1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:27,719 M m m. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this. 2 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,960 Welcome to the Game Mesticides podcast, the podcast where we decide everything about the 3 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,880 world of games so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host, 4 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,439 Jeff Grubb. With me is Mike Manati, and today's episode by Aware 5 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,759 is laying off a bunch of people, Opening Night Live, happened, Balder's 6 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:47,000 Gate, is healing the Xbox series S or something. I don't know. 7 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:51,479 Mike, first, how are you doing. It's a weird It's been a 8 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,399 weird day, hasn't It's uh so, yeah, you know, kind of 9 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:57,479 a bit of a jumble, but getting through there, Jeff, getting through 10 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,119 it. It's fun to be here. Always enjoy getting messy with you. 11 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,719 Yeah, I'm glad you could come and be my guest host for today. 12 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:11,760 Sure thing, Yeah, definitely. Uh well, we'll get into all that 13 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,079 and stuff. But yeah, it's been it's it's been a busy week. 14 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:18,640 It feels like tomorrow should be the weekend already, but Friday, but that 15 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,719 I guess that's nice. We'll get through tomorrow, go to the weekend. 16 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:25,319 I want to like record quick looks for a couple of games over on Giant 17 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,200 Bomb. It's like, man, we're gonna have time to do that, 18 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:30,079 maybe after upf since we'll do it earlier. Yeah, I would like to 19 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,799 do that that game Boy color looking game. Yes, I talked to Dan 20 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,640 about it. He wants to do it as well. So we'll get all 21 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:41,120 three of us on there for Bomb Rush cyber Funk, which I am working. 22 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,879 Yes, I'm trying to get cyber Funk or Cyberpunk Cyberfunk. Okay, 23 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Bomb Rush cyber Funk. Uh. I believe let's the name of the gang 24 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:53,040 that you played playing in the game, so I think that's what it would 25 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,480 be. But yeah, first, you get more from joining us and from 26 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,280 Mike and me. Okay, you know what. I'm gonna start over, 27 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:02,000 Mike, start over. First. I want to thank you for joining us. 28 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,000 You get more from Mike and me by joining the discord at game mess 29 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,520 dot net. Give us a good rating wherever you are listening, and hit 30 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:10,240 that like button on YouTube. It helps people find the show. 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She put put together the trivia game for Are You Smarter Than the 46 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,319 Games Journalists that I did at dream Hack with Dan and that was a lot 47 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:12,919 of fun, So looking forward to having her on. She's also has the 48 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,319 coolest like x shob of anybody I know, because she did the tramp tour 49 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,039 at Universal Students Hollywood, which is like just the most fascinating thing to be 50 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,080 ever. I bugged her about that so much, and she was a very 51 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,680 polite and patience that had a ton of fun stories. So yeah. She 52 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:30,520 mentioned that there's like several like celebrities that would come in and she would she 53 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,639 would give them tours, and eventually like a couple of would request her when 54 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,560 they would bring their friends back. And I'm like, oh, that's really 55 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,120 neat. That's a cool job. All right, Mike, I got a 56 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:42,240 bunch of big topics I want to get to you. You were ready a 57 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,120 lot to talk about today. Let's go, Yeah, bye, where's laying 58 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,159 off fifty people? I saw this story first from Dean on games Beat, 59 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:53,719 and then I looked into it a little bit more. I guess let's just 60 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:57,080 start from the top fifty people of the two hundred and fifty people that work 61 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,319 at buy Aware no longer there. These are not necessarily just you know, 62 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,680 like low level people, whatever that might mean. It's people who've been there 63 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:09,520 a long time. It seems like a lot of people who might be pretty 64 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,919 high high hind the chain and maybe have pretty high salaries. This feels like 65 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:19,279 an aggressive cost cutting measure for a studio that is being asked to cut costs 66 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,720 for the first time in quite some time, but they haven't put out a 67 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,879 game in a while. And then EA is getting pretty strict about this sort 68 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,439 of thing, and it's hitting BioWare right pretty much on the cusp of them 69 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:36,519 releasing Dragon Age dread Wolf, a game that is now expected internally to come 70 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:40,639 out next year, the summer of next year at the earliest. Is what 71 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,759 I'm hearing, Mike, what's your feeling on byware and these layoffs, and 72 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,560 there's a lot. The first thing that strikes me is just how interesting it 73 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,600 is that this is happening in the shadow of the incredible success of bolters Gate 74 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,600 three, a series that was started in the early days of BioWare. Right, 75 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,000 yeah, And and you know, BioWare has been having a hard time 76 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:06,519 since. It's hard to say where it started. To me, it almost 77 00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:11,000 started in a weird wave of mass effect too, maybe learning the wrong lesson 78 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,000 there this this giant uh like their first really really big hit, I think 79 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,680 because everyone connected with the characters and the story so much, and their takeaway 80 00:05:18,759 --> 00:05:25,079 was everybody like time we simplified things and made it more broadly appealing, right, 81 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,519 and they just kind of kept going down down that track. They had 82 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:30,639 to rebound a little bit. Dragon Age two went too far for everybody, 83 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,120 but then just some weird misfires and decisions. Anthem is just you know, 84 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,800 there's so much went wrong with Anthem all over. But man, it's just 85 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:43,879 it's hard to feel good about a company losing a fifth of its staff as 86 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,199 it's you know, really working to finish a giant game with huge expectations like 87 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,639 dragon Age. And then also they're gonna have to make a new mass effect 88 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:56,600 and they already messed that one up once. They can't mess that one up 89 00:05:56,639 --> 00:05:59,199 again. What the hell is that going to look like? And you know, 90 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,279 again, I I don't want to be like everything's about Boulter's Gate three 91 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,920 now, but boy, you are now releasing your RPG in a post boulders 92 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,879 Gate three world. Expectations are kind of pretty high on that stuff. Now. 93 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,759 I don't know, Jeff, it's not good. Yeah, it's it's 94 00:06:14,879 --> 00:06:16,800 rough. And you know, I talked about this a lot on Game mess 95 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,399 Morning, So if you want the detailed reporting, feel free to listen to 96 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:24,800 that. Just to summarize kind of what's what's happening here? EA is changing, 97 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:30,040 Apex legends is on the decline. Can I confirm that they said publicly? 98 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:32,800 They said they were too aggressive and too optimistic with their expectations for that 99 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,800 game last quarter. That's what they told investors. And now they're looking at 100 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,759 it and you think they regret canceling that titan Fall like kind of campaign. 101 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Maybe I bet they're like, no, that was the right choice because that 102 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:46,879 would have been a lot of money, and then who knows if that would 103 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,279 have got bad people back on board. In my opinion, taking risks on 104 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,160 things people really want and having the best studio do the thing they're the best 105 00:06:56,199 --> 00:07:00,000 at is the right answer I think for in EA's mind, that would be 106 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,480 like money good money after bad is what it is how I think they would 107 00:07:02,519 --> 00:07:09,000 view that. The other factor here is that EAS has had this corporate restructuring. 108 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,120 It's no longer EA. Everything's EA. It is EA Entertainment and EA 109 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:15,720 Sports. A sports used to cover everything, where it's like, hey, 110 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,600 that money from Ultimate Team is paying for by Aware to be by Aware. 111 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:21,639 They could keep being by Aware, and now those are two separate buckets of 112 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,040 money, and EA Entertainment and you know, Andrew Wilson when they announced this 113 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,240 split, he like the words he used were like financial accountability for our leaders, 114 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,399 Like this was the writing was on the wall for this. By Aware 115 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:41,040 doesn't look as sustainable probably to EA when they are no longer looking at that 116 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,720 ultimate money as like, oh well, let's pays the bills. We're fine. 117 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,240 So made this choice. By Aware, made the tough cuts, and 118 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,920 now they have to go put out Dragon Age dread Wolf, a game that 119 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:54,240 was supposed to come out this year. That's what they were aiming. They 120 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,600 were aiming to put it out next month. Actually was internally was the first 121 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,639 original goal. I know, it's like impossible imagine that now. But now 122 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,519 now they're thinking summer next summer at the earliest. It was actually for a 123 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,439 little bit, they're going to be like March twenty twenty four at the earliest. 124 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,800 That's not happening anymore in no way. So it's summer at the earliest, 125 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,959 and they're taking people off of Mass Effect to work on Dragon Age dread 126 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,079 Wolf, So that means also Mass Effect is going to be even further down 127 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:26,000 the line. So yeah, it's you know, the games are bigger than 128 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,560 ever. They take more time than ever, and so the idea that's, 129 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,759 okay, well you you're taking more time and you but you're also gonna like 130 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:37,120 have fewer people working on these things. That doesn't feel like the right solution 131 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:39,799 here. And yeah, I mean you mentioned a couple of times, but 132 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:45,720 Balder's Gate three shows that RPGs can be, if not the biggest, among 133 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:48,440 the biggest games in the world. How do you not lean into that? 134 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,480 How do you not see that and lean into it? But obviously these layoffs 135 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:54,720 were in motion before they Ever three was doing. Well, this is all 136 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:58,879 reverberating from the ridiculous notion from way back when that all Thea's games had to 137 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:03,840 be online multiplayer focused and that's how we got an anthem. I mean, 138 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,840 Drameda has even more problems than that. But me and you know this, 139 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,919 there are people who just love Mass Effect and Dragon Age. They still care 140 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,279 giant torches for those franchises. How do you mess that up? Yeah, 141 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:24,399 they still care so much about those, right, Like many people still freak 142 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:28,279 out about and seven Days and stuff like that. So it seems like they 143 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:30,559 should have just been able to make those games. Well, I'll take breaks 144 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,200 here and there maybe, But now I just wonder, like what happens if 145 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:39,039 Dragon A dread Wolf comes out and it's it doesn't work, It doesn't work 146 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,519 quite well. Now, I don't want people to take away from this that 147 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:45,360 that's what we're saying, that that's what's going to happen. Now, that 148 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,759 is a concern, and we're talking about that hypothetical. Still, what I've 149 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,960 heard about Dragon Age dread Wolf is that they are pretty happy with where that 150 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,799 game is at internally. Now it's taking longer, it's taking more time, 151 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,200 it keeps getting pushed back, but that's every game, every game, that's 152 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,399 pretty much every game these days. It goes through those those growing pains. 153 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,360 So that's not some you know, alarm bell ringing or anything like that, 154 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,080 but you know, internally being happy with the game and it being able to 155 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,679 live up to you know, or live in a world where all of these 156 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,320 other massive games are coming out, you know, not just boulders Gate three, 157 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:24,639 but Starfield's going to be coming. Tears of the Kingdom happened. It's 158 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:26,320 like, yeah, if Dragon Age Red Wolf comes out and it's just another 159 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:30,320 dragon Age and it feels kind of like it hasn't grown much, you know, 160 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,360 if it's if it's as good as Inquisition. I don't know if that 161 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:35,799 plays as well, but internally they're pretty happy with it. So I mean, 162 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:39,960 take that for whatever it means to anybody. For fans, I don't 163 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,679 want people to be like, oh, let's go uh, you know, 164 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:46,600 like torches and freak out about this because the game is going to be terrible. 165 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:48,840 Now, that's not what I'm hearing. That is. That is kind 166 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:52,840 of like my concern though, that an Inquisition two would not be good enough 167 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,879 anymore. I don't know. I mean, that's my feeling, but uh, 168 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:00,279 but I don't know. Well, I mean, again, we we've 169 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:03,440 noticed this a lot of fans maybe that would be happy with that. I 170 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,399 think, you know, I think as long as they get the characters that 171 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,120 they really love for the most part of many of those fans will actually will 172 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:13,799 be happy. But we'll see. Uh. And that's thoughts about uh, 173 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,120 you know, Apex Legers. That's like a whole other side of this story 174 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,759 because there's been there's been some intense stagnation in the shooter market, hasn't there 175 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:24,200 been right where Halo wasn't really able to make that much gains, Overwatch has 176 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,919 been falling. Apex like it. It's it's like everything has settled down to 177 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,120 man. Yeah, I guess for I still doing well. Obviously some other 178 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:37,320 gimes are doing fine. I'm assuming that gosh, what's the shooter from the 179 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:39,600 League of Legess people, I can't remember the name of Valorent Fine. I 180 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:45,519 assume Call of Duty always does well, but it does feel like some of 181 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:48,240 the stuff's going off. And maybe it's ridiculous to just assume that we can 182 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:52,879 have five perennial online shooters that always do really what I mean it is, 183 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:58,759 I mean, by the numbers, the shooter genre is probably the biggest one, 184 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:03,240 like the biggest genre video game in terms of dollars and people who play. 185 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,360 It's probably the shooter genre. Maybe there there's probably an argument to be 186 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,639 made for some others, but it's very, very big. And that meant, 187 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:13,840 you know, at a certain times throughout our history with shooters, we 188 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:16,840 would have twenty twenty five different shooters releasing over the course of a couple of 189 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:22,799 years, and we'd have stuff like Time Splitters and Rise of the Triad and 190 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:26,960 all these other like the Tertiary shooters and I got the Pope, Yeah, 191 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,879 Black, I suppose we wait, we kind of get those these days is 192 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:35,080 mortals of adium count counts of something I don't know. Yeah, so, 193 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,600 but I mean it does seem like these days that money is all sort of 194 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:45,120 coalescing in Fortnite, and then a few other things hovering around Fortnite, like 195 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:48,480 Pubge's got a lot of players in Asia and he still does well. Yeah 196 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:54,000 and yes, right Counterstrike right though, in those but those are perennial hits 197 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:56,919 at this point. They don't leave a lot of space for not only like 198 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,240 new games, but like sequels to establish traditional games like Battlefield. Battlefield's been 199 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,200 struggling forever and that's Halo and Battlefield. Yeah, I mean, it's that 200 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,679 we're in a world where Batfield's one thing. It's where we're in a world 201 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,320 where Halo just can't quite seem to carve out a piece of the pie for 202 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,879 itself anymore. Right, So, I mean, I'm like, I am 203 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:20,440 hesitant to go be like well, and this is the problem with with live 204 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,120 service games because obviously live service games have made a lot of money for the 205 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,919 shooter genre, and Apex Legends did pay a lot of the bills for a 206 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:31,840 lot of these other games at EA and enabled a lot of things and it 207 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:35,840 was a massive hit. So it's like it did work for many years and 208 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:37,960 that's okay, right, Like you made us, and you made a product, 209 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,120 you put it out there, it's succeeded for and paid. They made 210 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,039 all this money for several years, and now it's not doing that anymore and 211 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:46,240 you got to make something new. That's just the way it used to work, 212 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:48,240 just on a shorter timeline. So it's like, oh, they expanded 213 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:52,600 that timeline. That's nothing but a good thing. It's just that, okay, 214 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,360 well, how do you make something to replace Apex Legends because back the 215 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,399 day it would have been like make a sequel the old one goes away, 216 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,120 here's the one. And now there's no like obvious pathway. We did that. 217 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,480 It works so well, right, Yeah, I don't think there could 218 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,320 be a better illustration of this problem, right that I over Watch two is 219 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,200 like how do we figure this out? And they had no idea and it's 220 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,440 like we will sell, well, we want this, and it's like to 221 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,200 them, it's like that doesn't make any sense. We gotta kind of like 222 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,759 straddle all these different lines. So yeah, but I mean yeah, internally, 223 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:24,279 Apex Legends on the decline. They're not expecting it to be the big 224 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,440 thing for them going forward. Maybe maybe they were able to bring it back. 225 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:31,320 It's not going to like go away overnight. It'll keep making money for 226 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,399 them, but it's not going to be the answer to their problems. They 227 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,519 will be looking for the next thing and we'll see whatever that's going to be 228 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:43,039 or whatever it'll look like. Maybe it'll be maybe actually we'll be battlefield this 229 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,480 time. We'll see right Metal vonn or bring it back again again again again 230 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:50,559 that since it's time. Remember that VR game that came out like a few 231 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,720 years ago. I bet you don't. I don't. I did not almost 232 00:14:52,879 --> 00:14:56,559 respond or it was a respawn. Yeah, it was a respond game that 233 00:14:56,559 --> 00:15:00,679 they I think it was a deal they made with Oculus before bought them, 234 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:03,759 And I remember hearing the stories about that game, and it was it was 235 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:07,720 just going to be a shooter. And then he's like, Okay, well 236 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,759 we'll let you keep doing this because obviously of the contract contractual obligations, but 237 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:13,720 can you make it a medal of honor game? It's like, yeah, 238 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:16,960 I guess sure. It can't be that hard at that point, huh, 239 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,159 totally all right. We got some other stories here, but real quick right 240 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,840 before we went live. Excite Like sixty four is coming August thirty to Nintendo 241 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:30,240 Switch Online. Boy, I just can't say stay state how much I like 