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Breaking down all the exes and os. It's Steve Rivera and Jacin Salmaz.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome

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back to my Iying the Ball,
you know, Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve Ravenna, He's jacins Owis. And now we have Henry with some

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breaking news. This is I on
the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty. All right, for
the first breaking news. The College Football

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Playoff has announced the schedule for the
first ever twelveteen Playoff and the first round

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games will be played on college campuses
starting on December twentieth. And it's interesting

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because there are also will be games
during NFL games, so it will be

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interesting to see how that matches up. Yeah, there was a discussion about

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that because, uh, there's three
there's a triple header set for Saturday,

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December twenty first, and that's the
time when the NFL starts playing Saturday games

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as well. So that discussion about
you know, who's gonna get the radians,

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you know, and all that kind
of stuff. But you know,

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I mean, I don't know what
I'm watching right on that day, but

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who the money on? Yeah,
well, the thing is if I'm gonna

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have money on something, I'm gonna
have money on that. Look, and

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you know, there's a lot of
people saying that that college football should be

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kind of wringing its hands because they're
going to be going up against the NFL,

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because you know, college football generally
doesn't do well when it's up against

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the NFL. But this is the
playoff. I think the playoff is going

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to be incredibly There's so much attention
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especially in this first year. I
think the NFL is the one that needs

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to be worried about whether their Saturday
games are going to get watched in this

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first at least in this first year. Yeah, don't you think that there'sh

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gonna be enough interest because of the
playoffs? Because it is the playoffs and

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by that time, well we'll see. It's hard to say here we are

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in Yeah, but you know it. Look, you're divving up the you're

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divvying up the audience. Right.
Either neither one is going to be happy.

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I think I should say happy.
Both sides are going to lose viewers

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because some you know, you're splitting
them up. Football fans are football fans

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and yes, you've got You know, the NFL fans are a little more

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I don't know, I don't even
saw you, a little more rabid,

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but they seem to be more loyal
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you know, college fan base is
huge, it's huge. You know.

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They don't have one hundred thousand seed
stadiums in the NFL like they do in

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college, so I could be interesting
to see what happens there. They also

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announced that the championship game will be
played on January, and we had twentieth

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that's so late. That's when they
used to play the Super Bowl, right,

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But but going on with the rest
of the schedule. So New Year's

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Eve and New Year's Day are the
quarterfinals, so that's when the top the

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top four seeds play. New Year's
Eve is the is the Fiesta Bowl.

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That's middle of the week, Tuesday
Wednesday. Okay, so no, so

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that week is they pay a week
later? No, it's it's like the

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ten days because it's ten days from
the Saturday, the Saturday first round games

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or on December twenty first, and
then to December thirty first. It's the

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middle of the week. It's a
Tuesday night. Is the Festival, which

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is the first quarter final game,
then another triple header the next day on

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New Year's Day, and that will
not be up against the NFL because the

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NFL doesn't plan on Tuesday Wednesday.
Then the semi finals are January ninth and

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January tenth, Thursday and Friday night, Thursday night and Friday night, and

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then the National Championship on a Monday. So the only time they're gonna be

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up against the NFL is that first
the first round games. I can't wait

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for the I can't wait for the
first playoff. I just think it's gonna

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be ridiculously nuts. It'll be cool
to see it on college campuses, right

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and even and that you know,
and look, you know, I mean,

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there's this little bit of me that
thinks Arizona could be in one of

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those games. See now, I'm
that you are. You are always unrealistic,

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guy that you were talking about unrealistic
And I said, you know,

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I'm too tired. I'm too tired, all right. So next story.

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Former Arizona basketball player Chase Budinger will
compete in the Olympics next month on the

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Beach volleyball team, and he was
named the volleyball magazine's National High School Player

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the Year back in two thousand and
five. Yeah, well, I don't

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know if you remember the Shay,
but because he was a recruit for basketball

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program right back in the day,
lou said that he was the all time

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best recruit he'd ever recruited and signed. I don't know if you remember that.

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It is so he said that,
but there also comes with a caveat

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in terms of his words because at
the time Lout was kind of at the

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end of the career. He needed
to get some positive feedback and get the

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fans getting interest again because Chase came
in, Jordan Hill came in, and

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Nick Wise came in, so he
had to get the people behind him again,

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right, And I'm not doubting Chase's
ability, but that's a hell of

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a statement. That was out of
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the guys that he had at the
time, because Chase Bitinger was no Sean

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Elliott. He was no Sean Elliott
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Bayliss, he was no Jared Bess, he was no Mike Bibbie exactly.

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So he was he was trying to
get people. He was really good,

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but he wasn't. He wasn't.
I remember when he was a freshman and

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I and he had Marcus Williams as
a software and I pulled him aside and

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we talked a little bit, and
says, why don't you just kind of

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take control of the games? You
know you're capable. He says, he

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kind of gave me. He didn't
say he didn't want to be putty.

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He just kind of gave me a
look. And he says, Marcus is

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ahead of me. You know,
he like he he reserved his abilities because

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Marcus was ahead. Yeah. And
Marcus was a pain in the neck.

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He was a paining god. One
of my one of the Arizona basketball players

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that I most disliked in the history
of the program. Yeah, and not

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that he was a really bad dude. He just wasn't a team dude.

