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I got a string going on here. 18 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:14.040 Something just kid with my dog, something to kill your dog? My dog. 19 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:15.799 We're flying through there over the tree. I don't know how it did 20 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:22.120 it. Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All I saw was my 21 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:23.799 dog coming over the fence, and name was dead once you hit the grill. 22 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:26.560 I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming over 23 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:47.640 the fence. Sat, what are you reporting? We got some wonder or 24 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:57.640 something crawling around out here? Did you see what it was? It was 25 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.359 enough out here looking them new to window now and I don't see anything. 26 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:10.080 I don't want to go outside, point Kara. Hello, hit the buddy 27 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:14.039 out here? What went on out There's thought of a bit? Is about 28 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:16.400 sixty nine? I don't know. Easy him out there. Yeah, I'm 29 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:21.960 walking right away. Greetings is Fred in Alaska. What I wanted to share 30 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:28.479 with you today came in from Jack and his buddy. We'll name him Eric. 31 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:31.840 Okay. Jack emailed me to tell me about three years ago they were 32 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:37.400 up at the McLaren River off the Dnelly Highway where they had a friend launched. 33 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:42.680 Them launched in kayaks and him and his buddy were gonna go caribou hunting. 34 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.520 They're gonna take the McLaren River on down to where it reaches up with 35 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:52.240 Tyrone Creek. They launched and they start paddling away. They're doing their thing. 36 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.280 They're making headway. It's an adventure, you know. They packed light, 37 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.400 just little single man pop up tents. They're doing state camp as they 38 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:02.960 went along. Caribou in this area. For those of you who have been 39 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.840 out there, you know what I'm talking about, Like the Alphabets and Gulkana 40 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.639 River and all that. South of the the Nalley Highway, you'll find little 41 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:14.360 pockets of caribou seven or eight together, maybe three or four. They're kind 42 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.120 of spread out and kind of over here and over there, and with the 43 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:20.280 hunters coming, they kind of even break down in smaller groups at times. 44 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:24.800 So these guys figured they would hedge their bets kayak in super quiet and stealth, 45 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:30.039 just kind of peeping things out. So they had quite a way to 46 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.680 go down to the McLaren River. As they're coming up to where they're going 47 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:38.280 to meet the branch of Tyrone Creek, they stopped there for the night. 48 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:43.840 They set up their camp on the west side of the McLaren where the two 49 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.960 creeks kind of meet now. He said. It was uneventful, a lot 50 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:53.039 of birds chirping and things going on up until about the last mile before they 51 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:58.680 stop to set up their spike camp. They're hours into this hopefully one week 52 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.560 long adventure. They had their friends drop them. They planned on having their 53 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.879 friends pick them back up at the same spot. Why they chose kayaks to 54 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.400 caribou hunt, I don't know. I didn't get a clear answer on that. 55 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.240 I was told for the adventure of it. Caribo ain't overly big, 56 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:16.600 but it'd be kind of cumbersome on a kayak. I think they set up 57 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:20.199 their spike camp just a little bernerstove. They had no fire or nothing like 58 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:27.360 that. Going during hunting season, We're damn near twelve and twelve light cycle 59 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.560 up here. Things are dark at night. They had all their provisions and 60 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:33.800 gear, a lot of freeze, dried goods, things like that, easy 61 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:39.399 to cook stuff. As they're plotting out where they were going to venture. 62 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.439 They were going to stake camp there and then the next morning wee hours of 63 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.000 the morning they were going to go on foot and check out the immediate area 64 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.319 to see what animals were moving. As got up the next morning, it 65 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:55.519 was what he expressed was a deafening quiet, the kind of quiet that makes 66 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.720 you feel like you lost your hearing. He tells his buddy Eric, Hey, 67 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:00.720 you know something's I think there might be a bear in the area. 68 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:05.839 Jack is First Nations. He's from a village. He asked me to leave 69 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:11.399 that portion out, but he is First Nations. He's avid hunter outdoors men 70 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:14.800 can read the signs. He knows what's up. I was aware of the 71 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.759 hairy Man, but never bought into it. He never had anything to tell 72 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.879 him otherwise, so he was a huge skeptic. As they started out that 73 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.480 morning, just light enough for them to see the game trailer walking down. 74 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.959 This is kind of a marshy area. I've showed you examples of that before. 75 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.839 So as they're going down this game trail and there's literally very little cover 76 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.199 until you start getting back to the hills, and then you got all the 77 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:41.160 thick alders and willows and stuff. So they were making their way and they're 78 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.759 being real quiet and whispering now and then they would stop and kind of glass 79 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.759 down because there's a little bit of a fog lifting Eric was doing the spotting. 80 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.959 Oric says, hey, we got movement, you know, eleven o'clock. 81 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:56.079 So immediately Jack grabs his rifle and he's looking through a scope to see 82 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:58.480 what kind of movement do we got? Do we got moose, caribou? 83 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:01.399 Bear? You know? Is it the we're suspecting? And all they saw 84 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:05.000 was a dark shadow just off in the distance, moving to their left. 85 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:09.720 They figured it, huh, well, it's coming towards the game trail we're 86 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.839 on. Let's continue on. Let's keep our wits about us and keep looking 87 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:16.439 around. See what this is. Maybe it's a nice bull moose, you 88 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:21.199 know, and we philip moose tag. Eric had the moose tag and his 89 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:26.360 caribou tags and Jack had his caribou tag. So they got kind of anxious 90 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.439 for a moose. And then they started talking, well, if we get 91 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:30.639 a moose, it's gonna take a couple of trips to get it all back 92 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:35.240 up the McLaren River to the landing there at the bridge. So they were 93 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:38.319 discussing it, and they decided, well, if we get it, we 94 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:40.360 get it. They wanted meat, and that's what they were there for. 95 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:44.279 They weren't trophy hunting. They were there to eat, so they continued on 96 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:47.560 down this game trail. Now, I've been in situations where you're going through 97 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:51.240 a misty fog that's lifting up off the tundra in the hills. The visibility 98 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:56.879 nearby is okay, but it reaches a certain point that no matter your vision, 99 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.399 everything is just then the fog. There's nothing you can do about it. 100 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.040 It's like it reaches a certain point of distance and it's like a wall. 101 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:09.160 So as they're going along, they figured, okay, we should be 102 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.680 coming up to where this thing was moving unless it moved out of our direction. 