WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:07.519 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:14.640 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions katz R 3 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:18.960 two, SAG and iHeartRadio Station Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. 4 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:21.679 Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 5 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:26.320 Rivera, He's jaggins awas got our guy, Sammy. What's your last name 6 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:29.839 again? Ska Sebolca. I just put your resumes of the ward night for 7 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:33.479 gusual last day. So, Jay, I was, I was, we 8 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:36.479 have we inched closure to a basketball game here on Saturday. You have one 9 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.119 tomorrow, right, is it? Yeah? When lay tomorrow? You see 10 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:42.840 Sandiego. So I was on the internet of the interweb last night and listen 11 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.799 and then this morning and just kind of on Twitter. You know the stuff 12 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:48.960 that you you you I saw some stuff at Grand Canyon. They beat uh 13 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:52.719 San Diego State, Yeah and uh a rank and yeah. So the first 14 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:55.119 time they've beaten somebody at home. I think it was. Uh, let 15 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.119 me ask you something, how would you have you seen their crowd? It's 16 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:03.280 a crazy I went to a game there. Frankin mcbula, the kid that 17 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.719 played right now, he was playing in st when he was playing at Saint 18 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:12.159 Edwards. He had a game there and back this was ten fifteen, Uh 19 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:19.400 five years no, five years. Ye, he's gone along. They graduated 20 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:23.599 from high school in twenty fourteen. So so you've seen you okay, five 21 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.239 six years ago it was he had a game there. Yeah, and so 22 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.120 we went up for that and even then it was not okay. So this 23 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.319 is what I was gonna go with there. Just this is random because it's 24 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.400 gotten a random Wednesday. And have you seen did you see videos? Oh 25 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:40.680 I've been to multiple game Okay, so goods good? So how I want 26 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.840 to compare and contrast and blah blah blah. So how would you rate uh 27 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:51.640 Arizona student section best? Not like that part of it? Part of it 28 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.200 you if you've been to that arena, the fans are right on top of 29 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.359 the floor. They're not on the on the side, on the side, 30 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.000 on the side, yeah, the right, I mean you're right on the 31 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:06.879 floor. So it's a it is a smaller group because it's a smaller arena, 32 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.960 but they're yeah, they're Arizona fan. Arizona's students don't do what they 33 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.159 do, don't do? Because I saw Kansas State stuff. Did you see 34 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:15.800 Kansas State video last night? Oh? Yeah, I did. I did. 35 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:19.159 That was crazy because the game winner. Yeah. And I'm thinking, 36 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.639 and I've said this for a long time because when I got here late in 37 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:23.560 the late in the eighties, and you've been here a long time to see 38 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:27.400 many games, and I guess at one time they did have the students on 39 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.680 the side. Did they have on the side? Yes? How did that 40 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:31.719 go? Oh? And that that was that was when I was in school, 41 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:35.960 and that was that was what what what the UVA used to do with 42 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:40.919 what the A had is the lower sections, well you remember what it used 43 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:46.400 to be, the blue and then the red. Okay, the lower sections 44 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:51.960 behind the benches were students. No, we're the fans. The other three 45 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:57.199 sections around the floor, so the ends on the other side were bleachers about 46 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:01.199 to the first railing, okay, but ten row, not twenty, no, 47 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:06.120 not probably ten rows concourse, not to the concourse about halfway up the 48 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:12.560 rail right was bleachers. And so that's that's when the arena, the capacity 49 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.240 there was fifteen and change because of that, and that's where I sat as 50 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:20.599 a student and that's when we rushed the floor when they beat U C. 51 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:25.039 L A and seventy eight. It happened really fast because the fans are and 52 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:28.439 they just ran. Well, that's kind of what happened, if sited Grand 53 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.680 Kenny. The only reason I bring it up, and it was brand this 54 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:35.120 is random, of course, is that everyone has the number one basketball team 55 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:38.639 in the country, and I don't think and maybe people will be pissed at 56 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.560 me that the student section represents the number one team in the country. Well, 57 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:44.919 well, and here's the here's the deal. It's sort of a yes, 58 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:47.280 no, I agree, and it's sort of a I was gonna tell 59 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:51.240 you why I think what it's a it's like a chicken and egg thing, 60 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.039 all right. The students want to be closer to the floor, they want 61 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:59.479 to be on the side, right, but they're not doing what they need 62 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.919 to do to get themselves tree on the side. You know again it you 63 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:06.439 know, we used to be around, you know, around the floor of 64 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:10.199 the court. But when they could sell those tickets. Now they're never gonna 65 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:12.520 it's never gonna go the other way. They're never gonna get those seats. 66 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.039 And we'll talk about Sammy because Sammy just said he should. They should do 67 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:16.920 that, but but it's not gonna happen. I know it's not gonna and 68 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.720 but part of it is they don't do enough. There are times when there 69 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.600 aren't enough. The students don't fill up what they have. The topic might 70 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.120 be a good one. We've got to call it higher on the air and 71 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.920 nine and the ball. Hey, I want to sign about the students section 72 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:34.319 for you back, Okay, let's hear it. Yeah, yeah, no, 73 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:36.600 I mean my presents. I'm a lifetime two stone and and stuff, 74 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:44.480 and it's always to me. I think we can have that atmosphere because of 75 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:46.360 the way it's structured, and it'll be interesting. They kind of compare our 76 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:50.160 school compare to other schools and the percentage of total seats that are a lot 77 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:53.839 of the students. When I was a student, U a for different things 78 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.959 under grads and grad school, you had to put in a lot of them. 79 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.040 You try to get a chance to go to a game, right, 80 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.480 the students and more of an elite thing, right, think about who's going 81 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:06.759 and stuff. So I would say elite students and elite citizens of all the 82 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:12.480 city and county suburbs stuff. So that I think is a big flaw where 83 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:17.800 you don't have the active crowds and the home field. Now I hear you. 84 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:24.759 I don't disagree. Yeah, but there's no there's no real solution because 85 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:26.879 you said, tell me what you were going to say. I mean, 86 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.439 it's a solution, but you got to offend a lot of few exactly who 87 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:33.680 have had it for generations. And then if we I mean, if you 88 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:39.040 were to give you know, the kids showing up to the football games a 89 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:42.399 