1 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:22,160 What is crack a lack in Hardwoodknos listeners and newcomers first time hardwo Knocks listeners. 2 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,800 I am Damna Valley coming at you solo for a mail bag. This 3 00:00:25,839 --> 00:00:30,760 week was absurd. After we published like ten podcasts last week, I anticipated 4 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,079 more news upcoming this week, so I left everything open to try and do 5 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:38,119 like real time reactions to it. I was cautioned beforehand that we wouldn't have 6 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,960 anything until Summer League got underway in Vegas. I just didn't think that was 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,280 the case. I was clearly wrong. So we're coming at you with a 8 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,640 mail bag. This is probably going to be a two part mail bag. 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,719 If you asked a question via discord, you will definitely have your question answered 10 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:54,960 on this mail bag. If you ask multiple ones, they'll probably be split 11 00:00:55,039 --> 00:00:58,039 up. I went with topical ones for the next one that will drop Monday. 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,880 This is why you should join our scord, the links to which is 13 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,880 in the podcast description and the YouTube description, because you get priority on your 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,879 mailback questions. But I got so many great ones because i'd like to throw 15 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,599 them out to Twitter, that I'm splitting it into two parts and so that 16 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,400 will drop on Monday. This one is coming out on Thursday. Be on 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,719 the lookout for it. 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Let's 35 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,680 dive into this mailbag and really hope that none of this becomes outdated too soon. 36 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:28,280 Again, I went topical here and I'm starting with Discord members are going 37 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:30,520 to get first DIBs on the questions. I have one. It's a reoccurring 38 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Twitter listener that's going to go first as well because he pairs they paired excuse 39 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,360 me with a nice question from Discord and it's on Kevin Durant and holy shit, 40 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:43,240 like as this is coming on my mouth, who knows that could become 41 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,639 outdated in millisecond. So we belly flop into mailbag. Now, Ryan asks 42 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,719 how long do we give the patience of the league on the Kadi Kyrie trades 43 00:02:52,759 --> 00:02:55,240 before the rest of the NBA gets restless and starts making moves Again, this 44 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,000 is paired with a question from Kade on Twitter. What are the chances Phoenix 45 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:01,919 keeps Mchael Bridges in a k D trade? So let's begin with Ryan. 46 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,479 Look, the league did not completely shut down during fregency. Most of like 47 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,000 the big stuff is done. The things that I think we're waiting to see 48 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,960 are DeAndre Ayton's next contract. Is that coming as a sign and trade that's 49 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:17,960 part of a KAD deal going to Phoenix? Is it a straight sign and 50 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,120 trade elsewhere at this point, if you're looking for teams that into the moratorium 51 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:27,840 will be able to have the flexibility necessary to leverage an offer sheet, there 52 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:30,319 is Indie eventually or San Antonio, and then that's basically it, which is 53 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:34,479 why I think if he's leaving Phoenix and ends via sign and trade, Dad 54 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,039 is definitely gonna wait on the KD outcome for sure, I would guess. 55 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:38,199 I mean, I could be wrong here. I've been wrong about a lot 56 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:42,800 of things already. The rest of the stuff, Like I don't think Colin 57 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,639 Sex did not having signed. I really don't think that that's anything to do 58 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,759 with the Kevin Durant stuff. I think what you might see though, is 59 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,759 the trade market will be a lot different and you'll see certain teams like Phoenix 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,360 has made moves on the margins Bismack Bionbo, Damian Lee. We've seen the 61 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:01,599 Lakers do the same with Lolly Walker. The fourth using their miniml they brought 62 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:04,680 in Thomas Bryant. That was really good signing actually on the veterans minimum for 63 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:09,919 them, but Lakers, maybe even the Heat who still sort of need a 64 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:15,080 four, and then the Sons of course, like we'll see those teams start 65 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,439 to be more aggressive either on the trade market or sign additional free agents. 66 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:23,639 There are other teams though that either maybe they're waiting to see whether they're part 67 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,680 of this huge deal, or they just have these trade targets that teams will 68 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,240 be interested in, and we know they're on the block, and everyone's doing 69 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,759 their due diligence on Kevin Durant first, so Atlanta with John Collins and or 70 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,279 Clint Capela. I can expect that the heat up after the Kevin Durant stuff 71 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:41,040 is over with just Utah and whatever the hell that they're doing. Are they 72 00:04:41,079 --> 00:04:44,399 tearing it down? Are they really rebuilding around Donovan Mitchell, like Danny Age 73 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:47,480 SAIDs we will get to that later in this podcast. I have no idea 74 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:49,959 at this point, but they're probably waiting on some of this. They've been 75 00:04:49,959 --> 00:04:54,319 linked to DeAndre Ayton. I do not understand that. Again, I'll go 76 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,519 in detail more with that in a little bit. So I think we'll start 77 00:04:57,519 --> 00:05:00,759 to see maybe trade rumors pick up and there will be some aditional free agent 78 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:01,879 signs, even the Nets, but they went and they got out with t 79 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,759 J. Warren. Depending on how many roster spots that they have to fill 80 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:09,040 or needs that they're going to have after the KD Kyrie trade, so they 81 00:05:09,079 --> 00:05:12,199 will definitely be more business. I think the trade rumor mill might ramp up, 82 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:15,319 and it wouldn't surprise me if let's just say that Kevin. I think 83 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:17,000 it's the Kevin Durant deal that holing everything up. But like, I don't 84 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,600 know what other team wants Kyrie aside from the Lakers. I could see the 85 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:25,439 Mavericks if the price is right and they want to use picks to wash off 86 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:29,199 some of their like longer term or less savory salaries. But really beyond that, 87 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:30,959 it feels like the Lakers are bust. There. I could see after 88 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,319 the KD trade sort of like this trickled down effect. Were the Raptors eyeing 89 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:41,079 someone on a smaller scale they didn't kick Kevin Durant, or are we going 90 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,720 to see Land all of a sudden make some trades or Utah start willing and 91 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,720 dealing. I could see sort of an on rush of trade transactions more so 92 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,199 than free agency. Smaller signings there for sure, but mostly seeing the trade 93 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:57,360 actual transactions pick up, and certainly the rumors that aren't related to two k 94 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:00,199 D. And then the other thing is like the team that trades for D 95 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,279 might not be done. Are they gonna go out and make other trades? 96 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,240 How many? You know? Presumably it's gonna be a consolidation trade. They're 97 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,839 gonna have to go out on the free agent market. That gets really interesting 98 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,120 as well. So that's what I would expect. To the question posed by 99 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:15,439 Kad of what are the chances of Phoenix keeps Micaal Bridges in a KAD trade, 100 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,040 I want to say it's at about fifty fifty because I know we've heard 101 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:25,120 that the Brooklyn Nets are going to prioritize players. That makes I guess some 102 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,720 sense. If you're planning on moving forward with Ben Simmons, you did already 103 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,079 trade for Royce O'Neil. I just think that in the end you're gonna have 104 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:35,680 to prioritize like picks to some extent. More than that. If it is 105 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Phoenix and we know that Phoenix is Kevin Grant's top choice at this point. 106 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:45,040 If it is Phoenix, they're gonna do everything in their power. I would 107 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,279 imagine to keep mcaal Bridges just because you're not making it out of this with 108 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:54,079 DeAndre Ayton would be my guess, whether he's going to Brooklyn or another team, 109 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,839 you're putting a lot of pressure then on your defense on a Chris Paul 110 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,560 who's getting older. Devin Booker was a lot better lash year, but that's 111 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,360 in part because of the flexibility that Eton and Bridges and then having Jay Crowder 112 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:08,040 there too afforded him. If you remove two of those bodies, life gets 113 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,000 difficult for Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, even Chris Paul they have, you 114 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,920 know, their centers right now are just unimpressive. That rotation without Eton. 115 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,120 What is that going to look like after the fact. So, if you're 116 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,439 the Sons, I think you're doing everything in your power to keep one of 117 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,399 eight Nerd Bridges, and my guess is that you would prefer to keep just 118 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:28,920 Bridges based off how this whole DeAndre eight and saga has unfolded, And so 119 00:07:28,959 --> 00:07:32,639 it wouldn't surprise me to see just everything on the table that is not McHale 120 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:38,720 Bridges, Devin Booker or Chris Paul related for this deal to come through, 121 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,160 and that's they have. The Sons just have all their own picks. They 122 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,800 don't have any picks incoming, but they don't have any picks going out too, 123 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,000 so they can include. However, the Nets want to structure it through 124 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:53,720 twenty twenty nine, swaps and picks alternating in years like that. They have 125 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:57,519 Cam Johnson, they have Jay Crowder, they have other salary matching ballasts depending 126 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,839 on what happens with the DeAndre Eton sign and trade. If anyone listens to 127 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,279 this podcast or read some of the more popular NBA rats, you know that 128 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,759 Bacher compensation comes into play. That makes that difficult. But because it's the 129 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,199 off season and roster's in Brooklyn and then just around the league are so much 130 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,319 more appliable, you can step ladder your way to Kevin Durant with maybe not 131 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,839 necessarily sending out a major salary. I still think Eton would be the major 132 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:22,399 salary. He's just only counting his fifteen million or whatever an outgoing money. 133 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,240 So you have Jay Crowder, then he's at ten point two. Next season, 134 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:30,480 you have Dario sarch expiring nine point three Cameron Payne owed six million dollars, 135 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:33,679 Tory Craig five point one million, Cam Johnson five point nine million, 136 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,320 Landry Shamitt as well nine point five million when his extension kicks in. And 137 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,559 so I could see a scenario in which it's salary ballast, and it's not 138 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,679 even salary ballast. Maybe you're just dangling hey, useful players, Jay Crowder, 139 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:48,039 Cam Johnson, DeAndre Ayton, every single pick and swap under the sun. 140 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,080 Is that the best offer on the table looking at what Miami's offering, 141 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,120 looking at what Toronto's offering. I don't know, but I could see a 142 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:58,720 scenario playing out where the Sun's and I it's not even just in vision. 