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fives away. Harry Wine Rocker Traffickers
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M. Roger. Area is thirty
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of r Okay Traffick approakeing head on
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There are a thousand UFO sightings reported
around the world every month. Ninety

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percent of these sightings can be explained, but ten percent cannot. Officially and

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unofficially, the US military has been
investigating UFOs since nineteen forty seven. They're

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secret goal is to mind out what's
behind these unexplained sightings. The Pentagon classifies

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them as unusual airborne anomalies, but
a better term is X files. Join

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us now as Mac Won one and
Commander Cobra explore these unsolved cases. You

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have all incidents that baffle even the
US military. This is macmloney's Military X

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files and now here's macmloney. Wel
good evening, and welcome to mccloney's milit

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Tracks on our show here on the
Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac

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maloney. Wow, what a show
we have for you tonight. At first,

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let's introduce the members of the posse
girls. Get ready, see it

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yourselves down, get your clean as, your wife's, your fan, and

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your squeegee and your lubin whatever else
you need because you see the very famous

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one one. Hey baby, Hey
Mac, how are you? Hey?

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Everyone that up, all ships at
sea, Welcome to the show. I'm

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glad to be here, glad to
be anywhere as a matter of fact.

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And I know it's going to be
a really good show. M h it's

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uh yeah, it's gonna be fun
and I can't wait to get on with

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it. Get on with it,
Okay, that's what kind of that's get

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it on? Is that a British
term? Get on? But so is?

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Yeah, let's uh it kind of
is. It's if you had to

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get to it, get to it? When to leave you to it?

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It sounds my fish. Have you
had fish and chips lately? You know?

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I haven't had fish and chips for
two weeks? Two weeks? Wow?

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Huh yeah, only because my wife's
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I don't want to like eat this
humongous piece of fish in front of her.

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But she's like, I could do
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know, I just you know,
they still come wrapped in the so I

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just kind of like backed off a
little bit on it. Yeah, okay,

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yeah, it is good for you
with all that fatty substance fish.

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That's just good. All right.
Already were having a cat issue on the

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shelf, which we don't want to
have any of. Didn't the memo go

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out? I didn't get no cats. What the cat loves the rubber bearing

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there, sweet kitty, No Coco
tonight, I'll shave in the world.

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But on National corresponded Switch Blades,
Steve Ward is with us, switching.

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Great to be here tonight. He
is beardless. He shaved his beard his

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you know, his designer said,
shaved. The is still there, but

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sash is still there. I was
trimming my beard. It went to the

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trim went all wrong, so I
had to shave it all off. Why

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don't you have people do that for
you? You can afford it. Get

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a stylist working on the well.
I was, you know, it was

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under pressure. I had to get
it done quickly, couldn't make an appointment.

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Okay, we understand it might be
trimmed. Also with us is a

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security chief. Willie Club WC.
How you doing? You know, Mac,

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I'm doing really excellent today. Thank
you, and it's good to see

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everyone tonight. And I'm glad that
the switch. He explained what happened with

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his beard. Because I looked at
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I want to know the old expression, you know, is that your

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face your pants fall down? Wait
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oh man. Three minutes into the
show, here we go. Wow,

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yes, yeah, okay, even
though while the Pats are like off to

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the worst thought ever, it's okay. Wait, were used to loses lately.

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Oh wow, this is what this
is what Locer Nation it was like

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and sounds like Red Sox just pathetic
man and the Yankees them battling each other

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and a pair of day night doublehead
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ridiculous. No one there. Imagine
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game at the end of September.
What's the deal? They could sell the

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ticket for a dollar? Trying to
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aftermarket or something. I don't doubt
it. There was something like five thousand

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people did rain And anyway, let's
see also joining us. Oh, I

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was gonna say the time about miserable
is in the house with us? Is

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Ufail McKinny hour now though, Hello
Mack, Hello everybody. What's happening slash

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get away driving? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, nothing. You tell them

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what happened at the Patriots game?
Yeah? You know, some guy get

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murdered at the Patriots game. Do
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it a murder, was an accident. Well, they were in a fight

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and the guy hit him and knocked
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know had a hot attack. They
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I said, see this guy has
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they saved in the five min say'd
done another guy who was having a hot

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attack, and he pulled through.
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Pats. It looks like, you
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and two really shitty performances on the
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old days and when they were playing
Monday night games and they used to have

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to get the BC and BU football
players as usher is to try to keep

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the corn yea from killing each other. Yeah. Yeah, and they didn't

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do a good job some nights.
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night that they confiscated forty three handguns. This is a long time ago Shafer

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Stadium. It was Shafer, Okay, it was just a rowdy, nutty

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crown. Then the Pats got bad
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least twenty years they were went on
until you know, they had the kind

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of craft one thing. Anyway,
you're listening to mcloney sports here. Also,

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let us uh not screw up our
intro, our favorite in our favorite

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good witch up there and sideways in
the uh it's Raven, Raven? How

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are you tonight? Raven? Hello? My friends are doing great things for

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having me? Is this a new
kid doing? What's the look? Can't

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tonight? No? I have little
what they call space buns in, but

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it's really hard to see space.
So I like Little Princess lay a Bunsen

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because it's a whole thing. It's
a whole thing. Space bunds not a

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bad name. Switching the second,
switching the space helped me. Obi Wan,

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you our only hope. Anyway,
Look, another cat has entered the

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scene. I want to say,
speaking of obi Wan, but there is

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actually no oh oh man with the
freaking cut our mystery guests an you had,

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yeah, you had the sports section, so now it's cats section.

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Oh my god? Is uh Lonely
Marius joining us? Double? Allow?

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How you doing? I'm doing well? And if anybody's looking for a stylist,

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as we were talking about before,
I'll happily introduce you to mine as

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you can. As you can see, I am having a good hair day.

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Yeah, as you can see that
isn't every day a good he had

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day for you? Because you're bald? What's that? Wow? How do

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you? How do you miss that? Isn't every day a good hair day?

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Feel? Because you're bald? You
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So get that, you know?
Can you put the cat aside? Please?

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I can't help it if I'm a
magnet macilright, plus your daughter freaking

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bridge get in line? Really?
Oh my god? Anyway, Well,

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we have to kill some time tonight, so we have a top ten top

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ten that Lonely Larry himself is going
to read. It's Top ten reasons why

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Lonely Larry lonely. Top ten reasons
why Lonely Larry hates Halloween. Okay,

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top ten reasons why Lonely Larry hates
Halloween. I guess we should stop the

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music and lorry himself please. Number
ten, Mari, I thought we already

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did this last year. Oh my
goodness, yes, good, pretend we

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didn't. I'm looking for what I
was told not to look at this in

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advance, and now I am.
You should see this. Emailed this to

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me. I saw it pop in
and now it's gone. I emailed it

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to you. Well where is it? It's like there, sir, it's

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got to read it. It's gonna
read his own Top ten. I'm gonna

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look. But first of all,
I have a question, who's the black

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private dick that's a sex machine to
all the chicks? Shaft? Damn right,

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Okay, I got a ten this
already. This is into the three

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figures editing. I'm gonna go to
It must be those kids against screwing around

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with you had cell phone trying to
find all mail. But yeah, there

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it is. I don't know what
happened. This is okay, here we

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go, all right now Okay,
this is this is top ten reasons why

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Lonely Larry hates Halloween. Lonely Larry
is Raven's father. I got you ready,

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stop the music. Number ten Larry
in his world which which is rhymes

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with bitches, and he thinks there's
enough bitches around without having a special day

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for them. Amen to that.
Number nine. When he opens the door

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for trick or treaters, they give
him an aphole with the razor in it.

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It's happened. Number eight always has
anxiety attacks around Halloween, thinking someone's

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going to dig up the quote unquote
old garden out back. You know,

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you wouldn't belief how stuff grows in
the old garden. Yeah, yeah,

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okay, let's see number seven.
He once went out dressed as a big

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He once went out dressed as a
big hedge clipper, and no one got

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the joke. It's a very good
inside, very inside that's a very inside

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joke. I don't even know if
Raven knows that one. I have absolutely

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no idea. Oh, I'll have
to tell you that it's a good one.

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Er. Number five, he's allergic
to eggs. Okay, I guess

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there's a there's a throwaway in everything. Number four He once went out dressed

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as peppermin Patty and no one got
that joke either. It's all true.

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Yeah. Top ten sasons why Larry
hates Halloween. Okay, what do we

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here? We're down to three.
He can hardly keep his kids off his

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lawn as it is. We read
that way a second read what's what's that?

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They read that one again? Place. Yeah, we can hardly keep

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the kids off as long as it
is, thank you, okay, which

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is a problem because I'm frequently out
there peeing on it. That's like not

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even a joke, it is.
Nope, go ahead, I'll give it

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ten minutes and I'm doing it again. Number two. Uh, insert appropriate

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X lax joke here, and the
number one reason okay, oh I was

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supposed to Paul yeah Claus for effects
that Okay, we'll do that again a

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number two. Insert appropriate X lax
joke here. Come on, no one

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got X lacks as a kid when
you're a trick or treating. Never I

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was waiting to get all the drugs
and nobody ever gave me. Oh we

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always did. Yeah, I mean
there's always We used to put him in

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the in the different brownies and stuff. Really. Oh, chunking the chocolate

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chips. Yeah, that's very substitute
amous chocolate chips in the muffins. Okay,

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yow Yeah. Number one reason only
Larry hate Halloween? Seriously, would

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you take candy from someone like me? All right, let's clap farm because

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he didn't completely screw it up?
Wow, huh. Nobody really knows the

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reason I hate Halloween. You probably
don't want to get into it. I

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didn't want to bring it up.
But we're doing a Halloween show in a

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few weeks and maybe we'll have you
on. Just tell that story. But

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I think it had scoted you for
We'll just tell him the story. Tell

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him now, you you went out, you were looking forward to Halloween all

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year. He went out, geting
years old. I was looking forward to

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Halloween. I went out with my
brother and sister, treated for hours ahead,

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and I had like eighty pounds of
candy in my bag. And we

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were around the corner from home and
these three older kids rode it up on

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bikes. One of them grabbed my
bag and rode off into the Nike.

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Wow, craustion. Yeah, did
you look for him like, oh,

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Jay's looking for the killings? Did
you look for him, look for him.

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They speed off in the dark on
bikes. Were you gonna do chase

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him? Chase? How old were
you? Seven? You get your bike

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and chase? Yeah? It was
because it was completely around on the other

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side of the block, Captain hindsight
here, he should have gone home,

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got your bike, gotten a tube, sock, filled it with bars of

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soap, Leo Johnson style, down
where they lived, and living hell out

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of them. Actually, my sister, my older sister, did give chase.

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He was a rough bitch, that
one. When he hello Sis,

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she was eleven, all right,
she was. She would she would have

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killed this kid if she caught him. But you gonna say she definitely would

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would have been the only one I
could imagine would have actually stood up for

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you. Is that a homosexual joke? No, listen, because you don't

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know when you're referring, what are
you dragging that in? Well, listen,

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now we know and you know that
you're Scott. You're a Scott's a

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life sense. So you just wallowed
in self pity and didn't call the cops

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or anything. No, okay,
good, good plan. Cops gonna do?

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I don't know, look for the
thugs. No, anyway. So

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well, let me say you never
went out trick or treating again. I

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did, but with no enthusiasm whatsoever. Huh wow, you know what kind

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of a like kind of a job
after that? I think you missed one

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of the top ten reasons. Then, dude, did you tell the one

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about why you don't need almond joys? I don't remember that one. Don't

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eat almond enjoys. I like almon
joy I go back, go back to

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the list, look around number seven
or some figures up. Mac. It's

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gonna take on another thirty minutes to
find the email. What are you doing?

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Keep the music? Number seven?
He once went out dressed as a

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big hedge clipper, but no one. Okay, what's the one before that?

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Always always is in Wait a minute, Oh yeah, his anxiety attacks

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around Halloween, thinking someone's going to
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out back. How about the one
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When he opens the door for trick
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with a razor in it. Okay, is that number nine? That's number

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nine? All right? What's number
one? We're going for the what's number

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six? What's number six? No? It's a oh inful. Well wait

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a minute, I'm missed one.
See then I missed one. Can you

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place this in sure? Number six? He he refuses to eat almond joys

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because there's no joy in life,
So what's the point. That's the best

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one. I'm sorry. That's why
we went back from favorite thing you've ever

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put on the top ten ever?
Was so brand I like amon joyce.

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It's funny, I'm enjoy It was
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buy one when everything else was a
nickel way back when, so my grandfather

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tells me, but you shared it
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ba same thing. Each piece had
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and then they saw one that just
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Yeah yeah, I likentas when they
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over the coconut. Yum, Oh
my god, so good. I was

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run for the almonds though. So
anyway, sometimes you feel like and not

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sometimes you don't. Thank you.
You should copyright that. Why don't we

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do this real quick? Why don't
you take a quick breakdown at lonely Larry?

