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Well whiskey coming thing, pay oh
don't you? From Powerline blog dot com

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and produced by Ricochet dot Com.
This is the three Whiskey Happy Hour with

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your bartenders Steve Hayward, John You, and power Lines International Woman of Mystery

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Lucretia. Thank you gotta giving let
that whiskey clone when you're feeling low down

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and load. Welcome everyone to the
three Whiskey Happy Hour. This is your

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host, Lucretia, the International Woman
of Mystery, happy to welcome my co

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host John You and Steve Hayward.
How are you, gentlemen. I'm good,

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guys. I'm trying to show John
how you have this energetic opening to

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three Whiskey Happy Hour because John always
starts off like he's bored to be there.

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You know, have you noticed that? You know that's funny. I

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know, because somebody does other people's
podcasts. He comes in like Gangbusters.

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You know it's that's because that's because
of the other podcasts. I'm not afraid

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of the hosts. Yes, by
the way, I should tell you I

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was just on this National Review speaking
trip in Orange County and Silicon Valley and

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it was mobbed by Lucretia admirers.
Or many people. I would say at

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least five people came up to me
and asked me for her secret identity?

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Did you give it away? You
know who? Of course not. I

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was like, you're what you're reading
National Review and you're too stupid to figure

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it out yourself. Well, one
could argue that those two actually go together,

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but I won't. You just set
me up for it. How could

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I not? I know he walked
into that one. Well, so,

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so John has a very important squash
game, probably with members of the Supreme

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Court and the Ukrainian military. I'm
guessing somebody you beat me to it.

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I was gonna say, with the
members of the American military industrial complex.

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I actually had to find we're looking
at new countries to invade to make money.

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I had dinner the other night with
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the Mexican Army. Was it interesting? Aha, Well, we should be

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careful how much I talk about it. But it was a genuinely nice man.

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Turns out I didn't know this.
I said, your propaganda machine is

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not very good, because what we
hear about you is just you know,

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all of your corruption, et cetera, et cetera at the cartels. But

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it turns out that they do a
lot of things like the National Guard does

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in the United States. They go
to horrible emergencies, hurricanes, that sort

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of thing all over the world.
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Army has no natural enemies and so
they don't really have to plan for fighting

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wars. But b do you want
your generals to actually be nice people?

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Like? Do you think that after
people met George Patten, they're like,

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he was such a nice Well,
you want generals to be mean bullet chomping

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jerks. He so, so,
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had to be that way with everybody, but he was nice with me.

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But there was also a translator,
so maybe the translator was making him sound

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nicer than he was. That's always
a fun project conversation. But the translators,

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doing their job, they censored half
the things Lucretia said, so they

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never made it into Spanish. Maybe. Actually, my Spanish isn't terrible,

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so I could I could tell a
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he talked very fast, and then
I could tell what the translators, if

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they were accurate. It's I'm just
not good enough to formulate it. Myself.

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Anyway, we have a lot to
cover today because it's been a crazy

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week. I am going to call
this episode Steve will put it in the

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as the title of the episode,
the old Nixon adage, never murder a

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man committing suicide. And is that
from Nixon himself? Yeah, that's what

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Nixon said, And I don't remember
the context. Steve probably does, well,

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I don't know. Well, I
think it might have been well,

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I think there earlier versions of that
from like Napoleon, But in Nixon's case,

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I think when he might have said
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stayed up and watching the Democratic National
Convention in nineteen seventy two when George McGovern,

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because of the disruptions of the student
left, which right remained subject today

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right at that convention, did not
give his acceptance speech until three in the

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morning, and Nixon wrote his diary
it was like some college skit that got

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out of control. But he realized
the Democratic Party was melting down in front

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of him and that this was going
to be an easy reelection. So you're

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going to hate this though, because
when I ask, you know, the

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all powerful Wikipedia, they actually attribute
the quote to Woodrow Wilson. Oh No,

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well, they don't mention Nixon saying
this even a blind squirrel. John,

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That's okay. But at the same
time, what we now know about

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Wikipedia when that twit from NPR was
in charge of it, that everything she

