I asked her if she wanted to go out to dinner, and she said
no, maybe we could get together for lunch. You know what that means?
What's with lunch? Lunch is fine at the beginning. Then you move
on to dinner. You don't go back to lunch. It's like being demoted.
I'll never do another cross with puzzle with her again. I know it.
I like the jumble. You ever do the jumble? I have no
power. Don't you understand? I need hand? I have no hand.
Break up with her? What you break up with her? You reverse everything
that way? A preemptive break up. A preemptive break up. This is
an incredible idea. I got nothing to lose. We either break up,
which she would do anyway, but at least I go out with some dignity,
or I completely turned the tables. This is absolutely brilliant. Welcome to
Talking Sinfeld, the podcast where we discuss everything we know about the show about
Nothing, and this week we are here to review the episode of the Pez
Dispenser. I am Dando, I am guy Dando. Are you doing my
name? I'm doing very well, sir, had a nice weekend or just
discussing off here that went out with the lovely wife of mine, Nicola,
who congratulations. By the way, I'm not sure if I said on this
podcast yet, but she was promoted to manager of her workplace. She now
manages all of Victoria and all of Tasmania, two whole states she's a manager
of. I didn't realize it was two whole states. Yeah. Yeah,
So she's now running the business for the state, and she's running the business
at you're a state. Yeah yeah, me managing me far more difficult than
managing her business. But yes, congratulations to my lovely wife, Nicola,
who's out in there. And not the best thing about my wife too,
is she's so understanding and so supportive of this show and everything we do here
at the four Finger Discount Network. That she's managing the state at our kitchen
table so we can have this office space to do our podcast. Oh that's
just saintly. It is what it is. Yes, she is spongeworthy,
but anyway, yes, so what about you? What do you do for
the weekend? Very little and so happy about it. It's so good.
When I was just saying that, you know, you've just got a couple
of hours and of no interruptions because I mean, I've got kids. You've
lived with Louise, live Luise, but Louise is most of your time.
He's your kids running around, he there and everywhere. And they're older,
so they're louder than you know they're they're basically young adults just running around the
house. But when there's no one in the house, it's just used to
us, like it's just our time, baby. We can just watch whatever
we want. We can we can get to sleep for two hours. It
crosswords into bed. Didn't By the way, that sounded so nice. When
when he said that, I was like, young Dando wouldn't get that.
Thirty four year old Dando gets it and appreciates it and has it in his
favorite moments. I just love that life. We did a crossword in the
bed, and the sheer joy of George just we did a crossword in the
bed. It sounds amazing. He made it sound like the most appealing thing,
and quite honestly, it does. Yeah, yeah, there are plenty
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that as well, if you could afford it. But yes, The Pest
Dispenser another really great episode of Seinfeld. When I was looking forward to reviewing,
and it did not disappoint. It was just it was very simple,
this story, and I guess that's sort of that's just sci felt in a
nutshell at the time. It's just a simple premise, not a whole lot
going on, but still it's the dialogue that makes it. There's not a
lot when it comes to like scenarios. The scenarios aren't grand, it's not
a huge deal going on scenario wise, but just the banter back and forth,
it was just a whole lot of fun in this I thought very much.
So yeah, I mean, just as Friends has its titles, the
one with Seinfeld does as well. But I mean, yeah, you primarily
go, oh, yeah, this is the one with the pest dispencer.
And I was calling the pest dispenser of course, but yeah, you're not
really thinking so much about the plot or or the story or anything like that.
You really are sort of remembering bits and pieces and how it makes it
fun. I always just whatever I hear the pest dispenser, I think of
Jerry doing the little clap with a pest dispenser. And you mentioned dialogue as
well. But one thing that really struck me about this episode, and look,
There are episodes before this one that we've reviewed and we've brought it up,
but this really struck me as having that particular Seinfeld rhythm. You know,
It's just the way certain lines are delivered, the way scenes sort of
the way actors bounced one another, way scenes perculated along. It just felt
quintessentially Sinefeld to me. What I liked about this story was how they managed
to get something as insignificant as a pesti spencer and highlight that's something so tiny
and so small can create such chaos they put into the wrong hands because all
of this started because Joey put a little pest spencer in a lane lap and
that was it by personally blown Cramer for this for just you know, bringing
it into their world in the first place. Yeah, that's that's the question.
And they play on that as well because they say Cramer indirectly caused Richie
to get onto the too drugs and whatnot, and he also indirectly was the
reason that or everything goes to ship in this episode as well. Absolute agent
of chaos, that man just causing trouble wherever he goes, No, not
intending to. There's no malice in Cramer, but just the way he goes
about things throws the universe into disarray. That is a good one. Still,
So what were your favorite moments from the episode. I'm a big fan
of George in general, just trying to control everything, you know, not
only his relationship with Noel, but you know when when there's that first meeting,
that when Jerry and elinare first going to meet Noel, and you know,
he sort of wants everyone to listen to me. I'm telling you how
things are. I'm the boss here. Like you, you must be feel
sorry and be embarrassed and apologize to me, or at least be not not
what's the way? Just be sorry for what they've done. And that is
ain't care. That don't care and nothing more irritating when someone's done something wrong
and they're showing no remorse for it. It's like, be sorry, that's
what you say. Sorry. But I think the bit, the bit of
that that I love the most was just when he said something about cut to
the chase and Jerry just can't believe cut to the chase. What are you,
Joe? Hollywood. It's always funny when someone when a friend of yours
and someone you can take the piss out of without them taking it too personally,
or someone you can call on being a bit of a wanker and them
not being completely heartbroken by going and you've probably got a point. They try
to incorporate some cool new slang or you know, they're they're trying something that's
just not them and they're trying just a little bit too hard, and you
sort of have to pull the reins back on on the lit and scene,
it's no, don't do that, not even don't do that. So I
don't do that. Don't do that. That's why I had a friend of
mine who kept trying to kept trying to say, that's a vibe. I
don't start this. It sounds stupid coming out of your mouth. It sounds
stupid coming out of anybody's mouth. I do apologize. There's any listeners out
there that do say that, you know, more power to you. But
this friend of mine, when he kept saying that's a vibe, like,
stop it, stupid, it's not a vibe. You're creating a bad one
by saying it. Stop it. Please just doct trying to make fair chapp
and buddy, Yeah, I really enjoyed just George's sheer glee at the start
of this and obviously another episode another George girlfriend, but that aside. But
I just really enjoy just we did a crossway in bed. I was like,
that's awesome. George, for all his faults, and he does have
many deserves a w every once in a while, he deserves a win,
and it feels like he had one at the start here. You know,
even though George being George, he of course is going to self sabotage but
saying she's just too good for me, and you know, all that kind
of business. But it did sound like, well, first of all,
invariably, you're going to be punching above your weight. Men are always punching
above their weight. I know, I certainly am. I'm sloping with the
boss now, mate, I'm sorry. That just cracks me up. But
the fact that he sounds so happy, Yeah, I mean, I think,
yeah, we're both coming back to the crossword in bed. It's weird
how that's just become how shorthand for like ideal relationship relationship goals, Well,
I've got here for all these faults. George must be doing something right with
the ladies, because he's getting a lot of girlfriends. He can't keep them
because, like he said, he self sabotages, but he said to be
able to get them pretty well. That's the thing. I think it's about
Jason Alexander as well. I mean, not necessarily the most handsome man,
and you know, he's kind of I don't know how old George is meant
to be in these things. I think we talk about this a lot because
it's like early to mid thirties on the shom Yeah, I know, he's
got the receipted hairline and you know he's not exactly buff and he's not a
big guy, but there's just something about him. He's kind of he's got
a weird charisma. I mean, people talk a lot about Kramer's weird charisma
and how he's kind of a man in some ways. But that's because he
plays that. His character needs that, like Michael Richard plays that up.
He does have that charisma, but he really that's that's his stick for the
show where George he has a lot of other things going on for him.