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Can you stay with us? I
do have to go bowling. I

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am late for my pool match as
it is. Okay, okay, all

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right, well then we'll see,
say a chat, we'll see we'll say

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it due now then okay, that's
French, all right, really going bowling?

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No, No, I'm shooting pool, shooting pool. I'm the world's

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worst bowler. Huh yeah, huh. And it's just a place that we

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occasionally donate beer to. Actually,
we are playing at American Legion Post eighty

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two tonight. Yes, okay,
well tell them what we all said.

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Hey, all right, all right, don't check them for their service.

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Yes, all right, thank you, Larry, We appreciate it. Why

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don't we take a wish back now, right back, thank you, good

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night, good night. Listening to
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It's Game of Thrones meets top Gun
in Wingmen twenty two. War of Dragons

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by mcmloney on sale now on Amazon. Welcome back everyone to macloney milit tracks

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show on the Distant Thunder vidiotwork.
This is Mac maloney. Well what a

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show. As you can tell,
we're bringing it to you tonight. First,

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let me introduced the plus you real
quick, Well, I want to

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see girls across the bottle girls from
Mac. Yeah, wow, good to

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see it. I'm just cracking up
at the stash. Club has the minute

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before. If he was over here
in the UK, he'd be under arrest.

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Okay, something to look forward.
Also with us is switch Blade Steve

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woodour National cons Fund. It says
it's great to be here tonight down there

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in now West Virginia. Right,
that's right. And also with us is

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oh Al Ronaldo, you with a
mechanic in the house, Oh, Mac

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and everyone else. Also Club our
security chief is here. Hey Mac,

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my gang. You know it's going
to be a big night. Now.

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We got the top ten out of
the way already. Wow, we can

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move on. Jake's okay, all
right, that hurts, but I'm not

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going to show it. Also joining
us letting up the evening, he's Raven

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up there in the sideways. Yeah, Raven, how are you? Hello?

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My friends? Thank you so much
for having me. I'm doing great

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now. Your father was on the
previous segment on the embarrassment meter from one

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to ten, tell us, I
mean he said that he was a y

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magnet. I'm never going to get
over that pin sp and he didn't mean

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yoururine either. Yeah and interesting.
Okay, well yeah, okay, he's

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the king of random inappropriate behavior.
I think that would be a medal.

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Yes, well you can tell it
wasn't scripted. No no, no,

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no no no, we'd still be
normally the show is scripted. But he

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went very off. Yeah he was. He went off the reservation from far.

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So many awful stories I can tell
you about just inappropriate things that have

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happened. Well, I was like
younger and more embarrassed. Really, yes,

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that I see. He seems like
a fun dad. His moments.

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I wentz went two a long time
ago, went over his house at dinner.

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I've told this, sorry, And
we had just played cards and he

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said, come over to the house
at dinner. So who's it was?

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Himself and your mother, Raven,
I'm assuming, and maybe her mother so

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his mother and Laura on that side. Maybe no kids, no kids,

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he didn't have any kids yet.
Oh okay, so this, yeah,

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that would have about my mom.
Yeah. So we sit down at dinner

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and his you know your mother puts
a big bowl of salad in front of

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him and says, Larry, you
have to eat your salad. I haven't

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beginning of meatballs or something is great. So he goes on a want and

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she says, Larry, you know, you have to eat your salad.

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So he takes his two hands and
he goes into the salad bowl and just

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take with two fishfuls of lettuce and
eats it at the table with no fork

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and no company, no nothing,
you know, And I'm just like tracks

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stunned. I was going, well, I'm not. Yeah, and at

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that point you're you're horrified, and
you're like, well, what the hell

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do I do now? Yeah,
no salad for me. Okay, I'm

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trying to get off salad with this. Two grubby hands have already been in

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there, but for him to do
it with itian dressing anyway, So he

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was inappropriate way back when then too. Anyway, lonely Larry, thanks each

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category we're talking about here, teens, fifties, fifties, Yeah, yeah,

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no, he was like seventy years
old when he was twenty. Yeah,

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yeah, absolutely, and then it's
just gone control ever since then.

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Yep, he was kicking kids off
his lawn when he was a kid himself.

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Anyway. Yeah, see, I
can't throw stones at that because that's

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me. I never wanted to play
with the other kids. So they'd come

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over to my house. I'd be
like, please go away, and I

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would kick them off my lawn.
Wow, okay, you learned early.

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Interesting. All right, listen,
speaking about interesting, what are you drinking

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tonight, Raven my coals? I
let me think. I think I'm down

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to thirteen cases. So that has
the last night all right until March lucky.

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So this is going to be a
continued saga. Guys. Okay,

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all right, this is this is
a big deal. I got this has

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the last me until March. March
okay, so we're already talking about octod

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So that's five months match first,
uh March like twenty twenty fifth, that's

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typically when it comes out, almost
six months. Well, good luck,

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be impossible. She can't she deliver
close? Well one will knowl you so

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if you don't. But look,
speaking of what you're drinking, we had

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a contest recently, and what the
contest was you were drinking an odd drink

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one night, and so we had
a prize to giveaway, which was a

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mash up game of Scrabble and Monopoly. It's called the Scrabble Monopoly mash up.

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It's a combination of those two you
know, vintage games. It's worth

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about eighty bucks from my friend Philolbeins
and Winning Moves games. So we asked

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the audience for a couple of weeks
what was that mysterious drink that you were

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drinking that night, Raven? And
we got a lot of respondents. We

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put their names into the Magic Fishball, and tonight we're going to pick out

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the winner. Now I know,
I'm gonna note from the front off saying

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that so many people respond to were
actually giving away four prizes. The first

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prize will be the game, but
the two, three and four they're going

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to win. Get this a autograph? Random book from mcmloney. How about

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that? Excellent? That's right there, even I don't know. One of

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the best sellers. It is Thank
You Club. So why don't we get

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to the magic Fishball, Raven?
You have it in front of you.

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I hope we do. I have
a little message here that you sent me.

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It looks like the fish ball was
actually hacked. It was hacked again,

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right yep again? Can't him can't
help it? Those Russians? Ye,

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So as the names come out,
you know, number four, three

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and two we'll get a macloney book, and then number one we'll get the

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mashup of Scrabble and Monopoly, worth
eighty bucks. It's a nice game,

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and I'd like to really learn how
to play. It seemed like we'd take

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a long time, but you don't
never know. So anyway, why don't

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we start the music raven And even
though the magic fishball has been hacked,

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let's press food anyway? Please?
All right, so the first winner of

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a random mac book. This is
a random mac maloney book, not a

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random MacBook, you know. I
just read it out loud and I was

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like, let's uh, that is
Cherry HOI. Let's please clap for sharing.

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Actually a long time, great job. Cherry switches in coping switch floor

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frozen that no, there is okay
and he came to life. Okay.

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Next, where we have a address
or well that's the thing as they all

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have. Yeah, actually I have
heard address right here. It's five thirty

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seven First Street, and that is
in San Diego, California, some people

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visiting water address that was made up? Okay, Oh, okay, that's

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not it. Okay, al right, next please wow, Next we have

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oh I lost my place already okay. Second winner of a random mac maloney

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book is Jeff Lightner. Jeff Lightner, Okay, all right, Lightning.

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That's a last name. That's a
good thing. Switch isn't clapping. Switch

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is not clapping. I want to
put him on report. Next, please

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Rick, let it be noted.
Switches not clapping. The third winner,

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we have Sir Edmund Prickley, the
third hedgehog on the right. One one's

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backyard, Old Hampshire, UK.
Okay, all right, yeah, I'm

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the guy I'm like. Okay,
okay, mister Prickley, get it because

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he's a hedgehog. Mister Prickley the
hedgehog. Next, please right? Switch

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is still not though? That was
okay. The real third winner of a

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random macalone book is Robert Demiko.
Good job, Robert. Not switches clapping?

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Which finally started clapping? And I'm
not frozen and we like frozen?

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And is this the number one winner? This is the one of the big

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prize winner. This is the grand
prize winner. Okay. The scrubble monopoly

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mashup, we have Ruben Valdez.
Here's the thing, everyone that don't want

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tonight. You have to send me
your mailing address, your real mailing address,

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because it's funny you ask people for
their address and they send you your

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email address. But you know you
can't mail the stuff out until we have

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your mailing address. So all the
winners tonight, please get in touch.

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Go to macaloney dot com and hit
the contact button and let us know your

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address and well me your prizes out
to you. So who everyone was wondering,

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Yes, did you have something?
Yes? Please club say they mail

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it? Why don't you have them
come to you to you to pick it

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up? So this way we know
you know who they are. Okay,

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all right, well do you think
someone like their government ID? And then

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you could take it, you know, the selfies and stuff. Okay,

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if some woman wants to come from
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book, that's fine with me.
It wouldn't be the freaking deal. It

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wouldn't be the first time that a
fan has dropped into the studio that we

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weren't expecting. But that is definitely
exactly Addresses will not be shared. That

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was a joke. It's just for
the lulls. So okay, we got

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and so so that night, Raven, what were you drinking? Everyone wants

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to know. M hm. So
that night I was drinking what I so,

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I don't even know if this is
a real drink. This is something

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I found online, but they called
it the Baywatch, and it's I don't

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know how to do real measurements,
so I just do like two tablespoons of

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rum, two table spoons of cranberry
juice, and then I feel like the

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rest. I just kind of eyeball
it with orange juice and it makes this

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really nice pink drink. It's super
refreshing. You can put cherries in that

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bitch, like an orange slice,
like a pineapple slice ice, and it's

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very very light and fruity, and
it was perfect for summer. I don't

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know if that's a real thing,
but it was fantastic. It sounds Baywatching,

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very big watch. Yes, and
it's only like three ingredients, so

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it's you know, I just buy
the cheap ram and there we go.

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Sue would drink that down in the
Chiffly Sue, yeah, if she could

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afford it. Now, listen,
have you ever heard of Irish hand grenade?

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Yeah? Irish car bomb? We
have to drop the Irish car bomb.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I can't do that. I don't

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like chugging things. They put it's
three layers of booze, and when you

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look at it, it's it's three
different layers of booze. And then when

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00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,200
I was there, that guy had
a bottle of Pepman schnops. He says,

406
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,960
let me put some shrap on on
top of it. Oh no,

407
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,880
wow, yeah, oh no,
bad, very bad. In my day,

408
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,200
we grew up drinking four locos that
we would pay someone that was over

409
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,160
the age of twenty one to get
us from the gas station ahead. We

410
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,720
would have two and we would be
like really not well, what point,

411
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,599
It's okay? We would still keep
going. What what were they? Yeah?

412
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,079
What what will? Local? Was
driving? Oh? No, one,

413
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,279
we just stayed where we were.
What kind of beer was that?

414
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:28,319
What kind of booze were you buy? So it's a four loco. I

415
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,480
don't know if they have them in
Massachusetts, but they have them in New

416
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:37,039
York. And it was basically like
a malt beverage that was like, I

417
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,960
don't know, probably nineteen percent of
the usually twenty percent. Now they saw

418
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:49,079
at a gas station. Yeah serious, yeah yeah, yeah, Schlitz liquor

419
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,160
or half a riffer private stock,
ye stuff, that kind of stuff,

420
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,079
but like this is like like you
can have a Schlitz and like it's you

421
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,599
know, it's tolerable. Like you
put like some orange juice in in a

422
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Schlitz and you're like good, these
were just nasty each You were only drinking

423
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,519
them that you could like get drug
really fast and then have a good time.

424
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
What other reason to drink them?
As it turns out, well,

425
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,440
listen, yeah, yeah, I
mean schlitz. It was funny when we

426
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:15,000
were kids, don't the way talking
about booze? Right, So when we

427
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:19,440
were kids, were young teenagers,
and the people that we would get to

428
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:23,039
buy for us always got Schlitz,
all right, And so when you're thirteen

429
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,320
years old, you're not going to
complain what kind of be are they buy

430
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,760
for you? Right, So it's
always Schlitz, always Schlitz. And then

431
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,679
somewhere somewhere, we're around fifteen or
so, suddenly it turned to Milla.

432
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,360
Everyone's drinking Miller all of a suddenly, I swear they put in that our

433
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,239
minds or something, you know,
they brainwashed, dosn't those? And I

434
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,599
never looked back. Man. I
had a Schlitz probably I don't know,

435
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,320
ten years ago, and it was
awful. It was just really bad.