242 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,279 that game. It is so so good. Get one of those technical extreme 243 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,879 sports games from the n sixty four genre. It has done better than any 244 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,559 console then or since. Yeah, it's it's a real fun game. So 245 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:45,360 I'm really looking forward to that. I'll be playing that on my trip to 246 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,639 packs. It'll be a good time. Yeah, the trailers out, they 247 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,240 did a good job on that, so what they care. That's nice. 248 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,159 Yeah, exactly, Yeah, trailers ten out of ten. I agree, 249 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,399 Jay Arthur, absolutely, Okay, Mike, Opening Night Live happened, so 250 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,840 did the Future Games Fest. We talked to you and I talk show Future 251 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Game Show. Thank you you and I talked in depth about opening that live 252 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:08,120 on Game This Mornings when you were on with me earlier this week. So 253 00:16:08,159 --> 00:16:11,039 we're not going to go over that. I was just going to point out 254 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:12,360 three games that I like, and then Mike, if you have anyone once 255 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:15,679 you want to highlight feel free for me. Obviously, It's Expeditions, a 256 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:21,600 mud runner game. I think that looks fantastic. It's a really cool sort 257 00:16:21,639 --> 00:16:26,080 of follow up to that mud Runner Spin Tighter's legacy, much more about expiration, 258 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,200 all kinds of weird gizmos and gadgets you can attached to your trucks, 259 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,960 like metal detectors. It's like, man, what is that for? I 260 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,039 have no idea, but I can imagine either way. I think it's going 261 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,039 to be fun. Then Dome King Cabbage is one that was at the Future 262 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:42,399 Game Show and I'm super into this. This is it looks like a drug 263 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:48,080 trip FMV game, And I would really recommend watching the trailer if anyone gets 264 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,399 a chance, because it's if you're wondering what I mean by that, because 265 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,320 you kind of have to see it. And even then when you see it, 266 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,200 you're like, what's the gameplay here? I kind of don't care. 267 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,759 I just want to be looking at my switch, which is the game I 268 00:16:56,799 --> 00:17:00,000 guess is exclusive for for now, and see all these crazy things happening on 269 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:03,440 the screen. That's that's fine enough with me. And then thank goodness you're 270 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,640 here. Which is that cartoon network Big Time Greens what's the one you said? 271 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,319 It looks like Adventrier Times one. It looks the most like to me 272 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:15,720 Adventure Time regular shows and one it looks regular show. Thank you. Regular 273 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,359 Show is definitely what it looks like. Yes, and that looks it kind 274 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:25,720 of looks like that mixed with like Warrior Wear micro games sort of bouncing around 275 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,440 the world and suddenly you're in a new mini game kind of gameplay, and 276 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:30,680 I'm very excited about that. Other than that, well, you know, 277 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:33,480 there was a few more in the Future Games show that I was I was 278 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:37,680 kind of into, but you know, other nextpeditions not much for me. 279 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,160 At Opening Night Live, Yeah, Opening Night Live not too much shit for 280 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,559 me there. It wasn't a bad show or anything like that. I think 281 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:48,359 Allen Wait two is continuing to look very good. I am excited for that, 282 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,519 But I don't know. Maybe my favorite game from like the day was 283 00:17:53,559 --> 00:18:00,599 that Symphonia, that two D platforming game with a big music sort of aesthetic 284 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,359 or focus to it. Even tho it's not it's the Hollow Night like it 285 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,440 looks kind of like holl And I don't I'm not sure exactly how much Red 286 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,759 Vania it is, although I assume it is. One. Yes, but 287 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:11,880 that actually looks really good to me. That that one would say for and 288 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,599 Persona, the persona three remake looks very good. I'm very excited for that. 289 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:21,559 That actually did look really excellent. It looks like they put a lot 290 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:25,519 of work into that. Slick, Yes, super slick. If you do 291 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:26,920 want to see us react to that, we did that on Giant Bond today. 292 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:32,680 We watched all the trailers from both shows. Well, we watched up 293 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:34,359 until the point where where three of us got board and then clicked a buzzer 294 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,200 and then we skipped it. It's actually a lot of fun, so check 295 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,279 it out. That's actually a very good idea. Yeah, thanks, I 296 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:41,359 was I had a lot of fun with that. Well, might do that 297 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,640 again in the future, we'll see. It's a good thing to do when 298 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,319 you can't watch it live. That's a fun way of approaching exactly. Yes, 299 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:48,680 And you know when we're at stuff like Summer Games Fest and it's like, 300 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,519 well we were there, so like, you know, we were sure. 301 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:53,720 We watched a couple of the shows, but there's like six other shows 302 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:56,839 we didn't watch. We're gonna do a roundup. I think that would be 303 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,200 a good way to watch all of the trailers in one form the other. 304 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:03,279 All right, Balder's Gate three is actually coming to Xbox this year. Now 305 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:07,559 why because Phil Spencer went to Europe and had a meeting with Larry and Studios 306 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,680 during Games Com, and then like the next day, Larry and Studios like, 307 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:15,599 hey, after talking to Phil Spencer, we are we have permission to 308 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:19,440 put this thing out on Xbox Series X and Xbox SERIESES. The only difference 309 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,720 will be that Xbox Series S Wille will not have the local co op mode. 310 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:29,079 We got approval for Microsoft to do that. Phil Spencer talked around this 311 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,960 topic a little bit in several conversations he had with outlets like Eurogamer and IGN, 312 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:37,039 where he's just like, I don't see a world where games don't come 313 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:41,640 out, or where games are exclusive Xbox Series X and don't come to Xbox 314 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,480 Series S. But we're also not like enforcing this parody to like a super 315 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:48,039 strict degree. And I'm like, well, it sounds like you are with 316 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:49,720 Balder's Gate three. And then of course the next day, here we are 317 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:53,279 you broke in the other thing game US Mornings this morning right to confirm this. 318 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,079 Yeah, and it's oh, okay, I think this is a completely 319 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:02,160 acceptable solution. What do you think? Yeah, I think it's definitely loosening. 320 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,039 Perhaps the original vision of what the parody would be. But it makes 321 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:08,599 some sense. I think it's a shame that they kind of didn't come to 322 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:11,680 this sooner. It had to take boters Gate three being this big hit and 323 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,720 realizing it was a big hit that they're going to miss out on, and 324 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:18,400 then working hard to kind of catch up. You know, you kind of 325 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,720 wish maybe there's some more force right there, But I get it. I 326 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:25,400 wasn't expecting boters Gate three to be such a big deal, but man, 327 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,319 this is the crack has kind of now opened up a bit here. I 328 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,720 wonder what this means for the future of the series as I think going forward, 329 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,039 there's going to be a lot of your game has to come out on 330 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,000 Series S. Yeah, but you can make compromises, and we might be 331 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,960 get more and more compromises, I wonder, right, I mean, this 332 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:45,200 is a feature, right, but the feature the issue on the Xbox Series 333 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:51,319 S is still a horsepower one. Right. It's still like this thing requires 334 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,400 more graphics processing because you're rendering two instances of the world at the same time. 335 00:20:56,079 --> 00:21:00,240 And to me, that's still kind of within the spirit of what, 336 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:03,960 oh, you're you paid less money for this console that's less powerful so you 337 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,720 can't do this thing that requires more power. If that is sort of what's 338 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,480 happening here, I'm okay, but I mean you're not wrong. There still 339 00:21:10,599 --> 00:21:11,799 is going to be a slippery slope. There is going to be like, 340 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:14,000 well, the people are like, well, this guy, you know, 341 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,400 this kind of is harder because the Xbox Series S, and I think Xbox 342 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,480 would prefer it be like, well, if it's impossible, maybe we'll listen 343 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,039 to you. If it's harder, we'll try to help you, but you 344 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:26,680 need to there needs to be parodies. So at the same time, I 345 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,799 don't know what other recourse Xbox really has here because they're not going to get 346 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,680 rid of the Xbox Series S. They're not going to put out more powerful 347 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:40,480 or an Xbox SERIESES with more ram, which is what it needs. So 348 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,880 if they're not going to do these things, and even if they were to 349 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,920 go help, it would still be very difficult and they're probably not going to 350 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,000 be able to pull it off to a satisfactory degree themselves to get this feature 351 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:52,319 working. Then I think this is where they have to let up on the 352 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,400 valve. This is the pressure that they have to release, and so yeah, 353 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,680 I don't know what else they could have done other than just keep saying 354 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,440 no to Boulder's Gate three, which seems in saying and not really an option. 355 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:03,640 No. I mean, look, it sucks a little bit to not 356 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:06,839 have you know, co op on series s, but that's you know, 357 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,599 way better than just not having this game on your platform. And you know, 358 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,119 like at a certain point, yeah, the series it is, it 359 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:18,279 is the budget version of the machine. It's going to be compromises there. 360 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:21,279 So, yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Man, I don't know. 361 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:22,200 I don't know if you're going to go to this so quote right away too, 362 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,440 but I know. He was also talking about how he doesn't see a 363 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:27,839 need for a midgen refresh, and that's going to get interesting if Sony does. 364 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:32,599 Yeah, it's just weird. Yeah. So there was a lot of 365 00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:36,880 conversations again with Phil Spencer. He mentioned that I don't know of those headlines, 366 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,680 uh you know which again, I went over a game this morning this 367 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,319 morning, but that one stuck out to me a little bit where he's like, 368 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,319 yeah, like that we think that would muddy the waters with developers and 369 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,440 with gamers and stuff. And he seems pretty dead set on not doing a 370 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,559 midgen refresh. Sony seems like they're working the way up to doing exactly that, 371 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,480 it is going to be weird. I think if if Sony does it 372 00:22:57,519 --> 00:23:02,240 and an Xbox doesn't try to keep up up, But I don't know. 373 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:04,160 At the same time, I don't know what the appetite is for a PS 374 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,119 five Pro, but I guess once it's here that could change in an instance, 375 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,519 So so who knows, But I don't know. Do you think they 376 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:15,400 change their tune? Do you think Xbox isn't working on an Xbox Pro or 377 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,920 Xbox Series x pro of some sort right now? I mean, they have 378 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,480 a hardware team, right Like, why wouldn't they at least be experimenting with 379 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:29,880 that or even thinking about the next console already. I mean, that's the 380 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,000 thing, especially with the way these things work now, and if we if 381 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:34,839 it is this whole Xbox Series Blink thing, it almost makes you think that 382 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,279 the whole point of it is that they're supposed to even more. They're supposed 383 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:44,200 to be more consoles than ever, right yeah, right right where Series X 384 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,680 x X or xx or something and then yeah, that's more powerful and they 385 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:51,440 just replace everything every couple of years. That's what I thought they were gonna 386 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,279 do maybe maybe what he means that, no, we're not going to do 387 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,119 a mid gen refreshed next year or in two years, because in three years 388 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,960 we're just gonna have our next console already. I don't know. It could 389 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,079 be, it could mean anything. That's a good point, that's a really 390 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:04,799 good point. Yeah, Like he's like, we're just thinking about it in 391 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,559 an entirely different way either way. I think, I mean it just it 392 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:15,279 does still sound like he's kind of wanting to stick with these consoles for a 393 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,279 little bit longer than than than Sony's gonna stick with the PS five as their 394 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,960 top options. So right, well, I guess there's it's gonna get rough 395 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:26,960 if they if Sony does have the more powerful thing out there and performance on 396 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:30,039 Xbox Game whenever, Like it's it's rough, people are gonna have very It's 397 00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:33,039 already to lead console for a lot of developers, so it's already running better 398 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:37,759 in a lot of cases. Yep, I'm trying to see. I had 399 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:41,960 a whole bunch of headlines this morning. He said the console prices won't go 400 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,960 down, something that we've not shot. Yeah, right, we know this. 401 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,960 I think everyone kind of gets at this point even if they haven't explicitly 402 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,359 realized it. No one's sitting around waiting for price traps on these consoles. 403 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,200 They know they just need to buy them at the price thing. I mean, 404 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,359 honestly, if you did wait and you were in Europe and actually in 405 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,839 a couple of places here in the United States, it's it's gone down in 406 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,519 price occasionally. I think some people mentioned in the last couple of weeks they 407 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,799 got it for four hundred and fifty dollars here, So yeah, you got 408 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:07,799 you got it on sale. But in terms of permanent price drops, these 409 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:11,960 consoles are almost certainly not going to get that. And if they do for 410 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,039 some reason like oh, people aren't buying it at this price, they'll introduce 411 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,480 that's when they will introduce a model with more storage or whatever, or some 412 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:23,240 other refresh and sell it for the higher price. Again. Yeah, Call 413 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,559 of Duty games who want appear in game Pass immediately, Mike, that's not 414 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:30,799 too surprising either, but he pointed to Bethesda Games as an example. But 415 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,960 test the game started to come to game Pass three days after that deal closed. 416 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,119 Yeah, you would imagine there's certain games that we're going to see on 417 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,079 there pretty quickly that they're probably already even thinking about, Like how long do 418 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,799 you really get the way for a deal before on game pass? I'd be 419 00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:48,319 shocked if it was that long. Yeah, And he said they're looking for 420 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,440 solutions to get those two hundred and twenty Xbox Live Arcade games that might get 421 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,839 lost forever, to keep them around. But he didn't not make any promises, 422 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 but he did talk and say he would. They're looking into some solution 423 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:03,880 there, but no solution is forthcoming. I believe him, but I also 424 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:10,680 can't imagine it's a super high priority. Agreed. Okay, let's see here. 425 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:15,680 Todd Howard wants Elder Scroll six to be the ultimate Fantasy World simulator. 426 00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:18,559 Todd Howard provided an update on the Elder Scroll six announced that e three twenty 427 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:22,599 eighteen, the game is still in early planning stages and we'll follow the release 428 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:26,799 of Starfield. Obviously, the Creation Engine two you used for planning stag stages 429 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,039 could be Creation Engine two would actually really like it's got at least be a 430 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,000 pre like I don't it shouldn't at least be in production now, not necessarily 431 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:41,759 like we're still drawing pictures. What do you mean planning stage? Like six 432 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,839 years ago. I never believe developers when they when they use stuff like that 433 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,680 kind of terminology, when they use like alpha or pre alpha or planning stages, 434 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,920 I think they are we're going to go talk to the audience. And 435 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,000 then the vernacular we use with them and the vernacular we use internally is probably 436 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:00,359 very different. So when they're like and then they say stuff like planning stages, 437 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,039 I think I agree that it's it's like you're probably in production of some 438 00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:08,200 sort or some some people on the team are in production. But yeah, 439 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:11,319 I mean if they if they are still in the planning stages, Mike, 440 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,000 I agree, it's weird. I think Todd Howard might agree. He went 441 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,759 on to say that he thinks it might have been a mistake to announce the 442 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:21,640 game so early. Again announced in twenty eighteen, it's twenty twenty three now 443 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,680 case people didn't know, that's five years ago and the game is still almost 444 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,440 certainly a very long way away. And as I was gonna say, they're 445 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,559 gonna use the same engine that they were using a Starfield, and they've been 446 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,920 using the same engine, just updated over and over. They said they will 447 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,720 make more enhancements to it, which of course they always do as well before 448 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,160 each game. Uh. Yeah, when do you think we get this game, 449 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:47,319 Mike, what's Uh, Man, it's definitely twenty twenty five at the 450 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,640 earliest, and that seems too early. Probably twenty twenty six. Yeah, 451 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,960 I mean I could see it easily getting in the twenty twenty seven too, 452 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:57,319 So yeah, uh, it's a it's a while away. H Yeah. 453 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,880 You know, gosh, it is weird. If I turn this game comes 454 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,880 out, it'll be probably like fifteen years since Elder since Skyrim came out, 455 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:11,319 and it's just weird because things changed so fast from Oblivion and Skyrim coming out 456 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,599 in the same console generation two that like you know, weight three console generations 457 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,640 for the next one, and of course they threw a Starfield in there and 458 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,680 then they try to fall out seventy six and and things like that. That's 459 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,240 fine, but man, yeah, it's a it's a different world. Yeah, 460 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,599 And he mentions like it's not ideal that there's such a big weight between 461 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,720 a Skyrim and Elder Scroll six, but he did mention that Starfield is one 462 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,440 of the reasons why why it makes sense that it's taking so long. And 463 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:42,400 then of course the enduring popularity of Skyrim, which they've released many times and 464 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,799 continues to sell, so they've kind of gotten away with it, and so 465 00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:51,000 they're like, yeah, we it worked, so when we get around to 466 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,680 it, it'll probably makes it'll probably be fine. But still, uh, 467 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,880 it's it's very strange how long it's taken, I guess, or just feel 468 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,480 strange. Honestly when you start looking at it's, oh, it makes perfect 469 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,359 sense, right, you understand why it happens. Yeah, but it is 470 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,160 just interesting that. Yeah. Again, it used to be every few years 471 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,440 you would get a new Outer Scrolls and now it's like, oh, the 472 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,480 next one comes out before I die, Yeah, exactly, And that's like 473 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,960 that's where it's. It's gaming like this, Our games like this sustainable long 474 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:19,480 term and you know, if you've got Microsoft your back, maybe, but 475 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:26,319 it's like other studios trying to do what Bethesda does now it doesn't seem sustainable. 