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The following presentation isn't el Marve Studios
Production. Welcome back fact Hunters and fellow

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It is time for another edition of the

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fact Hunter podcast, and tonight is
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we're going to get to our special
guest in just a moment before we bring

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Surge on. I just want to
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Without any further Ado, let's get
to our special guest, Surge. And

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he actually reached out originally on our
speak pipe message line. He left us

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a voicemail and he wanted to join
us and talk to us about the state

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of our country. And let's just
bring him on without any further Ado.

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Let's welcome Surge. Surge. Thank
you so much for joining us again tonight,

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my friend. Hello, Welcome everyone. I appreciate the ability to speak

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here tonight or to anyone at least
what I actually wanted to do in the

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beginning, and I actually got ahead
of myself. I'm sorry if I'm interjecting

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here. Now You're good. What
I actually made George Hobbs do before he

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actually started the show was I made
him recite the Pledge of Allegiance, which

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I recited since I was eight when
I came to this country, and that

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pledge of allegiance, if we could
do that one more time, George,

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absolutely my pledge of allegiance. I
pledge allegiance to the flag the United States

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of American America and to the Republic
for which stands one nation under God,

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indivisi with liberty, liberty, injustice
for all. What I wanted to actually

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punctuate was and to the republic for
which it stands. This is not a

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democracy. This is a republic.
And because we nowadays we only hear this

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is a democracy. We want to
make America democracy. This is a democratic

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way. This we have to instill
a democracy in this country, the other

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country. This was not a democracy
to begin with it. This was a

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republic, that constitutional republic. Yeah, and people need to realize that words

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have meaning in republic specifically means that
the power is held by the people and

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their elected representatives. But the people
who are currently in DC think that they

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hold all the power and we're supposed
to obey them, right, yea,

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yeah, yeah, But a lot
of people don't understand that. They don't

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know that, they can't comprehend that. I don't see and you you already

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got me started, and I don't
even know where to go from here.

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You can go any direction that you
went. I think you should first just

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kind of give a little bit of
background about yourself. You said you came

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over here at the age of eight. Let the listeners know where you came

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from, all right, Yeah,
so I was about seven years old.

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I was living my beautiful life in
Ukraine, you know, just being a

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little child running around not knowing what's
good was bad? Right. My parents

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decided to move to America because they
had suffered religious persecution. So they moved

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to America under the I think it
was the was it the political It was

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a the bishoty class, it was
the asylum clause. Yeah. Yeah,

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And I'm sorry because I kind of
in my mind I have two languages,

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so I have to switch between the
two, right, But yeah, we

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came here in nineteen ninety and we
went all the way. So when we

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left, we went from Ukraine to
Austria. We stayed there for about six

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weeks. Then we went to Italy. We stayed there for about six months

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because the actual sponsor that wanted to
sponsor us reneged on his offer. So

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yeah, so we had to find
a different sponsor that wanted to sponsor us,

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and that took a bit of time, but that happened and we moved

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to firm. Well, we went
to actually from New York, New York

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where everyone goes. Then we flew
to Washington State. Oh wow. Yeah.

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But after that point, I mean
I went to school as an eight

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year old like a regular guy.
You know, a regular boy would whatever

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it was to me. Let me
say this right here. To me,

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ketchup was a new idea. Wow, that ketch up. Those ketchup Pakistan

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school, they were like treats.
I used to hold those things and when

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I was walking home from school,
I just like popping him in my mouth.

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And you know what I'm saying,
it was it was a big deal,

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awesome And can I ask what part
of Ukraine you were in when you

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grew up in Yeah, I was
from Nicha, Okay, so it's about

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it's about what sixty kilometers from Cave
Okay, the capital of Ukraine. Yeah,

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it's about an hour and a half
drive. Not bad. And then

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yeah, what what was the other
question I was gonna ask you? Goodness,

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I just it just completely slipped my
mout. So you left in nineteen

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ninety Correct me if I'm wrong?
But was that? No? Hold on,

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hold on, No, I left
in the nineteen eighty nine, but

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by that time I got to the
US, it was nineteen ninety okay.

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And then refresh my memory. When
did the USSR split up? Was that

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ninety one or was that ninety one? So basically, um, okay,

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gotcha you left two years before broke
up. Yep, gotcha? Okay.

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And I understand that people think,
oh, this guy, he left before

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he even understood anything, before he
even saw anything, before he could even

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react to anything. For those people, I say, we all have family,

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right, and we do have grandparents
and parents that have lived before we

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have, and they all have an
understanding or a point of view that they

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transfer or they give to us.
So what I'm trying to say, I

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guess is that whatever happened before I
was seven or six, that my grandparents

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and my parents instilled in me everything
that happened in the USSR prior to me

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leaving, certainly. Yeah, so
that's that's the basis from where I'm speaking.

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Is that actual knowledge that I understand. It could be conceived as second

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hand, but in my in my
eyes, when my grandpa told me something,

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or if my dad told me something, or my mother said something,

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that was a lot to me understand
one hundred percent. And uh, you

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know, my wife grew up in
Hungary as well in the eighties, and

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she she kind of understands and saw
the same things waiting in line for medical

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appointments. And I remember even when
I was over there twenty five years ago,

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speaking of ketchup and mustard, those
things came in. I remember they

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looked like toothpaste tubes, you're you're
mustard and mayonnaise and all that. So

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they were rare, right, Yeah. Yeah, So when I was on

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the base there and Hungary and tazar
Um, they would ask for me to

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bring things from the commissary there,
like you know, ketch up and certain

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drinks that they liked that they didn't
have over there. So yeah, it

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is a bit of a cultural difference
for sure. Yeah, when were you

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there? Actually I was there from
March to um September of I think it

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was two thousand, okay, so
during deployment and basically yep, yep.

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I actually I had orders, I'll
station in Hawaii. I had orders to

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go to Bosnia and Sarajevo. So
I went to Fort Benning, Georgia for

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two weeks, did my training.
Then they flew me to Germany. Then

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I landed in Sarajevo and they said, oh your your your job. Just

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moved to Bosnia, where I'm sorry, to Hungary. So I spent there

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a week in Saraevo waiting for my
new orders to be cut. Then I

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flew up to Hungary and I spent
the rest of you know, about five

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five and a half months in a
Hungary. Beautiful country like Balatone is so

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beautiful. Yeah, it's I mean, I'm sorry. Europe is beautiful,

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and I love America. We have
so many we have so many beautiful monuments,

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yea as as I I've driven around
the country for years and I love

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all the monuments we have I love
all the historically significant points of interest that

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we have in the country. Indeed, saying that, I do understand that

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if anybody has visited let's say,
Europe or anything else, we see that

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there's so much more historically old pieces
of architecture that is available or that exists

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that we can view. Yeah.
Sure that the United States is a baby

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compared to Europe. Yeah. So, um, let's talk a little bit

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about the reason that you wanted to
come on here tonight, and that is

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because a lot of people, even
you know, we talked a little bit

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before we started that even over the
last three or four years, the tyranny

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that's it's kind of been bestowed upon
us here in this country and people aren't

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seeing it. And you had mentioned, if I remember correctly, that America

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today is like the USSR in the
nineteen seventies. Yeah, so what I

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noticed, let me backtrack, if
I may. Sure. So, basically,

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I came here. I was eight
years old, you know, as

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a fresh kid, like nothing in
my mind. I didn't know anything,

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you know. I came from one
system, one social system, to a

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different social system. Right. So
I went to the first grade in the

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prep schools and all that in the
US s art and I seen how that

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was played out. And when I
came to America, the first thing that

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I remember, and this is honest
to God, So when I came to

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America, I was placed in the
second rate because of my age. I

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was already eight years old. Blah
blah blah, you know. Um.

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But the first thing I remember,
I was at recess and we were doing

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some just recess stuff, you know, children's stuff, and I called,

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I called a black person a negro, and that black that person I wanted

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to pick a fire with me because
I called him a negro. Now again,

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I would like to reiterate that I
did not called him the N word,

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right, Yeah, I just said
negro because in my country, well

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where I came from, negro was
a negro, and I didn't know that

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the other word was an actual insult
to people of the black color or African

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persuasion. So yeah, we had
a fight, and after that, I

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actually got a taste of American justice. There you go, There you go,

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And that's something that I should have
asked to begin with. When you

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came over. You know, you're
eight years old, How well did you

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know the English language at that point, I did not know anything. So

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everything I learned in and the first
two years of living here was from the

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public schools and all the language,
everything, how I conduct myself. I

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mean I went to ESL, which
is like a little class for English as

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a second language for all the people. Yeah, so I went there and

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they basically taught me all the what
I can do, what I can do,

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how I speak, how I can't
speak. So that was my first

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route awakening because before that, I
can say I could say something anything I

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wanted to accept against the actual leaders
of the country. Right. But besides

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that, yeah, I can say
whatever I want. Yeah, that's something

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that doesn't go over very well in
that part of the world. Um,

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and look that that's we're getting dangerously
close here. I mean, you saw

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what happened on January sixth. I
interviewed a guy last Tuesday, I interviewed

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him from prison, and yeah,
I think that's the point I wanted to

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touch on. Man that Jeremy Brown, the political prisoner. Ye'res yeah,

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you're just let's let's hold off on
that, just yeah, for sure.

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Absolutely, what do you want to
touch on next? Uh? Basically,

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so after we came in, we
had all this stuff. So my my

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dad when well, my parents when
they came in, they had four children

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with them, and we got an
apartment. He got what's that called what's

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the when you get benefits from the
state, Yes, SSI or yeah,

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like welfare? Yeah, yeah,
there you go. Okay, Yeah,

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so my dad was on welfare for
a whole month before he found a job

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and started doing something to actually make
money on his own. Um, he

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didn't like other people paying for him
to be here. He didn't like other

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people to be sponsoring him while he
was an able bodied human that could work

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for his own existence. Right,
sure, No man wants to feel like

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a charity case. Exactly, yeah, exactly. So from from that,

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like I was only like a young
teenage I didn't I wasn't even teenaged.

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I just I just looked at that
and I was like, Okay, so

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this guy is doing this. And
I treated the country that I was in

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as a new land to explore,
a new country to discover. And I

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was treating that as a country with
no restrictions, with no boundaries. It

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was just free to explore, right
up until I got pulled over for my

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first violation, which was I I
did not merge into the left hand turned

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signal in the appropriate time. Yeah. And after that, I was like,

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hold on sometimes wrong because this looks
like the country I just left.

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I was gonna say that cop must
have a lot of time on his hand

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to pull you over for that.
Yeah, But I understand people have to

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make a living and all that.
Yeah, I get that. But all

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that being said, I took my
oath as a citizen in two thousand ten,

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became a citizen, and I had
some issues. Well, the issue

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I had after becoming a citizen was
that I I had built a house when

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I was twenty one, twenty two
around that age, So two thousand,

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two thousand, two thousand and three, I built a house and I was

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just messing around in my driveway with
a what do you call the plastic be

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begun, shooting the type of little
air gun. Yeah. And I was

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just messing around in my driveway and
shooting in the mailbox across the street.