436
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,920
I can't believe I used to drink
that stuff Schlitz at that. I don't

437
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,920
know this place is still around and
this is not an advertisement. But if

438
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,360
this, if this location wants to
advertise for us, I think okay with

439
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,199
it was the heart Attack Grill in
Las Vegas. Yes, they sell slits

440
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,159
there and they put it in a
paper bag for you, so you have

441
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:15,039
what is it you your hospital gown
on splits in your paper can, your

442
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:21,480
paper bag in the can, and
then you get like whatever everything. It's

443
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:27,159
a really problematic place, but it's
fun. It's a fun place, and

444
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,039
it's like Jim McKee, but I
like that. I already told my slitch

445
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:34,239
story where I was back in the
old days when you had to put your

446
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,519
tape deck install it in your car. My buddy said, okay, you

447
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,320
get some beer and we'll put in
your your tape deck, and so they

448
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,679
sent me off. I had no
idea what to buy them. I bought

449
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,480
Schlitz. When I brought it back, they all grown and said, what

450
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,920
that horsepiss? What's I you know? I just if I know, and

451
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,320
I would have got the miller or
something. Yeah, I figure slitz rhymes

452
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:06,039
with no. Actually we grove.
We bought favorite. I never had sut

453
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:08,159
like, so that was the least. Yeah, it was heavier. It

454
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,239
was something more like the half in
refer buzzy. Yeah, it was higher

455
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,840
octane. So ye. Anyway,
speaking of booze, uh switchy. What

456
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,480
did you have a breakfast this morning? Yeah, slits, I had a

457
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:29,840
really late breakfast. I went to
Tutors Biscuit World and I had the the

458
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:37,119
country breakfast with eggs over easy,
potatoes and bacon, nice and a biscuit.

459
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:42,880
Okay, potatoes like hash Browns or
Home Funnel you know the uh like

460
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:49,639
home Prize? Yes, twelve bucks? Uh? No, more like ten

461
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,880
ten? Okay? Oh wow,
okay you're down there West Virginia. Do

462
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,199
you leave a tip? You don't
leave a tip, Dan, you can't

463
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,119
leave a tip. No, no
tip cups, nothing. Now if you

464
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,719
tried to leave of a tip,
would it cause like a whole rockets?

465
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:07,480
Do you think it might? I
mean they probably have a policy there where

466
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:12,480
they don't you know accept chips have
seen anybody do it? So I what

467
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:17,559
if what if the front like lady
or a person I should say that checked

468
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:22,880
you out? That rang up your
your What if you left and they were

469
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,039
outside like having a break, maybe
having like a little smoke, and you

470
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,599
like passed on like a twenty no
one whatever. No, right, yeah,

471
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:34,199
but then they might just buy more
cigarettes with it. Oh yeah,

472
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,159
exactly, that's what you do with
that. Okay. Anyway, Club,

473
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,440
you have a small report for us, not a small it's it's what I

474
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:50,440
call a quality report. Okay,
but when we obligated to do. My

475
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:54,199
friend Switchie, he does a lot
of quality reports. Right you'd let me

476
00:37:55,559 --> 00:38:02,519
let me put your bumper in right
here, reporting the latest in the US

477
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:09,079
military's new investigation into UFOs and what
they still aren't telling you. It's time

478
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:17,400
for the club reports. Club what
he hafers, Well, tonight, I'm

479
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,400
getting away from the subject of asteroids. I think people are, you know,

480
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,119
are getting a little nervous about that
whole subject. So I want to

481
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:32,119
be more in a positive note,
I guess, So tonight I'm gonna talk

482
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:38,960
about what happened last week. NASA
named a what they call a Chief of

483
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:51,760
UAP previously known as UFO Research,
and NASA has been under some pressure,

484
00:38:51,960 --> 00:39:00,159
particularly by Congress, to get more
involved in the whole UAP situation, and

485
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,440
so what they've done now is to
become more transparent. They've actually set up

486
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:15,360
a unit there that they called the
UAP Research Unit now that was recommended by

487
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:22,440
an independent study by the NASA,
had put together by a group of outside

488
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:27,800
physicists and so on, because of
the pressure to play a more prominent role

489
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:37,760
in understanding UAPs. And after that, I saw yesterday they actually announced who

490
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:45,679
the director, the new director of
this UAP research team is, and his

491
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:52,320
name is Mark McInerney, and he's
been a NASA for a number of years.

492
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,880
I think it goes back about twenty
five years or so, but he's

493
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:05,679
he was previously the the NASA's liaison
to the Department of Defense, covering limited

494
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,079
UAP activities for the agency, and
he also served at various positions at NASA,

495
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:15,280
so it got its base in and
so he's not really what you call

496
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,760
a political appointment. So I feel
really good about that that they're not bringing

497
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,159
in some son of a senator or
a congressman, you know, they're actually

498
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:30,239
bringing in someone from inside the company, you might say. And I think

499
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,880
it's a good sign for us that
they're doing this. Hopefully it's not just

500
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:39,400
for show. But I think that
you know, from what I'm hearing,

501
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,920
that this is going to be something
that's good that should help produce some results

502
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:53,639
in so anyways, one of the
things is is that he's going to develop

503
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,880
a group there that you know,
they do this UAP research, but they

504
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:06,440
also you know, which helps you
know, bringing NASA's expertise to work with

505
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:12,320
the other agencies. So they haven't
identified who the agencies are yet, but

506
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,920
the whole idea is that they're going
to get together and they'll analyze and apply

507
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:28,079
actually going to use AI tools,
artificial intelligence powered tools in this new research.

508
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:34,880
And the thing is that the work
will be they say, transparent,

509
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:42,039
quote unquote for the benefit of humanity. Now, the thing is they won't

510
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:47,639
be going back to previous sightings or
anything. This is going to be all

511
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:55,679
new sightings that come up that they'll
be analyzing. So they'll this will be

512
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,079
all, you know, going down
a different road. I got a question

513
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:05,039
for you. Yeah, And the
data that they're going to collect or collate,

514
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,800
it's not just going to be military
sightings. Didn't they say they're going

515
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:15,960
to consider you know, people's sightings, the regular Joe schmos who are out

516
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,440
there and not drunk higher, you
know, or anything that they're reporting something

517
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,239
that they seem that they feel legit
they're going to take. That's a good

518
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:30,400
point. Absolutely, this is going
to cover all kinds of sources as far

519
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:36,000
as you know, the sightings are
concerned. Now, I do have a

520
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:43,719
little concern that you know that it's
hopefully it's just looking at sightings of UAPs.

521
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,639
But I'm always suspicious when they bring
someone in in another area that was

522
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:55,400
involved in another subject, and he
was part of the the group over there

523
00:42:55,519 --> 00:43:02,360
that also was into ask steroids,
so there's always seems to be some connection.

524
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,559
But hopefully this is over at the
JPL, you know, And so

525
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,159
anyways, it's interesting that he's coming
in there with that kind of background.

526
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:20,920
So I'll have to wait and see
if they expand that. But the other

527
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:27,159
thing is, you know, we
have this as you know last year there

528
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,840
was the d D had set up
a new unit also, which was the

529
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,320
EB one Object Identification and Management Synchronization
Process. Yes, I should have just

530
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,760
given you the acronym, but anyways, that seems to be kind of competing

531
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:52,679
now because that was sort of the
charge of that group, and it doesn't

532
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:58,800
like I said, it doesn't identify
yet what agencies. You know, this

533
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:02,760
new u A P research group we're
working with, so you know, maybe

534
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,159
they'll get involved with them. But
to me, it sounds like we'll covering

535
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,719
pretty much the same thing. But
it's it is the DoD versus NASA,

536
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,000
So maybe it's going to lead to
more cooperation. I hope probably not.

537
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,039
I mean, and nothing you need
more than a rival trying to get the

538
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,679
same money juggling for you know,
if you're in a government program or whatever.

539
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:31,599
But I think I think that that
NASA having it, I think people

540
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,960
feel I shouldn't say that. I
mean, do you do you trust NASA

541
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:40,239
any more than you trust the US
military? I do? I do.

542
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,840
They're scientists, they're more scientists than
anything. They're a little more independent on

543
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,519
certain things. But I trust them
more because they have more expertise. You

544
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,159
know, they have all the physicists
and the scientists and all those folks.

545
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,239
Yeah, with the d D is
a little bit different, and the d

546
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:05,639
DS for focus there's really more on
national security from a different angle. Yeah.

547
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,679
Yeah, and they sort of incorporated
now this whole thing with UAPs.

548
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,599
But yeah, I answer your question, I definitely have more Yeah, I

549
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:22,559
feel stronger about the NASA connection here
right. The thing, I'm sorry I

550
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:25,000
was gonna say, but every time
there is some kind of an announcement,

551
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,679
and usually it's an announcement to change
the name of the office, or you

552
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,400
know, there's another one springing up, there's never anything there, you know

553
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,159
what I mean, there's just it's
always like we you know, we don't

554
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:40,239
know what they are, and you
know, looking into it, it's it's

555
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,000
not much. It's how they any
news anymore. We're not any more enlightened

556
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:49,960
than we were ten years ago,
other than the fact that they have made

557
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
this big admission that yes, they
do exist. No, we don't know

558
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,719
what they are, and we always
thought that was the reason they wouldn't admit

559
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,519
to it. But suddenly they fuss
up that they know something is out there.

560
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,679
The military thinks, if it's some
kind of national security, we have

561
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,400
to look into it, and a
lot of them show up on military ranges

562
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,199
and stuff like that. But as
you say, NASA, we'll look at

563
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:12,880
it from another point of view,
from a scientific point of view, maybe

564
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,880
helpefully, that's really what it is. And in fact, in their charge

565
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:24,199
it does say scientific. They emphasize
that so maybe that's how they're differentiating themselves

566
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:30,719
from the do d's group. But
it's interesting that they're doing that. It's

567
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:38,000
funny because at the announcement, which
included the head of NASA, they also

568
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:45,800
come back and said they found no
proof of any alien involvement in some of

569
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,079
these sightings. You know that they're
be coming over the side. So it's

570
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:57,000
interesting they combine that a presentation of
the new vision with that comment about you

571
00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:01,480
know, there's no nothing behind the
aliens thing have found anything? Excuse me,

572
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,719
yea. So they said they baselined
it. They baseline their their new

573
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,320
organization right from the stop by saying, yeah, but you know, there's

574
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,320
really nothing nothing man. You know, we don't know if we're just looking

575
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,199
into it, but we don't know
what it is. But the name changed.

576
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:22,280
We love the name because they changes
from abborne to anomalous, suggesting that

577
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,960
they're going to do a little bit
more undersea activity. Well, and the

578
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:30,679
other part of that is they're in
the presentation. The head of NASA did

579
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:37,159
answer a question response does he believe
there are you know, other life forms

580
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:40,599
out there? And he said,
you know, you have to how big

581
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:45,679
the universe is or whatever it is
out there. So he didn't downplay that

582
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,000
he isn't believe in it could be
something. He just said that, you

583
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,840
know, the committees or whatever,
that last group that did some research came

584
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,719
back, you know, and with
that finding. But no, he clearly

585
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,320
said that how can we believe that
we're the only ones, you know,

586
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:06,400
our life forms? Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's

587
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:08,960
the fact. If we were the
only life form in the universe, that

588
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,840
would be more mind blowing than if
if it's you know, filled with different

589
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,920
species and stuff. You know,
why us, I mean, how arrogant

590
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:21,199
can we be? Right exactly?
We're the only ones were not the only

591
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:27,400
ones, probably the smallest type of
lowest life on there is. And that's

592
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,400
why I think some of them can't
find us. You know, it's like

593
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:35,360
ants, ants, and they see
us down here, but they don't give

594
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,519
us any recognition. I have to
remind you that there are people that think

595
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:45,559
that the Earth is flat. That's
true. That's true. So there's that,

596
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:50,199
all right. Those are the ones
that think that we're the only ones

597
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,920
here that you know, I don't
have a lot of faith in NASA,

598
00:48:54,079 --> 00:49:00,639
but you know, how long has
it taken for them to at least say

599
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:05,440
they're going to be serious about this. For decades they have belittle you know,

600
00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:08,800
the sightings. Even airline pilots had
to be careful about reporting it.

601
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,360
I started to reread incident at Exeter, you know, we just went to

602
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,920
the Exeter Festival by John Ford,
written mid sixties, and that's a that's

603
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,840
a fascinating story to revisit. They
were they were actually at that time,

604
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:27,239
some of the newspapers were actually giving
some credibility because you had a lot of

605
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,159
police officers that were seeing these things
and uh, you know, and people

606
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:35,639
were seeing these things in mass and
they weren't. It wasn't just a helicopter.

