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Hello there, and welcome back to
the Disconnected. I'm here with Logan and

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Sam and they are from Air four
four four four. First off, is

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that how you guys actually say it
out loud or is there an easier way

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to say it? I think I
think four four four four is great.

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Sometimes, especially at the beginning,
I would always just say three four's and

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I would think I was saying it. But forty four to forty four is

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also good. That's an easy way
of saying it. Forty four to forty

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four perfect. I always stumble over
it when I'm trying to say it as

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quickly as possible. So so do
we. Well, First, just genuinely

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thank you guys for getting on here. I know that you guys have been

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literally very busy this weekend with a
launch of your newest wave of titles,

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literally just yesterday, so thank you
for taking a brief moment to step on

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and just share a little bit about
the company. I've been doing this for

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a while and you guys are probably
the youngest label that I've done one of

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these interviews with, and that's not
a bad thing at all, because all

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of your titles have been so high
quality so far. So first, what

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is the story behind air forty four? Forty four? Like, how'd you

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guys get into this? Logan?
You want me to take it away?

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You want to it honestly started off
as like a joke, really, because

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I mean, Logan and I have
been collecting for a long time. You

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know, it's been probably probably for
me over over five years. For Logan

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maybe longer. He's the grandfather in
this, in this friendship. And yeah,

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we were just joking around and like
talking about like just trash talking some

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like friendly trash talking some other labels
that we like and we support, and

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we were saying, like why why
does nobody release or why is there not

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a label that specializes in Asian films? Or what are some of these labels

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that specialize in all films? Why
do they not release more Asian films?

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And you know, we were talking
about just other stuff like Hong Kong and

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you know, films from Japan and
whatnot, and that that Logan I think

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I think it was Logan. Oh
no, what I think I forget it,

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but I think it was Logan.
He said we could just start a

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label, like let's just do it. Let's be the ones who like do

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that let's specialize in Asian cinam and
blow everyone else out the water who tries

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to do Asian cinema. And I
was like, what are you serious?

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And then he was like, yeah, you just said it. There's a

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market for it, let's do it. And then I was like, shit,

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okay, well we have to come
up with the name. And that's

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how kind of kickstarter from there,
you know. And of course we have

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like again a background of like just
being big like fans of like horror exploitation

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and just weird bizarro cinema. And
with that focus on Asian genre cinema,

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we've both always like kind of been
surrounded by a lot of Asian pop culture,

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or rather we've surrounded ourselves with it, been active about it and stuff.

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So yeah, that's that's basically it. Is there a certain film or

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films when you were younger that really
got you attached to the genre, that

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really set it all on fire for
you. Lookan, what do you think

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for you? I'm trying to think
of mine still too. I mean,

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like I I mean, I think
everybody grew up watching Godzilla runs on TV

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or just having VHS tapes from good
Will stuff like that, watched that really

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burned the tape out of that.
And then old Kung Fu movies, you

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know, dubbed and really bad but
really funny and and and you know,

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but knowing that there's actually like a
better version of those movies and that we

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kind of get the shittier ones because
they're cropped or they they're dubbed, and

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so we don't really get the full
story or the full effect of the actors

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and everything. So I mean that
kind of like really speaks to me,

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you know, trying to find those
films and trying to re release them too.

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What about you, Sam, Yeah, I mean I was, I

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was. Godzilla was the first thing
pot in my head. I think some

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of my earliest memories of like I
guess Asian, like pop culture Asian,

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like are you know, like movies
where Godzilla and then also like certain animes.

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I mean, I think, like
a lot of people in my age

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where I grew up watching like Naruto
and like you know, catching that on

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tsunami and whatnot. And then and
then the earliest I think, now that

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I think of it, they'll be
earliest for me because I had a cousin

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he he owed me very very young, and my dad he used to talk

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about Bruce Lee a lot. He's
my dad would talk to me about all

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the rated R movies, all the
more mature stuff. He would only tell

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me it through his dad filtered way, and he would say, oh,

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yeah, it's like very violent.
You can't watch it until you turn seventeen,

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you know, or whatever. And
then my cousin like one day we're

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hanging out, and then I talked
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Bruce Lee, like, yeah,
I have movies. We can watch it

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right now if you want, because
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cousin, so like he just showed
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It was Return of the Dragon Borne
with Chuck Norris, and I just

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remember having burned in my head the
fight between Bruce Lee and then like the

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people like outside of in the alley
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he works at that was ingrained.
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I guess moment for me because Bruce
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at that at that time, just
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scenes until later on when my dad
finally was like, here's my Bruce Lee

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like Va just collection. Okay,
now you can watch it. Yeah,

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bless your cousin, because I think
most of us have a story about at

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least one person like that that was
your your gateway where they you know,

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they wait for parents to leave and
then open their trench coat and say,

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check out these films that you're not
supposed to see. And it's it's so

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fantastic and also probably a little demented
how some of those original situations can really

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shape our taste for decades. And
it's so cool that this generation is now

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turning into a generation of people leading
these labels. So I don't know if

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you've been asked a question like this
before, but how how does it feel?

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Or have you even considered the fact
that your releases are now going to

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be possibly pedaled to the younger generations
as a gateway into some of these more

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extreme films heavy responsibility? Yeah,
I don't think we can won't discuss that

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at all. I mean, you
are gnuinely that type of an influence in

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in this hobby now, and I
mean that's a good first question to go

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off of. Did you guys expect
the immediate level of success that you seem

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to have with your first release.
Probably not. I mean I I would

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say like it's half and half.
I think I think there were there was

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definitely like a part of us where
especially leading into it, like the months

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of planning and doing the work and
watching the film and seeing also the film

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get cleaned up, and working with
Yoshi Hero for Anatomy Extinction. Oh sorry

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for for some people who may not
be familiar like Anatomy Extinctions gold we should

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be holding it. I've got them
already, I swear. Okay, thank

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you, you know, I appreciate
the supportant No, but yeah, and

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to the extinction, Uh, Yoshi
here in Nishimura's first film, and it's

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Token Goore Police, the prequel the
schematic to the Toko Goore Police, and

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yeah, we were lucky enough to
be able to work with him and stuff.