But you're right though, Jason Alexander, there's something about it and it just
makes you go, you're not that attractive, but there's something about you that
makes me just want to be with you. Yeah. I've mentioned in the
past that, you know, Jason Alexander was in the cast of this eighties
early eighties horror movie called The Burning, a real slasher movie. Always bring
this up. You love it. It's weird for me to say that love
it because it's a gross horror movie. I mean, it's insanely bloody.
It's just disreputable to the max. But it's the first time I saw Jason
Alexander. And you know, he's got his still got his hair in this,
and he's playing kind of the the Bill Murray type at the summer camp.
You know, he's he looks far too old to be an actual camper
there. I think he might be a counsel or something like that. But
he's just got a real energy. It's like, this is the kind of
ago you want to be around. He's the kind of you know, he
walks in, it's like, hey, the party started. So even though
he was by the way, he was he was thirty two when this episode
came out. Okay, so he's got a few Yeah, he's still got
some miles on the meter at this stage. And you know, the hair's
gone, he's got the love handles, but that energy is still there even
if, like, even though he's playing it down as George Costanza, who's
kind of this born loser, that that charisma is still there. You can't
wholly deny it. So maybe that's it. Maybe that's women see it and
they want it as as someone who's thirty four. Now I find it not
confronting that the fact that he's thirty two. But I think it's because I
grew up and when Sifel was first on, I was so young, so
I always saw these people Jerry, Elaine Cramer, George as old people.
But I'm now older than what they were in that show was made. It's
just like, oh shit. It's like when I when you're a kid,
you think your parents are so old, and I'm like, no, but
dad was like twenty seven. He was an old at all. When I
was a kid, like he seemed like he was a real old person.
Now I'm like, it makes me feel like because we went out for drinks
last Friday night Nicola Enough for the first time in ages like a pool hall
slate here in Gelong, and there's all these sort of like twenty year olds
walking amaut, I'm thinking at certain points where I'm thinking he's like girls like
looking at me, thinking, who's this fucking old guy? Like I don't
feel old, but sometimes I have those moments where I'm like and they looking
at me, judging me, saying, who's this old guy? Thinking he
questioning who do you think he is? Hanging out all these kids? Like
it just it felt weird. And the weirdest thing was, and I pointed
this out to Nicola, was that there was like girls and guys there who
were like four or five years below me at high school who are now like
grown adults. And I'm like, wow, this is just so strange.
I think it's just because I don't go out very often. I probably would
if you saw them all the time, it wouldn't matter. But just like,
I haven't seen you since you were year eight. Now you're like in
your mid twenties. What's happening here? It was just, yeah, it's
tough. I'm getting older. I mean, I'll find myself. You know,
I'll be at the supermarket, for instance, in here, go through
the checkout and you'll be having a not banter with the young person you know
behind the counter or whatever. Manning the checkout, but asking how they Yeah,
but you sort of realize, oh my, that old person who's like,
how's your day going? All right? Are you're doing a very good
job. It doesn't help that you're doing your Bobby impersonation. That's that's not
a Bobby in person, that's just just very old person. What's your Bobby
impersonation? I thought it was your Bobby. I don't know if I can
imitate Dad. I'll give it a well, but I'm not going to certainly
do it off the off the bat right now, Okay, But then realizing
oh well, you sort of have to keep yourself in checking out, Okay,
don't try make sure that what you're saying to this person who is probably
three decades and change younger than you. Make sure you're not that sleazy old
guy who's like just talking to the kids like you're one of the kids,
just like, oh you you must be on that TikTok. Yeah, show
you going out after this day. I heard a guy say that to this
girl. It happened last week. I was picking up a gift for Holly
from Big w here in Geelong and this girl was serving and there was the
guy in front of me, and he goes, and because it was us,
that was Friday. It was Friday when I was picked up, And
he goes, Friday night must be a night for you. You're going out
with your friends tonight. And I'm like, don't ask this girl that.
She looks like she's sucking twelve, like she's an old guy, like just
going out tonight. Ah, yeah, I'm sure you have a good time
tonight with your friends. Yeah, yeah, you'd like to drink? Do
you like? This is pedophile? When I when he asked, when he
asked, the hold you like to drink? I was like, what is
going on? So, yeah, there's that realization when you get a few
more miles on the man's oh yeah, keep yourself with check. When you're
sort of talking, there's a fine line between I appreciate your You've got a
fairly average job here, I'm doing my best to sort of show my appreciation
for at the same time, Yeah, you don't want to be like,
yeah, rap up in a couple of airs, do what's happening? Then
yeah, it's like you're you're a truly when there's no schooldies on, it's
terrible. Yeah, exactly, Now, this episode is called the pest Dispense.
Obviously, the whole thing is about the chaos that has created from this
pest dispense being put on a Lane's lap. Were you ever a pest dispenser
guy? I was never really a pest dispenser. I think I had several.
I've got a couple of You've got a few Muppets ones, and when
we used like the Muppets ones, and Atlie's got a couple they seem to
sort of stil make them out. It's got a couple of superhero ones.
But I was never a pest dispenser guy. It was always too difficult to
load them, and I just gave up. I was like, it's too
hard. It's given me a lollipop. Yeah, pretty much, isn't it?
Like this seems like a lot of effort to go for a little bit
of a sugary treat. I'll remember pest dispense were kind of a big thing
when I was a kid, And yeah, look, I'm sure I had
a few of them. They probably had times and things like Star Wars and
all that kind of person. I probably had a Darth vade on one or
something along those lines. But yeah, I can't see it's funny. I'm
wondering how far out of the pop culture consciousness they'd been when this episode aired,
because it's like a lot apparently in Jesson Alexander says, because of this
episode, suddenly they were like reborn again and everyone was walking in with a
pest dispenser and Pez were like so thankful, and I'll sending them free pears
and they made a Jerry Pez for Jerry and a George Run for Jason and
whatnot. But he was saying they didn't intend for that. They didn't mean
that. They didn't actually expect that. The whole joke was that this pest
dispenser so insignificant, no one likes him anymore. They didn't think that there
was going to create a boom, but it did. And just and he
said that Jason was saying in the in the inside look that it was the
first time in his experience that he realized, wait a minute, this show
has some power now. Was Seinfeld a show that seemed to have some sort
of like impact in Australia. I always never really saw it as one that
did that. But we're people walking around and doing the whole YadA YadA YadA,
And I think certainly around this period of the show as well, when
it's really it's done to gain a bit of momentum, YadA, YadA,
YadA, No soup for you. I mean this is all stuff down the
line, of course, but yeah, yeah, when it was in it
in its groove and not just an America in Australia, Yeah, there was
a lot of you know, these particels are making me thirsty. And it's
a very catchphrase heavy show, and that's a short cut to just worming your
way into someone's head if you've come up with a a nifty one liner that
you can sort of drop in if you don't have the ability to come up
with jokes on your own, but if you do have the ability to realize
if I say no soup for you here in relation to something, I'm going
to be the life of the party for like a split second. Yeah,
and Seinfeld really has a lot of those, So yeah, I mean that's
one of the one of the big reasons it became popular. I'm sure would
you say that it's all like the nineties equivalent of the eighties, maybe equivalent
of like funko pops, just like a fad. I think Smurfs for the
eighties equivalent of Funco Pops. Smurfs were humans. Smurfs is a licensed Funco
have all these different licenses and they make their designs. Oh okay, yeah,
so like Pez is like a thing. They can get all different licenses
and brands and apply it to their model. That's a good way of putting
it. Actually, yeah, I hadn't really thought of it that way,
but yeah, I mean, certainly, PEZ put a whole bunch of different
heads on top of their little dispenses, and I seemed to record it was
a bit of m I'd like that one, please, Yeah, yeah,
yep, you're get the whole set. The last thing I really enjoy about
this episode, by the way, before we getting to trivia, I feel
like you would would have really liked this as well, was the conversation about
pouch envy. At least give me a pucket. I love that old guy.
He was fantastic from the bowler like he was given a few lines,
but he ate them up. Man, what you don't want to be a
bowler anymore? To gold by very funny? Could you spell that? Please?
No? Next question? All right, it is time for some Trivia
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But anyway, time for some trivia here. My first question is for
you how many pez did Kramer initially purchase? He bought five, didn't he?