607
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,480
These things were very uh you know, very up close, uh,

608
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:45,239
all lit up, noiseless. So
that was that was one little brief time

609
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,840
where it got some credibility. But
then, you know, we've all seen

610
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:54,400
over the years the the the UFO
story at the end of the newscast for

611
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,400
the little funny bit. Yeah,
have a good chuckle. No, that's

612
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,239
an excellent point. That's why this
is significant because you know, remember NASA

613
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,360
was really focused on planets in the
universe. They weren't focused on trying to

614
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:15,360
find you know, aliens themselves.
The idea of NASA is to go up

615
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,880
and uh, you know, discover
what's going on in the moon, probably

616
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,920
as much for resources as anything thing
else in ours. But you know that

617
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:30,800
wasn't their focus was the life,
whatever life there is up there. It

618
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,079
was more you know, getting to
these locations and finding out what's up there,

619
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,480
and not really with a focus on
there, you know, little green

620
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:43,920
men up there. I think it
was more focused on you know, the

621
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:46,239
as you can see from the tests
they do in there, you know,

622
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:52,360
looking for water and all kind of
resources and looking for life, but what

623
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:55,840
they would consider to be you know, very minimal kind of a life.

624
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,280
So I think it's significant that,
like you say that, all of a

625
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:05,800
sudden they're they're finally admitting this instead
of laughing at it. And I mean

626
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,800
look at CNN. All these networks
now give much more time to to these

627
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,360
groups. In fact, that was
one of the CNN areas of last week

628
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,519
when they announced this, you know
formation, and the interviewed the head of

629
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:25,679
NASA. So yeah, there's there's
some legitimates now and I mean it makes

630
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,239
us all things. Maybe they know
something, they really do know something that

631
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:36,199
we don't know. And maybe they're
about ready to tell us something. Well

632
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:42,679
we'll find out. All I know
is that it's a good sign to see

633
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,480
them, you know, getting into
this again. Well, they get a

634
00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:52,000
lot of people looking into it.
So I'm going to say something controversial.

635
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:59,880
Please don't, please, I don't. I don't have like high hopes and

636
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:04,920
NASA because to me, it's like
they're they're being held up by, you

637
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,840
know, the government, and I
don't have any hope in the government,

638
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:12,719
So like I feel like they're building
us up to tell us something like,

639
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,239
oh, remember when we said Pluto
wasn't a planet, Well, now Mars

640
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,079
wasn't a planet either. They're gonna
like do something stupid that doesn't even make

641
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:30,079
sense and throw everyone off. And
then years later they'll do something crazy again,

642
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:34,000
Like I say, aliens are real, and it's gonna start like this

643
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:38,840
weird cycle of mistrust almost do you
know what I mean? And how do

644
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,800
you announce it? And who announces
it? Do you know what I mean?

645
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,199
You're not gonna have just some guy
down at NASA. It would have

646
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,119
to be the President of the United
States would have to announce that if it

647
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:52,800
was something like really really real and
have the NASA guy right there with them

648
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,840
or whatever. You know that would
What makes you believe that it would be

649
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,119
the United States? Well, that's
another thing. Assuming it was, I

650
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:05,480
would think it would be like the
United Nations. They wouldn't share that.

651
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,079
No, that's an assumption that I
shouldn't assume. But yeah, you're right,

652
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,519
they wouldn't. They wouldn't. That's
only in the movies that they would

653
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:15,639
share that. By the way,
we take a musk might announce it or

654
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,599
something like that. Oh god,
I just threw up everywhere the Chinese.

655
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:22,159
I just hope they don't say uranus
is not a plan. That's my favorite

656
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,440
list on hang on. If that
isn't a good club? Is that a

657
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,559
good way to end your report?
I'd leave it to switch to try to

658
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,039
ruin I wanted to. I wanted
to a little funny bit at the end

659
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:42,719
of the newscast. I do have
a T shirt that says, uh,

660
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:46,719
you know, it's something about Pluto
rest in peace in nineteen thirty to two

661
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,920
thousand and four, whatever it was. That's it. There's no punch line

662
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:54,760
to watch your amos or something.
Come on, they gotta put something in

663
00:53:54,840 --> 00:54:00,119
the back of that thing anyway.
H well, thank you to be its

664
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:05,239
gonna outseell so it's life when urinus, thank you club that's going to sell.

665
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,800
Thank you. I'm quite welcome.
Yeah, you keep us going to

666
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,360
get directly involved with all of the
NASA sites and see if I can follow

667
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,760
this, uh yes, and see
if we get more out of it.

668
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:21,079
Yeah, this is a big that's
a big deal. It be fun.

669
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:24,599
That's a big deal. And I
hate to say, you have to kind

670
00:54:24,639 --> 00:54:29,400
of see how the funding goes to
follow the money. Yes, right exactly.

671
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,320
But you have to capture one,
you know what I mean, for

672
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,480
anyone to be convinced. And that's
why I know they don't have any of

673
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,199
them right now. You have to
capture one. And you just have to

674
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,159
say this is this, and this
is this, and you know, you

675
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:44,079
have to really look at it in
a scientific way, you know, and

676
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,840
not not this kind of press big
bang that the way you have to bring

677
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,840
it out. If you had something
like that, you would bring it out

678
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,920
and you give all the scientific reasons
why you believe this is not of earth,

679
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:59,320
you know, instead of something that
looks like a a garbage can or

680
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,960
something. And just really, anyway, why don't we do this? Why

681
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,679
don't we take we have here,
take a take a break now, I'm

682
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,519
now, I'm gonna take an aria
break. Tak take an right, and

683
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:15,719
we'll be right back after this.
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686
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687
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700
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to mcmonawy's mold tracks on a show
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701
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,960
This is maca Ronnie want to show
we have for you tonight, very quickly,

702
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:08,679
girls, very famous one one is
here. Hello Macallo, girls,

703
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,400
welcome back to the show. It's
been a fun one so far so far,

704
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:15,199
joining the heck out of it.
Also with us as our national correspondent

705
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:20,920
down there in List, Virginia somewhere
Switch Lac Watts, which great to be

706
00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:23,480
here and like JJ says, so
far we got a ways to go yet

707
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:28,519
so far. Thank you. Switch. He is a glass half old type

708
00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:32,920
of guy, and the studio with
us is Auranwdo UFO mcaey, Hello Mac,

709
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:38,320
Hello everyone, Smash get Away.
John Wall also chief of security,

710
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,039
Willie Club Willy, Oh, you're
doing well, you know, Mark,

711
00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:47,039
I'm doing great, And I disagree
with your folks here because I think so

712
00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:52,159
far it's been pretty impressive tonight.
I know, I don't want to say

713
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:54,639
my presentation had a lot to do
with it, no, but I really

714
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,760
sure I found this very informative.
I think when you're showing everybody here cashier

715
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:05,599
of junk food was probably a highlight. I know it was for me and

716
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:07,920
I'm just trying to cope. That's
why I'm eating donut. There you go

717
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:12,440
see it's a it's a it's a
gateway drug. Look. Also with us

718
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,719
though, is a favorite good witch
up there and sideways and young Raven is

719
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,440
with us. Raven, how love
my friends. Thank you so much for

720
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:22,920
having me and Club. Your report
was great, so you are allowed to

721
00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:29,079
pet yourself on the back. There
you go go ahead. I'm glad you're

722
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,639
welcome. Scaring the hell scaring the
hell of out of us once again.

723
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:36,440
Thank you. We have a guest
on now, so we should probably behave

724
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:43,079
us. Tom Harry Campbell is a
novelist and he's calling in and let's clap

725
00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:47,440
him on now. Jessy Cakes we
forget to do it later. Tom.

726
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:51,519
How are you? How do you
want to be addressed? Harley? Tom?

727
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,199
And what most writers have three names? Mom is fine, Harley is

728
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:58,559
fine either one? Okay? And
UH can call me Tom, you can

729
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:02,440
call me hard. You have a
a book I was called Blue Book and

730
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:07,880
it's a mystery series that you do, right. Yeah, it's a second

731
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:15,039
book of a series that I started
a few years ago. And it's set

732
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:17,880
in Dayton, Ohio, near right
Patterson Air Force Base. Yes, yes,

733
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,639
and where I grew up. And
yeah, this is a second book.

734
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:28,599
Okay. And on the back cover, let's just you know, talk

735
00:59:28,639 --> 00:59:31,159
about this right off the bat.
You have a Cincinnati Reds hat on is

736
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:35,599
that I was gonna I was gonna
mention that when I saw your boss and

737
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:37,639
hat. There was that yet by
your choice? Or did they make you

738
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,599
with that hat? No? No, no, I'm I'm from Dayton,

739
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:45,519
Ohio. Cincinnati was my team.
That's a brave move. Okay. They

740
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:47,519
used to be good, you know. I'm sure you remember the nineteen seventy

741
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:50,559
five Okay, that's all right.
Why do you have to bring that up?

742
00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:57,679
We always remember that. It's still
it's still an open wound. Believe

743
00:59:57,719 --> 01:00:01,119
me. And anyway, yes,
so, uh so, anyways, you

744
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:07,320
you grew up near right Patterson Afflis
Base. Yeah, a mile away,

745
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:14,119
mile away from the from the southernmost
end of Right Field, which was the

746
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:15,719
old part of the base. Well, why were you there? Was your

747
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:21,639
family in the military. Nope,
I grew up My dad and mom both

748
01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:25,159
grew up in Dayton, and I
was born there and that's just where I

749
01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:29,760
started life as a kid. You
must have seen a lot of airplanes coming

750
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,039
and going right. Yeah, we
were. We were right there. We

751
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:39,599
were about six or seven miles actually
almost in the flight path, almost straight

752
01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:45,000
over our house of the of the
field at at the Patterson Field where there

753
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:50,840
was a sack base during the Cold
War there, and then two bombers with

754
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:57,960
their you know, nuclear bombs were
four would fly over our house and they'd

755
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,679
circle around for twelve hours, kept
aloft by the four casey one thirty fives

756
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,039
that also took off over our house, and then they would land, and

757
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:08,920
or four more would take off and
then they would land. They were always

758
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,719
in the air. There was a
there was a time in the Cold were

759
01:01:14,159 --> 01:01:16,559
during the Cold War, and it
lasted pretty well into the sixties. I

760
01:01:16,679 --> 01:01:22,920
think that the Air Force of the
United States had a literally a bomba force

761
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:28,239
in the ear twenty four hours a
day for like years. Okay, just

762
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,119
in case the Russians try to do
something. Now, first of all,

763
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:32,639
the Russians, no way in the
world where the Russians have the money,

764
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,039
the the the equipment, the novels
of technology to do that. Okay,

765
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,679
they can't even get an aircraft carried
afloat. But that's the that's the kind

766
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:45,840
of that's the pressure we put on
those guys that at any minute, boom,

767
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:50,119
these planes are going to be there
in like a half hour before you

768
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:53,079
even know what's happening. So it
classed a lot of money. And back

769
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:58,519
then two, especially in the sixties, what they used to do is someone

770
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:01,880
said, well, why don't we
have these planes actually do something while the

771
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:07,719
reuptus. So they would make mock
bombing runs on big cities and uh in

772
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,920
the United States. And I can
remembers just seeing you know, like six

773
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:15,320
planes flying in a formation over Boston, way up high, always with the

774
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,480
always with the contrails, and uh, yeah, it's quite a time.

775
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:21,760
So that must have been cool because
we never saw a military aircraft where I

776
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,119
grew up in Boston. But that
must have been really nice if you're into

777
01:02:25,159 --> 01:02:28,800
that stuff. I mean, that
was that was sort of the that was

778
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,199
a big part of it. But
there was always there were always experimental aircraft

779
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,599
in the air, things that nobody
we had no idea what they were.

780
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,559
And uh, it was just non
stop sonic booms. Sonic booms were a

781
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:44,199
daily part of mine. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, when we were kids,

782
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:45,599
we would hear a sonic booms because
there was a naval last station in

783
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:50,119
Weymouth, which is probably twenty miles
away from Ust. But we should just

784
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,800
explain to people that right pass in
a space is it's a lot of things.

785
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,719
It's a it's a big base,
but there's a museum there too,

786
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:00,519
and then there's a lot of experimentation
that goes on there. It's just it's

787
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:04,559
just a huge, huge facility.
And yeah, it's the Right Brothers Museum,

788
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:08,840
right well, the it's the uh
the main museum. There's the is

789
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:14,079
the Museum of the Air Force,
which is huge and it's on old right

790
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:16,639
Field that that part of it is
very close to my you know, the

791
01:03:16,679 --> 01:03:20,599
house that I grew up in.
And it's a huge museum. They've got

792
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:24,440
all sorts of famous famous airplanes there. Yeah, yeah, nice. It's

793
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:30,519
on the part of the field where
right next to Area B, which is

794
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:36,800
where uh portions of the book,
uh portions of my book are because that's

795
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:43,000
where Project Blue Book uh was located. So all that's right there. Yeah

796
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:45,519
yeah, yeah, famous place in
the middle of a lot of different contraries

797
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:52,599
and stuff. So this is the
your second book. How long did it

798
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:57,760
take you to write this book?
Well, actually both books. I'm a

799
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,519
pretty fast writer once I start.
I think they both books. I had

800
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:08,199
a rough draft six months, you
know after after on both books, and

801
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:12,000
then there was a lot of editing
and you know, rewriting and stuff.

