WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:07.599 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagon Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:13.560 fourteen fifteen, powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions 3 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:18.559 kat z R two SAD and iHeart Radio Station. Hey, good afternoon, 4 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:21.320 everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 5 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:26.719 I'm Steve Rivero alongside partner Jagon's Oss. Welcome to Wednesday. Show should be 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.000 a fun one hump day, Steve, I'm ready, man, hump Day. 7 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.520 It's not. This hasn't been too slow, hasn't been too fast. 8 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:35.920 So we're good. Yep, we're good. You won't be Friday. You 9 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:38.520 won't be here. I won't be here Friday. I got ah. It's 10 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:43.479 the family memorial service that I've got to attend. So I'll be out out 11 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:47.079 again on Friday. Just one of those days that you gotta take. So 12 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.880 that said, we're gonna make our picks tomorrow, right, We're can do 13 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:52.920 our our Friday picks on Thursday again. This time, I've promised I'll get 14 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:56.640 them up. That's close for me, and I was happy I didn't last 15 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.880 week because that was so bad. I'm awful. I'm two for ten Steve's 16 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:04.120 seven for ten. So I'm getting killed already and I'm okay with this. 17 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:10.000 We'll wait till the end of the year when I'm probably my Champagne. Okay, 18 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:11.640 no, cool, cool. We have a guest in the house, 19 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:15.760 Sammy. Yeah, Sammy might join us, potential U intern for US. 20 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.439 Uh. He doesn't know what he's getting into. He has no idea what 21 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.159 he's getting into. But welcome. Thanks for being here, Sammy. Hey, 22 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.480 thank you guys for having me. And excited for what's to come. 23 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.519 All right, we might eventually get him to stop being a journalist, trying 24 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:32.359 him go to the business world. Well, Chris isn't gonna be in here, 25 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.519 so that Oh yeah, take god, Yeah, we're already step ahead. 26 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:38.680 We are, we are so anyway, the good thing is you've got 27 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:42.799 and pointed out that he was totally wrong. He was, and yeah, 28 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:46.719 we got him convinced that he was wrong and saying that Arizona was supposed to 29 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.640 be I tried to convince him, and you got him convinced because there was 30 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.640 all his word, his verbage. Yeah, he was saying they were supposed 31 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:53.359 to beat him. No they were not. Yeah they were not. They 32 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.719 were never supposed to beat him. They could have beat him, and some 33 00:01:57.840 --> 00:01:59.840 might argue say that at the in the you know, at the end of 34 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:01.280 the game, they should have beat him, but they weren't supposed to be. 35 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:05.519 They were ten nine and a half, ten point underdogs, these country 36 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:09.039 guys. Okay, so cool, okay, uh calls today, who do 37 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:13.360 we have on the should well we got we hadn't heard from Greg Hanson a 38 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.599 couple of months. Uh, We're not gonna go back and rehash all the 39 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.319 stuff. I'd like to hear what he's got to say about, you know, 40 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.919 the Wildcats right now? You know the Pac twelve. What's going on? 41 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:27.520 I mean, you know the paclass twenty and three in in non conference 42 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:30.840 games and uh, just you don't see what he's doing. I can assume 43 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.919 he's still up in Colorado playing golf or whatever. Took him forever to get 44 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.960 back to me this morning, so I figured he was. He was, 45 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:39.919 you know, out on the links. But Greg will join us, a 46 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:45.840 good old friend, and then we're gonna go through a little learning uh uh, 47 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:51.400 a learning session. We're gonna learn about college triathlon. We got the 48 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.280 head coach of the Arizona women's triathlon team, West Johnson. It's a new 49 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:59.120 sported Arizona. They've had their first meet and apparently it was a very good 50 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.240 showing. They took second place in a in a meet up at a s 51 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:07.680 u as us A triathlon power I guess six national championships. So the fact 52 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.960 that Arizona finished second to them in their first ever meet, uh, it 53 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.439 was a pretty good deal. So we'll talk to West. So we'll we'll 54 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:19.000 we'll introduce him, he'll will introduce ourselves to him, and uh, talk 55 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:21.919 a little bit about what traathlon is all about. I really, I mean 56 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:23.000 I had to go look it up. But you know, a traathlon is 57 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:27.400 officer, you compete in three good types of events. I had to find 58 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.039 faut what are they? Right? Well? Really, yeah, it's it's 59 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:34.639 cycling, swimming, and running. Sure, right? And uh, if 60 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:38.000 you're making me exercise so I'm already tired. Yeah, it's gonna you know, 61 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:42.479 I would do each of those once a month. I'm not sure I'm 62 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:45.919 going to do them all within a couple of hours of each other. Give 63 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:47.159 me, give me a mile on each of them. Okay, you don't 64 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.719 give me a time limit, Steve, I still haven't gotten on my bikes 65 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:54.120 since the l Tour two years ago. I don't plaids gathering doesn't. But 66 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:58.520 we're on a record pace to get them the most ever. So okay, 67 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:00.639 So that's one of those guests. On the other one is well Greg and 68 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:05.919 the and the graphic Greg at three fifteen West Johnson, the traathlon coach Pad 69 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:11.159 four fifty. Okay, mister, okay, cool cool? What else is 70 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:15.400 going on? Just they had another press press Cusha. Did they have anythings 71 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.839 tomorrow? Yeah, we'll have Jet, We'll have je Fish tomorrows will play 72 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:20.720 some clips of getting ready to go, you know, go play play U 73 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:26.959 tap you know to me Steve, the buzz around. Uh, the football 74 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.199 team is really all about Jaden, Laura. That's all. I'm sure you 75 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.959 know. And I'm trying to tell people what I thought we heard from Jed 76 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.759 Fish was deal with it. Yeah, this is who he is, This 77 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:41.560 is who he's gonna be. You just hope that when he when bad Jaden 78 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.639 is out, it doesn't cost you a game, but you're gonna see bad 79 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.160 Jaden sure probably from here until he leaves. Get the good with the bad. 80 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.199 You just you just do. You just hope that the good Jaden is 81 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:55.759 way better than the bad Jaden is bad. Right, it comes to me 82 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.600 and I tell you this all the time. Well, they'll learn from this, 83 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.560 No, because if you are who he knows, Yeah, of course, 84 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:04.600 should I put this ball in that place? Let me try. I'll 85 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:09.439 give you a perfect example. Nine out of ten quarterbacks, nine out of 86 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:12.839 ten, ten out of ten. I give you ten quarterbacks. How many 87 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:17.079 are doing that sneak without permission? None of them? Exactly except for one? 88 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.680 Right right? What he's your quarterback? Yeah? Here, Michael Wiley. 