WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.759 Breaking news everybody. A final message of the Almighty to the world has come 2 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:10.800 to unite all religions under one new religion. I'm talking about a press release 3 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:15.720 that was released by the Religion by Religion News titled is God Speaking to Humankind? 4 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:20.440 The Almighty proclaims final messages to Humankind? And this was and it's basically 5 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:26.879 someone in the nineteen forties started receiving messages from spirits that had passed on about 6 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:32.520 the way the Almighty wanted the world to work and wanted and this Almighty was 7 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:37.560 actually above God and was above Satan. It was very It's really interesting, 8 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:43.640 and unfortunately, the way to solve religions is not to create another religion. 9 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.520 Now you just have another religion. Now you just have another problem. And 10 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.520 if we've got one more religion, which one are we going to follow? 11 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:55.159 You're just going to have another group of people fighting another group of people over 12 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:59.039 what's supposedly true and what's supposedly isn't true. Kelly, what do you have 13 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:02.200 to say on this topic? You know, I read this and I was 14 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:06.280 like, seriously, what the f I mean? Is this really real? 15 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:08.400 And and I really didn't know if I should take it seriously. Or not. 16 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:12.519 And then I went to the group's faith, to the group's website, 17 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:19.040 Um, it's it says it came from Supplementology, right, that's the that's 18 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.640 the movement Supplementology. But if you actually go to their website, they've changed 19 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:29.400 the name and it's now the Almighty's Religion for the Universe, and it's I 20 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:33.760 had so much fun over there. It's just another one of these religious doctrines 21 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:38.359 revealed through somebody channeling an angel or a spirit and it was all written down. 22 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:42.359 And now we have some books that somebody wrote this stuff down in, 23 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:48.000 but we can't talk to the people who channeled the spirits because we don't know 24 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:52.000 who they are, like with the Book of Your Rancha or the person is 25 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:56.000 now dead so we can't talk to them. And it's just it's just such 26 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:59.760 a bunch of bs to me, you know. Um, the information that 27 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.879 aim out of this particular book that was found by a guy who made himself 28 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.400 a minister actually after finding it, and he became the high priest of this 29 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:15.639 new church all because he found these books that were conveniently donated to a nonprofit 30 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:22.719 that he was volunteering it. So it's pretty pretty word thing so the doctor 31 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:28.800 Ritchie want to follow up. Yeah, it's got a historical president again. 32 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:32.879 Fifty eighty two, the Emperor at By the Great, the Great Mughal Emperor 33 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:38.319 of India, he created didn't I Lahi, which is basically a form of 34 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:44.199 religion that is supposed to in all religions, and it wasn't supposed to proselytize 35 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.240 either, and it was kind of within the lifetime of his child died out. 36 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:51.840 Can't think, well that might be, but there are still apparently a 37 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.400 few people who would here to this, this form of religion. And one 38 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:58.080 of the things that I found interested is they believe the way you can unite 39 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:00.319 religions is by saying to all of aligions of the world, all the gods 40 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:05.759 you come across, all the manifestations of the same God, but presented in 41 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:10.520 such a way that that cultural understand them, because he's impossible to properly know, 42 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:15.439 because he's so great and so almighty. I'm turned into bat Robinson, 43 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:20.520 sorry. And so he comes as an elephant god to some people, and 44 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.759 he comes as speaking through his angel to other people, and he comes as 45 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:29.280 the son of to other people. And of course that argument is absolute pants 46 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:32.800 so because those gods are so different that it would make no sense at all, 47 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:37.840 and also would it makes sense that those gods appear in tons fight each 48 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:40.800 for those reasons. So yeah, it's it's not a new thing, trying 49 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:46.400 to create a super religions in comfort our religions. It's also, as Aaron 50 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.599 will justify, not a new thing to say, I found something and it 51 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.840 says the truth about God. No one else can look at it, but 52 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:57.919 I've found something, and I'm just glad they didn't say that all the Hinduism 53 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.960 began in Americas something weird like that. I'm surprised I didn't, Sundey. 54 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:09.439 Yeah, the otherle says, so Reverend smith revelation is a significant step forward 55 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:15.719 in religion understanding and could potentially unite all religions under one batter. Yeah, 56 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:19.720 because that worked well the five hundred and sixty two times they tried before. 