That's great? Five? Yeah, yeah, my favorite number. What's
your favorite number? Mine's always been five. I like seven. It's funny,
a lot of people are either five or seven. It's what is it
about five and seven? It's just five and seven to so many people's favorite
number. M I'm very curious. Now, why do you think that would
be the case. I have no idea but like whenever I played Keynote,
like Nicolas playing Keynote, it's we always just choose three to five seven,
and we have never not one at once. So have you picked three numbers
in Keyno? You get like fifty bucks? You win fifty bucks, right,
And we always put on twenty games, and every single time we've won
at least once, So it costs twenty bucks. We always walk home double
em money. So three to five seven, if you ever play Keyno,
do it. Maybe that's the reason my first question to you, Yeah,
George, hands Jerry a can of something? What is it? I was
just the one that I was talking about. This should be more popular.
No, no, it's not mentioned at all, but you can see it
and you distinctly know what it is that I'm gonna say, diet coke,
and you would be correct in doing. Jerry just seems like a diet coke
kind of guy, don't you reckon? Ye? Come on, be a
coke zero going to go. We've talked about it. I think I would
have had coke zero, not no, not coke zero or not even coke
no sugar, just coke and diet coke, not even coke clear. It's
gone. They probably had new coke and that's forget. My next question is
what was the name of the old guy who was killed by the gatorade?
That's the club owner, and his name was Marty Benson? Correct? Yes,
m What temperature is it when Kramer swims in the morning with the polar
bears? Nah? Got me? What is it? He said it was
twenty nine degrees, which I not only assume is fahrenheit. We've talked about
this our American friends. Get with the program. Get celsius, get feet,
I mean get centimeters, not feet cephrend degrees fahrenheit into celsius. Is
it is minus one point six? That ship is cold? And my final
question here for the pest of Spencer is how old was Mrty when he died?
That I don't know, but I want to say sixty five, oh,
nearly sixty seven. He should have go with your lucky number, your
lucky number, which I have a question for you if he wants them more.
And it's funny because you mentioned earlier about the drink, but what is
on what are two of the things on George's conversation list with Noel? Ah?
Yeah, how he can reverse park is that right, that's one first
park. And why is it's posted or something? Why is more popular drink?
It's called post them? I didn't look it up. What is post
them? Do you think it's a replacement for coffee? Oh? Okay,
yeah, So basically, if you don't want to drink coffee, you drink
this. And a lot of Mormons drink it because they were they don't drink
coffee, so they would drink this instead. But I'm not a coffee drinker
at all, so I don't need it. I don't need a replacement.
I just don't want it at all. But yes, you've got any more
trivia questions for me before we get into our review? Oh? I think
that order to do is don't you think let's let's jump into the episode.
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The original air day of The Pest Dispenser was January fifteenth, nineteen ninet
two. It was written by Larry David and directed by who Mister Davis,
Tom Sharonez, starring Fred Sanders as John and Elizabeth Moorehead as Nowel, and
we're just discussing just then. I think Elizabeth really appeared in much, which
surprised and because I thought she did a great job as Noel. She was
very good in this and we'll get to it when we get to it.
But she, you know, is the she puts the Kappa on the episode
very very nicely. But yeah, I think, like you, Dana looked
up her CV, they looked at Presidium, looked up her other credits.
Once this episode was done. It's like, you know, she had one
of those actor's careers where it's like I'm gonna guest Daron Roll on this and
this. You know, she was a lead on this probably short lived show.
But yeah, not an actor's career, not a star's career, but
you know, an actor's career. But she's terrific in this episode. Yeah,
just plays very well with the Seinfeld crew. You brought up the ending
there with the Kappa of that where you're gonna you're gonna need it whatever she
says it without the hand. It's not very often that Seinfeld has moments like
that. That was a very sick, coomed kind of ending, and it
wasn't a bad one. It was funny, and because they don't do it
all the time, it stood out more and it works here and it feels
like it actually meant something more where if this is how every episode ended to
be, just like another one liner. But yeah, it's felt odd in
the Seinfeld universe to have such a Bazinger moment, you know, kind of
yeah. I mean, I think Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld kind of very
much marched to their own rhythm. They're not necessarily yeah, we're just going
to make a sitcom. Like every other sitcom. Ours is going to be
very representative of our sense of humor. So you're right when it does have
a close outliner this where it's sort of I don't know if you hear the
audience here going whoa mastivation joke on TV? But at the same time,
I mean, it is such a good example of that that, I mean,
I've wrote it when I was like, the minute they start talking to
my hand, I'm pretty sure someone said you're talking about hand boy, You're
definitely gonna need your hand after this, and I was like, okay,
well that's how we close out, and then you sort of reverse all the
engineer all the hand stuff from there. Yeah, this is sort of like
the planting the seed for the contest episode. True, but it was test
out a masturbation gag and see how it goes, crowd to see how it's
wrong with it, see how it flies. Yeah, I thought the whole
whole moment was handed very well. But anyway, so the episode kicks off
with some stand up with Jerry discussing women in their perfume. Women put on
their perfume in an interesting way. I love watching them do that. You
ever notice that guys and they have those their little key stratego and places they
think we're gone, and they hit this one. Women had convinced that this
is the most action packed area that could ever happen in the dating world.
What is that, lady? What is happening here? Is that? Is
that in case you slap the guy or he still finds you intriguing Chanel,
I like the after shaved on the wrist right. For some reason, I
spray after shape. I don't know why I do that. Apparently it's a
it's a like a the human pheromone dispenser. It's where, Yeah, that's
where a lot it's on your neck. I've always gone wrist. Yeah,
Joey makes fun of women for putting it down, Like, but that's where
everyone does it? Is it not everyone does that? I felt insecure after
do that. I was like, am I not supposed to be doing this?
Make sure not take note whenever you interview Jerry, don't say you put
after shape on your wrist. Fuck him. But it is funny how a
sitcom will kind of hand determined your behavior moving forward. Friends did it really
well because they did the thing where, um, do you check you?
If you're a man, you you're supposed to check your finger and I was
by folding your fingers into your into your hand sort of not not quite a
fist, but you do it, put in your hand out yeah, yeah,
as opposed to being a woman and you look at the back of it.
I remember being and like you. I remember being like year eight and
a girl asked me that she must't just watch the Friends episode or something,
and I did it and all the fans giggled and I was like, what
are they laughing at? And my friends like it means it gay, and
I'm like complex forever, I know, I'm pretty sure that there's anything wrong
with that. But when I'm in year eight, you know, in two
thousand and two it was a concern. Well, I'm pretty sure that every
every time since watching that episode of Friends, and I've had to check my
finger. I was I'm like, make sure you do the claw even though
it means nothing, but you know, it sticks with you, doesn't it.
Or I'm not doing it when anyone's around, I'll do it alone.
So no, no, no, what did Oh? Yeah that was that
is good? Yeah. But anyway, so George is he's very excited talking
about his new girlfriend, Noel. She's a professional pianist. She's a pianist,
a classical pianist. She plays the piano. She's a brilliant woman.
I sat in the living room. She played the Waldstein, so the Waltstein.
We did a crossword puzzle together in bed. It was the most fun
I ever had in my entire life. Do you hear me in my life?
You know we're talking. I couldn't hear anything. Jerry is a very
dismissive friend, isn't he? Oh? Sorry, are we talking? I
wasn't listening, so you heard every word? Just being a dick. Yeah,
it's not the one who plays the bongos. And as you were saying
earlier, he's just he's got George's that friend that but they got it.
It comes the point though, where just be nice occasionally. And Jenny does
be nice occasionally, but the friend who's a punching bag, they have a
breaking point and you can usually tell when they're getting close to it, and
you don't back off. Now, we have talked about this on the show
in the past, whether it's on On Talking Seinfeld or on four Finger Discount
or Going Down South Park or Movie Guys or the other shows you're here in
the four figure Discount of any of the many shows in which we talk about
all men are of interesting things. But yeah, how men kind of have
that way of displaying affection or acceptance of someone by taking the piss which which
means for international listeners that means making fun of, but like a in a
fun way. I'm not sure taking the pisss has gone overseas yet. I
think it's not taking urine. Our British friends know, yes, I'm poking
fun at But at the same time, if you if it's a friend that
you've had for quite some time or no, I think you know even if
you're you realize there's so far you can go, and you know, when
you've even taken to like you put a little pinky toe across that line.