89 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:24.879 You know he's in the backfield. He did not know that was happening, 90 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:27.879 and he just he and then all of a sudden he sees Jayden trying 91 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.600 to pile through the through the line. Then he sees Kyle H. McLaughlin 92 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:33.040 go up and start pushing him. So he jumps in and pushing it. 93 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:36.000 So let me, let me make let me make this example, because I 94 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:41.439 know your history with you with your father. You do something, he tells 95 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:45.759 you, how you do this, you're ask his mind, but you're gonna 96 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.600 do it. Hell no, Well, let me say this. I'm glad 97 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:54.079 you. I'm glad I'm gonna I did a lot of things my dad didn't 98 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.720 know didn't know and didn't I knew he didn't want me to do, but 99 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.920 he didn't know. Okay, but what if he would have did? And 100 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.000 what if you would have got in trouble for it? I mean got in 101 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:06.000 trouble for it and then he found out. I you know, I'm not 102 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:11.000 gonna say that I took time a lot of time in doing this, but 103 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:15.639 I evaluated my risk and my reward even every time you're following run into my 104 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.959 trump. So so now I think that Dolora knows exactly what that risk. 105 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:23.439 He knows where the line. He knows where that line is. Had he 106 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:29.279 not completed that, everything changes and everything changes with the game, But what 107 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.240 does a change with with the relationship. While you would think I would think 108 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:35.360 that and that the trust factor would take a bit of a hit, I 109 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:39.839 don't know how much of a trust factor. He did it without anyone, 110 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:45.800 but the point being that right now jet Fish just trusts him to to to 111 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:48.839 make make make decisions that work. Okay, that would happen to work, 112 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:53.319 now, you know? Is it? The other way is that did his 113 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:58.759 trust and Jade and Dolora increase because he made that play? This is different 114 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:00.480 though, this is different and give you a scenario. Okay, they go 115 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.680 to the line, they're they're talking over the play before it goes to the 116 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.519 line. He'say, coach, I have na idea if I see something catty 117 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:12.079 womp us on their end, I'm gonna try this, right, I'm gonna 118 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.040 try this. If I don't, I ain't doing this. Yeah, he 119 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:16.879 didn't even go didn't do that. He just did it. But wouldn't you 120 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.759 say, Okay, if I see And then Jenna say, but however you 121 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:23.120 feel if you see it, go for it. Does that make sense? 122 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.600 Yeah? And I think you know, I put put myself in in more 123 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.279 of a dad position, right. I think my kid does something like that. 124 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:33.959 He does something that I probably wouldn't have given the okay, or I 125 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:38.959 would have thought, but it works. I'm like, Okay, I get 126 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:43.120 it. You know you didn't crash the car. Uh, you didn't screw 127 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.160 up your life, right, right? But you know what, don't do 128 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:47.839 that again? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you know 129 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:53.240 what you do? Sure, sure, don't do that again. But do 130 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:59.879 you know he's gonna well that and that and that's the that's the day, 131 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:05.680 Delora that I think we all have to get used to that that he's gonna 132 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:11.800 take chances. Sometimes they're gonna work and sometimes they're not, and you just 133 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:16.959 hope the ones that don't work don't kill you, right right, I think 134 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.759 that's I think, and I think that we're looking at a season long. 135 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.720 But but think of it, Steve, were you happy that it worked? 136 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:26.759 I was. I'm like, okay, he you know, he pulled it 137 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.519 out. Now I saw the film. I don't know if you saw the 138 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:35.279 the you know, the number of replays, I don't think he ever got 139 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:39.000 in, but you couldn't tell. And the rest said he was in, 140 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.679 So that was all that mattered. So the gut one, I think that 141 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.919 I didn't I see. I was watching where his feet were, okay, 142 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.480 because everybody was standing straight up, nobody, you know, he didn't dig 143 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.440 in. He went in, you know, so all you saw were feet. 144 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.759 His feet never got to the goal line, and with the angle that 145 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:03.799 he body was, body was thinking. I don't know that he got in. 146 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.799 And then he got the ball taken away from him and the guy and 147 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.159 he falls into the endzle but now he doesn't have the ball. But they 148 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.639 called it a touchdown. If they had called it no touchdown, you would 149 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.879 have been, they wouldn't have turned it over because you couldn't see him. 150 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.240 Yeah, well so it worked. I'm like, Okay, it worked, 151 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.240 but I'm kind of like the same thing. I'm like, now that I 152 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.519 found out that nobody else was in on it, I'm like, Jaden, 153 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.360 you maybe shouldn't do that, or at least he said, tell, you 154 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.240 know, tell Jed you know if if if there's an opening, I'm taking 155 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:43.080 it and he and Jed says okay, sure, then you go right right, 156 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.279 So there's that trust factor. Jayden didn't tell him and he didn't know, 157 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.679 nobody knew. How's that trust factor? I would have said to coach, 158 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:54.720 there might be a chance where I might do this and and I hope 159 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.519 what do you think? And Jed would have says, well, just kind 160 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:00.679 of okay. If you think that your confident, don't have to get in 161 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:03.279 you can do it, right. But that didn't happen. That didn't happen. 