chance to go to at least two games per year, you know what I 90 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.120 mean, it would be and say, hey, this half of this arena 91 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:50.399 is for the Duke game or for you know whoever. We would smash any 92 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:55.560 other school. But when you look at all the other ESPN games, things 93 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:59.160 like that shown and the kids jump in, not sitting down, and you 94 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:01.879 look at ours, just silver haired individuals, it's kind of chilling. And 95 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:04.879 they know to stand up at least and not until the first baskets made for 96 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:09.600 the opponents. But other than that, they're they're tired out after that, 97 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.360 right, you know, you're you hit it on the head at least in 98 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:15.199 your evaluation. Yeah, And I don't know why I brought this subject except 99 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.360 to see what I saw last night I Kansas Stayed and Greg Kenyon because it's 100 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.959 exactly what you said back in the seventies. The bleachers, people jumping on 101 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.519 the it was crazy last night. And you see Cameron right, you see 102 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.759 the students standing on top of the reporter and that's but that's that's made for 103 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:32.920 TV too. It's kind of like what you were saying in the seventies. 104 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:36.319 I mean, the depth of them was not that much, but they're standing 105 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:42.720 up sideways and it's crazy made for TV. But it's a lot of crowd 106 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.399 like Arizona's older on that side, younger on this side. And again and 107 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.079 you know the collar just mentioned the structure. You know, the seats on 108 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:54.920 the ends are far away from sure court, you're behind the basket. There's 109 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:59.639 a gap. They've now stuck two rows of prime seats in between the you 110 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.279 know, the the the seats, the end seats. And you know for 111 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:08.639 school whether they call that area scholarship ro as well. So it's it's different, 112 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:13.920 but nonetheless structured. The way it is, the place can still be 113 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:17.319 sure loud and raucous, and the students can be can have an impact. 114 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:19.959 Yeah, you know, you know, I'll call them out. I look 115 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:24.120 up and I don't see the student section full. They weren't there this last 116 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:30.519 weekend. They haven't been there for the I'm talking full to the top one 117 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.959 game this year. There have been empty seats every single game. So you're 118 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:39.160 gonna say, semi, oh, well, I fully agree that, like 119 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:43.079 you have, Cameron, you have if it sounds when Jay went to school, 120 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:46.480 they were so close and they were there. It's where they felt like 121 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:48.639 they were part of the game. I think a big issue with the way 122 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.680 the student section is set up now is that it goes upwards and if you're 123 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.959 you're twenty rows up, it's a great seat to watch the game, but 124 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.879 you don't feel like you have an impact. You don't feel like, oh, 125 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.720 I'm I'm here to like make my case as a great fan. Like 126 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.759 when you're when you're three to four rows and you're even if you're even if 127 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.399 you're right next to someone man, you feel like you're there. You feel 128 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:15.040 like you're meant to be there, and you can and you're allowed the entire 129 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.000 game. And I will say to today's point, though, michale is one 130 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.680 of the loudest stadiums that I've been at in a long time, and maybe 131 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.600 it's the acoustics in there. Maybe it's just we put on a good brand 132 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:31.080 of basketball. But there's some things that if if in a perfect world, 133 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:33.679 I would change. I would do a lot with that, with that crowd. 134 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:39.639 But let me say Sammy, because I'll say the student section has made 135 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.440 an impact and does make an impact. It just doesn't do it every game. 136 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.919 Sure that's the problem. Let's take this call. Hi, You're on 137 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:50.639 the air and I on the bottom. Hey guys, sorry George here. 138 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:56.759 I don't know if you know you're uh so, no, what I did 139 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:03.919 that. I was sitting in the student section area, like I think I 140 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.559 was just off to the right, you know, like there's the the section 141 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:11.159 behind the basket, and I was off to the right a little bit. 142 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:18.639 Literally. Some guy was like, sit down down in front, down in 143 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.600 front, down in front. I'm like, hey man, I'm cheering. 144 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:26.799 Man, I'm here like I'm here to like be a fan and like make 145 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.000 noise. And they and they just they hated it. Well, when did 146 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:33.879 you When was this this year or previous years, last year, last year. 147 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.240 Here's the thing and another thing. So the students, it is what 148 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.159 it is, and I've been here since eighty seven or since eighty seven, 149 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.919 and everyone talked about the blue hairs, right, those guys are gone. 150 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.679 They've been replaced by new blue hairs. The people who have its just kind 151 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:50.720 of turns and turns turns. Uh, And he's right, there's it's never 152 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:56.320 gonna change because those seats are pretty much vested into the people that have had 153 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.679 them forever and they ain't going to give those up and is not going to 154 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.039 give up the revenue from all that. But you know, George, thanks 155 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.320 for the call. I appreciated. The point I was trying to make, 156 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:11.440 though, Sammy, is that there are games and I expect this weekend to 157 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:15.440 be one of them where the student where the student section structured as it is, 158 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:18.399 has a huge ym knock on the game. And my argument is it 159 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.000 should be like that. If you're a great student section, it should be 160 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.360 like that every game, whether it's Morgan State or Wisconsin or Duke. And 161 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.879 they don't do that. That said that said, the students are going to 162 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.679 be gone, they're leaving. No this weekend, I think it would be 163 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.240 they'll they'll be here this week then after that, Okay, with the break, 164 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.320 I thought this week today is the last day of classes, tomorrow's that 165 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.399 day or reading day. And understand what you know, what what your your 166 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.679 your your comment on you know the structure there. They're far away, they 167 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:52.799 are, I get it. You know other student sections just closer. But 168 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:58.879 other student sections aren't. Don't don't have a basketball team that generates the fan 169 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.759 interest in Arizona's like case you student section sits on top of the court, 170 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:09.320 right so because they can't sell those seats to anybody else. But but again, 171 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.559 the student section can have and has had an impact on a lot of 172 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.000 games, but they don't do it all the time. And you know, 173 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:20.879 you look up in the because when those bleachers were around three sides of the 174 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.840 court, when if you didn't if you didn't get there for for seven o'clock 175 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:26.559 