Oh wait a minute, no, no, no, sorry, I shouldn't
have done that. Shouldn't have said that, mate, And then you spend
the next I don't know, five to ten minutes sort of like mate,
good luck good yeah, just yea big upping them until you can start,
you know, poking them again. So George is he's very uncomfortable with the
new situation, new relationship because he's got no power. She has the upper
hand, and in hand is it's tough to get. So George he invites
Jerry and Elaine to to come watch her play at a recital and perhaps they
can get for dinner afterwards, so she can kind of see him in his
natural habitat with his friends. And I think that he has some form of
power in this relationship. And this is where Kramer enters and says, smell
my arm. And I was like, oh, it's the beach episode,
which eventually gets stolen, but this is, you know, the initial introduction.
That's actually what I like about the Kramer character. And I've never realized
that when watching Sciper for the initially was that Kramer seems to have these stories
that go across various episodes where the other characters don't like it's it's George,
Elaine and Jerry are very much the story happens in an episode and it comes
to an end, but you've got a Cramer. The previous one was The
Jacket, which went across several episodes across seasons. Even so, like Cramer's
there he talks about the beach here. Eventually it gets stolen the idea.
But I watched this and went, this is similar to my theory of a
burning candle that smells like garlic and onions cooking. I want that in my
house. I've said there's thousand times like, oh yeah, I would be
in an instant millionaire if I could come up with a centered candle smelled like
yeah, suteting onions, Oh my god, that's good candle. And yeah,
but his his idea about you know, um, yeah the beach.
Yeah that's great. That that's a really good idea. Yeah. I wonder
though, would it be a scent that you would eventually like it's the initial
center's like, oh that's nice, that's alluing but would you want to that
your partners to smell like that all the time. I think it'd be a
good way of attracting somebody, But I don't think I would want Nicola to
smell like the beach all the time. Well, here's the thing. I
mean, first of all, we're with Nicola. Does she have like one
does he have like a signature scent that she uses or does she have an
array of them for certain occasions? And likewise you do you have? I
have just whatever my mum bought from Christmas the year before. Really, I
don't pay you really any contention. It's a Calvin Clients something probably actually is
called Galvan Clients something that's got that. It's got that really sophisticated app with
you know, some hot looking French dude in black and white and it's like
Galvin Glean something something something something. I m used, what was it called
Links Africa? I don't really, but that was like the and if you're
in high school, if you went to the change rooms after pe class,
was a lot of links going around that at its just and they were combined
in the middle of the room and it's just it's all big, very smells
of sweat and links terrible anyway, But yeah, the beach a good concept
and I think, um, yeah, obviously it does pay off from the
end for somebody else. Yeah, but I think you'd use it every once
in a while. It would be very much a summer kind of scent.
Uh And yeah, not every day but and probably not when you're going down
the coast or anything like that. But say you were going to you know,
some nice looking like a barbecue and afternoon slash, you know, Barney
summer eve. It's like it on the wrists, smell like sea. I
think I think my three favorite smells would have to be guy can cooking freshly
cut grass reminds me of Saturday mornings Dad cut in the grass just when he
had not a care in the world. And probably a wood fire. Yeah.
What about you? What are your what are your three go to cents?
Well, definitely, yeah, sorte the other two for you? I
mean, I love when you're walking down the road and you can smell that
someone's got a wood fire and then the smoke's coming out. What about you?
What are your two? That is nice? Look? It sounds obvious
to say that I'm a fan of sort of like beachy smells given though we're
just talking about the ocean here, But I am very partial to that.
You know, I wouldn't. I don't really like going to the beach because
I'm very pale and I'm like Anakin skywalker, and I don't like sandy gets
everywhere. But I do love the smell of it. You know, just
when you've pulled into the car park, you know you've got a little bit
of a walk to go to the beach with, you sort of get out,
m that's fresh, and then you get out of the car and you're
like, tides out. What's my third I like pine? Okay, like
a pine scent. Yeah, so you'd be big on a real Christmas tree
then, yeah, true train Do you ever have Christmas trees in your house
at Christmas time? Just a little one? I have tiny one that's in
the cupboard and I sort of take that out and got a few little lights
on it, and let's put that up. Why don't you get a big
one? Did you get a big one? I don't want it enough?
Your choice? Yeah, we we just we just bought a new one.
We've had the same tree for like twelve years. It was just it was
a pain. Every time you'd like we'd pull it out, it's a little
bits of green ship would fall over the floor. So we bought a newer
one. It is a little bit bigger, but it's got the pre lit
lights I built into it to save that hasn't having to put lights on it
much better. Well, I know you like your Christmas, so yeah,
it makes sense to me. Yeah, yeah, definitely getting back to the
episode though, that was a slight detour there. But yeah, So Kramer,
he's got the beach. He talks about the beach, and then he
says that he's joined the Polar Bear Club. That smells good. What is
it the beach? The beach, yeah, to go swimming. It's one
on the Gizer. No, I just joined the Polar Bear Club. Did
you join the Polar Bear's people? They go swimming in the winter, they're
they're terrific. I just took my first swim today. It's invigorating. Yeah,
so shock therapy. But then Kramer says he's got pees dispenser and Jerry's
like, oh, Pez, it's kind of like one of those things where
you go, I remember those. I love those. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like someone pulling out like a wat of footy cards from here. Yeah,
you're like, fuck, I love these things, And about five minutes
you're like, yeah, what else you go? But yeah, it's I
love it when someone that's bringing up a story and pulling something out of the
cupboard and just triggers a memory from your childhood that you're like, oh,
happy times. And it's just it's just that nostalgia kick. Besides maybe an
orgasm. Is there a better feeling and love? Is there a better feeling
than a nostalgia kick? Well? True? Yeah, something that takes you
back to watching for Apple for you, I believe he said something like in
your dressing game, watching the sound of music on a Saturday night or something.
You know, a real kick of nostalgia. That's a great feeling at
your reckon. Yeah, a real uh you know Anton Ego the restaurant creek
having his first bite of rat having but rather to well, yeah, to
the point where it's so strong that you feel dizzy. But it's like whoa
that was? Like? That was that was something you know? I had
small version of out the other day because I was cleaning out the laundry and
realized, oh, there's a couple of these boxes beyond the door. Here,
what's in there? And there was a bunch of magazines from the two
thousands and I thought i'd thrown out You wrote this on social media, yeah,
and I was like, oh, oh, I kept pretty much all
of them. Oh that's neat, and yeah, sort of put them into
part. It's like, okay, well, looks like someone's going down to
office work to get one of those big plastic containers. So you know these
going to be kept, you know, relatively staying and element no more wear
and tear on them. So but I was looking through them, a go,
oh yeah, I remember, oh gosh, I remember it, like
reading this one on the train when I was, you know, going back
and forth to Melbourne for work and all that kind of stuff. Oh you
ever pulled them out again? Though? Do you think that's a good question?
Maybe like ten years from now, this is where I've got like,
this is where I need to draw a live for myself because I'm terrible wanting
to keep things like that. Yeah, and after they asked myself you forgot
you had them? Now that you know you've got them, do you still
think you're ever going to pull them out again? There was a There was
a period though, where I was like, oh, man, I shouldn't
have thrown those out. I mean, I thought I thought i'd dumped them.
I've got I've got a story for you, continued, but yeah,
no, no, no, that's that's the end of the month. It's
like, I thought I'd thrown these out and it turns out that I had
them. So so are you prepared to have your heart broken? But constantly.