162 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.320 That could have borrow the keys. You're crazy. Yeah, I've seen 163 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.279 you drive. Hey Dad, I'm gonna go ring this doorbell and run. 164 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:15.759 What do you think You better hope they don't have a door dash thing doorbell? 165 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:18.240 Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that kind of stuff. 166 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:22.679 You get caught. But you know again, you know just what what 167 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.960 you know, it's my Wednesday launch. We talked about the game, We 168 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:31.480 talked about everything, and all of the conversation was about Laura and it's gonna 169 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.840 be. I don't think you've had a quarterback like him. We talked about 170 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.759 this right never. I still think Khalil just kind of Cli wasn't okay, 171 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.720 but Click wasn't a gambler. Well, I don't know, but I don't 172 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:46.600 I don't feel I don't know. I don't know about that because here's the 173 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.440 guy who wanted to pass, I know, but all of them, but 174 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:52.639 all those runs that he made, you know, the sea, the sea 175 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.799 parted for him, But they were those weren't you know, gambles except for 176 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:01.080 the issue game when he got hurt on the shoulder before you But yeah, 177 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:05.360 but you know, in terms of a guy that just you know, thinks 178 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.679 he can make all these plays and sometimes he can and sometimes he can't. 179 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:11.039 I don't recall a guy like that. I mean, I guess i'd go 180 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:16.120 back to you wouldn't You wouldn't even seen him? Was Tom Tounecliff who you 181 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:20.440 know who limited athletic ability, short guy, but a good quarterback. He 182 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:24.919 was a good, good, solid quarterback, a very smart quarterback. If 183 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:28.960 you if I you know, if you want me to rank quarterbacks in terms 184 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.759 of you know, how I think they saw the field and their intelligence on 185 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:33.960 the field. You know, you gotta go to guys like ton of Cliff, 186 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.639 Nick Foles. But Johnson Tom Toncliff was you know, was that kind 187 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:45.279 of guy. But he didn't have Jane Delord's athletic ability to do the things 188 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:50.080 that Jane Delord's. But he would make throws that you thought you saw him 189 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.519 winding up to throw. He said, don't throw that, and then he 190 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.679 would throw it. So, Sammy, you're a young dude. You played 191 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:01.320 ball probably what's Woodwood sports pretty much? So you you know the deal. 192 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.759 You you work for the PGA. You know some of those big ego guys, 193 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.639 there's not anything they can't do, right, They've been doing this. 194 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.960 No one's gonna tell him no. So this is Jaden's been this guy all 195 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.000 his life, right, no one's gonna tell him. I could I could 196 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:15.720 pull this off him just to be a little to use a golf thing. 197 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.960 Tiger Woods never never saw a shot that he didn't think he could Yeah, 198 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.320 because he was that guy. Well, I think you can look at Jordan 199 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:24.879 Spi, I mean he's the main guy. Him and him and his caddie 200 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.600 go back and forth all the time, and at the end of the day, 201 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.080 Jordan will hit the shot that he wants to hit before the caddy will 202 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.639 get in his ear. And half the time he's good enough to make that 203 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:41.159 shot work. But there's a handful of time it doesn't, right, Sure, 204 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:43.000 But that's the ego in them, This is you can pull this off. 205 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.919 And there are a lot of golfers like that, right those guys are 206 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.399 you know there the best, the best they see a shot and they they 207 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.360 see something we don't see and they hit that shot. And you know, 208 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.279 the great ones make the shots all the time, and the bad ones are 209 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.720 you know, on the corn face. You also don't know the limitations, 210 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.639 right, they don't. There's a there's a saying there's there's no golf shot. 211 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.679 A golfer doesn't think you can't hit. I'm dude, I do that. 212 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.000 I'm sitting there and I've got I've got ten feet between two trees where 213 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:15.360 i could chip straight out left, get back on the fairway. I'm going 214 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.799 between the trees because I think I can make that shot and then I hit 215 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.600 the tree every time, well every time. It doesn't surprise you. Come 216 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.559 on, That's that's the way it is. But but you know, I 217 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:31.039 again, we're you know, we're uh, I'm I'm I'm dating myself, 218 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:37.200 you know, more and more towards Okay, just you know, close your 219 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:41.840 eyes sometimes and see what happens and hope, hope for the best, you 220 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:43.759 know. And and Steve, there's gonna be times when you're gonna want that. 221 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:46.919 You know, You're you're playing against Washington. You you know, you 222 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:52.440 need a guy to make a play, and nobody's making plays and Jane Delord 223 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.279 makes a play and you go, I'm glad we have it, right. 224 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:56.519 I mean, I feel like that. That's what it's going to kind of 225 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:01.759 be like here the rest of this year with with de Laura. Okay, 226 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.840 yeah, uh you want to take the break out. We're just about a 227 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.840 few seconds ahad. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, we're gonna get Greg 228 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:11.480 Hanson in. We'll talk about all the stuff going on and uh, just 229 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.200 you know, getting some of his thoughts. I'm I'm guessing he'll watch the 230 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.000 game because it's still it's not a job, but he's still you know, 231 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.840 talking about the wildcats and stuff. So see what what what he's got to 232 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:22.720 say, and uh, where things are at. And then again you know, 233 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.399 to maybe talk a little bit about the PAC twelve they're having they're having 234 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.600 a huge year. Uh and the and the SEC on the flip side is 235 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.000 looking down. So we'll talk to Greg Hanson here in a couple of minutes. 236 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:48.639 So stick around. 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You're Jenkins aus Now on the phone. 323 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.000 We haven't we haven't, we haven't. Greg you're there, Yeah, 324 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:21.960 how you're doing. We're trying to call you. It's just like, oh 325 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:25.160 no three men a baby. No, it was our fault. I kept 326 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.319 saying this called can I go? Can I be completed? So do I 327 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:32.799 hate? It's us? It's our Do I hate you? And you're probably 328 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:37.319 living in the seventy two degrees so you stop in Colorado? Man, Yeah, 329 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.160 it wasn't. It was fifty eight today. I'm cold. It's supposed 330 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:47.359 to snow. I heard sometimes it's on the top of the mountain yet almost 331 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.000 time to pack. Do you just not even live here anymore? Do you 332 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.000 just like to come here like a couple of weekends a year. What's your 333 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.880 deal? No, man, I'm mister Tucson him. I'll be there in 334 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.680 about two weeks. Okay, all right, you're not miss much. Hundred 335 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.759 and two. I heard it was raining today in the middle of the day. 336 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:08.119 My sister got her roof torn off in Scottsdale last night. The rich 337 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:12.640 people problems. Oh wow, yeah. Yeah. So anyway, hey man, 338 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:15.920 so what are you up to you? I'm I'm I'm I'm assuming you're 339 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.920 watching what's going on out there with with Colorado, with Arizona with the pac 340 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.440 twelve. Oh yeah, you know, first of all, let's talk about 341 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:29.599 Arizona. You watch the game Saturday, But where do you think they are? 342 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:32.359 You know, with this whole thing about Jaden Delora and he's, you 343 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.640 know, the gun slinger and I call him bad Jayden comes out and all 344 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:40.359 that kind of stuff, some of your thoughts and all that. I thought 345 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:44.200 by the fourth quarter and after that that Arizona had the better team. They 346 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:48.519 just obviously, you know, I couldn't pull it off. But after that 347 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.000 first quarter, I thought the boy Arizona is actually the superior club here. 348 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:59.839 And I couldn't turn out that way. But I still think Jaden Delora is 349 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.039 really when there was going to had a better quarterback than Jane Delora ex said 350 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.920 Nick Foles. Well, we were just talking about that, and I threw 351 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:10.000 it back to you know, I'm trying to think of a guy who just 352 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:14.160 a type of Yeah, who was the type of quarterback who got back there 353 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.960 and felt that he could make every throw, whether he could or not. 354 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:21.599 I threw it all the way back to Tom Tunecliff that, you know, 355 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.839 because he threw a ton of interceptions. You remember that, Yeah, I 356 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.160 do remember that. Why do you do that? Because he because he thought 357 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.519 he could make the throw. There's your guy, Jane, there's it's a 358 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:36.039 good pick. Yeah to Jane knew him and I knew him. I was 359 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:41.039 the beat man man. He was just he was a self believer. He 360 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:47.240 was like five eleven if that, and he just was tough as nails. 361 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:51.599 I mean, how many big time games did Tom pull out? Beat number 362 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:56.960 one USC beat number two, UCLA knocked off a su when they were going 363 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:03.720 to the Rose Bowl, in nineteen eighties, eighties too, but he had 364 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.279 nowhere near the physical tools that do. Laura asked, right again, if 365 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:11.480 you were the beat guy, what was the underlying thing about Tom that struck 366 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:17.440 you? And I'm hoping you answer how I was asking a question. Well, 367 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:21.319 those those Larry Smith's teams were built on toughness. Yeah, there was 368 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.920 no finesse, and Tom was tough. I don't think he ever missed the 369 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:27.400 game. In fact, I'm sure he didn't miss the game. And he 370 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:33.759 was knocked around, knocked down. But I remember the first first time I 371 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.039 ever talked to him in person. I was bigger than him. I couldn't 372 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:41.640 believe it, and he was just gutty and I was a winner. And 373 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:47.640 of course he wasn't NFL material, and it wasn't anywhere near as fast as 374 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:52.799 do Laura didn't have the arm do Laura asked, But that's who I think. 375 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.720 The Lord just has the the dare in him the ton of Cliff had. 376 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.680 That's great. I was thinking, confident, that was the word I 377 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.960 was. Dare. Yeah, the dare the fearlessness they believe in himself. 378 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.480 And yeah, I mean that's that, That's what it seems to me. 379 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.440 Is that, you know, he doesn't have any fear about stuff, and 380 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:15.119 sometimes you wish he had a little bit of fear, you know, in 381 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.200 a couple of things. I know Jed tried to tell, you know, 382 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:23.559 tell us on on Monday that some of those throws weren't bad. They all 383 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:30.000 the picks looked bad, you know, they were late that he threw the 384 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.680 you know, he tried to say, well, the defensive back made a 385 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.640 great play on on one. Well, he never should have thrown the ball 386 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.720 there. You know, it was a deep pass and the guy was bracketed 387 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.359 and and he threw it in and he tried to, you know, squeeze 388 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.039 it in there, and it got picked off. And yet I thought his 389 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:51.160 worst passid the night was when he missed cowing and the overtime when he was 390 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:56.039 wide open he could have taken into inside the tenny arm line. He really 391 00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.720 wasn't under pressure. He just missed the pass. But how about him trying 392 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.519 