Toby Bellringer. Welcome to bat Flip and Nerds. Hello and welcome to Hi,
butt Flips and Nerds podcast, a baseball podcast with a British twist.
We are back. We have been away for an extended period of time.
Sadly we couldn't get together to discuss the postseason and seeing some team that nobody
really cared about actually winning the World Series because as we all know, that
was a boring World Series because there was no East Coast or West Coast teams
involved with it. But we are here now. We talk about free agency.
We have hopefully a funky draft to go through and do that. I
am joined by, firstly, my fellow statman Darius. Darius are we doing
I'm doing well? Coming hit in hot on the Rangers there, Russ Hey
like we might as well just like punch people while they're on the up.
Yeah, Oh seriousness, congrats to Texas. Great round. Corey Seeger is
a beast. Anything else to say? Really? Yeah, phenomenal And to
hopefully counter mine and Darius is overthinking of this exercise, we have Rob Nevada
is, how are we doing wrong? I'm just delighted and surprised that the
Rangers won the World Series. I've just found out about that. Now you're
not Tom Prangle, you are at least aware of some things that are happening.
Okay, I was aware of it. Yeah, okay. So what
we're planning on doing tonight is we're going to look at the which team we
think basically is going to draft most of the top three agents in the postseason
before we basically the season starts. So the way we're doing this is we're
taking MLB trade moomors top fifty players and we're just looking to basically see which
teams sign the most of them. It's not about like who spends the most
dollars, who kind of picks up like the most award from this, It's
just who signs the most of that MLB top fifty. I think I'm gonna
in a short time do a quick run through of all who those players are,
just so you are aware, but effectively, there's thirty pitchers, twenty
starters, to swing men, mate believers, and twenty position players. Just
quickly, like Daris, does this list have any like glaring emissions? I
don't think anybody's going to be shocked that it's not the deepest free agent class
in the world definitely stronger on the picture side. That's probably going to be
you know, fans of certain teams or players who go, why isn't this
guy in here? But yeah, if you don't make the top fifty,
then you're not really a premium free agent. So I think it's fine.
Yeah, this is going to work in a pretty kind of hopefully traditional make
draft that whoever goes first, then we go just we'll loop back around.
We will draft as many teams as we'd like, obviously, talk a little
bit about why we're choosing these teams to start off with, and probably get
towards a quick fire round at the end. So just in case you don't
know and haven't been bothered to go to MLB trade rumors to look at the
top fifty, here is as fast as I can say fifty players' names,
showy Arni, Courdi Bellingjoe Joshinoo, Yamamoto, Blake Snell, Aaron Nola,
Jordan Montgomery, Matt Chapman, Josh has Sunny Gray, Show to Ima Marga,
Eduardo Rodriguez, Taaska, Hernandez, Jim Vandelario, Lordes Couriel, Jong
Ho Lee, Johe Selaire Lucas, Julieta, Marcus Stroman Seth Logo, Jad
Martinez, Jordan Hicks, Jack Flaherty, Mitch Garver, Michael Waker, ken
To Maida, Rhys Hoskins, Robert Stephenson, Yariel Rodriguez, Ronaldo Lopez,
Mike Clevenger, Kevin ki and My Nick Martinez Andrealis Chapman, Michael Lorenzo,
shanman Ia Harrison, Bader, Tyler, marhe Gioshela armed Rasario, Whitmerfield,
Justin Turner, Jason Heyward, u Kim Atsue, Frankie Montas, Brandon belt
Hector, there is Jacob Junius, Lewis, Lverino, Liam Hendrix, and
Tim Anderson Hey And what are the possible teams they could go to? Russell
Well, I'm not going to name are thirtyeen, but some of you may
be aware that a few of those players have already signed. We actually have
five of that top fifty have already signed, but each one of those is
actually we signed for one. Well, each team only has one of those
signs. So even though Phillys Saint Lewis, Detroit, Atlanta and the Dodgers
already have a signing, it's one apiece, so they are still effectively available
for our draft. No one is significantly put out by this, and maybe,
like you've done a fantasy draft before, after the first weekend started,
there's some bankers that you can choose whether you want to take that or go
with that. Otherwise, I think we're we're ready to go, Rob Daris,
do you understand what we are doing the ones in a draft? Yes?
I think I do. So you're not prepared for completely the wrong thing?
Yes, not this time. No. I have, however, only
managed to look at five teams and four of them feature in my bottom ten.
So I'm really really going to be clutching at straws here. See the
thing is here, there's I can't even quite work out what my tactics and
theory are here because there could be teams just going to throw a lot of
the wall and see what sticks here. We're not we're not really aren't looking
at like who's good because the bottom half of that list, once you get
to sort of Mike Clevenger, Kevin Kimyer onwards, it's it's a lot of
a lot of rubbish down there, isn't it. Yeah, I mean it's
not the highest quality, a lot, a lot of uncertainty. I feel
like these players have had good seasons, most of them at some point,
but there's not a lot of certainty for sure, and a lot of the
bar Yeah, either at the tail end of their careers or coming off big
injuries. It's uh yeah, very very light on the certain production. I
think, Yeah, Kimmeyer, I think injuries aside is probably the best of
that budge there. But yeah, just a lot of you know, Anderson
and Severino and up Rosario, just people coming off massive, massive down seasons
might be good bounce back bets, but yeah, you don't really know what
you're getting with. Yeah, we'll hopefully maybe talk a bit more about the
free agents people in more detail in another podcast, hopefully in the next few
weeks. We'll hopefully also do maybe a twenty twenty three in review, which
may have a special twist about can we convince senor Pringle that things happened or
didn't happen in twenty twenty three? So, Rob, I think I will
give you the honors of the first free agent team to go for So Rob
with the first pick in the Backflips and Nerds Free agent team Draft. Who
are you selecting. I feel like there's a right answer here, and I'm
not of itht of it. There is a right answer. Okay, well,
I'm telling you now, I'm not going to go for that because I
don't know it. I'm going to take the Chicago Cubs. Is that the
wrong answer, isn't it? I don't think it's a wrong answer. I
think it's a reasonable answer. I answer, okay, right, fine,
Johnny, good, wonderful. Yet, So the Cubs, what I've had
a little look at is what they've been doing over the last few years,
and the Cubs have never been afraid of recruiting a few free agents, even
in down years. Now this year, obviously they got close and they're probably
going to have a look at moving forward a bit. So I think the
level of the the free agents they pick may be slightly higher than the last
couple of couple of years. So they've got a few gaps. They've obviously
lost mister Bellinger, maybe he'll sign again, we don't know. They got
holes at starting picture, they've got holes at first base. So I reckon
the Cubs are gonna take a fair few off his list. So taking Cubs
within the one one overall I like it. I like it because I think
that they've shown willingness to sign people to one year deals as well, which
I think could be could be a kind of significant thing in this draft that
you maybe not talking about the multiple players. A few players on a big
deal, but lots of small ones. Yeah, Daris, do you want
to take, of course, the second pick. Yeah, I've been back
and forth on this, but I think I am going to take my San
Francisco Giants because if you're looking for a team that's gonna make lots of little
moves around the edge, I could totally buy the Giants doing five or six,
you know, one two year deals. Obviously, I hope they go
and get Otani or Yamamoto or something like that. But to be honest,
there's a lot of based on this payroll anyway, you know, they can
spend a pretty big chunk of change, and I don't think getting one of
those guys is going to preclude them from going out and doing some other work.
