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minutes five minutes away from Dean Blandino,

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NFL on Fox Rules Analysts to discuss
an experts take on what the hell happened

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at the end of Cowboys lines and
other rules like the rule Danny hates.

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I want to talk about this college
football playoff Yesterday final four. I first

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of all, hate the college football
four team playoff. I think it should

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be twelve. And just because the
last two years have been great close games,

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does not mean the ten year span
of this has been good. It

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hasn't a lot of blowouts and things
like that. We're getting a twelve team

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playoff next year. That's good.
These teams have taken a month off of

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playing games like this is not actively
All this downtime and the bowl games,

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the other bowl games, they don't
matter. Everyone knows they don't matter.

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Texas State, maybe Texas State gets
their first ball game, it's big for

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them. Well, like I said, nobody watches them other than the smaller

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market teams. Yeah, that's it's
Hey, we're on big TV. Let's

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watch the Florida State got snubbed.
They were undefeated and a one loss Alabama

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team got put in as the four
seed. Florida State showed up for their

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bowl game against Georgia and said,
now we're not gonna play anybody. Georgia

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beat him sixty three to three.
None of Florida State, hardly Florida State's

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good players play now they got snub
Part of the reason they got snubbed is

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because their quarterback towards ACL late in
the year. So basically, your games

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don't matter if your quarterback gets hurt
is what the committee said. Alabama Michigan

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was great, went to overtime,
Michigan got the win, Alabama out.

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It's a three year stretch without a
championship appearance right now. It's is that

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the first time in Nick Saban's seventeen
year tenure they've done three straight years without

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winning a national championship. Now,
the story going into this was Jim Harball

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He's got an agent to trying to
get an NFL job. Everyone thinks he's

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leaving for the NFL. But also
there was a big film scandal for all

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the years of Nick Saban probably paying
players when he shouldn't have. Probably maybe

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not, but you know, probably
there's only one reason he was so outspoken

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against the NIL and paying college players, because you were doing it already and

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you had an advantage. Probably there's
maybe I'm trying to slander the guy.

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I'm just like, it's possible.
Allegedly Jim Harbaugh gets it a cut at

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a film, a sign stealing scandal, and it's like college football is just

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about new ways to cheat that's kind
of a big takeaway. Florida State,

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I actually think could have beat Michigan
Alabama. Now, if you're someone who

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doesn't pay close attention and you go, Georgia just wiped out Florida State sixty

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three to three years old state with
a healthy quarterback. I think with their

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backup, their defense is that good, they at least deserved a chance in

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my opinion. But whatever happened,
it was a good game. The night

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game Washington and Texas. Everyone was
excited for this because both of these defenses

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aren't very good and it was going
to be a shootout. You have Michael

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Pennix or a summer pronouncing his last
name penis. No one's pronouncing it like

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that. Michael Pennix Junior, who's
about thirty nine years old, went out

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there and carved up Texas. Okay, he's twenty, but he's like Brandon

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Whedon. If Brendan Whedon were good, you know, Okay, I'm like

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Howard Stern if I were good,
We're good. Yeah. So it's thirty

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four to twenty one. Washington is
leading, and by the way, Washington's

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played a near perfect game. Texas
was fumbling the ball, letting guys letting

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guys in cast return kicks. It
was really shady situation for Texas, but

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they stayed in it. Thirty four
to twenty one. They got the lead.

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Washington gives them the ball to back. Texas scores thirty four to twenty

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eight. So Washington then gets the
ball and they're going downfield and they have

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a chance to run the clock out, but they're running back. Dylan Johnson

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gets hurt and he's writhing in pain
on the field, and you know the

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old rule where the clock stops if
you get hurt. The one thing Washington

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could not have was the clock stop. Texas was out of timeouts and on

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it was a second or third down
play and he was third down. They're

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running backs on the field that he
can't get off the field on his own

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power. So the clock stops and
Texas gets the ball back with the chance

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to go do some damage and take
it the length of the field with no

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timeouts, with like twenty five seconds, and they got close. They hit

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a bomb ski okay, so Texas
moves down. The game ended with Texas

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inside the fifteen yard line with three
shots to the end zone, and they

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didn't get it. Washington wins.
But it was like, when is this

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game gonna end? First of all, but it was great. That's what's

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great about college football, because look, I had to go to bed,

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and I like, I told you, I'm gonna go to bed at nine

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o'clock and I'm gonna toss and turn
until eleven. And I'll be damned if

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that's not exactly what happened. And
I did look at my phone and check,

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and I think it was what did
you say, thirty four to twenty

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thirty four to twenty eight. No, but before that, before it was

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thirty four to twenty one one.
Yeah, I'm like, okay, But

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in my mind, I'm like,
this is college football, dude. It's

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so easy to come back in college
football, especially if you're good, because

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that little first stopping the clock on
every first down. Man, you can

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make those games last four and a
half hours because of that wonderful rule.

