I would like to welcome the brand new member of Cherry's Rock and Roll Army,
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we go. It is that time again, Happy Tuesday. It is Matt
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two thousand twenty three. So nice to have you all with me.
By the way, that song that I opened with that is Don't let the
Music Stop. That is Mike Laughlin and acoustic performance of that that he did
that I was therefore recording actually many many years ago. But Mike is going
to be on the show with us Thursday. He's been on before and I've
done a lot of different shows with him over the years, so but really
looking forward to seeing him on Thursday. I think he's going to spend the
full two hours with us, and he's gonna bring his guitar and in the
second hour he's gonna play live for us in studio. Really looking forward to
that. But that'll be great. But I was thinking I should pull something
out of his and I love that song that is, don't let the Music
Stop. I don't remember if when he did that, only you know what.
I think that was from his band. He's been in some different bands.
He was in a band called Glorious Noise, and I think at the
time that he wrote that song. I think that's the band that he was
in. But that's that's just him by himself, him and his acoustic guitar,
and I just love that song so much, so I thought it'd be
cool to open with that because Michael be here Thursday, and I think later
in the show I might play something from the band Able Blood, because they
will be our musical guest on Friday. Today, we have no musical guest,
but we have plenty to talk about and tomorrow on the show. Of
course, on Wednesdays, I'm joined by Eric Pilcher My favorite conservative. But
tomorrow will be a little bit different. He'll actually be joining us in the
second hour instead of the first because there's another obligation. But we're clear for
guests tomorrow as well. So I figured out, you know, if he
I told him, you know, if you want to come on, if
you want to come on in the second hour, that is okay with me.
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Peeps. Ryan LeMay, speaking of very talented musicians, joins us in
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let him know I was playing. I didn't tell Mike I was going to
play one of his songs today. I was just it was a spontaneous decision,
but that's one of my favorites of his. Mike is a great songwriter.
He's written a lot of great stuff, but I do love that song.
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Steve. And today is Tuesday, which means tonight is the replay, So
if you missed it Friday night, you can get the replay tonight at seven
pm right here on WMNHU and Paul comments, Pony Soldier, cool name for
a band. Yeah, that's that clip that I played, and I put
the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme music behind it to make it funny, because that
makes it seem less frightening. We're gonna get into that today. We're gonna
have a little We're gonna have another little family meeting and have a little family
meeting on the show about about about Grandpa again again, we have to do
this. B Pinard joins us sense is good afternoon, Hello, welcome.
Uh let's see let me give you the number again six zho three two five
zero six zero seven if you'd like to call in six O three two five
six o seven. Yeah, we do have to. Uh. The audio
that I played, of course, that was from President Biden's trip. He's
been traveling. He's a globe trotter, you know, as he himself mentioned
around the world in five days or whatever the reference was he he made during
that press conference. But yeah, that was he told the story about It's
from a John Wayne movie. Oh, hello to Mike from Queen City Cabinetry.
He has joined us in the etch at room, one of our great
sponsors here at WM and and one of our co hosts on Retrospective Radio.
So, uh, yes, Biden was in Vietnam. He traveled for the
G twenty, went to Vietnam. He uh, he's he's had a lot
of meetings, a lot of traveling, and you know, he's uh going
to be eighty one in November. So I'm sure it's exhausting to him.
I'm sure it wears on him. But uh, look, we've we've got
to We're gonna have this conversation again because uh, and I I take no
joy in this, my friends, I really don't. I mean I try
to be funny about it. I try to make it a little bit funny
so we can all have ourselves a little bit of a laugh so we don't
get depressed. But it's not. I mean, that's uh, that's only
part of the audio that you know. Jenny made the comment in the chat
room. It's so cringe. It is. It is. And I again,
I take no joy in it. You know, what is something that
I haven't heard anyone else say. But I'll express this now before we get
deeper into the subject, is a part of what is frustrating about it is
I actually like the policy. The policy itself of you know, strengthening our
diplomatic ties are economic ties with China's neighbors. I think is a very good
idea, and I think the President, I will say, I think it's
done a good job with that, just says I think he's done a good
job with strengthening NATO in the face of Russia's invasion in Ukraine and so forth.
But I can't help but wonder if it ultimately does more harm than good
when we see what we saw at that press conference and the way it ended
too. I have the audio of that pulled up. The way the whole
thing ended got really weird, really weird if you haven't seen it. But
our friend Shannon is on the line. High Shannon. I thought Shannon was
on the line. Okay, never mind. But here's the thing. All
right, We're gonna have a family meeting. Gather around. Kids, Come
over here, Junior. We gotta talk. We gotta talk about Grandpa.
We gotta do this again. I'm so sorry, but somebody's got to take
the keys. Somebody has to take the car keys away from him. That's
it. I mean, it's just it's got to be done. Nobody wants
to do it. It's it's an uncomfortable conversation to have to have. He
means, well, uh, we don't want to upset him, but we
can't have this anymore. So so so there it is. Kids, I'm
the thing of me. I'm being dad and I'm talking to the kids about
what we're gonna have to do. And little Junior, I'm afraid you're gonna
have to be the one to have to talk with him. Why do I
have to do it? Dad? Well, I don't know. I guess
because you have a high voice. It'll be funny. If you do it
with your high voice, it'll make him laugh, and then he can't get
upset. Right. Actually, that is a good idea, right, If
you have to have an uncomfortable conversation with somebody and you don't want to upset
them, just talk to them in a in a in a comically high voice,
and then how can they get upset? Right, they can't get upset
if you make them laugh. I mean that would that would work for other
things too, right, wouldn't it? In theory, like, uh,
you know, like, uh, hi, missus Jones, this is uh
Sam, the private detective you hired to follow your husband. Oh hi,
Sam, why are you talking in such a high voice. Oh, I'm
speaking to you in a comically high voice because I have some very bad news
about what I found about your husband. But I don't want to upset you
because I want to make sure you pay my fee. You know, I
don't know, maybe that maybe that isn't such a good idea, but no,
listen, uh, Like I said, I like the I like the
policy. I like the strategy I do, strengthening our our ties with those
in China's neighborhood. I think it's great. It's a great idea. But
when when I see here, here's the thing though, so and I watched
the whole thing. I'm gonna play a little bit more audio from it in
a second. But one of the things that Biden was asked, uh,
you know, obviously Biden was asked about China, spoke about China, and
he was very sort of, you know, almost conciliatory, you know,
saying, well, we're not you know, we don't want to contain China.
We're not trying to hurt China. Uh, we just want China to
deal with us squarely, or however he put it. He probably said something
folksy like he does. I don't know, I don't even remember it,
but I'm just thinking. So again, I like the policy of saying we're
going to strengthen our diplomatic and economic ties with China's neighbors, like Vietnam,
Like having the leaders of South Korea and Japan recently come to come to Washington.
I thought that was great. That's another great example of this. So
the strategy is very sound. And I do commend him for that. I
do, but I can't help but wonder when I see him at this press
conference. See, here's the thing in order for all of this to work.
And I'm gonna say something here that's this is the kind of thing you
would normally hear someone more sort of right wing say. And I'm not a
right wing guy, as you know, but but I'm gonna say this because
this is just at this point in my life, this is just how I
feel about it. In order for all of this to work, so say,
for example, a specific example, in order for us to continue to
be able to prevent and discourage, I should say, not prevent, but
discouraged China from moving on Taiwan. America has to be feared. Now,
there was a point, there was a time when I wouldn't have said something
like that because it almost sounds warmongerish, right, But it's just, you
know, I think I take a little bit of a different view of it
as I get older, and I realize that, no, it's not enough.
If we want to maintain our status as the world's last remaining superpower,
we need to be feared. It's not just enough to be respected. We
need to be feared. And I kind of had that revelation when I'm watching
this press conference and I'm watching President Biden, and I'm thinking, there is
no way in hell Xi Jingping or Kim Jung un, or any of these
guys whatever fear that. Man. Don't get me wrong again, I'm fine
with him saying we're not trying to hurt China, We're not even necessarily trying
to contain China. You can say all of that, because that's basically true.