143 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,440 I would almost expect this to be not just their preference, but something they're 144 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,399 actively angling for, unless they're just like, WHOA, we want to get 145 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,600 rid of both Eighton and Michael Bridges because Roberts starves a cheap ass punk and 146 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,240 doesn't want all these big salaries on the books. Still, if I'm Kevin 147 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,440 Durant, big w for Devin Booker that Katie wants to play with you. 148 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,879 Chris Paul already wanted to play with you. I was not People didn't trow 149 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:22,840 me on Twitter, but they're like, well, haven't you seen Devin Booker's 150 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:24,480 player all Star votes? Yes, I've seen that, but there's a difference. 151 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Like players have given all Star votes to Jamal Crawford, no one has 152 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,559 angled to try and play with Jamal Crawford. Now that we have two just 153 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,559 MVP candidates wanted to go play with Devin Booker. That's fucking cool, and 154 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:37,600 he's already accomplished so much he didn't need the validation. But that's just can 155 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,679 we just say it. It's fucking cool, so good for Devin Booker. 156 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:46,399 Totally not related, but that is my expectation. If you told me that 157 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,879 the Sons are going to be the team that acquires Kevin Durant, I would 158 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:52,639 say I'm gonna step out on limits, say there's better than a fifty percent 159 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:56,600 chance that they keep mcaal Bridges as part of the process, because I don't 160 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,600 necessarily buy into the notion that the Nets want immediate players as my I also 161 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,279 don't know if you already don't have stars in your possession, and I don't 162 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:09,399 really want to get into the Ben simm And stuff with that Michael Bridges is 163 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,120 a contract isn't going to make sense for every team. He is super plug 164 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:16,279 and play. His skill set is universally scalable, but you might need him 165 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:18,840 to play a bigger offensive role than he's capable of if you don't have the 166 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:22,720 right down around him. He is more valuable to mega contenders like the Suns 167 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:26,240 than he would be to a Brooklyn team that even wants to remain competitive. 168 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Is in the infancy of this transition era. So I'm gonna step out on 169 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,440 a limb. I'll probably be wrong. I was already wrong about how this 170 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,440 week would play out. Again. I didn't think it was gonna be a 171 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,440 Kevin Durant trade necessarily. I just thought there'd be other stuff, just based 172 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:43,799 off the murmurings that you know, cascaded down my direction. I as usually 173 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:46,879 ignored the advice of people who are much smarter, more plugged in than I 174 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,320 though. And what's wrong? So we move on. If you're a Suns 175 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,000 fan, you should just buy into what I'm saying, because that is the 176 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,000 dream is to have CP three Michael Bridges, Kevin Durant, and Devin Booker 177 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:58,200 and then just whatever the fuck out. It's like, who who cares, 178 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,360 You'll be fine, and I do not. I've been asked a couple of 179 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,120 times why I curse so much on this podcast. Is really just word vomit. 180 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:07,840 I'm not trying to sound tough or use it for emphasis. I'm sure 181 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:11,399 I've dropped an F bomb for emphasis before. That's just how I talk. 182 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,120 It's more so lighthearted and I'm a clown, a troll, however you want 183 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,519 to phrase it. So I apologize if your children are listening to this. 184 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,080 Clay Thompson has probably flat or guested at the language on this podcast sometimes, 185 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,679 so again, my apologies, and I have been asked about that. I'm 186 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,879 really not trying to be trendy or tougher or cool. I know I'm the 187 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:37,639 opposite. Moving right along Mountain dew seven twenty from bits Chord and Drew, 188 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,240 I would say, based off their Twitter handle hopping on the Chet train early, 189 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:45,120 what are your low, middling, and high expectations for Chet and the 190 00:11:45,159 --> 00:11:52,039 Thunder after his amazing crazy debut on Tuesday. So a few things here that 191 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,919 are tangentially related. One I don't like, I will never call like. 192 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:01,000 There are times where I'll call out Lakers fans or Knicks fans or just fans 193 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:05,559 in general. I never want to loop an entire fan based under one umbrella. 194 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,519 My generalized advice is fan bases should not take their teams so seriously, 195 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:15,240 even if you feel like you're undercovered to the point that you're offended. When 196 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,279 Kevin Clark goes on a Ringer podcast and is making what was clearly just like 197 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:24,519 half Joe calf serious about how the Magic made mistake not taking chet home grant 198 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:28,159 and going with Powel Banco at number one. And Kevin Clark is like the 199 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,960 most nationally recognized Orlando Magics fan in the Twitter sphere. He's a fantastic follow 200 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,159 does a great job covering the NFL and stuff for the Ringer. I get 201 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,360 it that there are not enough podcasts and national media talking about the Magic. 202 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,879 I understand that that's going to rankle fans and as it should, like they've 203 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:45,720 been. I imagine my thoughts on mark el Folts. It's fine that you 204 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,000 don't think I watched mark el Folts or it's pretty clear I watched Franz Voggner 205 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,360 based on where I had him in my Rookie of the Year voting ballot. 206 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:54,120 But it's fine that you want to think that way, and I get that 207 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:58,399 it's you know, if you're trying to do actual takes, that's going to 208 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,799 incite more of a reaction. I did not understand like the outrage that were 209 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,840 throwing Kevin Clark away by a podcast I believe that is affiliated with Blue Ear 210 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:09,240 as well, and it was other podcasts on there too. Jokes are fine, 211 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:15,480 and that's not actively damaging. If people are buying into that as anti 212 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,200 magic propaganda with all sincerity, they're not like they're not someone that you need 213 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,639 to reach at all. And my issue is, I do believe if I'm 214 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:30,799 going to compliment this podcast more, give this podcast any sort of compliment. 215 00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:35,279 I value localized coverage so much because of the detail, the nuance, the 216 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:41,000 savvy with which they're able to cover that team. And you have to admit 217 00:13:41,159 --> 00:13:46,000 that those people, those podcasters, those writers, those media members are going 218 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:50,879 to know more about that team than someone who, like me, is tasked 219 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:56,440 with covering and wants to cover the entire league at large. But I do 220 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:03,759 think like it's okay to not curate the coverage you're exposed to so positively, 221 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,240 like take in some of the negative interaction to understand what's being said out there 222 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,639 and when it's really disingenuous and not presented as a joke. Again, at 223 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:13,840 the end of the day, unless we're talking about stuff that's happening off the 224 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:18,360 court, domestic violence, systemic racism, if we're talking about the actual game, 225 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:24,120 the Magic Organization as an MBA entity, it's not that serious. I 226 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,399 promise you. This is all just like it's sports. It's a game, 227 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:33,080 and it's entertaining. It's lucrative for one, and it means a lot to 228 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:37,679 a lot to a ton of people, including myself. But like it's okay, 229 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,320 and I'm getting to Mountain dew seven twenties question to me, it's okay. 230 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,080 Have the overreactions after Summer League. That's a part of fandom. Fandom's 231 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,960 not meant to be rational. It's just not when you think about how much 232 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:54,279 emotionally you're invested in what these grown adults are doing on a court, Like 233 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:58,960 none of that actually makes sense. It's escapism, it's entertainment. It's awesome. 234 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Him, I freaking love it. You're welcome for keeping that PG. 235 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,600 How about that. But like it's okay, especially when it's a Magic fan 236 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:13,320 and like that is allow them their stream of conscious reactions when it's Kevin Clark 237 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:16,320 and if it is really disingenuous coverage and if I've ever said anything that's actually 238 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,000 disingenuous, I try to not do that. I think, yes, I 239 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:24,639 should absolutely be destroyed, and I have been. I've had DM conversations with 240 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,679 people I've been calling on Twitter. I've also admitted that I'm wrong. AKA 241 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Dallas Mavericks fans at this point probably know what I'm talking about. So I 242 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,879 I just don't understand why it has to be Oh, they need to talk 243 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:37,840 about us more in a positive light, Like no, there's like legitimacy and 244 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,600 what criticism with the Magic where they haven't had the best draft track record that 245 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:46,960 being said, yeah recently, that's not really the case. And you look 246 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,679 at how some of those players panned out. They didn't have immense success with 247 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:52,519 the Magic, but Aaron Gordon's a really good player, Victor Oldipo became an 248 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:56,080 All NBA player after he left Orlando. Jonathan Isaac was a defensive system unto 249 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,039 himself before he got injured. The Magic also their draft track record. They 250 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:03,919 were really able to reboot Mark l Holtz. We don't have to call Jalen 251 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,279 Suggs a bust after one year, and I'm still I mean, I like 252 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,120 Shottie Mars better than Jon Suggs now long term, but I'm like, I 253 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:14,840 still think Jalen sugg is gonna be one of the five seven best players coming 254 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,080 out of that twenty twenty one draft class. I just allow the overreactions, 255 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:22,600 allow the takes, and don't be offended by the ones that don't align with 256 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:30,440 your view of the franchise. There's a difference between misinformed and then like sarcasm 257 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,720 and attempting to actually make a point, even if it might be the wrong 258 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,279 one. Not everything is what I'm getting at is disingenuous. That was my 259 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,200 I guess not so much of him, and he rant. This is all 260 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,440 to say, Chet Homegrin is going to be the greatest player in NBA history 261 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,000 in the Orlando Magic fucked up in all kinds of ways here. That's not 262 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,000 actually how I feel. I've not watched a ton of the Summer League play 263 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,600 to date. I did catch what Chet did. I would like to point 264 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,360 out that he was going up against Taco Fall. The thunder very much intrigued 265 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,000 me. Like, even just looking at what Jalalen Williams is able to accomplished. 