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When I was watching it too,
I was going, man, Washington would

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have just abandoned the run completely and
just thrown it every play. They would

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have put fifty points in the Longhorns. Would you trade that in the NFL

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to get rid of the two minute
warning? Yes, that stop the clock

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on every first down. Oh no, no, I want the game.

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I want the two minute warning.
I do like that, it'll take two

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minute warning. And I don't like
the clock stopping. You don't like this

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clock stopping on first downs when it's
late in the game. No, I

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don't know, boy, that just
generates so much excitement. I mean,

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I don't know it helps that aspect
of it. But like these games can't

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of go, but it keeps teams
in it. Maybe when they shouldn't be

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in the long, they've got to
be short. Yeah, that's true.

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Maybe twenty minute halftime should be three
out. Maybe it's cool to have the

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distinction between the two Washington versus Michigan
in the National Championship game. That should

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be fun. I'm pulling for Washington
big time. I know we got a

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lot of Texas fans listening today,
so you know, whether you like Texas

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or not, let's you know,
all the thought for those guys. It's

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not a sexy matchup. Give me
the Huskies all day. Alabama Texas would

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have been that would have broke the
Internet and have also been a network a

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network cream dream for sure. Yeah, speaking of network cream dreams, joining

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us now on the freak hotline.
It's NFL on Fox Rules Analyst and other.

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I mean, he's done so much
you can't just put a blanket statement

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on this guy. This guy has
got many titles, but a NFL on

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Fox Rules Analyst Dean Blandino, Hello
Dean, how are you? Hey?

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Guys, And that's the best introduction
I've ever had a network Cream Dream's amazing.

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That's how you got hired, right. I think they were like,

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hey, we know, like we
got Pereira and he's he's killing and also

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hope he gets well soon. But
let's let's really raise the sex appeal here.

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Yeah, exactly, exactly, And
that was a great I watched the

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end of the game, Kap,
and your description was more exciting than the

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actual end of the beginning. Oh, thank you. Well that's the power

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of radio. But and for you, it was ten o'clock, not a

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midnight for us who have to wake
up at four am. Oh I never

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would have stayed out if I was
on Central Time, No way, I'm

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asleep. Yeah, it was kind
of a bad start. Time East Coast

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would have been one am. Finish. Well, thanks for getting up.

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It's tough for us to get West
Coast guests on the show, because you

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know our show ends in forty five
minutes where it's eight am where you are,

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so thank you for getting up and
and responding to me. This happens

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Saturday night. Obviously, dive in. We tried to lay it out as

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basic as possible a couple hours ago. Did the refs did? Did almost?

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Don't be mean to Brad Allen,
but did the ref just get confused

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and mess up? Like? What
is your I guess description of what happened?

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I think there's a couple of things. But before the game, you

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know, the officials will go to
each locker room, two officials. Ninety

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minutes before the game, we'll go
to each locker room, see the head

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coach, look if they have any
questions. Do you have any trick plays,

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any gadgets that we need to know
about? And so you know,

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the lines told Brett the two officials
that we're going to have seventy committed report

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from time to time we might have
a tackle eligible play, just so the

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officials are aware of what's happening.
And I think with that situation, I

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think there was a couple of things. Sixty eight is on the end of

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the line he's the one obviously that
catches the pat he has to report.