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You know how how young people usually
do you know? Yeah, but there

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was a concerned neighbor that drove past
me that told the police that I threatened

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her and I caused her to be
afraid for her life. Long story longer.

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I am now a felon. Seriously, that's how it happens. That's

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why I wanted to touch on this. So it was one hundred percent your

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word versus her, and yes,
my word versus hers. And guess what

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she could put down the tears and
her tears meant more than what I said.

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And I looked Russian. So that's
what happened. Now, had you

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guys butted heads before? Has there
were there any other communications before? Were

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you guys were kind of button heads? Or no? Me in here?

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No? No? Uh. Basically, she drove past and she saw me

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with a fire arm looking device and
this is on the books fire looking device.

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Firearm looking device. Yeah, um, and I did have firearms at

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the time. I mean I had
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the one I was using was obviously
not even the BB gun. It was

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a airsoft gun, gotcha. But
since yeah, but since she was afraid

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for her life and everything else.
And mind you, this was in the

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red in the red part of the
county of the Steady, Washington. So

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yeah, my lawyer said, don't
press it, forget it, you're not

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gonna win. I took the l
That's what that's the advice your lawyer gave

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you. Yes, sir, Oh
my goodness, gracious. I've had many

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people long before who said the worst
thing you can do is get a lawyer.

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And the more and more I start
to talk to people, I'm starting

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to believe that. Well, yeah, I understand that now it's seven years

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past or ten years past. Yeah, sure, but you were twenty one

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at the time. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it goes with you,

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you know, the longer you lived. Like, look, how would I

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say this, Um, Are you
a believer at all in a sense?

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Or no? Am I believe?
Are you talking about in God and Jesus?

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Yeah of course, yeah, of
course. Okay, So when we

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like, when I was a teenager, I believed in Christ, Jesus everything,

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right. Yeah. But and when
I was younger, I thought,

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man, I only got these little
things to take care of. You know,

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I'm not that bad of a person, right, I'm not going to

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do this much stuff. But as
I get older, I have so much

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more greedious things that I've done that
I can't even account for. Um.

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So yeah, in the beginning,
it's easier to go through this than at

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the end. In the beginning,
I was like oh this, this is

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not a big deal. This is
this Okay, So I got a little

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felony and not a big deal,
right, but after everything else, Yeah,

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that's a big deal. Yeah,
sure it is. That's uh,

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that's something that in this country,
it never goes away. And that's something

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that I I've talked about with other
folks before in the past, is,

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Um, you know, if people
are found guilty and they serve their time,

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and they've paid their debt to society, why do they still have this

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hanging over their head? Now?
I understand in certain cases, let's say

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murder or if you harm a child. You know, we can certainly make

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arguments for those type of things to
protect society. But for everything else,

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UM, I think we need every
real conversation. Just last month, I

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did did an episode on the prison
industrial complex, and UM, it's important

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what we do here in the United
States. We say we're the freest country

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in the world, and we have
by far the highest incarceration rate in the

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world on percent Do you know what
percentage of the incarcerated population in the prisons

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are innocent? If I had to, I mean, obviously this is just

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a guess, probably ten to fifteen
percent you know a good ten. Yeah,

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that means fifteen percent of all the
population in every prison in America is

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innocent. Sure. And who is
it that said I would rather let a

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guilty man be free than incarceerrate a
non guilty person. Yeah, I remember

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hearing that. Yeah, but then
again, that's neither here nor there.

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It's it's very unfortunate that this happens, but it does happen, indeed.

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And what was the sentence that you
were given for this? I mean,

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obviously you were a first time that
was the besides your you're merging traffic ticket,

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that was the first kind of brush
with the law you've had. Correct,

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Yeah, well, no, no, I gotta be honest. Look,

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I was a young teenager. I
had a car. I had multiple

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speed violations, but they didn't go
beyond that, okay. And what was

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the sentence you've received for that?
So the sentence was it was six months

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of probation where I had to call
in to find out every day whether I

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had to pee in a cup for
somebody, and then I had to pay

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a fine. I think it was
like eight hundred dollars or something like that.

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sense. So at least you didn't

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have to actually physically spend time in
jail. Cut No, No, it

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wasn't that. No. But you
know, I don't know about you,

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because, look, I understand that
you served in the military, and shout

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out to all the people that served
in the military. My hat's off to

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you. You guys were doing what
you were told to do, and whether

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or not I agree with that,
I appreciate and I salute you for doing

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what you did, well, I
appreciate it. And that's that's a conversation.

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I think as all veterans get older, we reflect on our service,

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and as we get older, we
get wiser and we realize that what the

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government's all about. So obviously you've
listened to the podcast before, you understand

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that's something that I wristle with on
a daily basis. Yeah, that's what

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I said. You know before,
when I was earler, I thought this

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and this, But as you get
older, you get that understanding where Okay,

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maybe this wasn't the right thing to
do. Maybe you know, sure,

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Yeah, what else would you like
to talk about? Actually, I

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want to add on to that.
I think you know, when we talk

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about the people who control the agenda, they know how to manipulate. Obviously,

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they control the media, so they
can manipulate it. And they know

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that most of the people who populate
this country, including like you said,

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the people who live in the quote
unquote red parts of the States, heavy

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patriotism. So like when nine to
eleven happened, I had buddies who were

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recruiters. He said, there was
lines down the street for people to sign

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up. So that the people who
control the narrative are very brilliant and they

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know how to manipulate us, right
one percent. I was actually going to

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touch on this a little bit.
So basically in two thousand and one when

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WDC actually happened, I was going
to college, right, and it was

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about half a year before that happened, not exactly when it happened, but

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half a year before. And I
was nineteen at the time, and I

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wanted to join the military. And
as you knew from what I told you,

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I had a couple traffic to fines
outstanding. What they did was the

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army recruiters actually went to my college
I went to and they said, yeah,

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we would like to have you on, We would like to sign you

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up, but you have to take
care of these outstanding fines and then you

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can join up. And since I
was nineteen didn't have a job in the

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world, I was like, I
can't do that. I don't have the

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physical propensity to do that, and
they said, okay, you can join

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up. That's interesting because I've heard
of stories where recruiters were able to kind

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of go to the courts and say, Hey, we're trying to get this

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guy in. Can you just kind
of wave the fee so we can bring

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this guy in. I think if
you would have had a more motivated recruiter,

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he could have been a little more
creative for you. I think that

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if we were in a different county, or maybe it was in a different

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part of the state, that could
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was really black and white, because
I was on the eastern side of Washington,

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not the western side, it was
a different story. Because seven years

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after the fact, when I was
married, I had a child, had

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a family. We went to a
showing of military equipment, and you know,

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I had a son that was about
seven eight years old, and he

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really liked the equipment. He liked
the big trugs, you know, he

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liked the machinery. And we took
him out there, and the guy showing

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everything off said would you like to
join? And I said, well,

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I can't join because you told me
that I couldn't join because I have a

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couple of tickets outstanding. And he
told me, verbatim, now we don't

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care about that. We'll give you
thirty thousand to join right now. Wow.

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Yeah, And I said, you
know what, right now, that's

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not the right time. I wanted
to do this, what eight years earlier,

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but you wouldn't allow me. Yeah. It's it's an awful lot easier

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to deploy and go away for a
year as a single young man as it

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was, you know, once I
got married and had children, it was

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excruciating. How old were you when
you first deployed? So my very very

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first deployment was Operation Desert Storm.
I was twenty one and Desert Storm was

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nine. Okay, yeah, wow, yeah, So that was the Iraqi

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Freedom, right, Well, that
one was Desert Storm. That was George

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H. W. Bush, that
was Daddy, and then and then oh

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three is when Iraqi Freedom kicked off. I served under let's say, I

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served under Reagan HW. Bush,
Clinton W. Bush and uh, of

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course, uh, the great Obama
right in quotes yeah, the Great Obama.

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Yeah, I get it. Yeah, but I do think it for

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your service, I understand that meant
a lot to you, and it didn't

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mean a lot to American people.
I just don't think that they appreciate it

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as much as the people that served
did. Yeah, And you know,

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the frustrating thing is for me,
and I say this to my close friends

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and fellow veterans. We've got a
couple of guys who we were very close

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to. I lost one in Iraq
and one in Afghanistan, and then you

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kind of see where the country is
at today and you and you kind of

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question would they think. Now,
they were very selfless people, so they

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wouldn't have questioned it, but you
know, was it worth giving their life

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for where we are today? You
know, that's that's a question that I

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wanted to ask you. Actually,
now that you look back on whatever you

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did, well, I assume it's
no. No, that's fine. So

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I wouldn't change anything because I was
there for my friends, and my friends

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were there for me, and I
was I felt like I was a good

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leader and I was able to get
all my soldiers out of there for the

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most part safely. I can't speak
to that mentally, because everybody goes everybody

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has different tolerances to combat. And
you know, we had my driver when

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we get hit by an ID in
two thousand and six. I think it

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was April two thousand and six.
He had to go home for minor injuries.

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But I mean he went on and
he's had a good life. But

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you know, I can't. I
know I can't change the past, so

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I try not to dwell on it. I think the thing I do dwell

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on more often than not is,
like I said early, is the guys

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who were lost in combat and where
we are today. And that's something that

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it keeps me awake at night.
Yeah real, And I think this monster

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is just too big. That the
question is, you know, when I

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have all the guests on, the
million dollar question is how can we change

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the course of where we're headed?
And I'm of the thought that this monster

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has gotten too big. I'm not
sure that we can change anything. We're

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certainly, as the police said,
there is no political solution, that's for

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sure. We're not going to vote
our way out of this. It's it's

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just going to take everyone going back
to God. And you know, even

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if you're not a super religious person
at least having morals, and there's just

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so much that has gone wrong in
this country. I don't want to turn

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it into a you know, beat
down the the USA type of episode,

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but we have allowed you know,
the constitution, as I said, Yeah,

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yeah, it's not the USA is
fault, right, I mean,

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it's not the it's not the fault
of the actual country. It's just the

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fault of the people that do not
realize where they're getting pushed because I think

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I sent you, I sent you
a YouTube video, yes, the propaganda

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video exactly. Yeah, And it's
so apparent there and this was nineteen forty

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eight. This is so apparent to
where I cannot, I cannot not watch

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it and say that I'm still okay
after that, you know. Yeah,

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And there's by the way, there's
there's a ton of propaganda videos that were

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made between nineteen forty eight and the
late fifties where they were actually warning young

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people that they showed these videos in
school how to be aware of propaganda.

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And then of course that the bad
guys kind of took over the country and

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their goal was to dump people down, and of course it led all the

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way up to twenty twelve with the
Smith Modernization Act, which allows now the

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government to you know, put propaganda
on its own population. So just in

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sixty years or so, that that's
how far we've declined. Yeah, and

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that's why I'm saying, like America
right now today as American, Like I

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mean, I consider myself American.
I don't consider myself Ukrainian American or okay,

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even let's put it this way.
I was born in Ukraine, right,

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I do not consider Russians my mortal
enemy at all. No, I

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consider Russians my brothers because we are
all Slavic people. Russians, Ukrainians,

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Polish people. We are all Slavic
people. I don't see a difference between

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any of the three or anyone else
on the border. I don't see the

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difference. We're all Slavic, right. Yeah. So when when Putin innovaded

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quote unquote invaded Ukraine, I understood
there were some there were some people that

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were saying, you know, death
to Russia, and then some Russians saying

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death to Ukraine, and Americans chimed
in saying, yeah, death to Russia.