103 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.639 We should be coming up on where we should cross paths soon. The 104 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.240 whole time they had been hiking, it had been in the course of about 105 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.120 two and a half hours. But they're moving real slow, so they didn't 106 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:26.399 make a great huge distance from their camp, but they had made some progress 107 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:29.800 going up towards some of these little mounds that come up out of the tundra. 108 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.560 They're kind of like little buttes and a rolling hill. Others down south 109 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.959 tod probably call them mountains. They're keeping an eye on this fog bank and 110 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:42.199 their limited visibility, so they hunker down on this little knoll, a little 111 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.639 tundra knoll, and it kind of slopes down away from them, and it's 112 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.439 open. It's open for about If the fog wasn't there, they could easily 113 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:55.439 see for miles in all directions from this particular point. So Eric's doing the 114 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:59.399 glass thing. Jack was adjusting his pack. He had something in his pack 115 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:03.040 digging in his back and it had been kind of painful. It was the 116 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.199 first time they stopped for any length of time for him to adjust his backpack. 117 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.959 All of a sudden, he feels a hand on him, like banging 118 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.319 him, like really hard, and he was like, hey, what the 119 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:15.480 hell. And Eric's like, there's something in the fog over there, and 120 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:20.079 it's moving, but it's moving laterally back and forth. Jack goes, no, 121 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.639 it's probably just the wind's blowing just a little bit. It's probably just 122 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.639 willows or alders blowing and it's just looking that way, and he goes, 123 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:30.560 no, No, I saw arms. So immediately that got Jack's attention. 124 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.879 He hurries up with his backpack and stuff and gets it all shut up and 125 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.240 set off to the side and grabs his rifle as he's glassing. He's not 126 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.080 paying attention to Eric. Eric has grabbed his stuff, moved around behind him, 127 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.000 and came up on his left hand side and goes, I'm going to 128 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:48.399 flank you. Go forward, and he goes, We're not going to split 129 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.799 up and go after a dark shadow on the fog. It's just not going 130 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.559 to go down that way. His buddy was a little overeager, a young 131 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:58.919 hunter, maybe three or four hunts under his belt, so he kind of 132 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.840 buck fever kind of. He was a little over zealous, and Jack got 133 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.440 him calm down and says, look, we'll methodically move forward, keep an 134 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:09.279 eye on where it's moving, keep an eye on our wind, all the 135 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:11.440 standard hunting stuff. You know, he's trying to bring him through the ropes. 136 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:16.200 So as they're moving forward progressively, they're kind of going back and forth 137 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.720 in the tundra. Meanwhile, they keep an eye on this thing moving. 138 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.440 But as they're moving closer, it seems to stay just inside the fog to 139 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.919 where they can't fully make it out. They'll catch a dark shadow moving or 140 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.639 just kind of partial silhouette. You know. They didn't have anything confirmed. 141 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:37.440 They didn't really see anything other than this figure moving. So after about a 142 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.320 half hour forty five minutes of this, Jack said, screw this, I 143 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:45.000 feel like we're not getting anywhere on this. Let's back off whatever it is. 144 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.559 We'll, you know, let the morning sunlight come up, burn off 145 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.480 this bog, and maybe it'll just be bedded down right in this area. 146 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:56.720 So they go back up to where they were. Eric is very rambunctious and 147 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:00.440 anxious. He wants to go get it. Jack's trying to call down, 148 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.879 like, hey, look, if we rush in there, we potentially scare 149 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.759 off that and while that runs off, it could scare off caribou that were 150 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.720 after and various other things. Calmed down, Let's let this fog rise a 151 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.360 little bit. So they sat there for approximately two hours started raining on them. 152 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:18.879 Things were kind of socked in and it didn't look like it was going 153 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:24.039 to make much progress. And then after about that period of time, all 154 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.879 of a sudden, the sun broke through in one spot, and little by 155 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.559 little, the whole area was clearing out of the fog. Once the fog 156 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:37.360 cleared, they noticed caribou way across moving along the tundra away from them well 157 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.519 over a thousand yards. Because Eric was using the spotting scope, they weren't 158 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:43.600 catching up to those cariboo, but they were excited. There's game in the 159 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.360 area, at least, you know, within visual sight, something positive to 160 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.200 look forward to instead of this dark shadow in the fog. So they get 161 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.759 geared up to start hiking down the direction of Cariboo. Were going in hopes 162 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:00.559 that there were other ones bedded down that hadn't gotten up to move around, 163 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:05.360 do their thing, go eat, so they get their gear on. Jack 164 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.720 said that's when they first caught whiff of a god awful smell. He said 165 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:18.000 it was like boiling cabbage with foot, funk, body odor, dog piss 166 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.600 and dead meat type of smell. So they continue going slowly, keeping their 167 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.759 eyes out for any movement of cariboo. As they're moving along, they get 168 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.240 up to the area where they last seen this dark figure moving in the fog. 169 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.679 Jack is all of a sudden bumped again against his arm as they're walking 170 