Breaking news everybody. A final message of the Almighty to the world has come
to unite all religions under one new religion. I'm talking about a press release
that was released by the Religion by Religion News titled is God Speaking to Humankind?
The Almighty proclaims final messages to Humankind? And this was and it's basically
someone in the nineteen forties started receiving messages from spirits that had passed on about
the way the Almighty wanted the world to work and wanted and this Almighty was
actually above God and was above Satan. It was very It's really interesting,
and unfortunately, the way to solve religions is not to create another religion.
Now you just have another religion. Now you just have another problem. And
if we've got one more religion, which one are we going to follow?
You're just going to have another group of people fighting another group of people over
what's supposedly true and what's supposedly isn't true. Kelly, what do you have
to say on this topic? You know, I read this and I was
like, seriously, what the f I mean? Is this really real?
And and I really didn't know if I should take it seriously. Or not.
And then I went to the group's faith, to the group's website,
Um, it's it says it came from Supplementology, right, that's the that's
the movement Supplementology. But if you actually go to their website, they've changed
the name and it's now the Almighty's Religion for the Universe, and it's I
had so much fun over there. It's just another one of these religious doctrines
revealed through somebody channeling an angel or a spirit and it was all written down.
And now we have some books that somebody wrote this stuff down in,
but we can't talk to the people who channeled the spirits because we don't know
who they are, like with the Book of Your Rancha or the person is
now dead so we can't talk to them. And it's just it's just such
a bunch of bs to me, you know. Um, the information that
aim out of this particular book that was found by a guy who made himself
a minister actually after finding it, and he became the high priest of this
new church all because he found these books that were conveniently donated to a nonprofit
that he was volunteering it. So it's pretty pretty word thing so the doctor
Ritchie want to follow up. Yeah, it's got a historical president again.
Fifty eighty two, the Emperor at By the Great, the Great Mughal Emperor
of India, he created didn't I Lahi, which is basically a form of
religion that is supposed to in all religions, and it wasn't supposed to proselytize
either, and it was kind of within the lifetime of his child died out.
Can't think, well that might be, but there are still apparently a
few people who would here to this, this form of religion. And one
of the things that I found interested is they believe the way you can unite
religions is by saying to all of aligions of the world, all the gods
you come across, all the manifestations of the same God, but presented in
such a way that that cultural understand them, because he's impossible to properly know,
because he's so great and so almighty. I'm turned into bat Robinson,
sorry. And so he comes as an elephant god to some people, and
he comes as speaking through his angel to other people, and he comes as
the son of to other people. And of course that argument is absolute pants
so because those gods are so different that it would make no sense at all,
and also would it makes sense that those gods appear in tons fight each
for those reasons. So yeah, it's it's not a new thing, trying
to create a super religions in comfort our religions. It's also, as Aaron
will justify, not a new thing to say, I found something and it
says the truth about God. No one else can look at it, but
I've found something, and I'm just glad they didn't say that all the Hinduism
began in Americas something weird like that. I'm surprised I didn't, Sundey.
Yeah, the otherle says, so Reverend smith revelation is a significant step forward
in religion understanding and could potentially unite all religions under one batter. Yeah,
because that worked well the five hundred and sixty two times they tried before.
Right. Uh, it's uh suprematology. It still has an interesting set of
beliefs, Like like Kelly, I went to to their website and they list
there what they call the nine Norms, and it's it's quite interesting because most
of them are vague enough to be able to to include other religions, but
some of them are pretty specific. One says that God and Satan were created
by this almighty entity I would say we should call UM's. It also says
that, let me review a part of it, prayer to God in words
alone pros meaningless, which okay, fine. Um. It says men consist
of both spirit and matter, and components of matters such as the brain,
help the spirit reach a higher level of divinity. And so there's a lot
of this, you know, very vague spiritual vocabulary, but if you look
at the big picture here, it's basically the same thing that Christianity has been
doing for two thousand years, trying to include and then assimilate other cults and
other religions. It's and it's the same thing that the Koran tried to do.