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I get that, that's fine,
but I don't see myself as a

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Ukrainian I see myself as a Slavic
person. The Russian person is my brother.

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The Polish person, that's my brother, Ukrainian, that's my brother.

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American, that's my brother. You're
gay, you're my brother. You're straight,

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you're my brother, Mexican, black. I don't care. We're all

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brothers because we are from the same
family tree, which is God made Adam,

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and everybody came from Adam. That's
right. So you can't. You

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can't give me on your gay or
straight, or your Mexican Latino. You're

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black, you're Mexican. I don't
care. I can make a case for

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anybody being bad. I can make
a case for anyone being good, right,

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just like you could. Absolutely,
that's right. Yeah, And that's

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kind of the underhand to play of
politics and even sports is to get people

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in the mindset where you have to
choose a team one especially sports, that

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is just wow, yeah, yep, And that is our culture today.

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It's right, are you on team
bud Light or you're on team against the

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trans person who's drinking. Are you
on Jason Aldan's team or you on CMTS

411
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.360
team. It's the flavor of the
week. It is constant divide and conquer,

412
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.760
and these people fall for hook line
and Sinker every week. You know

413
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.159
what. Okay, you're talking about
Dylan Mulvaaney. You know what, if

414
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.400
that dude came to my barbecue,
I would grill them some chicken and some

415
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:52.920
steak. I couldn't give two sits. Uh sorry, I use some words.

416
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.840
I it wasn't supposed to know.
You're good. You're good. Yeah.

417
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.360
I don't care if you come over. Bro, just don't tell me

418
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:04.320
how I pronounce your pronouns or say
you're pronouns. Just you're good. You're

419
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:08.440
a person. I'm a person.
You're a person. Let's go there.

420
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:13.079
You go nobody, no, yeah, nobody cares. Okay. So you're

421
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.960
gay, you're lesbian, you're by, you're transsexual. You know what you

422
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.559
are? Okay, and my eyes
fine, you do what you do.

423
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.559
I have an understanding. I have
a propensity to understand some things because I

424
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.760
believe in the living God. But
if you want to do what you want

425
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:37.039
to do, you can do whatever
you want to do. Just do not

426
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:43.719
make me. Do not force me
to claim that you are something that I

427
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.280
do not believe you or not.
I mean, if you don't do that,

428
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:52.119
I'm good with you. And that's
the problem. We're in a society

429
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:57.480
now where if you don't go along
with the main line of thinking, you're

430
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.360
wrong. Oh wait, you don't
accept this person or you don't, well,

431
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.000
then you're wrong. You don't use
a pronoun, you're wrong. And

432
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:09.400
that's that is the globalist going back
to the Tower of Babel, New World

433
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.920
Order type of you know, government
that they're trying to push upon us.

434
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.039
Well, i'll give you another another
thread if you want to go down the

435
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:25.920
rabbit hole. Yeah. Basically,
my grandpa might hear wrist in heaven he's

436
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.079
got. But he went to World
War Two. He was seventeen. He

437
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:38.159
joined up with the Karamia anyways,
so he joined up with the Russian Army.

438
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:45.000
He went to World War Two.
He actually got the Medal of Freedom

439
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:51.000
or not free him, but he
got the Medal of I don't even know

440
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:52.880
how to call it. Is it
something similar to like our Medal of Honor.

441
00:40:54.599 --> 00:41:02.079
No, it was the medal for
the ousting of German troops from Berlin.

442
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.880
Yeah, so he was there in
Berlin and then he got all that,

443
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:14.119
and then he came back he got
like four medals from the bullshit.

444
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:22.559
I'm sorry. The administration that was
in power at the time. And he

445
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.679
told me after he came back,
he told me all the stories of the

446
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:31.280
people that came back with him,
that the soldiers he knew, they came

447
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:39.159
back and they you know, the
people in the Slavic countries, they like

448
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:43.920
guitars, they like music, they
liked the you know, the everything.

449
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.920
But what he said was there was
a person that said the German strings were

450
00:41:50.039 --> 00:42:00.239
better than Soviet strings. That was
thirty years in the gulag. Yeah you

451
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:07.159
think I'm kidding. No, that's
insane. No, that's insane. Yeah

452
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.480
for us, for me and you
living in America, living the dream,

453
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:14.800
living in the American life, Yeah, that's insane at this point. At

454
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:20.480
this point for them, now is
a reality. Well, the goolags are

455
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:27.320
slowly creeping into our society search percent. And that's why I'm saying it because

456
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.039
right now, in two thousand and
three or twenty twenty three, we're at

457
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:42.960
about the communism in the nineteen seventy
The reason I say that is because everything

458
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:47.719
that we do now is the same
thing that the people did in the USSR

459
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:53.039
in nineteen seventy. Now, if
you continue any further down the line,

460
00:42:53.760 --> 00:43:00.639
we would regress in the communism.
So basically, if we continue five years,

461
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:06.559
we're gonna be in like nineteen sixty
USSR. If you continue another three

462
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:10.079
years, we'd be in nineteen fifty
years O SAR. And if we go

463
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.599
any further, we'd been ninety thirties, which means all the more, which

464
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:23.400
means fake Holocaust, which means a
fake Was that ten million Christians that were

465
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.719
killed in the whole lot of more? Uh? No, it was my

466
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:32.880
Christians in per se. It was
just thirty million, thirty million people.

467
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.159
Yeah, that's it. And do
you remember when you went through school,

468
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.480
did they teach anything about the holoto
more my grandpa, No, no,

469
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:44.960
no, no, like when you
went to public school in Washington. Oh

470
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:49.320
yeah, yeah, okay Washington,
they said nothing. Yeah. Right,

471
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.039
that's what I'm saying. Everything about
the Holocaust, but you don't hear anything

472
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:57.159
about the holodomor Yeah. Yeah.
I heard a lot about the Civil War.

473
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:01.320
I heard a lot about independence,
which I appreciate because I've pledge my

474
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:06.039
allegiance to the flag. I do
not a pledge it to anything else.

475
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:12.719
That's right, there's God, there's
a flag, there's nothing else. Yeah,

476
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:19.920
you can't start pledging it to people, that's for sure. And if

477
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.119
you know when we were in the
military, we were we were taught what

478
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:28.280
the flag meant. There's the three
colors of the flag, and the red

479
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.760
is the most important to me,
which is the blood that was shed for

480
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:42.199
our country for us to be free. Yes, yeah, but a lot

481
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.960
of people don't understand it that way. And I doubt that any any Democrat

482
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:54.920
or any person leaning towards a democratic
understanding realizes that the red is the blood

483
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.519
that was shed for you to do
what you do right now, that's right.

484
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.719
And you know when when you were
talking earlier about if this continues like

485
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.639
this for five more years, it'll
go back to sixty and then a few

486
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:14.000
more years back to fifty, Well, let me ask you this, what

487
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:22.880
things can we do as individuals to
change the course that we're headed. At

488
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:30.960
the risk of sounding like a person
that rings the alarm or nothing, basically,

489
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:38.679
I will say that if we don't
change anything as it is currently sitting,

490
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:45.719
in five more years, will be
in America like we were in the

491
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:53.800
Soviet Union in nineteen fifty, which
means anybody even okay, so even now

492
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:59.039
this is happening, anybody, any
police officer can stop you and ask you

493
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:04.320
for a d for all apparent reason. Right, Look at Jeremy Brown,

494
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:10.159
right, I actually listened to that
podcast to three days ago. The guy

495
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:17.000
didn't do anything incorrect. No,
he did what he did. He actually

496
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:24.480
served the country. He served the
country in faith and honor, and then

497
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:32.280
the actual government that he served turned
against him and labeled him as a as

498
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:38.559
a pariah, as as as a
trader to the people. How does that

499
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:46.360
work in a free society into a
republican I don't understand. My mind cannot

500
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:52.639
wrap around us. And this should
be a huge alarmed everybody. And when

501
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.760
you're done listening to this podcast,
folks, if you're working, you're driving,

502
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.000
try to remember this next time you're
on break, pull out your phone

503
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:05.519
and go to the DHS website,
the Department of Homeland Security, and in

504
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.159
the search engine, you know the
little magnifying glass where you can put in

505
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:13.760
the search box, put in right
wing extremist, and look at all the

506
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:19.880
definitions of what this government, in
their um their very extended arm of the

507
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:25.320
law, considers extremism. And then
you'll really realize that we are in a

508
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:39.119
very precarious situation. Well, you
want to know another funny story. Yeah,

509
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:45.599
so I had an uncle in law. Let's say, so this guy

510
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:52.360
was married to my grandmother's sister,
right, so who really liked my brand?

511
00:47:52.679 --> 00:48:02.239
Brand? Okay, so this guy
to prison in the Gulag. The

512
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:09.719
first time he went to prison in
the Gulag was because he told somebody where

513
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:15.519
they could buy a fire arm.
All right, That was five years in

514
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:22.800
the Gulag. The second time he
went to the Gulag was that he stole

515
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:34.079
a watermelon from the of course,
from the collective farms of the Soviet Communism.

516
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:39.480
He spent eighteen years in the Gulag. He told me they were stacking

517
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:49.800
bodies in the winter against the actual
prison houses to get them insulated from the

518
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:55.679
gold. And do you know what
about what year this would have been or

519
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:05.800
what decade at least? Yeah,
this was nineteen nineteen forty two, nineteen

520
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:15.920
sixty oh wow. Yeah. You
know, we hear these type of things

521
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:22.960
and we see them kind of portrayed
in movies, but until you actually see

522
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:27.679
these type of things for yourself,
it's really hard for a human to comprehend

523
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:38.400
the level of evil that exists in
our world. George, But then I'd

524
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:44.639
like to also mention that it's not
about the people being evil, right,

525
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:52.360
it's about the It's about the Okay, Like you know what the Bible says,

526
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:57.000
right, our war is not with
the flesh and blood, right,

527
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:05.920
but with the powers, with the
principalities. So I understand these people are

528
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:10.000
just doing what these demons want them
to do. I do not blame the

529
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:16.159
people, even though I want to. I want to, but I cannot

530
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:21.760
because it's not their fault. They're
under a delusion, under a spell.

531
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:27.079
Maybe I don't know. Just like
even today, let's say, okay,

532
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.679
so Biden, you think you think
Biden is doing something on his own.

533
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:36.960
He doesn't even know a day of
the week. It is not to be

534
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.519
mean or anything, but he's just
he's he's a you know, he's a

535
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:45.199
few cents short of a sandwich.
It's it's it's sad to me, really,

536
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.079
it's it's really sad. And his
wife should be ashamed of herself.

537
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:53.360
Well I guess what, I guess
it takes two to tango, right,

538
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:59.119
right, But even okay, Biden, you know what, I don't care.