802
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:15,519
But pretty quick. That sucks,
though, doesn't it doesn't. It really

803
01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:19,159
just suck to re edit the book
over and over and over again. Well,

804
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:24,880
you know, it's a great learning
experience, it's and I didn't mind

805
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,360
it. I love the writing part
of it. That editing part not so

806
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:31,360
bad. The part that I hate
was trying to market it. And it's

807
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:36,519
just totally disheartening and it's a it's
soul crushing is what it is. And

808
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:41,079
I'm not sure if I'm going to
keep going or not. But Anyway,

809
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:43,280
I got a couple of good ones
out there. I think, well that's

810
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,480
good, that's good. So how
can people just remind people how they can

811
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:48,000
get it? You want me to
hold it up so they can see it?

812
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,480
Well, we're radio show, but
yeah sure, oh yeah, that's

813
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:55,159
right, the radio. I keep
it, but we can see it.

814
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,599
There, there we go, there
we go? Sweet? Good like the

815
01:05:00,679 --> 01:05:04,519
cover? Yeah, I haven't seen
the back cover. What's the back cover

816
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:11,440
you're talking about? Sinnati Reds picture
one. I love it. I think

817
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,199
it's a British statements good good?
Wow? Huh show without it's available?

818
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:20,199
It's available? How come on Amazon? And uh? What's the other one?

819
01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:25,239
Barnes and Noble and just blue book? Just called blue book? Yep.

820
01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:27,920
And I don't know if you guys
saw the did you did? You

821
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,280
happen to notice who I dedicated the
book too? No, let's see Merriman

822
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:45,119
row what no? No, I
tell us tell us the book is dedicated

823
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:50,159
to an old friend of mine named
Carl quentin Ella. Okay, and it's

824
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,119
dedicated to his memory. He died
a few years ago. I think I

825
01:05:54,239 --> 01:06:00,239
know the name. His father was
the director of Project blue Book. Okay,

826
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:08,920
And uh, and Carl and I
were good buddies through the whole time

827
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,639
that a lot of my buddies were
Air Force guys, air Force kids,

828
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,400
you know, they all lived like
a mile away in base housing, and

829
01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:18,559
so we had a big gang of
kids. And uh, and Carl was

830
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:25,639
one of them. And and when
uh, I mean we knew about Project

831
01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:29,320
Blue Book just because of him.
Mainly, I mean, most people didn't

832
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,280
really know about it back then much. But I had to do a high

833
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,239
school and while I was in high
school, my junior year high school,

834
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:42,599
I had to interview somebody, just
anybody really for a h for a journalism

835
01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:45,519
class that I was in. Yes, and I asked Carl if his dad

836
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:48,480
would let me interview him, and
he asked his dad and he said fine.

837
01:06:48,519 --> 01:06:54,320
So I interviewed Hector Quentinella. In
fact here, oh you're still on

838
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,159
the radio, but anyway, I'll
show you guys. Here is a Blue

839
01:06:58,239 --> 01:07:03,760
Brook brochure that he gave me.
Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

840
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:10,320
basically the you know, the the
same stuff they were telling everybody. And

841
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,800
but when I interviewed him, at
the end of the interview, he gave

842
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,039
me he fed me all the same
stuff that he fed everybody. And at

843
01:07:19,079 --> 01:07:21,920
the end of the interview I asked
him off the record, I said,

844
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:27,880
okay, this is off the record, what do you think about UFOs and

845
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,599
alien life? And he said,
uh, you know, as far as

846
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:36,880
I'm concerned, the universe is too
vast for us to think. It would

847
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,519
be arrogant of us to think we're
the only ones out here. Ye talk

848
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:45,880
about that a lot. Yep,
soul be almost impossible. It's almost and

849
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:51,960
you're not. I mean, they've
discovered now that there are two trillion galaxies,

850
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:59,559
two trillion galaxies, and every galaxy
has at least a trillion stars in

851
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:02,840
it, you know, or some
you know, huge hundreds of billions of

852
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:08,679
stars in it. Yeah, and
they have planets. To think about it,

853
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,400
It really does, yeah, you
know. And and the way that

854
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,559
you get from here to there it
isn't ballistic missiles, you know what I

855
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:18,239
mean. It's you have to find
some other way to you know, to

856
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:24,079
to go from here to there,
wormholes or whatever, because obviously it's so

857
01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:28,760
vast, it's not meant for us
and what we would call rocket ships to

858
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,279
go it would take two hundred years
just to get to the nearest on the

859
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:36,479
next star or whatever. So there's
something we have to figure out how to

860
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:42,359
build a flying saucer, yeah right, yep, or just some kind of

861
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,279
a time machine I think would be
able to do it, you know.

862
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:53,159
But anyway, so without giving away
a good you know, any plot points,

863
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:59,119
all right, I mean when did
you should become interested in UFOs?

864
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,720
Well, as I said, pretty
much back then. I mean, I

865
01:09:04,119 --> 01:09:12,199
uh, I never was a big
I wouldn't consider myself a ufologist or anything

866
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:15,199
like that, but I've always paid
attention to it because of Carl and his

867
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:23,000
dad and my uh you know,
my acquaintance with them, and uh so

868
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:27,119
that it's it's been around for a
while. I've witnessed a couple of UFOs

869
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:33,119
personally, and uh that's that helped
keep my interest in it to some degree.

870
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:39,720
Did I mean as a kid,
when I was a kid, we

871
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,079
knew a fu of os. There
were there were a few books in our

872
01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:46,119
library, but they were actually like
flying sauce of movies back then, you

873
01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:50,720
know, like Invasion from Mas you
you know, us versus flying sauces.

874
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:55,359
There was there was that. It's
like the UFO. It's like the you

875
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,279
know, flying sauces as opposed to
UFOs. You know, and they were

876
01:09:58,359 --> 01:10:01,079
always really really cool movies. No
matter how bad they were, there was

877
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,960
something really cool Abondham. And that's
that's what kind of attracted me to it,

878
01:10:05,119 --> 01:10:09,239
saying, well, this is strange
that there might be something something really

879
01:10:09,319 --> 01:10:11,960
odd out there. You know,
it's not all just what the nuns tell

880
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,560
you, you know, it's there's
something else, you know. So you

881
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,479
had you had nuns too, I
had nuns. Yeah, you could read

882
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:23,840
my first book. Oh really it's
about nuns. Really, yeah, it's

883
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:30,359
about it's about a it's the same
cop. It's in Dayton, Okay,

884
01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:34,560
it's sort of it's it's sort of
develops. His character is much more developed

885
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:41,399
than the first book. But he
it's all about Catholic abuse by the priest

886
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,640
in the Catholic church. It's not
the case that he's in the big case

887
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,039
that he's investigating about that. Okay, so uh, none of that in

888
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:55,600
the second book. The second book
is just about investigating a bunch of murders

889
01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:00,800
to take place. Uh, that
are all They all seemed to be leading

890
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,680
back to Right Patterson Air Force Base
and the remnants of Project Blue Book and

891
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:11,399
and the cop John Burke gets sucked
into the whole thing, and he's,

892
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,239
uh, he's afraid he might be
the next one to go. So so

893
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,039
if if Hollywood came to you and
said, Okay, who do you want

894
01:11:19,119 --> 01:11:24,399
to play a main character, who
would it be? Well, you know,

895
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,279
I thought about that after I wrote
the first book. He's probably too

896
01:11:27,319 --> 01:11:31,479
old now, but I thought,
I thought, Jeff Bridges, Jeff,

897
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:36,079
oh yeah, okay, yeah,
he's a good actor, but he's and

898
01:11:36,159 --> 01:11:41,680
he's also a musician, and I'm
a musician, and uh, I thought

899
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,760
we'd get along. But he's too
old now. A good choice. What

900
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:51,720
instrument do you play? I played
the bass fiddle. Okay, okay,

901
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:58,119
we had a joke there for a
second, but you know, yeah,

902
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:01,479
you know I'm not playing old time
music and bluegrass music. Oh really?

903
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,640
Yeah, okay, yeah, there's
a lot of uh yeah, there's a

904
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:09,119
lot of talent that clubs and stuff
there. So there's a lot of talent

905
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,520
that goes into playing that music.
You know, there really is, you

906
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,760
know, And whenever you see bands
like that, they always played live.

907
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,880
They're never faking it. Nothing in
the country or ever faking it. I

908
01:12:18,039 --> 01:12:23,359
don't know. And somewhere I saw
I looked at something mac max a musician,

909
01:12:24,319 --> 01:12:26,520
right, or he did an album. No, no, I just

910
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,239
hang around with musicians. That's why
I wanted to what do you call the

911
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:38,199
guy that hangs about musicians? A
drama? No groupy groupy Yeah yeah,

912
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:45,279
yep. But so, uh you
can find your book on Amazon, Amazon

913
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:53,560
or Barns and Nobles and yeah,
okay there it's called Blue Bug John Burke

914
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,760
Mystery by Tom Holly Campbell. Now
we would say him last week that anyone

915
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,439
has three names, they sound like
a serial killer or something, did you

916
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,279
Well, the reason that happened is, I mean, Tom Campbell's my real

917
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:06,880
name. And then, uh,
like I said, I was, I

918
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:12,119
was a musician, and I got
into this band. We all had sort

919
01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:15,359
of odd This was a bluegrass band, so we all had sort of stage

920
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:21,000
names, and I was I was
Hurricane Harley hot Mud. I was meaning

921
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:28,119
for Holly Davison was the hot Mud
family hot Mud. Okay, Hurricane Harley

922
01:13:28,199 --> 01:13:31,159
hot Mud. And then another guy
joined the band and his name was Tom

923
01:13:31,319 --> 01:13:36,520
also, and it just got confusing
to have two Tom's. Yes, so

924
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,840
they decided they were just going to
call me Harley. So pretty much from

925
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:45,720
the age I was twenty five on
everybody knows that I've met since then knows

926
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,119
me as Harley from the back.
All my family and high school friends and

927
01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:53,600
grade school friends know me as Tom. So I wanted to put both names

928
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,279
on the book. So what do
you do? What have you done for?

929
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,119
What have you done? What was
your career? What did you do

930
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:02,800
well? Uh? For many years
a musician, I was on the road

931
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,119
as a musician, traveled all over
the country in Europe and uh. And

932
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:10,479
then I was a songwriter for several
years, and I back and forth to

933
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Nashville, wrote some some a lot
of you know, country music, and

934
01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:20,359
uh, wrote a lot of bluegrass
gospel kind of songs. And you were

935
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:25,439
able to make a living doing that
well for a while. Yeah. Then

936
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,840
I then I wised up and quit
the road, got married, became a

937
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,920
sheenist for several years, and then
a carpenter and a house painter and uh

938
01:14:35,079 --> 01:14:40,239
uh contractor, and I retired about
a year and a half ago. I

939
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,239
the last fifteen years I was a
home inspector for a real estate transit.

940
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:49,479
Really yeah, yeah, hanted house. I was gonna say, they're all

941
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:59,199
haunted exactly in one house, A
good one that I inspected. I live

942
01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:00,680
here in Ithacan, New York.
Or well, I live in Trumansburg,

943
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:05,239
but it's right near Ithaca. Oh, that's that's I'm in upstate New York

944
01:15:05,319 --> 01:15:14,239
too, Binghamton. Well, we're
right, we're neighbors my daughter. Oh

945
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,079
yeah, that's literally right down the
road. That's so funny anyway. Uh,

946
01:15:18,359 --> 01:15:23,760
Hans Beta, who was uh sort
of the second man in line for

947
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:30,600
the uh for Los Alumus for the
for the Manhattan Project behind Uheimer. Yeah,

948
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,560
a guy named Hans Beta, and
uh, he was here in Ithaca.

949
01:15:35,239 --> 01:15:40,720
And my my wife's father was a
mathematician for many, many years at

950
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,760
Cornell, and so he knew all
these guys and there were five or six

951
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,239
of them that worked on the Manhattan
Project here. We always referred to him

952
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:53,960
as the bomb boys. But I
inspected. One of my inspections was a

953
01:15:54,039 --> 01:15:59,920
house that Hans Beta's son was selling. And when I went into the bay,

954
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,720
guess what I found? A bomb
shelter. Oh is that right?

955
01:16:04,199 --> 01:16:10,359
Okay, he knew, he knew
his son. Classic, that's funny.

956
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,479
That's funny. Yeah, everything's okay. But we're building a bomb. Pretty

957
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,560
cool, that's that's was there food
in the bomb shelter? It was pretty

958
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,439
rats or something that's cleared out,
a couple of cheap old bunk beds and

959
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:30,279
concrete block walls and wind up radio. There was no really too bad.

