WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:07.280 You're listening to KFI on demand. De Tours on the road sometimes can be 2 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:11.039 quite simple. It takes you off of one road and onto another road. 3 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:17.800 Arrows that are everywhere you look pointing you in the new direction, the direction 4 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:23.039 that you must go through now to get to where you're going. Interestingly enough, 5 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:29.160 a detour doesn't really know where you're going. They assume they know where 6 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.960 you're going based on the road that where they caught you that they're detouring you 7 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:37.359 from. So ultimately their goal is to get you back on that road eventually 8 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:44.719 going in that direction in a way that isn't a great inconvenience. And there 9 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:52.359 are detours in scripture as well, and there will be detours in your spiritual 10 00:00:52.399 --> 00:01:00.759 life. And oftentimes this concept of a detour put one into a state of 11 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:07.640 chaos because it's like, Okay, I had planned for this, I was 12 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.719 going down this path, This was my goal to get to this area, 13 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:15.319 to do it this way in this amount of time, which is all good, 14 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:19.680 and the best way to start really is to have that plan, to 15 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.879 have that path. But as a believer, as someone of faith, you 16 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.799 always have to be in that state of whatever you want God Thy will be 17 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:34.959 done. God and be ready for whatever lesson. This ties into tests, 18 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:42.519 but it gets you in that mindset that if God wants to teach you something, 19 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.280 then it can come out from everywhere. Now, this concept of a 20 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:51.560 detour, or when you get off that main road going that main direction that 21 00:01:51.640 --> 00:02:00.400 you had anticipated and prepped for, can take a lot of time because now 22 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:04.040 you're processing new information. And let's face it, sometimes when you make a 23 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:08.919 plan to do something, you kind of go into autopilot and now you have 24 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:15.000 to really be in the moment, be present. It consumes more of who 25 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:22.680 you are, and that can be frustrating, not just the amount of time 26 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:25.560 it's taken, not just that it's going to be more difficult, but also 27 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:35.520 just the energy wise. It just takes your energy that is frustrating onto itself, 28 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:42.439 but in your life as a person of faith, as somebody who focuses 29 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:49.879 on their spirituality, you have to allow for God to do this. Christians 30 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:57.000 would not be where you are today if you didn't allow God to take you 31 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:05.919 on detours. There are detours throughout the entirety of Scripture, including probably the 32 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:19.759 most well known one forty years in the desert. So this detour happens to 33 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:28.560 the children of Israel when they're in the wilderness, and for many different reasons, 34 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:34.879 lack of faith, not trusting that God had the power to conquer. 35 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:47.479 But there were those there that accepted the detour by God and found that it 36 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:54.719 wasn't about leaving this perfect road that they had perceived was the best way, 37 00:03:54.800 --> 00:04:00.800 but about trusting God would find and always put them on the perfect road. 38 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:14.639 And what seems like a curse or a frustration becomes a blessing. Think about 39 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:21.120 what Moses learned. Moses would press back a lot. If you remember when 40 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:29.040 you read the exchanges between Moses and the Father, Moses had a lot of 41 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.519 excuses at times, No, I'm not a good speaker, Maybe you should 42 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:41.560 use someone else, back and forth. But this detour built something, and 43 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:54.759 Moses too, didn't it. This detour strengthened Moses, says in Extus three 44 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.959 one. Now Moses was shepherding the flock of his father in law, Ja 45 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:05.240 Throw, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far 46 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:11.240 side of the desert and came to the mountain of God. The Angel of 47 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:20.120 the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire. Now Moses, this 48 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:29.240 goes on to talk about the flaming bush and the contact that he had, 49 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:36.680 and it says that Moses thought, I will turn aside to see this amazing 50 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:42.959 sight. Why does the bush not burn up? When the Lord saw that 51 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.759 he had turned aside to look, God called to him from within the bush 52 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:55.839 and said Moses, Moses, to which Moses replied, here I am. 53 00:05:55.959 --> 00:06:00.279 God said, do not approach any closer. Take your sandals off your beat, 54 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:06.120 for the place where you are standing is holy ground. The exchange going 55 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:11.680 on here is a point of change for Moses. This is something that he 56 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:15.519 wouldn't have experienced should he been in a state of rebellion against the change of 57 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:23.439 path or the change of direction, or any change at all. And your 58 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:29.439 life is similar. There are things that you have set in your head that 59 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:30.240 you think, oh, this is the path that I'm going to go on, 60 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.839 this is what I'm going to do. But in life there are detours, 61 