WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:12.279 He'll be go'll be bab It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this 2 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:15.560 for April eighth, twenty twenty four. For the next hour or so, 3 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:19.079 let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live 4 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:23.839 with me Jeff Grub Today, a total solar eclipse only happens every once in 5 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:27.559 a while, but Game Mess Mornings is once in a lifetime every single day 6 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:31.519 Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. But first, please join me and 7 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:34.600 welcome to today's co host, the Game Mess Mornings. It's Emma Fife. 8 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:38.759 Everybody, Emma, how are you doing. I'm so glad to be part 9 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:43.600 of this historic event because nobody has ever talked about video games on a Monday 10 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:49.600 morning exactly. They remember this. We will do it again in every forty 11 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:54.840 years or so. Special. Yeah, I'm excited about the eclipse. We 12 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:58.200 were just talking about it. I live dead centered and the path of Totalities 13 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:03.079 have told people the weather reports have been kind of grim for the last little 14 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:06.280 bit, but they've been grim everywhere. Apparently Texas is having a big storm. 15 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:10.799 I looked out and it's like the kind of partly cloudy where I see 16 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:14.280 the sun very often, so at the very least, I think we're going 17 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:15.840 to get the effect of, like, you know, what it looks like 18 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:19.280 around the world when when we're you know, in your environment, when the 19 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.799 sun is blocked out by the moon. Ye boy, I hope I'm able 20 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:26.680 to like just observe it like it's you know, rolling the dice. The 21 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:33.760 sun is pretty powerful, and with your eclipse glasses, they are the only 22 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:37.640 thing you can see is the Sun. So while your view of the Sun 23 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.200 might be a little bit diminished by the clouds, I'm sure that you'll still 24 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.439 be able to see it as longest it's these hazy kind of clouds right now, 25 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:47.400 Yeah, exactly, I had those like complete overcast the last couple of 26 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.920 days. Uh well, not every single day, but a couple of the 27 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.000 last couple of days it's been like that, And I'm like, man, 28 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.000 I don't think we'd see shit if it was like this, But as it 29 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:59.560 is right now, I am hopeful. But it's, you know, one 30 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.319 of those things you can't control. Well, I suppose you could try to 31 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:07.239 drive somewhere else, right, but sure that's just as much just as risky 32 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.400 because it's like it could be bad there and then you could have stayed home 33 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.560 and found out that whether it was fine at home or something like that. 34 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.520 So we did this side over the weekend. We are just going to PLoP 35 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:19.199 down here and roll the dice. This is what we really need storm from 36 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:23.000 the X Men for just to control the weather so that people in the path 37 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:28.319 of totality can see the total eclipse. In Los Angeles, we're going to 38 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:30.800 get a partial eclipse. But of course it is so clear, and it 39 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:38.000 was raining recently, so the skis are extra clear. Right. Last did 40 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.039 think a lot about the Olympics that happened in China, where there was like 41 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:44.919 reports of them like shooting cannons up at clouds to like disperse them. I'm 42 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:46.879 like, let's just do that. Let's just do that. Perfect. It 43 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:49.960 seemed to work. I think. I don't know. I didn't pay attention 44 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.120 to the results, but I like the idea of shooting clouds like that alone. 45 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:58.039 That's got me, So let's go for it, all right. I 46 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:02.439 do have something important to ask you, Emma. Okay, there is a 47 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:07.080 scene actually, okay, unless you actually get this up, give me a 48 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.400 second while I so you can read so you could hear the scene. I'm 49 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:15.639 gonna burn up on Twitter here dot com slash show. Are you familiar with 50 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:22.639 the American film Jurassic Park. I am very familiar with the American classic directed 51 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.560 by STEVENS. Phielberg. All right, awesome, let me make sure I 52 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.000 can. You're gonna hear this. I think you should hear this, but 53 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:34.199 let me just double show. Do you hear that? Yep? Okay, 54 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.879 great. Let me just make sure the chat here's that? All right? 55 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:44.080 So this is a scene where they're where they're talking. There you go, 56 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:49.000 that's the setup. Listen to this conversation. Okay, the power of this 57 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:52.840 place. But I made a mistake too. I didn't have enough respect for 58 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:57.680 that power and it's out now. When she says I did not have enough 59 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:01.960 respect for that power and it's out now, is she talking about the metaphorical 60 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:09.560 power of dinosaurs and humanity's grasp over nature and now it has been unleashed, 61 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:15.199 or is she talking about the electricity at the park called Jurassic Park. You 62 00:04:15.279 --> 00:04:18.839 know, it's very funny because I was thinking about the exact context of that 63 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:24.480 scene being that uh huh, it is the right. The electricity has literally 64 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.279 gone out and has been out from like a very long time at this point. 65 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:33.160 But yes, yes, I think, I honestly think she think about 66 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:41.279 the electricity. Yes, okay, well, but so why does she talk 67 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:44.680 Why does she start talking about like I did not respect that power of this 68 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.240 place. I made a mistake too, I didn't know it's okay, so 69 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:55.439 now she didn't. Okay, she took for granted that that power was going 70 00:04:55.600 --> 00:05:00.560 to be enough to contain the dinosaurs. Okay, So wait, okay, 71 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:06.319 metaphorically, she's absolutely including everything that humanity does. She is to harness nature. 72 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:12.879 Yes, but what she says, the power it's out now? That 73 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.120 referring to the power out outage, the literal powder power oue, that's the 74 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.839 dinosaurs being out. Yes, yeah, the power outage. I'm still on 75 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:28.199 board with her. Yeah, hell so you agree with ben Hansen, who 76 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.800 does go on to make that argument. I Emma, I just can't see 77 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:35.519 it. I understand how people arrive at this, I guess, but for 78 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.399 me, it's like, no, they're clearly talking about the metaphorical power of 79 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:43.120 the dinosaurs, and sure all this other stuff is included in that. But 80 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:46.879 the power is out now does not refer to the power outage. In my 81 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.680 opinion, it does refer to the power outage of my opinion. And again, 82 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:56.319 this is this is it is that basically the whole thing is a metaphor. 83 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:59.839 But it's like when but literally that's what it is. Is the power 84 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:08.360 outage is the metaphorical representation of dinosaurs. And again, and it does encompass 85 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:11.680 something even bigger, as you say, which is like she took for granted 86 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:19.040 how powerful human electricity is, which is human which is harnessed by human beings. 87 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:24.319 Obviously it is something that exists, but we as humans have to generate 88 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:25.839 it. And it's like no, no, no, no, no. 89 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:30.160 The power of the dinosaurs is greater than the power of humanity, which is 90 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:36.879 why we never coexisted. And now this feeble power of man that she believed 91 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:41.480 could contain the dinosaurs and make this safe because she wanted to be able to 92 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:46.480 interact with dinosaurs, because her lifelong dream she's a palaeontologist. But the power 93 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.800 of man hath failed. I will for the people that are hearing this and 94 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:55.959 are so angry that later today they're going to blot out the sun. I 95 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:00.560 am. I'll just read what Austin Walker said here. I feel like the 96 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.879 you know, the best summation of my position. He says out like free 97 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:09.160 out, like out of its cage. The power parentheses, the sublime might 98 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:13.240 of dinosaurs, and the incredible hubuistic science which which brought them out of time 99 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.720 is no longer contained. In fact, that containment was always an illusion, 100 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:19.920 which is how that line actually starts. So if you go back further, 101 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:24.839 she's like, it was an illusion all that stuff. Yeah, that's this 102 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:30.800 is my position. Really though I blame Ben Hanson. I blame as always 103 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:32.920 I blame Ben Hanson for bringing this all up. He is going to tear 104 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.399 gaming media apart, and this is what we deserve. Uh so, Yeah, 105 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:39.319 but like I said, I'll blow it out the sum later today and 106 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.079 out of anger. Thank you so much, Jeba. I appreciate that. 107 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:44.720 That was a lot of fun. No problem. All right, let's explain 108 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:46.199 what we do here most weekdays. I, Jeff Greb, will help piece 109 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:49.959 your gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even some of 110 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:55.319 your own original your own, my own original reporting for all these topics up 111 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:58.120 get the input of a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. 