539
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.800
I love Russian, I love Ukrainian, I love all those people in

540
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:09.039
the world. But I'm going to
say it like it is Putin. He's

541
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:15.800
a smart guy. But behind Putin
there's a power that controls Putin. Sure,

542
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:21.079
Putin does not do what he does
because he just woke up and said,

543
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:25.000
Okay, I'm gonna do this.
Now, there's a power behind Putin

544
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:30.320
that tells him what to do.
And just like there's a power behind Biden

545
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.800
that tells him what to do.
Just like there's a power behind every world

546
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:42.320
leader that tells them what to do. Just because we don't see it on

547
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:49.920
our normal human plane doesn't mean that
that doesn't exist, right. I would

548
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:55.079
venture to say that every leader of
every leader of every country in the world

549
00:51:55.119 --> 00:52:00.519
to the most extents, you know, saying some small Pacific island in the

550
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:05.000
middle of nowhere, But most of
these countries, whether it be Europe,

551
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.719
North America, South America, there
is a power behind them that controls them.

552
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:14.400
The people are figureheads, and they
certainly answer to a higher um authority.

553
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.639
We know in our cases, um, it's the bankers for the most

554
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:24.199
part. Do you think the rothschilds
are just like innocent? What did You're

555
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:29.599
sitting there in the backdrops thinking like, ah, we good, were good?

556
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:35.320
Somebody knows about us? No,
we know. Yeah, And the

557
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.559
banking industry was the downfall of Kaddafi. And I think it's going to be

558
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:45.079
the match that that lights go ahead, we'll start go ahead. Oh sorry,

559
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.719
do you know why the banking industry
in the banking industry was the downfall

560
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:59.360
of Kadafi because he wanted to start
a that this mineral based backed again,

561
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.039
it's not yat currency. He wanted
a currency that was exactly gold backed,

562
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:07.519
and that would have crushed the dollar
and the euro exactly. Well, that's

563
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.840
why I listened to you, because
you say it like it is, and

564
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.199
that's exactly what bricks is all about. And it's not a coincidence that they're

565
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:21.480
having their meeting on August twenty second, because August twenty second, nineteen seventy

566
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:27.119
one was the date that we went
off the gold standard and became Viat currency

567
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:36.000
exactly. And wasn't that Nixon?
Yeah, Nixon said, I'm sorry,

568
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.199
We're gonna have to go off the
gold standard for a little bit, right,

569
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:45.840
a little bit. And that's the
that's the thing. When we open

570
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:47.639
up the can of worms, there's
no going back. Just when they started

571
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.920
income tax way over one hundred years
ago, it's just going to be one

572
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:57.320
percent. It's just this one little
bit, and now it's like a quarter

573
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.280
of your income is going to these
monsters. Just a tiny bit, just

574
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.400
a quarter. That's not a lot. I mean, look at Bill Gates.

575
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:08.639
He can spend a quarter. Why
can't you spend a quarter? So

576
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:12.880
you know, the next time that
they try to suspend your freedoms, we

577
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.440
better have a better showing than we
did with COVID or else we're gonna get

578
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:24.960
rolled up. Let me ask a
question, George m Let's say that the

579
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:32.039
stuff were to hit the proverbial fan, right, as a Christian man,

580
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:38.719
how would you go about that?
Now when you say it hits the fan?

581
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:45.559
Are we talking there's some kind of
event between Ukraine and Russia and World

582
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:50.280
War three kicks off? Oh I
understand, Okay, So what exactly do

583
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:58.199
you mean? Okay, I will
paint you a picture. Okay, Let's

584
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:04.000
say let's say that Putin does do
what he promised to do to America if

585
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:08.840
they don't leave Russia alone. Right, And that's the other thing I wanted

586
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:19.239
to say. Putin has been very
I mean, how would I say this

587
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:23.519
without insulting anyone? What that it's
the best way to do is just to

588
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:29.880
say it, all right, So
Putin has been or Russia has been very

589
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:37.519
generous in terms of allowing NATO to
expand to the borders. They would not

590
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:44.679
be able to expand to because we
had an agreement between not we, but

591
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.360
you know they they write that wouldn't
move an inch closer to NATO, wouldn't

592
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:53.440
move an inch closer towards Russia.
Yeah, so that was before in nineteen

593
00:55:53.559 --> 00:56:01.880
ninety one when they had disarmament agreement, and then the USA and Russia the

594
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:08.239
ex Soviet bloc had an agreement to
where they were disarmed and US were disarmed

595
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:19.079
and the UN would not come any
closer than their original border. That's why

596
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:28.159
Russia withdrew from the eastern the Eastern
German front. Let's say, all right,

597
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:38.039
so between that and today, the
NATO has actually expanded to basically the

598
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:45.880
Ukrainian borders, which is borderline suicide. If you ask me to come to

599
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:50.880
Russia, like, let me ask
you this. If Russia were to put

600
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:59.440
bases on let's say, what Alaskan
soil or close to Alaskan soil would American

601
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.159
staff for of course not no.
Look what happened with the Cuban missile crisis

602
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:12.840
when Russia was in Cuba. So
my thing is, I understand Putin might

603
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:17.400
be wrong, but then again we
have to look at the circumstances of where.

604
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:23.320
And again I have to reiterate this
because some people might think I'm a

605
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.840
I'm an American hater or anything like
that. That's fine, you can think

606
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.719
that. But what I'm trying to
say is, well, look at the

607
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:43.960
amount of the leeway that the Russians
gave America. Would America give the same

608
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.079
leeway to the Russians were they to
do the same thing to America. Oh?

609
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:52.599
Absolutely not, of course not.
And now America, And you know

610
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:57.039
what, here's the thing. I
am an American. I don't care where

611
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:04.000
you say I took the oath.
I'm an American. I will protect America

612
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.079
no matter. If they didn't take
me previously, it might take me in

613
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:13.119
the future, right who knows.
Yeah, with conscription, like what's going

614
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:19.320
on in Ukraine right now, They're
they're drafting people in their fifties. Yeah.

615
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:23.840
But what I'm saying is that the
American people don't understand, like the

616
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:30.079
mass of American people, the boat
of American people, they don't understand that

617
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:37.360
Putin has waited, or Russia has
waited, or this has been piling up

618
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:45.039
to an extent that it cannot go
any further. And that's why Putin has

619
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:50.480
responded. Putin doesn't want to kill
Americans, he doesn't want to kill anyone.

620
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:55.360
He wants to be left alone.
He wants to be his own person,

621
00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:00.519
He wants the Russian Republic to be
their own people. Pool it doesn't

622
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:05.280
want any sanctions. And by the
way, let me ask you this.

623
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:14.039
They have what now ten pacts of
sanctions against Russia. Yeah, there's quite

624
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:19.079
a bit. Okay, do you
see Russia struggling? No, there,

625
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:24.159
the ruble has actually gotten stronger since
these things have happened. Yeah, a

626
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:28.000
little bit, not too much,
but yeah, they're they're okay, yeah,

627
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:32.840
they're on that level. But what
is America trying to prove? And

628
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:37.840
which actually brings me to another question. I think it was Thomas Jefferson that

629
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:45.320
said that we would do well to
stay away from foreign wars. Correct me

630
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:49.079
if I'm wrong, Yeah, that's
it. Yeah, yep, that sounds

631
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.280
about right. And uh, I
think I think the common thinking among every

632
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:58.320
American, particularly those who listen to
this podcast, is we would all do

633
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:04.960
what we needed to defend our country
if our actual way of living was threatened

634
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:13.159
and war came on our turf.
But they continued overthrowing of these governments that

635
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.760
we don't approve with, who doesn't
want to play ball with us, and

636
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:21.480
then expecting them to like us is
abhorrent. And you know, I got

637
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:24.679
very upset with some folks who you
know, I kept telling them about the

638
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:29.199
COVID narrative and they finally woke up
to it. And then when you know,

639
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:32.360
this kicked off and I guess twenty
a year or two ago when I

640
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:36.079
can't even remember when this kicked off. It's been so long now. I

641
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.400
think it was twenty twenty one maybe, or no, it was February twenty

642
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:45.400
twenty two. Were you thinking about
the first original when the twin hours came

643
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:50.840
down? And is that when you're
thinking about or something after the fact.

644
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:58.079
No, what I was saying was, so when Russia initially launched into Ukraine

645
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.840
a year and a half ago,
Yeah, the same people who fell for

646
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:07.519
the COVID narrative the first Yeah,
that sounds right there. Twenty two,

647
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:12.239
so it's been about a year and
a half. But these were the same

648
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.599
people who all of a sudden blindly
said Russia bad, Ukraine good, and

649
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:22.119
they knew nothing about us overthrowing the
duly elected government in twenty fourteen and the

650
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.679
shelling of eastern Ukraine. And once
again it goes back to everybody wants to

651
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:30.800
pick a side, and they always
fall for the official narrative, and everybody

652
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:36.480
had the Ukraine flags in their bios, and you try to explain the situation

653
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:45.440
which is much deeper in detail,
and official propaganda propaganda one, that's what

654
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:51.599
it is. Like I said again, I don't care if you're black,

655
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:54.960
white, Mexican, green, I
don't care if you're yellow. You're a

656
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:59.280
person. You're a person, you're
a human being, and we're all human

657
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.400
beings. I love you just the
same. But when you put up labels

658
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:07.440
on people like, oh, he's
not good enough because he's of this origin

659
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:14.559
or of that origin. No,
look, I have a person, bro,

660
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:21.239
black person named Sean Fletcher, the
hardest working dude I ever knew in

661
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:27.400
my life. I still talked to
this guy. He actually text messages me

662
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.519
every now and then saying, hey, bro, how are you doing?

663
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:36.760
Yeah? I'm doing well, how
are you doing? And this guy,

664
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:42.360
it's not about race. It's not
about inequality. It's just about like,

665
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.760
person to person, how are you
doing, bro, Yeah, We're good.

666
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:54.320
How are you doing? Yeah?
And we're brainwashed to believe that the

667
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:58.519
other people in the world are just
terrible, terrible people. I was brainwashed

668
01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:02.039
to believe that I Keys were evil
people and they didn't believe in freedom.

669
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.880
And by the time I got done, by the time I retired, and

670
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:08.679
I've been to well, you know, twenty countries or whatever, everybody's the

671
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:13.760
same around the world. Everybody just
works to take care of their family and

672
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:15.840
they hope they have a few bucks
left over to have a little bit of

673
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:21.119
fun. It's that that's everybody around
the world. But the propaganda that the

674
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:24.039
people who controlled the narrative wants you
to believe that, you know, we

675
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:30.360
brought freedom to Iraq by dropping bombs
on them, It's just absurd. Did

676
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:37.119
we did we bring freedom to them? Did? Yeah? Did we bring

677
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:43.199
freedom to all right by dropping bombs
on them? Absolutely not. We enslaved

678
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:47.719
them with the debt system. Yeah, and now they're paying the US back

679
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:52.679
yep, because what because the Yeah, you see, here's the thing.

680
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:57.280
I don't want to be a person
that says negative anything about the us.

