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Victor Nuno of Dabber Prospects. Victor, how you doing today? I'm doing

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great, Jesse, definitely excited,
engaging in draft season and trying to keep

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all my draft straight and generally unhappy
with most of them. So I think

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that's usually how it goes. It
certainly does. That is exactly what happens

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to us in draft season, Victor. Draft season is chaos for the likes

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of you and me right now,
because all the drafts happen at once and

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everything is just flying every which way. And I have a feeling I'm going

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to wake up, like in a
week and find out who I drafted and

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say, really, that is that
the team I drafted? I don't remember

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that team at all. But that's
okay, Victor. We like talking about

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fantasy hockey. We like talking about
all kinds of different teams, and today

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we've got a We've got a Canadian
one to talk about a lot of Canadian

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ones in this little stretch of our
thirty two team preview series, and this

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one happens to be on the Calgary
Flames. I don't know, man,

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that's up in Cowboy Country, right, you gotta go up to ride the

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horse up to the Calgary Flames.
Are you a big Are you big Calgary

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Flames watcher? No? Not really. They were really difficult to watch last

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year, but they had some interesting
prospects. It was fun. It was

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fun to see some Peltier, It
was fun to see Coronado, and obviously

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they have some They have Dustin Wolf
on the way, Jorrier, they have

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some interesting guys and they were just
so bad undersutter. I am interesting to

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watch them next year because I think
are going to be much different. So

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definitely excited for that. We're sure, Victor, if people want to talk

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Victor, it's time to talk Calgary
Flames. We're gonna take a brief

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break, come back and do us
that. We are pleased to be joined

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today by Randy Sportac of The Hockey
News. Ready to talk a little bit

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of Calgary Flames. How you doing, Randy, I'm doing well. It's

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a lovely day. You've been following
these Flames for an awful long time.

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How far back do you go with
this franchise? Just out of curiosity?

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Wow, the young gun zero.
It's funny players I covered, it's now

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their kids are getting drafted playing in
the league. Guys like Corey Stillman's kids

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and Danny Goce's son got drafted this
year. Yeah, I'm just starting to

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feel my age. I got you. I'm with you there, man,

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I'm with you there. I don't
know this team may have aged you even

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more last year because it wasn't the
smoothest year for your Calgary Flames, and

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it really didn't work out as well
as I think many would have hoped,

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or many would have reasonably expected.
The last Flame season offseason was really about

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losing Johnny Goodreaux, trading Sean Monahan
and the great big elephant in the room

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Matt Kachuck. Now the NHL superstar
Darling advertised during the playoffs, it seems

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to Jonathan Huberto McKenzie weaker trade in
the overall picture, I think you could

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say that the Flames laying it in
the middle in the NHL, just short

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of the playoffs, but the way
they did it was strange. The second

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most shot but the worst shooting in
the NHL. That was not a great

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combo, although contradictory combo, the
third few of shots against, but a

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bottom tense save percentage. They were
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stat where you add up the shooting
percentage and say, maybe that is a

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good sign for the future. Now
they have a new coach, a new

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GM and most of the coverage I
read on the Flame seems to center around

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how best to leverage, trading away
maybe some of those other better players and

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get themselves even better position for the
future. But one piece of general narrative

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around the team is they didn't give
younger players as much of a chance under

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the prior administration. Was it a
lack of luck last year? A lack

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of good vibes coming from this team, were a lack of horsepower that led

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to the fall? And what do
you think we should expect for the coming

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season last year? I think it
was a lack of everything. They just

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the wheels seemed to fall off about
a month in and they never really recovered,

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and it really was an underperforming team. When you think of the talent

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level, it wasn't. Yes,
they did take a dip in talent,

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losing good Droll and Kachuck, Don't
get me wrong, that was a noticeable

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thing. But it just everything just
snowballed and it was a bizarre season,

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Like how many times did they outshoot
a team by ten shots and still lose?

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Now, I think, and this
is where shots and your core see

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numbers and all this there's a bit
of a misnomer because, let's be honest,

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a flicked shot from the blue line
where you hope there's traffic and you

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hope there's a deflection that's not really
a scoring chance. They were very high

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in those low percentage shots, so
that doesn't help. Then I know it.

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Near the end of the year,
I talked to Daryl Sutter just we

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were chatting, and he said he
was even couldn't quite grasp how when it

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came to scoring chances, they're scoring
chances against were extremely low. He said,

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we're better than we were last year, but they would just give up

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fire drill scoring chances where it was
tappens, so they'd give up two or

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three of those. They didn't get
the saves that one great save, and

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then they couldn't score. It was
just it was a really strange year from

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a team that things went off the
rails. Then they really went off the

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rails. Then he had players not
liking the coach, and hey, I

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was around Darryl Sutter's first iteration as
coach. I get it. I could

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understand how that would get on your
nerves. So they everything just went sideways,

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and there was it was just like
watching a plane crash. Yeah,

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I'm sorry that we're starting out depressing. That's fine. I was there.

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I covered them in the Young Guns
era. I was there, like Jerome

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mcginlan. Nobody else was there.
I get it. I've seen bad seasons.

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This was actually almost an interesting season
because you sat there and you went,

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what's going on? Because yes,
they're not. This was not the

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Colorado Avalanche of talent or the Vegas
Golden Knights of talent, but there's still

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talent. And you watched Jonathan Huberto
just he to his credit, I think

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he actually was trying to play the
way they wanted to play, but he's

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not played that way. Nasim Codre
up until the All Star Game was played

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fantastic, and then his play just
nosediving. They struggled getting offense from the

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defense. Then when they start turning
it around, Rasmus Anderson, who's I

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think one of the more underrated defensemen
in the NHL, is riding a scooter

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in Detroit and gets hit by a
car like that. There's an example of

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just how wacky this season got.
Mark Strom couldn't make a save. It

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just the weirdest things went wrong.
Victor and I thought that Elias Lindholm would

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be about the fortieth best fantasy hockey
forward, and it was actually the thirty

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six. It was very respectable,
but twenty two goals and forty assists in

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eighty games sounds just reasonable middle classy. The assists were consistent from his prior

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year, but the drop from forty
two to twenty two goals was the big

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difference. Shots were not going in
for Elias astoundingly. That was with the

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exact same ten power play goals and
one shorthanded goal. It was the drop

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from thirty one to eleven even strength
goals that dropped his production line. Expected

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even strength goal rate barely flinched and
running the numbers per sixty. I ran

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the numbers and really it did not
change all that much in terms of the

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expected goal rate when he was on
the ice at least, but his individual

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obviously dropped the results dropped. He's
been in Calgary for five years now,

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been in the top three on the
team and scoring all five years, very

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consistent. Nazim Khadri last year is
actually the only player on the team currently

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who has finished in the top three
in scoring in Calgary during a year.

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Like Elias, Lindholme is the consistent
guy. Received Selkie votes four of his

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five years on the team. What
do you expect from his age twenty nine

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season, Could he have a good
progression from his goal scoring la to pop

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back up or what do you think
of Lindholme's here. I do think not

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having Johnny Goodrow would that's a factor, right, like he is said,

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And the funny thing is, I'll
do a little segue here. People talk

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about his Lindholme's falloff and all the
falloff in Calgary. Look at Johnny Goodrow's

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fall off. Right, You've got
super an uber talented guy. But in

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Columbus he didn't have the uber talented
teammates. Patrick Lyney was constantly heard all

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that other stuff, how Algy really
talented guys, But Johnny Goodrow is just

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one of those guys that will set
you up for the tap in talies and

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these great passes. So they lacked
that. I think that is a big

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factor with Lyndholm. First off,
what's he doing from a contract perspective,

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because I think he's I think a
lot of players, if they stay here,

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would have bounced back years because just
just go back to the medium,

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right the issue and there's a danger
with this team if these guys all bounce

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back years but don't resign long term
and you're looking at some seriously talented players

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who become UFAs. What do you
do? And that's that, to me

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is the biggest danger of this team. If they become a playoff team and

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they know Lindholm's not going to resign, they know Hanaffin's not going to resign,

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and the list goes on after that. You've got back lind You've got

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Tanev Zatorov, Oliver Shillington. That's
some very skilled guys. Do you just

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say, you know what? I
think they're best off to pull the rip

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card and rebuilt, just tear it
down. The problem is can you do

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that with the ownership has been very
reticent at the thought of that. So

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I think anybody who's willing to make
a deal for Elias Lindholm sign a long

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term, they're going to get a
very good player, probably I think another

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underrated player from a perspective. He's
a very smart hockey player. I don't

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know if he's a hundred point player
or eight five point player and ninety five

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point player, but he is a
seventy five to eighty point player who can

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play in all scenarios and what do
they say a coach's dream, right,

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you put them out. You know
what, You're gonna get a game after

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game, and I expect a better
season. I just don't know where it's

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going to end in what city.
Yeah, for sure, that could be

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a definite swing for Lindholm. Next
up, we will talk about Jonathan Hubertou

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because there's not a problem with Jonathan
Hubertou is sticking around. He's he has

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signed for a very long time.
I think I've six more years or eight

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more years. At eight more years
of kicks in this year. Yeah,

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the extension kicks in for ten point
five million per year, So there's not

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gonna be a problem keeping Huberto around. Now his contract could impact some others,

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and boy, this was rough this
year. He was second in the

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NHL in points as recently as twenty
one twenty two with one hundred and fifteen

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his first year in Calgary. The
number dropped by more than fifty percent to

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fifty five points. His shots per
game dropped from nearly three to one point

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five. Even his hits dropped from
ninety nine to sixty five. Yes,

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every player, by definition, has
a career best year, so maybe you

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just have to say twenty one twenty
two was the career year for Huberto and

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we can't expect him to do that
every year. But the move could be

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blamed for the production, but still
it was so dramatic. What do you

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think explains what happened with Jonathan Hubertou
last year and how much is he going

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to be able to turn it around
in twenty three twenty four. I think

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it was a bit multifaceted power.
He wanted to play a different style than

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he was used to, more structure, more discipline. He, let's be

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honest, Florida didn't exactly play Sutter
style hockey. He couldn't probably be further

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from it, right, So I
think that was a factory and to his

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credit, I had to ask people
about this and they said he is legitimately

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trying to play within the system and
figuring out how his game works in a

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system. But he looked very lost. You've always seen a player where you

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just know that there they start doing
the wrong thing or it doesn't work out

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and they don't know how to recover. And I saw a guy that would

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he'd make a play, the guy
wouldn't be where he figured he'd be,

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or he'd do a pass that someone
should be there is not there, and

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You could just see his mind going
what is going on? So then of

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course he gets in the downroad spiral
all those other things. Now, I

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do think there's another element to it. He's not a fast skater, and

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I asked a scout and they said, hey, a big factor is you

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know, say what you want about
Anthony Declare had the speed to push the

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defense back and give him that little
bit of space. That's the Johnny Goodrow

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thing, right, he had that
little He wasn't the fastest skater, but

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he was quick, right, and
you see the defenseman back off and that

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buys him that little bit of time. Declaire would buy Hubert that little bit

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of time where he could thread the
pass because the lane wasn't whereas he didn't

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have fast guys with him to clear
that. Just to give that split second

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of space for him to thread a
pass that would have worked. So I

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think it's multifacetating. He's a guy
that really works better. He needs a

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speed demon or at least somebody to
push back the defense and that wasn't happening,

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so that was closing lanes. And
then again the spiral happens, right

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the guy saw. It's like sports
psychologists, this summer, he is trying

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to figure out a way to make
his game work. I know the team

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is. They know what they've invested, so they've spent a lot of time

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trying to help him come back with
a better frame of mind. And I

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think that's I think he's another real
he's a candidate for a bounce back here

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because he couldn't really have him a
worse here. But I do think he's

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legitimately trying to come with a better
attitude and a better mindset and more sense

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of the game. He did play
fairly well down the stretch, but certainly

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not to the level everyone expects.
Now, hey, you're a ten point

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five million dollar player, we won't
get it. We can get into that

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conversation. I always think that's stupid
to invest if your best player as a

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winger. It's just not a long
term perspective, because I saw it here

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better than anybody with Jerome mcginla.
He's gonna come back, but they know

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they've got to get him to come
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Yeah, it makes sense. No, let's talk about Nazam Kadri.

