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Well here we are back here Tuesday
this week. I just returned from the

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UFL Championship game. Here back talking
CFL here week two. Let's see if

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we can bring in your internet.
It's a little hit and go. We'll

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see how we do here. Jason, how are you doing, sir?

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Doing good? Raid, Thanks for
having me as always, and yeah,

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happy to be here. It's good
here. We got Zach checking in here,

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We've got Chris checking in here.
It's good. Up on everything today.

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Missed a lot of the excitement this
weekend, though, I will say

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we were Hussey. We were live
in the hotel lobby bar with all the

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UFL executives, the professor, Andrew
Murray and I and Anthony Miller where they're

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watching the BC Lions game on Andy's
iPad. So just like I'm doing my

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work and then I caught up on
everything today. But we were literally like

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Russ Brandon sitting there, Moose Johnston
is sitting there, and we are watching

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the BC Lions. Really kind of
hairy win there, and we'll talk about

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that. I don't think it was
maybe as decisive as that we wanted,

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But overall, what do you think
CFL Week two? Here? I seemed

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like some pretty exciting games. Yeah, I don't think there's been a bad

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game this year so far, and
I mean you can't really say that about

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the previous couple of seasons. So
I'm really excited to talk about it today.

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Yeah, it's good here. So
I thought I've just first off here.

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We got Tim chepick in here as
well, so we'll probably try to

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switch back to Monday's here. I
think if we can obviously traveling back yesterday

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and Jason being really nice of working
out schedules, make sure if you're new

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like it, subscribe. We gave
away a bunch of tickets to the UFL

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championship game. Will do the same
for the UFO kickoff if we get that

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for season tickets, and we'll do
jerseys and stuff. We gave away Doug

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Flutie one. At some point we
can get some row retros that jersey's on

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there as well to get by the
way, But I thought today first off,

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and we'll obviously go game by game
on here. But I thought Mike's

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got his power rankings up here.
I thought this might be just kind of

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a cool conversation started here over at
Sports Illustrated. I know Anthony as well

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on there. But the interesting thing
to me, Jason, obviously montre Alowett's

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number one. Maybe that's no surprise
here, but Winnipeg Blue Bombers. What

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a time in our lives here Winnipeg
ranked ninth in the power rankings. What

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do you think about that? I
personally would still not have them ninth.

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I know they you know, I
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based on what I've seen. I
mean, Winnipeg, you know, it's

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had a couple of rough weeks,
but I think they deserve the benefit of

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the doubt more than almost any other
team. And they have their albums,

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like I said, but I think
that they'll bounce back probably this week.

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Well we'll see. And I when
I I pulled up over at CFL dot

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ca A here to kind of get
everything. Of course now I can't even

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pull up the site when I you
know, when I switched over here,

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I mean, the first thing is
what's going on with the Blue Bombers,

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I tweeted, I mean this feels
like a lifetime ago here on Thursday with

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it with the Red Blacks game and
the you know, the weather delay and

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all that. Like I mean,
I've prayed for a time like this in

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the West where Winnipeg's zero to two
can't score. Zach looks human injuries here

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and now we've even seen this week
even more right, I think Olivara is

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not practicing. They got a lot
of guys out of so far haunt and

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I think it was far Han tweeted
about like, uh, is it just

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time has come for the Blue Bombers? I mean, what do you make

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of this? Well, I definitely
think that, you know, they've lost

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some of their core pieces JaMarcus Hardrick
on the offensive line, Jackson Jeff cot

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on the defensive line, but also, like you said, Age, I

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think is starting to catch up with
them a bit. They don't have the

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same margin of air that they once
did. I think that, you know,

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they have to have that high level
play from Zach, Khalaris and there

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others are on offense in order for
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have success, and they just haven't
been playing very well through two weeks.

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Zach has just looked probably the worst
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Blue Bomber through the first couple weeks. He's probably almost most definitely been the

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worst starting quarterback in the CFL statistically
through two weeks here, So I mean,

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if that continues, I don't think
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you know, it was weird to
me because obviously the Red Blacks home open

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your Thursday. I watched that live
kind of through that whole weather delay and

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all of that, which is really
weird, Like, is is is Otwood?

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Just like in the Stormfront? I
feel like every other week we have

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a have a weather delay in Ottawa? Is that the case here? Andrew

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Murray the professor checking in here back
and say, but like it really feels

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like the Red Blacks have a lot
of weather delays. Well, they definitely

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do. I think that, you
know, they like I always make the

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joke and everybody always makes the joke
hope that they it rains every Red Blacks

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home game. But in terms of
like the meteorology of it, I'm not

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completely certain that you know, Oudawa
gets more rain than others. But I

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think, you know, just based
on the game days, it's it's been

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pretty interesting to see what's happened the
last few years with the weather they're in

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Ottawa. Yeah, it's weird.
It used to be that it was like

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the Marshall Ferguson curse and now it's
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point is like even in that game, you know, in Winnipeg tied it

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up right at one point there,
and like it never felt like Ottawa was

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in danger. Like it felt like, I don't know, to me,

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I felt watching that like we're gonna
win this game. The Mariners have had

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some game recently with and not that
Winnipeg you would traditionally think is an inferior

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opponent, but at least in that
game Thursday, they felt inferior. It

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never really felt like they were in
danger. Zach had the interception that got

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called back because the defensive pass interference
immediately throws another interception. Like it just

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really felt like nothing was there.
I know they did the weather delay,

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like let's just call this game.
I mean, and I know that it

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came back and they have kind of
the Hail Mary there at the end,

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but I'm like, let's just call
this. It's two minutes left. They

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never really felt like a Winnipeg had
any chance to get anything going. Yeah,

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I thought Ottawa looked very composed throughout
this game. I thought that Drew

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Brown looked like the veteran quarterback out
of these two in this game. And

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you know, I really wasn't scared
for Ottawa. I was pulling for Outawa

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obviously, just to see something different
in the CFL from what we've seen the

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last couple of years. And you
know, I wasn't too concerned with them

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being able to hold on to the
lead other than and before the rain delay

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when Winnipeg started to get a nice
looking drive going, but then it you

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know, the game was halted for
a better part of an hour, and

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you know it just didn't happen.
Right, So in terms of Ottawa here

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and I guess we'll start talking about
them. We can go reverse chronological kind

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of through the weekend just since we're
on it. But either we have Drew

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Brown now we're not dealing with Okay
Mazzoli at some point and get hurt last

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year Dustin Crime is back to me
in the short yardage guy, like we're

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seeing really good defense. It feels
like from Bob Dyce, Like, is

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this kind of the vision that the
Red Blacks are always supposed to be?

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Yeah, I think that you know, Drew Brown, you know, if

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they were going to reach their highest
potential, Drew Brown had to step up

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and be the guy. I think
from what we've seen from Drew Brown at

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the CFL level, especially last year, he's looked very like a high level

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quarterback in this league and a guy
that could potentially be one of the best

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quarterbacks in this league. I mean, look at last year just statistically alone,

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touchdowns, zero interceptions. Again,
did not throw an interception in this

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game, and that's key for Ottawa. They have not been able to avoid

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those turnovers from their quarterbacks the last
few seasons. And I think, you

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know, that's one thing that Drew
Brown has always excelled at. You look

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back to his college career. They
brought that up on the broadcast. That's

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always had a good touchdown interception ratio, and I think, you know,

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he's a guy that's willing to take
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have a really well called offense now
with Tommy Gondell, the former off coordinated

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for the Hamilton tiger Cats, being
there, Brailan Addison's there from you know,

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his time in Hamilton, You're starting
to see similar concepts. Brail Addison

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took a couple of snaps out of
the backfield and this want to leave the

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first play of the game from scrimmage
was a handoff to Brail and Addison I'm

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playing running back. So you're starting
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from his time in Audawa for his
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and I think, uh, you
know, maybe Condell just needed a fresh

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start and to get out of Hamilton, and maybe he's gonna have a great

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season calling place for the red blocks
question for Drew Brown and obviously with Winnipeg

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last year in the secondary role here, do you think it's you know,

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obviously we saw him last year clearros
and all that stuff, and then now

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is there just one of those like
there's not enough tape on him, because

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we saw that with Dustin Crumb last
year and he kind of had a couple

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of weeks where it was like Crumb
sanity or Crimanian and it kind of came

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back down to earth because teams,
is this just like we haven't seen enough

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of him yet and we're going to
game plan about that going forward. I'm

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curious kind of your thoughts on that. Yeah, I mean I would say

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no, I think that he's probably
going to be one of those guys that's

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gonna be able to overcome it because
the level of play that we've seen from

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him has just been so high and
he's just doing the right things so consistently.

