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In people's training, how much time
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their pace When they're working on the
footing, You'll see a lot of time,

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a lot of attention trying to get
the stroke right. But spend a

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little bit more time engaging and giving
your brain task to improve paste control.

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Go onto the putting green with four
balls and see if you can complete this

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task from ten fifteen twenty feet with
the first balls, if you can roll

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it just past the whole. With
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it to the right of the whole, third ball, leave it to the

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left of the hole, and the
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You're engaging the brain to actually increase
feel this elusive thing called field.

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You're training it in a way by
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the time, but moving either side
of correct. It's a wonderful, wonderful

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exercise. This is a parasute from
Rockport, Texas a play Rapport country club,

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and this is episode nine h six
of Smarter Golf's a game to be

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enjoyed not in toured who have both
Gary Nichol and Carl Morris. This is

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Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips, and insights from great golf minds to

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help you lower your score and raise
your golf IQ. Here's your host,

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Fred Green. Welcome back to the
Golf Smarter Podcast. Gary. Great to

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see you again, Fed Thanks for
having us back on. You know,

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yes it has. And what's interesting
is you said us, because I've never

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had the two of you on together. You guys have been partners in crime

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in the golf world for a long
time, but I've had you on separately.

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So I'm very excited to get you
both on together. And so I

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also want to say, welcome back
to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Carl.

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It's good to be It's good to
be back. Fred. I'm excited about

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this year. You're looking better than
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Trying to keep my face off of
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podcaster, you know, the phase
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though, because I'm learning a lot
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this is the eighteenth year of my
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these things that will get repeated over
and over and I hear them again and

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again. But as I get deeper
and deeper into this, the nuances of

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what is being said just kind of
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and it's like, oh, that's
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I'm excited because I'm on this quest
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per round that I'm having. I'd
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We'd all love to be in the
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can be thirty to thirty two per
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can. I feel very good about
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up that still rears its ugly head
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So yeah, it's what I want
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podcasts? Are you're doing the podcast
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a guest. I think when Carl
stop pree guests, you asked me,

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Yeah, Gary, Gary's Gary's my
goal to you, mom when everybody else

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turns me down. So it happened. He's been on a good a good

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few times. But I'm I'm well
behind you. Fred. I think I

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think I've done about three hundred episodes
something like that book. Well, well,

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well behind the number that you've you've
managed to get to. But you

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know, it's it's a it's a
federal commitment every single week, isn't it.

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It's it's you gotta you gotta hang
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you really do. It's it is
a commitment. But um, because I

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approach this as a student and wanting
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it's a lot easier for me than
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if I was a PGA professional,
then I can have these colleagues that I

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can call in and probably get bigger
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I'm getting, so I think I've
created some credibility here. I'm very curious,

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though, how did you guys get
together to be working partners on putting

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and in golf? Who wants to
take that one? Yeah, I'll take

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that one and Gary can follow see
if the stories are somewhat similar. No,

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I mean we knew we knew each
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on the European Tour and PGA tours
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gary alonger than me, and he'd
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and I used to sort of just
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few times a year, so we've
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tour players. But it was actually
a guy called Mike Malone, who's one

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of the top men in track Man
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who actually got us together. We
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to do a seminar together up at
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of the most beautiful places on anybody
anybody listening. If you if you somewhere

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to put on your boocket list,
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Anyway, we got together and we
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we started talking about putting, and
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I think we just have a having
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maybe a couple of pints in the
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must be there must be a book
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thought, well, we'll put a
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own idea as much as anything else. And we came up with these six

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principles. Wrote wrote the book fairly
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It gave us something to do one
winter published it. We published it five

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years ago now at the Scottish Open. Paul Laurie was kind enough, the

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British Open Champion was kind enough to
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launched it at the Scottish Open.
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to two more in the Lost Art
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a very very interesting journey. That's
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Garrett, Yeah, it's been good
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the Last Art of Putting is a
book that's been out for a number of

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years now, but it's now got
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you want to explain what's going on? Yeah, we thought a number of

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people who've given us really nice feedback
from from reading the book, but a

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number of people said to us it
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we could see some some visuals,
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and some idea is how to practice
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Art and we and we kind of
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nice to just put the visual element
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got the new program where it's it's
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but I think for a lot of
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come to life the ideas and concepts
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little bit dry when they just read
a book. We've we've hopefully brought them,

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brought them alive, and we filmed
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location was stunning, and we really
feel that it's a contribution for people to

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explore an area of putting that I
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so much technology, fred there's so
much science, which we were not ludd

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eyes. We definitely believe that has
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for everybody who can think back to
the times that they've gone out on the

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golf course and they've holed pots and
they've putted well, I've never heard anybody

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say that I putted really well because
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I've never I've never putted really well
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mechanics and things like that that usually
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it's usually related to an absence of
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a little bit more artistry and as
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agree, we actually want to put
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putting because a number of times I'll
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Gary'll say, what's it like out
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head and say, it's still the
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we call it the torture chamber where
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the putting green Huesday on Wednesday with
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and things like that, and it
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people improve as a result of it, but for us, it just feels

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like it in some ways that that
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other side of the science, which
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Could not agree more. I was
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last and witnessed exactly the same thing
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tripping over strings and gadgets and eyeline
mirrors and all sorts of things, and

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it does for me, it dumbs
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know, and and the fun element. It becomes a chore. You know,

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play golf should not be a chore
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you're living, or playing with your
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morning or a Wednesday afternoon, it's
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said this to me many many years
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because I'm still talking about it decades
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not endured. Hmm. But I
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for people who invest so much time
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don't see enoughful lot of teeth.
We don't see an awful lot of people

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smiling, which is such a tragedy
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you know, we want to bring
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into putting and not putting, but
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if that involves a bit more artistry
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a bad way to go forward with
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Gary that I will now forever be
quoting your father, but I'll give you

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credit for it about golf as a
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Wow. Yeah, wise words weren't
the amazing words. Power forwards, power

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forwards. We're going to take a
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this. What I so enjoy about
watching the video, and I've watched it

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a couple of times now, on
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how you guys complement one another on
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it. And I'm gonna go right
Carl. You you go to a lot

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of places. But I have to
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times and then going out to the
golf course this week, what I kept

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hearing in my head was about the
alpha wave and the beta wave, and

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the busy beta wave and the very
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in We shouldn't have gone out.
It was over ninety five degrees outside,

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it was very hot. I walked
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being in the cart and it kills
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in the cart on the back nine
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the second time in my playing career
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even par on the back nine.
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fact that I was so hot and
it was draining me so much, and

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I kept I was hydrating NonStop,
but I wasn't thinking about it. I

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was totally distracted by the heat,
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shot and then moving on and not
getting concerned over everything. My mind was

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moving very slowly. And then again
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the alpha waves were really in play, and yeah, I mean I

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shot a seventy six, which for
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and the hand in the index settings, is to try to have more rounds

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in the seventies than in the nineties. And so right now I'm I'm there.