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:39.040 and in your spiritual life there are detours as well, and you should 62 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:48.800 welcome them. And sometimes they are masked in frustration and ugliness, or something 63 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.120 comes along and you think, this is not what I want to do, 64 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:56.480 or this is not the path that I want to go down. But God 65 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:00.240 is always there on the other side of it saying no, honey, I 66 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.000 wanted you to learn something. I wanted you to experience something, and this 67 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:11.560 is the way to do it. You see, God never gets lost. 68 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:24.160 These detours are for you reminders of what's important, Reminders that you will get 69 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:30.040 there with persistence. You will get there with dedication. It may not come 70 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.800 in the time that you thought, it may not come the way you thought, 71 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:45.120 but with that dedication, with that perseverance, it will come. And 72 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.639 as you plan your paths in life and the path that you want spiritually, 73 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:55.800 emotionally, with relationships, work, whatever they may be, that as you 74 00:07:55.839 --> 00:08:01.040 plan them, know that somewhere inside that plan, somewhere deep rooted inside that 75 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:07.639 plan, is a Plan B or more importantly, what my producer likes to 76 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:13.399 referred to as a Plan G. And that's God's plan. Whether that deed 77 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:18.959 tour might pop up and show you a different direction, a different understanding, 78 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:26.560 a different path, all ordained by God to teach you something else, to 79 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:33.000 teach you something with more depth than you would have learned the other way. 80 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:43.919 And it's up to you to be attentive, to be faithfully flexible and willing 81 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:52.000 to be taken on a ryde Eric. Welcome to Jesus Christ Show. Good 82 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:56.000 morning, Jesus, my pleasure. What's going on? Bear with me? 83 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.440 I have a condition. We have to spit sometime. Okay, okay, 84 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:05.279 as long as it doesn't involve chew okay. I'm calling about the scripture of 85 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:13.879 Hebrews six four to six last week, speaking about those who have been enlightened 86 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.200 and the tastes of the heaven gifts of God. My question, my original 87 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:26.120 question was if a person's in that situation, what can they do well? 88 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:28.919 The condition is you have to be aware of it. If you're aware of 89 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:35.080 it, you're not really in that condition. It's like saying, um, 90 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:41.039 the old saying that only crazy people think they're saying saying people question their sanity 91 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:46.159 all the time. So in that particular case, when you're reading U, 92 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.919 and just as a way of reminding people, it says, for in the 93 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:56.440 case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift, 94 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.639 and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the 95 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.120 good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then 96 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:09.919 have fallen away, it is impossible to be renewed to renew them again to 97 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:13.200 repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the son of God and put him 98 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.080 to open shame. The question of that always comes up, Well, does 99 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.039 this mean that people once saved always saved? That people can fall away from 100 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:28.559 salvation? We said with the last caller last week. No, And that 101 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.519 the word taste there is important because it's only talking about bringing it to your 102 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.480 lips, but not really consuming it. If you look a little earlier in 103 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:39.200 chapter five, verse nine, it says, and having been made perfect, 104 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:48.399 he became to all those who obey him the source of eternal salvation. So 105 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:54.919 if you put these two together and you think about them, like, can 106 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.120 you fill the glass of somebody who already thinks their glass is full? No, 107 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.639 they won't ever accept anymore. They'll say, no, it's already full. 108 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:05.360 That's what it's talking about. There is that hubrist, that that pride, 109 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:11.720 that thinks that that they've already consumed it all when they've only brought it 110 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:16.120 to their lips. That you can't convince them that they haven't consumed that. 111 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.799 Therein lies the problem. So they end up rejecting God in their ignorance. 