WEBVTT 1 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:39.920 Well, happy Monday morning here everyone. Welcome to the Mark Cast. Crazy 2 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:43.119 CFL weekend here. I have lots of thoughts on it. I have a 3 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:47.000 new feud with the at CFL account on Twitter. We can get into later 4 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:51.479 as well if you're interested in those shenanigans. But I think my timeline was 5 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:55.399 full of CFL people this weekend. I thought, my god, if you 6 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:58.920 were one of these like XFL or USFL homers that you know, support leagues, 7 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:02.200 would don't watch the CFL like you're probably you were probably missing out. 8 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.640 We'll get lots of thoughts here have Jason and Evan, guys, this this 9 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.120 had to have been the best weekend so far, right, without question. 10 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.719 Absolutely, this is uh the what people talk about when they talk about the 11 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:18.239 CFL being great, and we finally got to see that this week. Evan, 12 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:19.799 how are you doing this morning? Yeah, I'm doing great. You 13 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.239 know, it was. It was a great weekend of games. Like Jason 14 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.760 said, probably the best weekend of games I can remember in a long time, 15 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.400 at least I think since you know, the CFL came back after COVID 16 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.159 from that twenty one season, and probably even before that, you know, 17 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:37.640 I really started following the league and probably twenty nineteen. Started covering it in 18 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:40.959 twenty twenty one, but I really don't remember a slate of games that was 19 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:45.040 this good. I mean, that was really impressive. Well and it was 20 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:47.560 good to me at least like on paper, and not all of these a 21 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:49.159 look to that, you know, I don't think when they pick out Ottawa 22 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.280 had you know, Mark Hey matchup kind of on it and we can get 23 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:55.400 into that. And I was fine, you know, we left to go 24 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:57.280 in the Mariner game and I sit back, I go, what the hell 25 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.719 is going on here? But UH got people checking in Chanst Sam, we 26 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.280 learned the CFL is exciting. We have comments here, Shane coming in an 27 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.840 amazing weekend, Parson, Trevor Harrison, his family one hundred percent. I 28 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:13.439 think especially with Trevor just his life time in the CFL and all the different 29 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.919 teams are kind of everything else. I think that is a big you know, 30 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:21.639 felt kind of across the board. Any initial thoughts on that, Jason, 31 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:23.680 just about Trevor Harrison, aythink you want to stay off the top. 32 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:28.680 Yeah, obviously it's it's a devastating injury. They haven't quite rolled him out 33 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:31.240 for the season, which is I guess a good sign. But honestly, 34 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:36.599 I think that you know, it's sad because you know he is up there 35 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.759 in age. I think he's like thirty seven years old. So I mean, 36 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.439 at this point you got to start considering if this is maybe it for 37 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:46.280 him in the CFL. I don't think it is personally, but anytime you 38 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.599 suffer a major injury, just like we were talking about with Missoli last week, 39 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:53.719 it could be the end for him in the CFL. So sad to 40 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.080 see that, Yeah, thirty eight, Missoli's up there. I think with 41 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.000 Missoli's thirty five, I mean you get to the point. I don't. 42 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.719 It's only having the back to back injuries might be different in that regard. 43 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.479 Yeah, Evan, I mean, do we see Jevor Harris takes last nap 44 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:08.680 here on what was that Saturday tonight? Yeah, I don't know. You 45 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:13.360 definitely have to ask the question, and I mean the severity of this injury. 46 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.560 I think, really, you know, we'll determine that, like if 47 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:17.759 he does come back the season or if he doesn't, is he prepared to 48 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:21.560 play another year? I think the bigger question here is, you know, 49 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.360 and I had this written down, it kind of feels like the end of 50 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:27.400 an era, because in the event that, I mean, you could possibly 51 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.360 have you know, three guys who have been in the CFL for a long 52 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:34.840 time retire. You Trevor Harris, Jeremiah Massoli, Bolivi Mitchell. All those 53 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:38.639 guys came in the league like twenty eleven, twenty t twenty thirteen. I'm 54 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:42.280 pretty sure. So yeah, I mean, what, we'll see what happens. 55 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:46.039 Personally, I don't know. I couldn't see all three of those guys 56 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.759 going. I definitely think, you know, Bow maybe has the best chance 57 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.960 to stay. Trevor I still think, you know, has some in the 58 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.240 tank. I don't know about Missoli. We already talked about that, you 59 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:59.400 know so much last week. But yeah, it's just so heartbreak and really 60 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:01.240 to see all these you know, quarterback injuries, and not just to the 61 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:03.960 older guys, but I mean, you know, Matthew Schultz went down in 62 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:08.719 the in the Hamilton game, and you know, we're kind of entering this 63 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:12.800 state in the CFL where you're gonna have a lot of backups come in and 64 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:16.279 you know, we talked about last week about just how thin the quarterback depth 65 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.800 is some of these teams, and you know, the development of certain quarterbacks. 66 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.759 So it's gonna be really interesting to see, you know how teams kind 67 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:29.560 of you know, piece things together with all these injuries happening very good, 68 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:30.959 it's I mean different way. Yeah, just terrible. And like I said, 69 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:32.959 I mean you just saw it on all the faces there. I mean 70 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.040 I think that that speaks. And they had you know, shots in the 71 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:39.360 crowd and just you know here and he bringing Trevor and you kind of you 72 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.839 know, they're off to a decent start, right they were, went three 73 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:45.000 and one or whatever. I mean, the writer's looking good here. We'll 74 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:47.480 see any initial we'll get into the game. But any initial thoughts on Mason 75 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.319 Fine here? Jason, I mean, he had obviously that that Hail Mary 76 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:54.079 crazy, you know. I mean, he's gotten an arm and they at 77 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.800 least felt fine last season going with him with Cootie Vigardo kind of all of 78 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.560 that mess. Any initial thoughts on our man Mason. Yeah, My initial 79 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.839 thoughts from rewatching this game on Sunday because I didn't get to see it live, 80 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:09.480 was that Mason Fine has the athleticism to move around back there, So 81 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.120 I think that gives you a chance, especially with the state of a lot 82 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.079 of offensive lines in the CFL. It's pretty much a necessity unless you're a 83 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.199 guy that can read the defense super quickly get the ball in your hands quickly, 84 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:23.240 like a Trevor Harris. So I think fine, having that ability to 85 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.439 run around back there, we'll give him a little bit of a chance. 86 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.079 Yeah, James saying the sex with my bomber's ass and very had for the 87 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.920 Red Blacks and the Bombers will make people just checking in here Denzel talking about 88 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:35.199 Red Pricy. It doesn't seem like we're getting more voices here checking in at 89 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:38.920 least on my Twitter. People kind of invested in the CFL, which I 90 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.319 think is good as well. We can get into the first game. I 91 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.240 have notes we'll kind of go back, you know, we'll go and reverse 92 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.079 here. Lots of talk on the Edmonton game as well. I'm sure we'll 93 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.680 get to but this Calgary Saskatchewan, I kind of we were at the Mariner 94 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:54.959 game, so I knew the ending to this one before, you know, 95 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.160 and then watching it and replay, and it was funny because Jordan, they 96 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.759 came downstairs to see that the hail marriage. She's like, oh my god, 97 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:01.839 that's great. It's hit well you just got the way. I mean, 98 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.759 it's only there's only there's still you know, a minute laughter or whatever. 99 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:09.720 Evans should should Tevin there have have slid, shouldn't have gone down, 100 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.160 save some time and then get the the year. However that you have that 101 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:15.879 that final with Saskatchewan, that final interaction went down, Yeah, I mean, 102 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.519 you know he could have done that, but I I mean I appreciated 103 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.680 the way that the game ended. Um, you know, in my notes, 104 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:26.839 I just pretty much said, you know, redde Parentis is clutch, 105 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:30.199 and he's been in the CFL now for um over a decade. I mean 106 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.720 that game was interesting because you know, I kind of I stopped watching with 107 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:38.160 about two minutes left in the in the fourth quarter, and I went back 108 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.959 and you know, watched the end there a little bit that I missed because 109 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:45.040 I noticed the score you know, went into the thirties without being in overtime, 110 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:46.519 and I thought, oh, geez, you know, how did that 111 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.040 happen? So I ended up seeing you know, the Mason Fine kind of 112 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:53.279 the crazy touchdown to Tevan Jones where he kind of you know bobbled it and 113 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:57.079 with all the defenders, and I don't know that that was really interesting to 114 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:59.879 see. But yeah, I mean, you know, Calgary really needed this 115 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.199 when I talked about it last week when we were previewing, Um, this 116 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:05.879 week, just given the state of the West, I think this was a 117 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.839 must win game for Calgary and part of the reason if you want to talk 118 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.199 about Jake mayor here, Um, you know, he kind of returned to 119 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:15.439 his old form for really the first time this season. Um, finally looked 120 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.240 like again, you know, he was worthy of that starting job, you 121 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.079 know, worthy of being the franchise quarterback in Calgary. And I think it 122 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:25.319 finally made fans, you know, Stampeter's fans not have to worry about that 123 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:28.519 as much because for this first month of the season or whatever, it really 124 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.279 wasn't looking good. To be honest, there wasn't much to take away from, 125 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.720 you know, Jake Mayer's campaign, and you know, finally here he 126 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:36.800 is, you know, doing things. He's on the right track, right, 127 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:42.040 you know, UM finding multiple receivers even though his receiving corps you know, 128 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:45.000 might not be the strongest, and just really you know, all around, 129 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.920 I think he had a great game. Yeah, this lu fair hack 130 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.800 E. I can't even say this last name, ay one. I he 131 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:55.519 really busting onto the scene here, Jason, you have your Calgary shot on 132 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:59.240 how Darby? How did Arbay Mayor do today? Yeah? This weekend? 133 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:01.680 Yeah, I think I agree with Evan they he had his best game of 134 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.040 the season by far in this one. I think what was really encouraging for 135 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.519 me is that the rough Riders took away the Stampeter's run game, yet they 136 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.439 were still able to move the ball, and I think that was really encouraging 137 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.920 because I think they really relied on the run game to pick up first downs 138 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.360 in the first few games of the season. Here were really able to move 139 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.839 the ball with the passing game, which they were able to do in this 140 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.199 one, so I think that was very encouraging. I think the best team 141 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:30.360 won in this game. I think that's scatchwe having two punt return touchdowns. 