112 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.279 If you were watching live on Twitch, well welcome. You can always listen 113 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.639 to the show later on podcast feeds by searching for Game Mess Mornings or find 114 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.720 therss on giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the show later with 115 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:13.720 chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube. All right, we have a 116 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.680 lot to get into, so let's start the Morning Mess with Xbox forms new 117 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:22.319 Game Preservation and Platforms teams and moves AI division under Hardware. This is from 118 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.600 James Bachelor at Games Industry dot Biz. Microsoft has seen more changes behind the 119 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.800 scene, including the creation of two new teams dedicated to Experiences and platform as 120 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:35.919 well as game preservation. Windows Central reported that Xbox Emerging Technologies, a relatively 121 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:41.080 new team believed to be primarily focused on AI, has now been moved into 122 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:45.279 the Xbox Hardware division, which is led by Rowana Sonas, in order to 123 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.519 accelerate innovation in that space. The Emerging Tech team has previously led was previously 124 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:52.919 led by corporate Vice President Kareem Choudry, whose exit the company will talk about 125 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:56.159 that in a second. There are two new teams within Xbox, one being 126 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:03.639 an organization known as Xbox Experiences and Platforms, which is said to be focused 127 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.360 on improving the overall user experience on both Xbox consoles and Windows. This is 128 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:13.399 led by Ashley McKissick and Kevin Gamble. Meanwhile, an internal email from Xbox 129 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.559 president Sarah Bond, also reported by Windows Central, revealed the platform holder has 130 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.840 created a new team that is focused on ensuring titles are playable on future Xbox 131 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:26.159 devices. We have formed a new team dedicated to game preservation, important to 132 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.320 all of us at Xbox and the industry itself, Bond wrote. We are 133 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:33.240 building on our strong history of delivering backwards compatibility to our players, and we 134 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.440 remain committed to bringing forward the amazing library of Xbox games for future generations of 135 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:43.919 players to enjoy. That's where I kind of want to focus for this story, 136 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.159 Emma, is on the backward compatibility. This is something that they had 137 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:52.480 a big focus on for years and years, where it looked like they had 138 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:54.919 these games that ran on Xbox and Xbox three sixty, and hey, we 139 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.600 want to make sure that stuff's playable on Xbox One and then eventually Xbox Series 140 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:05.720 XNN. They sort of tampered down that effort as they got to a point 141 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:09.519 where they're like, hey, pretty much every game that we could of feasibly 142 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.480 or legally adapt for the new console, we've already done that, and there's 143 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.279 not much point in keeping them around. Now this team's coming back, and 144 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.639 at this point it feels like likely it's not about continuing that work. It 145 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.240 is about making sure games that now are out today and including the ones they've 146 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:28.720 made backward compatibility from Xbox and Xbox three sixty but then Xbox one and now 147 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.080 Xbox Series X and S games making sure they work on devices going forward. 148 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.720 And I'm I think that's notable because the assumption I think a lot of people 149 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:43.639 would make is that the future Xboxes will be very similar in architecture to the 150 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.799 current Xboxes. Basically PCs with a shroud on it that make it look makes 151 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.480 it look like a console, so a lot it's a PC you plug into 152 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.720 your TV exactly. So why would you need a backward compatibility team to make 153 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.600 sure those games keep working, unless maybe they are going to change change the 154 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.840 architecture, something that that has been rumored, something that they were like looking 155 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.159 at in the FTC filings that got r right, So hey, we might 156 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:09.159 switch over to ARM based processes or something like that, And in that case 157 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.000 they would need a backward compatibility team because they do want to make sure all 158 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:13.440 these games are working, you think, I'm like, on the right you 159 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.960 might sniffer down the right lane here or what. Yeah, I think so, 160 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.320 because, as you say, I mean, as soon as you're dealing 161 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:24.240 with a PC those files, you get a new PC and you can just 162 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.080 play them on your new PC. It's not there's no issue of backwards compatibility, 163 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.279 and certainly that is the way that Xbox has operated hitherto effectively. But 164 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.600 yeah, it's it is interesting that they have a backwards compatibility team. I 165 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.919 mean what struck me about it was was again this idea of game preservation, 166 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:46.159 which is something that I think has only very recently actually come into focus as 167 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.039 we've become really aware of the fact that like video game history has not actually 168 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.000 been very well preserved. I mean, you look at any old gaming magazine 169 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.360 and there are just so many titles that you have never ever heard of. 170 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.080 You probably did hear about them, but they win in one ear it out 171 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.840 the other, and they just don't exist in your brain or anywhere to play 172 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.320 anymore. And so I do think that you know, they're with the advent 173 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:13.039 of backwards compatibility is when we started to actually see that game preservation come into 174 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.919 play, and certainly companies have gone back and been like, we should do 175 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.399 a re release of this game because actually it was good. But yeah, 176 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.639 I mean, but again, as you say, with Xbox, this hasn't 177 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:31.039 really been any kind of concern, And there is again, of course, 178 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:37.279 the issue of who actually owns the rights to this game, and you know 179 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.840 we do we have the ability to even go about preserving this and putting this 180 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:46.840 in the in a situation where it is a backwards compatible game. But again 181 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.200 that's that that to me, is where you want to focus on. Okay, 182 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:54.120 well, if this game ever existed on our platform, then it should 183 00:12:54.120 --> 00:13:01.679 be playable on any version of this platform going forward. I remember like the 184 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.519 first time backwards compatibility I ever experienced it, it was like the PlayStation two 185 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.840 I could play my PlayStation one games on. It was like, whoa, 186 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:13.360 this is absolutely wild because that hadn't really been done with consoles before, not 187 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.919 really, not in any significant way. So yeah, it's just but yeah, 188 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:20.320 I mean, but as you say, it's like, not hasn't been 189 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.200 an issue for Xbox. So what is going on in terms of the next 190 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:30.080 generation of Xbox that this is something that needs to be focused on. Yeah, 191 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.399 it's the kind of thing where you know, you have a team working 192 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.200 on backward compatibility at Xbox up until this point, because you know, you 193 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.639 have to have a team that can build the technologies right, but it also 194 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.559 takes a team to handle what you were suggesting, the byzantine laws of making 195 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.519 sure that all the copyright is accounted for, making sure that you have permission 196 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.000 to put it on something that technically would be a new platform, and so 197 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.679 you have to get a new licensing agreement all this stuff, you know, 198 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.039 just get the green light from these companies. That means tracking down people that 199 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.799 maybe you know, for games from develop ploppers that are that are defunct or 200 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.559 whatever, tracking down those current rights holder. That is a it's a labor 201 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:11.039 intensive process. And they have said, you know, not recently as they 202 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.360 were winding down the backward compatibility team. Originally they said, hey, we 203 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:18.240 have basically done every single game that we could possibly do the team. Every 204 