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.000 along, and Eric is going down to the ground trying to pull him down 171 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.320 with them. So he kneels down and it's trying to assess, what the 172 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:45.399 hell do you want. Eric is explaining, there's movement right over there in 173 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.960 those alders. So there was a group of alders about fifty yards away. 174 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.360 Alders in those areas they look like small bushes from a distance, but you 175 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.200 get up on it and it's twelve foot tall. So Jack was aware that, 176 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:01.720 well, whatever's over there, because Eric said it was peaking his head 177 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.799 out the top, it had to be one big freakin moose or caribou to 178 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.399 peek its head above, you know, ten twelve foot alders to look at 179 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.759 us, and he goes, what are you talking about? Eric was like 180 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:16.480 it was a bigfoot. Jack immediately shut him down. He was like, 181 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.639 there is no way in hell there's a big foot out here. You're crazy, 182 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:24.000 and Eric's like, no, I know what I saw. I saw 183 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.360 it through the spotting scope. I saw it clear his day as soon as 184 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:31.120 I scanned over that way, the kids walking with the spotting scope and stopping 185 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:37.399 periodically and glassing, which it's doable, not very practical. So he viewed 186 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.120 this thing through the spotting scope that he was carrying with him. Jack could 187 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.720 see the fear in his eye, so he took him a little more serious. 188 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.639 He still dismissed it being a sasquatch or Harryman, but he took him 189 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.519 more serious that he actually saw something and it spooked him so out of respect 190 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:54.360 for that fear, he said, well, let's check it out. We 191 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.960 don't want to get stalked and eaten by a bear. You know, it 192 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:00.759 could have been a big bear, you know, eyeball on us to you 193 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.720 know, potentially pounce on us. So they split up. They kind of 194 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:09.679 they're going to flank the alders. Jack made it clearer to Eric and don't 195 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.720 shoot me out of fear. They got it worked out, so Eric was 196 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:18.000 off to his left and he goes basically almost straight in the direction from where 197 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.840 Eric had saw this thing. Jack went straight and Eric kind of did a 198 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:26.080 flanking off to the left just to get two sets eyes of different vantage points. 199 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.320 But as Jack is getting up closer to these alders, they hear crashing 200 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.080 way off, way way off to the right. So they were like, 201 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.679 oh, They look at each other in recognition. Whatever it was is now 202 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:41.840 gone. So they kind of laugh and chuckle. Jack is giving Eric a 203 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:45.759 hard time about, oh they're bigfoot. Oh yeah, it ran off, 204 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:48.080 it smelled you and you know this guy stuff. But he was mocking Eric, 205 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.039 you know. So they get back on their trail. They start back 206 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.120 in that direction where they were looking at the caribou. Now as they're coming 207 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:58.480 down because it's sloping down in this area from where they were up on the 208 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.320 low knoll. It kind of slopes down into the valley and then it slopes 209 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:05.080 back up to these other rolling hills in the area. And as they're coming 210 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.679 down to almost where it levels out way off to their left, they hear 211 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:16.600 this god awful grunt noise. It appeared to be coming from Alders Way further 212 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.840 down off to where this valley splits off into two places, and they got 213 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.519 this rise in front of them right, so they're looking off at this grunting 214 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:31.159 sound towards where the sound is originating. Jack said there was something off about 215 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.840 the grunt. It wasn't a bear grunt. Someoney mentioned me previously in an 216 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.039 email. It sounded similar to a sea lion grunt. They don't have those 217 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.720 kind of critters out south of the d Nale Highway, for one thing, 218 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:48.360 So it was this guttoral grunt. It got their attention. They were not 219 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.360 necessarily freaked out, but more inquisitive at this point until as they're sitting there, 220 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.080 they kind of squatted down on their knees and Eric is trying to glass 221 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:01.639 in that area. They heard a return grunt from the Alders just back up 222 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.120 behind him, upslope a little ways up to the side of the trail where 223 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:11.360 they had just gone looking to get vanished point flanked us things with no avail. 224 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:13.279 But they heard a grunt coming from that direction. So they heard the 225 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:18.759 one off that had their attention, and they heard a response grunt from over 226 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.759 off to their left at this point, from the direction they're facing. Immediately, 227 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:28.879 Jack said all his self preservation alarms alerts and everything within him went off. 228 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.159 He said, we didn't see anything at that point. I just knew 229 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:39.000 there was something not good. Bears, for one, don't communicate like that. 230 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:43.320 Nelse in the area. So he asked Eric again, are you sure 231 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:46.960 of what you saw? What did you see through that spotting scope? Eric 232 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.120 said, I saw a face of what looked like a Neanderthal man, big 233 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:58.200 white jaw, grayish complexion, no hair around the face except no hair around 234 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:02.799 the eyes and the or whatever. And it appeared to have just all black, 235 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:04.679 shaggy kind of hair. He goes, are you sure about that? 236 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:11.039 And it goes, I had full facial view in that spotting scope. It 237 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.720 filled the whole scope of what I was looking at. I know what I 238 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:17.639 saw. He started taking them a little more seriously, and he goes, 239 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:19.720 okay, well, we're going to go back to camp. We're going to 240 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.879 kayak further the hell out of this area. So they agree. He says, 241 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:27.120 be on your toes. Put the spotting scope away because you need both 242 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:32.600 hands, because this kid was going along with the spotting scope and the rifle 243 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:37.519 slung, so he would stop and use the spotting scope and not necessarily be 244 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.879 ready for instantaneous immediate danger threat. He would have to drop the scope, 245 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.120 you know, wield the rifle and all that. So he gets them to 246 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.279 put it away. Got someone point with this gun, and he lets him 247 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.480 take the lead. As they're going back up their trail, they got to 248 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:56.039 pass right by the spot where they heard the grunt. No other sounds have 249 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.320 been made since they heard the grunting that got their attention. Then they heard 250 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:03.639 the return grunt, had their conversation, and they're going back out of there. 