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What a show we have youth tonight. But first let's introduce, shall
we the members of the posse girls, get ready, you know the drill,
sit down, get your fan going, get your mystic going, gets
big box cleanings and your ex and big box of wives. Because he is
here, the very famous one one. Hey baby, Hey Mac Cassico.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, all ships that see, welcome to the show.
It's gonna be a good one, saying, I mean, I think
there would be kind of funny tonight. The title of tonight shall could be
finding Bigfoot? We finally found Bigfoot? But yeah, google that. It's
an Yeah, it's it's an off. He had joke though, So anyway,
speaking about jokes, No Coco tonight, Coco's on a secret mission.
Sorry is he really has been? He's been texting me all day with his
middle aged girls women. Um, I don't know him. I get more
stuff from him when he goes on a secret mission. He sends me stuff.
It's crazy. Yeah, I say right back to me and says,
should you be sending me of this stuff? You know it's unclassified class right
your eyes only it's it's bizarre. Yea. Now they can track him now,
yeah, we can find him in about thirty minutes with all the stuff
he sends us. Anyway, that voice you just turned as our natural correspondent
switch played Steve Wood, switchy, how you doing up there in battle quick
Michigan. It's great to be here with the Skeleton crew tonight, m Skeleton
crew because Coco isn't here. What are you trying to say? Well?
Yeah, usually there's like the boxes being this is zoom or filled up with
about twenty twenty five people. That's four boxes, all right there maybe a
few surprised guests later on. Really and do you know something I don't maybe
listening hang on, it could be bigfoot anyway, it's it's he's on the
list. Look, security chief is here tonight, so we have to be
good. Willie Club Beautiful Mathuin Massachusetts. Willy, how are you doing great?
Mac? It's good to be here. Good to be with you folks.
And I wanted to remark on switch map he's got on tonight. Whatever
that is top of the go poth in it. It's nice around the front.
Are we talking about the head though? The hairdo? Yes? Okay,
yeah, it's not a rug tonight. It's obviously spent some money on
that. I was gonna say it's Tuesday. Actually it is a rug tonight.
It doesn't do anything with my hair today, so I just put the
rug on. Put the rug great, right, good? Yeah. It
is like Frank Sinatra, the one he had, Remember that one when he
used to remember to put it on. Oh, Frankie, you know,
I hate it. He didn't go well, you know what I mean.
He went the white title way. You know what I mean. Frank Sinatra.
Yes, yeah, his last concent He've got all the words and stuff
like that. Well, that happen when you, you know, when you're
a big star for Brazilion years. Well, when he started singing I've got
you under my House Wizard of Oz. Yeah, speaking of old crow news,
how's Tony Bennett doing? Oh who knows? Yeah, yeah, he's
all right. He's got Alzheimer's buddy, what a hundred years old? Right
or whatever? Right? And he said he's had it for a few years.
Right, he has been forgetting other words, his wits about him.
Apparently he can still sing in a musical without microphones. You know that.
That's that's a kind of voice he hands. That's amazing, um Or he
could listen. This is definitely, once again an addition of Beauty and the
Beast because up there in upstate New York. I don't know why I always
have to kind of locate her a GPS wise our favorite which good? Which?
The very lovely Raven is with us? Raven, how are you doing?
Hi? It's so good to be here as usual. Thank you for
having me. How you doing, Raven? Well, good to see it,
good to see it, good to talk to you. We um,
as they say in the bid, we got a care package from Raven this
weekend. I mean speedball is what cocoa call. I think she's about to
get us and not quite that, but dropped off some regional beer and uh
one one testing him out tonight. She just have a security guard to pick
up this stuff and deliver it right cross state lines too. Wow. I
know this stuff should be illegal, but let's press on. So tonight we're
gonna be talking to later on time, we're gonna be talking to our good
friend Jesse Quanzi. He is an Iraqi war veteran and he runs a podcast
called Mudpie Podcasts. Um he lives up in Colorado or wyre Homing somewhere up
in the Great Northwest kinda. He lives in a town so small that the
cops call everyone when there's a bear in town to everyone get in the corn.
Okay. And so he's gonna be telling us about an interesting guy that
he talked to on his podcast a few months ago and abduct a really crazy
story. Jesse Quanzi will be joining us later on. I'm gonna be doing
us a couple of special reports. Um, switchy, you have a fringe
report, right, what's it about? Yes, I do, Okay,
It's going to be about William Corliss. William Corliss. It was known as
sort of a modern day Charles Fort. And of course Charles Fort was the
guy that wrote the Book of the Damned and Low and so forth back around
the turn of the last century, and where he put together all kinds of
reports of anomalous phenomena auto scientific journals, things that were damned by science.
So and he's a people like even John keelso we talked about all the time,
describe himself as a Fortian after Charles Fort. And so William Corliss is
much more recent but he wrote he was a scientist, he was a I
think I think a physicist and a writer. And he's I've got about six
or eight of his books. They're they're phenomenal. But he does the same
thing. He even actually used some of the same sources that Charles Fort did
for some of his material. But all kinds of anomalous geology, ancient structures,
atmospheric phenomena, arooris and so forth, late phenomena. He covered it
and he documents it. Yeah, that's cool. Just he was just did
a lot of great work. Well that'll be coming up later on folks.
So why don't we do this? Why don't we go to Switchy. We've
talked to We've introduced everybody Switchy. This is the part of the show that
everyone is very interested in. What did you have for breakfast? This mind?
Now? Before you we answer? Last week, Um, he had
a chocolate Sunday. Do you remember that? I do? Yeah, choclate
Sunday for breakfast and a cherry without a cherry, And we said that was
gonna be another show. But so so what can well, how can you
top a chocolate Sunday for for for breakfast? So let's go up. You
have a question, Mac, and I don't want to be disrespectful with just
the fans at all, but I'm just wondering what what what type of fan
looks forward to this part of the show. You know what I mean?
That's exactly Sunday Sunday fans. I apologize, you can you can take that
out in post, right fan the fans that have well, you read the
if you read the emails, you'd see what kind of fan both and then
I will there's a lot of that out of way. Wow, well before
you tell us switching before you tell us? So what are you trying to
say? Are you saying that people? Well, I don't know. I'm
not sure that if I were a fan of a radio show, yes that
I would be waiting breathlessly to find out what some Jerry actor cad for breakfast
Jerry Act and Wow, holy listened, switch stop picking up my friend middle
age guy. But I think I was pushing the middle aged middle age.
I have a question. We're all teenagers. When does middle age begin and
end? Why do you ask? Why would you ask? What I'd like
to be call myself middle aged and a Jerry actor that that ship has sailed
that switching currents. I hate to be the one to tell you. All
right, so can we get back that that Chips sailed middle age? Have
you had your middle aged crisis yet? I think so I did, but
I did everything late in life. Have you have you bought a clove?
H? He's bought a rug. He's bought a rug? Have you bought
a club vet? Oh? Or how about the new electric you get a
Karmidia again? But I used to elect those Yeah, Maxwell Smart man bumpers
on it. Maxwell Smart traded in his uh uh the Sunbeam Tiger for a
common Gia. Yes, I forget which season that happened, but I was
shocked. Raven, if I can just give you a secret message, we
have found Bigfoot. Okay, it's official twenty two minutes into the show.
Okay, I have anyways in the backyard. I'll make sure the brewery knows
right. Yes, tell him. It was quick acting, so switchy,
let's go to you. Let's now there's better And we did a big tease
here, so you better. I had like a steak and eggs like an
astronaut breakfast tang, so don't disappoint us. I thought about that and I
had a couple of interesting breakfasts earlier in the week and last week, okay,
last week, but I decided to go with a little bit of fiber
this morning because I had a Sunday last time. What do you like him?
You met him? Muse guys. I tried to avoid that. You
know, it's kind of that way. They know you're a geriatric raving for
old people. Yeah, see, we don't. We didn't want to get
down this road, Raven. I'm so sorry. I don't know anything about
what they're talking about. I'm entertain all about the fiber, guys. Okay,
so this better be really good. Well, well, what I did
was again, you know, Sunday last time, I need to have at
least a little bit of fiber. But then I don't want to do something,
you know, crazy like uh, I don't know, shredded wheat and
oh oh god. Yeah, so I had old standard sugar frosted flakes.
He's got to be some five hands of flakes somewhere. You bet it's in
there with all that sugar. That's what I say. It's nine percent sugar.
Yeah, two percent milk good stay good for you. Hot black coffee,
huh okay, yeah, good for you. This witch in a heaping
bowl too. I didn't skim to the heating bowl of sugar frost pour milk
on it overflows the bowl, right, it just splashes right. No,
no, you don't. Don't put it too much milk and you'll destroy that's
see, that's where you are wrong. You have to put a lot of
milk on cereal. These people who you eat it as a snack, which
right out of the box. Yeah, well, I mean years ago one
one used to bring in family boxes of frosted flakes to the show and we
used to eat it out of the box. We need it, right,
yep, you know, lick our fingers too, like our fingers and then
you imagine that I need to know that. Yeah, I know, right,
t M I so listen, so um do that at parties, right,
you get chips, you know, and double dip the chips or the
fingers and then and then grab the book. Remember bark peanuts. Remember that
bowls of peanuts on the bar you don't want to eat. Have no idea
whose fingers were in it before you got it? Yeah, yeah, there
was some collars at bartender would be coolly dump it out and fill it with
First, see, there was some some college did a study I can't remember
it, and they and they like took some bob peanuts and they took mints
that people take at the cash rider step and they studied them and they would
cover it with like you know, germs and bac terrrian faces the war.
Don't eat any of that stuff. Okay, but we did. Uh yeah,
and we were. You were healthy for it, well not me.
No, builds up your immunity, how it doesn't really okay herd immunity?
Can you know, walk around with the cows? How how tall is bigfoot?
I'm seeing like about a nine foot for you guy right now? Right,
he's a big boy. He's at least over eight feet. Oh wait,
the beers nine percent, so he's got to be at least yeah,
that's right, that's my mouth. Who should get them for us? Okay?
So anyway, do we know what switch had for breakfast? What did
he have? Let's run a Q is frosted flakes. Frosted flakes, so
he pulling frost flanks. Okay, this is this is a segment called have
you been paying attention? Have you all right? Listen? Well, when
we shipped over to the next I thought I was gonna say, O,
I have for breakfast? Really yeah, with honey. By the way,
Oh listen, I'm glad you brought me into honey. We're all into honey.
The thing about oatmeal is I love oatmeal on the morning, but there's
so much, so many cobs in it. You're hungry like an hour.
Yeah, that's the pro boom. I mean Pharmers kitchen. Yeah, you
gotta eating pancakes. That's the trouble with cobs. But anyway, you're listening
to mcmoney's Milt Track South Show the nutrition segment here on NPR. We'll be
right back. Okay, listen, we're gonna do a bit now. As
they say on the show, Uh, Willie Club is a security chief.
He's the one who receives receives all our email, all our fan mail,
all our packages. And I hear that there's been an avalanche since the beginning
of the year. Willie. Correct, Well, I gotta tell you,
mac is Uh, I don't know what it is. You know, maybe
you know just this time of the year people like to send little notes in
But okay, as you as you asked, I went through the listener email
inbox today. Yes, a significant amount of items, just just in the
last couple of weeks. But you asked me to look in there to see
what the kind of things Raven was getting ravens from her fans, right,
Yes, I went through that. I have to admit there were a lot
of them that I would consider a little too friendly Raven. Yes, can
we study those off me? I really couldn't include them in this. Are
their pictures out of videos? I am, they say it, but but
they have little gestures and things. See that's not right, that's inappropriate.