57 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:27.040 Right. Uh, it's uh suprematology. It still has an interesting set of 58 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:30.560 beliefs, Like like Kelly, I went to to their website and they list 59 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:35.879 there what they call the nine Norms, and it's it's quite interesting because most 60 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:41.560 of them are vague enough to be able to to include other religions, but 61 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:47.160 some of them are pretty specific. One says that God and Satan were created 62 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:55.040 by this almighty entity I would say we should call UM's. It also says 63 00:04:55.079 --> 00:05:00.399 that, let me review a part of it, prayer to God in words 64 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:05.160 alone pros meaningless, which okay, fine. Um. It says men consist 65 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:11.199 of both spirit and matter, and components of matters such as the brain, 66 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:15.839 help the spirit reach a higher level of divinity. And so there's a lot 67 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:20.920 of this, you know, very vague spiritual vocabulary, but if you look 68 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:26.920 at the big picture here, it's basically the same thing that Christianity has been 69 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:32.399 doing for two thousand years, trying to include and then assimilate other cults and 70 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:36.560 other religions. It's and it's the same thing that the Koran tried to do. 71 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:41.839 The Koran says that the Bible is the previous word of Allah, and 72 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.959 it hasn't been understood well, so he said, okay, I need to 73 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.279 give them another hollybook, and that would be the Koran. And that's what 74 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:54.519 they seem to be doing here. So yeah, it's it's it's just interesting 75 00:05:54.560 --> 00:06:00.319 to read because it's heavily influenced by Christianity, but kind of different. But 76 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.639 yeah, Aaron, you wanted to want something. Yeah, kind of carry 77 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:09.600 on with that thought is that it's really interesting that God can't seem to get 78 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:14.399 a consistent message out to the world. He seems to have the worst pr 79 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:19.639 firm in the history of the universe. Even you know, billion dollar corporations 80 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:26.079 Nike and Adidas and other intel they can get out of Apple, they can 81 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:30.199 get out a consistent message, with a consistent design, with a consistent philosophy. 82 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.480 But oh my gosh, God seems to be completely incapable of doing this. 83 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:38.439 We have Islam, we have Christianity, we have all the different forms 84 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:41.879 of Christianity. You'd think that when he speaks to somebody, he'd give them 85 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.319 the same message. Unfortunately, everyone's got a different message. And now we 86 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:48.399 have this new message where there's this new Almighty that sits above God and this 87 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:53.399 is now, this is the truth. Finally, after ten thousand, twelve 88 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.959 thousand years of human history, now the Almighty's finally going to set the record 89 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.079 straight. He's finally gonna tell us how we should live and what we should 90 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.680 do. That's that's not how it works. You know, if God really 91 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:10.439 wants people to know and he's really omnipotent. As a lot of religions believe, 92 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:14.439 he should be able to give the consistent message to us and have some 93 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:18.079 way to verify that what somebody is saying actually comes from him. Or maybe 94 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.800 instead of going through somebody, he can just give the message directly to us. 95 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.600 We have these things called TVs and internets and broadcasting. Maybe he should 96 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.439 set up a YouTube channel and you know, deliver his message that way. 97 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:35.000 That would be That would really shut down a lot of this controversy about what 98 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:39.759 we should be believing and whatnot. But unfortunately, I think God might bee 99 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.480 has his phone off the hook or his internet's down. I just don't he's 100 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.279 just unable to h to communicate. Kelly, Yeah, you know you said 101 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:49.560 that about God and PR and I get I was having such a hard time 102 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:54.360 not laughing out loud because I had this vision of God talking to a PR 103 00:07:54.519 --> 00:08:01.560 exact about a new a new campaign. And it's so much good fertile comedy 104 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.639 ground there. But you know, I really enjoyed the website. If you 105 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.399 haven't changed to go check it out, you really should. It's really good 106 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.319 for a laugh. It's I feel like I'm so glad I got this segment 107 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.759 to be able to do this on nonprofits because I do work on Truth Wanted 108 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.120 and this is something I really want to show it objectively. Dan I think 109 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:24.360 he's going to get a big kick out of this website. One of the 110 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.839 things that I found about it, and I think people here have already said 111 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:31.360 it, is that there was really nothing new here. It really reminded me 112 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.600 a lot of Theosophy. I don't know if anybody knows about the see if 113 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.960 Theosophical Society that's here on the panel, but it was a movement started back 114 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:45.320 in a late nineteenth century by Madame Blovotsky, and it was basically the same 115 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.679 thing, trying to get all the religions together into one, except that she 116 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.840 was really highly steeped in the spiritualist movement that was happening at the time, 117 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.600 so there's a lot of spiritualism injected into it. I used to live right 118 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:01.080 by their headquarters in Weak, Illinois, and they've got a really cool library. 