WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:15.439 Adventist Radio London inspiration for the song well, Welcome to Talking Point with Ray 2 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:22.160 Angela discussing the hot topics and answering your questions, Saturday's five to seven pm 3 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:27.800 on Adventist Radio London. It's talking Point. It's talking Point. It's talking 4 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:36.600 Point. It's talking point. Real conversations you need to have. Good evening, 5 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:41.079 good evening, good evening, and welcome to talking Point. Talking Point. 6 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:49.119 There's real conversations you need to have. UM, So I hope you 7 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:54.240 were all keeping well. Welcome to talking Point. Um, I'd love to 8 00:00:54.280 --> 00:01:00.159 say, I hope you've had a good day and a good sabbath. I've 9 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.879 had a really rainy sabbath. I'm not sure where are last. Sunshine has 10 00:01:03.879 --> 00:01:08.840 gone too, but the rain is probably a bit of a welcome break maybe 11 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:14.760 for some people. I'm sure people who are keen gardeners are glad for a 12 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.519 bit of the rain because things we're looking a bit parched and scorched. So 13 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:27.719 yes, I hope, hopefully, let me just stop that. Hopefully you're 14 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:32.840 having a good day so far. So we'recome to talking Point. We've got 15 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:34.400 an interesting topic that we are talking about today, and we shall talk a 16 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:38.560 little bit more that in a second. But as we get started, let's 17 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.000 pray and we'll make a start. Father God, I want to thank you 18 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:46.480 for blessing us with a wonderful Sabbath day today, and even though it maybe 19 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:49.000 darla raining, we're thankful for the weather. I know I spoke about the 20 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:55.159 weather today and how much it reflects your character and your greatness and goodness for 21 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.920 us. I thank you, Dear Lord, for this day and for the 22 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.040 gift that is Sabbath, and we'll be talking about how that rest day can 23 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:07.280 feed into our own self care practices. So I pray, Dear Lord, 24 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:12.000 that you bless this program today and that the listeners will gain something that would 25 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:19.960 be inspiring for them today. This is my prayer. Amen. So Senya, 26 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:27.280 how are we? I am good? I can't remember where we left 27 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:34.120 off. Um. Last Sabbath was obviously contest and let's hab before. I 28 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:37.280 think we did another rerun. So it's been maybe a couple of weeks. 29 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:44.000 Two weeks. Yeah, my memory sasling. There's more always um and yeah, 30 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.919 so it's good to be that. Welcome to talking point everyone. Um, 31 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:52.759 we missed your thought and yeah, I'm still sore. I don't agree 32 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:57.599 if I mentioned it the last time, but I am found roller skating. 33 00:02:57.800 --> 00:02:59.919 Yes, I think I think the last time you said you were going role 34 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:10.080 skating. Um, so you went roller skating and and yeah, but I 35 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:14.919 won't give up. I don't question is though, did you have fun when 36 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.919 you were around skating? Did you have fun when you were roller skating? 37 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.639 I do, I do. I mean I feel as I can stay up 38 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:25.439 right, I'm okay, but at the moment, as I'm learning, I'm 39 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.960 more on the floor than i am up right. Okay, Well, I 40 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.039 guess that's all part of it. I guess it is a work in progress. 41 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:40.479 But yeah, very very sort. Yeah, well I haven't skated for 42 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:45.759 a long time. I'm not sure i'd be any good actually, although yeah, 43 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:50.039 it's funny it is. Once you've stopped, it takes a while again. 44 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:54.360 Yeah again, Um so it really is doing it to do it regularly. 45 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:58.199 Um so I've had to take a break, so hopefully I will have 46 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.520 to start from scratch when I go back home. Some progress, Yeah, 47 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:03.240 but in any case, I really do enjoy it. My mind is just 48 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.919 so focus on staying up that nothing else. There's a good escape for me. 49 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.879 Yeah, talk about self care, maybe a moment to touch a map. 50 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:17.600 Yes, yeah, enjoying, enjoying the process and the progress. Um 51 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:25.160 and this tweet high that, of course, wasn't my son's birthday. Wow 52 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:29.839 he's sixteen? Oh my gosh. Well yeah yeah yeah, oh happy birthday 53 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:33.199 to Jay. Oh I get this. Well yeah, so I was surrounded 54 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:41.240 with about eleven or twelve young people sixteen bluff. And I can tell you 55 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:46.439 I'm exhausted. All the teachers. You know, they had to add to 56 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:53.480 it for five hours. Yeah yeah, yeah, whoa, no, I 57 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.240 hear that, but it was it was. It was like blustic, but 58 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:58.839 it was fun. He had a good time. They had a good time, 59 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:05.879 and good good master for him. And I thank God or for you 60 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:13.040 know, for his life and continued protection and blessings. Yeah. Oh wow, 61 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.000 oh sixteen, My goodness. I bet you're probably thinking, where has 62 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:21.439 that time? Where has that time gone? I remember when we hold him 63 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:25.319 in the you know, in the length of my hands. Yeah, now 64 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:30.079 that's the soul of his feet. Wows. Yeah, you know, he's 65 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:34.120 just he's you know, powering over me, strapping young man. And I'm 66 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:38.959 like, whoa, what where did that happen? Um? But you know 67 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.079 that is good and if you blame you miss it. Yeah. So as 68 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.800 parents, A just encourage you to just be part of the process, every 69 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.600 step of it. Yeah, it's it's special. Yeah. Actually, before 70 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:53.040 you know, there'll be adults and they'll be making their own way in law. 71 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.319 And it was excited to ten sixteen. He was like, I don't 72 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.480 know what sixteen means as my to him. Maybe it's because of you know, 73 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:05.199 moving on in life, maybe more approaching fifty sixty. I look back 74 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:09.120 and I think I think, well, those were special times, but often 75 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:13.199 the young people kind of rushed past it. Yes, yeah, they don't 76 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:17.160 appreciate youth. They don't appreciate that time in their life that they're quit to 77 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.800 become adult. But I have to constantly remind them, at it's not all 78 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:27.199 it's cracked up to be. The special the years where you can sit among 79 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.759 his lap and all that kind of stuff, cherished love, you know. 80 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:33.319 Yeah, they want to be grown, yes, yeah, but I wanted 81 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.519 to be grown. So it's it's a cyclist. It's what happens, isn't 82 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:41.240 it. But yeah, he's enjoying it. He's enjoying being a school for 83 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.279 sure, or waking up at one o'clock in the afternoon. Um, but 84 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:49.000 I find something to put him to do. Great. Yeah, cool, 85 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:55.240 he's enjoying it, and I'm glad because he's happy, he's healthy. What 86 00:06:55.399 --> 00:07:03.920 more can I ask for it? Yeah? Lovely Again, it flew past. 87 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.920 It's funny actually, because I kind of wonder whether I come to the 88 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.079 end of the week and I wonder whether it's actually been a very productive week. 89 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.240 It kind of feels like it hasn't been. It's been quite up and 90 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:20.560 down for many reasons. Yeah, so I'm not I'm not sure it was 91 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:26.800 the best week. And I think the way this morning went, I was 92 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.360 due to drive down to Ballam. I was at my mum's and I came 93 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.160 out ready on time, and my car back she was dead, and I 94 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.279 was just like, oh my goodness. With my history of car troubles, 95 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:39.519 I was like, hold on, I'm sort of myself, this shouldn't be 96 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:43.439 happening. So I think I left something on I know. So it was 97 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:46.959 just like, okay, this is but you know, sometimes these things happen 98 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.600 for a reason. And I realized, even as I was driving up today, 99 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:53.319 just how tired I was. So maybe you know that sort of extra 100 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:57.120 hour or so a couple of hours drive would have been just too much. 101 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:00.519 So I've sort of got to the end of the week and I'm tired. 102 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.920 So I think today's program, hopefully we'll be some inspiration to actually sort of 103 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:11.240 do something, you know, to start looking after myself a bit better and 104 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.160 and doing stuff. So, yeah, it feels like it's been a really 105 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.079 busy week. Um yeah, and I'd like to think, what did they 106 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.720 do that has been so great? I got do remember? Um, but 107 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:30.639 yeah, I know it feels that way, but but yes, yeah, 108 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.679 but you know, thank God, and I'm really glad that, Yeah, 109 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.440 I got made it through another week. It's the weekend. Hopefully I will 110 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:43.039 get some time to chill. So yeah. So, which brings us on 111 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:48.000 to today's topic and Pedro hopefully we'll join us at some point afternoon. I 112 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.480 think he was on the road doing some traveling as well. And we have 113 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:56.240 a guest with us today. Um, so I'm gonna say hi, introduce 114 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:58.840 her very briefly, we'll come back to you. So we've got Claire Thomas 115 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:03.279 with us today. Hi, Claire, how are you good? Thank you? 116 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.559 It's loving to be here. Thank you for having me. Good. 117 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.159 So today's topic actually she'll ask you actually before we go on, how was 118 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.559 your week being? Actually, as we're talking about our weeks, it's been 119 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.360 busy this week. I'm about to have a few days off, and it 120 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.399 is always amazing for a few days off that you sort of suddenly go, 121 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:22.799 oh, I haven't done X, Y and Z. So I felt I 122 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.320 just been trying to crab stuff in this week, but that it's all good, 123 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:30.720 good, good, good, well. Thank you for joining us, 124 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.519 and welcome to Talking Points. So today we're going to be talking about self 125 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:37.759 care. Now, when I was sort of thinking about this, Um, 126 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.240 sometimes we don't necessarily have titles for our show, but I kind of thought 127 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:48.000 about this one in terms of who's looking after you? Um, sometimes we're 128 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.960 so we're often very busy doing things for other people. You know, as 129 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:56.720 Christians, we are encouraged to serve and to help others and look after people. 130 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:05.679 But how have we often looking after ourselves? This the twenty fourth, 131 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:11.120 so on Monday, I do believe it's actually International Self Care Day. That 132 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:16.440 interestingly, the sort of reasoning behind the twenty fourth when it's held on the 133 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.600 twenty fourth is the idea of self care being something that you can do twenty 134 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.840 four seven, so twenty fourth or the seventh of July. So it's something 135 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.679 that should you can do any time, I guess anywhere, I suppose, 136 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.799 But the idea really is that you know, it's something that you do all 137 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.879 of the time. Twenty four seven it also marks the end of International Self 138 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:41.120 Care Month, So that's during a time a time where you know you're encouraged 139 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.120 to look at self, your own self care, self care initiatives and things 140 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:50.759 that are being done are being highlighted throughout this month. Now, I don't 141 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:56.919 know I myself personally had necessarily heard of anything specific around self care over this 142 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:00.840 last month. Having said that, in the role that I do as my 143 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:05.639 job, I probably mentioned the word self care every single day I work at 144 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:09.919 university. As many of you may know, I speak to students most days, 145 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:15.679 and I know I use that term very often. So, um and 146 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.360 I think it's a bit of an umbrella term, and we're going to unpack 147 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:24.519 the little bit as well. But self care, the idea of it being 148 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:31.559 important, crucial, essential, and really the idea of you know, looking 149 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:37.320 after yourself and what we think about that now, um as I've spoken to 150 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:41.120 a few people around the topic, it's been quite interesting, you know, 151 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:46.399 people's viewpoints of it. Um, so I'd be quite interested to see how 152 00:11:46.440 --> 00:12:01.120 our conversation goes with that. But um, I just yes, um one 153 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:05.639 day we yes, but we'll share the details for them to do so. 154 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:11.799 And one of the questions I thought, as you you've mentioned canvassing people around 155 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.440 you is what does self care mean to you? Because that I think a 156 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:22.799 personal it is yourself care. It's your it's your care and for me it's 157 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.799 may be different for you, well not made will be different for you, 158 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:31.279 it will be different as well. So my question to Alice does is to 159 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.279 come back to us and let us know what does self care mean to you? 160 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:41.360 When it's eight to eight space and then your response or you can emails 161 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:48.279 to your other noticed Radio dot London thank you so yes self care? So 162 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.360 yeah, so what is self care? I mean? As I mentioned, 163 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.240 I know, it's a word that I use a lot um and it seems 164 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:03.039 to be a bit of a buzzword. So yeah, is it something that 165 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.360 you both have heard of? Now I'm going to go straight to Zenia. 