681
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:03.079
But then again, on the other
hand, I cannot not say that we

682
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:13.519
have enslaved people because we were so
committed to following our leaders to a place

683
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:18.599
we did not know, to a
place we didn't understand, to something that

684
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:25.440
we were lied to. I don't
know, man, Yeah, it goes

685
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:30.440
back to we have to stop complying, you know, when when something doesn't

686
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.360
align with our moral compass. We
got to do a better job of saying,

687
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:38.079
no, number one, you work
for us, we don't work for

688
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:43.519
you. And number two, no, we're not going to go, you

689
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:50.000
know, fight these bankers' wars unfortunately. Yeah, you know, money is

690
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:53.400
you know, we talk about being
enslaved, and we talk about what a

691
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:57.000
powerful tool money is. You know, when you're in the military, you're

692
01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.280
working for that pension. When you're
a police officer, you're working for that

693
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.760
pension. So we're always putting that
spot. Yeah, is this going to

694
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:06.239
jeopardize my pension if I don't do? You know, it's just a really

695
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:12.880
wacky world that we have right now. Yeah, I hear that, And

696
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:18.480
that's exactly what I heard from what
my parents told me, is that they

697
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:25.880
were just trying to get their pension. Yeah, you're not telling me anything

698
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.079
new. Yeah, it is.
It's the biggest catch twenty two. Right.

699
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:34.239
You want to live by your moral
compass at the same time you want

700
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:40.559
to be able to take care of
your family. And it's just and that

701
01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:43.559
goes to I had mentioned several times
before the guys who had been in the

702
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:47.000
military for fifteen sixteen years when twenty
twenty one came around and they had to

703
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.840
make a decision to take the jab
or or potentially give up their pension for

704
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.800
everything they work so hard for.
That, that's just how And again,

705
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:57.679
it's not the people of this country. And I've made it clearer many times,

706
01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:00.760
just like you are tonight. It's
the people the top of the food

707
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:05.079
chain that are ruining this country.
And then again, okay, so if

708
01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:11.159
they are ruining the country, what
can we as a people do to combat

709
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:15.280
that? Walk away from the current
system that they've assembled because it's not working,

710
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:20.480
right, But what would that take
us too? Let's say, okay,

711
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:24.280
so you say you want to walk
away from all that, right,

712
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:29.559
absolutely, what can we Yeah,
what can we do as a people to

713
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.400
walk away from that? Well,
it has to start and we have that

714
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:35.079
right, not just in the constitution. Again, people are quick to say

715
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:41.519
the Constitution, particularly you know,
you can look at the number two there

716
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:44.920
when it talks about having the right
to have a militia, but also the

717
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:48.159
second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence
that says, hey, listen, if

718
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:51.920
your government goes rogue and does not
look out for the best interests of the

719
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:57.760
people, it's our responsibility to you
know, to get rid of it and

720
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:04.159
start over again. And I'm convinced
that it is beyond repair. Just uh,

721
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:10.480
we're somewhere between I think thirty two
and thirty three trillion dollars in debt.

722
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:15.119
We're going to have a very difficult
time just making the interest payment of

723
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:21.719
the next interest payment. That's a
big problem. And again we know here's

724
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:25.800
a big part of the problem.
You have to know who the enemy is

725
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:30.840
in order to fight it. But
when your president isn't even writing anything,

726
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:34.440
well, I mean, when we're
at it this time frame, this is

727
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:39.800
a spiritual war. We're fighting Satan. This is good against evil. But

728
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:45.599
physically, um um. If I
were to name something, you'd have to

729
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.800
look at the corporatocracy that's that's taken
hold of this country. The guy who

730
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:53.639
runs Black Rock is certainly one of
the figureheads. He gained a lot of

731
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:57.360
power in two thousand and eight when
we had our financial crisis. Um,

732
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:00.960
what about George sorif here there too? Sous is in there. Obviously,

733
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:08.400
the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers are the
ones responsible for the education system. Many

734
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:12.559
people say there's about a group of
eight thousand people who control the entire world,

735
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:15.560
and that sounds about right to me. About thirteen families is what I

736
01:08:15.680 --> 01:08:18.399
heard. Yep, yep. And
then of course the Vatican as well.

737
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:28.279
Yeah, yeah, obviously, why
where would be we be without them?

738
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:30.399
Um, well, we wouldn't have
a telescope named Lucifer. Nothing to ski

739
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:34.680
here, nothing to see here,
do you think? So yeah, yeah,

740
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:40.039
let's let's put a big plane in
the sky and column Lucifer. Why

741
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:47.359
not? Just it's nice, it's
incredible. So what else did you see

742
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:55.119
in the military that like turned you
off of the government service? The contracts?

743
01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:59.279
The contracts. As a senior n
CEO, UM, I got to

744
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.560
right contracts. But I also there's
a contracting officer who was the one that

745
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:09.039
writes contracts, and then there's a
contrast a contract officer representative, which is

746
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:15.920
the one that takes the contract and
ensures they are fulfilled correctly. And when

747
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:23.159
these contracts came through my desk and
I saw the amount of money, you

748
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:30.279
know, twenty five thousand dollars for
this concrete pad, these vests that had

749
01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:33.000
air conditioned in them there, you
know, twenty three thousand dollars apiece.

750
01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:38.399
Just the amount of money because we
would be responsible for a lot of these

751
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:43.039
things going on unit's property books,
which is how you account for equipment,

752
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:47.600
and the numbers were staggering, absolutely
staggering. We had every unit, every

753
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:53.880
battalion has their own support, like
they have cooks and they have laundry services.

754
01:09:54.239 --> 01:10:00.800
But what did we what did the
government do? They hired Kellogg,

755
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:05.359
Brown and Route to do all those
services for us, So instead of allowing

756
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:10.520
the military to do their job,
they contracted everything, whether it be laundry,

757
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.439
food services to feed us, the
latrines. Everything was contracted out.

758
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:24.359
So the military industrial complex. You
have no idea trillions upon trillions of dollars

759
01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:30.039
that the people at the top were
enriched. And how old are you?

760
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:35.520
If I could ask, I am
fifty four years old. Yes, that's

761
01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:41.600
young still. Yeah, I'm like
a police cruiser that's two years old.

762
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.439
It's got like three hundred thousand miles
on it. I got army miles on

763
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:49.439
it. I heard you say before
that every year you're spending on the military

764
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:55.520
is like seven years that you spend
in civilian life. Yeah, you don't

765
01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:59.159
get a good night's sleep, and
when you wake up, it's a it's

766
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:01.600
an event. Just again out of
bed and you get yourself moving and once

767
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:04.600
you get going, you're okay.
But you know, i'd like to complain

768
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:10.000
if I don't want anybody feeling sorry
for me. No, that's not the

769
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:17.239
point. The point is, did
you see anything in your military service that

770
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:24.119
would point you were that you could
use to point someone else in the right

771
01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:30.199
direction? Is what I'm figure out, actually point them in the right direction.

772
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:35.840
As far as government abuse that we
should be aware of or yeah,

773
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:40.119
oh geez, I mean the contracts
were the biggest thing. Now, there

774
01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:43.680
were a lot of things that I
didn't see but people knew about. We

775
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:46.319
crossed the berm in March what was
it, March twenty third, two thousand

776
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:49.319
and three, and by the second
week of April, we were we were

777
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:57.359
taking historical relics and this was deserved
freedom, right, this was Iraqi freedom.

778
01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:00.359
In two thousand and three the second
this is okay, and you were

779
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:04.159
taking you were taking away, he
said, not not me physically, but

780
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:08.600
but there were units that were taking
his I mean, this is well known

781
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:14.439
that we were raiding all of their
historical UM archives. And of course you

782
01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:19.399
can look online. They found Gilgamesh's
tune a month after we you're speaking,

783
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:23.359
you're speaking to the right person.
I'm going to ask you so many questions.

784
01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:27.600
You're gonna regret have him me on
the show. I mean, it's

785
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:30.079
big time. And you know,
whether or not you believe Wiki leaks or

786
01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:33.159
not. There was a lot of
things in there about the relics that were

787
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:40.359
found in Iraq. So was it
multifaceted? Was it because um? And

788
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:45.600
again people need to remember that Saddam
Hussein was our buddy for many many years.

789
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:49.359
We put him into power, yes, and this is the story.

790
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:54.039
When we're done with them, we
get rid of them. UM. So

791
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:57.079
you know, we used him,
just like we're using Zilinski right now to

792
01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:03.880
fight against Russia. We use He's
four pet tall. Who who wants this

793
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:08.880
guy living in a country. He's
a comedian, he's an actor. I

794
01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:12.439
don't percent did you oh, did
you see the video where he plays the

795
01:13:12.479 --> 01:13:15.439
piano. Yes, yes, I
think everybody's seen that. Yeah, yeah,

796
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:20.319
that's and now he's now he's running
in the country. I feel embarrassed

797
01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:26.840
as Ukrainian just to even see that
video. My parents when they saw that

798
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.880
video, they just like they they
turned away and they walked back into the

799
01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:35.600
room. They were done. Now, obviously, let me ask you a

800
01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:41.159
question. The closer you get to
Eastern Ukraine, I guess from what I

801
01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:45.279
what I hear, the more allegiance
people have to Russia. But with the

802
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:50.319
situations that's going on like in Ukraine, do you have an idea what the

803
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:59.640
morale is and are they still supporting
this regime? As far as the regime

804
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:03.800
you're talking about, are you talking
about the Ukrainian regime or you're talking about

805
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:14.920
the NATO regime, the Ukrainian regime
and zank etc. So to be to

806
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:30.279
be straightforward and clear, nobody liked
the Ukrainian regime since twenty fourteen. In

807
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:40.159
twenty fourteen, the reason everything happened
was that those territories in um let's say,

808
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:50.760
in the eastern part of Ukraine,
they did not recognize the not the

809
01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:58.800
power, the authority of the Ukrainian
government. Even when not even Lenski,

810
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:04.880
not even Prosenco that they didn't Yeah, they did not recognize the regime of

811
01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:15.479
Porsenko even before he was president,
so they didn't recognize it when they had

812
01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:29.600
I think they had a but there
was a vote between Proshenko and the one

813
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:34.880
before him was Jennukovich. Sorry,
I had to revert back and forth.

814
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:43.159
Two Ukrainian and yeah, in no
way. So in twenty fourteen, in

815
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:51.880
twenty fourteen, we had the president
that was not Porshenko, it was Janukovich.

816
01:15:55.479 --> 01:16:01.239
And if I am not mistaken,
I could be mistaken. So don't

817
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:08.560
take this as a fact. But
in twenty fourteen, apparently what I know,

818
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:17.319
what I heard was that some troops
came in and helped out Poroshenko to

819
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:30.680
establish a government. Now that government
belonged to Yanukovich, and Yanukovich is the

820
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:36.279
guy that ran away from his presidency
because the people forced him out. Now

821
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:42.279
my question now is did the people
force him out or did some other entity

822
01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:46.640
that came into the country to force
him out? And this is my million

823
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:53.640
dollar question. Did you see a
correlation between what happened in February of twenty

824
01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:59.680
fourteen in Ukraine and what you saw
happened in the United States in twenty twenty.