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:24.159 game that's left is it's just too complicated or literally impossible based on like not 205 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.960 knowing who is the rights holder or any number of other things, or the 206 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.879 game contains the likeness of someone who is you know, would never give us 207 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:37.039 permission. There's a limited right exactly so it's just too much work. So 208 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:41.519 again, like, I think they are in a position now where they're probably 209 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:43.879 looking at the current library and like, hey, there is an understanding now 210 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:48.519 that these games should carry forward. If we get started on that work now 211 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:52.480 with the goal of maybe moving to new architecture, that would cause every single 212 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.720 game to break unless we were to have a compatibility layer or some little emulator 213 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.759 that would run on that device to be like to behave like an Xbox Series 214 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.759 X or an Xbox so a one. In that case, you know, 215 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.480 maybe we can get these developers in these publishers to understand that these games should 216 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.039 just keep going for it now, to make that process way easier in the 217 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.000 future and kind of actually make it seamless so they never stop working. It's 218 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:18.279 like no, yeah, of course, they're just like moving on to the 219 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.279 next thing. I think they're in a position now where they can convince developers 220 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.559 and publishers that that's the right course of action, And at the same time, 221 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:30.639 they probably are eyeing every option for what their new hardware can look like, 222 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.320 maybe not necessarily the very next generation, but down the line. They 223 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.639 keep talking about these handheld PCs at a certain point, at a certain point, 224 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.240 ARM or X eighty six is going to win that battle, and ARM 225 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:45.039 is the very efficient thing that is in like the new Macs and stuff that 226 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.559 you know. I actually just got a MacBook Air, my first Mac, 227 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.879 and it's like, man, the battery life on this thing is incredible and 228 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.600 I'm not never saying any performance issues with this M one ship, and I'm 229 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:56.559 that's the first generation of stuff that they put out. So it's like that, 230 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.559 you know, that's what ARM can do. And then X eighty six 231 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.720 is like the rizons are getting very very efficient for an X eighty six chip, 232 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:07.600 and they're still relatively powerful, but then you look at you compare them 233 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.200 side by side, it's like that's a long way away from what ARM can 234 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:14.399 do in terms of efficiency, and the ARMS power is actually kind of catching 235 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.320 up to X eighty six in a lot of ways. I think Microsoft's in 236 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:22.159 a position where they're like looking at both and they're like trying to make sure 237 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.559 that they can choose whichever route when the time comes. And I think in 238 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.440 the end, the way things are trending right now, it looks like ARM 239 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:32.720 is probably going to win that battle, so they and they continue to struggle 240 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:37.039 to get like Windows running on arm in a really strong way. So it's 241 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:40.200 like with gaming, maybe they can like just like rip that band aid off 242 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:41.879 and go for it. The only way, the only way they'd be able 243 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.600 to do that, right is if they have the backward capality ready to go, 244 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.840 because people want their digital library to continue, right Oh yeah, to 245 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.399 carry over obviously, And and it is it's really interesting, you know, 246 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:57.480 having this discussion, it sounds like right now, most likely what this backwards 247 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:02.440 compatibility team is is primarily a legal team, you know, like at this 248 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:07.720 point, it's it's legal proceedings with publishers being like, hey, we basically 249 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:17.680 want you to sign over unlimited rights to this so that if we were to 250 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:22.799 switch over our operating system, basically we can effectively do that to these titles 251 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:27.000 so people's digital libraries will carry over. I mean it is a smart move 252 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:33.200 on Xbox's part because that puts them in a position wherein they are able to 253 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.640 adapt as you know this as this goes forward. And then the other story 254 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.319 out of this is a Kareem Chowdry, who is a long time executive at 255 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:48.759 Xbox who had recently kind of started up this AI division. He's left and 256 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.799 the AI division is moving under the hardware team. I want to ask, 257 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.079 what do you think the future is of AI and a console maker like Xbox, 258 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.799 specifically Microsoft. Microsoft seems like the a company that is not gonna not 259 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:06.400 investigate AI. Of course they're not going to not investigate AI. I mean, 260 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:08.559 what does that look like to you? Look, this is the thing 261 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:14.839 about AI is is I've seen a lot of people having this discussion that AI 262 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:19.720 is being used for the wrong things, like I want AI to do my 263 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:26.279 laundry and clean my house, and I want to be left alone to do 264 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:32.000 the creative stuff. However, in game development, there is there's a lot 265 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:33.799 of laundry to be done. Yes, there's a lot of laundry to be 266 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:38.599 done. Yeah, it's it's to me that's an effective use of AI. 267 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:45.359 It can be, you know, I think when it comes to video games, 268 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:49.160 my position can continues to be until not proven otherwise, but like it's 269 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:52.599 a little bit more evidence to suggest it could be completely bad. My position 270 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:57.799 continues to be that video games are such a competitive place that using something that 271 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:03.000 is a shortcut likely will just lead to people being like, Okay, this 272 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:04.759 freezes up to do all those other things we never had time to do before. 273 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.000 So now that this is stuff we can focus the human efforts on, 274 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.720 separate our game from the competition, I'm hopeful that that is how it plays 275 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:17.359 out. But I'm appreciative of all of the arguments that of how it could 276 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:19.680 cost people to lose jobs, because we've seen that that is something that companies 277 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:23.880 are ready and rare and to do in so many scenarios. So of course 278 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:30.519 that could be the final situation here. But they're going to use AI in 279 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.839 these games. They are going to do it. They are likely already doing 280 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:40.000 it in many ways. It's just you, I don't know. At this 281 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:51.079 point. I feel like humans still like it still requires a human to do 282 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:55.759 the inputs to operate the AI, and so one would hope again that effectively 283 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:03.960 you would be using these AIS as assistant to human workers. So again, 284 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:06.880 as you say, they can focus the human effort on the stuff that really 285 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:11.519 really matters, and you just hope that the AI isn't going to eliminate some 286 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.319 of those back end positions that would be doing those sort of laundry jobs, 287 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:17.960 so to speak. And it might be Yeah, I mean I thought the 288 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:22.200 same one as that ever happened. I mean that prepare that is the story 289 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.160 of technology throughout the history of mankind. Oh yeah, we've we've had technology 290 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:32.759 improved efficiencies that would take away jobs and then there are more jobs were always 291 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:37.039 created afterward. There's usually I mean, that's the uh, the Luddites, 292 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.200 That's the whole thing is the Luddites were destroying not the prienty forescival like the 293 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.200 things that the cotton stuff, the cotton gin or whatever, like We're going 294 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:47.640 to destroy this thing, and it's like, well, it actually ended up 295 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:49.240 creating more jobs in the end. That that has happened over it, that 296 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.640 does not mean it will always happen forever. I think is the kind of 297 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.839 disruptive, disruptive technology that if it goes as far as people imagine it will 298 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.480 go, which you know, our imagination sometimes get away with us when imagine 299 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.440 what something like this can do. It's not as effective as some people think 300 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.799 it is, but if it is, maybe it could be totally disruptive like 301 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:12.039 that. But gay mean, we've seen technologies that create things that make things 302 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.720 more efficient. The example I use is like Epic Games has a button now 303 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:18.960 in unreal that like you press that and like it can kind of just make 304 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.640 a city for you, an open world city