266 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,000 Josh Giddy just looks like and I'm lower than most on Josh Giddy. 267 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:11,759 If like I don't, it doesn't even need to say the jumper comes along. 268 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:15,680 But like, if there's like this score first aggressive mentality that sustains for 269 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:18,440 more than a few possessions at a time, that dude might end up being 270 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,079 really good. Because I'm already tracking in the wrong direction with him. He 271 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,160 looks too good for Summer League at this point. So to Drew's question, 272 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,480 and I'm sorry it took me so alone to get here. I am boarding 273 00:17:30,599 --> 00:17:33,759 the CHET train. If we were going low, middling and high expectations. 274 00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:37,720 I don't want to call this the low end outcome, but they're here are 275 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:42,079 the things that would actually concern. The highest end outcome is like Janni's attend 276 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:47,519 to COOPO and Dirk and kar Anthy Towns and Kevin Durant got together and put 277 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:51,640 their DNA together and chet Holgrin's what popped out. But I do think that's 278 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,920 the highest end outcome is like this mix of k D and Jannis and then 279 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,119 like kar Anthy Towns and Dirk, that's when you look at the ball skills 280 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,119 he showed in that one game, and look he got on Wednesday night. 281 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,839 Kenny Lofton Junior is clearly the greatest basketball player alive. So these tags are 282 00:18:06,839 --> 00:18:11,759 fluid and they're they're changing by the minute. That being said, with Chet, 283 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,319 the two concerns I have is will he fill out and get stronger to 284 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:18,599 where he's not just sort of like a shot blocker or defensive disruptor, but 285 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,240 he is someone who makes an impact by being a deterrent simply because he's on 286 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:26,799 the court, or being able to body up with bigger dudes, or you 287 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:29,920 get to a point where you almost need him to be guarding wing type players. 288 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,920 I think that would lower his ceiling just a little bit. The bigger 289 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,920 thing is, and I know we didn't have this opportunity at Gonzaga, what 290 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,880 does he actually become offensively? He probably needs to get stronger if you want 291 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,279 to see him deal with NBA contact, create NBA level separation. He does 292 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:48,799 have the size to just raise up over everyone. If the handle has like 293 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:52,640 a a quicker acceleration speed or like there's less of time it takes him to 294 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,599 process what he's doing. Based off I watched very little of him. I 295 00:18:56,599 --> 00:19:00,240 didn't watch any of him live game in college. I went back I could 296 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:03,920 watch before the draft, and this is basing off summer league. If he's 297 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,920 not able to have those like ball skills become more and the body become more 298 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,240 of like this entire package to where he's gonna go up against stronger, more 299 00:19:12,279 --> 00:19:15,359 athletic NBA defenders. I could just see him needing to be more of a 300 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,920 jump shooter and maybe one of doesn't create for himself. It feels like the 301 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:23,920 low end offensive outcome for him is like a Miles Turner type player, where 302 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,039 yeah, maybe he wants to post up and take guys off the dribble, 303 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:32,160 but you you're better off with him just like camping out on the perimeter and 304 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,799 stretching the floor that way. That might even be unfair, just because there 305 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,839 are a lot of people that think he's gonna end up not even playing a 306 00:19:37,839 --> 00:19:41,400 lot of five or even four minutes at this point, the fact that that 307 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,599 feels like the low end out just watching him though, and I'm not saying 308 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:47,480 he would be the same type of player room protector Miles Turners on defense, 309 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:52,960 that's absolutely incredible. I feel like a reasonable expectation for him might be like, 310 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:56,799 what if Miles Turner was better at dribbling or had an off the balance 311 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,400 game, like a consistent off the bounce game on offense, and then his 312 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,240 defense was like, I don't even know what's a comp for him if if 313 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,440 there's gonna be a mid end outcome there, like a like a Maxi Kleba 314 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,640 on defense. And I'm not trying to make that I'm not really trying to 315 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:17,359 go Caucasian for Caucasian here, I promise just like, yeah, he's really 316 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,680 good. He's gonna be able to hold up on switches, and Cleba is 317 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,839 already stronger than Chet, Like do you trust him to play a bunch of 318 00:20:22,839 --> 00:20:26,920 five or to be your primary big on defense? You'd almost rather throw Like 319 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:30,240 that was the Mavericks made the decision to have him chased around Kwhi Leonard in 320 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:34,559 the playoffs. So obviously not this season, in case anyone is thinking that 321 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:38,799 I've lost my mind. So like a Maxi Kleban on defense with a Miles 322 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:42,039 turn on offense feels like the little bit better than Miles Turner on offense, 323 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:47,319 feels like his mid end outcome less than a or about a miles turn on 324 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,880 offense feels more of the low end outcome there for him. I don't know 325 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,240 what the low end defensive outcome would be for him. Is it just like 326 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:56,960 a I don't even know, just like someone who can't even be like he's 327 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,720 sort of the empty shot blocker type because it's just his rim protection is Again, 328 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:04,640 it's more it's disruptive in the moment more than actual prevention or because he's 329 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,799 making the right reads. So and then the I already outline of the highest 330 00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:11,240 and outcome. I am all aboard the Drew train. This question is also 331 00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:15,720 going to be applied to Seth Justice, who asked Chet with a question mark, 332 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,960 Yes, that is my answer, Chet home Grin with a question mark, 333 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:25,279 I am fascinated by the thunder and look for the thunder specifically, they've 334 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:29,039 got a nice bass going now. I still don't know if I consider Josh 335 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,039 Giddy like the type of blue chip cornerstone to pair with Shay who is the 336 00:21:32,039 --> 00:21:36,279 blue chip cornerstone. I would still I would bet on chet home Grin having 337 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:37,920 a better chance of being that player than Giddy. But the fact that there's 338 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,960 like three candidates there and I'm very interesting, how what they do with Uzman 339 00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:47,559 Jang. They really trust those guys who can be disruptors on defense. Now 340 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:51,799 you have lu Dort lockdown Poku. I thought really started to put things together 341 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,240 last year, and you know he can be all over the place. I 342 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:57,680 saw someone I wish I could credit them on Twitter, but they tweeted something 343 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,759 like he is the best worst case ball at once. They have a ton 344 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,240 of with the two. Jealen Williams is they have a ton of bites at 345 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,359 the Apple here. And I don't know that their timelines is necessarily accelerated. 346 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:14,720 I could see them being like a real defensive irritant next year. But that 347 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:18,400 being said, you fast soward, skip ahead to twenty three, twenty four, 348 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:19,559 and this feels like a team. Are we talking about them? Like? 349 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,839 Oh? Orright? They on that fringe playoff track. It feels like 350 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,640 we are closer to like we've passed. We've at least entered the middle ladder 351 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,720 middle of the thunders rebuild, which is pretty incredible because they still have a 352 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,119 lot of assets coming their way in the form of draft picks. So I 353 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,839 think the Thunder are absolutely gonna be an irritant already, assuming men will start 354 00:22:40,839 --> 00:22:44,240 shutting guys down this season, but they have so many bites at the Cornerstone 355 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,759 Apple now beyond, and I'm throwing hs Mon Jang in there. I really 356 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:49,559 like him, and I really like Poku additional home grin and I'll give everybody 357 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:53,440 Josh Giddy. It feels again I'm tracking toward the wrong end of Josh Giddy. 358 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,640 It feels like so Thunder absolutely going to be a fun watch this season. 359 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,759 Kyle Kay asked, how is DeAndre So, I'm sorry it's still in 360 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:08,640 the league and this has looped in with we had two K two Nuggets questions 361 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:14,680 from Discord members that are coming up. I honestly don't know. He has 362 00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:17,640 mega star friends, which certainly helped him at one point. I think it's 363 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,960 like you watch him, but most recently in Philly, it doesn't seem like 364 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,440 he can jump or really move all that well. He's still kind of like, 365 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,559 I don't trust him to box out as a rebounder, but if you 366 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:30,000 need someone to stand still and grab a rebound if it comes in the vicinity 367 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:34,319 that he's still kind of okay at that and so just that size and then 368 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,359 go like this. I still think the Nuggets could have done better with the 369 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:44,519 minimum, but we're talking about filling less than fifteen minutes a game, probably 370 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,359 with Nicole Yokis there. And then also you have the the ability with Zeke 371 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,119 Naji, Jeff Green and Aaron Gordon to run like a smaller front court where 372 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,039 who's the five in that scenario, Maybe it's Jeff Green defending five. Is 373 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,480 zik Naji as the primary rim protector, YadA, YadA, YadA. You 374 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,160 could go that route. So I don't know why he's still in the league. 