My uncle once gave me the three giant boxes right full of magazines,
and I kept them for years and years and years. I sent in their
garage. She got to the point where Nicholas like and it was Nicholas fault
sense. She's like, you never read them, what's the point in having
them? Just get rid of them? Like, yeah, you're right,
I've never I just liked the idea of having them. Right. It was
every Empire magazine from nineteen ninety seven through to two thousand and one, every
one of them. It's even likely ninety five was like six sears worth of
Empire magazines, everyone in like pristine condition or condition, all in like slea
sleep Minael kept them in perfect condition. And I was like, oh wow,
I was backing down and go I should have kept him. But then
I think about him, like most of the ship that was in those magazines
you probably just find online anyway, you know. But it's just I know,
back now, I think I often think Guy would have really have liked
those Thanks man, But I don't think I knew you at that point,
but you would have been my first point of gold have gone, I'll just
dumped him at your house. I would have had him for like three weeks
and then gone, these are taking its face. Hey, I just bought
it at the flea market. Hey, what goes on there exactly? You
don't know? No, I know, I know you think they have fleas
there, don't you? Yes, you do both. You've never been to
a flea market and you think they have fleas there? All right? I
think they have fleas there? So they didn't anyway? Does it? So
George doesn't really know what a flea market is. I thought, well,
they're gonna go to the flea market. They don't. But that is part
of Larry David's gene yes, I think, I mean, purely for that
line, I was like, you think they've got fleas at the flea market?
Day. I don't like you start thinking, what the hell do they
call it a flea mark? I'm pretty sure I thought they called it a
flea market because you know, they sold fleas or some reason like that.
I end up looking it up. Apparently they call it a flea market because
it's yeah, it's got some I think in France they called it something and
it's the vague translation was something like flea market. Okay, yeah, but
I did look up what pez stands for pez dance for something? I think
in French as well. Hang, is it an acronym? Pe Z comes
from the German word of peppermint. That's what it is. Pehemin's so capital
p F lowercase feu, capital e r m I n z. So the
capitals P e Z from that word peppermint pez. You go to kids,
The more you know, the more you know. Yeah, that's definitely,
that's that's the kind of thing that you you know, three years from now,
is you got to a trivia night, that's the kind of shit they'll
ask you, what does Pestanfine, everyone's going to think, oh, it
must stand for three different words. No, it's just purple month. It's
a geman peppermint. Yeah. Yeah, And you'll be the hero of the
night. I feel like, um, the Flea Market was a scin Feld
episode that would have worked for sure, those guys walking about a flea market.
Can you imagine the fun they could have goten up to? True?
But maybe too maybe too many sets, I mean, I think Seinfeld likes
to keep it relatively isolated. Maybe a later probably the later season that was
always not always but they were very much being at about. But yeah,
I think the I think the freak would have been would have been fun.
I think it would be a fun game to play with our listeners, throw
out of title each week and get our listeners to come up with a story
for each character based on that title, and that the best one that we
choose wins the prize. What do you want? That's good if we want
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Dando wheeling and dealing. So they're now waiting for Noel's recital to begin.
They're sitting now or sort of just prepared, talking about how do they prepare,
do they plan backstage? Do they crack their knuckles? What do they
do? And George says, now, don't clap right away because when she
stopped, when she stops, she's not finished. Very patronizing, isn't he?
Oh that was directed at me at a moment like that with someone's something
in a grip. But it's like you're looking at me when you see right,
you think going to be the one that Yeah, even if they haven't
said it directly, I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I've had that word. It's
like Yeah, that's that's me. You're talking about it and nothing worse.
The recital begins, it's going well until Jerry puts the paste dispenser on her
lap. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not really sure why Elaine thought that
was so funny, But that's just life in general. Sometimes things just tickle
you and you just cannot explain why. You just can't stop laughing about it.
It's just oh yeah, and she yells out Joe Gibbs here, it's
like a form of football player or something I don't get. And I've looked
online and no one could work out why she says it when she's laughing,
I'm going to join that group because I've got no idea why she's no.
No. But but as I was saying, no, it's just because I
watched for Nicola Nicholas, Like, why is she laughing so much of this?
I'm like, it's just one of those things where in life you just
sometimes things just make you laugh and no matter and for the next like five
minutes, you find everything hilarious. Well, it strikes me as a perfectly
natural human reaction to being in a very stuffy environment, you know, I
mean you're sitting in a room. You're listening to someone play piano, not
exactly sort of jaunty didn't didn't ingting, but pretty deep classical music she does
Actually I know what she does, actually play. She plays. It's Beethoven's
Wolstein Sonata. So apparently this was the same piece that was played in a
similar scene from George Cooker's Gaslight Oh Okay, in which a person doesn't walk
out laughing, they walk out crying. Well, there you go. But
you know, you're in this situation where, yeah, you've basically got to
be a grown up. You know, it's like, Okay, we've got
our got our good clothes on, and we're gonna sit here very you know,
very seriously, and we're gonna pay attention to this music and we're going
to revel in, you know, just how accomplished this person playing it is,
and to just do something so childish and not even yeah, not clever
at or not inventive, but just like, check this out. It's a
little purchase. It's the most incongrus thing that could happen in the environment.
No, yeah, no, wonder you're going to start laughing, and then
I think in your brain you realize there's nothing funny about this, but it's
funny, and that makes it even funnier. It sort of it becomes of
a petual motion machine laughing. Yeah, yeah, that's I've certainly found that
in your life, in my life, and I'm sure sure you found in
your life as well, that you'll just start laughing at something and you just
can't stop. The fuse has been lit and you can't cut it off anywhere.
I get that sometimes when I'm watching like Classic Simpsons, like when we're
doing our classic reviews, and I'm just like, I just have to pause
it sometimes, and it happened inside at his wife. Sometimes it comes moments
in episodes where go to pause and I'm just like, I can't concentrate right
now that it's just too funny, and I laugh and I cry for like
five minutes, and then I can post myself. I get back to it,
and then I think afterward, I'm like, the moment wasn't even that
funny. Why did I have that response for you? Why why did you
respond to it that way? What was so funny about that? I can't
really explain it. It's as individual as your fingerprints. I mean, I
remember seeing the movie Fantastic Mister fox yep ages and asy I was about ten
years old now. But and there's just a bit of where I think he's
played by Javis Cocker from Pulp and he's singing a song, you know,
I'm about the three Farmers, about Bogus Bunsen Been and one of them comes
in and said, what are your singing? Pete goes. I was just
making it up as I go along and everything It's like, that's just bad.
So that's just weak songwriting. You write a bad song, Pete and
flix a cigarette at him. I laugh for like five minutes straight. People
in the I was singing at a preview, and all the other review was
just looking at me like what the fuck is wrong with him? And why
is he laughing at that so much? Why is he still laughing at it?
He's really kind of disrupting the film for us. But I couldn't stop
until this day when it's on him, like, that's really funny. Did
that old guy did that old review? I have a go at? You
remember the guy had a go at the kid for the phone. What was
his name there was probably Tom Ryan put your phone no way or something?
Didn't even something something like that. Yeah, good, good guy Tom Ryan.
I think he I think he realized, no guys enjoying this, let
him let him have it. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was
not laughing trying to disrupt, and you just are just actually generally enjoying the
film. That's fine. Yeah. I've been enough previews and enough screens and
other stuff where there are certain people they will just, oh, you're letting
us know that you're enjoying this, aren't you. Yeah. I mean it's
not a fake laugh. But it's like you can tell, yeah, yeah,
you can stop that anytime, or you can you can gradually. You
can usually tell. You can usually tell when someone's really laughing, because I'll
spend the first ten twenty seconds or so trying not to laugh loud, and
you can hear that they're like it's killing them inside, not laughing, like
they're not they're not just going ha ha Patton. I was like, they're
just like happy to get this out. You'll go a few you'll go like
ten twenty seconds, and then it'll just reserves a little bubb You try to
think of something else and then you think you immediately think of that again.
You're like, oh, guy, here it comes. I think I had
that. There was the last Terminator movie, that dark fake one. Did
you remember that one? I never watched it. I know what you're talking
about. I never watched it. Was no why I don't think there's a
spoiler. It's not. It's not really m Arnold the Terminator has essentially renounced
being a Terminator. He's still a robot with Arnold's skin on top. Arnold
skin on top, but he's living like a human life and he works as
like a curtains and drapes. Guy, I need to watch this now.