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We've also we already mentioned him a
little bit, and we knew that he

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was going to regress from the hundred
point season in Colorado. So many things

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went right for him that year and
it was such a fantastic team. But

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I think he was pretty in line
this past season from what he did previous

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to that one hundred point season.
He's been a mid fifty point player,

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fifty to fifty five ish, and
that's where he was, and he tends

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to dish out a decent number of
hit some blocks, and do some of

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those things that we love in fantasy, and he did those things. He

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had twenty four points, twenty four
goals and thirty to assist for five d

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six points, and he played all
eighty two and had nineteen power play points,

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so that's good. And we'd track
block shots hits. He was thirty

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four at that position, so that's
pretty good. He got six years left

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at seven million, and overall,
I think he shot two percent under his

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career norm, but had a pretty
low individual points participation. I think that

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there's some positive regression coming Cadre's way. I think the big question is does

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he have enough talent around him to
play on his line. I guess that's

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my main question for him in terms
of what he can do. But do

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you think that there's some positive regression
coming Cadre's way there? Randy Was he

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actually had fantastic first half of the
season, and I wish sometimes these guys

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would be fully honest. I can't
help but think his hand was still an

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issue through the season, and the
fatigue factor of going all the way in

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the playoffs the year before. Then
He's got gets signed, moves, all

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these things, and it was almost
I think it is a point he just

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wore down and he, I believe, really did struggle playing with Sutter.

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He was It was an interesting season. I don't know if he's as good

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a player as he's getting paid to
be. But that's the danger of signing

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guys as a free agent, because
then, hey, he had this season

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and he was in this Colorado team. Could you have been in a better

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situation as a second line center in
Colorado two seasons ago? God, what

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a dream? And look at the
Avalanche. They're desperately trying to the praying

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Matt duchane Is can replicate, right. I think he came with expectations things

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happen, and I honestly think he
just crashed. I don't think he played

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particularly the final third of the season, even when they were really making their

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push. So he just he didn't
have it anymore. He's at an age

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where you're going to question can he
bounce back to very well, Like he's

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just it's all at that point.
And this is where this team has been

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a weird situation. They've been tested
in two veteran players who are thirties around

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the situation, right, And if
they lose all these other guys, they're

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going to have these two guys on
these long term deals and a whole bunch

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of question marks. So Duchane in
Dallas, I think you were confusing maybe

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the two Nashville guys who left and
Ryan Johansson being in Colorado. But I

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think your point is very valid that
Colorado is struggling to find a replacement for

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Nasam Cadre, who was so good
there, right, and they're not able

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to really find the equivalent for what
he did there, And I think there's

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maybe some potential for his improvement,
right, Yeah, yeah, that's I

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think with Cadre he can have a
better full season. I just don't know

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what his capability is. And let's
be honest, if they trade Alias Lentholme,

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and Michael Backland is not a first
line center. He's a very good

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third line center. Nasam Cadre is
going to have to be the first line

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center, so he's gonna obviously then
that would mean more opportunity. But I

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just think he's We're going to see
where he really is in historically where he

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is he's I think that season in
Colorado was such a fantastic season. I

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think last season started out great.
I don't think he's even going to I

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don't think he'd replicate over a full
season what he did the first sixty percent

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of last season over the long term
basis, maybe, but I don't see

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it. I think it's just I
always look at guys, they just come

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back down to the watermark, right. Everyone's gonna have a great season.

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Everyone's gonna have a really bad season, and where you find him is where

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they generally end up. And that's
where I see Nasam Kadri And hopefully he

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has a better mindset and some rest
of the full off season and plays a

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little better game. Like you said, Michael Backland is not a star.

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He's not a fantasy star. But
tip of the hat to this guy and

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the evolving hockey model of goals above
replacement. He was actually second on the

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team, behind only Tyler Tuffolio.
Course is not back, but his best

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stats in that category since twenty sixteen
seventeen. He had fifty six points,

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two hundred fifty nine shots, ninety
seven hits, seven hundred and five face

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off wins, all career best.
The thirty four year old Swede wears the

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letter on this team. Mind you, it's an A and has one year

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left at a reasonable five point three
five million dollars. I read in coverage

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on this team that he called Daryl
Sutter's coaching negative leadership last year, But

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I'm a little skeptical that's apparently translated
from Swedish. Who knows what the heck

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that was in the original nuance?
But can Backland follow up his pleasant surprise

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of a year even in that depth
role and could he stick? Is maybe

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the captain of the team passed this
year for that? I think the first

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answer is he's not gonna be captain
if he's not resigned. If he's If

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he's why would you name him a
captain if you're of his time here will

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probably end at the trade deadline.
Kenny, he really had a fantastic season.

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And it wasn't a lucky season either. It was just a really good

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season, and yes, some things
went right, but it wasn't this ridiculous

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twenty two percent shooting percentage type thing, right. I think I think he'll

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regress to some degree from a points
perspective. Again, though, if Elias

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Linholm is traded for, traded away
and they don't replace him, now Backlin

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takes maybe a little even bigger role. I don't know whether he's going to

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ever. It's not like thirty goals
and all this other stuff, but I

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do think you'll be a consistent guy
and he'll probably go back to the mean

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and being forty eight, forty fifty
one points, forty nine points that kind

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of a thing. But he does
give you another solid player who is pretty

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pretty easy maintenance from a coaching perspective, and to his credit, I think

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this is really good because I watched
Michael as a little as a young player

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come into the league, and it's
actually heartening to hear stories of Mackenzie week

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are saying that Michael Backlan would be
the one standing up to Daryl and giving

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the old fu back to him.
That's impressive that to me is leadership,

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and that probably would be why he
should be captain, because if none of

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them else had the let's be honest, the courage to do it, you're

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the leader. Players will go,
you know, and I respect that a

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guy will do that. And hey, I've heard some of the stories about

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what Darryl will say to players,
and I get it. I get why

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players some players were power and I'm
really impressed to hear that Michael's one of

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the few who stood up and said
no, that's wrong. And I heard

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some stories about Joe mcgilla doing that. So that's me is what you have

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to have. I think he's a
captain if he stays, but if he's

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not, he's you're not going to
make him a captain. And when he's

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just not going to be here,
oh yeah, for sure. A couple

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of more of than We've got a
few little depth forwards, not little,

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these aren't little men, but the
few depth awards to cover. We'll do

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him in a little bit more of
a rapid style of points. Pick him.

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Blake Coleman versus Adam Rasiska. Coleman
had thirty eight points last year and

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fifty eighty two games a full eighty
two and thirty one years old. Rasisca

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twenty goals and only forty four games
and about twenty billion healthy scratches and he's

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twenty three years old, So I
think Sutter didn't let him play just every

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night. But which one of these
guys you think is going to be at

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least the better scorer what you have
to say about their seasons. Blake Coleman

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is what he is right at this
point. There's not that he's not going

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to change at all what he is
as a player. So I would just

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I think he is what he is. Rasicht, I can't get a read

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on him. I'd watch him and
you'd see a guy who can he has

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a lot of tools. But then
I'd watch games and you're wondering, is

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this guy even invested in the game. And I think that's the question mark

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with him, that this is going
to be a huge opportunity for him this

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season because this is a team in
flux. Even if they're not rebuilding,

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retooling, whatever word you want to
use, they are in flux. The

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opportunity is there. They've got Matt
Coronado waiting in the wings, and they've

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got Jacob Pelchi is going to take
a bigger role. They've got a couple

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other young players that are just about
ready to jump in. So he's one

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of those guys where if you want
to take it, it's there, so

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take it. But if he doesn't
take it, he might just become a

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guy that meanders around in another couple
of seasons in the NHL and goes back

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to Europe. I see a lot
of talent. I'm just not sure that

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the engine is ready to fire all
the time. So that's my question mark

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on him and another fake either or
here Walker Doer, Igor Sharon Govich.

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Doer played twenty seven games, he's
only twenty five eleven points and Sharon Govich

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he cheaply signed return from New Jersey
for the tyler to fully deal along with

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the pick that became Idar Sunia.
We talked about him on the show.

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Thirty points in seventy five games in
a crowded Jersey lineup or Sharon Gobach,

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which one of those two you got
next year? Oh, Sharon Golvich,

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without a doubt, Walker Doer to
me is a perfect fourth line winger.

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Maybe plays on your third line,
Sharon Golvich, Let's be honest. They

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traded Tyler to fully for him,
right, that's the return. They're going

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to give him all the opportunity in
the world to bounce back. It's the

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a thirty goal scorer. I'm not
sure, but they're going to give him

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opportunity. And he says all the
right things, like he did get pushed

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down on a really talented New Jersey
team. He was the odd man out

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that got pushed further and further down. So he knows he's coming to a

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place that wants to give him an
opportunity. I just think I think he's

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a bounce back from last season.
I'm not sure hit the mark that he

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had a couple of seasons ago.
Maybe he doesn't, but I from a

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perspective of who's going to be potentially
on a second line, it's no doubt.

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Sharon Golvich and I want to ask
you a little bit about some of

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the younger guys. You already mentioned
them, and those are Kickab Peltier and

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Matt Coronado. And Peltier is someone
we've been waiting on for a while.