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So a lot of that kind of
was feeding us that confidence. But

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then literally like a couple of days
just before making it live, that's what

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we get nervous, and we're like, what if nobody buys it? What

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if it's just like okay, the
first day maybe like we were, we

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were gonna be happy if like a
hundred people bought it, you know,

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And so we were We were definitely
like very shocked. We were shocked.

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Yeah, I think it was shocked. I mean, we were super happy,

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but it was definitely a feeling a
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make or break like this could be. And and on top of that,

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we'll get into that later, but
it's also how is how will people receive

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it once they get it in their
heads exactly? So you know, yeah,

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looking back on when you released,
I think one of the hardest parts

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of the story is going to be
the fact that all of this happened during

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a global pandemic. So overall,
how did that affect you guys, because

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I'm sure it had to have been
a major thing, And obviously the first

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release was delayed slightly, So I
think the global pandemic it affected us in

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different ways. I mean, I
think on the one hand, it kind

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of pushed us to start the label
and to really kind of pursue this like

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full fledge. But then on the
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delivery time, like when we got
the materials in hand or before that prior

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to that, I think it also
affected us in a negative way because we

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had like delays and stuff because of
the global pandemic and shortages of different materials

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and things. So I think it
kind of hit us both ways. Gave

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us a hug and then smacked us
in the face. Yeah, I'm sure

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for people listening when they hear that
you were just collectors and joking around kind

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of formed a label on accident,
they are going to want to find out

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like were you just born with the
silver spoon in your hand, or how

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did this happen? Did you happen
to have tons of friends in the industry,

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or how did you get to that
next step after making that discovery that

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you really wanted to do it together? Definitely, I mean a lot of

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it is are the first release.
It's it's literally us digging into our parkings,

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like you know, like everything we
have savings. We're also this is

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also you know, people have taken
consideration. This is also us coming out

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of grad school. You know we
met in school together. Yeah, that's

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that's how we met. And like
this is both pursuing filmmaking degrees. Yes,

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that's fantastic, So so going to
film school. Not even like technically

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if you want to be technical about
we didn't even complete it. Fully.

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It was very weird because yes,
we got our diplomas and everything, but

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literally we had a shift from in
person to online like at the very last

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like quarter practically. So all that
there's kind of a lot of stress,

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a lot of pressure, a lot
of like not knowing what the future was

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looking like in terms of jobs,
in terms of all that, you know,

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and a little bit of I don't
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I would say, not a little
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So going into it, like I
really like, I have a supportive family.

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I'm you know, my family's middle
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he's like he's the one who who
earns the most money in my family.

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So he was very willing to like
want to loan me money, but

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I said, no, I don't. I don't want that. That's how

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I've always been, to be honest. So I dug into my own savings

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whatever that was, you know,
a couple of thousand, and put it

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down and logan similarly the same thing. Yeah, we're not rich at all.

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We're not rich all, so you
know that. So that's really just

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from our bootstraps, you know.
Yeah, I kind of figured the answer

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to that. I just wanted to
share because a lot of what I do

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on this channel is to try to
help the labels be transparent. And there's

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a lot of people in this hobby
that are really getting entitled. It feels

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like in kind of trying to assume
that these these things are either something they

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just or also on the other end, they feel like they're out of reach

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and in all reality, literally just
a passion for these films can get a

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lot of people there, and they're
just not taking those steps. It's sure,

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it's true. Yeah, yeah,
I guess anyone could really do it

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if they had the passion and they
worked really hard and put a lot of

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effort into it. And we're not
worried about not making money for a while,

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you know, like focusing more on
the titles, releasing films, acquiring

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more films, making sure they look
nice, you know, stuff like that,

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but not being scared to not really
bank anything for a good bit,

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good while, right, yeah,
anything major. Yeah, So acquiring those

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films is a good lead off to
the next thing. What was the reason

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to make Anatomia your your first release
that you were going for. I had

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seen it and it and that was
it's kind of a crummier version. I

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don't know where the version comes from
the internet, just from the internet.

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Just saw it on there and I
thought, hey, it would be really

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cool to release this, and I
told Sam and made Sam check it out,

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and then we just were like,
Okay, yeah, this could be

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a good first like a nice a
nice first one. So we just decided

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to go for it. And then, you know, Yoshihiro was really excited

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and he wanted to you know,
he was really eager to help us with

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special features and to you know,
help us with the restoration, you know,

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like because we wanted to do those
things, and he was he was

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just excited, you know, because
it's his first feature and not a lot

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of people have seen it. You
know, some little trolls like myself on

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the internet might have like come across
and stumbled upon it and seen it,

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but you know, for the most
part, a lot of people haven't.

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So it was it was really a
pleasure to work with him and to get

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it released, and he was he
was excited. It was you know,

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he's got a lot of energies,
so he gave us energy and it kind

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of worked off each other. Yeah, and it's also like, uh,

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sorry, I don't mean, I
don't know you're no, just I guess

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really quickly, just a piggyback.
Also from the perspective of like strategy and

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like if it's bankable, like we
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like the fact that nobody knows that
this is literally what what became Tokyo Gore

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Police, essentially like his idea that
because that's like the movie that everyone associated

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with them, you know, that's
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pulp fiction so to speak, you
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is like another big reason I was
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this is good, and we loved
the film when we watched it. Like

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when I never I didn't know about
Anteli Extinction. I was a big fan

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of usually Here already from Tokyo Gore
Police, but I didn't know anything about

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Antili Extinction. So when Logan pulled
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talked about it, I was like, I think this is this is a

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good idea. I think the coolest
part about that was when you equate the

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two, you can see a lot
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filmmaker in this film. So I
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and likewise kind of shows what would
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once you lead from that, you
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been clamoring for for quite some time
for a couple of these titles, and

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just recently I had on the channel
for an interview just like this Adam from

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Third Window, and you guys seem
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Adam and he's a great guy.