game, if you weren't there at four o'clock when the door's opened, you 176 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:31.240 didn't get one of those seats, and then the overflow of the student section 177 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.799 was in the upper deck as it is now. Well, we got another 178 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:39.799 call. Hi, you're on the air and eye on the ball. Hey, 179 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:45.919 it's Tommy Sue, the Indiana apologist speaking about student sections. The bottom 180 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:50.039 line is this, you're not going to move your student ticket your season ticket 181 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.279 holers out of their seats, especially in the age of n I L, 182 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.919 because they're the same people that you're hoping are going to fund your in I 183 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:03.279 l UH. Indiana has the same problem. They put the students in the 184 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.159 bleachers at the end. And in this case, if you have ever been 185 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.799 to Assembly Hall, which is a strange building, they're a little bit closer, 186 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:15.200 but you know you're not going to move your season take holes out of 187 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:16.960 their seats, and exactly right, and that doesn't even have anything to do 188 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.440 with n AL. They were never once they moved them away from the side, 189 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.840 they were never coming back. Yeh didn't in the past. They spotted, 190 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.080 they put them in spotty situations. I think they were in spots and 191 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.000 then they said that ain't working because it was too many spotties and the and 192 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.600 and it was just not working. Too many times the students would stand up. 193 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.039 People behind them were saying, no, we hear you. That's there's 194 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.879 too much, too much revenue, don't you think don't you think that you're 195 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.679 hoping that your your season ticket holders are going to contribute to your NIL. 196 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.200 If I'm not getting my basketball tickets, you're not getting my money. Right, 197 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.759 right, exactly, absolutely appreciate you. No, it's yeah, and 198 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.320 you and in that sense, in that sense, you know, the schools 199 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:03.679 are between the rock and a hard place. Do we break, do we 200 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.960 make the money, or do we have you know, students losing their minds 201 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.240 closer to And I only bought that up because of what I saw last night. 202 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.799 And you said you've been there a couple of times. Yeah, to 203 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.759 me, the place is just crazy. It is. And but you know 204 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:22.039 what you mean, Yeah, but division went basketball new to them, that's 205 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.240 one. You know, they're fairly good, right, they've been pretty good. 206 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.600 Yeah, it's a smaller arena, so it doesn't take as many students 207 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.720 to make a mess of the place. And it isn't it right now? 208 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.480 And it's in it, it's the thing, and it wasn't I mean again, 209 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.080 you know that game I went to several years ago, they were crazy. 210 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.440 They've been like that since they opened that arena back whenever g CU opened, 211 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:46.120 Like that's that's been their mantra. That's been their thing, and like 212 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:50.919 we've had I used to play high school basketball games there and like the arena 213 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:54.720 itself is very very nice. Yeah, it'satively new. Yeah, No, 214 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.120 it's pretty new, but it's they do a really good job. And as 215 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:03.360 a fan there they have there's not a bad seat just because it is. 216 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:07.360 It's not it's not as small as maybe some people would think, but they 217 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:09.600 fill it every time. It's really good and it's one of those arenas that's 218 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.320 really steep, so you're like on the top of the you feel like you're 219 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.799 on top of the court, like a Matt Court kind of thing. It's 220 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.879 it doesn't have an upper deck, but you know how Matt Court was built, 221 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.559 like straight looking auditorium or whatever. They're straight down. That's that's Those 222 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:26.360 are great because you can just it just goes crazy. Okay, you no, 223 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.080 I just Steve, you killed a whole and I didn't know what I 224 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:35.679 was gonna say a minute in the whole segment. All right, real quick, 225 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.480 Glenn Parker coming up. We're gonna talk about that eighty nine Arizona Oklahoma 226 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:43.480 game where Arizona Arizona wanna want a barn burner and just talk about you know 227 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.600 what it's like to play against Oklahoma's. Arizona's going to in a couple of 228 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:52.840 weeks, so be sure to come back for Glenn Parker. Ah right, 229 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:13.039 No, don't need no faves dog reservations I got. 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And one of the reasons why we brought them on is 311 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:03.319 to talk about the Oklahoma game when we were thinner and younger and he was 312 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.799 bigger and stronger. You know, I had just turned thirty when that game 313 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:10.039 came around. I was twenty five, because that was in September of eighty 314 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:14.200 nine. I was twenty five. I was man, I was sliding towards 315 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:18.359 I was about ten years away. Your parents probably hadn't even met, No, 316 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.559 definitely hadn't Oh man, I don't even want to hear that for sure, 317 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:26.319 but that you know, you know, we talked about that game a 318 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:33.880 whole bunch, yo. So they showed they've been showing the kick on Twitter 319 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.680 a lot with Doug and Doug Toro, And you're right. I think Larson 320 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:41.920 said that he hit it, and Larson said missed it because it looked short 321 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:42.920 and it was. It was dump. There was a thump to it. 322 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:47.279 Yeah, it was about the order to just over the over the thing. 323 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:48.559 Yeah, yeah, barely. Well, I you know, I was watching 324 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.240 it because by that time we're down on the side of right, So I 325 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:53.759 remember watching it from I was on the correct end of the field. I 326 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:56.599 was on that end of the field, but we were on the side. 327 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:57.640 Yeah, and the same thing. He hit it, and I'm like, 328 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:02.200 I don't know, that's to make It wasn't that far too. It was 329 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.400 like it was forty yards, Yeah, it was forty one yards. Later 330 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:11.960 in a story I heard, I heard Doug say that he was hurt. 331 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:17.200 He had I think it was a hip or or a hamstring or something like 332 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:19.200 that, and that was as far as he was going to kick it that 333 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:22.480 night. Well, it's funny because we've had. We've had Doug on before 334 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:26.160 and we've talked about this, you know, a lot. And we had 335 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.480 John k Nees as well. John Yees was was a kicker. He's the 336 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:33.160 kicker we long kickoff guy, and he was the holder, but he could 337 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:36.720 kick longer, right. And then they had Miller, I think Josh Miller 338 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:40.200 at the time the punter, right, but I can't remember Doug being a 339 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:42.680 blong kicker. It was not. And that was also people forget this. 340 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:47.599 That was also the first year you couldn't use it. Goal kickers couldn't use 341 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.279 the tea, right, yeah, And I actually did at the beginning of 342 