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did was censored, everything Wikipedia produced
was censored. So I'm not sure I

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trusted anyway. I actually will fail
students if they use Wikipedia, I warn

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them, But I will fail them
if they try to use Wikipedia on a

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as a source on a paper.
But anyway, that's a different story before

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we get to committing never murder a
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ask John, if you had any
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Yes, Well, so first I
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mine. I think she's one of
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Trump White House and the Trump White
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not somewhat improved. So she testified
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she's gorgeous, by the way.
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not. I think I'd be committing
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I commented on her appearance speech that
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are, so so she it was
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all, this is the prosecution's witnesses
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the best people for the government for
Alvin Bragg, which is turning out to

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be such a disaster for them.
She was under subpoena. She didn't want

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to show up. Yeah, she
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have to. And this is not
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yet. This is just the prosecutions
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which was it really undermines the prosecution's
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breaking about President Trump potentially possibly having
affairs with the Stormy Daniels and then Harry

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McDougal I think is the name of
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to try to make sure that his
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so he said, she said,
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be delivered to the residence of Trump
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this important, And the reason it's
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mean if and in fact, it
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anything having to do with a campaign, because the DA has built his whole

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case, which I think is unconstitutional
anyway. But he's built this whole case

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that what Trump did was violate the
federal election laws by giving himself an illegal

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campaign contribution when he allegedly paid off
these women. Now it's unconstitutional, I

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think, because I don't Alvin Bragg's
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federal campaigns. It's not his job
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His only job is to enforce New
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which he says he's doing because of
the business practice, the fraudulent business

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entries. But again, who does
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And also the time to bring those
cases past long ago, So he has

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to plug it into something bigger and
more important, a felony, and so

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he's trying to plug it into the
campaign finance laws. But this is the

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interesting thing. I don't see how
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did, because if he had tried
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funds, that would be a violation. The Justice Department essentially prosecuted John Edwards

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for doing exactly that, and I'd
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hung jury, he got a hung
jury, but he's got he got lucky,

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and the Justice Department decided not to
prosecute him, And then right he's

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being Trump's being prosecuted for doing what
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to book it as a campaign contribution, but to pull it out of your

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own accounts, your own money.
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even though the prosecution was trying to
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actually undermines Yet again, it's the
legal theory of the case. Steve

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your muted. Yeah, I was
coughing because I'm still rich. Lowry had

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a great column about this a few
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think of this. And essentially the
argument, boy, is down to what

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kind of case could Alvin Bragg have
bought if he had or if anybody had

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investigated the bimbo eruption squad that was
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How many people did they pay off? How many witnesses did they intimidate?

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Right? I mean, I mean
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I think that once we decided in
the nineteen nineties that well some I mean,

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never mind whether the story of Stormy
Daniels was true or not. The

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point is is the nineteen nineties,
the nation made a decision we don't actually

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care about this. Remember Joe Klein's
cover story Time magazine, A character doesn't

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matter, We only want results in
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to the pre Clinton standard. Apparently
the applies only to Trump. But isn't

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there also a question John that these
entries in the ledgers that were made were

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made in twenty seventeen, which means
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on the twenty sixteen election. I
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the more you realize this is just
the worst kind of law fair with

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no backing, and the only thing
that allows it to move forward is the

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fact that they've got a corrupt judge
and a jury made up of a bunch

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of leftist idiots. I mean,
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I mean, I have the same
worries that you do. I don't

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think the judge is corrupt. I'm
not sure about the jury being leftist idiots.

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They might just be leftists, but
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of what yeah, I know,
as if there's a difference Lucretia and Lucretia's

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house you don't want, you don't
war. Until later on that leftist idiots

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was actually two words. But you're
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the activities before twenty sixteen, but
it continues into twenty seventeen. If it

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really was about influencing the election,
then why doesn't it just stop after Trump

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selected? And this is the other
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I thought was pretty extraordinary. Again
under the prosecution's witness, the head of

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National Acchoirer. He described doing this
for Trump, but he also described doing

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it for lots of other people who
are just celebrities, Arnold Schwarzenegger, for

