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You don't do away prive seventeen.
Do you want to report a UFO thanking

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him? We don't want to report
every thirty one Do you wish to report

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a UFOB and we weren't for one
of those every thirty one? Do you

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wish to find a report of any
kind of it? I wouldn't know what

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kind of rey was cloud n every
thirty one me neither there seven one pup

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of golf good if it was above
us to pass us? Like thirty seconds

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ago there said one pup of golf
thinking it okay off a UFO yeah,

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and nine a cloud Yes, I'll
get passed over? So why God?

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I don't know what it was,
but it's from at least two three thousand

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feet above us, So I passed
right over the top of us ninety one

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one? Do we just called off
to be before they're after standing airplane and

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it is actually hear? I swear
to God, more calm and unidentified on

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ject never liberty, more calm,
unidentified flying on jack All right, Welcome

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to UFO Chronicles, a place where
people share their experiences of the strange and

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unexplained. If you've had an encounter, I would like to be on the

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show. You can email me at
UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. Hello

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everyone, and welcome to the podcast. Wherever in the world you are listening

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from, I hope you are having
a good week. I'm Nick Hunter and

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this is the UFO Chronicles podcast.
Penn Sylvania is our destination today as we

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are joined by Sharon and firstly,
Sharon will be sharing a couple of her

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UFO stings, then about a reoccurring
dream she had at a very young age,

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a distressing dream of dying in a
past life, and a visit from

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a recently deceased teenager who was a
student at the same school that she taught

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at. Sharon up next. If
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the show to continue running. Now on

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with the show. Hello, Sharon, welcome to the podcast. Hi.

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How are you, Nick? I'm
pretty good, thank you, and thank

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you for coming on today. And
you'll call in from Pennsylvania, Yes,

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Pittsburgh, And I'm honored to be
a guest. I really appreciate your time

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and I'm pretty excited to share some
interesting stories for you. Were looking forward

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to it, and you're more than
welcome. Now, Sharon, you have

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some experiences to share with us.
Would you like to start at the beginning

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please, ma'am? Okay, Yeah, Well, the first one I want

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to go over is about a UFO
sighting. And I was in my early

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twenties and I had my cute little
car, and you know, I go

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out on the weekends with girlfriends all
the time, and I was usually the

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designated driver. I'm not a big
drinker, so typically I was the one

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driving. So on this particular evening, it was a Saturday night, I

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had three friends. I went and
picked everybody up, and we didn't have

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the greatest time. It was just
an okay evening and we just weren't feeling

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it. So it ended up not
being a night where we stayed out until

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two when the bars were closing.
We actually packed it up a little bit

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early. I had dropped everybody off. I was on the street that I

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live on, and it's a pretty
long street, a couple of miles and

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a little bit windy and not a
lot of traffic because it was somewhere in

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the vicinity of one o'clock one fifteen, right in there, and driving,

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and I came to a stop sign, and the stop sign actually is right

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at a bend, and just before
I was going to make the bend,

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I stopped, and just right up
in the sky, I just noticed there

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were two circles of white lights.
Each light was the same size. They

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were very white lights. They weren't
glowing. They were actually pretty It's not

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like they had a glow off the
edge of them. They were just pretty

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solid. And there was an outer
circle and an inner circle. And so

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the outer circle was moved at the
same speed as the inner circle, but

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they were going in different directions.
So the outer circle was going clockwise,

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the inner circle was going counterclockwise,
and it was moving rather slow. And

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it was just crazy to see something
like that, and I immediately knew this

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isn't an airplane. I just didn't
know what it was. And UFO was

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the first thing that came to mind, because what else would look like that?

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And I was really actually excited to
see this. So now I'm not

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moving from the stops on my foot's
on the brake and I'm just staring into

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the sky in front of me,
and then all these thoughts start coming through

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my minds. You know what is
this? It has to be UFO.

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This is crazy. I need someone
to see this with me. And I'm

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looking around the ones on the street. It's a family neighborhood. Everyone's probably

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in bed. So I was really
interested to continue to watch this, and

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it seemed like it was putting on
a show for me because the lights would

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go around and then they'd stop,
and then they'd go the opposite way,

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and then they'd stop, and then
the outer circle got a little larger and

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wider. In the inner circle of
lights went in between the outer circle,

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and now there's big, one big, large outer circle and it went around

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for a little bit, and then
lights that were opposite of each other went

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through the center, passing each other
over to the other side, and then

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another set would do it, and
it was a very like a symmetrical The

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whole time there was always the same
distance between the lights, and it truly

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was almost like a light show,
you know, like it was putting on

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a show for me. I didn't
know what the heck I was looking at,

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but it was just there. So
I want to say it was about

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a minute or so into it,
and now I really wanted to look at

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it outside of the car, so
I put the car and park. I

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got out of the car and I
opened the door and I'm standing there and

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it's kind of funny because I was
holding onto the door like that, like

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if this UFO wanted to take me, that was really gonna help me.

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Now. For some reason, though, I felt protected by having the car

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around me, So it's kind of
one hands on the roof of the car

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and one hands on the door.
And I would kept watching, but I

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really didn't feel scared. I just
was mesmer and just in awe of what

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I was seeing. And I'm watching
and watching and just I'm thinking, somebody's

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got to come down the street.
I had somebody has to see this.

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Now, this is in nineteen I
want to say, nineteen eighty nine,

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give or take a year, but
it was right in that ballpark and nobody

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had cell phones so I didn't have
a camera in my car, I didn't

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have a cell phone. There wasn't
anybody I could tell, and so then

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I started thinking, I've been here
a while, it's still here. I

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want someone to see this. And
I was contemplating if I should go to

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one of the neighbor houses right there, there were houses all around, and

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then I'm thinking, well, it'll
be just my luck. I'll knock on

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someone's door one in the morning or
ring a bell, and this thing's going

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to take off, and these people
are gonna think I'm crazy. Are they're

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going to call the police, And
that fear of being a young girl.

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I was about twenty two, and
I just didn't think I would have any

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credibility. I was young, and
people are going to think this girl's not

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So I ended up just not going
to a house and waiting and waiting for

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another carnicle. I'm there now about
fifteen minutes and it's still putting on this

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show. And the whole time I'm
waiting, I'm trying to see are these

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lights on the bottom of a craft
of some sort or the individual you know

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from each other. I could not
see an outline of anything that they were

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on and the sky was so dark, so I just I never fully could

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say yes, I saw like a
round circle of a craft, and these

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were lights underneath. I just couldn't
tell. But I kind of felt like

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it was a craft with lights underneath, because when the circle got to a

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certain point, it never went beyond
that, like it always stayed within the

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confines of a certain limit that the
lights were moving in. And I mean,

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they did some really new things,
but they were always white. They

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were always moving symmetrically. So I'm
now trying to go home. I figure

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nobody's coming. I'm not far from
home. I'm just going to get in

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the car. I'll drive home.
This is up in the sky. I'll

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like my parents up and they can
hopefully witness this with me. And this

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is kind of wild. I got
in my car and I looked, and

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it's funny. As I was getting
in the car, I thought, I

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hope when I lose sight of it
and my eyes aren't locked on it,

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and I go from outside the inside
of the car, it's not gonna go

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away. It'll still be there.
So then I fell confident and I get

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in the car. It's still there. Now as I'm driving to my house.

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It was always in front of me, up in the sky. It

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almost was like it was traveling with
me as I was going home. It

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just never was closer or farther.
It was always the same size, and

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so it kind of to me felt
like it was moving with me. So

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now I have to go down a
slight hill to get to my street to

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turn right where my driveway is.
And as I'm going down the hill,

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the trees start to cover it a
little bit, and I thought, well,

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as soon as I make the bend
real quick, I'll still be able

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to see it. So I make
the bend my eyes are off of it.

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I didn't pull very far. I
just I made the bend. I

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had my window down, and I
stopped and I looked up gone. I

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put the car in park, I
opened the door, I get out.

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I'm looking and looking. It was
gone and I never saw it again.

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So it was just I was so
upset. I wanted someone to witness this

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with me. I would say there
were probably twenty lights, eighteen to twenty

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lights total. And I've been almost
obsessed with watching every single UFO story on

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TV, and I love now that
we have so many more documentaries to watch

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and so many more things on TV
than we did back then, And I've

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watched as much as I can.
I'm always looking for a new show or

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who's going to talk about an experience. Nobody has ever described that anything like

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that. The closest I ever got
was on a couple of shows people had

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mentioned there were white lights that were
in a circle and they moved around,

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but that was it. It was
never the lights put on a show and

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turned into two circles and went different
ways and switched places with each other.

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Nothing like that. So, you
know, I've always wondered, has anyone

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else seen what I saw? Pretty
crazy? Yeah, that's definitely a strange

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one that I mean, you know, if it was if you'd experiences over

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the last couple of years, you
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it's those new spotlights. You know
that nightclubs and shows us. You

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know, they're they're pretty advanced now. They dance around and stuff. But

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this is nineteen eighty nine and we
didn't have that then. Not that many

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either, you know, I know
what you're talking about. We have grand

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openings for things and they might have
like three or four lights that are going

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up, but you can see the
band of light leading up to it.

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These were just perfect circles, bright
in the sky, coming from the sky.

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Yeah, it did. There's no
way it was anything like that back

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then too. We didn't have drones, you know, because I've seen some

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drone shows that are really cool recently
on the internet, just you know,

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neat stuff to look at. But
it's not even anything like that. It

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was just solid, solid, round
circles. I don't know, I really

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don't know what to say. It
was a pretty neat thing to see.

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I wish I had a witness to
it, and I would love to see

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one of these shows where somebody describes
the same thing. Yet to have that

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happen. M Well, you know, we might get lucky and one of

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our listeners might ride in reporting something
similar. I mean I did have something

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similar earlier of a guest. It's
a little bit different, but I had

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the disc and then we had smaller
discs within, but their behavior was a

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little bit different. And it was
several years actually it was only about six

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years ago. But you're saying that
we had the main circle, so that

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was the main circle of light,
and then within the main circle we had

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several other lights. Is that right? Yes? The lights. When I

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first noticed that there were two circles, the smaller circle and the larger circle.

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They were all the same size,
all the same distance apart. Everything

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when it moved was symmetrical, like
there was always the same amount of space

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between the lights. They would always
move at the same speed. And what

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was really cool was when the outer
circle got a little bit larger and the

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smaller circle the lights went up and
when in between the larger lights and it

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made one big circle. And then
they did these little things where they would

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move the two lights opposite each other, would go to the circle, pass

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each other, and then take each
other spot on the other side, and

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then the next set would do it, and the next set would do it.

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It was seriously like a show was
being put on. And they did

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different things too. There were times
where one would go in and make a

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maneuver and go to the other side
and another one would do it. Yeah.

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I don't never heard anyone else see
anything like that. Interesting, And

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could you see any particular pattern it
was doing. Was it doing anything that

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would suggest it was a maybe communicating
or given a signal or some sort.

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You know. My whole impression the
whole time was it was kind of a

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show. It was just you know, what's it going to do next?

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And some things obviously they were repeated
where the lights went around and around,

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and I really wasn't feeling I was
getting a message or anything from it.

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Now. I didn't feel like and
I wasn't scared really, although for some

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reason I wanted to hold onto my
car, but I really didn't feel scared

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by it. I kind of just
always wondered, too, why did I

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get to see this? You know, what was this about? It bothers

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me? I kind of I just
want more information. And I'm going to

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talk a little bit more about that
because I did have a past life regression

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hypnotherapy session and I brought this up. But I'll get into that when I

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talk about the next thing I wanted
to talk to you about, because it'll

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kind of funnel into the story at
some point. Okay, And what kind

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of height would you say, if
you know, what kind of degree would

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you say it was? And did
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I know it stayed ahead of you, but did it roughly the same height

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when I first saw it? It
never moved, So for that fifteen to

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twenty minutes I watched, waiting for
someone else to drive by and see it

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with me. It never moved from
the position and sky it was. And

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then as I started to drive my
car, what I thought was kind of

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crazy was it still was the same
exact size the entire time I was driving.