166 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.799 Then I'm going to come in with Claire. Then I get Claire sort of 167 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.120 introducing what she does, and that'll be I'm a little bit clearest to while 168 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:15.960 we've got her on the show today. Um, So, Zenia, what 169 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.519 is self care? Um? Simply, it's what it says on the tail, 170 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.720 it's taking care of self. Um. That's the simplest response to that. 171 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.440 Um. If you want to go deeper, I would say being mindful, 172 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:35.799 being mindful of your own limits, your needs, your experiences, you 173 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:41.360 know, just just being aware of what it takes for you to be your 174 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:46.879 best and calling that in place, and that is what self Yeah, that's 175 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.240 definitely, definitely I totally agree with you on that one. So I'm going 176 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:54.200 to bring an our guest at this point, we're going to dive straight in. 177 00:13:54.679 --> 00:14:01.279 So we've got Claire Thobas from I'm gonna say, is it a organization 178 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:09.799 company? Practice company? Cooled nourish to sore? So, Claire, tell 179 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:16.200 us a little bit about yourself and what you do and your company that you 180 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:22.279 sure. Yeah. So, i am a registered nutrition therapist and NLP coach, 181 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:28.240 and I'm on a mission to get or empower Christians to look after themselves 182 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:33.279 and enjoy life by making personalized nutrition and lifestyle changes. So I believe, 183 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:37.720 I think, especially with the health journey I've been on. It is crucial 184 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:39.879 that we are able to top ourselves up, you know, And I think 185 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.759 that's where self care is so vital. And I always think of the car. 186 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:48.080 You've already met Andrew about your car travels today. But you know, 187 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.440 if we don't hut the right oil, the right right fluid, the right 188 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:56.799 washing fluid and fuel into a car, it sort of starts to concuret And 189 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:00.480 I think it's the same for us. I think it's really valuable. So 190 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:05.480 we are making sure we're topping ourselves up with the correct fuel. And that's 191 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.960 what I do for my clients. It's about looking at their diet and lifestyle 192 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:15.159 and going where in this equation are you perhaps needing to take time to eat 193 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.720 well, look after yourself well so that you can have the energy to serve 194 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.559 others. You know, as Christians, you've already mentioned it's really important that 195 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.639 we serve others. But if we're serving from an empty place, all we're 196 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:31.080 doing is burning ourselves out. And that's I don't believe that God wants us 197 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.360 to do that. That's my heart in that, really, you know, 198 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.240 I think God wants us to be well and to serve people from a place 199 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.919 where our buckets are topped up through various self care of practices, which I'm 200 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.240 sure we'll talk about throughout this program. Cool. So, Claire, how 201 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.759 did you? How did you get into this? I mean you mentioned it 202 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.600 maybe possibly a reflection of your own journey, but is this something that you 203 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.960 had always interested you? Or yeah, how did you? And so I 204 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.600 was a johnessness of any I guess they still I'm a children's nurse. But 205 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:06.840 I was working as a children's nurse and I developed something called chronic fatigue syndrome 206 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:11.399 or EMMY. And that was in two thousand and twelve, and I was 207 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.279 basically told I would never recover it, was given some antipressants and basically told 208 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.240 just crack on, thank you very much, that's it. But I had 209 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:23.039 a faith in My faith teaches me that God heals, but sometimes there's that 210 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.679 middle ground, isn't there where you're waiting for the healing, but you don't 211 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.039 want to just sit back and allow life to just carry on. I kind 212 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:34.279 of quite a proactive individual. So a friend gave me a book that combined 213 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:40.200 nutrition, faith and mindset, and it set me on this incredible journey of 214 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:42.559 learning about the power of as I feel myself, as I eat well, 215 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:48.360 as I know, transform what I'm thinking about as I think about on you 216 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.000 know, biblical principles. I started to see things change in in twenty eighteen, 217 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.120 you know, thanks be to God, I was healed so which was 218 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:02.279 incredible. But I sparked this real desire to want to support other people to 219 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.599 feel the same. And there was lots of opportunities where I was like, 220 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:07.240 oh, you know, I really want to study nutrition, and lots of 221 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.400 opportunities came up, but nothing ever resonated. And then in twenty nineteen, 222 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:17.079 my job changed. I was in a sort of education role within children's nursing 223 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.200 and I was suddenly like, actually, I really feel I need to leave 224 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.920 the NHS and I need to leave now. It was just my now whatever 225 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:26.359 moment, but I couldn't understand why at the time. And then COVID hit 226 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:29.640 six months later, and I why, I went, yeah, yeah. 227 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.519 It was like okay, God, you know your ways are not by ways, 228 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:34.119 but hey, you know, let's correct on. So I went back 229 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.519 to university. In that sort of time frame, I found out what a 230 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.519 nutritional therapist was, and I suddenly realized that that was what I was looking 231 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:47.119 for because it brought together nutrition and mindset. So it was a holistic approach 232 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:49.279 to the individual, not just one thing. It was like, let's look 233 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.920 at the person as a whole and what we can do. And I bring 234 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.279 very much spirit in as well. And so I went back to university, 235 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:02.519 retrained for three years, and then graduated. Ye be doing what I'm doing 236 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:07.440 now, Okay, yeah, that's fantastic. And it's really interesting how you 237 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.680 said, actually your own it was your own illness at the time that kind 238 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:15.279 of sparked this. I mean, for you being told that you may not 239 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.680 recover from something that must have been well, I can't even imagine what that'd 240 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.400 be, but I just can imagine how devastating that must have been to hear 241 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:29.039 and from kind of doctors or practitioners whoever, to tell you that seems incredibly 242 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:34.480 hopeless, which considering what's happening these days, the idea of looking after yourself 243 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:40.079 and especially mental health problems appear to be on the rise. I think they 244 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:41.559 were always there, but it seems, you know, to actually be told 245 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:47.759 that something can't be fixed or solvable, it is terrible. I mean, 246 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.240 you know, regardless of whether we you know, like you said, do 247 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:55.240 you have a faith? So the fact that that's been kind of your options 248 00:18:55.279 --> 00:19:00.720 that you were given, which weren't much, must have been terrible. And 249 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.359 you know, my believers that things have changed for people's sense, and I 250 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:07.599 think COVID long COVID has had some similarities to chronic fatigue, and I think 251 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.559 things have changed thankfully. But at that point, you know, my heart 252 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.759 was to be I was in intensive care and as for children at that point, 253 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:18.599 and my heart was to sort of be in that environment and get promoted. 254 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.279 And it did turn everything on its head, and it was devastating, 255 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.559 and it took a while to sort of re kind of redig and rebalancing. 256 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.920 Okay, I don't quite see what's happening right now, but it was one 257 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.559 of those you know, I've had many moments where you just sometimes I have 258 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:38.400 to trust, even though you can't see what's beyond what you know you see 259 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:41.960 in front of you, that things will figure themselves out, maybe not in 260 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:45.400 the way that you want them to, but in a way that actually will 261 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:52.039 work out in a better way for you at some point. So self care, 262 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.200 so we obviously see what it is. Why is it so important for 263 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.680 us, and that seems a really self exploitatory kind of state question. I 264 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.839 feel like I'm answering it before everyone started, but people still struggle with that. 265 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:10.079 So yeah, why okay, fancy? Then why is it crucial? 266 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.880 I guess it seems a silly question, but I'm asking it anyway. I 267 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.119 don't think it's a s way question. I think for whatever reason, we 268 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:25.279 find it really hard to prioritize our own needs. We think it's perhaps selfish, 269 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:29.000 or that if I'm looking after myself, that there's maybe there's guilt there, 270 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:32.319 there's like I haven't earned the right to do this. But actually, 271 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:36.039 and I see this with the clients I work with. When you pull into 272 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:37.559 yourself and you have it, like I've said before, a full bucket, 273 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:44.039 you often have more energy, more you know, I can find. If 274 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:48.759 you don't look after yourself, you're often more irritable. You've got more fatigue, 275 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.119 you know, exhaustion, You're not able to cope with perhaps the demands 276 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.720 of life or if somebody's struggling, it's harder to cope with that because you're 277 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.960 empty. It's an empty bucket. And so actually, when we're topped up, 278 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:03.920 and yes, there will be periods in life where it will be harder 279 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:07.960 to top your bucket up. But if you're topped up, it means you've 280 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:15.440 got more capacity to be able to deal and manage with life in a way 281 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:21.519 that doesn't just drain you. But actually, yeah, you can feel energized 282 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:26.079 by life, if that makes sense. Yeah, it's interesting actually the idea 283 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.759 that we'd feel that people do feel guilty because again, speaking to a few 284 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.920 people, it's like, and I know sometimes if I'm going to be really 285 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.160 honest with myself, I probably think that as well, because often you know, 286 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.240 I'm helping people, but you're so right in the sense of I'm not 287 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.799 sure how we can give of our best if we are, whether it's burnt 288 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:49.240 out, we're stressed, or simply just not practicing what we're preaching. And 289 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.920 I hold my hands up to that because I know I'm guilty of that. 290 00:21:52.319 --> 00:22:02.240 So yeah, oh, okay, Pedro is just joining the building. Um, 291 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:06.720 okay, picture, I'll let you in a second. Um, looks 292 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:11.200 like he's starting outside, so we'll do that at a second. Um. 293 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:15.519 Yeah, it's just to just to pick it back on. Pay said that 294 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:22.000 says is the fuel that allows your life to shine and that's precisely why we 295 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:25.680 need to do it. We can't be our best we can't be our best 296 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:30.440 selves, we can't um and if we're tie in our biblical um sort of 297 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.799 principles, we can't fulfill God's purpose in our lives if we are not taking 298 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:38.599 care of ourselves. And that's I know you hit it to that earlier, 299 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:45.720 but that's biblical. It is. And and God rested, Jesus rested, 300 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:49.400 so you know, I I'm like, well, why then can't we rest? 301 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:56.119 That's that's so true, that's so true. M hmmm. And I 302 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.799 guess I guess part of it being crucial, I mean, I guess I 303 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.759 don't know whether I would say that we are living in a really fast pace, 304 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:10.079 fast paced life, and most of us are constantly busy, and I'm 305 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:15.440 sure when you ask people how they are, most people are saying too would 306 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:21.480 answer I'm really tired. Like you'll say, yeah, I'm fine, You'll 307 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:26.000 say you're fine, and then you're it'll be prefaced with actually, I'm really 308 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.160 tired. I've had a really hard week and what have you. So actually, 309 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:36.079 maybe it is crucial just to cope with the fast paced of life that 310 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:40.359 we're leading. I don't know if we've been we're busier than we've ever been, 311 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.200 or we have more I mean, I don't know, but I think 312 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.960 part of that is going to be it seems much more I don't know if 313 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:52.799 it's much more more essential than it's ever been. Is that because we're dealing 314 00:23:52.839 --> 00:24:06.160 with more things or there's more things to stress us out? Yeah, which 315 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:10.880 is interesting, Which is interesting? So okay, so um, I'm going 316 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.880 to pause there for a second so I can let Pedo in and I apparently 317 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.599 we're not hearing you guys too well. So I'm going to play a next 318 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:23.160 piece of music. I'm gonna go with the Goodness of God with CC Whiners, 319 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.839 one of our favorites. We love this song on on our show and 320 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:32.440 really, m as we talked about, and it's a God given looking after 321 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:36.920 ourselves is so important, and you know, God is so good to us 322 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.839 that actually, you know, for us to kind of appreciate that and sort 323 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.400 of take the time to spend our time with him. With the Goodness of 324 00:24:44.440 --> 00:25:07.799 God, So let me pop that one in. I love you, Lord, 325 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:18.559 for your mercy never fails me. All my DearS, I've been held 326 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:29.559 in your head from the moment that I wait until I leave my head. 327 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:41.480 Oh you will see of the goodness of God, because all my life you 328 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:56.640 have been faithful. Nor my life you have been so so good with every 329 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:04.920 breath that I am made. Oh, why you will see of the goodness 330 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:15.079 of God. I love your boys. You have led me through the fine 331 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:26.480 in darkest time. You are closed like No, I'm knowing you as a 332 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:36.799 fine. I've known you as a plan, and I have lived in the 333 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:48.440 goodness of God was all my line. You have been fair Oh yes, 334 00:26:51.480 --> 00:27:02.039 no, my life you have been sore, so very that I am lame. 335 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:15.640 Boy. I will see of the good God. Your goodness is runny 336 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:23.640 enough. It's pretty knife to me. Your goneness is runny Enoughter, it's 337 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:30.839 runny enough to me with my life. Lane, now it's a render. 338 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:38.880 Now I give you a thing, the Lord. Your goodness is runny lifter's 339 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:55.519 kind enough to me. Your listen, my your donees is enough is run 340 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:07.480 to me with my life, lad, I get you an you're the missus 341 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:29.319 r R. No, my life you have been fairful. No, my 342 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:41.200 life, you have been sold soul with every breath that I am maybeble do 343 00:28:41.480 --> 00:29:48.920 the say so when I the same so okay, so we're back. Goodness 344 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:53.160 of God CC wine. It's definitely a favorite of ours. Um, yeah, 345 00:29:53.839 --> 00:30:00.759 I do love that song. I'm wrong, No, definitely and definitely 346 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.960 just as you know, as a reminder, just like I said, how 347 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:11.000 good God really is. And you know, even when and then Claire's case, 348 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.920 the doctors were telling her one thing, her belief in God had other 349 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.039 plans for her as well. So we were just talking about we're talking about 350 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.799 self care. If you're just joining us, thank you for joining us at 351 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.920 talking point. If you'd like to contribute to our program, we'd love to 352 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:32.680 hear from you. You can either text us on eight triple to eight right 353 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:37.839 hope and then your message, or you can email us on studio at Advantage 354 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:42.319 Radio London. And what we want to know is about your self care and 355 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:47.279 Sonny, what was your question which has got to complete question was what yourself 356 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.480 came into you? But yes, we're open to self care poptices, you 357 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.960 know in fact from Claire's story, I think, and so you'll have to 358 00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.799 let me know in terms of your own clientell is that generally the case that 359 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:07.279 people come to our moments of self care after they've gone through maybe a crisis 360 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.119 or their own health scare or something like that. Is that what generally makes 361 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:17.440 people stop and assess and decide, Okay, this has to happen. It 362 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.599 does seem to be what I am seeing more of. It's almost like I'm 363 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:23.839 seeing people who are burning out or burnt out or have a chronic illness, 364 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.240 and it's like they come to a point where they're like they can't carry on 365 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.440 as they are and they need help and support in order to feel better. 366 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.240 And like, my aim is that we wouldn't get to that point. I 367 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.559 mean, obviously illness happens, but especially with burnout, that we wouldn't be 368 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:42.440 getting to that point that we'd recognize actually if we put these practices into place 369 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.599 before we get to that point, because as soon as we burn out, 370 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.759 it can take a while to recover from that. So it is finding that 371 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:55.839 balance. Yeah, and I think who has now official labeled bran out as 372 00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:04.759 a classified bran out as an illness? Yeah, fast, that's happening over 373 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.640 here. Um, but yeah, that it's an official it's an official illness. 374 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.880 And um, so many of us I've forgotten the statistics. I'm gonna 375 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.599 have to pull them up again. But so many of us across the world. 376 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:22.599 I'm struggling with that particular issue. Yeah, definitely. And I and 377 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:27.599 it's something I've seen across my career and now you know, it's a nutritional 378 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.839 therapist is right now and it's just I probably I've had burnout, I know, 379 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.839 you know, part of my problems where with burning out and doing too 380 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.079 much and not recognizing that it was okay to look after myself so that I 381 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:44.599 could you know, not be depleted to the extent that I was. I 382 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.160 think I have perhaps all of us have been there. And the thing about 383 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.720 burnout you're not really knowing where you're headed until you've kit the wall. Yeah, 384 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.279 that's the thing. You know, you don't realize that you're going too 385 00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.759 much and doing too much and all that kind of stuff till you inevitably crash. 