It's not like we're looking to start a war with China. Okay,
fine, but you also have to follow that up with but we're going to
be very very firm about X Y and Z. X might be can't move
on Taiwan. Why might be you have to stop stealing American intellectual property,
and Z might be you have to get the hell away from Russia. Not
geographically, of course, I'm not saying China has to move further away from
Russia. I'm just saying, you know, don't be so cozy with Putin,
you know, or whatever it is. You know, we're going to
insist on these things, so we're not trying to hurt China. In fact,
biden't even went a little bit further and said when China does well,
it's better for all of us economically. And I wouldn't have said that that.
I wouldn't have said that. Now, he's not technically wrong in the
sense that our economies are so intertwined in terms of trade and other things,
so that's not necessarily wrong. Because if China's economy, which is already struggling,
if it goes even more into the tank than it is, that that
could actually harm all of us. So he's not wrong. But I wouldn't
have said that, or I wouldn't have said it that way. But it
was a little it was a little too conciliatory for me. Again. It
was like that, like you know, Grandpa saying, you know, I
don't I don't want to hurt you. I'm just I'm trying to. I'm
just I'm telling you that I'm doing this for your own good. You know.
Uh uh. It's not good. It's just not good. The way
that it ended, by the way, was really here. I'll play this
clip if you haven't heard it to me. If you don't have a game
plan, he may have a game plan. He just hasn't shar hang on,
guys, I'm sorry. I think I think I missed the very beginning
of that, or maybe it maybe the clip just starts that way. Oh,
it just starts that way. Okay. If you don't have a game
plan, he may have a game plan, he just hasn't shared it with
me. By the way, he's talking about Jing Ping in that part.
But I tell you what, I don't know about you. But I'm going
to go to bed. We talked about we talked about at the conference overall.
We talked about stability. We talked about making sure that the third world,
the excuse me, third world, the the the U, the Southern
Hemisphere had access to change. It had access. It wasn't confrontation at all.
Thank thank you everybody. This sends account press conference. Thanks everyone,
thank you. Just to be clear, this music that's playing, I didn't
edit that in crazy with every person I met with smooth jazz. Okay,
yeah, that's again for anyone who doesn't know, if you haven't seen The
Clipper heard it before. I didn't edit that in to be funny, I
did with the Curb Your Enthusiasm music earlier that I did not edit. That's
that's what happened. They played him off like they do at an award ceremony,
like at the at the Oscars or something, if you've been rambling,
rambling a little too long, thanking too many people trying to save the world
while you're at the at the podium, when really everyone just wants to see
you take your stupid award and go bring up the next contestant. I don't
know, but the point is, but it's it's just who I don't even
know who who it was who interrupted him and said that's it. But that
was very awkward. We have a call. HI, welcome to Matt Connerton
unleashed. Who is this? It's John C. Hawkwood. Hello, what
is the C stand for John s ss air? Huh that's s's air uss
are do you buddy? Oh? I don't think there's a C in there?
Oh C C C P Oh there you you know what? I knew
that too, and I didn't I didn't connect the dots or I didn't connect
to the cs. When you're a brilliant linguist like me. Was a flawless
pronunciation of Russian. I'm sure I can found anybody, even a Russian speaker.
Wow, is someday you have to come on the show and tell us
all your secrets. I think you couldn't hold them all by no, no,
you t you T is a lot of stuff. Well, we'll put
it behind a paywall or something, and so it's not like just anyone can
get to it. We'll make a lot of money, I think. But
I would like to raise a point. Do you think that when you're dealing
with the foreign countries that are not have no, they are not in the
leaders as well as the people are not in culturated in the romance that America
tells itself that they believe that Joe Biden actually is a powerful person other than
a figurehead. Well, I want to make sure I understand what you're saying.
So you're saying that you that you believe that these leaders assume that Biden
is a figurehead and not actually in charge. Is that what you're saying.
Well, I remember in the seventies when the people from the Soviet Union would
give a process of like the nineteen eighty election, it was basically that the
presidential candidates are chosen beforehand, which we've seen increasingly is true. The democratic
process in the United States is hardly well as the economists would call it.
It's a flawed democracy, with Canada being a much better democracy according to the
economists, since it is a parliamentary system. But you know, somebody like
Jimmy Carter is vetted by Rockefell, this Trilateral Commission, which in the time
of the seventies they didn't have the term conspiracy theorists because so many conspiracies turned
out to be true and because people were being charged with conspiracy all the time
by the federal and state government. Very easy thing to prove by the way,
in court at conspiracy, as our good deer of former Eater will probably
be finding out, much to his chagrin, soon. Huh, I would
say so, I wouldn't think that she would think that Biden is the power
you've seen him to trump to his power was circumscribed by the people around them.
So for that reason, then are you arguing that it really kind of
doesn't matter in terms of how Biden looks on the world stage telling stories from
a John Wayne movie that probably most people in America haven't even seen, let
alone in Hanoi. If I was there and talking about John Wayne said to
the Indian right, if I was in your studio now and there's a camera
me, I would be very I get my hat off in front of my
face, trying to stop smirking. Yeah. I think at this point that
everybody had his bread and before this it's like God, damn, huh,
something's wrong with the United States. Yeah, but when you're dealing with the
United States, you're just not dealing with these fools that call themselves presidents.
You're dealing with these mighty international corporations that are the United States and the government.
I don't think saying that is any as controversial there have been in the
seventies. I mean, there are very powerful individuals in business and we're not
talking about like the mosques. We're talking about more established people like heads of
defense contractors, heads of banks. The one thing the United States still controls
is the international system of payments. You know, when you had detant was
the Soviet Union. The one thing the United States would never allow is for
Eastern Bloc in Russia to become integrated with the international system of payments, which
severely hampered their economy. I know this is very boring and everything. No,
you see, I think I kind of becoming incorporated, you know,
through the World Trade Organization, through the various Bank of International Settle b iis,
but Bank of International Settlements as such. But I you think that,
Well, wasn't even there was he? No? Uh. China and Russia
both had a presence at the G twenty, but they did not send h
G and Putin both did not go. They sent a lower level people.
Z deliberately. Well, we didn't expect put In the show upon he does
some international restaurants. Yeah, no way in hell Putin was gonna be there.
I was actually surprised that she didn't go. But yeah, Putin I
assumed wouldn't be going, right, And if he leaves Russia, he might
never get back in right right, And yeah, it's gonna might be another
tsar there in the very next day. But he did it, from what
I've read to you know, to insult the United States. But yeah,
I mean it's kind of embarrassing. You know, he's an old thought.
He always embarrassed himself speaking well, I mean, he's always been gaff prone.
But this is, uh, this is getting pretty bad. And you
know, and I remember too, that's the second time he's told the dog
Faced Pony Soldiers story from that John Wayne movie. He did that back when
he was campaigning. He said that to a college student who I'm sure had
no idea what the hell he was talking about, and probably hardly anyone in
the room did either. It was very very but he's uh. And the
way this ended, too, like is somebody just interrupts him and says,
okay, we gotta go, and and that that jazz music starts playing.
The whole thing is so bizarre. Well, you know, he took about
fifteen seconds he's going to ask somebody a question, and then he couldn't ask
it. He said, I'm doing what I'm told or sometimes, Yeah,
who's all very bizarre. He shouldn't be allowed to do press conferences. They
kept breaking from press conferences and yeah depressed. You're right, so you know
he did this hard of hearing act. Yeah, you're right, I remember
that now. Yes, yes, they'd have him. Uh. They tried
to limit from what I recall, Uh, they tried to limit his interactions
with the press to Uh. He'd be walking to the helicopter and uh and
and he'd and people, you know, they'd be yelling questions at him.