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He wasn't. He stood again.
He was the opposite of everything that Luke

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had built him. Very much so, very much so. Next story four

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more of the players suspended gambling,
alongside two Picada, Marcano revealed Athletics reliever

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Michael Kelly, Paudres pitching prospect Jay
Groom, Philly's infield prospect Joseph Rodriguez and

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Diamondbacks reliever Andrew Saalfrank. Now these
four suspended for only one year for just

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betting on big league games that didn't
involve their teams, right, and not

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betting a lot. I mean,
like I think it was, Which one

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was it? Uh? Michael Kelly, the A's guy, He made one

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bet for ninety nine bucks, but
guess what bets? Yeah, yeah,

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that cost him seven hundred and forty
thousand dollars because that's the annual salary.

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And he lost for making that one
bet. And there was one, you

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know, another guy, Yeah,
bet of a whole bunch of games,

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like you know, but he had
like five percent of the success. Yeah,

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there's one guy bet twenty nine times
twenty eight on Major League Baseball,

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four on his team. But he
was also on the injured list at the

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time. But still, guys,
So let me because I don't follow this

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as closely as maybe I should or
whatever. So if it had not been

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on baseball, would you have been
Okay, No, you can't bet on

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any sports? Well, no,
no you can't. You can't. You

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just gotta bet on baseball. You
can bet on basketball, horse racing and

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stuff like, you can't bet on
your sport. That's what it is.

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But you know, it makes sense
again going back to the thing that you're

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gonna get caught. You know,
you're if you're betting on somebody else's on

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somebody else's account or whatever you're doing, they have ways of finding out,

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and people are gonna find out.
So just don't do it. It's crazy.

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And the last story we have,
we got the Women's College World Series

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starting tonight between Oklahoma and Texas,
the final series yep, yep. And

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Oklahoma has won the last three championships
under coach Patty Gosso. Yeah, so

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they're going after the first four peet
in forever and ever who's ever happened before?

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But Arizona is in that group of
Arizona, Ucla and Oklahoma. They

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went eight straight, eight straight to
the champions championship. Here's winning five of

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those. Ye kind of still tells
you that Arizona was and is still a

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blue blood and still among the elites, but that it's been a while while.

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Does everybody cut up? Yeah?
Everybody cut up, and that's and

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that's what it is. And the
two of those teas are headed to the

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to the next conference, the Big
Big Ten and the Arizona's going to the

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Big twelve. Yep, yeah right, uh so Jeff Goodman has reported and

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we haven't had any other confirmation of
it. So you tried this lightly that

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the Arizona Duke game in Tucson this
coming season is going to be November twenty

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second, which is the Friday after
Thanksgiving, which would put it the night

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before the Arizona a SU home football
game. But that is the case.

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What a weekend. I can't I'll
send your racking my brain thinking has there

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ever been a better weekend of sports
at the U of A. Probably in

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one, you know, in one
weekend like that. Probably not because of

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this. No, they're probably not
Arizona Duke, Arizona A Football. Yeah,

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they played they played Duke in November
tenth or something like that. This

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it was like second game into the
season. And now then it's gonna be

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fun. Yeah, it's gonna be
I can't wait for that. I can't

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wait. Give a prediction. Although
it's way early, I think the ticket's

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gonna go for a lot of money. I think they will too. Six

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hundred at least in the North Carolina
game when they came in. Yeah,

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yeah, it was like nobody was
nobody was going because they were selling them

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all. Yeah, no, that's
gonna be It's gonna be a hot ticket

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for sure, for sure. But
it'll be fun. And I'm glad.

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I just see they're doing this,
you know, good Man he reported this

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in a in a thing about you're
showing that John Shire, the coach at

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Duke, what he's doing. They're
gonna play They're gonna play Kentucky on the

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twelve on November twelve in Atlanta.
They're gonna be at Arizona on the twenty

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second, Then on the twenty six
they're gonna play Kansas in Vegas, and

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then in the middle of their acc
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Garden. I just wish more coaches
would do that, you know. Yeah,

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I mean I liked what Tommy Lloyd
did last year. Look, it

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got him a lot of mileage.
You know, he lost a couple,

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but he won a bunch of them
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a number two seed in the tournament. Well it's funny because and I think

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that maybe Bruce I was at the
game, but Bruce kind of maybe referred

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it later that Tommy won the game, and I asked him a question,

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what does this mean? And what
does this mean? Tommy to win this

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because you said, you know,
you got to learn a lot from the

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game. He says, well,
it's gonna teach it or tell us that

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or give us a thing. It
doesn't matter that you win in November.

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It's what happens in March, right, like everything else, right, and

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you prove that, you know,
you don't want to, it's not peak,

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but every game, every game is
a season, and you have to

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play like that. You have to
play like that all the time. Yes,

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yes, so that should be fun. You know, it's funny because

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Steve had a lot of time to
think while I was done and run.

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Oh no, that's no, No, it's fine now, No, this

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is you know, it's kind of
like, you know Arizona. You know,

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Arizona lost its last game the tournament. It's kind of like, Okay,

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all the air Zona seasons are over, right, they're all over.

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We're in the pack. We're in
the Big twelve now right, we're in

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the Big twelve. We start talking
about being in the Big twelve, you

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know, Big twelve football season coming
up. It's kind of like, Okay,

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we've really slammed the door shut on
the Pac twelve. It's ancient history.

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Now, not ancient history, but
it's history. We're over. We

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are now in the Big twelve.
Thinking about all of Arizona sports being in

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the Big twelve and really what that
means, and like, okay, we're

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talking about a Big twelve football season, a Big twelve volleyball season, big

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club basketball season, Big twelve,
you know, baseball and softball. So

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we talked about this a couple of
days ago, maybe last week, where

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you know, these teams the well
attended in football, well attended, definitely

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well attended basketball, and everyone's gonna
come in for a rude awakening in terms

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of being on the road. Yes, and you know that the people on

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the road who can say come on
Spider. Spider said to the fly,

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you haven't experienced this. Yeah,
Hey, Arizona, this isn't Stanford,

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this isn't this isn't hos Pavilion,
This isn't a gilt coliseum or five thousand

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people show up for an Oregon State
game. You get ready and I you

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know what to me, but see
to me, that's exciting to me,

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And I think it's gonna be exciting
to the players. How many times have

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we said, you go to one
of those gyms and you play like crap

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because there's no atmosphere. I think
they get hopped up notorious for that.