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Now, you would think if I'm
moving on the street and it's up

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in the sky, it would be
in a different position. But that's why

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I kind of felt like it was
staying in front of me so I could

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keep seeing it because I was driving
real slow and staring out more than I

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was looking at the road. I
was staring at it, and it stayed

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the same. And then as I
started to head down the hill, that's

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when the trees kind of went in
front of it and I lost a little

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bit of sight of where it was
out in the sky. And it's really

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hard to say how far away it
was. I just I don't know.

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It was a dark night, just
dark night. I mean, it wasn't

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right about the car, I'll put
it to you that way. It was

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up in the sky somewhere, but
it wasn't tiny either. It was large

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in all. Honestly, let me
think about this, if I were standing

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and I held out in front of
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big it looked in the sky,
trying to think how big if I held

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something out in front of me,
how big of a circle it made.

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Pretty big? Actually I was pretty
big. I mean it was it took

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up It was a pretty big sized
circle. And I know that's hard when

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you say big what that means.
And like I said, I couldn't tell

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depth at all. That wasn't even
a possibility to see how close for far

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up in the sky it was,
you know, the size of a hula

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hoop, you know, regular hula
hoop. I would say if I held

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a hula hoop out in front of
me, it was a big circle like

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that. So it was pretty big. But you figure it was up in

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the sky, which made it bigger. But it was a big, nice

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big circle. Okay, so you're
looking at a big size, so I

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can certainly understand why you were.
You were holding onto your car for ground

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and something that big. Well,
yeah, it wasn't little. It was

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big, but it was crazy because
I didn't feel scared. You would think

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I would have felt scared, but
I was just more like, this is

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so cool. You know, I
was more into the excitement of seeing it,

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and it was like nothing I'd ever
seen before. And I knew it

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wasn't something from this earth. It
wasn't anything I could make a reference to.

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It was something very, very unique. And did you ever report this?

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Did you ever did? Well?
First of all, I called I

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think channel four news is around our
area. I called like a radio station

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and I wanted to tell someone about
it the next day, and they referenced

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me to a radio station where there
was a gentleman who would take reports.

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And I had to wait until Monday
for to be able to reach him.

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And I had called in the evening
and I reached this guy from the radio

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station who takes reports on unusual things, and he said, thank you very

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much. I'll, you know,
check some things in the area. I'll

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get back to you. And he
did call a few days later and he

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said, I'm just following up.
We don't you know. I checked.

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We don't have any reports of anything
in the area, so I really don't

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know what to tell you. It
sounds very unique. And that was the

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end of it. So I don't
even remember what radio station it was.

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And then move on became a thing
and some in like the years early two

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thousands. When I heard of move
On, I did make a report because

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I thought, well, hey,
you know, maybe somewhere along the way

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someone else saw something like this,
and I asked him, I said,

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if you find anything like the senior
files, let me know. But you

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know, I never heard back from
them, but I did make an official

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report with them, but it was
many years after it happened too, but

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it has tucked away and a move
Upon report somewhere. Yeah, it's always

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good no matter how historic the experience
was, it's always good to report it

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because you know, there's plenty of
researches that investigate in similar ones. Probably

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it may probably even in the same
area. So it's good to actually look

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back and go or hang on it
was the same thing which happened back in

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eighty nine or whatever. Yes,
so it does help. So I always

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say that if you haven't reported yet, report it. It doesn't doesn't make

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a difference how long ago it was. Yes, interesting, and you weren't

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scared, you were completely mesmerized.
Yeah, I didn't feel like anything bad,

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what's going to happen? I kind
of I do have a little bit

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of a you know, things will
kick in with me sometimes and I you

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know where you know, or I
should be a little cautious here. I

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didn't have any of those vibes coming
up from it. It was just I

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was just so excited to see something
so cool, and I wanted so badly

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for someone else to drive down the
street so I could point up and say

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stop, look at this with me. And yeah, today, with the

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cell phones, that would have been
no problem. I had taken videos.

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I gotta called people, you know, but I could call the police and

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said come and look at this with
me. But that was not the option

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back in those eighties. So yeah, sure wasn't. We didn't actually have

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phones until I think in over ten
years after that. It was a while.

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It was a while, alright.
What about sound. Do you recall

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any sound at all? Nothing silent? I heard nothing at all. Why,

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just a light show and that's it. No sounds of any kind.

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And was any light that was touching
any of the surroundings around you. No,

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No, it wasn't like light was
coming off of it. It was

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just I know what you're saying,
like beaming down. There was some light

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reflecting down. Now, huh,
it's just perfect circles lit up up in

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the sky, so self contained.
Okay, interesting stuff. Okay, would

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you like to move on now,
Sharon, Sure, Okay, this is

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going to be real interesting. So
when I was very young, and I

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have to say this is probably anywhere
between the ages of two, three and

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four, I was very little.
I used to go to bed first.

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Then my brothers, who were five
years and seven years older than I was,

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who were in school. I wasn't
in school yet, they would have

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to go get ready for bed,
and I know I was always the first

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one in bed. So once I
got to about kindergarten age or on five

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or six, I was allowed to
stay up later. And so I'm positive

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agewise this was in the ballpark of
two, three or four, and I

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want to say probably maybe closer to
three, because I was still pretty little

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when this happened. So I had
a scary dream one night, and in

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this dream, everything was pitch black. It was dark, I was my

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hands were up in front of me
and I couldn't see them, which was

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scary. And I was having trouble
breathing and I would inhale, and I

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was getting with every breath, I
was getting less and less air, and

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I was totally panicked, and I
just I knew I was going to die.

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There was no way whatever was happening
to me. I didn't think I

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was going to make it. And
so I woke up in bed and the

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first time I remember this, I
was actually sitting up in bed and my

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hands were like right around my throat, and I remember taking a big breath

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when I woke up, and it
was I'm fifty three and I still remember

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this. That's how big of an
impression this made on me. And I

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remember going, oh, and I
woke up and I'm like, oh my

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gosh, I'm breathe, you know, And it was scary. So I

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went downstairs to tell my mom that
she was in the living room, and

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I'm you know, crying and telling
her about this. And I could see

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that I scared her when I told
her, and she was just, you

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know, oh, it's a bad
dream. I'll come up. I'll put

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you back to bed. And I
felt bad that I scared her because I

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could tell, you know, her
seeing me so scared and upset upset her.

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So then this happened not night after
night, but it happened every so

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often, you know. It ended
up becoming a recurring dream. I would

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say for maybe at least six months, I probably dreamt this gosh a dozen

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or more times. So then every
time i'd have the dream, though,

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it seemed almost like after a while, I got farther into it, got

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closer to death, I got closer
to having less and less air, I

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got closer to realizing this is it, you know. So I think as

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I became more comfortable with it,
I was being taken further through what was

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going on. And I have no
idea how I could be that young,

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but I knew wholeheartedly, deep down, from somewhere within, that is how

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I died in a previous life.
I didn't even know anything about previous lives,

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but I knew it. I just
knew it. So after I would

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have these dreams, they became less
scary because I got used to having it.

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And then i'd wake up and I'd
lay there and I'd think, Wow,

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I wonder how I died. Maybe
I'd drowned. No, if I

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was drowning, i'd fill water and
I would think through all these scenarios,

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and I thought, was did someone
murder me? Did they put their hands

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around my neck and choke me to
death, and that's why I couldn't breathe,

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and I'm like, no, I
don't feel like someone was choking me.

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And I finally started thinking maybe I
choked on something and it was stuck

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in my throat and I couldn't breathe, and then I thought maybe it was

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asthma, and then I finally just
settled on I think I died from asthma

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because my throat felt I could feel
something in my throat and it wasn't really

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food. It was just kind of
getting raspier or something. And as I

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kept inhaling, and I wasn't having
trouble inhaling, so that led me to

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believe I didn't have something stuck in
my throat. I think I just had

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an asthma attack and died. And
that's kind of how how I settled in

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on. I think I died from
an asthma attack in a previous life,

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and the last time I had the
dream and the final time I actually started

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to experience the last breath I took
and my soul leaving my body, and

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I got close to that in previous
dreams, but never where it was just

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I just let go and just said, I know this is it, this

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is it. I can't I couldn't
get any more air. I was starting

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to kind of blackout, and I
knew I was going to die, and

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I was okay with it. I
was actually at peace because I knew it

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was coming. So I took that
last breath and I started to come out

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of my body into just and it's
so hard to describe into warmth and love

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and a feeling of yeah, I'm
going home. I'm going home. This

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is great. I just was just
leaving my body and it was just wonderful.

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It felt great and boom, just
that quick I woke up. But

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that split second of all those feelings
of this is what happens when you die.

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We're so peaceful and so euphoric and
wonderful, and I remember thinking,

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wow, I'm not going to be
afraid to die, and that has stuck

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with me so solidly. It's just
an experience I'll never forget. I've never

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felt anything like that feeling. When
I say euphoria. You know, there's

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things in life that make you feel
good and everything, but nothing compares to

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this. It was just so wonder
it was just awesome. And I remember

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after I woke up, I thought, no, I want to feeling that,

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and I just have a complete comfort
level with accepting I'm gonna die.

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I'm not afraid when it's meant to
happen. When my souls had its journey

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and it's at the end, I'm
okay with it. I don't have any

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fear. And I know it was
that recurring dream and that experience that brought

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me to feel that way. So
now we're going to flash forward to Oh,

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and I didn't tell my mom.
In fact, I didn't tell anyone

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about that. That just kind of
stuck with me and I really didn't talk

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about it. There was really no
reason too. So now we're going to

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go to where I'm twenty five years
old. I worked with a girl who

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kind of was into going to see
psychics and things. So in our area,

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there was a sign that pops up
in a yard and it says Terrat

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Card Readings. You know, call
this number. So I had seen it

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many times. I drove by it, and she said, Hey, I'm

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going to call that number. Do
you want to go get a reading done

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sometime? And I said sure,
I'll go with you, you know.

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So it was twenty five dollars and
we made appointment at lunch one day,

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we decided to each spend our lunch
going together and get the readings and everything.

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And it was a Romanian family and
the young girl was right around my

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age actually, and that was going
to do my Teret card reading. And

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she was really interesting and she said, we're from Romania, had an accent

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and everything, and they're very beautiful, beautiful women, those sisters and the

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mom. They were so pretty.
And she said, all everyone in our

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families had this gift for you know, many many generations, and we teach

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each other, you know, and
everyone has this wonderful gift. So at

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any rate, the reading was pretty
spot on about a lot of things.

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I mean it, she definitely had
some valid things that she was telling me

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and I could actually say I was, you know, pretty cool. So

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then then she talked to my friend
about getting a past life reading guy,

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and my friends said, yeah,
I want to do it. And I

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thought, well, that's a waste
of money. It was forty dollars And

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I thought, you could make up
anything. Why would you get to past

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life for you? And I said, you're throwing your money out anyone.

412
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.640
It was a good actor could make
up all kinds of crazy stuff on the

413
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.279
spot, and I just think it's
a waste of money. It can't be

414
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:08.759
proven. I'm not doing it.
So she went and did it. And

415
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.240
after she did it one day,
she says, let's have lunch after and

416
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.480
I'll tell you what she said and
everything she told her. I have to

417
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.039
admit, if she just made that
up out of the blue and said it

418
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:22.720
to me, it had no relevance
to me or in my life whatsoever.

419
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.960
But it really made sense and hit
a lot of chords with my friend.

420
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.599
So now I'm intrigued. There was
some meat stuff that she had said,

421
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.680
and I thought this is pretty wild. So I said, well, someday

422
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.079
when i've extra money, which probably
is never going to happen, you know,

423
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:37.599
I'll go get it done for forty
dollars. And here I was in

424
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.720
sales and I had a big commission
check coming, and she reminded me,

425
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.200
hey, you're going to have the
money, go get the reading done.