But of course the helicopter is loud, it's turned on, and he just
uh, he just got a shrug and wave. He'd do the the Reagan
wave and he kept on the helicopter and that was it. That was pretty
much. Uh. I can't remember though John did he did Reagan early in
his presidency. Did he do press conferences and then they phased that out or
did he just never really do them? He did fewers press conferences, if
I remember correctly. And memories a strange thing like I probably a year or
two remember finding the magic bullet myself don until for the four year old toddler.
But you know, just like we were all at Club fifty four back
in nineteen seventy nine, Studio Gratudo disgraced herself Studio fifty four. Those were
good times, Studio fifty four. That yes, see how memory failed.
Yeah, but in nineteen eighty four, the first presidential debate with the less
than stunning opposition of mister Mondale, the former vice president, he had humiliated
himself and seemed well, we'd say in hightsight, afflicted with Alzheimer's or dementia
or something. But he recovered for the subsequent debate, and they limited him
and his interactions after that. But that's not unusual with the president that well,
the times were different. But FDR as he aged, you know,
he met he didn't. He didn't meet many people in the last couple of
years years. I mean, Harry Truman only met him once. Of course
he was dying. But by the way, the market Melanie and the charem
says, toddlers are kids aged one to two. So a four year old
toddler makes no sense just saying, okay, a four year old type anymore.
You have no children, so you wouldn't know this. I have no
children either, so I didn't even know that. John. So I don't
feel better. I once said, what's the I once you asked my sister
as three kids and grandkids, what's when does a todd they become a type?
Because you've gotta remember we were born in the fifties. Uh, we
were Eisenhowe's children, so well, they still used old colloquialism like types.
You know. Yeah, there's little tykes well rhymes with ike. When when
did you cease being a type? You can ask Melanie that m I don't
think anyone from my generation uses that term tyke, but I've heard it.
But I think that people there was there was a great deal of hostility to
the United States and they're always has been because it's a gemanistic power, which
goes with any power. I mean, it's not a moral you know,
we might we can sit back and talk about the morality of a head em
andy and imperialism, but the fact is, when you're a power, very
powerful country like Britain for two hundred years and we took over the mantle in
nineteen forty four, Bretton Wood, if you just exert your power. But
China has long bridled against the Western imperialism. The United States had a close
relationship with China because of Christian missionaries but you once you had the Communist Revolution
in the nineteen forty nine, you know, we supported Chang Kai Sheik,
who was a utterly corrupt, obscenely corrupt war lord who spent more time attacking
mios communist partisans during the War with China, which lasted from thirty one to
forty five for the Chinese then he did fighting the Japanese, who had,
you know, first intervened in China nineteen thirty one. And that's the regime
that Taiwan represents, the nationalist Chinese who had thoroughly bribed the Republican Party and
many Democrats. But Nixon, part of Watergate, those part of the reverberations
of Watergate was the bribery of politicians by the nationalist Chinese. And they even
bribed the Billy Carter, so you know, their bipartisan that was the but
in fact that reached up and touched a New Hampshire congressman family. Although we
won't go into the but I'm sure they see this in China as and other
countries that are even like India. We're getting a close relationship with them,
but they've always been wary of us because we didn't believe in a non aligned
movement. So Nehru was the founder of India always wanted to be non aligned
because of the reaction against British imperialism. Remember that FDR was against colonialism,
imperialism, one to break up the British Empire. So you would think that
in we would have a leg up. But then we supported the colonial wars
the French and Indo China, and then we took over the war. But
the Indians are wary of us. You know, they know what the United
States, the Anglo Americans are an Anglo American tradition. I bet they probably
see this as a metaphor for the decline of United States, the geminy.
But you know, yeah, we're still the one superpower. You know,
well, we have the corporate, the corporate, the financial muscle. You
do you you feel that we're still the one remaining superpower. You don't think
we're in a multipolar world with Russia and China. Russia's We've we have.
We staged a coup in twenty fourteen in Kia and overthrew the regime, the
pro Russian regime, and people I know were there since there was no trouble
until then. But the United States is tied Russia down. Russia has nuclear
weapons, but it's like Harry Truman said about Korea, you have you can
have nuclear weapons, but you can't use them. Yeah, I mean that
wouldn't have stopped the wart. Yeah, but Eisenhower. More, that has
come out every two things. The Korean War ended. Eisenhower was elected an
inaugurated in January twenty than fifty three. The war ends about June, but
Stalin died around March, so that was a big factor. But there were
stories, and I think they've been substantiated now that I told the new regime
in Russia, because you know, when you lose a dictator like that,
everything's kind of in Chaoskushav established himself crucialva Ukraine, who gave cream Crimea to
Ukraine, which causes, you know, fifty five years later, sixty years
later in trouble. Yeah, not just imperialism. But they say I probably
had threatened to use the atomic bomb, even though we didn't have a monopoly
on it anymoth More, they exploded their first nuke in forty nine, but
we developed the H bomb, and the Russians new Eisenhower, they knew him
personally, you know, so they took him seriously. But it was also
the Russian Soviet regime was by the week. But I mean you're talking about
regimes like Russia or when I was in the just were a join the army.
You had three ancient guys in a row after Bresnap kicked off. They
know all about sharontocracy. Yeah, who was it? Was it? And
drop off Uri and drop off who was the last? Who he who one
of the three? Yeah he was, He was in and out of there
really quick, right like he became the uh that he died and he died.
He died within like months, right, Yeah, three of them went
really quick, you know, Yeah, three of them went really really quick.
Yeah. But once again that that shows you the Soviet Union was ready
to collapse. Although me and other people that had dealt with Russian you know,
the Soviet Union, we're surprised when it happened, but it happened,
right, But then you get you get a rump version of the Soviet Union
eventually, because that's the only reality that culture knows. But the Chinese,
you know, it's it's embarrassing and humiliating. But if Trump was there,
how we would be embarrassed? We'd be laughing about what he had said.
Well, Trump wouldn't have Trump wouldn't have Well, he would have gone at
the G twenty, but he wouldn't have done much more. I mean,
he That's the thing I was saying earlier. I don't know. I don't
know how long you were listening to. I don't know if you're what I
was saying earlier, But I said, you know, I like the policy,
I like the strategy of y. Yeah, of what Biden is doing.
I just but the presentation worries me. And I'm worried that the presentation
of it actually does us more arm than good. Yes, but people that
were higher up in things that in the government than I was. But who
I know said that the Soviets absolutely respected James Baker when he was a Secretary
of State on the George Bush, they said, and they did not.
Of course, once again it was we didn't really quite know is on the
verge of collapse itself, right, and indeed it started collapsing in eighteen well
when the East Germany and the Warsaw Pack started collapsing. But they absolutely respected
his word and they knew that when he said something he wasn't f bombing around,
right. And the one thing about what I've heard some Kissinger and other
people the Chinese, The Chinese don't f bomb around either. They don't really
play games, yeah, you know, laying games as part of Henry Kissinger's
whole life. You know, he's you know, but you don't view these
he was, You don't view the you don't diplomacy. But you don't view
China as an as an emerging uh. I mean, there's a lot of
different opinions. You don't view China as an emergent superpower on par or well
not I shouldn't say on par because I know their economy is struggling, but
potentially on par with the United States. Well, you have to remember that
the nineties, we were all told that Japan was going to overthrow the United
States. That's true. Japan had no military power because they had been stripped,
and we provide the military power if we were if it wasn't for NATO,
which you know I'm against, and the expansion of NATO was uh.
But you know, occupying Germany's actually a good business because the Germans would be
out of again in my opinion, but that's just my opinion. They'd be
they'd be zig hiling again, you know, and snapping those boots right across
the pollen border. But that's just an opinion. But uh, it's funny.