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He's twenty two years old. He's
been in the HL for a couple of

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seasons and he's performed really well there. I know Flames fans have probably wanted

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him maybe break in a little earlier
than he did, but he got twenty

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four games last season. I don't
think he got the best deployment. But

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for my eye, he looked pretty
good when he was out there. And

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Coronado, who's just done really well
at Harvard and he's a pretty highly touted

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prospect, and I think he played, he got a game, I think

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it was just one game in and
he looked really good. For my eye,

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I was like, really impressed with
what I saw. So what do

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you think this season holds for these
two? Like you said, more opportunities,

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certainly there should we expect to seal
a bit more of them. Oh,

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I think so. But they're going
to come into camp not necessarily a

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job's not going to be handed to
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But I think both of them are
at that point in their career where they're

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able to take it. They'll be
the ones. I think they know how

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to take the chair right in the
whole musical chairs. Coronado might need some

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time in the minors. I think
Peliche is more likely to be a full

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time NHLer. I see the upside
on Coronado though he has a fantastic release.

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He really does to his credit.
He came to the prospects camp and

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he was a legitimate leader throughout the
whole prospects camp. You could watch him.

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He was the best player on the
ice. He was guiding things,

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he was driving things, and so
I could see the upside on him.

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I just I think Pelchas a little
is older. He's just a little more

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prepared, and he plays a very
responsible game. That was the real shocker

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to me on watching Jacob Pelicher as
a rookie in the NHL who a lot

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of points in junior all that stuff. He plays on the right side of

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the puck, and that's going to
a coach is always going to give a

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guy that he and trust, isn't
going to give up the ten bell scoring

406
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:06,839
chants the other way. Coronado one
game is awfully hard to tell, but

407
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:10,359
I like the upside on both.
I think they're penciled in to be in

408
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,480
the NHL all season, but let's
be honest, the play has to dictate

409
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:18,400
that with them at a certain point, right. So I like the potential

410
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,079
of both of them, and they
play opposite wings. I'm not sure you

411
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,880
really want to have two rookies on
the same wing, but hey, why

412
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:29,240
the hell not. This team has
to find some new injection of youth of

413
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,440
energy, and they are going to
give these two both a really golden chance.

414
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,799
Now it's just going to be up
to them to make the most of

415
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:41,160
it. For sure. Yeah,
for sure, they both are going to

416
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,440
get opportunity, which is great.
That's all you can ask for, and

417
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,119
then they have to take it.
Let's move on to the D and we're

418
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:51,119
going to start, of course with
Rasmus Anderson, who Jesse and I were

419
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,839
pretty split on last season. I
saw more as a top tier guy and

420
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,240
Jesse has a third tier guy,
and I thought of More as about being

421
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,039
about the forty fifth best defenceman.
Jesse sixty eight. He ended up at

422
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:04,200
thirty five, So he got performed
for both of us. And on the

423
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,839
surface, it looks like his stats
were copy paste from the previous fifty point

424
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,920
season, but his fifty one points
this season was fueled by a shooting percentage

425
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,359
three percent above his career average and
nearly two more minutes of time on ice.

426
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:22,799
His IP and power play IP were
both the highest of his career so

427
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,599
eleven goals thirty eight assists were how
he got to his forty nine points in

428
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,759
those fifty one games with twenty one
power play points, which was pretty similar

429
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:36,400
to what he did last season.
And he does decent for hits, block

430
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400
shots seventy first of his position,
so not a ton. But I remember

431
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,359
when he signed his contract thinking like
that's going to age pretty well, And

432
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,480
now four point five five million for
your top d he's looking pretty good.

433
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,440
When you look around the league,
there's a whole lot of teams that have

434
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,799
a lot more invested in their top
defenceman. So what do you think about

435
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,920
Rasmus Anderson's fifty point pace? Is
it here to stay or is he potentially

436
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,839
going to regress under that line this
upcoming I actually think that's what he is

437
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,440
as a player. I think he
is maybe not fifty every year, but

438
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,720
he's certainly to me a forty five
to fifty five point guy. He's a

439
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:14,559
very good skater, He's a very
strong skater. Another factor to think about

440
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:18,200
if they trade away they've got Noah
Hannah Fan, Chris Tannev and Nikida Zadarov

441
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,880
are all pending ufhas, especially if
Hannah Fan is traded away, Anderson most

442
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,319
likely, depending on what they bring
back in a trade, is most likely

443
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:34,319
to get even more ice time.
I think Anderson really is a very how

444
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,559
do I put it, I think
he's I'm not sure he's legitimately a number

445
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:42,200
one defenseman. I don't even know
if he's legitimately a number two, but

446
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,279
I think he's a very good number
three papable of being a number two.

447
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,359
He's got a bomb of a slap
shot. Like I from the point,

448
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,559
he has an unbelievably bomb slap shot. I think he's a fifty point guy,

449
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,519
and he potentially I don't know if
he's going to get more ice time,

450
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,720
but with Hanaffin, he's going to
get more opportunity that until that situation

451
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:08,400
is resolved, And let's be honest, I don't expect Noah Hanaffan to be

452
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,319
here much longer, certainly not by
the end of the season. I think

453
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,680
he's going to get so Anderson therefore
is likely to take a bigger role,

454
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,160
and he's going to take a bigger
role with the team as well, because

455
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,319
just of the transition of players going
out. Chris Tanev, like I said,

456
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:30,480
Tanev, if he's a UFA.
I can't see sticking him sticking around

457
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,519
for a team that's potentially rebuilding because
he's his play to me is the type

458
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,960
that's going to break down. He's
just age and he plays such a hard,

459
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,119
physical game. Fantastic player, but
at a certain point teams need to

460
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,759
be a little smarter about investing in
players who are going to miss thirty games

461
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,079
a season at least. I actually
also expect Mackenzie Weaker to have a better

462
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,920
season as well. He seemed to
get his game going down the stretch and

463
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:58,720
admitted that it took him a while
to really get his feet under him as

464
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,799
well. But to the answer,
I think grass Anderson is a fifty point

465
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:06,599
guy. Let's talk about those other
two in a little more death. Randy

466
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,279
Noah Hannapin is first and the number
five overall pick. Finished his eighth campaign

467
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,920
very respectably, played eighty one games
with half a point per game. I

468
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:21,240
count only twenty total miss games in
this guy's career. Half of those were

469
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,839
in the COVID year too, So
Hannapin incredibly durable. Played twenty two thirty

470
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,559
nine average time and ice last year, a career high by more than a

471
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:31,640
minute. Big jumping block shots from
a block to a block and a half

472
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,440
a game, and as you said, expiring deal in obviously a lot of

473
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,599
the coverages about him moving. He
does have an eight team no trade list,

474
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,680
which is always the most fun of
who is the no trade list for

475
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,119
this guy? Who did he put
on the list? And all strategic?

476
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,359
Was he all of Canada? Is
that what? It is? Just Winnipeg.

477
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,400
I'm just being a bit snarky,
but that's he doesn't want to play

478
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,799
in a lot of Canadian cities,
which isn't and he wouldn't be alone.

479
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,519
Let's be honest, like, I
bet you anybody who has a no trade

480
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,199
list, the most likely CDs are
going to be Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary

481
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,559
and probably Ottawa. Let's like,
let's be real, right for financial reasons

482
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,360
if nothing else, I give love
to your cities. Rand Yeah, I

483
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,360
don't know. But anyway, So
at Hannipen, you think he's gonna be

484
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,199
gone this year? You think while
he's here he's going to be performing as

485
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,400
well as he did last year.
He was the forty fourth overall fantasy defenseman.

486
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,239
That's about where Victor had him.
I had less respect for him once

487
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,119
again, but what do you think
of Hannipon for this year. I think

488
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,760
he's a really good player. I
think he's a very constantly What he has

489
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,400
done in the past, I think
is he's such a consistent player he'll stay

490
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:50,079
that he's personally. I think there's
more offensive upside. But I also I

491
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:54,239
know when he came here they really
tried to what's the phrase, quiet his

492
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,639
game, make him less running around. He's such a great skater. He's

493
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,519
a very good player. But I
think he's at the point in his career

494
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:07,559
where you know what he's pretty much
what he is and he's got he has

495
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:14,800
several more years of being that player. I the Flames would love to sign

496
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,760
him Analyn Holme long term. They
would love to keep those guys because they

497
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:24,079
are legitimate, good, very good
players that key players on a good team.

498
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,719
But it takes two to tango right. If they don't want to sign,

499
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,840
what do you do? And any
team that gets Noah Hanaffin, in

500
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:39,800
my opinion, is getting a very
good number two slash three defensemen that is

501
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:46,480
very good defensively now very just very
consistent, and that's what he is.

502
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,880
I wouldn't expect the numbers to change
a whole lot, because that's what he

503
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,800
is, and he's pretty good at
it. I've already said. Victor pointed

504
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,360
out, I didn't have the proper
respect Anderson coming into the season. I

505
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,960
didn't have the proper respect for Hannafin. That's because all of my respect was

506
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,320
concentrated on McKenzie Wieger. I think
coming into the year, especially from a

507
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,559
fantasy perspective, I had him as
my twelfth overall defenceman for this year.

508
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:15,199
He actually finished down at twenty sixth. Victor was a little closer at eighteenth

509
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,599
with him, but he did put
up the points. He put up thirty

510
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:22,559
one points in eighty one games,
two shots, one and a half blocks,

511
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:24,440
two and a half hits a game, So for us fantasy types,

512
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,360
he's just fine. Twenty one oh
six was more than two minutes per game

513
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:34,000
down from that last year in Florida, And of course Wigger needs to be

514
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,079
more than just okay to justify the
third largest contract on the team. He

515
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:42,760
signed an extension last preseason, also
kicks in this year and last eight years

516
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,239
six point two five million per until
he is thirty seven years old. What

517
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,639
do you make of Whigger's first year
in Calgary and could he get a touch

518
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:54,199
more of the offensive juice back that
he had in Florida's he pretty firmly buried

519
00:36:54,599 --> 00:37:00,559
behind the Anderson's and so forth of
the world. Now, I think it

520
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:05,039
would depend if Hanafin stays, then
he things won't change a whole lot Hanafin

521
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,800
goes again. It's this is all
going to be predicated on what happens from

522
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,000
trades, right. They know they're
going to try to replace. I don't

523
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,639
think this team wants to tear it
down, even though I truly believe that's

524
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,320
the best course of action. Right. But I think Weiger is a better

525
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,519
player on a hole over a course
of season than he was last year.

526
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,119
He was a guy that he admitted
it took him a while to get comfortable.

527
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,599
It took him a while to get
acclimatized. Let's be honest. A

528
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:36,760
season in Calgary in a season in
Florida, just from the weather perspective,

529
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,320
is a shock to the system.
He did play better down the stretch.

530
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,960
He probably was. His best twenty
games were probably the final twenty games.

531
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:50,119
And is it fair to say a
good chunk of his points came down the

532
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,199
stretch. I think he's a better
defenseman as a whole of the whole season,

533
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,800
and Willie had the same impact as
he had in Florida. That's hard

534
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,480
to tell, because again, that
season in Florida was a bit of a

535
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,199
not a misnomers the wrong word,
but they were the top team in the

536
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,239
league. They put up a ton
of goals, a lot at home,

537
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,039
but they played a style that you
knew was going to struggle come playoff time,

538
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:19,119
and it did and they ran into
a very good team. I think

539
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,320
Wager will go back somewhat to what
he was the year before. I don't

540
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,480
think he's It's like huber Dough,
It's not going to be the player he

541
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:32,320
was in that crazy, fantastic season
in Florida. But I think somewhere in

542
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,079
the middle between that season and this
past season in Calgary with both of them.