It just on the film, and that should be the whole film. But
that's one bit where he's talking about he was selling selling drapes to someone and
they said they wanted to buy these ones. I said, don't do it.
That's great, and it just started in the out of said I said,
don't do it. We need more, we need more of this Arnold
back I reckon very much so, but I was just, yeah, that
takes me back to like early to mid nineties Arnold. He's still he's still
an action start at the time, but it's when he started dabbling things like
twins and kindergarten copinging all the way. Arnot's a really funny guy. Well
yeah, I mean he knows how to play perfectly against the fact that he's
arned. But he did. He did that commercial a lot long ago for
like was it Tesla in the electric car or something, and he was like,
Zeus, I don't remember that one, and Samahayak was was his wife,
okay, and they're like, I'm getting im tired of living here on
Mount O Limbu's going to go down and live in Los Angeles, and you
know, he and Sama Hyak are like, you know, driving around in
the Tesla and he's recharging everyone's electric ship by using his Zeus lightning bolts.
It's on YouTube. It's actually pretty funny. But yeah, he's got a
good sense of human It was just that whole I said, don't do it,
just kill me. Anyway. Sorry, we're going off on so many
tangents on this on the pees disen this episode is going to run so long.
Yeah, it's fine, but anyway, So Elaine goes outside and she
sees John Moniker. He approaches her outside and she goes, I thought you're
broken up with Jerry Wise. He now, no, no, we have
broken up and it immediately starts hitting on it and I'm like, dude,
not not the time, Like give it, give us some breathing space first.
And we cut to the pez just sitting on the chair. That was
funny, Yes, yeah, yeah, and then John explains that Richie Apple
if their friend, he's messed up on drugs now and I and then suggests
interventional. A lot of people are doing it now, like it was like
a I know, they started doing a lot the sixties of it was like
a fad. And you've explained this in the past, where like late eighties
to the early nineties when it really started picking up steam. Yeah, and
I know the two episodes basically a decade apart. But we just did a
Simpsons episode or four descaded on The Simpsons that had an intervention in it.
It's weird. Everything just next isn't on this show. It's so But John
says that Richie would only ever listened to Jerry. You know, he really
respects Jerry. Cut to Jerry clapping the pets. Yeah. Good performance by
this guy with his name Fred Water who plays John Mulliker. Fred Sanders a
nice blend of just enough creepiness. I mean, he really respects, Jerry,
I've just got in my notes. He's pretty much just a grown up
version of Ralph Wigham, almost like season four, Season five Ralph Wigham,
whereas like everybody says, he goes you know, you know, when Ralph
says, I wouldn't have so many knows but put my finger up there is
that kind of Ralph. Yeah, but yes, basically he's hitting on Elane.
He realized that Joey's not with her anymore, and Joey's just disrupted,
not disrupt him, but just being taken that he has taken the piss just
yeah, being very childish. So now we're backstage where we're waiting for no
While to come out of her room. George, she's having a go at
joe Lane. How could you do that? I'm sorry, George, I'm
sorry. What did you put the pest dispenser on a leg for her in
the first place? I don't know. It was an impulse? What kind
of a sick impulse is there? How could I know she'd start to laugh?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I am Can we just go in already?
What are we gonna tell her? I'll tell her I was the one
who laughs. No, don't say a word. If she thinks my friends
are jerks, then I'm a jerk. Oh, remind me to talk to
you about something later. What about? Hey, Hey, we're discussing something.
I know, but I'm distracted. Now what are you a fable?
All right? Tell her? When I was outside, I ran into John
Molica, really John Molicae, the guy that used to want Barten at the
comedy club. How's he doing? It's good? Could we cut to the
chase? Cut to the chase? Yeah, well, what are you?
Joe? Hollywood? A lot of people say it. I would lose that.
What's that? Lose that? That's not a Hollywood expression? Yes it
is anyway. So John told me that Richie is in town from Los Angeles
and he's really missed up on drugs. So I told him he should do
an intervention, really an intervention. You know your people. We got a
situation over here. Yeah, but he wants you to be a part of
it. He says, Richie really respects you and he would listen to you.
These things are really hard to load. And then entered Noel's room and
she's very embarrassed by what happened. What was she even laughing? At I
thought it's another sort of like sit coming moment, but I thought it was
headed very well. What were they even laughing at pears? But he's offering
her a pears at the same time, I thought it was very good.
Jerry then rubs into a lane. You know, only a sick, twisted
mind could be so rude and ignorant, or maybe some mental defective puts something
stupid on her leg there just having having you go to each Noel doesn't realize
it's a lane. At this point, Noel Dan says she will never forget
that laugh, and she says that You're like, well, I know where
this is going. Okay, well we gotta hear that again. Now.
I'm not sure or this would have aired first obviously, yeah, because The
Nanny started ninety three, But it was a very similar episode of The Nanny
where Alton John was the guest star and she says something or whatever, and
she's like, maybe it's performing whatever, but and like Fran find your dat
you who in her voice? But then and for the entire episode, he's
like, there was some annoying person and that voice just annoyed me. And
she realized it was her, and at the end, she yells out to
Alton and she says it and he realized that I was like, ah,
and then he just completely stole that story from this episode. Like that's literally
just did did you ever watch The Nanny? I almost loved Danny when I
was growing up. I watched my share of episodes. Absolutely, you never
really see it anymore. It's not obviously syndications who watches free to air television
anymore. But yeah, he's a honest streaming s's. That's not one of
those shows that gets talked about all that often anymore. Every once in a
while, so I'm want to bring it up and like, oh, fran
Dresser, you know, Comic Powerhouse and Fashion Icon and all this kind of
stuff. I mean, I think there's a lot of love out there for
The Nanny. Whether it's it's love, I think the Nanny enjoy I think
the Nanny just it's just got a wholesomeness to it, hasn't it. I
think so? Yeah, and I think the two were kind of indistinguishable.
Yeah, it's I think people love the Nanny, but yeah, mostly they
love for end Dresser. You're right, Yeah, so the world doesn't feel
like going out he says, how do you prepare for for the evening playing
recital? Just cracked my knuckles. I remember when I was younger, I
hated people cracking my knuckles that the sound of it usaid to send chills down
my spine. I would like scream, I blocked my ears. I want
to hear it. I want to hear it. I cracked my knuckles all
the time. Now I just I just do it. It's like once I
once I did it. I think once I leant down and put my this
kind of motion, just like a closed fist, and leant down and my
knuckles cracked. And I was like, oh, that's not so bad.
It feels quite good. And the physio at um at four and I used
to work at Ford many moons ago. I remember him saying to me that
there's no issue with crack because everyone know says you don't crack your knuckle when
you get arthritis. But he told me cracking your knuckles is good because it's
releasing all the built up gas or something that's built up in there. That's
what the sounds a unk. Yeah, who am I going with? Am
I going with the people that tell me that's going to give me up the
writis on my going with the professional here what it wants to go with the
go with the broke. I mean I used to do the thing where it
I don't know if you can see what I'm That's what I was just doing
before. Yeah, you're cracking like that, Yeah, yeah, just sort
of you don't. Sometimes sometimes I get a finger against Nikola because Nicola hates
it, hates it. Sometimes I put my finger against it like this.
You can't see obviously, listeners, but I just rusted my finger against it
and just sort of move my hand and it cracks it. She freaks out.
Yeah. By the way, yes, listeners, we are actually be
doing a whole lot of hand just showing each other how we crack our knuckles.
Um, I was doing the thing with it looks like air quotes.
Yeah. Yeah, you put one finger on top of the other. Crack,
crack, Ye, enough about the crack, Enough about the cracking.
I thought this next moment was very rel edible, and we've all been in
this moment where she just goes I I don't feel like it. We're just
back away now very slowly and just keep my mouth shut. We've all been
that point where we think we're just having fun and we don't realize we're pushing
pushing any buttons like let's go out. I don't feel like going out.