You know, Kushav said that the West would sell the rope that hung
them. But of course Russians aren't Chinese. It's like we gave chin China
the rope to destroy the United States. But you know, all the brands
that they don't really exist anymore that by the seventies and eighties were Japanese.
Those were all Americans. When I was a little kid, we moved all
the factories to Japan because it was a cheaper labor. And then there was
moved to Korea, including the Japanese moved to Korea, then moved to China
and India. So capitalism as a way of you know, eating itself a
lot. Britain when I was a kid was dying most of the well.
World War One bankrupted Britain and by nineteen forty they didn't even have the gold
reserves to wage a war. That's FDR was the great man of the twentieth
century. He saved Britain and by saving Britain, he defeated the Soviet defeat,
not the Soviet Union, carden the Nazi Germany. Yeah, because they
were broke. The thing that they end. If you watch British movies from
the fifties and early sixties, they actually it's about working class people that just
don't like their lives. But they're going to facts like out the Great actor
Albert Sinney and Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, which is very famous British novel
of nineteen sixty sixty one, but working class live. He's working at a
bicycle factory. My sister still has the British bicycle that she had as a
girl. And but by the end of the sixties, except for like beetles
and the rolling stones, they had no exports at all because they took their
capital and rather than invested into their ancient factories which are older than even in
the ones of the here in the Northeast, so they predate us, like
Manchester in England pre dates Manchester and in New Hampshire. They moved their capital
overseas to get a higher return. And when I first moved went to Britain
in eighty two, my brother was stationed in the Air Force. It was
like almost the third world country really was, but it was like stecting back
into the forties. Yeah, where else would you go to German West Germany
and France? It was first World, but it wasn't quite you know,
even in the United States. I would say it was the advanced society in
the early eighties. I'm not sure if that's true. Like, I guess
you could go to one of these Arabic principalities and people say that the buildings,
the hotels and everything are just so fabulous. Yea, even though they're
ridiculous in a way because look where they are, right, They like Montreal
in yearly seventies was a modern city. But if you could compare it to
an Arab one of these new Arab cities or Chinese cities, it looks kind
of old, you know, in easing. Yeah might not to me.
Who's an old barn who hasn't been there? Well, because Montreal was a
city that was built after World War Two. Well, you know, you
said, you said a third world, didn't also refer to Vietnam as the
third World, and then tried to correct himself, But it had already it
had already come tumbling out of his mouth. Well, I don't think that,
you know, I don't think that most cultures, you know, they've
got enough to b I tc h about without the petty a little law,
you know, microaggressions of saying third world. Oh, I know, you
know, what is it? The developing world? Right, and even that's
gone, it's it was Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.
But it might seem like a small thing, but it's another log on the
fire, the fire of the flames of embarrassing. When you think about history,
just think about you know, I was in therapy with guys in Vietnam
from the Vietnam War. Where was the G twenty held Hanoy I'm I'm I'm
young enough to remember that North Vietnam is a satanic country that was waging a
war or against the grave and democratic people's south of it. In South Vietnam,
a completely artificial country that was created by the United States when it decided
to ignore the Geneva Accords and Denai Ho Chi Min his his one hit the
referendum. He won. And now we're there, you know, well,
we're making were we're making. Like I said, I like the strategy.
I like making friends with everybody in China's neighborhood. I think that's a good
thing. I just don't think Biden is the right Uh got to be Uh,
why shouldn't China. Why shouldn't China have the right to do that in
their own backyard? Why shouldn't China have the right right? Why shouldn't the
because they're not the democracy? Yeah, most of those countries aren't. Well,
that's true. I didn't. I didn't realize until recently, and I
I've done a little bit of reading about it. How and this seems to
be a trend. I mean you see it in India as well, But
apparently Vietnam is not not exactly not exactly a free press in Vietnam in terms
of how they treat their journalists, And it's similar to how Moody has treated
journalists in India. And it does seem to be the case that the people
who were strengthening are diplomatic, if not probably even more so actually economic ties
with They've got some they've got some some things to improve upon, but but
they're not going to improve upon it because authoritarianism and those cultures work. Yeah,
just like Russia, Ukraine too, and countries there have never known any
way shape form any type of democracy. It's not part of their culture.
They never had the rule of law. They never even had law. Law
was what, you know, bizarre are ukzy uk se. He just says
what it is and that's it. You can't really find there's no developed there's
no case law in Soviet Union or Russia. And I'm sure that's true in
Ukraine too, which was so similar, you know, so similar, and
the only real lawyers they'd have were human rights lawyers might wind up killed and
they would make everything into a human rights offense to try to appeal to the
European Union or something. But so you're talking about cultures that have no democracy,
and you're Hungary is an authoritarian country. Poland is an authoritarian country.
Poland has is run by a shadow dictator in a committee of safety that took
the rule of law and just you know, got ard of it virtually.
But look at Poland. Poland was part of Russia to one nineteen eighteen.
Then it was conquered. Then it was you know, why would democracy work.
It doesn't even work here in the United States. Well, we don't
get to vote, we don't even get to we don't even get to vote
for president here in New Hampshire during our own primary. I guess because the
president will put his name on right. Well that's a yeah. Well I
suppose he has no delegates. Well let's see, but remember when Bernie Sanders
won New Hampshire by sixty percent of the vote, he only got a third
of the delegates because people don't understand there are three tiers where delegates are chosen,
and that was just tier one. Are you talking about another two tiers
were controlled by the party. Are you talking about in twenty sixteen or twenty
twenty? Yeah? Twenty sixteen, yeah, yeah, I'm sure twenty fifteen
he got even less because he he barely won that one. Did I ask
you about if we talked about Mark Halper and what he said on Michael Smerconish's
radio show that Biden actually has decided not to run. He's just waiting until
the right time to let it out. I can't remember if you and I
talked about that. Yes, and we did, And as I pointed out,
he said the exact same thing in twenty nineteen that he's going to drop
out of the twenty twenty presidential election. It seems, you know, when
you're a writer. You have all this crap in your head and it makes
it easier to write stuff. I call it a boiler plate. So so
it's just if you're writing a sports article, man, the article's already half
written before you ever sit down. You know, are you saying that if
you've written in a thousand time? Oh? So are you saying that about
Halper? And then you think he just yeah, this is his stick Okay,
because I have noticed nothing he said on Superconishus show has filtered through the
rest of mainstream media. It's and I'm kind of surprised, but maybe I
shouldn't be. Well, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on
in the media. We just found some Meta is not allowing anybody to search
for the word COVID on its new Twitter like platform lest anybody gets a bad
information, So you don't get any information at all. Oh, I didn't
know that. I'm not on there yet, the new post. But you
know, the exciting news, of course, is about our illustrious form or
first Magister to the Republic, who I guess there's overwhelming evidence that he knew
that the election. There was no election fraud, ample ample evidence, which
is probably why we have to impeach Joe Budden. Well, as Chris Chrissie
has pointed out, when when Trump came out of two thirty in the morning
and said this election was stolen from us, he even if it was true,
he would have no way of knowing at that moment, no data whatsoever
to go on nothing. So, yeah, of course he knew he had
blast, of course, but there are ample evidence given in court cases and
testimony now in front of Congress, and that that he knew that the election
was not right stolen right, that that the enough people had told him it
wasn't gave him specific you know, right up until January fourth, you know,
they're telling telling him. Yeah, Bill Barr told him. Bill Barr
told him flat out, it's it's it's bs there's nothing here, you know,
told him, told him straight he said, you know, I can't
say the word, but you know he called it BSh. He'll be convicted
of a felony by what do you think, June or July at twenty twenty
four. Oh, who knows, I don't know. I mean, it's
not gonna matter. He's gonna be the nominee, don't matter what. But
uh, I don't know, they might. I don't know. Why wouldn't
he be can happen in the year. Yeah, he's gonna be. I
firmly believe he's going to be the nominee. I I and and listen,
if if Biden is going to stay in UH, he may Trump may very
well be the next president. I mean, you know, I always say
we're just one Mitch McConnell moment away, uh from UH from Biden losing to
Trump. It's It's true. I I firmly believe that if if uh,
and and after seeing Biden's performance in HANOI, I think I think that Mitch
McConnell moment might be coming down the pike. Yeah, but who's going to
One of the reasons, there's the famous story that Nixon said that he picked
active because nobody would assassinate him, right and uh Dick Dick Nixon, who
was in Dallas the day that Jay his pal John Kennedy he was shot,
and would harass CIA director Robs Richard Helms by bringing it up about John Kennedy
getting killed. So even Dick Nixon thought the CIA had something to do with
it, and they probably were essential and easing him out the door too,
you know, I mean, what was the guy It was E. Howard
Hunt, the guy who wrote the Detective novels and then screwed up the Watergate
burglary. Yeah, he had been a director of a dirty operations on under
Dick Bissell in the CIA. But I mean, you know, I've heard
people say that he picked h he picked the Vike's president. I can't even
remember her name. I actually know it, Kamela Harris because you know,
you know, I associate with Progresses in California, and she did not have
a good reputation, let's put it that way, right, and uh,
And as you can see, she's a real non anthony, a very abracive
person to begin with. But nobody wants to see her as president. I
I did see over the weekend, so on Sunday she was interviewed. I
forget the name of the journalists who interviewed her on Face the Nation on CBS,
and she she just she doesn't say anything. But when I I say
she doesn't say anything, I don't mean it in the way that. Yeah,
you know, lots of politicians talk a lot but don't say anything.