142 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.840 They had didn't really do much on offense throughout the course of the game other 143 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.559 than that, you know, miracle play and a couple of other players throughout 144 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.559 the game. But I think, yeah, the better team won and Calgary 145 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:45.039 almost let it slip away at the end, but ultimately a huge win for 146 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:48.000 them, And we'll talk about it later. But I think with the injury 147 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.799 to Trevor Harris. I think it's pretty likely that Calgary will ultimately end up 148 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:56.080 hopping Saskatchewan of the standings as we go throughout the season. Yeah, it 149 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.679 was crazy because they hadn't until it was like that Hail Mary though Saskatchwan hadn't 150 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:03.639 had offensive touchdown there you had the two and Mario Alfred And it's crazy because 151 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.200 they always show, you know, for whatever that grocery giveaway is in the 152 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.679 CFL where they're like, oh, you know, Sally, you you know 153 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.759 if you get the punt return or whatever, like, oh, Sally, 154 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:15.559 you know, you in one hundred dollars And I thought it used to be 155 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.519 a million if there was two in the game or something like it was whatever 156 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:20.960 the giveaway and then today or whatever because he had it, I think it 157 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.039 was like fifty thousand and grocery points or whatever. Jason, are they rigging 158 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.320 this now or are you taking away of the million? Like, well, 159 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:31.159 I don't understand how this giveaway works. Yeah, well I'm not too invested 160 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.440 in it because Save on Foods is not even like a Canada wide company, 161 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.679 so it's not even They're not even available on Ontario where I live, so 162 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.519 I can't really get too invested on it. And I'm pretty sure that it's 163 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:48.240 based on kick return touchdowns, not punt return touchdowns, if I'm not mistaken, 164 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.399 which kick return touchdowns are pretty rare in the CFL. Yeah, no, 165 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.120 but he was good though, because yeah, you always see that. 166 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.480 I will say, No. I had a quick note here, the shape 167 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:56.559 hastererson of it all. Well, you live through him. He was the 168 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:01.759 first round pick for the usf L. Came in and you know he's like 169 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:03.159 their short yardage guy. But they're like, well, you know, they 170 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.639 want to give him some different looks, right, so the defense isn't always 171 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.159 expecting him whatever, And Shade took it was after I think, I don't 172 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:15.360 know if Trevor got dadamn. Shade took one snap and looked very frazzled through 173 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.120 the ball office. He was getting stacked in the backfield. That okay, 174 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.960 like Shay, I don't know if he still needs some season on that. 175 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.799 Evan, we lived through the Shan shape attager. They're you surprised here with 176 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.240 him in Saskatchewan. Um no, I mean he had short yardage experience in 177 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:33.519 the CFL, I think before he came to the USFLUM I'm perfectly happy with 178 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:35.879 Mason Fine having that job. You know, he's one of these guys we 179 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:41.120 always talk about year three in the CFL being the year for you know, 180 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.159 a jump and quarterbacks, and Mason Fine is in his third year and he's 181 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:48.039 spent all three years now with Saskatchewan, so he's had time to develop in 182 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:52.879 that system behind you know, Cody Fajardo and now Trevor Harris has gone down. 183 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.159 Um, I would like to see Shape Patterson maybe a bit. Um. 184 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:58.559 I think his time in the USFL, you know, really didn't go 185 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.600 as he expected or maybe as any of us expected. Um. I mean, 186 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.159 he got benched, you know, in favor of Paxton Lynch, who 187 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:09.399 at one point was also with Saskatchewan. I kind of find that funny. 188 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.639 But yeah, I mean, you know, I do think Shaye Patterson still 189 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.720 has potential as a passer. But you know, there's a reason, like 190 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.840 he was the short yardage quarterback now and he was a short yardage quarterback before, 191 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.360 because they have more trust and guys like Mason Fine, and personally, 192 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.559 I think that's the right decision. You know, I'm not saying Shaye Patterson 193 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:31.279 couldn't start a game here, but I just like Mason Fine, I think 194 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:33.840 a bit more. Again, would it hurt to have Shaye Patterson worked in 195 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.399 No, I would honestly like to see it at some point, just because 196 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.799 I feel like it would make things more diverse. But and you want to 197 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.159 talk to me, I think Mason Fine is the best option here. What 198 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:50.759 that's here, Jason? I mean Trevor was just getting beat up even before 199 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:52.399 the injury. I mean he had there was a couple of big sacks on 200 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.679 him and him him trying to scramble like it didn't feel like I don't knowing 201 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.399 that he got injured in the fourth I might seeing these hits arelier in the 202 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:01.759 game, right, and I'm paying attention to that any other thoughts and then 203 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.480 being able to keep him protected or not. Yeah, I think their offensive 204 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.960 line issues have started to resurface a little bit over the past couple of weeks. 205 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:11.559 I think chev has massed a lot of those issues by getting the ball 206 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.480 out quickly the first handful of weeks of the season, But I think ultimately 207 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:18.799 some of those problems are still there, and especially when they play against Calgary. 208 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.639 I think, you know, Mike Rose, their defensive tackle, who 209 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.159 I had rated as the eleventh best player on my top fifty players list going 210 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:31.360 into the season. He is a dominant defensive tackle, pass rusher, and 211 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.159 I think that, you know, he always plays his best against the scatch 212 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.679 one, and he did in this one. He had a sack right before 213 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:41.240 that Hail Mary played by Mason Fine that looked like it was going to end 214 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.519 the game. But I think that, Yeah, the issues versa scatch one 215 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.960 on the offensive line resurfaced the last couple of weeks, which is not a 216 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:52.679 great sign for Mason Fine going forward. We have this Timmy Lee Lewis as 217 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.120 well. Here I had the tweet saved him in on the neglist coming in 218 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:00.639 for Calgary. You know, we've talked about We've talked about Calgary, like, 219 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.600 you know, having all these injuries and lackably a weapons for mayor. 220 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.679 What did you make here of Tommy Lee Lewis here at Evan. I mean, 221 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.159 he had one catch and it was for a touchdown. Right, He's 222 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.559 gonna get worked into the offense more and more, I think, you know, 223 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.759 to be honest, him and Mark and Michelle on paper are probably the 224 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.879 two top options. Now. I was more focused on just how cool of 225 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:20.000 a story it was. I mean, we've talked, or you know, 226 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.120 Naylor has talked and other people have talked about, you know, their opinions 227 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.320 on the necklist and you know, is it really beneficial for the CFL. 228 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.960 But in this case, it was kind of cool. You know where Calgary, 229 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.679 you know, a team who would be looking at this guy for seven 230 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.399 years, you know, and like he was still doing find things in the 231 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.159 NFL seven years ago or even I don't even know when he when he was 232 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:45.240 like drafted or under. I don't know, I'd have to I'd have to 233 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:46.200 look back at that. I mean, I remember Tommy le Lewis when he 234 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.399 was with the Saints and everything. But I think it was just cool to 235 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.720 see, you know, they waited seven years to get him and he actually 236 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.200 came after all that time, you know, once his NFL career had kind 237 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.440 of faded out, and then in his first game, you know, he 238 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.919 has a touchdown first catch even in the CFL. So that was pretty fun. 239 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:07.080 I would hope to see him again get worked more into that offense as 240 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.720 time goes on him and Mark and Michelle. But yeah, I mean, 241 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.159 great, great story there. I thought that was fun. Anything else, 242 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:15.720 Jason Calgary is a scatchway, I think as you wanted to touch on. 243 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.120 Yeah, So Tommy Lee Lewis also had a punt return touchdown that was called 244 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.759 back. It was quite incredible as well. But uh yeah, so we 245 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.519 also did that in the game. I think that one thing with Calgary is, 246 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.559 yes, we talked about this receiver position for them and how it's been 247 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.639 an issue at the beginning of the season here. But I think that you're 248 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.840 starting to see the pieces if they can just play a little bit, you 249 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.200 know more with this same lineup, I think that they have enough pieces there 250 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:43.519 to potentially get back to those expectations we had before the season. I think 251 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:48.200 once Michelle gets more comfortable, once they get um, you know, um, 252 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:52.759 Tommy Lee Lewis more incorporated into the offense. Bagelton's having a great season. 253 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:54.200 It's great to see that from him after a down year from him. 254 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.759 So I think, you know, Kunabano is how you say that name. 255 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.159 He's played very well to start the season as well, had a big breakthrough 256 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.159 game in this one. So you're starting to see the pieces come to gather 257 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.320 a little bit for the Stampeders and it's good to see. Yeah, it 258 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.000 feels like they were trying to get Bagleton in Earlier in the season. I 259 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:13.679 think he had a couple of big drops if I remember I finally kind of 260 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.480 picking up there. Yeah, you talked about that the kick return. Yeah, 261 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.159 that was one of those like you get these and they showed and it 262 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.960 was like an illegal block or whatever. I mean, they go back and 263 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.320 show, but you know it's so excited and he's in the end zone and 264 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.639 then you're like, oh, yeah, eighty yards back here, you know, 265 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.639 whenever, kind of they gates the whole thing. And there was a 266 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:33.919 couple of plays this weekend like that. I know they had Glenn Sue. 267 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:35.000 There's always trying to point out like, well, no, like this is 268 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.519 You're not supposed to be that of sat like this is whatever. But Evan 269 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.200 any other thought said anything on this game? Yeah, I mean again, 270 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.000 yeah, Lutheranum, he was someone you know, I think I talked about 271 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.440 Treyodoms Dukes last week or the week before again, one of these guys to 272 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:52.440 kind of, you know, Calgary has is a good depth piece that you 273 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:56.320 know has an opportunity to step up. And you know Luther did that in 274 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.960 this game. I've been waiting for that from him for a long time, 275 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.039 I'm you know, and I would expect him to do similar things for the 276 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:04.919 rest of the season. I do believe he has a pretty high ceiling. 