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I don't know if did he say
he loved us? Did he say good

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things about us? Yeah? Of
course off air we talked about it quite

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a bit. Yeah, he's great. Yeah, he's very helpful. He's

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very he's like he's like a coach
almost, you know. Yeah, you

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know, he gave his pointers and
gave us great and a little bit of

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a mentor. Yeah yeah, yeah, like a mentor. Yeah, he

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wrote us some nice emails and stuff
when he didn't have to. So,

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like like you were saying, some
of the label's heads might feel entitled and

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stuff at Adam was not like that. So you know, it was really

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nice to work with him. And
I mean Sam and I kind of made

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a list of movies that like,
we really really wanted to release, and

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for me, Funky Forrest was at
my top. You know, Forest,

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I really wanted to Warp because I
had never seen it. It only did

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film festivals back in twenty fifteen,
so I was like, we can uncover

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this. I'd be really excited.
So I you know, I quit.

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You could quit, that's what you
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He was like, I could quit. If we do, you get so

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lucky and you get your like dream
release to wanted like a film a grail

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of yours and the reason why when
Running Hill happens, you're gonna quit.

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Yeah, exactly, You're only going
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an interview. I mean, that's
that's great that you made the connection so

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quick to be able to get some
of those titles. Is there was there

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any sort of stumbling box blocks for
these first few that you guys got with

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with uh, Funky and Warp.
We actually went in solo and that was

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you know, I had reached out
and we were talking about it and then

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I don't know, it wasn't like
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We met him during the process,
Like we were already pursuing it from the

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US Canada, and he was we
didn't know unbeendown stunts. He was pursuing

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it from the UK. And then
there was another company, Spectrum, and

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they were pursuing it from France.
So it all kind of just came together.

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and let's split costs and stuff.
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easier because we all worked together and
everything. But I mean, finding certain

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finding certain films are really really hard, you know, like you really have

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to dig. Like Centipede and Red
Spills, for instance, They've been sought

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after for years, like we've been
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I mean like we've had conversations with
Massacre and he said, like OnEarth has

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been looking for it, and there
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what's the other one, Mondo.
Maybe Mando was looking for it at some

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point. So but you you know, it takes a lot of ding and

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stuff, and we didn't even know
if it was out there. But we

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you know, there were phones that
interested us, and we you know,

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we had watched them and really liked
them, so we really wanted to really

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dig so some are easier to find
than others. You know, it takes

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time. Yeah, you brought up
Hong Kong earlier, and I've been curious

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because we've not talked a lot to
any sort of label who's working currently in

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these major Hong Kong titles. With
the news and the current law changes over

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there, has there been any you
know, talks of like a mad dash

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to get some of these Hong Kong
titles before stuff is enacted or censored or

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anything. I have heard from some
people I know, like some friends and

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some people who have a little bit
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no, some other people in these
labels. I think there is this like

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a little bit like you're saying.
It's not something that I think has been

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vocalized by any label like you said, But I personally when I heard about

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that, because I do try to
keep up a little bit of what's going

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on over there, because obviously anything
Asian like you have to kind of keep

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up with anything from Asia. If
you're trying to realize Asian films, absolutely

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you have to be a little bit
aware of the climate. So no,

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for sure it is a worry because
they technically can from what I know from

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reading some of these of that new
law that passed in Hong Kong, they

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can technically censor whatever they want,
release a film however they want, destroy

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whatever they want. So definitely worried
us. But funny enough, we didn't

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even Centipede Horror and Red Spells.
It was out of the jurisdiction of China

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technically, and Hong Kong for that
matter. We didn't find it there,

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so you know, like that's the
thing, like, technically some of these

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films might not even be in China
or Hong Kong. But that also makes

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it trickier because you're you're some some
people might be. I'm not to say

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these labels aren't doing their job.
They probably are looking in the places we

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look too. It's just that it's
really about finding like somebody who works at

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that company and is involved with those
things, or just making phone calls to

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places you wouldn't think, you know. So yeah, but for sure that

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is a worry, uh, and
it's not for us. Hong Kong isn't

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the only country you want to specialize
in it, especially because we kind of

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since Asia is our kind of playing
playground, so to speak, right or

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a sandbox that we want to go
for all all sorts of countries and diversify.

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Uh, the catalog Hong Kong is
a means a lot for me because

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I love Hong Kong films. I
know Logan also same same with him.

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But even then, like I'm just
as as somebody who's a fan of Hong

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Kong cinema in general, I'm I'm
just happy that other labels are also releasing

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films that we, for example,
weren't even involved in reaching out to them,

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because as a fan, it makes
you happy to be able to own

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that film or whatnot that you couldn't
have for a long time. But yeah,

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yeah, again, I guess,
just to simplify the answer, yeah,

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it worries us a little bit,
but it's not enough for us to

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be like, Okay, we only
have to do Hong Kong, you know,

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because we'll be known as a Hong
Kong label. Then you know,

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a Hong Kong film label. Then
there's a hell of a lot more Asian

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cinema than most Westerners know about.
So I think that the pool is large,

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and yeah, I don't think it'll
affect any of you know, the

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prospects of a label necessarily, but
there's a lot of beloved films that could

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genuinely be lost. Yep. Yeah, that's a personal, like a personal

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concern as a fan of that of
Hong Kong cinema. Yes, that's like

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a big personal concern for sure.
Yeah. Well the next thing, I

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mean, you even just touched on
a bunch of labels after you guys,

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you know, notice that not a
lot of labels were putting out Asian cinema.

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Seems like the pandemic was the perfect
time to suddenly release all of the

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Asian cinema. Is there a lot
more competit behind the scenes for you guys?

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Now? Are you going towards like
a different pool than they are?

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I think a little bit of both. I think Sam and I talk and

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we're like, well, there are
some movies we're a smaller label, right,

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some movies we can find and we
can discuss about, but at the

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end of the day, it's not
feasible for us to release because there's a

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lot more deal making with the company
involved in stuff and such. So there

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were some that we were interested in, but then you know, other companies

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like eighty eight Films or something ended
up getting them and we're we're perfectly happy

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with that because you know, we
it just wouldn't work for us, It's

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not feasible for us. So we're
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some labels are putting out stuff,
but we also you know, we also

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fear that, you know, our
holy grails are going to get snapped up

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at the same time. But you
know, I think at the end of

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the day, are our films like
we are doing, like like we have

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other things coming that we have never
done before in regions that we've never released

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yet, so and a lot of
companies have not done this region. So

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we're really excited about that. And
we're going to try to dip our toe

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all over and do all different types
of films from all over. So I

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think we're a little different than some
because some are just doing Hong Kong right

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now, Hong Kong Kong, some
are doing some Japanese are just Japanese.