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But you never know, you've seen
a guy like Jake Mayer, who

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I think we both were very high
on before last season, really come back

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down to earth after he hit that
you know, fifteen starter start start so

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threshold and like you said, get
defense has got tape on him. So

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I think at the end of the
day, you know, we'll have to

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wait and see if that's the case
for Drew Brown here on the on the

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Winnipig side, here he is ag
with a couple of those interceptions, like

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we said, he had the one
that guy called back immediately, you know,

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throws it over again. You know, even like penalties, right,

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Big Hill took a penalty and I
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I felt like maybe he was trying
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lost time here, getting a little
excited there and that they waved that off

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because it was such a far completion. But it feels like Winnipeg, I

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don't know if their confidence is shook
in. It just feels like, Okay,

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now we're trying to make you know, we're almost trying to play in

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spite of whatever, and coming up
with some of those mistakes. Yeah,

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I think that Zach just looks like
he's you know, they've had opportunities to

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make plays, they've had open receivers, and it just seems like they're just

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a little bit off. And like
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they can't afford to have those mistakes
from him at this point because their defense

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isn't as good as they used to
be. Their offense is missing key contributors

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right now, all of ra you
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Augustine's a good player. I like
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he is no Brady Oliver era and
it was quite clear to see that in

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this one. Really they didn't trust
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So, I mean, I think
going forward they need to get healthy.

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I mean, Kenny Lawler is going
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weeks still, you know, based
on his injury. So I mean it's

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gonna be very interesting to see how
these next few weeks. Because I believe

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they have BC this Friday. That's
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For both clubs really with you know, I think both of those teams have

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looked a little bit shaky in the
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Winnipeg has Calgary the week after that, if I'm not mistaken. So a

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couple of big West matchups coming up
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a boy that oh and four start
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Looks like they could be one of
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I mean, I don't want to. I saw Daniel Austin sometimes friend of

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the show tweeting about them last week. Kind of feels like the West is

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running through them. But you know, we can get to them a little

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bit. But yeah, I mean
a couple of tough matchup you Augustine here,

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you know, getting action obviously the
touchdown and all that we're making up.

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Olivera not being in there, like
you said, a lot of guys

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injured this week. I just don't
know where that relief comes here, Like

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you said, Kenny Lawler being out
like it just doesn't feel like they're one

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week away of Okay, let's get
a couple of guys back in here.

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It's going to make a difference.
Yeah, I agree, Like I completely

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agree in terms of, by the
way, defense really good. I kind

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of you know, keeping Winnipeg under
wraps with that. You know, you

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see that dumb rhymes here coming off
of the Lions last season. Anyway,

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l stand out for you. Surprised
you because it just like I said,

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we've seen like the Bob Dyce kind
of coach team here the last year and

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whatever year and a half where we
took over the interim role. Like it

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feels like defense is playing up,
feels like they're kind of a force to

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be reckoned with. Now, yeah, I think I have to point out

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rykwall Armstead, who you know,
I believe you a fifth front pick or

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something like that of the Jacksonville Jaguars
a few years back, a big power,

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blunning back. I think that you
know, there was one play where

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it looked like he ran into a
bunch of bodies right in just a basic

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halfback dive play, and he broke
out of it and made a big play

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out of it. Just a lot
of tough running him in this game.

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And if they can have that element, because they lost Devonte Williams in offseason

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due to a you know, a
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can have that production from the running
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of good things for Drew Brown in
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know, his performance was noteworthy.
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Mozzoli is still on the men coming
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but like, what do we is
Drew Brown playing his way into just kind

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of keeping the role here? I
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that, you know, even though
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most notably Mizzoli. I mean,
he can't really trust him at this point

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even if he gets on the field. They helped me. So I think

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you gotta, you know, roll
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a handful of weeks to really what
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you know, get over that.
You know that fifteen start threshold. I

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think you know how many games he
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than ten. Still, so I
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how that plays out. Dustin problem, I don't think that's really an option,

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even though we saw him start a
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think that's a team that, you
know, similar to Edmonton. It doesn't

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get talked about as enough as much
as Edmonton. But they need to win

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right now and I think Drew Brown
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Yeah, I mean they have a
lot of the talk. It was

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a ten year anniversary of kind of
the you know, the team returning to

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Ottawa. Okay, we're playing against
Winnipeg we had played against before. Do

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you feel like this home win,
like you said, season now trying to

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get people excited about this. I
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I don't know what it looks like
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right now. I don't know kind
of what lineage you have for that say,

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for that it feels like a fortune
to go, you know, great

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cup that they won, Like it
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where we got to get this team
going well. I hope, so I

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hope that this team can. You
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know, it's sacrilegious to say as
a tai Cats fan, but I wouldn't

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even mind if they had a good
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the Ti Cats had you know,
they seem like they're training towards being a

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bad team this year. So I
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I think, you know, I
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season this year. But I've been
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I believe they started too and oher
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sixteen games. So you know,
I've been fooled by them before. But

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you know, it was a good
start to the season for them. Yeah,

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it's good. It's good to see
some of these teams. And we'll

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talk to Edmonton here coming up,
some of the these teams that maybe you

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hope we're gonna be better, but
didn't you know, good for the crowd

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here sticking out. I don't know
how many people actually stuck around through the

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weather delay and all that. Do
you like that new rule that like,

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okay, if it's an hour,
if it's after I was it part way

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through the third quarter, and then
we can call it if it's up and

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if it's size its gonna be.
Do you like that? I think that

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was this was the first imput uh
if I could say that we're an implementation

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of it this year. Yeah,
I'm not too sure the specifics on the

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rules, but I do know it
was very close to being called. I

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remember they were saying, like they
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whether or not they were going to
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point. It sucks, obviously,
and it's not necessarily fair. It would

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have been really really unfortunate in a
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the balance, a one score game. I believe there was actually a game

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called back in I want to say
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Montreal and Saskatchwan where the game was
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think that was a two score game, but still a lot of time left,

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and I thought that was you know, it's really unfortunate that it didn't

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get to finish. But at a
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and I don't think the CFL has
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to you know, reschedule the game
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a part of a game. So
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perspective, from the league's perspective,
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comes to actually canceling the rest of
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end they really stretched out. And
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get to watch so I can CFL
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catching up. But yeah, it
would did not struck me as ironic that

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Thursday. I'm sitting there, I
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game. I'm like, oh,
great, it's the weather delay for an

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hour like this is you know,
it is what it is, Like I

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said that shout out for that.
Anything else, I'm looking at the standings

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here, but you know, it's
good to see We'll talk Hamilton, but

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it's good to see Automa at least
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I feel maybe you know better than
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with Ottawa. I can't remember with
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I don't know. To me,
I feel like the arrow is pointing out

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right now for Otawa. Last thoughts
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and anything else from this game?
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Winnipeg. What I was saying before, I think this week's measuring stick game

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for Autawa as well. They played
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who are looking very good themselves.
If they can go into Montreal and that's

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Montreal's home opener, I do believe
and win that game, I think we

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can safely say that this team is
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big, I'm looking ahead here.
Yeah, big East Division matchup here coming

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up. I mean, Montreal,
it is looking fire and all scene this

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year. Let's get over. I'll
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we had the the Montreal. Speaking
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say, first off, I felt
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I'm just gonna say, not a
lot of people in the stands, Holy

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god. And I understand that Edmonton
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Cup playoffs, and they lost there. They they rebounded Saturday and when eight

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to one. We were watching that
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Mariners game on. I had my

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head. We had the CFL and
then that, but uh, there was

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like two thousand people I mean that
was like, this is like rough times

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for Edmonton right now. It's tough
to see them struggle like this, it

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really is. And I mean like
every game. You know, it's similar

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to audible what it was just say
about Oudawa. It's like you're pulling from

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them. Get it going, you
know, you know, get some wins

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for those fans, and you know, you know, hopefully get some pomentum

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bag. They keep shooting themselves in
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this game, I thought they played
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look at them through two weeks,
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take the lead. There was a
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second half, and they just you
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at inopportune times, and I think
that's ultimately what did them in. I

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thought they played overall, you know, you know, just a grand view

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of things. I thought they played
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couldn't come away with the key plays
to win. I thought both quarterbacks felt

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pretty uncomfortable with that. Cody,
you get knocked down quite a bit McLeod

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as well. We talked about that
preseason and everything. Do you have tray

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Ford in there? Do you have
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twenty eight four to two throwing for
a lot of the yards, had the

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two interceptions there. You know,
a lots of debates we've had with MBT

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and everything on here is he Are
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Are they not? I don't know
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perspective than tray Ford. But one
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Brown's been pretty quiet through two weeks
and I think a lot of his success

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last year. He's a great player, but I think a lot of his

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success last year down the strike was
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they had to account for you know, trey Ford keeping the ball and you

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know edge and I think that Kevin
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and when the cloud in there,
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I think that you know, he's
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the ball out quick, you know, trademark you know, quick release and

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everything like that. But you know, he's not going to be the guy

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that's going to really, you know, help your run game in that way.