825
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:04.399
You mean twenty twenty January sixth,
Well, I'm talking about the Summer

826
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:11.720
of Love, all the coordinated riots
and of course voting by mail because of

827
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:15.960
the COVID and then obviously to me, I'm not going to speak for you,

828
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:20.880
but I think my squirrel that hangs
out in my apple tree out front

829
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:25.880
would would have a better chance to
get eighty one million votes versus Joe Biden.

830
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:34.479
Is that squirrel actually dead? Not
yet? Once she's dead, I

831
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:42.840
don't know. Yes, I believe
that. I mean, here's the thing,

832
01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:46.680
don't give me a wrong. I
love the US. I came here

833
01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:50.960
for a sanctuary. Yeah, my
parents came here for a sanctuary and they

834
01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:58.960
got that. But the longer we
lived in the US, the more we

835
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:09.279
the progressiveness of the communistic ideal here. So when you asked me to answer

836
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:14.920
that question, it's like I have
to nark on my own people, which

837
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:19.880
I hate. And guess what,
America. I love America. These are

838
01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:26.960
my people. I left the Ukraine
behind, that's behind me. And now

839
01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:30.560
you're saying, now you are asking, do I see the parallel? Yes,

840
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:44.560
I do. I just yeah,
I agree and I do know,

841
01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:46.359
I can't answer it. Yeah,
yeah, no, I get it.

842
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.119
It is hard. I had a
friend who I served with. We had

843
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:54.600
a conversation a while ago and he
had mentioned, he said, you know

844
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:58.640
what our country is like. He
said, you remember having that friend when

845
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:00.279
you were growing up. They had
a bigger house than you, and they

846
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:04.239
had nicer cars than you, and
you you admire them. And then you

847
01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:10.279
had a chance to spend some time
there and then and then you found out

848
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:14.199
that, you know, the dad
was a bank rubber and the mother was

849
01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:17.720
doing illicit stuff. That that kind
of was the analogy that he used,

850
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:23.680
is like, we enjoy all these
luxuries at the misery of other countries.

851
01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:29.800
That's that's one hundred percent. Yeah, I've seen that before and that's how

852
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:32.560
I see it. But here's the
thing. The thing is that if people

853
01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:42.000
in America to date can understand the
communism that they are trying to bring about

854
01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:51.439
in America, they do not understand
fully what that entails, because what that

855
01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:59.319
entails is rules for me, but
not for thee. What I'm saying,

856
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:01.560
you are exactly spot on, And
I use that phrase a lot. And

857
01:20:01.640 --> 01:20:05.760
when was the last time any government
official has been held accountable for anything.

858
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:12.840
Never, I mean never, never
when tell me tell me about the freaking

859
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:18.920
Biden son. Yeah, here's some
white powder found in some white house something

860
01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:23.760
what who? Who got it?
I don't know. Yeah, we have

861
01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:27.840
the greatest, you know, criminal
minds in the world and they can't even

862
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:30.159
figure out who the cocaine belongs to. Are you kidding me? But on

863
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:36.079
DNA evidence they can convict fifteen thousand
people because they got DNA, you know

864
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:45.239
What's Yeah, it's just so it
it so hurts my understanding of the American

865
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:50.840
freedom that it just I can't,
I can't. I have no worse to

866
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:56.760
describe it. Yeah, And we
are getting closer and closer than nineteen eighty

867
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.239
four. And I've often said that
technology is a double double edged sword.

868
01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:02.880
We embrace it. You know.
Here we are having a conversation. You're

869
01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:05.600
you're in Central America right now,
and I'm on the East coast, and

870
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:09.479
we're having this conversation and it's going
to go out to listeners around the world

871
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:13.439
this week. But at the same
time, it is used against us.

872
01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:16.800
This has become a surveillance world.
And if you remember that movie Minority Report,

873
01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:23.119
We're getting closer and closer to pre
conversation. Yeah, exactly, you

874
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:26.680
think you see, that's that's the
whole point. The whole point is that

875
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:31.239
I thought that I was in fear
from or I'm in fear for my life.

876
01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:39.000
You're done. As soon as anybody
says I'm in fear for my life,

877
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:44.079
I've been. I had police officers
say I was in fear for my

878
01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:57.000
life and write me a ticket for
what passing? Yeah, this is uh,

879
01:21:57.079 --> 01:22:00.439
yeah, this, this was not
what America was intended to do.

880
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.439
And again it all goes back to
accountability. As long as they're not held

881
01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:10.399
accountable, they're going to keep trampling
us one hundred per Let me ask you

882
01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:13.760
this, I'm want to put Have
you put on your fortune hat, your

883
01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:18.319
fortune teller hat? And where do
you think this Let's just say six months

884
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:21.079
from now, where do you think
we're at in the world with Russia and

885
01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:26.800
Ukraine? And do you think it's
inevitable something happens and this kicks off World

886
01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:38.239
War three? Or do you think
otherwise? If I were to be honest,

887
01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:42.680
I would say, well, I'm
being honest, so I will say

888
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:54.159
this, I see if nothing else
changes currently, so America doesn't back down

889
01:22:54.279 --> 01:23:01.520
America doesn't stop sending tanks and missiles
and whatever they do to Ukraine. Right,

890
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:10.560
America stopped sending monetary aid. If
they don't stop doing all of that,

891
01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:18.880
I think Putin will inevitably And again
I'm sorry for saying this, but

892
01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:30.119
yeah, I think that he will
strike the US something that will make America

893
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:36.039
realize that they are not the soul
superpower in the world. And again,

894
01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:43.119
I hate saying this because America is
the country I grew up in. This

895
01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:49.119
is my country. I'm an American. Just because I was born in Ukraine

896
01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:54.279
doesn't mean that I don't love this
country. I've been all over this country.

897
01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:59.039
But this is the way things are
going. Yeah, and let me

898
01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:01.119
let me ask you this. How
older were you when you started to realize

899
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:04.279
when you could see right like and
they live, when you put on the

900
01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:06.960
glasses and you could really see what's
going on? How long have you kind

901
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:13.239
of been awake to the situation.
So I came to America when I was

902
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:17.840
eight. Yeah, I went through
all the public schools all that. When

903
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:25.800
I first started to know this something
was when I was eighteen when they told

904
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:30.399
me that I couldn't join up the
military because I had a couple of traffic

905
01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:34.760
citations I didn't care, didn't take
care of. And then I was like,

906
01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:44.439
okay, hold on, so you're
going to you're gonna not let me

907
01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:49.359
into the military. I want to
join up because in the former USSR that

908
01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:57.840
was a mandatory thing. Right when
you were eighteen, you were mandatorily joined

909
01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:03.560
up with the forces. So I
was thinking young and dumb, right,

910
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:09.319
full of anything. So I was
thinking out there, so I'm eighteen,

911
01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:15.840
so somebody should contact me, but
nobody does, so let me contact these

912
01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:19.960
armed forces I would like to serve. And then they came to the college

913
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.880
that was taking classes at and they
said, well, we can't accept you

914
01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:30.119
because you have you have three tickets
that you did not take care of,

915
01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:36.439
so you're making payments but they're not
all paid up. And I said,

916
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:45.279
okay, I'm sorry. I guess
we're not meant for each other. And

917
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:49.119
after that, I was like,
all right, there's something wrong with this

918
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:57.359
because in my country previously, so
that doesn't matter what you owe, doesn't

919
01:25:57.399 --> 01:26:04.600
matter what you did, you were
serving the country. So then after that

920
01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:16.479
happened about two years after that,
twenty twenty one happened twenty hours and then

921
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:28.000
after I've seen that happen. Somebody
sent me a video um saying nine to

922
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:32.039
eleven was a inside job, right
yeah. And then I said, no,

923
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:36.399
no, no, it cannot be. This cannot happen in America.

924
01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:41.199
America is the land of the free, humble, the brave. This cannot

925
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:46.399
happen in America. I did not
come to this country to be fooled by

926
01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:56.039
this stupid crap. Right. But
then I looked at the here's here's the

927
01:26:56.039 --> 01:27:01.920
twenty part. I looked at the
JP eight fuel temperature yea. And I

928
01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:13.039
looked up the steel melt temperature.
They were the JP eight was about fifteen

929
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:18.840
to twenty one hundred degrees burn temperature, that's depending on what the Internet says.

930
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:27.119
And the steel melt temperature was twenty
five to three thousand degree melt temperature.

931
01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:30.960
And I said to myself, bro, no, something's not right.

932
01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:40.319
Yeah. And the way they fell, certainly, the way they fell.

933
01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:47.680
Did you see that three fall?
Absolutely? Yeah. And the squibs they're

934
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:51.760
called when the little smoke pops out
the sides. That is, if you

935
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:57.840
google any building that that's imploded,
you know, look at the old baseball

936
01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:00.479
stadiums or you know it happens all
the time. They implode the old building

937
01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:04.720
and they build a new one.
You'll see something called squibs. Squibs,

938
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:10.680
and that's the little smoke things that
pop out the windows when they pop them.

939
01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:13.119
And it was the same thing on
World Trade Center six. And of

940
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:16.199
course there was the the early videos
of the guys who were in the basement

941
01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:21.359
saying I heard the explosions, explosions
and that word we used on and on

942
01:28:21.399 --> 01:28:26.199
and on that day. And of
course with the scrubbing of YouTube, those

943
01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:30.199
videos are getting harder and harder to
find. Well, I still have them

944
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:35.279
backed up on my how would you
say on my DVDs? There you go.

945
01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:39.319
Yeah, I've got a hard drive
full as well. And there's a

946
01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:43.319
lot of people, God bless them
that still to this day, like once

947
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:47.039
a week we'll post loose chains and
all, you know, the little video

948
01:28:47.039 --> 01:28:55.359
clips about the Larry Silverstein, the
dancing Israeli. Why did what the tower

949
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:58.319
eight? Why did that come down? White? Oh you mean tower seven?

950
01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:01.520
Let's bullet, I don't know,
let's pull it. Like buildings are

951
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:05.640
always that they come built with C
four already in them, just in case

952
01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:10.720
they need to be pulled, right, I just want to the to the

953
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:14.359
skin about theirs and yeah, I
missed that ship. But you know what,

954
01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:18.920
let's let's pull this building because you
know why not. See, here's

955
01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:25.199
the thing, like, why do
people resist the actual truth? Is it

956
01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:32.399
somehow is it somehow connected to the
what's that thing called? When you have

957
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:38.760
a belief already pre pre pre made
in you, what do they call?

958
01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:41.760
Yeah, well it challenges your your
I guess are you talking about, like

959
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:46.439
your cognitive dissonance? And yes,
cognitive dissonance, thank you. Yeah,

960
01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:51.359
why wouldn't you believe that? Because
people live in a comfortable world. They

961
01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:56.520
don't like to be stressed. They
want to believe that, you know that.