375 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,720 That was just I mean that if luckily that was not a harbinger of 376 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:11,279 how the Nuggets off season was gonna go, and they'd already made like the 377 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,160 KCP trade I thought was good, even if it looked like it was cutting 378 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,839 payroll to that end. Though stupid jerk who in discord has been anything but 379 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,240 a stupid jerk In my opinion, this is probably a bit too deep into 380 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:26,000 galaxy brain territory. But does a Super Bowl plus Stanley Cup win't change anything 381 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:30,799 about the Cronkey salary budgeting for the Nuggets, positive or negative? So yet 382 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:36,599 stupid jerk could ask this question before the Nuggets went and did everything in the 383 00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:40,039 off season. Basically we'd stashed this question, so, and it's even more 384 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:41,960 timely now. I don't know if it'll have any sort of impact. I 385 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:45,839 will say, if anything, it should embolden them to be like, Yo, 386 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:48,319 we can we can do this. Granted, one of the markets they 387 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,000 won in was Los Angeles. It's a little bit different. That being said, 388 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,880 they did. They're in the tax right now. They're eleven million. 389 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,200 I have them as eleven million dollars into the tax, give or take like 390 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,759 whatever. The salaries, art cheats are all different. That being said, 391 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:04,039 there's still time for them to get out of it if things go wrong. 392 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:08,799 They've never really skimmed on their own talent. They extended Jamal Murray and Michael 393 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,000 Porter Jr. Rather than letting those guys hit restricted free agency, they just 394 00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:17,240 give the Supermax to Nicole Yokitch. And then when I thought I really thought 395 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,119 they weren't going to use their mini mL E, that Bruce Brown signing. 396 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Hell fucking yeah, probably the best signing of the off season. I would 397 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:29,200 say, what has happened for the Cronkies shouldn't bolden them to keep spending now 398 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:34,880 and they will it change the way that they view executives as maybe interchangeable we'll 399 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,799 see, probably not knowing them, but it absolutely should motivate them to continue 400 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:44,680 spending on the roster, which again, to give them some credit, they've 401 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:48,920 basically always done. We have to see though, and they you know, 402 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,000 we have to see whether they can they can still duck to tack this upcoming 403 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,920 or what I'm saying. But if the Nuggets are contender or even a really 404 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,759 good team, like if you're fourth in the West and you envision of everything 405 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,279 goes right and we're healthy in the playoffs, we can win, then you 406 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:06,920 should still remain in the tax at the end of at the end of next 407 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,279 season. And I expect that even if they hadn't won a Stanley Cup in 408 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,200 a Super Bowl, that's exactly what they would have done. So again, 409 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:18,920 they ducked the tax this past year, I believe because of those I didn't 410 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,079 I should have looked into that more. But yeah, they ducked the packs 411 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,160 last year with that sort of trade. Maybe unless I'm missing something here, 412 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:32,599 but anyway, let's just carry on that they did go that route. But 413 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,440 because of when that trade was completed, is what I mean. However, 414 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,880 like this is I would be shocked at this point the Nuggets if they're good. 415 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,519 I don't expect them to get out of the tax now, even though 416 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,519 they should be around eleven million dollars in like that takes you know, like 417 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,039 that's gonna take a lot for them to get out of. You're not you're 418 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,519 talking about dumping. I guess you could still theoretically do it if it's like, 419 00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,279 okay, maybe Bruce Brown isn't working out and we have shmis expiring contract. 420 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240 Okay, gone, Like, I guess you could go that way if 421 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,240 things go wrong, I would expect them to stay in it, though that 422 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,720 is I feel like that might be a compliment. It's a too strong of 423 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,839 a compliment. Who knows Hernspo from discord ass is Denver considered a contender? 424 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,839 What are they planning to do while having one of the best in the league? 425 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,279 Are they are? They? Are they planning? IM? I want 426 00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:27,359 to check and make sure that I didn't like misread that at all. I 427 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,480 would view them as a as a as a contender if they're healthy. I 428 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,960 think that's a big if. With Michael Porter Jr's back, I'm less worried 429 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,119 about Jamal Murray, not just because we know he's like this like workaholic, 430 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,119 but he's and he has been a tough dude. Ac elandres are just not 431 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,440 the career enders they used to be. And even when he had his best 432 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,799 moments on offense, like yeah, are you alreadys gonna lose some of his 433 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,680 like stop and pop his ass, I suppose even when he had his best 434 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,720 moments on defense, like he was never just pride on being super explosive, 435 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,799 it was just like super tough and stab I'd be more worried about the drop 436 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,440 off on offense, to be honest with you, And I guess you can 437 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,319 worry about it on defense for sure, because Pique Jamal Murray is like just 438 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,279 like you know, steamrolling people, like going through screens or just making really 439 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,000 smart decisions and getting in front of people and just staying with them. So 440 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,000 again, I think he's going to be fine. And if he's fine, 441 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,759 I think that's more so the key than Michael Porter Junior, who the way 442 00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:23,160 your rosters built right now, I feels like you could essentially live without You 443 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:29,319 should be able to get enough shot creation all around without him. I guess 444 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,119 you've by getting rid of Monte Morris and Will Barton, you've kind of hurt 445 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,880 yourself there, like you're in a shot creation deficit, so yeah, I 446 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,599 guess you can. Michael Porter Junior is more important unless you want to see 447 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,839 more ball skills with Aaron Gordon. I'm a big believer in Bones Highland though, 448 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,640 and that's someone who I think you can pick up with a ton of 449 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,680 the slack. So even if Michael Porter Junior can't be counted on, I 450 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:55,480 would still called the Nuggets to contender. It's if Jamal Murray just doesn't come 451 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,240 all the way back I would I would be concerned. And do I think 452 00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,480 that the Nuggets have done enough to maximize yo could window. I would say 453 00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:03,599 for the most part, yeah, they seem to be straddling like sort of 454 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,839 these semi cash conscious lines. But like again, the Monte more Street just 455 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,640 made all tons of kinds of sense for cantabious call o Pope and what he 456 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,640 can do for you at the point of attack. I mean, you did 457 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,960 go out and again signed Bruce Brown. We'll see if his three point shot 458 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,920 holds from from last season. I just I view them absolutely as a contender. 459 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,960 I can't assume that they're going to be fully healthy, but I also 460 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,160 just can't be like, well, we have to say that Jamal Murray and 461 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,440 Michael Porter Jrms like forty games each. We can't go that route either, 462 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,079 So I view them as a contender. If all goes right for them, 463 00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:37,200 they they could be the team to pick in the West. And I'm just 464 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,759 not even kidding. Uh. The question is, if you're close, are 465 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:44,000 you willing? Yeah, you've traded, and they've also traded like first round 466 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:48,319 draft equity. They could technically trade a twenty twenty nine first round pick if 467 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:51,799 they you know, technically you would have to convey immediately and then turn into 468 00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:56,000 nothing because that protected first in twenty twenty seven, ok se could spill over 469 00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,359 into two twenty eight, two thousand and twenty nine. I leave, but 470 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,000 you could trade a first round pick. It's if you're closed, are you're 471 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,720 willing to go the extra mile to get what your roster is missing? I 472 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,559 don't know what that missing piece necessarily would be. At this point without playing 473 00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,920 out the season, they seem like they have probably the most well balanced roster 474 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,279 they've ever ascended around Nikoleokitch, I really would have liked to have seen what 475 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:22,279 they looked like when they traded for Aaron Gordon in twenty twenty twenty twenty one 476 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:26,160 first before the Jamal Murray injury. But this is certainly to me just looking 477 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,279 at them on paper, the closest that they've come to having just full comprehensive 478 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,240 coverage. Like again, maybe if you don't believe bones Hiland can handle it, 479 00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:36,640 or Michael Porter Junior is going to be in and out the lineup, 480 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,279 but just not as good because he was he was bad before he even left 481 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:41,480 for the season, but he was dealing with the back stuff before that. 482 00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:47,200 Maybe there's a shot creation deficit a little bit. Are you worried about the 483 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,039 bench rotation in general? What if Bones Highland doesn't pan out? Like who 484 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:52,759 are you leaning on for that? And then the backup pig man rotation like 485 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,440 you're you're gonna be leaning on Deandres Jordan, Zeke Naji and Jeff Green Again, 486 00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,480 is that there's some instability they if you're able to make those upgrades, 487 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,079 are you willing to give up an asset to get it done? And maybe 488 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:07,440 that asset is a Zeke najy Like what if it's a going after ken Rich 489 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,559 Williams and it's gonna cost you zeke Nagi, I don't even know if again, 490 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:12,559 you have Bruce Brown and Casey p Does that even make sense? Is 491 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:18,200 it making Look if maybe this season's going swell, the Nuggets are four or 492 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,759 five in the West, but Kevin Durant hasn't been traded and they have an 493 00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:25,000 opportunity to get him, and you're putting like all your chips on the table 494 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,039 being maybe Michael porterjus having a fantastic here. Are you going to make that 495 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:30,039 bold of a leap? There's still that question, and that's like the least 496 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,200 likely scenario. That's actually really a terrible example. But is there are you 497 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,880 willing to make like smaller end moves depending on how the season plays out, 498 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,240 that is going to cost you more assets? I personally wouldn't trade bones Hihland 499 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,839 unless it's in a blockbuster. But again, Zeke Naji being the example, 500 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,200 is it pivoting to like even moving Aaron Gordon if you are you willing to 501 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,920 shake it up a side. Look, let's phrase it this way. You 502 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,759 willing to shake it up beyond the Yokich Murray corps right now because those are 503 00:31:55,759 --> 00:32:00,799 still the most untouchable players on your roster, and I would still view Burry 504 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:02,960 as more intouchable than not especially now, because his value isn't going to be 505 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,039 especially high, and you typically aren't going to find teams of what should be 506 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:12,119 the nuggest caliber making those like wild turnover moves in the middle of the year. 507 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,680 Those that's like more off season oriented. So I'm looking more not on 508 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,880 the margins, but someone who could be The best way to phrase is what 509 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,400 the Celtics did this year. I'm all over the place. I'm sorry. 