They use a lot of words without actually saying anything, but she literally doesn't
say much like she she's she's asked a question and she gives relatively short,
unsatisfying answers, and there's just nothing there. It's kind of bizarre. I
don't think I've ever seen anyone quite like her. But also I don't remember
her being like that during the twenty twenty campaign. She almost comes across like
she's just kind of bored with the whole thing. Does that make sense?
Like leash, she's on a short leash, because if she runs her mouth,
she she puts her foot in it. She says some pretty outrageous things
herself. You know, nothing on the equivalent of of Trump. I mean,
Trump is like you know, Jimmy Hendrix is to electric guitarists, to
politicians with foot in the mouth disease. You know, he's the king what
Elvis wants to rock and roll. Yeah, but she was just a person
with Willie Brown's girlfriend got elected. Was she the DA And then she parlayed
into California Attorney general, which is an elected position because California became a one
party state by the year two thousands, And you know, she's just there.
You know, the old days, the vice president was just some non
entathy that they many of the presidents for it too, you know, right,
Well, I always wasn't until I was just gonna say, I always
say that it seems like every vice president who to a large degree kind of
fades into the background. But so I don't hold that against her when people
say, oh, well, where is she, Well, she's where a
vice president typically ends up for whatever reason, they fade into the background.
And I guess there are reasons for that. But but but yeah, when
but when she does interact with the media, it's like this, it's it's
just like I said, it seems like she's just kind of over it.
Like I don't know if she even wants to be president. She just seems
like she's, uh, I don't know, wants to be president. I
don't know she I don't know what she wants. She doesn't seem to me
like she wants to be president. She seems like she just wants to I
don't know. I don't know. I just I saw that interview and it's
like, this is nothing here. Yeah, but that's who she is.
Yeah, I guess, I don't know. I mean, it doesn't matter
who's president really in many ways, because they are just a figurehead. He
developed the cabinet government. Yeah, that's why you could have like inconsequential Well,
I'm simplifying things to degree. Even Abraham Lincoln, who's supposed that we
got to a dictator because of the war the repel all renamed the Civil War
in the late eighteen nineties for the sake of you know, comedy between the
two It's not comedy comedy, right, sake of good relations between the two
sections. And because the New York and Boston banks and Philadelphia banks wanted to
develop, you know, get back down there and start look, you know,
squeezing every last buck they could out of the South and all of its
resources. He ruled with a cabinet. I mean, Doris Goodwin was it
grs Kern's Goodwin wrote the book, but was it about e cabinet of each?
I can't remember the title that Spielberg made that wonderful movie Lincoln out of.
Because he had the deal with with people that represented different wings of the
Republican Party, like Seward, who was represented the abolitionists. And so you've
always had the thing of you know, the cabinet government, something we get
from England and parliamentary system, the English parliamentary system, the prime minister,
and but by the time of Eddy Roosevelt, then Wilson, World War One
and that FDR, you've got the imperial presidency, which you know, Truman
was an imperial president, where they started ruling by executive order and stuff because
of the complexity of things. But you see, if you have a weakling
as president, it's not a good thing. Because you know, Jimmy Carter
was a very fine human being. He still is, but he's a lawsy
president. He's just inexperience. But Reagan had an excellent cabinet and he had
one of the best people as his chief of staff. Remember Jim Baker was
his chief of staff. Then he became Secretary the Treasury. When Jim Baker
was was Reagan's chief step in the first term, they managed to get all
that legislation through which was quite i wouldn't say radical, but somewhat revolutionary,
and that it did curb the old, you know, new deal, fair
deal type of government to the philosophy. Then he became Secretary of the Treasury
in the second term and you had the big economic upturn, and then he
was a Secretary of State under the first George Bush. So he's quite a
remarkable person. And Caspar Weinberger was an excellent, uh secretary of Defense.
The problem with the Trump is, you know, Jesus age, you know,
what do you mean? Cabinet? Only the best people, the best
people, only the best people, what do you mean? Yeah? The
first pre exisite. You can't be taller than the right, which when you're
six three, if he is sixty back, man, he's kind of easy.
Bars. Yeah, he he topped out at six three. I don't
think he's six three anymore. At at at seventy seven years old, nobody's
six three. But uh, oh, come on, he was done in
Georgia. He was six three in Georgia. Yeah, when he reigned him
Oh right, and what was he two hundred and fifteen pounds? I think
pretty amazing. Yes, the dude's a shape shifter. I'll tell you it's
remarkable. Yeah, he's many things, right, that's right. Well,
John, okay, Matt, I will give you back your show from Professor
Hopwood. Well, I frustrated college lecturer. Well, I appreciate the call.
Always nice here for me with my friend, But I think that the
Chinese even with the startering old fire. You know, they realize that they've
got a deal with I assume there are competent people, you know, in
his cabinet. I haven't seen anything that indicates contrary to that, right right,
all right, okay, take care, all right, John, thanks
for the call. Bye bye bye, all right. Always nice to you.
I always learned things. We all learn things from John Hopwood, Ronoferverro
in the chat room said, h Hoppy Baby, you never cease to amaze
me walking history book. No, I've always said John has more knowledge in
his head than almost anybody I've I've ever met, and we we do always
learn from him. Uh, let's we are past stop there, let's take
a break. I'm gonna play a couple of quick songs and I'm gonna play
another song from Mike Laughlin his band Glorious Noise called Red Letter Day and and
I'm also going to play something from Sepsis lead lines great track because I see
Hans Smith from the band Sepsis in the Facebook latch at with us. Hello
Hans. He called the show for the first time last week. It was
nice year from him. But yeah, so we'll play a couple of things
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Don't go away, there is plenty more to come. Our thoughts and
prayers were the people in Morocco and our friend Kim Mohammed seven six, I
should say, and his administer, my administration, including a Secretary of State
Lincoln as a twenty we at the G twenty there was sufficient agreement in the
room on the need for Jess for justin lasting peace. And I hope that
I think that primacter she I mean she has some some difficulties right now,
okay, I mean increase the third world, the third world, the global
South capacity to grow. If everybody in the world had a job they got
up in the morning and one to go to and thought they and they could
put three spears on the table for their family, no matter where they live,
the whole world, they've got her off. Uh sorry, if they're
in fact able to generate significant capacity to absorb to prevent carbon from being released
in the air, that uh pipeline of that railroad we're talking about going across
from the Middle from India throughout the Middle East. So I have not I
have not given up at all on the notion that we're going to be able
to you know, how can I say it? I think, for example,
the consequence of what we've done, we're the most, we have the
most, we have the strongest economy in the world today. Right now today
the United States America as the strongest economy in the world, in the world.