112 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.600 But as we know in scripture you're not judged on ignorance. So this is 113 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:33.320 a willful act of rejecting any further understanding about God. So that's where it 114 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.600 lies. It's it's it's like, can you change the mind of someone, 115 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:39.639 Yes? Can you change the mind of someone who thinks that they're so much 116 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:45.799 smarter than you that you can't teach them anything? No, So in this 117 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.600 case, the fact that you would pick up the phone to even ask the 118 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.039 question, Eric, shows me you're not in that category, because someone in 119 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:56.360 that category wouldn't even ask the question. They'd already think, well, I 120 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.000 already know everything. I'm already in there. But the that you even question, 121 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.480 going, oh I want anybody questions their salvation even or questions how does 122 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.200 this work? Or can I lose something? And I amn't going to do 123 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.840 something that offends God or so greatly that he turns away from meet. Those 124 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:18.440 types of things are from people who care and that if you're in that place, 125 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:22.720 Eric, then that would pretty much cast you out of the category of 126 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:28.559 somebody who is just kind of breezing along on the surface. It's like somebody 127 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:31.840 who comes to class is they're always on time, has the book open sits 128 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.679 in class, gazes over the words. All those things. Doesn't necessarily mean 129 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.799 they're a good student. They're just kind of you know, we talked about 130 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:46.120 integrity today and that steadfastness and that consistency and how you know, in Hollywood, 131 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.240 it's very easy just to put up a facade or the front of something 132 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:52.480 to make it look like it's a building, because they know there's no real 133 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:58.279 need to build the entire building for the use that they have. But in 134 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.360 life you can't get away with that. You can't just have a facade. 135 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.039 You have to be through and through. That integrity has to be through and 136 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:11.000 through. And what chapter six of Hebrews, chapter six, verse four, 137 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:16.279 five and six is talking about is that somebody has the facade of Christianity. 138 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.799 They don't. They don't really, it's not part of who they are truly. 139 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:26.960 It's just that facade and that that you know that they're in lives major 140 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:35.399 major problems. Rick, welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Yes, thanks 141 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.600 for being patient. How can I help you? That's all right? Well, 142 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:48.000 my question is regarding marriage and then later of life. I understand supporting 143 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.440 a marriage by having younger people go through the ceremony, in front of the 144 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:58.799 church and in front of society to support their bond and the union before God. 145 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.000 When you're in later in life and coming from failed relationships and you meet 146 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.759 someone who you connect with on a by heart and mind, body and soul 147 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:16.440 and commit to them for the rest of your life, basically, why does 148 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:22.399 society still expect you to jump through all those hoops and do the foo for 149 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:28.679 aw with the ceremony and the legal aspect of it when it's a commitment between 150 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.440 two people that we know in our hearts is true. Without giving too much 151 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.200 specific you don't need to give me a bunch of personal information. What do 152 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.919 you do for a living? I'm a truck driver? A truck driver? 153 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:46.240 Okay, and so do you work for a company or do you work on 154 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.679 your own independently? Work for a company, but I'm gone from the house 155 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.720 five to six days a week. We're connected by phone. And okay, 156 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.960 Well, do you did you reach an agreement with that company when you came 157 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:05.240 to work for them of some kind? It was an application of some kind? 158 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:11.840 Or okay, did you sign a contract of any kind? No? 159 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:16.679 Do you think they signed contracts with the companies that are have you shipping things 160 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:26.399 for them or of course why because of the legality involved. And I understand 161 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.240 the legality part to bind persons to an agreement. Honestly, Rick, it's 162 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:35.240 not jumping through hoops, it's not. It's a part of the process. 163 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.720 It's a part of being committed. And no matter what you say, there's 164 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:41.720 a part of you that's not committed, because if it's not a big deal 165 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.399 to you, then why not just do it? Why not just do it 166 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.399 and get committed because that's what God wants. The whole process of doing those 167 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:56.080 things are symbols. I get it, but there's a lot of symbolism in 168 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:00.279 scripture as well. Baptism is symbols, is a symbol. Some people think 169 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:04.600 that communion is a symbol. There's a lot of things that seem like symbols, 170 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:10.519 but their outward showing of an inward faith or goal or process. And 171 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:17.480 part of that is is being in fullness going through the process of marriage, 172 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.080 doing it in front of friends and family, and being committed. If you're 173 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:26.440 hiding from that by not doing that or saying some people make make excuses and 174 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.759 say, well, gosh, you know it, it's a lot of money 175 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:32.919 to have wedding. I get that. You know you can. You can 176 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:38.360 whittle it down there and do it very inexpensively. And if the world's putting 177 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.600 pressure you on you for that, I get it saying no, I'm not 178 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.919 going to bend to that. But you can go and have a sweet simple 179 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:52.759 service before you and God and make that commitment and make