that quarterbacks to make nobody know about we're we're just talking about that. I 393 00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:07.039 mean, come on, the when I say you're ten, I'll give me 394 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.880 to give you ten quarterbacks, Jake, how about Jay Greg? How many 395 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:19.319 you're going to actually do that, man zero. You know, you couldn't 396 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:23.960 tell watching TV. It looked like a called play and the announcers were didn't 397 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:30.359 really know what was going on. The only one that did was Jake I 398 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.559 know. I mean, the offensive lineman didn't even know enough to push him 399 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.720 in the end zone for a while. Yeah right, And I still don't 400 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.640 think he got in. I still don't think he ever got across the line, 401 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:42.680 but you couldn't tell. And then they called it a touchdown, touchdown, 402 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.519 so that that was it. But you know, I'm trying to get 403 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:49.119 the people that I'm talking to, and you know, the crowd that I 404 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.960 talked about about. Guys, get used to this, get used to the 405 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.359 fact that Delora the rest of the season is going to be the guy who 406 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.119 takes risks. He's gonna make some throws that you're gonna hate, and then 407 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:04.599 he's gonna that you're gonna hate that that turn out to be bad, and 408 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.960 now you're gonna hate and turn out to be good. You just hope that 409 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.279 the bad ones don't kill you. I mean you, I feel like that's 410 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.920 what we're dealing with. I think it one I think at least one or 411 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:21.880 two Saturdays this year he's gonna pull off a colossal upset over like a Washington 412 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:27.039 or not USC or an Oregon. And then maybe the other day he's gonna 413 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:32.799 lose the Oregon State or Washington State because of the same stuff, No question, 414 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.559 no question. But he's in't that typical Arizona quarterback throughout the years? 415 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:44.039 Bingo? God, I kind of hate that. Yeah, I kind of 416 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.400 hate that. That's how it's always been, right, well right, the 417 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:49.839 expectations again. It's like, oh god, here we go again. Yeah, 418 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:55.680 I hate I hate seeing you guys suffer. No, you don't know, 419 00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:57.319 you don't. You take so much pleasure in it. No, I 420 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.279 do it. I just say, you know, these guys need to change 421 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.880 the leasion. Have you have your overall impressions of in these first two games? 422 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.519 I know you know, any of you. I don't know how much 423 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:11.680 we learned. You saw this this uh Mississippi State game. Are your impressions 424 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.000 of the team as a whole kind of where they were going in? You 425 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.960 think they changed a little bit? You think, wow, with what they 426 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.559 did against Mississippi State, even though they didn't win them, maybe they're better 427 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.920 than you thought they were going to be. Where were you at on that. 428 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.240 I think you're about exactly where I I thought they might be. I 429 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:33.039 was wondering when they would take advantage of team acting. And I think all 430 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.480 of us, anyone who watching that game last week, thought this guy is 431 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.920 really, really, really special. I mean, what if you did what 432 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.279 if you didn't tip co out of bounce in the last series, he would 433 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.680 have had to have been the best the pactball player of the week. Yeah, 434 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.640 even ahead of the Colorado guys. Yeah, because you gonna win on 435 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:56.559 the road, you know, in a game like that in the end, 436 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.279 in the SEC and not against one of the SEC scrubs, right, one 437 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.920 of you know, one of the good teams in the league. So yeah, 438 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.039 I thought that. I just thought that was a game that got away 439 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.960 that they they would win if they played again, and they would definitely beat 440 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:17.319 him in Tucson. And maybe now they know, I'm looking back at we 441 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.839 should have won that game, and maybe it'll help them when they go when 442 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.319 they play Washington in two weeks. Yea, all right, you're up in 443 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:30.200 Colorado. I was going to do, you're up there? U is that 444 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.519 thing spread out all over the state? I mean, are you is it 445 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.960 just NonStop conversation about these guys. I mean, what are you what are 446 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:41.200 you experiencing up there with them? Well, in previous years, I never 447 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:47.480 heard one single word about Colorado football in with the guys I play with in 448 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:52.240 golf. And last week I was playing this guy named Jamie McCoy who's a 449 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.200 CEU grad, and I was asking about him, and I said, are 450 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.200 you going to go to the game against Nebraska? And he goes, I 451 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:06.400 paid fifteen hundred dollars each for two tickets yesterday. Wow. So yeah, 452 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.519 I mean, it's a buzz. You can imagine if Arizona since was swishing, 453 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:14.759 it was Arizona. Deon Sanders was at guys who never said a word 454 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.880 about him, they're talking about him all the time. Well, and I 455 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.440 was. I was looking at it. Think Jody Ailer today he's ripping ASU 456 00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:25.279 for not going after him when they you know, when they had the chance. 