And there's my My brother loves having there's famous lines some movies that he
always quotes, you know, and what one of them is there is there's
a movie about John Wayne is an Indian scout and they're trying to get the
I think it's a patch of one of the great tribe and the Indian scout.
The Indian looks at John Wayne and it's points of the Union. Asso
says, he's a lion, dog faced pony soldier. I see, I'm
just following my orders here. Uh I met with his number two persons here
and in excuse me in uh India today. I don't anyway. I just
think that there are other things on leaders' minds and they respond to what's neiss
of time and look, nobody likes having but I tell you what I don't
know about you. But I'm gonna go to bed. I would like to
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I played Red Letter Day from my friend Mike Laughlin, who's going to be
here with us in studio live on Thursday, and I also played bleed Lines
from the band Sepsis. I saw Hans Smith in the Facebook live chat from
the band, and I said, I'll play some Sepsis today, But yeah,
Mike Laughlin will be here on Thursday. Really looking forward to that.
Tomorrow, of course, is Wednesday, which means I'll be joined by my
favorite conservative Eric Pilcher all the way from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, skyping in.
But a little bit of a different thing this week. He's going to
be skyping in during the second hour instead of the first hour because he has
another commitment during the first hour. But I said, yeah, that's fine,
So we've got Eric tomorrow. Of course, Thursday as I mentioned we
have Mike Laughlin, who's gonna be with us, I think for the full
two hours. We'll talk to her in the first hour and in the second
hour he's gonna bring his he's gonna have his guitar with him. He's gonna
play some songs for us. And then Friday on the show, we have
a musical guest, the band Able Blood. We'll be our guest on Friday.
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trying to say. Yeah, a little bit of a Biden montage I played
there from annoy, Uh, let's see. And Rona Favero says, you
and me both brother. Of course, whenever I see the word brother in
print, I think of hul Cogan. I hear it in huld Cogan's voice,
you and me both brother. Ronda also commented Sepsis rules, Yes,
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message to us well, very good hashtag Sepsis rocks from us. Wondrous Swade
says, very good, very good again, six three, two, five,
six seven. If you want to chime in on anything, we've been
talking about Biden's performance in Hanoi and again, I would just say, and
if you're just joining us in your regular listener, you've heard me say it
on the show before. I do believe that he needs to let somebody else
take the reins. I don't mean that he needs to resign, but I
do think he should drop out and let somebody else run for the presidency.
And there's still time to do that. And I've said too that I feel
that President Biden is selfish for staying in and somebody else is finally saying it
using that word specifically, media has this progressive Jank Huger, who of course
is from The Young Turks, says the thing that quote no one else is
willing to say unquote on the left about intensely selfish Joe Biden, it says
here. A progressive pundit, JENK. Huger, founder and host of The
Young Turks, called out President Joe Biden Saturday for putting ego before a country
and shared a petition, a petition calling for the Democrat to quote do the
right thing unquote. Uger posted a message on x formerly Twitter, calling Biden
intensely selfish for running again in the twenty twenty four election. The tweet comes
after several days of news about a devastating new CNN poll that showed the president,
in the words of Abby Philip, quote is being weighed down by many
weaknesses unquote. Uger on Friday referenced the negative pulling in a post questioning the
basis for a re election bid, and on Saturday went hard against it,
writing that he's willing to quote say the one thing no one else will unquote,
presumably meaning no one else in the party or the press is willing to
say about the incumbent Democrat. Quote Joe Biden is being intensely selfish and running
aga yet Oh, actually they have. They have the two tweets here.
I'll I'll just read these right through again. These are at Jank Huger.
This is what he said. Joe Biden says he is running for president again.
So what Why does every Democrat have to listen to him? Why is
it assumed by everyone in Washington that descent isn't allowed against someone in power?
What a weird assumption. I don't agree. Two thirds of Democratic voters don't
agree. I'll say the thing no one else is willing to say, Joe
Biden is being intensely selfish by running again. He's putting his ego above the
interests of his party and his country. So those are the two tweets it
says you're In a subsequent tweet, Yuger included the link to a petition titled
President Biden, Please Drop Out, posted on The Young Turk's website that calls
for Biden to immediately bow out of the twenty twenty four race to make way
for quote, the next generation of democratic leaders. The petition. This is
an ex from the petition. President Joe Biden has had a long and historied
career in American government. He rescued us from the possibility of a second Trump
term, and we appreciate his service to the country. But at this point
in time, we must have a strong, healthy candidate to make sure we
avoid a fascist takeover of our government. Dear mister President, please do the
right thing and bow out with dignity so we can move on to the next
generation of democratic leaders, and so that we can defeat Donald Trump and the
radical Republicans. All right, So that's from the petition. It says you're
at the time of the post, the petition has racked up approximately fifteen hundred
signatures, which isn't very much. But it sounds like the petition just went
over over the weekend. You know. Again, We'll go back to when
Mark Halperin was on Michael Smerconish's radio show and he said he claimed made the
claim that high level sources close to President Biden had told him that the decision
has already been made and that Biden is in fact going to reverse and drop
out, but was trying to figure out the best way to go about this.
But uh, but we'll see, and Mike Doyle is on the line
him Mike, hey man, Hey, did I miss something that. Did
President Biden never come out and say I'm running for re election? Yes?
I don't remember seeing that that I'm I'm running again? Or I don't know.
He hasn't been. He hasn't been doing any campaigning. And I guess
I missed the event where he actually stood up and said I'm running again.
But I missed that. Oh no, there no here, there was an
announcement. Uh, and there was a that's a that's an announcement, But
that's not him saying I'm running or no, he no what I mean because
everybody, everybody's writing his speeches, everybody's writing everything for him, so he's
just going along for the ride. But I haven't He hasn't done any campaign.
He isn't. And when I found funny that you said, you said
he should step aside and let somebody step in. Somebody can run against him
right now, look at Kennedy's doing it. And I know it's the old
thing. If you're an incumbent in your but this is special circumstances, right,
He's getting getting up there in years, he's doing some struggles things like
that. So I don't know. I don't know, but I I don't
know. And I never heard the official I am running for reelection, So
well, no, it definitely, it definitely happened. Yeah, Okay,
I missed it. Yeah, oh no, there's an announcement. But but
I don't think anyone's I don't think anyone's very excited about it. I mean,
polling data shows seven and ten Democrats don't want him to run for a
second term. And that's not that's not across the political spectrum. That's democrats.
Seven and ten Democrats want him to finish up this and then ride off
into the sunset. And uh and by the way, there's no great enthusiasm
for Kamala Harris either. So I think, you know Gavin Newsome, who
I think is running in twenty eight, but I could see him. Apparently
Newsome has formed a pack and so he might be he might be kind of
waiting just in case. But like I said, halper And claims Mark Halperin
claims that Biden has actually decided not to run, but he's just trying to
figure out the best exit strategy. So we'll see. And I'm surprised.
I'm surprised at Newsome because California is a mess. Their their financials are completely
upside down. People are jettisoning themselves out of that state to get to go
to another state. Businesses are going to Texas and New Mexico and stuff like
that to get out of California with their taxes. And I'm really kind of
surprised. But it's it's more I guess it's more of a young stud sing
versus you know, maybe political line. Guess I don't know why. Well,
I'll tell you what Newsome has that Biden certainly doesn't. That Biden did
at one time but clearly at almost eighty one years old, does not have
anymore. Newsome is able to articulate for whether you agree with him or not.
Newsom is able to articulate very well, uh policies and argue for them.
I don't know, I feel like we might have talked about it before.