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Do you remember because we were both
at this game in eighty eight? I

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think it was in Oklahoma. I
remember they went to Oklahoma. Were both

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covered it. It was after because
they played they played Oklahoma. No,

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you have to be covered. I
was like my first year covering the team

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because it came back and played in
eighty nine. They didn't play. They

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didn't play Oklahoma during that during the
eighty eight season eighty seven, then it

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was my first year, second year
covered the team. It went to normal.

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We went to Norman. I thought
for sure, No, yeah,

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yeah, you're gonna have to look
that. I was what. I can't

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remember the atmosphere. I remember because
the first time I went to Norman was

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for football. Oh I thought just
basketball, Yes, yes, going to

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Norman for football. Do you remember
much of the atmosphere. I remember being

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on the field and the Crown Yeah, the Crown field, But I don't

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remember the atmosphere of the crowd.
I just don't. I don't know I

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thought I thought their stadium was a
rinky dingk stadium compared No, that's what

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I that's what because we were on
the field. Yeah, I expected more

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exactly. That's why I asked.
I can't remember because it didn't impress me,

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or it didn't impress me at all. And I don't know why,

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because you walked up and it looked
like a high school stadium. That was

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just it was weird. Yes,
yes, right, yes, you know

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they were like they were, but
it wasn't a It wasn't a stadium like

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a concrete stadium like Arizona's was.
It was like bleachers, you know,

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but a lot of them, you
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But no, I was not pressed
by impressed by that at Oklahoma at all.

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Nineteen ye idiot. Yeah first,
yeah, our first the first you're

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covering the team, right, Yeah, So I asked you I thought,

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sorry, that's why I asked.
I wasn't. I'm sure. I'm sure

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things in the league are going to
be crazy, crazy football basketball, but

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it's gonna be fun. Yeah.
But yeah, you know, while they're

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staying as much bigger. I'll shoot, we got a call, uh whoever's

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call? Maybe that's maybe that's Garcia. Yeah, go ahead and picking all

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right, this is I am the
ball. Hey you guys, it's Richard.

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I heard you talking about Oklahoma,
so I thought i'd call it rich

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You gotta be real quick because they
only got about twenty seconds. A lot

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of the Sooners are entering the SEC
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activities for three days. Well there's
only got anything playing for the Big twelve.

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Well maybe they need to know,
Maybe they need to hear that and

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do something. Agree, packed your
bags, let's go alrighty man, thank

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take our break. We're to come
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Now in the follow we have Roberto
Garcia from FC two Son Women,

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the head coach. How are you
doing, Roberto, Good afternoon, How

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are you? We're doing well?
Thank you? You're doing very well in

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your start. What's going on?
I thank god. We've got a very

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good young team here, great facilities, great support if the squad has been

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great in the locker room. So
all momentum headed in the right direction.

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So your approach when you got this
job, I mean, what's your what's

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your approach this? What do you? I mean obviously you want to compete,

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you want to win matches in the
whole bit. But what's in your

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mind, what's the most important thing
that you're trying to achieve it with a

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team like FC two Son, to
be fair, I mean to be fair

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when we took over the program.
It's getting a nice combination of one Tucson

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players, getting a nice blend of
youth and senior players, and then two

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representing the badge as best as we
can. Obviously, there is a heritage

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the time behind FC two Son,
So making sure that the players understand that,

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you know, we play with pride
and we wear that bad with pride

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and win loser draw, we stick
together and the locker room sticks together,

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and we move forward as a group. I'm assuming that you do have a

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lot of locals on the on the
roster, if not most of them,

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if not all of them. I
would say ninety five percent of our team

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this year is local Tucson talent.
Easy to choose from because there is that

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growing, growing, not trend growing, trend. I guess a very quality

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athletes soccer. Yeah, no,
absolutely, but you know that's Acose on

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youth side is now part of the
Girls Academy, which is a national platform.

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So a lot of the girls come
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it's the toughest conference in the country, and you know it prepares them well

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to come now play in this environment. And it's been it's been a good

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transition. But what attracted you to
the position the passion for Tucson. Yeah.

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I mean I've been in Tucson now
for six seven years and since day

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one, it's really there's enough talent
in Tucson. It's given the girls and

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twos on the opportunity, the women
and twos on the opportunity to get to

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these levels, to get to these
platforms really and show their their ability.

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There's been a lot of success in
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last year, but the previous years
they had any pressure, if that's the

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right word. No, to be
fair, I'm very clear with the players,

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the pressure is not winning. The
pressure and how we carry ourselves and

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how we move forward together as a
group. And being young, you learn,

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you make mistakes, but you know
this is a long term project,

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the long term vision, and you
know, it's been fantastic thus far.

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So if you had to characterize your
team and the type of players that you

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have, both whether it's you know, the type of athletes they are or

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the type of people that they are. What what what do you think is

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the best aspect of of your team? What do you what are they best

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at? Or what what do you
feel strongest about what they do? As

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I said, for me one,
with our staff, right, it's we

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stay, we stay humble, and
we work hard, you know, And

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I think the locker room is bought
into that, right. And we've got

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a nice combination of talented technical players, we've got a nice combination of athletes.