476 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:27,559 So right, I mean that's where it's. It's gonna be interesting when 477 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,519 we can see a vow right, which is like we're going to try to 478 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,880 make our own sky room with you know, with with Moxie and Exelbo reason 479 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,319 you know, yeah, it goes Yeah, I mean I definitely got the 480 00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,839 sense from that last trailer. They're like, well, we still got the 481 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,880 Moxie, but maybe we don't quite got the sky room anymore. We'll see, 482 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,480 I've got a little bit. We'll see. Yeah, well maybe we'll 483 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:52,359 be happy with that. Me too. I know what you will be happy 484 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,200 with. Mike Danuba is coming to switch Dnuvo. For people who don't know, 485 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,279 I bet most of you do. It is that anti piracy, anti 486 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:04,519 uh you know, emulation, anti hacking tool that shows up, but a 487 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,039 lot of games that tries to that tries to keep us so you can't get 488 00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:12,119 a cracked copy on the internet for free. It is now going to be 489 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,880 available in the Nintendo Development Portal for developers to use, and it's it's coming 490 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,000 explicitly with anti emulation guard. So it's going to try to make it more 491 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,559 difficult for games that run on switch to run on switch emulators on the PC. 492 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,160 Dnuvo, the company that runs du Nuvo, said, oh ya hey, 493 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,319 a lot of games are very easy to run on a switch emulator, 494 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,759 So even if you have a protection and other versions of the game, people 495 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,400 will just go to the Switch version because that's been very easy to emulate. 496 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:41,559 It's like, well, this will put a stop to that, and of 497 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,119 course it might for a little bit. All these games usually get cracked eventually 498 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,319 a third number of weeks, although there was a period there in the last 499 00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:52,039 couple of years where it was like months would go by and no one had 500 00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:55,559 cracked a couple of Denuvo and Protected games, so like they're always getting better, 501 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,680 but then the scene always catches up. Still, Denuvo has some pretty 502 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,359 bad reputation for causing performance issues in games. There's always a debate about whether 503 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,400 or not that's actually true. I lean to the side of it almost certainly 504 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,720 is true, and Switch doesn't have any performance to spare right, No, 505 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,200 it certainly does not. Certainly does not. It's a weird thing. I 506 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,400 think, like a lot of people work. Maybe I think this is more 507 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,839 of a preparing for Switch too thing. I guess I would make some sense, 508 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,680 and hopefully there's enough power and a Switch too to make up for that. 509 00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:30,000 But it doesn't sound ideal. It's hard to be happy about this. 510 00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,559 Yep, yep, it's it's just kind of frustrating and annoying. And then 511 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:40,200 Dark Forces Interroc three remasters are coming from Nightdive Studios. Both look really good. 512 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,160 I'm very happy about this. I'm gonna play both. Mike. Yeah, 513 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,079 well, yeah, I actually played Dark Forces not too long ago. 514 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,680 Because of the Force Engine, which is a fan tool on PC that makes 515 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,079 these games runs on modern PCs with a lot of cool enhancements. I think 516 00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:55,920 the Fource engine guy, it's not using the Force Engine on this, this 517 00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,599 is Nikedives engine, but he helped with some stuff. And you know, 518 00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:01,880 there's there's other things, like they redid the cut scenes. I'm sure I 519 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,279 feel about the Redone cut scenes, but it doesn't It's like I don't hate 520 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:07,920 it, but I know I'm yeah. I hope that we have the option 521 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,759 to switch between the new and old cut scenes, or the and or the 522 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:14,200 new and old game with a click of a button. I hope that's how 523 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,039 it works. But this is great. Dark Forces is fantastic. Turk Three's 524 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:21,720 interesting because it was it was really taxing in TIL sixty four. It was 525 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:23,960 made as kind of like, oh, we're influenced by Half Life, now 526 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,400 we have to make a more story driven shooter. Good luck with that on 527 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,599 TIL sixty four. So, and it's only everybody in Tail sixty four never 528 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,680 has been ported anywhere else. So having that on more platforms and having Dark 529 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,559 Forces on every platform. That's great. Nice. Ive has done really good 530 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:43,359 work with all the retro shooters. I'm you know, at this point, 531 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,079 they've been getting to a lot of the big ones. I hope that it 532 00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:50,039 continues to hope we get Jedi Night, maybe gets some of the other weird 533 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,440 ones they haven't done. Hex and her hair Tic get happy. That's that's 534 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,000 what I was thinking. I'm like, and Microsoft, you know, was 535 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,799 it the hex and shirt or a Hairtic shirt that Phil Spencer was wearing. 536 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,480 I believe so, you know, and he's talked about Hexit a bunch of 537 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:07,960 times, so maybe he could snacked that to work on that. Maybe not, 538 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,960 but it would be very cool if he did. I forgot what I 539 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,039 was going to say about these oh Dark Forces. It's come a long way, 540 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,039 because I remember when I first got the steam Deck, I was like, 541 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,680 I'm gonna plack Dark Forces on there, and it's like, oh, 542 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:22,319 didn't It's not working. Well whatever, it's the steam Deck. So I 543 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,359 tried to get at working on the PC and it's like, oh, this 544 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,200 is actually kind of a headache. And then since then the Force engine is 545 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,960 that what it is? Force Engine? Since then that has come out and 546 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,799 made it easier. But it's like, now it's gonna have an official port 547 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,319 everywhere, and it's just gonna work on your switch or your Xbox or your 548 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,480 PlayStation. And that's what's really good. At these games. You usually have 549 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,039 gyro controls, like so you can do that for adjusting aiming. That's how 550 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:49,000 I played Quick one and Truck one was on and Powersley was on switch and 551 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,960 it works really well that way actually, So yeah, this is great. 552 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,720 It's good stuff. And then Activision Blitzter games are going to Ubisoft Plus. 553 00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:00,799 Microsoft in an effort to win over win approval from the CMA and the UK 554 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,799 for its deal to acquire Activision, has made a deal with Ubisoft to give 555 00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:12,079 them the worldwide cloud gaming rights for all Activision Blizzard games for fifteen years, 556 00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,239 which means if you want to stream Call of Duty after this deal closes, 557 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:19,800 you'll do it through Ubisoft Plus. This is weird, but also it does 558 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,760 feel like it would solve their problems. So I don't know, what do 559 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,639 you think, Mike, Yeah, I mean it doesn't really impact us, 560 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,440 right, so whatever if this uh you know it, this really affects anyone, 561 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,679 right because these games will be available if you wanted to stream them from 562 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,719 the cloud, Like, it'll just work. Yeah, do you think regulators 563 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,119 are gonna buy it? I mean, I can't see how they. I 564 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:40,440 mean, I guess they'll. They could still say, well, fifteen years, 565 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,079 Well what happens after that? But it's like fifteen years is more than 566 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:49,079 enough time for this market to get settled out and for new players to come 567 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:52,719 in and yeah, and for Ubisoft to make deals with other companies using the 568 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,639 active ship buzzer games that Microsoft would own. So it would be very weird 569 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,159 if they would say no to it at this point, but they've been very 570 00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:02,199 weird up to this point. So we'll see. No idea, no idea 571 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,880 what they're gonna do, but hey, well we will probably find out soon. 572 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,800 They did have to start a new investigation. The CMA said we got 573 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,559 a new phase one investigation happening. Phase one. Everybody here that we're on 574 00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:17,400 phase one. Now, that's so depressing, But I hope that they're kind 575 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,599 of just saying that, like because they're we got to do our due diligence. 576 00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,400 But it's like, come on, motherfucking this is not that difficult. 577 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,280 You're gonna do some math sure, go do your math and then come back 578 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,440 and tell us what you think. I bet your decision and won't won't be 579 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:36,039 based on math. Actually probably not. All right, that doesn't for the 580 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,719 news I have here. But Mike, we have some super chats which we'll 581 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,679 get to. Do you have something to say? Sorry? I was gonna 582 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:43,400 say what you take a break, and it seems like that's what you're doing. 583 00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:45,880 So hey, look at some super chats with a bunch of other stuff. 584 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,920 We'll get to it right after this. Thanks everybody. All right, 585 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,559 Mike, super chats have been coming in and I want to I want to 586 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,320 hear him, so read them to me. Yes, Baba is b says. 587 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,199 It seems messed up that the Sony Pulse three D headphones Sony pause that 588 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,079 sounds like a strip club to me won't connect to the new poor device. 589 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:07,519 I wonder what Jimbo Ryan has to say about this. Uh? Okay, 590 00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,400 so I is that true? I thought the Pulse three D headphones should because 591 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,360 they're worth through PlayStation connect now or the PlayStation Okay, wait, is the 592 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:22,039 Pulse three D the old headphones? Oh that's what they mean then? Yeah? 593 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,559 Yeah, so the new ones the Pulse explore. Yeah. Yeah, 594 00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:30,239 but I mean those will work too because those are yeah yeah, yeah, 595 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,519 that's what I'm saying. Those will work. The new ones will work because 596 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:37,039 they use the proprietary tech, right, yeah, it makes sense that the 597 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:42,039 old ones don't work because they use a USB dongle. So you know those 598 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,840 don't use Bluetooth. Well no, all jeff all wireless heads as usually you 599 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,639 USB dongle because low lancy. Yeah, there's there's low latency versions of Bluetooth, 600 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,119 not not at that level. Okay, well, I mean this conversation 601 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,719 is boring. There are someone paying money to talk about this. Yes, 602 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,679 there are low enough latency Bluetooth things, but yes that was are faster. 603 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,000 The dedicated ones are definitely faster. I think it's it's fine, like half 604 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,519 the time, it's no trying because I use a wireless hats ideal. A 605 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:16,960 lot of research on this, I know. Yeah yeah, with the fastest 606 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,840 like one is like lt no, that's like low power. The low power 607 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,880 one is like yeah, it is faster, but either way haptex ll no 608 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,159 one used it anymoren't even that's one hundred mill seconds like wireless headsets are like 609 00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,800 fifty. Yeah, so it's this is the kind of thing where it's weird, 610 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,960 but if if you are in the Sony ecosystem, this does do some 611 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,119 pretty cool stuff where it does. The head sets themselves also have Bluetooth, 612 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,760 so you can connect to like a Bluetooth your phone or whatever and the gaming 613 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,000 device at the same time, and they're coming through it simultaneously, so you 614 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,480 can get the discord on that, I guess. And then the earbuds are 615 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,400 actually pretty cool because it's so hard to find low lancy earbuds right now, 616 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,440 so if that works as advertised, those will actually be like really neat. 617 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,960 Yes, it's uh, it's frustrating because that the delay on this standard Bluetooth 618 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,920 protocol is fucking ad ADP or a a TP whatever the fuck, it's really 619 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,840 bad. Okay, what else? Mike uh Diegar pieces as a wrestling friendly 620 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,960 podcast in honor of bray Watt's passing. Any favorite matches. Uh yeah, 621 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,920 I definitely though Why Family versus The Shield was very, very very good stuff. 622 00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:29,360 I love the Why Family especially was really fun time, a really good 623 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,679 time. Jeff, how about you? Yeah, like some of his matches 624 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,320 against Daniel Bryant at the time, and and I really you know, it's 625 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,639 been a joke, but I really like them. Out and two pitched up 626 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,960 Pitch black Match. Uh it's uh yeah, you're right, it was. 627 00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,119 It was good, silly fun. It knew what it was and he I 628 00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:49,679 think he can make anything kind of work. He was. It was a 629 00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:52,920 worker and I don't know. I really like Bray Wyatt. I really did. 630 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,159 This is a yeah, rest in peace. That's kind of devastating news. 631 00:38:55,199 --> 00:39:00,320 It really is. It's shocking. Connal Wood says it. It'd be 632 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,159 a new portable sunny device if it wasn't tied to at least one proprietary stand 633 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,519 former m D, Vita memory cards and now PlayStation link. Ah. The 634 00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:15,400 um d's yep, um d's are so. I'm glad it's not the sony 635 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,199 hardware like like software format anymore, where it's like, okay, we're gonna 636 00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,440 put our games on weird stuff, you know, I guess the Vita cards 637 00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:28,280 or whatever. But the wireless protocol, there's reasons. So that's fine. 638 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:36,719 Ezekiel Bouchette, Who should I say this? You think so cheap? Okay? 639 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,760 Game dev? Game dev's on all these now. Oh, I'm sorry, 640 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,400 you're right, my bad. I don't know I just got confused for 641 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,760 a second bike. It's one of those days. It's okay an old man. 642 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,920 Do you want to read this one? It is directed at you can. 643 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,159 The next one on all sides is rough. My back end team got 644 00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:57,880 shifted recently, high level. We're all still employed, which is great. 645 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,199 Shout out to Colin, Genie, Jen Jenny, excuse me, Nina, 646 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,239 John Thomas, Ray, passionate people. Yeah, shout out to you, 647 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,639 Ezekiel and your team. Sorry budd yea yeah, sorry sorry. Big Afroman 648 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,000 says Jeff, what's up with Jazz saying on Xbox two that you have his 649 00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:16,079 nude picks and are blackmailing him so he doesn't leak certain things? Care to 650 00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:20,239 explain? I don't know. Can you trust anything like that? No? 651 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,559 I don't think you can get with his beans. No. Yeah, especially 652 00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:25,239 someone someone who has nudes out there flowing around. I don't have them, 653 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,519 but I wouldn't trust anything like that. Doctor butt Hugger says, buyowere magic 654 00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:32,360 is still there? You know, Jeff, I see a lot of people 655 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,679 kind of say this. People used to say it about was it all time? 656 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,039 And I get what they mean, and I get that they don't really 657 00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:42,920 mean magic. But you know, magic is not real. There's only hard 658 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,760 work, good management and in other factors like that, in good people. 659 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,159 But it's also there's a part he getst Tyron, like, oh, those 660 00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,599 people aren't there anymore. Well, you had a company like BioWare, who's 661 00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:59,440 like first prime was in like nineteen ninety seven, of course, right, 662 00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:01,599 but you know, people, a lot of people making Zota today are the 663 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:06,079 people who are making links of the past, and that series is still able 664 00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:09,840 to manage. Well, So it's not necessarily about magic. I know. 665 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,840 I don't mean, like, you know, woo magic, I know what 666 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,599 you mean by magic. I don't really think it's about that. I think 667 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:22,599 it's just about management and a lot of these other factors. Culture. Culture 668 00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,119 is the important thing, right You kind of have to keep a culture consistent 669 00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:30,639 throughout all time. You can't be swayed by trends like let's make everything online 670 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,920 multiplayer and let's you know, have fifteen zillion micro transactions, and we think 671 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,400 RPGs aren't cool anymore. It's just a shooter now. That's that's the kinds 672 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,039 of you get to work against. It's yeah, I mean, Walt Disney 673 00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:47,559 has been dead for a long time and Disney still has some appeal and it's 674 00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:51,360 like, well, how does that work? Well, I mean it works 675 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,400 in that the people that get good into certain discipline want to go work at 676 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,880 these studios, and so it's up to the people that running those studios to 677 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,559 make sure that they're attracting that kind of people. You're a lot of people 678 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,199 working at Byware who came there because they deeply care about Byware and their games 679 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,440 and the and their fans. Uh And I think a lot of those people 680 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,719 were previously working on Star Wars the Old Republic and kind of getting that game 681 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,920 back in the shape, and a lot of those people are in charge of 682 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,239 Byeware, and I think that's mostly a good thing. I would still expect 683 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,159 good things from Buy Aware. Great things might be difficult, but I think 684 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,480 I think the studio has the possibility still have games that really please fans. 685 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:31,320 So I think the mass effect of Legendary Edition that that sort of love letter. 