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Haven't had a round in the nineties
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happy about that. But it's because
of what I learned from guys like you.

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and also great to hear that your
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I think it's I think it's fantastic
that you manage to have all these different

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people on the podcast, which you
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you then manage to distill it down
to things that are relevant for you and

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in your own individual golf and you
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everybody listening that you know, you
can hear great information and great ideas,

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but ultimately you've got to own these
things for yourself, and you've got to

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find out what it is that makes
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sacred. You know. But what
you're saying there about your experience with putting,

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you think about it with this with
this game, most people, as

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a generalized statement, would say that
they actually put it better when they were

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kids, when they were younger than
they actually do now. Even even top

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professionals would would often relate that story
about how easy putting was when they were

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when they were younger players. And
you think, well, what why is

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that? Well, you know,
as a kid, you walk onto a

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green and you're just absorbed with what
the golf ball has got to do.

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You know, you're really interested in
what this ball needs to do to go

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into the hole. And as simple
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is anywhere evolution as a golfer.
What happens we go from being interested in

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what the golf ball has to do
to becoming more obsessed in what we have

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to do. And by that I
mean is what we have to do mechanically?

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How do we have to move our
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a certain direction at a certain pace. And you know, we pose the

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question in the Lost Art of Golf
does the shot create the swing or does

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the swing create the shot? And
it's the same we believe does the put

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create the stroke or does the stroke
create the pup. Now, you know

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you'll get a hundred pros who would
argue vociferously one way or the other,

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and there's no definitive answer to this. But we really firmly believe if you've

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got a really good idea what you
believe the golf ball needs to do to

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go into the hole, trust your
body to organize the movement to make that

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happen without you getting too involved in
it. We need to leave thread out

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of it, or Garry out of
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Where we get so involved in trying
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we get clear on that, we
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things can happen. We have a
fundamental principle thread that your body will organize

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movement around a clear intention. But
most people when they go onto a rain

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have a very cloudy intention, and
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how they are going to move rather
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Excellent, it's interesting. I'm gonna
this kind of works to go back

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and forth in that pink for a
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and they're all really good players,
sixty and seventeen years old, lower handicap

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golfers. And we talked about the
basically the principles within the lasstart of putting

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the book and within the digital program. And one of the concepts we talked

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about in a bit of depth is
visualization. And there were seventy kids,

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nine kids, and not one of
them was seeing the ball going into the

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hole before they hit it, which
was quite astonishing. Yeah, they could

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not visualize. One did a part. I think one did. But the

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others we're saying, well, no, I just I picked my line and

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then I'll get over the ball and
I do this my stroke and I do

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this putter and my shoulders. I
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what's just I got to get it
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the process. But how about you
get it finishing. Think about the finish

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line rather than the start line.
I mean, well, the ball going

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into the hole, Well not really, I'm kind of I see where it

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starts. I see where I wanted
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point. Whatever said, yeah,
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The movie ends with the ball going
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what we see. So I said, okay, if I give you all

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a piece of paper and a pen, a marker, pen, a sharp

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or whatever, and asked you to
draw a circle, square, and a

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triangle, what do you see?
Circle? Square, a triangle. So

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you can't draw a circle when you're
thinking about a triangle. You can't draw

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a square when you're thinking about a
fish. You know. Yeah, for

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example, you've got to think about
what you want that intention to be and

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surely the intention when you're putting is
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hole. So we went through all
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it possible this ball could go in
the ball? Well, I didn't know

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the last one. Okay, I
wasn't asking about the last put Let's get

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thinking about paying attention to this pat
Is it possible this ball could go in

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the hole? Yes, absolutely,
of course it's possible. Okay, So

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what does the ball have to do? Well, it needs to travel on

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a certain line at the appropriate pace, or if you flip that on its

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head, because that's what most people
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they decide how hard to hit it. But if pace the termines line,

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surely we should be paying a bit
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choose it. Once you've decided how
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you choose a line appropriate to ace
and pace. Well, line is nothing

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without pace. And I saw a
few kind of stunned faces. But then

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we went out of the putting green
and we focused entirely on pace and visualization,

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and oh I could hear. I
didn't intervene with any technical information or

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intervention. And I just heard balls
going in, falling into the hole and

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laughter, and you know, could
see smiling faces and kids having fun.

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How about that for a concept?
And it was great outrage. They loved

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it. Yeah, I know,
fun shouldn't go back. A lot of

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the a lot of players that we
were talking with over the years, their

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skills have diminished in their quest to
become better, perfect, technically, more

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efficient, whatever, But they've actually
they've lost the basic skill of getting the

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ball into the hole because their attention
is not on that. Their attention under

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knees, other hips of their elbows, or the shoulders of their left nostrils

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of the right ear lobe, whatever
it is. But there are attention been

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drawn away from the task, which
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And as Karl said, once you
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paying attention to what the ball has
to do, your brain will start to

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open up mural pathway. You're sending
very clear signals to the parts of your

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body that are attached to and move
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guess what, you start to hold
some pups. You know, you could

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for everybody listening, for everybody in
Fred you could have just a really simple

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game that you could go out and
try it the next time you go into

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the putting green. And this sounds
so ridiculously simple, but we found it

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can be revolutionary for a lot of
players. It's just to simply go out

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and hits a bunch of pups from
say five six feet up to twenty feet

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a lot of individual puts all around
the green, and just ask yourself one

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question before you before you hit the
put you just say to you off which

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side of the hole is this ball
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actually answer that question. It's either
going in from the left side of the

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whole, of the right side of
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you know, six foot and beyond. And then once you've answered that question,

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it's going to go in from the
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from the left. Allow your allow
your brain to create an image backwards from

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the entry point from the whole back
to you. You know, be a

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little bit creative. Maybe you want
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know, you see that the line
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into the whole comes back to you, and the colors green or sorry,

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red, or yellow or blue or
whatever. It is, not yourself out

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with the color that you do.
But just really engage that that creative part

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of your brain, with that simplicity, and then just see what happens.