like they show that off in 305 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:25.319 on Real Engine five a few like a couple of years ago. Now, 306 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:30.559 and that is something that required tons of artists a lot of time to create 307 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:32.880 in the past. And now like there's a button that does that. So 308 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:34.880 like all those people are gonna lose their job, right at, no way 309 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:40.480 in hell those people would start making stuff inside of buildings, so they can 310 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:44.279 now make those world feel even more alive in a lot of other ways because 311 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.839 you can't know. So now every game has an open old city that now 312 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:51.359 you have to stand out in that environment. So right, Yeah, it's 313 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:53.319 exactly as you say, if you can just push a button, then if 314 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:59.200 you're just using the AI generated city, you're not going to stand out in 315 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:02.519 a very very comp a field. So as you say, it's like basically 316 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:10.559 the AI and this to me again possible. You know, good use of 317 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:15.759 AI is it's it's providing a template, it's providing a canvas and then you 318 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.880 go in and you can change stuff rather than starting from zero. Yeah, 319 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:22.559 I mean, and I don't again, we'll see it could it could be 320 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:26.039 bad, It could be I honestly don't know. I don't know, but 321 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:30.240 I do know that we will find out because they're gonna use it. They 322 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:34.279 are gonna use AI so and that's what this was leading to. I don't 323 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:40.039 think cream Chowder leaving Microsoft suggests that they're not going full steam had they move 324 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:42.200 that team under hardware. They're just gonna build it straight into everything, and 325 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:47.079 it's going to be in every game in some way. All right. Moving 326 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:51.680 along here, Yoship says it's time for another Final Fantasy Tactics game from this 327 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:55.240 is from a mind Nintendo News. Final Fantasy Tactics fans will be pleased to 328 00:22:55.279 --> 00:23:00.119 hear that Final Fantasy director Neoki Yoshita is up for creating a new game in 329 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.240 the classics series if the opportunity presents itself. The news was shared in an 330 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.640 interview with The Gamer, in which Yoship said that he's a huge fan of 331 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:11.160 the series and thinks the time is right for the franchise to be revisited. 332 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:15.720 Whether or not it actually does depends on the team's busy schedule, but it's 333 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:19.039 good to hear that it's one one title on their wish list. We have 334 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:23.079 a lot of our staff who worked on previous games like Final Fantasy Tactics or 335 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.960 Final Fantasy twelve, so you're going to have a lot of that Tactics feel. 336 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:30.519 A lot of the same people are on the team. He adds that 337 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.960 he's very happy to hear another Tactics game suggested because the team are fans of 338 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.720 the game themselves. We love Tactics as well. It's probably about time we 339 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:42.200 do a new one. Final Fantasy Tactics first. I'm still one of the 340 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:48.160 few games on the Nvidia League lists that has not been confirmed or come out. 341 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:56.319 Yes, almost certainly going to and goodness, yes, Final Fantasy Tactics, 342 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:04.319 y'all is so good. I am hard pressed to determine what my favorite 343 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:14.000 Final Fantasy game is because of Final Fantasy Tactics so so good. The story 344 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:19.680 Game of Thrones wishes okay, like Final Fantasy Tactics is it? And and 345 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:23.319 you know, Final Fantasy twelve is set in the same world of the Beliefs, 346 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:30.599 and uh yeah, And I mean, look, give me another Final 347 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.759 Fantasy Tactics. Just give me og Final Fantasy Tactics. The the remaster War 348 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:38.319 of the Lions which came out for PSP, which was outstanding, and I 349 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.240 believe it was on the PSP to as well. Uh just real quick. 350 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:47.160 It's almost certainly been longer since from that to now than it was from Final 351 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.559 Fantasy Tactics to War of the Lions, Like it's probably twice ye yeah, 352 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:53.799 yeah, oh yeah, twice as long, dude. And also it's like, 353 00:24:53.960 --> 00:25:00.319 obviously we've seen with the things that Yoship and you know now Kiyoshi team 354 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:07.359 has worked on that they do that like Classic Fantasy, Final Fantasy extremely well. 355 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.880 And you know you are like, again, it's super interesting to me 356 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:18.279 this whole oh you know, Final Fantasy sixteen. It's so dark and serious. 357 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.440 It is the most serious Final Fantasy there's ever been. And I'm like, 358 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:26.319 y'all clearly never played Final Fantasy Tactics. That was the OG. And 359 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:32.119 I would love to see Yeship's team take this on and have him be at 360 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.799 the head of this creatively. Like I'm all the way in. I can't 361 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.640 wait, just love it. So what do you think the plan is? 362 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.519 Do you think the plan is maybe remaster Final Fantasy Tactics one more time for 363 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:47.240 modern systems, yeah, and then go into a new offshoot at some point. 364 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.640 I think absolutely, I think that's definitely the move. You know, 365 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:55.960 the thing about Final Fantasy Tactics is that, like, it's still so playable, 366 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:00.519 because I will say that I feel like one genre that has not gone 367 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:07.440 through a huge upgrade. Yes, they have added like battle animations that look 368 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.759 fancy and stuff, but by and large, the turn based tiles, the 369 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:18.319 tiles tactical RPG, it hasn't really changed that much. But no, so 370 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:23.799 Final Fantasy Tactics still super playable, and I would be curious to see what 371 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:32.440 this team would do in terms of creating a modern turn based tactics tile games 372 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:34.720 real quick Turbo Shawn says that it was ten years from the original to War 373 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:38.000 of the Lions, and it's been seventeen years since War of the Lions, 374 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:42.680 so you were right almost twice. That's deeply upsetting. Yeah, and then 375 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.680 okay, so some people also are saying no judges, which that's from Final 376 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.759 Fantasy Tactics advanced, I believe, and I like the judges. I want 377 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:53.880 them to come back, all right, Maybe not the whole game or anything, 378 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.680 but like, yeah, like a couple of like maybe a stretcher. 379 00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.960 The judges show up. They're great. They for you to engage with some 380 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.920 of the other mechanics and stuff. I don't know. I like, how 381 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.359 did you feel about the Judges and Tactics Advance. Did you ever play that 382 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.680 one? I never played Tactics Advance. No. As I say, it's 383 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:15.319 like, I loved the original Final Fantasy Tactics and then I started playing Oh 384 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:22.839 not so so long after Valkyrie Profile came out with a Tactics game that I 385 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.640 really really enjoyed, called like coming into the Plume, I want to say, 386 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.680 And then I played a little like Diskaya and then you know, just 387 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:36.200 got into fire Emblem. That's how it goes. Yeah, so it goes. 388 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:37.799 I mean, listen, I think we probably we probably hear about a 389 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:42.000 Final Fantasy Tactics remaster or remake or something pretty soon, and then I hope 390 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.680 they do announce a new one. Final Fantasy nine is the other one that 391 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:51.319 they're also remaking, so probably not quite as ambitious to some of these other 392 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.279 games, but they have a lot of Final Fantasy stuff happening. As long 393 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.559 as they get to get back to Tactics, I'll be happy. I'm a 394 00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.880 big fan of Tactics, especially Tactics Advance, but I've enjoyed what I played 395 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.839 Tactics in the past as well. Yeah, all right, let's take a 396 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:07.039 quick break when we get back. The Sonic movie producers are just on one. 397 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:15.759 We'll talk about that. We'll be right back, all right, Let's 398 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.440 get back into it, and that means Sonic movies to be Avengers level events, 399 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:25.359 says franchise producer from Ali Reynolds at Nintendo Life. Twenty twenty four is 400 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.759 going to be a big year for Sonic. Not only is Sonic Cross Shadow 401 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:33.759 Generations landing on the Switch in autumn, but fans will also be treated to 402 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.039 the Sonic The Hedgehog three movie on the twentieth of December and a dedicated Knuckles 403 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:41.400 series later this month on twenty sixth of April on that's on Paramount Plus. 404 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.000 So of course this is a year of Sonic The Hedgehog, Sonic three, 405 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:49.960 and Knuckles is actually happening this year. Regarding the latter, franchise producer Toby 406 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:55.400 Asher recently spoke to Pace magazine to describe how the Knuckles series came about and 407 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.680 how the studio is leveraging these smaller projects to enable the Sonic movies to be 408 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.599 of Avengers level events. He's got a quote here, let's just stop. 409 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.559 I mean, I get what they're going for, Emma. Yes, you 410 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:12.480 know frankly, if they're like able to like make the budgets always make sense. 