686 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,559 I've kind of kind of proved that to a certain extent. Now let's 687 00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:37,719 just see if they can do that with a new game. Uh Aramis Barmis 688 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,280 says, just wanted to say thanks for reporting on the Buyoor stuff. I 689 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:47,119 think it's an important topic and some kind of ignored it. I don't know, 690 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,800 you think many people ignored it. I mean I wasn't like taking the 691 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,880 tones of anything. That's I'd be surprised that because I haven't been picked too 692 00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,320 much to be also stuff. A lot of people also do have a lot 693 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,320 of their staff at games Colm right now too, So maybe that's true. 694 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,480 That could be part of it. That's definitely true. Yes, The Seen 695 00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,559 says you played a trailer for the Last Faith earlier. I just finished the 696 00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:12,800 beta and it's basically blood Borne meets Sympathy of the Night and lay a lot. 697 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,880 Yeah, this was another cool looking one, Jeff. I think you 698 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,679 remember, yes, seeing this one too? Look I do. Yeah, 699 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,159 that's is that the one that we watched twice because we watched the summer game 700 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,320 Fast one? Okay, yeah, I thought that ended up looking pretty good. 701 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,599 So yeah, I'll try the beta. Hitch says, why don't they 702 00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,639 remaster Dragon Age one? Excuse me, what's the next PlayStation PC game? 703 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:32,760 Okay, two questions there. First, off, Dragon Age one, I've 704 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,599 asked you this before, Jeff, I think I understand why they don't necessarily 705 00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:39,239 want to do a trilogy. Remaster like they did with Mass Effect, But 706 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,079 why not just do one? At least are they worried that people will bristle 707 00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,559 because expectations are for a whole trilogy? Now? Yeah, well, I 708 00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:53,159 think the sort of it makes more sense as a trilogy, and if they 709 00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,159 they could do it as trilogy, because then you can put it out as 710 00:43:55,199 --> 00:44:00,039 this big sixty seventy dollars thing. Right, if you're just from remastering Dragon 711 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,960 Age one, you got to do it a lot of extra work. You 712 00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,239 basically have to do a remake to get to a sixty dollars seventy dollars thing. 713 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,159 And then then at the expectation is, well, then they'll do two 714 00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:10,840 and three, and it's like, well they're not. They're not going to 715 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,800 do that. I don't can't remember. This is a crept but I know 716 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,599 at least looked uglier than Mass Effect. But I remember despite coming out after 717 00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:22,119 Mass Effect one, dragon Age one may have been older tech or at least 718 00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,239 it was like definitely a noticeably ugly It wasn't unreal engine, right, it 719 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,320 was not an unreal engine. It was in development longer even than Mass Effects, 720 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,920 So yeah, it would be harder to probably Mass remaster than any of 721 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,960 those Mass Effect games, where even the first one right right, and the 722 00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:40,719 Mass Effect games were one continuous story with with with like the same character and 723 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,119 it was all in the Unreal engine, so like it was just all kind 724 00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,679 of lined up easy to do a remaster trilogy of that. Dragon Age doesn't 725 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,000 really have that going for it. Obviously, a lot of crossover characters and 726 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,280 a lot of characters from from one game the other, but not in the 727 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,960 same way as Massive right, and definitely not. It's a different main character 728 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,119 in each of those games. It's not like you have your shepherd that you're 729 00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:01,719 shepherding between each game. Heaven says no. Kevin says, this wasn't devote 730 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,239 in a long time. Somebody said, chat now men missing it. It 731 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,280 might have been the freaking never Winter Night's engine. Which is that? Man, 732 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,880 that's true, that's incredible, But I might I might believe that to 733 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,559 be honest. Seriously, Uh okay, uh it was the next It was 734 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:21,000 the next PlayStation game for PC. You think, uh, we've had which 735 00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:24,199 which gets for one? Have we not had yet? And everyone dont Shushima 736 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,679 yet? No, it's probably goes to Sushi probably shoo. Yeah, it'd 737 00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:34,000 probably goes to Shushima. Al Right, Simon says odds of a second PlayStation 738 00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:37,239 showcase Slash first Party Focus stayed to play before the end of the year. 739 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,599 They were completely absent from Games Con. Uh, like ninety percent first stay 740 00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,880 to play in September. Okay, Achievement says, did you see that Arby's 741 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,199 parent companies buying Subway for nine billion? For that money, would you rather 742 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,159 have subway or I mean, I mean, do you think I talk about 743 00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:58,199 this? It's all me and Mike talk about. Yeah, I would. 744 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,599 If I was a business person, I would much they have subway than that 745 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,960 done. Subways are everywhere, but it's also I don't know. I think 746 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,880 subways best states are behind it, but maybe not. This is our two 747 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:14,280 Uh. I'll tell you what. I'm surprised. I always would have assumed 748 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,119 that it would be the other way around, that Subway would be buying Arby's. 749 00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:20,960 But maybe Arby's parent company has like a lot of other buckets going they 750 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,679 were partly they probably like make munitions for the military. Yeah, you're probably 751 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:31,440 right. It's like the leftover aluminum gets used for the sandwiches. Then a 752 00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:36,719 charter Wolf says for armored course, six Metacritic, Mike said ninety one and 753 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,239 Jeff said eighty seven. Metacritics score is at eighty seven for both PC and 754 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,920 places you five, so I can't even like complain about the platform like x 755 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,639 Flox has way fewer reviews. So whatever, you get two points? Oh 756 00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:53,639 my god, hope fun you got me missed by one? Good come on, 757 00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:59,480 maybe that will change. Damn it and nailed it. Dang, we're 758 00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,840 good at this. Uh. By the way, I'll talk about some Armored 759 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,119 Core six when we do our talking about games we've been playing because I didn't 760 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:10,239 publish my review. Fantastic, looking forward to it. But that's it for 761 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,440 Superchest for now. Guys. If you want to send anymore, we will 762 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,719 read them before the end of the show. Thank you all so much for 763 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,440 setting in the Superchest. Thank you for watching and having that like button. 764 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,679 We appreciate it. All right, we're gonna take another quick break as we 765 00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:22,719 get set up for a quick game that we're gonna play. We'll be back 766 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:28,599 after this. All right, let's get going. We have a closest to 767 00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,119 the messy pin. That means I stopped talking and Sean starts. Now that's 768 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,719 right, it's time for Everyone's Favorite Game Show with Them podcast, Yeah Again. 769 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,880 We're at volume fourteen and Closest to the Messy Pin presented by Me Turboshaun 770 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:45,719 Power by Metacritic, executively produced as always by Benji Bop. Now reminder for 771 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,000 everyone if you don't know the rules. Every round, the boys will be 772 00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:52,159 given a certified retro game that means a game older than ten years as of 773 00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:55,400 this recording. The goal is to predict the game score. As a stance 774 00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:00,199 on metacritic dot com. We use a Closest to the Pin scoring system, 775 00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:04,880 meaning every point deviate you are from the actual score, you'll be given one 776 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,559 point. They go at the end of the game is have the low score 777 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,360 golf rules. If you guess the exact number and step of zero, you 778 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:16,280 deduct five points from your total score. I should really check this before we 779 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,519 start these games. Who won last I won last time? Well, yeah, 780 00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:22,239 I feel like Mike would know if you wont last time, so I'm 781 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,199 gonna trust him on that, which means that Chef gets to pick first. 782 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,960 I need you to tell me, what do you think? Mech Assault for 783 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,480 the original Xbox has November eleven, two thousand and two of this game came 784 00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:37,880 out. This is based on thirty two critic reviews. I'm okay, Mecassault 785 00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:44,519 for the Xbox from two thousand and two. I am going to say, 786 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,800 let's see if Armored Core six gets an eighty seven, I'm gonna say this 787 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,880 one got an eighty five. Oh wait, can I'm gonna say eighty three? 788 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,880 Please eighty three final answers, Yeah, that's my final answer. Yeah, 789 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,519 Mike, I remember this game being one of the better liked Xbox exclusives. 790 00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:05,000 I'm gonna a in eighty five. Shit, please don't pick any I 791 00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:07,239 hope it's in eighty five. Gott I hope it's in eighty five. Well, 792 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:15,800 Mecca Sol currently has and probably for whoever we'll have a eighty seven. 793 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,719 If I wanted to say eighty seven, because that's any game that I had 794 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,800 to go for eighty five that I had to go for eighty five, I 795 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,159 wanted to say eighty seven. Then I talked myself out of it because of 796 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:30,679 Armored Course six. Al right, game number two Front Mission four. I 797 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:37,000 knew this was gonna be the theme even who would have done June fifteen, 798 00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,760 two thousand and four, thirty nine Craig for reviews Mikey's turn to go first. 799 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,280 Yeah, that's this is rough because we didn start gained these games. 800 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,440 Still three here, I think kind of niche. Uh, I want to 801 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,880 say like a I'm gonna say like a seventy eight. I don't really know, 802 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,159 but I don't think it could have done too well. Okay, well 803 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,920 enough are you typing out over there? I'm pretty sure I won last time, 804 00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:00,800 and I'm not really complaining. It doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure I 805 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,719 won last I just didn't really close. Maybe yeah, it was we were 806 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,000 tied in the last round and then I think I went low and you went 807 00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:09,280 high, and it was like and I think, yeah, okay, well 808 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,239 look I can't help, but that by break protects me. But it'll be 809 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,039 false memory. Somebody could have said something earlier. I was just like, 810 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:20,239 you were so confident, but it was I was pretty sure, yeah, 811 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,480 won before none of us, none of us said. I thinks, so 812 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:28,719 hey, we're all didn't really matter. It's like, all right, Jeff, 813 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,599 how are you feeling? Uh? I think seventy it's a really good 814 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:37,800 answer. That's how I'm feeling. Front Mission four for PlayStation two two thousand 815 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,079 and four. I'll go with a set, I'll go with it. I'll 816 00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:44,599 go with the seventy nine. Well nine, all right, going a little 817 00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:51,760 higher than all right? From Mission four has a seventy five. It was 818 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:57,760 a little bit lower, right, all right, I don't know. Okay, 819 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,519 Mike's in the lead five points to Jeff's a. Game Number three is 820 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:08,559 Steel Battalion Heavy Armor for the Xbox three sixty June nineteen, twenty twelve, 821 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:17,000 fifty eight Crick reviews, Jeff, Uh, I'm gonna go with a seventy 822 00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:23,280 seven. Okay, this is the connect one this game. I'd do way 823 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,320 worse than that. Oh, it's just the connect. Oh it's the count. 824 00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:28,559 Oh yeah, my shit, it's the connected when he did it. 825 00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:31,400 No, this is my chance. Yeah, never mind, this sucks. 826 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:38,119 Oh, you stupid son of a bitch. You're going to be closer. 827 00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:42,239 Oh yeah, it's I think it's real low. I can play it a 828 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,119 little safer and still get like seventeen points. I'll say, uh, let's 829 00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:50,800 say it is sixty. I don't want to say anything because that really answer. 830 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,679 If I could change it would be like a thirty five. Well, 831 00:51:54,840 --> 00:52:05,280 Steel Battalion Heavy Armor has a thirty eight metac lower on even lower, but 832 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,000 I was like, get it up. Points the wits. Bengie likes us 833 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,920 away. He makes me press these buns along. Okay, let on two, 834 00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:16,360 three, four, Okay, yay. Update for the audio listeners. 835 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,760 That means Mike is in the league twenty seven to Jeff's forties. Yeah, 836 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,159 if you only look, I see. Yeah, it sucks because it's like 837 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,639 we there's never been one. I'm so sure it was in the thirties, 838 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,719 Like we had a couple and those were always like, oh no, we 839 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,159 have like ad like forty points store scores. I'm like, no, this 840 00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:37,440 one I know was in the thirties. I just know it, all right. 841 00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:44,079 Game number four Zeno Gears released on the PS one October twentieth, nineteen 842 00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:47,679 ninety eight. Fifteen. Craig reviews Mike's pick. Yeah, people like Zeno 843 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:58,480 Gears. Uh, I'm gonna say in eighty eighty people really like Zeno Gears. 844 00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:00,920 But did they like it that much at the time? Uh, eighty 845 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:07,800 eight? All right, I'm gonna go with an eighty two. Yeah it's 846 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:15,280 eighty two. Yeah, there we go. Not a ton of thinking they 847 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,719 are explaining on this one. Just I mean, part of it's like I 848 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,960 gotta do math right because I need it. I need to be so far 849 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,239 away from Mike, and I got to get it exactly right to like get 850 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,440 started, like to close the gap. Yeah, yeah, I know, 851 00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:31,800 I know people liked it, but I also know that people did not like 852 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,280 it nearly as much as like some of the other RPGs at the time. 853 00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:42,559 All right, well, Zeno Gears has a eighty four. You're close, 854 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,599 still two points off. Mike was four points off. Yeah, that makes 855 00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:51,519 some sense because you know it does have that unfinished third disc, which I 856 00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:55,199 think probably bristled a lot of reviewers split the quality elsewhere. Yeah, still 857 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,760 a very strong score though, Speaking of scores going into the final game, 858 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:05,159 my guess thirty one jeffs forty nine. You have to take an interesting turn 859 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,239 here if you want to turn things around me. I'm just hoping it's a 860 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:14,079 really bad game. So it's Dynasty Warriors Gundam three, at least for the 861 00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:19,079 Xbox three. Sixty June twenty eight, twenty eleven, twenty seven creat Reviews 862 00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:24,119 Only. Jeff, Hey, Mike, can we just to make it interesting? 863 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,079 Would you mind letting me go second? So I have a chance. 864 00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:30,960 Look at this, Look at this you know what, I'll do it because 865 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,800 I did accidentally take going first. Okay, it seems completely fair, thank 866 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,880 you, Okay, thanks fair, right, thank you. I am going 867 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:45,480 to give it. I'm gonna say it got a sixty three, all right, 868 00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:52,400 say thy middling middling reviews for this third Dynasty Warriors Gundam game. I 869 00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:55,639 pinned you down a bit there. Yeah, it's tough. Okay, I'm 870 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,679 going to go with a I let mean, we just do the math again 871 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:07,519 real quick. I'm gonna go with a forty four. Yay, wowing really 872 00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:08,760 low. I mean, but what choice do I have. I should have 873 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,920 gone so much lower, even on the connect Still Battalion games. We'll see, 874 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:20,239 alright, zillion points there, well, the beloved classic Dynasty Warriors Gunnedham 875 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:30,000 three sits at what's sixty fun? Alright, okay, let's go. Mike 876 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:35,039 was only two points off, Jeff was twenty one points off. It's fist, 877 00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:42,119 which means final scores Mike thirty three, Jeff failing a bit, just 878 00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:45,960 like the robot in the KIF Yeah, it's like that robot. Incredible, 879 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,719 very good, very fun game. That was fun, good game, Benji, 880 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,920 Thank you for that. Absolutely all right. We are you know what, 881 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,079 we'll do the next break before the game. So let's work. We're 882 00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,880 gonna do a best Game of two thous We've been doing these lists, picking 883 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,920 the five best games of the year. We've done several so far. Now 884 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,480 we're going to do the best Game of two thousand. I am going to 885 00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:13,719 get the things set up after I get my first option here. This was 886 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,280 the year that Tony ex pro Skater two came out, Mike, it sure 887 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,159 is. That's one of the best games of all time, So I am 888 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,800 for me, it's almost a certain lock, and I am you know that's 889 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,360 gonna be the first thing I put up there. It's just hey, Tony 890 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,119 Ox pro Skater made our list last year for nineteen ninety nine because it was 891 00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:34,920 one of the better, and this is just better. And it really leaned 892 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,679 into a lot of times games will come out and studios will have a pretty 893 00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:42,039 good idea what makes it good. They kept everything that made it good, 894 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:45,039 and then they knew where they could make it better, which was the combo 895 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,280 system. It was the Emmanuel and it was like, if we had a 896 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,519 way to connect some of these things so you can get even bigger combos, 897 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,079 it like just will push people's skill level higher and higher and higher. And 898 00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:58,320 that's what it did. I remember, you know, playing Tony ex pro 899 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,920 Skater two on dream Cast on my friend's house, over and over and over 900 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,679 again every day after school, getting so good at it and having competitions going 901 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,400 back and forth. Remember when we first got the million point scores, and 902 00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:13,199 you know, of course the soundtrack and the style and the skaters and the 903 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,960 attitude, all that stuff was tip top. It's just such a good game, 904 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,679 a game that I can literally go back and play any any moment of 905 00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:22,880 any day and have a good time with. And of course the one and 906 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,440 two remix have been fantastic. No, yep, no arguments there. Love 907 00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:30,079 Tony expos Kier two. The only reason I like, I'm like, I 908 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,199 don't bristle against it. But like my one thing is I like three even 909 00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:35,760 more? Sure, that's one I always think about even more than two. 910 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,159 But you're right, yeah, but if we're looking at it, if we 911 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,320 look at two thousand in a vacuum a little bit, it's like, man, 912 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,119 the fact that that came along and was that much better, even the 913 00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:46,719 first one, which was already so good, was super impressive. All right, 914 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,519 Let me get I'm gonna get this sheet going, so Mike, if 915 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:55,199 you have any usations let me Now. There's a there's a couple. There's 916 00:57:55,199 --> 00:58:00,719 a few games I really really like that came out in this year. I 917 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,440 think maybe the biggest one for me is actually going to be diab Below two, 918 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,280 which God was a game I just loved playing then when I've gone back 919 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,039 to it throughout the years again another game and had a great remake by the 920 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:17,599 same deplover. Actually right there we go, Diabo two is sotill the pinnacle 921 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,360 of that series for me, as much as I did enjoy Diablo four Debo 922 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,920 two, It's just really nailed things in terms of tone, the kind of 923 00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:30,599 the aesthetic, the feeling. You know, it has some of that old 924 00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:34,360 RPG stuff that maybe feels outdated, but it just works really well here, 925 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,679 like things like having to use Mana potions and having to have arrows and stuff 926 00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:40,559 like that. I don't know, I just couldn't get enough of this game 927 00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:45,320 when it came out. I thought it was the most amazing thing, beautiful 928 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,039 CG cutsteins that managed to take themselves seriously, which was kind of harder to 929 00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:52,079 do back then, and it did that very well. Yeah, nothing but 930 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,280 love for Diablow two. Yeah, it's kind of hard to imagine this list 931 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:04,639 without Diablow two on it. Uh yeah, let me see you see if 932 00:59:04,639 --> 00:59:09,000 I get my list up that I was looking at earlier. Okay, some 933 00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:13,320 people have mentioned the Sims came out in uh in two day yea. How 934 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,159 do you feel about the Sims. It's just sort of been like, really 935 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,639 my thing, Like I appreciate it. It's it's it's kind of fun. 936 00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:22,519 I'm not like, you know, giant Sims guy or anything. I uh, 937 00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:27,920 Majority's mask was this year in the United States, right it, Sure, 938 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,079 it was. Yeah, I really like Major's mask, and I'm gonna 939 00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:35,800 put it on the shortlist. And that's just because I'm not I'm it's not 940 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,679 one that I'm like, oh I I Majorit's mask is one of my favorite 941 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,800 Zelda's so I usually don't think about it in these terms. But we'll see 942 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,400 what two thousand looks like, and I think I definitely want to consider it 943 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,000 at it's it's it's weird Zelda. I mean, I love when Zelda is 944 00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:53,320 weird. It is It's got a lot of interesting ideas once you kind of 945 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:58,119 get once you start understanding how to work within the confines of the time limit. 