426
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:49.039
So I went and did it.
So many things that this girl had told

427
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:55.400
me kind of they were spot on
in line with me. And I'm going

428
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.319
to give you a couple that are
really kind of crazy, she said,

429
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.039
crazy in a good way. She
said in this life you're in now,

430
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.880
you're adopted. Now, how many
people can you say that too in a

431
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.440
reading? Yeah, I'm sure it
doesn't apply to a ton of people,

432
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:17.200
only to some. And she's correct. I am adopted. And she said,

433
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.839
in your previous life, your parents
were your biological parents. You've been

434
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.440
brought together again in this life,
but they're not your biological parents, but

435
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:32.599
they're they're same souls of your parents. And she said, in that past

436
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:37.359
life they had to bury you in
this life and they had to bury you

437
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:44.319
as a child to pay off their
karmic death. And in this life you

438
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.640
will get to have the life that
you wanted, which is where you bury

439
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:55.200
your parents. And you know they
are not your biological parents though, And

440
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:57.319
that's crazy, because that is very
true. And I said, wow,

441
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:02.440
I said, it's amazing you could
say that. You are right, I'm

442
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:06.079
adopted. I said, but I
want to touch on something you said.

443
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.400
I said, you know, you
said I died as a child. Can

444
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.759
you tell me anything about that?
And now I'm already thinking, huh,

445
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.799
I wonder if this is the life
before this one where I had that recurring

446
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:15.799
dream. But I didn't say anything. I just said I want to know

447
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:21.960
what you see. And she says
to me, I can see it's pitch

448
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.559
dark. I can see your hands
in front of your face. You can't

449
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.799
see them. It's almost like she
was reading my mind. And she said,

450
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.839
you're very scared. You're having trouble
breathing. There's a fire, which

451
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.160
I never once thought of. And
she says, you're you die from the

452
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:42.400
smoke and inhalation of the smoke,
and that's how you passed. And I

453
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.759
was like, oh my gosh,
I said, I can't believe you're telling

454
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.680
me this. I had a reoccurring
dream as a kid, and all these

455
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.240
years I thought it was an asthma
attack because I was getting less and less

456
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.759
oxygen. And she says, no, it was a fire, but your

457
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:59.759
body didn't burn in the fire.
So now like I'm in there are people

458
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.400
that or gifted, because how could
she know that? That was amazing.

459
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.799
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462
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463
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But then as time goes on and time

466
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.200
goes by, you start thinking,
wow, how did she really know that?

467
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:56.960
Then I start doubting again. Now
then you know, when time goes

468
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.000
by, you're just like, wow, she really right? I don't know.

469
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.920
So then I worked I'm a teacher
and I worked in a school and

470
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:08.799
one of my friends, who was
another teacher there, had a wonderful psychic.

471
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.559
This guy you want to talk about
someone that's the real deal. He

472
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.920
was so good. He read off
of metal. So if I had a

473
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.880
key or I had jewelry, he
would rub it and get impressions. And

474
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.079
he was just awesome. And I
had a number of readings through the years

475
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.359
from him, and he was just
really amazing with his ability. He had

476
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:36.279
these crystally beautiful eyes that it just
they were so unique. You know,

477
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.920
he kind of looked if you you
know, and I've heard people say the

478
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.000
aliens live among us, Well,
you know what he had that look like,

479
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.920
he had a unique look as a
human being. He stood out,

480
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:52.480
you know, and like I said, very kind, well spoken, gifted,

481
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.440
used his gift to help and heal
people. It's just really nice.

482
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.359
So the first reading I had from
him, I was going through a tough

483
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.240
time in my life and it was
really nice. It gave me hope.

484
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.519
What the things he told me,
you know, I was going to come

485
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.119
out of this dark time and where
I was just having a lot of sadness

486
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.160
and things. At the end of
the first time he ever did a reading

487
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.920
with me, he said, is
there do you have any questions? Is

488
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:15.960
there anything you want to know about
my side? Do have a question?

489
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:22.680
I said, I had this reoccurring
dream as a child, and I'm wondering

490
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.400
if you can tell me anything about
that or hone in on that and let

491
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.839
me know what you think. He
goes, Okay, hold on and I

492
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.200
never said past life. I said, just a reoccurring dream as a child.

493
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:36.240
I left it at that, and
he says, Okay, I see

494
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.200
you can't breathe. I see your
hands around your neck. You can't get

495
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.400
any air. It's getting worse and
worse, and that you know, he

496
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:49.720
says, you're in a colder state
like Maine, Massachusetts something with an M.

497
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.839
There's cold water. You're up a
little farther in the states. And

498
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:57.480
he said it wasn't even that long
ago. And he said, you were

499
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.759
a child around the age of twelve
give or tame a like a young teen,

500
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.519
and you were on the second floor
of a house and there was a

501
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.079
fire and your body didn't burn,
but you died in the fire from the

502
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.559
smoke. Now that was it.
That's like a mic drop moment, as

503
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.559
they say, I've had this.
Now so many details of that confirmed by

504
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.720
two people with psychic abilities. It
just it floored me. And I know

505
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.279
what the experience was in my dream
that I had, so I just thought

506
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:29.880
that was amazing, and it just
goes to show you there's just so much

507
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:34.319
more out there. So now I
really started getting into wanting to learn more

508
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.759
about this whole past life thing,
and I got into a lot of reading

509
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.000
from Brian Weiss. Doctor Brian Weiss
was featured on Oprah. He's written many

510
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:47.000
books. He's a psychiatrist. He
graduated from Columbia University in Yale Medical School

511
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:52.759
and did not believe in past life
anything and what's amazing is that's how his

512
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.200
career started out, with patients that
when he did the hypnotherapy, they went

513
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:01.279
back to the time where their bias
started and it was like centuries ago from

514
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.599
past lives. And he's a real
interesting guy. If any I don't know

515
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.920
if you've heard of him or read
anything. He has many books now,

516
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:12.760
but it's Brian Weiss. He was
on Oprah Show several times and that's what

517
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.559
he does for a living past life
regression therapy. His books, i'll talk

518
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:22.360
about reincarnation, future life regressions,
past life regressions, surviving after death,

519
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.280
what you know your soul? All
that so really really interesting. So I've

520
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:29.159
read a lot of his things and
I started to get more into this whole

521
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.559
like spirituality, and I just I
don't even have enough time in a day.

522
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.239
I'm always so busy to learn as
much as I want. I'm actually

523
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.960
looking forward to retiring some day so
I can really dive in. But just

524
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:43.440
so much of what I've read and
what I hear from other people, there's

525
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.320
so much more out there, you
know. There's just so much more to

526
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.599
life. And I truly believe that
our souls take a journey and this isn't

527
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.840
our first go around. Something interesting
along those lines are when I've seen different

528
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:57.280
psychics. I've seen a few.
It's not like I've seen a million of

529
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.840
them, but when i've seen some, they've always said to me, you're

530
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.039
an older soul. You know,
you're you're farther along in your journey.

531
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:07.199
You're you're getting up there. And
they've mentioned that My daughter and I are

532
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:12.800
very connected. We have traveled many
lives together and we have a very deep

533
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:17.000
connection. So to get into this
next part of past lives, I've talked

534
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.039
to my daughter a lot about this
kind of stuff and said, oh,

535
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.599
you know, apparently we're we're pretty
tight hair, We're pretty connected, and

536
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.239
you know, we've talked about how, you know, I believe souls take

537
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.960
a journey, which is very different
from the Catholicism that my whole family's into.

538
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.719
And my parents believe, you know, my dad's being you're going to

539
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.760
heaven or how when you die?
That's it black and white. If you're

540
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.760
not Catholic, well then you're going
to hell. You know, they're they're

541
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.280
just so set in their ways.
It was drilled into them as kids.

542
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.440
But I have a very different take
on all of them. And this next

543
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.519
part of the story with past life
experiences is when my daughter was twelve,

544
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:58.400
and I don't want to really tell
her business, but this one part I

545
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:04.039
have to say. She had a
major There was a traumatic event that happened

546
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:09.239
that sparked this fear of leaving me. She had like a separation anxiety that

547
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:13.719
started. And there's a kind of
a story around and it all has to

548
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.440
do with her business and the traumas
she suffered. But what happened was she

549
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.119
didn't want to leave me. She
had a big fear that if she's not

550
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:22.400
with me, something might happen to
me, and she didn't want to be

551
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.440
alone without me. Didn't want anything
to happen when I wasn't there, and

552
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:31.119
it was caused me to make some
big changes in my life. We had

553
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:35.880
to change her school. It was
a big deal, and it didn't seem

554
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.920
after so many months to be getting
better, and I really didn't know what

555
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:45.559
to do. So someone had mentioned
to me, you know, they knew

556
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:51.880
somebody whose child had separation anxiety,
and they went to a regression hypnotherapist and

557
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.119
they gave me the name of the
gentleman. His name is Michael Weir,

558
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:59.639
and he lived out around the Pittsburgh
area, and so I made an a

559
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.079
point to go see him, and
I said, I'd like to see if

560
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.320
you can get to the bottom of
what's going on with my daughter. Maybe

561
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.400
if we can find the root of
this, maybe it's rooted to a past

562
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.239
life. I don't know, maybe
that would help her. I don't know

563
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.840
what to do, but someone told
me it was helpful with their child,

564
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:16.039
so I'm going to give it a
shot. And he's like, oh,

565
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.400
absolutely, and yes there can be
connections, and I know who you're talking

566
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.159
about, and it did make a
big difference in that child's life and they

567
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.920
were able to get past it.
So I'm all in. I'll help you

568
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.480
out whatever I can do. I
said, And while we're at it,

569
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.199
I would really like to see if
you could give me a past life regression

570
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:36.800
too, I said, I kind
of want to go back into past lives,

571
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.360
but even more importantly, I want
to go back to something that happened

572
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:43.719
in this life when I saw something
in the sky. So the first thing

573
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.039
to me was I really wanted to
see if I could hone in a little

574
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:52.480
more on that whole UFO sighting and
just find out why I just I don't

575
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:53.880
know. I just want to know
more about it. So I thought,

576
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.400
maybe if he regresses men I can
talk about it, maybe I'll get something

577
00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.639
more out of it than I can
remember. It was so long ago.

578
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.000
So we go to see him,
and my husband and I not my daughter's

579
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.880
father, but the because we were
divorced, so there was another man.

580
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.039
In fact, I don't even think
we weren't even married at the time,

581
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.079
come to think of it, we
were just dating. But we went in

582
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.559
and the gentleman Michael was very professionally
showed us the room he was in a

583
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.559
it's in a house where his office
was. So he takes us in the

584
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:24.840
room and there's a nice recliner and
a couch and at desk, and he

585
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:29.199
says, I'm gonna sit over here, and you know, my daughter would

586
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.639
be in the recliner. And he
says the Holy Spirit helps him with his

587
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.920
messages and kind of explained his process
and everything. And so I said,

588
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.840
are you okay with this? Do
you want me to stay here? Is

589
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.079
I going to mess you up to
my daughter? You know? Do you

590
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.800
need to focus? And she was
like, no, I'll be okay,

591
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.519
I'll be okay. She goes,
I really want to stop feeling like this.

592
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.440
I'll be good. So then my
boyfriend and I were sitting out in

593
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.559
the living room just kind of waiting, and not very much time went by,

594
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.920
and all of a sudden, she
comes walking out and she says,

595
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.760
hey, Mom. He says he
needs you to go in there, and

596
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.559
I'm like, oh, are you
done? Did it work? He says,

597
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.400
She goes now, And then at
this point he's walking out and he

598
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.840
said, my guides are telling me
that I really need to regress. You

599
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.000
and your daughter can witness it and
be there to experience it, but the

600
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:21.159
actual experience of what's going to happen
with the regression really needs to be you.