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But we want to kind of do
more of a mixture and different genres too,

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not just horror exploitation, but we
also want to do like sci fi

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if we can, or like we're
like, I have some titles that I

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really want that are more martial arts. Some action kung fu stuff that's coming,

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and like, I really want this
Kaiju thing because that opened up a

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whole other thing for us, So
like, I really want this Kaiju thing,

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So we're considering that. But yeah, we're a little different. So

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I think it's okay. It's exciting
and not to mention, I mean you

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bring in more fans that way,
You get more people interested in the label

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by not putting yourself in one tiny
little pocket, which is always important for

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the future of your success as well. And speaking of success, I mean,

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this one seemed to sell just as
quick if not quicker, than the

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first title, and it's really a
step up for collectors from the first title.

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I mean obviously with the type of
release, it is, the extras

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that you got with it, the
CD, the I mean everything. You

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guys are clearly coming at this as
collectors. Is there somebody that you're trying

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to emulate or are you trying to
go out there and kind of forge your

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own path. I guess I'll just
quickly kind of speak to the part of

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your question about the collectors and kind
of like, yeah, this label like

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one of the big parts of it, and we kind of always remind ourselves

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and ground ourselves is that it's like
collectors for collectors. You know, it's

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kind of like that's that's kind of
our motto, like whatever logan and I

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are like thinking of what type of
you know, packaging options, what type

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of artwork, and how we even
the collaborators, like are collaborators like artists

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or people contributing even essays or features, you know, like we try to

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push people like in a good way. You know, we try to like

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push them to make like some of
their best work, you know, and

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and like because we also know like
from from a commercials and and uh like

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strategic standpoint, like nice artwork is
gonna sell movies, you know, like

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even if for us though, like
these movies that we're trying to find the

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quality movies, but we want the
we want quality artwork to match. So

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because again, like nice artwork you
could sell shit and and they have like

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you know, beautiful artwork, uhlip
cover on top of it. So you

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know, like that's always something we
we talk constantly. So we want to

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make releases that we would want to
buy as soon as they are announced.

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That's that's how how we try to
go about it and handle each release we

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do so yeah, each each release
in terms of like a consistent kind of

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like packaging. It depends because like
boxes might be different. Maybe people will

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see that our materials get better.
Maybe like I'm not going to say they're

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gonna get super deluxe anytime soon,
but they could get better. Maybe the

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sipcovers will get better, you know. So it depends. We're always talking

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to new people, talking to new
companies you know here, Yeah, manufacturers,

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and you know, we're very we
keep an open mind, but we

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also again we're collectors. We still
collect movies. We are fans of a

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lot of these labels and we look
at them and we also get inspired by

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them. So that's a big part
of it. Yeah, I think even

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with these two that we that we're
pro ordering right now, it's another step

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up because we have like the rigid
box with the magnetic clasp thing, like

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we're trying to we want it to
be good, you know, and we

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want to take it up as high
as it will go without being too goofy

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I guess, you know, and
being too over the top, you know,

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adjusting not The art for this round
that you guys just put up for

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pre order is astonishing. It looks
like a beautiful release and I can't wait

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to have it in my hand.
So bravo on that, because obviously the

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films were already sought after by a
lot of people, but this just makes

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it that much more compelling. Has
it been a fairly successful weekend? Can

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you share? Yeah, I'd say
it's been very successful, Sam, how

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do you yeah? I mean no, I think I think this is our

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best release so far. I mean
that. Also, we did double like

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a lot of kind of you know, the numbers, so that and then

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bundles are very new to us,
you know, we this is our first

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time. It was for me,
I will say I was very resistant a

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little bit when because Logan's kind of
the one who brought up the idea of

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these bundles, and at first I
was like, I don't really know about

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that. And not to say that
it sunk other companies because for example,

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Severn, which were fans of Severn, they do bundles, you know,

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and a lot of people buy their
bundles. Their bundles sell out, so

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you know, we kind of,
uh, I guess, took a little

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bit of a page out of their
book and we got the inspired uh.

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And that's once like Logan kind of
convinced me about the bundles that we try

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to like come up with, Okay, how do we make every bundle kind

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of worth it for people? Because
also that's a part of it. For

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me, I'm like sometimes I look
at if I look at some of the

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bundles, not to say that Severns
are bad, it's just me. I'm

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the type of collector where it's like, you really got to sell me on

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like the bundles, like for example, like I've never bought any of like

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00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.359
the highest bundles from Severn. And
that's not to say that because I mean

411
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.079
they sell out. Maybe even if
I try, they probably still sell out,

412
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:48.759
Like so they do well, but
it's more like for me, it

413
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.279
needs to be something that's like it
has to be like, Okay, I

414
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:52.640
need that, I need that.
And that's kind of one of the reasons

415
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.279
I think, Uh, we went
ahead and did the bundles to kind of

416
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:02.000
one in some sense, to give
us that challenge and to experiment, and

417
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.160
it worked. I mean, it's
doing well, and again I think it

418
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:11.519
is our one of our It is
right now our fastest selling release. And

419
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.720
the numbers, yeah, the numbers
have been crazy, like yeah, we're

420
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:19.319
worth continuing to get surprised. Yeah. I do a live show every single

421
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:25.240
Thursday night to talk about announcements from
that previous week and talk about what's coming

422
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.559
the next week. And of course
you guys were the following day on this

423
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:33.839
last Thursday, and the comments were
just on fire about everybody excited about them.