411 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.039 It does feel like they're kind of pulling this off a little bit where 412 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:18.440 it's like, yeah, okay, you're gonna build knuckles up more in the 413 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:23.079 show. You could probably introduce some like more tertiary characters in the show and 414 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:26.839 then bring them all together in a couple of these movies. Yeah, I 415 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.119 see what they're going for. Is that right for Sonic? I suppose it's. 416 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.279 It seems like it's working. How do you feel about it? I 417 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.400 also feel like it's working. I would just like to relay to you my 418 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:44.799 movie theater going experience. Please to see the very first of these Sonic films. 419 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.000 I have to say the second one a lot better than the first one. 420 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.519 The first one was basically it was like any of them. It was 421 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.640 like Alvin and the Chipmunks. It was like any of those ones where it's 422 00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:02.000 like, you know, human being plus animated creatures. It is not better 423 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.200 than any of those movies, but people thought it was because they love Sonic, 424 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.119 Okay, Ben Schwart, it was a little bit. It was a 425 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:11.519 little bit better than Hop, a little bit better than Hop, which which 426 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:17.640 also has James Marsen, and I adored James mars and I love that He's 427 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.720 like, yeah, I just want to like make movies and enjoy my family 428 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.240 and I don't want to win any awards. And then Jury Duty comes out 429 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.119 and it's unbelievable. But anyway, I digress. So you would have thought 430 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.279 I went to an afternoon This was my mistake as I went to like a 431 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.640 three in the afternoon screening of sogn of the Hedgehog on CityWalk. This is 432 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:40.000 in early twenty twenty. It was as if I were at a rowdy screening 433 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.359 of cats, except for instead of a bunch of drunk adults, it was 434 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:51.079 a bunch of children, sugared up children whose parents just decided for that hour 435 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.960 and a half they did not have to parent their children. There's no laws 436 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.400 running in the aisles. They were screaming at the screen. There was like 437 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:04.039 callin or spots. I was like, what is happening? So I'm saying 438 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:11.160 something about Sonic is working. Sonic it's Avengers for children, And I don't 439 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.079 know if that was really necessarily their target audience, but but again it's very 440 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.440 smart because grown ups are going to show up to see this because they're got 441 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.599 going. Oh, I love sound Padgehog and Jim Carrey's having a great time 442 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.359 in those movies. Shout out to him. But yeah, I mean, 443 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:33.440 they're definitely on one. But I see their point. And also like the 444 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.160 more we talk about, the more I'm like, no, maybe they're right 445 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.480 because the TV shows, Okay, the thing what that happened with Marvel, 446 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.799 which I was a big fan of, when when the movies were happening getting 447 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:48.079 to the end game stuff, and then you know, a lot of the 448 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.000 TV shows started coming out and I tried to keep up, but I was 449 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:52.680 I just that was out of a sense of like, hey, I've spent 450 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:59.240 all this time investing my emotions into the story and these characters, and I 451 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:00.880 got a big payoff in the end. That was great. I really thought 452 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.200 that the emotional payoff that happened with all those movies was fantastic. So I, 453 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:07.279 you know, and I've already sunk all this costs in there into there, 454 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.200 so I should carry that momentum forward with these shows. And they just 455 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.880 didn't do it for me, and it felt like homework and it got out 456 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.519 of hand, I think, And part of that is I'm a busy adult 457 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.839 I got things going on, I have to pick and choose how I spend 458 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:28.200 my leisure time. The children based audience for Sonic the Hedgehog maybe makes this 459 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.400 make some more sense because they can come to watch a TV show time, 460 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.440 they got time, they'll eat up all that slop. It doesn't it don't 461 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.319 matter to them. And so the fact that then they can kids love that 462 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.440 too, like having like a story payoff where it's like I watched the show, 463 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.279 so now I get that reference that means way more to a kid than 464 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.839 it ever even meant to me. So maybe it makes a lot of sense. 465 00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:53.000 I actually think this is genius because, as you say, I can 466 00:32:53.079 --> 00:33:00.359 even remember being a kid and being so excited when I understood a reference means. 467 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.319 And kids, their brains are sponges. They just absorb everything. They're 468 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.680 going to remember everything. They're putting all of these details into these Marvel shows 469 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:15.480 and doing these callbacks. But I'm worrying about did I pay my electric bill? 470 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.799 Children they don't have that, yep, exactly. So it's like that 471 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.039 I think that then being able to take all this time to invest in the 472 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.119 Sonic Universe is probably actually going to pay off. Now, I mean if 473 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:31.200 there's fifteen Sonic shows. Maybe that has diminishing returns, Almost certainly it would. 474 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.960 But if they can, you know, bounce them back and forth between 475 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.519 one or two shows and then another movie every couple of years, you know 476 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.880 the fact that they've already wrapped up Sonic three, that's that's a machine. 477 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.720 They are just they are just throttling through those churning them out, churning them 478 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:51.200 out, and it doesn't seem like it's slowing down. So ecuick but basic 479 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:57.000 Ali Alexi in the basically LEXI cool in the chat. I'm in agreement with 480 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.279 you. I was literally just about to say that Big Cat movie and I 481 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.519 want it to be like my neighbor Totro. But it's just fun. I 482 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.320 think like this to give it gives them space to, like even if it 483 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:13.239 was a series of shorts, like silent shorts about Big the Cat going fishing 484 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.880 and just like having some fun like misadventures like that, would like you can 485 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.880 put that on Paramount plus or whatever, put that on TikTok. I don't 486 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.360 know, there's a lot of space for them to get creative. Yeah, 487 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.920 I don't know where the kids are, all right, Star Wars, Outlaws, 488 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.559 Store excuse me. Star Wars Outlaws story trailer debuts tomorrow. This is 489 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.039 going to be tomorrow, Tuesday, April ninth, at nine am Pacific time, 490 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:42.519 six pm Central European time. I am excited about this because I'm looking 491 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.719 forward to this game, and I keep like forgetting it's coming out this year. 492 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:46.760 I know, you know, we got through Dragon's Dogma two and then 493 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.800 we were looking at the schedule and it's like, oh, you know, 494 00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.760 not not a lot, not a lot left announced for this year, and 495 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.280 then I was forgetting about Outlaws. I do think that that Dragon Age game 496 00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.480 is going to come out later this year. There's a handful of other things, 497 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:00.679 but this is like, honestly, for me, this is this could 498 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:05.239 be a really big one. I thought this game looked very, very well 499 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.679 made. When we saw the debut at Summer Game Fest last year. It 500 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:12.039 came quite place it and since then it's been like one of those ones where 501 00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.000 I'm like, I'm going to put that in the back of my mind because 502 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:15.000 I bet it's so far off, and now it's like, oh no, 503 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.880 wait, no, it's this year, and I am what's happening here is 504 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:22.760 I'm going to watch this story trailer and I'm going to decide whether or not 505 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.920 I believe it's really coming out this year at that point, and then if 506 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.960 if it looks good, it looks promising, then I'm this is going to 507 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.960 be like, Hey, I'm fully anticipating this, especially as someone who's a 508 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.880 you know, big Star Wars fan. So how are you looking forward to 509 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:39.960 Outlaws? Is this something that you've that you've had on your radar? And 510 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:44.800 how do you feel about this trailer? So here is the thing about me 511 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.079 and Star Wars. I love all the Star Wars shit that's not about Jedi, 512 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.239 and that's what Star Wars Outlaws is. So I'm i am actually very 513 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:58.760 very excited for this. The way to make me not excited for this is 514 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.000 if there's any mention of Luke Skywalker. Okay, Star Wars, why do 515 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.679 you try to make your galaxy so small all the time. There are infinite, 516 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:15.960 infinite possibilities and I would like to see this just live in its own 517 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:22.360 space in the galaxy far far away. I am excited about this. I 518 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:28.119 love the little pet creature, the gal who is our heroine. I'm totally 519 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.320 into that. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm actually very very excited for this game. 520 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.159 And don't get me wrong, I liked the Jedi games, like Sure, 521 00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:39.719 Jedi survivor whatever the well in order there he goes like whatever, the 522 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:45.559 first one was. Yeah, those games are fun and I do like them, 523 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:49.039 and I think that they are a nice amount of video game. But 524 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:53.280 yes, I am very excited about Star Wars Outlaws. Yeah, I'm one 525 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:57.920 percent with you about like I don't need Jedi and everything. I get that 526 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.639 Jedi are like a hugely appealing thing to a ton of people and to me 527 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.519 in a lot of ways. But really, the biggest thing that always attracted 528 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.719 me to Star Wars from the first time watching a new Hope was it felt 529 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:14.400 like a real lived in the world where people were scraping by and there was 530 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.880 an economy. I think about like Luke selling his speeder all the time, 531 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.800 where it's right exactly, we got to scrape together enough money to get a 532 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.360 ride to this planet. And I have this old thing and I'm selling it, 533 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.920 and the new one came out, so the fucking Reselle value on mine 534 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.360 dropped to the ground. This sucks. And it's like you It's like you 535 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.719 could feel him struggling with like just the all these forces that aren't the force 536 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.360 acting on his on his life. And I uh so that's why I like 537 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.639 when Andor comes around and it's like, yeah, let's let's talk about someone 538 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.280 just trying to get by, just trying to live it, and like and 539 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.199 then how all that's the feed into the themes of and here's why even that 540 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:52.039 person who doesn't have the force and doesn't it doesn't consider themselves politicals just trying 541 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.800 to get by, Here's why all that ends up with them also fighting against 542 00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.880 the empire. Like that is such perfect storytelling. That's what I want, 543 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:05.519 And it almost feels like it could be very much that thing. And yeah, 544 00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.679 you know, just an outlaw literally an outlaw, a smuggler trying to 545 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:12.360 do that, like stuff like trying to get by doing crimes, petty crimes 546 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:14.960 to make a buck here and there. That's also really going to me. 547 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.480 So yes, I'm in. Yeah, I really do think that Star Wars 548 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:23.599 Outlaws has a ton of potential. So looking forward to seeing that story trailer, 549 00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:27.639 baby, and it's you know, it's this is massive, right, 550 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.920 this is the Division team, use your snowdrop engine. Just such a competent 551 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:36.280 team. I thought that Avatar game was pretty decent in the end of all 552 00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.400 things considered, and it feels like this one's going to be even better, 553 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:43.519 so we'll see. And her hair looks very nineteen seventies as well. That's 554 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:50.880 just which is correct. Star Wars. Absolutely there's somebody in the Empire strikes 555 00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.880 back when they're all evacuating Cloud City, running out with an ice cream maker. 556 00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:58.320 Okay, like that is Star Wars. Yep, she's got the Terrence 557 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:04.320 Howard hair doing out there. Good for her. Super Mario Maker community clears 558 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:08.239 Trimming the Herbs am I almost said herbs. Trimming the Herbs just days before 559 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.719 WEU online shutdown. This is from Liam Dulan at Nintendo Life. Remember how 560 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:17.199 a special task force dubbed Team zero Present managed to clear every level in Super 561 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.760 Mario Maker before in Nintendo's WEU online shutdown, Well, there was only one 562 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.599 illegitimate upload titled Trimming the Herbs I'm just gonna say it, which the community 563 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.559 was determined to overcome. Now, just days remaining, this level has officially 564 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.599 been cleared, as highlighted on the game's subreded. The community persisted and this 565 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:39.599 level was conquered. It was completed by sanny X ninety one SMM two and 566 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.920 you could see the flawlessly executed twenty five second run in a video. The 567 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:49.400 stage had previously been beaten but by a tool assisted speed run, so they 568 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.840 used the tool to basically play the game for them to get through this level. 569 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.719 And now finally a real human has done it, and the WEU online 570 00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:01.320 services are shutting down today. Under the wire they were able to do that, 571 00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:07.119 so this is an incredible feat of human skill and persistence. And they 572 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:13.760 also very said that Nintendo WU online services are shutting down. I did get 573 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.639 in there and download a bunch of Dan's levels on Super Mario Makers, so 574 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:21.719 now I have those locally. Nice. If there's any other Super Mario Maker 575 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:23.119 levels I should get I got some spaces left. Let me know, people, 576 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:28.280 I'll get in there and make that happen. This this is a bummer. 577 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:34.559 There are efforts by the community to revive some Nintendo online services for the 578 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.679 three DS and the WEU not going to name them because I found out that 579 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.599 Nintendo listens to shows and that's how they find Yeah, that's how they find 580 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:46.480 these people and shut them down. I hope that these efforts are so robust 581 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:51.440 that they can enable something like the original Super Mario Maker to live if I 582 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.280 if we got like a hampering over a giant bomb to be like, hey, 583 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.880 let's go back to the original Super Mario Maker and make levels for each 584 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.119 other. If I hope, I hope this effort makes that possible. Yeah, 585 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:07.159 we'll see. Yeah. Yeah, as you say this again goes back 586 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:15.440 to the idea of games preservation being something that's only been taken into account fairly 587 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:21.840 recently. And this is another layer of this is a game that was about 588 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.320 user generated content, yes, yeah, and that falls in a big gray 589 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:36.360 area when it comes to like who owns that? Yep, absolutely all right, 590 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.599 I'm gonna hit this story that I skipped up here. Eugi Naka returns 591 00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:43.840 to Twitter by accusing Dragon Quest producer of lying to court. This is from 592 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:47.400 Andy Robertson at Pucci SI. Last year, Naka was sentenced to thirty months 593 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.840 in prison, suspended for four years, and given two fines totaling one hundred 594 00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.079 and seventy three million yin, which is about one point two million dollars after 595 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.400 he pled guilty to buying shares based on inside information during his time working at 596 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:05.960 publishers Square Enix. Naka hadn't posted on his Twitter account since November of twenty 597 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.239 twenty two, which was shortly before he was formally indicted, but on Sunday 598 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.960 he returned to comment on news that the Top Excuse Me, Dragon Quest producer 599 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:21.599 Miaki will reportedly be reassigned at Square Enix. Yaki is credited as executive producer 600 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:25.280 for Naka's Square Enix title Ballin wonder World. Shout us to Ballen wonder World 601 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.079 as Always, and a Twitter post Naka ledge that Miyaki lied in court documents. 602 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:35.039 Man, my throat is just dying today. You're fun. Yeah, 603 00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.800 I'm just falling apart a little bit, Emma, just a little bit. 604 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:44.000 It's the it's the mysterious plants that are descending to the planet in the midst 605 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.840 of the solar eclips. So if you see them laying on the side of 606 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:51.239 the road, just just let them lay there. Don't don't feed them. 607 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.079 They're crawling up my leg right now. And a Twitter post naco A ledge 608 00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:59.519 that Miaki lied in court documents, presumably part of his insider trading trial. 