251 00:17:03.319 --> 00:17:07.279 So they're looking around. They hear four wheelers way off in the distance, 252 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.519 and they're like, okay, there's other people out here, so God 253 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.160 forbid something go wrong. We could pop three shots in the air. Maybe 254 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.039 they can hear us. This was all twenty twenty hindsight he was sharing with 255 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.599 me. They continue on up the trail past this point. Not a sound 256 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:25.119 comes from those bushes or anything. They get back up to the spot where 257 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.880 they were spotting from earlier that morning, and they decide to stop and take 258 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:32.599 a break there because they were a little winded trying to rush and hurry through 259 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.640 tundra like shit. So they get up there and they're taking a break. 260 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:41.960 Eric breaks out the spotting scope and starts glassing back down into those alders. 261 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.680 He bumps Jack again as Jack's trying to pour some coffee. He's like what, 262 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.839 and he goes, it's there. It's looking at us. So Jack 263 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:53.200 grabs his rifle. He's looking scanning in the area that Eric's telling him to 264 00:17:53.240 --> 00:18:00.440 look. Now. Jack is looking at the immediate face of this alder brush 265 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.640 patch right. Eric was actually trying to get his attention for about ten yards 266 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.480 back because it kept poking his head up looking and as it went down, 267 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.480 it would pop up in a different place like it was moving, kind of 268 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:17.240 sighting them and then moving again. So finally Jack got a beat on where 269 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:19.759 it was moving, saw a movement, couldn't make it out, and decided 270 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:25.359 our break is over. We got to go since within him told them we 271 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:29.720 got to continue moving. This isn't normal. So they immediately grab their shit 272 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:33.119 and they're going down the trail and they're a little more motivated this time, 273 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.279 especially Eric. He was really spooked. Jack was nervous about him having a 274 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:41.599 gun just because of how he was swinging it around as they're going down the 275 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.480 trail. They were in the open at this point, so it was kind 276 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:47.400 of one of those just calm down kind of moments. As they get down 277 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:51.799 from the rise back towards the flat plateau that goes over towards where they had 278 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:56.319 moored their kayaks and their little spike camp, they're packing up their camp. 279 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:00.880 Jack is having small conversation with them about are you sure you saw what you 280 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:04.960 saw? Because time had passed, things had calmed down, so some doubt 281 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.720 was kicking up with Jack like what did you really see? Are you sure 282 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.279 you saw bigfoot? Kid? Eric's like, yeah, I know what I 283 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:12.920 saw, man, I don't care if you believe me. I know what 284 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:17.440 I saw. So when he said that, Jack took him very serious, 285 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:21.559 and they were discussing what they should do. Should we continue on or should 286 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:25.079 we just kill this trip and try again, you know, next weekend or 287 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.880 something. They had a little bit of time for the season. Jack was 288 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:30.119 like, well, we're here, let's see if we'll go down a little 289 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.279 ways and see if we can find the caribou or something. You know, 290 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.200 at least we're a day in. Let's check it out. We left whatever 291 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.160 back over there, nothing followed us, you know, let's just go on 292 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.359 about it. So they go down a little ways and they get down to 293 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:48.799 Tyne Creek. But when they're there, this is a little scrub brush. 294 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.759 All theres willows and stuff. There's no really big trees. You're not going 295 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.279 to find force like this, you know, it's just not in that area 296 00:19:56.359 --> 00:20:00.960 anyway. It's a lot of marshy, you know, tundra, good berry 297 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:06.319 picking. So they make another spike camp. That night, they were sitting 298 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:11.680 there discussing over their dinner what they would do if whatever these things are came 299 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:14.440 in on them. And of course, you know, guy Bravado stuffed our 300 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.079 world, shoot them, will shoot him, all that kind of talk, 301 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.559 and Jack laughed it off because Eric was young and a little over zealous. 302 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:26.119 However, he knew that something wasn't right with the situation, because as it 303 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:30.079 was getting dark, and they had their spike cants set up. They were 304 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.960 hearing weird noises way off in the distance, but they were hearing these god 305 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:37.960 awful types of the end of a scream. It seemed like, he said, 306 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.960 they were only getting part or the last portion of a very loud scream 307 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:47.319 the way it was echoing through the small valley. They decide, well, 308 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:52.440 maybe in the morning we'll just go back, because things were progressively getting creepier. 309 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:57.759 Because once they got their kayaks were going down to Tyle Creek, it 310 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:02.799 was quiet a good portion of the time going through there. They heard no 311 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.720 other four wheelers or anything of that nature. They didn't hear any of the 312 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:10.599 birds that are typically around. It was just a kind of an ominous, 313 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.839 creepy type thing. As they were coming into where they set up to second 314 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:18.880 State camp. So they decide, well, it'll be light, you know, 315 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:22.400 at whatever time in the morning, let's just plan on going. You 316 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.759 know, we'll call it a trip. There's something off here, let's just 317 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.640 go. So they agreed. Well, the next morning, after a night 318 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.960 of being woken up periodically by these god awful screams that sounded like they were 319 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.880 getting closer but at a safe distance, just closer from what they were before. 