386 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.359 And by that time, as you said, it takes a lot more 387 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.160 to undo what has been done rather than and it says a out of prevention. 388 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:13.119 So it's so much better to do what we have to do to prevent 389 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:17.000 that as opposed to getting there and having to undo the damage. Yeah, 390 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.519 definitely. An Interestingly, I've been talking about burnout on my social media this 391 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.279 week and you know, I've had people get in touch and gone, oh, 392 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.680 you've shared some of the symptoms, and actually I've got a few of 393 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.720 those, and I'm like, right, let's talk what can we do to 394 00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:37.200 get you, yeah, back on track? And We're going to come to 395 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.119 that as well. But I was thinking, going back to what you were 396 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:45.519 saying about sometimes people not prioritizing or feeling guilty about the self care. How 397 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.759 could we kind of how can we help people to kind of get past that 398 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.839 because in some ways, like we keep going, and we keep going, 399 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.920 and we keep going until we suffer for burnout, till we just depleted no 400 00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:01.119 energy, everything else. But I may still feel guilt tea for stopping and 401 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:06.119 resting. You know, the amount of times sometimes I've kind of said, 402 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:07.920 right, you know, my weekend comes, I have a busy week. 403 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.760 I will it full time. And I might say somebody, oh, you 404 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.280 know, people say what do you doing the weekend? I said, you 405 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.039 know what, I'm going to chill. I'm not going to do anything. 406 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.599 Really, that's such a waste of time. And I'm like, how could 407 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:21.960 that be a waste of time? You're almost guilted into that, And then 408 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.360 I think, oh, yeah, there's one hundred and one things that I 409 00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:29.000 could be doing or I should be doing, but maybe I shouldn't, And 410 00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.840 you keep going. So how can how can I get past? How could 411 00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:37.920 somebody get past that? I do a feeling guilty. I think it's quite 412 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:43.320 challenging question because some of the guilt could come from previous experiences or how you 413 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.360 were brought up, or you know, it could be excell influences. So 414 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:51.199 sometimes I just strip it back to thinking. You know, if you saw 415 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.199 your best friend in front of you, and you saw her running ragged, 416 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.639 you know, not taking time, furself, not eating well, what would 417 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.920 you say to her? You'd probably saying, look, you need to take 418 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:06.320 some time, look at your diary, take out what you don't need, 419 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:10.079 chill out at the weekend. So if you say that to your best friend, 420 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:15.639 why are you not saying it to yourself? And it is you know, 421 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.079 if you keep burning yourself out again, I'm going to go back to 422 00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:22.639 the car analogy. If your car, like yours, dead black battery, 423 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.480 you don't get very far do you if you're you know, I live in 424 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:29.760 a little village in the middle of nowhere, So if my car's not working, 425 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.079 I can't get to work or I can't. You know, I can't 426 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.639 go into the shopping well. I mean there are ways around that, but 427 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:40.039 you get drift. I can't get to church, for example, so I 428 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.639 have to make sure my car's being looked after. But if I if I 429 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.519 burn myself out, I can't go to work in the way I won't you. 430 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.159 I can't turn up for my clients or my family or my friends in 431 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.159 the way that I want to. I'm not going to be any good for 432 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.559 them. And so it's it's kind of trying to flip the script and try 433 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:00.360 and tell yourself instead of should I love the should voice if anyone, if 434 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.199 you ever hear the words should, that's like get rid of that should shoul 435 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.400 shouldn't be allowed, um. But it's it's reminding yourself that I am. 436 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:14.199 I am fearfully in wantfully made. You know, God made me. I 437 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:19.199 am valuable. I can look after myself. God God doesn't sit there going 438 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.440 no, you can't do that. You can't look after yourself. It's like, 439 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:23.599 no, my body is valuable. I can look after it. And 440 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:29.719 it's it's kind of reminding yourself of what God says about you and sort of 441 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:34.400 using that instead of feeling guilty, because um, you know, God isn't 442 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.920 about guilt and shame. God's about love, and actually he's like, yeah, 443 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:46.960 you're worthy your mind, you're valuable. Look after that pet. Good 444 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.760 afternoon, everybody. I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm sorry. I just joined 445 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.719 then. I'm sorry. I was quite in traffic. Um, yeah, 446 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:58.719 I was gonna say just say no. Yeah, why not? Just say 447 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.920 no, Just say no, and don't care what other people think, because 448 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.000 when it all comes down to it, when it all comes down to it, 449 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.360 if you don't take care of yourself, nobody else will. So the 450 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:13.239 point is that you can't worry about and I'm just going by experience, you 451 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.960 can't because everybody's different. So I'm talking about my opinion. But you can't 452 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.639 worry about what people are gonna say about you because if you do it, 453 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:23.960 they're gonna complain. If you don't do it, they're gonna complain. So 454 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:29.320 either way, just do what you feel is best for yourself and just say 455 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:35.039 no. Yeah, I mean that very tidy two letter words. That's the 456 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.280 hardest, that's the hardest. That's the I didn't say, like, listen, 457 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.400 I didn't say that it wasn't hard and I didn't say that those two 458 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:47.280 little words or that one word, or because no is easy to say. 459 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.559 But if you learn to do that, you could you could do a lot 460 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.639 of self care for yourself, because like you said, you know, you 461 00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.480 say no, and then they said, oh, but why not? Oh 462 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.519 you know, you got time not doing nothing? What you mean, I'm 463 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.320 not doing nothing if I'm home, So what if I want to just sit 464 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.000 at home in my shorts and a T shirt. If that's what I want 465 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.079 to do, That's what I'm going to do. Especially in the church, 466 00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.880 because you go to we work five days a week, we go to church, 467 00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.760 we got cyber school, then you got service, and they want you 468 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.960 to do prayer, they want you to do praise team, they want you 469 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.880 to do tides and offering. They want you to do all these things, 470 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.599 and you're burning yourself out. But the other people sitting down doing nothing. 471 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.360 Yeah, and I don't mean it in that sense. Yeah, And I 472 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:30.599 don't mean it that. I don't mean it in that sense of like they're 473 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.760 not doing nothing, but the people that are telling you or you should do 474 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:43.079 it are not doing it themselves. Yeah. I don't know. Sorry, 475 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.320 where you wanted to go with this? But I think this is a very 476 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:52.199 good point or place to stop and talk about for self care isn't, because 477 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:57.320 that, I feel is where we get stuck um saying no. It's just 478 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.880 one aspect of um self care. And I think that's tied to this idea 479 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.920 of selfishness, and that's a crucial bit because we feel that being self care 480 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:12.519 could be selfish and it's not. We think that self care could be self 481 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.599 indulgents and it's not. You know, there's certain things that we tie to 482 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.880 that word self care that we need to debunk. It's those myths being it's 483 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:25.119 not selfish to say no. Yeah, it's not selfish at all to say 484 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.800 no if no works best for you, and the people around you and the 485 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.960 people who support you and the people who love you will understand and know, 486 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.400 yeah, will appreciate. And I hate yes when the person really didn't want 487 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:45.519 to do it or won't do it an honest no personally. Then for someone 488 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.800 to say yes and they're not wanting to, or they can't, or you 489 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.599 know, all of that other stuff. But that's another topic. But I 490 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.800 think that we need to maybe stop a while here, Andy and just kind 491 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.639 of break down some of the things that people tie to self care, which 492 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:04.440 really we shouldn't. Yeah, And I think also the idea sometimes and I 493 00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.920 ask somebody this as well. You know, as a Christian, yes we 494 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.599 are, We're encouraged to serve, We're encouraged to help others. We are 495 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:15.239 our brothers, keeper, etc. Etc. But so if I then don't 496 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.559 do some of those things, or I've stepped back and I say no to 497 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.159 certain things, and I know for me, you know, taking it roles 498 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:27.360 within church and we talked about it, almost felt guilty because you're not doing 499 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.000 what you should be doing anything to serve. Well, I recognize my own 500 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:35.800 capacity. I have to set up my own boundaries. I can only do 501 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.239 so much. And you know what they're in theory. There are lots of 502 00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.519 people who could be doing some to be doing some things in church. Often 503 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.719 it's often the same people, So why can't we spread it out a little 504 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.400 bit more? But you know, it's almost like, well, I have 505 00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:51.079 to be a bit of a I feel like I have to be a bit 506 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.199 of a martyr, and that idea of kind of you know, this is 507 00:40:54.239 --> 00:41:00.760 my ticket to salvation. Salvation via works is sometimes I don't think it's so 508 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.039 preached in that way, but sometimes we get the impression it could be, 509 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.679 you know, the more things we do, the more active I am within 510 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.280 church, the more roles that I have, you know, that's already helpful, 511 00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:16.760 when actually that's probably sotripodentially so detrimental to yourself and those impacts around you, 512 00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:21.000 family, friends, etc. You know, And as we've talked about 513 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.039 it at the beginning, is that then giving of our best you know we 514 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.719 are we've talked about you know, it says, you know, our bodies 515 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.519 are our temples and the way in which we look after that is a way 516 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.800 of worshiping. So all of those things kind of have it's a bit of 517 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.280 a contradiction in terms in some ways. So yeah, that's an interest, 518 00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:45.320 that's very interest. A few months ago I was got a phone golf on 519 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.159 the pastor of my church and they say they are nominated me to do a 520 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.480 position in the church. And at first I was like, let me think 521 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:53.440 about it. And at first I was like, yeah, I could do 522 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.039 it, and I you know, thinking about it. And then as I 523 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.719 thought more and more and I realized my schedule with the wife the kids working 524 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.239 five days a week, I took I called them back and said no, 525 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.840 I no, I can't thank you for the nominate. But I can't because 526 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:13.400 I knew that if I took on that extra part in my duties, on 527 00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.760 my part in my life, that it was going to burn me out. 528 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.519 So you know, I'm just gonna do a quick plug. It's a book 529 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.119 called kind is defined by O. C. Daniels, and the book is 530 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:27.880 is pretty much be kind, not nice. There's a difference in because see, 531 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.239 people think when you say no that you're being mean. No does not 532 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:35.440 mean that you mean no, means that means what it means no, yeah, 533 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:40.800 or like yourself is right, like if you say no. We got 534 00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:45.639 such a stigma of the no word. The no has such a negative condentation 535 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.000 when you say no nowadays that that's why people don't want to say no. 536 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.039 They say yes, even like you just said and Xenia, they say no, 537 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.559 but you know they really don't want to do it, so they say 538 00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.960 yes. But you can tell by their body language, by their whole meaner. 539 00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:00.599 Oh, I really want to do but I'm just gonna say yes because 540 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.920 I don't want her to think bad about me. Right, well, yeah, 541 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.480 exactly, Um, and what about one of your thoughts on self indulgence 542 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:13.280 is self deier, self indungence. When I first heard the word, it's 543 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:15.760 become a buzzword now and as you say, Andrew, use it every day 544 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.239 and it's come to mean more. But when I first thought of self fier 545 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.519 self, it was a spa, you know, pardicure, manicure, you 546 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.280 know, it was a tree um if but one of those things you do 547 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.960 when you get some money or when you get some time, you'll take care 548 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:36.440 of yourself. But self care is, as we've set up the very top, 549 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.079 and the reason why we're talking about it today is in route of twenty 550 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:43.239 four seven that self care ought to be a lifestyle. You know, it's 551 00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:45.679 not a one off. It's not a tree, it's not you know, 552 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.599 it's not an experience or a reward. It's it's it's a lifestyle. And 553 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:53.639 we've got to learn to live our lives in that fashion by taking care of 554 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:59.159 ourselves. And another thing I think that we sometimes I'm linking it to that 555 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.880 that we wore or aspect, is that we think self care could be too 556 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.199 expensive or and in fact, you know what and clear you can speak, 557 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:12.840 you can speak to that, but to to invest in ourselves can be expensive, 558 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.559 but I think it's money well spent. You know, um, yes, 559 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:20.840 it costs more to eat it well to eat healthy generally. I mean, 560 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.320 if you go fast food and you get something quick and swift, it's 561 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.400 generally not the best for you. You've got to you've got to spend to 562 00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.599 get the vegetables and all that kind of stuff. And and you'll talk to 563 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.760 that bit more clear. But but this is money well spent, and we 564 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.039 can't just label it as expensive or you know, our waste of our resource 565 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:43.039 resources. We've got to make sure that we we we see self care as 566 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:47.840 an investment in ourselves and look at it as money well spent. And another 567 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:52.159 thing that I came across is that sometimes we think we think self care is 568 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:58.679 self reliance. You know that we we we can do it. That's what 569 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.239 we think self care is. We have we our own our own powerhouse, 570 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:07.960 we our own um sort of engine. But for us Christians, we definitely 571 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:12.079 definitely know that we we can't manage on our own. And self care is 572 00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.800 a holistic approach and it involves support systems. It involves you know, having 573 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:22.239 a good network, It involves sort of exercise and diet, It involves it's 574 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.760 a whole dam out of things and a whole damout of people that can't work 575 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:30.719 in our lives to help us to take care of ourselves. And and it's 576 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.480 reciprocal, you know. We we give and we take, and that's that's 577 00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.519 kind of how we keep a balance. We give to others, but there 578 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.880 should be people who give in to us so that we're not sort of depleted 579 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.119 and defeated like that. So these are some of the things that I saw, 580 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.480 and I thought, you know what, that's so true because we think 581 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.159 we have these things that we tie to self care that makes us think up 582 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.880 and we can't. We can't get into that so expensive. It's to that, 583 00:45:54.960 --> 00:46:00.000 it's to this, but really it isn't it is. And I'm very 584 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:04.360 passionate about it. And I don't practice as I preach the same as Angie 585 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.000 says, but we have to because if we don't take care of us, 586 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.400 and I say all the time, if we don't put the mask on first, 587 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:14.280 then we certainly can't put the masks on others, and we certainly can't 588 00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.000 be our best. So Claire, yeah, you can maybe tell us a 589 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:21.280 little bit, because that's a lot of what you do it's it's about advising 590 00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:27.199 others to and I suppose within your company investing self. That's why they come 591 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:29.639 to you. It's about, you know, not thinking that it's something you 592 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.440 can do on your own, but you do have to get the counselor or 593 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:37.559 the therapist or whatever if it's needed, if you come to that point where 594 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.119 you think it's needed, and investing yourself. Can I ask a good question. 