You know, I've got a lot of responsibility to keep this stuff club.
They didn't violate the people Code, did they? They say, see switchy
with that Midwest human. Okay, so anyway, these are what something like
top five fem letters in the past couple months. Well, you said,
try to get at both five of them. My head, no trouble getting
five. Like, like I say, the ones that were very friendly you
were firing and you know in advance of this. But okay, anyways,
let's go through and uh we tell you what's going on with our listeners.
Okay to the show's one. Yeah, first one is dear Raven. I'm
a big fan of yours, and I would like to propose marriage to you.
Full disclosure, I'm already married, but I'm a Morman, so it's
cool. Mitt Romney, Yes, listening to the show. I'm upset she's
in Okay, all right, wow, Okay, next, I guess the
next moment Romney she does now and he has like a thousand kids, doesn't
he? Yeah, he's a one club with suspicious hair. No, but
yes, very suspicions. For real. He was a farmer. He was
a farmer governor of Massachuset, Massachusetts. Yeah, yeah, wow, I
invent he invented Romney care and didn't he didn't He put put his dog on
the top of his card. Didn They go on a vacation and they put
and the dog was dead when they can't when they got home. I think
it was dead dog. I think that's the story had a slightly different all
right, remember the vacation movie where they dragged the dog in the back of
the card. See that it's only a couple of miles. Okay, why
don't we go next one? Next letter? Please cli Fan, let us
to the show again. Dear Raven, I don't think you look like when
on a rider. I think you look more like Olivia Wilde and she's harder.
Yeah, Romney again, wrong, he's just he's given it to me.
I get it. Time. It could be another show, all right.
MIT's got things that you know, it's it's it's you know, just
unusual. Some of these things that we don't know for sure. That you
know, we don't want to get ourselves in any trouble with authority, so
we don't know for sure if this is the same Mitt rhymnew. This could
be living in a trailer, you know. Yeah, sure, And I
just want to say that up front, so we don't have any issues here.
Don't get your hopes up. Raven. Now I got another one.
Um this one. This one is kind of unique, but I put it
in here because it mentioned Raven's name, but it was to one one and
it said, uh D have one one. Can you get me Raven's autograph?
Max? Mom? Mom, Interesting, she's staying in touch, she
promised you. Yes, she loves loves Coco. Okay, interesting, fam
let us to the show. Wow, Okay, we got another one here
that I thought was appropriate. Dear Raven, last night I dreamed I was
sitting in a bar at the Hampton Beach in my new bikini, and you
walked dressed in a bright orange flight suit with a crash helmet on, and
I said to you, can I buy you a drink, to which you
replied, drop dead sailor, I'm here to meet someone named Coco. Yeah.
I woke up, screamed, my shriek said, My shrink said that
I should just ignore it. What do you think? Signed? One?
One again? One? I don't know if that's from you, but it
seems like before he's used to it. That's right, it's the other one
one. Wow. Okay, okay, you get a real follow up the
show to get every point in that story, you know, the bright Let's
dissect that story in little segments? Should we all? Right? Should we
now? Later? Later? Okay? Another show? Okay, head to
do with Cocoa in one of a good very good friends. But anyway,
well, why don't we go? Where are we? Where are we here?
Club? Towards the end, we're finally finally okay, we got we
got one big fan led us to the show. You just so you yes,
do you want to say something? Mac? I'm just gonna say this
is fan led us to the show that we've got early this year, whatever
year it might be, okay, because they're fairly comment Okay, go ahead.
Well anyways, and finally, yeah we did. We received a fourth
season desist orders since January one. And this is a lot of paperwork.
Okay, so I can just boil them down for you. Okay, Uh,
it wasn't this broadcast date the host of the mc maloney show, Shell
number one, start making fun of switch. He's rug okay, all right,
hopefully laugh switches. Yeah, we got a layer. We gotta let
them switches lawyers. Okay, yeah, say it was. It was there.
We got see see what he's doing here. It's a class you know,
like the version, you know what I mean? Okay, now,
yeah, you know it's odd. You know. I knew right away that
it had a switch connection. Yes, because the letter had it was a
logo of moth Man. Oh yeah, probably try to hide his really try
to hide his tracks, didn't that switch? All? Okay? Wow,
speaking of moth Man, this sounds like this radio but you can't see this
on zoom. This is the most tremendous beer I've ever had in my list.
Yeah, ghost Okay, So so we've had the season desists. We
got more of ceason desist because just one okay, just one, yep,
all right, now the other one, which I understand, we've talked about
this, you know, stop calling Victor Whap Victor whapp and instead call him
Victor King of all Italians. Right, Okay, we go. Let's take
a note of that. Okay, next time, he's only the King of
all Italians. It's a good one to follow. Sure, Yeah, ye,
all right, season desists letters to the show. Let on number three.
Yes, stop calling Coco's pig, hand me the sandwich that's in east
and dinner waiting to happen. That's that's inappropriate, Jesus, it's just pack
Now. Well, I think bacon is much more Bacon is much more right,
it's more politically correct. Of chickens are called eggs, baking and eggs.
In college that had chickens that were named Nugget and Tofu, I thought
it was awful and it was so cute. And then they did they became
nuggets. Nugget Tofu I could see. But nuggets is a little curl.
Yeah, I care, all right, here we go. So well,
at the end they were finally we've we're on number four and hour, so
we're finally getting through this sea is difficult. But last, but not least,
we've got a warning letter from the FCC. Yes, we love reminding
us that in broadcast radio you can only use the word prick as a verb.
Remember that. Okay, think about it right this time? Okay,
le's someone is good. I get it. You got an old joke.
Yes, we had to close with something. We will sweeten that up and
thank you club for our security report set up. Don't worry, we have
ways. Yeah, it was good, you know, good to see some
of these uh emails coming in for Raven. She's getting quite a following them.
Well, who can blame us? So she's got a marriage proposal from
a US senator that's pretty good. Yeah, all right, alleged, right,
he could be living in a trailer somewhere and you know why, owing
or right right state in New York State might be close by the dream.
Yeah okay, yeah, Mitt Romney living in the trail. It is a
sitcom, right, he loses all his money. It's like, shit's great,
he loses all his money. He's living in a trailer right right up,
and he meets raven right, fowsome up right and runs for president again?
How about that? Huh? And one wanted to be a crazy neighbor.
There you go, crazy crazy, give me the hunt of Thompson of
the thing and then he loses him, then you dump him, right of
course, that's that season. Chest sounds wonderful. Now that's a good elevator
pet reality TV dump. Wow. Huh So listen, why don't we do
that? Speaking of dumping, why don't we do this? Why don't we
take a commercial break now and calm down, regroup and we'll be right back
after the sip. Take another sip and uh and and we'll be right back.
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And I just kept going on and on about myself. I'm taking a
leak in the driveway. I know you'd like to talk to total stranger.
The story has got nothing to do with the Bruins game. That's what happened
with grandmother. I was wondering if those were sato messacas of straps or something.
But I digress from what I don't no kids, The beautiful mind of
one one only on the mcmloney Military X FILET show. Welcome back. If
you went to my Maloney's Militracks I'll show here on the Thunder Radio Network.
Wow, this is mcmiloney. Uh, what a show we have for you
tonight. But let me introduce if I can, the members of the posse.
Yeah, girls, get ready, if you're not ready, already,
listen to alphabetical order. Ready now, who knows the very famous one one
is here? Hey? Mac? How's it going? Have a good time
so far tonight? Are you really? Okay? Good to know? But
it's early yet, it's early yet. You never know. He's gonna have
to go to hell of a hand basket? Very movements, right? Um,
no cocoa to night, Sorry, MILFs. Yeah, he's on a
secret mission. Okay, but we hear from him often. When he's not
in a secret mission, you never hear from him. You can't get a
hold of the room. And when he saw him here from him maybe let's
with that. It's weird. So on the mission he needs company? Is
that it's a solo but you know, but he has the company. Okay,
all right, well we should next time he's on. Well, he's
home, he's got the animals and everything. Oh that's right, okay,
animals. Remember we're not supposed to mention the pig season desist and it will
look um a switchblad steep water is up there in Battle Creek, Michigan.
Switchy, National corresponding. Switch great, great to be here tonight. Okay,
easy for you to say. Now, let's say, uh one moment.
Do you have a breakfast today? Can you remember me? No?
Yes? What did he have for breakfast? Yeah? He had derice crisp
and frosted flakes Killoggs frosted. We start over? Should we start over?
Okay? Okay, all right? Switch you doing? Okay, Switchy,
I'm beyond wonderful. Interesting, Okay, all right, let's get back to
that. Our security chief is with us, Willy Club, Willie Mac.
It's great to be with you in the gang. Very informative. So for
tonight, okay, all right, well let's let us know if we go
astray? Okay, um, So anyway, speaking of going astray, how
else can I say it? Up there in Upstate in the Ark, the
Beauty and the beast is uh A good friend? Raven, Raven, how
are you tonight? I'm so good? Thank you for having me. I
got my my girly low low alcohol beer and I'm just having a good time
beer. Yeah, okay, well we are too. That's fine, that's
fine. Yeah, everything's good. Right. Some people have low alcohol beer,
some people have high alcohol beer. Okay, it balances. It's crazy,
it does. It's the ying and the yang. You know, Yan,
it was right. It was that KBS stuff. I had it.
You knew it was like twelve something. Yeah, before we got thrown out
of the thirsty movies. Oh, I would pass away. No way.
They served it too in this little class, like like a little wine glass.
I guess yes, yeah, many and many and many of those.
All right, it's like no just one one, Okay, you remember one.
Listen, let's get to our guess. Okay. Jesse Quanzi up there
in the um Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, Montana. Jesse, how you
doing, Jesse? How you doing good? Thanks for he's the He runs
a podcast called mud Pie Okay, and it's about UFOs. It's about all
kinds of crazy things stuff that we do. Okay, where are you?
What state are you in? Montana? Say it n Wyoming? Who cares?
Why don't you write it down? But they're all the west of the
Remember it this way, Remember the Frank Zappa song with the line moving to
montanas yea gonna be a dental floss tycoon. Yeah, Jesse, where's the
gentle dental floss guy? What did you have the dental floss farm or something
that Frank Zapple was talking? I don't, I mean not near us.
Okay, it's somewhere. This is a mistake. Listen, don't you don't
you live in the knows? A song that's not talking? I know,
Frank Zapple? Who who cares about Frank Zapper? Frank Zapper is you know
one of these guys who wants cream cheese, who listens to that, who
listens to it more than once? The guy can play too? Oh,
come on play? You know he's dead now, but you know he's just
one of these guys. He just being freaky'd be freaky and yeah, you
know what I mean. No one listened to those albums more than like two
or three times, and they said, oh, we listen to this crap
phone. So anyway, Jesse, let's get back to your so Um,
how have you been. We've talked to you, We talked you about three
or four months ago. What's going on anything? No, I've been pretty
good, just trying to survive the winter up here. Okay, some guests
together for next year's for our show, and I was just kind of plugging
right along. Do you have a bad winter up there, because we had
we were in New England. We had like no winter at all, right
until like late winter, and then it got pretty pretty bad. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, okay. And we mentioned earlier that you live in a
town that is so small that the cops call you in bears are running around.
Yeah, but they sent text to your phone to make sure you don't
go to like campus or to the stores. Wous that's going away. So
that's where you get the word out. Maybe they got the automatic text machine
text all twenty three live in the town. Yeah, yeah, a text
on my cops saying there's a bear around. I wouldn't leave my house watch
up for the bear. I don't leave your house without fly. It's a
really bad you know something of them. I've been watching National Geographic for years.
