand how I'm like 737 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:28.039 gonna give me your obviously cover a huge fan. Anyway, we met up 738 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.480 for a beer. Really fun to see that. You know, I don't 739 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.119 think that the Stamps season has worked out the way that he probably wanted it 740 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.400 to. But you know, they're getting the w here. Like I said, 741 00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.000 we're keeping it alive. I don't know for what regard Jason Evan like 742 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.800 thought, you know what I mean, Like, okay, if we got 743 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:45.280 to win out them, but then we're still going to just get into the 744 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.119 bus off BC. What did you make of this? Well, you know, 745 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.000 when I say, when I brought up the whole thing of it feels 746 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.920 like Calgary just wants to lose. I think Farhan was the one that mentioned 747 00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:57.199 that on your show last week, like that locker room is just kind of 748 00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.679 out, you know. But but regardless of you know, everything that I 749 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:04.719 had heard and everything that I expected, this was kind of like my game 750 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:06.760 of the week for lack of a better term, This was the game where 751 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:09.840 I sat down and I'm like, I don't care what happens. I'm gonna 752 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.800 watch all four quarters. And by halftime I almost regretted that. I was 753 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.760 like, oh, this is one of those games like this is yeah it 754 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.280 was. It wasn't looking good, but then second half you know, got 755 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.159 really interesting, Like it looked like I mean, I was ready at half, 756 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.920 and again the panelists were saying the same thing, and Farhan was on 757 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.639 the panel that night. It just felt like, I mean, you could 758 00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.119 ended the game there, you know. That's what it was. The whole 759 00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:37.840 vibe. It was like you could have just ended it there and Saskatchewan would 760 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.519 have just you know, closed the door and the West would have been all, 761 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.719 you know, but locked up. But then the second half rolled around 762 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:51.320 and then suddenly, like you know, all these things started happening. I 763 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:57.519 credit Calgary's defense more than anybody for this win, because they really, I 764 00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.679 think the most pivotal play of the game. You know, there were a 765 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.079 couple you know, nice throws here and there by Mayor the one specifically to 766 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.039 Luther Hokunavanu was that was incredible, you know, And I tagged Luther in 767 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.639 a tweet and I said, this is like, this is good, you 768 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.320 know, this is I'm glad I stuck around for this because that was one 769 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:20.920 hell of a grab. But specifically their defense. I think the most pivotal 770 00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.960 moment in the game for me was Calgary had scored on an offensive touchdown. 771 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:31.239 You know, Saskatchewan gets the ball back first played Jake Dolegala throws a pick 772 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:36.039 six and I'm like, and that tied the game at nineteen, and I 773 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.000 was like, okay, like now now we're in business. And you can 774 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:43.039 feel like I'm sure we've all experienced this watching football, you know, but 775 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.960 you can feel when there's a momentum shift and when a team exactly and you 776 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.920 really you feel like that's the moment where if you're Calgary, you're like, 777 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.000 okay, like now we have to win, you know, like we've been 778 00:46:55.039 --> 00:47:00.239 gifted all this, Like we have to win like something like it's just again. 779 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.280 It's it's the feeling like you've got, you know, season on the 780 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.280 line, You're in front of your home crowd, like it's just the classic, 781 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.000 like you know, it's a must win game. And in that moment 782 00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:13.280 you can tell that they you know, they were gonna pull out all the 783 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.119 stops, you know, for lack of a better term, and just go 784 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:21.000 get the job done. And they did somehow they did. Like I watching 785 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:22.800 that first half, you would have never guessed it was even gonna be possible, 786 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.639 but they did it. And I don't know if that's I don't know 787 00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:29.679 if that's a good or bad thing. I mean again, right, like 788 00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.679 this seems like we're talking about it is if it's some heavyweight matchup. But 789 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.559 these teams have a combined to eleven wins. So I don't know, like 790 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.880 it's it's nothing, you know, spectacular, But it was a good game. 791 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.239 It ended up being a good game, and I'm glad you know that 792 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.519 second half in particular, at least if you're a Calgary fan, I think 793 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:51.440 you know, you feel, you feel good. That was some of the 794 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.840 better football that you've seen all season from a team that we have called, 795 00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:58.880 you know, stale and sluggish and really just not exciting. I mean, 796 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.199 hell, I know there's other teams in the league that have a worst record. 