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We've got, you know, a
nice combination. And they're just all

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good human beings, right, And
I think that's the biggest, biggest thing

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for us. We stay, we
work hard, we stay humble, we're

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honest, we're good people. And
then once we get on the field,

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it's easy that the rest is easy. Well, it's easy enough to get

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you to being number sixteenth in the
country at this point. Are you surprised

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by that? Are you acception of
it? We're less than we're we're fortunate

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to be here today, right,
But we don't hang our hats on that.

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We still have game to play and
we move on. You know.

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I think it's a pat on the
back for the ladies to see their hard

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work is coming through. But I
think, you know, we've got two

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tough games we play Friday night and
Saturday night, and we've got to move

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forward. I was in, say, I saw the schedule you guys,

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back to back? Is that unusual? And how hard is that? Yeah?

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No, difficult, I mean,
and we're very lucky. We have

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a large, robust roster, you
know, so we have plenty of players

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that we can rotate into the games
and into the system a little bit.

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But no, that's usually not normally
we usually don't put it back to back.

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But it's going to be a tough
forty eight hours for us to get

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through to try to get two results. I'm curious you talked about having youth

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and older players. What you probably
have some high school kids sophomores or whatever,

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and then what's the oldest. A
lot of college kids that have come

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back. You know, you're probably
early twenties, but we're somewhere between that

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high school age sophomore, junior,
high school to that mid twenties, and

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how's that mix? It must be
very good obviously, but it's been great,

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to be honest, it's been great
the younger players about the college players

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that kind of mentor them. So
we've been blessed in that. And that's

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the talk with the senior players that
you're here, you know, mentoring the

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younger players that want to be an
aspire to be at the college level someday.

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So it's been a good it's been
a good combination, a good mix.

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And I think Saturday night last Saturday, when we played and we scored

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the game time goal at the end, that celebration where it was young players,

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old player, that didn't matter,
everybody celebrated together. That that's where

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we are, all right. So
Steve, Steve is the soccer guy in

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the room. He's got kids that
played college soccer. And when I'm not

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so, explain to me as a
as somebody who I you know, I

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watched soccer every four years when the
World Cup comes up. Okay, but

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explain to me what I would what
I would notice about your team or what

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I would see on the field about
the type of team that you are and

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how you play. Yeah, but
with with our youth, with our age,

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with our experience, we're going to
be very tactically set up every game.

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Every game will set up tactically a
little bit different against the opponent based

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on what the opponent. You know, it's a fun little chess match,

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but what you'll see is a fun
possession style. I'm going to try to

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play, you know, high press
and defending when we lose the ball in

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a nice combination of possession with we
want to be creative, dynamic and score

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goals. That's the number one thing
right there. So Roberto, you've said

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you've been here six years, so
Jonathan must have found you somewhere, and

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you probably know a lot of the
girls anyway because you've been around it.

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Yes, Sarah, I was brought
in six years ago by John Perlman and

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Kate Norton. Back then it was
a Tank con Verde Soccer Club and then

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the merger between TSA and Tank con
Verde which became St. Tucson And this

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is where we are today. Okay, So you kind of you you know

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your players because you've seen them grow
up. Yes, Yes, a lot

407
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.559
of the players either I have coached
throughout the years or have been a part

408
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.519
of the system, the youth system
where I've had some experience with them.

409
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:17.400
So when when you get players at
this level, at this age, what

410
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.960
are the expectations in terms of you
know, I guess and for lack of

411
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:23.240
a better way to say it,
you know, how good do they need

412
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.680
to be? Wait, let's say
compared to a high school player or whatever

413
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.480
to be able to you know,
be on on on the team that that

414
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.480
you're coaching, and what you expect
of them in terms of, you know,

415
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.920
just their abilities. Yeah, soccer
IQ. Soccer IQ definitely has to

416
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.279
be high. Right. You can
be as technically good as you want to

417
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.839
be, you can be technically gifted, but ultimately the soccer i Q your

418
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.640
thought process that that's got to be
at a high level to play to play

419
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:53.640
here? Right? Right? Did
you? Having grown up? I will

420
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:57.160
have been here for a while now, it's not a spire, But you

421
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:02.759
wanted to coach at this level and
what's the future look like for you?

422
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.680
Yeah? Yeah, the future is
open. I mean obviously we have an

423
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:11.519
amazing managed ownership group here with John
and the Kyle and the support that we

424
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.200
have here, and I don't know
what the big picture, to be fair

425
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.720
is going to be. But in
the meantime, right it's trying to really

426
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.319
represent this town on whatever platform and
whatever league that we're in as best as

427
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.880
we possibly can. You know,
to be honest with you, this wasn't

428
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:30.880
in the plans and it just happened
to work out late in the process and

429
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:37.000
I was glad to take it.
Tell me you have games this weekend so

430
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.200
far, how has the crowd.
I know it's going to get hot,

431
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:45.119
get hot er. How's the crowd
been and your fan base? It's been

432
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:51.400
absolutely amazing. The fans were The
fans were our twelfth player last weekend and

433
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.079
got us through that late tying goal, which was a big goal. We

434
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.519
played delcol the five seed in the
country, and I'll tell you the fan

435
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.240
where the one that really got the
players going at the end there, and

436
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:06.640
we kept pushing and pushing. It
was amazing. No cool. So you

437
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:11.880
mentioned you've got the Friday at seven
o'clock a game for kicking cancer, right,

438
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.880
that's the promo, and then Saturday
it's Pride Night against seven o'clock,