457 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.079 And he compared to say you went after herm Edwards. Yeah, but 458 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.960 and you know you stretch, you stretch yourself to take him. But you 459 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.039 thought Dean Sanders was a risk? What the hell are you doing? But 460 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.240 guys, but guys who knew, I mean, come on, you're taking 461 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.759 him who knew. I mean, it's like Betty five bucks on a roulette 462 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:49.440 wheel for number one, number one and hoping number one comes in. Did 463 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.799 you want remember last year when Jackson State was in that playership game, Yeah, 464 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.599 their bowl game. I remember watching that game and I didn't come away 465 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:04.119 thinking it was any special. And Shader the quarterback, I can't even remember 466 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.839 him in that game. And suddenly she's as good as any quarterback in the 467 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:15.440 league. Man, But let's see, let's see what happens when they play 468 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.160 USC and when they play USC in Oregon back to back. That's the whole 469 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.319 thing. I don't want to poo poo that, but come on, I'm 470 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.920 gonna ask you, Jay, you're gonna take the chance twelve months ago? 471 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.200 Are you gonna take the chance? Well, and not because he's whatever, 472 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.519 But you don't know this is gonna happen. You don't, Yeah, you 473 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.480 know, No, you don't know, all right, you don't know what 474 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.920 you don't know. But but when you put it in the context of what 475 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.519 did they know about her Edwards being a college? Right, they went ahead 476 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.359 and took her Edwards, But they didn't think that they you know, they 477 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.000 thought, you know, Jan Sanders was more of a risk and they had 478 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.279 nothing, didn't even try. Greg, are you taking this chance? Well? 479 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.759 I just think back to how many bad head coaches have been hired just 480 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.279 in the PAC twelve. I mean, starting with Kevin someone number one. 481 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:07.640 Why don't ever take a retrout again? You don't take a chance with Deon 482 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:13.240 Sanders, right, or take a chance with Jed Fish? Yeah? I 483 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.559 mean who I mean? Who I mean? What was the reaction when they 484 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.279 went and got Jed Fish? We all lost our minds exactly. And I'm 485 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.319 not saying that he's he's not. We don't know if he's going to be 486 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:27.960 the greatest coach in Arizona history, but he's on a nice trajectory so far. 487 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.440 Can you imagine if they had hired Brent Brennan instead, he wouldn't have 488 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:37.920 done any of this off the field stuff that Fish does to row as support 489 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:44.119 in the community and to recruit, Like can you imagine Brent brannon recruiting team 490 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.960 making those guys no way? Yeah, I hear you, yeah right, 491 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:52.440 yeah? No? And I mean, Greg, there were forty five thousand 492 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:58.119 or more at the NAU game. It was a legit crowd. Well they 493 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.200 announced forty eight. It wasn't forty eight, but it was forty five. 494 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:06.240 It really was. By the time you know, how we are, right, 495 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.000 the fans show up in the middle of the first quarter. By the 496 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:12.279 time it filled in, there were a good forty five thousand there. I 497 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.680 thought, I don't know if you thought that. Yeah, yeah, I 498 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:22.200 guess it's too late of a game. It's an eight o'clock game. You 499 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:28.240 lose some people right there. You're greg by first quarter. Man doesn't come 500 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:35.000 on here exactly, It's my point. But no, you know, but 501 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.960 but again, you know, but still the fact that it was even forty 502 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.039 thousand, like you know, against an Au you know, on a hot 503 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.799 you know, Saturday night, on Labor Day weekend, right, So yeah, 504 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.400 I mean, you know, again you don't know, and you're right, 505 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.880 I mean nobody, I mean, did Colorado hope something. Colorado couldn't 506 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.720 even imagine that this was going to happen. I mean, they got you 507 00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.319 know, best case scenario was that he draw some interest that be in the 508 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.240 conversation because he was Dion Sanders, but not that they would be doing. 509 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.519 You're talking about the guy who's a program that was at the bottom bottom bottom. 510 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.079 What what's what could they lose right exactly. I mean they rolled the 511 00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.000 dice because they had nothing right exactly. So I go in the I go 512 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.320 on the local library here about twice a week to read the Denver Post sports 513 00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:28.119 section. And in previous years you you never saw a Colorado football story, 514 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.440 page six maybe, and now it's it's all over. I mean, it's 515 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:37.079 above the it's above the Broncos. It's unbelievable. The Broncos are bad. 516 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.760 We'll see it's gonna be fun because well wait, wait, I can't remember. 517 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.440 If we had you before the years started and I asked, or did 518 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.960 I ask you how many wins they had in them Arizona, I would have 519 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:58.119 said seven. Man, you are drinking the cores up in THEAD. I 520 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.519 had five. I had five, ma six. But now Colorado was Colorado 521 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.360 is not one of those gwins? Now, will you can't mark it down 522 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.880 like you you're like you thought you could for sure? Do you want to 523 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:15.440 revise? I would revise, not to six. Okay, I don't think 524 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:20.360 they'll be Colorado unless Shader Standards is injured. Yeah, then it's up there 525 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.960 and it's up there. Yeah okay, Well we'll be safe coming back, 526 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.599 so you'll be here for the Washington game. Where is that what we're hearing? 527 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.440 Yeah, I wanted to say something to ruin Jay's day. Oh god, 528 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.760 it's the golf course today. We have a home and home against the 529 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:43.920 men's club from Lakewood Country Club. And guess who's in their country club and 530 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:50.360 played here's a Goose gossage. Oh no. But I finally got up enough 531 00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:57.239 courage and I went over and said, thank you for nineteen seventy. Well, 532 00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.519 you know what you just did, ruin this whole thing, and we're 533 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:04.280 just gonna we're just gonna hang up on you now. Who's nice knowing you'll 534 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.840 never be back on the show now, I'm sorry, not for a while. 535 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.159 Yankees in the last place. Anyways, maybe we will, all right, 536 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.239 Greg, Hey, thanks a much, man, Stay cool up there, 537 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.840 be safe doctor later. Thank you. Guys. Hey, do you 538 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:22.559 ever read? Do you ever read? How many reads you today? Okay? 539 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.199 All right, we'll come back. Take your calls five to zero, 540 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.239 four, one, six, seventy four, forty Your thoughts on on Jade 541 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.440 Delora? Right? Are we were ready to kill? Are we? Are 542 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:35.119 we ready for this? Gun slinger guy? And you know, ten more 543 00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.280 games of this maybe eleven I don't know. We'll see all right, we'll 544 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:42.000 take break. 