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getting Kevin Browning is going to be

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a big thing for them in the
next few weeks. They're going to have

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to be a little more creative in
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much they can do with mc cloud
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do think the pass the game looks
very good. I think that you know,

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some of the receivers are looking really
good. I think Eugene Lewis has

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been a bit of a disappointment this
year the first couple of weeks, you

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know, considering he missed most last
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come into this year really hungry and
create a lot of big plays. Obviously

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there's still lots of time for him
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you know, other guys in that
receiving cork getting's clearly mccleob Bethel Thompson still

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has a lot of good chemistry with
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to talk about because the first year
I started making YouTube videos in twenty twenty

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one. You know, I always
did the you know, season predictions for

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the awards and everything like that,
and I actually picked him to win Standney

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Canadian in twenty twenty one because in
twenty nineteen he joined the Stampeders like halfway

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through the season and had like seven
touchdowns or something like that in half a

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season, and I thought, Okay, you know, second year in the

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league, you know, improved training, I think he's going to have a

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big breakthrough year. And it just
never happened. And he's bounced around to

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a couple of different spots since then
Montreal and then Hamilton last year, and

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then you know, comes into Edmonton
as basically insurance, and I believe that's

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what Dave Camp said, and you
know, he won a job and he's

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looked very good and he's a big
part of this offense in the early going

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here, So really happy to see
that from him. Dylan Mitchell looks like

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he's primed for a bounce back year
after an underwhelming last year. So there's

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lots of love on this Elk's offense. But I think, you know,

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their defense is what I have a
bigger problem with. And again, the

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turnovers on offense are really the one
key thing that has really shot themselves in

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the foot. Yeah, I wanted
to co sign you with the Kevin Brown

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here because I remember, because you
know, Wilder got hurt whatever part way

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through last year had to retire and
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it was really halfway through the season

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and it was kind of that trade
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and it felt like finally that was
kind of the back they needed because

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it was such a drop down for
Wilder with all of that. Was it

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getting Junior that had the or excuse
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I'll get to that in a minute. I got another short about that,

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but no, my other thing was
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highlights again this morning with McLeod and
it was so funny because like, you

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know, he's sitting there getting paid
like half a million dollars and he's looking

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around. You know, there's like
fifteen people in the stand to you know,

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to juxtapose that with BC and they've
got sold out and like, you

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know, what did the cost to
get fifty in there? But you're you

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got fifty thousand people buying popcorn and
stuff, and I'm like, because they're

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making half a million dollars but not
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kind of a really weird dynamic,
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least on that side as well.
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It just feels like, I don't
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after the game and he's walking over
and shaking Jason Ass's hand, like,

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I just don't know, I don't
know what was the future holds for Chris

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Jones. Well, I mean,
I gotta give credit to the Three Down

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Nations guys. I was listening to
their podcast the other week, and their

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prediction is, you know, after
a week five, that's when Chris Jones

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gonna get let go, because I
think they have a week six by and

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you know, they don't look like
they're gonna be a team that's gonna be

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able to string many wins together till
then, and I think, you know,

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it's very realistic that they can still
have zero wins by then, and

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ultimately, you know, that's probably
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you know, at point the losses
just keep piling up. It doesn't matter

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what state your team is in.
I mean, it's like for Hugh Jackson

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when he was with the Cleveland Browns. I mean, I think one win

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over two years. You know,
they had that whole process that they were

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doing. But I think you know, at the end of the day,

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you have to win some games,
and you know, Chris Jones just hasn't

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been doing that in the last few
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Edmonton. Well maah, I mean
we've talked about this before, but at

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some point, it's it's a definition
of insanity. And you've had Chris Jones

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there and you've given them the time. And I remember because it was a

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huge deal when he came in,
like obviously you know the history of all

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that stuff, and I remember,
like Rod and everyone was going crazy about

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all that. And then now it's
insanity. And then the trade for thing.

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00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.839
We've talked about that, whether it's
personality or otherwise, but like now

409
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:41.759
you're you know, you're buying McLoud
to come in to kind of like offset

410
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.480
and you put it. Okay,
now now we're doing this kind of kick

411
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.279
the can down the road. But
at some point you've had enough. And

412
00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:49.599
I love him and I respect him, and he's been on the show and

413
00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:53.519
he's a great coach. But like, I mean, I think it's very

414
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.279
obvious, like, O, hey, we're going to bring this in and

415
00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:57.640
do a big splash. But if
you're not changing anything else, and if

416
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:00.440
that wasn't you have the answer that
you one is under your nose anyway,

417
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:06.960
and you're just too foolish or or
blowhard or mentality whatever to see that.

418
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:08.599
Like I can't help you at that
point, but I would have loved you

419
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.680
have seen trey Ford get all the
snaps, come into this season and be

420
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.920
ready to go as supposed to further
delay in all this, and then Chris

421
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.839
Jones gets out of there, then
you got McLeod. It's like lame duck

422
00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:21.880
quarterback situation. Like I just think
that makes to be a mess. And

423
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:26.000
like McCleod will be fine, right, Like he's good and said and you

424
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.200
know, career wise and life wise
and everything. But then you're leaving trey

425
00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:30.960
Ford here languishing, Like I just
I don't like that, and I just

426
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:36.119
think it's kind of set up for
failure at this point. Yeah, I

427
00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:37.920
feel the same way about Chris Jones. Loved the guy as a person.

428
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.599
I'm happy that he's in the league, but I think his time as a

429
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.200
head coach in this league, you
know, like he you know, went

430
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.880
off to a great start when he
was with Edmonton, you know, one

431
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.359
that great cop, but he also
had you know, a star level quarterback

432
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.599
in Mike Riley, and I think, you know, he didn't come into

433
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:57.519
this situation with an established quarterback,
and I think that's a big part of

434
00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:02.599
the problem. This team just you
know, just can't decide what direction they

435
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:07.720
like want to go full time at
quarterback. I think, you know,

436
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:11.960
it's gonna be very interesting to see
what direction they go with the next head

437
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.759
coach, assuming that Chris Jones doesn't, you know, make a massive turnaround

438
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.000
here. I mean, do they
go with more of an inexperienced guy,

439
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.640
you know, one of the up
and coming coordinators around the league, or

440
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.000
do they go with them, you
know, a guy that's been a head

441
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.039
coach before. I know, those
guys aren't hanging around them too much.

442
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:30.680
But you know, it's gonna be
very interesting to see because they're in a

443
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.599
very dire situation and I'm just very
interested to see, you know what the

444
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.799
new owner, which, by the
way, this team may get sold in

445
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.519
this season. According to Dave Naylor, you know, it's gonna be very

446
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.559
interesting to see what the ownership group
decides to do once they come in.

447
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.599
Well, and as we talked about
this before, but in any other situation

448
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:51.599
where you had a GM that's kind
of keeping an eye on things that isn't

449
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.839
Chris Jones and you have ownership that
isn't in flux and we're trying to sell

450
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.759
this, like, I think that
there's just a lot more scrutiny on what's

451
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.960
going on where. I mean,
obviously there is that it's a lot of

452
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.680
on Edmon team, but I feel
like you would have a lot more internal

453
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.200
pressure there as well. And I
just don't know the power dynamic there.

