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Hey guys, Welcome and welcome back
to the podcast where your friends Maddie and

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Lauren and we aren't back for another
episode. You guys love or seem to

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love relationship related episodes, so we're
super excited to be back with another one.

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Not that either of us have that
much relationship expertise or experience, I

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guess, but we're here to share
our thoughts on some relationship related rules.

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I'm very curious to hear what you
have to say about this, Lauren,

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Yeah, I saw this on TikTok
a little while ago. There was a

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sound going around that couples would react
to and they would say whether they thought

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the behaviors listed we're cheating or not
cheating, So that's kind of what inspired

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this episode. We also saw someone
else do something similar, But yeah,

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I feel like everyone has such a
different take on these rules. I think

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some of them makes sense and some
of them are really dumb. So I'm

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excited to hear your thoughts too.
Maddie. I'm very excited because also I

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think that this changes a lot as
you get older, Like what I would

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have thought was I don't know,
Actually, I don't know if it gets

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more serious or less serious, like
when I was younger, I would care

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about more or less. Actually,
I don't know what a great question.

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I guess we'll see, like what
our different perspectives are. Yeah, well,

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before we dive into that, should
we do a little life update?

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Yeah? Well I did record a
life update. What day was that either

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Tuesday or Wednesday when I record the
podcast? So why don't you take it

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away? Because my life not very
exciting? Honestly, my life hasn't been

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too exciting either, just because I've
been so busy with school. I had

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my last week of classes this week, and I have exams starting next week,

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so I'll actually be finished school by
December ninth, I think, yeah,

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a week from today, and then
I went to school for like a

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month. We have a really long
Christmas break, so I'm looking forward to

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that. But yeah, it's been
very, very busy lately. I feel

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like I have been like Mia on
social media, and that is because I

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genuinely just haven't been on my phone. I had like a big test or

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project every day this week, so
I have just been grinding. But yeah,

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not too much to update you guys
on Have I mentioned that I moved

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into my new apartment on the podcast
yet, yeah, you did describe it

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as a dungeon, or maybe that
was actually on the episode that got deleted.

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But in my episode that I re
recorded, I explained why getting a

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good alarm clock was good for your
room. I think I'm pretty sure I

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explained that. I said this would
be a great gift for Lauren because she

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has no light. And yeah,
it was like a fake centerized basically,

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so I'm pretty sure I said that. But yeah, I explain how you're

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a part minskying. Okay, I
think it's like our second or third week

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here, and it's been great so
far, with the exception of a few

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little things. Since it's a new
building, they're just I don't know,

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they were kind of rushed finishing it. So when we moved in, there

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was some stuff that was wrong,
like when my roommate's doors doesn't close because

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they put it on wrong, Like
the hinges are in the wrong spot,

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so just things like that. We
had one of our screens window screens fall

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off our floor, so like it
fell down many many floors and it hit

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a car outside of our apartment,
so that wasn't great. Oh my god.

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We didn't have warm water for a
while. That. Wow, you

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don't realize how important it is until
it's gone. The water is really cold

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naturally, so we had that happening
for a few days. But yeah,

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I don't know. I feel like
we've kind of sorted out all of the

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new building kinks by now, and
it's been pretty good. I'm happy to

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finally be settled in one place,
and I'm starting to think about how I'm

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to decorate my room. So if
anyone has any suggestions, please let me

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know. I'm looking to put some
Decora something on my wall. Yeah,

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so like, what's your aesthetic?
Hmm? Okay, Well have you ever

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seen maybe on Pinterest the like girl
bedrooms where that's like the best way I

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can describe it. I want you
to walk into my room and be like,

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this is a teenage girl bedroom where
you have like all you all the

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things that you like on the wall
by your bed, like maybe posters for

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artists that you like, and then
little momentoes and stuff. That's what I

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would like to do with my room. I think it may be like some

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fun mirrors and art. I was
thinking I might go to Goodwill and see

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if I can find any cool,
maybe like older pieces and put them up

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on my walls. Nice. You
could also check Etsy or like a thrift

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store, like a flea market or
something. I think they would have what

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you're looking for. But that sounds
really great. I don't really know what

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you mean by girl bedroom, but
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Yeah, y'all just have to wait
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saying I'm going to decorate and then
not actually doing it. So hopefully I