You know, the rotation needs some help. To be honest, there's
not a lot of certainty in the position player group. I just think that
there's loads of room to add at pretty much any spot. On this team.
So yeah, I think I feel fairly confident that the Giants are going
to make some moves. Whether the Giants fans will be happy with them is
a different issue, But I think they're going to make several free agent acquisitions.
If I had picked either of those two picks, the Giants would have
been who I would have probably gone with first. I think they fit this
draft perfectly of how they've behaved over the last few years, bringing in some
older players and trying to get the best out of them that we've seen in
the past. So I think that's a good pick to go for. And
so now I have two picks. So now I think I'm going to take
maybe a little bit of a field one and a one a bit more of
a banker. So this three and four doesn't really matter, as I have
two picks in a row, but I'm going to take the Detroit Tigers as
because well, I'm already banking more one. I've already got a point there,
boys, and you don't neither of you who've got a point yet,
But no, I think very much. So obviously, them signing Maida gives
like an idea of like what where they're at for this offseason already, I
think there are similar players in that territory. I think the the al Central
is eminently winnable that with a few additional players and how their sequens in the
latter half of their season progressed, they can get ahead of Cleveland easily and
not get far away from I think Minnesota with a couple of trades and some
bigger trades, they can actually stand a chance. So I think they're definitely
one of those teams that have the gaps. I think all of that infield
probably could be replaced, but some of them are the young players that that
are going to progress. And yes, I still think that they would probably
want, not necessarily some starting pictures, but some of that that bottom end
relief I think would be where they're going to basically try and beef up their
squad. So sports from either of yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a
very tiger Z list in that there's a couple of biggies on there because they
will blow some cash on on some some options. But again, you look
at that bottom half and you think a lot of the infielders on there are
upgrades and what they currently got. So I think the list plays to the
Tigers' needs. So I think that that is a very good shout. Okay,
and so with my with with pick number four of my my two picks
in a row. I don't know whether this is left field or not,
but I think it is. I'm going to say the Red Sox because I
think I'm not certain that they're going to I'm still not certain they're going to
spend the money, but I feel that they're one of those teams that might
just dip their toes in in multiple places to try and kind of work their
way back up in that division. I don't know if they're I don't know
enough about how the Red Sox are running right now to determine, like if
they are in regal mode or not, whether that means that they're not they're
not going to touch this free agent market or not. But I think that
they if they were smart, they should basically get a load of free agents
on one year deals and if they do well, flip them for prospects in
the middle of the season. So that's why I'm going to go for the
Boston Red Sox with pick number four. Darness your thoughts, Yeah, they
have sort of I feel like They made quite a few moves last off season.
They spread the money around a bit. They obviously have money, and
I think that they presumably moved on from Bloom because they wanted to accelerate this
getting back into contention. Definitely not the strongest roster they've had. Yeah,
you know, there's not a lot of certainty in that rotation, especially you
know, guys like Crawford and how could have been bouncing between the book and
the rotation. Sale could pitch twenty innings. Nick Povetter, who knows right
like you might be an ace. You might have to put him back in
middle relief again. So I could definitely see rotation upgrades. I could definitely
see something in the outfield. Yeah, there's room for the Red Sox to
make moves, and I think they've got the space to do it. So
Yeah, I like the shelt I had Red Socks very very high on my
list for that matter. I mean, looking back at last year, they
had eight eight free agents signed last year, again, a lot of them
wouldn't have made it on this list. But they should be slightly better again
this year. You know, for all the all the sackings of mister Bloom,
he has put the sort of the foundations of that franchise sort of a
little bit back on on level footing. He's made some shrewd moves to kind
of shore up what's coming up in the next couple of years. So yeah,
I think that they would be ready and with the with the media market
there, they're not going to hang around. I reckon They're going to go
straight into it. Okay, Harris, give me an ex pick. Yeah,
I've bounced back and forth on this, but I'm going to take the
Dodgers. We've got one on the board already with Jason Haywood. It's possible
that they just blow their remaining payer off space on No Tinney, but that
rotation is a little bit, a little bit yikes right now with who knows
what's happening with Kersher and when he'll be back. Obviously got Buder coming back
from Tommy John and then it's yeah, kind of Bobby Miller and a bunch
of other not very experienced guys. So I think they could make up grades
here. Yeah. My concern would be, yeah, they make that one
big move and then not a lot else. But yeah, I think worst
case scenario, I'm getting two points here, and it wouldn't shock me if
there was three or four with a couple of the starting pitchers coming off here
as well. Yeah, I think they might try and pick up somebody from
the outfield perspective as well that might fit this list. Yeah, well,
they're like Dodgers signing like young Holy and show her Tani and just that's there.
That was that off season expenditure, Like that'll be a pretty amazing addition
to the team. Yeah, you'd take that with you. I think this
would probably be okay with that. Yeah, and it turns out that they
add like Marcus Stroman and whit Merrifield. It's like you realize that probably two
of them will actually turn out to be very good. Rob your turn picks,
My turn picks, now do it. I could go very safe here.
There's still a couple on the board who are sure fire they're going to
go for a few and then it gets a bit iffy. But so okay,
I'm going to start with the New York Mets. I don't think he
can hold himself back. I reckon for all of the Yeah, we're going
to have a down year. We're going to slow it down a little bit.
I don't think he's going to do that. I think I think he
just wanted rid of those two big old contracts I think as a slight thrust
thrust change for the Mets. But I'm mister Cohen's not going to stop there.