510 00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:23,759 I have been thinking about this question though. They went after Derek White and 511 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:28,920 they gave up real stuff to do it. If that missing piece or who 512 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,240 you view is that missing piece becomes available, are you willing to go after 513 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,680 it to that extent? In the Nuggets case, it's a little bit different, 514 00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:37,240 just because they can't trade a first round pick to twenty twenty nine, 515 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:39,960 But the Celtics did give up a twenty and twenty eight top one protected swap 516 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,960 in their deals, So are you willing to make a move like that? 517 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,599 That would be the only question you have to be in my mind when you 518 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,400 look at just Nicole Yokich's like one of the five best players in the league. 519 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440 But I do think the Nuggets are a contender. How's that for just 520 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,000 sort of a roundabout way of getting there. Glad has multiple questions. One 521 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:01,000 I'm gonna save for part two is a fascinating I've actually been dying to answer. 522 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,160 But the first one from Glad is what would it take for the league 523 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,599 to swing back towards a two big twin tower type sets of the instead of 524 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:12,680 the space and pace we have now. It looks like the Rudy and Cat 525 00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,160 duel will be the closest we get. But if he'll go Beart doesn't dominate 526 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,559 enough offensively to really move the needle for a team and be like, hey, 527 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:22,920 maybe we should do that. I don't know if it'll ever swing back 528 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,559 to the way it was where you have these two bigs who play inside the 529 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,759 arc as well. Say, Rudy and Cat will probably work because Cat can 530 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:32,880 still almost be a mismatch at the four spot depending on who you put on 531 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,880 him. You just look at his face up ball skills. I know some 532 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,680 people are worried about how that will play out. Maybe you could even punish 533 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,119 him with mismatches in the post because he can rise up and get over guys 534 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,119 and doesn't need a ton of space to work with him there. If they 535 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,359 have these smaller players who are giving him issues on the perimeter. I also 536 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,240 think that Rudy will be in path on offense because he's such a devastating finisher 537 00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:57,039 and since Minnesota can spread the floor around him. When you look at there's 538 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,640 still questions about their shooting. But between Edwards, Danzel Russell and William Prince 539 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,799 or Jane McDaniels, like, if you're playing three of those guys plus Rudy 540 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,679 and kat now de lower, Anthony Awards has a real rim like a real 541 00:34:07,719 --> 00:34:13,079 physical rim diver to use in addition to a pick and pop option with Karl 542 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,960 Anthony Towns and maybe he's not even setting a pick if if Rudy Gobert is 543 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,039 obviously this will impact Towns maybe more than most because he's probably not going to 544 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,880 be able to he's you know, fails to be staggered. But Gobert is 545 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,639 gonna have to do a lion share of the ball screening for that to work 546 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,800 out. Do I see teams ever following this model in full? I think 547 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,960 it's just watch it in Minnesota. What's happening in Cleveland? Whereas of now, 548 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,920 like Mobley has range to his game and he's more like bam Atabio Ish 549 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:42,320 on offense where he's not stretching the floor, but I could envision him getting 550 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,880 out there further and just his ball skills when in floor game is out of 551 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,400 this world. It's like a wing but Alan and Mobile or two guys who 552 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,239 are basically going to operate inside the arc. Even if Mobley and like bam 553 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,079 Adebayo, you can run fast breaks or you can attack going outside in like 554 00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:00,679 you're still looking to get in. Is my point that it will be interesting. 555 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:05,119 We've also seen it work in Boston with Robert Williams the third now Horford. 556 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,519 There's always there even that though Horford is like a big who can camp 557 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:10,440 out beyond the arc, and then it works a lot as well because even 558 00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:14,840 Daniel Tice who's now not with the Celtics, or Grant Williams, we're able 559 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,360 to stand beyond the arc. I don't know that we're ever going to see 560 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,239 teams invest in two bigs for the sake of defense that operate fully inside the 561 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,719 art. There's going to have to be an anomalous skill set to one of 562 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,039 them, skill assuming one of them, and that's probably gonna be if it's 563 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,679 not shooting, just the self creation, the face up ball skills when you're 564 00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:36,360 looking at a bad at a bio and Evin mobile even Tho Karl Anthony Towns 565 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,360 who has gives you both the space and those those types of ball skills. 566 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,400 And I think if this works out, it is interesting because I do believe 567 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,639 that the league was sort of already shifting towards John Hollinger called it as like 568 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,800 space ball, where it's not you're not playing small the I guess the skill 569 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,800 set is considered small, but you're still using big players who just have these 570 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,880 offensive armories and even just quickness on defense instead are like guards or wings and 571 00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:05,559 that's how you build out. And so then you're big and maybe you're better 572 00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,800 set to do things around the basket defensively to control the glass, and then 573 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,320 by extension you're tougher. You can slow things down, I guess if you 574 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,239 want to, but you're also not sacrificing space or versatility. I think though, 575 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,840 and this was a fantastic question by the way, Glad just throwing that 576 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,079 out there, I think that the Timberwolves are gonna be like the most powerful 577 00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:29,239 case study when it comes to this. But you're definitely gonna be watching what's 578 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,880 happening in Cleveland, and then we'll see if other teams try and sort of 579 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,840 implement this into their arsenal. I don't think. I don't even think that 580 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,960 we're at a point where spaceball is going to be the priority. Maybe Dallas 581 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,960 is trying to do it a little bit with having Christian Wood and Dwight Powell 582 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,960 and JaVale McGee there for some reason, and the Maxi Kleba, like that's 583 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,840 sort of the lower end of it. I feel like we're still a wild 584 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,519 success story away from it happening. Even the Golden State with Ludi and Draymond 585 00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:00,079 Green does a similar thing. It's just that him on Green isn't a typical 586 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:06,079 big Others have pointed to Milwaukee with Johanness and Brook Lopez. The caveats there 587 00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:07,519 is Lopez can still shoot and he can even put the ball on the floor, 588 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,880 not like bam out of bio or calling at the town's type acceleration there 589 00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:15,679 or even stop on a dime, but like he can get his body low 590 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,920 and he can body in the guys. I also just like, is what 591 00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,079 what is jannest He's a watch McCall it. He's like, is he a 592 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,119 big? Is he a combo? Forward is he he's his own he's his 593 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:30,559 own archetype. But I think that the search like for those maybe the yannest 594 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:34,800 type of players or teams are at least more open to it than they are 595 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,320 now because you're constantly trying to figure out a way to zig and zag, 596 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,119 so that like you're not trying to do the you know what, I thought, 597 00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:47,559 the whole painting the league is like sort of just this mundane stylistic entity 598 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,960 now where everyone's playing the same way was has always been lazy, because yeah, 599 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,280 some of the shot profiles might look the same, but the mechanisms by 600 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,760 which teams are generating those shots have always been vastly different. But you are 601 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,360 looking for that next edge, and we're small ball. I felt like it 602 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,480 would be in vogue, maybe this big small ball where we want to play 603 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,239 We want bigs on the court, multiple bigs, but we still want to 604 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,880 have the option of playing four out at least on offense, or having a 605 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,079 ton of different creators on offense playing at the same time. That's the direction 606 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:21,719 I think it would head in. But definitely, like the Gobert Towns is 607 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,880 extreme in the sense of how much equity you've now committed to that pairing where 608 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,159 even the Celtics, like Al Horfer's in the final year of his deal, 609 00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:30,320 but they're not even paying him and Robert Williams ad buying forty million next season 610 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:37,039 with RW three's extension kicking in. And that's what makes Minnesota so fascinating here. 611 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,960 But what do I think it would take. Minnesota would have to be 612 00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:44,599 just a killer in the regular season and playoffs. And that's why I think 613 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:50,039 we talked about this on the Timberwolves Jazz Trade podcast where that's where this feels 614 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,039 like it could go off the rails and the playoffs, where teams do downsize 615 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:58,239 and you're creating problems for Minnesota on defense, not because Rudy Gobert can't switch, 616 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,480 but just because if you can't keep up up and they're able to target 617 