454
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.920
But I have a feeling like,
you know, like I am president and

455
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:11.720
teacher and I'm here or principal whatever, and like I don't have to really

456
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.160
deal with anyone and they're dealing,
you know, they're worried about all the

457
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:17.960
sale, and I don't know,
it just feels like a mess. On

458
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.440
the other side here, I mean
Cody Fajardo, I mean, the Alolettes

459
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:25.400
look phenomenal, and I know Tim's
happy about that. He says, great

460
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:30.960
cup banner unveiled Thursday. I'm sure
there'll be plenty of Queen like, I'm

461
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:36.000
sure that'll be fine. But uh, I mean Montreal, Let's looks like

462
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:37.200
the best team in the league,
right I mean they I know Mike had

463
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.599
them number one, but I would
co sign out. I mean the Alolette's

464
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.880
number one team by by a mile
right now. I really don't think they

465
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.400
have a weakness when I look at
them, like, through two weeks,

466
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:49.079
I think that, you know,
if anything, last year, I think

467
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.960
Cody Ferjardo's just ceiling was the weakness
for this team. I thought that,

468
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.119
you know, maybe they just weren't
the most explosive team. But you see

469
00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.599
it this year. He's playing more
loose, he's playing more confident, he's

470
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.039
taking the shots down the field.
Case in point, the first play of

471
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:08.000
the game bomb to keayon Julian Grant
and it really set the tone for the

472
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.880
rest of the game. And he's
a guy that you know, you know,

473
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.559
now that he's had a lot of
starts under his belt in the CFL,

474
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.599
we know he can play at an
acceptable level at his worst. He's

475
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.480
a guy that's willing to take more
chances now that he has that great cup

476
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:25.160
ring and he's really playing like it. And I think another thing is Walter

477
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.240
Fletcher, I think is an upgrade
on Williams stand back from last year.

478
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:33.359
I think Williams standback hasn't looked good
in the first couple of weeks with d

479
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:34.960
C. I didn't think he looked
very good the last couple of years with

480
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.880
Montreal getting up there in age.
And Walter Fletcher, who by the way,

481
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:45.319
was originally traded from Edmonton to Montreal
after having a promising debut with Edmonton.

482
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.200
You know, he looks like an
incredible running back and a great fit

483
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.079
for this offense. Makes plays through
the air as well as on the ground,

484
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.880
you know, pretty exploding back.
So I think you pair that with

485
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.400
you know, a great group of
receivers, you know, a couple of

486
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.400
really good Canadian receivers, which is
always important in the CFL, very hard

487
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.160
to have success if you don't have, you know, at least a couple

488
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:11.000
of good starting caliber receivers or starting
caliber options at receiver. And you know

489
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.759
they have that in Phil Pott and
Julian Grant, and you know Cole Speaker

490
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.000
stepping up as well. I mean
I had that concern, I said last

491
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.039
week that they wouldn't be able to
replace Austin Mack. But I think they've

492
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.599
done a really good job of doing
that so far. Yeah, Phil Potler's

493
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.400
great, as Cliffy with Al's Five
Deck podcast predicted in the beginning, it's

494
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.000
almost like they know that team.
It's almost like they really know what they're

495
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.119
talking about over there with the outlets. But I will say, and it

496
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.880
is, it's such a cool situation
for Cody. You know, we've talked

497
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.519
about this, but like you know, the Saskatchewan and all that, but

498
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.000
I do feel like, you know, and this is such like a stupid

499
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.720
thing like winning the Great cuple like
because it's so hard, but like Cody

500
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.599
is like made now right, Like
if you're Cody, that was the big

501
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.240
Like you know, everything was against
you. You felt that way whether it

502
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.799
was or not, but it certainly
you know, felt that way to Cody.

503
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:02.880
And you are in such a tough
situation and you go to the al

504
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.359
Wettes and you really bet on yourself
and you're there with Moss and you really

505
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.079
kind of prove all the you know, all the doubters whatever you do it

506
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:11.720
and now I feel like, yeah, I can play free, Like I

507
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.559
made forever if I never do another
thing ever in my life, Like I'm

508
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.559
a great Cup winning quarterback and I
had that, Like I just I feel

509
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.759
like he's totally, like you said, just playing free now and it's just

510
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.519
kind of a different level. We
talked last week on here. Cody's a

511
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.440
very emotional quarterback and same with Va. I mean a lot of guys,

512
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.160
but like I don't know, like
I said, the monkey off, It's

513
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.680
like like I was in the runnings
for the Seattle Best Sledding stuff for a

514
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.720
long time and it was always like
and then I won. I'm like,

515
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.319
I don't care if I ever win
again. Now I'm an award winning Like

516
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.160
you don't have to deal with that, but I do feel that way.

517
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.880
And then you have to love this
with the Walter Fledger because they kept talking

518
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.119
about that like, oh it was
with Edmonton. You gotta love that and

519
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.680
him just absolutely running rockshot over at
Edmonton all over the field, like well,

520
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.759
Chris Jones, like you know,
like you always feel that way too,

521
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.359
Like because there was another guy too
with Montreal than that. What was

522
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.839
I going to say here? Charleston
Rambo looked really good. Julian Grant and

523
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.759
we see the one with the that
I texted you, the the one arm

524
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.640
Cat said Dustin Yill said, oh
my god, he's out and he did

525
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:12.480
that. Cole Speaker actually, well
speaker. Yeah, I'm watching on the

526
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.440
trema. I had to get my
Destiny said, oh my god, why

527
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.839
is he going? Why is he
going? But no, I mean Alwt's

528
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.799
looked great, like I said,
Tyson Phil about all that other stuff coming

529
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.240
in. So they're going to have
their home opener Thursday, and I'm looking

530
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.240
to head here Ottawa going in.
It should be a big matchup. I

531
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.039
expect Montreal to ride the emotions and
you know, open up at home,

532
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.680
maybe a way that the tie Cats
did not. We'll get to that.

533
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.000
But what do you make here just
kind of early preview with Ottawa going to

534
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.720
Montreal. Yeah, I mean I'm
very interested to see how, you know,

535
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.920
the audible red blocks offense plays against
the you know, Alouettes defense.

536
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.480
I think that one thing I wanted
to bring up is the Sean Lemon situation.

537
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.880
You know, I think, uh, you know, Dave Naylor said

538
00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:00.880
his arbitration date for that gambling suspension
is set for early July, so we

539
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.759
could play up to four games before
that, and he's clearly when you watch

540
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.960
him, he's clearly a difference maker
out there. Stell like, even at

541
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.079
his advanced age, he's a guy
that makes a difference for that team.

542
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.440
And so you know, with him
out there on Thursday, I think that

543
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.240
it's gonna be very interesting to see
how those Audall Red Blacks tackles do in

544
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.799
that situation. And you know,
I think, you know, Darnel Sanki

545
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.680
another guy that I had a really
good game in this one, you know,

546
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.279
having his first full season as an
Alouette. So I'm really excited to

547
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.599
see how that game plays out.
And I'll be watching it on Thursday.

548
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.440
All right, So let's get move
on here, Let's go and the big

549
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.799
and like I said, we're watching
this up you never doubt, never doubt

550
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:43.319
the I would love to be in
this game. I just like, well,

551
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.559
I got it. I gotta do
that. I gotta do the championship

552
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.200
game stream and all that. But
we didn't go, you know, just

553
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:51.039
to put in perspective, not quite
Great Cup numbers. I think we had

554
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.519
like thirty five hundred and four thousand
people. We had like sixty seven thousand

555
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:58.279
before the Great Cup shows it is
slightly different for that, but it was

556
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.880
good to get all that first off. So obviously we had the fifty cent

557
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.319
thing, which was cool. Have
you been tracking all of the kinds of

558
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.920
controversy where like people came for the
concert and they didn't care about the game.

559
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.000
Have you been tracking any of that
on Twitter? Because I think that

560
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.319
was kind of an interesting debate.
I don't. We don't have to go

561
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.319
super far on it, but I
do think it's interesting, like, you

562
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.880
know, we're bringing people in or
they staying for the game. Is that

563
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.759
better? Is at worse? Like
Amar Doman kind of buying attendance? Any

564
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.680
thoughts on that? Yeah, I
do have thoughts on that. I think

565
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:29.799
that, you know, I hate
the negative discourse around it. I think

566
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.880
that you know, nobody you know, I'm not one of these cfl old

567
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.000
heads that agrees with everything the league
does. I do think the league has

568
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.240
to change some stuff. But when
they do make a good thing, can't

569
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:44.039
we just celebrate that they did a
good thing and they're making the extra effort.