I reckon it's it's it's going to be money flowing out the doors even
further. And yeah, we're going to see maybe maybe even you'll do the
same thing again, get a couple of old veterans that he can can flip
at the deadline if it's not going very well in order to purchase some more
purchase some more prospects. But I can't see past. Mister Cohen just sat
there on his hands. It's not going to happen. Yeah, I think
when he came out explicitly and was just like, well, I didn't buy
this team to make a profit or whatever, and after one of a bit
seasons, I don't think he's going to really go like, yeah, you
know what, I changed my mind. It's like, I think, obviously
they seem to be in on the market for Yamamoto. Obviously we don't know
how much that's happening or not. But yeah, I don't disagree with them
probably being quite active. They do have gaps, I think obviously from that
starting that starting pitching position, and probably some gaps in the outfield. They
probably actually have one of the best infields in baseball, but the outfield,
and that's starting pitching. Line is that if you want to win, there's
some work to be done, agreed, there is? Yeah, yeah,
I mean you look at after Senger. You know, Quintan has had a
good career, but he's going to be thirty five. Didn't get many innings
out of him last year, Garry Lakzy, It's like, yeah, they're
not relying on a lot here. I think you're gonna want to back up
Senger with some more reliable innings, you know, maybe go get a Jordan
Montgomery. I think that would be a nice fit here, to be honest,
some bit of bit of stability and a rotation that hasn't got a lot
of innings under its spelt. And yeah, the money is always going to
be there. It doesn't matter how far past the luxury tax they blow,
does it? So I think you're probably safe with a few points there,
thank you. Safety, That's what I'm after. I'm just trying very much
not to embarrass myself, and two picks in I think I've done okay first
two rounds. Yeah, okay, right, my next pick then I'm gonna
in New York and to stay in New York and take the Yankees for very
similar reasons in that there's an awful lot of money going on there. They've
got a little bit of a bashing for not spending the way that we would
think the Yankees are going to spend in recent years. We've got an aging
broken gian Carlos Stanton who's not playing any outfield at this point. We've got
starting pitching, which really badly let them down last year. I think the
Yankees are are going to see this as a chance to restamp their authority,
not only on New York with the with their neighbors, but also in the
Al East, which they've looked poor in. So yeah, Yankees are my
next pick. I don't think they've got to spend money, like it's not
even like they can't pretend that, like they're a team that doesn't spend money,
like it just doesn't work in their market. Like obviously the Mets failed
with spending their money last year. But if the Mets spend money again,
this year and are successful, then the Yankees don't. Cashman's done surely does
well, you would think so, but it does seem somewhat invincible in that
position. Obviously has a great relationship with the Steinbrenners. Or maybe Boon's done
if Cashman isn't, Yeah, I would expect Boone to go first. I
mean, you know, at the end of the day, they still had
a winning record, so it's not like they cardinalsed it. But yeah,
you know they're currently I think starting for Il and Pereira in the outfield,
not what division winning team is looking for. Michael King looks great, but
I don't know how he's going to hold up over a whole season. Carlos
Regan again might get nothing, So there's there's room for upgrades here. And
yeah, Yankees fans are going to be mad if they don't sign a couple
of guys on this list. And Cashman's got that swagger at the moment as
well, hasn't he The way he's being in front of the press right now
like that, there is a man who knows he's about to have a huge
water cash to blow in a minute. So I reckon, I reckon,
He's got You could see the confidence oozing out of him here comes from you
know, he's always already got Tony one foot through the door. Maybe who
knows. Yeah, it's one of those ones where you just like you think
it's got to happen, but it hasn't really happened over the last few years,
apart from obviously resigning Judge. So Darius your third pick? Yeah,
a few options here, I think who do I want to go with?
So I'm trying not to focus on teams that I think want to be good,
because some of them just don't have that many spots to upgrade. But
you've also got to focus on the teams who aren't just going to shop off
the list, which I'm looking at a few here and thinking, yeah,
you're just not going to pick any of these top fifty, are you?
Let's have give me Arizona. I'm going to keep it in our West.
Pay rolls not very high. They've obviously nearly got there this season, and
I think there's obviously some room in several spots that made the trade for Suarez
already. But I think this is still incomplete roster. We said it before
the playoffs. I think it's still pretty true. So you know, maybe
they do that via trades and things, but I think they've got room to
add starter towards the back of this rotation. I think they've got room to
upgrade to the ballpen, and yeah there's maybe room I think on the bench
as well. Certainly you could get somebody who you know, fourth outfielder type
or something be nice. I mean, imagine if they got Kevin Kim,
what defensive outfield this would be with Alec Thomas and Corbyn Carroll. I'd like
to see that. So yeah, I think they just need to that little
push. Got some exciting young players, but I would like to see them
make them upgrades. And yeah, maybe they'll go and get a Marcus Stroman
or something. I think that might be a nice fit. Oh yes,
that takes you three for three from the NL West the Darius obviously knowing your
knowledge, Well, yeah, there is a bit of that, like Aurse.
So we've got this arms race going on as well, right, you
know, the Padres are already supposedly you know, they've got a roster that
could contend if they don't somehow melt down. And I think all these teams
rockies aside of harbor intentions of competing, So I think there is that pressure
within the division for them all to do something. Oh yeah, definitely another
team that I had as like as contentions for are they wanting to improve on
last year and knowing that doing that has to be buying players, which is
always that difficult thing, Like there's a couple of teams just have them.
This is the thing, Like there are a couple of other teams that I'm
I'm thinking need to improve on last year and buying players would do that,
but I just don't think they'll actually do it, which is then it's difficult.
Like there are we'll probably talk about them as we kind of get to
them, which we go with that. You've left me with either around the
conundrum now of like the teams that I know are willing to spend, but
I don't think have many gaps or some of these teams in the middle that
my aren't willing to spend but could pick up a few of these players.
So I think a team I really don't like many of these options now now,
No, but there's there's no one that's jumping out to me, like
to me like we haven't made them like a Glaring like mister Glaring team so
far. So I'm going to take I'm gonna say the Blue Jays. I
think that similar to kind of what Darius is saying for the the NL West,
there's an arms race in the Al East as well, Like they've got
to improve, like I think they need, they need some better pitching.