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:04,119 you, or maybe even just like if you're able to play small and defend, 618 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,239 you might lose some juice from carling Town's on offense, just depending on 619 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,360 how big that four or bigger wing is going up against him, are they 620 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,679 able to take away what he's able to do off the dribble where that's no 621 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,760 longer this mismatch or an anomaly at that spot and that you'll definitely be watching 622 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,159 in the regular season. But if and when they get to the playoffs, 623 00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:27,480 that's going to be a huge harbinger of where the league, whether the league 624 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,960 will be more open to that type of a team building concept. Just a 625 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,119 great question, Thank you, Thank you for that one. Glad the most 626 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:38,000 quoll and from Discord to ask. Let me know if I'm pronouncing your name 627 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,199 wrong. I've said it all the time now, and it's just it could 628 00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:45,000 be a disaster. The Celtics have the Evan four Yer trade exception, which 629 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,719 is kind of tricky to use, but they can always absorb a bad contract 630 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,320 like Duncan Robinson and facilitrated trade in the process. What other options do they 631 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,480 have and which exceptions can they use? With all these financial assets, aren't 632 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:58,599 they considered the favorite to repeat their playoff from and possibly get the job done 633 00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:02,079 this time? Does this imply also that Udoka is next Coach of the Year. 634 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,079 I'll answer the last question first. I think he has as good a 635 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,760 shot as anyone that you could throw in there. His case might also might 636 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,679 almost be weaker if they're good right out of the gate, because we saw 637 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,039 this body of work from them last season. It was a better story where 638 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:21,000 it was he was a rookie head coach. They turned themselves around mid season. 639 00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:22,960 He's certainly like if they're gonna have the type of year they just did, 640 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,519 but all season rather than needing that that made year turnaround, there's absolutely 641 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:30,480 a possibility he will be towards the top of the Coach of the Year. 642 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,880 I don't know if I would peg him as as the favorite though, I 643 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,880 actually haven't given, I guess enough thought of who I would peg as the 644 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,039 favorite in that scenario. So, I mean, do I think he should 645 00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:43,880 have top three Coach of the year agia? Why not? Like Boston's so 646 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,440 good and that's a prerequisite of this, And then it's just anecdotally. Are 647 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,400 they the Kings of the East at a time when it was supposed to be 648 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,480 Milwaukee or Miami type deal. I could see Nick Nurse being one of the 649 00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:57,679 Coach of the year favorites next season as well Willie Green and New Orleans depending 650 00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,960 on how good they are. Was I on coming back? As far as 651 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,760 the Celtics exceptions, they already I don't know if it's been confirmed, but 652 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,519 they have Neil Gallinari on the MINIMLI so that exception is gone. The two 653 00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:10,599 things to keep an eye on are the every four year trade exception expires sevent 654 00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:15,320 eighteen July eighteenth of this summer. It's worth seventeen point one million dollars roughly. 655 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,079 They also have the one Herning Gomez trade trade player exception that expires in 656 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,880 January to nineteenth, twenty and twenty three, right around the trade deadline, 657 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,760 so they can hold on to that one. They don't have to use all 658 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,559 of the Evan Fourier trade exception. By the way, it doesn't mean they 659 00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,079 have to take back an expensive player. That being said, if one's available, 660 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,320 your tax bill is already projected to be high this year when you took 661 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:43,480 on Malcolm Brogden and like you didn't shed payroll in the process. I think 662 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,440 they are projected to have over a forty million dollars tax bill at this moment, 663 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,519 because they're merely twenty million dollars into the tax. If you really don't 664 00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,559 care about that, can you look at and look The thing with this is 665 00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:54,920 that these names need to become available. The ones that I'm about to list 666 00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:00,280 off right now. Duncan Robinson was interesting from from demos cole I just are 667 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,400 you gonna help out Miami because it's that part of them getting Kevin Durant or 668 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,639 another player. If they're just giving him to you, Are they gonna want 669 00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,079 to help out Boston? Are you less inclined to do that now that you 670 00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:13,119 have Malcolm Brogden. I think you should just focus on like the backup wing 671 00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:16,800 combo forward spots, or maybe if you even want another like big type. 672 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,559 I certainly wouldn't use, like go super expensive in that department though, that's 673 00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:23,440 that's for sure. I thought about Marcus Moore's senior. If the Clippers think 674 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,960 they have a surplus of wings and they're looking to cut their their tax bill, 675 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,880 he does fit into the even four yer trade exception. I believe Kelly 676 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,960 Brady junior. What's going on in Charlotte. I thought before they signed Malcolm 677 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,280 Brogden, DeVante Graham would be interesting. That doesn't make too much sense anymore. 678 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:42,360 Terrence Ross could still make some sense. He fits into there. One 679 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,719 that's interesting is Al Horford's coming off the books. R W three is not 680 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,559 expensive. The fact that he like his extension was four forty eight and then 681 00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:53,920 Mitchell Robinson gets sixty and unless there's like non guarantees or major incentives attached to 682 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,840 that which I've not seen yet. My god, Rashaun Holmes fits there, 683 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:00,920 and so was there Like I don't know the Kings give him up. I 684 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,000 doubt the Kings give them up for nothing, but is they're sort of just 685 00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,440 like a smaller move there. Where do you send out Grant Williams because maybe 686 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,320 you don't want to pay his next deal if you're willing to pay for Shaun 687 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,199 Holmes just because he's capped where he's just making like under fourteen million dollars basically 688 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,599 every season on this contract, and then you're safeguarded against Horford leaving after this 689 00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:22,360 year. Can you play Holmes and RW three together? Holmes has dabbled in 690 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,559 three point shooting previously, not recently, so no, but that's a route. 691 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,599 The other thing that they could look at is and it just depends on 692 00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,960 if it KD trade sort of happens. Can they facilitate like players being moved 693 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,039 around from other teams that are getting k D. Let's use the Sun as 694 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,480 an example. Do the Brooklyn Nets want Jay Crowder or can the Celtics throw 695 00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:44,760 a lower end asset into the mix that either the Nets or another team that's 696 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,239 involved want and they take in Jay Crowder. They could do the same thing 697 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,599 with Larry NaNs Junior. If the Pelicans wind up landing KD, they should 698 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,199 probably even look at Larry NaNs Junior regardless. I don't know why Leeds want 699 00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:57,280 to get rid of him, but he is going to be a free agent. 700 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,559 That's something to consider. Jacchaperto would be over kill. Not that the 701 00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:04,920 Spurs would get KD just having him Horford in RW three, but holy hell, 702 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,440 imagine maybe Nerlin's Noel. I also thought about, like, what if 703 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,920 the Nets opt for the tear down route at some point they the Celtics wouldn't 704 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,760 be a bad landing spot for Royce O'Neill. It changes when he's like your 705 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:22,400 your fourth most important wing rather than your first most important wing. Some even 706 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,519 lower end options that I'll throw in here. Ken Birch, Tory, Craig 707 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,239 Phoenix would also be looking to move him in advance of the KD stuff, 708 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,920 or maybe just in general. And then Justice Winslow, I don't know what 709 00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:35,639 his place is in Portland. That feels more like a mid season decision they 710 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,360 would make, and he does pit into the wan Herna Gomez expiring thing. 711 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,599 Those are just some player types names that I would keep an eye on or 712 00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:46,400 that I like for Boston. I hope everyone's ready to get drunk on Utah 713 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:52,480 Jazz topics right here. But at Alexander asked what's the best way for the 714 00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:54,840 Jazz three tool around Nona Mitchell? Considering what's on the market currently, I 715 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,360 don't really see a scenario where the Jazz trade Mitchell, so it would be 716 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,360 interesting to hear what they could make for players. Happy to hear the eight 717 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:07,599 and talk coming to an end, and then also Karragan asked the Utah Jazz, 718 00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,000 that is the question. That's a great question. So for the Jazz 719 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,880 specifically, I still don't buy that they're not gonna move Donovan Mitchell. I 720 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,039 get the reasoning they want to star there for when they host the All Star 721 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:21,960 Game. I just if anyone's gonna say screw it, it would be Danny 722 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,199 Ainge there. And they're just such a hodgepodge right now. I don't know 723 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,280 what their path to becoming immediately competitive is. That being said, I looked 724 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,760 at it as they have all these first round picks and even you know, 725 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:37,920 depending on how you feel about Leandro Valermo and Walker Kessler. They have just 726 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,119 like these interesting players. Then some of these shorter term contracts to Matt's like 727 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,880 Patrick Beverley, Molie Beasley, Mike Conley, and Boy mcdonovitch are still there. 728 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,119 Can they get involved in the Katie trade as taking on the higher end 729 00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:52,079 players? That again, what if Brooklyn doesn't want to go to the player 730 00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,599 out and so you're giving up draft compensation, not all of what you got 731 00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:59,679 for Rudy Gobert, but a huge portion of it or a portion of it 732 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,199 to main competitive with Donovan Mitchell. And so if the names to monitor there 733 00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:07,519 would be what if the Pelicans decide to get what if they get Kevin Durant 734 00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:08,599 and they have to give up Brandon Ingram. What if the Nets dont want 735 00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,480 Brandon Ingram. Yeah, he's younger and he's a he's under contract for the 736 00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,800 next but he got four years left on that bad boy. Maybe he only 737 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,239 has three guaranteed years. He's got three guaranteed years left under a team control. 