595 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:45.280 I'm sorry it was actually to that point. When it comes to self 596 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.960 care, we say self, but clear in your experience, is it better 597 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.400 to have somebody of like mind that will help you to do the self care? 598 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.679 Can you add that on too? You understand what I mean? Yeah? 599 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.880 Yeah, accountability, Yeah yeah, I do find that. So there's 600 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.119 kind of two points I wanted to make. So with self care, I 601 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:08.320 think there's different levels. There's the you know, I'm going to take five 602 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:12.679 minutes for myself to enjoy a cup of tea without my phone. You know, 603 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.360 I'm going to journal, I'm gonna you know, even read your Bible, 604 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:20.360 that sort of thing where you're actually taking time to kind of recharge. 605 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:24.119 And then there's kind of the other end where you are investing in yourself by 606 00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:30.880 purchasing kind of services that you've just talked about, therapy or counseling, and 607 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:37.280 investing in yourself and investing in what you know eating well, like eating good 608 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.840 food, vegetables, fruit, etc. There is an investment there, but 609 00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.960 actually it pays back in the long term. And and you know what you've 610 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.039 just asked their pedrew. I think there is something about countability. I have 611 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:54.920 clients who know exactly what they need to do, but sometimes it's hard, 612 00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:59.800 especially with all everything that's out there about diets. You know this diet, 613 00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:02.519 that diet works for you, And I'm very much it depends on the person 614 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.480 in front of me. I work with the person in front of me. 615 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:10.039 But some people just get so overwhelmed with all the information that actually coming to 616 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:14.719 somebody like myself, I literally just strip it down into write what can you 617 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.840 manage? What is achievable for you? Because sometimes it's about baby steps. 618 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.239 If someone can make smaller steps of change, they're going to have bigger changes 619 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.199 in the long run. So I very much like that with my clients, 620 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:29.599 and some clients need that. They just need it broken down and it's the 621 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.639 smallest steps than someone walking with them going right, We're going to get you. 622 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:36.400 I'm going to get you to this point, and then once you get 623 00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.199 there, you're going to have more tools in your tool box and you're going 624 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:44.960 to be able to carry on. And sometimes people just need a strategy, 625 00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.119 a plan of action to get them so far, and then they're like once 626 00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:52.159 they're so far, you know. So for myself, I don't feel that 627 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.199 I need help with my diet because of everything that I've learned. And I 628 00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:59.639 do see there are times where, especially kinds of high stress, that I 629 00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.840 will start, you know, perhaps not eating as well as I could do, 630 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.679 but I have enough knowledge to go hang in a second, stop this, 631 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.960 now, let's get back on it. But for example, I'm going 632 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:13.360 to use I have help with my business because I still you know, I'm 633 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:15.920 still new in business. I'm still learning what business means, what it looks 634 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.559 like. So I need to go and get accountability with someone else. And 635 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:22.880 it's the same sort of principle, you know, Yes, that's for my 636 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:24.920 business. I invest in that because I want to be the best that I 637 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.559 can be for my clients. And it's the same sort of thing. You 638 00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.880 know, you invest in support and help so that you can be the best 639 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.840 that you can for yourself, your friends, your family, for church, 640 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:42.079 etc. Okay, so for somebody who was starting out then with you class, 641 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.119 somebody would come to you what a kind of you've mentioned about that you 642 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:50.000 strip it right down. So what kind of things would you then encourage somebody 643 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:54.000 to do? I mean do people come with specific things? I e. 644 00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:59.400 So whether it's to do with their nutrition or weight, or is it, 645 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:01.960 as you've said, you work quite holistically. Is it somebody who comes to 646 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.039 you? Do you know what, I'm burnt out, I'm tired, I'm 647 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.440 stressed, I need help with everything. Where do you kind of you know, 648 00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:10.880 what kind of things? What does that look like? And where do 649 00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.960 you start you know with that? What kind of things? Then? You 650 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.920 know, what are the simple things that they start with that you would start 651 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.280 with them with. I mean there's all sorts like so it usually is there's 652 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:24.719 a goal. I want to lose weight, I want to be healthy, 653 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.920 I want to be fitter. I look after individuals with chronic illness. Is 654 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.039 sometimes as I want to feel and have more energy. So there's a kind 655 00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:35.719 of combination of fact is why people come to me. So what I do 656 00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.039 is I do a kind of length the you know, we talk through, 657 00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.599 Okay, what are you feeling right now? What are you presenting with that? 658 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.639 Look at your health history, and then that gives me a really good 659 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:50.039 picture of actually what is going on behind the scenes. And then once I've 660 00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.760 looked at what's going behind the scenes, and I look at what they're currently 661 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:54.760 eating, and they're life start. It's not just about diets, about are 662 00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:59.360 you sleeping properly, are you moving your body or in a way that's right 663 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.960 for you. I then sort of meet them with their goals. To say 664 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:06.239 it was to lose weight, I'd be like, right, let's look at 665 00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.880 what you're currently eating. If you tweak your diet to do this, let's 666 00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:14.400 start with say, right now, I think you need to eat more vegetables. 667 00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:15.880 Right, let's put in more vegetables. I think you need to move 668 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:20.440 your body. But it's working with the client because if they're like, I 669 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.760 don't want to exercise right now, I'm like, well, I'm not going 670 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:24.719 to force you. I can tell you it's beneficial, and I can tell 671 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.639 you the reasons why, but I've also got to work with you. So 672 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:32.920 it's very much the person in front of me. What do I feel is 673 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.239 the most pressing need? Right now. And most of the time we start 674 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.400 with diet because actually, once I get people eating more balanced, they find 675 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.519 they have more energy, and then they're able to tackle other things. And 676 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.039 there's a lot it's not just about diet. A lot of what I do 677 00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:53.800 is mindset and behavior. It's like, sometimes it's coaching people to almost unlearned 678 00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:59.559 behaviors that are that are habits that aren't habits that are serving them, but 679 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:01.760 are just habits that are there for that they've just done for years, and 680 00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.119 it's almost starting to unpick why do you do that? Right? Can we 681 00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:10.440 put something better in place for you that means that you can eat better, 682 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.840 you can have the energy for example that you want to have. Another clients 683 00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:21.800 that you see have they specifically come to you because they've looked at themselves, 684 00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:23.039 So like, how do they you know? Because sometimes I think to myself, 685 00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.519 you know, what are the kind of warning signs that somebody might be 686 00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.000 neglecting their own self care? Is that's something that they recognize themselves, or 687 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:34.679 they may have come to you for one specific thing, and then once you 688 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.559 start to unpack it, you're just like, oh, things are really aren't 689 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.199 looking that good at all. Because I guess, you know, for our 690 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:45.039 listeners. You know, unless you've let you mentioned about the mindset, less 691 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.199 you're really thinking about that, then you might seek at someone like yourself. 692 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.119 But what could be the warning signs, you know somebody, is that you 693 00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.800 as somebody, you're neglecting your self care or actually things could be much better. 694 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.519 And so I guess it's various. So I'll just run through a list. 695 00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.960 I get through different things. But you know, often clients come to 696 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.360 me, you know, say, for example, they're like, I want 697 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:08.440 to lose weight, but actually when we're talking, they're like, oh, 698 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:14.480 but I'm getting bloated after eating, I'm sluggish. I find that I can't 699 00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.760 go a couple of hours without food, I don't have energy. I'm snacking 700 00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:22.280 late at night. And I'll be like going, okay, these are all 701 00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:24.199 things that are going to impact your ability to lose weight. But there's other 702 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:29.159 things going on behind the scenes. You're not eating a balanced diet, so 703 00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:35.159 therefore you're struggling with your energy levels as a consequence. Things like in terms 704 00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.800 of burnout, what I would see people saying that they've got a short temper 705 00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.639 if if they tell me that they shout at their children, for example, 706 00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.239 a lot more than they want to. It's often it's oftener. I don't 707 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.079 like myself doing it, but I find myself doing it. They find that 708 00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.519 they're becoming isolated, they're withdrawing from society, they don't have an interest in 709 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:59.199 hobbies. These are all sort of warning signs of actually you're becoming quite withdrawn, 710 00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.760 apathetic, dick. You're not managing you know, you've perhaps got compassion 711 00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.400 fatigue for example, decision fatigue, or you're just you're struggling to make decisions. 712 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:13.800 You're struggling to deal with life because actually you're just exhausted. And fatigue 713 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.719 is a big one that I see in clients. And fatigue is that exhaustion 714 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:21.880 beyond so so you have a good night's sleep, if you're tired, you 715 00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.119 have a good night's sleep, you should feel better. But if you have 716 00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:27.519 fatigue, it's like you have a good night's sleep and you wake up and 717 00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.760 you just are dragging yourself out of bed. Everything's heavy, everything feels like 718 00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.880 you're walking through treacle. You perhaps got brain fog, you know that just 719 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.199 sense of everything's foggy. I can't think straight, you know, I can't 720 00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:45.840 process information anywhere I want to, and I mean menopause also has an influence 721 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:47.880 on that too. Just as a side note, So a lot of times 722 00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.519 people will give me this, you know what they're struggling with. Then I 723 00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:52.719 can go, right, well, this looks like it could potentially be the 724 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:57.559 gut. This could be, you know, shines that your liver needs a 725 00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.559 bit of help. This could be signs that your your stress is a lot 726 00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.480 of the time it's a stress system. It's just tired and overworked and needs 727 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.719 a break. Thank you, very wow. I am so relating to so 728 00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:15.559 many of those things that you're just saying that I put my hand but you 729 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:21.679 see, but say, hear you say that I know those things, and 730 00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:23.400 I guess it's going that's you know, I think for myself. I talk 731 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:27.280 for myself. It kind of goes very up and down. I have periods 732 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:31.039 where it's just like all of those things. Thankfully, I do have that 733 00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:35.199 knowledge that I can kind of, you know, get it together. I 734 00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.000 have done various things, but it's therapy having a coach where have you, 735 00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:42.440 because I think having somebody that, as you've said, to be accountable to, 736 00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.360 or somebody you can just kind of help you do those things. Because 737 00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.960 interesting is you know, things like decision, you know, struggling to make 738 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.519 decisions, or you're just tired. Somebody else helping you with that, Yeah, 739 00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:58.960 you know can be that sort of kickstart, can be that thing to 740 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.599 kind of get you through. So hmm, okay, give me lots of 741 00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:07.519 think about there any other thoughts on that, Petro, No, Okay, 742 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.480 we're gonna go for that piece of music. It's a good break. We're 743 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:15.920 gonna go to um Kurt, car I almost let go because sometimes that's where 744 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.679 it feels that way. But you know, with help and by God's grace, 745 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:25.639 we still can make it through. So I almost let go. Car. 746 00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:35.880 Yes, So I wouldn't let go. Anybody in here ever felt like 747 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.880 giving up, just throwing in the towel, just giving up. I'm not 748 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:45.679 gonna ask you to hunt anybody, but just look at them. That person 749 00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.000 you're looking at is here to night only because of God's mercy and is grace. 750 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:55.159 Somebody only just tell God, thank you for your mercy and your grace 751 00:56:55.199 --> 00:57:20.719 set kept me most. I felt like I just could take life a bold 752 00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:36.000 m Mys had me down, should wake me down? God he close, 753 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:45.480 so I wouldn't. God's mercy can't Can I get a witness in here? 754 00:57:45.719 --> 00:58:02.039 So I wouldn't let I almost gave up most gay, I was right the 755 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:16.400 edge of a break, could see tell really hang. But Jess came and 756 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:29.440 grab and dre So I wouldn't. God's versy keptain God's very Can I get 757 00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:46.639 a witness in here that knows about God's grace? So I'm here today? 758 00:58:49.039 --> 00:59:08.760 Gra Why so I come on? Hunt somebody next year? To him? 759 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.480 I was really down. I was really down. The devil really happened. 