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can decorate this place before I move
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are you returning there next semester?
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current roommates next year, just because
a lot of them are in sororities or

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they're rushing and they have to live
in their sorority houses next year. Oh

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wow, but I might be in
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Okay, so at least you could
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space hopefully bigger actually, but it's
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house or like a different, completely
different lay out. Yeah, yep,

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we'll have to wait and see.
Also, when I was talking about like

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having posters up for artists who like, it reminded me that Spotify Wrapped and

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Apple Music Replay came out this week. And I know that you're not a

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big music listener, but did you
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I don't use Spotify, so that's
not very exciting. And then Apple

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Music does something, but I just
didn't click it. Do you want to

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click it and look at who your
top artists are? Sure? But I

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don't really listen to much music,
so yeah, let me just how do

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I do that again? Just go
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listen now and the bottom left and
then it should be there. Well you

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do that, I'll share mine,
Okay? Oh go ahead? Do you

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have any idea what kind of music
I listened to? Like? Would you

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know who would be any of my
top artists? Probably like Phoebe Bridgers She's

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number two, Lana del I was
number one, then Phoebe, then Daniel

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Caesar. I must have had a
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I feel like I don't listen to
him much anymore. But Spotify Rapped and

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Apple Music Replay always reminded me of
the phases that I went through. Maya

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Hawk is my fourth most listened to
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First, maybe don't quote me on
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big Maya Hawk phase in like March, and I listened to her music all

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the time, and she somehow made
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Boy Genius is number five, which
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And then my top songs this year
were Funeral by Phoebe Bridgers, Motion

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Sickness by Phoebe Bridgers, Chamber of
Reflection by Mac DeMarco, Sweet Tooths by

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Maya Hawk, and Cool About It
by Boy Genius. What is your for

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your top song? How many times
have you played it? Okay, it

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says sixty one, but I feel
like it's gotta be more. That's only

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yeah, like five times a month. How many minutes did you listen to

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your top artists for I'm just trying
to gauge if I listen to music like

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Way Less than You my top artist
I listened to for one, nine hundred

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and sixty four minutes. Okay,
I listened to a lot of music apparently,

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Okay, Okay, so yours my
This is embarrassing, to be honest,

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this is like you literally don't know
anything about music. Number one Morgan

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Wallen November two, Taylor Swift bro
I don't even like Taylor Swift number so

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much music. Yeah, that's true, that's true. And I also went

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to the concerts. I was like, I got into it a little bit

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after that. Number three Drake Bro
Okay, so embarrassed. I guess,

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like the biggest people every John Roth. Number four is Zach Bryan, Okay,

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Number five Sizza. I'm just gonna
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bad. Tyler Childers, Okay,
he's fine. Justin Bieber, Oh god,

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twenty one Savage literally Olivia Rodrigo by
twenty one Savage, Olivia Rodrigo and

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role Model, Like, none of
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generic, rapped or whatever replay I've
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Okay, then what were your top
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Night by Morgan Wollen, ninety eight
Braves by Morgan Wallen, Midnight Love by

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Girl in Red Kill Bill by Sizza, That Feels That feels weird for you.

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John sent it to me and said
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He's like, some shorty said this
song to me, and then I

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listened to it and like put on
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to it a bunch of times.
That's so funny. And then kill Bill

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by Sizza Feathered Indians by Teyler Childers
lovely. So yeah, I'm not super

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proud of that. It's not giving
like that I have any taste at all.

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But you know what, I'm speaking
my truth. You know what,

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as you should, as I should
exactly. Anyway, any more updates to

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share because I really have nothing to
say other than yep, nothing really,

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just have been working NonStop and have
still so much to do. Oh.

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Actually, my friend is coming tomorrow, Abby, friend of the podcast has

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been on many times. She lives
in actually lives in Milwaukee, right,

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so I'm quite excited to see her. I'm picking her up from the Burbank

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Airport tomorrow and we're gonna spend a
few days together because she was in Las

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Vegas for a couple of days visiting
a friend and now, you know,

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just a quick trip over. So
I said, you have to come.

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I'm going to pick you up from
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fun things, some lunches, you
know, the basic stuff. Very fun.