962
01:29:56.760 --> 01:29:59.560
And I'm just saying what they want
to believe. They believe in the

963
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:01.319
best kind in the world. They
drive a nice car, they have a

964
01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:04.960
nice house, they have a good
paying job. This is the best country

965
01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:10.359
in the world. It is,
yea. And for everyone else to say,

966
01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:15.720
it's not go everywhere else and prove
me wrong, but to freaking Nigeria,

967
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:19.760
go anywhere else, to me that
that country is better than the US.

968
01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:30.239
Never yep. And the thing is
those things challenge and it wholesale changes

969
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:36.880
the way you look at life,
and people don't want that. And they

970
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:42.079
also say they stand somehow how else
can you make them understand if they cannot

971
01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.479
believe? How do we do this? George? Because here's the other thing

972
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:49.000
that I'm told all the time,
they wouldn't do that against their own people,

973
01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:53.159
Like That's that's the common answer I
get anytime I try to have a

974
01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:56.920
conversation about someone with nine to eleven, and I try to tell them that

975
01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:00.880
people like the Bush family and the
Clintons and on and on and on,

976
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:05.640
Um, don't even give me started
on my clients. They don't think the

977
01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:09.560
same way we do. George Bush
went to bed that night and slept all

978
01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:14.359
night without two perhaps about anything.
No, No, they don't think like

979
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:21.720
us. They're they're psychopaths. That's
unfortunate, but that's who we have as

980
01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:31.239
leaders. Yep. Doesn't the Bible
say that the people deserve the leader they

981
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:39.199
get or to that extent something?
Yeah. Absolutely. And there's a lot

982
01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:43.680
of people I talked to on this
podcast and the other podcast that say,

983
01:31:44.079 --> 01:31:46.640
um, we are this is what
they say, we deserve what we're getting

984
01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:51.199
right now because we allow, um, we allow this evil to fester.

985
01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:56.239
That that's what I get a lot
recently. Yeah, but nobody cares.

986
01:31:56.800 --> 01:32:01.439
Everybody sees the evil, everybody sees
the evil festering, but nobody raises their

987
01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:06.760
voice to say anything. I understand
if this was a Soviet block or if

988
01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:12.560
this was a communist country, like
let's say China, let's say North Korea.

989
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:18.279
Right, I get that. But
this is America. This is supposedly

990
01:32:18.319 --> 01:32:24.760
a country where you can speak your
mind and nobody will tell you anything otherwise.

991
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:31.000
How did it come to be this
way that we cannot speak what we

992
01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:36.640
believe, we cannot speak what we
think is right even let me okay,

993
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:44.000
let me tell you this. So
you've ever been called into a jury duty

994
01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:49.560
or anything like that. Okay,
So basically, what does the judge tell

995
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:56.399
you when you go into jury duty? Well, first they ask you a

996
01:32:56.399 --> 01:33:00.920
bunch of questions. Because I've been
to jury selections, I've never made it

997
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:06.199
to an actual trial. Huh,
I wonder why. Well, I mean

998
01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:11.840
I didn't. I didn't say anything
out of the ordinary. It was in

999
01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:15.720
Texas, and it was it was
a simple traffic thing. It wasn't even

1000
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:17.279
a big deal. I mean I
was the whole time I was an army.

1001
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:23.159
I didn't get obviously I was kind
of abstained from Jerry Doody, but

1002
01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:27.600
I was a resident in Texas and
I did get called one time and it

1003
01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:31.520
ended up they ended up settling or
something. It was really small time.

1004
01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:34.920
But my wife she's done it several
times, and she's been called to do

1005
01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:42.920
federal in Wilmington, Delaware this fall. Interesting. Yeah, Now, did

1006
01:33:42.920 --> 01:33:45.640
you know? I mean, of
course you know because you grew up in

1007
01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:50.039
America and you're an American, full
blood in American. Right. It's not

1008
01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:56.039
like me where I came in and
I'm like no one right. So my

1009
01:33:56.199 --> 01:34:00.720
question is, did you know that
if you do not agree with the law

1010
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:06.439
that is correct, then you can
say whatever you want. Do you mean

1011
01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:11.960
it as a jur Yeah, as
a juror, if you do not find

1012
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:15.439
the law correct, if you do
not agree with the law, you could

1013
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:19.239
say I do not agree with the
law, and they should actually take that

1014
01:34:19.399 --> 01:34:24.840
at face value. But do they
know because the judges give you instructions,

1015
01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:29.520
you shall follow what I say that's
right, not what you think what I

1016
01:34:29.720 --> 01:34:33.880
say. Who is this judge?
Who put you in position? Who are

1017
01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:42.720
you that's right? These jurors sit
through an entire trial and just before they

1018
01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:45.039
go back to kind of huddle up
and talk about it. You get the

1019
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:49.560
law talk from the judge. Yeah, and that just says what now you

1020
01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:55.520
shall do this follow my instruction.
This is what I think, Broke.

1021
01:34:55.680 --> 01:35:00.319
Who are you to tell me what
to think? We have the constitution that

1022
01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:04.720
allows us to think for ourselves.
If I do not believe this law is

1023
01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:11.920
just, I do not agree with
this law. I will either vote,

1024
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.920
know, or whatever you do.
But you cannot tell me what to do.

1025
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:24.479
Maybe I'm thinking it too far because
I have not been brought up in

1026
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:31.920
this much freedom that I assumed America
had. I've been brought up in limited

1027
01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:41.279
freedom, not even freedom to say. But as much as I understand,

1028
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:48.640
I believe that, Gwen, I
understand a law that I determine myself personally

1029
01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:55.640
not to be just, I can
just say I do not believe this law

1030
01:35:55.760 --> 01:36:00.119
is just. Therefore I'm gonna say
it's not just. Therefore I can say

1031
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:05.439
I don't he's not guilty, He's
not right, He's not guilty. The

1032
01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:13.439
law is unjust. That is my
determination. You know what I'm saying.

1033
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:17.920
As I'm sure listen, there's many
laws in the books here in Delaware.

1034
01:36:18.720 --> 01:36:23.560
I don't that go against my moral
compass? So I should be able to

1035
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:27.520
uh speak freely about that, whether
it be you know, in an open

1036
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:30.920
form or in a courtroom. So
how come the judge tells you what to

1037
01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:36.159
do before you actually make a decision? Tell me this, George, tell

1038
01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:51.479
me this. Are you there?
Yeah? Okay, Yeah, it's yeah.

1039
01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:56.199
I'm just saying, like, if
you understand what you're saying, that

1040
01:36:57.279 --> 01:37:03.319
you couldn't say whatever you understand is
right or morally right? Why can you

1041
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:10.600
not say that in a courtroom?
Yeah? That's why can they not agree

1042
01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:14.199
with you? Or why can they
not respect or why can they not follow

1043
01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:16.840
what you believe is right or not? Well, the scholar, do they

1044
01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:21.439
have to tell you that you have
to only vote this way or the other

1045
01:37:21.479 --> 01:37:25.840
way? Right? Who are the
judges to tell you what you have to

1046
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:30.039
do? Well, the scholarly answer
would be, well, if you have

1047
01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:32.720
a problems with the laws that are
on the books, well you should run

1048
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:39.399
for office and be a part of
changing these laws. That's that's the scholarly

1049
01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:45.479
answer you're going to get. But
we all know that to even get going

1050
01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:48.159
to be elected into office anytime soon, I guarantee you, Oh no,

1051
01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:53.600
of course not. Uh No,
they're selected you know, outside of you

1052
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:57.960
know, local school boards and things
like that. Um, these these people

1053
01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:02.159
are hand picked. And there's no
way you can go upon go against the

1054
01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:06.720
financing that some of these people have. No And that's the whole problem.

1055
01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:11.880
The problem is the financing. Why
why do we have financing? Who is

1056
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:18.239
financing these people? People like Sauros
hundred percent? Did you know in fact

1057
01:38:18.359 --> 01:38:26.920
that Lenin? I cannot say anything
positive about Lenin, but did you know

1058
01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:32.600
that Lenin when he was in New
York? I believe it was nineteen fourteen,

1059
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:40.640
if I'm not mistaken, Lenin was
in New York nineteen fourteen, will

1060
01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:45.399
give me a couple of years back
and forward. But he left here with

1061
01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:54.640
twenty million dollars and that type of
money going back to Russia. Now,

1062
01:38:54.680 --> 01:39:00.560
they stopped him in England because they
were like, bro, you doing with

1063
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:10.079
all this money? And they jailed
him. But somebody told somebody something and

1064
01:39:10.279 --> 01:39:14.119
he was let go, and then
he made it back to Russia and he

1065
01:39:14.199 --> 01:39:20.159
started the revolution. Was forgive me? What was was Lennin here about the

1066
01:39:20.199 --> 01:39:27.880
same time Trotsky arrived yep okay,
yeah? And Trotsky was actually jailed in

1067
01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:33.600
Canada. That's right, that's right, that's right. And I don't know

1068
01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:36.680
if it's still there. But there
was actually a statue of Lennin in New

1069
01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:41.880
York City? Is there or there
was? I don't know about now,

1070
01:39:41.920 --> 01:39:46.520
but yeah there was. How do
you how do you explain? I just

1071
01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:58.439
don't understand. I don't know.
I don't know. What are you gonna

1072
01:39:58.479 --> 01:40:00.159
do? What? What are you
going to do? Of course that's the

1073
01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:04.000
million dollar question. What we've got
about? I got about ten minutes left.

1074
01:40:04.079 --> 01:40:09.159
Was there anything that we haven't really
touched on yet that you had on

1075
01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:15.760
your list of things to speak about? Well, if I was to say

1076
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:20.399
anything, it would be this.
People, beware what you vote for,

1077
01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:28.640
because maybe what you vote for is
not exactly what you want. Even Trump,

1078
01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:31.600
Yeah, everybody says Trump, Yeah, good guy, everything else.

1079
01:40:32.439 --> 01:40:38.800
Trump is not the person do you
think he is? Trump? Yeah?

1080
01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:43.199
Trump? I like Trump the first
time, But even you can say that,

1081
01:40:43.319 --> 01:40:46.279
yeah, Trump passes his own issues. Biden has his own issues.

1082
01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:50.840
Trump has his own. Nobody is
a savior. No one's gonna save us.

1083
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:55.920
If anyone is going to save us, it's the people that rise up

1084
01:40:55.920 --> 01:41:00.880
and say no, we're done.
We had enough, got the firearms.

1085
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:05.479
We will stand against the government.
Yeah, and when we and people need

1086
01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:10.800
to stop looking to elites thinking that
they're going to help you out, because

1087
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:14.520
nothing is further from the truth.
You know, even Trump again, I

1088
01:41:14.640 --> 01:41:17.720
was part of the Trump train in
twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, and he

1089
01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:21.680
didn't I've heard all I heard all
your sermons, bro, I got you.