570
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.119
I think that, you know,
obviously a lot of those fall left,

571
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.920
like after the concert. I think
a lot of those people, you

572
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.240
know, it's the same thing with
them. You know, anytime there's a

573
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.440
big you know, music act playing
at a sporting event, a lot of

574
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.920
people are just there for that.
But even if they were taying one percent

575
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.400
or half a percent of those people
that came, I think it's worth it

576
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:08.000
because you didn't get it increased exposure
and you know it just be able to

577
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.280
put out that attendance number. I
think it's absolutely worth it for the BC

578
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.280
Lions. And you know, I
definitely don't agree with the negative, you

579
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:21.199
know, comments that I've been seeing
from people on that. My feeling is

580
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.119
and I agree with you that,
like, uh, you can't scream do

581
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:29.199
something and then people do something and
then it's like not like that, not

582
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.079
like that, and I I,
you know, Paul and I dealt with

583
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.440
that for a long time with kind
of the some of the some of the

584
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.960
CFL online kind of the really really
homer like kind of the three down adjacent

585
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:42.800
kind of there, and they're like, we want more people to cover the

586
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.400
CFL, and then like Paul and
I would tie rightther no, not no,

587
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:46.480
not like that, not like that. It's like, well no that's

588
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.800
not that's not how it works,
right, And we deal with that with

589
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.679
the UFL right, Like, Okay, we wanted to doing and then I

590
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.679
have like, well, we don't
like your take, like not, you

591
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.360
know, you can't kind of control
the narrative the whole way across there.

592
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.639
But I agree with you, like
he's taking the swing, he's buying attendance.

593
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:06.199
It is what it is. Can
you do that every week? No?

594
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:07.880
But like you said, you get
fifty two out what was it,

595
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.000
fifty two, seven hundred whatever the
heck? It was in their biggest home

596
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.599
open there in franchise history. Like
even if you retain one percent of that,

597
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.599
they're making it back off of you
know, the merch and concessions and

598
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.960
kind of everything else in there for
that, Like, I think you have

599
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.840
to applaud that when people are taking
swings, because not all ownership is either

600
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.920
willing to do that or equipped to
do that. Like I think you need

601
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.159
to take that, and especially this
season with you know, BC being in

602
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:36.400
the spotlight hosting the Great Cup and
everything, and I think you you need

603
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.400
to have an owner like a Mardoman
that's willing to kind of take swings like

604
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:45.159
that. Do we lose you?
Yeah, one hundred percent agree. I

605
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:51.239
think that you know it's gonna be
in see. Sorry, you're good.

606
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.559
Okay, Sorry, I was just
saying it's gonna be interesting to see,

607
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.800
you know, if other ownership groups
around the league, when the new Edmonton

608
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.320
own ship groups around the league,
what they try to do to get fans

609
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.119
in the building, because you know, you know, I think this is

610
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:10.599
a good template to at least try
to temporarily boost attendance. And I think,

611
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.960
you know, it would be very
interesting to see, you know,

612
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.800
like I said, what other teams
do. Because I think Amar Doman is

613
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.119
doing great, great things in BC. I don't think you should listen to

614
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.920
the haters. I think you know, he's gonna put on a great,

615
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.039
a great coup festival this year.
And I think, uh, you know,

616
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.760
overall, if you look at the
Lion's attendance, it is up over

617
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.800
though. I think ultimately at the
end of the day, I think,

618
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.800
God, the Lions are doing good
things. Yeah. And also the last

619
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:40.719
thing on that, you know,
just like you said, with the other

620
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:44.360
ownership, it kind of puts that
put you know, puts a target out

621
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:45.320
there of like, hey, this
is what we're doing. I mean,

622
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.360
it kind of encourages other people to
do stuff like that. I you know,

623
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.480
I don't see and again montre Outlett's
ownership great. I don't see them

624
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:58.159
bosting any big you know, big
concerts or anything like that. Thus far.

625
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.400
Here, let's see how you're Internet
peer at Jason. As we kind

626
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.920
of get into this, BC felt
very close to losing this game, Like

627
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:10.159
we watched it live, we watched
the highlights. Today, Calgary looks like

628
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:14.840
the better team. I thought,
kind of general overall thoughts of this game,

629
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:17.679
and then we can dive down into
some players. Yeah, I mean,

630
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:22.559
there's never necessarily a good loss,
but I think Calgary looked very good

631
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:28.079
in this game. I think that
you're starting to see those good signs from

632
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.920
Jake Maher again. I think that
is so important for this team obviously for

633
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.000
them to have success this season.
And I think, you know, the

634
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.280
receivers are starting to make plays.
I think Jalen Philpott being back out there

635
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:43.280
that is huge for this team after
missing all of last year. I think,

636
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.760
you know, their defense still not
taking the ball away and I think

637
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.519
that was really the difference in this
game. Is that one interception that Mayor

638
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.360
threw, which was his fault,
granted because he did like kind of aim

639
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.559
it was a short pass. He
aimed a little too much, went a

640
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.920
little high, deflected, and was
intercepted. So I think that was a

641
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.480
big turning point in this game.
But I think otherwise they were punched for

642
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.159
punch with BC much more competitive in
this game than they were a year ago.

643
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:12.480
And I think when you look at
the history of the last couple of

644
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.519
years between these two teams, you
know, BC has really you know,

645
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:21.039
took control of the series, and
you know it's been really one sided.

646
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.719
So I think Calgary should hang their
hat on that and be able to you

647
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:30.320
know, come out next time and
potentially get the W against them, like

648
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:35.480
to me, and like you said, way different than maybe kind of last

649
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.199
year, where oh Calgary's coming in, you know, chalk this in the

650
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:43.400
win column. We're at home,
Like I am scared of Calgary right now.

651
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.159
Like I watched these games and I
watched the physicality, especially the physicality

652
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:51.079
they run as well, Like Calgary
really scares me in a way that I've

653
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.559
said before. I'm hearing kind of
the softness of BC, Like Calgary just

654
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.960
looks really impressive. And then we've
taught like like what did they change in

655
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.000
the offseason, Like what did they
move? Like it just feels like a

656
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.519
totally new breadth of energy are there. I don't know. To me,

657
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:07.400
they feel like they're firing on all
cylinders and maybe maybe I don't know that's

658
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.840
a bad thing, and just how
long the CFL season is, but it

659
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.960
feels like they're at least cresting pretty
high right now. Well, I think

660
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:16.920
the biggest thing for them is that, you know, their biggest addition was

661
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.480
the players that got healthy over the
offseason, because I think this was the

662
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.199
most injured team. Quote me up, I'm wrong, but I think that,

663
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.000
Like, correct me if I'm wrong, I should say, but I

664
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.159
think they were the most injured team
by the end of last season, the

665
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:36.519
most players on injured reserves. So
I think that, you know, just

666
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.920
by that alone, I think they
should improve, and I think we have

667
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:45.119
seen that through a couple of weeks. I think BC you're also seeing the

668
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.639
opposite side of that because they lost
a couple of players in the playoff game

669
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:52.679
last year against Winnipeg. You know
TJ Lee, longtime leader in that secondary.

670
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:57.639
You know secondary didn't play terrible in
this game. But I think they're

671
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.280
still missing him back there. And
then Keon, I think, you know,

672
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:04.960
missing him. I think he's arguably, he arguably was their best receiver

673
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.039
last year. So I think that
you know, having those two guys missing

674
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.920
right now for BC, they just
a little bit of that upside that they

675
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.880
did and that explosiveness that they had
last year. So I mean, I

676
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:21.719
think that it kind of closes the
gap between you know, the bottom teams

677
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.039
in the West and the top teams
in the West. Well, I think

678
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:28.760
if you look here, even in
Vernon's kind of receiving core Hereal Hollands and

679
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.239
mcginnit's getting kind of the bulk of
that. But I really it doesn't feel

680
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.159
like it spread out maybe as it
normally used to be with that with it

681
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.800
felt like Va had five or six
targets that he could really go to consistently.