439
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.680
both at Keino. Just some of
your thoughts on the way all this is

440
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.480
put together and the organization that that
you're with and the things that they're trying

441
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.599
to do with you know, the
games and do attract fans and those kinds

442
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.519
of things. Yeah, absolutely,
I think they're the I mean, FC

443
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.440
Twuson is the premiere program in the
city of Tucson. I think, you

444
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:41.359
know, ownership here puts everything first
class, top notch, so left unturned,

445
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.119
you know, and really trying to
connect with the community and that kind

446
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.400
of stuff. And that's the tue. That's part of the reason why I

447
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:53.200
chose to take the position when it
was brought to my attention, and I'm

448
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.519
proud and proud to be a part
of it. No great, Okay,

449
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.680
how can they find tickets? Just
go to the website. They go on

450
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.480
the website and the link is right
there, right there. Okay, it's

451
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:08.039
fantastic. We'll continued success in your
first year. Maybe we'll get out there

452
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:12.680
at some point. It is a
bit hot there, Roberto. We'd love

453
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.680
to have you guys out. We'd
love to have all our fans and chuffon

454
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.200
come out. Keep pushing these girls. Reality is probably a lot of these

455
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.240
players are known by people in the
community because they all local high school kids,

456
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.000
right, So love to have everyone
out there. Great, Thank you,

457
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.440
Robert, appreciate your time. Yeah, take care. I do hear

458
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:36.359
that heat is good for the arthritis, so I must I know. But

459
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:44.400
stairs at stadium stairs are not travel
you know. There are a lot of

460
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.319
stairs at this house that I said
not. It's not a double level,

461
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:48.839
which is like, you know,
the the living room, you gotta go

462
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.720
down three stairs. You know,
the back porch you gotta go down.

463
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.920
Man. I might have came back
with some so with sore kneeses from you

464
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.200
don't. Did you read the book
some of it? No, I never

465
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.839
got my hands on it. I
never got my hands on it. Yeah,

466
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.720
he had it there. I saw
him with it. It just made

467
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.079
a trip. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well he was reading some Liz Cheney

468
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.880
books. There's a lot of political
taco there while we were there when the

469
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.279
Trump verdict came out, so she
don't even talk about that. I started

470
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.640
to go there anyways, but just
you know that some of that stuff was

471
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.039
going on. But no, I
didn't. I did not get my hands

472
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:26.119
on the book. Actually, you
know, Richard called didn't at the last

473
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.200
second. I think Arizona Party not
deeds to take advantage. But that would

474
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.720
be a cool thing. That would
be a cool thing. I think,

475
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.559
you know, again, there's some
sort of introduction, right, you know

476
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:37.599
to the Big Twelve. You know, I was thinking on you know,

477
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.440
on the way in my brain was
swirling that you know, we need to

478
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.000
start, you know, maybe throughout
the summer, get you know, some

479
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.960
of the Big twelve beat rider stuff
in here, just talking about Okay,

480
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.359
what are we looking at? What's
it going to be like? Uh not

481
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.359
just you know, not just from
a football or basketball standpoint, just being

482
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.279
in the league. That would be
uh. I think that's a great idea,

483
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.839
the equivalent of the sky ride.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, talk

484
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:06.480
about you know, what's it like
going to you know games that Iowa State.

485
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.680
You know how cold is it could
get over there, you know in

486
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:13.960
the wintertime and you know, I
mean look, I mean even yeah,

487
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:19.279
I mean look the coldest it got
was was you know Pullman, you only

488
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.720
had to do that once or twice
a year. You know, Seattle would

489
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.359
it would be rainy, but not
so freezing that you hated it. You

490
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.759
know, San Francisco it's always cold
there, but not not like you know,

491
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.000
you're not shoveling snow. And stuff. You know, so it's like,

492
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.640
okay, you uh yeah, you
came around after I was, you

493
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:40.039
know, gone from covering stuff.
But what I think fans are going to

494
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:45.119
have to understand is that when you
head to the Big twelve Menus in December,

495
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:50.839
January, February, you better be
ready to go with some stuff.

496
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.480
Yeah. It'll be different. Yeah, but it's gonna be fun because it

497
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.680
will be different because it's different.
You know, I was listening to the

498
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:00.400
podcast I listened to, and that's
what the guys were saying, you know,

499
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:07.079
on the on the podcast saying whether
you like or dislike what's happened with

500
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:15.880
the conferences. Yeah, you gotta
admit that when this season football season starts,

501
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.920
it's gonna be fun. You know, there's gonna be more big games,

502
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.160
right Oklahoma and in Texas, they're
gonna have to be playing Alabama and

503
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.480
Georgia and l s U. And
there's there's more of these games that are

504
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:34.839
gonna be gonna be taking place.
No, we're kind of get you to

505
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:42.799
hit his bike. You know,
there's gonna be there's gonna be more games

506
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.000
like that. You know, Arizona's
gonna have more basketball games that are gonna

507
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:51.359
be hard and meaningful. And and
you know when when the Kansas and Kansas

508
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.759
State and Iowa State and Baylor and
Texas Tech come to town, you know

509
00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:00.160
they're not the the glamour schools of
the PAC twelve, of the UCLA,

510
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:06.640
the not usc the cities aren't Los
Angeles and San Francisco and Seattle. But

511
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.639
you know their fans are gonna come
here. They're gonna come to these games,

512
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.599
both football and basketball. It's gonna
be a whole different deal. No,

513
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.840
it's like I said, you're lucky
to have season tickets. Uh,

514
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.280
in whatever capacity, I encourage people
to buy them now because it's gonna be

515
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:28.239
enjoyment. You might go home a
loser a time or two, but their

516
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.880
games are gonna be fun. Yeah. I think I don't know if anyone's

517
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:32.159
asked you guys this question, but
how long do you think it will take

518
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.280
either of you to get just used
to being in a different conferences, being

519
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:42.880
like like you've been in the I
of think it's gonna take any getting used

520
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.159
to. I think it's just like
it is what it is. People know

521
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.000
these schools, right, you know, they know who the schools are.