601
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.039
And I thought, are you kidding
me? Oh? I thought,

602
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.480
okay, if that's going to help
her, I'll do it now. I

603
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.800
am a type a personality. I'm
very much I like to be in charge.

604
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.280
I like to run things. I'm
not a control freak. But I

605
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:38.719
just am a person who if you
give me a job to do, I'm

606
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:42.760
going to do it really well the
first time. I'll admit when I'm wrong,

607
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.079
I'll fix what I need to fix, you know, go go go

608
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.199
all the time. And I'm also
a little on the high strung side,

609
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:53.519
and that kind of hurts me with
wanting to meditate, because my mind just

610
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:57.360
doesn't shut down. I always have
it to do list going around and around

611
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.320
in my mind. So I've tried
to meditate and it's either I sit there

612
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:04.840
and I think about things and then
something will pop in my head. Oh,

613
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.320
I totally forgot this. I got
to write it down. It ruins

614
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:08.880
the meditation because not to go get
a pen and paper write something down.

615
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.079
I don't want to forget, or
I fall asleep, or I meditate,

616
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.159
I'm thinking, next thing I know, I wake up and I had just

617
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.039
had a nap, and I'm like
that, you know. So I struggled

618
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:21.039
to meditate. So I'm a little
concerned about being put under two because I

619
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.039
keep thinking, I don't know if
my mind's going to give into hypnotherapy.

620
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.599
Honestly, I knew it was going
to be a struggle to get me to

621
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:31.239
relax enough to possibly have an experience. So I was really struggling with that.

622
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:36.800
And now I didn't mind if I
was struggling with that and not able

623
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.239
to make it happen, to find
information out for myself to go back and

624
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:45.119
think about a UFO siting or past
life. I now had the pressure of

625
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.039
I have to make this work because
it's going to benefit my daughter and see

626
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.760
for me go put even more pressure
on me than oh my gosh, Now

627
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.119
I really have to make sure I
relax and get get into this meditative hip.

628
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.559
If not a state or you know, some good come out of it

629
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.480
for my daughter's sake. So that
kind of started stressing me, and I'm

630
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:06.599
trying to stay calm. So now
we get into the room and he said,

631
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.880
can I video this? And he
has a recorder there. He says

632
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.559
that, yeah, I kind of
like to tape it if you're okay with

633
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:14.280
that. I'm like, yeah,
that's fine. And he said you'll remember

634
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:16.679
everything. It's not like you're gonna
have blackout sessions and not know what you

635
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.679
did or said. He said,
you know the people that go through it

636
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.159
in the therapy. Because that kind
of freaked me out too. I didn't

637
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:23.920
know much about it, and I
thought, oh gosh, I hope I

638
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.519
don't, like, you know,
think I'm napping and I'm sitting there blabbing

639
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.880
about who knows what. So I'm
trying to go under. I'm trying to

640
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:36.719
go under. I'm struggling. I'm
really struggling to quiet my mind and do

641
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.280
this. Forty minutes later, at
one point we had to take a break.

642
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:40.800
I said, I just don't know
if I'm going to be able to

643
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:44.639
do this, and he says,
well, my GUIDs are saying you will,

644
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:46.719
you know, kind of like you're
gonna you know, you'll be able

645
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.559
to I'm like, all right,
all right, So now I'm like praying

646
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:52.880
a little bit in my head.
I'm like, please, everybody, you

647
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.079
know, help me get to where
I need to be to help my daughter

648
00:41:55.159 --> 00:42:00.280
and get to the state. And
it was a solid forty minutes or so.

649
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:05.280
I finally, you know, I'm
relaxed. My mind is not bouncing

650
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:07.920
around as much as it was.
I'm starting to actually feel like, okay,

651
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:14.360
you know, I'm doing it and
nothing's happening. So, you know,

652
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.239
I'm like relaxed. Now, I'm
ready to go out and nothing's happening.

653
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.559
And then just that quick I started
to think, well, I guess

654
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:23.880
we're gonna have to call this a
wrap. And just as I'm thinking I

655
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:29.400
don't think this is gonna work,
boom it was. And I guess this

656
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.880
is what a vision's like for someone
because I've never had anything like this before

657
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.800
or after. My eyes are closed
and like a little circle opens up into

658
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.039
like what appeared to be like an
oval where I could see and this is

659
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.719
what I saw. And it all
happened very quickly though too, so like

660
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:49.679
yeah, the oval opens up and
now I put my hands are out in

661
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.079
front of me. I could see
that I'm black. It looked like I'm

662
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.599
on the planes, and my skin's
real, real dark. And I have

663
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.639
a little child in front of me
that was probably eight or nine years old,

664
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.039
bald head, little black child.
I honestly don't know if it was

665
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.599
a boy or girl. However,
I knew it was my child, and

666
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.440
that I knew, so I'm like, that's my child. There's me and

667
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.559
I could see my hands, and
there were trees around, but it was

668
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:19.559
kind of like dirty, like a
dirty just all dirt and then like some

669
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.320
trees and some things. And as
just as I'm starting to realize, oh,

670
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.519
I think we're black and we're in
Africa, you know, and I'm

671
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:31.199
kind of making heads or tails of
what I'm looking at, just that quick

672
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:37.039
a lion comes from kind of behind
me. I didn't see it. All

673
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:44.880
I know is this big paw comes
around and it's a body hits me,

674
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.719
and the paw with the nails they're
going into my chest, but I don't

675
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.679
feel pain. I feel them actually
going into my chest. I feel the

676
00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:00.519
jaw around my neck and my head
and it starts biting into me, and

677
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:05.079
I can feel all this and it's
taken me down like it was all like

678
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.639
zoom. The thing jumped on me, it bit me, it put its

679
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.320
claws into me, and it was
taking me down to the ground. And

680
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:14.880
as I'm falling to the ground.
Now, the crazy thing about this was

681
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:22.719
I couldn't smell anything, I couldn't
feel pain, but I felt I saw

682
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.960
the paw and you know, it
was definitely like a lion and the fur.

683
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.840
I could see that all around.
I could feel it biting through my

684
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:34.639
head like it was literally detaching my
jaw from my head. As it was

685
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.199
biting my jaw off my face,
it was going into my neck. I

686
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.679
could feel all that without pain.
But I knew what was happening. I

687
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:44.719
knew I was dying, that I
was going to die like I was it.

688
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:46.239
I was getting mauled by this line. I was going to die.

689
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:51.679
And as I'm falling to the ground
and this is happening. I can see

690
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.119
my child, who was only a
few feet in front of me, looking

691
00:44:54.199 --> 00:45:00.320
at me with the most fearful expression, and I quickly was thinking, too,

692
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.920
this is it, because I knew
not only am I gonna get it,

693
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.599
my child's gonna get eaten by this
thing too. I knew that this

694
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.920
was it for both of us.
And it was all within like all these

695
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:15.599
thoughts fled your mind, and just
as I have the thoughts, boom,

696
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:21.679
that oval like circle closed up into
a little hole, and boom, everything

697
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:27.880
was black. And it was just
a few seconds that I had that experience.

698
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.480
I'm just like like that vision and
the feelings and all that was going

699
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:37.079
on, and the gentleman Michael were
he was trying to bring me too.

700
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.840
I'm starting to come too, and
I'm starting to process everything I just you

701
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:49.000
know, saw and experienced. My
face is what through I start tears were

702
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.280
pouring out of my eyes, just
pouring it, like my daughter was kind

703
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:53.159
of scared, just like, Mom, are you okay? Are you okay?

704
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.880
And I opened my eyes and just
like, oh my gosh, like

705
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:02.320
I had to take a while to
get my self to stop crying and be

706
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:06.840
able to explain it, and in
the end I finally was able to explain

707
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.960
to them the whole thing and what
I experienced, and it was kind of

708
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.679
I think what we got out of
it was my daughter and I were together

709
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.199
in a past life and I was
taken right in front of her. What

710
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:24.519
a traumatic thing for child to see
and to know you're like losing your parents.

711
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.079
I think she was probably getting next, but I don't know it.

712
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.559
Never we never got to that point
because she said to me, well,

713
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.119
maybe I got away, maybe I
saw you die and I got away,

714
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.000
And I said, I remember thinking, as I'm going down to the ground

715
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:38.960
here next, But who knows.
We don't know that far into it.

716
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:43.840
But it gave her an eye something
to talk about. And I said to

717
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.039
her, I need you to see. It's crystal clear to me, and

718
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:51.719
I hope that I can make this
clear to you. We are together.

719
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:58.000
We are connected. Our souls have
that connection. We were obviously. Maybe

720
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.519
I was taken from you in that
life. Maybe you did run away and

721
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:04.119
you managed to not get killed,
But did you see our souls are still

722
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.039
together. Here we are again.
And I think that was the point of

723
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.920
this, to let you know this
anxiety you have when you're not with me,

724
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:14.800
that I might die and you'll never
see me again or be with me

725
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.039
again. That's not the case.
And that kind of started my daughter's spiritual

726
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:24.440
journey too because of that experience.
And I do see why now that the

727
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:29.840
guides told Michael to have the mom
experienced that, because that might have been

728
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:34.320
too much for my daughter to go
through, because maybe for her too of

729
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.000
experienced watching me get mad. How
is that going to help her? What

730
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.239
separation, anxiety and me getting killed? It was. I think I understood

731
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:45.280
after it was all done why his
guide said no, have your mom come

732
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:49.960
in because I needed to be the
one that went through it. It was

733
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:58.519
absolutely profound and it's on video somewhere
in his library, but it was quite

734
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:01.559
amazing. And so I've never ever
had a vision, that is I'm guessing

735
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:05.920
what visions are like from what people
describe. They can see something happening,

736
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:08.519
and you know, you might not
get all the senses from it. Thank

737
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.480
God, I didn't feel the pain
for me, because I'm sure that was

738
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:15.039
very painful, but it was sure
scary and it was so gross because I

739
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:21.480
could feel this thing biting my face
apart. It was just crazy, so

740
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.079
I, as far as past lives
go, I'm very much a believer.

741
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:30.320
And then I have one other little
thing regarding the whole past life thing.

742
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.280
There's a real nice lady. She's
an older lady. She's been doing readings

743
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.639
for a long time, and the
people that I worked with would go to

744
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:43.880
her a lot, and so they
said, you gotta come see this woman.

745
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.760
She's pretty cool. And I didn't
like where I was working. I

746
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:46.760
was looking for a new job,
and I thought, oh, maybe she'll

747
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.039
give me some help. I'm getting, you know, out of where I'm

748
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.880
working. I wasn't really happy there. So I went to see her,

749
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:58.679
and absolutely she said I was going
to have another job doing the same thing

750
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.239
I'm doing, just somewhere better.
It was going to be more money and

751
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:05.239
I'd be a lot happier. That
was nice to hear. She also tells

752
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:09.400
me once again, I'm an older
soul and that my daughter and I are

753
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:14.199
very connected. Now I've heard this
so many times. I am a true

754
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:17.360
believer. There's a big connection there
between us. And then I said to

755
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:20.599
her, Hey, I have a
question for you. Now, this is

756
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.920
the third time I'm trying to get
some validation. I said, I had

757
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.239
a reoccurring dream as a child,
and I'm waiting to see what she's saying

758
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.400
about it. And she closes her
eyes and she's thinking, and she says,

759
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:35.159
yes, yes, you were.
She said, you were, you

760
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.280
know, anywhere around ten eleven to
twelve. Okay, So now she's in

761
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.320
that time frame that George had told
me the other psychic, and she said,

762
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.480
she said, it was not that
long ago, probably eighteen hundreds,

763
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:51.840
early nineteen hundreds, and she said
there were people that were going around and

764
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:57.840
killing people in their homes and taking
things and burning their houses down. Now

765
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:01.840
this gets real interesting. Says to
me, they came into your house.

766
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:07.719
And she said you were shot,
but you didn't die from the shot.