it solidify it because 180 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:55.720 right now, I mean, there's people say, oh, well, I'm 181 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:57.440 getting older, and I you know, it costs too much money to get 182 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.159 married, or our taxes will change, we won't get the same amount of 183 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:07.400 and all these excuses just become practical reasons not to stand before God and man 184 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:14.599 and make it legal. Because scripture says you're to obey the laws of the 185 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:18.880 land and as long as they don't contradict scripture, and in this particular case, 186 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.319 the law of the land is, if you're going to be married, 187 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.519 be married. And right now, if you're not married, you shouldn't be 188 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:33.519 having relations, and that would God would frown upon that. And trust me, 189 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.759 the process, the scriptural process of marriage two thousand years ago, you 190 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.759 know, took a whole heck of a lot longer than you know, a 191 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:48.000 ten minute ceremony. Nowadays, you're talking weeks, you're talking a year or 192 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:53.279 two of betrothal prior, and then sometimes the wedding took weeks and you had 193 00:17:53.319 --> 00:18:00.359 to feed everybody, including every single person in the town. That's why first 194 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.039 miracle, the wedding at Cana was so was such a big deal and not 195 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.880 a parlor trick. Is because making water into wine and it was about feeding 196 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.720 and having enough drink for the entire town. Otherwise you would not save face. 197 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:17.000 I was participating in a wedding there. If I thought it was just 198 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:22.079 you know, hubbub and no big deal, why would I even be gracing 199 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:26.400 it with my presence or being a part of it In that sense, I 200 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.960 understand that. Yet, on the legal side of it, the law does 201 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.799 allow for what they call common law depending on where you live. You're in 202 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:40.680 Vegas, yeah, depending on where you live, there's there's but that's just 203 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:44.680 part of the legality. So if you've been with this person for six years, 204 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:49.519 what's common law in Las Vegas? Seven So what are you going to 205 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:56.400 do? Then? Well, it's not much of what we do. I'm 206 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.640 more concerned about how other people pers see, and not that I'm looking for 207 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:06.640 their validations, but their comments. Sure, we should be concerned about God. 208 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:11.039 Yeah, but you know people are gonna make comments. People are often 209 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.599 wrong, trust me, and so I wouldn't worry about that. However, 210 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:21.480 scripture does talk about the appearance of evil and if you there's something, does 211 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.400 the woman you live with does she have any interest in having a wedding or 212 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:32.799 to be married in that context? Uh, it's yes and no on both 213 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:34.759 of our parts. Well, I'm not sure what the know is. I'm 214 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.640 not what is the no if you're just talking about Oh, well, it's 215 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.319 structure and it's the way the world wants it. No, it's the way 216 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:45.200 it is still in financial situations. Okay, So legal and financial situations that 217 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:49.759 you guys are in keep you from pretty much. Yeah, and what are 218 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:56.759 those legal or financial situations? Um, social Security and you know income and 219 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.160 we're later in life and on minimum you know sten films kind of thing. 220 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.480 Sure, I've heard that on more than one occasion. Well, there's and 221 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.680 there's some people that would be more lenient on this. I just think that 222 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.759 you're cheating your guys self. And the whole point of being partners is not 223 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.440 just not just living together and not just being a part of it. In 224 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:22.160 that sense, but really solidifying it by having that that marriage and not cheating 225 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.319 yourself of that experience. And the financial thing, I realize is can be 226 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:30.279 frustrating, but it's it's about the two of you. If it's just about 227 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.000 finances, it might be chippera. You know, then you just get a 228 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:37.640 roommate. You know, it's not about just being a room at I feel 229 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.880 that deep down inside you, whether you think that it's it's just a bunch 230 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:47.599 of garbage or not, that deep down inside you you know that what you're 231 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:52.119 doing is not kosher. Otherwise you wouldn't have called. And it's there's something 232 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:59.000 about validating that and screaming that from the rooftops and letting people know that that 233 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:03.079 I think is an important part of the marriage. But this sadly is becoming 234 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:07.400 more common. Rick. I'm getting more calls from people who say they're later 235 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.759 in life and because of social security and such, they don't want to get 236 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:17.119 married. But you know, God doesn't say do this because it's convenient and 237 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:22.880 it's easy, says do this. You know this, this is the purpose 238 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:25.720 and these are the laws currently And if you're going to look through scripture and 239 