522
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.679
It's not like It's not like you
got moved to a high school conference where

523
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.920
you don't know these high schools.
Everybody knows who these schools are. It's

524
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.880
just it's gonna be different. I
think it's gonna be very cool. Do

525
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:00.000
you drive a car here? Nah? Do you have? You had a

526
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.239
herd car on you from New York? Car? You have a few cars.

527
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.519
You have a car, right,
I have a car. I was

528
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.199
driving the second car just different than
same. Yeah, it just you know,

529
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:13.960
you turn it. You started differently. You know, the key is

530
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:15.760
saying is in a different place.
You know you have to find the air

531
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:21.440
condition. It's kind of like a
subway, Henry, Yeah, New York.

532
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.039
Let's take a break. Car,
Let's take our last break. We're

533
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going to be back. We'll wrap
this up five to zero, four,

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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,
He's Jay half Henry with us for the

581
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next fifteen more minutes. Because when
the calls, please do I'd like to

582
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hear from you. I like Henry's
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583
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know you can get you got ten
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584
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shut the hell up and get ready
to talk. Or man, I think

585
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it was my first time in the
so I'm here, what about to make

586
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sure it doesn't happen. I remember
that it's New Yorker. Man. It

587
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tells us like it is good what
he does. Yeah, yeah, okay,

588
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good. He gives call five two
four one forty. Uh uh.

589
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He was going to ask you.
And I don't even know if we want

590
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:30.760
to go here anymore because it continues
to be just just an nauseating with with

591
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.400
Kate and Kaylyn Clark. Well he
signed to Reice got tossed from a game

592
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.719
last night. Yeah, and now
they're saying she shouldn't got David. They

593
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:43.960
rescinded the second technical. But here's
here's the thing, and this is and

594
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:46.000
I have to be careful what we
say right right right now, and I'm

595
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:52.119
gonna be. But you know this
thing where you know, this player just

596
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.679
went up there and just shouldered her
and knocked her down because she just you

597
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:59.480
know, and then said, what
does she bring to the table besides a

598
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.000
three point shot? I'm like,
well she said that, yeah, but

599
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:06.239
I didn't understand she said. She
tweeted out because you know, after the

600
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.639
fight, they asked her a question
about Ka refused to answer, but then

601
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:14.079
then she responded to a tweet and
said, what does she bring to the

602
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.719
table besides a three point shot?
And I want to say, here's what

603
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.360
she brings more money for you,
eighteen thousand people at those games instead of

604
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:28.000
five. What are you doing?
Look, I'm you don't have to like

605
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.039
her, you don't you even have
to respect her, but to try and

606
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.880
to do what you're doing to try
and bring her down when she's doing so

607
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:43.400
much for your game, whether it's
a whether it's a it's a racial thing

608
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:51.000
or not. She's bringing attention and
notoriety to your game that you're going to

609
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.320
benefit from in the in the way
that Tiger Woods did it for golf.

610
00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:00.280
And the thing about the difference is
you hear the golfer say I'm happy for

611
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.119
a Tiger with you, because you
know why, I'm making more monsure she

612
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.480
brought to the profile profile. I
mean, remember they're getting chartered, the

613
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:15.239
women w they're chartering to their games
now because of Caitlin Clark. And so

614
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.880
why do you feel it necessary to
to to to knock her down or not.

615
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.719
Now, if you want to be
on the court, garter garter tough,

616
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:30.000
make it hard for her great,
But to do what she did just

617
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.400
because I'm just gonna knock your ass
down because I feel like I need to

618
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.800
knock your ass down. Well,
that's just stupid, So I it is.

619
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:38.599
But you know what it is,
Jay, it's could being competitive.

620
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:43.519
Uh, that's not being competitive.
If that's being let me tell you it's

621
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:47.920
being a competitive in a in a
competitive underbelly type of way. I saw

622
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.199
these guys because I played against these
guys who want to put you in their

623
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.960
place, put you in your place
because they're not confident in who they are.

624
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:59.559
I'm just kind of I'm not a
psychologists here, but I'm gonna play

625
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:05.199
one where they try to make you
feel unwinded or needed or whatever. And

626
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:07.960
that's the way they do it.
Eventually, in a year from now,

627
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.960
you know what they're gonna all say, maybe we should not have done this.

628
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:14.840
I don't did you read a quote
from Billy Bill jing King about all

629
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.199
this when Chris I read when Nancy
Lieberman said, what did she say?

630
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.280
She said, if I would have
been if I would have been Caitlin Clark's

631
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.639
teammate. I would have punched her
in the field. That's part of and

632
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.400
that's part of the problem. They
didn't come to her rescue. I don't

633
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.320
know if they know even how to
not how to do this. But it

634
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.960
was a weird time. The whole
dynamic of it was weird because she was

635
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.039
away from the game. But Billy
jan King said this was a lot like

636
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.559
when Chris Evertt came in nineteen seventy
four. This young young woman who was

637
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.519
in her teens came on the scene
and some of the older players, the

638
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:52.039
veteran players kind of resented her coming
on. And she said she's going to

639
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.199
help us make this game, and
she did, and she did. I

640
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:00.159
think eventually, cooler heads will prevail. I'm surprised that the commissioner of the

641
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:06.280
league hasn't come in and stepped in
and say let's play basketball exactly, and

642
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.840
and and and that's what it is. It doesn't continue to be basketball.