609 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.000 This is a quote I guess finally. I was hoping he would be gone 610 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:06.320 soon because he is the kind of person who would submit a note with a 611 00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.159 lie with evidence to a court of law. I've never met him, but 612 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:14.280 the new Square Inix president might be a good person. I think that's that 613 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:19.159 is Yuji Naka saying that Miaki, a director on the board who had joined 614 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.480 Square Inix in nineteen ninety two and had long overseen the RPG franchise, will 615 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:27.840 now leave the Japanese company's mobile games, according to Bloomberg's sources. After his 616 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.239 arrest in November twenty twenty two, it was claimed that Naka, who was 617 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.119 working on Ball and Wonder World for Square Inix at the time, was made 618 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.039 aware that Japanese developer arming or amying excuse me, was working on a new 619 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:43.559 Dragon Quest mobile game called Dragon Quest Tact before it was officially announced. Nako 620 00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.360 was arrested for a second time in December twenty twenty two, relating to allegations 621 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:52.320 that he had carried out a similar insider trading scheme after learning confidential information that 622 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.199 Square was planning to make Final Fantasy seven the first Soldier with mobile developer a 623 00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.360 team entertainment. So, yeah, uh U is out there trying to claim 624 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:07.320 that he's been framed this iss Yeah, I'm sure you have Ka like, 625 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:16.199 my thing about Yuji Naka is like you you invented the online console game. 626 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:24.599 You really did. You were unbelievably influential on my childhood playing Fantasy Star Online 627 00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:30.840 on the Dreamcast. I got a keyboard. I got the Dreamcast keyboard so 628 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.079 I could chat, so I could chat with all my friends who were English 629 00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:39.239 speakers, and then I would just communicate with the pre set phrases with all 630 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:45.840 the Japanese players that I was playing with, and basically invented the the sort 631 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:54.239 of predecessor to what like the Monster Hunter games would Buddy, No, you 632 00:44:54.320 --> 00:45:00.599 were okay, you were not framed, but I mean maybe maybe so. 633 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:08.159 But I just if this is if this is a criminal offense that you have 634 00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:14.119 been charged with more than once. Yeah, I don't think you're being framed, 635 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.719 yep. I think you might have just done a little insider training training 636 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.559 is all. And yeah, I mean it's the kind of thing where it's 637 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.559 just a blatant thing, like finding out about something investing in it before the 638 00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.639 public knows. Yeah, everyone kind of knows at this point. Don't do 639 00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:29.440 that. Just don't do that. Do that. Yeah, you didn't get 640 00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:32.599 a hot stock tip. You learned something from the company you worked at and 641 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:39.360 didn't tell anybody. Yeah, correct, Uji Naka is like he didn't actually 642 00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:45.840 go to prison. That thirty months prison sentence was suspended, so it's like 643 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:49.320 that it's like hanging over him if he were to like violate the law again. 644 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.480 So it's like, man, just you gotta be quiet. You just 645 00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.559 got to go shut your mouth up for the next couple of years, get 646 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.320 past all this, and then you won't have to deal with the repercussions if 647 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.079 you were to like, you know, poke the bear and then someone's like, 648 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.920 well, here's another time you did insider trading or something like that. 649 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:08.519 So yeah, yeah, you're not making a good case for yourself here. 650 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:12.800 Let's just put it that way, right. Does Eujinnaka ever come back and 651 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.119 make another video game? I don't know. Man, As you say, 652 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:22.840 if he lays low for a while, just get yourself out of the public 653 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.480 spotlight. It's very possible that ultimately this is a blip on the radar and 654 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.320 he is able to make a comeback. At the end of the day. 655 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:37.480 It's it's insider trading. Capitalism's a hell of a drug, and you know, 656 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:45.920 I hate to be like, this isn't the worst crime. No one 657 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.280 got hurt. I don't think. I guess. I'm sure someone could show 658 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.159 me how people get hurt from insider training but trading. But yeah, uh 659 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:57.960 yeah, people are bringing up other famous near do wells in video gaming. 660 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.480 So he can go team with Tommy Tall, Rico and Dennis Dyak, bring 661 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:06.360 the bring the all star team together. Let's make it happen that. Actually, 662 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:08.679 I would be legit excited if they all those guys got together. We're 663 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.159 like, we're gonna make a game. It would be a shit show, 664 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.960 awful. The egos Tommy tell A, Rico would be incredible. I would 665 00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:19.119 like I would listen to a podcast of him and Dennis Diak because they would 666 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.760 just slowly fall apart over a matter of weeks. Man, make that happen. 667 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:27.920 Yeah, all right, Finally here, the first episode of Amazon's Fallout 668 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.159 show will be viewable on Twitch. This is from Tom Ivan at VGC on 669 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:36.840 the same day as the whole season is made available on Amazon's Prime Video subscription 670 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.559 service. Fans will be able to watch the first episode on Twitch via a 671 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:45.239 number of streamers, including Shroud, Brooke ab and The Only Ryan. The 672 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:50.199 show you Know, starring a bunch of cool people like Walter Goggins is coming 673 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.239 here very soon from Jonathan Nolan and some others, people that worked on HBO's 674 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:58.360 West World. Yeah, the show I think is going to have all of 675 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:02.679 its episodes hit Amazon Prime once. Yes, so this is like a little 676 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:06.400 teaser if you don't have Prime, or maybe get to convince people to open 677 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:10.679 up Prime. How do you feel about them showing it alongside because presumably this 678 00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:15.079 is going to be the streamers sitting on the screen watching the show alongside and 679 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.639 able to actually show the it on screen side. I mean, I don't 680 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.719 I don't know if you've played very much with the Twitch watch party feature with 681 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.960 the Amazon Prime ex fan of watch parties, which they're getting rid of and 682 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.280 very soon. Well, yeah, we did when Rings of Power dropped a 683 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:36.280 few years ago, and that did the week to week model on the Phantom 684 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.559 Twitch channel. Bailey and I did watch parties every single week for it was 685 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:45.920 and it was really so much fun. So yeah, I mean this and 686 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:50.800 look obviously like if you have an Amazon Prime account problem solved, you know 687 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.719 the watch party feature still exists right now. When are they retiring that? 688 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:58.400 I think it's in the next couple of months. Yeah, but it's not 689 00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:02.480 it's either la or in Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe unless 690 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.000 maybe they are retiring it right before the fallout show, which probably sucks for 691 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:12.480 which would suck for smaller creators who that's like a really great way to engage 692 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:19.000 with your community. I guess sure that maybe they're doing this to convince people 693 00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:25.039 to subscribe to Amazon Prime if they don't have it. Who out there doesn't 694 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:29.519 have an answer? Yeah, right, Honestly, that makes me think that 695 00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:31.679 this is about like, hey, people have Amazon Prime, but they don't 696 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:36.199 actually open Prime Video all that often. So what can we do? How 697 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.039 can we leverage it to get people to like use this thing that they already 698 00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:43.000 have? And sure, I think that's this is about that. I think, 699 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.199 use this thing that they already have and then pay the upgrade to not 700 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:50.239 have commercials. Like yeah, I think there's part of them is like, 701 00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.840 you know, we see a certain number of people who will never cancel Prime 702 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:58.400 once they start watching Prime Video or something like that, and so I like, 703 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.719 maybe they I'm God. The way that these companies behave I think it's 704 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:07.599 very hard to decipher exactly how they what their key performance and indicators are. 705 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.159 I think it's easy to assume like, yeah, they want those conversions to 706 00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:14.159 the higher tier, and I'm sure they do want that. I think there's 707 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:17.360 part of them that's like, hey, we are at Prime Video and we 708 00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:22.079 have a relationship with Twitch, and we we need to have certain numbers to 709 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.719 prove to our bosses, whether that you know, our viewership numbers, to 710 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.800 show engagement, to show that we're pulling our weight when it comes just to 711 00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:31.480 the Prime subscription, and like, so let's go leverage what we could do 712 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:35.159 with Twitch to make that stuff happen. It could be that simple. I 713 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:39.199 don't know. Yeah, yeah, and I did want to say that in 714 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:45.039 chat, pac Mand has said that watch parties are actually already gone as a 715 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:50.320 few days ago. Wow, that's stings. That sucks. It was super 716 00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.079 broken for a long time, that especially whenever I tried to load it up 717 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:57.400 on the Twitch android app, which sucks. Yeah, bad app totally, 718 00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.920 It's a terrible app anyway. But yeah, and that's you know what, 719 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:05.320 that's maybe the real st like, okay, yeah, fall, Twitch just 720 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.719 feels like it's slowly dying in a lot of ways. I'm not like clearly 721 00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:15.039 as huge viewership numbers we are, but we understand the cost of a stream. 