946 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,320 It's actually super engaged in a lot of ways because it's it's at first 947 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,800 you start the game, you're like, I hate the idea of losing all 948 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,039 this progress I made, and that's like, that gives me a lot of 949 01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:14,719 anxiety, and then you realize, actually it's a little bit freeing because it's 950 01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:17,679 really fantastic to go into a world that has been reset and know exactly what 951 01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:21,719 you need to do, and then you're just like clicking like one button after 952 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,840 another another to get the world back in the state where you were. It's 953 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,000 like, last time, this took me the whole three day period. Now 954 01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:29,280 I'm doing it and a little bit of time, and I have all the 955 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,920 time left to keep exploring new avenues, and so it was really interesting in 956 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,119 that way. But at the same time, it's not one I've gone I've 957 01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:39,400 had the need to really go back and play either. So, but George's 958 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,239 mask on the short list on a short list, I like it. Also, 959 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,400 I kind of didn't learn to appreciate until much later, really with the 960 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,320 three DS re release. At that time, I think I was intimidated by 961 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:58,000 it, but certainly I do like it a good bit now. Final Fantasy 962 01:00:58,199 --> 01:01:02,679 nine Jeff is, Yeah, it's definitely my favorite of the single player foun 963 01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:06,840 fantasies, which is a funny distinction to make these days, but I think 964 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,039 this is the kind of the epitome of that series as it was in the 965 01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:16,159 ATB turn based era, just of gorgeous looking placesation one game still like that 966 01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:21,000 style that they started with Found fifty seven, you know, free under backgrounds, 967 01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:24,800 the model characters and just the really slick CG cut scenes, the incredible 968 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,559 music that's us all here, and a kind of setting in tone that's a 969 01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:34,280 bit more of my jib that's kind of more fanciful fantasy setting with a lot 970 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,639 of fun characters like VV and Steiner. This is just a really really good 971 01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:44,159 time, super easy, but still deep enough RPG. It's got a fun 972 01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:47,679 system where you learn abilities based on the items you equip, so you're sometimes 973 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,000 encouraged to equip weaker weapons so that you can earn an ability. That's always 974 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,719 been really interesting. Love love, love, love love this game. I'm 975 01:01:55,719 --> 01:02:00,159 a big found fantasy guy and this is uh, this one is always going 976 01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:02,960 to be dear to me. Yeah, someone who's only played it a little 977 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,760 bit back in the day. I remember being very excited that Final Fantasy was 978 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:13,639 kind of going back to a more fun fantasy setting than what they had done 979 01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:15,360 with seven and eight. So at the very least, it always had a 980 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,840 great appeal to me that I was a super into and it knows it's a 981 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,199 good time and I mean that, but it also is it surprisingly somber and 982 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,639 touching in a really really nice ways. Uh. Just a good game, 983 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,440 very memorable game. Two thousand, things were still happening with the Dreamcast. 984 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,880 I like this game again, I want to. I can't remember if it 985 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,480 came out of the United States. Skis of Arcadia when I played a lot 986 01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:42,800 back then. I played a little bit more on the Gamecabe a few a 987 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,519 few years later. Which year did that come out? Thousand? I like 988 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:50,079 Scars of Arcadia a lot, But I'm you're the RPG guy. I'm kind 989 01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,400 of wondering what you're feeling is on it. Yeah, I actually have my 990 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,239 Gamekeay version. I haven't really played too much of it yet. It's funny 991 01:02:55,239 --> 01:02:59,960 because at the time my brother was playing Skis Arcadian, I was playing Ground 992 01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:01,559 Dat too, so I just never really played that much. Guys, o 993 01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:06,920 Kadia, But people do really love it. It's it's kind of hide it 994 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,199 on light to do list. I'm not gonna light now. I would be 995 01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:12,559 shocked if it's better than from fifty nine. If it's a matter of like 996 01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:16,480 picking a JRPG, I guess, but so sure worth the consideration here. 997 01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:23,000 Uh is okay? We know we said counterstrike last time for the mud, 998 01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:27,440 right, so we weren't going to count at this time. Yeah, yeah, 999 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,960 exactly, so probably not that. What about Uh, okay, this 1000 01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:36,920 is interesting. WWF No Mercy was that actually in two thousand I think I 1001 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:42,000 think it was seventeen two thousand. Is No Mercy kind that's that's I think 1002 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,800 most people agree that's the pinnacle these You were kind of more of a WCW 1003 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,119 guy, right, I was more of a WCW guy, But they kept 1004 01:03:46,119 --> 01:03:52,559 making them after WCW collapsed and because what we're gonna go work WWF and so 1005 01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,440 they kept getting better. Uh. The WWF games were better than WCW games 1006 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,280 because they were the WCW games with more and more well thought out and No 1007 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,039 Mercy is the best of those for sure, at least the best of the 1008 01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:05,400 ones that came out of the United States. It is. It's that's a 1009 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:10,159 very good game. I think it's almost almost good enough to go on this 1010 01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:12,000 list. I'm gonna put it on the short list for sure, Mike, 1011 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,239 Okay, yeah, I like it. I like it. Uh ready for 1012 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,239 another one? Yeah? Please? Pokemon Gold, Silver, I think even 1013 01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:23,320 Crystal are all kind of in that two thousand. This is the second gen 1014 01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:28,199 a lot pretty much better than the original gen in every way. Still really 1015 01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:30,760 similar, I guess, definitely not as impactful like our importantess first gen. 1016 01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:34,360 This is still Gen two. People still kind of talk about and hollowed hushed 1017 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:39,519 tones, it seems like, right, Yes, definitely. I never really 1018 01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:43,280 played gold and Silver, and I was looking and playing heart gold or sold 1019 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,639 Silver here in the last couple of years, but didn't get around to that. 1020 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,239 Is this one I just want to go on the short list? Or 1021 01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:54,239 do you think it's gonna be good enough to Okay, I think it's short 1022 01:04:54,239 --> 01:04:59,320 list, but yeah, definitely worth putting in the short list. I have 1023 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,639 another one, Yeah, go ahead, I have another one that I think 1024 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,119 is kind of a certain one for me on the list, But I want 1025 01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:06,719 to hear yours first. I want to hear yours first. I want to 1026 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:12,639 hear yours first. Okay, Vagrant Story, which a door, it's a 1027 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:17,719 it's a later PlayStation one game. It takes I guess check and see that 1028 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,440 was the United States in two thousand, two thousand. Yeah, yeah, 1029 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:26,599 uh, that's that. That is the best looking PlayStation game probably right, 1030 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,079 it is. It has and it's not just best in terms of like, 1031 01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:32,440 oh, graphical prowess, which it is, but also in terms of style 1032 01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:39,719 it is just astounding. It's got a really good combat system, really interesting 1033 01:05:39,719 --> 01:05:43,960 story, great music, just high production values across the board. Uh. 1034 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,920 And it's one of those ones where, like I mean, I'm I'm playing 1035 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,760 an RPG basically on and I'm really enjoying it. There's like sort of no 1036 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:55,039 caveats to that statement. I love Vagrant Story. Yeah, despite the limitations 1037 01:05:55,159 --> 01:05:59,199 of the PlayStation freaking one still does a lot of things better than any other 1038 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,400 game of its kind. Just kind of actually incredible what they were able to 1039 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:11,239 achieve. A Vagrant Story absolutely definitely like worth consideration. Probably maybe even on 1040 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,960 the list for sure. I have another one that's like I would like to 1041 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,320 see you on the list probably a bit, but maybe it doesn't make it. 1042 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,360 I don't know. Jeff, I want to take you for a ride 1043 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:29,159 because it's Marvelsus Capcom too. Yeah, Barb's you know. I love my 1044 01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:32,679 Dreamcast. I think marvels Is Cacon two was by far my most played Dreamcast 1045 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,719 game. This was the game that actually really got me to care more about 1046 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,639 two D fighting games in a way that I thought I was kind of actually 1047 01:06:40,639 --> 01:06:43,480 done with that. Like I had not played I did not play Third Strike 1048 01:06:43,559 --> 01:06:46,480 back then, or the Alpha series or the other Versus games. I really 1049 01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:49,639 was this full on. I only care about stuff like Virtual Fighter and so 1050 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,320 Caliber and the first Barbaras Capcom like got me in a bit. Then Mars's 1051 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,800 Cacon two with just that giant roster, and it was just so much fun 1052 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,679 unlocking characters and seeing who the heck was in there, just even just playing 1053 01:07:01,679 --> 01:07:05,000 that game in arcade mode and trying to go through the whole thing and fight 1054 01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:09,679 that what onslaught whoever it was at the end, and then use those points 1055 01:07:09,679 --> 01:07:13,440 to unlock more characters or colors or whatever. It was just so satisfying. 1056 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,559 But then me and my brothers would play each other all the time or friends. 1057 01:07:16,639 --> 01:07:19,599 It was so much fun. I remember like we went to an Arcade 1058 01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:23,800 in Disney World once and they had an arcade cabinet and we were like actually 1059 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,760 able to play it against people in do okay because we had the Dreamcast. 1060 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,800 It was it was such a good Portlands Dreamcast. That game felt so amazing 1061 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,639 on their h gosh, yeah, just character the best characters select screen by 1062 01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:41,119 the way, discourageous, so so much beautiful art, a lot of style 1063 01:07:41,159 --> 01:07:45,159 on that screen. Yeah, I like that a lot. And reverse capcom 1064 01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:45,920 two is when I have a lot of fun with my friends us. He 1065 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,440 had the Dreamcast, so we'd spent a lot of time there and we played 1066 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:55,159 that. Yeah, this one I could easily see making the list. I'm 1067 01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:57,280 gonna keep it at the top of the shortlist for now, Mike, but 1068 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,320 sure, I'm also going to leave that five spot open. I think going 1069 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:08,440 forward, I'm gonna float uh Fantasy Star Online. M I did like Fancy 1070 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,840 Star Online a lot at the time. Uh, I enjoyed, would have 1071 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,480 played a bit, and I didn't play a ton at the time, So 1072 01:08:13,519 --> 01:08:16,000 it's kind of throwing it out there, Okay, two thousand and one January 1073 01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:18,920 for al right, cool, all right, great to shock him to me, 1074 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,520 man, Yes, yeah, God, that system burned bright and fast. 1075 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,520 Yes it did, Yes, very fast. Shin move You're not a 1076 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,920 shin move guy? Was that? Man, that's what we talked about last 1077 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,119 year. I'll before mad at us. That's always so weird to me. 1078 01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:34,600 The people are still like, no, shen move is great. Like I'm 1079 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,720 not even saying she moves bad. But I'm surprised people are still passionate about 1080 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,720 Yeah, they are, though they definitely all right, and that's fine. 1081 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,600 It's definitely not for me. Banjo Tooie just not as good as Banjo Kazooi. 1082 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,880 It's two. They learned the wrong lessons from Banjo Kazooi. They went 1083 01:08:54,119 --> 01:08:57,479 huge levels that were not as fun. Here's a game that I haven't played. 1084 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,000 I wish I did. It's like a talk of consider but people really 1085 01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:04,199 like No One Lists forever. I hope that game gets a remastered someday. 1086 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,479 That would be one. I think that's when that might have had some like 1087 01:09:09,039 --> 01:09:12,439 rights issues, but I also think they I thought they got solved. So 1088 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,399 man, it would be great if night Dot could do that one. That 1089 01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:16,920 would be fantastic. Oh this is okay, this is not going to make 1090 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:21,560 it. This a personal favorite. Star Trek Voyager Elite Force, Like that's 1091 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,800 that's my favorite, you know how Like Dark Force is the best of all 1092 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:29,439 the Doom clones, Elite Force is the best of all of Like the Quake 1093 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,960 three Engine game, I don't know even call it. I think it was 1094 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,640 that might have been an unreal sort I don't know, but of that era 1095 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:41,479 like that circa two thousand PC shooter. I love Star Trek Voyager Elite Force, 1096 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,960 but AFFI fund game, I'll do mine. That is that same thing 1097 01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:48,399 Excite like sixty four let's close out the trilogy of the great and sixty four 1098 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:55,319 extreme sports games. Uh, this is back when they were still figuring out 1099 01:09:55,319 --> 01:09:57,880 three D gaming. So it's impressive that they got it right right out of 1100 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,000 the gate. That's been that was true for Wave Race, true for two 1101 01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:02,920 eighties. It's also been true for Excite Bike. And then it was also 1102 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,239 there like we can let's we're working in three D. It could be realistic 1103 01:10:06,279 --> 01:10:11,920 and that means let's be like true to real life and really or exaggerate real 1104 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,239 life physics. But that's what's fun is how the bike interacts with the with 1105 01:10:15,279 --> 01:10:17,479 the ground and stuff like that. And uh, they took that to an 1106 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,479 extreme and that people are gonna play that game and be like this is there's 1107 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:25,039 a lot going on here, because there is, and it's uh, it's 1108 01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:28,720 super impressive that again, this is the first three D system from Nintendo and 1109 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,319 this is what they're making with their three D games, and it blew me 1110 01:10:31,319 --> 01:10:33,840 away at the time, and it still holds up to this day. It's 1111 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:38,640 just yeah, it's it's it's it's Excite Bike sixty four. It's not going 1112 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,640 to play, yeah, kind of like at a similar end of like, 1113 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,119 I really like jet Set Radio back then, and you know, I know 1114 01:10:44,279 --> 01:10:46,039 you usually said how it like you didn't quite drive with it, which I 1115 01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:48,720 can understand because I have the same thing at first where I was like, 1116 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,960 oh, this is gonna be like a Tony Hawk, and it's not. 1117 01:10:51,159 --> 01:10:55,800 It's definitely a game on its own terms, but so much style, very 1118 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,520 early uh celciading at a time where like that was kind of like the whole 1119 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,159 marketing bullet point for it was the cell shameing. And it still looks really 1120 01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:06,039 cool, really fun game. I might like Chet Set Radio Future even more, 1121 01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:09,920 which is on the Rizon. Oh shit, I Katana has two thousand. 1122 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:15,560 What's fucking dao? Sex is two thousand. Oh man, that's that's 1123 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,840 rough, because like I like Dato sex, but I came to it late 1124 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:23,039 and I didn't love data sex. I have just never really quite made it 1125 01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:26,000 yet. I always keep planning to go play day sex. At the time, 1126 01:11:26,039 --> 01:11:28,720 it was beyond me as the problem. It was a bit much for 1127 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,199 me. I just haven't really gone back. So I feel bad because I 1128 01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:33,600 think a lot of people would put Dax on their list. Do you know 1129 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,840 why I played it? No? Because I was on an episode of The 1130 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:42,119 Squadron of Shame nice and we were talking about that game incredible. I wonder 1131 01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:44,279 why I because I was pretty good keeping up with the Squadron Shame. I 1132 01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:46,920 think I did try start playing it for that and then just didn't quite make 1133 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,359 it. That's why I played a Silent Hill two back in the day. 1134 01:11:49,359 --> 01:11:51,880 It was because of the Squadron of Shame. I remember. I remember playing 1135 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:57,560 it at the time saying, it's like it felt very like Try Hard h 1136 01:11:58,199 --> 01:12:00,840 inspired by Matrix in a lot of ways in terms of style, and I 1137 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,920 think that's still through but that's actually kind of charming these days. Yeah, 1138 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,319 that would like that kind of stuff now, I really like that, so 1139 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:11,399 yeah, exactly, whatever. But yeah, Davio sex is one that I 1140 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,079 like, I don't love. Yeah, no, that's fair. There's some 1141 01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:17,359 yeah, there's there's some other weird, interesting games on here. But maybe 1142 01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:20,439 it's time we see what our community has to say. They'll pick up on 1143 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:25,680 some of the ones we haven't talked about yet, like you're like see two 1144 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,479 and Riley and three. Who knows? Yes, give me a second, 1145 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:35,720 Veronica going crazy, I Swindo. I tried playing uswen Dale two once and 1146 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:41,239 I was very confused. Today, maybe I can manage it all right, 1147 01:12:41,319 --> 01:12:45,000 let me see, I got the podcast stuff here. There we go. 1148 01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:51,000 Okay, let's see from our community. The Bop Rush Cyberfunk says, the 1149 01:12:51,039 --> 01:12:56,920 Pokey Bros Are back to bully you into picking gold and silver. It's on 1150 01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:01,279 the shortlist. We can't promise anything else. Cranch Basketball says Marvel versus Capcom 1151 01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:05,359 two on Dreamcasts, and he says Majori's Mask is a terrible video game. 1152 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,560 Terrible, Yeah, terrible, A bit bit much. Jackie G says, 1153 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,520 I know how you guys feel about Major's Mask masks, so I'm prepared for 1154 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,960 heartbreak. That being said, it's my favorite piece of media to ever. 1155 01:13:17,039 --> 01:13:20,199 Grace my life. I love that game. It is oppressive, like the 1156 01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:25,640 people who like Majora's Mask really like Majory's Mess, and I do respect that 1157 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,039 exactly. I like that there are people out there whose favorite thing in the 1158 01:13:29,079 --> 01:13:30,880 world is Major's Mask, and we got one of them right here in our 1159 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,279 discord. I really do, actually like people who defend Princess would never defend 1160 01:13:35,279 --> 01:13:39,960 it as passionately as the Major's Mask defenders exactly, and I don't believe them 1161 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,359 as much as I believe the Major's defenders. Yes, agreed, Twilight Princess. 