You know when when when a um, when a lion catches you or
something. If you're an antelope, you know, a cat, he'll grab
you by the throat and he'll suffocate you and then you die. And then
he eats you. That's a good technique. A bid just rips your pot.
Yeah, yeah, there's no, there's no just just yeah. Yeah.
The ripper was fun. And when you see them they look so cudly.
But boy, if you see them like, I'm par to pick him
on my phone. The freaking monsters. The bear that lives probably down the
stream from me. Really, so I'm taking in my bird feeders every night
too. You've been feeding them, feeding the bear. They teurn on you.
So watch it, okay, yep. So anyway, Jesse, so
you have this how long have you had the podcast? Mud Pipe podcast?
We started it last year late last year, I probably in the fall sometimes,
so we're running on a couple of months and then we're in a short
hiatus just to get our guests for the next year going. We just wanted
to do a couple of kind of test episodes see where we were at,
where we wanted to focus it, yes, and then we should be back
in a month with episodes the rest of the year. I was on it
wasn't I yes, Yes, it was awesome. Yeah, it was.
It was awesome too. I remember it was the last show of the season.
Club come on really and then they took the hiatus just in case.
Dude, Jesse, do you have like a Jesse Do you have a like
a general focus of your show? What's the basic theme of your show?
Mostly just fringe topics anything we say that, we call it the House of
Fringe. So any conversations from the fringe, whether it's alternative history, UFOs,
alien cryptozoology, paranormal stuff, Hey, that might be copped right,
infringement on, you know, tales from the Fringe, lay switchy, contact
your interny. So so. But I was looking through some of the podcasts
that you have done in the past, and and when you say you bring
French people on, you're right. We think we bring French people on,
but we really don't. But there was this one guy who was on and
I don't know, I guess his name caught my eye and his name was
Terry Lovelace. Was that his name? Yeah? I hate, I hate
to be like this, but I'm a BET's a club would agree with me.
Terry Lovelace to me, sounds like a seventies points time. Well,
we're talking about a male or a female, we don't know, you can't
tell. We'll see if his mother was Linda, maybe his relationship or maybe
your sister. Oh no, so his wife. Did you ever have to
ask him somebody talked to him? Yes, you never know? You never
No, well asked so Jesse, So how did you? So I start
a little bit of his video. I stole up watching because I really kind
of wanted to learn about him, like now and instead of then, but
just kind of not pype of guy. How did you get in touch with
him? And then we'll tell his story? Right? So, someone I
had interviewed earlier had mentioned his name, and when I looked him up,
he was releasing a book called The Devil's Den, which is kind of where
this whole situation and this whole experience happened, the main one. And so
I reached out to him a little bit before his book came out and asked
if he'd come on, and he agreed and yeah, it was great.
So let's tell his story. I mean, I start a little bit of
a story. He was someone who was abducted, right, OK. Yeah,
so he had a lot of experiences, almost paranormal type alien ish experiences,
from the time he was a small child all the way up until this
main couple events happened. The big part of his story takes place when he's
serving in the Air Force and him and a friend goes to this place called
the Devil's Plateau was dim plateau. It's out and I think the Arkansas area,
those mountains back there, kind of in the same area where there's a
lot of those missing four one one cases in that area. So there's this
big giant plateau up there, and so him and his buddy who was also
in the Air Force go up there to this plateau to go camping, and
then they have this experience with these lights and they what they believe got abducted.
Did they have a part of their memory is missing? They woke up
with burns on their bodies and in different locations on the place they saw this
craft. And then kind of like going back, he went to go tell
the people that he worked with in the Air Force. They had a lot
of issues talking about that at that time in the Air Force with the people
that he was with, so they kind of just brushed him off that whole
thing. But I think I'm trying to remember if I get the order right,
I think he started feeling this like weird pain in his knee and so
like shortly after the experience of this main one, he went to the doctor
and they did extra imaging, and so on the podcast, I show a
picture of a couple of the extra and there's this two spots in his body,
ones in his knee where there's like this weird material that's in like this
flower pattern underneath the skin, and the doctors didn't really know what it was.
And then there's a second one where there is this small rectangular object that
you can see like very clearly on the X rays with two straight lines coming
down from it. And he had been working for like fifteen years to try
to find the doctor to take this out, and no doctor would touch it
because they didn't know what it was. They thought it was something they kept
using the term like wires or whatever coming down from it. And then he
finally found a doctor in Mexico that would take it out. And then something
some situation happened, he wasn't able to go to Mexico, and then he
had another experience and then went back to the doctor. After the second experience,
got a new set of X rays and the doctor said it looked like
they took the old piece of equipment out and put in a new sleeker one.
So there's a new thing on the X ray in the same location,
upgrade a different object when the doctor wanted to Yeah, yes, wow man.
He and he's had these like experiences throughout his life and after that had
a few more. And he says he's had regular experiences with entities similar to
this, yea, throughout his life. Pretty great. Yeah, A lot
of people say that with the experienced it, they experienced it a one shot
deal. It's no, it's like it's a lifeline. Let me ask you,
Jesse, what was this thing with monkeys? Right? He had a
little thing with monkeys, had a little monkey thing going on. Yeah,
so that was it. So when he was a child, there was and
he wasn't sure if it was an alien entity, but some of his experiences
later on in life make him think back and believe that it was sort of
extra treashful because they talked as if they were familiar with the situations that were
taking place when he was a young kid. But anyway, he was like
five or six, and these things lived or kept coming to visit him a
lot when he was a young child. They would like show up in his
room and he talked to his parents about it and all this stuff. But
he ever, he said, he never had a sinister vibe from them or
anything. Yes, but the only way that he could describe them was like
small monkeys, the way that they moved around, and kind of their hot,
like their size and proportions yep, yep. And and did he um,
I mean, what was he afraid of them? Or was he friends
with them? No? He said everything was pretty neutral and comfortable feeling.
And he used a word familiar a lot, so he would see these entities
throughout his life, and he said they just felt familiar. I think the
only time that he started getting like a weird vibe was from the time that
he was abducted, or that he thinks he was abducted on the Devil's plot
to I think that was the first time that it had like a And does
he think less than pleasant thinned? Does he think they connected the divisions on
the monkeys and in the abduction situation he thinks? How did he put it?
I want to say he believes that he's more open to experiences, so
they might not have been the same entities, but he has this like relationship
with entities or something where it's more common that he experiences him. He does
say that they seem to have communicated with each other, but he does feel
they were different. We talked about this on the show a lot, and
it's it's a certain people will open to this kind of stuff than other people.
I'm not. I'm not. We both wish we were it, but
yeah, we both wish we were it, but I'm not. I think
Raven is, I think Switchy is, and I think club is. I
think a certain kind of know. I find it really interesting, And the
thing that gets me is the implants that you talk about. You know,
that was a big thing a while back. You know, I think you
probably all know Whitley Strieba. Yes, you know he had instance where he
had those. Now, there was a doctor I can't recall his name.
He was. He used to be an hot bell show for years. But
he would attempt to remove those implants. The problem is some of them after
he go in there to try to remove it, they would move. Yeah,
there was one in his earlobe that moves when they drink, and they're
afraid that it was geared to go toward the hot so that you can't get
at it. But you know that that implant thing. I haven't had a
lot about it of late, but well, there was quite a time there
when the number of people were so you know, talking about those implants,
and some have been removed, right I think I think it was doctor Roger
Lear. Yeah, that's right. I even even found some that were,
uh, actually broadcasting on FM frequencies. There was one particular one for a
short period of time was was broadcasting on two FM frequencies, something that would
have a station there. But yeah, I mean, how do you explain
that? I mean, who puts even if it's some kind of high tech
black operation by the government, right, what the hell on FM radio?
Right? But but but but they is that what they are? They tracking
devices that they think, you know, if they see people with these implants,
it is that the purpose tracking them. So I would feel everything that
I've read about him and kind of the reports people have, it would almost
seem like they're kind of like tracking, but almost more of like a scientific
implant. Okay, maybe sending updates kind of how we wear watches now that
kind of track all our individual like personal data. Um, I imagine it's
like that because he said he got the feeling it was more being analyzed and
studied when he was up there. So okay, all right, so let
me ask you this. So you talk to him, You and your buddy
talked to him for for an hour anyway, right, it was like,
oh man, it was close to three hours. So so you know,
was he other than his story? Was he? Was he on the level?
Was he an okay guy? Was he given the flight? I question
him a bunch about stuff. I thought, Yeah, I was trying to
like see if he had weird views on anything else or something. Seemed often
he just he seems like a very more of everything he was. So there's
no common he doesn't. He doesn't seem like he's making it up. And
you should go to Jesse's UMM webcast. Right, how would they go and
see this with this guy? Try lovel she sounds like. So if you
if you want to see it with the pictures in the interview, you can
go to YouTube on like by podcasts, but also the podcast is on iTunes
and Google playing Spotify and all that. Are the implants you know that he
has. Are they right below the skin where you can see them? So
he could only see them direct ray because there weren't any obvious incision marks or
anything, but the doctor said that they were clearly not natural things. They
didn't know. There weren't big incision marks or anything like that. Okay,
And he didn't remember getting injured in any way, nothing like that. Nothing.
So the only injuries that they sustained were like small burn injuries from burns
that devil stin situation. And I think maybe a little road rash because maybe
one got kind of feller or seemed like they had followers the kind of dragged
or something like that. Wow. So so well, the thing that cult
me about this guy is that he just seemed like a very um there he
was backing the thing, a very um normal guy in a way, you
know, not you know, you know what I mean normal if you can
say normal. He just didn't seem like he was making the nut, but
he was. The story he told was fantastic help in a way, you
know. And I'm part way through his book and it's great. So if
you do get a chance to check out his book, you should. Yeah.
So this whole idea that certain people you're open to it then not,
you know, Raven, if you had an implant in your body, would
you know it, wouldn't you? I would probably have no idea. But
I mean I'm the type of person that, like, you know, i
could be bleeding from my elbow and I'm like, oh no, I'm fine,
I don't need anything. So I would just ignore it. Now,
if something comes to me in a dream, yes, oh that's a different
story. Like that means something more than more than a physical reality thing,
you know what I mean. Yes, So this this freacher had implants and
knew it was there. I didn't know it was there. I didn't care
it was there. Well he found it on here? How did he find
the implant in him? Jesse? How did he find it? So they
were doing x rays because he had those minor burn injuries, and he was
reporting that some crazy incident had happened and you know general just like bruising and
stuff, and he thought it maybe he had fallen or whatever, but it
was just so strange. So he had the doctors do full workups. And
you know, in the military everything, I mean medical street, so it's
no big deal to go and and be like, hey, I don't know
what's going on. I don't know what happened, but check everything out.
So when they ran that the X rays and scans, that's what they found
it. Wow. They found that the xtra where on his body where they
specifically one was on his knee, then if the other one was in his
arm. There was one that just didn't They didn't know what it was.
It was like more of a flower shape, almost like a weird tissuey type
of consistency, almost like scar tissue could be. But it was just in
a really symmetrical pattern of one one just one one. Just handed me a
notice that it'd be funny if it's on his ass, right, I don't
think that'd be that fun would be so so wow, wow that I see.
Like I say, I think that there are just certain people who would
this would happen to them, and they're just certain people. It's just I've
always thought the technology has been out there for quite some time. But if
someone put it, if someone put the delivery mechanism, I'm uncertain about.
But but if let's say, let's let's just say it's not only let's say
it to the government just for the hell, okay or something that government would
be a simple to be a simple way than putting an implant in you.
They can track you when your phone on you, you know what I mean.