738 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,079 But maybe they don't want Maybe they don't want him. Can you that 739 00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:27,880 would be a great pairing with Donovan Mitchell and he improved brand Ingram is both 740 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,079 a playmaker, and I thought he played really well, probably the best defensive 741 00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:34,079 season of his career in New Orleans. Again, there might have been a 742 00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,519 year in Los Angeles where he was even better than that. What about Jaren 743 00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,119 Jackson Junior injured at the moment. If the Grizzlies want KD though, that 744 00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:43,519 would be the name that you're thrown at the table. Again, maybe the 745 00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:45,840 Nets don't want him. If you're the Jazz, well, can you give 746 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,920 up inside from salary matching tools in draft equity to get someone like him? 747 00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:54,599 What if the Nuggets are giving up Michael Porter junior? Is there is there 748 00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:58,119 a package there where you're willing to take on the risk that might be someone 749 00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:00,840 who if you're willing to match the salary, you take on the risk and 750 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,719 it cast you minimal draft equity. And I don't in a nutshet don't think 751 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,480 the Nuggets would be dumping MPG right now, but that would be didn't even 752 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,320 consider what if the look the Raptors framework of like o G and Trent Junior 753 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,280 like using them as the base. What if they use Pascal Siakam as the 754 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,960 base as someone who is extension knowledgeable at the moment and just like closer to 755 00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,039 thirty than twenty five. What if the next don't want him? Do you? 756 00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,719 If you're the Jazz and you're serious about containing around Donovan Mitchell, what 757 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,280 does it take to bring him in? He'd be a great fit. I 758 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,840 don't foresee him going that route because I think you need the commitment from Donovan 759 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,960 Mitchell first, knowing that he's gonna be here. It's not just look, 760 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,360 you look at his contract and it's like, just commit to not trading him 761 00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:42,480 until the year before free agency. And then you're operating on a two year 762 00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:46,159 timeline that's like not freaking long, and you can't even guarantee you won't ask 763 00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:50,079 for rout next summer when there are two years left him this deal before his 764 00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,000 player options, so two years before you essentially hit free agency. If everything 765 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,920 goes right, I without like knowing, I just can't picture them going after 766 00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,320 that type of a player. And so what I do good see them doing 767 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,639 is, well, can we get stop gaps or maybe players where their value 768 00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,920 is plummeted a little bit but they could be super helpful, or like, 769 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,199 are we just gonna go after soon to be free agents who help us? 770 00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:16,360 Now we monitor it moving forward, and so some names here like Miles Turner, 771 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,320 he could play him with Jared Vanderbilt up from depending on what the cost 772 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,079 is to get him. He's gonna be free agent. What's the cost of 773 00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,400 John Collins right now in Atlanta? He would really work. He could play 774 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,760 him with Vanderbilt as well. What would Jonathan Isaac cost you? And we 775 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,559 actually have a question on that that I might be saving from part two still. 776 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,079 And then there's also like, again, these are mid end guys, 777 00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,119 but Jaco Peardle, Laron Nash, You're josh Are Kyle Kuzma, they're also 778 00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:43,719 probably players where you're dealing with mid season. Maybe these teams maybe Portland season 779 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,400 doesn't go according to plan, or New Orleans season doesn't go according to play, 780 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,320 or they're not using Laryon Nastrer as much as they expected. Yako Peardle's 781 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,719 probably already available. Could you go that route? That feels like the more 782 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,480 likely scenario where it's kind of looking at players with distress value about to enter 783 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,079 free agency, or they're really good, they'll help you now, but they 784 00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:07,079 won't cost as much as it would go after another building block, like like 785 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:10,599 just a flat out building block to pair with Donovan Mitchell. That feels like 786 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,440 the most likely possibility for them, and it's not something that I would say 787 00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:20,440 is ready made to happen right now again John Collins, A Miles Turner, 788 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,760 who I do like, they're like, yeah, maybe them, Jaka Purdle, 789 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,039 But there are some things that would have to spill, you know, 790 00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:28,800 Kyle Kuzmar, like those are And look, Jordan Carston loves Utah. Here 791 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,840 ku Kyle Kuzma to stay there if you worry about him leaving in free agency. 792 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,679 And that is also going to be depending on what what do the Jazz 793 00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,239 look like this season, depending on who's still there. Those are just those 794 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,760 are names and the like the situation types, and they can get whoever they 795 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,480 want aside from like another guard. You don't really need another guard unless they're 796 00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:50,199 just incredible on defense, because Donovan Mitchell is there and you have so many, 797 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,920 but like, yeah, you just need talent, whether it's on the 798 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,880 front line, on the wings, another big just just go after that. 799 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,239 But I'm still leaving open the possibility that this thing would come a full fledged 800 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:07,440 tear down Carrie and also asked Vanderbilt at the five, does anyone else like 801 00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:09,880 this idea? I do, and you almost look, he's gonna be a 802 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,840 five on offense regardless, so you ideally pair him with a floors basing big. 803 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,679 That would be good if Miles Turner you acquire him, or can you 804 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,119 get again, what does Jonathan? What does Jonathan? Is? What does 805 00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:24,480 John Collins cost you? At this point where you don't really he's under contract 806 00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:28,320 for a long time and he's but he's also young. It's like that would 807 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,199 almost be an ideal where he still doesn't tell you to one timeline. You 808 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:34,480 could turn around and move him Macdonovan Mitchell last route next season. But like 809 00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:38,199 pairing those players with Vanderbilt and then using especially with Collins, Vanderbilt is your 810 00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:43,280 defensive anchor. I don't I don't hate it. And look, Vanderbilt didn't 811 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,320 play a ton of actual center for the Wolves last year. One hundred thirty 812 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,639 three positions. The timberlost had a one or two point nine defensive rating and 813 00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:52,199 they were good on the glass eighty two point one defensive rebounding rate. Played 814 00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:58,079 a lot of those minutes with like disruptive athleticism. I would say Anthony Edwards 815 00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:01,280 and Jaden McDaniels, even Moleigue bees in there the jazz, you would want 816 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,320 to surround him with similar talent if you're not going to have a truer big 817 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,639 at the five, I think that takes care of. Miles Turner would be 818 00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:13,039 just perfect there, or even even Larry nance Junior a little bit. I 819 00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:15,159 would absolutely try it. And look, you're so small on the perimeter right 820 00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:19,800 now. I don't know, like if someone mentioned this in discord, like 821 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,239 you would have hired Mike D'Antoni if you wanted to get weird at the same 822 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,599 time, like you're almost you're forced to get weird if you don't make any 823 00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:29,400 other moves right now, So you could still just surround him with spacing there 824 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,719 just wouldn't be like that disruptive size or athleticism at the moment. So if 825 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,880 you could get Miles turner's just the perfect acquisition to do that, or John 826 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:43,239 Collins. But I think Miles Turner is just well be We'll be cheaper in 827 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,760 terms of the assets they would give up. So I'm absolutely down for Vanderbilt. 828 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:51,360 Look, I'm a sucker for Walkey lineups and Jared Vanderbilt is caffeine and 829 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,400 bodily form. I tweeted that earlier today, and I would absolutely try him 830 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,599 at the five. Maybe they still wind up moving him, though. If 831 00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:00,599 you have any targets that you'd like to the Jazz go after, feel free 832 00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:04,760 to get at me. Let's make these the last couple ones. I told 833 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,400 you we had a ship ton of questions. Ian forty two from Discord asked, 834 00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:13,000 so I've asked this question to several pundits that have never gotten a response. 835 00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,920 Maybe you can answer it for me. In seven seasons, Gary Payton 836 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,239 has not played Gary Payton seconds not played more than two thousand total minutes last 837 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,719 year twelve hundred. Previous high minutes four hundred. Why is that team's not 838 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,760 knowing how to use him? League changes the Warrior system based on his historical 839 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,239 data, Peyton will be a disaster for the Blazers. Very curious on your 840 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,039 thoughts. Thanks in advance. Ian's trying to break my heart because I love 841 00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:37,400 GP two. I think look, I thought about this with GP two and 842 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:43,519 Bruce Brown. It doesn't feel like the league was as willing to accept these 843 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:50,719 oddball guard types where they're not primary facilitators. They're not good shooters. Yeah 844 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,000 they can defend, but they're not particularly big. So there's sort of this 845 00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:59,199 stigma against them. But as we saw with Bruce Brown, who's a better 846 00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:01,960 a better passer both with the ball in his hands and even off of the 847 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,519 roles, and Gary Payton a second look at Gary Payton the second specifically, 848 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,079 it's the Warriors were just open to using him in different ways. It helps 849 00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:12,400 that he hit thirty seven point seven percent of his spot up threes. That 850 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,159 absolutely matters, but they haven't been a team that's I don't discriminated against size 851 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,559 or ever pigeonholed size into a box. They were fine with moving him around 852 00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,480 defensively. So that's like one thing getting over this, Oh he's six three, 853 00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:25,440 he can only defend in the back court, no, like he was 854 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,880 on actual wings. The other thing is can you get creative with how you 855 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,960 use them on offense? Yes, his three point shot was helpful, bordering 856 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,559 on critical to how he was used. But they used him as the Roman, 857 00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:39,480 like as the screener in the Roman in the playoffs, minimal usage he 858 00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:43,880 was injured to start one point four three points per possession as the Roman in 859 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,400 the playoffs, minimal volume. Look just getting him moving like away from the 860 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,199 ball as a cutter, he evers one point six points per possession as a 861 00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:53,440 cutter during the regular season. That was the best mark in the MBA among 862 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,159 one hundred and nineteen players who finished at least fifty of those possession types. 