I think it might be come from a relief perspective. I think they could
be quite aggressive in that reliever market, which we do have, like some
one to go here. Obviously it's only the top of the top, and
I think they do need to kind of pick up like another actual decent outfielder
or somebody more to kind of go around the edges. Like I would say
that they would need like a third baseman obviously do they just try and resigned
like that would seem to be like a fairly easy thing to go with.
So it's not the most not the most enticing pick, but I will take.
Yeah, I will take the Toronto Blue Jays with my third round pick.
I did consider them. They've got the big market, they've got the
holes. It's just something about you know, they've they've struggled to sign free
agents in the last few years. They've been that team where we've heard the
Blue Jays are in and then they weren't. I mean other than the Giants
of course, who'd been the ultimate team to try and do that Us and
Judge. But after that, the Blue Jays, it seems to be a
lot of them trying to get guys and then they're not wanting to do it
because, you know, moving north of the border apparently is moving to the
moon. Who knows. So I didn't have Blue Jays high on my list,
but I did consider them because there is some logic to it. Ptstarius,
Yeah, I don't disagree with you about the raid spots. To be
honest, it feels like, yeah, Kleirmyra and Chapman leaving creates a couple
of pretty clear holes they need to fill. So it is just one of
those will they will they shop on this list or not? I think,
yeah, they could be a team the shops further off this list that's hits
in that like fifty to one hundred territory and tries to kind of get a
load of players. Yeah, because if it's not Chapman, then where are
they going the third base help? Yeah, they're not taking timer Candelorio.
Are they that's just not an upgrade, I do think so then yeah,
is it is it a trade or something or do they just go with,
yeah, the cheap option and try somebody from the miners, see how it
goes. Yeah, like a lot of the top teams as well, there's
an outfield gap. I think that could be filled by a few of the
better outfielders that are available, but we just don't know where some of those
are going. Like just hilarious to bring ti Oscar Hernandez back or whatever I
have to, But yeah, so maybe that's a little bit more left field.
I think I'm just going to take another team that spends and it is
hot off success but needs pitching. So I'm going to take the Texas Rangers
next. I think obviously they have potentially one of the best like hitting lineups
one deny in baseball, but that pitching looks questionable for another season. So
if they want to try and to push this and know that like Houston and
Seattle or are probably going to be competitive, and obviously the AL is competitive
thanks to the East, I think they definitely need to target these better pitching
options like this could be all pitching options and no like positional players been picked
up here. But I think there's a lot that can improve from choosing some
of these ar thing pictures that are in that kind of thirty to forty like
region. Give them some more and some better depth. Yeah, you can,
you can look certainly if you look again, you as I said with
the Tigers earlier, there's there's an element of this list really working for them.
If you look at that sort of lower third of the lso lower half
really of the of the list. You got your empty your Clevengers, your
lorenz Ands, your your Manaias, and you start thinking those those could could
kind of fit quite nicely for for what's going on in Texas at the moment.
So yeah, I would agree it's a decent pick. He need DH
two. Well why why at Langford is going to be up pretty soon,
I think, and that's going to take care of that particular issue. I
would say, Okay, Darius, your fourth pick San Diego or Colorado.
I'm going to be honest, I'm pretty attempted to take the Padres because a
free agent signing. There's a lot of gaps on this roster, a lot
a lot of gaps, Like I mean, you look at this, look
in the financing too, Matt Matt Waldron, pedro Vela, Jay Grom.
This is these are guys projected to be in their starting rotation. Like this
is not good for the Padres if they they're trying to keep this contention window
going. Well, I'm taking the Padres. I've convinced myself. I don't
think they're going to go big. You know, I don't need them to
spend a lot of money. But do they go shopping around? Do they
sign a Maniah or a Junis or Michael Waker? You know, I could
see the Padres doing that kind of thing, because they do. They've got
more holes to fill than most of the contending teams, I think. And
again you look at like this bench. You know that Matt Campeter signing was
a flop. They don't have anything really to back up this starting it's not
even a starting nine. Really, I think, you know it's Matt Batton
and Jose as a car. Yeah, it's they traded away all the prospect
depth. Really, it's apart from Jackson Merrill. So yeah, I do
think the Padres need to make three four additions to this team, and maybe
they don't all come from this list, but I could see at least a
couple of the back end, you know, low cost deals to keep things
going. And Rob Mains says that the fifteen million dollar loan might not mean
anything at all. Oh and trust I trust Rob when he when it comes
to a financial matters. So I don't think any of that means anything that
they're like they're going to look out on money. I just think that there.
I think they're raised on debta right now. Is they've got they want
to flip, seemingly Soto, which means to and they have to think free
like salary space to get anybody new. So it's kind of obviously reading the
rumors today, it's Tyler Klasnow and Randia Rose arena for Juan Soto if to
believe the fact that supposedly a Rosa Rainer is up for trade bait today according
to some of the reporters in the MLB Rumorville. So I see the Pads
doing these kind of trades instead of signing players. But I think they could
do the trade and then sign the players at the bottom of this list and
with like three or four of them, So it could be if it works,
it might not be wrong. I agree in that I don't think the
financing thing actually means, you know, they have finance issues. I think
that's possible to do with people passing away. But also I think that the
interesting thing about that is the fact that we heard about that, because I
would imagine these financing deals happen all the time because it's about liquidity of funds
rather than actually the value of these franchises. I think the fact we we
heard about it was was then trying to play the pr game and oh no,
we need to cut funds. I think that's where they are prepping us,
soft prepping us for their little teared down I think that what's happened there,
and I think you're right. I think you're right. They're gonna they're
gonna trade away to try and get a little bit of relief on that salary.
The rob the turn is back to you. Really that was quick?
Good lord? Okay, Right. I still think there's a couple of teams
here that are genuine picks. Again, looking at what we've got for free
agents this year, very very picture heavy. Who needs pitching, Nobody more
than the Cardinals absolutely got to hit some pitching in there. So I really
do think the Cardinals are going to step onto this list. They're not big
normally on the free agent market, but they've found themselves somewhere this last year
that they don't normally find themselves. So I'm all over the Cardinals as my
next pick. What's that number number twelve so far? I think yes.
My question to that, Rob is, do you realize the Cardinals already signed
three starting pitchers, two of them that aren't on this list exactly, But
they need they need the relievers too, you know. It's it's it's the
whole, the whole kitten kerboodle there. So I wasn't wear I wasn't wear
a three. I thought it was only two. But so that's slightly dentedy.