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If you guys want to 620 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:12.320 give us a call, please do five two four one six seventy four forty 621 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:16.639 uh five two zero sixty five two o four one six seventy four forty Steve, 622 00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.880 you're confusing people now, No, no, they say, I say 623 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.360 it too fast, but we don't call. Yeah, you can call, 624 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.519 come on five two zero four one six seventy four forty Yeah. So just 625 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.480 give a quick call. I know somebody's listening to us from these coasts. 626 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.199 I think DC Baltimore. Yeah wow. So he just chimed in, thank 627 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:38.280 you for listening on the iHeart up. So so okay. I saw on 628 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:44.559 sports betting time dot com that the Dolphins on there on some who are whatever 629 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.639 sports book thereies you are now the favorite to win the AFC. I'm looking 630 00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.119 at Draft Kings. It's still the Chiefs, the Bills, Yeah, then 631 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.559 the Dolphins. What would that be because the Chiefs are partly a five to 632 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:58.679 one, four thirty three forty fourth row even after the loss. Yeah, 633 00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.039 Oh that was just that, just something that happened that Yeah, it was 634 00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.280 that messed me up. I wrecked my whole weekend. Steve started Thursday, 635 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.920 It started Thursday night, and it never got better. It never got the 636 00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:17.480 game you hit, I hit Oklahoma. Oh yeah, they barely covered by 637 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.639 half a point. They were not. I was I was looking at the 638 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.800 score and they were only up. I think they were up three with like 639 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:29.440 middle of the fourth quarter, and they scored two touchdow. I said that 640 00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.400 before the week, I thought last week's games were weird because they're obvious, 641 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:36.519 obvious covers for that obvious, and they were not. They were not. 642 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.079 They were not. Then this week it's just like a terrible college football schedule. 643 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.039 Yeah, but at least, you know, and you know, I 644 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.760 was hoping that our special game this week would have been the Jets and the 645 00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:53.599 Cowboys until until Aaron Rodgers got hurt. Bengals Ravens Okay, should be Bengals 646 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.079 got beat. But they're at home now and their favorite. The Ravens are 647 00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.239 pretty good. Ravens are pretty good. Yeah, they're not among the leap, 648 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.000 but we're going Bengal. We're going Ravens Bengals at the Bengals right now. 649 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:06.800 The last I saw, Bengals were a three point favorite. Okay, 650 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.440 so I think Burrow was horrible. But the only game really of any interest 651 00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.599 I know there's a lot of interest in the Colorado Colorado State. Did you 652 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:20.559 see that both the Fox pregame show and Game Day are gonna be at Colorado. 653 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.920 Fox was there last week? Yeah, Yeah, they were there last 654 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.880 week too, sure, and it's Colorado, Colorado State anyway. If there's 655 00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.079 anything, He's brought ratings to a lot of things. Yeah. But the 656 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:36.199 only really other game of any consequence I think is the Washington Michigan state game. 657 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.800 And uh and last I saw, Washington is a pretty big favorite. 658 00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:43.079 But they're on the road, so who knows what the hell is Gonnachian State. 659 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.119 Their situations, you know, and it's to me that's a that's a 660 00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.239 completely stay away from game because you don't know if they can't come out fire, 661 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.480 if you're they're gonna come out, you know, their seasons over already 662 00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:58.960 or how they're gonna come out of that. But uh, you know it, 663 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.920 I think I'm trying to look up this line. I believe it was. 664 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.840 It was sixteen and a half or fourteen and a half or some number 665 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.360 like that. Uh, it's a it's app Michigan State. So that's the 666 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.880 first thing. It's it's sixteen. Washington is a sixteen point favorite app Michigan 667 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:20.559 State. So other than that, it's it's an awful schedule the following week. 668 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.199 Next week, it's a great schedule. You got Ohause State and Order 669 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.519 Dame, you got Colorado and Oregon. There's a whole bunch of games. 670 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.360 So we'll we'll pick one of those for our special next week. But yeah, 671 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.480 we're gonna be doing our fab five Friday picks on Thursday again this week 672 00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:38.280 because I will be out again on Friday. We can Steve your boss was 673 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:45.119 like, my boss doesn't know who my boss is. That that's an issue. 674 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:51.559 Interesting conversation I heard this morning. I was listening to the to the 675 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:57.760 College College Football in Choir. Dan Wetzel, Pad forty and Ross Dellinger and 676 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.079 Dan Wetson went out and did a bunch of re chearch which is unusual for 677 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:07.119 him. But but basically it was going through because because remember with the transfer 678 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.159 portal and and all this stuff, you know, all the a lot of 679 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.280 the coaches are saying, it's gonna it's ruined, it's gonna ruin college football. 680 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:17.320 The rich are gonna get richer, the poor are gonna get poor. 681 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.880 It's gonna suck for everybody. Well, he went and did a study, 682 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.840 not a study, you know, it's a research on where recruits are going, 683 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.000 all right, And what he's found is that the recruits are spreading out 684 00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:37.840 more than they were, partly because of NIL. Right that Whereas whereas you 685 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:39.920 know, like you said, as an example, he said, the third 686 00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:45.920 only thirty four of the top forty recruits from I think he said, rivals 687 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:52.679 are two four seven sports have committed nine They've gone to nineteen different schools. 