767
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.559
And she said, I want to
say sibling. Maybe, She says,

768
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.960
your daughter in this life was with
you in that life, and both of

769
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:21.800
you were shot, and neither one
of you died from the bullets that shot

770
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:25.039
you. But the fire from the
house is what killed you. It was

771
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:29.119
the smoke that killed you. And
she said, and you know something,

772
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.039
She said, you were shot somewhere, like around here, and she's pointing

773
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:37.480
like her stomach inside area and she
said, like right in this area.

774
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:38.880
And it wasn't enough to kill you. It was just one bullet, but

775
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:42.960
you know you didn't get out of
bed, and you died from the fire.

776
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:50.519
She said, you have a little
birthmark that is white and circular where

777
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.679
that bullet went through you in your
past life. And she said, and

778
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:59.760
your daughter has one. Two Now, I wish I could show you.

779
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:06.360
I have had since I was little, this little circle, white birthmark on

780
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:07.920
my skin. And I remember at
when I grew up, I would ask

781
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.480
my mom what's this from? What's
this from? She's like, I don't

782
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:15.199
know, you always have that.
When my daughter was born, she also

783
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.199
has when it's not in the exact
same place, but it's also in the

784
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:24.880
vicinity. Hers is a little smaller
than mine, but we both have white

785
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:32.159
birthmarks that are circular in like our
stomach side areas. And she said that

786
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.559
is from your That is a wound
at both of you had in a past

787
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:42.159
life. Now, I have to
tell you there's nobody on this earth that

788
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:46.360
can tell me that this stuff isn't
real. I think I'm a person that

789
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:52.440
needs proof. And that was proof
positive for me that one really took the

790
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:54.039
cake, so to speak. When
she told me about that, and the

791
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:58.239
fact that I physically have a scar
in this life. And I had from

792
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.320
reading past life books and watch TV
shows, I had heard of people who

793
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:07.599
had birthmarks from things that happened in
past lives, from ways that they were

794
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:13.079
like, you know, slain and
shot and things. So I had heard

795
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.119
of that before, but I couldn't
believe she said it to me. And

796
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.039
it is true. I have the
physical mark to prove it, and so

797
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:23.000
does my daughter. So that is
my past life regression. Those are my

798
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:29.760
experiences, and there I can only
say they're very profound. And through the

799
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:34.719
journey of many years of talking to
people that apparently are gifted to know things,

800
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.159
they all said the same thing.
No one deviated from that story.

801
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.599
In fact, I got more information
each time I asked about it. So,

802
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.920
you know, it's it's pretty crazy. Well, that was certainly interest

803
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:50.280
in Sharon. It's not just you
know, you had this this dream,

804
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:54.039
this memory. You then have confirmation
from from a couple of different psychics,

805
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:57.280
you know, and they were all
in roughly in the same area. You

806
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.800
know, they weren't vague about it. The only shame about it is that,

807
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:05.480
you know, if it'd probably been
within the last sixty seventy old years

808
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:08.440
and maybe some kind of record of
the death. You know, if you

809
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:13.239
know these guys going around killing people
and berts, setting fire to the houses

810
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.559
and robbing them for what, you
know, for whatever reason, they could

811
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.400
even be some kind of record of
it. Because you roughly know the roughly

812
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.719
know location, so main tuest kind
of area. You know your age as

813
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:28.320
well, so what ten eleven,
twelve or in that bullpark, so you

814
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:30.840
might even be able to dig something
up about that. At some point,

815
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:37.480
I'm probably going to have another regression
hypnotherapy session and I want to look into

816
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.880
that for sure, and maybe I
can learn more from it. It's pretty

817
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.159
cool though, I mean, how
about the one lady telling me my parents

818
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.559
in this life aren't my biological parents. That was an amazing thing to hear

819
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.639
because I was adopted, my brothers, we were all adopted, and it's

820
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.639
just wild that she could say that
to me. And like I said,

821
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:58.920
she couldn't have said that too many
people, I don't think. I mean,

822
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.159
it's not a common thing. No, I mean these days it's a

823
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:06.679
little bit different, but you know, it wasn't very common then. Yeah,

824
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:09.440
And then she talked about the karmic
retribution that my parents had to pay

825
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:13.320
by dealing with the loss of a
child, and then a lot of things

826
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:17.360
I've read that comes up over and
over again that you people have karma,

827
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:22.599
you know, karmic retribution, and
so that's an interesting topic too, and

828
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:28.480
definitely it should hopefully help to get
people to understand you need to live a

829
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:30.880
good life, you need to be
a good person, because when you do

830
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:34.400
bad things and you have this free
will to make a choice, if you're

831
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.840
choosing poorly and hurting people, it's
not good. We're not supposed to be

832
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.559
that way, and there's going to
be a price to be paid for that

833
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:45.159
somehow, some way along the line. Absolutely. My wife is Buddhist and

834
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:50.760
we talk about it's quite a lot
about karmic payback and all that kind of

835
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.800
stuff. I think it also when
it comes to religion. I think people

836
00:54:53.840 --> 00:55:00.119
that are religious and do good people
because they fear what might happen later on,

837
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:04.159
you know. I think it's better
if you know, if you're living

838
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.199
a life and you don't necessary are
good because you have to be good.

839
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:13.239
You're good because that's who you are, you know, that's that's your soul.

840
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:16.360
So I definitely do believe that.
I think you will pay things back

841
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:20.920
eventually in some form. If it's
not in this life, maybe not to

842
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:22.760
follow him, but you know you
will have to pay it back eventually.

843
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:28.760
Absolutely. Absolutely. Brian Weiss talks
about that in his book. Actually one

844
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.599
of the books I read it was
Many Lives, Many Masters, and he

845
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:37.159
discusses that topic two. It's pretty
interesting. So hopefully people are trying to

846
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:51.000
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for? Wake up to the strange. And I don't know if you have

859
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time for one last thing that happened
recently. This one's shorter, much shorter

860
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.840
story, and be my guest,
Sharon, I always have time. Oh

861
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:06.320
good, thank you. Okay.
So I'm a teacher in a high school

862
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:13.119
and I have some really wonderful co
workers and this was last year, so

863
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:16.400
it's twenty So in twenty twenty two, we had a student that graduated and

864
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:21.440
was shot and killed very shortly after
graduation, and it affected a lot of

865
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:27.119
people in the community, a lot
of people in the school, and one

866
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.280
there were several teachers that were really
affected by One of our guidance counselors was

867
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:35.159
extremely close to this student, so
it really really hurt a lot of people

868
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.320
when it happened. So that happened, I have summertime right after graduation.

869
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:44.679
So now we're Thanksgiving, and this
was Thanksgiving last year, twenty twenty two,

870
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.320
and I've been very busy and I
haven't had a whole lot of time

871
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:52.000
to watch TV. But I heard
about this Netflix documentary called Surviving Death and

872
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.119
I wanted to see it. So
I thought, oh, we have some

873
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:58.119
extra time offer on Thanksgiving, I'm
gonna make a point to watch. This.

874
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:00.280
First episode was awesome. I of
the second one. I like third

875
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:06.800
one. The second third were about
mediums and they were good, but it

876
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:10.719
was really deep, going into like
the plasma stuff that comes. It was

877
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:14.760
just it was it was out there. I've heard about it, but it

878
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:16.280
was it was still intriguing, and
I was kind of looking forward to the

879
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:21.239
next episode that was called episode four
Surviving Death, and I thought, oh,

880
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:22.519
it's gonna be a good one,
you know. So I had finished

881
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:27.840
up episode three and started episode four, but it was now like after midnight.

882
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.320
I was starting to get tired and
I didn't want to fall asleep during

883
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:31.199
it. I thought I'll pick this
up in the morning, so I turned

884
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:34.719
it off and I go to bed. So I wake up in the morning

885
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:39.199
and it's kind of early and I
look at the clock and it's around seven,

886
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:40.760
and I'm like, oh, I
don't know if I feel like getting

887
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:43.480
out of bed. You know,
I love the weekend. I can sleep

888
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.920
in a little bit if I want. I just wasn't ready to get up

889
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.679
just yet. So I go back
into that state where I closed my eyes

890
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:52.679
to fall back to sleep, and
I wasn't out for long, because it

891
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.519
was seven fifteen. I actually did
get up, So in that fifteen minute

892
00:58:55.559 --> 00:59:00.719
time, I went into like a
little bit of that mildly sleepy state,

893
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:02.920
and I had a dream. And
in the dream, I'm sitting at my

894
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.480
desk at school and I'm working,
and my doors locked most of the time

895
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:09.519
because kids will just come popping in
whenever they want, so you kind of

896
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:12.559
have to keep your doors locked,
or you know, you might be in

897
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.679
the middle of instruction someone comes barging
in and kind of breaks that flow.

898
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.880
So my door was locked, and
all of a sudden, the young man

899
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:24.320
who had been shot to death after
graduation comes into my room. Now I

900
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:30.119
had never had him as a student, but a lot of his friends had

901
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.360
me, and so he had been
in my room. He knew my name,

902
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:36.960
I knew his name. We had
talked. I just didn't have him

903
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:38.760
in class all the time. I
knew who he was, so all of

904
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:44.039
a sudden, I don't hear the
door, but there he is walking around

905
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:46.679
the side to the front of my
desk, and I remember thinking, how'd

906
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.760
you get in here? I didn't
hear the door. And then when I

907
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:52.639
looked at who it was, you
know, he said, you know,

908
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:54.559
hey, and he said my name. I looked and I thought, oh,

909
00:59:54.599 --> 01:00:00.280
my gosh, you're dead. And
I knew he was visiting me being

910
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.280
from the other side, because I
knew, you know, he had died.

911
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.760
And he looks at me and he's
like, hey, how are you?

912
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.000
And I just kind of I didn't
even know what to say, and

913
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:10.519
he said hey, um, he
like, you know, he greeted me,

914
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:13.400
and I don't think I even said
anything. I think he just stared

915
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:15.079
at him because I wasn't shocked that
he was there, you know, and

916
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:19.559
I knew he was dead. And
then he said, can you do me

917
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:23.239
a favor? Can you tell and
he named one of our teachers and our

918
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:30.679
one guidance counselor. He said,
can you tell them that I am red?

919
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:37.360
And I looked at him, like, what you're red? And I

920
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:40.719
was very I thought, you want
me to tell them that, you know?

921
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:43.559
And in my head, I'm like, what does that even mean?

922
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:47.199
And I definitely didn't answer him.
I was like thinking, are you what

923
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:50.719
are you doing? And so then
he and he gets real serious and he

924
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:52.360
looks at me goes, I need
you to promise me you're going to tell

925
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:58.239
them this, and I said,
okay, I will boom just that quick.

926
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:00.360
I woke up and I'm like,
what the heck? Okay, So

927
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:04.800
now I see this, this young
man that has passed in my dream and

928
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:07.559
then he's telling me to tell two
people he's read. What does this mean?

929
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.119
So I'm laying there for a while, I'm thinking, well, he

930
01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:14.280
was shot. Is it something to
do with being bloody? And he's red?