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Just hit a bunch of puts,
single ball from lots of different locations,

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and see what you like in terms
of your prediction. Did it go in

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from the right, did it come
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again, one of the things that
people don't realize that if you look at

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it, what is the fundamental requirement
to become a good putter is you basically

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have to predict what a golf ball
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You only get one go as far
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So if prediction is a really important
skill to develop, I'd ask everybody listening

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how much are you how much are
you practicing your prediction skills? Now that

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is very different since then standing in
the same place, sitting the same put

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over and over and over again,
drilling into the idea that if you see

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the ball going enough times from the
same place, you'll magically take that ability

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out onto the golf course with you. Now, I know that has got

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a part to play. We know
that some mechanics and understanding face control and

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path and all those things have a
part to play, but once you get

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out onto the golf course, you
better be good at predicting based on one

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attempt. So if you're not practice
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exactly. I was explaining to these
kids today that you have to hit the

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same part from the same place on
the golf course three or four or five

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times, you're in serious trouble.
I don't know how you would do that.

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So if you've got hit the same
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of bounds, which is going to
be pretty rare, the putting greena would

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amage. So you know what,
people take balls out at the first one

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three feet past, so they react
to that and they'll leave the knights one

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short then because they and everyone else
who plays golf as a genius. By

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the time we get to third attempt, we've managed to hold the third one,

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but we've recalibrated and we've learned from
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That's not predicting, that's reacting to
and learning from. We do not

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have that luxury on the golf course. You know, No, we don't.

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We're gonna take another time about and
we're back to continue this conversation with

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Gary Nicholl and Carl Morris right after
this. Okay, I need to ask

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a quick question about the visualization Gary, especially those young people that you were

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working in. Pin in or pin
out make a difference as far as visualization

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because with pin in then you have
something that is more than just the flat

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ground that you're looking at. It's
got something a hard target that you can

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go to. That's a great question. I've read about four very in depth

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surveys as studies on whether you should
have the pin in the pin night to

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conclusively say you must keep the pin
in and guess what the other two see

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out. So yeah, I still
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visualization perspective, having the pin in
on longer puts certainly curtly draws your attention

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to where the hole is, which
is never a bad thing because that's ultimately

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where you want your ball to go. You want your ball to finish.

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And I think that that kind of
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beacon signaling or drawing you into that
that end goal that destination, so it

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can be I mean, we're not
absolutists. We would never say you must

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use the pin as a visualization tool
or you must take it out and not

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use it. Experiment with one,
experiment with the other, and see which

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works best for you. But I
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important. You know, Carl mentioned
the line earlier, and we've experimented with

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a number of players over the last
few years with the concept of a much

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thicker line rather than you know,
most people who use a line on their

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ball, they tend to see a
very an extension of that very thin line

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that's on your ball, So they're
trying to put down a razor blade or

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a tight rope, if you like. But if you think about trying to

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put down the channel, as we
talk about in the in the video and

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in the book the Digital Program,
you know, we're trying to get you

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to think about a three ball channel
or a three ball highway that's going to

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lead you to your ultimate destination.
And the perception decreases massively when you've got

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a channel to hit down rather than
trying to to hit up down this very

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thin line. Because by definition,
if you're trying to hit or put your

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ball down a very thin line.
Then you're going to tense up. You're

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going to get a bit tight,
You're probably not breathing. Your brain's going

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to start racing. All your attention
is then going to focus back on you

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and what you have to do and
what the pattern has to do at the

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expense of what the ball has to
do, which was our original attention intense

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and I should say so having that
change of intention changes your where you focus

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your attention. So having that thicker
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creative with the color. There's the
number of people I've asked you said,

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I see a green line. Okay, just think about that for a second.

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You want something that's going to contrast, not bloed in. So you

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know, the brighter the color,
the better the results tend to be.

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And I often ask players when you
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end? What starts at the ball
and it finishes right at the edge of

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the hole. Okay, So basically
what your brain is picking up is I

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want to put to the edge of
the hole. Yeah, very few people

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will have the breach the entry point. Something is as simple as that can

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make all the difference. You know, sometimes I'll put a tea in the

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great say we've got a left right
breaking put and if this enter the hole

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is six o'clock on a clock face, and you want the ball to enter

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at eight pm. So if you
put a tea in the ground put at

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eight pm side front of the hole. You ask the player does that look

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like an easy task or a difficult
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say it's a difficult task. Well, that's a really small entry point.

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But if we move the teas to
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thought, you've got to get it
in somebody between as you know ten and

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two, all of a sudden that
target looks so much bigger, and it's

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dragging. You put to the back
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of the hole. You know,
if you if you hit a pup from

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ten feet and it stops it in
short, stay there by the back of

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the hole. It comes up an
inch. Yeah, if you in for

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the back of the hole, it
comes up and in short, well the

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whole four point two five inches in
every direction. So it's got a much

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much better chance of going in the
hole that way. Right of puts that

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are short, don't go in right, It's pretty simple. The other thing

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that you can do as well as
we're getting onto the the imagery again,

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it's just being playful with it.
You know. We've had some players who

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they'll create, let's say, they'll
create a red channel or a red line

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going into the hole, but then
even get even more creative where they actually

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see that there's liquid flowing down that
red channel. It's like it's like a

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it's like a mercury going into the
hole or whatever. It is, a

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lava flowing into the hole. And
it just seems that the richer that the

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images are of what the task is, the more engaged that we are in

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that pot, the more that seems
to supply the information from the brain then

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to the body to actually get the
job done. And it's it's it's a

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kind of non technical, nonlinear way
of doing it. It's in aging if

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you want the right side of the
brain, the creative side of the brain,

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which then seems to help the feel
element to it because you're you're not

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verbalizing, you're not telling yourself to
do something. You really tuned into the

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images and allowing them the field to
take over and respond to those images.

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Tiger always said he played and put
pictures, So what does that tell you?

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He was seeing before he was doing, but he was seeing what the

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ball was doing. He always reacted
to what he wanted the ball to do,

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which seems like the simplest, smartest
way to play the game. That's

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real golf smarter, very many smarter
than Tiger, of course, that's for

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sure. Do you really think that
he was probably and I say was.