320 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.440 Jack said he didn't sleep well. He kept he was tossing and turning, 321 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.920 just listening to every sound there was out there. Now. When he 322 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:51.640 got up that morning, he was up before Eric because Eric was a snorer, 323 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.680 I guess, And he just sat there heating up coffee, listening to 324 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.680 his buddy snore, and kind of contemplating. You know. The day they 325 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:03.000 got it ahead of them, it wasn't light out yet. As it started 326 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:06.480 getting light out, he got Eric up and moving. They had all their 327 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:08.480 stuff just about packed. They had it all loaded up. However, they 328 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:12.720 had it situated in their kayaks. They hear that god awful scream again. 329 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.160 This time the scream is coming from the direction they have to go. They 330 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.039 have to go back up Town Creek, up to the McCleary, and then 331 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:26.759 the McCleary back up to the boat launch right. That instantly made Jack nervous. 332 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:30.160 When they got in their kayaks to start going, he told Eric, 333 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.000 I'm gonna let you go in front of me, because I don't want you 334 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:37.319 getting nervous behind me and accidentally shooting me if something comes up to the creek. 335 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:41.279 I'm gonna let you go first, because you're a little more high strung. 336 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.920 I don't want you accidentally shooting me in the back. Eric kind of 337 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.240 laughed it off and was like whatever, but he agreed. So he led 338 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.440 the way, and you know, they got a paddle. They're going up 339 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:55.599 a creek. They're doing their thing. Jack has his rifle kind of barreled 340 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:59.440 down towards his feet, laying on his lap while he's doing his kayak thing. 341 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:03.519 Eric done the same. As they come around this little curve, they 342 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.079 see a dark thing jump away from the river bank off on their left hand 343 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:08.960 side. They couldn't make it out. It was just all of a sudden, 344 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:14.279 something dark just flopped and they heard a bump and they heard grass movement. 345 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.440 So like, what the hell that must have been what we heard? 346 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:19.799 You know, maybe it's a sick bear. He just said, keep paddling, 347 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.799 Eric, you just keep paddling, dude, Just go, just keep 348 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:26.680 going. I'm gonna keep an eye. I'm right behind you. As they 349 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:32.640 come to the area where they saw this thing jump, dark motion, just 350 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:36.559 jump into the grass. We're out of sight. They hear this chatter. 351 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:42.039 He said, it sounded like someone imitating an old kunk fu movie. But 352 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:48.160 it was a little different, those deeper toned, shorter type of speech. 353 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:51.559 He said it was really odd because at this point they were splashing with their 354 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:53.839 oars. They were really digging in. He said he could hear it over 355 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.880 that and was scared to look off to his left hand side because they heard 356 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:03.839 movement in the now as they were going along. At one point, Eric 357 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:08.079 gets real nervous and just stops paddling, drops or in his lap, picks 358 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:14.359 up his rifle and points off to the left and fires around boom. Jack 359 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:15.920 said it startled the shit out of him because he did it so fast, 360 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:21.759 just drops boom, fired a shot. So Jack immediately starts chesting, what 361 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:23.079 the hell are you doing, man, what are you shooting at? There's 362 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.119 nothing over there? He goes, No, No, there's something in the 363 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:29.039 grass. It keeps looking, it keeps looking out the grass, don't you 364 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.079 see it? And Jack's like, I didn't notice that. And Eric's explained 365 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:34.279 to him, as we're going along, I see something dark peeking out of 366 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.119 the grass at me every so often, like it's stand up with us. 367 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.960 And Jack had heard the movement in the grass, but it didn't seem like 368 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:48.240 it was that close. So they're freaking each other out by going holy shit, 369 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:51.119 Holy shit, what are we gonna do. Jack's like, well, 370 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.759 you know, let's just keep paddling because we just need to go. You 371 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:57.359 shot a shot, there's no other sounds. Let's go. They keep paddling 372 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.359 and paddling. They get back up to where it meets up with the McCleary 373 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:04.559 River, and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right 374 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:12.039 back after these messages. Now, as they come around the bend, they 375 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:17.000 see what their spike camp was. They decided to take a break there because 376 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:21.119 it's a nice open area. They'd familiarize themselves with the area and all the 377 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:25.440 little bumps and stumps. So they took their break there because they were wiped 378 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:29.200 out just paddling hard. You know, they had gone miles at this time. 379 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.960 As they're taking a break, Eric laid out his backpack and was kind 380 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:34.039 of laid back on it, saying, hey, I need to catch a 381 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.480 quick nap, but I didn't sleep too good, and Jack was thinking, 382 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.640 well, I didn't sleep at all, basically, so whatever, go ahead 383 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:42.880 and get you some rest. As he's taking himself a cat nap, Jack 384 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:48.079 is drinking some coffee he hears movement in the grass, but the movement he 385 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.519 hears in the grass is behind him, up the trail where they came from 386 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:56.799 the day before. So he's looking the grass doesn't look that tall from a 387 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.440 distance. It looks like prairie grass maybe to your knee, but in actuality 388 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.359 it is up to your waist or taller. He's kind of checking out the 389 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.640 movements in the grass and you know, the wind blowing the little breezes, 390 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.640 and as he's looking along, he sees a dark spot in the grass and 391 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.519 he was like, well, that seems different. That seems like a different 392 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.759 it's darker, it doesn't match everything else around here. So he's keeping an 393 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:23.079 eye on that dark spot. Well, as he was getting up to get 394 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:27.519 a better vantage point, he had accidentally kicked Eric's foot and Eric kind of 395 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:30.400 woke up as Jack came to get a better vantage point to look through his 396 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:36.200 scope. That immediately sparked Eric to jump up and start like, hey, 397 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.039 where is it at? Is it creeping on us? And moderately freaking out. 398 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.440 Jack had to say, calm him down, I'm just looking over at 399 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.079 a dark spot in the grass. And as he's trying to explain where the 400 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.799 dark spot is it wasn't there anymore. So immediately Jack's like, it's time 401 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.079 for us to go anyway. You got yourself a cat nap. Your adrenaline's 402 00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.480 got you going. Let's continue paddling. So they jump in their kayaks. 