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The lines aren't going to run that
play without sixty eight reporting. It's the

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whole play depends on that. But
I think what they did is they kind

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of got a little bit cute where
they had not just not just Decker,

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but Tonay Sewell and then Skipper come
on to the field and then go to

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the referee. So there were offensive
linemen in front of Brett Allen and then

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seventies coming onto the field and almost
like kind of the skis who who was

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really reporting? And I think Brad
Allen just assumed that it was seventy because

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he had done it during the game
earlier, and so Brad went too fast,

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assumed that that seventy was reporting.
The Lions kind of try to disguise

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it, and it just created this
confusion, and Brad Allen announced seventy,

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told the defense seventy was eligible,
and then obviously when once sixty eight catches

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a pass and to the officials he
hasn't reported, that becomes a foul,

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and now where you know, And
that's basically what happened. So basically,

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in the Lions' efforts to deceive the
Dallas defense. They ended up deceiving the

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officiating crew, and I think Dan
Campbell and his press conference yesterday admitted as

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much. Yeah, and with no
timeouts left, they don't they can't you

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do anything to reset that. And
I believe the eligibility number had been announced

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over the PA system. So at
that point it's kind of like, well,

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what are you going to do?
You know, I think that's exactly

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right now. I'm not saying that
there isn't there isn't some responsibility on the

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official side, right, don't you
can't go too fast. Look, it's

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a two point try. It's basically
for the game. The clock isn't running.

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Don't assume anything. Just make sure. Okay, who's eligible? Sixty

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eight are you reporting? It's seventy
reporting. I think just kind of went

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into more of like an auto auto
drive mode. Seventy had reported earlier.

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Okay, here he comes, and
the Lions kind of you know, I

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get it. They you know,
they they're trying to trick play. That's

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the whole point. They want to
trick the defense, but unfortunately they trick

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the referee. Okay, so does
it? Can you want me through the

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operation of By the way, this
is NFL on Fox, Rules analyst Dean

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Blandino joining us. Now, nice
reset, Katie, Yeah, Joe,

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just trying to hit all the benchmarks, you know, the can you walk

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me through the operation of this so
or maybe I have a foggy memory here?

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Is it common when a player reports
that you might hear the referee on

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the crowd mic, you know,
or on his microphone say, and if

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he says that number seventy had reported
that, maybe everyone would have known,

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and maybe the Lions could have been
like, no, that's not what happened.

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Or is that just heat of the
moment two point conversion for a win,

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crowd noise like what happens there?
No, it is. So.

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The the protocol is the player.
The first time the player comes in and

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he's gonna he's gonna play a position
that he's not eligible to play. So

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sixty eight comes into the game,
says I'm gonna play, I'm gonna be

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eligible. The referee will make that
announcement, and and and the and bred

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Allen did there there's it didn't.
I don't think it showed up on the

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broadcast, but I have seen some
videos on social media where you could hear

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it yep. The Spanish broadcast at
it. Yeah, and a lot of

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times in the stadium it's hard to
hear obviously, that's you know, he

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got CrowdIn range, you got all
these things. But he did announce it,

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and that is the proper protocol.
And then at that point, you

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know, if the Lions recognized that
but they're out of time out, certainly

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they could they could say, hey, wait a minute, no it's not.

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But now you've kind of now now
it's going to create a delay.

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You might end up getting a delay
of game. There's a lot of factors.

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Once once kind of the the you
know, the seventy had had been

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announced, it was tough to kind
of go back. Okay, so and

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the Lions probably couldn't have even I
mean, if it was announced wherever,

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the Lions are probably just trying to
call the play and no one is even

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thinking, hey they just announced that. The wrong guy reported. I mean,

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is because I don't know, maybe
and maybe as loud as it was,

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maybe that's fine, and that's a
tough spot. I guess the ref

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is in but man, you just
want you know, from from the referee

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perspective, the referee thought seventy we're
going normal, normal mechanics. Seventy is

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the eligible player with the ineligible number, and and you know, maybe the

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lines didn't maybe stick in here the
announcement, or they just kind of,

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like you said, they're getting ready
to run the play and it just got

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by them. And to make it
even more wacky, if seventy had been

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the guy that reported as an eligible
receiver, he was lined up illegally to

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be an eligible receiver. Correct,
exactly right. There's if seventy reports,

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there's there's three fouls on the play, there's there's an illegal formation, there's

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an eligible downfield on sixty eight,
and there's illegal touching on sixty eight.

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It doesn't look from the line's perspective, I get it, because we're not

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seventy is not going to report because
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It doesn't. It doesn't work.
There's seventy reports at sixty eight, doesn't

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I think that in that attempt to
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it was seventy. And now you
know, now we're talking about it.