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example. So apparently what's been going
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sure I wonder what's going on in
that household now. So apparently this guy,

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the interestingly named David Pecker. I
mean, you can't make this stuff

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up. But where's tom him?
Right? I know? And so he

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goes out and when there's a story
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buys the rights to the story,
and then he effectively kills it. He

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refuses to publish rather than publish,
and he kind of does this as a

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favor. It sounds like to different
celebrities that he wants to have a good

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relationship with. Now, again,
this goes to lucrecious point to the extent

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he's doing this before the election and
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to do with the timing the election. Again, that undermines the idea that

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this has anything to do with the
twenty sixteen election, which Bragg is not

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allowed to regulate anyway, right,
right, So I have a deeper reflection.

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I'm interested to think what both of
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is that one of the things that
has become more and more clear to me

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is the tendency in all of these
cases, the state cases and the Jack

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Smith case, to flip our system
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and where prosecutors are somehow arguing for
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a speedy trial, for instance,
and the government, I mean the idea

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of putting a gag order on the
defendant in the brag case. You put

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gag orders on people so that they
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And it leads me to By the
way, so I'm thinking about this as

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I'm driving to work, and so
I pick up my iPhone and turn it

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on to so I can record into
it, and I say that this makes

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me think of that idiotic statement again
by the leftist idiot Justice Kaitanji. But

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when I actually say her name in
a kind of normal voice, believe it

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or not, to my iPhone,
and it comes up as cat Angie.

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So from now on she is kat
And but remember kat Angie said that,

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uh, that that the First Amendment
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it needs to do. So my
argument, John, you're looking at me

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like I'm a little nut, so
but you always look at me that like

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that, so I shouldn't make much
of it, is that this whole lawfair

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thing has had an even more insidious
effect to miseducate the general public about the

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idea that somehow it's the government that
needs protection from the constitution. It's the

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government who has rights in a criminal
trial. It's the government who needs to

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be have its its powers insulated from
those horrible restrictions of the First Amendment.

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Do you do you understand what I'm
saying by that, guys? And do

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you agree you stump us? Not
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well, I well, let me
try first. I don't think that this

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is an issue which only runs in
one direction, because there are also conservatives

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here who have suddenly found new appreciation
for the constitutional rights defendants. So if

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you were the stereotype it, you
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and generally want to get rid of
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I have found. I don't think it's

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intentional, but I do think it's
striking a court out there. One thing

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that Trump has done in his travails
is he has revealed how much power prosecutors

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have, which most people in the
public did not understand. Now I think

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they do, and how much the
potential for abuse there is amongst prosecutors.

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prosecutors self restraint. There the courts have

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you know, long said we're not
going to police the most of what prosecutors

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do. And you know, Robert
Jackson, one of the great attorney generals,

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FDR's main legal visor, became a
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his property and his family before ever
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the things he does to you before
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be especially vigilant on themselves. And
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and he has this famous speech about
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worst thing you could do in our
system. It's almost like he anticipated Trump,

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is to pursue a man because you
don't like him. And the worst

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thing you can do is to investigate
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that's I think what's going on.
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I always enjoy it when the left
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you know, but I think it's
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amongst conservatives that may not have been
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I've been saying for years that the
police are bureaucrats in uniform, doesn't

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mean they're bad people. But let's
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I think and I actually blamed liberalism
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they became bureaucratized because of liberalism.
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police that as evolved in the last
fifty years are a good thing. You

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can say more about that, but
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the prosecutor business, this will seemed
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all the unlikely people who have blown
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Sharpton, who on MSNBC a couple
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see how we go on talking about
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things going on at college campuses,
at which point Mika Brazinski blew up and

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said, you can't say that,
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this, apparently it is true that
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not students at Colombia and some of
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right and unquestionably some of them must
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gives the justice Department jurisdiction to investigate
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I think they might have had jurisdiction
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forth, But never mind, here's
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to watch is are they going to
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of vigor that they did from some
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to that who they chase down for
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be in this is going too far, though I know it's like, I

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mean, there were these campus protests
are a problem, but do you really

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want the Justice Department investigating them?
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thought the speaker went too far.
I can see why politically it makes sense,