863 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,920 Garreting the second. By the way, it was in the higher end of 864 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,639 the volume there with one hundred and seven. Yeah, the Warriors helped that 865 00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:06,760 because they know how to get players moving off the ball, and they also 866 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,320 had a live line. If he played, there was enough spacing to make 867 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,519 it easier on him where it's like, oh, not Looney and Draymond like 868 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:17,320 both clogging the floor at the same time. But the fact that he's also 869 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,000 willing to be used like that and never fancied himself a primary ball handler, 870 00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:24,440 it makes it easier to use him in that vein and the call for Russell 871 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,000 Westbrook to set more of those ball screens and we used as a roller or 872 00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:30,960 just a cutter. And so I do think perception is changing. I'm not 873 00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:35,880 as low on what could happen with the Blazers. If his three point percentage 874 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,920 falls, that could be a detriment. They're gonna be lineups, especially some 875 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,280 of the smaller ones they could run out. Even if Nurkids is on the 876 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,000 floor where he has even more room to operate, and they don't need him. 877 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,320 They have Simons, they have Dame, they even have Jeremy Grant like 878 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,039 to use as the primary on ball guys. If you are willing to get 879 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,960 past this idea that Gary Payton the second either has to take a ton of 880 00:54:57,039 --> 00:55:00,639 threes and make them at the super hide clip and you can get him moving 881 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,639 away from the ball. Easier said than done. But they have the guys 882 00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,719 who can collapse defenses where he can just duck in from the corners, or 883 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,960 again use him as the screener. It certainly helps if you have bigs on 884 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,159 the court that can shoot threes, which the Blazers that's not I mean, 885 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,480 nurk, it's just dabbled. That's not going to be what he does. 886 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,679 But he could find Gary Payton a second on the short roll, and I 887 00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:24,000 look, I do think that you could try and run pick and roll with 888 00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:28,119 Gary Payton the second and a NRK And then just if you have Dame, 889 00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:31,039 Anthony Simons and you know whoever else Jeremy Grant or Josh Hard on the court, 890 00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:34,920 there's enough shooting to where yes, he can do those basic types of 891 00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:37,599 reads and in my opinion, but you just don't use them that way. 892 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:39,320 And I think teams are finally starting to warm up to that idea that you 893 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,519 don't need to have these guard types in a box. It's okay to be 894 00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:47,119 Gary Payton the Second and Bruce Brown. Like what they do on offense, 895 00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:51,679 it's you need them to hit ultra wide, open threes and it's probably gonna 896 00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:54,440 be on medium to super low volume, but that's okay if you can figure 897 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,079 out how to use them in other ways. What I bet on Gary Payton 898 00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:02,079 the Second being as used old Portland in Portland as he was with Golden State, 899 00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:05,760 I don't. I don't know. I can tell you, Ian, 900 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,320 I'm way higher on what he will do with the Blazers than you are, 901 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:14,280 unless it's health related, of course, mostly because I think that this is 902 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,320 a lead wide trend where you're sort of understanding that you can use players in 903 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,480 those more creative or unorthodox ways. I'm going to make this the last question 904 00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:28,400 because I think that and Palito, you ask three. I'll get to your 905 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,559 other two in part two, but I feel like I'm moving my voice here. 906 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,079 What do you think the Charlotte Hearts off season looks like, if everything 907 00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,679 goes perfectly from this portfoward, i e. Post Miles Bridges. Let me 908 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,480 use this opportunity to say that I think, look the domestic violence stump with 909 00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:49,639 Myles domestic violence accusations claims. I mean, charges against Miles Bridges at this 910 00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:52,760 point are real, They're genuine, and they need to be taken seriously. 911 00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:59,159 Katie Hendel, who is the author of the Basketball Feelings newsletter and is just 912 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,280 published all over the place, went on the Lockdown Hoardet's podcast. I would 913 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,559 encourage everyone to head over to their YouTube and check out the conversations he had 914 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:09,559 about the way domestic violence Miles Bridges, but also the overarching issue of domestic 915 00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:15,599 violence is covered in sports media and commentary overall. I'm not thinking about Miles 916 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:21,599 bridges next contract. I don't ideally like they're the case against him, like 917 00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:24,440 needs to be resolved in a way where he is disciplined accordingly and effectively, 918 00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:28,559 and like we can't forget about this, Like that's to me, the ideal 919 00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:30,320 low season for the NBA and the Hoardets is let's not get caught up in 920 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:35,079 what Miles Bridges is making or how has impacted his his earning potential. It's 921 00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:39,920 about if anyone saw the video of his kid talking about what it was like 922 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:45,119 seeing Myles Bridges. I believe choke. I don't even want to use her 923 00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:46,039 name because I don't even know if that's like proper, which is part of 924 00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:50,159 the problem. We need to educate ourselves on how to how to recover this. 925 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,199 But choking his mother, like having to see that is just that video 926 00:57:55,119 --> 00:58:00,000 made me want made me want to ball, and Dan damn near did the 927 00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:04,679 Hornet's actual best case offseason. I don't know what it looks like with the 928 00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:07,480 Miles Bridges. I think they did a good job concerning like resigning Cody Martin 929 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,639 from here on out, it's I think they still probably need to acquire like 930 00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:15,760 a veteran big who's not Mason Plumley, So it'd be nice if you could 931 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,519 get into the Miles Turner sweepstakes. I don't even like. I don't know 932 00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:22,719 how this is going to impact Myles bridges next contract. I frankly don't care. 933 00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:30,000 You do. Look at their team and however he's disciplined, if he's 934 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,679 gonna miss next season or a huge suspended for a year's chunk of next season, 935 00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:37,400 if not more than that we can deal with that issue when it's actually 936 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,599 an issue. Is right now Miles Bridges is not unsigned and is not signed, 937 00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:44,599 and they're just way more important things going on with the Hornets to get 938 00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:46,719 into their actual team needs. And I don't mean to make this like a 939 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,760 gross segue. I probably would like to see them get involved on the Miles 940 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,159 Turner sweepstakes, if not even a Yaka peurdle. You do have Mark Williams. 941 00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:58,920 There a lottery pick in addition to Kai Jones. I'm not telling them 942 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,639 going to mortgage the farm for all these guys, but both Pertal and Turner 943 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:06,199 are going to be free agents next summer. So is there a world in 944 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:12,119 which they just don't cost you a ton? So that would be like that 945 00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:14,960 would be what I think they need the most. And they're not like drowning 946 00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:19,440 in wings at the moment. They have Kelly Bridge Jr. Who feels like 947 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,840 more of a like a Kelly brid Junior is a wing but like PJ. 948 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:29,920 Washington is not. Cody Martin is like the quote like the second tim and 949 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,400 Kelly brid Jr. Is your primary Gordon Hayward as well. It would be 950 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,639 interesting to strengthen that spot overall, which would have to be done through trade. 951 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,960 But I did I like the Cody Martin bringing him back. I think 952 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,440 they needed to because of his defensive valuability. That ideally though, for them, 953 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,440 they would figure out a way to acquire a veteran, big profably one 954 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,760 who's either going to be one of the best room protectors you've ever seen or 955 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,320 who stretches the floor, or in the case of Miles Turner, could potentially 956 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,760 be both and maybe just sort of changing it up on the wings because you 957 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,840 don't have like, yeah, you can use uber at Cody Martin against the 958 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,679 other team's best wing, but I don't think you want to, Like you 959 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,840 probably want kellyerbrid Junior guarding a lot of like non ball handling wings because he 960 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,559 can take a ton of chances. I just don't consider him necessarily a wing, 961 01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:19,400 a primary wing defender on defense. Gordon Hayward certainly not that anymore. 962 01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:23,280 Cody Martin's probably your best bet actually there that would be something for them to 963 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,800 address. In my opinion, this mailbag was great an hour on the button 964 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,519 without me baking in the advertisements just yet, So thank you everyone who made 965 01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:35,400 it this far with me. If this is your first time listening to this 966 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,920 podcast, Please throw us that permit subscription wherever you get your podcasts and on 967 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,760 YouTube, refer us as well. Retweet our promotions on Twitter if you follow 968 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,639 us at Hardwood Knox or at Damp Valley. We appreciate every single one of 969 01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:52,400 you guys join our Discord. The link is in the YouTube description and the 970 01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,960 podcast description. 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