682
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.480
McGinnis I think has looked really good. Hollands had I think it was

683
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.880
Holland's had the ball basically in the
breath, like over the shoulder, right

684
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.639
in his hands, bounced up,
was almost picked, came back and got

685
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.239
the end of the touchdown later on
to kind of make that up. But

686
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.039
like you have to catch that,
I mean, you can't he I mean,

687
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:58.519
it's hitting him in stride, perfect
throw from Va. You know,

688
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:00.639
stand back here trying to get something
going. I agree with you. I

689
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.400
don't know, I stand back.
We talked about this last week with the

690
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.519
you know, Vernon bringing him in
and the friendship and all that, and

691
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.639
then Vernon still taking way too many
hits here. I don't love how you

692
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:15.000
have Vernon as the short yardage guy. I know pre Coop was playing right

693
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.360
with with Edmonton, right in my
fever dream with all that stuff, But

694
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.199
I don't know, to me,
the way too long of a season,

695
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.840
that'd be Vernon having QB sneaks here
and in the second game of the season.

696
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.360
Yeah. Absolutely, I think that
you know, Va is not the

697
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:35.880
biggest guy either. He's not a
guy that you want take. Like you

698
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:37.599
said, I think, you know, he's a valuable player for this team.

699
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.280
He is, you know, has
really become and grown into this team's

700
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:44.920
franchise quarterback, if you will.
And I think you know, he's still

701
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:46.920
playing very well. I think that's
a good sign. I think that he's

702
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:52.199
still playing at a sustainable level that
he did last year. So I think

703
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:54.159
that is a really good sign.
But I think, uh, at the

704
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.639
end of the day, like you
said, they they they're not spreading the

705
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.599
ball around like they used to in
that receiving corps. A couple of rookies.

706
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:07.239
Aidan Aberhart, he had the nice
reception in this one, but beside

707
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.039
that, didn't have any other targets. Travis Fulgum, I think he was

708
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:14.719
a guy that you know, was
a draft pick and got some playing time

709
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.079
in the NFL, but he got
a lot of targets in this one didn't

710
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:22.760
take advantage. I don't I can't
remember if those throws were just off from

711
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.639
Vernon or what. But I think, you know, want to see more

712
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:29.119
production out of those other guys in
the receiving corps, and I think,

713
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.920
you know, they just look like
a less potent offense this year than they

714
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.320
did a year ago. I think
their defense looked better this week. I

715
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.880
thought against Toronto they looked pretty poor
defensively, but this week against Calgary they

716
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:45.320
were able to stop the run,
which is something that they've been lamented before

717
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.639
for not being able to do,
especially in those matchups going up to Winnipeg.

718
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.639
So I think, you know,
the additions of Christian Covington up front

719
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.760
that's really going to help them in
that regard. He had his first career

720
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.079
CFL sack in this one. And
if you didn't know, he's actually the

721
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:06.840
son of Rob Covington, who is
the CFL's all time leading sac leader who

722
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.039
played his entire career with Hamilton.
So I'm good to see that for Covington.

723
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.400
Hopefully it continues as he gets more
adjusted to the CFL game after playing

724
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.840
a long time in the NFL.
So I think there's some good signs for

725
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.840
BC, but I think at the
end of the day, they need to

726
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.559
still show that upside and a big
test is coming up this Friday against Winnipeg.

727
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:30.480
Yeah, now I want to touch
on that. And yeah, it's

728
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.320
like it's like the whole thing with
Vernon, you know, has had injury

729
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.199
history even last season, lower body
injury history, you know, foot,

730
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.159
leg, ankle, kind of whatever
that banged up, and that's his strength.

731
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.039
I mean, Vernon running, passing, in motion, escaping. Like

732
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:51.679
I just and I'm not a football
coach, but I just I can't where

733
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.960
that is still his strength. And
God knows how long he's going to be

734
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.559
able to be that mobile, just
with age and kind of everything else,

735
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.800
but like still having that mobility and
then like, yeah, we're also just

736
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:02.239
going to throw him into a pile
of you know, ten other guys like

737
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.039
like that. That just seems like
a great situation where that's like the one

738
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.840
difference he has over like at Trevor
Harris, right, even like Cody and

739
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.199
Cody can run, I mean,
Cody can get some action going, but

740
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.559
I feel like, you know,
Vernion is a couple steps quicker and kind

741
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.360
of more more mobile than that.
Just really weird to me. And like

742
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:22.960
you said, here coming up against
Winnipeg, like let's kick them all.

743
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:27.360
They're down BC. Winnipeg traditionally owns
you, especially at home, Like let's

744
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.079
come in here, let's take care
of business. I hope that they step

745
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.360
up. I mean to me,
this is a huge game. You know

746
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.480
it's early in the season, but
start making some separation because you know these

747
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.159
games you're gonna come back in the
end, Like we talked about this all

748
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:43.719
last year, like, oh well, like you know what's gonna come back

749
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.639
to the final two weeks of the
season. Who's got home field advantage,

750
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.239
So go in there, you know, kick a wound to the animal.

751
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.760
I don't know, I mean,
if Winnipeg starts owing three, I don't

752
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:53.639
know which would be more surprising BC
one and two or Winnipeg. I mean,

753
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:57.519
clearly Winnipeg going through, but either
one, it doesn't feel like any

754
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.840
either team can really afford this losses
early. Yeah, I mean I was

755
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.440
starting to contemplate, like when we
saw how Calgary was really hanging in this

756
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.280
game, what would it be like
if BC and Winnipeg started oh and two

757
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:13.719
and it looked like a very real
possibility for a while there, but ultimately

758
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.880
BC gets to win there, I
think. Yeah, Like I said,

759
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.800
huge game on Friday, I think
that, you know, Winnipeg, I

760
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.039
mean, you can't count anybody out
in the CFL, because we did see

761
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.840
once upon a time win five team
go on to win the Great Cup,

762
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:30.679
and that was BC back in twenty
eleven. So things can happen in the

763
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.960
small league like this, where it's
relatively easy to make the playoffs and you

764
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.440
know, get hot at the right
time. But I mean, you don't

765
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.199
want to start oh and three.
I think you don't even want to start

766
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.679
one and two if you're the Lions
because it's going to be a very tight

767
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:49.159
race because we'll get to them in
a minute. But Sasketch one also looking

768
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.800
very good despite playing kind of sloppy
the first couple weeks, but coming out

769
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.400
with a couple of victories. So
yeah, it's going to be a very

770
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:59.639
interesting year in the West. Last
thing for me, and we were talking

771
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:01.840
about this, I was talking about
this with Andy and Anthony and kind of

772
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:06.199
the whole BC of it all.
Like I love Rick Campbell and you know

773
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:08.679
it, certainly BC has had a
lot of success, but like, I

774
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:14.039
don't know here. I mean,
you got to see and especially with you

775
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:15.159
know, hosting and everything this year, but like, I just feel like

776
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.960
they've had so much talent on the
roster the last couple of years, and

777
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.400
you know, the big addition here
a standback, and we kind of would

778
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.440
be poop poo back and forth about
that and this whole Crew Cup thing,

779
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:27.880
Like I just don't know, I
don't want, I don't He's not on

780
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.360
a short leash, but I feel
like he should. Like I don't know

781
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:31.920
if if Rick is the guy here
to get them over the hump later,

782
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.440
I don't know. Curious if you
have any updated thoughts on Campbell, because

783
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.880
we were talking about it, Like, I don't know if it's if it's

784
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.440
a coaching style, if it's whatever. It just it always feels like a

785
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:44.760
little too lax Like. I get
that he's like a hard edged guy,

786
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:49.440
but it doesn't feel like it always
comes across that way. I mean,

787
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.519
I've depending with myself for years whether
or not Rick Campbell is a good CFL

788
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.079
head coach or not. I mean, he did win a great Cup with

789
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:59.639
the on one but that team,
let's remember, was eight nine and one.