But for all they need to track you, they can track you,
but putting an implant in you is an a surety that you're gonna be tracked.
The other things are like, well, you know, they they may
not want easy pass, they may not want I was gonna say, I
think turn off the GPS through a easy pass. The little thing will blinking
you. So listen. Just the people I run into that, they say,
I'm not going to get a tracked. I don't have a smartphone.
Oh yeah, that's great. Listen. I went to eg pass for like
three years on a mash plate and nod thing. They never caught me.
You did, yeah, yeah, I called him. They said, we
don't have any record of you have your license planning. Oh that's okay.
So anyway, so Jesse, you were in Iraq right for a while.
Jesse, you could have used that money too. Yeah. I did two
churies, yeah, okay, and what years with those? My first one
was in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and then the
second one was in two eleven and twelve, So you had a year off
in between. Yep. I came back from my first one, and then
went to a new duty station, did a quick train up, then kind
of turnament and I was there for about four months and then went to Iraq.
Again. Did you at any time did you volunteer to go over there
or is that just where they sent you? The second one was a volunteer
because I was told that I would get a duty an assignment of choice yea
if I went to this rapid deploy unit. And so I was like,
yeah, they're problem. Okay, I didn't get the unit of choice when
I got back, but so that's what I mean. They'll promise you,
and then when you're in it's like, okay, you do what we say
type thing. Yeah, what are you going to do about it? Yeah?
They do what they can. But sometimes, you know, you your
branch manager controls a lot of where you move. So every branch in the
Army saw I was an aviation So the aviation branch manager was like, yeah,
I'll get you whatever job you want. What the problem is is if
like Army HQ does d A selection, if they d A select you for
a certain job, your branch can't do that. And they d A selected
me while I was in Iraq, so there's nothing I can do to get
out of it. So what you do when you went back the second time?
What did they have you do? The second one, I was a
battle in CEO for a pretty cool like youav kind of special surveillance, small
task unity. Yeah, pretty awesome capabilities on them. And I was just
in charge of mission control. And I worked with the United States government in
Iraqi government and helped run missions, surveillance and stuff. So, so were
you out in the middle of nowhere though? Right? If I remember right?
The first one, I was in the middle of nowhere. Second one,
I was in the middle of nowhere for just a little bit. Then
we went to Bosra. We would you rather be in a city? If
you're in Iraq in a wall? Would you rather be in a city or
out in the middle of nowhere? Out in the middle of nowhere? Yeah?
All day? Yeah? Yeah interesting, So so imagine I can't imagine
it either. You know, I'm not someone who would went in the military,
and my hats off to anyone who did. You know, we do
a lot of stuff kind of for veterans on the show, and I believe
that in the bottom I hot, but I don't believe that I'm a military
type person. I don't think I would have lasted a week in there,
you know, I just I because they don't like you. Everybody says that
going into it, And Dave, I mean, you're talking about the military
has crafted perfectly how to take someone from who they thought they were, basically
break them down to start all over from scratches, and then create this thing.
And you're completely different than the person that you were when you went in
before that training. So I mean, tell us your first day in boot
camp. What was it like waking up? Remember it was horrible night.
Yeah, No, it's like one of the most memorable things in my life
for the first day. So when I joined, it was two thousand and
five, so we had just you know, Shotuna had just happened and we
were sitting that second big wave in so things were still pretty bad in Iraq.
And yes, I went to Fort Knox, Kentucky when it was still
a place that had a basic training a bunch of like old hardened cap scouts
that just got back from Iraq riginal sergeants. So they the one thing they
wanted to do is to understand, like to get us to understand the severity
of what we were going into. They took it. They woke us up
at like three o'clock in the morning, so we had gotten there late at
night, we had gone to bed for like two hours. They woke us
up, took us down to the basement of this building and there's all these
like death chairs set up in this team projector. And if you can remember,
in like two thousand and five, two thousand and four, they were
those beheading videos were extremely popular. Yeah yeah, not not like popular popular,
but they were being used a lot out they were out there. Yeah,
so they made us, they made us sit down there and for like
three hours straight watch those batting videos and you couldn't like look away or do
anything like that. And that was and I was eighteen coming from Montana,
so I was like, a that was quite shocking. That was what happened
to Day one. I'll tell you my day one that it wasn't quite as
horrifying. We didn't see any of the stadting videos, but we got we
were right. We're filling out paper works all about four in the morning,
and then we went to bed for about an hour's Actually, I'm having a
dream where I've been listed in the middle of in the in the navy.
But it's a dream and I'm gonna wake up and I'm not going to be
in the navy. But when I woke up, the company commander was bashing
a baseball bat on a trash can to get us all up. Was pliferous
trying to wake all these up. It sounds funny. So listen, let
me. But I gotta say that. I gotta say the club because Club
you were also in the military, right clubby? Yeah, And I went
through basic in foot Dickson, New Jersey, ARIZONAMI so an advanced infantry.
So yeah, it was. It was a unique experience. I'm glad I
did it, you know back in those days that it definitely I grew up
fast. Yes, you know, you learned how to take care of yourself
overnight. There was no one there. And I till today, I still
wish that they had some kind of service that was mandatory, even if it
was like for a year or something, because it really the kids today,
you know, they're different, and uh we were. We got out there.
We were much living the life of Riley. No, yes, right,
well we'll think what it would have done for mac oh, he would
have been out in no time. He would have been in KP every day
and I got d eight hundred miles to smack him. What do you mean,
well, I just want to get my thing here. I'm only one
that doesn't. Didn't mention their service record steventy three Yes, US Navy Anti
seveny war fair Little Creek, Virginia. Okay, hang on, hang on,
time out. Okay, you can't have a great lakes who year.
Regular listeners, regular listeners will remember this is this is one one war rocket.
Okay, he got he he goes down to Guantanamo Bay where he told
me the hottest thing was getting the pair of flip flops correct on the beach.
Right. I haven't had those flip flops on because the coral beach.
He's in there because the cold coral beachurs the hours. The biff feat Okay,
it's in the Caribbean. And then he gets a signed to Newport Rhode
Island. And if anyone hasn't heard the show, they should know that Newport
Rhode Island is they kick out the one percent. You have to be one.
I didn't even know there's a base of the one percent to getting where
in Newport Rhode Island and they sent him their no Via Kong made it as
far as Newport, right. Congratulations, you never got on that. The
tour of all the mansions down there, everything we're protected. Them are the
jazz. The funny part about it is that I was assigned to a ship
that was still in the med Yes, raining it's on its way back.
That's got to take a while. So two years did have anything for me
to do? And then so what happened? He gets transferred to Charlestown,
mass which I have to run across the expressway, and that's where he grew
up. I mean, it's like being in the Navy and being home at
the same being a boy scout, like a cub scout. You know,
the angels are following me from place to place, making sure I was safe
and there were no loud noise. He did everything but sell rapping paper.
Hey listen, Raven, do you ever consider going into the military. You
know I could see you when I was little. That was all I wanted
to do, like I I was. I don't know if you guys have
guessed it, but I'm a bit of a tomboy. All I had well
tell us, Oh my gosh, All I had were G I Joes.
That was it, and I had this one and it was trying to remember
his name. He had a name like they come with the name and ever,
and I was obsessed with this G I Joe. And I was like,
this is what I'm going to do. Really, and you know,
I mean, don't always work out his name is Cobra. Obviously I figure
out his name. Okay, oh well it was it was Umary, it
was it Ken and the help. So he was air force. It was
an air force G I Joe, and I just don't remember like they have,
like you know, sergeant one of those guys you know, a bit
different alright, levels. But I was obsessed with him. He had a
scar on his eye. He was coable, so like little kidney. It
was like, this is what I want to do. But then I changed
my mind. That a whole other story. We don't want to have a
patron none. Let me just ask the question that's on everyone's mind and I'll
be as delicate as I can. Jesse, block yours if you want.
He didn't have any junk though, right the doll didn't have any junk.
He was it was not timically correct. It was that was? That was
like what the the kids? Um yeah, that was like an ad on
and I couldn't get that. People could. That's exactly twice twice in one
show the vehicle. Okay, all right, well that's good. And did
he have it? Was Bobby's girlfriend is did you ever go that pharm?
Or did? No? No? My sister had barbies and I was like
that weird kid that like ripped her, ripped her head off, cut her
hair, drew all over her like that was that kid? Yeah? I
didn't have any barbies. I wasn't allowed to have them. Okay, all
right, I think next show two whiles a Raven, you know Sarah my
daughter Elise and that two daughters. They were like unicorns and Sheiraira and wonder
woman is separate. Okay, you're talking a different language. Was that the
unicorn with the thing with the with the with the wings. Yeah, there's
like, you know, sort of a ying and yang kind of okay,
toy interest between the two of them. There's a thing. Where is that
the is that the one with the with the pony, the princess who rides
the pony with the wings A little whatever? I say it only because there's
a group of Shira. There's a group of people who are into the fetish
and they and they they gathered it about bronies. Oh that's the cops had
to win and break them up. Yeah. Really they're just like ponies anyway.
Oh yeah, my little ponies is pretty society has gone. See you
Jesse that you get yourself into this. Every time we see him, he
looks he's in the sauna. Didn't he look like he's in Are you in
the sauna? I wish? So? So you went so well. That
accent wall was beautiful. Thank you. So, so you're in yellow Stone,
yellow Yeah, just a couple of hours away. Really, I'm in
Missoula, So I'm in like middle northwestern edge of Montana. Wow. Okay,
so we get a couple of hours and yellows. Did you ever get
to see them filming the series out there at all? The yellow Stomics?
So they did do part of that series. I think they did a couple
of days in Missoula. And I have a bunch of friends in the art
industry out here and they do work for that Yellowstone program. Okay, and
sort of saying it's all blue screen, No, it's not blue screen,
it's not it's all live. Yeah, Kevin's kostna. You know, he's
kind of his niche man doing these shows. He was on the he was
on a mini series a few years ago called The Hatfields and McCoy's you know,
and it was really good. I mean, it's it's as crazy as
it sounds. He actually is doing something that's not lame. Yeah, right,
not lame exactly. Yeah, I've had a lot of lame rolls.
But so Jesse, I liked him when he was when he was robbing the
last Las Vegas casino dressed up as Elvis what was that one hundred Elvis is
or something like that. It wasn't like it wasn't an Oceans movie. It
was like about him wanted to do this and they're all dressed up myselfs So
Jesse, when you went so you you go from a small town. How
many people in the town? Did you grow up? In the town now
where I grew up a couple hours north from where I am right now,
the town I grew up and has a couple of thousand people. Okay,
right, okay, So so you go from a from a town with you
know, a small population. Everyone kind of knows each other, etc.
And then you go to some place. You go to Iraq. It had
to be like going to another planet something. Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
I mean the only thing that kind of prepared me is my dad was
in the Navy. Also, we moved a lot, so I'm used to
going to different places. We settled in Montana when I was ten years old.
That's when he retired from the Navy. Okay, And I also took
a bunch of trips all over the like the world with different missions trips when
I was in high school. It's like the middle of the Amazon rainforest in
Brazil and stuff like that. So for me, I was completely fine with
the new location. I okay, that type of environment. Ye, something
new. Right. So you had been out of town before, right,
So so I mean when you went back, Oh yeah, when you went
back, was it was it a culture shock just to be back in like
really literally a small town. Yeah, it was very different. I mean
I've been out of the Army for I got out in twenty fifteen, so
seven years now, and it's still kind of super weird being in a place
like this. Just I think mostly because my time in ten years was from
the time I was eighteen to twenty eight, and so that's the most impressionable
on my adult life. So a lot of things that happened in that ten
years just get carried on probably forever, so it'd always be a little bit
funny. Do people treat you differently people, you know, if they know,
if they know you're a veteran, especially around here, they do.