643
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.559
Finds will be bigger. And I'm
not saying that all these players have to

644
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.880
embrace her from the standpoint of,
you know, put in on a p

645
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.760
but why you're intentionally going out there
to try to knock her on her but

646
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:30.719
outside of the course of a game, this formern athlete, did you play

647
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:36.280
ball at some point? This is
a public hazing of the rookie, and

648
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.079
they're resentful of her because of all
her successful And that's the word that I

649
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:45.079
hate, which one resentment. And
that's why Why do you resent her?

650
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:51.199
If you want to play hard and
and and and guard her hard and give

651
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.400
her a hard foul, you know, in the course of the game and

652
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:58.360
say welcome to the NBA, I
have zero problem with that. But the

653
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.880
resentment of her when she's doing so
much good for your sport, that's the

654
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:06.599
part that pisses me right right,
And it's I think it's gonna be less

655
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.079
or it's gonna diminish as we move
forward, because this has brought this much

656
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:14.360
attention to her, uh, to
the whole situation. Actually, But like

657
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.800
we had Rocky on yesterday and I've
said, why would you ever have thought

658
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:22.719
that all these people on forums like
this, the stephen A. Smith and

659
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.079
all that stuff would start being talking
to each other. Yeah, not just

660
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:30.719
talking arguing about it because everybody has
the solution or has the answer. I

661
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:36.320
don't think anybody does until it kind
of stops. It just it just bothers

662
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.039
me, you know. And then
come on, you did you played when

663
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:42.800
you were you played when you were
younger. I don't know to which level,

664
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.159
but you had people kind of say
you little punk. I threw it,

665
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.119
kids, I threw it. I
threw a kid as a twelve year

666
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.960
old. That's part of the being
the competitive rights. But it was in

667
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.880
the course of the game, right, well, that's what I didn't try

668
00:44:54.920 --> 00:45:00.199
to hit him. I just tried, like you know, it was ten

669
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.800
year old kid who thought he was
hot stuff and I was pitching against him.

670
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:06.360
That's what this is. And I
said, okay, here, here

671
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.920
we go. That's what to me, that's this. This what she did

672
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:14.760
was different. She's just standing there
waiting for the ball to command and she

673
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.800
goes over and shoves her to the
ground. I've seen that was That's different

674
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.880
from her going in for a layup
and giving her a hard fight. Two

675
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.079
different things. We've seen this in
baseball, We've seen this in men.

676
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:29.719
I'm telling you is now basketball all
types of cheap shots. I mean,

677
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.639
you've seen it now. We just
get to see it at the women's level

678
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.360
and we're not used to it.
The worst the worst, it's going to

679
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.400
happen again because their teammates didn't even
defend her. And that's that's another piece

680
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.639
of thing. I think that'll change. Hopefully that'll change. But we'll see

681
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:49.800
you've seen it in every man's sports. There is no Now we're just seeing

682
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.559
it in this type of thing and
we're saying what, But again, that

683
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.960
would be like you know, uh, you know, back when Tiger was

684
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.840
first started, you're saying, I'm
rooting against him because you know, I

685
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.400
want him to break his leg,
you know, because he's so good when

686
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:10.480
you don't realize what the big picture
is, what he's doing exactly. He's

687
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.679
your meal tik. Yeah, yeah, he's your meal tic I think.

688
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.480
But eventually, guess what happened.
They realized, they realized, and they

689
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:23.559
appreciated, and they actually root for
the guy now that he sucks. Actually,

690
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.519
I think eventually that'll happen. She's
a fantastic player, but there's a

691
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:32.000
lot of fantastic players I see.
The resentment is my word, but I'm

692
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:37.000
not sure that's the right word.
But eventually it'll it'll be fine and they'll

693
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.199
move on and I but again go
back to that word. I just hate

694
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.920
the resentment. See, but you
made a perfect example. You you did

695
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.599
it too in a different type of
way, in a different type of way.

696
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:52.159
But again again to me, throwing
a ball highd inside to a ten

697
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:59.079
year old kid was within the game. Whereas what this player did when she

698
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:00.960
just went up and knocked her on
her ass, when she was just standing

699
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:05.960
there as opposed to a heart,
like I said, a hard foul on

700
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.920
a lamp or something like that,
There's there's a line there that got crossed.

701
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.400
Sure, of course, That's what
I'm saying, is that if she

702
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.440
had waited to make that statement when
Kaylen Clark goes down the line and you

703
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:20.719
know, gives her to the forearm
shiver and she's going up for a layup,

704
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:23.239
I had no problem with that,
No problem with that. What I

705
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:29.159
had a problem with is that she
she blindsides her cheap shots, her knocks

706
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.840
her on her ass just for the
hell of it, well, to prove

707
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:35.920
a point, to make sure who's
who's who. But there's a way to

708
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.400
do that in a way. Not
of course, I've seen I've seen this.

709
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:42.440
Being a former athlete, I've seen
this at my level. It's the

710
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.800
hazing of a freshman, which doesn't
make it right, doesn't make it right.