1090
01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:27.920
I was there. But you know, he didn't arrest Hillary, he

1091
01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:30.239
didn't drain the swamp. The swamp
just got deeper. And at some point

1092
01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:34.119
people need to realize that to me, this is me speaking, the only

1093
01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:38.199
two people that can save you was
the person in the mirror and Jesus Christ

1094
01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:43.760
Us Christ only not even you.
Yeah, not even the person in the

1095
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.840
mirror. That's all I gotta say. I'm sorry. Yeah, but at

1096
01:41:46.920 --> 01:41:49.800
least yourself, you know, you
can rely on, but people always look

1097
01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:57.119
to others. That was, you
know, part of that twenty twenty you

1098
01:41:57.159 --> 01:42:00.560
know, the rumors of the white
hats within the government that we're gonna say

1099
01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:06.479
yes, yeah, yeah, they
would like to hear themselves say it,

1100
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:10.760
right, okay, Yeah. And
the blunt truth is it's going to take

1101
01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:14.560
a lot of hard times and sacrifice
in order to get things back to where

1102
01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:18.399
they need to be. And that's
just the honest truth. What I'm going

1103
01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:24.479
to say is this, if you're
hearing this message, and get some chickens

1104
01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:28.560
and get some get something, get
some food, get some rations, get

1105
01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:36.079
something, I mean, and get
something stowed away. But do it.

1106
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:42.960
Because we don't know where this is
going. I can predict all I want.

1107
01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:47.880
That's not going to be true.
Just make sure you take care of

1108
01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:54.479
yourself, your family right, make
sure God knows you, make sure you

1109
01:42:54.560 --> 01:43:00.840
know God. That's all. Amen
to that, and uh, you know,

1110
01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:05.159
I'm so thankful you reached out.
And you know, we talk often

1111
01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:11.079
about the situation that's going on in
Eastern Europe, and it's good to hear

1112
01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:16.119
someone who is actually from that neck
of the woods who understands what's on the

1113
01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:21.000
line and also has um you know, my wife talks about this a lot

1114
01:43:21.039 --> 01:43:27.199
too. Has been in a place
where you know, freedoms were taken for

1115
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:30.239
granted or did it have that many
freedoms and came here for a better life

1116
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:35.920
and now it's slowly eroding back to
where she started out, so uh,

1117
01:43:36.119 --> 01:43:41.760
we need to start. She was
from Hungary, she was in Capish far

1118
01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:45.479
which is three hours. I don't
know if it was southwest or southeast or

1119
01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:53.520
just south from Budapest. What time
about in years? Well, she was

1120
01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:58.680
born in seventy seven and born American
or she born in Hungry Oh no,

1121
01:43:58.680 --> 01:44:00.520
no, no, she's she was
born and Hungary. She came, I

1122
01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:04.399
married her, and I brought her
to America when she was twenty two twenty

1123
01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:09.359
three something like that. So she
got a little bit of that life in

1124
01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:12.960
Hungry. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, so she knows what we're talking

1125
01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:16.239
about, right a thousand percent?
Yeah, yeah, And that's why you

1126
01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:19.239
have the chickens. That's why you
have the egg. That's right. We

1127
01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:25.359
got lots of vegetables growing, a
whole lot of vegetables growing, and apple

1128
01:44:25.359 --> 01:44:30.439
tree, peartree, and I'm very
thankful, and I don't I try not

1129
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:32.600
to take it for granted. It's
a lot of hard work. There's a

1130
01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:36.560
lot of tough days. We lost
some meat chickens last week to a predator.

1131
01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:43.199
But you can't quit. You just
gotta realize that. And that's life.

1132
01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:45.319
And if things get worse, the
predators are also going to come from

1133
01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:49.279
uh like actual people. If the
food chain, you know, if things

1134
01:44:49.319 --> 01:44:54.880
go south and the food supply chain
breaks, they're they're going to come and

1135
01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:59.399
listen. If people ask, I
will help anybody. But if anybody comes

1136
01:44:59.439 --> 01:45:02.399
trying to se deal, then that's
a whole different equation. And that's what

1137
01:45:02.479 --> 01:45:06.399
I was going to ask you about. If people would actually come to you

1138
01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:11.760
forcefully to take what you have,
what would you do as a Christian person?

1139
01:45:12.560 --> 01:45:15.159
I mean forcefully if they threaten my
family, I think I would do

1140
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:17.920
what anybody but does. But I
as a christ I mean I am preparing

1141
01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:21.880
to the fact where I assume that
many family and friends aren't preparing, and

1142
01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:26.159
that I realized that I'm probably going
to have to take care of other people

1143
01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:29.840
outside of myself, including neighbors,
et cetera, because that's what you do

1144
01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:34.000
as a Christian, you help others. And I want to make sure regard

1145
01:45:34.119 --> 01:45:41.840
the first Commandment saying do not murder. Well, that's you know, if

1146
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:45.199
my family's well being comes into question
and I said it specifically, do not

1147
01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:50.399
murder, right yep, yep.
But that's that that's going to be a

1148
01:45:50.439 --> 01:45:55.640
tough bridge to cross when when people's
families are threatened, if things go really

1149
01:45:55.680 --> 01:46:00.840
sideways, right yep. And yeah, I think of all the people that

1150
01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:06.159
came from there. They have their
beliefs. They believe that you cannot kill.

1151
01:46:08.199 --> 01:46:11.319
But that's not what it's talking about. It's talking about do not murder.

1152
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:17.720
That's premeditated, that's right out of
anger rage. That's defending yourself.

1153
01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:24.039
Yeah, in your opinion, as
an American citizen, as a person that

1154
01:46:24.079 --> 01:46:29.600
believes in God, how would you
deal with that? I would I would

1155
01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:33.159
just say I will do whatever it
takes to defend my family. Send it

1156
01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:39.039
yea. And that would be miserable. That would be horrible. I don't

1157
01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:41.880
like to think about it, and
I pray and hope that it doesn't get

1158
01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:45.479
to that. But what people don't
realize is we that the supply chain we

1159
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:50.840
use as American today is basically back
in the day, every grocery store had

1160
01:46:50.920 --> 01:46:57.720
warehouses and they would have stocks forever. But it was costing these stores so

1161
01:46:57.800 --> 01:47:02.439
much money to keep stocks. So
now the jistic system changed once technology became

1162
01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:09.039
smarter and they started doing virtual inventories. Now we use something called just in

1163
01:47:09.119 --> 01:47:15.319
time logistics. So instead of having
these huge stocks, the food is being

1164
01:47:15.359 --> 01:47:19.479
replaced basically as it's coming off the
shelf. What that means is while it

1165
01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:25.159
is more cost effective if there is
a break and supply chain. You see

1166
01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:30.159
what happened during COVID. But if
if an all out war happens, I

1167
01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:32.039
mean, you ask the people.
My grandmother will tell you during World War

1168
01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:36.359
Two that the grocery stores didn't have
all the stuff that they used. Started

1169
01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:41.359
during World War two, we had
victory gardens. Hello, yeah, yeah,

1170
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:46.600
they had to send the food to
the troops. Yeah, exactly Why

1171
01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:50.720
am I telling this? I was
not even alive during World War Two?

1172
01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:57.000
What happened? Why do not Why
do not more people understand this fact?

1173
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:08.319
Yeah, it's a million dollar question, and it's something that we all.

1174
01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:14.800
You know, people have to walk
that fine line between being prepared and still

1175
01:48:14.920 --> 01:48:18.520
enjoying and living your life. Right, you don't want to live twenty four

1176
01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.640
hours a day gloom and doom.
That's not good mental your mental health.

1177
01:48:23.039 --> 01:48:25.560
You still got to live your life. But at the same time, you

1178
01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:30.720
know, be prepared and that's spiritually
and physically and you know with food and

1179
01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:38.279
chickens and everything else like that too. I agree. I think more people

1180
01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:45.479
should actually look into sustaining themselves,
making sure that they have provisions for them

1181
01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:53.359
and their family because I know,
for a fact that people in the Soviet

1182
01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:58.720
when in nineteen thirties there was a
whole dumb water, they actually had double

1183
01:48:58.800 --> 01:49:02.880
walls to where they put grain into
the double walls, and that's how they

1184
01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:12.199
sustain themselves. So you know what, learned from history. Learn from history

1185
01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:15.640
else you're do to repeat it exactly. Yeah, and that's, by the

1186
01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:19.119
way, that's something that we've recently
just got into. We we invested in

1187
01:49:19.159 --> 01:49:25.239
a grain mill and we've been ordering
a whole bunch of wheat and all the

1188
01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:29.399
other things. So we ground our
own flour. Now, yeah, nice,

1189
01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:36.560
Yeah, Well, it's better than
the alternative not having anything exactly.

1190
01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:41.239
Exactly. Well, brother, it's
been an amazing We're almost at the two

1191
01:49:41.279 --> 01:49:45.680
hour mark. Now. I do
want to give you the last minute or

1192
01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:48.439
two to just kind of give your
message to the folks and we'll wrap it

1193
01:49:48.520 --> 01:49:56.159
up. Here's the thing, I
have no message. My only concern is

1194
01:49:56.319 --> 01:50:01.720
with the people of America. Would
I have grown to love? I came

1195
01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:08.239
here with nothing. I built myself
up by whatever I could, and the

1196
01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:15.239
American dream still exists. But you
have to actually put yourself into it to

1197
01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:23.840
get something out of it. That's
all, well said God. Bless you,

1198
01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:27.439
and thank you for taking the time
to first to reach out and then

1199
01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:30.680
to come and spend a couple hours
on this Sunday evening and share your message

1200
01:50:31.319 --> 01:50:34.800
with everyone, not just here in
the United States, but obviously we have

1201
01:50:34.840 --> 01:50:40.560
a listenership around the world, and
you know, I think our situation here

1202
01:50:40.600 --> 01:50:44.239
certainly resonates with the people in Europe
and other parts of the world. So

1203
01:50:44.479 --> 01:50:46.439
you know, we're certainly not the
only ones going through this. The event

1204
01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:51.399
we're going through now is a global
event. Again, this is good versus

1205
01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:57.600
evil, and you know you can't
really run from it. It's not a

1206
01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:03.079
person versus a person. It's a
person first, the demonic versus the spiritual

1207
01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:09.159
realm. Yeah, and uh that's
why you know we decided to dig in.

1208
01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:12.000
We could run right, try to
pack up and move away from the

1209
01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:15.159
evil, but this is just this
is something you can't get away from and

1210
01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:19.760
it's best that you you just put
your foot down and otherwise you know it's

1211
01:51:19.800 --> 01:51:23.880
going to continue to fester. So
again, I appreciate your time, Surge,

1212
01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:27.479
Thank you so much for joining us
tonight. Thank you for having me

1213
01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:29.600
on. I appreciate it, yeah, for sure, and thank you to

1214
01:51:29.640 --> 01:51:32.760
all our listeners for continuing to support
the podcast, and again, if you'd

1215
01:51:32.760 --> 01:51:35.720
like to join us, like Surge
did tonight, send us an email to

1216
01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:40.000
the Factunner atmail dot com, or
you can go to the website The Factunner

1217
01:51:40.039 --> 01:51:44.439
dot com and you can leave us
a voicemail and I check them out often

1218
01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:47.119
and we'd love to hear from you. For Serge, I'm George. God

1219
01:51:47.119 --> 01:51:49.840
bless everyone. Have a great rest
of your week and until next time,

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