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:52.160 the year. I did a story on that because that was a big deal, 343 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.720 right because look, you know, everybody talks about what a great kicker 344 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:57.119 Max the Dayhouse was, and he was. He was, but he could 345 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.160 kick fifty seven yards because he was kicking off tea sure, you know. 346 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.319 And that was the first year I heard him on the other program on in 347 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.839 the House because the next year they were doing it in the pros and he 348 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:08.440 couldn't use the t yeah, so I mean, yeah, I couldn't even 349 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.039 be just that. It didn't affect him, really, he said, because 350 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:17.960 he always practiced he did because all those indahouse kickers didn't really do well in 351 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:19.440 the NFL. Well, then I'll have to get him on and say, 352 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.039 what the hell are you talking about, because he talked about not using a 353 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:26.079 T and doing okay, yeah, this was nineteen eighty ninety nine, eight 354 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:30.039 nine. Okay, yeah, but you know we had john NY's on the 355 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.960 trip. But I remember my story that I did on that john Nees talked 356 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:38.839 about how you know, he wanted to, you know, in preseason practice, 357 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.839 he wanted to like take a little like something like a little piece of 358 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.960 paper or a little dot of some sort to put on the ground to know 359 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.319 that that's where he wanted to put the ball. Because I said, my 360 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:52.839 question was, how do you know since there's no TA, how do you 361 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:55.799 know where to set the ball down? And he, you know, he 362 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:57.440 showed me the technique, but he said that he had tried to do that 363 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:00.880 and they said that was against the rules. He couldn't, oh really couldn't 364 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.039 run out there with like like any kind of like a paper dot or something 365 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.880 like that mark or or anything to put on the field. And he said, 366 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.640 so he told me how they do it, and if you see it's 367 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.119 it's a long explanation, but there's a way to do it, so you 368 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:15.599 know where the balls supposed to be. But that was a big deal time 369 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.000 because those guys have never had to do that, you know, look down 370 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:21.440 and put it on the team. You're good. Yeah, yeah, I 371 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:22.720 know. Those are the good old days. Thirty you were talking thirty five 372 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:27.839 years ago, almost eighty nine, almost thirty five, four years ago. 373 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.839 Yeah, yeah, that was you know, I remember that game, and 374 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:36.000 and it was people would have hated that game right now. Oh it's boring. 375 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:38.160 Sixty three, yeah, boring, and it was it was I don't 376 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.240 remember, it'd be bored. I remember my dad who came to visit. 377 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.640 It was late September, early October, just and they had just lost. 378 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.000 We talked about that. The butt beat a text, the text, but 379 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.279 James Gray ran all over them. Yeah, and you're thinking, how good 380 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.079 this is, this team gonna be not gonna be right. And then they 381 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:59.400 came out because it was the first Oklahoma, the first year Oklahoma coach. 382 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.960 It wasn't after Barry Switzer. Barry yeah, oh god, I had his 383 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:10.119 name just a minute ago. That guy, that guy and uh and they 384 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:11.480 came in and it was. It was, you know, six to three 385 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.200 games like you expect it to be. But and again Dick told me kind 386 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.680 of game and and uh, you know, Glenn was one of the first 387 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.480 guys I went and talked to. And I think maybe even the first guy 388 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.640 went and talked to in the locker room, because I remember, you know, 389 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.119 it was that locker room underneath the north side of the stadium, and 390 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.279 would go in there was just a big room, is really what it was. 391 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:33.640 It really was in a locker room. Their locker room at that time 392 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.680 was at McHale. So they'd come walk over to the stadium already dressed, 393 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.160 but it was a place where they could meet. It wasn't really a locker 394 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.079 room. And would go in there and there'd just be chairs over the place 395 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:47.680 and guys would be sitting around. You just go up and talk to somebody. 396 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:52.200 I remember the door opened and across the room I could see Glenn Parker 397 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.240 and he's sitting on either on a stool or a chair, and he's got 398 00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.599 like he's got he doesn't have his head between his legs, got his head 399 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.799 down and looked like he had just been through a war of this sort. 400 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.839 And and that and I went up and talked to him, and that was 401 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:08.400 basically my lead that he looked like he had just been through some sort of 402 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:11.759 uh you know, yeah, probably they probably were. I mean, it 403 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.319 was a tough game, physic, physical game. Why don't we try him 404 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.519 one more time? Can you can we call him? Well, well, 405 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.759 we'll keep talking. But you know, it was, uh that that just 406 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:25.839 struck me as like, Okay, here's you know, here's a game nobody 407 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.480 scored, but you knew that these guys had been in a game sure, 408 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.039 And I couldn't tell you anything that happened during the game except for that field 409 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:38.920 goal. Except for that field goal. Well, I remember that after Arizona 410 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:44.359 kicks the field and there's there's like a minute left in the game, and 411 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.480 Oregon was still running I mean, Oklahoma's still running the option because that that's 412 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.559 what they ran. They couldn't they still couldn't, you know, they weren't 413 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:53.720 going to throw the ball down the field to try and to try and uh 414 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.519 to get down there and and and and score that they you know, and 415 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.759 and it just did happened. I mean, they ran three or they ran 416 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.799 four plays, and that was that they were out of time and right so 417 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:08.519 so the and just watching the film amit on Twitter. Uh, everyone's excited. 418 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.759 It was less than a minute left, right, less than a minute 419 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.920 left and going crazy and Dick running onto the field and everybody get out of 420 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.599 the field because a fifteen yard penalty right would give them more. Uh yeah, 421 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.079 you know, because they could have gotten an un sportsman like penalty. 