931
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.360
And I thought, my gosh,
that's so morbid. I can't say

932
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:19.960
that to them. And so now
I'm like getting out of bed and I'm

933
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.840
all, you know, in these
thought processes of how am I going to

934
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.000
say this to them? Are they
going to think I'm crazy? Are they

935
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:30.679
going to say that's really morbid?
What's wrong with you? I was just

936
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:31.960
trying to think I was going to
handle this, and I thought I can't

937
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:35.559
not say anything because he came to
be in a dream and told me to

938
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:37.880
do it, and I felt like
I have to do this, but I

939
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:40.159
don't know how I'm going to do
this, and well, Mat and then

940
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.519
I started to talk myself into why. I don't think you would have had

941
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.800
me say it if it didn't have
meaning to them. So then I'm thinking,

942
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:50.199
saying he's read must mean something I
don't know about, and maybe it'll

943
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.119
make sense to them. Oh,
I can't believe I forgot the most important

944
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:57.360
part. He told me I had
to say it to them because it was

945
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.239
going to help them heal. Okay, so I totally forgot. I left

946
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:06.280
that out. I'm so sorry,
but that was the part that getting that

947
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:08.639
message and being told it was going
to heal somebody, I now feel like

948
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:14.239
I have to say something to them. But I was really perplexed as to

949
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:17.079
the words he wanted me to say, Like it's just kind of weird,

950
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:21.559
you know. So now I got
downstairs, I'm having breakfast, and I

951
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:23.599
just said, I'm gonna pick up
the show where I left off, and

952
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:27.519
I'm gonna eat my breakfast. So
I'm sitting on my recliner having breakfast,

953
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:30.760
and I'm watching the show and it's
a very very good show, and so

954
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:35.880
I get to the one show where
there's a husband and wife and they lost

955
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:39.159
a son right after he graduated from
college. She was in a car accident,

956
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:44.599
and in trying to deal with the
grief of this, the father was

957
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:50.920
getting messages from his son where he
could like hear him through his mind saying

958
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:52.599
things and he would write it down. And prior to that, he and

959
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.119
his wife had some signs, finding
coins and different things, and it's just

960
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.599
a really it was really neat to
see the signs they were adding from their

961
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:04.400
dead son. And so the husband
is doing these little writings, like writing

962
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:07.760
little letters, and he says to
his wife at one point, I have

963
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.320
to be making this up to try
to like maybe heal myself. Maybe this

964
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:15.559
is just my like subconscious or psyche
trying to help me cope with this.

965
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:20.760
And you know, he says,
I just I can't imagine, because he's

966
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:23.079
kind of a nonbeliever in this stuff, that my son's really coming into my

967
01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:30.000
mind and having me write these things
down. So then he is sitting down

968
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.280
to write again and he says to
his son in his mind, he's like,

969
01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:37.840
if this is real, if this
is really happening, if you're really

970
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:46.119
sending me messages tell me something I
can't possibly reason too. And he said,

971
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:51.519
loud and clear. In my mind, I hear him say, I

972
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:59.800
am read. Now I just about
fell off the chair. I just her

973
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:04.119
a student who passed away less than
a year ago, who just came to

974
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:08.960
me in a dream about forty five
minutes ago, tell me to pass that

975
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:15.599
message on to two co workers that
he has read. So I'm just in

976
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:17.519
awe that I just heard this on
the TV show. So now they get

977
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:21.199
more into it, where the husband
said to his wife, you know,

978
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.280
I don't know what this means.
He starts researching it, he's not finding

979
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:30.239
anything. Two weeks goes by,
there's a knock on the door and he

980
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.360
said, I'm at the point where
I'm thinking I can't make kids or tales

981
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:36.679
of any of this. At this
point. I'm probably just making this all

982
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:42.960
up in my head. And a
delivery comes and it is a painting and

983
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:46.960
there's a note with it, and
it was a mother of a boy who

984
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:53.039
was a classmate of their son,
and she said something like, you know,

985
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:55.320
I saw this painting. I bought
it for you. It's okay if

986
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.559
you don't want it. But I
felt compelled when I saw it that I

987
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:00.639
had to buy it for you,
so you know, she sent it to

988
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:05.400
them. And there's a note in
there from the painter that painted this painting.

989
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:13.960
And it's a beautiful painting of like
magentas and purples and reds, and

990
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:17.440
it looks like a soul kind of
going into heaven, is what the picture

991
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:23.760
looks like. The painting and the
card that the artist who painted it wrote.

992
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.360
And I had to write this down
from the story so I would get

993
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:32.159
it right. The artist says,
this story of magenta is connected to God's

994
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:36.719
mercy and hope. Magenta is the
color so close to the pure human soul

995
01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:42.039
that when a young person dies,
the pure love is released in this rosy

996
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:46.280
magenta color. That's the color young
people, young souls emit when they pass

997
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:50.559
prematurely, and it's the color of
communication from the dead to the living.

998
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:57.320
I have chills right now just telling
you this story, so now it's making

999
01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:01.519
sense to me. I watched it
several times and then I had to write

1000
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:06.280
it down, and I was so
excited. The one person in the building

1001
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:10.360
I'm not real close too, but
the one teacher I was, and I

1002
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:14.119
couldn't wait to call her and tell
her and I'm thinking, I'm gonna wait

1003
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:16.320
till it's a little later because it
was still kind of early on a Saturday

1004
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:21.280
morning here. And then I started
thinking about it. I'm like, he

1005
01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:26.440
wanted me to tell them this to
help them heal. I wonder if I

1006
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:30.719
can get a copy of this painting. So now I go on the internet

1007
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:32.840
and I start start searching, and
it really didn't take me too long,

1008
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:38.800
and I actually found the artist and
the painting, and I sent an email

1009
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:41.880
to the artist and said, could
I you know, I told the story

1010
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:45.519
and stuff I saw this on the
show. Do you have a copy of

1011
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:47.559
that painting I can possibly purchase from
you? I'd like to get two of

1012
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:53.440
them. I really feel this would
probably help these people, and it's just

1013
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:57.639
such an awesome story. I just
wanted to get the paintings. So she

1014
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.960
said absolutely, so in less than
two weeks, the paintings were sent.

1015
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:03.840
Now, I held off on telling
the two people at work about it until

1016
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:09.599
like the painting to back it up
and go with the story, and it

1017
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:15.119
was extremely healing for them. You
know. I think having the painting might

1018
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:19.119
have been something good too, because
for them to hear that he had a

1019
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:25.239
message for them from beyond was just
amazing. It made such a difference to

1020
01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:29.880
them, and then the painting to
help remind them, you know, yes,

1021
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:32.880
he's not here. We can't hug
him and you know, talk to

1022
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:36.079
him and be with him. But
he's he's right there on the other side,

1023
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:40.280
you know, and he doesn't want
you to live in pain and be

1024
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:45.159
upset about him. You know,
he's in He's in God's grace, is

1025
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.440
up in heaven. He's good,
you know, he was. He died

1026
01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:50.440
before his time. And the other
thing I thought was crazy about it was

1027
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:58.239
the parallel of a young man who
died like a week after graduation from college

1028
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:00.960
and this young man passed within a
week of graduating from high school. That

1029
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:04.559
parallel, too was a little bit. It's a coincidence, but it's an

1030
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:11.400
interesting coincidence. So it was really
really wild because, like I said,

1031
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.880
when I had that dream and I
heard that message, I couldn't make heads

1032
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.479
or tails of it. And then
he had to have known I was watching

1033
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:23.399
from the other side, that I
was watching that TV show and that was

1034
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:27.119
going to be the kicker that that
would make sense of it all. So

1035
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.960
that was a really unique experience to
have, and it brought healing to people,

1036
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.600
and it was from someone who gave
a message from beyond. So it's

1037
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:42.039
just amazing. You know, the
world is not what we just look around

1038
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.479
and see. There's so much more
to it. I really believe that there's

1039
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:47.399
more in the universe. There's just
so much more we all have to learn.

1040
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:51.359
At the end of that one,
isn't that great? I mean we

1041
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:56.239
say, you know, it's a
coincidence, but who knows. It's just

1042
01:08:56.359 --> 01:08:59.920
too many similarities. And the timing, you know, it's the timing was

1043
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:01.920
actually spot on. You can't And
I have to tell you too, that

1044
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:10.039
those two people were really struggling with
grief, so it really was an amazing

1045
01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:15.800
message for them and it really really
really is helping them still. So I

1046
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:17.399
think that that's the thing, isn't
I mean, he was good enough to

1047
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:20.079
come back, you know, he
didn't just leave. He came back,

1048
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:24.840
so they wouldn't you know, they
wouldn't struggle anymore. That's samsuly fascinating that

1049
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:28.119
is, And yeah, it is
a good show. I've not watched many

1050
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.720
episodes. I think the Junior Couple, I think it's done based on a

1051
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.640
book by Leslie Keane. I think
Surviving Death. Yeah, the first episode

1052
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:40.920
with all the people who experienced out
of body experiences where they died and then

1053
01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:45.279
they came back. It's a really
really neat documentary. It was really good.

1054
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:47.039
But I think it's crazy that he
had to have known. I was

1055
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:50.600
watching it that morning, and then
I am the kind of person who I

1056
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:55.119
don't know that everyone would just run
out and get a painting to go with

1057
01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:59.079
it. But as I was processing
the whole thing, and I was so

1058
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:01.119
excited to tell the one teacher I
was going to call, and I'm like,

1059
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:03.880
wait, a minute's too early.
And then as I continued to think,

1060
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:06.319
I thought, wouldn't that painting be
nice for them to have? It

1061
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:11.399
was nice for the husband and wife
to have, And that a little bit

1062
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.039
extra time before I made that phone
call played out nicely too, because then

1063
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:17.479
that idea popped in my head,
and I really think that was a healing

1064
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.760
thing for them as well, and
it just made it all the better of

1065
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:26.840
an experience for them. I actually, when I told them, I played

1066
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:31.600
that part of the show so that
they could hear it and see the story

1067
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.640
the way it was told and how
I experienced it. When I was sitting

1068
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:39.119
there watching it, so it was
neat to take them through a little bit

1069
01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.520
of that journey of finding out what
that meant as I had it. And

1070
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:45.560
probably for them, you know,
that was like like blooms being lifted,

1071
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.239
I guess for them. So then
they were, you know, they're able

1072
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:50.840
to move on from it because I
think a lot of Pina. Obviously a

1073
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:54.239
lot of people do struggle, whether
it's you know, I loved one,

1074
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:57.359
a family member or a friend.
We do struggle, and I think we

1075
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:00.880
can hold that soul back. We
can kind of grind the soul back to

1076
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:03.760
us when really, you know,
we have to deal with it, grieve

1077
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:05.720
and move on because you know,
at the end of the day, that

1078
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.520
is what that person would want,
and then in turn they can carry on

1079
01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:14.439
and go and finish that journey.
I lost two friends a couple of years

1080
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:16.520
ago that I worked with I was
very close to. One was a sister

1081
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:20.680
soul kind of a person. We
just bonded like two sisters. I had

1082
01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:24.279
told her before she passed. Both
of them. Actually, I said,

1083
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:27.319
you better come to me in a
dream or something, just you know,

1084
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:30.520
give me a sign or come visit
me anytime. And it's funny they all

1085
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.479
said, oh, we definitely will, and they both did. I had

1086
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:39.079
dreams and my one friend she is
just gangbuster. She comes in a room,

1087
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:43.079
everybody knows that. She's just loud
and funny and the life of every

1088
01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:45.520
party. You just love to be
around. Or Sherry and the last dreams.

1089
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:49.720
I had three dreams with her,
and the last one I had I

1090
01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:53.079
kind of have a feeling it might
be the last one. But she I

1091
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:56.560
was teaching in a classroom and she
comes walking down the hall and I knew

1092
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:59.000
she was dead, and I'm like, oh my gosh. She came to

1093
01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:00.560
visit, Like what do you do
in here? She's like, Oh,

1094
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:04.159
I just have to tell you it's
great. You'll love it. This is

1095
01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:08.119
how she would talk to and in
her life. She's like, it's great

1096
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:10.920
on the other side, you're gonna
love it. No rush, but you'll

1097
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:13.279
love it when you get there.
And you know, we were laughing and

1098
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.600
it was just it was really pretty
cool. She's like, yeah, she

1099
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:20.359
goes, I saw everybody everyone in
my family that died. It's wonderful.

1100
01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:24.279
And she's she was just saying,
it's just it's great to be on the

1101
01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:28.159
other side. And it kind of
made me feel when I woke up from

1102
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:31.079
that dream that it made me happy. You know. She was so content

1103
01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:36.840
and in a good place. And
the other friend of mine had actually done

1104
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:41.640
she had sent signs to her kids
and her family too, and that one

1105
01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:45.800
little psychic lady I had seen.
The older lady, very kind soul.