960
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:35,399
Yeah yeah, well that's that must
have been. You must be a very

961
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:44,399
accomplished bass fiddle player for YouTube tour
the world. Uh uh, well,

962
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,960
I you know, I played enough
to fool people. And he's a real

963
01:16:48,079 --> 01:16:51,159
musician. Never played jazz. Do
you have one here? Yeah? No

964
01:16:51,239 --> 01:16:55,000
one understands that. Do you have
one close to you? Do you have

965
01:16:55,079 --> 01:16:59,880
a bass downstairs in the in the
dining room? If we take up,

966
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:02,439
can you still play it? Oh? Yeah, all right, well I

967
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,720
play. I'm still in a band. We have a band here with my

968
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:11,920
wife played snare drum and got a
band here and uh called toivo t o,

969
01:17:12,039 --> 01:17:15,840
I vo v o. It's the
finished word for hope. And our

970
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,840
Fortian player is a Finnish guy,
and uh play a lot of Finnish music

971
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:24,399
and tex mex music and Cajun music
and country music and rock and roll,

972
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,880
all kinds of stuff. I'll tell
you. If we take a quick break

973
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,000
now, could you hang around and
just play us into the next next segment?

974
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,319
Oh? I can't do that,
will you sing? Can you sing?

975
01:17:38,359 --> 01:17:40,560
Can you dance? All right?
Do you want to hang around for

976
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,439
it? Do you want to hang
around for about ten one minutes? I

977
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,720
want to ask I ask your question. Records records out? Uh, back

978
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,439
from the old days. Yeah,
I had recorded a couple albums with two

979
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:59,159
different bands, and and then uh, the only this band that I'm playing

980
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:03,079
with now. We we have one
CD out that we've that we've recorded about

981
01:18:03,119 --> 01:18:06,479
twelve years ago, so it's old
stuff. But it's the same band.

982
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,680
We've been the same, same group
of people here in Trumansburg. We're all

983
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,199
local. We don't go on the
road. We play in local clubs and

984
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:18,039
bars and parties and different things,
dances. It's all fun though. It's

985
01:18:18,119 --> 01:18:24,680
fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I means you need any roadies,

986
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,199
he said, roadies, not groupies. All right, So listen, why

987
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:31,199
don't we take a quick break here
and we'll be right back. You're listening

988
01:18:31,239 --> 01:18:35,000
to mcmarty's militracks. I'll show here
on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. The

989
01:18:35,039 --> 01:18:44,079
whole gang is here, so please
stay. UFOs are found in Renaissance art,

990
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,000
on ancient coins, and etched on
cave walls. They're even reported in

991
01:18:48,079 --> 01:18:54,520
the Bible. But more surprising is
when UFOs have seen the most in times

992
01:18:54,720 --> 01:19:00,239
of war. Through centuries, thousands
of UFOs sightings have been made by high

993
01:19:00,279 --> 01:19:05,039
ranking officials, military pilots, and
ordinary soldiers. Often, these fantastic appearances

994
01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:10,720
occur at the height of great battles
from World War One to D Day to

995
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,880
Korea, Vietnam and beyond. Military
investigators are baffled, why do UFO sighting

996
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,760
spike so drastically during wartime? Could
it be mistaken aircraft or someone or some

997
01:19:23,119 --> 01:19:28,159
thing looking in on us? In
UFOs in Wartime? What they Didn't Want

998
01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:31,680
You to Know? Mcmaloney chronicles centuries
of these incredible sightings and tries to solve

999
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:36,800
the puzzle of why so many UFOs
are scenebolt humanity is at war. Read

1000
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:42,640
about the scare ships, the ghost
planes and the ghost rockets, alien giants

1001
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:47,439
in the jungles of Vietnam, UFOs
controlling our ICBM bases, dog fights with

1002
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:54,119
flying saucers during the Gulf War,
and more. Three hundred pages of unbelievable

1003
01:19:54,199 --> 01:19:59,640
stories, along with many startling photographs. That's UFOs in Wartime? What They

1004
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,119
Did I Want You to Know?
By mac maloney, On sale at your

1005
01:20:02,199 --> 01:20:43,319
local bookstore or on Amazon dot com. Welcome back and went to Macmoney's most

1006
01:20:43,359 --> 01:20:45,479
tracts on show here on the Distant
Thunder Radio Network. This is Macmonney.

1007
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,800
Well, what a show we have
for tonight. Very quickly, girls,

1008
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:53,279
you know who's he a famous one
one? Hello Mac, Hello, girls,

1009
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,560
welcome back to the show. Hev
it's awesome, it's funny, it's

1010
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:01,039
great, and we've got Tom Harley
and you had someone delive you jump food

1011
01:21:01,119 --> 01:21:05,840
today from the States, from the
colonies. Wow, we've all across the

1012
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:13,399
Atlantic. Favorite food also with us
is from National correspondent switch Plade, Steve

1013
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,279
wad Switchy. It's great to be
hearing, great to be the National correspondent.

1014
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,840
There you go. Okay, first
time you's ever said that. Did

1015
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:24,079
you have a cat on your desk
there a little while ago? I did

1016
01:21:24,159 --> 01:21:29,319
earlier that one was walking around and
uh then one was laying on the keyboard,

1017
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:30,840
and now they're both on the bed. There you go. Okay,

1018
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,640
that's going to be several demerits.
Okay, at the end of the year.

1019
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:42,159
Uh have a club security chief club. How you doing? You know,

1020
01:21:42,279 --> 01:21:44,920
I'm doing great. You know,
We've got a good show tonight because

1021
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:51,319
it's times flying by. Yes,
some nights of drags, Tough Love Club.

1022
01:21:51,359 --> 01:21:55,800
Can you give us a couple examples
that shows great for you? Yeah,

1023
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:02,479
when you do that last presentation last
year, we have video be a

1024
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:09,560
video of YouTube bro hugging. Don't
forget that at the I love the man.

1025
01:22:10,279 --> 01:22:13,000
Yeah. The thing is club is
a lot taller in person than he

1026
01:22:13,119 --> 01:22:15,640
is on zoom. Yeah right,
as it turns on, you are a

1027
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,960
lot smaller in person. Wow.
See you walked right into that. That

1028
01:22:18,079 --> 01:22:25,000
was one glasses I do. Of
course, I've been wearing those for years.

1029
01:22:25,319 --> 01:22:28,399
I can't wear heavy glasses. Well
yeah, huh no, good for

1030
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,800
my notes. So yeah, we'll
put him on and we'll all want to

1031
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:38,560
both of Joe Biden. So listen. It would automobile. Yeah, well

1032
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,239
you are riding around in a Cadillac. Right, how's that fall you do

1033
01:22:43,279 --> 01:22:45,960
you still get jeep? Of you? You have a Caddy in a No,

1034
01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:49,600
just just the caddy, yeah yeah, just the caddy. Nice car.

1035
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:55,119
Yeah yeah yeah, he drove it
down the islands. I got it

1036
01:22:55,239 --> 01:22:59,720
with the royalties, I get here. Did you really see switched? If

1037
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:05,680
you say if you save your money
anyway, that uphoe mchanical over now though

1038
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:10,079
it is here too, eh,
Hello Mack, Hello everyone? Do you

1039
01:23:10,199 --> 01:23:13,760
think the night is dragging? You
know? But I didn't get any royalties

1040
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,880
either, so we might make a
difference between the club. You know,

1041
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,880
I have no idea what that is
anyway. Also a good friend up there,

1042
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:25,960
and so I was raven. Isn't
this raven? I love my friends,

1043
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,880
Thank you so much for having me. And you had a cat in

1044
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,760
your screen a little while ago as
well. Right, Yeah, she was

1045
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,279
not having it tonight, so she
left me. She's she wanted to make

1046
01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:41,319
biscuits in the other room. I'd
see, Mack, how many demerits is

1047
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,960
Raven gonna get good? Compared to
how many demerits I'm going to get?

1048
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:46,720
I was wondering the same thing.
Thank you for bringing that up. Switch.

1049
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,800
What is it? What is a
demerit for a cat? I don't

1050
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:55,439
know anything. What egregious thing?
You know? Your cat was on more.

1051
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,760
We had more of a visual,
a sighting of your cat, you

1052
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:00,920
know. Mind you might have seen
the tail go by, So I think

1053
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,399
that's less demerits for me. No, you would think you have a diacting.

1054
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:09,239
I'm gonna disagree, but it is
not up to me. It's not

1055
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,960
it's not Raven Maloney's Military X Files. That's right, I remember that switch.

1056
01:24:13,079 --> 01:24:16,640
I can't hand out the DEMERITSSEF.
But we did see Raven's cat during

1057
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:24,399
the UFO Festival on the big screen
behind them, I mean good And I

1058
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,479
kept saying, I'm hearing that turns
around, He's gonna have him gone broke

1059
01:24:30,119 --> 01:24:34,000
that. Yeah, they were pointing
and laughing. I'm like, oh my

1060
01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:38,239
god, okay, I'll just hold
you. And then like she's sitting there

1061
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,039
for like a couple of minutes staring
at like you know, my camera,

1062
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,039
and I'm like it was such a
freak. I'm like, what are you

1063
01:24:45,279 --> 01:24:51,640
doing? World by an audience also
with us joining us tonight is uh.

1064
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:57,680
Author Tom Holly Campbell has a new
book I'll called Bullbook, a John Brooke

1065
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,640
mystery. Why don't we give him
a round of applause because when he's famous,

1066
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,279
they'll remember the little guys on the
way up? Am I going to

1067
01:25:05,359 --> 01:25:11,800
get the merits or royalties? Yeah? Okay, do you have any cats

1068
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,880
recognition? You don't have cats?
Do you? As of about six months

1069
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:28,079
ago? No? Oh well yeah, okay, you know eighteen years olds.

1070
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:34,439
Okay, that's a long time.
Wow. Yeah, did the cat

1071
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:39,479
ever do anything that you thought?
It was just kind of I don't want

1072
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:44,880
to say paranormal, but just kind
of odd behavior. Well, the cat's

1073
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:54,439
name was Lucy, and not long
after I after she died, I was

1074
01:25:54,560 --> 01:26:00,600
playing golf and I found a golf
ball on the course and I picked it

1075
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:06,439
up and printed not handwritten, but
actually a print printed on the on the

1076
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:14,000
golf ball. It said, Lucy
the Cat says, have fun. Now

1077
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,359
that was pretty My whole body is
doing that, like, wow, Wow,

1078
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:25,920
some kind of brand of golf ball, that's Lucy the Cat have fun.

1079
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,239
I think it was a titlist or
a you know, just the top

1080
01:26:29,319 --> 01:26:32,399
flight ball. But someone had printed
this, you know, little letters on

1081
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,159
there. I still have the ball. I have it downstairs and you still

1082
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:39,279
have it. Wow, that's just
took it. And oh yeah, I'm

1083
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:42,840
never going Yeah, no, hang
on to that forever. That's crazy.

1084
01:26:43,159 --> 01:26:45,239
That is crazy. That's a crazy
story. I've all the chances, you

1085
01:26:45,279 --> 01:26:48,520
know what I mean. But that
was that was Lucy. That was Lucy

1086
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:55,479
reaching out to you for sure.
Oh that's really nice. Yeah, stuff

1087
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,119
like that happens a lot, do
you know what I mean? I mean,

1088
01:26:58,359 --> 01:27:00,880
everyone thinks, you know, it
happened so much. Someone said,

1089
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,479
there's no coincidences, because if there
were, why why did they happen so

1090
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,760
much? You know, there's got
to be some reason for stuff like that.

1091
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,800
And it could be a glitch in
the matrix. It could be this,

1092
01:27:12,079 --> 01:27:15,680
it could be stuff that was beyond
our understanding. But stuff like that

1093
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,760
you just hear from. You know. You just there was someone who talked

1094
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:25,159
to you about a year ago.
They get married. They went on a

1095
01:27:25,279 --> 01:27:31,199
cruise and they saw the you know
how they saw their in laws on the

1096
01:27:31,279 --> 01:27:34,560
same Their future in laws are on
the same cruise, you know what I'm

1097
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:42,039
saying. Okay, so there's two
people aside of the being. There's a

1098
01:27:42,079 --> 01:27:44,920
guy and a girl and they're just
you know, kind of going out.

1099
01:27:45,079 --> 01:27:49,000
You know, they haven't met the
parents yet. The parents they're looking at

1100
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,720
old home movies, you know.
Years later, and there's the girl's parents

1101
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:58,359
on the same cruise as the guy's
parents. Well, that's pretty cool.