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I don't know if we mentioned this, or if you mentioned this last

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week, but when we were talking
about our Christmas plans, as of last

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week, we were supposed to be
here for all of Christmas. But as

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of today, I think we're both
going to be going back to Toronto for

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like a week or two at the
beginning of December. So that should be

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fun. So the problem is,
I have a lot of work to do,

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so I'm just trying to decide if
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I know that the work is not
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needs to be done will not get
done, and then my December sales will

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be down to drain. Does that
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Well, we're doing a sale.
I think I mentioned it on the

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podcast. I haven't announced it yet, but we're doing up to fifty percent

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off. So when you're running that
sort of sale, there's so much content

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that has to support it, and
in order to do that, I need

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to have all of my stuff and
also like access to models and like the

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ability to shoot content quickly. So
I don't really have enough time to do

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it beforehand because I would be leaving
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Oh my god, I didn't realize
it's already December. I was like,

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yeah, it's December, second of
December. Yeah, it's like next

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would be next weekend. So this
is the problem that I'm trying to balance,

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you know, being a teenage girl
with being a business owner. Being

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a teenage girl, yep, just
doing what I want to do with being

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a business own twenty seven year old
teenage girl. Yeah, that's a struggle.

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M hm. So that's my life
story. Anyway, let's get into

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the episode because we've been rambling.
We're gonna talk about relationship rules, and

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like Lauren said, sure our feedback
on them. Lauren has come up with

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these rules. To be honest,
some of them are crazy to me already.

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So really I don't really know.
Oh what should be fun? How

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this is possible that this is a
rule. Okay, I know what you're

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talking about. Okay, can you
go first? Wait, let's start with

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one of the most basic, posting
your significant other on social media. How

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do you feel about that? I
personally don't care at all, Like if

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someone doesn't post me, if I
didn't think that they were being shady about

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it, if they just like,
don't care about social media, like I

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wouldn't care if someone posted me or
not. Yeah, what do you think

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if they like post I don't know, a few times a month, they're

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active on Instagram, they're posting photo
dumps, and you're just not in any

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of it. How would that make
you feel? If I had a reason

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to feel as if they were shady
in any other way, then I would

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feel unhappy about it. But if
they were, you know, not I

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didn't feel like I was being hidden, then I probably wouldn't care that much,

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Like it's just not that important to
me. But then again, like

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being hidden is not a good feeling. So if the intention behind it is

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that they're trying to hide you,
then yeah, obviously i'd have a problem

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with it. But in theory or
sorry, Like in general, I guess

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I don't care about Instagram, like
I don't care if someone posts me.

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Yeah, I actually agree with that
assessment. I feel like people are too

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quick to be like, oh,
if he doesn't post you, he is

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hiding you form like he doesn't want
people to know he's in a relationship.

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Whatever. I don't think that's necessarily
true. Some people just aren't active or

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also, like I don't know I
feel like there's a way to post your

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significant other on social media without it
being like kind of gross. And you

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know, some people might just rather
not post about their relationship, so I,

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yeah, for sure entitled to keep
some things private. How do you

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feel about soft versus hard launches?
That's a big time. I don't care.

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I literally don't care at all,
Like whatever, both of them are

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the same to me. Hmm,
interesting, Yeah, makes no difference to

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me. I mean, I'm not
really someone who's in your face poster,

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so I probably would do more soft. Like I wouldn't announce that I was

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in a relationship. I would just
post what I want to post. Surprise,

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I have a boyfriend. Yeah,
like nobody actually cares. Yeah,

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well, I think a soft lunch
could be fun. I would like to

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get into a relationship just so I
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would be fun. That would be
fun. You could get really creative with

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the announcement, the soft announcement.
Yeah, I like that. Okay,

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the next one. I'm really just
confused about how this is a thing at

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all. Lauren has written having your
significant other in your profile picture? Why,

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okay? This was this not like
a thing? When you were younger.

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Maybe social media wasn't around in the
same way it isn't, but like

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it was not a thing that I
can remember. It was definitely a thing

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when I was in high school that
people would put a picture of them and

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their significant other as a profile picture. And I think that the intention is,

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like, even if you're private and
no one can see your photos,

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they look at that and they know
that you're in a relationship. And it's

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honestly kind of helpful because my friends
will have like class crushes here and we'll

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find their instagrams and then we'll look
and if there's a girl in their profile

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picture, where like, oh,
he's in a relationship. M I mean

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it, it makes sense. I
just like wouldn't think of that, and

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I wouldn't expect my boyfriend to have
me in their profile picture, So I

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would say that rule does not apply. I don't think it should be a

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rule, but I just think it's
kind of funny and a little bit clever.