797 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.840 Take Ottawa and Edmonton is the two examples. They really are the only 798 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.400 other teams in the league to have a worse record to some degree, depending 799 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.559 on which point in the season we're talking about. I would prefer to watch 800 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:20.639 those teams over Calgary at any given point in their season, just because Calgary, 801 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.440 like I forget the specific stat but you know, TSN had some graphic 802 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:29.119 that popped up during the game and it was like Calgary like, I don't 803 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:34.239 think they were maybe like one in nine during the season at games where they 804 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.280 were down at half, and I was like, so it really is like 805 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.480 a one half type of season for him, you know, but not in 806 00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.639 this one, and this one was the one that mattered, you know, 807 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.679 and in football sometimes like it really, I mean we were talking about, 808 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.880 you know, the Bills Giants game, like no matter how bad or ugly 809 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.519 that game was, like it just came down to the final play, Like 810 00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:59.079 that is your game, you know, and that's where it's important to capitalize 811 00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:00.159 and do the right thing. You know. It all comes down to that 812 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.440 one moment, just like for Calgary, it all comes down to this one 813 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.719 game to keep season alive. Yes, you've had a lot of you know, 814 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:09.760 bad things, and it hasn't been pretty and there's been so many ups 815 00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:14.800 and downs, but you're sitting there and you still have a chance. You 816 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.079 maybe shouldn't have a chance. You know the fact that yeah we're in week 817 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.440 nineteen and they're still fighting for a playoff spot is incredible. But that's the 818 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.400 CFL sometimes, just given the number of teams and the way that the divisions 819 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:29.360 are laid out. But overall, I'm happy for Calgary. I was pulling 820 00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:34.239 form in this game just to make it interesting again whether or not either of 821 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.239 those teams should be in the playoffs. I'm sure if you're a rough Riders 822 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.400 or Stamps fan, you know, you're, like, you know, you're 823 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:43.039 probably sitting there thinking, yes, like we are, you know, but 824 00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.440 even even some of their fans, I feel like know that, you know, 825 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.400 it's kind of a it's kind of a fluke to some extent, you 826 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:53.400 know, just giving what's what's happened this season in terms of you know, 827 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:58.960 their level of competition everything like that. But overall, happy for Calgary and 828 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.119 yeah, it'll be an in interesting couple of weeks now to see who can 829 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:05.280 get that spot, because I mean, you know, now, like you 830 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.480 know, both teams are still in it, like keep in mind, like 831 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.280 you know, yeah Saskatchewan lost, but you know that doesn't necessarily mean like 832 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.519 Calgary gets the automatic bid, like Saskatchewan could still very well be in it. 833 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.480 And you know, things go on as I thought they would, but 834 00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.639 we'll see. You know, it keeps it going for another couple of weeks 835 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.559 and you know, to be talking about interesting scenarios like that in the final, 836 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.760 you know, two weeks of the regular season or whatever. In the 837 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.920 CFL, I don't know if you always get that. So I'm pleased I 838 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.800 talking to Giants bills. You know, if it was the CFL, you 839 00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:37.880 could reviewed that as you could challenge that holding call at the end. There. 