1162 01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:48,399 All right, Chuck nineteen, Yes, definitely going to really hope you 1163 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:53,760 all watch that nur Nural video. And even if you don't prefer to play 1164 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,359 the INN sixty four version of the Major's Mask, you know how unique and 1165 01:13:57,399 --> 01:14:00,520 special it is. I know it's unique and special. Definitely not watched that 1166 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,039 video, but I'm going to you got me pick my favor sounds fun? 1167 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:09,119 Uh Sam's name said, w WF no Mercy. I'm thirty six now, 1168 01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:13,279 good Godwin did that happen? And also, I'm quite sure this game is 1169 01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:15,600 still my most played game ever. The four player matchss I had with my 1170 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,279 cousins will forever be some of my best gaming memories. Uh Jet Jet Binks 1171 01:14:20,279 --> 01:14:26,000 says, Oh sweet, we are at my birth years. Let's go with 1172 01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:30,680 the sims. Yakuza Wolf five says the start of the new millennium begins with 1173 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,079 another mediocre year for games. Spiro Year of the Dragon is my pick, 1174 01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:39,600 probably going to be ignored again because Mike hates Spiro. Fi doesn't hate Spiro. 1175 01:14:40,119 --> 01:14:42,960 I don't Spiro. It's a series of very good eight out of ten 1176 01:14:43,119 --> 01:14:45,880 range games that aren't going to be Buck's the top five for any They weren't 1177 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,840 even trying to be beyond eight out of ten games. They were so happy 1178 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,279 to be eight out of tens. They were the best eight outs and they're 1179 01:14:51,359 --> 01:14:57,399 very good games. Yes, Eden says Video games from Hell. Diablo two 1180 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,000 is my pick, an honorable mention to counter Strike one point six. I 1181 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,880 think we consider Counterclass is a real kind of fuzzy because it's constrict one point 1182 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:11,159 six and for a lot of people is Counterstrike. But yeah, Razzled, 1183 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:14,479 Jazzled. A few well received RPGs came out this year, but among worthy 1184 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:19,800 Contender's final Fantasy nine stands out obviously. Nine. Evo ganisis perfect dark which 1185 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:24,119 is a game I really like, I really do. I think that's I 1186 01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:27,239 hold it in a higher regard than Golden I as a better game. But 1187 01:15:27,279 --> 01:15:30,239 I had more fun playing Golden Eye because more of my friends were playing at 1188 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,039 that time. I won't tell you what I think about Perfect Dark. I 1189 01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:35,279 get you know, I already laid it on thick enough with poor Golden I 1190 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:40,119 over there. Yeah, and I definitely yes, I get it. It's 1191 01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:43,920 basically the same, but Perfect Dark multiplayer options were a state of the art 1192 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,800 at the time. It was really cool. From Benji Majorre's mask, he 1193 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,239 says, my all time favorite game until Breath of the Wild and Tears of 1194 01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:55,239 the Kingdom. Casual, says Zeus. Master of Olympus is one of my 1195 01:15:55,279 --> 01:15:59,119 all time favorite games. City building paired with Greek mythology. This gym plays 1196 01:15:59,159 --> 01:16:00,960 like a dream man. This is a good cover. Oar. I kind 1197 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,520 of want to go back and play this. I never even heard of it. 1198 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,439 Yeah, was it? I forget. I don't forget. It's the 1199 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:10,079 same company, but they're like remade Cleopatcher or whatever. Like the Egyptian version 1200 01:16:10,079 --> 01:16:13,439 of this is basically I'm not sure, but god, that was I think 1201 01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,199 it's his Inventions Company and something whatever that is down there. I can't read 1202 01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:21,039 it. Joy You says, since Major's Mask won't get the appreciation it deserves, 1203 01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:27,760 I want to shout out the Longest Journey. I never I remember that 1204 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,640 game vaguely and may basically everybody. I remember all the Lucas starts people who 1205 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,079 are despairing at the time because the writing was on the wall. We did 1206 01:16:34,079 --> 01:16:36,720 get Escape from MONKEYO in this year, which is okay. A lot of 1207 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:41,159 people are saying Longest Journey was very good. I never actually quite got to 1208 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:45,039 it, but the people do like it. Boomer of the Wild said, 1209 01:16:45,079 --> 01:16:47,840 Oh, let's freaking go two thousand, the year of the will Limnium. 1210 01:16:48,319 --> 01:16:51,239 Why two k in the best game of the of that year, jet Set 1211 01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:57,399 Radio. This should be on everyone's list, just for the style alone style, 1212 01:16:58,359 --> 01:17:00,359 Jamie H. Christmas Eve says Tony expres Skater two came out when I 1213 01:17:00,399 --> 01:17:04,199 was ten years old and at one percent shape both my music taste and my 1214 01:17:04,279 --> 01:17:09,560 fashion choices in my teenage years. Honorable mentioned to ghost Babble, Oh yeah, 1215 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,680 it's a good that's a good game, Chaos Buckaroo, Pokemon's Gold and 1216 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,960 Silver. Yeah, you'll point out plenty of issues, but the game is 1217 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,039 still great despite them. Duck Sau says, deus X. Beef Hammer says 1218 01:17:19,079 --> 01:17:23,039 Majora's mask is going to get the love it deserves because you boys are going 1219 01:17:23,079 --> 01:17:25,680 to put it up there, and there's a lot of them, a lot 1220 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:30,199 of people going to bath for Major's mask in our discord geez Yep, including 1221 01:17:30,199 --> 01:17:33,439 Matt Rare Monkey who put Matrior's mask at the top, and then he includes 1222 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:38,159 Tony Expres, Skater two, d Sex, Diablo two and No One Lives 1223 01:17:38,199 --> 01:17:43,760 Forever Crouching Boomer Hidden Zoomer says, Warrior Land threes, Metroid Venia elements make 1224 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,720 backtracking in levels a lot of fun game. I played it for the first 1225 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,600 time last year. It was a very good I like to look bench JC 1226 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,640 says Final Fantasy nine one of the best games of all time. Tokyo Game 1227 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,960 Life mentions Pokemon gold and silver in the tops top five. It's proof that 1228 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,000 the last Ember of Joy has left your souls if you don't include it. 1229 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,199 Vision forty nine says, listen up, you philistines. You got two of 1230 01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:09,760 the best immersive sims maybe ever. Coming to two thousand, Thief to the 1231 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,000 Middle Age is the best in the series, and Dao Sex is the best 1232 01:18:13,039 --> 01:18:15,439 thing to come out of ion Storm. I think a nacromox is the best 1233 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,920 thing to come out of ion Storm. But you know, Potatoes Doctos says, 1234 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:24,119 Hey, Mike, you're gonna get that classic Escape from Monkey Island on 1235 01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:28,159 the list, right, No, shure, I'm not, mister Bullers says 1236 01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:30,600 my main two selections are Pokemon Gold and Silver, and the Sims both should 1237 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,840 be on this top five easy. I can't. I've I've played a lot 1238 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:39,159 of the Sims at the time. It just hasn't stuck with me. Super 1239 01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:41,840 Harman. Not sure where you guys are on it, but boys, Dao 1240 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,840 Sex both incredible and highly influential. Yeah, I think it's the one I'm 1241 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,640 going to feel the worst about. Yeah, stronger opinion on to be honest, 1242 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,600 but always be clothing slash cord, He says, So here, I 1243 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:56,840 am doing everything I can holding onto one. Am pretending that I'm a Superman, 1244 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,880 and they says tone exprestkater two. But I'm pretty sure Superman was to 1245 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,479 experts skatter one right, I'm not sure. Yeah, screaming Madden says, 1246 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,720 in that field, feel the power, Yeah, Mike, what is he 1247 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,199 doing here? I think you're hitting is the ground in the Showers playbook? 1248 01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:16,279 Fool of techniques I'm playing for? Okay, Madden is a maddened thing. 1249 01:19:16,359 --> 01:19:20,119 I'm like, no idea. Those are all lyrics from the Madden specific rap 1250 01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:25,800 the mad in the game by exhibit for Madden NFL two. That's why I 1251 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,039 was worried I was gonna lose my nerd card, like this was some Tony 1252 01:19:28,039 --> 01:19:30,720 Hawks song I forgot or something. I'm so relieved, which actually should be 1253 01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:34,359 considered because that on PS two ushered in the best era of Madden. But 1254 01:19:34,399 --> 01:19:39,119 if not, please consider Warrior Land three. I think I will consider that. 1255 01:19:40,039 --> 01:19:43,880 Yeah, Madden NFL at this point was actually very good. NFL two 1256 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,359 K was actually pretty good this time too. Shoji Koto says, amazing year 1257 01:19:46,359 --> 01:19:50,560 for extreme sports games, Tony Hawks, Sports Skater two SSX, Dave Mira 1258 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:57,279 Freestyle BMX. Yeah, those are all very good games of the s SSX 1259 01:19:57,319 --> 01:19:59,479 games. I think I like Tricky the best. I can't remember which one's 1260 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,199 the best, but you're tricky, I think. Yeah. Hosp says Pokemon 1261 01:20:03,239 --> 01:20:08,159 gold and silver, if for nothing else that that than the shiny red gear 1262 01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:14,680 Audos I can never say that name. Garrodos Flobotron says, Vampire the Masquerade 1263 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,720 Redemption a vampire raput you with a several hundred year time jump in the story. 1264 01:20:18,039 --> 01:20:20,560 First year character looks like a crusader with a great sword, and then 1265 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:25,640 suddenly he's an edge lord with a mini gun. Yeah sounds very cool. 1266 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,560 You know, care about this guy? I never played this game? Did 1267 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,920 this ever get a remaster? I think they were, didn't They say a 1268 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:36,119 lot of things. Yeah, that has happened very well, but uh yeah, 1269 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:40,680 Lenny cool. Dick Denver says, I'll give you a shout out to 1270 01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,199 Command and Conquer Red Alert, to a game that I still dip into now 1271 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,319 and still has an online player base. I think it's my favorite RTS campaign 1272 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:53,039 ever. Ray says multiple important games already mentioned. Do Sex would top my 1273 01:20:53,119 --> 01:20:57,119 list, but the SIMS was also incredibly good, and we didn't have micro 1274 01:20:57,199 --> 01:21:03,479 transactions yet. He also mentioned Diablo two and counter Strikehignts forty two says Pokemon 1275 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:08,960 Golden Silver Slain says the first paper Mario came out this year, though technically 1276 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,600 the thousand year Door might be better, the original will always have a soft 1277 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,000 spot in my heart. You did you she Paper Mario t t YG sixty 1278 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,720 four. It's Paper Mario one, but with a lot of the features like 1279 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:24,000 badges from from Papers in your Door. It's a fan fan mode. Obviously, 1280 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,840 I'm like, I might want to play that. I Paper Mario is 1281 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,720 a good game. I had a hard time really loving it because I was 1282 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,359 so stupidly bitter about it not being Yo RPG two even the like gameplay wise 1283 01:21:33,399 --> 01:21:36,079 it so is, but basically I was upset that Gino and Matt lowerren in 1284 01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:40,319 it. Yep, yeah, I felt pretty similar. Although five thousand year 1285 01:21:40,359 --> 01:21:44,159 Door I was over that and just really really liked that game. Rock Party 1286 01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:46,920 says Diablo two. Giggee sixty four says Jeff and Mike. Please give me 1287 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,239 this one release for North America in the year two thousand for PS one, 1288 01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:54,680 Front Mission three still stands out as one of the best turn based strategy met 1289 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,960 games. And if it doesn't make the list at least, let me hear 1290 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,760 you, guys, say Wanzer on the show. Answer, this is the 1291 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,399 first one I think we got here, and I know, even according to 1292 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:06,199 the Front Mission fans, is like the first really good one I would play 1293 01:22:06,279 --> 01:22:12,479 a turn based strategy met game. Uh you had, I thought, isn't 1294 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,279 that basically that into the breach you love? Yes, it is example into 1295 01:22:15,279 --> 01:22:18,680 the breach. Fucking good. Uh. Doctor Ryan says it always gets forgotten. 1296 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,920 But the hidden gem of two thousand and a game that deserves to be 1297 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:25,680 on the list is no One Less Forever. Sasquatchings by, I think he 1298 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,479 missed a breadfish, said paper Mario. Just don't want to breadfish to be 1299 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,800 forgotten. Whoop okay, yes, same, thank you breadfish. Uh, 1300 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:35,720 sasquatch you says Commanded conquer Redlaer two. Teryak Blues says, I'd seriously consider 1301 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,000 Madden. The jump from PS one to PS two felt insane at the time. 1302 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:45,880 So many RTS fans in the discorp Commanded conquer fans specifically. I think 1303 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,399 I was just in a weird bubble. I didn't realize Command Conqueror was that 1304 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,800 well like can Commandic Concker was very good at this plan America Dragon ninety eight 1305 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:58,119 says. Skies of Arcadia. Sarapus Kain says Diablo two. Wong Gifts says, 1306 01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,079 played threads of Fade to coneths ago, I want to play this game 1307 01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:05,399 so badly. This is like a weird action RPG from Squareness at the time. 1308 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,800 That's something of a hidden gem I've been hearing. I've been seeing like 1309 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,560 a lot of videos about this game recently. I really want to play Threads 1310 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,920 of Fit. You have two different characters to play as, and like the 1311 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,840 girl is like the worst person ever in a really funny way. Yeah, 1312 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,840 I think this would be a good play through. DMC depressed me crying this 1313 01:23:23,079 --> 01:23:27,560 spiral Year of the Dragon and Kirby sixty four Crystal Shards Kirby sixty four mid 1314 01:23:28,279 --> 01:23:31,600 Yeah, I mean it's fine. Nick Turbo says, hope you are having 1315 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:38,000 a pilelicious three hundred and fourteenth episode my Dogs. Okay, yeah, episode 1316 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,640 Pie. I know the levels are sometimes too big, and you two are 1317 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,399 apparent Banjo haters, but I love Banjo Kazooi. Banjo Twi continues in two 1318 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,159 in its predecessor as one of the best filling three D platformers ever made. 1319 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,119 I don't hate Banjo twey, I just do not like it as much as 1320 01:23:51,119 --> 01:23:54,640 Banjo. Yeah, and look, you know he's mad because we didn't get 1321 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,239 Banjo Kazooi in the list for it's year. And I feel a little bad 1322 01:23:57,239 --> 01:24:00,640 about that. But it's rough, wasn't it? Night ninety eight was this 1323 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,920 year? So what are you gonna do? It's hard there for banjo? 1324 01:24:03,119 --> 01:24:05,520 All right, I'm going back to Sasquatching Citism in the chat. I never 1325 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:10,560 read his extra stuff and he does say also shout out to sacrifice and Giants 1326 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:17,399 Citizen Kabudo. Citizen k Yeah. I still remember to this day. I've 1327 01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,359 never played Giants Citizen Kabuto and I've always wanted to. That's an underrated game. 1328 01:24:21,399 --> 01:24:25,680 That's a weird goofy game. That was like the first game I remember 1329 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,880 where like you're just playing a third person action so a shooter game, and 1330 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,439 then all of a sudden surprise. It's kind of an RTS brutal legend did 1331 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,680 the same thing later? Think even that Minecraft game did it recently? Like? 1332 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:41,319 Uh yeah, Giant Citizen Kabudo. My brother AJ really liked that game. 1333 01:24:41,359 --> 01:24:43,760 I used to watch him play a lot as a silly, silly game. 1334 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:45,720 Uh that that one? Where did it come out at? Was that 1335 01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:50,560 PC? A PC? Okay, okay, that's a PC joint? What 1336 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,600 am I? What is the one I'm thinking of? That is was on 1337 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:59,800 sixty four D d uh oh you're thinking about the giant, the Giant, 1338 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,239 do you think of something else? Yes? Okay, all right, So 1339 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,920 I remember the name A Giant says in Kubudo, but I never I guess 1340 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,199 I never really knew what it was. Corley Poo. If counting hours back 1341 01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:12,439 then was more popular, I'd probably have several thousand hours in Command and Conquer 1342 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,119 Retol Art two. If it wasn't for its sequel, I would It would 1343 01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:17,560 probably be my candidate for the greatest RTS of all time. But the best 1344 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,640 game of two thousand is Majori's Mask. Isaac Clark says Final Fantasy nine. 1345 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:29,800 Edwards says, vagrant story, Here we go. I d Kevin says the 1346 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,319 sims, but also shout out to Bomber sixty Bomberman sixty four, the Second 1347 01:25:32,359 --> 01:25:39,000 Attack, and Harvest Moon Back to the nature. Christian says King of Fighters 1348 01:25:39,039 --> 01:25:42,640 two thousand, just because it gave us the coolest character ever, Vanessa. 1349 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,000 Yeah, I see why he liked this character. Yeah, Vanessa also looks 1350 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:53,640 pretty. Those are some good Edgar Marino says Major's mask is the goat Turbo 1351 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,720 Shawn. So what if MegaMan legends but with modern day duel analog patrols way 1352 01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,000 before those were commonplace. MegaMan Legends two. Okay, Man, I played 1353 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,600 back with Legends when recently and really liked it. I do need to finally 1354 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:10,199 play Legends too at some point. Man. There's a lot of people are 1355 01:26:10,319 --> 01:26:13,479 discord who carry a giant torch for George Mask. I mean, we honestly 1356 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,079 have a lot of Nintendo people in here, so that's not too shocking. 1357 01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:18,520 But I well, I'm probably put I would put George's Mask at five. 1358 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:24,319 I like that a lot. I would if it didn't mean but Barbow's cap 1359 01:26:24,399 --> 01:26:29,840 on two getting gone there. That's my problem with that. I don't know. 1360 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,680 I guess I I don't want to be frumpy, but yeah, I'm 1361 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:39,159 a little I don't quite see but George's Mask being that important. I don't 1362 01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:42,239 know. I like but George Mask and I get it. Uh, It's 1363 01:26:42,399 --> 01:26:44,159 it's not that high for me. But if it's for me, Jeff, 1364 01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:45,199 if you feel that strongly about it, it's it's I mean, it's a 1365 01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:48,520 it's a top ten of the game of the year for me. I do. 1366 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,439 I do struggle to put it in the top five. It's just because 1367 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,560 like I, like I said, I haven't had the urge to go back 1368 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,159 and play it. Ever, and and even when I tried the three D 1369 01:26:57,239 --> 01:27:00,000 S version when it came out, I fell off it. I don't know. 1370 01:27:00,199 --> 01:27:02,119 I think that's time I ever beat it. And I think I would 1371 01:27:02,119 --> 01:27:04,479 just be putting up there to make people happy, and I don't want to 1372 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:09,760 do that, all right, We're not pandering. Yeah, So for audio 1373 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:14,039 listeners, the list right now that we have this is mostly un ordered. 1374 01:27:14,039 --> 01:27:16,920 We'll talk about that in a second, but the seeming locks and this is 1375 01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,600 always up for discussion. Tony Hawk's pro Skater to Diablo to Final Fantasy nine, 1376 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:26,520 Vagrant Story, and then in the shortlist Marvel Verse Capcom to WWF No 1377 01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,359 Mercy, Major's Mask, Pokemon Gold and Silver, Excite by sixty four, 1378 01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:36,119 and jet Set Radio. Yeah. I mean, I definitely see it being 1379 01:27:36,159 --> 01:27:42,119 between Mars's Capcom two and Majorge's Mask, with DSX being the one I feel 1380 01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:46,359 the worst about not having a stronger opinion, specially shout out to shout out 1381 01:27:46,359 --> 01:27:51,520 to No Mercy. Yeah, Mike, I'm okay with Marvel Verse Capcom two 1382 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,279 going up there, because, like I said, Major's Mask is not the 1383 01:27:55,319 --> 01:27:58,000 one I hold a torch for, Okay, and I you know, not, 1384 01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,560 Bet this list needs to be all my favorite rits, and I want 1385 01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,560 to specify it's not. It's not I'm coming at me. I got I 1386 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,640 mean a Tony X First Cater two, especially it's number one, and then 1387 01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:11,359 a Vagrant story up there. I'm good. Yeah, but I do care 1388 01:28:11,399 --> 01:28:14,239 about Marvel's Scotcom two, and I like Marvel versus Capcom two a lot, 1389 01:28:14,399 --> 01:28:17,640 a lot, very much a lot. Uh oh man, Yes, John, 1390 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,800 I was right. So it's gonna be our first Nintendo Free list. 1391 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,600 Yeah, it might be because that's how sixty four is so mid. I'm 1392 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,600 not shocked that in the it's height, I mean excited by sixty four actually 1393 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,960 is better than anything up there except for Tony OX Firstka two. But yeah, 1394 01:28:32,039 --> 01:28:35,479 it's uh what's over a lot? I mean Majority's mask is and also 1395 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:39,960 I like perfect Actually, yeah, there's plenty of good games. Mario Tennis 1396 01:28:40,039 --> 01:28:42,680 is is this year that Marrio Tennis is a great game. I would also 1397 01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,800 take that over almost anything on this list, but yeah, hyper Mario. 