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Dean Blandino joining us right now on
the downbeat. So let me ask you,

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this is that error egregious enough to
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into the playoffs in your opinion,
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the officials are evaluated on every game
and they're you know, they get a

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report, and that report accumulates throughout
the season, and they grade out well,

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they get postseason assignments, they hope
grade out well. They're sitting at

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home, and so I think that
situation, I think it would in my

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view if I were there. Certainly, Again, I just think the referee

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went too quick and assume something in
a situation where let's just make sure,

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let's get this right. And when
you watch the video Skipper seventy, he

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doesn't even get close to Brad Allen. He's still probably ten yards away and

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Brett Allen is running to the defense. So I don't there's no way Skipper

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reported. He just assumed it.
And so yeah, I do think that

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that has to be taken into account. And you look at that crew,

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Brett Allen's crew, They've they've been
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year. You go back to the
Packers and Chiefs, So yeah, I

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would be you know, I would
be surprised. No, Bred Allen's a

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big referee and everybody you know,
they had they had a tough year.

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But I would be surprised if,
if you know, he he has a

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playoff game just because of everything that's
happened this year. Yeah, I was,

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that was kind of I asked the
question poorly. Was that enough or

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was this more of a cumulative effect
of other incidents that had happened throughout the

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year. You know, an effect
and you look at that if you haven't.

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Unfortunately, and we've seen this with
other referees. If you go back,

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if you remember Phil Luckett was a
referee where there were calls that happened.

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He had a coin toss and then
some other things and no one remembers

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the side judge or no one remembers
the line. Just they remember the referee,

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right, because that's the white hat. That's the person on the microphone

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right. And you know, from
my perspective, I've got this referee that

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has this kind of baggage for lack
of a better term, this year,

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and if I put him in a
playoff game and something happens, that comes

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back on me and the officiating department
and things like that. So those are

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things you have to take into consideration
going into the playoffs. It's a world

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of optics. No, I absolutely
is, especially now, I mean the

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narrative going into that game. At
least locally, there's a big topic about

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Michael Parsons commenting on not getting any
holding calls, which, while we have

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you, is that something the Cowboys
They definitely go and have those conversations for

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those no, no question. And
look, I haven't watched every snap that

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Mike has been on the field,
so and I would imagine he's been held

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this year and it hasn't been called
because he's such a great player. And

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I just think that's such it's just
an anomaly, you know, I don't

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they're not going into the game saying, hey, we're gonna let eleven get

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held. All game officials don't.
They just don't work that way. They're

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going to try to see, you
know, look at the play and if

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there is a hole, to'll call
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There's no question you can't that he's
so good. I can't imagine he hasn't

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been held this year. Yeah,
yeah, do you think that that it's

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almost a byproduct of him being so
exceptional? I kind of equate it to

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like the the Shaquille O'Neill factor,
where he's getting fouled on every play,

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but even on the plays where he's
getting fouled, he's breaking backboards. Is

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it that Michael Parsons is getting held
more often than it's getting called, but

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because he's still getting to the quarterback
and still applying pressure and making tackles and

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getting sacks, that those things are
overlooked just because he's so exceptional that he's

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able to play through a penalty.
It's definitely possible when you think about because

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what the officials were looking for is
restriction, and if he's fighting through that

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restriction and still getting to the quarterback, he made hell. But it doesn't

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jump out right because well, he
there wasn't enough restriction he got there.

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It used to be Gronkls like that. He used to have conversations with him

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and with the Patriots Rob Bronkowski.
He's so big and strong that he would

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get held downfield, but it just
didn't look as bad because he was bigger

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and stronger than the guy trying to
guard him. And that goes back to

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the shack thing. I think that's
possible that Hey didn't look like enough restriction

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because he got through it, and
I think that might be part of it.

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Do you like the rule where the
fumble the ceedee lamb. Let's talk

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about the fumble out of the end
zone There, you know you're trying to

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score and you fumble the ball and
it goes through the side of the end

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zone and the back of the end
zone. The ball goes out of bounds

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on a fumble. Do you like
the rule as it is? Do you

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see that rule getting changed? What's
your kind of thoughts on that? OK,

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the rule as it is? I
do. I think the end zone

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when you think about football, the
closer you get to the end zone,

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if every yard becomes more important,
everything, the goal line is special.

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I think fumbling at the fifty yard
line and it goes out of bounds,

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I get it. You're to keep
the football when you're at the goal line,

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and you risk losing that football and
that goes into the end zone.