543
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,239
One more defense when I want to
ask you about, and that is

544
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,760
Jeremy Poirier. And I know we
can't really know who's gonna be blocking him

545
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,199
potentially in the lineup, but I
just wanted him to get your read on

546
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,440
him because he's someone who you know
when he was playing in junior and I

547
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,840
watched him play some games, it
was such an adventure. There was not

548
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,199
a lot of defensive times really excellent
offense, But then he seems like he

549
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,039
figured some things out, and this
year in the HL he was excellent and

550
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,880
he seems like he's almost ready to
take the next step. I would not

551
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,280
have guessed that a couple of years
ago. So I'm wondering, from your

552
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,039
perspective, just what your thoughts on
him. Does he seem as on track,

553
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:17,119
does the organization seem to value and
like him as much? And will

554
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:22,039
he get an opportunity soon? I'm
not sure if he's in an each other

555
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:25,760
this season, he's they have eight
guys on one way deals. Now Braids

556
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:32,280
could change that in a hurry,
right. I think he's better defensively than

557
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,280
he was, but he still has
a bit of a way to go.

558
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,559
Let's he's not Sandis Ozolnch, where
the coach is trying to figure out where

559
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:42,000
he is on the ice. But
I watched the game with the Wranglers and

560
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:46,239
he was I'm watching, going wow, is this guy fantastic defense? Offensively?

561
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,719
And then I watched him in his
zone zone and it was like,

562
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,800
oh, there's a bit of an
issue. And then even some of his

563
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,519
offensive chances like he's standing in front
of the NAD right in the offensive Zonely,

564
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,000
fortunately he's a decent enough skater to
get back, but at a certain

565
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:04,800
point you're thinking that's just not gonna
fly. You're not Scott Niedermeyer here,

566
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,639
kid. He I think they believe
he took a big step forward, but

567
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,239
he needs to take another step forward
and they're not going to rush him,

568
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,840
and they shouldn't rush him, right
get Let him learn the game, let

569
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,920
him learn being a defenseman. And
the good thing about Calgary is the farm

570
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,960
team's right here. So if you
need him to pop up because of injuries,

571
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:28,960
that's easy to do. But I
just don't see him being a full

572
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,039
time NHL or this season, or
I'll be surprised we placed more than twenty

573
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:37,360
games in the NHL this season.
If he does. I think there's been

574
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,880
some seriously mitigating factors. But I
do believe they believe he's on track.

575
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,000
He just needs to learn to be
a little more of a defensive player,

576
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,199
and he knows, he flat out
knows that's what he actually has to concentrate.

577
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,039
I think the words he said to
me in the prospects camp, which

578
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:55,320
he didn't go on the ice because
he had had knee surgery, but he

579
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,119
said, I can play offensively,
I need to be focus. My sole

580
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:07,119
focus is my biggest focus is learning
to be defensive. Yeah, he reminds

581
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,920
me a little bit of Ryan Merkley
back in the day, and I remember

582
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,239
there were some similarities there Merkley as
someone who's basically played his way out of

583
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,079
the league. Right he's going over
to play in the KHL, So I

584
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:21,719
think that's strong kudos for Poirier knows
what he needs to do and he's working

585
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,960
on it. So you love to
see that, right, that's all you

586
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,159
can ask for. But yeah,
probably not this year, although he may

587
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,159
get some looks. You'd never know, but that's great to see. Let's

588
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:34,199
move over to the goalies, and
the Flames gave up the eighth ranked expected

589
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,800
goals against per sixty according to Evolving
Hockey, but conceded the fourteenth actual goals,

590
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,440
So they were much worse than they
should have been based on their defense.

591
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,199
And we know it was a tough
season for mark Strom. There had

592
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:51,760
been previous really good seasons and he
was pretty negative in terms of his goals

593
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,440
save above expected negative six point seven
six. He also had a negative Delta

594
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,519
Fenwick save percentage, which was not
good. He had a sub nine hundred

595
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:05,360
save percentage overall and pretty high goals
against average. Really a down year.

596
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,079
Six three years left on this six
million dollars contract, and basically, anywhere

597
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:12,239
you cut it, he was pretty
bad. Except I guess shorthanded he was

598
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,440
actually pretty good. But I don't
know. It seems like there was a

599
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:21,360
lack of confidence by himself and and
potentially and center of the team. There

600
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,000
were so many things that went wrong. I personally think there's going to be

601
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:27,519
a big bounce back here for Jacob
Marksham. I'm not sure how you feel

602
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,840
about that, Renny, But what
do you think we can expect from him

603
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,119
coming up? Don't? I don't
think he could be any worse than he

604
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,119
was last season. He just was
not good. I think you watch this

605
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:44,559
team and they gave up some horrific
scoring chances, just ridiculous that you wonder

606
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:47,639
did these guys even have a sense
of where their own net is at times?

607
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,760
But you got to make some of
those saves he didn't make. He

608
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,519
basically didn't make any of those saves. But I think he'll be better.

609
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:01,960
How do I put this? Someone
told me that him having an He became

610
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,400
a father late in the season and
someone told me that was actually quite a

611
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,119
bit on his mind, and hey
became a first time father. That was

612
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,920
I don't I said, was there
issues with the pregnancy and they said,

613
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,280
oh no, he's just always just
something that's on his mind. He played

614
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,480
better once the baby was born,
and but that was it was just too

615
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:24,920
late. I think he'll bounce back. I don't think he's a Vezana goalie,

616
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,280
but I think he's a better goalie. He shouldn't be. He shouldn't

617
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,920
be where he was. And the
fact of the matter is they didn't get

618
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,519
the great goal. They didn't even
get excellent goaltending out of Dan Ladar as

619
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:40,880
the backup either, So they were
it was that perfect storm. They weren't

620
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,199
very good defensively despite not giving up
a lot of shots, and then they

621
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,159
weren't getting the big saves when they
needed it most. Probably that's probably the

622
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,880
fairest way to put it. Yeah, I was gonna ask you a little

623
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,519
bit about Ladar, but I was
gonna I also want to ask about the

624
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:00,280
Big Bad dust and Wolf because I
love this kid. He's one of my

625
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,360
favorite prospect goalies and he's just been
absolutely killing it at every level. He

626
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,280
fell in the draft because he's a
little bit on the smaller side, but

627
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,079
all he's done is prove it pretty
much at every step of the way,

628
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:14,039
including being just too good for the
HL basically at this point, and he

629
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,840
really needs to take a step if
you look at what the Flames have ahead

630
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,480
of him. Obviously, mark Strom
is being paid to be the starter,

631
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:23,239
and Vlodard's has been good in the
past, even though, like you said,

632
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,400
he wasn't that great, And two
point two million isn't a nothing contract

633
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,639
for a backup, So I'm not
sure there's a ton of room for a

634
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,400
wolf, but I would love to
see him, and I'm eager to hear

635
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,039
what you think he has in terms
of opportunity this year and kind of beyond.

636
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,920
The nice thing their situation is they
don't have to make him in the

637
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:47,000
NHL goaltender. He's got another year
without waivers, so it's easy to set.

638
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:51,559
You can send him down, you
can tell him to dominate again in

639
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:53,519
the HL. It's going to be
a different team for them this year too.

640
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,360
That was a very strong AHL team
he was playing on. Now he

641
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,559
deservedly was the top goalie in the
AHL. It pretty impressive, like he's

642
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:07,000
been named the top goalie is last
four seasons, two in the WHL,

643
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,519
two in the HL. How many
goals have done that, especially a seventh

644
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:14,599
round draft pick. We're not talking
a guy that was taken first overall.

645
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,440
Here. They do not want to
push him, and they don't have to

646
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,679
push him. If mark Strom has
any form of a bounce back here and

647
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,960
it all goes well and he plays
in the minors, it's not a lost

648
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:30,119
year because they're going to be an
AHL team that needs him to be a

649
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:35,360
top goalie for them to be a
playoff team and all those other elements.

650
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:39,679
But they know this is a last
chance of that, and then he's got

651
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:44,719
to get bounced into the NHL.
He's still I think he's a fantastic goalie.

652
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,119
I love watching him play too.
I was a goalie, not a

653
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:51,079
very good one and even smaller than
him, but he is the kind of

654
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:57,079
goalie that would generate momentum because he's
a goalie. And let me put it

655
00:45:57,159 --> 00:45:59,880
this, how do I say this? I remember talking to Jay Boys.

656
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:04,159
I know everyone thinks Jay Bomestre wouldn't
speak. He was an interesting guy and

657
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:07,519
we were talking about Mika Kippersoft and
he said, so many goalies in the

658
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:13,400
NHL are blockers. Mika's a goalie
because he's so athletic. He moves,

659
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,360
Dustin Wolf plays. He's a goalie
because he has to be. He can't

660
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,400
just sit there and let everything hit
him. Fans will fall in love with

661
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,639
him, and he'll make those sprawling
saves and all those things that will make

662
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:31,840
people generate momentum, and it's actually
I believe will help the team because they

663
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,079
see this goalie making these saves and
with this he's a fantastic athlete and it

664
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:42,519
just builds momentum. But I think
another year in the HL is definitely not

665
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:46,880
going to kill him. It's definitely
gonna be good for him. And if

666
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,039
you have injuries, he's right there. You can bring him up. You

667
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:52,639
can bring him down and send him
down. It's so simple to do.

668
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:57,000
They're not going to force him.
I believe they have been trying to trade

669
00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:00,360
the blood dar to give him the
opportunity. They're not. They don't need

670
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,400
to give danv La Dart away and
throw in a draft pick to open the

671
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,039
slot because they don't have to open
the slot. So I think that's one

672
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:13,599
that they're just going to let play
out over the whole season. Premendous.

673
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,800
This is great insight on the Flames, Randy. Why don't you let people

674
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,559
know how they can follow your work
out there, in which you may have

675
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:23,599
cooking right now. I guess seasons
are vote to get going here. I've

676
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:28,480
been enjoying a bit of summertime,
but yeah, we're gonna start building up

677
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:32,039
things and players are rolling into town
pretty soon catching up. So with the

678
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:35,760
hockey news, I'll be trying to
catch up guys, and I know where

679
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,239
they skate, so I'll probably head
my way down there. And I think

680
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,320
what you're going to see as a
lot of players coming in with a fresh

681
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:49,960
attitude, fresh atmosphere. New coach
Ryan Huska's not Darryl Sutter as opposed to

682
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,559
the last time they replaced Darryl Sutter
with Jim Playfair, who players were calling

683
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,719
Darryl Jr. Ryan's going to be
a different guy. They've got a different

684
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,880
atmosphere with Craig Conroy as a GM. Not that Bradford Living was a dour

685
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,320
guy or anything, but I think
there's gonna be a lot of fresh atmosphere

686
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,360
guys, refreshed, happy, looking
forward to the season. The fact of

687
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,880
the matter is if they keep the
gang together, I believe they're a playoff

688
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,000
team. Let's be honest. They
did finish ahead of the Florida Panthers in

689
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:22,960
the overall standings. That's something that
they just missed the playoffs really two points.