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It's a shame, but we're saying
was about Tiger now, but one of

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the most intelligent golfers. As far
as his golf IQ. I mean,

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we've talked about in the States here
in basketball, if the guy has a

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high basketball IQ. You know,
the Tiger's golf IQ. It was just

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off the charts compared to the everybody
else. Yeah, could not dream more.

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I can't think of I can't think
of many golfers with a higher golf

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IQ. That's for sure. He
just he knew what he was doing every

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step of the way. But a
lot of it came from his early training.

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Carl, you knew a little bit
about that, Yeah, I mean

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certainly his background, his mother with
the sort of Buddhist train and things like

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that is mindfulness, the aspect mindfulness
practice that I know he did, or

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I believe he did, and the
work that he did with Jay bruns Or

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he was a Navy psychologist who was
a friend of Earl Worlds I believe.

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I mean, I don't know what
they did, but I'm pretty sure they

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must have played around with a lot
of imagery and creativity. But when you

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just said there Fred about golf in
IQ, if we drill into that a

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little bit, what is golf in
IQ? What does what does that actually

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mean? And how relevant is it
for everybody listening well to me? Golf

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in IQ is where you become very
attuned to the golf course, where you're

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00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,559
very attuned to the puzzle that the
golf course is setting for you, because

427
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you know, we'll say, you
know throughout the game that the golf course

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is speaking to you all the time. It's telling you what to do,

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but you've got to listen to it. And and most people are not listening

430
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,839
to the golf course. They're they're
so wrapped up in the minut shy of

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what they're trying to do with the
mechanics that they actually don't tune into the

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00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,839
subtleties of the golf course, the
subtleties of the wind that change the dead

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00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,319
direction, temperature, all those all
those kind of things that I think that

434
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the more the more you become involved
in what the golf ball needs to do

435
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,000
and the shots that you're trying to
create, the chips that you're trying to

436
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:05,759
create, the puts that you're trying
to create, you become much more attuned

437
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:09,039
to the golf course. You know, one of the things that we recommend

438
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:15,319
a lot of players do is actually
go out on the golf course, even

439
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,319
the course that you know really well, and actually and actually walk to something.

440
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,200
Jack Nicholas did it. Actually walked
the golf course backwards, start at

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the eighteenth green, look at the
perspective from the eighteenth green, and it'll

442
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,599
seem a lot wider than it does
when you play at the normal way round.

443
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But walk it backwards and then turn
around. And you know, the

444
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number of players I've worked with over
the years who I can look back on

445
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:44,640
it where we've actually walked practice rounds
because they've not had enough time to play

446
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:47,920
enough practice rounds. And when you
walk a practice round, you actually engage

447
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,079
that creative side of them. And
you start to see the shots that you

448
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:55,960
could play, you start to engage
the visualization skills, and it's a it's

449
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000
just a fun extra dimension that you
could have that virtually nobody thinks about,

450
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:05,960
you know, engage in this creative
aspect. I've had an issue for years

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where I've said that the USGA was
an advocate for the golf course and not

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the golfer, and it's going to
be hard to grow the game if you

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don't give the golfer more consideration.
But as we're recording this, yesterday was

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the finish of the Open Championship at
Royal Liverpool, won by Brian Harmon,

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and I think that it was a
really good example of you know, you

456
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talked about the golf IQ and understanding
what a golf course can do to the

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players. I thought that this past
weekend was a great example of that.

458
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:49,000
Absolutely. Yeah. The golf course
was asking question after question after question and

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Brian Harmon came up with the best
answers. Well, in his putting was

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remarkable. What thirty eight out of
thirty nine or fifty eight out of fifty

461
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:04,000
nine at under ten feet under ten
feet? Now there weren't all ten feet,

462
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,320
so might have been three, four
and five, but they were.

463
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:10,360
That's incredible, incredible. Yeah,
he held four hundred fifty feet of puts

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00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,400
all week. That's a lot of
puts. If you hold more than one

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00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,679
hundred feet of puts in around,
you're having a pretty special day. Four

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00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,639
hundred and fifty. I think he
led the putting steps, or certainly some

467
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:30,960
of the putting steps. Yeah,
he played very sensible golf. Some would

468
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say almost to the point of being
boring. But if hitting most fairies and

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00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,239
most screens is boring golf, then
I'll have some of that, please,

470
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And if using three puts is boring, again, I'll have some of that

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00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:51,400
please. Yeah, he just understood. I think everyone understood what the what

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the task was, and what the
questions were being asked of the players by

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the golf course or the golf course
designer. But he Yeah, he had

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the answers. He passed with flight. He passed the examination with flying colors.

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00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,039
All right, moren I have another
question about Brian, but we're gonna

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take another time out and I'll do
that right after this. Congratulations again,

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Brian Harmon. That was a remarkable
feat. But I have to say,

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if I was playing golf with Brian
Harmon as great as he hits the ball,

479
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as great as he's putting is,
I would go out of my mind

480
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:34,800
with the waggles. It was like
I would just want to yell, hit

481
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:44,400
the ball please, what's going on
there? And is it necessary? And

482
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,719
why is he doing that? I
think what every golfer is waiting for.

483
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,280
Freddy's what I called the ghost signal. Well, you get over the ball

484
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,079
and your brains that it says,
yeah, we're ready, we're ready to

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00:36:54,119 --> 00:37:00,599
go here, And clearly for Brian
a couple of waggles should in effect give

486
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:05,239
him the gold signal. I'm not
a big fan of overdoing that because I

487
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,119
think two waggles can turn into three, four and five. And it was

488
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:12,719
interesting on the back nine that the
waggles seem to increase a little bit.

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00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:19,039
So ultimately I think, what again, what is what is relevant for everybody

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00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:23,360
listening? I talk a lot about
with players about the idea of flow,

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00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:30,960
about the whole routine should actually flow. It's like it's like a dance almost

492
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,719
as you as you go from behind
the ball, you create the shot that

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00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,880
the practice swings, that you take, the movement that you make into the

494
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,760
shot. It should. I don't
like to see really stacato movements where it's

495
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,760
very rigid and you're trying to get
everything absolutely perfect. You'll find that if

496
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,920
you allow yourself to just select the
shot, create the shot, and then

497
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:55,760
flow through the rest of the routine. If the routine flows, then what

498
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,760
a surprise. The golf swing tends
to flow. So I think, you

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00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,679
know, just the very concept of
allowing flow into the process and not trying

500
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,360
to be perfect with it, not
trying to be so precise. I think

501
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:15,199
you know, for me, we've
talked about the three ball highway with with

502
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:20,199
putting, you could actually enlarge that
on the with the rest of the game.