1398 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:50,880 Sure, Okay, So Mike, I think this is the five Tony X 1399 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,479 First Skater two, Diablo two, Final Fantasy nine, Vagrant Story, and 1400 01:28:54,520 --> 01:29:00,399 Marvel versus Capcom two. You know, I put like like I would put 1401 01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,479 the Albo pomp is the Amoros's Captain over Tonya two. But if you feel 1402 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,680 super strongly about that, I'm not gonna say it again. I would like 1403 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:11,119 to two would be more like four for me. Uh yeah, but like 1404 01:29:11,279 --> 01:29:13,600 you know, you feel really strongly about it, and I do you know? 1405 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:17,760 That's fine? I don't care. Let me see uh you okay, 1406 01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:23,760 yeah, yeah, I don't know. I I think Tony's first skater two, 1407 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,199 it's at least number two, I think. So what would you put 1408 01:29:28,199 --> 01:29:33,039 at number one? Uh? Probably the Apbo two, To be honest, 1409 01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:39,600 I think I'm okay with that actually, because that Diabo two is is it's 1410 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,000 kind of the height of like, well not really, but this is the 1411 01:29:42,039 --> 01:29:47,079 midst of unbeatable Blizzard, of Blizzard being just like hit important game maker at 1412 01:29:47,079 --> 01:29:53,439 their hit important game. Okay, chat is given me power. They're spirit 1413 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,840 bombing me for Tony ox at number one. Sorry, Mike, we're keeping 1414 01:29:55,880 --> 01:30:00,800 to number one. It's okay, Diablo two strong number tw Honestly, it's 1415 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,479 almost it's one A, one one B. But it's uh Stock's frost Skater 1416 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,359 two at number one, Diablo two at number two, Final Fantasy nine, 1417 01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:11,720 Vagrant Story at number four, and Marvel versus Capcom two at number five. 1418 01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:16,399 Do you want to make any changes now to that, to that ordering for 1419 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,399 Vigor, I'm okay. If that's at number five, I honestly give me, 1420 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,920 give me that, give me Marv's kuck On two at four, then 1421 01:30:23,079 --> 01:30:27,359 okay, yeah, deal, I could do that. Let's go there, 1422 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,720 and then yeah, I do like my Marvel vers just cap come quite a 1423 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,079 bit. It's Marvel time, baby. Oh yeah, that's so Pringles. 1424 01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:40,199 Well, you're Cody mustache At. I love it, all right. You 1425 01:30:40,279 --> 01:30:45,439 know that something is culturally irrelevant when even Mike knows the Yipes commentary. Ypes 1426 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,960 was when I could when I told him that was crazy, all right, 1427 01:30:49,079 --> 01:30:53,640 gave it the year two thousand starting number five, Vagrant Story, the number 1428 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:57,279 four is Marvel versus Capcom two, number three, Final Fantasy nine, number 1429 01:30:57,319 --> 01:31:00,199 two, Diablo two, and number one Tony Hawk's pro Skater too. That's 1430 01:31:00,359 --> 01:31:03,399 a very good list. So here, Michael, I'm curious now because I 1431 01:31:03,399 --> 01:31:08,239 think everyone was number one for nineteen and nine, and I wonder if Tonycare 1432 01:31:08,279 --> 01:31:10,720 three is gonna be number one for two thousand and one, because it's a 1433 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,800 distinct possibility. It is definitely a pot I mean, Tony's first Scare of 1434 01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,720 three is that good? But like two thousand and one, also, I 1435 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,000 feel like it was a good year, but I could I could be missing. 1436 01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:23,920 Well that's we're getting playsation. Uh two guys really getting on. Might 1437 01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:28,880 have metal saw it too, uh facy ten maybe even so, Yeah, 1438 01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,800 it's gonna be a busy year. All right, let me uh you know, 1439 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,560 actually two years where Keendom Hearts comes out. So that's not gonna be 1440 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:41,159 a problem. I'm gonna make it a problem. Boy. All Right, 1441 01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:43,600 we're gonna take another quick break. When we get back, we're gonna talk 1442 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,119 about the games we've been playing. We'll be back after this. All right, 1443 01:31:46,319 --> 01:31:49,680 we're back. Thanks for sticking with us, everybody. Mike, I've 1444 01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:53,079 been playing a lot of games we can't talk about still, Sorry about that, 1445 01:31:53,119 --> 01:31:55,920 everybody. Well that'll change soon. But I you know, I've been 1446 01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,399 playing a few other things, but mostly I'm interested in what are you been 1447 01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,159 spending your time with? Yeah, I reviewed Armored Cores six The Fires of 1448 01:32:01,399 --> 01:32:05,840 Ruba Khan. Uh. Yeah, so I was able to play through that 1449 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:11,239 whole campaign and publish my review for the embargo, I gave at four point 1450 01:32:11,359 --> 01:32:15,279 five out of five, which means that I really liked it. Jeff really 1451 01:32:15,359 --> 01:32:16,359 liked it quite a lot. This is I think, like a lot of 1452 01:32:16,399 --> 01:32:19,920 people, I did not have much experience of armored cores going in. I 1453 01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:24,560 had some idea of what I was getting into. I played other mech adjacent 1454 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,760 games. I played Damon x Mockina for the Switch. Remember that game, 1455 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:34,159 Yes, I do, well, it's fun ugliest sin this game not ugly, 1456 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:39,319 very very pretty game. And uh I know Out and Ring was rough 1457 01:32:39,359 --> 01:32:43,279 on PC, especially at launch. This game work runs really well, at 1458 01:32:43,359 --> 01:32:46,239 least on my PC of my thirty seventy t I system looked really good. 1459 01:32:47,319 --> 01:32:53,000 Just even like the art, like the robots obviously looked great. Excuse me, 1460 01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:59,479 uh like I love the whole snowy, kind of desolate, industrial abandoned 1461 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,279 vibe. I think it's just because of FOMP. Fantasy six taught me to 1462 01:33:01,359 --> 01:33:08,319 associate Max with snow so strongly, right, So like that just works really 1463 01:33:08,359 --> 01:33:10,680 well for me. But you know, it is just like a fun gameplay 1464 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:15,960 loop of starting with like this simple mech, so the customizing it, doing 1465 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,159 missions, getting money, unlocking more options. It is like, you know, 1466 01:33:19,279 --> 01:33:20,800 at first, I was like, okay, so you have all this 1467 01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:26,159 freedom so that you can play however you want to. It's not necessarily that 1468 01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:29,159 maybe you're very good, but you know, for me, somebody newer to 1469 01:33:29,239 --> 01:33:32,560 this, it is very much okay, I actually do need to like think 1470 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,520 about the mission a little bit and maybe change my load out based on that, 1471 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:40,079 or maybe a couple of times. One big time there was a pretty 1472 01:33:40,079 --> 01:33:43,600 big difficulty spike kind of towards the end of chapter one was this big boss 1473 01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,760 fight. It was one time I just straight up I had to quit the 1474 01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,159 mission, go back and grind some older missions to get more money, and 1475 01:33:48,279 --> 01:33:53,439 just completely upgrade and change my load out because I just wasn't getting anywhere with 1476 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,279 me. You're not the only one who's had that experience, it seems like 1477 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,279 right, and you know, it's like, you know, pay from software 1478 01:33:59,319 --> 01:34:01,560 difficulties like that's not exactly a surprising thing, but you know what, it 1479 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,039 is also kind of fun to start thinking about that stuff, like, Okay, 1480 01:34:05,079 --> 01:34:10,239 well, this mission is going through have a really slow lumbering boss fight, 1481 01:34:10,279 --> 01:34:14,239 So it's okay if I have like my grenade launchers that are really powerful, 1482 01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,319 but they are they fire pretty slowly, have us, you know, 1483 01:34:16,399 --> 01:34:20,720 and they you know, maybe airborne airborne targets very well, right, stuff 1484 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,399 like that. But you know, and you do kind of find stuff that 1485 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,960 is that works generally pretty well. Like I generally settled on a pretty heavy 1486 01:34:29,079 --> 01:34:30,960 mech, like not one with like the actual like tank treads, but a 1487 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,920 pretty heavy mech that had that could hold dual gatling guns. So that was 1488 01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:40,119 a really steady, consistent damage and then I would often change out my shoulder 1489 01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:43,560 weapons depending on the situation a lot of the time. So like I still 1490 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,960 generally had the mecha was going. It's not like I had to rebuild a 1491 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:53,119 new mech for every mission or anything like that. Jan mentioned that in the 1492 01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:57,000 quick Look that he was doing the two fingers on the on the triggers or 1493 01:34:57,119 --> 01:35:00,239 you know, index and middle fingers up on the shoulder buttons. Where you 1494 01:35:00,279 --> 01:35:02,039 playing that way? Oh? Always? Or do you always play that way? 1495 01:35:02,039 --> 01:35:05,840 I don't know, uh, I guess man, I've never really thought 1496 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,560 of it like that before. How do I play? I don't know. 1497 01:35:10,199 --> 01:35:14,279 I normally just roll my next finger back and forth depending on I'm hiddie shoulder 1498 01:35:14,399 --> 01:35:16,319 or the or the bumper one in control right now to figure this out. 1499 01:35:16,359 --> 01:35:18,600 Now, I think I just do one O gays kind of roll it. 1500 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,239 Especially we're doing that for Amacore as well. Okay, okay, yeah, 1501 01:35:21,399 --> 01:35:24,880 yeah, that's what I was doing. Yeah, because you do have to 1502 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:29,960 push all four of those shoulder buttons pretty regularly. That's where all your your 1503 01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,439 four weapons are going to be bound too. So yeah, it's a you 1504 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,199 know, it can be a lot. You know, it's a complicate game. 1505 01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:40,439 In some sense. It kind of better be if I'm piloting a giant 1506 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:44,279 robot, right, I kind of want that feeling to be there. Jan 1507 01:35:44,399 --> 01:35:46,880 Jerome Ochoa and Chat says, as a vagrant story, Mark, vagrant story 1508 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,479 shouldn't be up there. We're just talking about you. Yeah, yeah, 1509 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:54,840 we talk about your fingers, Jan, like always, thanks thanks for tuning 1510 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:58,800 in. Man. Uh yeah, I'm excited to play this game still. 1511 01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,359 I also expect, like I'll go in there and be like even knowing and 1512 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,039 having people tell me over and over and over again. Don't expect like the 1513 01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:10,640 recent from software games, or for this to play like the recent from software 1514 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,239 games. I bet I'm still going to go in there and be like, 1515 01:36:12,319 --> 01:36:14,800 oh, I'm surprised how much this isn't one of those, and it is 1516 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,600 like whatever Armored Core was, right game series I've never played, and I 1517 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,680 it's the same way as like, I get it. Of course it's not 1518 01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:23,039 going to be like those, but I was like surprised that there wasn't a 1519 01:36:23,079 --> 01:36:25,479 little bit more of that, like where it is like some of those bigger 1520 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,479 boss fights, especially with like the bosses with the big tells of when you're 1521 01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,880 supposed to dodge right and then like you have your three Helia items, So 1522 01:36:31,079 --> 01:36:34,800 a little bit of that and just I guess, you know, customization that's 1523 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:39,760 maybe stretching things. That's a lot of games. But you know, even 1524 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,880 from what I understand of Armored Core, it's like, oh yeah, this 1525 01:36:42,119 --> 01:36:45,840 is just that again, but with a lot more polish, a lot of 1526 01:36:45,079 --> 01:36:49,279 elden Ring money kind of clearly thrown its way. You can see it. 1527 01:36:49,319 --> 01:36:51,960 Like I said, it's a very pretty game. It's also simple in ways 1528 01:36:53,039 --> 01:36:57,000 that I almost like like there's a lot of single rendered human in this entire 1529 01:36:57,079 --> 01:37:00,039 game, and that is fine. That yah, yeah, the hell with 1530 01:37:00,119 --> 01:37:02,359 that. You see robots, you see buildings, When people talk to you, 1531 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:05,880 it's over a radio and I'm like, that's fine. That's probably part 1532 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:10,560 of why it also looks really good because they're not doing stuff like that. 1533 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,680 But you know, some things will bristle you a little bit, Like so 1534 01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:15,359 you know, when you go on a mission, you're just in a level 1535 01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,560 and it's pretty big, but you will also run across like invisible walls, 1536 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,479 and it'll be like, oh, don't leave the mission parameter. It's like, 1537 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,760 Okay, I get it, I get why you have to do that. 1538 01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:28,880 You know, I don't want to speak blasphemy, but it's hard not 1539 01:37:29,039 --> 01:37:31,800 to imagine what this would be like if it was just like a straight up 1540 01:37:32,319 --> 01:37:35,520 open world, more kind of a thing where you are just exploring this giant 1541 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:40,079 space. Because the movement is really fun. It's maybe the best thing here 1542 01:37:40,279 --> 01:37:44,600 is because you could basically sort of fly. You have thrusters, even on 1543 01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,920 a heavier mech that can be pretty generous. If you make the right mech, 1544 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,039 you can really just fly around and that feels fantastic. It's almost like 1545 01:37:50,159 --> 01:37:54,119 that best part of anthem, right, yeah, flying you kind of have 1546 01:37:54,359 --> 01:37:58,000 that here too, especially if like levels where there's sort of buildings you're weaving 1547 01:37:58,039 --> 01:38:00,279 in and out of, and sometimes you're kind of use that to maybe avoid 1548 01:38:00,399 --> 01:38:03,760 some of the less necessary fights to get yourself to the mission objective. That 1549 01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:09,600 feels very good. I yeah, when when when I did see that at 1550 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,439 Summer Game Fest and seeing the movement, it's like, man, this just 1551 01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,560 looks slick as how. It looks like it feels great to move these big 1552 01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:19,439 heavy machines around with all those great thus thrusters and the look the look of 1553 01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,199 the thrusters who was really good as well. So yeah, that's that's the 1554 01:38:23,239 --> 01:38:25,680 thing I'm most excited about. Get my hands on move the mech around. 1555 01:38:27,279 --> 01:38:30,159 This game is going to be the best selling armor card game, without any 1556 01:38:31,039 --> 01:38:35,880 doubt about that at all. Do you think that it does well enough that 1557 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,800 they start to say, okay, this is our other ongoing series, and 1558 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,439 then they could get to a point where it's like, maybe we do one 1559 01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,039 that is more open, or do you think they're like they're happy to stick 1560 01:38:45,039 --> 01:38:47,720 with it, being like they're smaller game that that is more concise and easier 1561 01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,800 to get done. You can see both ways. You can see them like 1562 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:54,760 maybe making this really ambitious Armored cor seven or maybe you're like, okay, 1563 01:38:55,079 --> 01:38:58,079 let's reconvenient another ten years. We can just kind of do one of these 1564 01:38:58,119 --> 01:39:00,560 again and people will like it and those things will be happy. It's hard 1565 01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,920 to tell. Like, I no Armor Core four. They sort of just 1566 01:39:04,039 --> 01:39:09,439 like reused a lot of stuff to make a pseudo sequel or a sideway sequel 1567 01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,560 before they might Armor Core five. Right, there's four answer. Maybe they 1568 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,359 can do some moil or something something I just combined something similar until work. 1569 01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:19,800 You can do something similar with that here. It's hard to say, because 1570 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:24,640 you know, yea, they have to make an Owen Ring two. You 1571 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,720 have to imagine that maybe at some point they might want to make a second 1572 01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:31,439 or two, or a bloodborn two. Who knows, or maybe another entirely 1573 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,800 new thing, or maybe from soft is actually just able to expense much that 1574 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:41,119 they can have this going as a vertical. Also, I'm not sure your 1575 01:39:41,239 --> 01:39:45,119 internet Internet doing okay, you breaking out squiggly wiggily on us. I know 1576 01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:49,079 your voice, your voice is still coming through like ninety percent, but you 1577 01:39:49,159 --> 01:39:53,359 got a smeared video feed now and it does seem like a connection issue. 1578 01:39:53,399 --> 01:39:57,600 But okay, we're completely fine. Sorry, I think we're probably gonna get 1579 01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,640 through. Oh yeah, it's just continue, Yeah, we'll be fun. 1580 01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:02,960 Uh yeah, Mike, Mike has gone to plaid everybody. That's what's happened 1581 01:40:03,239 --> 01:40:08,119 here. Yeah, somehow I'm gonna make time for this, I don't know 1582 01:40:08,199 --> 01:40:11,600 how. But it is out tonight, right is that? Is that? 1583 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,880 Right? Yeah? It comes out because like it's gonna be out tomorrow officially, 1584 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,479 so I'm probably like tonight by midnight it'll be launched. That is. 1585 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,520 I'm ready for it. I'm gonna get it, get it going right here 1586 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,079 on this machine and play a little bit of it. Uh, But I 1587 01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:26,760 got a million games to play right now, including a lot of stuff we 1588 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,119 gotta do for quick Looks next week, and we got to leave in the 1589 01:40:29,159 --> 01:40:31,680 middle of next week because of packs, so short on time. But I'll 1590 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,720 find some time at least play a little bit of this Steam already, so 1591 01:40:35,079 --> 01:40:39,520 it's been out on Steam fantastic. Well, then I'm going to start downloading 1592 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,880 us. We're done here, Okay, Anything else, Mike, that you've 1593 01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:48,359 been playing or anything else about Armored Course six, gosh, nothing else. 1594 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:50,640 I think I kind of said what I want to say about. You want 1595 01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:54,680 to you want to see something depressing though, Go to the Armored Course subreddit 1596 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:59,800 and see people freaking out about reviews even though it's you know, like it 1597 01:41:00,039 --> 01:41:01,880 probably it has to be the best reviewed arm Record game ever, and they 1598 01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,479 still all they can do is scour reviews for something that upsets them to get 1599 01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:10,159 mad about. Yeah, that's uh, that's how it goes. And it's 1600 01:41:10,159 --> 01:41:13,640 just like, I mean, listen, they're Armored. Cord fans have been 1601 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,880 very thirsty for this game for a very long time, and they want it 1602 01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,479 to be game of the year material. And I think for a lot of 1603 01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:21,880 people this probably is going to be their game of the year. They're probably 1604 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:26,079 gonna like it that much. It might not It just might not be the 1605 01:41:26,119 --> 01:41:30,399 consensus game of the year because look at this year and anyway it's going to 1606 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,319 be Yeah, it's it's it's yeah, it's so it's like, yeah, 1607 01:41:32,399 --> 01:41:39,720 that's for from software. That's abnormal now because they're less several games have been 1608 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,760 game of the year. What they're thinking here, They're not thinking like this 1609 01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,680 is so good for him record. They're thinking like at eighty seven, whoa 1610 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:47,600 but oulda Ring was in the nineties and look at it gives are in the 1611 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,600 nineties this year? Is that really where we are? Incredible? That's I 1612 01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:55,640 mean, that's where we are. Yes, So yeah, I'm glad to 1613 01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:57,680 hear you liked it. I'm glad to hear so many people are liking it, 1614 01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:00,239 even Jan who got frustrated with it little bit. He seemed like by 1615 01:42:00,279 --> 01:42:02,279 the end of it's like, you know what this is, this is there's 1616 01:42:02,319 --> 01:42:05,399 a lot of good stuff going on here. So I think that's kind of 1617 01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:10,720 where I'm gonna end up with it as well. Make these games pasts multiplayer? 1618 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,920 Do you try it in because we'll not have multiplayer? Before I thought 1619 01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,000 they always did. What do you mean always did? I thought, yeah, 1620 01:42:18,039 --> 01:42:20,680 that's what everyone says. Armc were always had some for a while, 1621 01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:24,960 I had PvP, maybe not online multiplayer because of the game of the series 1622 01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,479 has been around turn servers on and just never was able to ever find a 1623 01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,880 match. It's it does not seem to be very important, to be clear, 1624 01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:34,479 Like it is just you know, you basically have the PvP against a 1625 01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:39,680 bunch of bots is like a way to earn points to get passive upgrades. 1626 01:42:40,039 --> 01:42:43,399 Uh. That wasn't that interested or cared that much about missing out on the 1627 01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,359 PvP? What what? What makes the first boss so hard? Again? 1628 01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,479 If we're talking if we're talking about first boss, this first big boss or 1629 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,840 the difficulties, Spike, you're talking about the big The biggest thing is that 1630 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,640 he kind of has this big energy shield, and it's kind of the first 1631 01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,560 time you're learning, like what the energy show us to be taken down with 1632 01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,359 energy weapons, so you kind of need to have energy weapons at that point. 