424
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.920
I also have a Patreon on the
channel, and with that, I

425
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.920
have a discord where we all discuss
and we literally had a countdown and almost

426
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.880
every single person in our discord was
there right at launch, and pretty much

427
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:48.960
everybody bought one. So this has
been a very busy wave, I can

428
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:53.359
tell. So just kudos again because
everything is it looks beautiful. Thank you

429
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.920
for that, and thank you,
yeah, thank you for that, because

430
00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:00.119
I mean that's kind of like a
nice way of rallying people and trying to

431
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.599
get people excited over not just like
buying but movies, you know, like

432
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.880
getting people together watching these stuff because
a lot of a lot of people who

433
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.960
are buying these have never watched them, and we're like, that's one of

434
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.359
the things we're most excited for now. Now the this is a painful part

435
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.519
for us because it's like we got
to wait, because it's not just about

436
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.599
like you know, like having the
movies and holding on, and it's like

437
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.079
we have to wait too, you
know, for the manufacturing and stuff.

438
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.799
So we want people to see these
movies as fast as possible. We want

439
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.920
to hear what people have to say. We want to start seeing more of

440
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.640
these pop up on letterbox. You
know. That's that's one of the biggest

441
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.240
joys for me, at least,
I know, I'm pretty sure for Logan

442
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:40.519
too, But for me, that's
I love reading people's reviews, not just

443
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.839
about our release, but like the
movie itself, you know. That's I

444
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.799
love that. Yeah, on a
on a small scale, I love even

445
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.200
just recommending a movie to somebody and
they respond that it was a perfect home

446
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.680
run, Like this was exactly what
I needed. But you guys are literally

447
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.240
like programming for the entire world.
Most people have never seen some of these

448
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.440
titles, So for you to release
it is sort of what is going to

449
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.279
catch some of these on fire on
something like letterbox. That's that's a big

450
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.319
deal. I imagine that feels absolutely
great to see it take off. Yeah,

451
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.319
that's yeah. That's that's another thing
that kind of separates us from other

452
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.400
labels. Because we we do try
to go for films that are less lesser

453
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:23.640
seen, lesser known, you know, but if it's like amazing, you

454
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.720
know, or if it's really good
and people haven't seen it, like we're

455
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.119
like, oh, we'd really like
to showcase this. How can we showcase

456
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:34.480
this? And you know, yeah, we just want to do the best

457
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.400
we can. I think, like
my background, like I was always interested

458
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.519
in film festivals, programming for film
festivals. So this kind of like utilizes

459
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.480
that a little bit, you know, so we can like kind of hone

460
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:49.079
in. It's a much longer and
it's one movie, you know, and

461
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:52.640
you're putting all into the one movie, but you know, you get the

462
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.640
same kind of like excitement, you
know. And then the Christmas Day morning

463
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.400
when you know, everybody gets to
order it, or or when everybody receives

464
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.880
it and we start reposting on Instagram, you know, and everybody's like washing

465
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.160
tonight. You know, I'm excited. You know, it's really it's a

466
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.759
fun. It's like a communal thing, you know, we're all together,

467
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:15.960
so it feels really good. So
for anybody that hasn't been excited enough to

468
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.759
dive into these two new titles,
can one of you sell Centipede Horror on

469
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.599
why this is Somebody something that collectors
might love if they've never seen it.

470
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:31.799
You wrote the synopsis, Man Jesus, I think ceni feed horr is quintessential

471
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:38.480
Hong Kong Samuel Lloyd insanity. I
think that if you want the definition of

472
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:46.400
a the probably one of the holy
trinity of like gross up films. I

473
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:52.319
think centiped Horror has to be there. I think that anyone who likes kind

474
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:59.200
of supernatural like black magic horror has
to be there for this movie. I

475
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.079
think again, like just horror fans
in general will get a kick out of

476
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.319
this. I even think there are
some fans of like Italian cinema, like

477
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.119
Italian zombie cinema, maybe even Lucia
Fulci. A lot of that rotting imagery,

478
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:16.200
nastiness like faces like boils, bugs
everywhere, maggots everywhere with Centipedes.

479
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:19.839
So I think you have to see
it. It's like one of those movies

480
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.160
you have to see to believe it's
an experience. And again, fans of

481
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.000
horror like they're gonna feel at home. And I think it'll be a new

482
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:32.000
favorite, new found favorite for many
people and a good taste of for those

483
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:38.880
who haven't yet completely gone through the
door of like Hong Kong horror exploitation cinema.

484
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.160
This is gonna be, I think, a gateway for a lot of

485
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:47.680
people. So yeah, I think
also there's a famous quote from Tom Savigni

486
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.000
and he said at the time like
it was the grossest film he's ever seen

487
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.240
or something like that, So I
think that also sums it up a little

488
00:33:54.279 --> 00:34:02.799
bit for fans. Quote out of
what about Red Spell, Red Spells Great?

489
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.000
Red Spell is the lesser scene,
lesser known of the two for sure,

490
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:14.679
because ADFA released that that print thing
online and so some people were able

491
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.960
to see Centipede at the time.
But the subs were burned in and it

492
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.920
was really washed out because they added
late to it, so because there was

493
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:23.440
like a color burn and the print, so they added like a like a

494
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.920
flash like light to it. So
it was really washed out. And so

495
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:29.760
the subtitles were kind of bad already, but then there were kind of a

496
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:34.480
little extra back and the daytime scenes
they kind of blended in. But Red

497
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:38.000
Spells a lot of people don't know, but it is really really good.

498
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:46.119
It's really fun, it's insane.
It also has like a bug centric kind

499
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:52.239
of villain like of the film,
but it's also just it tries a little

500
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.159
bit of everything, you know.
There's like there's some possession stuff. There's

501
00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.800
like death death by film reel or
film stock, and like trees and leaves

502
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:07.960
and there's like there's just all kinds
of stuff. It's pretty fun. Yeah,

503
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.159
I don't know, I'm not good
at it. No, that was

504
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.599
good. That was good. I
know, I'm excited for it. You

505
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.280
you both have mentioned that you are
already going to be releasing pretty much what

506
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.320
was your grail? Is there now
a new grill title for each of you?