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I think there has to be some
penalty there, and I get it.

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The defense hasn't recovered it, so
I understand that. And it's also consistent

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anytime the team that has the ball
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Whether it's a kickoff, a punt, you know, those types of

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things, they're all touchbacks. I
think it's consistent, and I also think

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the en zone is just that much
more important. And I get it.

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Look, you're trying to make a
play, the ball comes loose, and

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so I understand the other side of
it that that is extremely punitive, But

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I do just think the goal line
is different. Can I play Devil's advocate?

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Yeah, okay. It strikes me
as somewhat of a hypocritical rule.

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If let's say that Ceedee Lamb gets
that ball punched out and he's going for

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the end zone and he gets it
punched out at the ten and the ball

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rolls out of bounds at the five, then the ball the Cowboys benefit from

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an extra five yards because of the
fumble. I just don't understand if the

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ball is not recovered in the end
zone and it doesn't go out of and

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it just simply would have gone out
of bounds had it not been the goal

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line, how would it be a
terrible idea that that they just retain the

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ball where the fumble was created.
And you can even say the same thing

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about any forward progress of a fumble
getting knocked out that you don't benefit from

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that. If it goes out of
bounds, the ball is retained where the

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fumble happened. If you just made
that a rule across the board, then

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you wouldn't even have to worry about
this, in my opinion, a kind

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of a ridiculous touchback rule, and
that is that is the rule. If

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it doesn't go out of bounce through
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to the spot of the fumble,
they're not going to benefit. They're not

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going to get the five yards.
If you fumble at the ten and it

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goes out of bounds at the five, you're getting the ball back at the

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ten. So that is the current
rule other than the goal line, and

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I do think, look, you
could change it and just treat them all

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like forward fumble out of bounds and
just bring it back to the spot of

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the humble. What's funny is we
did that last year in the XFL and

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we only had one play all year, and it was in the last game,

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and it was Seattle in Vegas,
and the Vegas player started celebrating at

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the five yard line on a long
pitch and run and the defender knocked it

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out from behind, it went out
through the end zone and we brought it

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back and gave Vegas the offensive ball
back and everybody went crazy. They're like,

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why isn't that a touchback? So
I think I get it. A

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lot of people don't like the rule, but I just do think the end

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zone is special, and I personally
liked the rule, but I could see

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it getting changed. I think there's
enough people that don't like it where it's

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get changed. I think the end
zone is special too. It's sacred for

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taking the ball. Okay, Dean, I have lightning around fifteen seconds because

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we got to stay on time.
We're goe in trouble when you the other

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day they did a ten to three
to one format, ten games in the

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nuon slot, three in the three
to twenty five slot. That's got to

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be hell on you, right,
because you have more games and how do

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you can't watch six games at once? Yeah, we had five games in

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the in the early windows, so
that was. Yeah, it's kind of

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like rapid fire. What's happening here
in the team, and it makes it

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go fast. It's definitely I'd rather
watch five games than one really crappy game.

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But it's you know, and it's
going to be like that this this

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Sunday, we'll have a bunch of
games because all the games are on I

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think there's two on Saturday in the
restaurant Sunday. Yeah, all right,

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Well you're doing a great job,
and uh, we appreciate you, man,

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we do. You're a good dude, Jean, You're a good dude.

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I've been trying to tell I've been
telling the Metroplexist for years. There's

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still some people who still have it
have it out for you, you know,

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not me to know. We're coming
up. We're coming up on January

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what is it, the fifteenth,
whatever the date is. You know we're

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coming up on that day. Oh
no, I'm sure my my social media

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will well, we'll have we'll have
a lot of fun on that day.

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It's not I think we're at the
nine year anniversary, so I'm waiting.

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We're going to do something special for
the ten years, something special. You

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know, if the Packers and Cowboys
win this weekend and it's Packers and Cowboys,

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you know, it just fires.
No part of that. I want

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no part. Oh man, Well, Dan, thank you so much for

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the time. We'll be bothering you. Ff. There's any other bad calls

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next week. Good you're not.
We're not paying you to do a weekly

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Have a good time out there,
stay safe from the big waves out in

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Ventura. Yeah, rock on man, all right, thanks guys, Love

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you dog there he goes. What
a cool dude to do the for us.

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You know you're trying to tell people
he's the sweetest guy, and he

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got it right. I'm sorry you
got it right. That's why his job

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