119 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.360 To go check out the Theosophical Society if you're ever in Wheaton. It's 120 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.120 open to the public or check it out. It's just got a lot of 121 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.679 woo at it. It's a fun place to check out. But yeah, 122 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:13.639 that's what I saw. Here was just a lot of this crazy stuff that 123 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:18.200 had already been said before, and it was started under Nazi occupation in one 124 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.080 of the Baltic states I don't remember. I think it was Estonia. I 125 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.480 might be wrong on that. And it seemed to me it was more like 126 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:30.000 a message of hope to these people who were living in this really horrible time 127 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.399 and under these horrible conditions, and it might have been a way for them 128 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.720 to cope with it. But it's hard to say, you know, it 129 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.519 really is, doctor rich I know you have more you want to add. 130 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.200 Yeah, well, actually, if I was going to mention theosophy, Gandhi 131 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.720 was a theosophist. Everyone's assumes he was a Hindu, but he wasn't. 132 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.639 It was actually a theosophist. He was just leaning towards the hint traditions with 133 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:56.879 theosophy later in life more Susan was a lawyer when it was young. It's 134 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:01.440 yeah, I find it's the other thing. It kind of Firstly, I 135 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.200 love this idea if there's an almighty who is above God, So who's above 136 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.399 the Almighty? Well, it's turtles all the way down. Of course, 137 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.879 isn't it. That's where we're going to go with this. We need to 138 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.360 find the biggest hurt and it's this seems to be what happens with religion if 139 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.639 you read David Hume's work. David Hune talks about how every religion tries to 140 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.320 get the biggest artist God. Look, maybe my god's bigger your God. 141 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.159 He can keep your God's face it that kind of thing, And this is 142 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.200 a game. What's happening. Yeah, yeah, your god's all well and 143 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:30.559 God, but he's actually been eath our gods. Our God's better and he's 144 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.720 the Almighty, and for some reason he created another god rather than doing it 145 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:39.399 all himself. And that's a bit brummish. And it's a long line of 146 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:45.080 trying to explain with multiple gods like a Manicheanism. If I pronounced that, 147 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:50.039 remember that correctly, which was Saint Augustine's original religion, which basically is there's 148 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.039 two gods, and one's a bad guy and one's a good guy, and 149 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.919 the bad guys the Old Testament god. The good guy is Jesus, who 150 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.159 came to us to create some kind of celestial gateway past the bad gods, 151 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:03.080 who could get to the God's Heaven, which actually makes makes a Bible make 152 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:07.039 more sense than general Christian reading because it separates this one from that one. 153 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.159 Don't seem to be the same guy. But I just find it it's brilliant 154 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:13.960 that these in some ways, that these things keep popping up, that you 155 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.159 keep having owned. By the way, what is it with the surname Smith? 156 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.679 Why is it Smith again? Why are these Smiths finding these dots starting? 157 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:26.799 I'm gonna think old Gustine might have been called Augustine Smithson when he sort 158 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.080 of created modern Christianity as we understand it, see Paul Smith, Saint Paul 159 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.679 Smith as well. It just seems to be a Smith thing. But it's 160 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.559 great. It's because this is a bit of fun. I don't think they're 161 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.799 going to take over American government and the world government after anytime soon, although 162 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.120 please visit me in the jail they create in twenty years once they've done that, 163 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.559 and tell me how foolish I was. But it's it's it's fodder for 164 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:58.000 fun and to look actually into the birth of religion and how religions start and 165 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:03.399 how religions fall, and how people persuade people of things based on nothing, 166 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.159 based on the old. I've found this, can I see? No? 167 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.559 Why not? Well I don't have it anymore? Why not because it's gone? 168 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.759 Okay, so what did you say? Say this hold? That sounds 169 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:13.480 brilliant, but I really really do want to see it? Well you can't. 170 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.600 Oh, but it was definitely there was yeah, definitely there. Well 171 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.720 it feels good to me, So I mean, yeah, it's kind of 172 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.679 how how often have we seen that? And I almost feel like I want 173 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:26.840 to send every religious anthropologies that I know, but I know a couple to 174 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.720 that website and say, check this out. I have a digging this. 175 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.279 You'll love this. This will be awesome. You'll love that. Cindy, 176 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:39.399 do you love that? I do? I do? And something else that 177 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.960 that cracks me up a little bit is that. So basically, we didn't 178 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:50.039 explain it, maybe entirely, but some people received God's voice in forty four, 179 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.519 and then this reverend Smith he found those books and then translated them and 180 00:12:54.960 --> 00:13:00.600 then spread the message business. So I wonder what