403 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:02.279 They start paddling up to McCleary. Off on the right hand side. Is 404 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.720 the direction of that pat they took, heard the grunts and got out of 405 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:08.240 there. They're going along. They're just getting into this getting back onto the 406 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:14.519 river type thing. They just got a pace going. They hear thrashing off 407 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.759 to their right hand side. At this point, Jackson the lead, Eric's 408 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:21.920 behind him. Just how it worked out. They were getting out of there 409 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.799 right. Jack is deafened by a couple of gunshots, one routter or the 410 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:32.240 other. Boom boom. Is this he got this ringing going on? Because 411 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:37.039 Eric was just off behind him on his right hand side, shooting away from 412 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:38.920 them. He wasn't in danger. Eric wasn't like, you know, muzzling 413 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.720 him or anything like that. But he pops off two shots and immediately it 414 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.440 gets Jack's attention. Jack turns them, what the hell he goes, it's 415 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:49.359 it's following us. It's following us, so Eric is freaking out. Jack 416 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:55.519 hasn't really seen what he has. Eric has seen this thing trying to look 417 00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.880 at him through the grass or whatever. So Eric's on a different level than 418 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.559 Jack is. At this point. Jack's trying to get him to calm down. 419 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:06.920 So they continued paddling harder than ever. Jack asked, did you shoot 420 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:08.759 it? He goes, no, I didn't shoot it. I shot in 421 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.519 its direction. So they get about a mile further up the river, and 422 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:18.519 they've calmed down at this point because there's no further action going on. They 423 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.079 get up beside each other. It was in a shallower spot, so Jack 424 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.319 dug into the gravel to keep them from pushing back and was just kind of 425 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.000 sitting there taking a rest as he's holding the oar. He's got Eric on 426 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.799 his right hand side. He's looking at Eric, talking to Eric, and 427 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:40.920 he sees a figure he guesstimates about twenty feet back from the riverbank stand up 428 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.880 full on view from just above the knees up to the top of his head. 429 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:51.680 A hairy man stands up he estimates almost twelve foot tall. He said 430 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:56.799 this thing was Chewbacca looking skinny, but instead of the orange kind of cinnamon 431 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.920 color hair. It was a dark hair chro magnum, looking in the face, 432 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:07.000 big jaw, and he said what really stood out was the hair was 433 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.519 matted on the back of its head, kind of like not necessarily dreadlocks, 434 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.960 but like just matted. It kind of had this weird look to it. 435 00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:18.119 As he was talking to Eric noticed it, he gets stuck. He's no 436 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.519 longer holding his ore. He's basically in shock, you know, and so 437 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.880 catches himself. He's drifting away from where he dug his orange, so he 438 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:27.480 grabs it, gets older and starts saying, paddle, paddle, paddle. 439 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.759 Eric takes off, just digging in, digging in. Jack's kind of thinking, 440 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:34.680 should I shoot around that way because this thingem's just standing there At this 441 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:40.359 point, they just start digging in, start paddling. They felt confident enough 442 00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:44.599 that they had enough distance between where they've seen it and it making a move 443 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.480 on him that they could get some shots on. So they wanted to progress 444 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.799 and get the hell out of there. They paddled like hell, he said. 445 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.680 He looked back a couple different times, saw nothing, because once they 446 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:59.279 initially got away from that area, it basically disappeared into the grass again. 447 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.559 Whether it was crawl around to whatever, He had no idea. They get 448 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.880 back to the landing hours later. I've condensed because traveling by river that remote, 449 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.440 it's not as simple as you know, a couple of paddles in your 450 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.039 back where you were. It was a journey. So they get there. 451 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.680 They're beat to shit. They're tired, basically exhausted from paddling. Their arms 452 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.359 were stiff and sore. They'd been at it for hours. They get to 453 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.960 the landing and there are some other people there getting ready to end the day, 454 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.279 so to speak. Both there, Jack and Eric's cell phones were dead, 455 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:30.720 and they asked the people there, can we use your phone to call 456 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.480 our friend. The people were nice, they allowed them to call a friend, 457 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.400 but their friend was going to make it out to the next day, 458 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.720 so they had to camp out right there at the landing there by the bridge, 459 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:47.480 basically reminisce over what had happened. Nothing happened further from that point. 460 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.480 That would be some real creepy stuff. Essentially, it sounds like they were 461 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.039 being stocked over the course of a couple of days. He no longer hunts 462 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:59.400 that area. He won't go anywhere near the Naley Highway, or south of 463 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.000 it, and Eric no longer hunt together anymore. That was the last time 464 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.039 they really even hung out, which is unfortunate. A lot of these instances 465 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.519 people that don't talk to each other anymore. It should bring people closer. 466 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.799 You woul Dank getting ready to float this to sit in a river. A 467 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:17.559 couple of encounters that happened over that way very recently. Gonna go check those 468 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:22.559 out. What I wanted to share with you today happened to a cyclist approximately 469 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.960 fifteen years ago. There's this bicycle group that likes to pedal across the state. 470 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.200 So they'll start down in Homer, I think it is something like that 471 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.839 and then bike all the way up pass Fairbanks on the road system up here. 472 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:37.440 I don't know if they still do it. Used to see some of 473 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.960 the riders every once in a while on the side of the road. A 474 00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.759 commitment to cycling, that's for sure. It's a long drive, let alone 475 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.839 pedaling a bike. Chad, he doesn't live in Alaska. He would only 476 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:53.079 come up for this bicycle excursion. A lot of these guys will tow a 477 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.680 little pull behind thing, kind of like you would for your kids, but 478 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.160 it had their camping gear and stuff. He had been doing it for a 479 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.480 number of years before this incident, and he was north of Trappers Creek. 