1102
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,520
I've seen photographs like that where people
have in the back, like in the

1103
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:08,199
background a photo and like the person
the focus of the photo was like their

1104
01:28:08,279 --> 01:28:13,279
wife that they met like ten Yeah, yeah, it's easy ye see How

1105
01:28:13,319 --> 01:28:15,640
does that happen? You know what
I mean? How does that happen?

1106
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,119
And if if you snapped a photo
at that time or taking photos at that

1107
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:23,319
time, you would not know what
had happened, you know what I mean.

1108
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,319
But here's the proof that stuff like
that happens all the time. He

1109
01:28:26,399 --> 01:28:29,960
might not be aware of it,
but yeah, strange. But you know,

1110
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,760
we think about cats, the path
of life was mapped out, and

1111
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,359
part of that evidence is in those
frames, in those captures, in those

1112
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:44,239
instances that we call coincidences, and
it's it's the matrix, So let us

1113
01:28:44,279 --> 01:28:46,439
do it. It's something, it's
something, It's a blip. It just

1114
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,800
seems like a blip in the program
for sure. Yeah, you know,

1115
01:28:50,760 --> 01:29:00,960
and I've had like maybe maybe for
a really crazy crazy esp coincidence is just

1116
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:05,479
no other way to explain it than
something just really weird. Yes, I

1117
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:13,079
think you mean ESPN ESPN No,
come on, Raymond was a joke.

1118
01:29:13,159 --> 01:29:16,399
I'm hilarious, the betting capital of
TV. I'd love to have two second

1119
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,680
esp that would be fun to a
second. Yeah, there you go.

1120
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:24,600
Yeah, operations. Do you mean
like a little blip of like what's going

1121
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,520
to happen in like in like a
few minutes or like a few years,

1122
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:33,279
and two seconds like Chris, two
seconds just enough to duck a punch there,

1123
01:29:33,359 --> 01:29:39,359
you know, yeah, so listen. Or two seconds before the dicest

1124
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:45,720
thrown on the at the table.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would

1125
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:54,079
be just two seconds one would if
you could just yeah yeah. Playing cords

1126
01:29:54,199 --> 01:29:58,000
is the best when you think of
it. You know, playing cords is

1127
01:29:58,079 --> 01:30:00,680
the way that if you had a
couple of seconds ahead of everyone else,

1128
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,680
that would really help you a lot, I think, you know, And

1129
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:12,680
and playing blackjack wouldn't really help you. But anyway, could you imagine the

1130
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:18,720
suit's coming down from upstairs? Ah
ye, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1131
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:23,960
I think all right, I think
you've had enough for tonight's sarcodbyfe don't come

1132
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:30,680
back by forever funny. So anyway, Switchy is uh this past weekend he

1133
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:38,279
practically ran the moth Man Festival down
there in West Virginia, and he's going

1134
01:30:38,319 --> 01:30:43,079
to give us a breathless report.
Let me put you you bumper in right

1135
01:30:43,119 --> 01:30:54,800
here, Switchy, And now it's
time for another story from the Lost Animals

1136
01:30:54,880 --> 01:31:03,239
of the Paranormal. It's time for
Steve Ward's report from the Fringe. Okay,

1137
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,359
I wouldn't say I ran it and
it was just a cog in the

1138
01:31:06,399 --> 01:31:13,680
wheel. Okay, it is actually
Jeff Wansley and his family and his in

1139
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:18,920
laws and friends and relatives are the
ones that it's really it's a family run

1140
01:31:19,039 --> 01:31:26,399
festival, and Jeff has uh he
co founded the festival with another lady named

1141
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:30,880
Carolyn Harris who's no longer with us, and he founded the Mockban Museum.

1142
01:31:31,319 --> 01:31:35,279
He's got a couple of other businesses
there as well. And he was he

1143
01:31:35,399 --> 01:31:39,880
was actually six years old when all
all this happened in the mid sixties,

1144
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:45,319
when the Mokman sightings occurred, when
the bridge collapsed and so forth. So

1145
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:49,439
over the years he started collecting material
and he has He's put together an incredible

1146
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:55,680
museum that has captured all the history
and folklore of that time period. Well,

1147
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,279
they started in two thousand and two. They started happening a Mokband festival,

1148
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,039
and it had very humble beginnings,
but now you're just talking thousands and

1149
01:32:03,159 --> 01:32:11,039
thousands of people. I was the
MC there and I also spoke on John

1150
01:32:11,119 --> 01:32:15,520
Keel and the Mothman kind of a
Mothman one on one, and I also

1151
01:32:15,039 --> 01:32:19,720
was one of the tour guides on
the hay Ride on Saturday night, we

1152
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:26,119
take people into the dreaded TNT Area. Now, the TNT Area was a

1153
01:32:26,199 --> 01:32:30,119
place back in the forties where it
was a huge complex where they made explosives

1154
01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:34,439
for World War Two. Once that
was over, most of the buildings were

1155
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:39,760
taken down and dismantled. The old
North Power Plants still stood there, and

1156
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,560
that's where one of the first major
sidings took place. Two married couples saw

1157
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:47,000
this six or seven foot tall winged
humanoid with red glowing eyes, and it

1158
01:32:47,159 --> 01:32:51,359
chased them into Point Pleasant. So
that's where the that's where the festival's help

1159
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:57,359
point wasn't West Virginia deep in the
Ohio Valley, and it is right on

1160
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,439
the banks of the Ohio River and
the Kanama, or actually two rivers come

1161
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:06,199
together. So I did a wh
when I was doing the hay Ride and

1162
01:33:06,319 --> 01:33:11,279
doing the m seeing, I would
do informal surveys to see who the old

1163
01:33:11,359 --> 01:33:14,239
timers were and who the new ones
were. Well, last year it was

1164
01:33:14,279 --> 01:33:18,439
about two thirds new and one third
the old Guard. This year it was

1165
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:24,520
more like three quarters new and one
quarter of the old Guards. Due to

1166
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:28,560
the well the film came out twenty
years ago. Richard Gear that that alerted

1167
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,359
a lot of people to the Mothman
prophecies. A lot of people have not

1168
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:38,239
read the book by John Keel and
uh so uh, but you know,

1169
01:33:38,399 --> 01:33:43,840
through various documentaries and so forth,
more and more people know about this this

1170
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,079
period of time. Call it,
you know, history of folklore, whatever

1171
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:57,600
you like. And the I mean, I saw some pictures from above of

1172
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:02,560
the thousands of people there over the
weekend, just amazing. Yeah, that's

1173
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:06,760
called go ahead now. I was
just gonna ask where people pulling quattas out

1174
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:11,399
of the Mothman's ass, the statue's
ass? Was that activity going? You

1175
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,439
know what I you're talking about?
Man is talking about the shiny Hindie.

1176
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,520
You know, we're very very dignified
here in West Virginia and we call it

1177
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:21,119
the shiny Hineing. Okay, go
ahead now. The line just to get

1178
01:34:21,159 --> 01:34:27,520
their picture with the Mothman was incredibly
long. Lines for for everything food And

1179
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,640
there's a at the crossroads there,
the side street. It's where the statue

1180
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,359
is and that's where the most of
the speakers have their tables and they're very

1181
01:34:35,399 --> 01:34:42,119
accessible. The speakers were down at
the Senior Center, which was a very

1182
01:34:42,159 --> 01:34:45,800
good place to have them, and
uh, it's just they're just uh,

1183
01:34:45,039 --> 01:34:48,399
you know, it's it's has a
lot of typical festival stuff with T shirts

1184
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:54,880
and you know everything mothman and food
and so forth. But uh, you

1185
01:34:54,960 --> 01:35:00,079
know, the it's it's great when
you're interested in this stuff and you have

1186
01:35:00,199 --> 01:35:03,960
been reading certain authors, paranormal authors, to have a chance to see them

1187
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:08,920
speak and also have a chance to
speak with them. Now, the only

1188
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,359
thing that costs a little bit of
money is that hay ride, the T

1189
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,359
and T hay ride. It's only
five bucks. And the line for that

1190
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,840
was was amazing, and so we
there was three of us. There's three

1191
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:26,079
tractors. Two of the carts are
properer hay ride with bales of hay.

1192
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,600
They usually give me the old man
cart with the nice comfortable seats, which

1193
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:35,640
which I always appreciate. And so
we go off through the We start at

1194
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:40,279
the farm Museum, which is still
part of this fast T ANDT area,

1195
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,279
which you know, it fills acres
and acres and it's a really creepy area

1196
01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:47,199
in the daytime, very creepy at
night. And so for a few days

1197
01:35:47,239 --> 01:35:54,039
ahead of time, I started setting
setting up calmly together bizarre looking creatures and

1198
01:35:54,119 --> 01:35:58,119
giants, spiders and stuff and lighting
up their eyes and strategically placing them in

1199
01:35:58,199 --> 01:36:03,399
different parts of the ride. But
the real, uh, the peak experience

1200
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,600
for the hay Ride, a couple
of my buddies, John and Chim.

1201
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:12,039
They fly the moth Man. They
take the there's a moth man suspended up

1202
01:36:12,079 --> 01:36:17,319
in the ceiling of the of the
museum, and so they rig a wire.

1203
01:36:17,399 --> 01:36:20,199
They take them out. They hide
behind the old acid plant. They

1204
01:36:20,279 --> 01:36:26,239
have this ingenious low check delivery system
with a hand crank. They light up

1205
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:30,800
his eyes with battery power and they
blast a sounder effect which I can't reveal

1206
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:35,039
what it is because they've never paid
royalties and I don't want them to end

1207
01:36:35,119 --> 01:36:41,239
up imprisoned or with ankle bracelets.
We'll keep that secret. But it's it's

1208
01:36:41,319 --> 01:36:44,479
just really really cool, it you
know, you just have a lot of

1209
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:49,600
fun with people, you find out
where they're from, and uh, it's

1210
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:55,520
just you're also go ahead, you're
also scaring the shit out of people,

1211
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,479
right really in a way? Well, yeah, well we try, you

1212
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,720
know. I told him that we
were infested with a bunch of giant mutant

1213
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:08,039
spiders and uh, you know,
I mean one thing that really got a

1214
01:37:08,119 --> 01:37:12,000
laugh I got. I had had
this old, big spider about two and

1215
01:37:12,039 --> 01:37:15,359
a half feet long, a realistic
looking one. I put a wolf's head

1216
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:21,039
on it and like like a camera
switch, put like always there and spray

1217
01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:24,720
paint. It almost looked like it
was all part of the same creature.

1218
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:29,680
So as we were rounding the corner, this is now it's the Meclintic Wildlife

1219
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,039
Area. So I'd said, look, this is the Meclintic Wildlife Area and

1220
01:37:32,199 --> 01:37:35,239
we're going to experience some wildlife here. And I said, well, here

1221
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:41,399
is a common wolf spider. And
that always got a good laugh because I

1222
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:45,479
didn't really expect it. But his
eyes were lit up red and I had

1223
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:50,119
him highlighted with with flashlights and so
forth. But there was one you know,

1224
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:54,760
the people are sometimes you get a
good crowd that just really eat it

1225
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,600
up. And there was one that
when when we come around the corner and

1226
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,399
you could see the moth man in
the distance, you see his red eyes

1227
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,800
and he's poised on that wire to
come down as you as your cart goes

1228
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:12,279
by. And I'm always telling people
say, you know, look, there's

1229
01:38:12,279 --> 01:38:15,279
no guarantee we're going to see the
moth Man, and we can't give any

1230
01:38:15,359 --> 01:38:18,680
refunds. The good news is the
excess goes into my retirement fund and all

1231
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:23,079
this nonsense. So I'm down playing
the Mothman. In the meantime, this

1232
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:27,960
little girl is seeing the Mothman in
the distance and she's she's pointing and her

1233
01:38:28,039 --> 01:38:30,359
hand is going up and down,
and so I was kind of mimicking her

1234
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,119
arm. I said, young lady, do you have some kind of condition?

1235
01:38:33,359 --> 01:38:35,119
She said, no, no Mothman, moth Man. I said,

1236
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:38,880
oh no, we're not going to
see the moth Man. It's a trick

1237
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,479
of light and shadow, you know. And then when the Mothman flew,

1238
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,680
I said to her, why didn't
you tell me the Mothman was there?

1239
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,840
So they everybody just ate it up. So you're just you know, you

1240
01:38:48,279 --> 01:38:53,840
play the audience. They that's a
high point for so many people is to

1241
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,720
go on. This says, hey, right, you don't really need anything

1242
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,720
because the area is so creepy atmospheric, but it's it's so I spent three

1243
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:08,880
days climbing ladders and hanging up stuff
and cobbling together little little beasts. Creepy

1244
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,720
Crawley. Thanks, thanks for your
service switching. Well, listen, there's

1245
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:16,880
a lawsuit in there somewhere. Right
when you think about it, it's just

1246
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,560
you know, I could see someone
you know fake in a hot attack.