They give you a propos I don't really talk about it that much though,
but but they give you a products, right yeah, okay, yeah,
See that's the way it should be. This is what really like drives being
knock and that didn't happen in the sixties is the Vegian administration. I mean
that you know that the whole the Vegian administration should be and it was promised
so many times to dismantle it. Eight you have to dismantle and start from
the ground zero. It's it's a disgrace. This country has the veterans administration
that that takes billions and billions of dollars and it's horrible. And I know
because they've had personal experiences with US. Other countries Canada, England, Germany,
Australia, Russia, France. One of their veterans, they honor them
in this country. They don't one of them. It's terrible. And and
then let me get the plug in. You know, homes rot troops.
You know, as a military charity, they build homes a wounded Iraqi veterans,
wounded um Afghany veterans, people have lost limbs, and they build homes
so they can get around, homes that are tailored for them. And then
they give them the keys, no mortgage, nothing, okay, homes rot
troops they deserve it's whenever RG. Yeah, they're really good. So listen,
what Jesse, you're gonna hang around with us for a while, can
you take it? Yeah? Sure, okay, all right, um so,
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went to Maclonian in the Middle Tracksile show here on this Thunder Radio Network.
This is macroney, Well, what a show we have for you tonight,
crazy show, especially backstage, as they say in the biz. But first,
I mean very quickly and toduce once again, the members of the policy
that slashed the gang girls. I'm sure you're halfway through. You're a big
box of cleanings. What did I say before? And all the way through
your big box of wife box of wife right, a loud economy size and
your fans probably run out of the batteries at this point. But he's still
here, the very finest one one. Hey, Mac, it's good to
be here tonight, which were I always want to be Anyway, every night
I'd like to do this really yeah, definitely every night we can do with
the female fan base, which is awesome. We couldn't last. The guys
are great, we couldn't last two weeks. They send it some funny stuff
every stuff that we can't read on the air. But right beside the point,
he make millions of blue us. So anyway, um, now,
the bad news is no Coco. Okay, ye get over quickly, girls.
Um. But up there in the bowl of Flakes, Battle Creek,
Michigan is now switched place. Steve Wood switching Mac. It is a pleasure
to be here tonight. Okay, all right, Uh we just talked about
this. It seems like maybe I dreamed that. But you had a big
bowl of frosted flakes, right, Yes I did? Okay, good,
Yes, that's how I remember. And and um, at some point I
had a dream that said that one one used to put frosted flakes on his
cheerios? Is that true? Man? And we had that same dream because
Raven and I in that dream started talking about how awful that wasn't how you
should probably be really arrested or incarcerated, and I, you know, I
remember that, and I distinctly remember I was going to call the police,
you know that either exactly? Ye wow, Well this is the plane cheerios
not there honey nut or those other things that bring those up frosted flakes on
top, sprinkle it up like like salt or something. That's hate crime.
That must have loved you did well? Look talking about security a security chief.
Willie Club is here from beautiful Mathuin mass Willie. How are you doing
by Mac? Hi folks. Yeah, it's great to be here again.
Another good show. You know, I have to say something though, I
listen to this every week, these dull breakfast things should talk about. Yes,
and I have to interject, you know, Like this morning I had
some a little more exciting. I had a couple of slices of leftover pepperoni
and cheese pizza. Ye, yes, yes, there we go. Now
this stuff with ya? How do you get up in them on? You
eat that other? Yeah, I have my pepperoni pizza and I'm flying,
flying, I will be going. Understand, I've got an obligation on Tuesdays
to have a breakfast that doesn't rock boat at Mac, like like a food
bar or yogurt. You don't think having a slice of pizza. You think
you're having a slice of pizza every breakfast club. How many times I'd love
crush it's a thin We have the thin pizzas. Yeah, and there's no
thick crust where we live. Yeah, that's talk about it. We have
the real thing. We have what they call New York style pizza. Ye,
we don't have that phony Midwest stuff, you know, the Chicago pizza.
That's that's that's Chicago pizza rocks. That's that's how you get a pizza
rocks. You have, like that's how they sell you tons of dough.
That's all they're doing. It's like, let me introduce that special guests.
Jesse is up there in uh the Great Northwest. Are you in the Northwest?
You officially in the Northwest? Jesse? Oh yeah, Northwest right in
the Rockies? Yeah? Did you forget again? Mac is Yeah, Montana,
Colorado? What is it? Wyoming? That's it Montana? Okay.
Well, the thing is that the stay each out there. When you really
look at a map, not that they do often, but they do,
it's the date. What is it really? Yeah? I mean New England.
We think in New England as being a lot because there's like six states
at home. Any of there is in Montana, like you put like four
in New England is huge. Yeah, it's a different way in life.
I can I can understand that. I like the wide open spaces. Yeah,
for sure. In some areas you definitely have to be a cowboy.
Yeah yeah right, I'll say so, listen, what's the name of your
podcast? Mudpie is the name of your podcast? But how do people follow
you on stuff? It's like very fringe stories about UFOs and the paranormal and
stuff. Yeah, they can find me Gus on YouTube under my Pie podcast,
iTunes, Spotify, Google podcasts, pretty much anywhere that you like to
listen to podcasts. I think YouTube is the best one though, because we
have the video and we try to put images on there, and the conversation
is a little bit better when people talking. Yeah right, well you did
a good idea. You definitely get people who are a little more to the
left of the fringe than we get, you know, and I really like
seeing people like that, you know, just to But when you're more to
the left, it's like, what are you're crazy? Right? Yeah?
Yeah, crazy another way of saying crazy. No, but you know,
you you hear people sometimes the stories kind of sound the same. But when
you actually see the people like you says on YouTube, they say, there's
no way this guy who's making it up? You know. Sometimes you can
tell when people are pulling your legs, you know what. I want to
see more pictures. Sometimes it's like, why wouldn't everybody's camera everybody's That's the
big thing, yep, that's the that's the big thing, is like why
isn't there the demand of the video? And and I'll tell you someone once
someone's actually gave me an explanation for that they said, Look, if UFOs
a time machines, let's just say you can't photograph them. Right. They
know that they're not going to get caught until you know, January eighth,
two thousand and thirty eight. You know, they know the history, so
they know they can do anything up until that point, right, you know,
so cameras they know they're not going to get caught, right, who
knows, you know. I mean there's a lot of crazy stuff going on.
This works for me, Jesse, does that work for you? What
do you think that they're just time travelers? That's where I can't say simpling
them. You know, I'm not really sure yet. I tend to lean
towards maybe they are just so technologically advanced that our cameras can't even get a
clear picture. I mean, when Favor was talking about his interaction with the
tiktak Ufo, he said they were actively jamming. So I can't imagine that
they wouldn't have something just constantly going that could influence whether or not you take
clear pictures, something to block flash photography. Well here's the thing too,
See, yeah, what way beyond us we don't know of this? Here's
we don't have that. But here's the way thing about it, and we'd
like to be a timeless show. But anyway, let's say recently in the
headlines, there was this um person who was in the intelligence agent. She
said, we have video of UFOs quote unquote UFOs breaking the sound barrier with
no sound, without any noise. Okay, So, um, I wish
Coco was here for this because he would tell you that, you know,
that's beyond the beronautical you know, physical realm or something. Right, that's
that's like impossible to beyond our level of science. But they have video of
them, of someone doing it, you know. So, and that's supposedly
in the months to come, supposedly they're going to release all this stuff,
which I don't believe they are. But when you think of it like that,
in a way, as you say, they just from it could be
very simple. It is like I hate to use this word probes, but
you know it's it's like sending stuff to a planet. See what's going on?
Simple as that. Wow. So anyway, there you go. So,
so um, I'm gonna throw at the raven. I'm gonna ask her
something. Let's see, see, you're a tomboy, huh, I know,
I know I saw a tomboy vibe from you. Do we you abducted
as a kid and they turned you into a tomboy. Maybe. I'm I
was a dumpster baby and I was unlucky enough for my my parents to pick
me up out of the dumpster. I know, you like, oh my
god, we're gonna raise her as our own. I'm kidding. Wow,
I was just awaking, like like I was making mud pies as a kid
and playing in the dirt, running around, riding bikes with my g I
Joe, trying to blow it up. I did all that, Okay,
yeah, I don't know, didn't we all? But listen, did you
ever think to go in the military. Do you think the military was the
life for you? At a point? I did. I was about God,
I wanted to go into the Air Force up until I was about sixteen,
it was. And then I kind of switched gears, and like I
said, that's a whole other that's a whole other story shared. That's probably
where it all went wrong. But you never know. You want me to
get on my soapbox? No you bet? Why don't you text about the
Yes I do, But let's talk about that incident that you were talking about.
The thing that we know and can pronounce. Yes, let's do that.
We've talked about this before, like these these kind of weird circumstances that
happened around the country, around the world where people like some of them just
disappeared they've never seen again, but some of them are found, like you
know, just ripped a pod and you know, really have met a really
ugly end. Right, And that's is that kind of where we're going with
this story? Yeah? Um, yeah, okay, So it's the Kamar
Dabon I know I'm not pronouncing that right, but it's the Kamar Daban incident.
This was in August of nineteen ninety three, Southern Siberia, Russia.
This is not an elevation of seventy eight hundred and sixty one feet and that
kind of comes into play later, so just keep keep that right back here,
right, um. And the destination that these hikers were going to were
the Kamar Dabon Ridge and this is one of the oldest mountains on the planet
where it's also considered safe Siberia. Where is it again, uh, Southern
Siberia. Southern Siberia, where the temperatures go ahead. Yeah, Okay,
it's August, so it's you would think it would be warmer. But yeah,
so it's supposed to be like a very normal place to hike. It's
safe, it's it's a it's a great tourist attraction. Um. So.
A group of seven UM tourists UM consisted of Ludmila Coravina. She was the
lead hiker, an experienced hiker. She knew what she was doing. UM
and the people she was leading were actually her students. UM. We have
Tatiana. We have Sasha. His real name was Alexander, but he went
by Sasha. UM Dennis I think Victoria. They called her Vika. We
have Teamer, and we have Valentine, who also went by Valia. Valia
was the only survivor. Okay, can I just say this It sounds like
the roster at the Penn's nightclub done it kind of? You may know more
about that's inside. Go ahead, please sorry, brave it. Um So
they set out UM and like I said, this was August of ninety three,
UM and two other hiking groups had all also UM set out within the
vicinity, not on the same route, but they were all together ish and
UM. The one of the other hiking groups was led by Ludmila's sixteen year
old daughter. Her name isn't Italia, I believe, and um they were
actually all going to meet up at the end of this. So this was
like a totally normal nothing. Nothing was supposed to be difficult nothing. UM.
Good weather was predicted. However, that was not what they experienced.
UM while they were on the hike. Uh, they got freezing rains,
snow, um, high winds, which is uncomfortable, but it wouldn't necessarily
kill you on the spot, right, so we are. They went about
seventy kilometers in roughly five five and a half days, and then they took
a rest between the peaks of goualts yaggle Me and the tritrens. That's so
they were like in the middle of it, but they were actually exposed for
whatever reason, um Lumela didn't make them go under like the trees where they
were shelter. And on the morning of August fifth, they were going to
continue down the slopes, finish out this expedition, no big deal. They
started to take off and then Sasha began to convulse. He was screaming,
he was bleeding from his ears, nose, and he had foam coming out
of his mouth and it was just like out of nowhere. Nobody saw anything
coming nothing. So because Ludmila, these were all her students, they she
said she wanted to stay with him, and she said, everyone else just
go, I'm going to take care of him, like whatever. He I
mean, he was dead. There was there was nothing that she could do.