503
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,480
You know, we've been told and
many many years that it's all about

504
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:27,519
picking the smallest possible target, you
know, the leaf on the tree idea

505
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:30,920
and things like that. Now I
would say if anybody, if anybody picks

506
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:37,320
really small targets and they play really
well, guess what they should continue doing

507
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,119
it. But an alternative view is
instead of picking really small targets, is

508
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:46,360
that you actually play around with channels
and not just as we said on the

509
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,440
green that you can see a channel
working into the hole. You know,

510
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,000
one of the one of the players
that I've worked with for a long time,

511
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,679
he had he had a decent a
decent open lorry cantry finished in the

512
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,400
top twenty. And we've talked a
lot with Lorie over the last few years

513
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:07,679
about seeing shots working down channels because
he feels actually when he picks small targets,

514
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,199
he actually feels it really restricts him
because he feels it's too precise.

515
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:15,360
He can feel as though he gets
into I have to be perfect mode,

516
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:20,239
whereas if he can really see a
really nice wide channel, then he lets

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00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,760
go. He actually he actually led
the driving statistics for the week there,

518
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,000
and that would be something again for
everybody listening. Play around with that.

519
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:32,559
Go onto the range and use alignment
sticks for what we believe they should be

520
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:36,880
used for, is not so much
being down by your feet, but actually

521
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,760
stand out onto the range, go
out a few feet in front of you,

522
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:44,320
and play around with what you need
to have as a width of channel.

523
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,320
Now, some people might find a
faily narrow channel works well for them,

524
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,760
other people, depending on their ability, a little bit wider channel.

525
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:55,159
But it's a great feeling to stand
there on the range and think, I

526
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:59,360
just can't miss this channel and you're
just going to let it go down.

527
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:06,440
Damn that channel channel element. So
again, it's just changing your perception of

528
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:12,119
the difficulty of the task. And
part of the video that I absolutely loved

529
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,239
was the idea of looking at the
hole and picking the backside of it and

530
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:22,679
widening the channel. That that really
helped me a lot this weekend. Also,

531
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,840
I have found, and this is
I don't know, you know,

532
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:32,639
we're talking about the smallest possible target
that once I have determined my pace and

533
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:39,280
then determine the line, is picking
a spot, a very small spot about

534
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,760
six to eight to maybe ten inches
in front of the ball and making sure

535
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,159
that the ball rolls over that spot, as opposed to picking a line where

536
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,639
I want the apex to be and
then what the break is going to be

537
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:58,679
is just as if I can get
the ball on that spot and work it

538
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,719
from there. I was having much
greater success, even especially with long puts,

539
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,639
but with short puts, which is
my kryptonite, you know, the

540
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:14,000
inside of four feet that just like
shouldn't be a problem that I tend to

541
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,960
miss more of those than I want
to. I think we all do.

542
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:22,159
But I started not focusing on the
whole. I started focusing on a spot,

543
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:25,920
making sure I just get to the
line built line over that spot,

544
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,800
you know, and get it started
properly, and it made a big difference.

545
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:37,440
Whatever works is that okay, works
for you, that's what works for

546
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,159
you. Again, you know,
we are not absolute as We're not saying

547
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:45,320
you must do this way, you
must do it that way. These are

548
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,920
some concepts. Take them, personalize
and make them your own. Explore with

549
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,119
this, Explore with that, Explore
with the next seg and see what works

550
00:41:53,119 --> 00:42:00,079
best for you. Because that's Golf
is such an individual and personal game,

551
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,920
and the putting aspect of it.
You know, if you pick out the

552
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,239
ten best putter statistically in the world, the one thing that they will have

553
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,119
in common is they all do it
their own way. You know, it's

554
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,880
all about they have. They may
have different styles or different groups or stances

555
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:20,920
or putters or you know, some
might have a toa hang, so might

556
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,320
have a more of a mallet much
of the love of blade. It doesn't

557
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,679
really matter. It's about find out
what works best for you. And once

558
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,920
you've got that magic formula, the
one thing it would suggest you do,

559
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:35,920
we we would both suggest you do, is please write it down because We

560
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,960
always think we're going to remember these
things, and we rarely do. So

561
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:43,639
we're very big in the power of
journaling and writing these things down. You

562
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:45,519
know, I always ask my students, you know, did you write that

563
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:47,800
down when you played really well?
Well, yeah, it was good,

564
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:53,559
but I'll remember what was doing.
Really Have you ever forgotten a significant others

565
00:42:53,719 --> 00:43:00,960
birthday, birthday or anniversary or we
all have, right, So if that's

566
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,079
really important to us, we forget
that. What remembering what we did and

567
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:09,960
we played well three sundays ago pretty
slim. So yeah, get a nice

568
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,039
notebook, nicer pen, and make
sure you're right down all your learnings,

569
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:19,679
all these great things that you've you've
managed to learn and apply to your golf

570
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,400
game. Because one of the things
that people say read that is that you

571
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,519
know the problem is with golf is
that it's not a reaction resport like baseball

572
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,880
or basketball is. But in a
way not in a way golf is a

573
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,719
reaction resport. Is that you will
react to the images inside of your head

574
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:43,519
that you have before you actually hit
the shot. So you know, what

575
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:46,599
happens with the stroke, what happens
with the swing is after the horse has

576
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:51,360
bolted, let's come back a little
bit and let's find out what image is

577
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,639
that you have, what is your
attention on before you actually play the shot,

578
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,800
before you actually hit the pot.
And as you described, you know

579
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,519
you've come up with some things,
some images that you can work with rolling

580
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,920
over that spot, down the channel, You've come up with something that your

581
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,039
body responds to in term of imagery
before you actually hit the pot. So

582
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:17,599
I think you know that would be
our overall message for everybody is understand that

583
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:22,360
you will be thinking something before every
shot and every port. You will have

584
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,400
something going through your head. Fundamental
principle is that is what you think?