277 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:08.200 And yeah, I mean we kind of talk about Calgary's receiving corps, you 278 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:12.360 know, not necessarily lost, but just some maybe a room that could have 279 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.960 a bit more depth. But honestly, at this point, like it kind 280 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.840 of seems like every week they have a different leading receiver, so it seems 281 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.440 like a pretty diverse group there. And then yeah, I think Reggie Bagelton 282 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:25.679 is still kind of like the number one guy in that room, even though 283 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:27.360 he didn't have I mean, he had a pretty decent game this time around. 284 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.679 And then yeah, the other thing, James Vaughters, Julian Houser and 285 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.440 then Mike Rose, who Jason already talked about, all had two sacks each, 286 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.360 which I thought was pretty impressive and again, unfortunately, probably a reason 287 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:41.720 why, you know, Trevor Harris ended up going down because there was just 288 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:45.159 so much pressure up front. But yeah, I mean Calgary's defense, it's 289 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.360 not the first time, you know, they've done stuff like this. I 290 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:49.919 think they have a lot of good lineman. I'm up front, you know, 291 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:53.559 even outside of of Mike Rose. I'm just a really impressive unit all 292 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.720 around. And you know, again, it's such a shame to see Trevor 293 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.200 Harris go down. I think, you know, we sit here and talk 294 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.039 about this game and all the cool stuff that happened in the back and forth, 295 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.319 but that whole that injury really lingers, you know, just like last 296 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:10.359 week with the Jeremiah a Sole injury, which you could argue is worse because 297 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:14.400 that's officially season ending. It's his second major injury in two years. But 298 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.200 you get the point, right, It's it's just sad to see, you 299 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:18.400 know, things like that happened, and I'm glad that, you know, 300 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:22.920 we got around to talking about that. It looked really bad too, Like 301 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.400 I saw there because I had seen the replay on Twitter before I had watched 302 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:27.119 the game, and I'm like, oh my god, you know, it's 303 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:30.480 just one of those you can see. I just wanted to shout out. 304 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:33.960 So Dante Williams had that crazy pick where it was like it was a contested 305 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.720 ball and it bounced off with ever someone's helmet and he scooped to that for 306 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.200 Saskatchewan. Kind of a good defensive there. Anything else, Jason we can 307 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.039 get onto the next one. Just a brief note on Saskatchewan. I think 308 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:48.799 they really miss Roland Milligan in the second area. I think he's been a 309 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:52.559 really strong presence for them over the past couple of years. And I think 310 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.559 that Calgary was able to find a lot of open receivers in this one, 311 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.720 and I think, yeah, his presence was missed. All right, let's 312 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:04.440 go here over to this was this was the funny one. I'm sitting here, 313 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.759 I'm watching the game, Dorothy, we're working out, getting ready. 314 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.079 We're going to the Mariner game. And it was you know, eighteen three 315 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.319 and a half and I'm like, this is like I'm getting in the shower. 316 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:18.119 This is terrible. And then to see yeah, you know, I 317 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.440 guess Dustin Crum kind of willed this team back whatever to come, and you 318 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:23.119 know, the tie and the overtime and I'm sitting there at the bar watching 319 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.799 the overtime before we go to the game. Jason, how improbable was this 320 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:32.319 was? This comeback? Well? I was actually I went out to the 321 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:36.839 four JEFC game, which is the Hamilton's soccer team, so I actually missed 322 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.279 the last part of this game. So I left when it was I believe 323 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:44.839 it was twenty five to nine four the Blue Bombers with about seven minutes left 324 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.279 in the fourth quarter, and then I turn on my phone and it's like, 325 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:49.880 what the hell they won in overtime, and it's like very, very 326 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:53.599 improbable. I had to watch it the next day and fall and it was 327 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:59.720 just crazy improbable comeback, just like it was, just like I imagined it 328 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:02.519 would be when I saw that final score. I mean, you got to 329 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.160 give a lot of props to Dustin Crumb for sticking in there. He had 330 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:10.039 a rough first half, only twenty yards passing in the first half, but 331 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.680 he was able to restructure the game plan. The Red Blacks were able to 332 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:18.160 restructure the game plan and put him on the path to success, put him 333 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:21.599 on the path to success for the second half. And uh, honestly, 334 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:25.519 I think it was just super impressive and you know, really happy for Red 335 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:29.039 Blacks fans. They've suffered a lot over the past couple of years. Well, 336 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:30.680 I mean, yeah, there was a point in the first half where 337 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.799 it was twelve first downs to Winnipeg to zero for I mean they had they 338 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.960 had did not have a first down, and telling to think, about three 339 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.200 minutes left in the first half there, Evan, what did you make because 340 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:42.680 we were you know, I was in the chat. I'm like, Crumb 341 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.440 is crumbing, Like we're we're moving on, we're getting on the ship here 342 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:49.720 and then to come back, do you just him scrambling his tanasy? I 343 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.799 mean, what do you what? Do you kind of credit this victory too? 344 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.160 Yeah, definitely his ability to run the football. Um, I think 345 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:57.880 there was a lot to be you know, left desired sort of in the 346 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.759 passing department. And look, it's his first CFL start, So I'm not 347 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.839 going to rip on the guy. I mean, you know last week I 348 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:04.880 kind of said the same thing. I'm like, you know, his legs 349 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.079 are, you know, an extremely important asset, and this time it won 350 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.119 them the game. And I think it's really interesting, you know how we're 351 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.759 looking at this scenario where justin Crumb, you know, scores a late touchdown, 352 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.960 guess the two point conversion, wins in overtime, when he was so 353 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:21.519 close to doing all of that last week in Hamilton. You know, he 354 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:23.359 was like one yard short from the end zone and it could have happened then. 355 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.720 And I remember Jason saying, you know, he could have been like 356 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:29.920 the hero for Ottawa in that game, and look what happened this time around 357 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:30.519 him, and I think he was more than a hero. You know. 358 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:34.240 They were the commentators on TSN, or it might have been the panel, 359 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.279 you know, they were saying, like Ottawa, you know, has needed 360 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.039 a win like this. You know, they've waited so long, and again 361 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:45.440 they had a really long home losing streak for a while too, So it's 362 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.480 just great to see this happen. And I think, you know, just 363 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:52.440 the game as a whole, and we'll get more into the Winnipeg side in 364 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:55.960 a bit, but I think, you know, it was just so like 365 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:59.039 we talked about it last week, and this was the game where you're like, 366 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:03.279 okay, like you just kind of hope Ottawa hangs around. And for 367 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.519 the first like three and a half quarters of this game, it went just 368 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:08.000 as I imagined. You know. It was, you know, the more 369 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:12.160 experienced Winnipeg team, you know, pulling in front Ottawa just not really knowing 370 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.119 what to do. They were kind of lost. Yet they didn't even have 371 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.319 a first down until there was like three minutes left or something in the second 372 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:22.839 quarter, which is just unbelievable. But then suddenly, I mean there was 373 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.400 you know, it was twenty five to nine, and it was like, 374 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:27.880 okay, like you have to make something happen now. And I think the 375 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:33.000 moment that really, you know, changed the energy was the Brandon Dandridge pick 376 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:37.079 six offs at Claros. I think without that, you know, they would 377 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:38.680 not have done this at all. I mean, again, it's pretty impressive 378 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.200 that they did that, even with that late pick six. But I think 379 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:48.319 ultimately what really made, you know, or what caused Winnipeg to lose this 380 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:51.480 game rather than Ottawa winning, was their lack of a run game. I 381 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:53.519 think they were really you know, trying to well, they weren't forcing runs 382 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:57.000 because they threw a late pick six, but you know, their rushing attack 383 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.400 in this game was pretty much non existent Winnipeg's end. And I think when 384 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.720 you're trying to burn clock late and you don't have a run game, that's 385 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:07.720 usually a sign that you're going to give up some late points. And that's 386 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.119 exactly what happened. I mean, it was just so you know, one 387 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.279 of those games where you're sitting there and you're just constantly kind of pinching yourself 388 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.720 like this isn't happening. You know, this isn't happening. I love this 389 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:19.839 clip here. I loved this woman. Just so you know, I'm like, 390 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:22.960 you're beating ottawhile like it's over, James, I want to talk to 391 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.039 this final play and then again I want to get your thoughts on this overall. 392 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:29.400 But you know we had this tweet John Hodge here, right, you 393 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:30.880 know after all this, you know, how did hole on earth the Winnipeg's 394 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:34.160 defensive in the middle of the field open poor play, calling him poor tackling 395 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:37.720 and you know, lose checking in Winnipeg didn't know Crumb's tendencies, Like we 396 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.200 saw this exact same thing last week, Like, what do you mean we 397 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.279 didn't? We didn't. They didn't know his tendencies. Crumb had many, 398 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.000 many, many down the field runs. What did you make of just how 399 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.039 wide open he was on that final play? Well, I was watching Darren 400 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:56.359 Baumbing and the Bonfire Sports guys talk about this, and they were saying how 401 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:00.599 blitz heavy the Winnipeg defense was throughout this game. They just kept going blitz 402 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.799 after blitz after them, and eventually Dustin Crumb figured them out. And once 403 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.920 they once they figured out where they're blitzing from. Left a lot of vulnerable 404 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:11.880 areas, right, up the middle of that defense. It really confused me, 405 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.839 given how limited Attawa's passing game was, that Winnipeg didn't put a spy 406 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:19.839 in the middle of the defense use Big Hill as a spying linebacker there. 407 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:23.599 But I think instead they went blitz heavy and they kind of got burnt. 408 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:29.000 Wrote the end of this game was Darren I didn't watch? Was Darren justin 409 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:34.559 shambles? Actually? I think Zach was more beaten up about it. Actually, 410 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:37.279 I think it was like his birthday too, where it was. His 411 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.160 birthday was this week, and I think as well, I was probably a 412 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:42.880 devil. But you know, Darren's like, because he's a reporter, but 413 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.000 I mean Darren's like a little bit about you know, he go, that's 414 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.200 his famboy in there. A little bit I met he was in shambles. 