1247
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:30,000
So what are the cops? What's
your What's just remind everyone like when the

1248
01:39:30,119 --> 01:39:33,520
Mothman Museum is open for the public, Well, it's open every day.

1249
01:39:34,039 --> 01:39:40,239
Uh normally it's I think it's ten
to six, uh and during the and

1250
01:39:40,279 --> 01:39:44,800
then the Sunday it's open at noon
and to five. I think. Anyway,

1251
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,560
it's it's it's open all the time. Uh. The Mothman Festival is

1252
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:55,000
uh if all every every third weekend
in September. And you better get your

1253
01:39:55,039 --> 01:40:00,479
hotels now or motels now because they
fill up really fast. Right everyone here

1254
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,680
heard it here first. It really
is a lot of fun and you can

1255
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:10,640
people that are interested in this.
Uh. Some people aren't interested in the

1256
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,239
paranormal. Why they just go to
have a good time. But if you're

1257
01:40:13,279 --> 01:40:15,399
interested in this kind of thing,
you can talk to all kinds of people

1258
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:20,159
about these subjects without you know you
have Sometimes your friends and relatives will look

1259
01:40:20,199 --> 01:40:24,720
at you sideways or cross side when
you find when they find out, what

1260
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:29,159
did you do this weekend? Where
did you go? So yeah, And

1261
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:30,840
it's funny that you thought, like, you know, you did like the

1262
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:35,159
tally of like who's who's new and
whatever. There's like this big resurgence with

1263
01:40:35,359 --> 01:40:43,359
cryptids, and you know that that
entire paranormal and folklore aspect in general,

1264
01:40:44,279 --> 01:40:46,359
you know, because there's so many
documentaries and shows that are out right now.

1265
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:49,920
So I think that's why there's like
such an uptick. But it's great

1266
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:55,520
because then you know that can keep
going for another ten twenty years. Yeah,

1267
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,239
right, Yeah. When I gave
the talk on the Mothman, kind

1268
01:41:00,239 --> 01:41:03,920
of a basic primer, but you
can't talk about the Mothman without talking about

1269
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,600
John Keel, who was a really
interesting guy, did all kinds of you

1270
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,800
know, he got so tired of
talking about the Mothman. He was just

1271
01:41:12,159 --> 01:41:15,560
he would always change the subject.
But he was a really really interesting guy.

1272
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,520
One gentleman came up and he wanted
me to sign his copy of the

1273
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:24,920
Mothman Prophecies, even though I'm not
John Keele and he's been deceased since two

1274
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,119
thousand and nine, but I was
I was honored. Did you do it?

1275
01:41:28,239 --> 01:41:30,439
Well? All right, switch,
let's get a switch around of applause

1276
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:36,239
with all his hot work scaring the
hell out of little kids. Well,

1277
01:41:36,359 --> 01:41:40,960
I used to do that, and
when I was in Michigan, I spent

1278
01:41:41,039 --> 01:41:45,880
a whole month setting up my front
yard with with creepy crawleys that would move

1279
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:50,399
on pulleys and sound effects and all
that stuff. You know, it just

1280
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:55,279
gets fun traumatizing the young shoulder.
Really, Okay, get over there,

1281
01:41:55,319 --> 01:41:59,399
we go this testimony in three months. If they don't want to come to

1282
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:04,399
your house to get candy, then
you just keep their candy exactly. Yes,

1283
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:10,199
why didn't we think of that?
So listen, the train is arriving

1284
01:42:10,279 --> 01:42:13,880
in the station switching. Well,
okay, I can hear it in the

1285
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:17,119
distance. Is that what that noise? So we're gonna say good night to

1286
01:42:17,359 --> 01:42:23,640
our guest tonight, Tom Holly Campbell. His book is out, Blue Book,

1287
01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:29,119
a John Burrick mystery, and has
everything in I read. They know

1288
01:42:29,239 --> 01:42:31,119
the pre of it, and it
sounds like a very exciting book, and

1289
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:35,439
it's you write what you know.
So it happens around where you grew up,

1290
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:41,640
right, Pattison influence space right,
and everybody should run out and buy

1291
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,800
it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Very good

1292
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,920
ratings on Amazon by the way,
but a few ratings there and they're all

1293
01:42:47,039 --> 01:42:51,199
high. And then cover. Yeah, and I don't mean I don't mean

1294
01:42:51,239 --> 01:42:55,319
the reviewers are high. I mean
the ratings high. You don't never don't

1295
01:42:55,359 --> 01:43:00,359
say that you don't a nice cover, too nice atmospheric cover and was really

1296
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,880
going cover. Yeah, it's a
selling books. So good luck that,

1297
01:43:03,079 --> 01:43:06,000
Tom. We really appreciate it.
Good luck to you. Since Danny Reds

1298
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:13,039
Okay, the Reds will be in
there before the Red Sox. You're in

1299
01:43:13,079 --> 01:43:15,399
there for sure, and we really
appreciate it. We'll get him next year,

1300
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,319
yeah yeah really maybe about ten years
maybe, but you never know.

1301
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:31,319
Look, there is fantastic job,
Club. Thanks for joining us, Club.

1302
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,920
I know you want to dive into
your red junk food treasure chests.

1303
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:40,319
There I do. I'm gonna have
it while I'm watching the Red Sox Texas

1304
01:43:40,399 --> 01:43:44,880
game. Oh man, you'll need
the sugar to stay awake. All right,

1305
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:46,920
all right, thank you club for
joining us tonight. We'll talk to

1306
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:51,000
you soon, okay, Okay,
we'll talk to you soon about the casino

1307
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:56,640
trip. All right, sounds good. Okay, Thanks you, Switchy,

1308
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:03,520
Thank you Switchy, Thank you my
pleasure. Appreciate Okay, Elwinado. Time

1309
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:09,760
to will start the engine, time
to head out. Thanks you all for

1310
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,920
joining us tonight. We appreciate glad
to be here. I'll order me a

1311
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,000
black and blue burger with a side
of onion rings. Right, yeah you're

1312
01:44:15,039 --> 01:44:19,039
saying black and tan. Yeah,
you know that's what I was figuring.

1313
01:44:19,119 --> 01:44:23,840
More in line with anyway, we'll
oo will send the bill to you at

1314
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:27,760
one one. Uh and thank you
well, Raven, Raven of course,

1315
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,720
thank you. Thank you so much
for having me your space buttons, but

1316
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:36,319
we couldn't see them all night.
Space buttons, space bunds. Yeah,

1317
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:44,439
space blending with my background. You
need you need some backlight. You need

1318
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,159
backlight, you know what I mean? Yeah, that little but you need

1319
01:44:47,239 --> 01:44:51,279
backlight. You need a backlight so
you can put the light on the back.

1320
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:56,119
Appreciate me. I need like way
better lighting than I have, but

1321
01:44:56,359 --> 01:45:00,479
it's just not going to happen.
Put only Larry on the job. Well,

1322
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,960
thank you okay. And you told
me earlier that you've had a head

1323
01:45:03,039 --> 01:45:08,399
butt with your dog and that you
were suffering. Yeah, my dog,

1324
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:13,560
my rescue, my baby girl Ruby. I love her so much. I

1325
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,439
was sitting on the couch with her
yesterday. It was Monday morning, and

1326
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,600
so it was already terrible because it
was Monday morning. So I had to,

1327
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:23,600
like, you know, go to
work and whatever. And she's sitting

1328
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:27,680
next to me. She's a seventy
pound fox sound and doesn't know how big

1329
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,159
she is. And all of a
sudden, I'm sitting there. I was

1330
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:33,960
talking to mister Raven, so like
my head was turned and she just goes

1331
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:39,680
and goes like bam, right back
in my head. I had my glasses

1332
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:43,399
on, so this side of my
glasses just went like into my face.

1333
01:45:44,119 --> 01:45:47,439
Her head hit my forehead. I
have had a headache ever since. Wow,

1334
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:51,479
not like this headache has not stopped. You might have gotten a concussion

1335
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:56,079
with that, you know, I've
had two other concussions, and so I

1336
01:45:56,399 --> 01:46:00,680
haven't been experiencing the symptoms. So
I think I'm okay, Yes, but

1337
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,920
I have bruising around my eye.
Really cover up with my with Mike concealing.

1338
01:46:05,199 --> 01:46:09,720
How's the dog? Is a dog
acting strange? Hi? And she

1339
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,840
doesn't care? Okay, she got
off the couch. It was wiring her

1340
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:15,680
tail. She didn't care at all. I had hurt so bad and she

1341
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:20,079
could not care less. Wow,
Okay, Well this moment in Raven's life.

1342
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:26,159
Yep, brought you by Paerina another
day anyway, Thank you wow Ravens

1343
01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:29,520
for joining us. We'll talk to
you soon. Sounds good. Okay,

1344
01:46:30,359 --> 01:46:33,000
and one one once again, thank
you and we will talk to you soon.

1345
01:46:33,239 --> 01:46:36,720
Okay, okay, always a pleasure. Let me go very quickly into

1346
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:41,680
the plugs. Homesfot Troopers is an
organization that raises money for veterans who were

1347
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,640
injured in post nine to eleven combat
that the Afghan Wall and also the Iraqi

1348
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:49,520
Wa. These are folks who came
home, many of them missing limbs,

1349
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:56,000
and Homestrot Troops builds them brand new
houses that adapted to their issues, so

1350
01:46:56,079 --> 01:46:59,039
in other words, lower account to
space, not a lot of stays.

1351
01:46:59,159 --> 01:47:01,479
Things like that just make things a
little bit easier on them. And then

1352
01:47:02,039 --> 01:47:04,880
when they complete the house, they
rip up the mortgage, they give them

1353
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:09,640
the keys, they have it.
It's their house forever for free. And

1354
01:47:10,079 --> 01:47:13,600
this is our way to kind of
pay back and pay back with these people

1355
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:18,199
of sacrifice for us, and they
can go and rejoin the world without having

1356
01:47:18,239 --> 01:47:23,760
to think about a mortgage over their
head. Every month Homesrot Troops, ninety

1357
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:28,279
cents of your dollar goes through rachel
our veterans, so please google them see

1358
01:47:28,319 --> 01:47:31,720
what's going on homest troops. And
that's the gang. So we're gonna have

1359
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,640
a Halloween show coming up soon.
We're gonna have a music show coming up

1360
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:39,479
soon, but tbd. So thanks
very much for joining us. And so

1361
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,840
this is back from the entire Gangs
saying be safe, be happy, and

1362
01:47:44,119 --> 01:47:53,000
bye bye. And now please stay
tuned for a bonus segment of Mac maloney's

1363
01:47:53,079 --> 01:48:19,960
Military X Files show. It's been
so long since I've seen her face.

1364
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:34,600
I pray she's to in fine.
I still came a sad last day.

1365
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:45,359
I had hurt so bad to see
her cry. I didn't wanna say good

1366
01:48:46,039 --> 01:49:01,000
by. Send her my love,
memories remains, Send her my love roses

1367
01:49:01,159 --> 01:49:50,920
never kay sen my live, same
o world, same as lost in the

1368
01:49:51,239 --> 01:50:05,279
sky. She needed so much more
then I could. We knew that love

1369
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:42,239
can love pret a broken heart.
Skin always me. I would hurt so

1370
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:55,720
bad to see her cry. I
didn't want to say good right, Send

1371
01:50:55,800 --> 01:51:06,840
no my love them boys dreaming,
Send her my love roses now the pain,

1372
01:51:09,880 --> 01:52:26,560
Send her my love Where you didn't
have a degree, And those are

1373
01:52:26,600 --> 01:56:15,239
the roots of trouble day. I
hear the long strut on look here in

1374
01:56:15,399 --> 01:56:21,239
this place where time is done,
but damn suffer, never chime in times

1375
01:56:21,279 --> 01:56:27,000
of moo in days gone Vine,
if I could catch one one feeling,

1376
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:38,960
Vine, it was on the way
on the wrong to treat in street,

1377
01:56:44,479 --> 01:56:50,840
it's treats a down the stories till
the time has one cross and catch your

1378
01:56:51,239 --> 01:57:00,720
up. The feeling was chilling wrong, it was on no room to drag

1379
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:29,840
it down. I strong in stream
on this dark place. The son is

1380
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:35,119
black. And when the light has
come in black this dark place, it's

1381
01:57:35,199 --> 01:57:41,880
gone inside. It's no retreat from
time. Every time it goes on no

1382
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:55,439
way on no room to treat it. Now I try ran it down,

1383
01:57:56,520 --> 01:58:53,920
Try and know how I was straight. I'm going with sho I get home,

1384
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:59,159
I said I. When my rad
has gone in the last day,

1385
01:59:00,159 --> 01:59:19,479
show down strain on the at no
brothers r