Let's just got to go for a drink. I said, I didn't want
to. Okay, okay, maybe I'll call you later and talk. We're
now at Monks and Jerry thinks Kramer indirectly is involved in getting which he hooked
on the Jergs because he suggested dumping gatorade on Marty Benson's head after they had
to come back win playing. I want to say softball the baseball one of
the two actually based on a real incident. Yeah, yeah, So do
you want to explain to the listeners what it was? How about you do
it? I was based on the death of Hall of Fame football coach George
Allen. Apparently in nineteen ninety he was doused in gatorade with gatorade shower and
forty four days later he unfortunately passed away. Coincidence or not. I wonder
if at the time doing this was seen as too soon because it would have
been all over the news that happening in America might have been a big deal
here in Australia, but that would have been huge news in America, and
just two years later they're almost poking fun at it on Seinfeld. Would that
have sort of raised a few eyebrows? Do you think? I don't think
so. I think I think enough people are getting doused with gatorade and for
this one person that I was like, no, I think we can get
away with it. Yeah. So Mrdy Benson passed away from pneumonia. Now
he's dead. The comedians were happy because he wasn't a very nice guy apparently,
but you know, Richie was never the same. What about Kramer?
Oh no, he's the same. When out Jerry's apartment and John wants to
have the intervention there, my friend, she's not very confrontational. I don't
want to. I wouldn't want to have it at my house either, because
if they get angry, she starts going phone around the room. No way,
Oh yeah, no, I'm not definitely not having an intervention at my
place. Forget. I think it's gonna it's gonna be like a place where
they feel safe. Though It's true, it's got to be a comfort zone
and take them out of the comfort zone. Yeah, yeah, Cramer wants
he wants in on the intervention that I have this down exactly one of my
favorite moments. It's like, well, can I get in on that.
Also, I know a lot of people think Cramer is a fashion icon.
I'm not. This is only one of those people. I did like the
pink shirt he was wearing with like the is it like a flamingo or some
kind of bird on it? He doesn't like. We'll say it just has
a quality, Michael Richards where you just like, you're not necessarily a good
looking guy, but there's just something about the animalistic drawer of you. Yes,
it's the vibe you put out. Oh, yes, that's definitely a
vibe. Yes see, sometimes vibe works. Yeah yeah, I feel like
I feel like you'll be interfering while we're intervening. But anyway, so they
say Kramer can be a part of it. George is on his way up
and Cramer that gives the idea for the beach. Stop smelling your arm.
You know, I got a great idea for along. It's called the beach.
You're sprayder and it's just like you came home from the beach. M
a cologne that smells like the beach. I can't believe I am saying this,
but that's not a bad idea. Why don't you call Steve to Jeff.
He worked in the marketing department at Calvin Kline. In fact, he's
a good friend of John Marliker and Richie. Also, if this show was
made now, I guarantee you they would have had the Beach in production selling
it in stores by the Christmas time, I imagine. So yes, I'm
really surprised they didn't. Maybe it was just like a Jerry thing because he
was very hesitant to license anything Sinfeld related until even until recently. But apparently
it was a case of because they did the Poco pops and things like that,
but they're released like twenty five at once. Because I think it was
just a case of Sinfeld were like, you can make your pops and then
we're finished. It's not going to be a long drawn out thing. But
you know, very very rarely was Sinfeld licensed in the nineties. He very
rarely saw Seinfold merchandise in stores anywhere. Not to the best of my recollection,
No, no, no no, but yeah, it seems like a
an opportunity to waste it there. I definitely, I definitely if I was
a Seinfeld fan would have purchased the beach, even if it's just for the
novelty of it, you know, just to own it. But he says
to call Steve at Calvin Klein with the idea he might like it, and
George's he's depressed. He's sad. He can sense that she's going to break
up with him, so he's like, no, no, I was talking
to on the phone. I even had a list prepared. Good reversing my
car post was more popular drink. I just love the good at reversing my
car. I'm terrible at parallel parking. But sometimes I'm in the car of
Nicola because Nikola King just nail and every time right. Sometimes I'm in the
car and I can see there's a park. Then I'm like, if I
drive past that, I'm going to look like a little man. I need
to I need to do this. So I get there, and then when
I managed to pour it off inside, I'm just like, you did that.
End the day. It's just the parallel park Oh yeah, But I
mean if you do it, it's like one go. Yeah, you're just
feeling like such a big man. Yeah, yeah, you're not having to
go crunch hit the Okay, I'm gonna go back. Oh my angles are
all off. That was my fear when I first met Nikola. I'm like,
I don't want to. It's like, if I drive past it,
I seem like I chickened out. But if I tempt it and fuck it
up? What's worse a fucking up a parallel park or just going just going
no, I just can't do it. Owning up to it and finding an
angle park? What's I feel? And I went with it. I just
can't do it. I'm going with an angle park. When I first was
like, Daddy, Nicola, I'm like, yeah, I'm like parallel parking.
I was angle park, and inside she's probably thinking, just fucking go.
I would have went pussy. But I think that was definitely better because
if you're if you're like a third or fourth date and the guy is driving
you around, can't parallel park and people are honking down because he keeps sucking
it up, that's going to leave a lasting impression. I think it is.
Yeah, I think I think he made the right move just so well,
I've been married for ten years. I think so. But yeah,
there's nothing there's nothing wrong I think with admitting your failures, you know what
I mean in the sense of just going I just can't do it, you
know, I just I just can't. Yeah, can you parallel park?
I'm fucking I'm shocking at it. No, I'm really good at it,
but I'm pretty sure I toppla. Yeah. I can't drive manual. I
don't know how. I'm the same too, And I was. I was
going for a job like six months ago, and I basically had the job,
and then the guy was like, but you can drive manual. Yeah,
And I was like, oh, I can learn. He's like,
oh, you can't drive manual. And inside I'm like, oh, I
feel so small right now. He looked at me, like, you little
man, how can you not drive manual? You're pathetic. I just felt
so shit. I was like, yeah, I just I just I tried.
I tried to get my license doing a manual, and I was just
fucking it's too hard, man. Yeah. Look I tried a few times,
and I'm just like, this is too many moving parts. You know,
I've got pieces, too many of them. I've got shit hand eye
coordination. I mean, I can't play the piano, you know. It's
like, okay, so that foot goes down by that one goes up and
then I move this hand to do that thing. I'm like, no,
I'm just gonna put it in D and point it in the direction I want
to go them. I just my theory is, if it can be done
easier, why not do it easier? Like some people, I like to
have the control over the car. And I'm like, that's fine, that's
stupid. If I can, if I can just put it in D and
just drive that way and point the car, then why would I not do
that? Anyway? So she um she suggested lunch. Noel, She's just
lunch. It's like being demoted, you know. You start off with lunch
and you wake you up the dinner. Go with the lunch. You being
demoted. He wants the hand and Ker says to him, why don't you
break up with her? Yeah, the preemptive Breakup's like, that's brilliant.
It's a great idea. So we cut to the um. We cut to
the breakup with Noel at Monks. So, I'm afraid that I am gonna
have to break up with you. You're breaking up puss me. Yes,
i I'm breaking up with you. Wow, shocked, I really am never
expected this, did you? I thought, everything's fine, let it learn
well, I don't understand you didn't enjoy being with me, didn't we have
thundering the crossword puzzle? Kind of very confused? It didn't mean to hurt
your kid, I thought, not stop it? Please? What do you
want? I know I can make you happy when when you're playing the piano,
do you think about me? I don't know. This is what I'm
talking about. Okay, I'll think about you all the time all the time,
you know, okay, all the time. I can't hear you all
the time. So I love the cognisants. Never expected this, did you?