1106
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:50.600
She gave me a message to give
to her husband and it was a little

1107
01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:53.680
saying and I had to write it
down. I wasn't going to remember.

1108
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.319
It was just some little saying I
wrote her on a piece of paper.

1109
01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:59.119
And then I had told her husband. This might have been three months after

1110
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:00.880
she passed. I said, hey, I saw this psychic and she told

1111
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:04.439
me your wife had a message for
you. And I gave him the paper

1112
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:06.640
and he read it. He started
to tear up. He says. We

1113
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:10.279
always said that to each other before
we went to bed. It was something

1114
01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:14.880
I didn't know anything about, and
that made him feel good. So I

1115
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:17.840
and you see these shows, the
psychic medium shows and stuff. It's very

1116
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:24.279
healing. I think for people to
have that validation that there's so much more

1117
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:27.079
out there, I think it really
helps a lot of people. I'll tell

1118
01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:30.279
you what, if I get a
choice in one of my future lives,

1119
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:32.159
I honestly believe I'd love to come
back as a medium and help people.

1120
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:36.960
I love being a teacher, I
love helping the students, Ive just helping,

1121
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:41.199
helping animals that are hurt like I
like to help. So, you

1122
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.399
know, maybe I am an older
soul and as I continue on my journey,

1123
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.840
I'm going to do more to help
people in different ways. But that's

1124
01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:50.880
kind of how I feel my journey
might be beheading just to do more help.

1125
01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:55.159
Well. Absolutely, I've certainly come
across him over the years. You

1126
01:13:55.199 --> 01:14:00.680
know, you've got medium and psychic
there to benefit you. Some pretty much

1127
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:03.960
flee su so always be aware and
if who you're dealing with, you know,

1128
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:06.840
just because there's a few fakes out
there, it certainly doesn't mean that

1129
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.359
the whole subject rubbish. It's just
unfortunately there are people which are always going

1130
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.760
to take advantage of you in pretty
much you know, kind of things really

1131
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:17.880
not just this, but just always
be aware, and it's always good to

1132
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:23.279
take advice of friends and family that
are visited. You know, always always

1133
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:26.560
get good reviews first. You know, it's not always going to be a

1134
01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:30.479
case where you're going to have cupboard
doors opening and closing and lights turn on.

1135
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:32.720
It's not always the way it is. Sometimes they will come to you

1136
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:38.760
in different ways and that could be
feelings and it can be dreams. And

1137
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:42.800
that is something I get time and
time again on my episodes, is it

1138
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:45.359
will necessarily be the main person's account, but it will be some of that

1139
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:48.800
people adding and whether it's a death
of a best friend, a family member,

1140
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:53.600
grandparent, even and where they come
in and visit in a dream.

1141
01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:56.159
And I've had it countless times.
My wife had it, you know,

1142
01:14:56.439 --> 01:14:59.840
she had a grandparent which came back
to her. So you know, they

1143
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:01.920
do visit, you know, and
they don't always come back the way we'd

1144
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:05.039
expect, but you know they do
visit the round us. I have to

1145
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:10.880
tell you, if you're really connected
with your cat, My one cat had

1146
01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:16.000
multiple strokes. It was the day
before Thanksgiving. This was in twenty sixteen.

1147
01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:21.439
Twenty sixteen, Yeah, yeah,
twenty sixteen. She was a Tonkanese

1148
01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:26.760
cat and she lived to be twenty
and I loved her so much, and

1149
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.119
I knew she was getting older and
it just so a lot of times when

1150
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:31.439
I would sit and watch TV,
she would sit up around my face and

1151
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:34.920
she had her own smell, like
I knew her smell and we had to

1152
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:39.399
put her down. She was after
the strokes that she had. You know,

1153
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:41.359
we waded through the night to see
how it was going to go,

1154
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:44.279
and she couldn't even stand up.
You know, it was bad. So

1155
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:47.039
we had to go to the emergency
vet on Thanksgiving morning and have her put

1156
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:51.039
down. I told her, I
said, I need you to send me

1157
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:54.880
a sign and let me know you're
on the other side with Bobo kiddie who

1158
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.279
died previously. That was her little
buddy. I said, I need you

1159
01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:00.039
to do that for me, okay, and you know, so we put

1160
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.520
her down. It was real sad. And then we were going to go

1161
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:05.640
to Thanksgiving dinner my sister in laws, and then we pushed it till,

1162
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:09.239
you know, a later time,
and I said, my husband, I

1163
01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.319
don't want to be in the house
right now anyway, so let's just go

1164
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:14.720
for just later. So I got
a shower, We're getting ready to go

1165
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:16.960
to Thanksgiving dinner. And we came
home. We bared the cat in the

1166
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:21.199
backyard and everything, and I just
finished my shower and I was getting ready

1167
01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:26.159
to step out, and I smelled
her, like she was right there in

1168
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.760
my face, and I like I
caught the smell of her, and it

1169
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:33.199
really caught me off guard, and
so then I did what anybody would probably

1170
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:38.000
do. Then, you like take
an intentional deep breath, you know,

1171
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:40.239
because that was just a regular breath, and I thought I smelled her,

1172
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:43.560
and I took in this real deep
breath and I could smell her. She

1173
01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:46.520
was right there. And then I
did it again, So that was three.

1174
01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:50.479
And then I couldn't smell her again. So I got three times where

1175
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:56.279
I was able to smell her.
It happened. Then it happened to me

1176
01:16:57.359 --> 01:16:59.800
at school when I was cleaning up
to come home. I was at my

1177
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:02.359
ask at school, and I smelled
her again three times, and then it

1178
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:05.119
happened a third time. I don't
what the number three means, but there

1179
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:08.760
must be some significance. And it
happened to me in my living room when

1180
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:11.560
I was cleaning once. And this
was all within probably the first two months

1181
01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:15.359
after she passed. And then it
didn't happen again. But even your pets

1182
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:18.800
contend your signs, They certainly can. You're not wrong. I am indeed

1183
01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:24.399
very connected with him. He's my
shadow. Absolutely, we go everywhere together.

1184
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:27.800
Ask him for a sign, you'll
get one. Yeah, it's usual

1185
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:30.000
hungry. He's usual very loving when
he's hungry. But you know, I

1186
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:36.119
lived in a very very haunted public
house. Now it was probably mentioned in

1187
01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:39.840
past episodes, but the place was
very haunted. I mean that was the

1188
01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:43.479
main reason why I was there,
because initially I was investigating the place and

1189
01:17:43.479 --> 01:17:46.039
I ended up moving in and living
there the whold duration of the investigation stuff.

1190
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:50.479
We had a psychic she's no longer
with us now, but this is

1191
01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:55.159
many years ago, back in the
midnights, and she would come with us

1192
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:58.760
on investigations and she'd do the you
know, the final clearing and you know,

1193
01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:00.159
all that kind of stuff. If
the spirit would want to go,

1194
01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:04.399
they didn't always want in mind,
and this one spirit we had there,

1195
01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:09.479
her name was Missy and she was
a landlady. And this is going back

1196
01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:14.439
several years. She was the manager
of this public house and she was very

1197
01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:17.720
fire conscious, so she would be
constantly making sure doors are closed. And

1198
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:21.920
it was a very old style English
pub, so we had the big fat's

1199
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:28.239
roof and roaring fireplaces and lots lots
of wood and brass, and at night

1200
01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:33.239
you would hear these big heavy door
slamming and lockingful while there's no one in

1201
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:36.920
the pub and they're already locked.
But you'd hear her all the time making

1202
01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:40.600
noise, and it was fine.
It was never a bad feeling. But

1203
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:46.760
also she loved cats, and she
had about eighteen nineteen cats. And you'd

1204
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:49.680
be in the bar and you'll be
closing. It wouldn't just happen a night,

1205
01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:53.960
it would happen all afternoon evening,
and you'll be in the bar and

1206
01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:58.119
you'll see shadows. You'll see shadows
going around your feet, your legs.

1207
01:18:58.479 --> 01:19:02.880
Oh wow, yeah, And I
said to the psychic lady more than she

1208
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:06.920
said. Yeah, it's the cats. They're always around. So you know,

1209
01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:10.840
even in spirit, you know our
pets. Oh yeah, cats and

1210
01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:14.760
dogs come back. Did you ever
feel anything bump into your leg? It's

1211
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:16.560
not there? No, I never
felt out there. I have. I

1212
01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:20.840
have at times. I've been working
at my desk and I'll feel something brush

1213
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:25.439
on my leg gently, not necessarily
as hard as the cats, and I'll

1214
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:30.560
look down as nobody there. It
still happens today, and I've had We've

1215
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:34.479
had three cats passed. We got
a kitten after Sarah's passed and it had

1216
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:39.920
f f I P that's fatal to
the cat. When we took the kitten,

1217
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.720
it was out, he was only
nine months and we took him to

1218
01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:46.560
get them neutered, and he must
have caught the FIP virus at the vets

1219
01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:51.359
and he died about five weeks later, his stomach filled with fluid. It

1220
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:56.960
was awful, poor little thing.
And yeah, I felt this crazy little

1221
01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:59.479
rubbing. I still this day sometimes
feel it too. And I don't know

1222
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:02.880
if it's him, if it's Saras
or whoever, but I still occasionally get

1223
01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:09.279
a little brush, a little brush. It's pretty cool. Interesting. Yeah,

1224
01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:12.479
it might be worth listening. Have
you come across where the episodes my

1225
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:15.000
episodes, It's called The Cat That
Come Back Now. I just started.

1226
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:19.960
I just found this podcast feature on
Apple because one of my friends told me

1227
01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:24.920
about it. I know, I've
listened to probably six of your episodes so

1228
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:28.720
far. I really liked one sixty
two where that Southern lady was talking.

1229
01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:32.000
I just listened to that one Monday, and she was real sweet. It's

1230
01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:38.079
nice to hear her talking about her
experiences so they can't. I'm gonna write

1231
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:41.479
this down. I'm eventually going to
listen to all of yours because I just

1232
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:44.880
love hearing all these stories that people
were going through things. You know,

1233
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:47.119
as I'm trapped, you know,
as I'm getting older and I'm meeting new

1234
01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:51.119
people and things. If you start
talking to people, I've found a lot

1235
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:55.159
of people have had experiences. They
don't always talk about them, but once

1236
01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:58.319
you start talking about things, you
find out, you know, people have

1237
01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:02.039
had some pretty interesting experiences as well, and there's such a variety, just

1238
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:05.600
like with the UFOs. There has
to be somebody that has seen what I

1239
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:10.319
saw. Please, if you hear
from anybody, I would love to know,

1240
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:13.359
because it just really I don't know
why it's bothering me so much,

1241
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:15.399
But why why did I see that? No one else? Did you know

1242
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.720
that particular kind of thing? I
just I want to know more. Oh,

1243
01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:25.439
you know what I didn't tell you
after the regression thing. I had

1244
01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:30.680
asked him because we when I had
that experience of that lion mauling me,

1245
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.880
I did after I got over that, tell him that I wanted to try

1246
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:39.079
to be regressed again to go over
to see about the UFO thing. So

1247
01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:43.520
we did that, and that's on
camera too, And we got to a

1248
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.800
point because he said he's regressed people
that have been abducted by aliens and told

1249
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:49.680
him the stories and gone through it
with him. I thought, I don't

1250
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:53.800
think I was abducted, because there
was no lost time. I remember looking

1251
01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:57.880
at the clock a lot. But
I got to this point where he said

1252
01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:00.840
was asking me questions about it,
and I said, I got to tell

1253
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:05.000
you, I'm this overwhelming feeling I'm
being blocked from knowing this. I don't

1254
01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:09.119
know why. I can almost hear
a voice in my head saying, you

1255
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.000
don't need to know that. You
know you're and it was just a block.