840 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.719 This is my embarrassed We'll get to Jason. This is my oppression of 841 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:46.440 evance to watching it Calgary, Saskatchewan at six thirty simmic on a Fridays, 842 00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:50.679 just like I'm still in this. It's still real to me, damn it. 843 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:52.920 Jason thoughts on this, We'll talk to your Tay cats here before we 844 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:58.000 got here. Any other thoughts on Calgary or Sam this? Yeah, I'll 845 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.960 say this is that, you know, we have something to watch for over 846 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.519 the last couple of weeks standing wise, because I think this is really besides 847 00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:09.239 you know, the long shot that BC still catches Winnipeg for first place in 848 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:13.320 the West. This is really the only thing left to the side in the 849 00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.960 CFL standings besides maybe the number one pick for the CFL draft. But yeah, 850 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.840 I think that's important for the CFL to have something meaningful the last couple 851 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.639 of weeks. So we get that with the result of this game. One 852 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:29.519 thing with Calgary, I thought that our offense looked really, really poor throughout 853 00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.480 this game. Besides that last you know, final drive that you know that 854 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:36.840 that catch by Luther Acunavan, who that was a nice drive, But besides 855 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.480 that, they really didn't, you know, generate too many yards. Look 856 00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:43.239 at the running statistics. Just a really pathetic day for them. And that's 857 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.599 one thing that's really perplexed me about their season. This is a team that 858 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.360 was first in rushing in each of the last two seasons in the CFL, 859 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.079 and they've you know, completely dropped off. I think they're like eighth or 860 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.360 ninth in rushing or seventh or eighth or something like that in rushing. You 861 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.840 know, BC's last. But yeah, at the end of the day, 862 00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:02.480 the Calgary offense just continues to frustrate me, frustrate me. But at the 863 00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:06.800 end of the day, you know, they're still in it. So let's 864 00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:09.239 get here last one in the hurry up offense here before we get out nail 865 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:15.920 Bider, I'll just play my my heel promo here walking. I was in 866 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.519 the in the bathroom at the Mexican restaurant getting ready for Adam Sandler, watching 867 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.400 Sean White kick the walk off field goal on my phone on CFL Plus. 868 00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:28.920 That's where we're out on here. I'm cutting my promo to Jason's here because 869 00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.840 I'm all bawl like, once we win, then I'm just sitting there. 870 00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:35.079 I get already said at the top of the show, like I'm not going 871 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.480 to Gray Cup if this doesn't work out the way we needed to. Uh, 872 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.599 you know, we'll go We'll go Jason, and then we'll go Evan 873 00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.880 and then we'll get out of here. Jason thoughts on this, you feel 874 00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:45.199 good about your TI Cats? I mean they're still going to be in third. 875 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.360 What did you make of this? Yeah, I wasn't too hurt by 876 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.719 this loss. I thought that the tay Cats in general played pretty well. 877 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:54.599 I mean, there was some stuff I didn't like defensively, but it was 878 00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:58.800 good to see the offense move it with both of the quarterbacks in there. 879 00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.159 I mean Bo had some like one of the most ugly pick sixes you'll see 880 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:07.280 in the CFL this season on a screen pass early in this game, but 881 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.920 I think he bounced back nicely from that, and ultimately it was one of 882 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:14.920 the more enjoyable games to watch in the CFL that season. This season, 883 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:16.679 I was in attendance and I thought that, you know, this game just 884 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.119 had a lot of lead changes, and I thought that, you know, 885 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:23.760 it was just a really generally clean played game from both sides. Yeah, 886 00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:28.920 I mean, you know, Vernon but obviously excuse me, had the interception 887 00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:30.840 here, but you know, Bo looking good and Shilts kind of a one 888 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.880 to two punch there. Interesting. One more question that Jayson will go, 889 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.360 Evan are you? Are you? What do you make of how they have 890 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:44.599 moved bow back into the lineup here. It's very confusing to me. I 891 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.159 you know, if they didn't do this last year, I would be even 892 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:51.679 more confused. But I kind of see what they're doing here because they had, 893 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:53.480 you know, Dane Evans and Matthew Shilts last year, and I mean, 894 00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:58.079 I think that may be the best way to use Matthew Shultz because clearly 895 00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.440 he's not, like, you know, a full time star under in the 896 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:04.880 CFL just because of his injury concerns, But in short dosages he can be 897 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:08.320 a very effective