690
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,800
I'm not sure that's the best course
of action. I think they really

691
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,280
need to reload, retool, rebuild, but they I think that's what you're

692
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,159
going to see is a lot of
those guys we're gonna see. We never

693
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:40,719
talked about Oliver Shillington coming back after
admittedly saying he had to deal with a

694
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,800
lot of mental issues before he came
back. He won't go into him,

695
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:51,119
but there's another element that really was
lacking from that team last season, and

696
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,679
so we're going to see that and
follow a lot of stories about Willie sign

697
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,199
Willie be traded, and that's not
going to end until the trade deadline.

698
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:04,880
Oh boy, don't envy reading and
writing a lot of stories like that this

699
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,159
year. But we'll be looking forward
to your coverage. Randy, thank you

700
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:13,039
so much for being on and again, what how do people people follow you

701
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:15,920
on the X or where they gonna
follow you or well you still do that.

702
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,880
Oh yeah, I've even tried to
get into the new stuff, but

703
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,400
I just can't. At Randy Sportak
and on the Hockey News, teams go

704
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:28,920
to the Pacific Division Calgary Flames and
we'll start ramping it up and getting ready

705
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,559
for a season of who knows,
this could be one of those seasons where

706
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:42,679
every day is going to bring a
new adventure. Wilson. Then well that's

707
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:52,079
good fired, passed off. Oh
my goodness, got quick grab. Now

708
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:57,400
it's your weekly Goalie Talk with Cats
Silverman Cat's instinct Time for another edition of

709
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,960
Cat's Instincts with Cat Silverman and gol
mag Calgary Flames edition. And you know

710
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,039
what that means, Cat, That
means one of our favorite goalies for sure,

711
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:13,159
to talk about the short king himself, Dustin Wolf. He was a

712
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,159
Flames twenty nineteen seventh round pick,
six foot maybe one hundred and seventy four

713
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:22,320
pounds, the Gilroy, California native, which is the garlic capital of the

714
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:27,639
world for those of you who don't
know. And definitely the goalie who grew

715
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:30,320
up closest to where I currently live. And so that's not the reason I

716
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,320
like him, but he has pretty
much accomplished all you could hope for at

717
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,360
the junior and minor level. He
go over to his lead prospects page and

718
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,039
just read all the accolades. I've
been saying, top WHL goalie, top

719
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:47,400
CHL goalie, you twenty World Junior
Champion, HL best goalie. It's ridiculous

720
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,440
what he's accomplished. Nothing really more
to prove, I would say at any

721
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:57,599
level, but the NHL is Hockey
prospecting chart is littered with really the top

722
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,800
equivalences. Connor Hillibuck is a guy. I think he looks a pretty fair

723
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:07,840
amount in this model, and he's
feignch is taller and was drafted a couple

724
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,639
rounds earlier than him. But he's
got some other good ones too. I

725
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:15,440
also liked the hell of Buck comp
because he's American, and sometimes it's interesting

726
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,079
just to see those together. But
Kat, what do your instincts tell you

727
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:24,199
about the big bad Dustin Wolf and
his NHL potential. I think he's going

728
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,000
to be the best goaltender the NHL's
ever seen. He's perfect. I'm just

729
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:31,440
kidding, no, I'm so excited
to see just what he can do.

730
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:37,719
Though. I remember when he got
drafted. I believe I had that draft,

731
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,360
and I was so nervous. Yeah, you got drafted in twenty nineteen,

732
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:46,039
And I was sincerely so nervous because
I thought that he wasn't going to

733
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:51,840
get drafted, and I had hyped
him up so aggressively leading into the draft.

734
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,400
I was like, this kid's going
to be so good. This kid's

735
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,920
amazing. You should watch him.
He plays, He's already confident that he

736
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,760
could go up against Lars. He's
been playing at that point, he'd been

737
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:08,039
playing the WHL for two years and
just had like absolutely unreal numbers, the

738
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,400
silver tips, and I was like, look at this kit, He's the

739
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,519
next big thing. And everyone was
like, the next big thing is the

740
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,280
stretch word wise, but okay,
and and then I believe he was if

741
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,440
I remember correctly, he was the
last player to get drafted, and if

742
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,280
he wasn't, he was the second
to last. And I need to look

743
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,840
it up and see, because I
truly he was two fourteen and it went

744
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,280
to two seventeen, so he was
truly like one of those last. He

745
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,280
was in the bottom five, and
I think that was to Calgary's benefit.

746
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,360
All the other teams lost out there
because, like you said, every level

747
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:51,039
he's been just shining. He's been
exceeding expectations. And some of it is

748
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:59,159
because people assume that those smaller goaltenders
have more exploitable weaknesses because they can't really

749
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,360
they and draw them out. They
can goad them to go somewhere else and

750
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,559
then they open up other holes.
But he's really hard to exploit like that,

751
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:09,400
just because he's got such a high
hockey I Q. So I'm excited

752
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:15,719
to see where he goes. I
think that Calgary desperately needs him. I

753
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:21,360
don't know if they're ready for him, but I do want to see what

754
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,199
he can do at the NHL level, just because he seems to read his

755
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:30,960
opponents so effectively, and he almost
plays the game in a way that makes

756
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:36,079
them cater to his strengths instead of
reacting to them. So he's the opposite

757
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:39,280
of some other goaltenders that we've gotten
to talk about for other teams, who

758
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:44,519
play a game that just reacts to
what's happening in front of them. He

759
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:49,039
controls what's going on by reading his
opponents and almost drawing them into a more

760
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:52,159
advantageous spot for him. So we'll
see just how good he gets but we

761
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:58,559
haven't really seen any dips in his
performance yet, which is incredible that we

762
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:02,159
haven't really seen any subtle steps from
him. And not to get really hyped,

763
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:08,880
but I think he's going to be
absolutely phenomenal. Everyone has bet against

764
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,960
him pretty much to this point,
and they've pretty much all been wrong.

765
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,039
So they've all been wrong. Do
you want to keep betting against Dust and

766
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:19,440
Wolf? Do it? Do so
at your own peril? It's interesting.

767
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:24,039
Obviously mark Strom had a really tough
year and vladash Or Vladar has had some

768
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:30,079
decent play. I agree that doesn't
seem like Calgary is ready for him,

769
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:34,360
but he's definitely ready for the Flames. So we'll have to see what happens

770
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,119
there with Dust and Wolf. But
he can't play mostly in the h L

771
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:40,280
anymore. He's shown he's too good
for that league. We'll see, all

772
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,679
right, let's move on to the
next guy or yegoroff ten out of ten

773
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:51,519
name for sure, incredible. Bravo
to the parents that decided to use basically

774
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:54,440
their last name to name him.
Flames twenty twenty three, sixth round pick,

775
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,519
six foot, three hundred and eighty
three pounds, so he was just

776
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:01,639
drafted he's in the Moskova system,
played in the MHL this past season for

777
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,679
the MHK Dynamo Muskva, so he
hasn't really actually played a lot. It

778
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:13,199
was interesting and I guess a little
surprising that he was drafted. He's also

779
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,039
incredibly young. As we're recording this
in early August, he's still seventeen,

780
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:22,320
so he has a long way to
go the trajectory wise, which is good,

781
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,880
I guess considering if he has a
good frame and some other mechanics he's

782
00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:30,079
if he can be patient, maybe
there's some Maybe there's some good upside there.

783
00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:34,239
Kat, What do your instincts tell
us about Igorov? Despite having an

784
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,679
incredible name, does he have a
starter upside? It's always really hard to

785
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:45,519
tell with the Russian kids, just
because you end up having that risk that

786
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:49,280
they're never going to come over to
North America. I think that my favorite

787
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,639
part is that when I was looking
up igor Igorov, trying to find some

788
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,760
highlights of info on him, because
he is young and doesn't have a ton

789
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:04,960
of games played in a league that's
essentially been advertised online. At the North

790
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:12,440
American with access to it, He's
not the only Yegorov playing hockey right now.

791
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,679
And the other one isn't his dad, it's a thirty six year old

792
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:23,079
Belarusian player, So that is apparently
a common name over there, and I

793
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:30,079
think that's absolutely incredible. I think
it's fun getting a guy who at this

794
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:34,840
point, the Moscow system has a
pretty good development upside. They have the

795
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,760
resources, They don't necessarily need someone
who's going to be NHL ready immediately,

796
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,840
so they can take some of those
gampbeles. They can take some bets on

797
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,840
guys who they like. You look
at a team like like we've talked about

798
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,920
the Winnipeg Jets, who desperately need
someone. Now we've talked about the Philadelphia

799
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:58,119
Flyers who desperately need someone. I
think Calgary they have two good goaltenders right

800
00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:00,039
now at the NHL level. They
have Dust and Mold, who was perfect

801
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:05,320
in every way. They can start
taking some bets on guys who have a

802
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,480
high risk but high reward. If
they have a scout over in Russia who

803
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,599
was able to watch this kid play
and saw some upside, you might as

804
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:16,440
well use a pick on it.
I don't think. I think, if

805
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,320
anything, he's probably a ways out, especially if he was playing in the

806
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,559
MHL this last year. He wasn't
in either the KHL or their minor league

807
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:28,960
system. He was still truly in
their junior system. I think he'd be

808
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:34,079
a ways out from getting a look
in North America, but you might as

809
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:38,760
well wait and see. And we've
seen some other guys who over the years

810
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,800
have had some promising looks in Russia. Teams took him as a flyer in

811
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,920
a later round and they ended up
being really good, like a Peoter cutch

812
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:54,519
at CoV In. Maybe Carolina,
who had looked really good, wasn't necessarily

813
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,480
playing at the top tier level and
wasn't looking to come to North America immediately,

814
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,559
and they took a flyer on him, and here we are. But

815
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,639
in reality, you don't need anything
other than Dustin Wolf. So that's all

816
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:09,760
you need in life. Just move
along. Thanks so much, KAF for

817
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:15,920
giving us your instincts on the Calgary
Flame goalies. Will be back right after

818
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:34,679
this. The Dynasty dig the picture. We're here to talk about the Calgary

819
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:38,119
Flames, so let me set the
situation, set the background a little bit

820
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:43,719
for the listeners out there. The
Calgary Flames system is ranked fifteenth under your

821
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,519
rankings among the NHL squads, and
they're going to start out talking about your

822
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:51,239
no brainer. He's already come up
on this show. Who is it?