415 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.920 Did you, Jason, do you look at this more as ye Winnipeg collapse 416 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:57.279 or autiwa winning the game? I think just because of the bizarre circumstances, 417 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:02.240 I think I take more from Winnipeg losing the game. I think that you 418 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:07.079 know, it's just a shark start. Contrast from how they were able to 419 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.200 close out that game last week against Calgary when they had that nice ten eleven 420 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.359 minute drive running the football. As Evan said, they could not get the 421 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.279 ground game going in this one, and I think that was just, you 422 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.079 know, a major factor why they couldn't close this one out. I think 423 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:23.880 on the second to last possession for Winnipeg, or the last one in regulation, 424 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:26.839 they actually got a first down that would have allowed them to kill a 425 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.720 lot more clock, but then it got called back due to a penalty, 426 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.160 and then they had to punt the ball away to Ottawa and that was that 427 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.519 was pretty much the rest is history. I had this shot here and we'll 428 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.359 talk more about this for the later but I said, do you believe in 429 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.160 miracles here at Red Blacks? Evan? What do you make here? We've 430 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.480 talked now Winnipeg having two bad losses, right, you know we had the 431 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.519 BC game and then this game, Evan, what do you make them within 432 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:51.640 the big Yeah? Well this, I mean this loss was just an embarrassment, 433 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:52.720 you know, for that team, given their experience, you know, 434 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.480 their depth, their reputation. I don't know how you lose a game like 435 00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.440 that. And this is kind of, you know, proving a point that 436 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:02.559 I've been thinking get about now for a while and it's that maybe BC really 437 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.240 is pulling ahead in the West. Again. You can't speak too early, 438 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.240 but I mean, this is just an unacceptable loss. I mean, if 439 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.480 you are losing games like this, I mean, you can't even really be 440 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.240 talking about playoffs in Great Cup quite yet. Again, even though this team 441 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.000 has been in the past three Great Cups and one two of them, I 442 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:22.599 just think, you know, it was a complete meltdown and this is definitely 443 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.920 the low point in the Bomber season. I would imagine this is probably the 444 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:27.680 lowest it gets for them. I don't think they'll let this happen again. 445 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:32.759 But yeah, I mean, you know, like the win, you're snatching 446 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.920 defeat from the jaws of victory. I love to say that, and I'll 447 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.759 say the same thing for Edmonton a bit later, even though that was a 448 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.759 bit of a different circumstance. But yeah, I mean, you just you 449 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.400 can't let things like that happen. And it really makes me wonder, you 450 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:49.440 know, what's going to happen down the line, because this just doesn't seem 451 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:53.559 normal for this team, Like there's been so many years of just pure dominance, 452 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:56.599 and again, they still are one of the more experienced teams. I'm 453 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:02.200 not saying they're collapsing or whatever, but it's a bit different now. I 454 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.279 mean, this is, you know, not something that I think any of 455 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:08.640 us expected. And I agree with Jason, it's more of Winnipeg losing the 456 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.720 game than Ottawa winning the game. But I will say, you know, 457 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.480 again, if we want to go back to the Ottawa side here for a 458 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:19.079 minute, that stadium got really loud and it was almost like a college atmosphere 459 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.640 at the end where you had, you know, the players and coaches kind 460 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.079 of storming the field and rightfully so, I just can't tell you how much 461 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:27.640 the CFL has needed that. I think. I mean, just the whole 462 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.640 weekend of games was great obviously. I mean, you know, we haven't 463 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.759 even gotten to the Toronto Montreal game yet, which might have been my favorite. 464 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.359 But this was just so needed. I feel like, just you know, 465 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.359 comeback victories. You know a lot of back and forth shootouts, especially 466 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.160 Ottawa getting away. I said, you know, this win was for Jeremiah 467 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.440 A Soli just given everything that's happened, and it was just so much fun 468 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.559 that there's a lot of people that are missing out. I think I'll leave 469 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.640 it at that. Yeah, Jason, I mean it was very dead in 470 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.799 there for that first bit when it was it wasn't very terrible first half of 471 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.079 the way. What do you make of this in Winnipeg? I was looking 472 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.319 here, you know, they got Elex next week at home, so maybe 473 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:07.799 you know, you were presuming that's to bounce back for Winnipeg, But what 474 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.559 do you what do you make here? Because it was just a weird day 475 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.680 for them. I still think that they'll bounce back, But I think the 476 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.559 key thing here is they already take pick up their second loss of the season 477 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.400 already in week six. I mean, how long did it take them to 478 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:23.920 pick up their second loss last season. I think it was all the way 479 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:29.240 probably into like week thirteen or something like that. So that's kind of concerning 480 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:33.559 for the Blue Bombers given that they've already lost to BC. If BC wins 481 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.519 next week, regardless of what happens with Winnipeg, BC's effectively two games up 482 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.559 on the Bombers because they lead the season series there. So I think that's 483 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.880 a very important game in terms of the standings. But I think overall Winnipeg 484 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.720 probably is still one of the best teams in the league going forward. I 485 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.480 think that you know, the collapse notwithstanding, I think they'll be okay looking 486 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.319 here, you know, I mean we talk in Dustin Crumb in the big 487 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.240 game winn or whatever. I mean twenty six or forty two interception. I 488 00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:03.079 mean he had a rough day, right, are we are? We? 489 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.559 Like? Are they Elex going to figure him out next week? Like this 490 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.400 elusive scrambling man or I mean what it? Because there's a lot more work 491 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:11.920 than he needs to be done here even though Ottawa won the game, right 492 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:17.240 Jason, Yeah, it'll be interesting because they're actually playing a Calgary next week, 493 00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:21.279 So I think that will be an interesting matchup because both teams coming up 494 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:25.039 big, emotional, last minute victory. So I think it's gonna be interesting 495 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:27.920 to see what team comes out flat. We often see that in those situations. 496 00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:32.880 So I think you'll be interested to see how Crumb moves the ball passing 497 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.240 wise, because I think at some point teams are gonna start to take away 498 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.200 his legs a little bit. I mean, he's such a dynamic runner. 499 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.279 You see him. He's basically what we want Cornelius to be in terms of 500 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:48.240 a runner, but he does it more effectively and knows exactly when to run. 501 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.880 So I think It's gonna be very interesting to see how he plays throughout 502 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.880 the weeks as teams get more film on him and interested to see how that 503 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.480 game goes next week against Calgary. It was an interesting note here and they 504 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.200 were talking about, you know, prew Cop with Winnipeg and like where he 505 00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:08.200 got resigned from the USFL and maybe if he had waited and he could have 506 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.920 been the Red Blacks quarterback or you know, kind of because he signed so 507 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.200 early and now all that opened up. I mean evans like sliding doors here. 508 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.359 I mean, pru CoP's taking you know, he's taking short yardage for 509 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.559 Winnipeg. Is there a world where he's a better option for Ottaware? Do 510 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.559 you think they're they're gonna be good with Dustin here? Yeah? I think 511 00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:26.519 Dustin Crumb was the right choice, you know. I mean, look, 512 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.880 pru CoP's familiar with Winnipeg and he's like a short yardage guy there. You 513 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.160 know, Dustin Crumb signed with Ottawa again like late last season. You know, 514 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.559 he's been with their program for a bit now, and I think after 515 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:40.480 you know, this win and the way he kind of put the team on 516 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:41.599 his back, I mean, how do you not root for that guy? 517 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.880 You know, how do you not say he's the best option. I mean, 518 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.599 that was just about the best thing you could have, and it finally 519 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.440 gives Ottawa fans, you know, that level of confidence. So yeah, 520 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.039 pru Cop I mean, I don't know, even in the USFL, he 521 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.680 wasn't an extremely impressive passer, not that he really had a big role, 522 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.480 but I think, you know, Winnipeg made the most sense for him, 523 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.599 just giving the familiarity, and you know, I think Ottawa already had their 524 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:04.960 eyes on again a couple of guys like they just brought in, you know, 525 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.039 Tyrrelle, Pigrome, Jake Dunaway, so you know, guys that they 526 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.960 were kind of familiar with. I mean, well, Pigrome was the guy 527 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.119 in Winnipeg who you know Prucock replaced, which is I guess kind of ironic 528 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.519 considering we're talking about this whole thing. But no, ultimately, I think 529 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.440 I think Dustin Crumb is the guy Alama was still had some really bad penalty 530 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.240 is they had that misconduct penalty that gave Winnipeg that touchdown early on, I 531 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.240 had there with like a bench penalty as well that Paul callback when they returns, 532 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.079 I don't know they still need to kind of clean that up. But 533 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.160 what do you make here now, Jason going in here with Bob Dace, 534 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.400 everything else and any other thoughts you wanted on this game. Yeah, it 535 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.480 certainly wasn't a perfect performance. There was also each team. I also had 536 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.279 a drop deep ball in this one. Ottawa had one just before the half 537 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.039 with a chance to make it a one score a game. I believe it 538 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.079 was savon scarboard that dropped the ball. It was a beautiful pass from Crumb 539 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.759 that really could have gotten going in the first half of that game. So 540 00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.559 I mean it wasn't a perfect game by any stretch. Again, like you 541 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.160 said, the penalties that extended drives for Winnipeg, I think there was one 542 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.079 near the goal line that led directly to the touchdown the next play. So 543 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.000 I mean some things that need to be cleaned up, Broadwalk. But in 544 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.559 terms of where they were at before this game, they were looking at one 545 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.519 and four right in the face, and you know they were able to get 546 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.400 the win here, so that's it's a good thing. Yeah, I hadn't 547 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:22.599 know. Yeah, I had a couple of new ads. I had a 548 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.680 CFL like a new hat ad. I don't know if you've seen Have you 549 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.759 seen this commercial with all the people standing in the stairwell and they had like 550 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.640 all the different hats and there we had a couple of different ads. No, 551 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:34.720 we had that, and then there was like a flyover. I don't 552 00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.519 know if we're trying to do some new some new marketing on there. I 553 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.920 did have a joke, you know, we talked about the CFL demos and 554 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.880 like the music and the country of music. The CFL Plus there in the 555 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.000 commercial breaks has like trap wrap instrumental music playing. So I don't know if 556 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.200 who's ever programming the CFO plus at least knows about their demographic sign here. 557 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.480 Pat's checking in prokop was a nice pickup. Wouldn't say great even any other 558 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.359 thoughts on this one. We'll move on to the shootout game. Not really, 559 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.200 I mean I just think Prue Cotmos's role at this point, like he's 560 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.160 not I mean, would you start him if Colaros went down? Sure? 561 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:12.319 Again, familiar with the system whatever, But yeah, I agree with Pat. 562 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.240 Nice pickup, not anything that you know, blows your socks off or 563 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.279 whatever. All right, let's get out of here. So Jason, we 564 00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.599 had this, this was the big you know, was it Toronto at Montreal? 