507
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:30.679
Oh, a new one? Huh? Yeah, yeah, that one

508
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.119
was right. I mean I think
there definitely is. I can't think of

509
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:38.280
something off the top. I mean
for me, it's definitely like I it

510
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:40.960
has to be from Hong Kong.
For me, it has to be For

511
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:50.679
me, it will probably be either
it's there's a Anthony Wong Category three movie

512
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:55.639
that is not obviously not ontold story
and it's not a Bullus indro. But

513
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.320
I personally think it's the third It
should be the third one. It's not

514
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:01.480
a lot of people know, but
it should be like if if the Holy

515
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:08.239
Trinity of Anthony Wong's like just disgusting, you know, nasty psychopath performances.

516
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:13.599
I think the third one should be
Loved to Kill, which came out in

517
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.400
the nineties as well. It came
out, if I'm not mistaken, following

518
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:21.760
on the heels of Untold Story.
So he's like, it's almost like he

519
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.000
stumbled off the set of Until Story
and he's like, Okay, what do

520
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.199
I do? Like who do I? Who do I kill? Like,

521
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.559
you know, it's kind of like
that's literally how he's acting and Love to

522
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:35.199
Kill. So I think people who
love Ebolle Syndrome and Until Story will also

523
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.679
love Love to Kill. That's that's
a big grail of mine. But I

524
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.840
I mean, right now, I
can't say anything about that because unfortunately there's

525
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.760
nothing to say. But that's a
grail of mine for sure. Yeah,

526
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.079
I don't know, Logan, what
about you. I have a whole list

527
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.840
on Betterboxed, like our Dream releases. It's like Dream Releases and I adam

528
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.599
in, you know, like I'm
like, oh, this one, all

529
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.519
this one, you know, and
we've hit up a bunch a bunch of

530
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:01.599
these we've up and we were able
to find some and we're still working on

531
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:06.599
some which is cool. I don't
know. I mean, like, I'm

532
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.760
really excited about some that we're that
we're like working on right now, that

533
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:16.960
that we're pursuing right now that we
have, but I don't have any like

534
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.960
I don't have a title in my
head that I'm like, Oh, this

535
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.960
one is the new grail. But
it's kind of like some of the ones

536
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.760
we're working on now is kind of
a grail. And we were talking earlier

537
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:34.679
today about interviewing an actress and how
she's in the US and how we're gonna

538
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.599
we're thinking about traveling and meeting her
and interviewing her and how how that's you

539
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.519
know, another another new kind of
thing for us. So we'd be really

540
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:45.199
excited to do that. So that's
kind of like that's my grail right now.

541
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.840
I think meeting her with a new
grail. And I think it'll be

542
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.440
a grail for Sam too. I
know he's excited if it does come to

543
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.320
cruision. So that's really cool.
Actually, yeah, oh it works out.

544
00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:00.679
The other major difference so far is
with Centipede whoorr and spell. You

545
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:05.000
guys are putting out an animal cruelty
free version. Is there a reason you

546
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:09.000
made that choice or did something cold
for that. I'm glad. I'm glad

547
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.360
you brought that up, because I
actually I wanted to bring that up a

548
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.000
little bit. No, yeah,
I mean we kind of took a page

549
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:22.360
out of Grindhouse Releasing and we I
love Cannibal Holocaust and I love Cannibal Fairrox.

550
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:28.079
I love a lot of Italian horror
films, and I something that thought

551
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.559
was really neat was that even though
I'm also the type of viewer to view

552
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:38.400
the original version of the film Cannibal
Holocaust, even our repeat viewings, for

553
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.079
example, is still a film you
have to be mentally prepared to watch each

554
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.400
time you watch it. So and
I've seen it multiple times, so it's

555
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.480
like I still have to be in
a space on my state to watch it.

556
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.119
So it's nice to have that option
because if I don't feel like having,

557
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:57.519
you know, these these animals killed
in front of me, but I

558
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.000
don't have to, I can watch
a different version of it. So that

559
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.719
was something we thought of because Red
Spell in particular, out of these two,

560
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.320
has a lot Unfortunately it's regrettable,
and that's also but it's it's good

561
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.760
to address it because people have to
realize the time. This is coming from

562
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:20.880
the eighties, and in Cannibal Holocaust
was fucking oh my gosh, it's horrible,

563
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.679
And forgetting it's it's eighties as well, right or seventies. Sorry,

564
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.320
it might be late seventies. It
might be late seventies. I can't believe

565
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.599
forgetting it's been it's been an ages
since I've since I've watched Cannibal Holocaust.

566
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:37.960
But with exploitation cinema and grindhouse cinema
starting like around like the late sixties and

567
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.199
moving into the eighties, that was
a way to put butts in seats.

568
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:46.639
Unfortunately, with exploitation cinema it was
like animal cruelty was a cheap shock tactic.

569
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:51.320
So yeah, yeah, that's like
it was. It was nineteen eighty

570
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:52.920
by the way, I just checked. There we go right on the cusp.

571
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.239
Yes, So yeah, so you
know that was a part of it.

572
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.559
And and there's a lot of people
who are i mean instead of that

573
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.760
understandably, So so you know,
we felt the need to do that as

574
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.840
just as just an extra feature,
an extra option. So yeah, we're

575
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:14.719
not trying to like change the films. We're just trying to alter or like

576
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.920
offer an alternate cut. For those
who don't necessarily want to see an animal

577
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.920
get murdered in front of them and
hear the squeels or whatever it is.

578
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.840
You know, so it and for
these films, my opinion, the animal

579
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.840
violence, they don't really change the
plot or anything like that they're trying.

580
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:36.079
They're kind of just in there just
for shock value or whatever. So I

581
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:37.599
mean, if you want to watch
it with you can. You don't want

582
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.719
to watch it with that, you
don't have to. So that's all it

583
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.760
is. We're just trying to give
the best viewing experience for everyone, and

584
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.480
like you know, give people like
no excuse to watch these films. You

585
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.079
know, we want to. We
want to be able to share them with

586
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.159
you, no matter what. I'd
almost say for most films around that time,

587
00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:00.480
they didn't ever really affect the plot
all that much. I mean canniballl

588
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.840
Holocaust obviously it sort of does,
but for the most part, like when

589
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.280
a bullet syndrome came out, I
first of all, I watch every single

590
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.079
movie with my wife, and my
wife is sensitive to the animal killing,

591
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.960
and a bullets in Droome opens with
the frog killing. I totally forgot and

592
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.440
she was like, that's not real. Is it, I went, well,

593
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.480
actually, so now and I'm sure
you guys have heard of it.