So I don't know why she stayed with him other than I mean,
maybe it was just a an internal type of a thing, like she just
felt like she needed to stay with him. But he was deceased at this
point, and everyone else went down the hill trying to like get out of
there, so they didn't make it far though, they heard Ludmila screaming and
they immediately went back and they found her having these same exact symptoms, the
convulsing, the bleeding from the ears, the nose, the foaming, froll
thing coming out of the mouth, and within minutes she was dead. Wow.
So this was essentially just a snowball effect of the remaining So there were
seven of them, so they remaining five hikers just I'm sorry, the remaining
four hikers um started experiencing these symptoms, and it got to kind of escalated
where some of them were, um paranoid, and they were hiding behind rocks
and trying to run away. Some of them were literally to the point where
they were smashing their heads against rocks and trees until they until they died.
It's wilds, but they were driven crazy. They were driven mad by now
huh, some of them um because there was a survivor. And she reported
that some of them were trying to like clawt their at their throats as if
they were being choked, and and no explanation for it. Essentially, I
mean, this isn't like atmospheric stick things or anything. Is it's like a
stick as you get if you go up to I without oxygen or something like
that. They went up that high. Yeah, and that's the thing.
I mean, there's theories, but because there was a survivor that that was
with them, the theories kind of because they just don't really make a lot
of sense. What's the survivor? So so her name Valentina Valiauchenko um and
at the time she was seventeen ye rated twenty five years before she would speak
up. Okay, correct, you never told anyone anything for twenty five years,
she's probably dancing in those Sorry they said that she she did, um
like make a statement initially, and then that was it because it was like
kind of like she was so traumatized, like she just couldn't speak to anyone.
But she was the lone survivor and she was the person that gave the
firsthand account of seeing people, you know, like clawing at their throats,
coughing up whatever this foam was. And um so I'm sorry, sho.
We talk about we talk about the the dead other place in happened earlier,
you know, like in the fifties, or those people who are hiking in
the moment they're found torn a pot that bitland pass or something like that.
It's like it's almost you know and very similar, right, you know,
I can interject one of those theories. Yeah, there's a bunch of theories
on this, and uh, you know, one of the big things is
that they were eating or they had roots they were eating they think when they
were there, and it's believed that they could possibly have been toxic, and
that's regard to them. But the theory that I believe is one it's in
southern Siberia. That's an area that the Russian government, uh, you know,
they had no use for. They use that as a dumping ground,
I mean, going back two hundred years. They sent political prisoners there and
the theory is that they dump a lot of poison gases and things of that
suit that get into the ground. And so you know, it seems like
based on that theory that because the bodies themselves they said were eaten by animals,
I mean, so that's yes, not as if there was something,
you know, they looked like they were eaten by animals. Pers on what
they saw. They did autopsies, you know, and they couldn't find anything
unusual other than that. But you know, I think that my own person
opinion, I have to read nothing is that, you know, where the
Russian government used that area as a toxic wasay site for years, whether they
got from the poison gas that they used to dump there. The other thing
is, you know, they were rescued by she was rescued by hunters from
Ukraine. And if you can recall, six years prior to that, we
had Chinnobyl. Yes, and you know, those radiation areas, you know,
spread all across the world, and clearly up there in the mountains.
I'm sure that there is an impact. And if you know about Chernobyl,
you know, all these years later there is still very dangerous areas. So
that was only six years after Chernobyl, so possible that maybe it was some
radiation, but usually radiation doesn't get you that quick, right right, yes,
Why it seems like they're saying that it's could be you know, a
gas that was dumbed by the Russian army or whatever something, and that the
reason she didn't speak up for twenty five years is that she was afraid to
say anything. But then all of a sudden she go out of the blue,
steps out twenty five years later, because probably because they're all gone Soviet
unions, you know, as he's gone, So it might have been that
she finally got the courage to speak up. But but I really think that
reading and that thing that just like that other issue talked about years ago with
the hikers, same thing, this is so much crap out there, and
that whold what you king? You know, what are you hiking in Siberia
for just home watching TV or something? I mean, you know, really,
when you have to go hiking in Siberia, aren't you just asking for
trouble. I mean, I'm I'm a big hiker, so if I got
the chance to go hiking in Siberia, well, oh my gosh, we're
learning a lot of the type of person that would have one hundred percent and
joined a cult in the sixties. So I guess, wow, we are
learning a lot about her. This just did one marriage proposal and see what
happens. Okay, all right with like bringing up like the deal of pass
um. With the autopsies they did find they uh stated that hypothermia was like
did play a role in their deaths. Uh. They also said that protein
deficiency did, but they ate really well during this whole trip um. But
there was also bruising found on their ribs, their lungs um, which I
thought was just an odd thing to find on an autopsy for people that just
seemingly drop dead right in the middle of the woods. And they were they
were young. I mean, these people were all under twenty five, they
were all healthy, they were athletic. You're gonna just literally dropped dead and
find bruising on your lungs, It doesn't make a lot of sense. Well,
yeah, I'm sorry, And they do bring up in the theories that
it could be a type of mushroom that they gather, which makes a lot
of sense because if if you're not familiar with what is isn't isn't edible?
I mean that's game over. That's it. I mean they talk about the
thing, just didn't know what mushrooms? Christmas. But yeah, here's the
thing, especially with with the previous U the I'm gonna say it, did
love pass or whatever however you pronounce it. They found those people. Not
only were they found in a way that was not you know, um relatable
to like an avalanche, which they finally said, you know officially what happened
to them, but they found them in a way that they were running away.
They were running away from something and something caught up with them, and
you know that kind of thing. That's kind of creepy. So don't go
hiking in Russia. What's the point. Come up hiking in New Hampshire.
Come up to the New Hampshire, right, Yeah, it's a way to
go. I don't know some pots of New Hampshire. I'd rather be in
Subama. No, I'm only kidding. We love um. Why don't we
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Welcome back, Everyone's back alone. These milk tracks I'll show here on
the Distant Thunder Radio Networking. This is mcmaloney. What a show somehow we've
put together for you tonight. As for us, very quickly girls, very
famous one one is here? Sure just sort of comes together like really like
I'm getting to vibe you a little sellow. You know you're a little like
Jello? Are you a little standoffish tonight? What's the matter with you?
Are you think so? Yeah? I don't know. Quiet yeah, quiet,
mellow, what's the matter with you? You're the quiet one? You're
the George Harrison another girl? Okay, yeah, look what you become.
So anyway, let's go on. That's John Lennon isn't here tonight, girls,
He's on a secret mission. I mean clark a sorry playing playing drums?
Is switchy right now? And all fall together up there. I thought
you go on one of these secret missions with them. Wouln't you well,
Coco? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Well, if you don't
come as dangerous, then it's just me. I'd be don't come easy,
yeah, I'd be Larry with mowing curly. Anyway, So our natural correspondent
switch basically waked up there in battle quick Michigan, switchy, how are you
doing everything, okay, beyond wonderful. Okay, all right, the hail
looks good and kind of all right, Okay, I like it. My
problem is this, Okay, I don't want to go on and on.
Problem. Well, we have a season desist order. Now we can't talk
about his hair, right, it never grows. He's well quaffed. It
really does grow, Mac, How can I how can a rug grow?
What I mean, it's impossible. If we had that stop motion photography,
you would see it growing, you know, like imagined this is a Disney
production from the sixties, what they did with the flowers and all that stuff.
Yeah, sure, it would be actually see it grow. Huh.
Wow, Well there's a little step in though. Switchies world. Okay,
Well, stop motion must have been a real pain in the ass out Wow,
you're kidding. Make Ray Harry Housing. We studied him in school film
school. I went different kind of stop motion. I went to film school
one Wann't you know that? You know I would go to film school for
that because there's a lot of fun as that aspect of it would be real
fascinating. We had a lot of fun and we sat around watched movies for
three just and did stop motion, figurines, a popun, everything, a
lot of fun. Let me introduce a security chief. Was that Emerson Emerson?
Yes, Emerson College. Yeah yeah, I drove by it a lot.
I actually wanted to go to Emerson. They run Hollywood. Now if
people tell me, yeah, someone has to security chief in Mathun, beautiful
Mathun, Massachusetts. Will the club club nack? Hello, folks, another
excellent night. It's been fun. Is the pool open yet? At your
own compounds? Um? Next month? Next month? Okay, we are
still in complicated and interesting Okay, it didn't At one point you told us
you had a float that carried not only just a couple of cans, to
be able to a whole six pack or a case or something. Dream.
Oh yeah, I had that in Florida for a couple of years. It
was wonderful. Yeah, whole six six pack out there on the float.
Yeah. I never had to get out of the pool. I could sit
back there if nothing. See what he's saying read between the lines there,
folks, what a life? Yeah? Okay, are you up here now
or what? Of course? What compound you? Yeah? This this year
is unique? So I'm up here this year? Right? Okay? Okay,
So we were never in Florida, well not that we know of.
Okay, yeah, let's stick to that story all right. Anyway, let's
let's introduce the beauty of the of the show. Sorry, we already talked,
Raven. How are you doing tonight, Raven? You're still with us?
I'm here and I just realized what we were talking about off air stir
of echoes with Kevin Bacon, not whatever I said before, because I know
I messed it up right. Yeah, how about the opening scene and playing
strains and automobiles. He's in that. Yeah, he's running for he's running
for the taxi with against Steve Martin. Okay, he takes the taxi from
him, take it. It's good. But anyways, yes, thank you
for having me. I love. I always look forward to on Tuesday nights.
Really yeah, okay, I do too. One lives for this,
I do. Okay. I stay up all night Monday waiting for this,
do you really? Yeah? Okay, I can't sleep. That's I'm just
up all night playing, falling asleep at the microphone because you can sleep the
night before you so nervous and uh, you know, her countenance, her
beauty, okay, hang on her intelligence, wait a minute, okay for
eighteen year old voice. We have eighteen year old voice. Wow, we
have a special guest with us, Jesse Quanzi up there in the Great State
of Antana. It turns out I was waiting to say Minnesota, Mac whe
where is he is? He located Montana? You remember the Dentiflis state.
As it turns out, Jessie, how you doing good? Thank you?
Thank you. Jessie is an Iraqi War veteran, but he also runs a
podcast called mud Pie where he does some very fringe stuff. Have him to
do with the paranormal UFO, so on and so forth. Thanks for joining,
you know, I want to gloss over his Iraqi War stuff. But
okay, we were talking off air. I think or hope some of it
was on there. It's amazing. I can't imagine me hanging out there if
there weren't any shots fire, the shells going over my head. That's that,
like, is a place there I would even think about call And what's
the point, you know what I mean? It's it's I hate to say
this, and and just you can you know, say I'm wrong. But
it's like there's certain parts of the globe that the people who live there are
happy with a certain style of civilization. You shouldn't bother them, you know
what I mean? I mean Afghanistan, and in there you have the twain
doesn't meet, you know, and somehow you just gotta figure out and if
there exist, if there wasn't oil there, I'm sorry, we wouldn't know
where the freak kuwait was. I'm sorry. You know, if they grew
bananas there, who cares. But that's just because that's where civilization stopped.