790
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.199
I believe they were They had a
losing record that year, and they

791
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:05.960
had a couple of good years in
Ottawa where they had a winning record,

792
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.760
but otherwise I believe they had a
losing record over the course of his tenure

793
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:13.079
there. And then he comes to
BC. They have Mike Riley at the

794
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.440
beginning, have a disappointing year,
and then you know, I think because

795
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.679
of the what you call it,
they because he was a first year head

796
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.679
coach, they didn't I didn't let
him go after that first season with BC,

797
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.039
and so he kind of catches fire, you know, two years ago

798
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.400
with Nathan Rourke, and then last
year he has some sustained success and I'm

799
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:34.519
thinking, oh, maybe he is
actually a good coach. But you always

800
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.159
wonder what stratically does he bring to
the table. I mean, I think

801
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.280
he's more of a defensive guy.
You look at his background, but I

802
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:44.519
don't think he doesn't call plays.
I don't think he's you know, a

803
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.440
guy that Yeah, I don't think
he's a guy that like innovates very much.

804
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:51.480
I think, you know, I'm
obviously not inside the locker room,

805
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.760
but I don't think you're seeing the
adjustment mid game with him. And I

806
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.639
think, uh, like I said, I've always debated with myself whether or

807
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:00.320
not this guy is a good coach
because I think he's made that you know,

808
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.079
middle line where it's like, if
you're better than Rick Campbell, you

809
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.880
are a good coach. But if
you're worse than Rick Campbell, I think

810
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:09.400
you probably need a new coach.
No, I agree. I think that's

811
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.360
really good. I appreciate you kind
of being as just eloquent with that and

812
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.440
kind of I don't know, just
just because I agree with that. Also

813
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:22.280
to me, Ryan Phillips kind of
questionable right now, where it felt like

814
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.000
he was kind of the hot shot
coach and you know, kind of the

815
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:28.599
coach and waiting and all that.
Like, I don't feel like BC's defense

816
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:31.480
is like exceptional and obviously him getting
he had probably the last year ride he

817
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:35.159
was the full DC and then now
that I mean people were talking about him

818
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.440
taking overhead coaching positions, thoughts on
him and just kind of that before we

819
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.840
get to the last game. Yeah, like I said, I thought their

820
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.920
defense played very poorly Week one against
Toronto, especially against a guy and Cameron

821
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:52.000
Duke said, who had you know, made very few starts before that point.

822
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:53.639
But this week I thought they looked
okay. I thought, you know,

823
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:58.639
nothing too concerning from that perspective.
Like I said, I think they've

824
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.880
had some changes on that team.
You know, Josh Woods is a guy

825
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:07.079
that's starting in the linebacking core for
them. Now they kind of a look

826
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:12.360
to try to make it a more
run stopping heavy defense than they were more

827
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.159
of a pass defense defense before.
So it'll be interesting to see how it

828
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.800
plays out over the course of the
season. Obviously, last year you had

829
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:24.239
the Donut Boys with you know,
those two shutouts against Edmonton. But it's

830
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:29.159
gonna be interesting to see how they
play against some of these better teams and

831
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:34.239
better offenses in the CFL as we
go forward with the season. Last game

832
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:38.079
here, let's get to got a
heartbreaker. Now has the Father's Day.

833
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.679
We had a lot of touchy,
a lot of talk about the UFL the

834
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.119
championship game being on Father's Day.
Did you make it out to the Hammer

835
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:51.280
on Father's Day? I did.
Yes, I saw every single second of

836
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:52.480
this one, and boy, it
was a great game. I mean from

837
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.760
an objective perspective, it was a
great game. But yeah, the tight

838
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.280
Cats always seem to be on the
wrong end of these. Yeah, So

839
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.719
the thoughts on this here, I
mean, okay, let's start on the

840
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:08.639
positive. Bow's back, right,
like bo is officially is he back?

841
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.960
Yes, it kind of looks like
it. It looks like you're starting to

842
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.199
see you know. Yeah, the
numbers are there, obviously, great numbers.

843
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.480
Definitely the best game I saw from
Bow in a long time, bar

844
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.360
none. But I think just the
you know, the physical health you're starting

845
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.719
to see. I think he's moving
around so much better than he has been

846
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:34.119
the last couple of years. He's
taking the deep shots down the field and

847
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.880
actually connecting on them, because how
many times have we seen last couple of

848
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.159
years taking deep shots down the field
and just you know, it's sailing over

849
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:44.440
receivers heads. So I think at
the end of the day, you know,

850
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.880
this is the biggest positive to take
away from this game. If you're

851
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:52.199
Hamilton. You have other guys on
this offense that are playing well right now.

852
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.039
Some of that aren't playing well.
Tim White unfortunately just had a couple

853
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.800
of rough weeks. But like I
said last week, I think, you

854
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:01.800
know, very inconsistent player, He's
gonna pop off one of these weeks for

855
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.679
like one hundred and fifty yards.
You just know what's gonna happen. But

856
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.159
I think at the end of the
day, some untimely drops and I think,

857
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:13.880
you know, if they just make
a couple of different plays, right,

858
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.719
I think they win this game.
Obviously. Yeah, Butler looking good,

859
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:21.039
kind of running all over the field. I just like to me,

860
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.920
I because we caught the last half
of this game. We had just got

861
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:27.599
done with the championship beginn We're back
at the bar with all the UFL people,

862
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.920
we're watching the game. We knew
that Saskatchewan won with a kickoff,

863
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:35.079
with a walkoff kick right, like
kind of all that stuff. But even

864
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.920
I'm rewatching the game this morning,
and I'm like, Okay, I understand

865
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:39.719
the Saskatchewan was this game. I
don't really know how though, because it

866
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:45.519
really felt like the tie Outs were
the better team leading up to I don't

867
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:49.679
know, the last ten minutes of
the game. Yeah. Absolutely. I

868
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.440
think the biggest thing though, is
that Hamilton did not step on their throat

869
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.239
when they had the lead. I
think they just let him hang around in

870
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.599
that ten point range. And I
think you really have to get to that,

871
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.920
you know, to score or two
touchdown lead in the CFL to field

872
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:07.119
any sort of comfort. Because even
with four minutes left in the game,

873
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.159
which I believe that's when saskatchwon,
you know, scored their you know,

874
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.400
first points to get it up back
to not first points of the game,

875
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:16.400
but first points to cut the deficit
to seven points and then you know,

876
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.880
you can get it quick to and
out and get the ball right back in

877
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.679
the CFL, so you really don't
need much time to make some you know,

878
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:28.639
make up some ground, I think, and Saskatchewan really did that and

879
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:31.639
we'll get to them. But they
look really good offensively. I think that,

880
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:34.880
you know, Trevor Harris, I
mean what it's worth it, you

881
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:37.800
know, two weeks into the season, probably the MP runner right now,

882
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:42.159
but like I said, long long
way to go on that one. But

883
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.440
read your take from the preseason is
not looking too good with the Trevor Harris,

884
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:52.360
But it's not looking good that I
wanted to talk about this because and

885
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.519
I saw Hodge going crazy about this
as well, like the penalties that the

886
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:59.320
Riders are facing, and we got
a penalty problem, like they're two and

887
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:02.119
O like who cares. Yeah,
I mean, these are the type of

888
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:06.199
things you can complain about, but
at the end of the day, what

889
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.880
really matters, like you said to
and oh, and I think, yeah,

890
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:13.320
like that's kind of the scary thing
about them is that they haven't played

891
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.079
very you know, clean football through
two weeks. They've had some turnovers,

892
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.920
they've had a lot of penalties,
like you said, lead in the league

893
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.679
in penalties. Uh, but you
know, at the end of the day,

894
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.679
and and obviously they've had to come
back from uh you know, multiple

895
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.000
you know, deficit, double digit
deficits, uh, two weeks in a

896
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.760
row. So they haven't played perfect
football, but there's still too and oh

897
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.199
and I think, you know,
under our new coach, those things are

898
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:38.880
gonna be you know, corrected.
And I think at the end of the

899
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:43.480
day, you know, soa Skatchwan's
looking pretty good here and they're only going

900
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.000
yeah, let's talk when you know, let's talk the A J L L

901
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.800
Like how how is he looking here? I know we I think we said

902
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:53.960
first week he wasn't looking maybe back
up to up to form, But what

903
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:59.599
do you make about aj Yeah,
he's he's been pretty quiet the first couple

904
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.760
of weeks. I don't know if
that's because defenses are kind of loading the

905
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.920
box against him or you Knowchan's offensive
line isn't as good as Toronto's, which

906
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:12.239
I definitely don't think it is as
good. But yeah, just not the

907
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.519
reduction you want to see early on
this season. But the passing game is

908
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.440
more than made up for it.
I think you're seeing a lot of guys

909
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.239
really step up and have really good
chemistry with Trevor Harris. You know,

910
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:27.719
Jered Sterns really had a big breakthrough
game in this one. I can see

911
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:31.079
him being a huge part of this
offense now with Sean Bain left the game

912
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:35.079
with injuries, so we'll see if
he misses multiple weeks. But I think

913
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:38.239
Jared Stearns is a guy that's gonna
step up in his absence if he misses

914
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:43.559
extended time and play a bigger role. Keon Schaeffer Baker one of the best

915
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:45.440
Canadians receivers in the league. We've
seen that the last couple of years,

916
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.920
and I think, you know,
he's a guy that you know, is

917
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.639
more able playing you know, a
number one or number two receiver role in

918
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.719
this league. So I think this
is a team that has a lot of

919
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:00.079
talent, a lot of flexibility on
the offensive side of the ball. I

920
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.239
think if their offensive line can hold
up, which is the biggest question,

921
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:07.000
you know, I think this is
going to be a very offense this year.