quarterback and we've seen that. And I think the big question 898 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.800 is how do they deploy in the playoff? Do they give both the entire 899 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.199 game, you know, trust their five hundred thousand dollars man, or do 900 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:20.400 they you know, give Sheltz the reins if both struggles early in that game, 901 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:23.719 only time will tell. I think to take BC here to the wire 902 00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.119 and have to have that. I mean, it was a lengthy field goal 903 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.519 right to get out. I mean right because I'm remembering now, okay, 904 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.559 because I drank a lot at the sorry at the Adams Sandler game. But 905 00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:37.679 like you know, Vernon got hurt and Dan came in and move in the 906 00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.559 field and this all coming back to my mind now. But you know, 907 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:44.519 I mean it wasn't like to me, I would feel very good about this. 908 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:46.280 I mean, Montreal came in and kind of whipped Edmonton around a little 909 00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:50.360 bit in the second half, like ty Kats took BC a playoff team here 910 00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.360 to the last seconds of the game. I feel good about that. Evan 911 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:59.599 thoughts on this, Yeah, I mean this saw you know, surprisingly ended 912 00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:01.280 up being one of the better games of the week in my opinion. I 913 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.760 mean, I you know, I feel like a lot of people had this 914 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.559 game circled. I didn't, you know, I I just kind of expected, 915 00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:10.599 you know, BC to go in there and to do the job. 916 00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:15.039 But Hamilton made it very close. You know, Hamilton continues to prove that 917 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:19.440 they are still you know, playing at a high level, and they've really, 918 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.119 they really have come into form as a playoff team in the East. 919 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:24.800 There's no denying that they are playing, you know, some of the best 920 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:29.639 football that we've seen all season from really any team you know in the league. 921 00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:32.000 To be honest, it's a very it's become i should say, very 922 00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:37.440 fun to watch, you know. So yeah, I mean, ultimately this 923 00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:39.159 one came down to a field goal. You know, Hamilton still kind of 924 00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:45.920 has their two quarterback system in place with bo Levi and and Matt Schultz. 925 00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:50.239 But yeah, you know this this was a fun game and a lot of 926 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:52.079 a lot of offense in this one. I felt like, you know, 927 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.360 I feel like this was too kind of you know, I can't I don't 928 00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:02.199 know, well, Hamilton, I feel like wasn't an offense until recently somewhat, 929 00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:07.320 but you know, BC we all know has their great passing game and 930 00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:12.960 things of that nature. Really, I mean I could go into you know, 931 00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.559 detail on some of the players here, but I think we all know 932 00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.800 who performed well in this game. What I really want to focus on, 933 00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.199 you know here in the last couple of minutes, is Dane Evans, you 934 00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.599 know, coming into that game, just kind of being called up out of 935 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:29.480 nowhere at the most critical moment of the game. Hey, Dane, things 936 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:31.360 are tied, like we need to go, Like you're the guy that's gonna 937 00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.039 you know, have this drive that puts us in position to win. For 938 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.079 him to do that, you know, just come right off the bench and 939 00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:43.679 you know, complete four passes in a row and then have the game winning 940 00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:46.320 field goal. I mean that, you know, that's a lot easier said 941 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.360 than done. Like most quarterbacks, you know, come into that situation, 942 00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:52.920 and I mean I think about, you know, like Tyson Badge for the 943 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:58.800 Bears played for the first time yesterday, first snap of the game, first 944 00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:01.159 snap, fumble return for a touchdown, like welcome to the NFL, you 945 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:06.079 know, and I get it. Dane Evans has played before Tyson Badgin has 946 00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:07.960 it, So maybe that's not a great comparison, but either way, both 947 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.239 guys were kind of suddenly called into action. And as the backup quarterback, 948 00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.079 I've always said, you know, at any level of the game, that's 949 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:16.599 one of the more interesting positions, Like you know, kicker, there's a 950 00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:22.079 couple others, but being the backup quarterback is so interesting because it feels like 951 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:27.360 