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Yeah, it's probably was efficient.
It's definitely efficient. Gets messed.

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Okay, I want to say one, Okay, okay, what do you

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how do you feel about this kind
of aligns with your next one, which

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is going through their phone. But
what about like dming girls like talking to

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girls like this? Is this kind
of is what they were talking about in

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that TikTok trend where it was like, is your boyfriend talking to other girls

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on Instagram cheating? I think it
depends what the conversations are about. Like

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that alone, I don't think that
constitutes cheating. If they're friends and they're

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just like he's responding to their stories
and stuff in a friendly way, I

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don't think that's cheating. If he's
like actively sliding into girls dms, Like,

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Hey, I think that's weird behavior. Do you think it's cheating?

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I think that you would have to
have a conversation about that well for sure,

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But do you think that that is
break up worthy? Like, if

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you're in a relationship, it is
a rule that you should not slide into

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someone's DMS obviously, and then if
you do, the relationship's over. Hmm.

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I just like hope that I'm never
in a relationship where the other person

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is dumb enough to think that's okay, you know what I mean? Like

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you actively be flirting with other girls, That feels like common sense to me.

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Would I break up with someone over
it? Probably not. But if

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I talked to them and I was
like, this makes me uncomfortable and they

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kept doing it, then yeaheah,
it'd be over. I agree. I

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think that's something that's like anything that's
not that bad. I would say,

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like, if I ever see this
again, like you know how I feel

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about this. You should have known
the whole time, but now you really

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know. And if I ever see
one thing that is similar to this,

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this is over. And I've given
you that like time to change. But

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yeah, I don't know. I
think it's obviously depends what the messages are.

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How do you feel about going through
their phone? I would never do

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that. I I would never do
that, Like I don't need to know

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what your password is, I don't
know who you're texting. Like, I

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think that if I can't trust the
person i'm dating to not like do things

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that I wouldn't want them to do, then I shouldn't be in a relationship

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with them. You know. Yeah, I just can't care at I can't

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care about that. I got too
much else going on. One hundred percent.

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I totally agree. Yeah, I
think it's it's tricky. Actually,

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someone yesterday was like, oh yeah, these two people broke up and I

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was like, oh, why and
my friend was like, oh, because

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he found her looking through his phone. And I was like, wow,

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I would definitely never do that.
Sometimes you're just curious. But okay,

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here's the here's the argument. In
the other way, it's like, if

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you have nothing to hide, why
do you care if I go through your

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phone? Well, and the argument
against that would be like, why don't

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you trust me enough to trust that
I wouldn't be doing anything shady. What

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if you went through their phone and
then you found what you were looking for?

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What do you mean I'd break up
with them? Okay, fair enough,

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Okay, next up? Wait,
wait, wait, wait. I

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feel like people would be like,
I can't bring this up because I'm not

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supposed to know. But to me, that wouldn't be a problem. I

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would be willing to die on that
hill if it was bad enough. One

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hundred percent. You have to decide
if what you found is bad enough to

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bring up, because you have to
admit that you looked on their phone,

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right, But you can always just
twist it a little bit and make it

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sound like you had a reason to
do it or whatever, and then it's

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fine. You could just say rumor
has it you texted this girl at this

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time saying this I heard. Now, do you mind if I just look

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at your conversation just so you can
prove me wrong, just to you know,

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make sure there's no substance to that. Yeah, right, Okay,

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Wait, before we go to the
next one, I want to revisit the

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social media topic and say, how
do you feel about like a guy that

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you're dating following other girls like Instagram
models and stuff, girls that he's following

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because he's attracted to them. You
know, it's hard for me to say

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this in general without obviously referring to
my own relationship. So let me just

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say I never cared about anyone following
any girls. But I think that it's

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different when you live in LA and
these are people that you know, if

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that makes sense. Like in Toronto, I was like, if you want

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to follow some with three million followers, who's never going to follow you back

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or answer your DM? Not that
they should they would DM them, but

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like, let's say hypothetically, then
go ahead. But if a guy I

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was dating here was following a lot
of models, first of all, they

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probably people that I met, because
that's who you that's who we run into

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like that's it depends who it is, obviously, but if they're like social

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media influencers, yeah, I would
have a problem with that. It's embarrassing

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for me because these are girls that
I run into, right and they know

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that he's dating you. Yeah,
for sure, Yeah I would say no.