those people are we're doing 181 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.879 in in ninety forty four, because it seems like Europe was a little bit 182 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.799 busy at the time, So how did they find time to, you know, 183 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.559 speak with God? And then write all of this, uh and and 184 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:18.559 this this almighty didn't he have anything else to manage at the time. I 185 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:22.440 mean a lot of people were dying I think at that time. Uh. 186 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.240 And the only thing he had time four was speak to a couple of people 187 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:33.360 so that they can spread the message in in the seventies. That just makes 188 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:39.919 no Are you questioning God's plan? Yeah? I have to have you have 189 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.879 to head strike me. Yeah? What I what? I researched the source 190 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.360 of this. This article is from a website religious news service, and it's 191 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:54.720 basically a site that regurgitates press releases. You can pay them some money some 192 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:56.639 of our press release and they'll publish it on their website and then it gets 193 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:00.960 picked up. I'm pretty sure that this art, this probably the same article 194 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.720 gets republished every few years. Somebody will pay money to get it republished to 195 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:09.000 try and you know, proselyte their view and get people to follow them and 196 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.320 the idea behind it. You know what's a good idea. Let's get let's 197 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:16.039 bring people together and and stop fighting about this. And I can get behind 198 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.480 that. Let's stop fighting about this. But like I said, forming a 199 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.639 new religion is isn't the way to do it. You know, religion is 200 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.679 is faith based. There's no there's it's there's no facts, there's no science 201 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:30.759 behind it. You have to believe it just because you have to believe it. 202 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.080 And you know, anybody can come up and say, hey, God 203 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:37.559 spoke to me and he said this. Well, anybody can claim anything. 204 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.480 And unfortunately we as humans, we're biased machines. Right, we do not 205 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:43.519 see the world the way it really is. All you have to do is 206 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:48.120 see the see um, oh what are those called? I can't even remember. 207 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.559 But our eyes we don't see the world really the way it is. 208 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:54.440 We don't hear, we can't hear things the way the world really is. 209 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.840 The center of our eyes actually don't doesn't have any receptors on it. And 210 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:01.519 so but our brain takes what's miss see, takes the other things that we 211 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:05.039 see and replay and fills it in. We don't have an empty spot and 212 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.320 what we see. And science is all about getting rid of the biases and 213 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:16.080 find out what's true by coming up with hypotheses, by testing things and getting 214 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.039 rid of our confirmation biases and things like that, so that what we get 215 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.159 at is bias free and it's as close to the truth as we can as 216 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.000 we can make it. Kelly, Yeah, that you know, that's that's 217 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.559 really right on. Really, that's awesome. I do want to point out 218 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:37.759 that while these books were supposedly written in nineteen forty four, we don't know 219 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:41.399 that they actually were. We don't know if they're really from twenty years later 220 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:46.000 when our Reverend Smith found them found them is in the box that was donated. 221 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.480 So uh, it's you know, when we we we based Like I 222 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.320 want to say, wow, this might have been written by somebody who was 223 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:56.639 just looking for comfort in these hard times, but you know, it could 224 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.440 be too that it was written twenty or thirty years later. There is a 225 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.639 way to con people. And making this claim that it was channeled is nothing 226 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.279 new either. This is something that's been that's been used a lot. If 227 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:12.559 anybody knows who Edgar Casey was, he was supposedly channeling spirits and they were 228 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:17.000 writing the stuff down. I mentioned the Book of Your Rancher earlier, which 229 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:22.440 was also channeled spirits, and it's just it just kind of it kind of 230 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:25.519 smells of a con to me. And I don't want to say that it 231 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:30.120 is, but it really does. And I yeah, I'm having a really 232 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.000 hard time saying that it's real, and that the people who are behind it 233 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:37.879 even believe that it's real. Doctor Rich, Yeah, I agree with you. 234 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.120 That's the other possibility as well, and that's it was written back in 235 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:45.000 the faulties, but then missing the page at the beginning that says this account 236 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.720 is purely fictitious, and any characters depicted in a band in relation to anybody 237 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:51.559 living all dead vics, and it maybe the guy who's writing some kind of 238 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:55.600 wild, amazing fiction. This guy found a half ritten book and went I 239 00:16:55.799 --> 00:17:03.360 found the truth, which is equally be and probable. It's more probable than 240 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:07.200 it being real. But then it's about everything. Yeah, it's I love 241 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:08.039 it. I love it. I'm sorry. I can't get enough of how 242 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.000 much I love it. And this idea that somebody wrote this thing in the 243 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.519 fourties, and I'm going to imagine from now that they were writing. I 244 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.119 just read Lord of the Rings. I'm going to create my own universe. 