The Koran says that the Bible is the previous word of Allah, and
it hasn't been understood well, so he said, okay, I need to
give them another hollybook, and that would be the Koran. And that's what
they seem to be doing here. So yeah, it's it's it's just interesting
to read because it's heavily influenced by Christianity, but kind of different. But
yeah, Aaron, you wanted to want something. Yeah, kind of carry
on with that thought is that it's really interesting that God can't seem to get
a consistent message out to the world. He seems to have the worst pr
firm in the history of the universe. Even you know, billion dollar corporations
Nike and Adidas and other intel they can get out of Apple, they can
get out a consistent message, with a consistent design, with a consistent philosophy.
But oh my gosh, God seems to be completely incapable of doing this.
We have Islam, we have Christianity, we have all the different forms
of Christianity. You'd think that when he speaks to somebody, he'd give them
the same message. Unfortunately, everyone's got a different message. And now we
have this new message where there's this new Almighty that sits above God and this
is now, this is the truth. Finally, after ten thousand, twelve
thousand years of human history, now the Almighty's finally going to set the record
straight. He's finally gonna tell us how we should live and what we should
do. That's that's not how it works. You know, if God really
wants people to know and he's really omnipotent. As a lot of religions believe,
he should be able to give the consistent message to us and have some
way to verify that what somebody is saying actually comes from him. Or maybe
instead of going through somebody, he can just give the message directly to us.
We have these things called TVs and internets and broadcasting. Maybe he should
set up a YouTube channel and you know, deliver his message that way.
That would be That would really shut down a lot of this controversy about what
we should be believing and whatnot. But unfortunately, I think God might bee
has his phone off the hook or his internet's down. I just don't he's
just unable to h to communicate. Kelly, Yeah, you know you said
that about God and PR and I get I was having such a hard time
not laughing out loud because I had this vision of God talking to a PR
exact about a new a new campaign. And it's so much good fertile comedy
ground there. But you know, I really enjoyed the website. If you
haven't changed to go check it out, you really should. It's really good
for a laugh. It's I feel like I'm so glad I got this segment
to be able to do this on nonprofits because I do work on Truth Wanted
and this is something I really want to show it objectively. Dan I think
he's going to get a big kick out of this website. One of the
things that I found about it, and I think people here have already said
it, is that there was really nothing new here. It really reminded me
a lot of Theosophy. I don't know if anybody knows about the see if
Theosophical Society that's here on the panel, but it was a movement started back
in a late nineteenth century by Madame Blovotsky, and it was basically the same
thing, trying to get all the religions together into one, except that she
was really highly steeped in the spiritualist movement that was happening at the time,
so there's a lot of spiritualism injected into it. I used to live right
by their headquarters in Weak, Illinois, and they've got a really cool library.
To go check out the Theosophical Society if you're ever in Wheaton. It's
open to the public or check it out. It's just got a lot of
woo at it. It's a fun place to check out. But yeah,
that's what I saw. Here was just a lot of this crazy stuff that
had already been said before, and it was started under Nazi occupation in one
of the Baltic states I don't remember. I think it was Estonia. I
might be wrong on that. And it seemed to me it was more like
a message of hope to these people who were living in this really horrible time
and under these horrible conditions, and it might have been a way for them
to cope with it. But it's hard to say, you know, it
really is, doctor rich I know you have more you want to add.
Yeah, well, actually, if I was going to mention theosophy, Gandhi
was a theosophist. Everyone's assumes he was a Hindu, but he wasn't.
It was actually a theosophist. He was just leaning towards the hint traditions with
theosophy later in life more Susan was a lawyer when it was young. It's
yeah, I find it's the other thing. It kind of Firstly, I
love this idea if there's an almighty who is above God, So who's above
the Almighty? Well, it's turtles all the way down. Of course,
isn't it. That's where we're going to go with this. We need to
find the biggest hurt and it's this seems to be what happens with religion if
you read David Hume's work. David Hune talks about how every religion tries to
get the biggest artist God. Look, maybe my god's bigger your God.
He can keep your God's face it that kind of thing, And this is
a game. What's happening. Yeah, yeah, your god's all well and
God, but he's actually been eath our gods. Our God's better and he's
the Almighty, and for some reason he created another god rather than doing it
all himself. And that's a bit brummish. And it's a long line of
trying to explain with multiple gods like a Manicheanism. If I pronounced that,
remember that correctly, which was Saint Augustine's original religion, which basically is there's
two gods, and one's a bad guy and one's a good guy, and
the bad guys the Old Testament god. The good guy is Jesus, who
came to us to create some kind of celestial gateway past the bad gods,
who could get to the God's Heaven, which actually makes makes a Bible make
more sense than general Christian reading because it separates this one from that one.