585
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:31,000
Is what you're thinking? Is it
useful or useless? Because the results that

586
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:35,559
you get in will tell you which
are thus two categories you tend to focus

587
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:39,480
on. So it's it's about and
that's why Gary said writing these things down

588
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:44,320
is so important. You need to
unlock your code. You need to understand

589
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,559
your golf in DNA of the things
that work for you. You know,

590
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:51,119
success leaves a trail behind, but
we don't often look for it, but

591
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,199
explore the imagery. Explore the things
that you do before you actually pull the

592
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,880
trigger. But what's crazy about golf? Is what may work for you today.

593
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,320
You know you said if it works, keep doing it in three or

594
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,639
four rounds. It may not be
working again. It may not be working

595
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:12,199
anymore. I mean, nothing is
perfect and nothing is forever. It feels

596
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,480
like it's an evolving it's it's a
living thing, isn't it? A living

597
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:22,159
organism? Isn't so? But we
tend to find that these things stopped working

598
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:30,239
when you stop doing them. M
hm. So you know you've really focused

599
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,039
on something for three or four weeks
and then you think, okay, I've

600
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,920
got that, and your attention will
wonder somewhere else. Not consciously, you

601
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,719
won't make a conscious eword to stop
doing it, but you think subconstantly,

602
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,639
okay, I've cracked that that that
I know that works, But I wonder

603
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:53,159
what would happen if so I just
added this or added that. So you

604
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:58,840
know, when you create your favorite
meal, it's your favorite meal because you

605
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,079
use the same ingredients and you cook
it the same way. Once you start

606
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:05,599
messing about with cooking times and adding
more and more ingredients, it's not going

607
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:08,480
to test the same. The outcome
will not be the same. So it's

608
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:15,280
finding your magic form that Now,
Yes, we sometimes the brain likes to

609
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,199
reset, so it's sometimes we get
a little bit bored with doing the same

610
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,920
same time and time again, so
you might have to go away and try

611
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,519
something else. But if you've written
down what's worked in the past, you've

612
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:29,440
always got that to go back to. It might mean that sometimes you do

613
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:32,079
have to go and try something for
a day or two or a week to

614
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:36,719
discover that what you were doing in
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now, getting back to the waggle
for just a moment, It's interesting because

653
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,679
I think about Lynn Marriott and Pa
Nelson who talk about the thinking box and

654
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:07,360
the hitting box or the thought box
and the shots and all that waggle stuff,

655
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,079
all that getting ready, all that
should be done before you step up

656
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:15,039
to the ball. At least I
firmly believe with what they profess on that

657
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,880
and have incorporated it. So once
I feel comfortable with what my mechanics need

658
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,599
to be and where my target needs
to be and what my line needs to

659
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:28,320
be, then I'll just step up
to the ball and hit it. And

660
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:32,159
the waggling it's like, get on
with it. Really told me crazy to

661
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:37,800
watch him that. Yeah, but
who are we to say that's wrong?

662
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:45,239
The Open champion we're not. Yeah, but I can't imagine that would I

663
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,840
can't imagine that would work forever because
it's almost like he's delaying the inevitable.

664
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:52,679
He's trying to as Carl said,
he's not quite ready to hit this price

665
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:58,599
of Goobutson just yet. So it
was interesting certainly. The commentary in the

666
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,559
UK, a couple of the commentators
mentioned that it would be interesting to see

667
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:10,239
if the frequency and volume of wigles
increased as the pressure intensified and that certainly

668
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:17,119
seemed. I wasn't actually counting them, but it's certainly appeared going up and

669
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,199
up and up and up and up
and up and up. And perhaps he

670
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,440
needed to do that to just get
himself ready to go to calm himself down.

671
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:30,400
Perhaps who knows. We don't know. We all we can see is

672
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,679
what we see. We don't know
what's going on in his heads. So

673
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:37,039
until we know what's going on these
heads, we can't. All we could

674
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:40,119
do is make an observation on what
we see, and we might get it

675
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:44,039
right, but we might get it
wrong. So it's very you know,

676
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,519
I'm sure there'll be a lot of
experts who'll be jumping on the bandwagon saying,

677
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:49,159
well this, you've got to do
this, or you've got to do

678
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:51,199
that, or you shouldn't be doing
this, or you should be doing that.

679
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,360
We don't know why he was doing
it. We can only make assumptions

680
00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:01,199
that he wasn't quite ready to play, if you like. So another waggle,

681
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:04,760
another waggle. And I don't think
it was a conscious scene. Sure,

682
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,239
he just didn't appear to be quite
ready to pull the trigger. But

683
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:14,960
as I say, he's sitting at
home with the Claret jug right now and

684
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,360
we're talking about him, so he
must have been doing something right right,

685
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,480
And you know we probably all sat
there a Sunday morning going, yeah,

686
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:24,920
this is not there's no way he
can hold up with this. But then

687
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,199
again, he did it right.
Maybe needed the waggles, maybe it helped

688
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,119
him calm down and he hung tough, he ground one thing I would pretty

689
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:37,400
much be and I don't know what
he was thinking, but I would be

690
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,559
pretty certain Fred that what looks physically
quite uncomfortable with all the waggles, for

691
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,440
him in that moment when he was
playing, was ment was mentally quite calming.

692
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,199
That he's his mind would not have
been jumping around all over the place,

693
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,079
even though for us watching his waggles, you know, it seemed like

694
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:59,079
an eternity at times, but you
know for him, he would he would

695
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:01,559
have just been his mind would have
been settled in one place. Now,

696
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,519
as we said earlier on, it's
not something I would recommend people do because

697
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:09,480
usually two waggles turns into three,
turns into four, and then you could

698
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,079
have a situation like Surgey or had
a number of years ago when he couldn't

699
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:15,280
take the club away at all.
Could he because he had so many,

700
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,079
so many waggles. But you know, I know one of your previous guests,

701
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,960
Jim Waldron, he was on my
podcast recently and it reinforced to me.