245 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:21.720 I'm going to create my own thing and in this universe as a super god 246 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:23.759 who is above God, and I'm going to start I'm going to paint the 247 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.960 universe out and I'm going to write the rest and he got to the end 248 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:30.720 of that bit, and when I can't think around, when stick? And 249 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:33.440 then years later I got a boat a box, or got a box or 250 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.480 found some books, opened it and read it, and when, Oh, 251 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:40.440 this is the basis of an entire religion I love. I'm going to believe 252 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.240 that in my heart with no factual basis, because I want faith now. 253 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:48.440 And it's just an amazing thing that this can happen. And also, what 254 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.039 kind of person finds a book like reads what he says in it, and 255 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:55.799 the first thought isn't oh this is interesting. It's a document from history, 256 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.079 isn't it weird? The first thought is, oh, this must be true. 257 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:03.559 I'm convinced it's real. I mean, you need you need to get 258 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.680 your brain outside your brain and look at facts. That's what they did. 259 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:12.119 The early empiricis Francis Bacon, and that they were trying to find a way 260 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:18.000 to find reality without using their flow brains. And that's why we've got empiricism. 261 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:19.720 I think a bit more of that needs to go on. When you 262 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.400 find an old document with waffle in it, just taking a little bit. 263 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:32.400 Maybe I'm just saying ende what you were saying, just reminding me of a 264 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:37.920 novel I read when I was a kid. It's about an alien who comes 265 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.839 to Earth with a message, and the message of peace is so powerful that 266 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:48.440 all nations stop waging war and start talking to each other. And as soon 267 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:55.440 as the alien goes back to his planet, then it appears that the piece 268 00:18:55.559 --> 00:19:00.920 that people that the rulers imposed was just so that they can destroy each other 269 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.039 better at the same time. And so as soon as the agien goes away, 270 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.599 uh, the entire planet blows up. And that that's what it felt 271 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:14.079 a little bit when when I start started reading this thing. Is this message 272 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:19.680 comes from directly and it's supposed to unite everyone and as it says, unifying 273 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:25.960 on mankind and shed new light on universal faith. And that's kind of the 274 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:30.599 vibee I got from from this. Yeah. Yeah, religion, new religions. 275 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.559 Religions, they don't bring anything new into the world. They're kind of 276 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.880 like our aies at the moment our ais. They don't come up with any 277 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.400 new creative thoughts. They just kind of regurgitate thoughts that are out there and 278 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.880 do it into some new form. And it seems like religions that's what they're 279 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:49.319 that's what they do is they kind of take what's already there and kind of 280 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.480 mix it up a little bit and spit it back up. But there's nothing 281 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.519 new from religion. There's nothing, no new moral systems, no new moral 282 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.759 codes that get they get pushed out. They're just kind. I've always training 283 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:03.480 behind where the rest of us. Rest of us are rich, you have 284 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:06.559 us. Some thoughts on AI. Just one thought on AI. One of 285 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:10.400 the big peposes of AI that scares a little Jesus at me because I've been 286 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:14.400 reasoning it recently, is that they're trying to create AI that can be as 287 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:18.480 convincing as possible, that can convince you of any argument. There's even some 288 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:25.680 reports that some AI has been developing emotional sort of stimulated emotions in order to 289 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:30.880 help with that convincing process. So it's entirely possible that humans are going to 290 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:34.519 be able to create a system that can convince anyone of anything, a message 291 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:38.480 that everyone won't believe. So what's God's excuse just saying we can do it? 292 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:42.200 Why can't he? Anyway? Yeah, I'd love to. I'd love 293 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:45.359 to jump forward of the year about a thousand, two thousand years and see 294 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:49.039 what new religions were there and how they got started, and maybe there will 295 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:52.599 be a Lord of the Rings religion, and you know a thousand and two 296 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:56.440 thousand years, maybe the former president will be a religious figure. I mean 297 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.519 he's already kind of maybe two thousand years they'll be he'll be the would have 298 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.559 replaced other religions. It'll it would have just been fascinating to see to see 299 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.279 where new religions come from and how how they how they grow. Well, 300 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.920 thanks everybody who was a great conversation. Cindy, doctor Rich Kelly. Appreciate 301 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.839 your time. And if you want to hear more from the nonprofits click here. I think