594
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:28.199
There's a website called Doesthdogdie dot com, so I'm more, Yeah, it

595
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:30.800
tells you, like basically, it's
a list of trigger warnings for every single

596
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.760
film. For like, that's awesome, and there's an actual assault, if

597
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.639
there's an animal that's killed, certain
phobias, if there's something else. Wow.

598
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.280
So I I checked that out for
my wife before every single film now

599
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.079
and just say, hey, this
this might be in here, just awarding,

600
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.840
and if she's not filing that that
night, I choose something else that's

601
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.800
awesome. That's awesome, I mean, because me, the old fashion way

602
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:54.880
feels like you go to IMDb and
then there's like the parents wal you know,

603
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.960
you know what I mean, you
get into sometimes I'd read them for

604
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.000
fun movie. I'm like, let
me see how they wrote it, you

605
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:06.719
know, Like some of these,
I mean, I've got a five year

606
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.320
old, well an almost six year
old and a seven year old, and

607
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.039
some of these movies like Little Monsters, I'll look up something to show them

608
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.679
and I'm like, well, this
doesn't sound too bad, and I watch

609
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:17.519
them like, well maybe that was
a little a little rougher than I remember.

610
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:21.239
So it is nice to have a
website like that that you can go

611
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.199
to. Yeah, let's see.
I mean this this release has been huge

612
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.360
for you guys that you announced a
couple other things coming soon. Do you

613
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.239
happen to have a timeline on the
next wave maybe, I know you're in

614
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:35.480
the middle of this one, so
that's a little intimidating, probably, but

615
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.880
well, Sam and I have been
just discussing it worth I mean, we'd

616
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:44.280
like to get two more out before
the end of the year. We'd like

617
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.719
to get two more out before just
the end of December. That would be

618
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:54.599
great. Yeah, we have we
have like different avenues we can take with

619
00:42:54.679 --> 00:43:00.440
that, two of which have already
been announced running Killing Red, Read to

620
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:06.320
Kill Right, and then we have
other ones that were kind of like disgusting.

621
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.119
Maybe these will be faster, maybe
we can get them out sooner,

622
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:14.320
but we also don't want to jeopardize
like the quality of the release. You

623
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:15.880
know they are working all that,
because you know, it does take time.

624
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:19.599
I mean, from the moment we
announced Centipede and Red Spells, it

625
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.400
was a year to now, you
know, to actually get it out,

626
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.239
So it takes time. You have
to be willing to, like, you

627
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:30.239
know, hold your breath and work
through it. But I mean, you

628
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.559
know, the wheels are turning and
we're we're going to try to get them

629
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:36.199
out. We're not the biggest label, but if we can, if we

630
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.599
can make sure, if everything looks
good to us and we're we're satisfied with

631
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.280
everything, I think it could be
by the end of this year, you'll

632
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.320
see too at least two more titles
from us. Yeah. Nice. Uh.

633
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.000
There's not a lot of stuff on
the internet about Air forty four or

634
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.039
forty four yet, because there's only
been a handful of releases. Is there

635
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.360
anything that the public doesn't know about
you that you'd like them to know?

636
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:02.280
Sam, You're left handed, right, I wish I wish I could do

637
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:08.840
both. I wish I was ambidex
to know about the label or about us.

638
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:15.119
Yes, either way. Oh m
hmm, your deepest, darkest secret

639
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.599
about the label. I mean,
I think I wrote a nice new bio

640
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.480
on the on the website. Yeah, I did see that. Did you

641
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.159
see that? That's pretty good?
Right? Yeah it is. I've literally

642
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:29.719
got it all right here, named
after the unlucky nature of the number four.

643
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.239
Yeah, everything, it sounds great. I'm really excited for somebody sci

644
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:38.519
fi films because a lot of those
have never had releases anywhere. Yeah,

645
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:44.079
I feel like those are vastly underrepresented
from the Asian side. M hm,

646
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:50.679
yeah, it's intriguing. Yeah,
I guess I was gonna say the only

647
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.320
the only thing I guess I can
say to people is kind of like we

648
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.000
were, we want to go bigger
in the sense of like we want our

649
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:05.840
releases to kind of also embody our
growth. We want to do more experimental

650
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:09.639
stuff with our releases, and maybe
like this is way in the future though,

651
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:14.199
this is like goals of ours.
Like I always joke with Logan,

652
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.840
I would love to have steel books
of some of these crazy he wants to

653
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:21.679
do steel books, but he won't
do like what is that thing, metal

654
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.800
packs, because there's a difference.
There's like a metal packs. Yeah,

655
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:27.760
there's a big, big difference.
It's a difference because you know, metal

656
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.480
packs are weird with the spine,
weird, and then steel books is like

657
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.639
nice looking, you know. It's
like so that's why I heavy we are

658
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:37.800
always arguing about that, but I
think metal packs are cheaper or something like

659
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:42.320
around though I don't expect us to
really do metal packs. I just I'm

660
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.800
just talking with them, just like
I'm just like texting on this and he's

661
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.440
getting all acci, that's a pipe
dream. Steel books are pipe dreamingline cool,

662
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.320
well the hard part and a lot
of people that are just a part

663
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.800
of this hobby don't understand that if
steel books you usually have to print like

664
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:01.719
at least three or four thousand with
somebody sprinters, which is crazy. Yeah,

665
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.960
and that's the reason why we haven't
done it yet because it's like a

666
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.239
lot of numbers. But then like
also per unit, it's it's more expensive

667
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.920
than you know, a blue ray
case and a slipcase or whatever. It

668
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:16.039
is. Absolutely, but trust me, like trust us like we I was.

669
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.679
There were times where I start I
was like, maybe we could do

670
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.280
uh what if we did the steel
book of Red Spell but the tie art

671
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:27.519
and like imagine how gorgeous that was. You know, it's kind of like

672
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.880
having those conversations and knowing it's not
going to happen, but just daydreaming.