Yeah, that's the word thing about it. Yeah, that's the weird point
about it. It could end there too, so who knows. But but
let me just ask you this, Yes, you know that you're I reck
what I've always wanted to ask. So you know, if you're if you're
part of one of these groups, right, one of these you know,
anti US groups, and you ambush you know, some US service members,
right, don't they know at some point like an eight ten is going to
show up and just it's gonna be all over, do you know what I
mean? I mean, that's usually how it ends, right, I mean
possibly, but when you put out like if you think about it, if
the shoe was on the other foot, like what if someone came into our
home and conducted operations constantly. I could imagine that regardless of what was going
to be at my friend or I would still do everything I could to secure
my own home. So as the invader, we sometimes forget that people are
still protecting their life from us, right, regardless of what the outcome for
them might be. That's the most important thing. Yeah. See, that's
the sad thing is a lot of people just over the past twenty years,
when they see that American flag coming, it isn't like we think it should
be, you know what I mean, It's like, oh, no,
what's going to happen here? You know? And they call them up.
They don't know, Yeah, but called them right exactly. But you know,
I mean that's just so when you were over there, did you ever
see anything like very very odd, very odd, very things just still think
about they don't be paranormal, just like people acting odd or something like the
show. Nothing, nothing too terribly odd. I mean, I've spent a
lot of time working by myself. I worked a lot and might shift stuff
a lot of like in my own out on the airfield type thing. I
mean, cultures were different. That was it's I mean, just getting used
to being in a combat zone in the desert. That was a weird part
about the whole thing, But once you kind of get your head wrapped around
that, it's I don't think it's anything too strange from what I expected going
over there. Probably, But do you do. Are you in constant fear
of like getting mortid or something rockets dropped on you when you're over there?
Yeah? Yeah, I couldn't take Yeah, that's pretty much happened multiple days
a week, like we would have every Thursday, no matter what, we
would get rocketed for sure, and then every couple of days after that.
Really yeah, I mean, just so they are they just letting you know
they're they're that type of thing and trying to do as much damage as possible.
I mean, anything that you can possibly do to slow down the mission.
Especially when we were in Dune are smaller base as only like a half
mile long, we would get rocketed five days a week. Really yeah,
wow, I don't know how. It's just not me. I barely made
it in the Boy Scouts. I could not be it's weird the first time,
it must be, yeah, yeah, but do you get used to
it? How do you get used to someone trying to, you know,
kill you with the rocket I mean, you don't really have a choice.
I suppose it's I mean, I can't go anywhere. So at a certain
point you just recognize that, especially with rocket fire and mortar fire, that
you either are in the right place or you are in the wrong place,
and there's not really a lot you can do. So once you kind of
wrap your head around now that it's one hundred percent out of your control,
when it comes to a non tactical situation where you're just having incoming fire incoming
rounds, I mean, I really stressed about you got something to do?
So, yeah, I can't. You can't prepare for it. You can
prepare for the theater that you're going to be in, the mission you're going
to be in, but you prepare for the actual object. And okay,
let me ask you something there, Wall Hero, did you prepare to go
to New Rhode Island? I was totally taken by surprise. I was totally
happy training reserves in Guantanamo. Really okay, and we're going to Tan right
now. We're going on my Tan and watching some Russian marines every so long.
Every so when you had when you're in the mood. But listen,
let me ask something. When you were in Newport, didn't you also your
jobbed there was like splicing film, that's right. I worked in the motion
picture projector uh lending library, if you will, where they lent you a
projector or they and they lent you movies over the fleet. And then you
used to drive the movies are very important to the fleet. Didn't you drive
home? I was close enough to drive home almost every day. Wow,
thank you for you. I really don't Danny mouse away from my home base
in Massachusetts. Wow, okay for it. But that wasn't enough. I
had so little to do a Newport and stayed on the ship only when I
had duty. Okay that They said, one, how would you like this?
How about some how about some work at the at the shipyard in Chilstown,
right right across the street from where you kind of grew up. Exactly.
I just run across the express be home, a lot of boats coming
and drove a haul. One's going to get gutted. How I'd let you
work on the one that's getting gutted. And after install, I think,
no, you just gotta gut things. Show up at nine leave about three
thirty four o'clock. Yis helping the expressway and they call a temporary additional duty.
Ta da, you get paid extra for that? Really paid? I
get paid extra? Wow, huh okay, good for you. Yeah,
every two weeks for working at the overhaul. And I know no yet calling
made it the child stall, because if they did, they all talk my
language. Can you believe it? They said, this is a mistake.
It was so weird. Jesse, how that experience. I wasn't really nervous
about joining the navy. He was. It was nineteen sixty eight. Weird
things were going on in nineteen sixty eight. Yes, especially a democratic convention
blah blah bla blah, ancient history to raven in men, and weird time
to be in the service. So it was kind of a little nervous about
it. Go ahead, you know, I spent half of it in school.
It seemed like at et school, electronic school. I gotta find some
music to put behind this. This is too much, so I should I
should have reenlisted just as a ingratitude. I should have done like another four
years. I don't want to bring this up, but I was in the
reserve for a while, but you know I didn't really do it. We
have to get the switch. Didn't you have like a wound that caused you
to faint when you worked in a pillow factory. I get time for that
and we'll just seconds. You lost blood from an action, and that happened
in a pillow factor at a part time job at my father's a pillow factory,
and some of those pillows for Jordan Marsh and some of those clubs.
Yes, go ahead, So I'm cutting pillow ticking ahead, comes in four
two in sheets, cutting get in twenty one inches right like electric cutter,
and I'm trying to keep the material from fluttering up and down with the blade
because the blade was dull. I should have fifteen seconds, go ahead,
and I cut my finger, Yes, blood everywhere, m Yes. I
went down to the office and it's called you know, somebody driving me to
yes, to the hospital, and I fainted in front of my girlfriend who
was working in the office. Okay, yeah, cool, then you ask
grand as they're wheeling you up afterwards. It was really my girlfriend at the
time, but okay, really yeah, our girlfriend after that afterwards? Yeah,
oh really, yes, yeah, you like the sight of Wow.
Yeah, we dated for about a year and then we just weren't hitting it
off. Nice Portuguese girl from some of all, and I said, well,
no hard feelings. Let's go to the next Portuguese picnic. And I
want you to meet a friend of mine, my best friend. Oh that
fixed them up. Yes, and we've heard a best friend. Yes,
my best friend from high school, the next door to me, the right
deal, right, and he's he's been married ever since, right, and
has like at least six grandchildren, maybe more. It's hard to keep trolling
to go to sleep every Christmas car they got every Christmas like at the big
grandfriend. You still think about her you introduced in other words, let me
review here. So the girl they knew fainted in front of from the loss
of blood from getting the injury and the pillow factory. You went out with
her for a year, then you introduced her to your best friend. They
got married exactly right, and they've been happily married like two years longer than
I have happily married. Yep. Okay, definitely you have a dream about
her, Yes, you do. Well, No, you don't shut up,
really don't like well, only because it's what happens only because our five
five year reunions coming up again. All right, go ahead, I hope,
I'll hope of fifty five years after the hell it is still ahead.
Get six yay. So every time we go to reunion, she wants to
sit beside me if I'm a girlfriend, yeah, yes, and talk about
all this stuff, some stuff. I'm going wow, we did that too.
I reminded her for a year. It sounds like I dated her for
ten years. Go ahead. She's thinking about you go ahead please, and
then we can't her husband, it says, my buddy says, don't worry
about I've heard these stories within times. Really okay. Yeah, we did
a lot of things in a short period of time. But man, I
didn't know we were that busy. Raven, please save us. Yeah,
tell us the female point of view. Okay, go ahead, we're gonna
talk about No. No, no, we're talking about this off air.
No. No, we can always edit it out, say go ahead,
really, wow, that's here it she is, okay, good. I
don't know. I don't know how to say this without sounding like really nasty.
Weed it out. It's I mean, she's not being quite truthful though.
That's the thing, like she's lying about it, No, lying about
how she she's still she's still not lying about her endearment towards me. H
like me, like putting things into your head that she is saying, Yeah,
we did this together, but like it was basically like a fantasy of
what she wanted to do with you. Does that make sense? Maybe?
Think she's being honest the things we did. There were some things I had
to really be reminded. Oh I really do that? I forget right,
That's what I'm saying. Right, And do you really remember it? Or
did she put that in your head? Wow? Know what I mean?
I mean, there's a lot of things she reminded me of doing that I
remember doing. Can I ask them? Did you see a UFO anywhere?
Drag it back? But other than maybe a text message once a while or
an email hash they ever communicate with it? But don't you think don't you
think, Raven, I'm sorry to drag this down. Who knows? But
don't you think if she sits, makes a point of sitting beside him every
time she sees him, why would she do that? Why wouldn't she just
give him a cold shoulder? That's what I'm saying, like to me,
if you're going to make a point to do that, you're trying to prove
something to to to like like I thought about that, like look what look
I become. But her husband's always saying one, oh yeah, I'm for
him to pay off how much time he would have never met her if it
wasn't for me. I see, that's what makes us so odd because she
didn't work. I mean they try to be like, oh, look at
how great he is with me. He didn't like you, you know what
I mean, the whole thing. And that's where it's like a little messy
because why would she continuously remind you of things? Right, because she's looking
to start up something that's there. No ways, Now my wife doesn't like
been there, done that. Sorry, my wife doesn't go to the reunions.
Is it's not my crowd, Yeah, convenience, it's my reunion.
She's never been to any of my every five year reunions. Yeah. I
only missed one when I was in I was deployed. I couldn't. One
of the things that the Navy screwed me out of is going to one of
my reunions. Really, yeah, they did that to you of how the
schedule. It was a conflict, Raven. Can I just say, yeah,
we're gonna have to take what you just said and yeah, put in
them and analyze it something, right? Is it any wonder why guys are
crazy? Do you know what I mean? Speaking for all guys everywhere,
to hear that explanation of why your old girlfriend would sit beside you from the
you know, from the guys putting view itself. I think they started on
my guys were crazy, Let's go crazy. We got twelve minutes written.
We're all wild? Is that everyone's crazy? That's a whole other episode.
Okay, we're all nut. What I have to say is that I did
look forward to that experience every five years. I did look forward to it.
Really, I can't. I can't ever say you like the attention him?
Are you kidding him? I'm an attention addict. Honestly, I used
to be shy as hell. I used to be wicked. Ships to high
school, I was wicked shock. Can you believe it wasn't No, I
would never even have gotten a band. I was shy. Really yeah it
was Marachi band were even a rock man. I sang LaBamba one time.
I was faking Spanish was pretty good. Had to be there experienced. Anyway,
back to Barbara, who was That was her American name. Her real
name was Fernanda, and I was when I was dating her. I was
the first guy to come into her life to date her and didn't need a
chaperone. The chaperone would would typically be her sister slightly younger, but you
know, in the in the back seat, just hanging out. That's how
I was supposed to work. When I met her dad, he decided she
didn't need a chaperone. That was the first time in her life she ever
went on a date and didn't need a chaperone. Was with me. Yeah,
he knew you a hamlet. I wasn't gonna say it, but there
must be something to that. Wow, let's get it all out. He
saw that estrogen load in my face, I guess. And wait a minute,
this guy, this guy's no braw. I'm sure if he's a guy
problem. Really wasn't your first date, like they told your fortune of something
that you went to a first That was my first date with Eileen? Oh,
I say o, Yeah, there's many women. And when his wife
was a medium and did and did automatic writing, and we went to a
seance and it was turned into an automatic writing session too. But did the
ghost say, get rid of this guy? You know what? I wish
I had recorded the content. I didn't know that was going to happen.