But uh yeah, they've got to get a big one on there as
well. I'm sure of it. They've got too. They've got to go
up to Darius. I don't think I'm starting in real stars, but I
could see I could see a reliever from the lower reaches of this list going
on there. Yeah, maybe they get like a like a junius guy,
somebody who can be the swing man for when Steven Matts gets injured, because
Steven Matts will get injured that that could that could be a fit and you
get a point already for that episodes. Yes, yeah, yeah, it's
not going to be the worst pick because there are going to be ones that
they are going to get zero. So yes, absolutely a fourth round pick
picking up one point. I imagine there's going to be something in this some
one of these top twelve teams that actually does nothing shock of horrors, but
maybe does a trade which answers like most of their things. Just on a
side note, we do we think that Sat Louis might put out the oldest
rotation in baseball history or I don't know the numbers, but I have to
imagine it's going to be a I don't know the numbers either, but it
just crossed my mind of like the fact that what they've signed average age thirty
six. That's still young. There'll be like some dead ball ever where it
was like three guys and there were all forty four or something like they always
three three hundred and thirty innings. Yeah, to say post segregation, just
to to kind of give us some sort of mod Yeah, maybe like the
oldest opening day rotation is something to throw back. But obviously rather. I
don't know if you're mini googling that, but you do have another choice to
okay around, I was trying to look clever and then then yeah, rabbit
holes. No, okay, So I'm going to take the Orioles for very
similar reasons. The Orioles are there, they are big, they they've got
that light. The light is great, it's fantastic. It's a it's a
it's a done, done system. What we need is some pitching for for
Baltimore. Again, we needed the front and we needed the back end of
the games. So the Orioles have got to spend some money at some point.
Got to got to got to spend some money at some point. So
I reckon, I reckon, this is the year finally they're going to have
to do it. I think they're the Rais and not the Astros. I
just don't think. I think that they're the raisindetra Is not to spend.
I think we've they've they've they've talked up that like it's not the time for
them to spend. It's not the time for them to spend. And then
they've got a young team that's doing it without them spending. And now they
can say, oh, we didn't need to spend, So you're not wrong
in what you're suggesting they shouldn't do. Rob. I just don't think the
front officip front off this is and the ownership have that mentality. I can
see Junius going there. You can see that Hector Nearis could back, I
could buy I could buy juniors. Yeah, Frankie Montask potentially. Yeah,
this is this is the end of the market where the Oriols could shop.
Yeah. Yeah, I've I've stayed away from them because of all the teams
that I did, the death shots for the Oriols were the hardest to fit
their existing position players into the playing time available. Yeah, because I was
like, I just I cannot find like Jackson Holidays coming up, and Kobe
Mayo is going to come up, and it's like where the hell are they
going to play all these guys. So I just don't think they actually are
going to have any room to add any position players. They're already sorted,
so that it is like, yeah, you hope that they add two or
three pictures, which they need, and they're not going to be spending on
the field, so you know, they they you know, the picture in
baseball right, So, yeah, there is their space. But do you
think that they might trade some of those younger that is that is the downside,
and to get the pictures instead of like paying for it. In the
free agent world, yeah, but yeah, we're running out of teams to
pick here that are very attractive options. No, no, no, no,
definitely they've dropped this far from a like contender. Yes, payroll room,
yes, need, Yes, they've got all the things you want,
except for the GM who actually wants to spend the money. I'm more inclined
to think that they'll trade for Shane Bieber giving up hitting prospects than they will
buy your free agent. But that's now more proyabe my idea of what Cleveland
will do than maybe an idea of what Boston will do Boston Baltimore will do.
Okay, Darius, your fifth round pick? Yeah, starting to get
harder. Now I am going to take someone not in the NL West the
shocking move. I'm going to take the Miami Marlins to do like a range
of those stupid low costs Where are you going with this Marlins type moves where
we all say, was you know, not really actually going to make you
any better? You know, we had the Gene Tigura move last year.
Who else they signed that was a waste of time? Yeah, you know
the type of Marlins move anyway, Yes, there's there's not a lot of
this Rossy. You're not looking up and down this going and while he's blocking
an acquisition being made, the bullpen could do with work. They definitely need
a couple more heres if they're actually going to standard a chance in hell of
competing in this division, which they don't really, but I've got to assume
they want to try. So yeah, I don't think they're going to be
splashing out on Otani or Bellinger or Snail or anything. But I could buy
them, you know, ten million here, twelve million there, shopping at
the bottom of this list. That makes perfect sense. It'll be interesting to
see what the new like front office team does, like how they fit is
a raised background. So maybe that was a foolish pick. But yeah,
that's it's the only reason why did go for ball more earlier. Like you're
they're perfect fit, but like the ownership that doesn't go for me. Okay,
so we're now really down to two teams. I have two teams that
I think spend money, but I don't know if they're really going to spend
more money, and then we're just into like a whole world of who is
actually going to in that mid territory take a gamble. So I would say
at this point we've done an awful lot of saying that the bottom end of
the list is going to they're going to shop at the bottoment of the list.
We haven't really pointed anybod who's gonna shop at the top end of the
list. So these guys are going to fall somewhere, and maybe it's one
of these these iffy teams are going to take one big guy rather than a
lot of these little guys. Yeah, So I don't know, like there's
there's that they're not to know. I might as well name names because it's
not really going to change too more of things. Basically, to me,
the asteris in the Phillies. I think I've got one big signing in them.
I don't imagine them like lots of lots of small things to add to
their team. I think they're more gonna like Philly's a sap I think from
a pitching position, which is a bizarre thing to say, but I think
there's definite work for that outfield at least two, but I think they're more
likely to go big than go like multiple on the small. But I think
they're still more likely than the Astros, who I think could actually still need
a couple of pieces. So I'm going to take the Phillies with my first
pick, as I think they might just do a couple of they might do
multiple deals. And obviously there's been some willingness to spend money, which is
always makes a massive difference. So I'm still not certain how much they're going
to add. I kind of think that almost all of that outfield could or
should be replaced, so I think they could make at least two free agent
signings there. So for a fifth round pick, I'm probably happy if that
turns out to be true. Fair enough, I mean, Kim I to
Philly has been rumored year after year after year, and it it's still a
very good fit. So there's a good chance. Yeah, platoon inm with
Rojas and center. That would be a good defensive move here. Well,
I think then what is potentially the first fully left field move. I'm going
to take the Cincinnati Reds next. I looked at them, and then I
thought about Castelini, and I was like, no, this is more on
that pure bottom end of that, like pitching like Jacob Junis, like Frankie
Montas or whatever that like, this is what they could do. I see
Heimer Candelario or armed Rosario being being a Cincinnati Red. It was like,
I just I don't know, like every other team, I don't think they're
signing an infield there. That's that's the one thing they don't need to know.