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:29.319 try and find a specific type of marriage or the laws or anything like that. 240 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:30.559 You're not going to find it in that sense, not going to find 241 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.640 it. You're not find anything. This is rick. This is how you 242 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.000 need to get married. But you definitely see my seal of approval on the 243 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:41.440 marriages and the things that took place. Those ceremonies become very important, and 244 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.759 it's not just for the ceremony's sake. It's for the sake of the individuals 245 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.599 in the ceremony to explore those and to really lock you in. If there's 246 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:55.920 humanity, and this is I'm sorry men more on you than it is on 247 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:00.759 women, although that those numbers sadly are changing. I like to have at 248 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:06.720 least one toe on the dock at all times. You know that kind of 249 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:10.160 attitude where it's like, well I always have an out, or you know, 250 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.759 she doesn't own me in this sense, or what have you. And 251 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:22.160 I think that that that kind of tentative attitude towards um, you know, 252 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:30.519 towards the relationship, I think is more detrimental than it is helpful. Tom. 253 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.680 Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. All right, Jesus, hi you 254 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.359 Tom? How can I helpen? I just had a it may seem like 255 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:42.079 a big deal, but maybe because it concerned Yeah, well, I'm not 256 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.480 traveling for my job and listener show. I go to a small little church 257 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:49.680 and we're real laid back and we just wear like flip flops and shorts and 258 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:53.559 a T shirt and sometimes we go outside and the weather's nice. I'm in 259 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:59.400 North Florida and I was at a party and somebody asked them what a church 260 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:00.480 you go to. The the guy said, oh, you go to that 261 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:04.799 hippie church. I'm like, well, I the hippie church because of because 262 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:08.039 of the way we were just so laid back. And he alluded to the 263 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:14.440 fact like it was like almost disrespectful because we don't dress up like his church 264 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:15.480 does. And I'm like, oh, I'm cool with that, man, 265 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.839 if that's what y'all want to do. I mean, but my question is, 266 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:23.440 I guess, is is it disrespectful because we don't dress up and I 267 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:27.480 don't even have a suit. To tell you the truth, I just tom, 268 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:32.960 I would be broken hearted if you weren't in church because you felt you 269 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:36.759 needed to wear a suit. And it sounds like a silly question. No, 270 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:38.480 it's I mean, it's not, and I'm telling you right now that 271 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:44.519 there are many people listening that are glad that you called um, I'll tell 272 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:48.519 you what I'm concerned about, Tom. I wanted to be a Bible teaching, 273 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.960 Bible believing church. Is it a Bible teaching, Bible believing church. 274 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:57.160 Oh yeah? And the other is just a koutraman. It's just stuff, 275 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:04.000 and it's it's not disrespectful as long as you come respectful. People were wearing 276 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:08.720 sandals in the first churches. I'll tell you that. So it's more a 277 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.640 matter of you know, the first churches were homes. We met in homes. 278 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:18.960 There weren't buildings with stained glass investments. There was on the Jewish side 279 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.279 of things, there were in temple. They had formalities, but if you 280 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.599 remember, I mocked a lot of the formalities in Scripture and was upset with 281 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:33.799 the fact the formalities tended to supersede the truth that was being taught. So 282 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.000 if it's so laid back that it's not even really teaching anything and it's really 283 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.839 about getting together and hanging out and having donuts afterwards, I have a problem 284 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.119 with it. But if it's a church that says, hey, come as 285 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.880 you are, We're all about the message and getting this message to you, 286 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.799 and we don't want you to wait till you have a suit. We don't 287 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.519 want you to wait untill you have time to do X, Y and Z. 288 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.400 You come as you are. Then I think that's glorious. I think 289 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.279 it's beautiful. But that's exactly what it is. Yeah, we're not hanging 290 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.799 out for the donuts, that's for sure, but we're I mean, it's 291 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:07.200 a it's it's just like what you just said. And by the way, 292 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.319 I tell everybody about your show that I think, oh, that's very nice. 293 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:12.920 I appreciate it. And keep in mind that you know, we grow 294 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.039 because you do things like that, and when you tell people about it, 295 00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:22.000 I really really appreciate it. But you as well, Tom, be at 296 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:27.000 peace, because the core of the church is scripture and what scripture is teaching, 297 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.480 and there are traditions that go along with it that are important, very 298 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:36.839 important. But I don't ever want you to lose sight of the purpose of 299 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.720 why you're there. And there's so many churches have gotten have lost their focus 300 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:47.359 and gotten on this hype about the appearance. And now there's stages. It's 301 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.960 not even you know, the standing behind the pulpit. Now it's like the 302 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:55.880 stage and there's this big show and there's a place for that. There's a 303 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.279 place for that. You want to reach as many people as you can, 304 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.839 and you know, modern day you have to be able to strike the same 305 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.759 chords or a chord that they can understand and they being the people in the 306 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.279 church, and there has to be different flavors. There has to be, 307 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.440 but as long as it's always you know, ice cream is a particular formula. 