711
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.840
But that's what these people do,
these athletes at fifth level, because

712
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.280
they're really ultra competitive and they want
to make their mark of don't f with

713
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:58.960
me, because this is my until
you become better, you know. And

714
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:02.039
she she's been she hasn't been good
in all reality, she hasn't been the

715
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:06.559
person we thought that she would be. But guess what she's gonna be at

716
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.679
some point. Yeah, no,
yeah, I I yeah, just bothered

717
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:14.000
mete. No, I get bothered
me. You're not alone. Bothered me

718
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.119
a lot because it just it just
it just runs. You know. Again,

719
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.320
somebody's somebody's trying to do you some
good and you're saying, well,

720
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:22.800
I don't like you, so I'm
going to knock you on your ass.

721
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.599
So think about it. It's it's
so polarizing, yes and so on so

722
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.760
many levels, and you can go
one way, you can go in different

723
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:35.079
topics of that same subject and and
there's no real solution until it stops.

724
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.599
I'm just so, I'm just hoping
that the commissioner not hoping, and that's

725
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:43.599
their job that comes in steps and
enough of this they don't and if they're

726
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:47.039
bitching about their money. But the
money they make, they should get fined

727
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.400
a lot of that money, and
then it'll probably stop. No I and

728
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.800
I mean complaining, you know not
because if you hit them where accounts because

729
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:00.599
they're saying they're not making enough money, it's just it makes no sense.

730
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.679
It's just like it just it just
reeks of somebody who just has no idea

731
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.079
of the big picture. You know, and when you're and when you're in

732
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.400
the w n B A, you
should be a little smarter than that.

733
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:15.039
That's all I'm saying. And that
just that just drives me crazy. That

734
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.239
that that that's that's the way we're
gonna do this. So anyways, okay,

735
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:23.400
my thought, all right, okay, no, no, no,

736
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.079
no, your I think your answer
is fine. It's not right or wrong.

737
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.000
It's just your answer. That's my
opinion, and I don't disagree with

738
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:35.480
it. There's no right or wrong
answer. I think eventually it's gonna subside,

739
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.079
it will ultimately. Yeah, it's
kind again, and there's gonna be

740
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.519
a lot of Welcome to the w
n b A moments for Kaylin Clark.

741
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.320
And again, like I said,
I don't have any problem with most of

742
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.880
those. This one was over the
line. That's all, you know,

743
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.000
that's all I'm saying. This one
was over the line. Let's take this

744
00:49:53.519 --> 00:50:00.559
Hi on the arn on the ball. What's up? What's up? Jim?

745
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:08.199
I remember, I think this is
a little bit more intense with women

746
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:13.519
in general. My wife gave me
a hard foul every day I was married,

747
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.519
and you and it was mostly for
a breathing Well, you know,

748
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:29.280
we all cross our bridges. And
how long did you how many seasons did

749
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:35.920
you endure? Eleven twelve? He
doesn't remember. He had to retire.

750
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.800
That's funny. Okay, So I
have a couple of program notes that my

751
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:47.920
might. This Andy Ramirez that does
the weather now is fantastic. She makes

752
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.760
it a joy to listen to the
weather and the traffic. What station,

753
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:59.559
all of these all of these iHeart
stations, Oh okay, okay, but

754
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:06.039
unique to your station they do one
thing that is that damn beeping noise on

755
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:14.440
the traffic watch that makes me reach
for the for the channel button. About

756
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.159
like diving back to first place on
a pickoff. Well, you're you're talking

757
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.920
to a couple of guys who are
so far, so low on the totem

758
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.079
pole where we're just not going to
be able to help you with that one.

759
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:30.440
Somebody tell them that's ridiculous. Okay, all right, you guys have

760
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:35.760
a right you too. That's what
Jim called us about. It's too funny.

761
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.119
I know, we're talking about this
in depth situation that talking about being

762
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:44.800
abused. What's funny, heart foul? That's kind of funny. Heart falls

763
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:49.440
for twelve years, right, right, So this debate will continue for all.

764
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:51.880
Well, but the thing about it, it's a it's a talking point

765
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.480
and everybody in the country is talking
about and as you said, you know,

766
00:51:55.559 --> 00:52:00.519
at some point it is going to
side. Yeah, it will.

767
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:06.800
But I'm watching. I watched the
game of the game in point. I

768
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:08.719
sat there and watched me geting to
the end because I hadn't seen it yet,

769
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:14.599
and it was it was interesting.
Yeah, are you watching, Henry,

770
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.800
I follow it. I'm following.
I'm not watching any of the games.

771
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.639
I still don't, you know,
Yeah, I mean, you know,

772
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:25.559
it is fascinating me to see that
everywhere she goes there's fifteen twenty thousand

773
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:30.880
people. I might have time those
two teams play though, because that's going

774
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.519
to be a really good game.
Sure, sure, with Reese being on

775
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:37.440
the opposite end to no, it'll
be it'll be interesting, no question.

776
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:39.360
Okay, Hey, welcome back,
all right, glad to be back,

777
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:43.000
and then we'll be back tomorrow.
We'll be back tomorrow. I think we're

778
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.280
trying to track down a couple of
pretty good guests here. I got a

779
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.920
call from somebody else or a text
earlier, so we might be able to

780
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.880
do that tomorrow. Another day,
another day, and Steve, let's get

781
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:54.599
ready to go to the Big twelve. Man, Big twelve. Don't forget

782
00:52:54.679 --> 00:53:00.400
that the Belmont is Saturday? Is
that this Saturday? Yeah? Oh wow,

783
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:02.119
okay, deal will come back and
give us some try. I'm not

784
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:06.119
planning on golfing this Saturday, so
I'll actually be able to watch it.

785
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.559
Okay, okay, So thanks everybody, thanks right, thanks for being here,

786
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.679
Henry, nice job on the board. Thanks for keeping us on the

787
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.320
air. All right, we'll talk
to you guys tomorrow