722 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:20.039 And so when I look at like all of these other features that were 723 00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.559 like built up they were gonna you know, the Twitch stream together or whatever 724 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:28.599 was the multi team streaming stuff, It's like, well, then, you 725 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.039 know, all these things that were making it cooler or more convenient, or 726 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:35.639 more efficient or work in a more slicker way, all that stuff got tried, 727 00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:37.800 they abandoned it, and now it's sort of just either a vestige that 728 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:43.800 hangs around it doesn't really work anymore, or it is something like watch parties, 729 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:45.719 which was like that a vestige that was broken in a lot of ways, 730 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:50.280 and now they just completely ripped it out. They're not trying new exciting 731 00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.559 things. It feels like they are in the maintenance period of let's just make 732 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.559 as much money as we can, yes, wow, while spending as little 733 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.159 money as possible and just let it coast. And it's an oh boy, 734 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:06.000 we're already there. With Twitch. That's maybe a bad sign. I don't 735 00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:13.559 yeah. I mean, Twitch is such an interesting example because you know, 736 00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.960 in my experience with Twitch, there there is a lot of you know, 737 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:27.800 there's a big awareness that Twitch's audience is going to age out of Twitch because 738 00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.199 you know, a lot of the really really big streamers that are getting these 739 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:37.840 huge numbers in terms of viewership, a lot of their viewers are young and 740 00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:42.960 don't have disposable income. It's like we were talking about earlier. I don't 741 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.360 have time to watch somebody play Fortnite on Twitch for four hours. You know 742 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:53.440 who does children? So it feels like over the years, they've made so 743 00:52:53.639 --> 00:53:00.239 many attempts to create premium content and that audience just isn't on Twitch, Like 744 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.639 I just don't know. Yeah, And it feels like, you know, 745 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:07.559 someone's like, oh, there's new twelve year olds every day, but I 746 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.440 don't know. The next generation of twelve year olds feels like they're getting on 747 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:15.960 YouTube shorts and Twitch or TikTok excuse me, and then when they want to 748 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.320 watch live content creators, we'll guess what those platforms are doing that now. 749 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:23.079 Yeah, and Twitch is still going to be getting its fair share of all 750 00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:29.199 that audience, of course. But the point is always with all these conversations, 751 00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:31.840 where's the growth come from? Because that's what these companies all care about. 752 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:36.400 And I think we're looking at Twitch and they tried a bunch of things 753 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:39.400 to grow and I think it feels like they have admitted to themselves that hey, 754 00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:43.159 they've done all those things, none of them really worked. So here 755 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.519 we are just throw in more ads and take a bigger cut of the of 756 00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:52.599 the you know, your biggest, your biggest creators revenue. And then you 757 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:57.360 know, if the Android app is broken, so what can they watch ads 758 00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:59.760 still on there? Well? Yeah the ads load? Okay, good, 759 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:02.960 that's all that matters. So yeah, you know that this is where this 760 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.599 is where everything's headed. Uh and Bloyd sucks though it really Yeah? Alright, 761 00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:13.239 Uh, let's get to the poll question from last week. I asked, 762 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.519 are you getting excited for the Summer Game Mess? Said yes, I'm 763 00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:23.159 already excited dead uh and forty one percent say I'll get excited when Sony, 764 00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:30.880 Microsoftintendo confirmed shows. Uh yeah, let's uh. I am excited for myself, 765 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.440 but I'm kind of with everybody. Once we hear all the confirmations, 766 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.199 that's when we'll really get into stuff. Yeah. Yeah, But as it 767 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.599 stands right now, I am like thinking about getting ready for our Summer Game 768 00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:44.559 Mess. We're gonna be doing GV at night, and I thought we should 769 00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:49.159 we should brand it as Summer Game Mess. That's my brand Jeff Grubs same 770 00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.840 summer game mess. When when Jeff Keeley was doing a summer game fest, 771 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:54.599 that's what I did. I was like, I'll just do Jeff grubs summer 772 00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:59.400 game mess instead. So summer game mess everywhere. I love it. That's 773 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.440 good brand. All right, that's an old poll. By the way, 774 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.079 Sean forgot to put up Friday's pole, even though I never asked him to 775 00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:07.920 do that. He just takes these things upon himself. What was the Friday 776 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.039 pol We could do both? Then, all right, well, here's today's 777 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.400 poll. Are you excited about Star Wars Outlaws? Yes? Or no? 778 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:17.480 And then let me see what if I can remember Friday's pool. I think 779 00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:22.719 I wrote it down here. Let's see here. Oh yeah, it was 780 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:24.440 this from a couple weeks ago. What do you prefer higher resolutions or higher 781 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:29.639 frame rates? Yes? So okay, we'll just do the one we'll do. 782 00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:31.320 Are you excited about Star Wars Outlaws? All right? West frame rates 783 00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:34.360 and the resolution? All right, let's do both. Cool? Never mind, 784 00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.280 I changed my mind immediately. We'll talk about the answer to both of 785 00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:43.079 those on Wednesday. Feel free to go to YouTube dot com slash at Giant 786 00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.360 Bomb hit the community tab you could vote on the polls there. The results 787 00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.800 will come in on Wednesday show. We'll discuss them on Tuesday. However, 788 00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:52.760 we have the Giant BombCast happening, all that good stuff, Emma, Why 789 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.000 don't you tell people where they can find you as well? Yes, so 790 00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:02.320 today around ten Amacific time, you can find me out in the streets looking 791 00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:08.000 directly at the sun. Otherwise you can find me at Emma Fife all over 792 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:13.840 the internet wherever m fife'es are sold. Even though I don't particularly participate in 793 00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.960 the social media anymore. Like I said, I'm in the discord server, 794 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.880 so if you got anything you want to talk to me about, hit me 795 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.719 up there. I like to keep myself in in safe, nice little communities 796 00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:29.840 rather than throwing myself to the whims of the internet anymore. Correct move these 797 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:35.320 days? Absolutely all right? Anything else happening on Giant bomb Yeah? Yeah, 798 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.159 the BombCast will happened tomorrow. I just found out that Jan will be 799 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.360 traveling still, so we'll try to piece one together for you everybody tomorrow. 800 00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:44.519 But there will be a BombCast. We're going to go figure out what the 801 00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:46.519 rest of this week looks like at a meeting here to do exactly that, 802 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:52.119 but you can expect Blake Club to likely return. Upf will happen, Voice, 803 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:53.519 Smelt, Dump Truck, all those good shows, and then maybe we'll 804 00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:58.039 sneak in some other special things for you as well. There's some definitely some 805 00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.400 things that we've been throwing around for a while that we want to get to 806 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:04.639 once Dan's like back from traveling. I want to do another demo, derby 807 00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:08.039 things like that, but all that stuff in its time. In the meantime, 808 00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:10.960 Emma, thank you so much for spending today talking with me about video 809 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.639 games. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me as always, 810 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.199 and thank you all for watching and listening. You're the best audience in gaming. 811 00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:22.199 Until next time, have a good one, take care of yourself, 812 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:22.000 and goodbye.