823
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:58,679
Yeah? The no brainer for the
Calgary Flames is Matthew Coronado, twenty one

824
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,639
first round pick, thirteenth overall.
He's played two seasons at Harvard since leaving

825
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:07,159
the Chicago steel In his draft season. In each season, he played thirty

826
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:10,320
four games and scored thirty six points. Beautiful. Thank you Matthew for making

827
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,960
that simple. The symmetry is gorgeous
and didn't have to think too much about

828
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:20,079
the point pace or difference there because
it was the same. And he did

829
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:22,360
have slightly more goals this year though
than he did last year twenty goals,

830
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:27,280
so that's nice. He signed his
entry level with Calgary, played one game

831
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:30,880
and that was pretty fun actually watching
that game. He seemed definitely to fit

832
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,400
there. He's very fast, he's
got a good shot. He had a

833
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,360
couple of good chances, but he
did not score, but I remember seeing

834
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,239
him come pretty close to that,
so that was really fun to see.

835
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:45,440
He also went to the World Men's
Championships with USA, had three goals,

836
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:50,239
five assists and ten games. That
was fantastic. To see him really fitting

837
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:53,039
in with those pros. He has
two years left on his entry level deal

838
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:58,880
and basically looks like he's going to
be competing for a role there. If

839
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,760
not in the Calgary Flames, will
be in the HL So we'll look forward

840
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,480
to that. If you look at
Mitch Brown's tracking data for the NCUBA,

841
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,280
he was basically the best in the
NCUBA at expected goals for sixty and shots

842
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:15,159
for sixty. You love to see
those metrics being so high volume shooter,

843
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,519
high goal chance generation. He was
also in the top ninetieth percentile for expected

844
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:23,880
primary sis per sixties, so all
that's good. His other some of his

845
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,599
other really good stuff are his primary
expected point involvement, game score off,

846
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:32,119
puck assists, advantages created. All
that looks very good. And even his

847
01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:37,000
transition data is pretty good at seventy
eight percentile. The one thing that's maybe

848
01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:40,800
a little bit lower his defense at
seventy third, but it's still pretty decent,

849
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,840
so I don't think that's going to
be a major weakness for him.

850
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:49,239
So yeah, Coronado looks to be
really too good for college at this point.

851
01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:52,320
Let's hear a little bit more about
what makes him. Take from our

852
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,559
FHL scout. Yes, Sir,
our FHL scout in this case is Austin

853
01:00:57,679 --> 01:01:00,639
Kelly, and here's what he has
to say about Matthew corn skating. He's

854
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:05,360
a player always seems to have questions
about his skating ability as a certain level,

855
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,199
but has always managed to adapt well
enough to not have it be an

856
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:12,840
issue. The NHL will be a
hole different beast. He's not a stronger

857
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,639
shifty skater, but has shown a
passing quality that will be tested in the

858
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:20,719
NHL. In terms of passing,
playmaking gets a bit overshadowed by the fact

859
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,519
he's a great shooter, but Cornado
has been able to make a long series

860
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:30,360
of well crafted chances even better as
his puck movie creation more so than passing.

861
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:34,559
Sean Farrell was the playmaker of the
Harvard duo, but Cornado is no

862
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:38,159
slouch either, shooting always a high
end goal scorer that may be his most

863
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:43,360
translatable asset. He has a strong
rister that he can hit from every angle,

864
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,280
as well as a complimentary snapshot with
good accuracy. Talented with the puck,

865
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:52,119
but it's his release that may be
where his hands are best at IQ

866
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:57,400
not many would be surprised to learn
that Cornado, a psychology major at Harvard,

867
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,119
is intelligent both on and off the
ice. One of the smartest players

868
01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:06,599
you'll find on the ice, constantly
being able to read plays efficiency efficiently and

869
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,960
constantly making high IQ plays with and
without the puck. Not in a lee

870
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:15,159
hockey mind, but he's shown the
potential to hold a lot of maturity on

871
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:19,039
the ice as he ages into the
pro game. His smarts should translate to

872
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:22,639
the NHL. For checking, it's
all right, but since he's five ten,

873
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,599
you're not going to see him becomes
some sort of bruiser. He times

874
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:30,320
his defensive battles, but not a
sure thing. He'll be too menacing against

875
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,039
strong players at high levels. He's
got the smarts and the compete. He's

876
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:37,360
missing the strength defense again because he's
a smaller guy. He's not going to

877
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:42,000
be the most physical, but he
does have the intensity to create pressure in

878
01:02:42,119 --> 01:02:45,800
situational matchups, and the transition game
is strong to bring the puck out of

879
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,800
danger. He wasn't afraid to match
up against stronger players at Harvard. It's

880
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,800
possible he could do well enough as
a defensive player in the NHL, but

881
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:59,320
that could take some time. So
the best asset is how complete Coronado's game

882
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:04,480
looks, score, create chances,
turn on intensity, have the smarts not

883
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,239
a player. He usually has a
bad night, and when everything in his

884
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,039
toolbox is working, you're getting a
machine of a player who's going to dominate

885
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:15,800
and really make problems for opposing teams. The concern skating as mentioned above,

886
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:21,440
He's got decent average skating, but
that could be an issue in the NHL.

887
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:25,079
It may limit how high his ceiling
gets to be the top tier outcome

888
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,960
if the skating improves a low end
first liner to a high end second liner.

889
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,760
Realistically, second line is most likely
at the best. Great eye for

890
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,199
goal and good stick handling not be
shocked. Austin would not be if Coronado

891
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:45,119
manages to net a few thirty goal
seasons sometime. The middle outcome high end

892
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:47,079
potential could see him as one of
the league's better second liners, but even

893
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:52,840
his average role has a likelihood of
being on the second line. Offensive potential

894
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,480
in IQ could see him to become
a twenty goal scorer, say, if

895
01:03:55,480 --> 01:04:00,800
he hits his middling outcome. Stylistic
comparable maybe a smaller Victor Arvidson but not

896
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,920
as strong as a skater. Both
are skilled goal scorers who play best when

897
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,760
they kick up the intensity, and
Arvidson struggled with consistency and upside early in

898
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,760
his career before taking a big step
this year. Maybe a player who takes

899
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,440
some time to hit his stride does
as well. The NHL rank King Mason

900
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:27,760
Black rates him out in terms of
p NHL E equivalency. Joel Farrabee is

901
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,159
the number one match here, followed
by Sunny Milano and Jeoffrey Loophole, and

902
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:36,840
it's just above a second line type
potential in terms of that translation and in

903
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:42,880
terms of the matchup. He puts
Matthew Cornado out on the internet versus Luke

904
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:48,639
of Angelista of the Nashville Predators,
and he was picked one year earlier and

905
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:54,239
one round later than Coronado. Was
Coronado being of course number thirteen in twenty

906
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,840
twenty one Who would you rather have
on your fantasy team? One hundred and

907
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,320
eighty seven votes, And it was
an incredibly near old margin for Matthew Coronado

908
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,880
fifty one to forty nine over Luke
of Angelista. You've sounded if I were

909
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,239
to guess your victor, I would
guess it's going to be Coronado. By

910
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,519
a bit for you, But you
tell me who's your favorite. Yeah,

911
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:19,519
I'm a huge Coronado fan. I
definitely have liked him since back in the

912
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,760
draft I can't remember I had him
was definitely inside the top ten. He

913
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,519
didn't go too far after that thirteenth, but I definitely liked him. His

914
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:32,000
strong play was on exhibit in the
USAHL there, and he's done nothing to

915
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:36,000
dissuade that opinion, looking really good
in college and at the World Championships.

916
01:05:36,039 --> 01:05:40,880
So you love to see all that. He is a fantastic talent. I

917
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,639
guess the thing, though, is
that you have Luke Evangelista doing this now

918
01:05:44,719 --> 01:05:47,960
in the NHL, and he has
transitioned pretty well. I mean, he

919
01:05:48,039 --> 01:05:51,599
only played twenty four games, but
fifty one point pace is pretty nice there

920
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:56,800
after being a pretty strong player in
the AHL. I think that this is

921
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,079
a reasonable comp especially if you think
about how translatable it's already been and the

922
01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:05,639
fact that he If you want someone
closer to NHL ready, Evangelista looks like

923
01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:10,000
he's ready to pop off in the
NHL this upcoming year. They have a

924
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,480
lot of opportunity there In Nashville.
I was looking at some of his tracking

925
01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:17,800
data with Corey Schneider, and he
does some really good things with the puck

926
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:23,920
as a young player. Yet have
to look at these these raid stats and

927
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,639
not just the overall numbers, although
he was good at those two but didn't

928
01:06:27,639 --> 01:06:29,960
get a ton of time on ice, so I think there's a good chance

929
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,440
that he could pop off. But
I think that Coronado still has a higher

930
01:06:32,519 --> 01:06:36,440
upside, so I would take him. I think the only reason it's close

931
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:43,119
is because Evangelist says a little bit
more advanced in his trajectory, because I

932
01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:45,880
think if they were at the same
stage, I think Coronado would be a

933
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:51,599
little bit ahead, So I like
him. I think it's yeah, forty

934
01:06:51,679 --> 01:06:55,119
nine is closer than I would have
it. I'd probably have it more like

935
01:06:55,199 --> 01:06:59,440
sixty five percent Coronado or something like
that, but I definitely like him.

936
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,800
You look at the prospecting between these
two, and Coronado has trended down his

937
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:08,079
past couple of seasons, but that's
mainly just because he had did so well

938
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,360
in his draft season. He's kept
it up, and I know Byron looks

939
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,079
at improvement from the previous year,
but he's basically kept his NHL E the

940
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:17,480
same, which is good. It's
just hard to increase on such a strong

941
01:07:17,559 --> 01:07:21,559
season at Harvard, so that's maybe
a little bit of the issue with him.

942
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:26,719
Evangelista has stayed in the teens and
his star potential, so they're actually

943
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,320
similar in that sense, and some
other comps. For Coronado, there's some

944
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,440
guys he looks like. One of
the main ones, at least statistically,

945
01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:38,400
is Josh Bailey, who was more
of an average producer, but certainly not

946
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:43,119
a stylistic comparable because Bailey is like
allergic to shooting and Coronado is a volume

947
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:46,519
shooter, so very different there.
But I definitely think the Cornado has much

948
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:50,920
more upside than that, more than
being just an average NHLLER. You look

949
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,679
at the top down hockey model and
he's just nine percent chance of being a

950
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:57,880
star, thirty two percent chance of
being an NHLLER. I think there's a

951
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,400
lot more. There should be more
optimism than this. Jesse that seems a

952
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:08,000
little that seems a little low for
me, makes sense to me. Yeah,

953
01:08:08,039 --> 01:08:11,480
that's the way that I felt as
well on this one. Okay,

954
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:15,079
Victor, that is our first guy
for these Calgary Flames. Now, who

955
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:19,079
is your need to no prospect?
I need to no prospect is Samuel Hansk,

956
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:23,840
the big Slovak who was just taken
by Calgary in the first round sixteenth

957
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,399
overall, six foot four, one
hundred and ninety four pounds, twenty three

958
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,279
goals, thirty three assists and forty
three games for Vancouver or the WHL.