422 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.720 Sure, sure, no, I remember that. It was like to no 423 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.920 avail, but they did kind of get back and then you know they ran 424 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:32.319 the clock out. Yeah yeah, so yeah, no, it was, 425 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.240 it was. It was a great night. I mean, look, I 426 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.000 yeah again, I've always told you. I mean, well, while I 427 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.319 was able to do my work, you know, you know, in a 428 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.599 very impartial way, I thought. I still thought it was so cool that 429 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.839 they beat Oklahoma because we had gone the year before, and I think they 430 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.160 got beat by ten. But it was never again, it was not, 431 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:53.359 it was not. They were never in the game. And did you did 432 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.440 you do you remember much that trip up there, because I don't. I 433 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.880 just remember the field on the crown, Yeah, the crowned, and that's 434 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.079 pretty much all I remember at Oklahoma. I remember that Greg Hanson I got 435 00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:10.480 lost in Oklahoma City because it has. Oklahoma City had had one of those 436 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.440 beltways, so basically a freeway that closed around them of the city. We 437 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:21.359 did two laps before we realized where we were supposed to get off. I 438 00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:22.880 don't remember when I was driving, Greg was navigating, and all of a 439 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.480 sudden I realized that, Greg, I think we've seen this exit. What 440 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.400 were did we miss it? And you know, and back then, you 441 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:30.799 know, right, you had a map, you didn't have the GPS, 442 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.880 sure, and you know because where we got onto the freeway was on the 443 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:38.000 opposite side of Oklahoma City from where the Norman exit was, So it basically 444 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.559 did a lap and a half to get to get off at the Norman exit. 445 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:47.839 But I do remember walking up and thinking, for as prestigious blue Blood 446 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.680 or whatever was, it wasn't there that it was at the program of the 447 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:56.039 stadium was a rickety old wood stag. As you say that, That's what 448 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:57.599 I was thinking, because I don't remember much of it. I wasn't really 449 00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:03.160 impressed, would remember of it was. I just remember the Crown. It 450 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:04.799 was small. The Crown day. You stood on the sidelines. You can 451 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.920 look across the field and you can you can only see the guys from the 452 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.079 knee down, He's down. It was very strange. Uh. And it 453 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.880 was slippery that day it had been raining and the Arizona guys didn't know how 454 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.880 to deal with. I don't remember the press room. I don't remember that 455 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.880 at all. I don't think there was one because I remember going to the 456 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.519 locker room. What do you mean to see? We had to watch the 457 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.480 game from the press from the press box. Oh, it was tiny. 458 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.240 I can't remember that. Yeah, it was. It was. It was, 459 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.480 it was, it was. It was a tiny little place, you 460 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.839 know, Like I said, it not not not an impressive stadium for sure, 461 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.880 not for being They've done a lot with it since then, but sure, 462 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.519 and that might have actually been No, I was gonna say the first 463 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.640 time I ever actually was on astro turf was that the Sun Bowl in eighty 464 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.319 five. But you know when the few times that i'd been on on astro 465 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.160 turf during that during that period of time, and I remember, I want 466 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.680 you to walk down on the field to see what it was like, because 467 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:02.240 but that crown was so crazy. Yeah yeah, but you know, here 468 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.200 we are thirty four years later or whatever. You know, I'm a most 469 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:10.279 surprised that they not you know, never did play again. Yeah, especially 470 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:11.960 when Sooops got there. Well, you know what would you want, Well, 471 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.680 well, you don't want to play. It's like this, it's like 472 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.880 the Tommy Lloyd thing. Yeah, you don't want to go back and deal 473 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.279 with that mess. But but you'd have thought that the fact that Arizona beat 474 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.920 him, that they want to come back and they do that, try and 475 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.160 do that again. You know, Well, the coaches I can't remember. 476 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.400 Probably Dick knew them, but not that well, yeah, the new coaches. 477 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.039 But you know, I remember going up and talking to Barry Switzer and 478 00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:40.519 again thinking, this guy's a legend, right, this guy, you know, 479 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:42.799 this guy's legendary. He's you know, we're we're in we're in the 480 00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:48.079 high rent district of a football blue. Did you ever get a call? 481 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.160 Had to be maybe you were out of the beat already, but maybe nineteen 482 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:56.960 ninety Griffith was the offensive coordinator, Ben Griffith, uh and and there was 483 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.960 Dick was having issues or I can't remember remember what it was. Well, 484 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.799 the offensive coordinator was having Ben was having issues because they leader fired him and 485 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.319 getting a call to the paper because that's all you there's no internet and all 486 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.400 that's sorry, get calls that Barry Switzers was gonna try to get a job 487 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.839 here. Never heard that. I got a call like that. And then 488 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.400 guess what you have to do. You have to chase that. You gotta 489 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.799 chase him down. So I had you could you knew it was kind of 490 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.000 frivolous. And like when Rick Patina was coming right right right here? Was 491 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:30.319 that he was? That was that restaurant mar So you got old man. 492 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.440 So I remember saying, how stupid is this? But now I'll have to 493 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.160 make a couple of quick calls. Well you go back to you go back 494 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.279 to when when when Dick was hired and and there were all these coaches, 495 00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:45.839 you know, uh Bruce what's uh yes, uh Earl Bruce from Ohio State. 496 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.279 He was like the fourth jack now and all those guys that were coming 497 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.400 here right for that, and then Dick Tomy ends up in the He was 498 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:53.480 like the fourth or fifth guy, right, yeah, yeah, he was 499 00:31:53.519 --> 00:32:02.240 down the list. So let me see here is so yes, yeah, 500 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:06.519 can we just get him on at the next break? Yeah, yeah, 501 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.680 I haven't called us at three. Okay, we'll go to break. We'll 502 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:13.240 go to break now, time to call us in five minutes. Let's go 503 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.920 take a break, Sammy, Let's go. Uh, Steve will get to 504 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:20.319 get Glenna Callis and we'll have Glenn Parker here for the next second. So 505 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.680 thanks for bearing with us out there, so we'll be right back with Glenn 506 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:35.079 Parker. Well, don't I came here tonight. I've got to feel something 507 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:40.680 right. I'm so scared of kids. Off allowed my chair and I wanna 508 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:47.599 get down stairs. Clowns they letting me joke us to the right here. 509 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.799 I have stuck in the middle with you, youse. I'm stuck in the 510 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.880 middle with you. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know it's 511 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.799 been successful for newly forty years. Now take a look back at the Loudolsen 512 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.640 era in my new book, Lessons from Lut It was a labor of love 513 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.519 through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches and friends to give insight 514 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.559 to the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, and 515 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.079 inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. 516 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.720 Lessons from Lut is an insight to how he built the program into a 517 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:24.599 national powerhouse. Want one email me at Steve dot RIVERA ninety five at gmail 518 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.200 dot com. 