1256
01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:15.560
I'm totally blocked. And he goes, wow, you could come back

1257
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:17.840
and we could try. And then
I started thinking, maybe I'm not supposed

1258
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:20.680
to know. I don't know,
but oh, it's a question. I

1259
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:24.640
just I want to know, you
know. I just want to know more

1260
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:28.560
about it. I don't know why
I'm not allowed to know. I think

1261
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:34.239
sometimes it's there deliberately, whether it's
your own subconscious putting that block to protect

1262
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:39.680
you, or it's been put in
there from an outside source. I did

1263
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:43.800
do a guy a while ago.
He was a sailor and he was sailing

1264
01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:47.039
from Mexico to Hawaii. It's just
him and his sailor companion. It was

1265
01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:51.600
a Navajo, and they had several
experiences on the way to Hawaii and away

1266
01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:56.079
from Hawaii with to do of UFOs
and surrounding their boat and all that kind

1267
01:22:56.079 --> 01:23:00.800
of stuff. And the guest he
had regression to see you know what else

1268
01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:02.399
there was. I mean, to
be honest, he had those of details,

1269
01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:05.039
he had pictures, he had everything
about well you know what happened to

1270
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:10.680
him. But unfortunately, under regression, he basically went started screaming and he

1271
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.399
shut down and then that was it. That was as far as he could

1272
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:16.359
go. So sometimes, you know, for whatever reason, we're not able

1273
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:19.479
to go beyond the point. And
that could be for you know, a

1274
01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:24.279
couple of reasons. I'm guessing it's
because it's probably too much the same way

1275
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:27.600
as you know, you probably experienced
in your line of work, where there's

1276
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:30.840
trauma and then there's blocks in there
about when it comes to trauma that we

1277
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:34.640
put we have this protective mechanism in
our subconscious to help us. And that's

1278
01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:36.960
I think that's what it was with
him. I think it'd be too much

1279
01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:41.119
for him to know, you know, and I think we can imagine,

1280
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:44.279
you know, how what it could
be. Oh sure, but I think

1281
01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:46.439
it's just a natural a natural block
in there. Yeah, I don't know,

1282
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:49.920
for whatever reason I could know,
just like, isn't it wild though,

1283
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:56.239
that the guy who did that hypnotherapy
came out and said, it has

1284
01:23:56.279 --> 01:23:59.800
to be your mom and not you. That would have been traumatic for my

1285
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:02.319
order to have to actually be afraid
she's gonna lose me and then have a

1286
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:05.840
vision of me being killed in front
of her. I think it kind of

1287
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:09.359
made more sense too, that I
was the one who went through that.

1288
01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:15.359
That was that was crazy wild,
the way it opened up and I just

1289
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:18.640
saw it and it happened, and
it all was very quick. The way

1290
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:21.239
I went through all that, it
was wild. And then my face was

1291
01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:26.000
soaking wet. My daughter's like,
holy heck, you were just crying and

1292
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:29.199
crying like water was just coming out
of your eyes while you were going through

1293
01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:30.680
that, And she said, I
was really scared wondering what the heck was

1294
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:34.199
happening to you. And I didn't
feel any pain, which thank God for

1295
01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:39.279
that because that would have been horrible. But oof, that was that was

1296
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:44.039
and your account person as well,
Oh yeah, I'm also get this.

1297
01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:49.000
I'm also a Leo and I love
lions. I'm Alio through and through too.

1298
01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:56.479
But all these similarities. It's wild. It's wild, and I don't

1299
01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:59.119
know. There's so much more to
the big picture. My family's had a

1300
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:01.560
lot of experience, says with stuff. I mean, I could probably talk

1301
01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.119
two hours about some of the stuff
I know, but it's just there's so

1302
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:08.640
much more out there, and I
love learning about it. But I want

1303
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:10.640
to learn more. Like God,
I got to learn how to meditate.

1304
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:13.439
I think I need to be retired. I can't shut my brain off.

1305
01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:17.199
I really struggle. I either fall
asleep or I just can't relax enough to

1306
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:19.760
do it. I have such a
hard time with it. I'm the same.

1307
01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:23.199
It's just time for me. Yeah, well, I'm glad I got

1308
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:27.239
to share my stories. I really
am. Thank you. It's there's been

1309
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:30.680
so many things too, lots of
crazy things. And there's the one last

1310
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:33.520
thing I didn't even talk about was
when I was real, real little like

1311
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:38.159
back when I was having that reoccurring
dream the one time I had sleep paralysis,

1312
01:25:38.279 --> 01:25:40.960
the only time I ever had it, and I had this weird little

1313
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:45.439
gargoyle thing sitting on my chest and
I was scared to death. I couldn't

1314
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:47.680
scream, I couldn't turn my head. All I could do was look at

1315
01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:53.000
it. I couldn't yell, I
couldn't move. And my brother's name is

1316
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:57.399
Michael, and my mom had all
we he had like a little statue of

1317
01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:00.159
Saint Michael. I remember asking my
mom about it. She's, oh,

1318
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:03.319
Saint Michael's the archangel. He goes
after all the bad evil things. He

1319
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:08.239
you know, he's one of the
strongest angels and stuff. And so I

1320
01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:11.800
remember when I was this thing was
sitting on me and kind of looking at

1321
01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:15.439
me with this evil little grin.
It made a little circle with its mouth

1322
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:18.800
and it went and inhaled, like
it was taking the oxygen away from my

1323
01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:21.520
face, so I couldn't breathe,
just to kind of torment me. And

1324
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:26.279
I was saying in my mind,
and I'm kind of glad I knew this.

1325
01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:29.760
I'm like, God, blessed Mother, help me help me, you

1326
01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:31.039
know. I was praying to like
in my head, whoever can help me.

1327
01:26:31.079 --> 01:26:33.520
And then I went, Saint Michael, kill it, kill it.

1328
01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:38.439
I just remember see it in my
head. I was screaming it for Saint

1329
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:40.640
Michael had been now to get this
thing off of me and kill it.

1330
01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:45.079
And just that quick, you know, as I was really scared. When

1331
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:46.800
I started calling for Saint Michael,
it just disappeared. I woke up,

1332
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:48.960
I could breathe, and I was
like, oh my God. And I

1333
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:53.279
didn't want to tell my mom because
I had already scared her once with the

1334
01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:55.960
past life dream, so I kind
of kept that one than myself. And

1335
01:26:56.119 --> 01:27:00.640
a girl at work her husband had
has had sleep paralysis or like an old

1336
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:02.600
witch comes to him, and even
as an adult, he's had it.

1337
01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:05.720
We were just talking about this this
week and I said, now, for

1338
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:12.399
people who say this sleep paralysis people
experience it, explain to me, though,

1339
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:15.720
why if something is coming to you
as part of the sleep paralysis,

1340
01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:19.279
like the gargoyle little demon things,
or as a hag and the witch,

1341
01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:24.479
those are common things. How can
so many people be making that up.

1342
01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:27.399
I was little. I knew nothing
about sleep paralysis, not even know what

1343
01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:30.199
a gargoyle was at that age,
you know what I mean, I know

1344
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:32.239
what I experienced. It was until
I was older that I realized what that

1345
01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:34.880
was. You know. I was
like, Oh, that's like a little

1346
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:39.960
devil thing that I had that bad
experience with. And I kind of think

1347
01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:45.479
that if so many people are experiencing
the same couple things and not a huge

1348
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.880
variety of things, and that tells
you there's something there. Like that is

1349
01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:51.479
the proof, you know, if
sleep paralysis people coming up with scary things.

1350
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.920
How can we don't keep hearing people
saying, oh, a big snake

1351
01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:58.800
got me or a spot like people
aren't It's always the same theme. So

1352
01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:02.439
I really believe there are definitely things
out there. Yes, indeed, yes,

1353
01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:06.079
the hak just come up quite a
bit, and yeah, God goose

1354
01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:10.640
little creatures, they've had several of
them. You know. It's funny though,

1355
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:15.840
after that happened, I never I
remember thinking God and Saint Michael,

1356
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.920
don't ever let this happen to me
again. And first it never has happened

1357
01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:24.039
again. It only happened at one
time, and I felt like they were

1358
01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:26.439
always in my angels. I'm like, they're always going to protect me.

1359
01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:30.479
And I just have lived life thinking
that that was a one time thing and

1360
01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:33.079
it's never happened again. I think
because I just have such a belief that

1361
01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:36.800
I'm protected. You know that I
won't let it happen. I won't let

1362
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:42.560
it come near me. Now that
I said that, I'll get up tomorrow

1363
01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:45.800
morning with this thing right right,
I think sometimes you know, we we

1364
01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:49.359
do interact with these things, and
they do try and I suppose to take

1365
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:53.600
advantage to come into our space and
stuff. It does happen. Oh yeah,

1366
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:57.159
there's any protections out there. You
just really just got to kind of

1367
01:28:57.439 --> 01:29:00.960
have a belief in something, you
know, and I know the psychic lady

1368
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.239
I used to work of years ago, she would say, you know,

1369
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.920
there'll be there's certain spiritual ways you
can do it. You know, if

1370
01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:09.239
you have a belief in Jesus and
God and all that, then you know

1371
01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:12.680
you'd obviously go in that direction seeing
a Buddhism and Hinduism, you know,

1372
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:15.479
you'd have your your direction that you're
pulled in. But you can also do

1373
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:19.359
things like cove yourself in blue light
and that kind of thing. And if

1374
01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:25.000
you come under any any form of
a psychic attack, you know, you

1375
01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:28.640
can use a traffic light system.
She would say, where you use red

1376
01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:30.920
and green. It's never something I've
ever really used. I've used a blue

1377
01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:33.600
light, Like do you mean a
physical blue light you put on or you

1378
01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:36.640
think in your mind of a blue
light in your mind? Okay, okay,

1379
01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:40.880
yeah, I think for protection all
the time, Like when I get

1380
01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:43.479
up and I'm driving into work in
the morning, I think of a white

1381
01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:45.720
light coming down and surrounding my family
and I for protection every day, to

1382
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:49.800
help, you know, just keep
things away, and and I feel pretty

1383
01:29:50.479 --> 01:29:54.079
at peace. So I feel pretty
good, you know, I don't.

1384
01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:58.359
I try to live a good life, and I'm getting more into the spirituality,

1385
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:00.600
and I'm excited. I hate rush
retirement, but me I can't wait

1386
01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:05.079
to have time to really get into
this more. Talk to more people,

1387
01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:09.439
read more things, you know,
practice more to be able to meditate and

1388
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:13.720
get more in tune with the other
side and what else is out there.

1389
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:15.960
It's a journey, and you know, there's there's much to see and do.

1390
01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:19.079
There's you know, there's there's two
different sides to it. You know,

1391
01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:21.640
when you get involved in this this
stuff, you know, you meet

1392
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:26.119
people which generally you wouldn't meet.
But also there's a good side, but

1393
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:29.680
there's also a bad side. You
can have interactions that you probably wouldn't want,

1394
01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:31.720
but for some reason it's attracted to
you now. So we've always got

1395
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:35.159
to be aware of what you're dealing
with. So you know, it depends

1396
01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:39.039
how you know, what kind of
lines you go down. Well, that's

1397
01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:42.760
a journey. I'm still on and
we'll have to see absolutely, Sharon.

1398
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.199
That's wonderful. Thank you. I
really appreciate you coming on and sharing it

1399
01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:48.479
all for our listeners. Well,
thank you for the opportunity. And yeah,

1400
01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:51.079
you're wonderful. I love what you're
doing. It's been great talking to

1401
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:55.199
you. Keep in contact and I'll
speak to you soon. Okay, take

1402
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:58.079
care of by bye, Okay,
take care bye for now. That's all

1403
01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:01.199
for this week. Keep updated and
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1404
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:04.159
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1405
01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:10.319
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1406
01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:14.039
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1407
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:17.840
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big fang to Sharon for Sharon tonight,

1408
01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:23.159
and thank you all for listening.
I will be back next week. Till

1409
01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:27.359
then, stay safe, Thank you
watching us guys. Goodbye,