308 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:22.680 It's a particular thing that makes ice cream and otherwise it becomes frozen custard. 309 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:26.839 Otherwise it becomes frozen yogurt or these types of things, or a gelato 310 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.599 if you're Italian. Do that for you, Tony sitting in the other room. 311 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:37.680 So there's a specific formula it makes something ice cream, but the flavor 312 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.799 of the ice cream doesn't It doesn't keep it from being ice cream. It 313 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.279 just changes its flavor depending on the palette of the you know, the individuals 314 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:51.039 that are consuming it. So when it comes to church, I think that 315 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:55.160 it's very easy to get wrapped up in what you like and make that the 316 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:56.720 standard. Well, this is what I like to do. I like to 317 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:02.400 dress up. Some people like to um My producer Neil likes likes it split 318 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.200 down the middle. He likes to dress up and the formality of certain things, 319 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.400 and then on the other side, if he if he's not available to 320 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:12.519 do that on the very very very rare occasion that he steps into a church, 321 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.440 Yeah, I'm talking to you, um that that there's likes to be 322 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:25.039 casual as well, And there's just different flavors and things out there and you 323 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:30.319 should experience those as they speak to you. Some people like simple acoustic music 324 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:34.279 at a church. Some people like, uh, you know, electric guitars 325 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.680 and keyboards and full drum sets and all of those things. And that's fine 326 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.440 as long as it doesn't take away from the message, as long as it 327 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:47.640 doesn't take away from what's being taught and what's being said, because that's the 328 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:52.319 gathering. And when a church becomes what am I wearing? What are you 329 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.519 wearing? When it becomes those things, that becomes idolatry, and it stops 330 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.240 being part of the church, and it starts stops being reverence and respect for 331 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.799 God and becomes a show of a class system. And this is what I 332 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.400 make, and this is how much I'm worth. And look at the fancy 333 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:14.200 clothes I'm wearing. And that becomes a distraction of God too. So don't 334 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:17.680 you know people are gonna like it, and some people aren't. There's a 335 00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:22.839 church that might not be you know, everybody's taste. It's a very artsy 336 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:29.599 church, and in this particular church, there's a lot of creativity going on. 337 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.079 They encourage and people sit at tables rather than in pews or chairs, 338 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:38.160 and there's encouragement of drawing or writing during the service. There's also painting that 339 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:44.799 goes on that may not be your cup of tea. But if there's if 340 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.519 the Bible's being taught there and they're trying to find ways for people to express 341 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:56.200 themselves in that context, great. If it becomes a distraction or a problem, 342 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.240 then then it takes away from God. And you don't have the right 343 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:07.799 to take away that the spotlight from God. And some people don't like the 344 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.160 more relaxed churches. Broke my heart to hear Tom say, I don't even 345 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.759 own a suit. Could you imagine not experiencing God? Because you think that 346 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:22.119 away cloth is tailored, cut and sown is going to make a difference to 347 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.960 God. The important thing is the effort and the desire to seek God and 348 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:32.559 the showing the importance and the value of God. There. You can get 349 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:33.759 more suits, you can get more clothing, but I'll tell you the one 350 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.640 commodity you can't make more of his time. And to give God your time 351 00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:42.200 to go and to show that I'm here and I'm showing up and I'm with 352 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:47.599 you and I love you, and I want to hear about your love letter 353 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.319 called the Bible, and I want to listen to the things that you taught 354 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.640 and the things that you said. That's that's the beauty of it. Don't 355 00:29:53.680 --> 00:30:00.920 get caught up in the other things and and lose sight of the importance of 356 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:06.880 being in that place and connecting with God's people and connecting with God. It's 357 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.759 not a silly question, not a silly question at all time. You're listening 358 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.559 to kf I AM six forty on demand.