673
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.639
And again that's why that's how you
know, like where we're coming from in

674
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:38.760
our background and how we were collecting
physical media. Because we're even talking about

675
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:44.320
all these dreams of the packaging and
stuff, and it's not it's it can't

676
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.239
happen. Now, that's like a
goal, you know. That's like kind

677
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.960
of if we could do what Arrow
does, where they can do steel books

678
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.360
and they can do this, and
they can do that beautiful for all the

679
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:58.079
same title, they'll they'll do five
different versions. That that's maybe not maybe

680
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.920
not that, but you know,
I just had a discussion on here with

681
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:07.559
somebody from Scotland actually about premium releases
because I don't collect all of them because

682
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.639
I would be bankrupt tomorrow. But
there are so many Asian companies that do

683
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:17.000
these these massive collectors editions, but
nobody in the US is doing it.

684
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:22.039
And I mean, maybe that's the
niche that you guys can can go for

685
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:24.239
someday because there's a lot of collectors
here that are after that. That is

686
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.280
true, we could do something like
that. I have the time Sam into

687
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.159
it. I think Sam's would be
more on the fence, but you know,

688
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:35.280
I think in the future. I
think definitely in the future, like

689
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.199
once you know, we're more a
little stacked up, a little beefier,

690
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:45.079
like yeah, sure, we've been
to the gym a little next year exactly

691
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.880
one veil like something crazy. Yeah, but no, I mean we're familiar

692
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.960
with what you're talking about because I
have a handful. I can't. I

693
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.920
can't either, like you said,
I literally have five or six exactly exactly

694
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.199
like uh for some of my like
favorites. But if you did want the

695
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:05.280
one clicks, like the one click
with like the three slip covers and the

696
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.480
three steel books, like it's ridiculous, you know, I think you've got

697
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.239
to be you have to have money
to throw away to do that. So

698
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.039
yeah, but they're they're cool.
Like I got to give them props because

699
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:17.559
they are creative. A lot of
their packages, I mean in some ways,

700
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.920
like if you're buying the sink,
just the single slip with the steel

701
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:22.400
book and all the stuff inside,
it's kind of worth it, especially if

702
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.960
it's a favorite of yours. They're
nice, you know, so like I

703
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:29.320
wanted to, I guess I could
give a shout out to a company because

704
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.760
I love a plain archive. That's
the one. They're beautiful. I think

705
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:36.119
they're one of the like OG's in
in the whole thing. I love them.

706
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.960
They're they're packaging to me is like
kind of like that's kind of something

707
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:43.480
I aspire, like I think they're
they have beautiful, gorgeous packaging. And

708
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:47.039
when I remember when uh, we
got the prototype for the Funky Forest and

709
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:51.800
Warped Forest the outer part of the
box, it kind of gave me a

710
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.519
little bit of that feeling. I
don't I'm not going to compariselves the plain

711
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:57.119
archive, but it gave me a
little bit of that premium field and I

712
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.320
was like, I like this,
you know, I like this exist for

713
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:01.840
us. So when we felt that, we were like, oh that we're

714
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.239
moving in the right ga. Yeah, like we're going up, We're going

715
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:09.880
up. Yeah, the outer box
being embossed, it genuinely does feel a

716
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.880
little bit like that. Yeah,
I can see that. Yeah. Yeah,

717
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.920
we're trying. We're trying to already
like kind of challenge ourselves to step

718
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:21.079
up with like like that we want
to do a chipboard box before steel books

719
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:25.079
will dive into chipboard. I think
that's the next thing that we've been discussing.

720
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:29.960
There seems to be a whole bunch
of different types of markets in the

721
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.320
US that nobody's addressing. I mean, media books is one of them.

722
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.639
I don't know if either of you
collect media books, they would be sweet

723
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:40.119
for us releases of these. I've
discussed this with He's like against it.

724
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.719
I'm trying. I'm like, come
on, let's do it, baby,

725
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.280
and he's like it's complicated. Look, I mean like we could get into

726
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:52.000
this for hours on end because the
thing is right. The thing is like

727
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.920
when you offer these types of first
off, like yes, people there,

728
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.320
I think a lot of people of
media books and people are starting to come

729
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.840
around you. Collectors are starting to
catch up to that because I follow groups

730
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.480
on Facebook and stuff that are dedicated
to media books, for example, and

731
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.639
there's a lot of us people in
those groups, and there's collectors who literally

732
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.639
just buy media books and it's I
mean, I love a lot of media

733
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.280
book companies and what they do.
The only thing is here. I feel

734
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:22.719
like media books can get really pricey, you know, and and I don't

735
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.840
think everyone is yet sold on like
how it looks. I think like once

736
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.480
once you look at them enough,
once you buy a couple and you start

737
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:32.159
seeing like what the appeal is,
Okay, you you get hooked. But

738
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.519
it's I feel like, personally,
I feel like it's not yet at a

739
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.519
place where it's like everyone's like everyone's
owning media books. I think there's a

740
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.800
lot of Yeah, there's a lot
of collectors who I don't think own a

741
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.519
single media book, you know,
So that's just my thought. You know.

742
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:49.840
I get it though, because a
lot of them the print on the

743
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:53.320
insides in German, so that there's
unless you're holding up Google lens to it

744
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:57.480
the whole time. Yeah, yeah, exactly, I've done that. I've

745
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.000
done that. I have as well. I mean I try to read it

746
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.280
every single thing on all these releases, and it's time consuming, especially on

747
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:10.000
those well, Sam Logan, I
genuinely again want to thank you for your

748
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:13.960
time. I think that this will
be very enlightening for a lot of people.

749
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.760
I think that you guys have a
long road ahead as long as the

750
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:21.679
quality of these titles are coming out
like this, and seemingly more and more

751
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.480
people are jumping on board. So
congrats for that, and here's so many

752
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.559
more. Thank you, Thank you, Roy, Yeah, thank you for

753
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.880
having us. Thank you appreciate it
for having us. Hope in the future

754
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.360
you'll be happy to come back and
we'll talk then. Oh absolutely, yeah,

755
00:51:35.440 --> 00:52:01.440
let us know on you tell me, you know,