565 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.720 Coming down? What did you make of this one? Because this was 566 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.039 like the game of the weekend and then the rest of the weekend happened, 567 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.880 you know what I mean. Yeah, it was relatively clean played game. 568 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:37.599 I think both quarterbacks played pretty well. I think Chad Kelly just continues his 569 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.880 trajection towards becoming a CFL star here in his first year as a starter. 570 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.599 He made a couple of amazing plays where he kind of broke out of the 571 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:50.400 pocket and rolled out to his left and found guys in the end zone. 572 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.640 So I think, you know, he's looked really good. That Toronto receivers 573 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:58.160 were really good in this one. I think Montreal looked good offensively at times 574 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.559 in this one as well. But just and Nike enough plays at the end, 575 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.599 and I think that if this game was you know, at the point 576 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.160 this game was played, I was like, oh, this is the best 577 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.920 game in the CFL so far this season. But then we had Saturday's games 578 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.599 that both kind of overshadowed them in my opinion. So I think these are 579 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.440 the three best games we've seen so far this season. All happened this week, 580 00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.839 So I think, yeah, this game was very entertaining. Yeah, 581 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.799 Matt mcnin if you're incorrectly reported in that Toronto as America's CFL team, I 582 00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.319 don't like that. Chad's looking good here twenty one to twenty five three one, 583 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:35.319 like big Star, I have a couple of highlights here I can pull 584 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.200 up. But Evan, what did you make of this? And then the 585 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.960 further ascension of Chack Kelly. Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll 586 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:43.480 talk about the game first and we'll get into Chad Kelly. I mean, 587 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.640 I think the most impressive part of this game. Firstly, I think Montreal 588 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.319 should have won. I mean, this was one of their more complete games, 589 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.440 but Toronto just kept having these answers, you know, when they had 590 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.200 an answer at the very end of the game, which ultimately ended up being 591 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:59.039 the game winner. But yeah, I mean, you know, Chad Kelly 592 00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:00.599 at this point, like, I don't know how you have any doubt in 593 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:05.599 the guy, Like I don't feel, you know, any doubt in saying 594 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.159 that he's, you know, a top quarterback in this league and we've talked 595 00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:10.320 about that, you know already, just saying like, um, you know 596 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.719 how poised he is and how confident he is, and I mean he you 597 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:19.360 know, really, I think is just so prepared and so I could say 598 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.039 so many good things about him, right and this game was you know, 599 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.400 this was really I mean it shows why you know, he deserves all this 600 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.800 praise and hype. I think there were some people who were questioning, oh, 601 00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:31.280 you know, why are we giving Chad Kelly so much praise when he's 602 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:34.679 only started you know, X many games. Like you have to remember, 603 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.719 Chad Kelly, you know, wasn't really talked about until he came in. 604 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:39.840 Like I've said it before, in that Great Cup last year, you know 605 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.920 when after MBT got hurt and you know, now here he is, you 606 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.199 know, becoming a superstar within a couple of games. So it's a pretty 607 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:49.960 quick ascension. But you know, I don't have any doubt and I have 608 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.599 full confidence and belief in him moving forward. Um. Just some other notes. 609 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.000 Um, David Unger who used to play for the tie Cats. Um, 610 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.519 he's having a pretty good uh game here. Um, he had two 611 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.360 touchdowns. I believe he had the last touchdown too. Um. You know 612 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.000 one of his two is the one that you know ultimately won it for Toronto. 613 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.079 I'm so good to see him get worked into the offense and then I 614 00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.719 mean demonte Coaxy, if you want to pull up that catch, that might 615 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.199 have been, you know, one of the better catches I've seen ever in 616 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.280 the CFL. I mean that was, you know, just textbook. I 617 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:20.039 think you've already been showing it. I just haven't been paying attention. But 618 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.199 yeah, great catch by by Coaxy for sure, and again just goes to 619 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.800 show. Yeah. I mean we can talk about Chad Kelly lot, but 620 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.800 his receivers have been pretty good too. I mean he's got Cam Phillips, 621 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.199 Davarre Daniels who had a nice game, um Coaxy, you know, et 622 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.960 cetera, et cetera. UM. And then on the defensive side for Toronto, 623 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.679 UM, you know, Winton McManus and Dwayne Hendricks were pretty impressive. 624 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:43.800 Dwyn Hendricks had a two sack game. UM, so you know, good 625 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.039 for them. UM. But yeah, ultimately, I mean I think this 626 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.280 was Toronto's offense that really one of them. It was just such a complete, 627 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.199 you know, offensive clinic. You would say, Jason, I'll be 628 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.960 curious that it happens the next season because I think that you know, this 629 00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.320 is good right now, and this is good for Toronto, and this is 630 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.280 good, Like I don't know if Chad Kelly is five six years CFL quarterback, 631 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.679 When did you make of this game? I think that I just think 632 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.880 that the story is Chad Kelly so far this season for the Toronto Argonauts, 633 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.400 I think that. I mean, that was really the only question I had 634 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.360 about this team going into the year. I thought that they retained so many 635 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.880 pieces of that great Cup team last year except for the quarterback. And I 636 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:25.920 think that Chad Kelly has even maybe even upgraded from mc cloud Bethel Thompson based 637 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.960 on what we've seen so far this season. I mean that offense is just 638 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.960 a well oiled machine. I think Ryan Dinwood does not get enough credit for 639 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.000 the game plans that he puts together. He's done a masterful job of bringing 640 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.719 Kelly along, making sure he doesn't make too many mistakes early on in his 641 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.559 CFL career as a starter. So I think that it's been really impressive to 642 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.239 see Toronto role so far this season. I think defensively, it wasn't their 643 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.840 best game on the whole, but I think that overall they played very well 644 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.039 this season, tops in the league, I think in takeaways and stuff like 645 00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.239 that. So I think that going forward, Toronto looks like the team to 646 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:05.079 beat in the CFL. Unfortunately for me as a Tiger Cats fan. I 647 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.280 had a highlight here that they were showing with that forward with Cody here kind 648 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.239 of you know, faking out, How do we, Jason, how are 649 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.760 we making of Cody here? Continuing in Montreal. I think he's done a 650 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:21.199 really good job in terms of, you know, showing that he is healthy 651 00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:22.800 this year. I think that it is just the biggest thing. I've said 652 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.840 that week after week on this show, But I think that the biggest thing 653 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.039 is that he can escape pressure. He wasn't able to do that as much 654 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.760 last week or so last year in Saskatchewan, and I think that is a 655 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:37.079 huge difference for him. You saw that one improvisation'll touchdown that the play looked 656 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.440 dead in the water, but he was able to spin out of it make 657 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:44.280 a play for the touchdown. So I've been pretty impressed by Fajardo so far 658 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.599 this season. Some of the receivers are really stepping up. I think a 659 00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.559 couple of the guys that they have injured will be back probably in the next 660 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.039 few weeks here. Hopefully Greg Ellingson is one of those guys because he is 661 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.440 very much a difference making CFL receiver unhealthy. But yeah, I think Fajardo's 662 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.760 looked pretty well, pretty good so far season. It looks like a good 663 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:02.760 crowd here too. I mean just from that shot. Like I said, 664 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:06.239 I didn't I always saw this game on the highlights, but I mean, 665 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.880 it looks pretty phenomenal. Evan. I had this stat here at the show 666 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.480 at the CFL News. You know how many you know, because they've had 667 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.760 you know, two bias here now going into six weeks, but you know, 668 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.679 thirty two points, forty three, forty five, thirty five this team 669 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.599 can score. Like how I just it feels I'm tired, you know, 670 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.280 I like these rouge games in the eleven to twelve or wherever, having some 671 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.320 of these shootouts. That certainly helps. When we talked about the excitement this 672 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.239 weekend and everything else, what do you make about that's Toronto just being able 673 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:34.559 to put points on the board. Yeah, well, I mean, like 674 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.039 I said before, you know, well round a team, you've got one 675 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.320 of the best quarterbacks in the CFL. You've got an up and coming running 676 00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:44.679 back and a j O Lett who also had a nice game against Montreal, 677 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.599 and then just a diverse receiving corps. I mean, you know, BC's 678 00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.159 been scoring a decent amount too, and I mean look at their receivers. 679 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.440 You know, the more guys you can spread the ball around too, I 680 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.960 think the more you know, points you're gonna be able to score because someone 681 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.840 is always going to step up if you're not just relying on a number one 682 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:00.639 receiver all the time, even though that's you know, probably a nice thing 683 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.920 to have. But yeah, I mean I'm not shocked that Toronto is scoring 684 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.960 this many points. I mean they probably could have scored more in this one, 685 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.760 just with the way it was going, you know, all that back 686 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:13.159 and forth. It just feels and I don't know if it's just because we're 687 00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.280 doing these recaps every week and my Twitter timeline right now, they does feel 688 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.119 like the CFLs A has a little something going Right now. I have an 689 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.480 article saved dry gotta look Steve Simmons posted. I'm talking like, you know, 690 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.000 ratings up this year and I've seen some controversy with that, so I 691 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.440 want to look into that, maybe reach out to Steve as well to come 692 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.159 on because he's from not before. But do you feel that, Jason, 693 00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.159 like, is there a little bit of a kind of a buzz going. 