Don't seem to be the same guy. But I just find it it's brilliant
that these in some ways, that these things keep popping up, that you
keep having owned. By the way, what is it with the surname Smith?
Why is it Smith again? Why are these Smiths finding these dots starting?
I'm gonna think old Gustine might have been called Augustine Smithson when he sort
of created modern Christianity as we understand it, see Paul Smith, Saint Paul
Smith as well. It just seems to be a Smith thing. But it's
great. It's because this is a bit of fun. I don't think they're
going to take over American government and the world government after anytime soon, although
please visit me in the jail they create in twenty years once they've done that,
and tell me how foolish I was. But it's it's it's fodder for
fun and to look actually into the birth of religion and how religions start and
how religions fall, and how people persuade people of things based on nothing,
based on the old. I've found this, can I see? No?
Why not? Well I don't have it anymore? Why not because it's gone?
Okay, so what did you say? Say this hold? That sounds
brilliant, but I really really do want to see it? Well you can't.
Oh, but it was definitely there was yeah, definitely there. Well
it feels good to me, So I mean, yeah, it's kind of
how how often have we seen that? And I almost feel like I want
to send every religious anthropologies that I know, but I know a couple to
that website and say, check this out. I have a digging this.
You'll love this. This will be awesome. You'll love that. Cindy,
do you love that? I do? I do? And something else that
that cracks me up a little bit is that. So basically, we didn't
explain it, maybe entirely, but some people received God's voice in forty four,
and then this reverend Smith he found those books and then translated them and
then spread the message business. So I wonder what those people are we're doing
in in ninety forty four, because it seems like Europe was a little bit
busy at the time, So how did they find time to, you know,
speak with God? And then write all of this, uh and and
this this almighty didn't he have anything else to manage at the time. I
mean a lot of people were dying I think at that time. Uh.
And the only thing he had time four was speak to a couple of people
so that they can spread the message in in the seventies. That just makes
no Are you questioning God's plan? Yeah? I have to have you have
to head strike me. Yeah? What I what? I researched the source
of this. This article is from a website religious news service, and it's
basically a site that regurgitates press releases. You can pay them some money some
of our press release and they'll publish it on their website and then it gets
picked up. I'm pretty sure that this art, this probably the same article
gets republished every few years. Somebody will pay money to get it republished to
try and you know, proselyte their view and get people to follow them and
the idea behind it. You know what's a good idea. Let's get let's
bring people together and and stop fighting about this. And I can get behind
that. Let's stop fighting about this. But like I said, forming a
new religion is isn't the way to do it. You know, religion is
is faith based. There's no there's it's there's no facts, there's no science
behind it. You have to believe it just because you have to believe it.
And you know, anybody can come up and say, hey, God
spoke to me and he said this. Well, anybody can claim anything.
And unfortunately we as humans, we're biased machines. Right, we do not
see the world the way it really is. All you have to do is
see the see um, oh what are those called? I can't even remember.
But our eyes we don't see the world really the way it is.
We don't hear, we can't hear things the way the world really is.
The center of our eyes actually don't doesn't have any receptors on it. And
so but our brain takes what's miss see, takes the other things that we
see and replay and fills it in. We don't have an empty spot and
what we see. And science is all about getting rid of the biases and
find out what's true by coming up with hypotheses, by testing things and getting
rid of our confirmation biases and things like that, so that what we get
at is bias free and it's as close to the truth as we can as
we can make it. Kelly, Yeah, that you know, that's that's
really right on. Really, that's awesome. I do want to point out
that while these books were supposedly written in nineteen forty four, we don't know
that they actually were. We don't know if they're really from twenty years later
when our Reverend Smith found them found them is in the box that was donated.