I'm not sure, But did you see his appearance on Hannity sit down
interview with yeah, okay, yeah, so he even got high marks from
Patrick Bett David, who hates Newsome. I don't know, if you're familiar
with Patrick Bette David's podcast, he hates Newsome. He said he actually left,
he packed up his business and left California specifically because of Gavin Newsom's policies.
But even he said that he saw Newsome on Hannity's show, and while
he hates Newsome and disagrees with him on everything, he said Newsom really brought
it in terms of being prepared and really articulating and just was very in terms
of presentation, was very impressive. So so Newsom's got something, uh so,
well, you know, I think he's I think there's some enthusiasm for
Gavin Newsom, but I don't know. I don't know if he's not necessarily
a household name nationally. Certainly, if you if you go back and look
at that handy thing, you'll see that when Hannity asked some tough about his
state and upside down money and you know, people leaving, and Newsom has
a good way. He's very good at like shrugging it off with an answer
that didn't that didn't answer the question, but he laughs into it and he's
you know, he's You're right, he does very well communicating. Whether you
think he's communicating for the proper answer to that question, that's one thing.
But he had a lot of laughs on that show, the two of them,
him and and he seemed to laugh off a lot of the stuff that
Hanny was hitting him with. But and and one last thing. Remember my
prediction last year. I told you, I said Biden will not run,
and I said Hillary Clinton will show We'll show up. And she's starting to
show herself everywhere on all the shows. Yeah, people, people, people
said that in twenty twenty two. Oh look, Hillary's lurking around. No,
Hillary's not coming back. Hillary's not coming back. And by the way,
Mike, you did also say that you didn't think Trump was gonna run.
Yeah, anyway, that's all right, But that but that's one of
the that's one of the fun things about politics is making predictions, and sometimes
we're wrong and and uh, but that's one of the fascinating things about it.
But no, I I promise you, Mike, Hillary is no nobody
nobody wants to hear from. I mean, I'm not saying nobody wants here
from Hillary. I shouldn't put it that way, but nobody, nobody wants
her running for anything. Not at this point her her time is coming downe
that golden ring of the first female president is still out there, and the
power that holds and the and the you know, it's just I don't know
if it's enough to keep her out of the race. She's one last thing.
Do me a favor, because I know you're a nice guy. I'm
saying that on your radio show. You're a nice guy. We all know
it. But I hate when you call when you said, next time Joe
Biden does a Mitch McConnell, I hate that because only because obviously what McConnell's
going through is some tough stuff. You know, it would be like you're
saying, if Joe Biden has another Diane Feinstein. You know, it's sad
that we have to even talk like that. But it's just the guy's hurting.
They like him or not, he's just hurt. Well, I'm not
trying to be easy, No, I understand, I take your point.
I'm not trying to be uh. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Mitch.
But I'm just trying to make the point though, And I think it's
a valid point that you know, if anything, if I didn't has any
kind of a moment like that, Trump will absolutely be be the next president.
I have no doubt about that. And uh, Biden's had plenty,
plenty of those. Well he hasn't. He hasn't had anything where he's frozen
up like like McConnell has no no, no. But but if that happens
and and and and I'm thinking about too. Can you imagine if that happened
during a debate, if that happened to Biden or in the middle of a
speech where he just completely I mean that that would be the end. And
and I'm just so I just say that to make the point. Uh we
you know he understand, you know, he should not be the point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it's just humanitarian wise, just kind
of like I don't know, you know what I mean, they're just they're
both kind of him in Feinstein are both you know, they shouldn't be there.
They're not. Oh no, I agree, we're not representing the people.
Yeah, well we've talked about that before. I mean with Feinstein,
it's uh I feel sorry for her because uh she's clearly uh non compass mentis
and it's not it's it's it's unacceptable. That situation is completely unacceptable. She
supposedly turned to her in a in a meeting inside where am I. Oh,
yeah, there's been there's been several reported incidents where she doesn't know where
she is. Uh, someone I think her daughter has her power of attorney.
Uh, they're they're propping her up. It's it's uh, it's really
disturbing. And uh, I can't believe Uh, I just I can't believe
it. I can't think of another example in history where we've seen something.
I mean, look, a lot of these people stick around long beyond their
cell by date. But I I've never seen anything quite as egregious as the
Dianne Feinstein situation that I can think of. I mean, can you think
of anything quite quite like that? I can't think of anything. It's it's
it's wheeling her in and she just looks despondent as you're, William are in.
It's just it's it's sad to see. It's horrible, you know,
on and on and on. Oh yeah, hey, I have one last
question for you. I'd love to see just your answer and all hanging up
and listen, sure, out of all the Republicans you've seen so far the
debates, who if you were forced to vote for a Republican who had met
Connaton vote for at this point? Okay? But right so I'm just wondering
what, yeah, what you've seen, and what's your take is so far?
Okay, I'll talk to you later. All right, all right,
thanks for the call. I appreciate it. All right, that was That
was our friend Mike Doyle. Six O three two five zero six zero seven
is the studio line. If you'd like to get in with a call,
six O three two five zero six zero seven, I can tell you.
Well. So to answer Mike's question, it's a good question. Uh,
I don't think this answer will surprise anybody. But I tend to the kind
of Republicans that I like politically, tend to be moderate Republicans because I'm not
a well I'm not a Republican, I'm an independent. I'm kind of a
I think the best description of my politics which people seem to agree with when
I the first time I said it. So I'm sticking with it as I'm
center left but with a with a healthy dose of libertarian in some ways,
too. But you know, Chris Christie, I would say, is the
most moderate in the field of Republicans. So policy wise, I would I
would tend to go with him, you know. And and he's uh telling
the truth about Trump and and and even if you don't like what he says,
you know, he certainly is he's not afraid to say any of it.
And he's he doesn't care if you boo him for it. So I
respect that. Having said that, though I will never trust him. So
policy wise, I think it, yeah, I mean, it would definitely
be Chris Christie. He's the only he's the only real moderate in the field,
right. Everyone else I think is pretty conservative. But I'll never trust
him because of Bridgegate. And I've always said I believe he knew what was
going on, uh, you know, the the traffic problems in Fort Lee
time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee. I think he knew what was
going on. I don't see how he could not have known. I don't
think he's honest about it, and I will I will stand by that,
but I guess he'd he'd have to be the one just from a policy standpoint,
I mean, I like what Asa Hutchinson has to say, and that
he's you know, he wants to move beyond the politics of vengeance. Nicky
Haley has said some things I agree with, like you know, standing up,
standing up for Ukraine, not letting Putin get away with what he's doing.
And Chris Christy too. Chris Christie actually went to Ukraine, which I
thought was really good. I'm trying to think, is there anybody else I
would I mean Vake Ramaswami, I think is uh kind of a clown?
Uh? Tim Scott interest I like his positivity. I think he's pretty conservative.
Yeah, I guess it would be Chris Christie. You know, gun
to my head. If I had to vote for a Republican in this race,
it would be him. Uh. J Fed says in the chat room,
If I had to vote for a Republican, it would be Trump.
Wow, Jenny says. He says that like Matt has never voted for a
Republican, That's true. I have voted for Republicans in the past and Libertarians
as well. Melanie says. Oh. Melanie, throwing some shade, says
Mike can't deal with any Republican criticism, but loves to point out the same
things about Democrats. Well like most people, he does. I think see
things through through a partisan prism, if you will, an ideological prism.
But yeah, and again, like I said to Mike, I'm not trying
to be disrespectful of But I mean, Melanie does make a good point because
I you know, I come on the show and uh, I make fun
of Biden and I call him Grandpa and time to take the keys away from
Grandpa. And Mike doesn't seem to have any problem with that. But uh,
yeah, so you do have a point there, Melanie. But no,
but I'm not I'm not really Look, I'm not trying to be disrespectful
to anybody. Just to be clear, I'm not trying to disrespect Mitch McConnell.