694 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.079 Maybe that's not normally here. Yeah, I think it's It's hard to tell 695 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.559 because I mean, I think that the TV ratings a lot of it depends 696 00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.480 on matchups, right. I think that certain teams definitely draw better on television, 697 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.199 and certain matchups definitely draw better on television. So it's good that we've 698 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.039 seen an upward trend, but I think we need to see it over the 699 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.639 course of the season and continue to build throughout that. So I think, 700 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:59.280 you know, I'm not taking too much away from it yet, especially now 701 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:04.679 that are including the RDS ratings as part of that that number so far this 702 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:09.840 season. So yeah, Pat once your thoughts Jason on the quarterback shortage here 703 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.760 and kind of running other options. We've talked to injuries and stuff, But 704 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:15.519 what do you make just overall kind of the state of the CFL with the 705 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.559 quarterbacks issue right now? Yeah, So this kind of reminds me of the 706 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:24.440 twenty nineteen season where I believe it was like seven of the nine starting quarterbacks 707 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.079 missed most of the season. I think, um, you know, that's 708 00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.880 when you had Cody Fajardo break onto the scene, Dave Evans broke onto the 709 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.480 scene with Hamilton's so you do see some good come out of it. Hopefully 710 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.360 you see guys like Dustin crum Mason, fine, take that mantle and run 711 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.159 with it. But I think at the end of the day, you're not 712 00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.480 likely to see that on a large scale. I think that you know going 713 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.880 forward that you need the guys to be experienced in the CFL. This is 714 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.559 really the only way you get experienced by having situations like this, but never 715 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:59.199 a good sign with like half the league is dealing with quarterback injuries that you 716 00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:00.960 know, I just I just think that the depth in the quarterback position is 717 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.400 pretty thin right now around the league, as you guys have been saying. 718 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.320 But yeah, those are just my thoughts on it. Evan, anything on 719 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:13.639 this to add, Yeah, I mean, you know, I put out 720 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:15.239 a tweet, you know, saying, you know, this is the time 721 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.639 where the CFL really needs to be pushing proper quarterback development. And what I 722 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.480 mean by that is maybe taking away from some of the short yardage guys, 723 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.440 because now in the CFL, it's like the short yardage quarterback is a completely 724 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.800 separate position. But you're so focused on those guys, you know, just 725 00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.000 rushing the ball for a couple of yards you're not actually working. I mean 726 00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.199 I'm not, you know, there for CFL practices obviously, but it kind 727 00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.320 of seems like these guys might not be as prepared to just start throwing the 728 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.239 ball when needed. So I think you look at, you know, what 729 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.480 the XFL is doing with like Jordan Palmer. I'm bringing a guy in like 730 00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.719 that to just sort of assist with the quarterbacks, you know, develop them, 731 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:52.000 you know, then maybe you see more guys, you know, either 732 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:53.840 come in or just the existing guys you know, perform better. I mean, 733 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:57.599 I will admit, you know, it is hard to find quarterbacks in 734 00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.519 any league. But you know, I don't think you can just blame all 735 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.559 this on oh, well, you know, the XFL and the us USFL 736 00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:06.119 exists now, you know, and they didn't used to. When the CFL 737 00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:07.840 is trying to find guys, hasn't made it harder. Yes, I'm not 738 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.440 trying to you know, steer away from that. But if you're gonna put 739 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.519 all the blame on that, I mean, come on, man, Like, 740 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.320 there's still plenty of options out there that you can work to, you 741 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.760 know, get guys up to speed and everything. So it's a tough issue, 742 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.800 you know, and to find guys that like right now we're just ready 743 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.119 to start. Um, it's very hard. I mean, you know, 744 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.280 Dustin Crum, like we weren't really sure about him, you know now clearly 745 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.840 you know he's got some traction. Mason Fine, I feel better about again 746 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.199 just because he's a year three guy. He's been in Saskatchewan system for a 747 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.239 while now, so I think he's ready to make the jump to a starter. 748 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.519 Um. Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll see what happens 749 00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.880 in Hamilton. I mean we you know, we're gonna talk about that here 750 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.599 in a minute. Um, we'll see what happens with Matthew Schiltz and h 751 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.440 Taylor Powell, the guy behind him. Um, but yeah, I mean 752 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.639 they're not definitely is a shortage. Um, you can't you can't deny that. 753 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.639 Yeah, I thought Naylor was it had a really good spot on the 754 00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.599 show this week and if you guys even it's you know, preview in week 755 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:01.159 six, but it's more just kind of nail or talking if you guys haven't 756 00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.800 seen that yet, but yeah, talking. I think that Evan, that's 757 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.039 what kind of spurred our conversation about that, where he's like, uh, 758 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.960 you don't. Yeah, you're you don't have that traditional quarterback too, where 759 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:15.119 you're you're working at where you used to have claros and spent years kind of 760 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.400 be in the backup and learning from that or you know, Michael Riley or 761 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:22.280 kind of whatever that other stuff. The other interesting thing with the Nailer thing 762 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.559 was he was talking about like shilts and like he takes a lot of hits 763 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.639 and then of course like we you know, we see shilts kind of do 764 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.800 all that. But if you guys haven't seen that, I will say, 765 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.679 Evan, I agree with the Palmer thing where they're like, hey, we're 766 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.840 wanting to bring in all these XL quarterbacks right like we're starting from scratch where 767 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:43.159 there is a little b d E with the CFL sometimes where it's like, 768 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.800 well you it takes four years to like you got to learn our stuff, 769 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.519 and you're like, yeah, maybe if you kind of like guided some of 770 00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.639 these guys along as opposed to like you know, trying to make training camp 771 00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:53.840 and living health for people and like, well, you know, this is 772 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.719 our sport and you need to figure out like I think maybe you could help 773 00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:00.320 develop that as well. At Jason, any other thoughts on the game or 774 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.400 this we'll get to the Hamilton stuff. Yeah. In terms of like, 775 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.400 I think it was a really good point that Dave made about the short yardage 776 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.599 specialists. I do think there's certain situations you look at the league, it's 777 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:14.440 like, if that starter went down, is the so and so backup actually 778 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:15.800 going to be the guy that's given the chance to start? Like I look 779 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.920 at Calgary, Jake Mary goes down, are they really going to start Tommy 780 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.760 Stevens Because I don't think he is very good as a passer from what I 781 00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:28.880 have seen in the preseason and other times that he's thrown the ball. So 782 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.840 I think that he is the definition of kind of the player that Dave is 783 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.960 talking about. So yeah, I definitely think it's a point. But I 784 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.119 think, you know, going forward, I think that you know, most 785 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.239 teams with the three quarterbacks dressing now that we didn't have a couple of years 786 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.840 ago when we came back from the canceled twenty twenty season, I think that's 787 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:49.559 huge for the development of quarterbacks in the league, getting more quarterbacks in the 788 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.519 pipeline and playing time. So I think at the end of the day, 789 00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.480 I think, you know, it's not as dire as people make out to 790 00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.519 be. I think that you know, it's more mostly sorry, it's mostly 791 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.599 just the quarterback injuries. I think that are the biggest concern at this point. 792 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.119 How do we keep these guys healthy? I don't know, Yeah, 793 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.400 I mean because even like Winnipeg, like prucop like I'm not you know that 794 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.400 that is not a suitable replacement of his at Claris at this point coming to 795 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.880 the to the last game here and this was I've got Dave Campbell's schedule to 796 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.159 come on this week, and you know, Alex is going to be back 797 00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:22.239 on the road. He's going to be on the road to Winnipeg. We're 798 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:27.719 going the schedule head dark days here in Edmonton, I think it was far 799 00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.960 Han, it was already reporting yesterday tail or Cornelius taking h you know, 800 00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:37.119 first first whatever snaps again, you know, starting snaps, h Evan, 801 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.079 what is the definition of insanity here? Like? What are we doing in 802 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.719 Edmonton? Yeah? I mean I can only talk about it so much, 803 00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.119 right, I think every week it's like, you know, what happened to 804 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.559 Trey Forward? You know what's going on? Like how often you know, 805 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.119 can we put Cornelius in? And you know, yeah, I mean Cornelius 806 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.280 again kind of came back to earth in this game. I think last week 807 00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:59.960 he had a decent performance again, nothing that was amazing, but again final 808 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:01.719 he looked like, you know, maybe he could hold the starting position. 809 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.559 Unfortunately that went away again this week. And yeah, I mean that play 810 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:10.079 that you're showing right there kind of explains explains why, you know, just 811 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:15.519 to you know, this game I really do think was winnable for Edmonton, 812 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.159 and there was so much talk, you know, going in this week about 813 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.079 Edmonton's finally gonna do it, They're finally gonna break the streak, They're gonna 814 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.000 win at home. It's gonna be a big deal. And it didn't happen. 