So uh, it's you know, when we we we based Like I
want to say, wow, this might have been written by somebody who was
just looking for comfort in these hard times, but you know, it could
be too that it was written twenty or thirty years later. There is a
way to con people. And making this claim that it was channeled is nothing
new either. This is something that's been that's been used a lot. If
anybody knows who Edgar Casey was, he was supposedly channeling spirits and they were
writing the stuff down. I mentioned the Book of Your Rancher earlier, which
was also channeled spirits, and it's just it just kind of it kind of
smells of a con to me. And I don't want to say that it
is, but it really does. And I yeah, I'm having a really
hard time saying that it's real, and that the people who are behind it
even believe that it's real. Doctor Rich, Yeah, I agree with you.
That's the other possibility as well, and that's it was written back in
the faulties, but then missing the page at the beginning that says this account
is purely fictitious, and any characters depicted in a band in relation to anybody
living all dead vics, and it maybe the guy who's writing some kind of
wild, amazing fiction. This guy found a half ritten book and went I
found the truth, which is equally be and probable. It's more probable than
it being real. But then it's about everything. Yeah, it's I love
it. I love it. I'm sorry. I can't get enough of how
much I love it. And this idea that somebody wrote this thing in the
fourties, and I'm going to imagine from now that they were writing. I
just read Lord of the Rings. I'm going to create my own universe.
I'm going to create my own thing and in this universe as a super god
who is above God, and I'm going to start I'm going to paint the
universe out and I'm going to write the rest and he got to the end
of that bit, and when I can't think around, when stick? And
then years later I got a boat a box, or got a box or
found some books, opened it and read it, and when, Oh,
this is the basis of an entire religion I love. I'm going to believe
that in my heart with no factual basis, because I want faith now.
And it's just an amazing thing that this can happen. And also, what
kind of person finds a book like reads what he says in it, and
the first thought isn't oh this is interesting. It's a document from history,
isn't it weird? The first thought is, oh, this must be true.
I'm convinced it's real. I mean, you need you need to get
your brain outside your brain and look at facts. That's what they did.
The early empiricis Francis Bacon, and that they were trying to find a way
to find reality without using their flow brains. And that's why we've got empiricism.
I think a bit more of that needs to go on. When you
find an old document with waffle in it, just taking a little bit.
Maybe I'm just saying ende what you were saying, just reminding me of a
novel I read when I was a kid. It's about an alien who comes
to Earth with a message, and the message of peace is so powerful that
all nations stop waging war and start talking to each other. And as soon
as the alien goes back to his planet, then it appears that the piece
that people that the rulers imposed was just so that they can destroy each other
better at the same time. And so as soon as the agien goes away,
uh, the entire planet blows up. And that that's what it felt
a little bit when when I start started reading this thing. Is this message
comes from directly and it's supposed to unite everyone and as it says, unifying
on mankind and shed new light on universal faith. And that's kind of the
vibee I got from from this. Yeah. Yeah, religion, new religions.
Religions, they don't bring anything new into the world. They're kind of
like our aies at the moment our ais. They don't come up with any
new creative thoughts. They just kind of regurgitate thoughts that are out there and
do it into some new form. And it seems like religions that's what they're
that's what they do is they kind of take what's already there and kind of
mix it up a little bit and spit it back up. But there's nothing
new from religion. There's nothing, no new moral systems, no new moral
codes that get they get pushed out. They're just kind. I've always training
behind where the rest of us. Rest of us are rich, you have
us. Some thoughts on AI. Just one thought on AI. One of
the big peposes of AI that scares a little Jesus at me because I've been
reasoning it recently, is that they're trying to create AI that can be as
convincing as possible, that can convince you of any argument. There's even some
reports that some AI has been developing emotional sort of stimulated emotions in order to
help with that convincing process. So it's entirely possible that humans are going to
be able to create a system that can convince anyone of anything, a message
that everyone won't believe. So what's God's excuse just saying we can do it?
Why can't he? Anyway? Yeah, I'd love to. I'd love
to jump forward of the year about a thousand, two thousand years and see
what new religions were there and how they got started, and maybe there will
be a Lord of the Rings religion, and you know a thousand and two
thousand years, maybe the former president will be a religious figure. I mean
he's already kind of maybe two thousand years they'll be he'll be the would have
replaced other religions. It'll it would have just been fascinating to see to see
where new religions come from and how how they how they grow. Well,
thanks everybody who was a great conversation. Cindy, doctor Rich Kelly. Appreciate
your time. And if you want to hear more from the nonprofits click here. I think