760 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:17.400 But God's versy kept me. I'm here tonight because of God's mercy. Come 761 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:30.039 on, don't just thank him? Just thank him? I Oh, let 762 00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:43.119 cool. I feel like I just couldn't take a life. Uni more my 763 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:53.920 problems happy now? Good? Russia down? God help me? Oh, 764 00:59:54.079 --> 01:00:50.079 I wouldn't let go God, I see, so I wouldn't go. I 765 01:00:50.360 --> 01:01:04.480 can be a you. I don't know what I and how I went. 766 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:23.719 Not Russian had so far down that I didn't know who. Yeah, but 767 01:01:23.880 --> 01:02:00.480 it to become a ch that's the soul of MoMA. Yeah, okay, 768 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:05.719 I almost let go. By care cars. So we've been talking about self 769 01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:10.599 care and the idea that self care is incredibly crucial especially in the fast paced 770 01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:14.960 life that we're living in, society that we're living in. We talk a 771 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:19.199 little bit about how we can you know, why it's important, what the 772 01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.280 kind of signs that we could be just talked about, spoke about the signs 773 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:27.199 that you could be neglecting your own self care. So I guess what we 774 01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:29.599 want to kind of go into a bit more now is just kind of what 775 01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:34.480 kind of things can we do. We've got Claire from Nourish Ticket to Saw 776 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.480 and Claire Actually, well, I think about it. How did your name 777 01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:45.079 come about? Azariah forty thirty one. Those that hope in the Lord will 778 01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:49.159 renew their strength, they will saw on wings of eagles. They will run 779 01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.320 and not grow weary. And when I had chronic fatigue syndrome, I lived 780 01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:58.280 by this because I knew that one day I would run and not grow weary. 781 01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:00.559 Oh that's wonderful. That's one of my That's my favorite text actually, 782 01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:05.960 that one. So yeah, so yeah, I love that. Yeah. 783 01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:09.199 And I'm actually often looked at that to kind of interesting when you know, 784 01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:15.239 I'm feeling really tired or feel like I can't keep going. M Yeah, 785 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:19.000 that and and I shan't say the other one as well where it says you 786 01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.840 know, Jesus will uphold with his righteous right hand, because I kind of 787 01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.559 feel that he's going to scoop me up and help me. What have you? 788 01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:28.760 So? Oh no, I love that nourish to sw Yeah, that's 789 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.280 cool, that's cool. So I guess we've been talking about self care and 790 01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:36.639 what we can things, you know, why we will do this? So 791 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.199 what kind of things and practices? Now we've all mentioned a couple of things 792 01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:49.239 there, but what are some self care practices that you would encourage somebody to 793 01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:54.360 do? Now if somebody comes to you with a specific concern or need there 794 01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:59.760 maybe you know, things like you said around your diet or possible exercise, 795 01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:04.079 But are there any other things that can really Yeah, because I guess there's 796 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:06.440 I mean, when I was thinking about self care also, I was thinking 797 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:10.800 about you know, there's obviously your emotional self care that you can look at. 798 01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:15.159 Somebody described to me, you know, self care being really impactful on 799 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:18.400 your own mental health and well being. And from a spiritual perspective, you 800 01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:20.880 know, God wants to kind of speak to us, and you know, 801 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:25.039 we want our minds to be open so that we can readily hear him but 802 01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:28.639 it's also our physical self care and also I suppose to self care as well. 803 01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:35.400 So what kind of all of those So I guess you know, what 804 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:43.480 kind of self care practices you know can we suggest to our self listeners as 805 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.079 well? Um, I mean, I'm going to take the example of my 806 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:50.440 morning routine and where I would always say, start small, start with what 807 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:56.119 you can manage. So for me, my morning routine, I get up, 808 01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.960 I stretch, so I have sometimes stretching, so I'm moving my boy. 809 01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:01.199 Do I go and feed the chickens? Okay, grunted. Not everyone 810 01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:05.360 can go and feed the chickens, granted, But I get outside. I 811 01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:09.719 get outside for five minutes. I go and feed my chickens and I take 812 01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:12.920 some time breathing like as I do that, I like to sit and watch 813 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:16.480 them for a bit, and then I pray, I read my Bible and 814 01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:20.599 I journal. So within all of those practices, I'm getting outside. If 815 01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:26.800 you get outside within, you know, as early as possible, it helps 816 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.719 with sleep. Actually, so later on and sleep it's you know, if 817 01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:32.639 we get enough sleep, that's going to help with our ability to look after 818 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:36.800 ourselves. I've got into nature. Being with nature can help, you know, 819 01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:42.840 listening to bird sounds, just being being still, like be still, 820 01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:45.280 I know that I am God. I always come back to that one. 821 01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:48.599 You know, I'm just sit there for a moment in you know, whatever 822 01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:55.400 weather is watching my chickens, but it's I'm surrounded by quiet. Obviously, 823 01:05:55.400 --> 01:06:00.320 it depends where you live. Grunted the journaling, I think sometimes I get 824 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:03.360 I get what I call spaghetti brain or busy brain. And actually, by 825 01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:08.039 journaling and putting my thoughts onto paper, they're not stuck in my head. 826 01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:13.079 So it's going to help me. Like, especially with lots of I have 827 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.760 a lot to juggle with different things that I'm doing, and I find, 828 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.239 in fact, my brain's too busy. I can't manage to juggle everything. 829 01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:21.880 So actually by writing stuff down and then making sure I'm going to the Bible 830 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:26.440 because I want to feed myself spiritually as well as you know, yes, 831 01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:28.519 I get a good breakfast, I should point that out. I get a 832 01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:31.280 good breakfast too. You know, Am I eating a balanced breakfast? Am 833 01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:34.800 I making sure I'm not just eating, for example, something like sugary cereal, 834 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:40.360 But am I eating something that's got a good balance of protein, whole 835 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.159 whole grains like you know healthy fats have I got that sort of really good 836 01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:49.519 balance which is going to keep me fuller for longer and keep me concentrating and 837 01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:55.639 productive. So whilst that seems like quite a lot of different things, it's 838 01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:59.599 about taking what you need to do, focusing on one thing at a time, 839 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:02.239 doing it for a couple of weeks, and then building on it. 840 01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.840 So this is taking me years to get to this point, but it is 841 01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:10.840 about starting small. So could you just say, stretch for five minutes, 842 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:14.480 move your body? Could you do five minutes of journaling? If you're someone 843 01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:15.960 that if you think of journaling, it's got to be for hours. It's 844 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.159 like, no, get a timer, five minutes, don't think about what 845 01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:25.519 you're writing, and just write and see what happens. You know, it's 846 01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:30.239 all those little things you know that actually will build up and just keep building 847 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.440 and then yeah, you'll find that you are giving yourself that time. Well, 848 01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:35.079 it's interesting, as you said that, one of the things when I 849 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:40.400 speak to my students, I always say to them be realistic, Like, 850 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:43.320 you know, as much as I will be encouraging all these different self care 851 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:47.119 practices, I'm just like be real I could digest I'm always saying, you 852 01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:50.800 know, I could suggest one hundred and one different things, but I'm not 853 01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:55.840 expecting you to try all of them possibly, but be realistic about what you 854 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:59.760 could do. I'm all for encouraging them to try new things or different things, 855 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:03.199 maybe step outside your comfort zone, but be realistic with what you're trying 856 01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:05.639 to do, you know. And as you said, you don't necessarily have 857 01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:10.199 to write in a journal for hours and hours. You know. I may 858 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.800 say, you know, sometimes I may suggest some journal prompts. It could 859 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.600 be three things you're thankful for, or a couple of things you're grateful for, 860 01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:20.760 or what have you achieved or what have you? You know, But 861 01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:25.920 like you said, start small and be realistic, because I think I'm all 862 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:30.279 for setting goals, but if your goals are unrealistic, you're almost setting yourself 863 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:33.680 for failure before you've even started. And I think sometimes, you know, 864 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:38.680 when you're trying new things, trying to incorporate new habits, and they say 865 01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:43.720 it text at least twenty something days to you know, to imprint that and 866 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:47.079 keep that going. Yes, it's really important and also something that's really going 867 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:54.760 to make sense within your own life and lifestyle, you know. And I 868 01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:59.479 think sometimes that could be a reason why sometimes people don't necessarily stick to something 869 01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.439 because it's just not realistic. It's not something that they would naturally do, 870 01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:11.000 as much as you are trying to change the habit. So yeah, generally 871 01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:15.880 is a good one. Breathing, definitely, And it's quite interesting sometimes. 872 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:17.039 I know when I've suggested that people are like, yeah, but I breathe, 873 01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.560 and you're like, do you Yes, we're breathing because we're alive. 874 01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:26.720 It's seeking fun to be but actually real intentional breathing, you know, And 875 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:30.520 there's obviously different types in terms of how many breaths you best you take in, 876 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.520 how long you're holding it for, but really focusing on the breath. 877 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:40.279 And I love the idea that you're sitting in quiet as well. I think 878 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:43.880 I remember it's one of the things that I really noted during COVID and we 879 01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.159 were we were forced to the pandemic, we were forced to sometimes being at 880 01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:51.560 we were forced to be in our houses spend time. I really noted how 881 01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:56.079 much of the bird song I really heard and how much at she know, 882 01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:57.880 we woulday, yeah, we get at you know, they're encouraging you to 883 01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.680 get out into nature, go for a walk, but because everything was much 884 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:04.880 quieter than it would possibly normally be, we were noticing a lot more and 885 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:11.439 I'm sure lots of people probably benefited from that with probably without even realizing, 886 01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.359 you know. So yeah, good, there's some good practical steps there. 887 01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:18.439 Send you any other ideas on self gear practice, anything that you've done yourself 888 01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:24.359 or that you could encourage somebody to do, just as I you mentioned with 889 01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:28.000 COVID. And I know it was an awful time for so many reasons, 890 01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:33.479 but that quiet I mean, I really treasured it, and so many people 891 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:39.439 did the opportunity to bond with their families and things like that, And what 892 01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:44.199 I would want to suggest is that people pull what worked from that time and 893 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:46.920 keep it going, because there's nothing to stop us from setting aside, a 894 01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:51.279 Sunday afternoon or whatever it is, for making pizza and bread. Oh did 895 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:56.840 the flower and the wheat yeas come off the shelves quite good. Everybody was 896 01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.479 bread making, everybody was banking, all that kind of stuff. These are 897 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.920 good practices, you know, and there's no reason why we have to stop 898 01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:06.439 doing them. Cycling together as a family, you know, saying no to 899 01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:12.279 the noise distractions too even I mean I had people get quite upset with me. 900 01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:15.279 I mean it was for health reasons that I said that we weren't going 901 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.520 to accept visitors. But it was nice to just be still, be here, 902 01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.479 be without the fuss. And I know people are going to get faxed 903 01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:26.399 when I say that, but it was it was nice. I enjoyed it. 904 01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:29.439 Not everybody did, and it's not for everyone. And that's again why 905 01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.800 we say self care is a personal thing, and it's it's it's an evolving 906 01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:35.760 thing even and because where you are now, it's not necessarily where you'll be 907 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:40.239 in five years from now. And the practices that you put in place now 908 01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:45.000 may not five next five years. So it is an evolving thing. So 909 01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:48.239 just keep an eye on that and some of the other stuff. And I 910 01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:54.239 really like what you said about being making it achievable and realistic, because that 911 01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:58.159 is my issue. I know what I should do, and often I put 912 01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:01.319 in place things, but I just don't keep it up. I am inconsistent. 913 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:04.199 I mean, bring me the New Year every year, and I've got 914 01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:08.720 a couple of things that I'm gonna do. In fact, two years ago 915 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.199 a self care year for my family, my sisters and I always be dubbed 916 01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:14.680 it self Care Year. It's going to be all about the SPA, the 917 01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:21.479 health tips. So this is about the other And by February so yes, 918 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:27.760 so love. You know, we were exhausted. We were back on the 919 01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.840 same train we were on, you know, a year ago. And I 920 01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:33.079 think that is my problem saying no, not so much of an issue, 921 01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:41.319 but sticking to the things that I know good for me. I struggle with 922 01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:45.399 that and that's why I said at the top of when I started, you 923 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:47.840 know what, maybe it is about scheduling those things that we know we ought 924 01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:51.359 to do, set aside the time, carve the time out, make the 925 01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:56.039 time and put it in our schedules or whatever it might need to be, 926 01:12:56.119 --> 01:13:00.039 reminders, etc. So that we stick to it. Because that's that's nice 927 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:05.840 too. I don't stick I have not stick it tuitivities. I guess there's 928 01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:10.199 something in that is there. And it's interesting when we talk about sometimes there 929 01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:13.520 is that notion that we don't have time for self care. And actually, 930 01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.199 you know, very simple time management exercise would be to really kind of take 931 01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:20.119 your average day or average week. I really look at how you spend your 932 01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:24.239 time. I mean, we know we have twenty four hours in a day. 933 01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:29.800 Really, that's plenty enough time to do most things. Things probably either 934 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:32.119 take longer than we think it will do, or if they don't take as 935 01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:35.720 long as you think it will do. And there's probably a lot of and 936 01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:41.760 I say this really carefully time wasting, you know. And again it depends 937 01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:45.680 on what those things are. So not saying any specific activity is a time 938 01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:48.319 waster, but there probably is. But you know, and I'm certainly not 939 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:51.720 then suggesting that you schedule every second, every minute down to a tea, 940 01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:56.640 unless you're that sort of person, But actually there probably is time to spend 941 01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:00.680 five minutes. Five minutes really isn't that long. And once you start to 942 01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:02.039 get into the practice of that, and if it's something that really works for 943 01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:04.560 you, before you know it, you could be doing half an hour of 944 01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:09.960 exercise and it's no big deal, you know. And like you said, 945 01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:14.079 if you if you're starting a practice, it may mean like I, sometimes 946 01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:16.039 they are programs that I want to hear on the radio and I have to 947 01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:18.159 set an alarm. It's who I am. I know who I am. 948 01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:23.399 I have to set an alarm to remind me to plug into the radio to 949 01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:26.840 listen to it. But after a while it gets a part of me and 950 01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:30.079 I don't need the alarm anymore. So sometimes it's how you start. You 951 01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:33.119 start by scheduling at ten to five every morning, you set your alarm. 