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But that's an LA specific thing.
I wouldn't care as much or probably

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at all if we were living somewhere
else. I don't think I would ever

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bring it up, Like I would
never be like you need to unfollow these

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girls. But I I think it's
a little bit weird. Like if you

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were scrolling through Instagram with him and
there's like a bunch of bikini pictures on

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his following page, it's like,
hmm, that's just kind of strange.

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How do you feel about guys liking
other girl's photos? See, I can't

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care, Like I me neither.
Yeah, I just don't think it has

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any meaning. Like I see guys
on their phones and they don't look like

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they're like this sweep swep, swep, scroll swells girl tap tap tap,

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Like I don't think they're like,
oh my god, this is an amazing

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photo. Like girls analyzed photos way
more than guys do mm hmm, I

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believe that. I also just like
I feel like the like doesn't really mean

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anything. I know that girls feel
weird about this because again, it's like

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the girl whose photo you're liking probably
knows that you're in a relationship, and

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so it's a bad look for the
girlfriend. But I don't know. It's

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like if he's following that person and
he's going to see their pictures either way,

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I don't think it really makes a
difference whether or not he likes them.

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I agree, I have an issue
with going back in liking photos,

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Like, if you're liking old photos, that's weird, that's wird. I

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exactly. Anything that's like initiating contact
to me is weird, Like why are

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you trying to get this person's attention? Right? Yeah, for sure,

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that's strange. Okay, next one, sharing your location. I don't have

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a problem with it because I don't
lie about where I'm going. Yeah.

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I feel like this is like every
parent child argument as well. It's like

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the parents are like, if you
aren't lying about where you're going, then

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why do you care if I have
your location? And then the kids like,

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I just want privacy and I don't
really care about privacy because I,

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like I said, I feel like
I can do what I want and I

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don't pretend that I'm going somewhere when
i'm not, or like if I say

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i'm home, i'm home. I'm
not gonna lie about it. So if

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someone wants my location, they can
have it. Yeah, I would say

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the same, And I think it's
a little bit even worse to say that

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you won't share your really your location
with someone that you're dating because you know

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that it's almost definitely because they're doing
shady stuff. Like when it's a parent

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child relationship, it's like, Okay, maybe they're staying out later than they're

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supposed to, or they're not going
to the friend's house that they said they

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were going to. But when you're
in a relationship, it's like, oh

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so you're at like you're at a
girl's house, or you're like like there's

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there's always something weird there. That's
how I feel even about phone password.

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I'm like, it's the same sort
of thing. The argument against it is

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that you deserve privacy, and the
argument for it is like, if you're

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not hiding anything, why do you
care ify Like, look at who you're

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texting or know your phone password or
know where you are, Like you should

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be comfortable enough to share those things. But I get the privacy boundary thing

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as well. I think it really
just depends on the relationship, like if

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trust has been broken at all,
or like if you have a reason to

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worry, then I think that those
things can help you feel more comfortable.

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Yeah, I agree. When it
comes to the phone password, I feel

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like if they're if they like won't
tell you what it is, that's kind

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of weird. Like I if it
came up, I would want them to

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tell me what their phone password was. If I was like, oh,

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let me change the song or something
and they were like, I'll do it

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to me, I'll do it like
that. Yeah, feels like great flagged.

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But that being said, I wouldn't
go through their phone even if I

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had their password, Like I just
I feel like that is a way that

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you could respect their privacy while still
knowing their phone password. Yeah, I

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agree one hundred percent. Yeah,
I don't care about sharing location. I

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it would make me feel more comfortable
if I had someone's location probably, But

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like I said, if I've never
been worried about a person, then I

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probably wouldn't. I would ask for
it. Yeah, okay, next one,

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this is a big one. I'm
interested to hear your thoughts. How

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do you feel about them hanging out
with other girls alone? Ooh, that's

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tricky, I think Okay. I
think it's very dependent on the girl.

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I think it's dependent on what your
relationship is with the girl, if they

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are respectful of you and your relationship
with your significant other, and yeah,

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I think that's mostly it. Like
and also like the history between them and

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how long they've been friends. Like
if someone has a high school friend or

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a university friend that they've been friends
with for a long time and there's never

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been any weirdness between them and they're
honestly just friends, then I wouldn't mind

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if they were. Like, I
think it also has to be in a

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public place, Like you don't need
to go to someone's house without me.