Okay, yeah, okay, but you got married anyway, and you're happily
married for many years. Yeah, I mean Eileen draws your rangel. Yes,
I gotta tell you about that exercise, Okay, yeah, I just
don't want to go in there and talk about it. But why she didn't
like it? She can see your angel and draw it, and she's all
of a sudden she's a fantastic artist, but she's really the Sime. Tell
the truth now, Okay, ready, she didn't like cokeoing me. She
loves you guys, she's worried about me. No what hang around with us?
Yeah? Yeah, okay, that says it all right? How much
time do we have left? I don't know. I'm gonna keep trying.
Switchy, I'm so sorry, and Jesse, I'm sorry. Better better to
have a decent segment for Corless, okay, which was trying to do the
math here? So uh we started ten right, so uh we got we
got six minutes, six minutes to go? Why don't we do kind of
stop? Anything I've been saying is really the God's truth? Is No?
I understand that. Yeah, hey, listen, it's not a bit I'm
joking around. No, I understand because I've heard the story number times before.
But I will tell you that and this my shock out listeners. Okay.
At one point I was known as doctor Love and strangers would call me
up out of the blue that would just get my number and ask me for
romantic advice. Can you see me? Can you see me in that role?
Yeah? Really? I think I think the Irish are well suited for
that role. You have any problem with that? Write the face, the
kiss dropped the jack? Yeah? Anyway? And where is my Italian side
comes out? Okay? Crying, emotion emotional? Ye, eating, I'm
really get my spaghetti and I'm like, really a mess made with tears?
Yes, yeah, that's that's the part that all right, it takes over
my psyche. What do you think of the chances out that we're actually requoting
this? This is price, This is good all right. I don't know
the technical problem yet, We're gonna have to have technic. The numbers are
going up the meeting. We're gonna have to add that meeting. Okay,
I mentioned things and you know, like a sit down and blow me off
or anything. Okay, all right, all right, then anyway, the
machine see an upgrade. The machines needed an upgrade, right, So let's
get to the plug. So Home Shrut Troops Home Shreat Troops. It's a
military charity that spends eighty eight cents on every dollar goes two veterans. And
what they do is that they design and build homes for Iraqi and also Afghan
Wall veterans, people who have washed limbs, and they build the home,
you know, to the specifications of someone who might be in a wheelchair or
whatever. Everything is wider, the steps are easier to get up, and
so on. And then they just give him the keys, no mortgage,
nothing, They deserve it. And you know, they've built something like four
hundred and twenty homes in fifteen years. It's insane. Holmes Rot Troops.
Eighty eight cents of your dollar goes to the charity, and that's very very
high in the charity biz. Also, our good friend Ross Shop, who's
gonna be here. Let me plug this in a couple of weeks who are
going to have World War two trivia contest, World War Through Trivia contest,
and it's going to be moderated by a good friend, Philip Baines, who
is the owner of Winning Moves that makes risk and monopoly and so on and
so forth. And he's going to donate a special edition called the European Risk
Game. Okay, it's I guess it's all europe or whatever limited edition.
That's going to be the prize. Okay, who's gonna win between let's say
you and me, Coco X, you know, who knows? Could you
imagine living in London during the Blitz? Well it depends, you know what
a pain in the neck that would be. Right, Well, just at
five in the afternoon they knew when the would come. My soul would leave
my body. Okay, and then you and then when it was over you
you know you you always walked around with a little box of chocolate, gas
masks, food something that's you know, you know, and you lift your
life right, yeah, well you know you were in war. It was
a water, wasn't Keith rich Is born during the Blitzer on the Plazz The
bomb just missed him. That's something like that. The story of his life
took out the cellar and the trombone player remember that last week. Holy cow,
there's so many trombone player jokes out there, so look at so anyway,
rush Shop and his um English shot. He sounds like the Russia.
But anyway, he's rebuilding a mosquito wall plane from World two. He and
his friends the People's Mosquito Project. It's a wapplane made of wood and they
put two rolls Royce engines on. It is the fastest thing in the water
for about two and a half years, almost as fast as a jet,
so fast that one one says it would outrun the bullets. And it's yeah,
right, and you're gonna take the first ride as a villion in correct?
Can I have them shoot at me and see if I can catch a
bullet. We'd have to slow down order to do that during the first ride.
Yeah, you're gonna do all that. Big deal is no parachute,
and you're gonna wear win those Scott scarves. See what happens. Yeah,
okay, wow, And you're gonna gogles and some Oakley goggles probably okay good,
Yeah, wow, We're gonna have a net on the ground there you're
gonna try to hit the net or no, yeah you okay, hit a
treat maybe. Oh so that's only for going down and we're not going down
go ahead or something like that. Why would why would I bring a parachute?
Mean you're you're confident that they're not gonna crash? Okay, okay,
some while plane that they rebuild these mid out of the Boston wood drunk Irish
englishman, I mean for you know, I mean they're gonna put together and
they're gonna have you going crazy glue cooling it together. Wow, okay,
let me pause. It's really it's an up and coming machine. It's it's
like I think then, but promotes it right, Hey, it's you know,
if they can fly it. Wow, you know who knows? You
know, Let's just see what happens. Let's get Rolls Royce engines in it.
The cockpit. That's probably a drag where a champagne can of right,
yeah, a little tea, yeah, I know that's te cigarette later.
Yeah, And it's you know, in the rose race, if you buy
a rose race, if you know in your world's race, all the wood
in a Rolls race comes from the same tree. And they put that tree
away for you, so if you haven't need to replace them, they go
to that tree. Yeah that's why they cost like about nineteen million dollars.
Yes, yes, that's crazy. It seems like such a waste of a
tree. Well yeah, do that. And if you see gets a sign
the tree, you know, the tree gets residuals. Anyway, so yeah,
so that's Rose Race. So anyway, Yeah, that's the People's Miscuito
project. And also we are now on Seacoast Oldies here in the kind of
north of the moth Shore of Boston in um excited New Hampshire, Portsmouth,
New Hampshire, up in Maine, right along the coast. All you have
to do is download the podcast app from Sea Coast Oldies and all of a
sudden we're there, um right, so close to main we can smell their
clams. But some day ago, so close to Boston that we can smell
the Fenway Park, Fenway Pie, the urinals. Wow remember that? What
do you work for the tourism one? Do you remember that? I remember?
Yeah? Sure, I try to forget it. It turns out.
Okay, let me apologize to our guess. Okay, Jesse, thank you
for joining us you okay, Jesse, thank you for having me. Appreciate
it. You're welcome, right. The name of the beer is first of
the name of the podcast, Mudpie subscribe, Yeah, mudpie dot com.
Okay, that's cool. Yeah. So do you you think you let have
Lynda love Lace on this guy, this guy system. Let's see what happen.
I might have to I might have to track him down and find him
out. That's fine, you'd have to dig her up. Well, she
died, she did? Did she die? Really? On a long time?
Wow? Only a documentary on her that is so good? Really?
Yeah, she's the first point stunt not that does any connection to the guy
that Jesse interviewed. Thank you Jesse for joining us mudpie dot com. Join
us again soon, okay, thank you. Do you have a come out
to this ever? Come out to this part of the world? Have a
come out to ever? Been in New England, Boston? Anything? Not
that far north? I do go to Baltimore every single year. That doesn't
Jersey the Jersey from the Army, But that's about as far over. There's
only a few more hours north. Yeah, hit the road. That doesn't
count. Yeah, okay, you got to loss of Clara logo gas tanks
and I don't think anyone comes. Just yeah with dreams come true. Pass
Richard Fader from Portland, New Jersey. Go past the exits the Camden Yards
and count about five hours and you're good. Yeah, up to Boston and
hang what us see what happens? Okay? You think I rack with something?
Yeah? But anyway, thank you and thank you for your service.
We really appreciate it. Thanky and that's up dot com a really kind of
cool podcast, very fruinje. Okay, thank you. Let's see let's go
to club. Thank you club for watching over us tonight. Okay, well,
thank you for having me. Now listen. Is it just a quincidence
that that you that your shirt matches the color of your microphone? Is that
something you're trying to Oh? No, I always try to get everything,
you know to mad Match. I spent all day doing that. Interesting okay,
And those are real books behind yours. That's some kind of electronic thing
projecting your Wow, look at it, there we go. We're a radio
show, but probably a wing boo wow. Holy cow, yikes. Sorry,
I think that's a that's that's how we carbook. That's the other Jesse
whity Budge is a very famous criminal and murdering everything Austin and some people say
Club looks like him. Sorry, White and Club hufa. Okay, all
right, so let's go to Raven. Raven, thank you for joining us
tonight. Thank you for for having doing what you do. Okay, okay,
And you've made it through the marriage proposals, You've made it through everything
that comes from being torn up in Siberian dreams do come true to happen to
you when you're young. I can have a house a trailer and say,
Mitt Romney is allegedly my husband. Would you like to go across country in
the big like RV camp er thing. That's a dream man. Yeah,
that's really if I can quit my job and get an RV and just,
oh my god, I would really Holy smoke Stevie Nicks and being in an
RV across why don't you just bring out the cat and why don't you just
show the cat now, I've been wanting to do that. Okay, all
right, I'm gonna leave you too alone. You don't have a cookie together,
I'm gonna do Yeah, I'll drive all day. I don't care.
It's just the whole concept. The problem he will drive all day, okay,
But the problem I have is a movies like mock that experience. But
I think that in some cases not all what experience the long distance m RV
Oh that yeah, yeah. There were always comedies. Yeah, they're never
dramas going across the country in the mav maybe you have your friend Q Temple.
There was one movie though that was cool. But Vigo Vigo Mortenstern,
Coco's favorite, my favorite actor is in it. And he's got his band
of his kids, his wife who just died, and they're living they're living
in the in nature and he's in an IV. The guy's inn RV if
they want to go to another part of the country. But the guy from
one of the Rings is drama. That guy did good actor, Like did
he read the script? What was the name of the movie? I just
saw it was? No, it's great. Hi listen, why don't we
so anyway? Switching? Thank you switch? Okay, great to be here.
By the way, Mac. You know I had a karmen Gia and
they had a shrub set aside in case I needed shrub? Did they really
well? That makes sense? Now did you have a common gear. Really,
yeah you really? Sixty seven karmic ghine. I got it in early
seventies and it was rusting away. So a buddy of mine and I bondoed
it and had to replace the bumpers because they rushed it out. So I
had stained wooden bumpers on it for a while. I went all over hill
and that thing. Okay, you know John Keel had a Karmi ghine other
than John Keel. And once upon a time in Hollywood, what was the
kind of Brad Pitt was driving? Who kiss? You know? I don't
know. That's like the go ahead, what what time? And yeah,
look at yeah, we're gonna have to do a show on this because that
is the I can't even time. But it's the worst movie that raven right.
Quentin Tarantine are terrible, correct, terrible, awesome. Let us talk,
let us speak. I love Quentin's Oh oh me hitting on every time.
I haven't I haven't seen Once upon a time in Hollywood yet I've been
a little bit behind moving like give me reservoir dogs all that. Oh Jesus,
oh man, oh, this has all gone wrong. I don't tip
waitresses. Why don't your chip waitresses? Wait yeah right, because I'd like
them to spit in my drink and I'm like, look all right, let's
just go. Let's go. Thank you very much. Thank you. The
mcdonna thing too, is pretty good. Yeah, it must have been.
Thank you, Jesse, thank you, Thank you very much, Jesse,
Thank you club. Okay, classic movie, thank you, Switch. Okay,
we'll talk to you soon. Okay, Raven, thank you very much.
We'll talk to you soon. Though. I want everyone to hang on
everyone, So why don't we do this? Why don't you say until the
next time you hear us, this is mclonney for the entire gang staying,
be safe, be happy, and bye bye