952 01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:36.319 You're gonna wake up, You're gonna stretch. That's something you may have to 953 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:40.760 do. And then after a while, you want me to set the alarm 954 01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.239 your body. You'll wake up, you'll stretch, you the kind of thing. 955 01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:45.279 So these are the things that you may have to start doing to implement 956 01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:48.800 them into your routine. And then once you've got going, then you may 957 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:53.279 not need to do all that. But it really is for me, the 958 01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:56.880 consistency, And that's why it may take an alarm, and it takes a 959 01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.600 reminder on my calendar, et cetera, et cetera, post it not on 960 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.079 my screen, whatever it may be, just to prompt me to do the 961 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:08.880 things that I need to do. And when you spoke about having accountability partners, 962 01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:10.720 someone who might call me and say, you know what, do you 963 01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:13.199 want to go for a run today? I write today, whatever the case 964 01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.199 might be. So it's putting those things you know yourself, you know what 965 01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.439 you'll need to put in place to help you to be consistent. In that 966 01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:26.439 journey because by certainly I can't do it at all, you know, family 967 01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:31.079 going and I'm still all I need to do. But it is a journey 968 01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:35.960 and it's a process, and I think, sorry I was going to say, 969 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:41.720 I think it's also recognizing how you feel as a consequence of doing their 970 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:45.920 action and holding onto that. So one thing that I've actually developed in the 971 01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:49.760 last few months is Sabbath practice. I know you guys do do that, 972 01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:55.760 which is awesome, but we're actually doing Sabbath now. So Saturday nights for 973 01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:00.159 us, it's the meal they switching our phones off for twenty four hours. 974 01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:05.920 And actually I have taken such value in that and actually turning my phone off 975 01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:13.560 and having that disconnection from the demands of the world. And yes it does. 976 01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:19.319 It has taken real like what's the wor commitment to doing it, Like 977 01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:25.560 I've really had to think about it, But actually I've seen how much I 978 01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:29.479 feel better for doing it. So now when I think about it, I'm 979 01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:33.439 actually I look forward to switching my phone off on a Sunday and actually it's 980 01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:38.000 like it's it's been life giving for me. I think when we really connect, 981 01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:41.039 you know, by having those even if it's starting with those five minutes. 982 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.840 I have those five minutes, I feel that I'm not shouting at the 983 01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:47.640 kids so much, for example, or I feel more productive, or I 984 01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:50.359 have more energy, you know, whatever it is, if you can really 985 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:56.560 figure out how much better it makes you feel and capture that. I think 986 01:16:56.560 --> 01:17:00.560 every time you don't do it, it's like reminding yourself, if I do 987 01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:03.960 this, it will make me feel better. And I think often I'm sure 988 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:09.760 people are surprised as well that actually so something like you know you mentioned about 989 01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:13.199 switching off your phone for twenty four hours or not checking it is often what 990 01:17:13.279 --> 01:17:15.960 have you? The act? She's going to make a huge impact on your 991 01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:18.119 life because you're doing something so redically different. Actually, why don't you start 992 01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:21.520 doing it in the ground scheme? Sometimes it really doesn't make a lot of 993 01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:28.279 difference, you know, Um, I mean change back the amount of plant 994 01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:32.079 that especially are young people, the amount of plan they spend on these gadgets 995 01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:35.840 and on these screens. I mean, yeah, doing that will give them 996 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:42.680 a whole day. But to do something more productive perhaps or whatever. M 997 01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:53.479 That's what I was are you going to ask me? I was going to 998 01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:56.680 ask you, Pedro about your own self care practice of what you would do. 999 01:17:56.920 --> 01:18:00.399 Because the funny that Zer said that because one of the things my wife 1000 01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:04.479 and I do, as Zenya said about the pandemic. As bad as it 1001 01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:10.439 was, it was actually a blessing in disguise for my wife and I because 1002 01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:14.079 it allowed us to stop and realize some of the things that we was doing 1003 01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:17.920 that was hurting our marriage and also hurting ourselves and one of those sub kids 1004 01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:21.439 that we do like with our kids. So like a forty five, we're 1005 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:25.680 still we're still working on it's not all the way. There's baby steps, 1006 01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:30.520 but a forty five everything goes down. Because we had worship at nine, 1007 01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:33.960 So I told him, fifteen minutes before, you need to take everything down, 1008 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.960 turn off everything, put your phone down, put I turn off the 1009 01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:42.159 TV. And if we just sit there and don't do nothing, just let 1010 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:46.000 your brain breathe, that is better than because you know, you can't be 1011 01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.880 looking at TV and then turn off the TV and go right into worship. 1012 01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.800 You know, just kind of meditate. And sometimes so for the fifteen minutes 1013 01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:57.960 we'll sit there, we'll just talk and laugh with each other and make jokes 1014 01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:00.199 with each other before we start worship. And I find that to be so 1015 01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:10.359 therapeutic family. For I forgot the word for our health, for our well 1016 01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.640 being, because it just allows us to relax and then we can have worship. 1017 01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:18.399 And then the worship is part of the self care, but it's as 1018 01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:23.359 a family, but we're all self caring for each other doing the worship. 1019 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:26.720 And so that's like one that's some of the things that that's one of the 1020 01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:30.680 things that we do as a family. I myself personally find for like for 1021 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:32.560 my self self care. I'm really bad, Like I've stopped. I used 1022 01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:34.640 to eat at night all the time. My wife just said to me the 1023 01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:38.079 other day, I see you don't got no snacks in your drawer because I 1024 01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:41.119 just put snacks in my jawer and like one o'clock, two o'clock in the 1025 01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:44.079 morning, I'm eating some cookies. I'm eating a cake or something. You 1026 01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:45.359 know. My wife would be like, oh, you guys, stop doing 1027 01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:49.640 that. I'm like, but I'm hungry. So I've now baby steps. 1028 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:55.720 I stopped little by little and now I could be like last night I was 1029 01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:59.560 hungry, but just when it got a glass of water and I was able 1030 01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:02.920 to make it. The morning, I didn't I didn't eat anything, which 1031 01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:05.359 normally in the past, I would have been sucking down out of it, 1032 01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:10.359 you know what kind of stuff. You know, So it just takes, 1033 01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:14.720 like you said, just take determination takes. You just have to consistently repetitious. 1034 01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:15.640 You have to keep doing it and do it and doing it. And 1035 01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:19.680 if you keep doing it, it's almost like brain muscle. Your brain automatically 1036 01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:25.239 allows you to to do what you need to do for self care. M 1037 01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:29.560 I And one other thing I always I think I've said this before, like 1038 01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:31.600 when I work, I drive a lot. So when I get home, 1039 01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:35.960 I will park my car outside and I won't get out of my car right 1040 01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:40.800 the way. I would literally sit in my car for ten fifteen minutes before 1041 01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:43.800 I walk into the house. The kids will see me because we have a 1042 01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:45.920 ring so they can see me in the front, and they get My son 1043 01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.880 would look out his windows see me in the back and he'll see me sitting 1044 01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:50.439 there in the car, and I waved to him, and I'll still sit 1045 01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:55.760 in the car and I and during that time, I just out of out 1046 01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:59.439 of journal, but I just decompressed. I just kind of just let myself 1047 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.039 think about everything that went on to the day, and it was anything that 1048 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:03.840 bothered me. I just say, okay, y'all, let that go. 1049 01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:08.840 And then I just kind of mentally prepare myself to walk into my house because 1050 01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:11.920 when you're walk into my house, it's like, you know, the kids 1051 01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:14.560 are running and died, the girls are running, give me a hug, 1052 01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:16.560 hide that, you know, so I have to like. So that's for 1053 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:20.159 me, that's a that's my way of self care because that way, I 1054 01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:26.079 don't walk in and I'm all um, high up in an atmosphere from the 1055 01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:29.840 day and now I gotta deal with with you know, with the family. 1056 01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:32.000 So I feel like if people was to do that, it would help a 1057 01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:34.359 lot of people, specially men when they come home. For any women, 1058 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:40.079 but I'm just talking about for myself as a man, that it would definitely 1059 01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:44.199 help if you was to just take some time before you in between, if 1060 01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:47.479 that makes sense. So if I'm work to home, or even sometimes from 1061 01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:51.600 home to work, before you're going to work, take a few minutes before 1062 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:55.359 you go into work. You know, we have it running late. We 1063 01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:59.000 gotta get to work. You you're rushing, you're dropping everything. You got 1064 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:00.680 your drink overhead, you know, your bag over here, and you're rushing 1065 01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:04.399 into work and then you you're bombarded, and then now you're over Now you're 1066 01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:10.600 over stimulated. You can't think. Yeah, yeah, that's my time management. 1067 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:14.880 It's such an important subcre too. Yeah yeah, well you know everywhere. 1068 01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:16.720 But you know this the funny thing, right, if you're late, 1069 01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:21.199 are you already? If you're late, why are you rushing? You're already 1070 01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:26.159 late? They're serious. If you're late, why are you rushing? You're 1071 01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:30.159 later ready? If you let your late, it's not gonna listen, it's 1072 01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:33.039 not gonna change nothing. If I'm running late, I'm running late. I'm 1073 01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:36.640 gonna be late. Guess how late you actually want to be? But I 1074 01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:41.159 hear it's talking about that's the point. How late you're gonna be doesn't make 1075 01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.920 a difference. If you're ten or fifteen minutes late, Does it really make 1076 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:50.920 a differences? No, don't see that's the story. Listen with my job, 1077 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.239 Okay, you know what, maybe because my job, I drive around 1078 01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:57.279 to different homes and I get stuck in traffic all the time, so sometimes 1079 01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:00.359 i'm late. So I get phone calls sometimes that they'll be like, oh, 1080 01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:02.479 yeah, you're supposed to be at eleven o'clock. I'm like, yeah, 1081 01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:04.720 I'm in traffic. Well, you're supposed to be eleven o'clock. Again, 1082 01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:08.880 I'm in traffic, so I'm late. What do you want me to 1083 01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:11.640 do? Would you like me to you know, do like um um Booso 1084 01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:15.720 might Booso mighty the movie where he moved the cards and they had to pass 1085 01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.479 straight path. I can't do that, so guess what. I'm late. 1086 01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:21.800 If I'm late, I'm late. I will get there when I get there. 1087 01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:27.479 And it's just what it is. So it's like, that's self care. 1088 01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:30.560 Yeah, yeah, you can't justus. Do you know if you're running 1089 01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:34.520 the rain, you'll get wetter if then if you walk, really, yes, 1090 01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:36.800 if you run to try if you're interest raining one day, if you 1091 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:41.279 run where people running the rain, they actually get wetter. But if you 1092 01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:47.199 just walk in the rain, you won't get his wet. Interesting, That's 1093 01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:50.319 that's what I'm saying. If you don't, if you just take your time, 1094 01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:58.279 you'll still get to the destination. No, I'm just saying, if 1095 01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:02.159 you take your time and think of yourself, you will still get to your 1096 01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.239 destination. That's true. But what I wanted to pick up actually, what 1097 01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:10.039 you were saying about your family. Self care really isn't just as much as 1098 01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:14.319 it's important for ourselves as individuals. You highlighted a really key point there, 1099 01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:17.439 because it extends to our families, to our workplaces, with our colleagues, 1100 01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:23.399 and I suppose ultimately with our communities. So I guess that's the question to 1101 01:24:23.439 --> 01:24:28.319 everybody, how can we kind of create a culture of self care that benefits 1102 01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:32.279 everybody? And I guess this sort of links in now. I sometimes sometimes 1103 01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:38.039 we're out and about and there are times what I think people are so selfish, 1104 01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:42.359 they're really looking out for themselves, and whilst we're talking about self care, 1105 01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:46.520 there's I guess there's kind of suppose a fine line between that. Yes, 1106 01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:50.520 it's about looking at for people, looking looking after yourself, but we 1107 01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:55.000 don't want to be selfish because you want to you want to impact positively for 1108 01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:58.199 people. So you know, how can we encourage that more? You know, 1109 01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:00.800 that sort of culture of self care. That's not like a question for 1110 01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:05.760 Claire. Yeah, you took about the benefits of your family and also the 1111 01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:10.560 things that you're doing for yourself, decompressing for your day so you can be 1112 01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:13.800 the best person for your family. So there's kind of a knock on effect 1113 01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.399 and then you're doing things for family as well. So actually, I think 1114 01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:21.439 if you the way we do it in my family, I think it shows 1115 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:26.920 to other people we don't have to do nothing. We just keep doing it 1116 01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:30.840 the way we're doing it, and automatically it automatically shares other people. I 1117 01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.239 was telling my kids the other day. We did a lesson and it was 1118 01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:38.239 about a fire and the embers, you know how they pop out and they 1119 01:25:38.279 --> 01:25:40.880 start a fire. And I was telling them that if we have the fire 1120 01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:44.359 of God in us, then the ambers were just spread out and then people 1121 01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:48.159 were people. People will catch fire from us because they will see that we 1122 01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:51.800 have God in our lives, and then they will wonder why you that way? 1123 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:56.119 Yeah, and then they'll think. And a case in point, my 1124 01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:00.399 daughter has friends come over and whenever they come over, we act the same 1125 01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:03.239 way we do that if we was with nobody was in the house, and 1126 01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:06.039 end of the day the friends are like, Oh, I just love your 1127 01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:09.920 family. They're so cool, they're so you know, like, and so 1128 01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:15.920 you just be yourself and and it deserves and keep doing the self care that 1129 01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:18.680 