480 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.480 He was in a group of three cyclists. The other two he was with 481 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.440 continued on. He decided he saw a little spot he was going to get 482 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.839 off the road, take a break and get some sleep. He had just 483 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:20.440 been run ragged. So as he's ungearing and getting all his stuff out, 484 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.359 he picks a spot off the side of the road with the small clearing probably 485 00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:28.359 similar to what I'm sitting in right now. He had a hammock tent. 486 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.839 As he's stringing up the hammock tent, he hears movement off to the side, 487 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.440 and as he hears this movement kind of semicircle around him, he gets 488 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:42.279 real paranoid, not so fresh feeling, you know, not so joyous and 489 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:46.759 peaceful. Well, as he's sensing this movement, hearing it for the life 490 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.720 of him, he's trying to figure out, is that one of these guys 491 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.799 come back just to mess with me, or you know, something along those 492 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:58.160 lines. Well, it wasn't. He had these small ratchet straps he was 493 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.720 using to wrap around trees to hang his lie hammick tent from. He was 494 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:06.200 adjusting one of them, and he was looking past the tree because something caught 495 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.559 his eye. Now, as he's at the tree looking at this thing that 496 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.799 caught his eye, he hears a branch snap behind him. As he turns 497 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:16.319 around, half expecting another cyclist that he had been talking to on the ride 498 00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:21.920 to be standing there. There was no one there, So immediately he's on 499 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.240 edge. He has no firearm, he has some bear spray, so he 500 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.359 goes all the way back up to the road. He said approximately seventy five 501 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.960 yards off the road, so he didn't hear as much of the road noise. 502 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:35.799 So as he gets back over to his little container he was dragging along 503 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.519 behind his bike to get his bear spray out. He turns around from grabbing 504 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.960 it and a couple other little odds and ends, and he's walking back the 505 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.680 same trail. As he comes up, he notices one half of his hammock 506 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:53.279 tent the ratchet strap was torn, like ripped, not just undone, it 507 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:58.200 was tattered, ripped. And those things are nylon. You know that takes 508 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.160 a lot of brute force just to rip that shit off of there. You 509 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.240 need a lot of strength to do that. I mean, go get a 510 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.320 ratget strap and just yank on that, see where you get. So he's 511 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:10.880 trying to figure out what the hell and it's not adding up. There was 512 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.400 movement, there's sound. He noticed movement going on. He wasn't putting it 513 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.360 all together rightfully, so he was kind of confused, like, what the 514 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.719 hell is going on here? What's really happening? As he's sigzagging through the 515 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:28.000 trees around trying to see if he sees any sign of anyone who may have 516 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.960 been messing with this shit, maybe someone cut it, you know, something 517 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.079 along those lines. As he makes a complete circle around this clearing area, 518 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.760 as he comes back around to where half his hammock is hanging, he gets 519 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:43.159 an overwhelming sense of dread, like fear he's never had. He's trying to 520 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.760 figure out why am I so scared? You know, he's done this trip 521 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.280 many times. He's camped in more remote places than off the side of the 522 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.000 road, you know, So he's trying to trying to figure out why am 523 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:57.480 I so scared? As he's deciding what he's going to do, there's more 524 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.280 movement that catches his eye, so he pays more and he's looking through the 525 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.559 break in the trees and watching this movement, and he said, at first 526 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.679 he thought it was a guy in a gilly suit. He came across someone'st 527 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.840 hunting area and they didn't like it too much, so they were going to 528 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:14.199 run him off. So he yells out, hey, hey, over here, 529 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.000 did you tear my shit half? Accusing this person of destroying his stuff? 530 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.519 You know who else is around, you know. So after he yells 531 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.920 a couple of times, there was no response. Everything just went dead quiet. 532 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.199 He said he didn't even hear the bugs, which that's a nerving shit, 533 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:30.280 trust me. He don't want to be out in the middle of nowhere 534 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.760 and it goes dead quiet for a multitude of reasons, Bear Harry Maan whatever. 535 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.480 It's not a good environment. So as he's contemplating what he's going to 536 00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:42.360 do, he's gathering a shit back up. He's just going to pedal on, 537 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.880 is what he decided. He has his bear spray on his hip. 538 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.960 He's gathering up his stuff. He's getting the last bits of it. He 539 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.280 starts hiking it back out. He had a couple like one more trip to 540 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.519 grab the rest of it. But as he was hiking out to load his 541 00:35:55.519 --> 00:36:01.960 shit up, he gets to his little buggy. He commences to fiddle with 542 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.159 things in there and readjust some things. Once he got out of the trees, 543 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.880 he didn't have that overwhelming sense of fear. However, he did have 544 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:15.559 an overwhelming sense of being watched. So when he turns back around to go 545 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.079 get the last of his stuff, he noticed his movement off in the trees, 546 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.440 just cut behind some trees, just out of you, just the movement. 547 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:27.039 He couldn't make anything out. He's sitting there, perplexed on what to 548 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:29.679 do because it's in the same direction he has to go to get the rest 549 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.840 of his stuff. So he gets off his bare spray, he's holding it 550 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:36.519 in his hand, and he walks in. Now he's dead dog tired. 