Absolutely not. But there's not a lot of them out there. Yeah,
it's probably I think they probably need to catch it. Are they signing
in this top list? Is Mitch Garver? Probably not. Now at more
of this, I realized he's a catcher who you want to play eighty percent
at the time at the age, so yeah, could be. But yeah,
well I've made your bed now, I have made my bed in it.
The more I look at it, the more I think that's wrong.
But I don't like. I don't like any of them that have left.
So I don't think there's any nice picks from here until Darius says something and
I realize how much of an idiot I've been, Darius, who is your
expert? One left? As far as I'm pre saying there's one left it's
Atlanta because A you get a point already, and B they've got nine spots
on the forty man after they've made those deals shipping off for the Dross to
the White Sox, et cetera. And yes, maybe they just put a
bunch of prospects or they go mad in the raw five draft. But I
got to think that one of those forty one spots is going to go to
a free agent siding. And they don't need a lot, but I think
they could do with something on the bench, to be honest, that would
probably be a spot they could upgrade. And you know, maybe that's that
Tim Anderson rehab, you know, something like that, just somebody low costs
towards the bottom here. Maybe they go out and get I don't know,
somebody. Maybe they go and get Brandon Belt to take the d h at
bats against writing something. You know, they could they could do something like
that. I know it's not a great fit with those, you know,
but I could buy them just doing one more thing, one more starting picture
to sort of solidify that rotation, which is kind of their only real starting
week spot. And I've already gotten a point, and you know it's my
fifth round pick, so that's fair. Yeah, I mean there's probably space
for one of the big boys in the starting pitchers to go in there as
well, somewhere, I guess. But yeah, the starting line off is
locked and loaded, and they are spending a decent chunk of money already.
But we also never hear anything out of Atlanta until it's done. So Anthopolis
is going to be working on something. Maybe that's a trend to fill some
of these forty month spots. But he's up to something, is what I'm
saying. And maybe that's something is signing more free agents. Yeah, I
just don't. I don't know if I just don't see them as a free
agent signing team, whether that's like no, I don't. I don't think
they're going to land Yamamoto or Batania or anything. But they just signed Lopez,
so yeah, they could go out and get somebody else. No,
They're they're definitely like I had them as spend It's I just basically though,
I know that they have that gaps on the roster, but I think they
already have one hundred win team, Like, yes, so agreed, do
they need to spend like I don't think they do, which obviously this is
always the point of how teams operate is the Yes, I think that reserve
might be there, but I was more hoping for a Rule five kind of
yeah, Rule five mania where they pick people and try and flip people to
other people to get some people that aren't Rule five dependent. But yes,
that is the pick, Rob, Do you have two on the turn again?
Well, so we are scraping the barrel now, so that that caveat
in mind when I'm now picking these these are not teams I think are going
to do much. I think these are teams that are probably going to do
one and I think I think the best option on there at the moment is
the Twins, who I think are going to be shopping middle to upper middle
range starting pictures. I can see a Yearlito or a Stroman going there,
something like that. So I reckon the Twins. They've got to replace Gray,
So I think, you know, I think there's there, there's there's
something in the Twins. The Twins. The Twins are sitting on top of
that division. There's a lot of the teams clipping at their ankles now,
so I think the Twins need to do to do one more one more picture.
Yeah, Like I think I don't know, this is probably my al
central pessimism coming in, but I don't think they need to do anything to
win the division, so that means they won't. So if Detroit start to
do things, they might react. But yeah, that's I think. I
think you're right that, like they do have some elements to kind of do
in they hand showed some relatively reason to spend obviously career or whatever. But
is that offset I mean, they're not going to jump into that market again
thor stereous. Yeah, we saw them, you know, not really do
much at the deadline and get proven right because nobody else had anything. I
agree with Rob that there are places that they could improve here. But do
they just see this as will walk to the division? It's possible, I
do, like you know a lot of their rotation, but I think you're
probably in trouble if you're like counting on Chris Paddick to pitch thirty games,
for example. So and there's a couple of pretty effie ballpen arms in there
as well. I think they could do with an upgrade there. Buxton is
who knows, So yeah, agree with the need and also agree with the
will they actually bother because they just might get into the playoffs and see what
happens, right right, I think I think there are literally two left on
this list that you would think might actually do something, and then I think
the rest is all off the bottom of the list. So I am garner
go with the Astros. H Yeah, I mean it's tough to point exactly
where it is they're going to do that upgrade, but you know, they
do have a bit of a bit of cash in that team to burn when
they need to so, and they are getting a bit old, so yeah,
maybe maybe something will happen there. This isn't this isn't. The Astros
are crap and they never spend. It's just sort of what would you do
with the list that is open to them? So yeah, I think,
you know, maybe Snell could end up wearing wearing orange. They could probably
stand to use another Top of the Ranger starter in there. But other than
that, I mean, Mitch Garver is not going there. He's the wrong
guy for that team. So they do need to catch her, but probably
not off this list. That's going to be through trade. So yeah,
I'm gonna go with the Astros for lack of a better option. Yeah,
we're at that point of the draft. We'd discussed at some point whether we
wanted to draft the whole team, but I think we might as well because
it's it's fun to kind of really talk about the worst of the worst as
well as the best of the best. But yeah, I think they'll do
something which is more than I would say, very good team then, Darius,
who are going to get a You're going to get them. It's interesting
what Rob thinks that one more good team is that should be spending one more
team I'm going to take because it's on brand the Angels. They've got a
bit of power of space. They're claiming that they're not throwing the towel in
just because Otani's left, And by god, do they need some pitching as
it ever, the Angels need some pitching. They'll need some cover when Mike
Trout gets hurt again. Sad face, And yeah, I just you know,
you don't look at this Angel's roster and go, oh, there's no
where to upgrade here. So yeah, you know, I think I think
they could spend forty fifty million, might not being very good players, but
yeah, I don't see why not. They've tried boom and bust, haven't
they. And then they finally did what we all thought they should do and
tried go for a bit more middle of the range, and that didn't work
either. So I think they should just just stand away and leave free agency
alone. It's clearly not working for them. They're obviously bringing their own prospects
through good clearly as and working for them. How are you And if you
don't have a good players to trade, how can you trade this pig?