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Hey, 552 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.039 welcome back to IM about Jerold Fox Sports, Steve Roberto, he's jaws, 553 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.760 got Sammy work at the board. Just an update real quick. We're gonna 554 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:09.559 talk to Glenn tomorrow in the second hour. He had a meeting to get 555 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.360 to, so we're gonna move him to the other side. We're also gonna 556 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.920 have Doug Faft tomorrow. So a lot of things about Oklahoma tomorrow. Right. 557 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:19.960 Doug kicked that game winning field goal in the eighty nine game, so 558 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.320 a little chat about that. Yeah. So I don't know if you want 559 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:27.519 to get back to the basketball situation just because it was created some calls and 560 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.800 some thoughts. Well, the thing about it is that regardless of all of 561 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.880 that, McHale is still a hard place for the teams to come and play. 562 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.400 Sure it can be sure crazy, Sure it would be loud. There 563 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.840 have been times, you know, I have told the story when when that 564 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:45.159 Florida game Mark Mark Lions, Yeah, makes a basket the game in the 565 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.719 game, the guy who's calling the game for me, when I'm doing that, 566 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.480 he's literally screaming into my ear, like about to my ear, like 567 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.480 two inches from my ear, and I can't hear it. You know, 568 00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:00.519 no, no, that it's funny. But for the book that I wrote, 569 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.039 and I was talking to Montgomery, coach Montgomery from Safford, he talked 570 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.159 about him playing here and blah blah blah, He's just Steve. They had 571 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:14.000 some pretty good players. That was the difficult part of it. That's the 572 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.760 hard part. Not to disminister the crowd because there, he said, they're 573 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.119 very bright and they know the game. But when you're playing against those type 574 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.079 of players, it's tough to win here. Well, here's the thing, 575 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:30.599 and I've always thought this is that the crowd the home the home court advantage. 576 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:37.440 It helps the home play home team players more than it hurts the visiting. 577 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.599 In fact, I think a lot of a lot of players who if 578 00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:44.840 they're competitors, they want to come and play. Sure, hell they want 579 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.239 to play in that atmosphere. Sure you you know, I who on the 580 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.960 Arizona team, didn't want to go to Duke. That's why I was just 581 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:57.000 kidding that as an example, you're going, you're the underdog, and I 582 00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:00.440 don't know, and I've said this agnauseum. So they're with the team. 583 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:06.400 Arizona is fantastic as a dog, fantastic as a dog. You give them 584 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.400 a favorite role, they're horrible. Honestly, the tournament. The tournament is 585 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:14.320 exactly that they won the tournament because they were. They were underdogs all the 586 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.079 whole way through the way through, after the second, after the first game, 587 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.559 second game to Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, all these teams, 588 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.119 no one expected it. But the year later when they were the favorite, 589 00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:30.199 we know how that went. That really sucked. No, No, but 590 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.280 you but you know, I hear you a guy, you know again, 591 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:37.119 somebody who competes at that level, because you know, if you're playing college 592 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.599 basketball, you're even a much more of a competitor than most of the guys 593 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.440 you ran through in high school. Sure, as you move up and you 594 00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:49.159 know in where you're playing, you know, like you and I never had 595 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:53.280 the chops to be able to compete from a mental standpoint at say an NFL 596 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:58.119 level A level or Major League Baseball level. Those guys that they're made different. 597 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.760 Sure, of course, those guys want to play in those situations. 598 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.559 They do as competitors. They want they want to go in there and want 599 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:06.760 to conquer that. Sure. Sure, no, it's like, well we 600 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.079 talked about when we asked how what did it feel like? That's that's a 601 00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.880 big deal because we we would never know. But like the guy from Philly, 602 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:21.079 the guy from the game, Brice Harper, that's that's every day they're 603 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:22.880 used to this, and you know we would never know, and we could 604 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.559 pretend to say, well, it must be tough, must be nerve wrecking. 605 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:29.639 These dudes do it every day. But again, you know the flip 606 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.119 side of that is if you're the home team, you know you can get 607 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.880 some juice out of that. Oh yeah, right, I said, you 608 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.239 can play a little harder, play a little better, play a little more 609 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.639 confident. Sure, when you know the crowds behind you. Sure, we 610 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:44.760 look at look at what San Francisco did to Philly over the weekend on the 611 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.639 road beat the crap out of them, And was it before the game? 612 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.199 Who knew or what did you think phil Philly or San Francisco. Who's a 613 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.360 better team? You would think that Philly the only lost one. Yeah, 614 00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:58.440 playing at home, and played at home and went in there and said, 615 00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.280 you guys let them up. Yeah. So home field is as good as 616 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:05.719 you wanted to be that day. Yeah. Now, so yeah, that 617 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.079 that and then and you when people talk about home field or home court advantage, 618 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.320 it's more about the home team is going to you know, get something 619 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.519 out of it, and you're really not affecting the other side. No. 620 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:21.000 In fact, let's go over the last couple of seasons. It hasn't been 621 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.760 a great schedule. But the u c l A game last year probably a 622 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:28.599 huge game, right because it brought to back the guy for the spinner Guy, 623 00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.800 and it was crazy, you know, it was crazy. And there's 624 00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.239 been a very few though, a few games like that. Well, and 625 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.039 that's just because well because the Pac tap has not been very good, sure, 626 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.559 and that's part of it. You know, even Oregon the last couple 627 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.039 of years just hasn't been all that great. In spite of the fact that 628 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:46.199 Arizona lost to some of these teams in terms of that team walking on the 629 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:52.639 court. McHale wasn't just for No. And it wasn't the last five years 630 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.639 of Sean. It's been a while, but think but think back for I 631 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.920 think back to those years when Duke was coming here, when you know, 632 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.199 oh, come on, of those teams are coming when the place was Michigan 633 00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.159 State, Yukon, Kansas, North Carolina, North Carolina and that was just 634 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.039 a tobaccle. Yeah. Yeah, but it didn't start out that way at 635 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:14.880 the start of the game, No, was not. And in my time 636 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.480 too, that ticket was probably the hottest ticket you could get before the before 637 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.079 the game, right you know that that that festival tournament, it wasn't a 638 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.920 tournament at that time. Of the single game when when Kansas came down, 639 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:29.679 that was and that was like a week night if I recall, that was 640 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.480 nuts. You know. So I wish they would They're not gonna bring it 641 00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.239 back, but I wish they would have that four game, four team, 642 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.239 two game set. That was a fun four days. That was a that 643 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:43.559 was a celebration of basketballs town. You know when when they were doing that 644 00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.519 was that it was called the Fastball Classic. The fastball. The two is 645 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.519 a four team tournament. Good teams, very good teams, like classic teams. 