1633 01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,600 And even then, it's just he's just he just has a lot of 1634 01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:11,800 health and deals a lot of damage compared to everything else so far in that 1635 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,439 game. He also liked has this he's a bunch of attack where he'll shoot 1636 01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,560 out one wave of like a thousand missiles and then a second wave right after 1637 01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:21,239 it, so you had to kind of do a double job double dodge, 1638 01:43:21,279 --> 01:43:25,000 and you're still gonna maybe get clipped by it a lot. He just it's 1639 01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:28,359 it's a lot. It's just it was the one thing except for maybe the 1640 01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,720 very final boss, but even more so, it's like the biggest wall I 1641 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,520 hit in terms of this took me like a good hour and again at one 1642 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,439 point I had to just quit the mission, kind of grind, build a 1643 01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:42,079 new Mac and come back at it, okay real quick. Just to backups 1644 01:43:42,159 --> 01:43:46,000 on like said, this is the best reviewed Armored Core by a solid ten 1645 01:43:46,199 --> 01:43:51,119 ish. Yeah, it's just it's just weird, right, like like like 1646 01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:56,199 the game is gonna be inherently slightly niche. Of course, there's gonna be 1647 01:43:56,239 --> 01:43:59,520 some people who just aren't going to like it that much. Like I understand 1648 01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:01,680 that about the genres. I like that our more niche, like beat them 1649 01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,880 ups and you know, point click at venture games. I don't get mad 1650 01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,880 when they don't get scores in the nineties, right, I get it. 1651 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,600 Yeah. Plus it's like I got a bad review from like a French website, 1652 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:13,800 and the French hate Max. We all know this, right, right 1653 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,159 because they you know, they fear them. They fear them exactly. Yes, 1654 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,279 I know they know where the Mexs are going first. They know that 1655 01:44:19,359 --> 01:44:24,279 they're getting first. They've had it coming for a long time. Yeah, 1656 01:44:24,319 --> 01:44:28,279 I'm coming for your freedom Fries look out. Yeah, but uh, other 1657 01:44:28,359 --> 01:44:30,880 things. So you know, we've been playing Super Metrod for the Game Club. 1658 01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,520 I also, like I said, I was just playing through it again 1659 01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,640 and for the first time, I got a completion under three hours. So 1660 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,319 that felt good, not just because I saw Sam miss in a bikini, 1661 01:44:40,359 --> 01:44:43,119 but it's just fun of that, I'm sure, and then I hate it, 1662 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,439 but yeah, it just felt good to finally do that in Super Metroid. 1663 01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,359 Gotta Yeah, I like Super Metroid. It's gonna be interesting when we 1664 01:44:49,399 --> 01:44:53,680 talk about that sometime next week, probably gonna have to be on Tuesday, 1665 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,439 even Sean and I think about what they'll put in the right If you guys 1666 01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,199 are getting me fun, yeah, we can do that. That works. 1667 01:44:58,359 --> 01:45:01,520 Yeah, I'm gonna be on the move all right. Yeah. Then I've 1668 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:06,479 been playing Bomb Rush Cyberfunk. I think that game is pretty good. A 1669 01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:10,640 lot of it comes down to all the things that do that did seem to 1670 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:15,640 make jet Set Radio and jet Set Jet Jet Grind Radio make those games very 1671 01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,600 good, which was, you know, their style, uh, the you 1672 01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,319 know, the look, the music. This game has all that stuff. 1673 01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:25,199 And then I think it also feels really good when you're playing it and you're 1674 01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:29,039 pulling off the combos and there's a big focus on making sure that you have 1675 01:45:29,359 --> 01:45:32,239 plenty of opportunities to link those combos together. I think the combat was a 1676 01:45:32,319 --> 01:45:36,960 bit weird. Basically, I was just ramming my character into the bad guy 1677 01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,640 and hoping for the best, and that's what you're supposed to do that a 1678 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:45,640 combat. Yeah, it was. Yeah, Bump comm It's it's like one 1679 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:47,840 in two combat. I like it. Yes, it's it's awkward though, 1680 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:53,560 it's very uh because I don't even hit the textion or like the the sort 1681 01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,680 of response from the game, like when you ran into it's like nothing really 1682 01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,079 happens other than the character fell down. But that's what this game is about, 1683 01:46:00,159 --> 01:46:03,119 and there hasn't been a ton of that, so I'm not really playing. 1684 01:46:03,159 --> 01:46:08,279 And at the other half the combat is spray painting cops and that rules. 1685 01:46:08,319 --> 01:46:10,319 That's fun. It just like you know, it was grind next to 1686 01:46:10,359 --> 01:46:13,039 a bunch of cops and it's spray like seven of them in a row and 1687 01:46:13,119 --> 01:46:15,880 they haven't run run away with all this yellow paint on them. That's just 1688 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:20,359 fun. So I really kind of getting an appreciation for why people might have 1689 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:27,239 liked the Jet set games. But for for me, this is just clicking 1690 01:46:27,279 --> 01:46:28,960 in a lot of way. It's just because it feels a lot better. 1691 01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:31,800 So any chance you're gonna play this anytime soon? As someone who liked the 1692 01:46:32,279 --> 01:46:34,760 you know jests that radio and Jet I feel like I really should, So 1693 01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:38,640 maybe I'll try to sooner rather than later, because again, I do like 1694 01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:44,199 the Jet Grind Slash Set radio games a good bit, Yes, and then 1695 01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,520 uh, Curse Crackers. I can never remember the name. Curse Crackers, 1696 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,760 I think is correct. I put in a little bit more time with that 1697 01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:56,800 since talking about it on this Yes, and I watched the Steam video that 1698 01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:58,920 was so I could show people what it was like. And then it was 1699 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,800 like watching gay play of that and seem the super NonStop sort of long jumping 1700 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,880 to jump in on enemies and just going as fast as possible through the levels. 1701 01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:10,119 And then I've started playing it that way and it's awesome. This We 1702 01:47:10,199 --> 01:47:14,000 are in a cool time for in D two D platformers, between this and 1703 01:47:14,079 --> 01:47:16,279 Pizza Tower, where it's like, no, you're just let like link all 1704 01:47:16,319 --> 01:47:19,760 your moves together and go as fast as fucking possible and you're gonna feel awesome. 1705 01:47:20,199 --> 01:47:23,760 And that was definitely true in Pizza Tower. I think it's even more 1706 01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:27,560 true here. So just really really adore this game so far. I'm glad 1707 01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,399 glad a code so I could check it out and kind of really recommend it. 1708 01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,760 It's on Switch, people should check that out. But then it is, 1709 01:47:34,199 --> 01:47:38,279 you know, it's all Starfield. We're playing Starfield. It's all Starfield, 1710 01:47:38,319 --> 01:47:40,840 which again we can't talk about yet, but we'll have something for that 1711 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,359 when we can. So, yeah, a lot a lot of time spending 1712 01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,279 in a bunch of different video games looking for things I can talk about, 1713 01:47:46,279 --> 01:47:48,600 and then the rest of the time and stuff I can't talk about. And 1714 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,000 then, like I said, I'm gonna try some Armored Cores, but yeah, 1715 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,720 that doesn't for me, Mike anything else. No, we've got some 1716 01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:56,760 more super chats though, before we can get out of here. Yeah, 1717 01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:59,960 let's hit those super chats and then wrap up the show. Rogers Og says, 1718 01:48:00,079 --> 01:48:01,880 my partner and I went to our state fair this past weekend and had 1719 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,880 a great time eating way too much deep fried food. What is your favorite 1720 01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:11,359 fair food? I usually like getting some kind of fried cheese on a stick. 1721 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:17,159 Situation, Jeff, I like unfair food. Bad joke. It's bad 1722 01:48:17,279 --> 01:48:20,319 joke. It's not even a joke. Really, it's not even it's not 1723 01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:25,000 even a really Jeff, but I'm not even gonna call it word play. 1724 01:48:25,079 --> 01:48:30,479 To stop that, Stop that. Mass ariol Goto says, where the hell's 1725 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,600 golden Sun? I thought we could see golden someone's before two thousand, wasn't 1726 01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,119 it? And we said no, maybe it was after Game Boy Advanced two 1727 01:48:36,319 --> 01:48:40,239 one. Yeah, it's after even Well, I'll tell you what. Don't 1728 01:48:40,239 --> 01:48:45,119 get your hopes of toot for Golden Sun anyway. So Golden forgot. Okay, 1729 01:48:45,159 --> 01:48:45,960 Okay, I forgot. I forgot. You like it? Yes, 1730 01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:51,520 matt el Alert says, rites for no One Less Forever are between APK, 1731 01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:56,800 Disney and EA. So okay, that's that's what it was. How did 1732 01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,119 that? I thought I remember it? Yeah? I don't know, but 1733 01:48:59,159 --> 01:49:00,399 I thought I remembered. Were like, oh, someone's trying to figure it 1734 01:49:00,399 --> 01:49:02,920 out. But maybe that was like we wish someone would figure that out, 1735 01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,359 and no one has. Okay. Doctor Ryan says, consider best wrestling game 1736 01:49:06,399 --> 01:49:10,720 for episode three sixteen. Oh that'd be funny. Yeah that's good. Okay, 1737 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,359 Yeah, two weeks from now we can maybe do that. Al Greg 1738 01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,279 says, lower a Mike game for him lying about love Butt. I'm gonna 1739 01:49:15,359 --> 01:49:18,760 get to love boat. I well promise a strong word, but I'm going 1740 01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,760 to really try hard to get the love boats soon. If you could just 1741 01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:24,640 watch one episode of love Boat, all these people wouldn't We will say anything, 1742 01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:28,039 I know, but the problems youis I forget. Okay, listen, 1743 01:49:29,279 --> 01:49:34,359 I understand that you get that. I get that they see says maybe out 1744 01:49:34,359 --> 01:49:39,960 and Ring and Armor Cord have made a new Kingsfield game possible. That would 1745 01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,399 be amazing. I would really like that. That would be very fun. 1746 01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,359 We should play some Kingsfield games on Giant Bomb. That could be good. 1747 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,800 William Carana says a Certain Affinity is showing a new game at games Colm behind 1748 01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:56,119 Closed Doors called Project low Row. Do you know if them plus Xbox are 1749 01:49:56,159 --> 01:50:00,680 still working on Sworte. It's wort the Halo, the cold name for the 1750 01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,600 Halo battle Way. I forgot what Swortte is. I don't know that, 1751 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,760 but project one of these is probably the Monster Hunter game that they're working on 1752 01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:11,680 Xbox with, so that might be Sporte. I don't know, I don't 1753 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,439 know. I'm pretty sure that Certain Affinity is still working on that game with 1754 01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:17,880 Xbox. Yes, Sorryfitty one who's working on the Halo thing? Was that 1755 01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:23,279 surfing is also? Then? Okay? Yep rios is. I kind of 1756 01:50:23,279 --> 01:50:25,680 wish the g T A six guy was a bit and he would return at 1757 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,199 the end as a lead into a GTA six trailer. Man, I want 1758 01:50:28,239 --> 01:50:30,640 to do it like that. Do you think we get any other Rockstar game 1759 01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:36,399 besides g TA six This gen. No, yeah, we do. We 1760 01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:41,159 think we would get any other Rocks Yeah no, no, absolutely not no, 1761 01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:44,520 just just just I don't know if we'll get another one next gen. 1762 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,760 We think she'll just be six. At that point, I wonder, like, 1763 01:50:49,159 --> 01:50:54,279 is it just immediately you go do Reddtion three? I guess right, 1764 01:50:54,399 --> 01:50:59,520 why not? Man? Probably that because whatever, I know you don't like 1765 01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,159 Red Dead Redemption. But I'm not starting. I'm not even I'm sorry. 1766 01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,560 Even if I did, like, I think it would be a burn like 1767 01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,520 that much. They would try something else. Yeah, Bully too, give 1768 01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,880 me Bully two first, and then maybe would do another Redhead. Yes, 1769 01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,600 there we go. I like Red Deead a lot more than I thought. 1770 01:51:15,239 --> 01:51:16,640 But that's it. Thank you everybody for the super chats. If you want 1771 01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:19,279 to get one in, you're running out of time. There's a recent era. 1772 01:51:20,119 --> 01:51:25,520 Oh it's about that project Lauro. This is this a first person shooter? 1773 01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:30,199 Okay, so I don't know, okay, all right, fair enough, 1774 01:51:30,399 --> 01:51:33,239 all right, hey everybody, thank you for tuning in. I think 1775 01:51:33,239 --> 01:51:35,800 we're gonna start wrapping up the show. If we have nothing else, I'm 1776 01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:40,079 gonna hit the button even make sure that the music is gonna play. It's 1777 01:51:40,119 --> 01:51:42,800 not there we go bike. Where can people find you on the internet. 1778 01:51:43,279 --> 01:51:45,479 They can find me on GamesBeat dot com. You can check out my Armored 1779 01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,600 Course six review there. We did a voicemail dump truck today over at giant 1780 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:53,920 Bomb. That's a lot of fun. We also watched all those trailers from 1781 01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:59,079 Games Common Future Game Show, so check those out as well over on giant 1782 01:51:59,119 --> 01:52:02,279 Bomb. Part this podcast is two hours long. It doesn't feel like that. 1783 01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:04,920 It surprising. It's so much fun with you. Yeah, it's what 1784 01:52:05,119 --> 01:52:09,760 has the time just flies with you, Mike. Thank you everybody for listening. 1785 01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:13,399 Again, jeff Grub everywhere, Jeffy Grub, grub on threads. Let's 1786 01:52:13,399 --> 01:52:18,439 do each other here, okay, okay, joined the discord Discord, Discord 1787 01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:24,079 dot gig, slash game mess again and the Patreon patreon dot com slash game 1788 01:52:24,079 --> 01:52:25,880 mess. Yeah, we've had a lot of people, like a little bit 1789 01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:29,840 of a surge since we did the Colombo thing, So maybe that's just coincidence, 1790 01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,720 or maybe it is the power of Colombo, power of Colombo Baby. 1791 01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,079 Let's again that that episode is not public for everyone yet, so if you 1792 01:52:35,159 --> 01:52:39,039 want it, you go to the Patreon and get it, and then if 1793 01:52:39,039 --> 01:52:42,399 you do that You can also tune in live as we record are our early 1794 01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:44,920 episode of a game mess Jeopardy, and you can watch it a month before 1795 01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,239 anyone else, So feel free to do that. And really just the support 1796 01:52:47,319 --> 01:52:50,720 for Patreon is is huge. It is definitely the biggest driver of cash now 1797 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,920 for us, and that that makes it makes doing this work really worth it. 1798 01:52:56,319 --> 01:52:58,399 It just helps in general. I got them. I got a mortgage 1799 01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,159 to pay, so I appreciate it everybody I know, But I like the 1800 01:53:01,199 --> 01:53:04,039 money. Oh I deal a mortgage, but yes, yeah, it's not 1801 01:53:04,119 --> 01:53:06,760 a real mortgage, it's one of them. You have four kids. Also, 1802 01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:10,920 I just like I got the pandemic era mortgage. It's a little bit. 1803 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,159 HiT's a little I got a good deal on my mortgage. Yeah, 1804 01:53:13,199 --> 01:53:16,119 my rate is fantastic. Yes's okay compared to where it is today. But 1805 01:53:16,239 --> 01:53:20,520 still and then yes, those kids, they multiple times, they don't stop 1806 01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:25,399 eating. It's you just can't always need food. It's multiple times a day, 1807 01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:29,319 yes, yeah, multiple like frequently, it's it's multiple times a day 1808 01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:31,159 the time. It's a game as shepard tomorrow, I think we're doing at 1809 01:53:31,199 --> 01:53:34,079 seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific. I think she's good that and we 1810 01:53:34,159 --> 01:53:38,920 gotta into into grilled cheese sandwiches. That's all she wants. I was asking 1811 01:53:39,119 --> 01:53:44,239 shot. He knows the time for sure. Good with the guests, so 1812 01:53:44,319 --> 01:53:46,920 yeah, I think good though. But lots of butter, so much butter? 1813 01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,359 Oh yeah, butter and cheats the gross So that's definitely lots of thanks. 1814 01:53:50,399 --> 01:54:02,000 Everybody cut you next time. I don't like this one. I mean 1815 01:54:02,039 --> 01:54:09,039 I don't know, but I don't know anything about them gaming. Everything about 1816 01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:14,039 x DMX is gonna give it to you. Is that that guy? Yeah? 1817 01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:27,119 Yeah, it's Donald Duck for real. Zach Za Zach Zachari Barage. 1818 01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:35,920 Yeah, gig's worth of women's butts, get a card or Zacharie Barage web 1819 01:54:36,039 --> 01:54:46,600 ball web ball web Sweet web Sweet maximum Spider one for JJ. Got it. 1820 01:54:47,399 --> 01:54:56,159 I'm ready to go hit me too, all right, Sean, see 1821 01:54:56,239 --> 01:55:00,760 that you have the game going. Let's see here. I'm that one then 1822 01:55:00,039 --> 01:55:06,720 and then this game button on. I like a tiny lade. Yeah that 1823 01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:10,800 looked nice. That looked fun. What you like it? I thought you 1824 01:55:11,319 --> 01:55:14,560 like like that one. I like building things. I thought you hated it 1825 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,000 because he was too cocy. No, no, he did not say that. 1826 01:55:17,079 --> 01:55:19,399 I didn't say about that when I was into that one. Oh man, 1827 01:55:21,239 --> 01:55:25,560 okay, I was running that was about to yell at you. I 1828 01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:33,600 like it. That's yelling at me. Quizz Nos. I'm this quiz Nos 1829 01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:40,000 Medusa. Quizz has had this probably terrible for me, like chicken Alfredo yelling. 1830 01:55:40,199 --> 01:55:43,840 He's not yelling. They caught it a Carbonara actually, and it's like 1831 01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:45,520 the kind of carbonara that is just an Alfredo sauce of baked instead of a 1832 01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:49,920 Carbonaro sauce. Hey, Donny does lie right, but it tasted an amazing 1833 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:54,960 I'm I'm good to go us back in there. What is the best sub 1834 01:55:55,039 --> 01:56:00,159 sandwich chain? It's is it? Mike's what is it? I I'm being 1835 01:56:00,159 --> 01:56:03,359 a bitter because I had awful I had an awful experience at Jersey Mix once. 1836 01:56:04,039 --> 01:56:06,479 Yeah, Jersey Mix. It seems like they've got a lot going on, 1837 01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,560 so it seems gonna be easy to mess up. Yeah. It's just 1838 01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:11,399 one of the things where it's like they put let us on myself and it 1839 01:56:11,399 --> 01:56:13,000 wouldn't let us. I say, hey, you put less on this. 1840 01:56:13,279 --> 01:56:15,079 Then the like tried to scrape it off, which is awful, and then 1841 01:56:15,159 --> 01:56:17,720 an awful job. There's still so much let us on it. It's not 1842 01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,199 okay, I said, what it's like, did you just try to scrape 1843 01:56:20,199 --> 01:56:23,119 it off? Like yeah, like, can you make a new one please? 1844 01:56:23,479 --> 01:56:28,439 As a sandwich artist, that offends me. You never stopped being a 1845 01:56:28,479 --> 01:56:30,680 sandwich artist once you've become one. By the way, I worked at Subway 1846 01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:39,239 and Jimmy John's, I would never have scraped something off and give the ingredients 1847 01:56:39,319 --> 01:56:42,079 cost like seventy five cents. You just remake it. It's not so big 1848 01:56:42,119 --> 01:56:45,840 a deal. Okay, let's see, all right, I'm gonna bring this 1849 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:50,680 back in all right, I'm gonna all right, and I'm gonna post this 1850 01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:57,399 chat chat. Anybody thinks, look I like famp fus fancy. Anybody thinks 1851 01:56:57,399 --> 01:57:04,119 pomp fusy it is bare fop fancy nine is actually yes, yes, yes, 1852 01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:10,800 this is the one time I agree with the Final Fantasy time I do. 1853 01:57:11,239 --> 01:57:15,000 I don't have any strong feelings about those two games. But Mike's ready 1854 01:57:17,159 --> 01:57:21,880 Final Fantasy. It always looked I don't know, it's still a good game. 1855 01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:25,199 That's the problem. People are like, it's a bad game. No, 1856 01:57:25,319 --> 01:57:27,600 No, it's it's good. It's just not as good as seven or 1857 01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:32,319 nine. But it has this certain weird swagger to it that I ever liked. 1858 01:57:32,359 --> 01:57:35,319 Where it's like, we're the people that made Final Fantasy seven. I 1859 01:57:35,359 --> 01:57:39,800 watched this pull up our bridges and make a real video game. I thought 1860 01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:43,319 it was because it was teenagers. Yeah, definitely, yes, definitely, 1861 01:57:43,319 --> 01:57:45,520 pardon it felt very like Titanic, which I don't want Titanic. I don't 1862 01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,800 even know if it was out at that point, but it felt like Titanic. 1863 01:57:48,439 --> 01:57:54,119 Man, Twitter is gonna love you putting Vagrant story over Gold Silvers, 1864 01:57:54,159 --> 01:57:59,680 gonna love it. Oh yeah, it's right. No, No, okay, 1865 01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:04,079 hey, hey, you motherfucker's put the broken ass mess of a game 1866 01:58:04,119 --> 01:58:06,880 brand blue out list, but you're not playing gold and Silver on the list. 1867 01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,520 You know, there's this you know, cultural historic things. Okay, 1868 01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,840 you're right, but still I was like, I don't know, I guess 1869 01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:21,000 engagement. Nobody telling anybody, Yeah exactly, of course that Yeah, do 1870 01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:27,159 you even do you even say the worst Code Veronica allowed, because that game 1871 01:58:27,279 --> 01:58:30,760 is that they have to so good. I looked at Code Veronica and I 1872 01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:35,319 was gonna wait for Mike the sand He didn't, so nobody say no, 1873 01:58:35,359 --> 01:58:42,239 one said Code Vernica. I don't think, Yes, it's it's definitely one 1874 01:58:42,239 --> 01:58:44,960 of those ones where I know people liked it, but at the time I 1875 01:58:45,039 --> 01:58:49,159 remember playing it on Dreamcast and then being like something about, this feels pretty 1876 01:58:49,159 --> 01:58:53,039 out of date with these tank controls. Not that there, Like, I'm 1877 01:58:53,039 --> 01:58:55,840 fine with tank controls. I'll play a game with ten controls. It felt 1878 01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,720 out of date and out of place at almost feels like it was supposed to 1879 01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:06,760 be Resival three. Yeah, wild figured stories the Baba yet to Yeah, 1880 01:59:08,399 --> 01:59:13,359 is good fucking incredible. You're absolutely right, Ricky. I look, I 1881 01:59:13,479 --> 01:59:19,119 realized I came at the Pomp Fantasy eight people really hardology. I wasn't I 1882 01:59:19,279 --> 01:59:24,760 wasn't wrong, but still I was. I shouldn't have said it's he's not 1883 01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:30,880 wrong, but he's out of line. Oh man, Like you don't need 1884 01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:36,319 to be a dick to be like fruitful like that. I'm not gonna lie. 1885 01:59:36,319 --> 01:59:44,039 It felt good to say it. It felt a little bad. All 1886 01:59:44,119 --> 01:59:46,760 right, let's see here. Okay, we can bring it back in. 1887 01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:49,159 I'll be good. Everyone good. Yeah, Yeah, for sure,