688 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.639 Whereas in the in the general year, where it's you know, one team 689 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.320 is getting you know, all all the all the recruits. That of the 690 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:06.400 top forty, they generally spread around to only twelve to fifteen teams. So 691 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:10.360 players, probably because of NIL, are going all over the place. Now 692 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:15.360 Alabama's not getting them all, George is not getting them all. And and 693 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.719 the recruiting rankings, the gap, you know, the scores that they give, 694 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.440 the gap is closing between the top, you know, and then you 695 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:28.280 get down to ten, fifteen, twenty, that it's closing that and essentially 696 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:32.199 saying that there's more parody in recruiting than there ever has been recruiting, because 697 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.480 you're including that in the recruiting right, and then when you throw in the 698 00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:43.039 transfer portal, how an Alabama can't stockpile, you know, to a tongue 699 00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.320 of Iloa and Jalen Hurts and you know all these quarterbacks, you know, 700 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:52.280 Bryce Young or whatever that now Alabama essentially doesn't have a quarterback right now because 701 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.719 because a quarterback doesn't play, he leaves. Yeah, right, you know 702 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.000 Jalen Hurts left. Uh, you know, a quarterbacks leave when they So, 703 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:04.480 now Alabama doesn't have a quarterback. Then two or three games this year, 704 00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.639 they've already lost one and and you know they lost one at home, 705 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:12.800 you know, Texas and m has lost a game at home. So for 706 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.840 essentially what they were saying and what I agree with, because look how quickly 707 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:21.159 Arizon has been able to rebuild. Look at how Colorado is able to rebuild. 708 00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:23.639 You wouldn't have been able to do that without the transfer portal, and 709 00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:28.679 then without you know, being able to go out and get recruits that otherwise 710 00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.840 weren't available to you because they just went to Alabama and Georgia High State in 711 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:37.400 Michigan. I'm curious, and good stuff, I'm curious. Of the two 712 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.039 thousand people who transferred, I'm sure there was more than that, right, 713 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:44.840 how many didn't end up anywhere? Yeah, because there's not enough places to 714 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.719 go and have phil rosters and in your mind you're thinking I'm good enough to 715 00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.400 play here or there, but maybe not. Well, how many of them 716 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:53.960 just ended up staying where they were because you can enter the transfer portal, 717 00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:57.519 you don't get picked up, you know, stay if they you know, 718 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:02.760 would you want one of those guys? You know, you know, it 719 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:08.440 depends, Okay, he's good? No. Well, if if I thought 720 00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:15.639 the player thought he had an like like if I'm at Darian Singer, No, 721 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.280 no, no, okay, if he had entered the transfer portal, 722 00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:22.039 tried to get you know, tried to get a US here in a house 723 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.360 state away and none of them took him, and he wanted to come back, 724 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:29.960 I'm saying, welcome back, okay, okay, right, because let 725 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.360 me give you somebody a little less than that. Somebody like that, okay, 726 00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.719 okay, looked into the portal, didn't know Tommy Lloyd, you know 727 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.239 whatever. And you know he came back and I was fine with that now, 728 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.000 you know, uh, you know last year when when he got into 729 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:49.159 transfer portal, to me, that was all Tommy. I think I think 730 00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.199 he understood that, you know, his days here we were pretty much over 731 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.039 that. They were bringing in guys that you know, he was he need. 732 00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.960 So, you know, a lot of a lot of that depends. 733 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:01.360 I'll tell you what, if Kurt Chrissa had come back, I wouldn't have 734 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:05.960 had a problem with that again either, you know, so it part of 735 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:09.320 part of it depends if if I feel like the guy wasn't just looking for 736 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:12.760 a ladder or just want to get the hell out because he didn't feel like 737 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.679 he was getting enough playing time, then go. If you don't want to 738 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:20.159 be here, then go. But you know, if a guy like like 739 00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.320 a Dorian Singer wanted to try and get in at USC or AHU State or 740 00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:28.119 whatever and then it just didn't work out, I'd take him with open arms, 741 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.599 because when he's good and two. I felt like he was trying to 742 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.480 better himself. I mean, like, look, I mean I you know, 743 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.599 I supervise people, and if they if I found out they were looking 744 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.199 for a job, but they were looking for a job at a place that 745 00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.840 was better than where they were, I had no problem with that. Did 746 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:49.239 that happen? No, because everybody loved me. Welcome to the show. 747 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:55.599 That's not real, right, Yeah, I think the betterment argument is a 748 00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:59.320 great point. Singer is going to go play with Caleb Williams, and not 749 00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.360 to say Delora, like we talked about earlier, isn't a great quarterback and 750 00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:06.559 can't get you the ball, but Caleb Williams is an all time talent, 751 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:13.000 and so to go play with him a huge state. They're fifth best team 752 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:19.440 exactly, and now he's gonna be a draft pick. Yeah. So I 753 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:21.840 know. It's not to say he wouldn't have been here, sure, sure, 754 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:23.880 but more visible. Yeah, you're going you're going after the prettier girl 755 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:29.760 exactly to be kind of stupid with that, but yeah, exactly. He 756 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.000 may have been a fifth round pick if he stayed here, and now he 757 00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:36.639 could be a second third round pick. Yeah, good enough. I Yeah, 758 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.519 so you know I mean again, it depends on the circumstance and everyone 759 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.760 probably probably a little bit different than good enough. You said, okay, 760 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.000 good take care of thanks. Right, And if you say okay, you 761 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.159 suck and I don't want you back, well then you know, go go 762 00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.840 play a thousand state or whatever, right, well where that come from, 763 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:59.199 You'll play in Jackson State. I know what I consider, you know, 764 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:01.239 I know what you say. All right, let's say here break, we'll 765 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.360 be back. We've got some breaking news. We'll see how much drinking come 766 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.840 up with between now and the top of the hours, and stick around.