you need for your family, and then people. I think people will see 1130 01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:23.199 that because there's no you can't if you go to tell somebody, Oh you 1131 01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:25.560 should do this, then they're going to say, shut up, you don't 1132 01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:29.800 know you're talking about. So if you just lead by example and do it, 1133 01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.000 people have more of a tendency to then pay attention because then they're wondering, 1134 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:35.159 why are you that way? Okay, yeah, because people are nosy 1135 01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:42.159 and pokey. Yeah that interesting? Yeah, clear, Any thoughts on that? 1136 01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:46.239 Um? Yeah, what Patrick? What Patrick said exactly what I was 1137 01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:49.840 thinking. I think sometimes it's about being a role model. They're actually going, 1138 01:26:50.119 --> 01:26:54.880 this is what I'm doing, and then people seeing they're kind of fruit 1139 01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:58.680 from what you're doing. So as you invest in yourself, you look after 1140 01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:01.920 yourself. Perhaps you're not it's irritable, Perhaps you're more productive. Perhaps you 1141 01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:06.199 are able to turn up for your colleagues or your family or your friends in 1142 01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:11.319 a different way because you've got more capacity to listen to them when they're when 1143 01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:14.840 they're struggling, for example. And I think people see that and they go, 1144 01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:16.319 oh, well, and you talk about, oh, you know, 1145 01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:20.239 I've been putting this self care routine into practice, and they're like, oh, 1146 01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:23.720 oh, I see that it's made a difference for you. Perhaps I'll 1147 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:27.920 try it for myself. And they see a different and then they begin to 1148 01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:30.359 see the difference as too. Yeah, I mean definitely well being in the 1149 01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:33.239 workplace, and then you might be able to speak to this as well being 1150 01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:38.119 in hr that that seems to be quite a I'm going to say a thing, 1151 01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:41.319 but they're really they're getting that's something that's being really highlighted a lot, 1152 01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:45.880 you know, because you know, mental health difficulties seem to be on the 1153 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:48.680 rise. There's been a lot definitely a knock on effect from you post pandemic, 1154 01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:55.000 so you know, looking after people's well being because I'm sure studies will 1155 01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:59.199 show that if your people's well being are good, people will be more productive, 1156 01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:01.800 I'll be more beneficial, you know, they'll take less sick days, 1157 01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:05.760 that kind of thing. So you know, it's only going to benefit everybody 1158 01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:08.760 in the long run. And I think, like you said, Claire, 1159 01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:12.920 role modeling and especially you know, so things like you know, practice that 1160 01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:16.000 managers do. I'd like to think it starts from the top down and influences 1161 01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:19.319 that's going to really make a difference to kind of have that kind of we're 1162 01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:24.880 talking about culture or that environment that is going to be conducive to good well 1163 01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:27.920 being and you know, help with your mental health, So there's any of 1164 01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:30.920 any thoughts on that as well. But you've said it, you know, 1165 01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:34.079 it starts at the top and it trickles down and it's it's as the head 1166 01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:39.399 goes, you know, and a lot of it as as you've said from 1167 01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:43.279 covid E such the fallout has been so significant that is to put it back 1168 01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:47.520 on the agenda or more on the agenda mental health, wellness, holistic approaches 1169 01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:53.960 to work and the work culture. There's a lot going on around that sphere 1170 01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:57.840 and there's a lot of resources so people can Top Mind is doing part bit 1171 01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:00.439 on that as well, So there is a lot out if anybody wants to 1172 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:06.319 get that agenda going, there are resources to doing it. And obviously there 1173 01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:11.239 is so much to say about what value it brings to the workplace. This 1174 01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:14.159 is not a new thing. We know if you if you're healthier, if 1175 01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:16.560 you're happier, you'll produce more. And some people only look at the bottom 1176 01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:19.760 line, So then you have to show them the correlation. You have to 1177 01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:25.880 show them that it makes sense dollars and cents, pounds and pence to be 1178 01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:31.000 able to prioritize wellness in the workplace and making it a culture. You know, 1179 01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:36.279 maybe start a lunch club where at lunch time the office goes for walk 1180 01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:43.119 you know, cycle to work schemes where where persons can get discounts for getting 1181 01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:46.720 cycles through the workplace and cycling to work as opposed to driving. So putting 1182 01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:50.039 these little and it's little steps, same way as we do it in our 1183 01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:56.720 personal lives. It's little steps, little little slightly introducing them into the agenda, 1184 01:29:56.800 --> 01:30:01.159 not overwhelming anyone, but introducing them slowly, slowly into the agenda and 1185 01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:05.680 slowly changing the culture. Because that's it's a little step, but it goes 1186 01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:09.279 a long way. As you said in the very beginning, Claire, Um, 1187 01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:14.880 and we can make those differences, and it starts at HR runs usually 1188 01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:19.279 UM champions it, but it's not an HR as you we all have to 1189 01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:23.680 get involved. Yeah, I think that is key because it is it is 1190 01:30:23.720 --> 01:30:26.720 a collective. And when we're thinking about how you can impact the word of 1191 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:31.079 communities as well, you know, self care could also be things like and 1192 01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:35.399 I know, volunteering, you know, because those things can either when you're 1193 01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:40.319 helping others that can help you feel good about something as well, where you're 1194 01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:44.039 giving back to society, where you're sharing your skills, your talents or your 1195 01:30:44.079 --> 01:30:45.960 knowledge, that kind of thing. So there's lots of different ways that you 1196 01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.520 can do that, you know. I think self care has many forms. 1197 01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:56.079 And if you get pushing pushing back on people who don't don't see as useful 1198 01:30:56.119 --> 01:31:00.399 and making the correlation for those people who only see the figures, you know, 1199 01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:02.720 all that kind of stuff, because there's some some places where it's it's 1200 01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:05.439 frowned upon if you take a break, a decent break, or take a 1201 01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:10.159 holiday, or you leave on time and all those things that you know, 1202 01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:14.479 we've made a part of our culture, perhaps working from from dust to dawn 1203 01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:16.680 and burning the midlight oil and all that kind of stuff. These are things 1204 01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:18.920 that we want to do away with. It's good to take break, good 1205 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:23.479 to take holidays, you know. So you've got to change the mindset. 1206 01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:26.680 You've got to change the verbiage. You've got to you've got to get the 1207 01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:30.319 momentum going. And as I said, little steps, little things that can 1208 01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:33.479 do her. Yeah, we're gonna take their music break heres, we're coming. 1209 01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:38.680 Oh shoot swiftly to the end of the show. It was amazingly how 1210 01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:42.399 much how quickly our show goes. Pedro You've got to shoot off, so 1211 01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:46.680 you've got a long drive ahead of you. Oh of course, yes, 1212 01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:50.079 yes, my wife has to do something, so I'm taking her down. 1213 01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:55.600 That's why we came down. Also, I came from talking point because of 1214 01:31:55.640 --> 01:31:59.840 course, of course are you leaving after the break? I'm leaving after the 1215 01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:02.439 I guess can I put you on the hot spot? Then? Before you 1216 01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:06.880 go? Was that? And to ask you, um, do you think 1217 01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:13.920 that self care changes for men? And Claire maybe you can talk to that 1218 01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:17.439 after. But do you think that the self care approach for a man differs 1219 01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:23.079 to that other woman? Of course? Yeah, yeah, because Claire Claire 1220 01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:26.279 made a point about it already, just in the fact that when a woman's 1221 01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:30.199 you know, menopause, I think justin women's bodies go through so much more 1222 01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:39.079 um things that men's bodies doesn't go through, um and in the self um 1223 01:32:39.319 --> 01:32:43.680 that makes it a little difficult for a male. Of self care is definitely 1224 01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:47.880 very important because if if I don't self care myself or take care of myself, 1225 01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:53.199 um, who's gonna help my Who's going to support my family? So 1226 01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:56.840 I have to think of self care as as something is almost being selfish. 1227 01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:00.640 You have to think of self care almost for myself, so that I can 1228 01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:03.600 make sure that I can provide for or do what I need to do for 1229 01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:08.960 my wife and kids and you know, and whoever else I'm dealing with UM 1230 01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:15.000 for myself personally. Self cares um an important part of life because if I 1231 01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:17.840 don't self care myself, then I can have a mental breakdown. I can 1232 01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:26.960 um become aggressive, I could become um just not a nice person. Because 1233 01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:30.359 that moment when you stay, the moment where you stay out the door or 1234 01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:33.119 stay sort of on the on the comc or whatever, on the on the 1235 01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:36.439 pavement. I said in my car, so I couldn't find the web. 1236 01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:41.119 Yeah, I said in my car before going into the house. Is that 1237 01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:44.560 the moment where if you don't do that, then it's a different you in 1238 01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:46.960 the house. Is that It's nothing, it's a different me. It's more 1239 01:33:47.079 --> 01:33:51.399 just that it it just because you got you got to see, like I 1240 01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:55.239 don't take work to I don't take work home and I don't take home to 1241 01:33:55.279 --> 01:34:00.279 work. So I break it up when I leave my house on page your 1242 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:04.319 work and when I come home on page your home. So because if I 1243 01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:08.880 bring in my work, like if I come in from work and my wife 1244 01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:10.640 will tell you this. If I come in from work and I'm like, 1245 01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:14.840 this happened, that happened, then I get my wife upset. Now both 1246 01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:18.520 of us are set, and then it's crazy to me sound because we're both 1247 01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:21.880 upset. Then we can have a stupid argument because we're both upset and not 1248 01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:25.640 even know what we're arguing about. And it was sitting there like, wait, 1249 01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:29.600 why are we arguing about? So like I come home and I think 1250 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:31.720 about whatever made me upset, or I think about whatever how my day went, 1251 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:34.920 and I let it go. I just literally tried to let it go. 1252 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:39.159 I don't always succeed in letting it go. Don't make that clear, 1253 01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:42.640 but I do try to let it go. And if I have an issue 1254 01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:45.720 at home, I don't take it to work because that work is not gonna 1255 01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:48.600 help me. Yeah, it's only gonna you know, because my job, 1256 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:54.079 I go into people's home, so I have to be polite. Well I'm 1257 01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:56.720 naturally I think I'm naturally polite, but I mean, you know, you 1258 01:34:56.840 --> 01:35:00.800 understand. I mean, like, I have to be courteous and respectful and 1259 01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:03.640 professional. So if I have these thoughts in my head what's happening at home, 1260 01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.800 and I go in there with this attitude that doesn't look good on the 1261 01:35:06.840 --> 01:35:12.199 company all myself. So I have to let that go and for the moment, 1262 01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:15.039 you know. So, I just think when you think of self care, 1263 01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:18.399 I think there is a little bit of selfishness involved when it comes to 1264 01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:25.279 men for me personally for me, because if you're gonna mess with my self 1265 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:30.000 care, then I don't have nothing to do with you, if that makes 1266 01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:32.039 sense, and I'm just being honest. If you if you're gonna mess with 1267 01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:35.479 my self care, then then you can step because you're not my friend and 1268 01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:40.119 I don't need you around because my self care is more important because if I 1269 01:35:40.119 --> 01:35:42.119 don't take it, like I said, if I don't take care of myself, 1270 01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:44.119 nobody else will not. Even my wife will take care of me the 1271 01:35:44.119 --> 01:35:48.079 way I can take care of myself. And my wife takes care of me 1272 01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:55.399 very well. By the way, she's in the other room. Actually she's 1273 01:35:55.439 --> 01:36:01.800 not in here, so I don't try get no brownie points. But that's 1274 01:36:02.039 --> 01:36:06.520 question because we were talking about that before and how age and stage and gender 1275 01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:13.119 and culture can effect um at one self care and just wanted your take on 1276 01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:15.760 every were you real quick? I'm sorry? Yeah, because you're right about 1277 01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:17.880 that, because now that I'm at this age, I'm almost fifty, it's 1278 01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:21.680 definitely different. When I was in my twenties, I didn't I selfcare flew 1279 01:36:21.720 --> 01:36:26.439 out the window. I just do what I did. I didn't care. 1280 01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:29.840 I just I just I was like I was like a race car doing one 1281 01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:33.000 hundred and twenty down down, down the straight away. You know. I 1282 01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:35.560 was just like, oh, so I'll be all right. Because you're young, 1283 01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:39.960 you think you're impervious, you think you're powerful, you think you're superman. 1284 01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:42.319 You're just like, oh, I can do it. I can know. 1285 01:36:42.399 --> 01:36:44.199 But now as you get older, you realize, oh, the body 1286 01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:46.039 don't work like that. So then you have to start thinking, Okay, 1287 01:36:46.039 --> 01:36:48.520 I need to take this slow, I need to do it. This is 1288 01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:54.800 different, I need to you know. So it does with age and experience 1289 01:36:55.279 --> 01:37:00.399 and maturity. The self care does change through the decks of your of your 1290 01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:03.479 life. And I guess there was that perception of what men are like as 1291 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:06.840 well. And you know, with you know the emotional side of things, 1292 01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:11.359 or you know, mental health, you know the strong man who can do 1293 01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:13.640 anything, and I think face them, there's all of those things that you 1294 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:16.119 kind of face with their stereotypes. Well, see, that's that's to me, 1295 01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:19.399 that's the stereotype. Because I told you before, I'm at that point 1296 01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:21.960 of my Hi, I just don't care. Yeah, yeah, And I 1297 01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:26.600 think as you get older, you you you see how like older you get 1298 01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:29.079 like older people, they just they just say whatever they feel. They don't 1299 01:37:29.079 --> 01:37:30.319 care how you take it. Yeah, And I'm at that point in my 1300 01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:34.640 life because i can't worry about what other people. I've learned over the years 1301 01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:38.199 that people are always going to talk about you. They always have something negative, 1302 01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:40.960 They're gonna have something positive. You could do ten things right, you 1303 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:43.199 could do nine things right. The one time you do one thing wrong, 1304 01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:45.479 that's all they focus on. So if you want to focus on that, 1305 01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:47.000 then guess what, keep on focusing. I'm gonna go do the other nine 1306 01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:49.760 things that I could do right, so you know, a nanks God for 1307 01:37:49.760 --> 01:37:53.560 forgiveness for the other one that I did wrong. So and then move on. 1308 01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:57.520 So I'm not gonna worry about you know, in that In that aspect, 1309 01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:00.039 I can't myself care. Like I said, I can't work. I 1310 01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:06.720 think people let other people opinion of themselves affect their self care. Yeah. 1311 01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:13.039 The mic okay, and on that note, I do apologize, but I 1312 01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:15.920 do have to take my wife before she doesn't before she just before she divorces 1313 01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:20.399 me. There, I don't have a wife anymore. On that, we'll 1314 01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:23.960 go to a quick music break. So we're gonna get to Hezekiah Walker. 1315 01:38:24.119 --> 01:38:28.600 Every praise, um, praise and worship definitely can be a self care practice. 