Is basically I'm assuming that Perim hasn't just given up, which he may have
done. I can't. I can't be sure at this point after this season,
I would feel like giving up a miserable year in Itinese left, you
know, has got that vibe. But and sort of if you remove the
context of them being and the Angels, I think you would look at this
team and pay roll and so yeah, they need to make some free agent
scytings. So yeah, Like I think they fit in the same position as
the team that I'm going to say next, which is going to be the
Seattle Mariners. Like they basically if they want to compete, they've got to
spend like they're at that position where they didn't do that last year and they
failed to make the postseason because of it, as far as I'm concerned,
So I think they're the last team that kind of fits that perspective, that
kind of like outlook compared to kind of what we have left otherwise. So
that's where I go with my first one of my two picks. I don't
think from Rob's nodding and maybe harm I think that was his last team that
like should be pity. Yeah, it gets really ugly after this. Yeah,
I just don't. I don't trust them because we've the last offseason saying
make some moves, upgrade your lineup, Jerry, and it was like,
no, I'm not going to do it, and then they missed the playoffs
by game what So the complete counter to that, like this might I don't
know if this will be weird pick or not, but I think the Royals
will sign one or two of these free agents because I think they've shown that
they're willing to spend on a few players and flip them in the summer in
like halfway through the season if they're doing well. So I'm going to take
Royals next, just because I think they could end up with one or two
of these people and flipping them. Not that they're trying to win anything or
do anything like that, but they've been obviously, they've been shown to be
willing to spend some money, Bennett Endy and take a contract that maybe nobody
wants or like to do somebody to flip them. So I'm going to take
the Kansas City Royals for my I think that would be my third to last
pick, the twenty second pick of the draft. Yikes, Darius. Just
to people, if they've not been concentrating and listening in briefly, give an
idea of what is left. We have the Tampa Bay ray we have the
Chicago White Sox, the peven Guardians, the Oakland Athletics, the Washington Nationals,
the Milwaukee Brewers, the Pittsburgh Pirates, and the Colorado Rockies. Darius,
who's signing a free agent? This is surprisingly easy for me, or
maybe it's not surprising. I'm taking the Nationals because of these teams. The
I've got the reputation of like a team that actually spends some money, and
I think you can see there's some chinks, you know, some light at
the end of the tunnel. There's a long way off, I think still,
but you know, they've got some exciting prospects coming up. I think
maybe they do a bit of a Texas and they sign somebody maybe a bit
higher than you're expecting, and everyone goes to what are they doing, and
then in a couple of years, when that guy's like two years into his
seven year deal and they're actually decent, you go, oh, yeah,
that was actually a pretty good idea. So I think they've got the room.
They've got loads of room, and they're not a team where I'm just
like, no, they don't actually make free agent signings, which is true
of at least three of the remaining on this list. So yeah, I
think it would have been probably one of the next ones. So they're not
in my bottom tier. So no, no, no, same Rob.
You get two before your team, These are going to be pretty okay.
I'm going to take the Pirates. The Pirates do, for right or wrong,
sign occasional free agents. It feels like the year after someone's stopped being
good, they have a year somewhere and then they go to the Pirates afterwards
to kind of finish their career. So you know, maybe Tim Anderson ends
up in Pittsburgh, you know, something like that, you know, or
somebody right at the very end of their career. There's a chance. So
Merrifield a Merryfield destination. Bang on, Absolutely, yeah, I can see
I can see him there. Brandon Belt like, that's got that's got Pirates
written all over it. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go for the
Pirates. That's that's like the Carlos Santana signing of this. Yeah, exactly,
Brandon Belt to the Pirates and they need the first base d H as
well. Okay, Yeah, there's not much to say about these teams,
so I think it's it's a reasonable they spend money, which is better than
I think three of these teams. So yeah, that's there's nothing to go
with there. So with your second to last pick, rob before what it's
basically your last pick because you're getting thirty team raise. Yeah, oh man,
this sucks. Like I've got a choice now between team that should have
been good or team that occasionally does backshit crazy stuff and might just turn up.
Yeah, I'm good, I'm gonna do it. I'm taking the Rockies.
I'm taking the Rockies because occasionally they do iculousness. So yeah, it's
it's an out there but you know, we've seen a couple of big names
go that way for reasons unknown, and you know, maybe they'll just have
another toke and awake will come a new interesting free agent, somebody famously Colorado
it is legal to smoke marijuana. And look at this now looking up and
down the list though, I mean, they're quite famous for it, and
there might be some players on the list who have some infamy for it too.
So hey, you know what, maybe that's my my bold prediction is
that a very high ranking outfielder we will go to the Rockies. Was that
the Rockies will be like, we won't sign any free agents, or they'll
give like Jelaire, like six years that kind of thing exactly. Yeah,
could be the Rockies. I can't throw them away. I want to quickly
double back, Rob Was it pun intended when you said a high ranking player?
But many many ways that works actually, So yeah, I mean it'd
be great to see Beninger in course, wouldn't it. Nobody said Bellinger,
I don't know what you're talking about. That's very liable. What isn't in
the States. It's fine, So I'm the only reason why I'm disappointed you
made that pick because you took it away from Darrius Dorius. Darius having the
entire als to himself, he might have gone for that in his next pick,
but if you wanted to bank that, he should have taken them over
the Nationals. So he missed out on the opportunity. So Darius left with
Famous five. Ye famous five. I'm taking the Brewers. They are boring
as hell in their free agent signings, But will they find somebody on this
list who fits somewhere as a platoon guy or you know, Bryce Hoskins like
they've Jake Bowers is their first basement right now, like the British and Simon
Skins for sure, loot Dingers in that park. To be honest, they
might be in a like we need to flip guys at the deadline situation as
well. I could buy them, like let's sign this guy for a year
and if we're in contention, then we'll keep them and if we're not all
trade him. They're in that position. Obviously they always figure out with the
pitching, but right now the rotation does not look great without Woodruff, So
yeah, they've obviously got room in various spots to add, and they're not
going to spend a lot of money, but I could buy them making the
little tinker moves around the edges and trying to compete in what is still quite
a winnable division. Okay, so yeah, I don't think there's anything more
to say with that. I think I'm going to quickly say that with my
second to last pick, I'm going to take the Chicago White Fox. I'm
not certain why I'm really picking these over the other three teams, but I
genuinely believe they are more likely than the other three teams to sign someone.