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But I think that if you want
to get lunch or coffee or dinner or

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whatever, I don't care about that, as long as the girl has made

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it very clear what her intentions are
too. M hm. Yeah, I

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agree, because I think about this
in terms of like guy friends that I

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have that I would hang out with
and like, there are no romantic feelings

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there, and I can't imagine if
someone else was like, oh no,

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you can't hang out with them,
like that would be weird because obviously nothing

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would ever happen there. But yeah, people are definitely very like this is

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a tricky one for people, I
think, But yeah, no, you

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make a good point. I think
it really is dependent on the relationship between

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them, and I don't know.
I feel like if it's an ex or

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like someone that they were ever entangled
with interested in, yeah, then that's

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probably not cool. But I think
otherwise it's fine. Yeah, I agree.

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The thing with guys is I had
this conversation with my boyfriend. I

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was like, there's guys friends that
I have that I have zero interest in,

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like zero percent interest, never thought
in my head. And he said,

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oh, well, most guys have
thought about their friends in a way

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that's not just a friend. I'm
like, that's heard this, Yeah,

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I've heard this, But girls are
not like that. Like, if I

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have a guy friend who I am
honestly have no feelings toward, that's never

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going to change, like you're in
the friend box. But I think for

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guys, it's a lot more of
a slippery slope. Oh god, yeah,

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yeah. I feel like sometimes guys
are just like waiting for the girl

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to show interest and then that could
change the relationship between them. Yeah.

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I mean, if you're in a
relationship, if your boyfriend is dating you,

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you should never have to worry about
that. But I don't know,

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it's it is complicated, Like this
is something that I don't exactly know where

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I stand. But I think we
both agree that if it's like a person

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that you have no concern about,
then it's fine. M hmm. I

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also think that sometimes guys are just
a little bit oblivious to what another girl's

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intentions are. It's like, you
might think she just wants to be your

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friend, But if I am looking
at the situation, I'm like, oh,

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she doesn't just want to be your
friend, then maybe you got to

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take my word for it. It's
hard because I never want to overreact about

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things. Like my worst fear is
overreacting. I don't know what that's called,

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but that's definitely a phobia, like
overreacting about a problem that's not actually

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a problem. So I would be
so hesitant to be like, I think

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there's something going on here. I
would probably never say that. No,

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I know, I know, but
yeah, I think it's it is definitely

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something that you'd have to bring up. M okay last, but not LEAs

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Leuren. The fact that this is
even on here is crazy. She has

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has dating apps, like has cheating
apps, but doesn't swipe on them cheating.

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I just think that you should delete
them. When I got into a

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relationship, I deleted whatever dating apps
I had. Yeah, you it should

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be obvious. Yeah, if you
are dating me exactly, if you are

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pursuing another person or initiating contact or
swiping on an app like come on,

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that is cheating. Mm hmm,
yeah, I agree. Well, I

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think we're actually pretty aligned, more
aligned than I thought. The only things

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that were different about or like the
social media related things, I guess.

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But well, we do come from
the same parents. It kind of makes

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sense that we have the same views
on what's okay what's not okay in a

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relationship. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I don't care about

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a lot of things in relationships,
like usually I think there are bigger,

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bigger issues and more important things to
focus on in life. But I don't

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know, I think it's just good
to be in a relationship with someone who

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is similar to you, or if
they don't feel the same way about some

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of these rules, they're respectful of
what your stance on them is. For

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sure. I think finding someone who
has similar values is the easiest, definitely.

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And also if you are in a
relationship where you can really trust somebody,

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then you don't have to worry about
stuff, like you can let a

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lot of things go because you are
confident that the other person is not going

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to do anything to risk your relationship. Like they can have female friends,

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they can follow girls on Instagram,
like all of that. That just depends

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on your confidence and trust in the
person. So very relationship specific, but

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yeah, I think we're pretty much
aligned. That was a fun episode.

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Hope you guys enjoyed this one.
We'll be back next week with maybe something

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more Christmas related or I don't know
what we've been talking about, but we

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will be chatting with you guys next
Friday. Thank you guys so much for

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listening. We will talk to you
soon. Bye. Well well well