702
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:30,360
He talks about a lot about focus
points and the idea of keeping your

703
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,280
attention in one place during for the
duration of the of the golf swing,

704
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,239
you know, and I would reinforce
that that's that's the holy grail, really

705
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,320
finding a place that you can keep
your attention stable for the time that you

706
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,519
swing that golf club. Right,
and with the bio kinesiologists are telling us

707
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:52,079
that focus should not be on your
mechanics. It should be on something external,

708
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:58,000
although Jim will have variations of that, but focusing on a target,

709
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,960
a spot, something like that.
I do want to ask questions based on

710
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:10,800
the video. Now, the idea
that that pace determines the line? Okay,

711
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:16,639
yeah, how do you determine how
is pace determined? How do you

712
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:22,000
know what the pace is? Is
that on how the ball drops in the

713
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,079
in the front, middle and back
of the hole. Is that a body

714
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:30,599
thing? How do you determine what
the pace is? You could have figured

715
00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:35,360
that out from green reading reading the
green. Most people talk about green reading

716
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,679
as a lightn thing. But what
we try to encourage people to do is

717
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:45,280
have a look at the pup from
a certain aspect. We talked about low

718
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,639
side reading, so you would never
hit a shot off of course, if

719
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,960
you didn't know how far you had. You know, we've everyone's got a

720
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:57,079
range finder, a laser or yardish
break, whatever it is, so you

721
00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:00,000
would never hit a shot into a
green unless you have far add But we

722
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:04,880
all hit parts not knowing how far
we have. So what we're trying to

723
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,840
do is established how long the part
is. Is it uphill, is it

724
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,599
downhill? Is it left to right? So slopes, speed of green,

725
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,800
and length of part are going to
be the things that will influence the pace.

726
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:22,519
So once we've kind of figured out
if it's uphill and we've done a

727
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,920
bit of practice on the putting green, before we go out a bit of

728
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,800
training to find out why how the
greens are running, hopefully they'll be the

729
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,679
same pace as the ones in the
golf course. You've then got to figure

730
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:38,239
out again, going back to Carl's
earlier concept of prediction, you've got to

731
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,800
predict. I don't think there is
It's more of an art than a science.

732
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:47,719
Now, I'm sure some clever scientists
will and have already figured out ways

733
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:54,840
to measure slope in degrees and whatever, but not all greens are going to

734
00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:00,599
be the same pace. So it
is very much that there's there's a bit

735
00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:04,880
of guesswork involved, but it's an
educated guess. So the better you can

736
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:12,760
understand how the topography that the green
is going to influence the pace. And

737
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:20,280
again, the things that will influence
that will be slope distance and green speed.

738
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:22,320
Is the grass long, is it
short? Is it into the grains?

739
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,440
It down? Grain? Is it
cross the grain? What? We

740
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,840
don't have so much grain in this
country, but I'm shooting. I know

741
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,480
that certain parts of the world there's
a grain plays a big influence. And

742
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:37,880
obviously hitting the ball out the middle
of the putter will influence how far the

743
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,280
ball travels as well. And we
all know we're supposted out in the middle.

744
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,320
But whims the last time anyone actually
paid any attention to that. It's

745
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,360
a real that's a real skill,
and that is one of the real skills

746
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:55,159
that allows you to gain some control
or influence over the pace of the pip.

747
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:02,320
But I think just the whole concept
of knowing that will very much influence

748
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:08,440
or dictate the line is the best
place to start. And again, going

749
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:15,960
back to one of the things we
talked about earlier that if if ordinarily we

750
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:19,800
choose a line, then we decide
how hard we're going to hit it,

751
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,119
we're not very that's not very effective
or efficient, then it might be wise

752
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:28,880
to try something else, to flip
that on its head and think about how

753
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,199
hard are you going to hit it
before you then choose a line, which

754
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:37,559
is pretty much what we do with
every other shot. You know, if

755
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:39,119
it's a pitch shot or a seven
hour and a six hour or a nine

756
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:44,079
hour and whatever it is into a
green, we need to and we have

757
00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:49,760
decided how much force we're going to
apply. Because the first thing you want

758
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,039
to do, why do you hit
your ball into ferry? What's the first

759
00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:53,719
thing you do? You find out
how far you've got to the front of

760
00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:00,519
the green and or to the flag. But it's almost like so from from

761
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:04,320
the back of the from the tee
to the front of the green, it's

762
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,199
all about distance. But then as
soon as we break that barrier, we

763
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:15,400
crossed the barrier from fairway onto green, our attention shifts from distance to direction

764
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,320
because the line is perhaps a bit
more tangible than pace. Line is a

765
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,320
bit more obvious than pace, perhaps
a bit easier to see. It's quite

766
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:29,599
difficult to visualize pace until or unless
you go back to what carmationed earlier,

767
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,960
when that line becomes liquid or fluid. So if you're if you're pouring liquid

768
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,360
into the hole, it's not going
so fast that's going to overflow in a

769
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,480
second where it's actually going to run
right over the top, but it is

770
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:46,440
going to flow fast enough to get
into the hole. So if you were

771
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,840
standing on a green that had a
slope and you were pouring water or some

772
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,679
other liquid onto the green that's going
to reach the hole, you would soon

773
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:01,599
know how much to tip over the
jug in order to get the liquid onto

774
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:07,119
the surface. So it's going to
reach the whole at the appropriate Your brain

775
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:09,400
and our brains bodies are a lot
smarter than we give them credit for a

776
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:16,239
lot of the time. All right, So a number of episodes back,

777
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,679
a couple of months ago, we
had Tim Tucker on the podcast, and

778
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,199
the following week Tim went on to
carry the bag for kid Kitty Yama,

779
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:29,679
who won on the tour, and
one of the things that really jumped out

780
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:34,679
to me with tim was and something
I've done for a long time, so

781
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:38,639
I love having this confirmation of it. Is when we get out to the

782
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:43,880
fairway, when our ball lands,
we pull out our our range finder and

783
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,000
we try to determine the length of
what it is to the middle front or

784
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,519
directly to the pin. But once
we get on the green, we don't

785
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:53,239
figure out what the distance is.
We just eyeball it right. And he's

786
00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:59,800
a huge advocate of pacing off your
puts right. And then to me,

787
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:04,360
that helps me determine what my body
has to do. And I'm going back

788
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,119
to what do you do to determine
the pace? And that's a physical thing,

789
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:13,880
you know, not just a visual
or you know calculation, it's a

790
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:19,679
physical thing. How we determine pace? Do you advocate to paste them off,

791
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:22,400
to walk off the puts get your
distance every time? Well, it's

792
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,519
funny. We do an exercise we've
done this in schools and clinics and classes

793
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:31,880
for a few years now where we
asked someone to look at their puts from

794
01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:36,440
down the line, so they stand
behind the ball and we ask them to

795
01:00:36,519 --> 01:00:39,559
turn their putter upside dies to the
hole that the heads in their hands and

796
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:44,440
use the putter like a walking stick, and we ask them to close their

797
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:49,360
eyes and walk to where they think
the hole is and tap the green to

798
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,079
see how closely get to it.
How many times we've seen people walk past

799
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:55,360
that that happens, and it's usually
the guy who's a good pot through does

800
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,840
walk past the hole if to get
it up there? Yeah, so most

801
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:07,960
people underestimates the distance because looking down
the light for shortens everything. So that's

802
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:15,360
why we advocate going to low sight
to get books and the distance because without

803
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,519
knowing the distance, and if it's
up pillar downhill, we can't possibly know

804
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:22,000
how hard to how hard to hit
the pot. And if we don't know

805
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:24,360
how hard we're going to hit it, how can we choose the light again?