1316 01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:31.800 Music is a great way of relaxing. So let's hear from Hezekiah. 1317 01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:45.840 Me here a worship where I want everybody around the roll and put your head 1318 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:56.239 together, praise be to God. Here me go, I go everywhere worship. 1319 01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:09.840 We want to call every free, every frings to gods, singing halle 1320 01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:19.159 do to our gods. Gry Hollylo is to our God, every free, 1321 01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:28.079 every free to our Gods. Y'all got it, now help us and give 1322 01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:38.119 it free. It's to our gods given where the worst one, every breath, 1323 01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:50.800 every breeds to our Gods. Everybody sing o Gods glory. Hollylue. 1324 01:39:53.239 --> 01:40:00.079 Isn't our gon say every praise to every friends. It's to our gone. 1325 01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:06.319 He'll no help me through it. Take it up in free. It's to 1326 01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:14.760 o Gone. Every word of worships water card. I'm gonna say, if 1327 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:21.920 it brings every break, it's t I gone. I want everybody all the 1328 01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:30.479 world to save my stu to our God, nor me holling noo, it's 1329 01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:36.880 you. I gone. If it preings, if it brings it to our 1330 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:47.880 God, let's take it out one time. Anybody, every word worship with 1331 01:40:48.079 --> 01:40:58.920 water card. If it brings every bring it's to our God. I don't 1332 01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:57.159 care. I can feel it enough saying everybody every plays he is he shake 1333 01:41:57.279 --> 01:42:23.840 him, he Kai walker every page, Yes he is. Yes, he 1334 01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:29.880 is someone to definitely be praised. So we are coming to oh, coming 1335 01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:32.119 to the end of our program today. It's been a great talking point. 1336 01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:35.720 We've had Claire with us from Nourish to saw Oh, and I love that 1337 01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:39.439 it's going to really I've got to really, I really love you know, 1338 01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:43.520 the naming behind that, the text that you quoted on that. So we've 1339 01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:45.960 been talking about self care, the importance of it, how it's gonna be 1340 01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:50.520 beneficial. Um. So I guess just as we're coming to the end, 1341 01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:55.760 I guess, really, Um, we've talked about the benefits of it and 1342 01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:58.760 some of the things that we can do, but the challenge, I know 1343 01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:00.840 for a lot of people, and then dinner, and I've spoken to that. 1344 01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:05.399 It's just the kind of how we can stay motivated or how we can 1345 01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:11.039 stick to those practices. You know, So what would you how would you 1346 01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:16.960 encourage somebody to make a start and be to try and maintain the self care 1347 01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:23.800 practices that we're encouraging people to do. Sure, so I would encourage you 1348 01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:28.279 to get in touch with why you want to do it. Sometimes there's this 1349 01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:30.600 notion that we lack motivation. I don't think that's ever the case. I 1350 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:34.279 think we don't understand why we're doing something. So why do you want to 1351 01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:38.640 look after yourself? Is it because you want to have more energy to run 1352 01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:41.720 after the kids, you want to be more productive at work, you want 1353 01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:45.359 to serve better check you know what is your why? Find your why? 1354 01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:49.640 And I think when it's really difficult, so say you want to do a 1355 01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:53.800 couch to five k because you want to be fitted. On those days where 1356 01:43:53.800 --> 01:43:56.920 it's raining like today and you don't want to get your trainers on, you're 1357 01:43:56.960 --> 01:44:00.600 not going to But if you have that sort of you can see yourself being 1358 01:44:00.720 --> 01:44:04.800 fitter, being stronger as a consequence of doing that action, You're more likely 1359 01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:09.960 to do it. So really connect into that and just start small, start 1360 01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:14.439 somewhere, even if it is you know, you put I'm going to use 1361 01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:16.600 character five ks an example, you put your trainers on and you go for 1362 01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:20.119 a five minute walk around the block and you're done. Do you know what? 1363 01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:25.720 You did something? Sometimes we can get so caught up in the thinking 1364 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:30.079 about doing stuff and not doing it that we just go around in circles. 1365 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:32.880 Actually, when we take action, we feel better in ours us. Even 1366 01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:36.479 if it is just like I say, those five minutes, we feel better 1367 01:44:36.960 --> 01:44:41.000 and then we kind of get momentum and go, oh, I enjoyed that. 1368 01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:45.840 I'm going to do it again. Yeah, I mean it's it's yeah, 1369 01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:49.760 I agree, agree with the whole idea of the why, and I 1370 01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:55.680 guess that then feeds into what then you hope to achieve after that as well? 1371 01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:58.560 You know, why do you want to do it? Where do I 1372 01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:03.119 want to get to? Sometimes if you've got an event or something to kind 1373 01:45:03.159 --> 01:45:08.159 of set your goal or your sights on or what have you can be something. 1374 01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:12.359 But I guess then when you've done that, how can you then stick 1375 01:45:12.399 --> 01:45:17.520 at something? You know? You know? So what research shows is it 1376 01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:21.359 takes twenty one days to sort of start getting a habit embedded, but sixty 1377 01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:26.359 three days to make it stick. And I think we all have habits good 1378 01:45:26.439 --> 01:45:29.600 or ones that service, ones that don't. But I think once we've got 1379 01:45:29.640 --> 01:45:32.479 it stuck, you know, Like I talked about my morning routine. To 1380 01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:36.760 somebody who doesn't do it morning morning routine, mine might seem quite oh my 1381 01:45:36.840 --> 01:45:40.239 word, how does she find time for all of that? But I know 1382 01:45:40.359 --> 01:45:45.640 when I don't do it, you know, I'm less productive, I don't 1383 01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:48.640 feel like my best I don't have as much energy. So for me, 1384 01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:53.800 like, I recognize how I feel when I do do it, and that 1385 01:45:54.199 --> 01:45:57.439 pushes me to keep going. And actually when I don't do it, I 1386 01:45:57.520 --> 01:46:00.439 feel odd now because I've been doing it so long. So I think when 1387 01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:02.520 you get to that point that it becomes so ingrained, when you don't do 1388 01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:08.239 it, it feels bizarre not doing it. Yeah. I think also as 1389 01:46:08.439 --> 01:46:11.159 we've we spoke a little bit about is you know, finding somebody who might 1390 01:46:11.159 --> 01:46:15.159 be able to help you along? Yeah, definitely, yeah. And I 1391 01:46:15.239 --> 01:46:17.239 mean obviously this is where we're going to segue into how people probaisly can get 1392 01:46:17.239 --> 01:46:20.479 in contact with you. They're interested in doing what you know doing working with 1393 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:23.880 you sort of things. So I mean, do you are there sort of 1394 01:46:23.960 --> 01:46:27.800 resources that you could suggest or you know, how can people reach you as 1395 01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:31.960 well in terms of so you can find me at nourished to saw dot co 1396 01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:38.840 dot uk and Instagram and Facebook at nourish Saw. I have a free guide 1397 01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:43.800 called beat the Burnout that looks at what burnout is and what you can do 1398 01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:47.239 to look after yourself and that can be found at nourished to saw dot co 1399 01:46:47.359 --> 01:46:57.319 dot uk forward slash f forward slash beat the Burnout. Yeah, burn is 1400 01:46:57.319 --> 01:46:59.439 one of those. Yeah, as we talked about. I think also what's 1401 01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:02.000 interesting and this could be a topic for another show. I'm sure it is 1402 01:47:02.039 --> 01:47:08.000 actually beating the burn out for working from home um, and that's a whole 1403 01:47:08.039 --> 01:47:12.720 another topic. But interestingly, I think people are because obviously post pandemic, 1404 01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:15.960 you know, people are still working from home. You're not getting a separation 1405 01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:19.680 from you know, your work life, your home life, definitely social life, 1406 01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:25.079 it all seems to merge into one unless you're really disciplined and really can 1407 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:29.399 differentiate and what have you. But also we're begging, we're begging for sorry, 1408 01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:41.319 we're begging for a part two as usual. Definitely really it's become part 1409 01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:45.560 of the process now. But we also really have to mention that that there 1410 01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:47.439 are some people who just don't know what self care is, and there's some 1411 01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:51.880 people who self harm or you know, they don't know how to care for 1412 01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:58.840 themselves. They don't know what the what the what self care looks like, 1413 01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:00.920 how to love them selves and all that kind of stuff. And I think 1414 01:48:01.039 --> 01:48:06.680 that begs unpacking as well, because we not definitely maybe preaching to the to 1415 01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:11.640 the to the choir of you know, to the congregation, but there's so 1416 01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:14.239 many people who don't know what it's like, don't know what it is, 1417 01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:19.159 and I'm also hurt themselves as opposed to care for themselves. And there is 1418 01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:23.560 a lot that we need to do to help people like that as well. 1419 01:48:23.600 --> 01:48:28.600 And maybe in a part two we can also speak to those types of situations. 1420 01:48:28.760 --> 01:48:32.279 And mental illness is you know, one of those things that really unravels 1421 01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:36.119 our self care. I know, for myself personally, when things are really 1422 01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:41.520 chaotic in my life and you know, I'm dealing and I'm caring for etc. 1423 01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:45.960 It really really just things unravel and self care is not evenly the priority 1424 01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:51.640 anymore. It's just surviving. So you know, we want to maybe someday 1425 01:48:51.720 --> 01:48:56.720 get you back on clear and talk to that. Definitely, I could definitely 1426 01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:00.880 share stories and talk stuff about that, And I find myself I agree like 1427 01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:03.520 when things get choostic, it does go out the window. But I also 1428 01:49:03.640 --> 01:49:06.760 find that when I am committed to doing it, I feel better and I 1429 01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:12.000 can cope with the chaos. But it is such a circular thing, you 1430 01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:15.119 know. Sometimes you can know it all and I know quite a lot, 1431 01:49:15.199 --> 01:49:17.760 and I still thought it can fall to the wayside, but it is just 1432 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:21.840 recognizing it actually does help you to be able to turn up to life in 1433 01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:25.760 a better way. So yeah, yeah, And interestingly, I think with 1434 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:29.800 the point was made before that sometimes self care there's the perception that we have 1435 01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:31.159 to do on us, do it all by ourselves, and we are quite 1436 01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:34.399 self the mind of that. Ultimately, we want to go to the source. 1437 01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:39.920 You know, God is our life giver. He is a person who 1438 01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:43.079 is caring for us, and I think the more that we can commune with 1439 01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:46.319 him, develop our relationship, you really work on our spiritual self care, 1440 01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:50.199 that in itself will have an amazing impact, hopefully on the rest of our 1441 01:49:50.239 --> 01:49:54.479 lives, because you know, He is the source. He's the one who 1442 01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:58.119 cares for us. You know he will help us sore as I said with 1443 01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:02.680 your with your text there. So I guess as we are coming to the 1444 01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:08.239 end, Sandy, would you mind praying for us and praying for our listeners 1445 01:50:08.279 --> 01:50:11.880 to kind of really sort of think about, you know, self care and 1446 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:15.960 how we can look after ourselves and not being an active worship to God as 1447 01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:21.479 well. So let's pray the Early Father. We thank you for bringing us 1448 01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:27.159 to this program and this very important topic of self care. We know that 1449 01:50:27.239 --> 01:50:31.039 you love us. We know that you've made us for a purpose, and 1450 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:35.039 for us to really fulfill that purpose, we really got to align ourselves with 1451 01:50:35.159 --> 01:50:40.840 your will and your way, and that is taking care of ourselves, looking 1452 01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:44.520 to you. For example, you rested, you took time out, you 1453 01:50:44.640 --> 01:50:47.239 communed with your father, and we need to follow those principles and give us 1454 01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:50.800 a strength to do so, give us the courage to do so, give 1455 01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:56.479 us the insight to do so. It because we want to be moral like 1456 01:50:56.680 --> 01:51:00.079 you everywhere. We want to fulfill our purpose, and ultimately we want to 1457 01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:03.960 bring others to your saving grace. Thank you for Claire empower her, bring 1458 01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:10.920 her ministry and company and the work that she does from strength and Strengthlis so 1459 01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:15.560 thankful that she joined us today and for both of us, for myself and 1460 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:19.359 for Angela. You know we are struggling, but you promised to be with 1461 01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:23.920 us for it with every step and you help, you help us, you 1462 01:51:24.159 --> 01:51:27.439 encourage us, you will keep us. And for all our listeners we ask 1463 01:51:27.520 --> 01:51:30.680 for you to do the same or pray that they've been blessed today in your 1464 01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:35.359 name. I pray amen, Amen Amen. So yes, thanks approaching that 1465 01:51:35.479 --> 01:51:39.560 seven o'clock our work, So Claire, when I thank you so much for 1466 01:51:39.640 --> 01:51:42.960 joining us today. It's been love you to meet you and hear you doing 1467 01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:47.319 and encouraging us, encouraging our listeners. You know, to practice self care, 1468 01:51:47.720 --> 01:51:53.319 to take that time to look after yourself and sort of think about why 1469 01:51:53.399 --> 01:51:56.279 we're doing it, you know, and the things that we can achieve and 1470 01:51:56.359 --> 01:52:00.319 how life can be so much better. So yep, Zenia said, we 1471 01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:02.439 will. We'd love to have you back on again for a part two. 1472 01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:09.600 So thank you so much and thank you to our listeners. Thank you for 1473 01:52:09.720 --> 01:52:15.760 joining us today. Do you stick with Advantage to Radio London. There is 1474 01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:19.439 programming over the weekend and we'll be back next week. And we're going to 1475 01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:29.199 end with Kat Franklin's I Smile, Yes, definitely a great song. Self 1476 01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:33.079 care can help us feel happier, segueing there as well. So as you 1477 01:52:33.159 --> 01:52:36.920 say good night, have a good evening, enjoy the rest of your weekend, 1478 01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:43.000 practice some self care and definitely hopefully that will bring a smile to your 1479 01:52:43.039 --> 01:52:45.600 face. Good night, and thank you for joining us at talking points as 1480 01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:55.479 good night for myself, ANGELA lovely good night everyone. We'll see you again. 1481 01:52:55.720 --> 01:53:12.000 I smile. I dedicate the soul tossion depression. Today's a looning, 1482 01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:19.000 but there is a sunshine, nothing but clowns, and it started in my 1483 01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:28.039 heart and it feels like a cold night. Today's I do day. Where 1484 01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:33.079 from my blue skies? Where is a love and the joy that you promised 1485 01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:38.600 me? Tell me all right, I'll be honest with you. I am 1486 01:53:39.079 --> 01:53:47.039 mostly a power that I can't splain. Sail from heaven like a shower. 1487 01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:54.000 When I think I's better, I'm gonna be when this is over. Even 1488 01:53:54.079 --> 01:54:00.520 though I see a smile is Faking's all fun either though I mean it. 1489 01:54:01.439 --> 01:54:08.560 What you do, I smile, come on, smile so I get it 1490 01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:14.720 down. Show would hate to see again down, cause people kill so much 1491 01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:24.800 that smile so sile never dan gonna. But it's student me today most days 1492 01:54:24.840 --> 01:54:31.960 a lot, but there is no sunshine, nothing but clounsing. It stuck 1493 01:54:32.119 --> 01:54:36.119 in my heart and it feels like a cold night. It ain't easy, 1494 01:54:36.239 --> 01:54:44.119 but to day's a tell me remember my blues light? Where is that love? 1495 01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:46.520 Y'all? There is a love and the joy that you promised me. 1496 01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:55.399 Tell me it's all right. The truth is almostly. I'm power and I 1497 01:54:55.800 --> 01:55:00.720 can't play. It goes power, y'all from that like a shower. Now, 1498 01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:06.319 I know we were hurt, child, but still come on, even 1499 01:55:06.439 --> 01:55:11.640 though I see I stile, and y'all feel that God is working, So 1500 01:55:11.800 --> 01:55:24.319 I fi even though I'm mean, it skills stiles down. Show would hate 1501 01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:36.600 to see again down because people feel so much that let's school me. Whoa, 1502 01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:44.760 Why can't you just smile for me? Whatever you're in right now? 1503 01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:57.600 Me smile? Can't you just shie? Me? And my people say? 1504 01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:15.079 Al mustadt say? And while you're waiting yea, And while you're praying, 1505 01:56:17.479 --> 01:56:30.640 look in the mirror always remember the almostand why I almost came. But it 1506 01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:40.840 goes power, y'allad hang down from hardships, difficult arts. This is what 1507 01:56:40.960 --> 01:56:48.840 I do. I see us whatever feels good. It's like all things are 1508 01:56:48.880 --> 01:57:00.439 working. It still style. I know it's hard right now to see you 1509 01:57:01.640 --> 01:57:16.560 because you're Willner uderstand you look better Dallas, New Orleans, Cleveland mustand when 1510 01:57:16.680 --> 01:57:36.800 you Detroit must. Feelers Jersey Hell. All the people say understanding just to 1511 01:57:36.920 --> 01:57:41.199 want you to be happy, and then you gotta have something to happen there. 1512 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:45.199 I want you to have joy because can't nobody take that tone you? 1513 01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:55.399 I see you smiling. 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