922
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:08.840
And I think, you know,
trumfor Harris deserves a lot of credit

923
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:14.599
for looking like he's in great shape
at thirty eight years old. Them read

924
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:17.400
and I think that he's going to
be a guy that as long as he's

925
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:22.440
healthy, this offense is going to
keep coming. Yeah. So the last

926
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:23.679
thing here will kind of round this
out. Here, I get out of

927
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.679
here at the top of the hour, Hamilton, oh and two here,

928
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:29.800
I like I said, I thought
they looked really good in the game.

929
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:32.079
I feel like Bo really joeing with
the guys, and I think he's good

930
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:37.119
to be back. I'm obviously like
having a lot of rest here through the

931
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:38.880
last half of last season and kind
of like, you know, even if

932
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:42.159
he's a little bit older here,
Okay, he's been able to kind of

933
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.239
make some time, you know,
on the side, kind of rebuild all

934
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:49.480
that. Like I think Hamilton looks
good. Like I said, they're oh

935
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:51.880
and two are are they too far
out? I mean, what do you

936
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:53.440
make about that? Because to me
it feels like they can still be competitive

937
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.159
here. I just feel like this
game was an interception, you know,

938
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:59.280
turn over there right at the end, put him in field, Go Ray

939
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:00.800
and Drels got You know, this
is going to overtime and god knows what

940
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:06.639
happens. Like doesn't feel like Campbelton's
day and two team. Yeah, definitely.

941
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.719
I think they've had some great moments
in these games. Against Calgary,

942
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:15.039
they made it a very competitive game
despite not their best and last week I

943
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:16.400
thought they were the better team,
or this week, I should say I

944
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:20.320
thought they were the better team.
But honestly, speaking as a fan,

945
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.880
I'm just so tired of them starting
off the seasons like this. I mean,

946
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:27.119
they've been doing this all my life
basically, you know, the last

947
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:29.880
three years in particular, so I
think this is the third year in a

948
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:32.760
row they've started owing two. If
they lose next week, it will be

949
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:37.159
the third straight year they start owing
three, and last year they actually started

950
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:38.719
going four, so we'll see if
they do that. But I mean,

951
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:44.480
you can overcome it, like I
said in the CFL, I mean big,

952
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:45.840
you can make up ground, especially
with a lot of the head to

953
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:50.679
head matchups, but you don't want
to keep digging yourself such a big hole.

954
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:52.280
And you know it basically, you
know what it does. It doesn't

955
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.840
eliminate you from making the playoffs,
but what it does early in the season,

956
00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.800
it kind of eliminates you from that
first place race. And I think,

957
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.440
you know that's going to be so
crucial to winning the Great Cup.

958
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.000
It's very much easier just to win
that one game and get to the Great

959
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.840
Cup. And you talked about it
all the time with BC that it's just

960
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.519
much easier to do that and you
know, win a game at home than

961
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:16.840
it is to win two games to
get to the Great Cup like Montreal did

962
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:20.239
last year. So I think at
the end of the day, I'm just

963
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.679
tired of it. As a ty
Cats fan, I think they need to,

964
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:28.719
you know, start getting off to
seasons better. I think they've lost,

965
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:30.639
you know, just going back to
last week, but they lost like

966
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:36.800
sixteen the last seventeen, like opening
games of the season. Something crazy like

967
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:38.760
that. It's just been happening all
my life. And like I said,

968
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:43.360
I'm tired of it. Let's look
ahead here, we'll get out of here.

969
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.320
So coming up this week, like
we talked about Montreal having their home

970
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:51.480
opener here with Ottawa Saskatchewan as well
opening at home. You got this,

971
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:53.320
you know already in the season.
We got the home at home here with

972
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:59.519
the Hamilton going back in the Saskatchewan
BC at Winnipeg. It should be competitive

973
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:04.039
there and then Toronto's back I predicted
through the loss for Edmonton, Toronto looked

974
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:07.280
really good week one here. Any
other thoughts looking at these games coming up?

975
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:08.519
I know we talked to Montreal and
all of that at BC, but

976
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:13.000
you know, Hamilton running into the
bus, I mean Saskatchewan, let's say

977
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:15.280
they repeated at home here. Could
you zero and three for Hamilton not gonna

978
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:20.159
be good? Yeah, I mean, let's not talk about that game.

979
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.719
Let's talk about Edmonton Toronto. And
I think one thing I'm looking at in

980
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:28.000
this game is a ploid about the
person's return to Toronto. I'm sure he'll

981
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.760
be have a warm reception given them. He gave a good five years of

982
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:36.719
his career there and obviously was a
huge part of that twenty twenty two Great

983
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.079
Cup winning team, so interesting to
see how he plays in his return to

984
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:43.639
Toronto. Definitely, do not expect
the Elks to win that one. I

985
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:46.280
gave that Toronto is an incredibly hard
place to play. Toronto's coming off the

986
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:52.159
buy this week, so you know
it's gonna be a tough task for Edmonton

987
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:57.000
to win that game. But Edmondson
has looked intriguing. I'll say that the

988
00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.920
first couple of weeks they definitely look
a lot more entertaining than they did at

989
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:04.280
points last year. So I'm a
lot to see if they, you know,

990
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.280
can string together enough plays to keep
it competitive in Toronto. But looking

991
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.880
forward to that game and all these
games next week, well there you go

992
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:15.559
here. A week two in the
books should have UFL insider Mike Mitchell on

993
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:20.599
for Friday's episode. We'll be abbreviated
just Mike this week. I gotta travel

994
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:24.199
across the mountain on Thursday night to
do some work on Friday over in Spokane.

995
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:28.039
We'll do that with Mike and then
Jason. I will be back next

996
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.039
week for our CFL Week three recap, and then I will start getting some

997
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:34.719
player interviews at that point. Once
we're back from the UFL Championship and all

998
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:37.039
of this stuff, I'll get back
on the horse. We'll start getting that

999
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.679
stuff going here for the Friday episodes
now that we're done with UFL coverage,

1000
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:44.559
Jason, anything else before we get
out of here, No, I just

1001
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:47.360
wanted to say that it's looking like
a great season this year. I really

1002
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:52.039
am very optimistic about what we've seen
so far, especially from these quarterbacks.

1003
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.440
I think, you know, Zach
Klaris has been the worst of them,

1004
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:58.440
and I think you know, there's
a good chance he rebounds. So I

1005
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.760
think at the end of the day, that's a great s for the league

1006
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.639
and this season going forward. Well, I agree, and as someone that

1007
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.880
has covered the UFL here the last
couple of weeks of the season, we're

1008
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:10.559
pretty dull just with teams being locked
up and kind of positioning, certain teams

1009
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:15.320
being out beginning of the season.
I do think even even the teams,

1010
01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:17.400
like we talked with Hamilton, like
even the teams that are are are struggling

1011
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:21.519
right now, I think have a
lot of upside to look at. Or

1012
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:23.119
you have teams like Winnipeg where you're
like, Jesus, what the hell is

1013
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:25.119
going to happen here if they're oh
and three or you know, one and

1014
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:29.000
one and three or oh and three
or you one and four, whatever,

1015
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:32.599
so should be interesting that way.
Be subscribed on here. Appreciate everyone checking

1016
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out Chris with a lot of comments
is always appreciated, and we'll see you

1017
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guys next time. Let's get out
of here. Thanks guys,