959
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,600
He's very old for this draft.
He was a November twelfth birthday, so

960
01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:40,520
he's got maybe not as long of
a runway to develop here. And he's

961
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:45,840
got at least another year of the
WHL before he can be signed into the

962
01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:50,520
HL or sorry, be playing the
HL. So he's already signed his contract.

963
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,399
It's got one more year of junior
at least, and then we'll see

964
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:59,119
after that. His tracking data is
pretty good overall. He's got a ninety

965
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:04,680
three percent score from Mitch Brown's data
ninety four. Offense, his expected goals

966
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:11,039
per sixty is really good. It's
definitely in the top eighty five percentile.

967
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,920
And his shots he's pretty good as
well, pretty high volume shooter, not

968
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,079
the biggest in terms of primary assists
but per sixty, but his primary important

969
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:23,800
involvement is very high, as are
some of his transition scores, which he's

970
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,039
also very good at. And his
defense scores. He's someone who when I

971
01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:30,239
was talking to a lot of the
other scouts of the draft, they he's

972
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:33,399
just a very safe pick, like
he's very projectable to the NHL, and

973
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:38,000
there's a lot of disagreement or unknown
about what his upside is. Does he

974
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:42,119
have more upside for higher points or
is it just middle six type of center

975
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:45,319
which is valuable to an NHL team
but not as much to our fantasy team.

976
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:47,479
So let's hear a little bit more
about Samuel Hansick from our FHL scout

977
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:53,720
and once again it's Austin coming to
tell us about Hansick. He's got that

978
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,159
is Hansick good skating for a six
four forward, which is a big plus

979
01:09:57,199 --> 01:10:00,199
for his game. That skating ability
and offense is like a factor that helped

980
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:03,600
to make him a lottery pick.
Of course, his size means he'll never

981
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:08,279
be as flashy or as dominant as
skater, but as of right now,

982
01:10:08,319 --> 01:10:12,119
there isn't any question mark there.
He could benefit from getting faster, but

983
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:16,680
there's a good foundation passing and handling. Hansi's playmaking was perhaps his most positive

984
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,319
improvement since coming over to North America. Playing within his own age group let

985
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:26,800
him develop his game at his own
pace in comparison to the season prior where

986
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,399
he played in Slovakia. Shooting,
He's put a lot of effort into playmaking.

987
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:35,319
Hans still possesses strong shooting skills.
He has good accuracy and a quick

988
01:10:35,359 --> 01:10:41,279
shot that already looked pro level in
twenty twenty one twenty two while playing men's

989
01:10:41,319 --> 01:10:45,720
hockey once again in Slovakia, and
that strong shot has the potential to cause

990
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,479
a major goal boost for him next
season in the dub Iq. The aforementioned

991
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:57,479
qualities of Hansi's game his decent skating
and a dual threat scoring playmaking convo,

992
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,159
those are big reasons he found himself
as a lottery pick and have continued to

993
01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:04,560
get better. Because Hansick is constantly
improving on his game, especially as he

994
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:10,560
adapted to North American ice, awareness
level could come with more intensity, but

995
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,319
he is not someone who's given up
many mistakes. Defensively, he seems to

996
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:18,920
prefer brain over braun, a fascinating
choice for a player whose size would allow

997
01:11:19,039 --> 01:11:23,720
to gravitate to the ladder, but
he plays a mature game all throughout the

998
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:28,119
ice for checking, despite that size, not always the most physical player and

999
01:11:28,199 --> 01:11:31,720
that he plays much softer than that
six four frame would suggest, but it's

1000
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:38,439
always been something for checking. That
is that Hansick has excelled at defense somewhat

1001
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:44,000
mute aggressiveness as noted in his for
checking section, But perhaps it's a lot

1002
01:11:44,039 --> 01:11:46,560
to ask of a seventeen year old. Because of his size, his reaction

1003
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,079
time to rush as could be better, but overall he uses his size well

1004
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:55,239
when he does use it. So
the best asset was the well roundedness of

1005
01:11:55,279 --> 01:12:00,239
the game and much of the game. Having improved throughout the year, he

1006
01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:05,000
continued to show that growth in multiple
aspects. Biggest concern some much better scouts

1007
01:12:05,039 --> 01:12:10,640
than Austin Austin's being modest. Here
have concerns over whether hans is going to

1008
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,359
be a center at the NHL level
if he's a winger, having played both

1009
01:12:14,399 --> 01:12:18,199
there. Having played both those positions
at the DUB he is a good face

1010
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:23,560
off taker and that ability could keep
him at center. He needs to work

1011
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:28,359
on his strength and skating to ensure
so the top tier outcome for him.

1012
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,479
The stylistic comparable that Austin's going to
use as Pavel Zaka, so he's going

1013
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:38,399
to say that is where he's going. The guy who's the presumptive first line

1014
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,119
center for the Bruins, although based
on a little bit of a vacuum in

1015
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:45,520
that position, but hans could very
well make a serviceable second liner and that

1016
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:50,600
top outcome role either's a winger or
center, potential for fifty to sixty points

1017
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:58,119
and if the hits come as he
becomes more confident improving that bash middle percentile

1018
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,039
role is middle and that's where Austin
thinks he's probably going to end up one

1019
01:13:03,079 --> 01:13:06,159
of the safer players in this draft. To make it all though, improvements

1020
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:11,760
to his skating ability will dictate the
difference between second or third line peak.

1021
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,079
And again, Pavelzaka is his comp
he Remember he Zaka did play as a

1022
01:13:16,079 --> 01:13:20,000
winger before he really moved into that
center slot for good, and that could

1023
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:25,439
be the same scenario Austin thinks for
Hansick. Let's look at the NHL rank

1024
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,760
kings equivalences, Dylan Cousins comes out
as the number one. Of course,

1025
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:34,600
Dylan Cousins at the same age was
struggling. Yeah, but he did get

1026
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:39,520
off that struggle bus and he did
become a pretty good player after a couple

1027
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:44,600
of years and a breakout, and
the competition of number sixteen overall. Pick

1028
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,920
Samuel Hanjick is number twenty overall,
Pick Edwards Shale, And I know Victor's

1029
01:13:49,079 --> 01:13:53,279
probably not siding with the Shale because
I don't think Victor likes the shale.

1030
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,279
There's all kinds of there's all kinds
of talent there. But then there's also

1031
01:13:57,399 --> 01:14:02,000
the compete questions with Shalla, and
the people agree. Samuel Hansick wins this

1032
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:05,720
competition fifty three to forty seven victory. I think I can read your mind,

1033
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:10,119
but that's probably me being arrogant that
I think I can read your mind.

1034
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,680
Am I right that you would take
Hansick in this comp Oh definitely,

1035
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,960
I would be disappointed if you didn't
know some of my tendencies by now.

1036
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:23,279
We talk enough on the podcast.
I think he's come up several times.

1037
01:14:23,359 --> 01:14:25,680
Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan. I think you nailed a lot of

1038
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,760
the reasons there. Yeah, he's
just a really instant Chalet is just a

1039
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,520
really inconsistent player. It's so frustrating
you watch him and sometimes you're just like,

1040
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,560
oh ah, and sometimes that's all
you remember about a player, or

1041
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:40,279
the highlight reel. And if you
watch Edward Charlie's highlight reel. You're just

1042
01:14:40,319 --> 01:14:44,399
thinking yourself, Damn, this guy's
a point pre game player. He's fantastic.

1043
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,760
But then you watch him more closely
and you see all the things he

1044
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,000
doesn't do, and you see all
the times he's disengaged and how little he

1045
01:14:50,039 --> 01:14:56,560
actually participates, and you just know
the coach is gonna just not be cool

1046
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,000
with that. It's that's not gonna
fly, and so he needs to figure

1047
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,479
there are a lot of things out. I think the upside this is a

1048
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,359
classic ceiling floor type of bet.
If you want to bet on ceiling,

1049
01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:13,279
then yeah, I think Chalet's ceiling
is higher in terms of fantasy, but

1050
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:16,239
I think the floor is like nothing, whereas with Samuel Hansack you have a

1051
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:21,880
really good floor. He reminds me
of Michail Backland, the other Flames pivot

1052
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:27,199
there that never gets enough respect.
He's such a good player. He's not

1053
01:15:27,239 --> 01:15:30,399
really a first line player, but
he could. He can play in that

1054
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,319
role. And I think Hanzak is
that guy, like he can play up

1055
01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:35,159
in the lineup, but he also
is just a really good their line center,

1056
01:15:35,239 --> 01:15:40,079
probably for them, but maybe some
more skill wins out and maybe he

1057
01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:44,199
actually develops more offense and maybe he
becomes a really good fantasy ascid. But

1058
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:46,000
I just think the floor is so
much higher for Hansk and the ceiling is

1059
01:15:46,039 --> 01:15:49,479
still there too, It's not like
it's not there. I would just definitely

1060
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:55,279
rather have him on my fantasy pool
because I know that I'll get something out

1061
01:15:55,319 --> 01:15:58,359
of him, whereas with Chalet,
he just might drop him a couple of

1062
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,159
years, he might just fade into
a blue That depends the issue with Shali's

1063
01:16:01,159 --> 01:16:05,600
people are just taking him way earlier
then I would feel comfortable, and so

1064
01:16:06,319 --> 01:16:11,319
that makes me less interested. If
he was someone who was being taken in

1065
01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:13,960
the second or third round of my
entry draft, then yeah, cool,

1066
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,960
I'll take him there. But being
posed with this question versus Hansak, no,

1067
01:16:17,079 --> 01:16:20,560
I'm gonna take Hanzak every time.
And when you look at the hockey

1068
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:26,079
prospect between these two, Hansak has
higher production even in thirty two percent chance

1069
01:16:26,119 --> 01:16:30,680
of being a star already to the
nine percent for Chali and sixty one percent

1070
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,680
chance for Hansick of being an NHLA
versus the forty seven for Chali. So

1071
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:40,199
yeah, I'll take my Chalet vacation
in the Swiss Alps, not in my

1072
01:16:40,279 --> 01:16:44,560
fantasy hockey pool, Jesse, that's
where I'm going with that, And gosh,

1073
01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:47,119
just looking at some of the rest
of the hockey prospecting here, I

1074
01:16:47,159 --> 01:16:54,720
think got some interesting comps for Hansk. There's guys like Max Domi is a

1075
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,000
comp Eric Cole is another one.
They're more average producers, and that's probably

1076
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,239
where he rates out. There is
upside for more and in the top down

1077
01:17:01,279 --> 01:17:06,079
Hockey model, nine percent chance of
being a star for hansa fifty four percent

1078
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:10,560
chance of being in each other.
So yeah, there's a chance there.