646 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:54.400 And they'd play and then they play with Sunday or the next you know. 647 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:58.840 Yeah, well they play on a Thursday, give a day off and 648 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.519 then come back to the next and the next day. And it was dou 649 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:06.000 It was the big time people coming into Duke. The best one that stands 650 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:10.960 out eighty eight season Duke Florida, Michigan State in Arizona in a in a 651 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.360 at Mchael Center. Yeah. But when you're Michigan, you know, because 652 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:20.760 in those tournaments, they always pick one team to kind of be the sacrificial 653 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.000 lamp of it. And when that team is Michigan State, that tells you. 654 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:30.280 I mean we're talking jud Heathcoke, Mike Krzyzewski, and Norm Sloan. 655 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:35.519 Uh where the coaches and and Loot were the coaches of those. Yeah, 656 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.360 they just have a big party in between games on the resorts and kind of 657 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:44.559 just came during Christmas time and they would love to come because of the weather. 658 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.079 Look at the weather. Uh, fantastic time. But I mean Maryland 659 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:52.320 came down here for that, Michigan came down here for that. So, 660 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.800 but they eventually just said, you know, it's it's too difficult to put 661 00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.920 on now and one teams didn't want to give up two of their game two 662 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.960 of their games to come to and play them at McHale. Right, yeah, 663 00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.280 I guess like back then, scheduling and record mattered a little more than 664 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.239 it does like now. Yeah, and so you guess you could see but 665 00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:15.280 like man having like the four best teams, and I guess the Maui kind 666 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.320 of has that be Still there are eight teams. Some games aren't great. 667 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:21.119 But if you had like like you said, if you had a Kentucky, 668 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.920 Kansas and Yukon and u V, like, that's awesome much if you got 669 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:29.280 those teams to come. But not not not anymore. And they and they 670 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.039 changed rules too, because back then those two games counted against your allotment the 671 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.239 games, whereas now you go to Maui, it counts as one game. 672 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.840 The call, you know, that's what the call or whatever. So you 673 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:45.039 go to Maui, you're gonna play three, but it don't be because it's 674 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.440 a special event like that on a neutral court, it counts. It only 675 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:51.639 counts as one game against your schedule. And still like if you had it 676 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.599 here, that other game that you is not playing in would still be packed. 677 00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:58.239 Yeah, it was, yeah, because they were playing was still playing 678 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.000 that night. Like if you came to the first night of that festival tournament. 679 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:07.079 The first game was Michigan Florida, Michigan State tick back it was it 680 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:12.159 was. It was Michigan State, Arizona, Duke Florida, and then Michigan 681 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.599 State Arizona double header. Okay wow, so literally like a final four. 682 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.760 So then the second day it was Florida and Michigan State in Arizona and Duke. 683 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.840 Yeah, that's a long time ago, long time. It lasted until 684 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:30.599 about two thousand. Bobby passed. Lout's wife lost. They lost it. 685 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.599 The only one that they lost was that week that year. I think I'll 686 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.480 never forget that in Mississippi State. Yeah, I'll never forget that because right 687 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.559 before Christmas. And this is a story I think it made the book. 688 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.679 So and my attachment to Loot. So Loot was never close to people. 689 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.840 He didn't get close to many people. So they had just lost the time 690 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.280 before. It was the semi final game because ROZs coached the championship game. 691 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:58.519 Because everyone says there were thirty eight in Rod's because ros lost the game. 692 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.519 So that semi final game, she had been very ill of his wife, 693 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:07.960 Bobby U and he was going to the hospital all the time to go check 694 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.840 on her, spend most of her time with her when he was not coaching. 695 00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:14.440 So and typically like me, because I didn't have a deadline to write 696 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.599 my stories the Star diad, so I'd walk with him to the car, 697 00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:21.639 him and him and Bobby when she was around that night, he was walking 698 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.280 to the car by himself and we were and I knew it was very difficult 699 00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.119 time. So I walked with him to the top of the stairs of the 700 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.320 ramp and after doing maybe three quick questions, and he says to me, 701 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:38.000 Merry Christmas, Steve. And I'm thinking he'd never ever acknowledged stuff like that 702 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:43.679 ever, like never, It was never like sentimental, and I think he 703 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.679 got something serious is gonna come. And that was right before Christmas. He 704 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.400 took his leave of absence and she passed a week later. Because he would 705 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.559 never ever Yeah, New Year's Day, he would never ever do that because 706 00:45:54.559 --> 00:46:00.119 he wasn't was a touchy feely guy. Now, yeah, that was the 707 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:06.960 time that you know, No, two thousand two thousand, yeah, you 708 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.239 know, and that that was the you know, if you ever want to 709 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.079 say that, Look, Arizon basketball has been great for a long time, 710 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.880 but there were some glory years. Oh yeah, right, without going with 711 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:20.159 that period of time, just let's say from early nineties, well, late 712 00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.480 late eighties into two thousand and one and yeah two well two thousand and three 713 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:27.920 if you don't remember, because the weekend, the weekend you went to Aanaheim 714 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.960 to watch them play Kansas. Remember they played Kansas and they lost to Kansas. 