815 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.840 I mean in the second quarter. I think it was end of the 816 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:29.639 second quarter, beginning of the third. That's when you can kind of see 817 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:35.159 the momentum shift. And yeah, I mean after that, Hamilton just completely 818 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.159 took over and it was the James Butler Show. From there, you had 819 00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:43.639 Taylor Powell coming in from Matthew Schultz and throwing a touchdown on his first pass 820 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.519 as a pro quarterback, which I love hearing things like that. I was 821 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:50.960 so excited when that happened because I was watching I watched that full game, 822 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.960 but yeah, I mean just kind of a disaster for Edmonton. I mean, 823 00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.519 again, how many times can you use that word? But it's just 824 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:02.039 so at this point it's almost expected. Unfortunately, It's just you know, 825 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:07.039 this team constantly shoots himself in the foot, and you know, how many 826 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:08.760 times is this going to happen before you know changes are made. I know 827 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:13.079 there was an interview that went up with the Victor Quee and he kind of 828 00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.559 he was very honest, you know, talking about the situation with Chris Jones 829 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.079 and what the contract looks like. You know, how do you move on 830 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.000 from that in the event that you keep losing. But unfortunately, you know, 831 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.440 I think we can all agree and you know, maybe we talked about 832 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:29.000 this week or last week, maybe we didn't, but either way, you 833 00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:32.119 know, this game was kind of like the last one that just looked like 834 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:35.880 it was in Edmonton's reach because if you look at the schedule after this, 835 00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:37.440 I mean, I think Mike was saying they've got a clear path to O 836 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.599 and nine at this point, which is I mean, hell, that's halfway 837 00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.719 through the season without a win, and I don't know. I mean, 838 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.760 maybe someone can tell me that has a bit more you know, history with 839 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.440 him, but I don't remember the last time that happened where a team started 840 00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.480 oh and nine. I don't want to be I did not want BC to 841 00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.920 be the team that gives out Like That's kind of my fear at this point 842 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.159 is like, you know, how is that gonna come? Jesuson what do 843 00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.639 you make of this? I mean, obviously, as a tie Cats fan, 844 00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:07.679 you're gonna you know, you're gonna take it to win here, but 845 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:13.159 this was a this was a babblock Fredmonton. Yeah, I mean, I'm 846 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.360 with Evan, I'm like, what else can you even say? At this 847 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.159 point, I'm actually gonna make a video right behind me here is all they're 848 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.119 losing, all the losses in the losing streak, so all twenty of them 849 00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.880 are up there. I'm gonna go over how it started and how um you 850 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.000 know, when it made might end. But uh yeah, going forward, 851 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.880 I just I don't know what they do. I feel like they've really confused 852 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.760 everybody with how they've handled the quarterback position. I mean, I don't know 853 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.119 how much better, um, you know Jared Daggy would do at this point, 854 00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.840 Like I said, I would start tray forward. I mean, even 855 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.880 if they lose more games, who cares because at least he's a guy that 856 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.320 probably will bring some excitement to your fan base. At this point, I 857 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.159 think that, you know, going forward. Um, you know, I 858 00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:58.480 don't really think there's a bright spot on this team. I mean maybe, 859 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.000 like I think Stephen Dunbar a pretty good game against his former team in this 860 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:05.760 one. Kevin Brown running backs pretty good player as well. But I think, 861 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:07.559 you know, I'm going forward. I just don't think that this is 862 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:13.039 a very cohesive team at all. And it's sad because we saw Ottawa get 863 00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.719 off the snide a couple of times with a couple of wins at home, 864 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.559 but Edmonton still stuck at all and six everybody else in the league at least 865 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.920 has two wins. Now, Yeah, I you know, I tweeted out 866 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.559 because if we were out, and I came back and ended up watching this 867 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:29.239 one as well kind of on demand, and uh, you know, I 868 00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.119 I love Cray Taylor, Cornelia Year, you know, love the man for 869 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:36.199 a career CFL wins. I thought Dustin Nielsen had had a night. I 870 00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:37.320 was trying to get him back on the show he was on before. I 871 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.679 don't know, if he lives in his DMS anymore. But um, you 872 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.119 know, Dustin was his Why don't he? I mean, I really really 873 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.679 enjoy that. I think that that's great, and it also helps. It 874 00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.639 helps if I'm trying to kind of fast forward just a little bit to kind 875 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.159 of catch up on the on the games here, and it's like I just 876 00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.119 got to wait for Dustin kind of disheart screaming about something. I know it's 877 00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.559 a big take. Yeah, I don't know. I I had tweeted that 878 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.039 yesterday. I'm gonna say, you know, Evan and I are starting that 879 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:06.239 free trade forward. I want him off the alex if they're not going to 880 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.199 use him, but to get him on a team that's going to take advantage 881 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:14.079 of him. Um, Evan here at Hamilton. You know, Schiltz went 882 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.159 down right, you were talking with him. He should be fine. They're 883 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:20.440 getting tests. Like, what's the latest on Schiltz. Yeah, honestly, 884 00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:22.400 I don't know. Yeah, I mean I send him a text and you 885 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.760 know, and send him best wishes and everything. At the time, he 886 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.599 didn't know what his injury was, and I'm sure he probably knows now. 887 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.000 I would expect it to come out, you know, probably today, soon 888 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:36.880 sometime. Yeah, I mean scary moment. And again, how many quarterback 889 00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:38.920 injuries can you have? It's it's really starting to look like, you know, 890 00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:42.400 some of these teams again, I mean, we just had this whole 891 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.519 conversation before about quarterback development and depth and things like that, but teams are 892 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.599 really starting you know, look, it's looking like they're gonna need to access 893 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.760 that more. And you know, fortunately Taylor Powell looked good in limited action. 894 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.239 A lot of the backups I think this week, you know, again, 895 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.639 Taylor Powell, Mason fine, like they all kind of stepped up, 896 00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:01.199 you know, in limited action. Keep in mind, right, not the 897 00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:05.360 full game, and did all right. Like Taylor Powell. You know, 898 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.239 his first pro pass was a touchdown, but he only completed two passes in 899 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:13.599 the entire game. So still a lot to figure out there. But yeah, 900 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.400 just from Hamilton's perspective as a whole, again, I like I said, 901 00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.280 Taylor Powell looked good and limited action. We'll see what happened to Schiltz. 902 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.480 I think even if Schiltz hasn't been winning games for Hamilton's a ton, 903 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.920 I mean, obviously they won this one. You know, he was in 904 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:30.800 for a good chunk of the game. I think, you know, he's 905 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:35.199 still showed enough to where you can bring up the question, you know, 906 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.239 maybe you keep him as the starter even when bow Levi is healthy, because 907 00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:42.119 in my opinion, he has done enough to hold that job again even if 908 00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.239 the team isn't winning all the time. But that's kind of a separate discussion. 909 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.480 I think the real talking point here is m James Butler. He kind 910 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.440 of had his uh, I guess you'd say, breakout game. I mean 911 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.800 there was a lot of question, you know, the commentators on TSM brought 912 00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.079 this up, you know, about how such a good year in BC and 913 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:01.679 then he came over to Hamilton and it's been a bit of a slow start. 914 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.960 But this time, I mean, this was about the best game you 915 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.800 could have asked for from him. And I know James pretty well. He 916 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.320 was one of the first people like I ever interviewed back in the day, 917 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:13.920 like three years ago, before he even came to CFL. Really, so 918 00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:16.480 yeah, you know, I have full belief that he can keep doing this 919 00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:22.079 and definitely needed I think for that offense, especially given how the receiving corps 920 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.119 has been. But another bright spot on the team this time around was a 921 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:30.280 target McAllister. I know we talked about him last week. He's someone that's 922 00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.480 kind of blossoming into a larger role, you know, someone that I think 923 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.440 a lot of teams are starting to look out for, both on offense and 924 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.519 special teams, you know, as a returner. So good stuff from him, 925 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:43.159 and I hope he keeps that up. And yeah, I think that's 926 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.519 about it. On Hamilton's side. I mean again, this was just one 927 00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.400 where you know, kind of a slow back and forth at the beginning, 928 00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.440 but you know, a couple plays that they took advantage of, you know, 929 00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.719 mistakes on Emmonton's end, they capitalized and pulled away pretty quickly in the 930 00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:59.119 second half. Yeah. I had a tweet here Shield's not practicing today that 931 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.960 we'll get after the after practice. Jason, how are you feeling here in 932 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:07.079 tie Cats? What's your welfare check? I just hope they don't rush one 933 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.320 of these quarterbacks back. I feel like, if you have to start Powell 934 00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.760 for a game or two, do it, because you can't get into situation 935 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.159 where you rush a guy back like Bo maybe comes off the six game injured 936 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.800 list and plays this week, and if he's not one hundred percent healthy and 937 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.559 re injurs and he's out for the season. I think that would be an 938 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:29.360 even worse outcome, So I'm really afraid of that happening. But I think, 939 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.639 yeah, I like what I saw from Powell, very limited sample size, 940 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:35.679 But yeah, about Schiltz, I agree with Evan. I think I 941 00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:37.639 was ready to say that this is his team going forward. I think he 942 00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:42.840 played well for three weeks in a row, and I think that, unfortunately, 943 00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:45.480 this is the story with his career. He gets a few starts here 944 00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:49.039 and there, and then he gets injured, and I think that's the unfortunate 945 00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:51.400 fact. He can't be surprised by it. I don't think the tie Cats 946 00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:55.079 are surprised that he got injured, just being kind of a thinner bodied quarterback 947 00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:59.679 there. But yeah, just hopefully one of these two guys, bow or 948 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:04.960 Shill is ready to go for some point in the near future, because it's 949 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.119 gonna be very hard to win with a third string quarterback and Taylor Powell. 950 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:12.519 I mean, it'll be interesting to see Hamilton autable match between Powell and Dustin 951 00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.800 Crumb. I believe that's who the tie Cats play after the Elks. But 952 00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:19.800 yeah, I'll be interesting to see how they navigate this quarterback room going forward, 953 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.800 and yeah, again, Tyrick McCallister has played really well for this team. 954 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.079 I think he's the exact player that this team has needed. Has bought 955 00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:29.400 a lot of speed to this offense. They don't have a lot of that 956 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.119 outside of Tim White, So I think McCallister is going to get even more 957 00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:37.599 work in the offense going forward. He had another you know, dynamic kick 958 00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:39.880 return in this one, and I believe it was called back, probably one 959 00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:43.280 of the best you'll see all season, but unfortunately, like I said, 960 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:45.840 called back. But yeah, the Tiecats played pretty well in this one. 961 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.719 It's good to get a couple of wins on the board, but I don't 962 00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.239 take too much from it because it was the Elks. Yeah, I mean 963 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:57.320 to me and Evan talked and them getting Butler back into it, and this 964 00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.159 looks like a more normal stat line here. You know, ten of seventeen, 965 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:04.159 you know they had Crumb was like twenty six to forty two or something. 