806
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:31,159
What if that works for you?
Brett? Please keep doing well.

807
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:38,320
This podcast all about me so and
another thing that I've found to be very

808
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,199
interesting this years ago. This is
from Jeff Mangum. There's also another putting

809
01:01:43,199 --> 01:01:49,199
instructor is to visualize our back to
the visualization part of the speed that the

810
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:53,000
ball would drop into the hole,
what it gets to but then go backwards

811
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,880
and then take it all the way
back to the putter and as soon as

812
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,320
you bring your attention right back to
the putter, then follow through with the

813
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:05,360
stroke and get it to the pace
that you just saw it leaving the pattern

814
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,199
thoughts. Yeah, I mean that
was that was something out of the hole

815
01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:13,239
as well as going it's not going
to come out like a rocket right,

816
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,920
and it's not going to come out
just prepop to the top of the hole

817
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,239
and get find its way back onto
green. It's going to come out with

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01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,719
the right pace or the appropriate pace. It was something apparently Jack Nicholas used

819
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,639
to do, used to actually see
the ball go into the hole and come

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01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:31,239
back out of the hole, and
that would that would create a really rich

821
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:37,199
representation of what of what the task
does. But you know, we keep,

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01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:42,119
we keep sort of coming back around
to this principle of play around with

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01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:46,119
the imagery, play around with what
goes in your head before you actually create

824
01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:49,719
the put But the other thing I
would say as well, Freddy, is

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01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,159
that you know, in in people's
training, how much time do people actually

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01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:58,719
pay attention to improve in their pace
When they're working on the putting. You'll

827
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:01,559
see a lot of time, a
lot of attention trying to get the stroke

828
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:06,159
right, which again as we say
has its part to play, but spend

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01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:13,119
a little bit more time engaging and
giving your brain tasks to improve pace control.

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01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,199
Go on, go on to the
putting green and when we love doing

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01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:20,719
this one is gone the Green.
It's the only time we'd recommend you do

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01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,239
it. It's gone the Green with
four balls and see if you can complete

833
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:28,079
this task from ten fifteen twenty feet
with the first ball, so if you

834
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:30,840
can roll it just past the hole. With the second ball, see if

835
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,599
you can leave it to the right
of the whole. Set third ball,

836
01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:35,920
leave it to the left of the
hole, and the fourth ball leave it

837
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,440
short of the whole. So you're
engaging the brain to actually increase feel this

838
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:45,400
elusive thing called feel. You're training
it in a way by not just trying

839
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,039
to get it right all the time, but moving either side of correct.

840
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,480
So it's a wonderful, wonderful exercise
that I like that one a lot.

841
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:59,119
I like it a lot, Carl, tell us more about your padet yet

842
01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:03,800
the Brain Booster. It comes out
every every Friday, Fred. We've we've

843
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:08,000
had some some pretty good guests on
there over the over the years. We

844
01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:10,360
need to get you on as a
guest, telling your life story. That

845
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,840
will be the next one that we
do the evolution of a podcast. But

846
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,360
yeah, it comes out every Friday, the brain Booster excellent and Gary now

847
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:24,199
tell us about this digital program on
the last art of putting. How do

848
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:27,480
we get access to it? Yes, it's really We created it as kind

849
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:32,079
of a digital or visual companion to
the to the book The Lost Started Putting,

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which as we said you know earlier
on, it's been out for five

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:42,039
years and now we've had some amazing
feedback from all round the world from golfers

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of all standards, from everyone from
beginners to tour pros to whatever, and

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been great and it's it's been a
real, a real joy to do.

854
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So we created this digital companion if
you like to as we mentioned earlier,

855
01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:01,719
to help perhaps bring some of the
dryness that you can get from reading a

856
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,000
book and bring it to add some
color to it, if you like,

857
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:09,840
add some a bit more depth to
it. So it is now out and

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available at either the mind Factor dot
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Yeah, so your listeners get a
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Thank you. That's very generous.
So I appreciate it. Well.

865
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:58,519
I'll tell you that I enjoyed the
book thoroughly and five years ago and learned

866
01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:03,760
a lot from it. But the
the video is a very powerful companion and

867
01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:09,400
very helpful, and I just want
to thank you both for putting that out

868
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,760
there and being so comfortable on camera
because you made it easy to watch both

869
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,519
of you. I was just amazed
at how comfortable you were and easy,

870
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:24,400
just flowing talking, not making any
you know, gaffs or going in the

871
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:29,480
middle of a sentence. You both
did an amazing job and this was really

872
01:06:29,519 --> 01:06:32,639
helpful as special today. Thank you, Thanks Brat, thanks for having us

873
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:40,239
on again. Yeah, thanks for
the opportunity. Appreciate it again. If

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you'd like access to their video of
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really appreciate their time together considering they're
in the UK and I'm here in Cia,

878
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:05,480
California. So episode nine hundred four
a couple of weeks ago featuring John

879
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:12,239
Ericsson has really taught me a lot
about social media. Strangely enough, now,

880
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,199
we created a short video from the
episode where John was talking about why

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01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:20,440
golf courses don't need to be made
longer, and it's kind of gone viral

882
01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:28,280
on Instagram and Facebook with over thirty
thousand views in three days. That's pretty

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,400
huge for me. But the comments
that people are making, especially those who

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01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:38,360
have no idea of John or who
he is and what he's done in the

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game, or frankly nasty. I
mean, there's some pretty ugly things being

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said, but I guess that's how
social media works, and that's what being

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01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:56,320
controversial does. Not my style,
but so be it. As I always

888
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,159
tell people who don't like an episode, hey stay tuned next week because we'll

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