I'm not trying kind of disrespect Joe Biden. But we've got to deal
with and I'm not trying to respect disrespect Diane Feinstein and neither was Mike either.
But clearly, but we do have a problem in this country. It's
the jerontocracy. And it's not about picking on people for being old or anything
like that. Not really, there's a deeper issue here. People become entrenched
because look, what do when you see people who are very old. I
mean, let's let's be real about it. When you see people who are
very old and as I said, you know, past their cell by date,
with tremendous power, why does that happen? Because these are people?
What do all these people have in common? Right? Think about it.
You know, Biden and McConnell and Feinstein and Pelosi who's running again, she's
running for reelection, will never be in leadership again, but she has announced
she's running for reelection. What are they all have in common? Well,
they're they're all controlled by their donors, by the donor class, because that's
who they really work for. Right, So it's very important to the people
who give them money that these people remain in power to continue to do the
bidding of the people who give them money. And that's why we get into
this situation. And I'm not exactly sure what the solution is other than people
have to start having a problem with it. In other words, we need
Americans to start saying, wait a minute, these people have been around way
too long. Let's get some new people in there. Because Americans can do
that. We have seen instances in the past where people get primaried. I
remember when the word primary actually became a verb. You know this, You
know this person is running to try to primary the incumbent out of the nomination,
right, so it can be done, but it doesn't happen enough.
It doesn't happen very often. A lot of people will tell you, well,
the solution is term limits or an age limit. I don't think term
limits. People who argue for that, they mean, well, but I
don't think it's the panacea that people think it that it is. And you
know, age limits, I don't know. You'd have to ratify. You
would literally have to ratify the Constitution to pull that off. But you know,
as Americans, we have the power. We can use our vote to
vote for I guess what I'm saying is we don't have to keep reelecting these
very old people. We can insist with our votes on younger people who are
not as beholden to I mean, look, they're all beholden to the donor
class. But we can elect younger people. We are the ones who vote.
So I think the real answer is we have to be able to have
honest discussions. And again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to anybody,
and I don't like I'm you know what, I'm uncomfortable with. I don't
like how agist I sound, because look, the reality is, everyone ages
differently, And I mean, you know, I've met people in their nineties
who seem perfectly lucid and capable, and I would have no problem with them
being in charge of something. But we we have to. We have to
be able to when we're talking about things as important as, for example,
the presidency of the United States, we do have to be able to speak
about these things honestly and confront them honestly. So we have to be able
to have blunt conversations that are uncomfortable that some people aren't gonna like. And
you know, if that means, you know, somebody maybe doesn't like the
way I make a point, or somebody doesn't like that I'm agis or whatever
it is, well, I'm sorry, but these are conversations we're going to
have to have. We just have to. It's necessary if you want to
have a healthy, functioning democracy, if you want to have a strong country,
we have to have these conversations. And this is very much on the
table right now. And Diane Feinstein is the most egregious example, and I
think it's horrible that. I mean, what should have happened by now.
I don't know. I don't know how these people live with themselves who allow
this situation to continue to go on. They won't I understand why they won't
push her out. Here's the problem, by the way, for anyone who
doesn't know. Here's what's really going on in California as best as I can
figure it. Adam Schiff, Congressman Adam Schiff of California wants to run for
that Senate seat, and he knows that if Feinstein goes early. If Feinstein
resigns, Gavin Newsom, governor of California, has already publicly said he will
appoint. Because different states to it, I think the rules vary a little
bit, but California is a state where if a senator resigns, the governor
appoints someone to fill that seat for the remainder of the term of the senator
who either resigns or dies or whatever happens. Right, if that senator goes,
the governor appoints somebody, And Gavin Newsom is already publicly said I will
appoint the first black female Senator from the state of California to fill that seat.
He has made that promise, and Adam Schiff knows well if Gavin Newsom
does that, that that seat's been filled, whoever he appoints might run for
reelection when Feinstein's term is up, whoever replaces her in that seat, and
then what's Adam Schiff gonna do. He can't run for that seat. I
mean he can, but now he's got somebody in his way. He wants
a glide path. He wants Feinstein to finish out her term so that he
can then run for that seat because obviously she's not running for reelection. So
that's what's going on in California. And it's despicable. And the Democrats who
are allowing this situation to continue are despicable. And Chuck Schumer should have made
sure months ago that this was resolved and a al Gavin Knewsome to a point,
whomever he wants, and Adam Schiff just has to suck it up because
this is it's just really disturbing. And Diane Feinstein, like I said,
she's clearly non compass I don't know if I'm saying it right. Non compass
mentis Latin. She was out for months and months and months, and uh,
it's it's I mean, I've seen video of you know, somebody's off
camera telling her how to vote because she doesn't. Yeah, she's lost.
And I don't say any of this would be cruel. I have. I'm
a compassionate person, like Mike said, I'm a nice guy. I have
compassion and empathy. But that doesn't negate that we have to be able to
have difficult conversations about these matters, especially when it's gotten this bad. I've
never seen anything quite like the fine Stein situation. Look, we've seen situations
where sometimes people are struggling. God, I remember when Senator John McCain when
he was I mean he was really he was in tough shape. He was
going through cancer treatment and he was it was rough, but he came back.
He managed to come back for an important vote. There's been other there's
there's been examples of people in wheelchairs being brought in for votes because they were
missing a lot of votes because they were ill or something was wrong. And
that's one thing. But the day in fine Stein situation, I've never seen
anything like that in my life. I never thought that I would. And
every single person who lets this continue, they I don't know how they sleep
at night, and it's it's horrifying. It's absolutely horrifying. Rona Fervero,
who is in California, says, Matt agreed one. Jenny says again,
you know, referring to uh, you know, the gerontocracy. They're voting
on our lives. Ffs. Jenny says, shared just performed and she's seventy
six and look looks as hot as ever. Well shared it, shares had
I had a lot of work done, of course. Uh. Jay Fed
says, I'm sick of four dollars gas and I don't mind mean tweets.
I think I think Jay Fed is uh playing a little bit there. Oh.
Tom Sapienza says, in the chat room, they sleep drunk with power,
that's how they sleep at night. Yeah, exactly, you're right,
Tom, You're absolutely right. Jenny says, uh, oh not not not
a lot. Only teetha knows. She admits, oh, chare, Yeah,
maybe I don't know. I don't know. Hey, if she can
still do it, that's great. Hey. Look at Mick Jagger. Mick
Jagger's eighty dude runs around on dude runs around on stage like he's swunny,
sings and doesn't run out of breath, and of course he has to.
From what I've read Mick Jagger, he actually exercises three hours a day.
He does three hours of cardio every single day of his life. Because he's
eighty years old and to be able to still do that, that's what he
has to do. But he does it. You know, he does the
work. And again, you know, everyone ages differently. I understand that.
I mean, Chuck Grassley, that's part of why the whole age limit
thing is a little dicey. Like Chuck Grassley, Senator Chuck Grassley of Nebraska,
he's ninety ninety one. Apparently he goes running every day, you know,
and he still seems perfectly lucid mentally. And that's why, like I
said earlier, I mean, you know, I've known people in their nineties
who seem fine, you know, they might have a little trouble getting around,
although Chuck Grassley doesn't. Apparently he goes running every morning still from what
I understand, which is incredible. So everyone's different. Everyone age is different.
But but when when we can see, when we can physically see that
the wheels are coming off, whether it's fine stein, whether it's Biden.
I'm not so sure with McConnell, because if it is true that these freeze
ups that he've that he's had are simply a result of the concussion that he
suffered from the fall that he took, then that actually is temporary and he,
in theory, will improve from that. So so maybe the wheels aren't
really coming off with Mitch. But when it's someone where you can see the
wheels are coming off, you gotta say that's it. They need to go.
And that's my point, and sorry to have to say it, but
this is something we have to confront. All Right, we are about out
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