1079
01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:15,119
I like him. He's someone who
will probably play, but maybe he doesn't

1080
01:17:15,159 --> 01:17:19,079
have The biggest upside for is Samuel
Hansick. And I did take Chalet number

1081
01:17:19,119 --> 01:17:23,319
twenty eight in the tidy. I
thought at twenty eight he was a decent

1082
01:17:23,399 --> 01:17:26,600
value to see if he's able to
bring it around, Like you say,

1083
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,199
it's if it's low enough, he
could be a value. But Victor,

1084
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,279
we've already talked a little bit about
you keep your eye on prospect. We've

1085
01:17:33,319 --> 01:17:38,760
got some opinions in the first part
from Randy, But who is it and

1086
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,720
what do you have to say about
him? Jeremy Poirier is our keep your

1087
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,159
eye on And yeah, he was
a twenty twenty third round picked by Calgary

1088
01:17:46,279 --> 01:17:53,479
six one and ninety pound left handed
d. Yeah, he was so interesting

1089
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,079
to watch. I remember watching him
with Saint John the Sea Dogs in the

1090
01:17:57,159 --> 01:18:00,000
queue and on his draft season.
It was just it's he's a very fun

1091
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:03,760
guy to watch because something happens every
time he's out there. The puck either

1092
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,800
goes in one way or another for
his team or the tea or against him,

1093
01:18:08,319 --> 01:18:11,800
because he just he's all. He
was all offense all the time,

1094
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,000
and as we heard, he's really
understands that he needs to work on the

1095
01:18:15,039 --> 01:18:17,680
defense. Sounds like he's working on
it, sounds like it's gotten better.

1096
01:18:18,279 --> 01:18:20,960
And yeah, he didn't remind me
a lot of Markley. I mentioned this

1097
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:26,239
earlier as someone who wasn't sure he
would ever figure it out good offensively,

1098
01:18:26,279 --> 01:18:30,319
but can he play average NHL defense? And that still remains to be seen.

1099
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:34,800
For Parier, it has improved a
ton and so after he won the

1100
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:39,760
Memorial Cup with the Saint John Seadogs
of the QMJHL last season, he graduated

1101
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:44,520
and was in the HL and he
made the All Rookie team for the Calgary

1102
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,920
Wranglers in the HL forty one points
in sixty nine games, and he was

1103
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,720
point per game, just about a
point per game player in the playoffs.

1104
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:55,479
Fantastic two years left on his entry
level deal. I, as we talked

1105
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,199
about, not sure that he cracks
the lineup out of camp, but depends

1106
01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:01,600
on if guys are moved out,
then he might be last man standing there.

1107
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,279
He might actually get a role if
other guys move on or if they're

1108
01:19:05,319 --> 01:19:10,479
injuries. So I like his proximity
to the NHL too. He looks like

1109
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,279
he's pretty pretty close to get a
look and it probably deserves another year in

1110
01:19:14,319 --> 01:19:17,560
the HL. Really refining that defense
not doing crazy things like leading the rush

1111
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,640
and standing in front of the goal. Probably needs to work on that a

1112
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,239
little bit. But let's hear a
little bit more about Jeremy Poary from our

1113
01:19:25,279 --> 01:19:31,159
FHL scout Jeremy for a Jeremy because
our FHL scout Jeremy has the comments here.

1114
01:19:31,319 --> 01:19:35,119
Skating above average, not all world
speed, but very good footwork,

1115
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:41,640
passing and handling elite. One of
the best skating handling combos Jeremy has seen

1116
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,520
in a young defenseman. Shooting average, not a lethal shooter, but it's

1117
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,640
a d He just needs to get
pucks on net and create chaos. IQ

1118
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:54,760
above average makes some beautiful passes on
offense, but can panic a bit in

1119
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:59,960
the defensive zone. Also can get
drawn away from his NetFront during sustained pressure

1120
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,079
defense rush and in zone. Probably
below average here. The rush defense is

1121
01:20:04,119 --> 01:20:08,399
fine when he's not giving up two
on once. He gaps up well and

1122
01:20:08,399 --> 01:20:13,199
has the footwork to handle the top
line forwards. And maybe Jeremy's being over

1123
01:20:13,239 --> 01:20:16,079
critical here, given that he's a
twenty year old in the AHL playing big

1124
01:20:16,079 --> 01:20:20,000
minute's good to acknowledge that. So
the best asset was the puck handling of

1125
01:20:20,039 --> 01:20:25,079
the biggest concern was the defense.
Sometimes he's just a bit too aggressive and

1126
01:20:25,119 --> 01:20:30,359
a bit over eager on the pinch. The top tier outcome for Poier a

1127
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,880
smooth skating offensive D who's too good
to keep off the ice. Think Eric

1128
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:40,880
Carlson Light. I'd love to think
that the middling outcome fifty percentile tweener or

1129
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,279
a bust. Think the odds on
outcome here is a guy who can't defend

1130
01:20:44,319 --> 01:20:46,520
well enough to stick. Maybe the
offense is good enough to keep give him

1131
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,439
a chances Allah Gosta Spear, or
maybe it's not and he's a tweeter like

1132
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:56,479
Dennis Chilowski, and so Jeremy also
says this isn't something he can tell from

1133
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,880
two a few viewings everything that other
scouts are saying about him. Says the

1134
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,800
attitude is top tier and that does
matter. That's massive for a player who

1135
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:08,720
needs to improve at the less flashy
side of the game. So the outcome

1136
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:14,520
range is huge here and we will
see what happens. Stylist a comparable Mike

1137
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,560
Green or a smaller dustin Bufflin,
basically a fourth forward on your D line.

1138
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:25,319
The NHL rank King Mason Black shows
that Poier has taken a tick up

1139
01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:29,479
in the last year up to nearly
first line potential in terms of his equivalency,

1140
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,439
taking him up into the number one
comp of Rasmus Anderson. We've heard

1141
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:38,880
a little bit about him today too, or Ivan Proveroff nearby that as well.

1142
01:21:39,119 --> 01:21:43,840
And in terms of the comparison the
poll, the babble out there,

1143
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:49,000
Jeremy Poier versus Henry Thrun a Anaheim
Ducks pick but a San Jose Shark.

1144
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:55,720
Now Poier is winning over Thrun fifty
five to forty five with one hundred and

1145
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:59,319
fifty six votes. In the books, Victor I'm not quite sure where you're

1146
01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:03,239
going to go on this one.
Tell me Potier or Thront. I think

1147
01:22:03,239 --> 01:22:06,960
I'm gonna go Quaria here. I
like both of these guys. I like

1148
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,720
what Thrun did in college, and
he seems to be pretty close to NHL

1149
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,199
already. I played some games,
so you'd like to see that. But

1150
01:22:15,279 --> 01:22:18,680
I think paria Is upside is much
higher. I think, as you just

1151
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:24,479
heard there from Jeremy, I think
Quaria could be could demand power play time.

1152
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,520
I don't think Thron will. I
think Thron is much more likely to

1153
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,239
play in like a second or bottom
pairing role. So if you want safety

1154
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,439
of a guy who's just going to
play and probably get decent banger stats,

1155
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:38,000
then Thrun makes a lot of sense. But in terms of if you want

1156
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,199
that bigger upside run the power play
collect more points, I think it's got

1157
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:45,560
to be Poirier here. A little
bit of a little bit of dealer's choice

1158
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,399
there, but also the floor being
lower for Parrier. He's interesting because his

1159
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,960
hockey prospecting is really trended down.
It's in the last few seasons just four

1160
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,520
percent chance of being a star now, and I think that's partly because he's

1161
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,119
focused on some other things and not
just scoring, which is fine because we

1162
01:23:00,119 --> 01:23:05,039
know he can score. And Thron
has looked really good from the USHL to

1163
01:23:05,159 --> 01:23:11,439
his college days. He looks fantastic
in terms of graduating twenty six percent chance

1164
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,560
of being a star in the model
and a sixty eight percent chance of being

1165
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:19,159
an nhlor. So Thron definitely is
an NHLer, I think, and maybe,

1166
01:23:19,239 --> 01:23:23,479
but the upside is higher. Whether
you want floor or ceiling there there's

1167
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,880
a bit of a choice. I
think I would swing on upside and the

1168
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,560
fact that he's pretty close to NHL
already. You liked the opportunity in San

1169
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,720
Jose though right he, like Thron, doesn't really have anyone ahead of him,

1170
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,760
which is nice. Looking at some
other comps for Poirier, there's a

1171
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,960
couple of interesting ones. David Sieverson
is one that looks pretty reasonable. Shane

1172
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,399
Gosta Spare is another one, although
his equivalence he was a bit higher,

1173
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:48,720
so I'm not sure that one perfectly
fits, but maybe this play style and

1174
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:55,039
being a little weaker defensively fits there. The j Fresh card has Parer at

1175
01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:58,880
six percent chance of being an NHL
or fifty six percent chance or sorry,

1176
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,920
six percent chance of being a star, fifty six percent chance of being an

1177
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,960
NHLA. Yeah, so a little
bit of varying opinions there on Priory,

1178
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,680
but I think he is someone that
you definitely want to keep your eye on

1179
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,840
because, depending on what happens in
Calgary, like Randy said, some of

1180
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,359
those defensemen might be gone. There
might be a wide open opportunity there for

1181
01:24:18,039 --> 01:24:23,439
Priory and he could step into it
and be maybe not amazing because the team

1182
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,640
is probably gonna look worse if those
guys are gone, but he should have

1183
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,920
a great opportunity to put up some
points. And Jesse, there are more

1184
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,279
guys we could talk about, but
there's no time here. If you're a

1185
01:24:32,279 --> 01:24:38,039
patron, you can listen to my
top ten recap list on Patreon, and

1186
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:41,039
if you're interesting doing some scouting with
us, shoot me a DM on Twitter,

1187
01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:45,039
Discord, or email us. We
will come right back. Blows out

1188
01:24:45,079 --> 01:24:57,680
the show. Hey, a couple
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Fantasy Football. You should also be
listening to Victor and our friend Peter Harling

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talking on Dauber Prospect Report, part
of the Dauber Network. We're also part

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of the Dauber Podcast Network here and
I do a second show. It's called

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Dynasty Sports Life. It's a solo
show. It's a little bit like the

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production that I do here, except
that it is also really about the other

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fantasy Dynasty Sports. So this week
you'll hear an episode where I'm talking to

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Matt Cooper from Debby to Dynasty about
some running backs coming into the season who

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may change their Dynasty Fantasy value coming
in. So if you like that sort

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of thing, check out Dynasty Sports
Life. On the other hand, maybe

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you just play Dynasty Fantasy Hockey,
and if so, you were in the

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right place. You should follow Victor
and myself on x at fan Hockey Life

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is Me at Victor Nuno twelve is
Victor. You can subscribe, rate,

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review our podcast on Apple, podcast, Spotify, or wherever else you get

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your podcasts. Leave us some kind
words and some five stars so that more

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people find this show coming into the
Dynasty Fantasy and the regular fantasy hockey season.

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Thanks once again for listening to everybody. This is Jesse Severe saying good

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luck as you prepare for your drafts, as you listen to these thirty two

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team previews that we bring to you
to help you live this fantasy hockey like