715 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:34.639 There was the number one seed. That team, I don't know if 716 00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.440 you know this, that team spent the most weeks at number one one then 717 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:39.880 any right, that well it was nothing. That team was on the cover 718 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:43.880 of Sports Illustrated that any team he ever have. Yeah, and you would 719 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:45.559 have never ever thought that, but that was that team. Yeah, and 720 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:51.000 that's why my kids, my son and his my godson cried when that was 721 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:52.119 two thousand and three, right, yeah, two thousand and three. Yeah, 722 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.519 they lost your Kansas. We didn't. We didn't actually we didn't go 723 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:59.519 to that we you know, we were watching it and that during the game, 724 00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.440 thinking didn't get right. During the game, we're setting up flights and 725 00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:06.280 hotels and tickets. That's how you know they're gonna lose. Well, then 726 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.079 that was two thousand and three, and then uh, and then a year 727 00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:15.760 or two later the real debacle happens, which with with Illinois lose a fifteen 728 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.000 point lead in the last four minutes. Yeah, the beginning. As soon 729 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:24.159 as you start looking at flights and well, we're going, well the years, 730 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.880 the ninety seven year, we did the same thing. But that remember 731 00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.599 they were playing Providence in the in the lead eight, right, because they 732 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.079 knocked off Kansas. They're playing Providence. You must have been calling during that 733 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.079 time because that we were too. That went to overtime. We had done 734 00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.000 it. We were setting that up. They had a nice lead, right, 735 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.480 we were setting up our flights and hotels and stuff for that. Yeah. 736 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:49.519 So they survived that and then they got to the final four. That 737 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.360 may have been one of the that Kansas game. Well, I still think 738 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.320 they won it in the first round because they were dead in the first round. 739 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.719 I can sell Alabama. So just the stuff that remember, right, 740 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.760 we can't remember Steve like yesterday man, Yeah, puse kind of you're in 741 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.360 it. You're in it. Yeah, yeah, you know, just all 742 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.920 all those things that somebody just pointed out, Sean Miller came and played here 743 00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.880 in the Fistbal Classic with Pittsburgh nineteen ninety one. I think he was a 744 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.599 point guard for pitt Yeah, and he came and played here, yeah, 745 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.320 in that in that tournament. That's crazy, crazy stuff. Just you know, 746 00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:27.719 some great players that came came through here and were part of that, 747 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.320 And I mean, this whole town looked forward to that. It was kind 748 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.920 of like everything else stopped during the because it was a four day It was 749 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.199 a four day stretch, right, You'd have press conference games, then the 750 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.719 in between days there was a big, a big banquet where all the teams 751 00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:45.360 would stay up in town of Canyon and then there was a giant banquet there. 752 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:47.039 No, the banquet was always a La Paloma, but stayed at the 753 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.280 Canyon and then the finals. It was it was a huge celebration of basketball 754 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.519 in this town. And that's when students weren't here right well, And that 755 00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.000 was the other thing. The student tickets would get sold to the public, 756 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.960 so that was that was also a thing where fans who didn't have season tickets 757 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.119 go to those games. And that made it even more nuts because now you 758 00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:14.039 had you had, you know what, three thousand or two thousand fans who 759 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:15.719 didn't ever get to go to these games and now they were coming to see 760 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:20.480 duke. And you know in all these schools Maryland, Maryland with Gary Williams 761 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:25.159 came here, he was he was a cock ahead. He remembers that one. 762 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.159 Well he was one of the most cranky guys and he was, he 763 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:30.320 was cranky, but there, you know, it was. It was an 764 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.760 incredible, incredible period of time for for Arizona basketball. So Sean came in 765 00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:39.880 eighty nine. I'm just doing and that was that. That was the year 766 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:45.159 that what's in Jerome, what's his name busted the busted the backboard. If 767 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.760 you ever seen throw it, throw it down Jerome. He was the first 768 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.519 one to shatter a backboard. Was in a game. No, it didn't 769 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.880 happen here, but it was that season because because because John Miller was the 770 00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:59.119 one who threw him that pass on the dunk where he then broke the backboard. 771 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:04.920 Wo Man. So it was eighty eight Michigan State they played December twenty 772 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.920 ninth, and then the Thirtieththers Duke. Yeah, it was in the eighty 773 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:09.440 seven eighty eight season. It would have happened in nineteen eighty seven. That 774 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:13.239 was the December of eighty seven, the magical year. Yeah, yeah, 775 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:15.559 we need that back. We do. Yeah, that would take out, 776 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.320 that would take a miracle. He's just not gonna go do that anymore. 777 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:22.320 You know. They'll go play again. They'll go playing Maway, they're playing 778 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:28.719 the Bahamas. They'll do the well in the schedulings. Well because well and 779 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.400 now you have you have conference games and yeah, that's what I was about 780 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.840 to say. Yeah, if, if, if this would be cool, 781 00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:36.880 if you had that same kind of tournament, but you had Kansas and a 782 00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.440 Baylor back to back in a back to back weekend where it would be you 783 00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:44.599 know, Tuesday, Thursday, whatever, Because it's gonna feel like that come 784 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.079 regular season. Yeah when we go to car Yeah, yeah, you're gonna 785 00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:52.679 miss a lot. But when you're a doctor, you're doing whatever you're doing, 786 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.079 you can come. You could fly some of my dad's for it, 787 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.480 or my younger brother when he wants to, if he wants to do that. 788 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:07.119 Not I man, you'll never be calling the doctor. You're not. 789 00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:15.360 You're not never No, so sabby uh public Yeah, So what did you 790 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:19.039 want to grow up broke being a journalist man because okay, so this is 791 00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.679 ideally. So I grew up playing sports and I picked the wrong one. 792 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.000 I was really good at basketball, and I was vertically challenged. I was 793 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.119 like five eight max, that's and but I was a really good soccer player, 794 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.800 and I was either going to play soccer or basketball in high school. 795 00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:38.360 And I went and played basketball, football and ran track all the ones where 796 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:44.800 like you kind of want to be tall, long legs. And then when 797 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.079 I was like, yeah, I'm not making it uh anywhere anytime soon, 798 00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.960 I was like I was really good at I was a really good writer at 799 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.119 the time. So I was like sports and my dad I used to turn 800 00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:00.360 off like the local broadcast for Sons and deep X games and we would just 801 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.519 do it cool because we were like, we saved your take? Did you? 802 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.480 Did you take it? No? I mean my mom probably has my 803 00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:12.039 mom probably has something somewhere. But that's where the dream began, and that's 804 00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.239 where and this is where we're at. So stuck in this room with old 805 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:20.239 fat guys. It's this crazy little thing called love by Queen, which we're 806 00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.559 gonna go to break. All right, well, let's head to break. 807 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.280 We're gonna come back. Sorry we didn't get Glenn Park Well we will get 808 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.760 him tomorrow, so we'll be back and Samuel'll have breaking news