So, and this really comes from a Cleveland fan, the White Socks,
who basically shown that they want to flip maybe their best players and do nothing,
are more likely to sign somebody than the Cleveland Guardians are. I think
it's more around me disliking the other three teams more so. Cleveland signed a
couple of free agents last year they basically bombed. I just don't think it's
what they're gonna do. I think they're gonna flip Biber to try and and
they're perfectly happy with their young pitching prospects. They're going to come through.
So I don't think Cleveland are going to do anything Tampa Bay. When's the
last time they signed a free agent that was like more than like ten million?
Last Yearlin is like, so that was that was weird? Odd?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a Yeah. I shot
myself in the foot there, but yeah. And then Oakland obviously they signed
Trevor May last year, which was like he probably would have maybe just about
made the bottom of this list last year. I don't know, he probably
actually might have been outside the top fifty last year. So I don't know
other than that. So obviously I'm going to take the White Sox first,
and then I am sat here with the Rays, the Guardians or the A's
and what I might as well back my own team and hope that something good
comes off it, Like I might as well take Cleveland and if we sign
people, I'll be happy on multiple pot guards that at least like we did
okay on this. So there we go, Darius. Now you have the
last decision. While you're going to take the Oakland or the Tampa Bay Rays
a top fifty free agent, give me the I'm surprised Oakland are even bothering
to put out a baseball team anymore. To be honest, that's where we're
at. Maybe they bring back like Montasse, try and get some sort of
you know, return to the club vibes. I don't know, Like he's
not going to spend any money, is he? Why would he spend any
money? That's not the point of this exercise anymore. And yeah, the
Rays are actually still trying to win baseball games. Maybe they won't do it
with any of the guys on this free agent list, but I at least
believe that they are trying to win baseball games. The only way the aai's
signing anybody on this list is if we get to like February and somebody's unsigned
and they're like, yeah, I'll take five million to come and play for
you for a year. But you've got to believe that that player would have
to be absolutely desperate with no other options, because why would you want to
drop yourself into that situation? Okay, so Rob, justify what I actually
I actually can in that the Athletics last year, despite being absolutely terrible,
did sign seven free agents in the run up to the season. Now,
they were not high quality free agents. That is very very clear. So
read that list job. I didn't know any of them other than Trevor May.
But there were seven free agents, so you know what, maybe maybe
something on here drops really really low. No, no, they're not going
to go on the list. I'm not going to get a point for the
for the Athletics, but I might. I mean it take them over the
Rays. Jace Peterson, led Mis Diaz was on there. Yeah, I'm
trying to think who else they signed. They're solidly sort of seventy five people.
You know, it's like somebody like Jacob Junis on the Oakland A's is
not like it's something that is like out of the they could sign like the
forty seven. I assume the front office is still trying to put out a
baseball team. It's not their fault that John Fisher is John Fisher or a.
Theyre going to get their revenge this year. Now they've got we've got
the last Vegus money. Here's like they go out and spend one hundred and
sixty million. Yeah, they need to have a good team when they it's
Las Vegas, so you know, maybe it starts here. But they have
also already like filled out a couple of their lineup spots. With Abraham,
Toro, Miguel and Deha Like I think if we had a top eighty three
agents list of the aides would still be like, no, let's go let's
go down. That's fair, okay, So what hey, that's how we've
got our lists. So what I can tell you right now is that Darius
and I are leading with two points and Rob hads one points based off how
we are based on the free agent signings that have gone on so far.
Well, obviously, try and continue to maybe chat about this as we do
the podcast over the next few weeks and maybe some of these things progressed to
see who's actually performing best. But yes, we'll get back to you when
we get to the start of the season. So before I say thank you
to Darius and Ron for joining me today, I would be it would be
remissive me if I didn't remind our listeners to have a look on the website
right now. There's been some great work being done by Brett Sewan, Charlie
and Ash as well as others. We're starting to run a series out on
my Favorite Player, so there are already some things out there looking at people
like Brandon Crawford and ANDREDN. Simmons and a few others. Obviously, we're
coming into twenty twenty four when the London series is Mets versus Phillies. We
would love to have contributors for both of those on the site posting stuff regularly
as we kind of go through that. So that would be if you are
a fan of either of those teams and you want to do that, please
do come and join us on the site. Otherwise, Darius, you've mentioned
that you've been doing some work for BP. Is there anything that's in the
works or is it more going to be part of the VP annual. Yeah,
it's all going into the annual. I'm just going to tell people to
pre order their Baseball Prospectives, Anuel, Yeah, my depth charts work will
be part of the precactive projections that go into that. But as usual,
we'll have a great essay for every time and a bunch of fantastic comments from
all our contributors. And yeah, if you just want a book that basically
come as everything you need to know about every team in the run ups of
the season, written by some truly excellent writers, then go by the annual.
It's great and which uh, which which teams. Have you been given
the chance of trying to I'm not actually doing the comments this year. I'm
just doing depth charts because it's my favorite. Just obviously, Rob, is
there going to be any posts from you in the Man that made me follow
that? Jesus Well, he's writing a whole damn book. Yeah, great,
fantastic, Rob. I'm not writing. I'm just I'm just like this
guy will play that. That's all I'm doing. Well, Actually, I
did write some stuff. There's a couple of bits up in the last few
days. I did the one half of the part of the rivalry series that's
being pushed out on the website at the moment. That's well worth of read
all the rivalries MLB. So I contributed towards the Rays against the Marlins one.
So yeah, there are some bits out there. So yeah, I'll
keep doing bits like that, hopefully awesome. I didn't write in that series
because I don't think Cleveland have a rival Me and Gav very quickly discussed should
we do a Reds and a Guardian's one, And there isn't a rivalry because
basically they haven't played each other in a competitive game really ever until the Interleague
and so if you do Jose Ramirez versus Tim Anderson, is that all?
Maybe we'll have to work out where Tim Anderson signs and then that will become
the rivalry team for the next season. But obviously, as you've said,
like you can find stuff on bat flips and nerds dot com, you'll finders
on x atlips, Underscore Nerds, and on Twitter and on Twitter is Twitter,
and on Instagram and all of that stuff. Obviously, thank you Rob
and Darius for joining me today on this little escapade. Hopefully we will be
back with the podcasts more frequently than we have been recently, and so probably
some more fun things are going to happen in the next few weeks and months.
So I hope you have enjoyed this and we'll speak to you next time.