sometimes you're just you know, sitting there to kind of coach and listen and 952 00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.320 you know, you kind of I mean, look, I haven't been in 953 00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:32.960 those shoes obviously, but you know, in terms of actual playing time, 954 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.079 you know, unless there's a significant injury, backups aren't seeing the field much. 955 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:42.800 But in this case, you know, not only like Dane Evans didn't 956 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.440 have to play a majority of the game, but he had to play the 957 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:51.280 most important part. So the fact for him to go out there and do 958 00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.519 that, you know, and get BC in the position to win, I 959 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:57.199 think that was very you know that that's a good sign, you know, 960 00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.079 and hey, Dane, I think you know again, well, what made 961 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:04.840 it even more important too is you know, it was his return to Hamilton. 962 00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.679 You know the fact that he played snaps in that game against you know, 963 00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.960 the team that he spent you know, several years with and kind of 964 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.679 you know, made uh well, I mean he was he was there for 965 00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:16.159 a while. You know, he did some great things there. Unfortunately, 966 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:20.480 you know, last season was a bit of a disappointment. Therefore why he's 967 00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:22.360 not still there now. And they've kind of had all these you know, 968 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.360 I mean they've played three different quarterbacks this season, so they've you know, 969 00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:30.320 definitely definitely gotten a bit creative there. But you know, for him to 970 00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.239 go back to Hamilton and to get some playing time, that was good to 971 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:36.719 see. And I know he was he was tweeting about you know, emotions 972 00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.079 were definitely running high. You know, it meant a lot to him, 973 00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:44.239 and you know, I mean he kind of he got to put the dagger 974 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:47.000 into his old team's heart, which is always an interesting storyline to follow. 975 00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:52.079 So Jason ties back to you before we get out of here and the other 976 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.719 thoughts b C. Hamilton. Yeah, really happy for Dane. I mean, 977 00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:58.519 even though it was against Hamilton, I thought that was pretty cool that 978 00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:00.760 he got to come in there. I was like, as soon as I 979 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:02.159 saw him enter the game, I said to my buddy who I was at 980 00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.239 the game with, I was like, you know, what's going to happen. 981 00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.039 You know, he's going to drive down the field and you know, 982 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:12.320 some stories in sports just right themselves like that. So congratulations to Dane. 983 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.079 And then I just want to finish off with a couple of shout outs for 984 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:21.119 both of these teams. Matthew Betts just tied the Canadian sack record in the 985 00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:25.119 CFL with seventeen sacks, tied Brent Johnson who played for the BC Lions when 986 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:30.760 he set that record seventeen sacks. And then for Hamilton, Dexter Lawson, 987 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:35.920 who's a defensive back, he had an incredible interception that looked like it was 988 00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.960 going to be very pivotal towards Baby Hamilton getting a victory in this one in 989 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:44.159 the final three minutes, but ultimately BC was able to regain the lead on 990 00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:46.559 that last second field goal. But what an incredible interception. If you guys 991 00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:51.559 haven't seen the replay of that, go check that out. Yeah, you 992 00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:53.960 know, friends of the show here, you just can't be a quarterback any 993 00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:57.119 other position. You come on the show, you're probably going to be doing 994 00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.440 all right. Kevin Brown, even with the loss, play good what we 995 01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:02.440 made it there. You go. CFL Week nineteen in the books. Got 996 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:07.559 through the little NFL should be good. Like I said, I like to 997 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:12.079 subscribe. I think stuff's coming down this week XFL, USFL. We'll get 998 01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.960 through all of that stuff and then I'll reach out. Maybe we'll get the 999 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:20.599 Winnipeg maybe try this week with them having the home game, and then we 1000 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:22.159 have I think I have a couple of ideas for CFL people to come on 1001 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:23.960 to talk. So, like, you know, stay tuned for all that. 1002 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:28.119 Jason's got his stuff. I was checking out his previews and all your 1003 01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:30.719 NFL stuff as well. So Evan, thanks as always. We'll see you 1004 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:31.440 guys next time.