It's quintessential George. How we can just you live and learn? Yeah,
take what is potentially a good idea. I'm not sure how I feel
if this is a good idea or not. But then a good comedy was
never made out of people acting rationally. Well, but this is the thing
that the whole a lot of the beauty of science felt is people doing things
that would not work in real life. But the response they get is how
in your mind you hoped it would work out, but it never does,
like an like that, like in reality, if you said this to a
girl. She would never say to you, I know I can make you
happy, tell me what you want me to do. That's not what happens,
but that's what we wanted to happen. Sci Felt gives us out our
fantasies. True, but that's also yeah, just taking that one step too
far, and it's like, oh, this could have ended well for you,
but instead you've just had to push it. Just that one or two
or three steps too far. George, don't abuse your hand, is what
I've written down here When he says, um, I want you to think
about me while you're playing, right, I thought that this was going to
end because I couldn't quite remember how this one ended. I thought this was
going to end with her playing terribly and then Jerry and linger what happened up?
But I didn't laugh this time, and he'll just go she was thinking
of me and that would be the punch line and then that's it. But
anyway, so cramming our shows, Steve cleve and climbed the smell and he
says the dumbest idea he's ever heard, objectionable fancive odor the road. It's
because he's still in the idea. He wants Crammed to think that he's not
going to use it, throwing him off the scent you might say, clever.
So they're preparing for them for the intervention, and John's here talking about
his blood. Nos, I'm just gonna here. This is very rough,
Wigham. If I'm a Lane, I'm just like, I don't want to
be talking to this guy at all anyway. But we've got the guy who's
angry at Joe for having no ice cubes. I'm like, this guy seems
like somewhat of a loose cannon. I must have been initially thought that was
Richie. Yeah, that's what I thought as well. Yeah, but now
he's just some random guy who's angry at the world. And they get out
on Jerry for not having ask what he's gonna drink. I can't trick this.
It's warm. I'm like, okay, don't you think of then,
But nobody, nobody wants to talk at the At the intervention, I think
Kramer walks in and takes the mickey out of what was said earlier, and
he's like, is this the interference? Just not taking it seriously? In
the Polar Bear, But he's all arrived as well. Well, you don't
want to be a polar bear anymore, too cold, old boy. Then
we get the buzzer and everyone hides it's not a surprise party. What are
you doing? Elane doesn't think it's appropriate that John's hitting on her at this
point in time, when I completely agree, and then it's George and Noel
and he says that, you know it's gone to plans so much hand it's
coming out of my gloves. The male kangaroo doesn't have a pouch, only
the female has it. So the male has pouch. Why should she have
this huge pouch? And I have nothing. I have things to carry to
a please at please give me a pocket. I just thought this guy absolutely
nailed this moment. He was giving like three or fall on the dialogue there
and I just thought he was just hit it out of the pod. Was
so good, just killed it every time. Yeah, to the point where
Elaine has to laugh. Laugh, that's the laugh. That's it. You're
the one accident. If it wasn't my fault, it was Jerry. Jerry
put a pen dispencer on my La has dispencer on her land during my recital.
I didn't know she would laugh. And you you like to me,
George, you like to men? What would I do? Where are you
going? I am breaking up with you? You could can't break up with
me. I've good hand and you're gonna need it. A very well written,
if not cliche ending to this story, but I really enjoyed it.
It's like something you would expect on the end of Just shoot Me. Yep,
And that's not a bad thing. Just shoot Me as a perfectly you
would sitcom. Definitely is another sitcom that doesn't get talked about less than any
even it's like, just just shoot me. He's just never existed. You
never see you, never hear anyone talking about it. I love Just Shoot
Me. And I don't know if it's on any streaming service or you have
to go to one of the digital channels of the Freedomware Networks syndicate. I've
got season one and two. I think it is on DVD as a box
set and m yeah, I love to Just Shoot Me. I thought it
was a great show. Yeah. You tend to think of Seinfeld as like
a cut above or its own thing as opposed I mean, it's a sitcom,
of course it is, but it was generational. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, So it's odd, as we always said that it sort of ends
on a bump kind of line. But you know a really really good example
of that. I mean, yeah, like I said, if you're in
the writer's room and someone's talking about hand to go, well you're gonna need
your hand. Oh perfect, you know, high fives. Richie then arrives,
he doesn't know what's going on. And the next day Jerry's just describing
how the intervention went down to George's ms, you can't do the crossway.
He can't do it. He's just too sad. Jerry explains that Richie was
hostile and he was talking about to everybody, and then he spotted the Pez
di Spencer sides a full circle. Now the Pez the Spencer. This is
perfect Jerry delivery as well. I mean when you sort of talk about Seinfeld
voice, just the thing he's doing green and the rehab, he's hogged down
pears. Yeah, yes, such, its almost like he's doing stand up.
It is. And if you're doing a Jerry Seinfeld impersonation, that's not
a go to line, but that's very much the rhythm of sound. So
but yeah, he says that when he's when he was a kid, his
father was driving the car and he was trying to load a Pez Di spencer
and lost control crashed into a school cafeteria. No one was hurt, but
the pez was destroyed beyond recognition. And then yeah, two hours later after
the intervention, he checked himself to a clinic. He's doing well because,
as he said, he's looked dumb. Pearz And this is where we get
another it's a really written Seinfeld. This one like it felt like it felt
sitcommy and Sinfeld, despite the fact that it is a sitcom, doesn't usually
feel sitcommy. And that might just sound bizarre and stupid, but do you
know what I mean, It doesn't feel like your cliche sitcom banter. But
this did true. But Dan, we've been very fortunate on in the Forefinger,
just getting network to talk to various people who run show. Yes,
Matt Salmon for instance, show run now of the Simpsons, and yeah,
they talk about how or even if you just read about or hear about sitcoms
or TV shows in general, how Yeah, an episode may have someone's name
on it, but often it's a collaborative effort. It's a result of a
collaborative effort. I mean I'm not sure if it was the case that Larry
David actually did write all this himself, or you know, you had a
few other people saying, well what about this one, about this one?
About this? This almost feels like an opportunity that we're the writers in the
writer's room sort of took it and ran with it. Everybody out of their
two cents, almost like an audition piece for Hey, I'd like to go
and work for the Simpsons too, you know, or I'd like to write
or just shoot me in one of it's other there are some very sitcomy lines.
I mean, as you said, the closing out with what's a three
letter word for candy? It's like, yeah, that's a that's a sitcom
closh, Yeah, I know what you're doing. There, we're close three
letters p's Yeah, there you go. Then we end up some stand up
talking about jaw Break because been the ultimate challenge candy market as some sort of
experiment. I was always too scared of I put that in my mouth would
go straight in my throat and kill me. I always had this fear of
I think maybe it was seeing the movie Jawbreaker, the movie Jawbreaker with the
girls in the boot with a jawbreaker in the mouth. I think you choked
and died, correct, Yeah, yes, I never ate. When after
that that movie got to me, I was like, fuck, that could
actually happen. I don't know, but yeah, I was never a found
that. I just never got the fascination with jaw breakers. I had a
couple of friends that loved them, and I'm like, there's not that much
taste to them. They hurt your teeth, teeth, there's a fear of
dying. I don't get it. None of these are winners, no,
not at all. Just give me some none of these are selling points.
Give me some whiz fizz. I feel like you would have been a kid
that snorted whiz fizz. Is that right? No? I never did that
at all? What even a huge whiz fizz guy. Yeah, it's like
I get this. I get the young I like pop rocks, Okay,
yeah, I have that sensation on my tongue, like the popping candy Santa
Alves. Like at Christmas time you always get the popping candy Elves chocolate.
Do you ever eat that pup pupping candy? Yeah, whiz fars just felt
like a It's hard to describe whizzards would just feel like a bit of a
like a sizzle on your tongue. I liked whiz fis, but there's always
a point where you're like halfway through the bag where it was like caked on
the spoon and it was just it wasn't picking up as much anymore and your
fingers were getting all wet because yeah, I don't know, it's a good
analogy for cocus. Yeah, you know. I just have a mate though,
who's it was hype. But he's get the whist fist written the bag
and just like straight into the mouth. He wouldn't use a spoon, it
was just straight in. Oh my god, did he look like he had
rabies? Yeah, it was it was foaming at them out. Yeah,
but you'd behave that way anyway. Yeah, you get that sort of low
level sizzle if you have a bit of whizzards on the time, but pop
rocks if it was like yeah, yeah, it's like yeah, they've turned
up the heat. Great. All right, Well that is our review of
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