551 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.280 He's been peddling a bike for miles and miles and miles. He does not 552 00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:44.159 want to be doing this. So as he gets back in there, he 553 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:49.079 notices his stuff is not where it was. He had his hammock tent kind 554 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.079 of coiled up in a ball with the ropes wrapped around it, and he 555 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.840 couldn't find it. He's looking around for it. He finds his little water 556 00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.800 jug and the little day pack thing that he gather those up, and he's 557 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.159 kind of looking around. He hears something off in the distance, and he 558 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.719 looks in that direction. Up in a tree, and now this is not 559 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.840 the first time we've heard of this, but up in a tree, his 560 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:15.039 little bundled pack was up in some branches, way up. He said it 561 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.880 was thirty foot plus where this thing was up in the trees. For the 562 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.159 life of him, he could not figure out how in the hell his shit 563 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:27.920 one got torn and then to be put up in a tree. Who's going 564 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.519 to get it up there? He didn't climb up to get it. He 565 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.039 immediately decides it's go time. I'm not sticking here. This is some crazy 566 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.280 shit. He felt like he was in the twilight zone. Nothing was making 567 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.280 any sense whatsoever. Is making his way out, he keeps hearing this grunt 568 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:44.480 sound. He said it sounded just like a bear grunt. So he turns 569 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.719 around, half expecting to have to spray a bear. His mind's really racing 570 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.360 because he's got this thing, this figure in the distance. His shit's missing 571 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.960 up in a tree, and now this bear grunt. So it's a whole 572 00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.679 multitude of just different shit going on in his head. There's the tree line, 573 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.079 and as soon as he clears the tree line. Just to his right 574 00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.920 hand side, a tree gets knocked down in front of him, kind of 575 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.119 at an angle. If he had kept walking instead of stopping, the tree 576 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.960 may have actually hit him. It was a light birch crack crack. I 577 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:16.320 mean he heard it snap, he heard it break. It was about eight 578 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.639 inch diameter. And he looks over in the direction and he sees this thing 579 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.760 standing there just looking at him, And as soon as they make eye contact, 580 00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.880 he said it was really black in the face. It was kind of 581 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.880 silhouetted, so all he could see was a little gleam in the eye, 582 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:37.400 kind of like the light reflecting off the eye. Not in a luminescent type 583 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.960 thing. It just eyeshine, not in the sense of a flashlight shine, 584 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.280 but just life in the eyes. And he yells, hey, what the 585 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.320 dude. This thing just walks in the tree line, but coming in his 586 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:52.119 direction. Now he's only about five ten feet out of the tree line. 587 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.280 And up here on along the sides of the roads, you'll have the road 588 00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:59.039 drop off into a ditch typically, and then it'll kind of bank up. 589 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.840 Then the trees start well. In this particular area, it was flat across. 590 00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.599 He's literally on the same flat ground. This thing is walking along and 591 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.119 as soon as it gets parallel with him in the tree line, it screams 592 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.960 at him, and he's stuck. He's holding this bear spray, stuck. 593 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.400 He doesn't know what the hell to do because none of this is making sense 594 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.320 to him. As he turns and he's pointing the bear spray at this, 595 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.320 saying, it just walks backwards, looking right at him, but smoothly walks 596 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:30.880 backwards and gets in a little ways and it steps out of you. Now 597 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:35.239 he's really stuck. He doesn't know what to do with this. As a 598 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.519 matter of fact, when he was sharing it with me, he was just 599 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:38.800 questioning me, why did they do that? Why this? And I was 600 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.480 like, dude, you know, hey, your guests as good as mine. 601 00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.039 But for whatever reason, as it stepped out of you, the scream 602 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.280 was still ringing in his ears. Before he knew it, he was on 603 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.159 his bike peddling. He must have been about two three miles from that particular 604 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:58.719 spot when he came across another cyclist that was packing up his camping shit. 605 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.400 Because he heard the scream from a couple miles away. This dude, another 606 00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:07.440 bicyclist, heard that scream, gathered up his shit, decided he was going 607 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.400 to pedal on, so as he catches up to the other guy coming up, 608 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:13.000 he stops and says, tells him what happened, And the guy was 609 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.000 like, I heard that scream. I'm packing up, I'm leaving. The 610 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:20.280 other bicyclist had a gun, was carrying it in his hand. He was 611 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.639 like, hey, just put that away. It's back there. It could 612 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.639 have attacked me. It didn't. You know that kind of thing. Guys, 613 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.039 I don't give a shit if it didn't attack you. That sounds humongous. 614 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:31.599 And I don't know what it is. And he tries to explain to 615 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:37.119 him, I saw it whatever whatever, basically describing the sasquatch to him. 616 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.119 The guy kind of chuckles and puts his gun away. This guy just heard 617 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:45.079 the same scream enough to cause him to pack up, to freaking leave. 618 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:47.840 But he's gonna mock the guy who came from that traction and told him what 619 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.880 it was. I don't get that. He continued. He pedaled on. 620 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.480 No further instance or anything like that. But this poor guy was just out 621 00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:00.159 pedaling, pedaling his bike, doing something he's done a million times. Be 622 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.400 a running theme with that, there's a lot of people who have been out 623 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.400 here for many, many, many years, never had a single problem, 624 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.960 not a single instance of anything, to all of a sudden have that shit 625 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:15.159 shattered in a heartbeat. It's unfortunate. There's no definites none. I wrack 626 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:20.119 my brain every day on something definitive, something concrete, but it varies so 627 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.199 much. There's nothing really tangible yet. I'll be getting back to you guys 628 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.679 soon, getting ready to take off into the wild. So until the next 629 00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:37.079 one. They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. 630 00:41:38.800 --> 00:42:07.159 I don't want to be. We're all ouppen chid. There's child that 631 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:14.199 chid everything. Can you ride back, cry back for joy, for me 632 00:42:15.159 --> 00:43:31.679 enjoy staying right you come it right aways, sat doss stasssssssss.