966 00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:06.320 I mean, like you need to give these guys, like you can't 967 00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.960 expect Crumb to throw that many times to play. Yeah, let's let's get 968 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:13.079 the Butler moving here. They're talking that you know, they came off to 969 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:14.960 buy a couple of weeks ago, and now we're trying to you know, 970 00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.119 we're getting away maybe from the old June Jones style of kind of all this 971 00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:21.719 stuff. The other thing I just whipped Cornelius and elks like, I just 972 00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.400 don't know how you can how you can be bench here like consecutive weeks like 973 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:28.400 this and continue to play. You know, Taylor isn't pulled like for injury 974 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.119 here and pulled you know Daygi's in and like, you know, the announced 975 00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:35.000 pers are like, well, if if Dagi succeeds you, he immediately almost 976 00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.760 tore an interception coming in. I had here as well, Yeah, if 977 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:43.920 Dagi succeeds, he immediately takes a sack. We had the I had the 978 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.320 house called here by McAllister called back for the penalty flag. And then I 979 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:52.079 guess my last thing was there's all this made of the Chris Jones contract, 980 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.840 and it's been reported it's like four consecutive years or it's you know, one 981 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:59.280 contract over four years. I mean, Jason, it's so weird how ham 982 00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:00.880 strung. I saw you even like Gary Ster and trying to talk about like 983 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:05.400 well maybe like the teams could buy out this and we could, they could 984 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.239 pay off the penalty over years, like trying to figure out how to get 985 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.400 out of this contract with Chris Jones. It's really weird. Yeah, the 986 00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:15.760 whole football operations cap is just a real hinderance to that team right now. 987 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.639 It's limited the amount of coaches that they can have on staff, which is 988 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.360 obviously a huge disadvantage. I think that the tie Cats, I believe, 989 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:28.119 have like the biggest staff in the league versus what the Elks are throwing out 990 00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.760 there. I think Jones does the defensive coordinating duties obviously head coach and GM 991 00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:35.880 as well. So that's a lot of responsibility, a lot of hours to 992 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:39.639 be asking to put in four a guy that's with three very important positions. 993 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:44.199 So I mean, I think that has definitely been a factor that's contributed to 994 00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:47.639 their demise here. And I think that in terms of the quarterback position, 995 00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:51.440 like I said, I don't know what they do. I would start Trey 996 00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:55.719 forward. But yeah, you know, my thoughts on that evant anything else 997 00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:58.920 on this game here. I have my little ramp before we get out of 998 00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:02.280 here. Yeah, I mean start Trey four and start the chant. That's 999 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:06.559 I think that's what I'm going to leave it on. What do you got 1000 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.559 here, Jason? You've got Argos coming in? How are you feeling here? 1001 00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:15.199 Argos at home? I think it depends on the quarterback position. I 1002 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.000 think that the Tiecats have beaten the Argos in the past couple of years, 1003 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.880 a couple of times at home. I mean I did a video a couple 1004 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.639 of weeks ago about how the Argos have generally dominated the Tiecats over the past 1005 00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:29.920 three four years here. But in general they usually when they win, it's 1006 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.599 usually at home against the Argos, so I wouldn't be too surprised. Schiltz 1007 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:37.320 was actually the only quarterback to beat the Argos last season, so if he's 1008 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.039 able to go, that would be huge. But again, don't want to 1009 00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:45.159 rush anybody back from the injuries. Not overly concerned about one game, especially 1010 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:49.280 in terms of the greater context of the CFL. But it's gonna be interesting 1011 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.079 now with the playoff race kind of tightening up every team. At two and 1012 00:57:52.159 --> 00:58:00.400 three, Ottawa picking up that unexpected victory Montreal. I'll connection there you go, 1013 00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:06.280 Jason, are you back? Hear me? Yeah? So yeah, 1014 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.639 I'm not too overly concerned about Friday's game. I think that, um, 1015 00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.079 you know the Argos will be favorites obviously, but I think the tie Cats 1016 00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:16.440 probably give them a game, and it's gonna probably come down to whether or 1017 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:20.960 not one of those quarterbacks is healthy for them. Well here you go, 1018 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:22.440 Well this is good, this is fun. I have my little rant here, 1019 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.159 we'll get it. We have our little football talk. Evan likes knowing 1020 00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:29.039 that the feuds of the Mark Cash here, we've had the Marshall Ferguson's and 1021 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:30.960 they could you done all this? This was just bizarre to me. Like 1022 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:34.840 I said, I'm sitting at We're going to the mirror a game, so 1023 00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.400 everything, and I pull up CFL plus, I pull up the you know, 1024 00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.599 the game, and I'm watching. I just tweet out like you know 1025 00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:43.719 this, can you you know, do you believe in miracles here or whatever? 1026 00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:45.599 We're getting? You know, tweet out going to the mirror again. 1027 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:52.239 And the next day I wake up and the CFL has tweeted out this like 1028 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.000 repurpose this year and again this is like I don't care. This is like 1029 00:58:55.519 --> 00:59:00.239 you know, TSM broadcast whatever, like do everyone. But like they took 1030 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:05.159 the screenshot that I had cropped like off of my phone and they tweeted this 1031 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.239 out and you know, good night, and it's I mean, it's it's 1032 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.320 a screen shot, right, And I said, you know what is going 1033 00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:13.599 on here? And I DM them, I'm like, hey, like you 1034 00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.519 know what is this year? They're like, oh, someone, because this 1035 00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.000 is a common to the point is this is a common trend I've heard like 1036 00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.679 CFL and they don't like to give content creators credit or we're shutting down on 1037 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.960 YouTube channels and kids can't show you know, the recaps all this stuff. 1038 00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:29.480 And I said, like, I you know, I put it like what 1039 00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:31.440 I just given confusing. Oh no, like we didn't know that was your 1040 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:36.599 someone else sent that to us, and I'm like, so then someone else 1041 00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:38.320 said it you and you didn't get like what is happening here? And so 1042 00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:40.559 we kind of went back and forth, and I just said, like I 1043 00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.360 don't understand this, like lack of like where the CFL. We don't want 1044 00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.599 like we're all in this together, but like we don't want to acknowledge. 1045 00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:52.920 People were like, I've never had any interactions with the CFL Twitter account, 1046 00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:54.519 Like I've been covering this league for three years. We're on here every week, 1047 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:58.039 I know, Jason. Did that just seem like like if I am 1048 00:59:58.039 --> 00:59:59.840 I out on left field here, I just woke up. I was so 1049 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:05.559 surprise. That's just bizarre that they use the exact same screenshot that they that 1050 01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.960 you took. But uh yeah, it's kind of weird to me. Like, 1051 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:13.239 I don't I don't know why the CFL doesn't embrace the people that are 1052 01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:16.320 giving them free promotion really for the most part, and I think nobody's really 1053 01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.480 making too much money off of this. It's really just doing it out of 1054 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.559 the goodness of their heart, and the league candidate embrace the people that are 1055 01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.199 really trying to help row the league going forward. So uh yeah, that's 1056 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.039 the issue I take for that. I think I totally understand your point, 1057 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:31.800 Evan. I want I know Evan is not gonna have a pen. THEYS 1058 01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:36.119 told me, they said, what was the word. They said, um, 1059 01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:37.480 well, I have the because I have I have the DM. They 1060 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:45.760 said, we are we're reimagining our content creators strategy. More to come, 1061 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.199 we hear you. So that's what they told me. So I don't know 1062 01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.199 if that means like we're going to start the embracing like Jason said that. 1063 01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:54.119 I just I don't know. I don't not understand that I just I woke 1064 01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:59.199 up a very bizarre So I officially we are at war with the at CFL 1065 01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:00.880 Twitter account. Anything else from you. You don't need to comment on this 1066 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:04.760 if you don't want to anythink else from you before we get out. Oh 1067 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.000 no, I don't. I don't think so. But it's great to hear 1068 01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.519 about all your feuds as usual. I love that. Well, you can't 1069 01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:14.039 we can't rest. We can have no rest in our hard done here. 1070 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:15.159 But no, I mean, Jason, like this is you know, I 1071 01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:20.280 am not the best, most consistent or smartest thing ever. Like I will 1072 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.719 be the loudest when there's things that I feel passionate about, and I do 1073 01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:25.599 feel passionate about, you know, leagues like the XFL and the USFL and 1074 01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:29.880 the CFL, like we are not the NFL, Like we need to embrace 1075 01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.039 people like you said, like we're spending you every week, and I'm like, 1076 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:36.480 I'm sitting there yesterday Sunday morning, I'm rewatching the game. I'm taking 1077 01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:38.000 notes on my phone as I'm running on the treadmill here. If you do 1078 01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:42.360 you want the CFL on Twitter, so, like you know, this is 1079 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:44.800 downe for the life, and I would just appreciate a little bit of like 1080 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:46.760 hey, like we appreciate a good job, like we appreciate that. Like 1081 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:50.199 even the XFL does that, like, hey, we appreciate you, like 1082 01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.440 thank you. So I don't know anyway, that's it for me. Evan, 1083 01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.480 you're working on anything coming out or Jason, anything you want to play 1084 01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:00.599 before we get out? Ah, not too much. I'm doing that emython 1085 01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.880 Elks Losing Street video. As you'll see it probably be out either tomorrow or 1086 01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:08.360 later today, so you should have checked that out on my channel. Have 1087 01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.840 anything else, I've probably got a couple of XFL related articles coming up, 1088 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.559 but nothing too nothing too serious or extreme. Well good, Well, this 1089 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.000 is I'm working the rest of the week. I think I have a good 1090 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.239 show put together. I think Campbell's coming on, and then we got Ben 1091 01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:28.840 Grant coming on to talk argos, and then I'm working on a special. 1092 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:30.119 I don't know if it's gonna work out, trying to get a cool XFL 1093 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:32.880 in interview. We'll see if that works out. If you missed our chat 1094 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:36.880 with Rust Giulio, I thought that was really great last week. He's saying 1095 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:39.800 direct your player administration over at the XFL, talking to all their stuff, 1096 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:44.320 so good. Episode Busy Summer didn't do as well as I would have liked, 1097 01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.239 so if you missed that one, got check that out. We'll see 1098 01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:50.880 you guys next time. Appreciate everyone, and we'll get out of here. 1099 01:02:50.920 --> 01:03:01.039 Thanks in nine nights