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but I really don't think this is
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the National Guard out to suppress the
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of an overreaction. I mean,
so there's like I'm all for. I

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think what we can easily do to
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expulsions for everyone who refuses to disperse, starting like now, and you get

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a notice and then if you're still
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Look, I mean maybe not.
It's not it's not a right, it's

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a privilege. And you send them
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parents, say now they're back,
and they're they're your problem again. We

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don't. Well no, what Look, maybe not for pas of people take

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their space, but the FBI and
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that seems well, look at sauce
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law enforcement. That's my point.
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go to all that. I was
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you're thinking about what you couldn't remember, Steve, and that is that

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I agree with John. Oh,
I know. Sorry, let me tell

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me. There was a poll,
so how far out of sink you are?

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John? A poll was taken the
last couple of days. The result

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was the question was do you believe
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be called out to the campuses to
quell these demonstrations. The spread was seventy

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six percent yes, seventeen percent No. So there you are, John,

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you're with the seventeen police. No. Police are fine, I mean like

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local police, campus police. But
I mean I don't think you want to

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militarize it. I think that's playing
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do. I want to go back
to what John said about uh. Isn't

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it interesting that the table seem to
be switching to some extent where Republicans,

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conservatives, et cetera, are all
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the criminally accused, and the it's
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protesters, you know, Trump election
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I think that there's some truth to
that. For sure. I have more

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and more of my conservative friends who
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and more anti police every day,
seriously, and I never would have expected

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that. And to some extent I'm
the same, especially when I get pulled

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over. But that's a different story. I mean, I live in a

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store's tesla. Actually, wait,
love this story. It was actually my

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son driving, but we were driving
the Tesla and he was behind a dump

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truck and the speed limit went down
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didn't slow down. He stayed at
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passed on the left by other people, gets pulled over by this, shall

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we say hefty I'm not supposed to
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what I mean. When I pick
sheriff in an onmark car, he doesn't

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pull anybody else over. He pulls
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car and gets and acts like he's
doing this huge favor by not giving a

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speeding ticket. He gives a ticket
for guess what, wasting finite resources.

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back in the old days of fifty five,

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that was supposedly the optimal right and
all that crap back John's too young

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to remember, but anyway, that's
what the ticket was. But you know,

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to my son's credit, he didn't
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you know, here's what we're sitting
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you didn't you didn't pull over people
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probably have cars that looked like they
could pay the stupid fine. And second

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of all, you can't be in
a tesla speeding wasting finite finite resources when

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you charge it from your own solar
system. It was a total digression,

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total digression. Anyway, My point
is that you're right about that to some

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extent. However, John, I
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people on the right are necessarily opposed
to the idea of rights for the

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crimly accused. And I will use
the examples you use, which were exclusionary

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rule and miranda rights, if you
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the Constitution where either of those exist. On the other hand, right to

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a speedy trial right that's a guarantee
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that you know, it's a little
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conservatives who argued against those things because
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and you know, seeing that,
seeing genuine lack of objectivity, a genuine

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partiality in the way that the law
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think those are two different things.
Although I do agree with your premise that

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you know, conservatives are starting to
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much power the government has, and
I'm not so sure I like it,

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And I'd really like to make sure
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tyranny stay in place. Anyway,
that's just my thought, but I don't

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know what you think about that.
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worst abuses are going on here and
with regard to Trump or by state and

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local prosecutors. Right, so,
uh, you know this is like you

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know, brag Fanny willis right,
the real prosecutors of Atlanta woman, This

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is so you know. The thing
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know the same thing as you,
Lucretia, My conservative friends have become much

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more uh you know, not as
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they used to be, and particularly
local Now. I mean I think that

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what this is all revealed to people
is local politics, which I you know,

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Conservs also generally tend to trust local
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seeing now the seemy underside of local
government. Well, we do know there's

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been corrupting influences on that. I
mean there's millions and millions put by George

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Soros into you know, electing corrupt
left leftist idiot same word John prosecutors like

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your San Francisco friends, and you
know los the Alvin Bragg. I don't

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know if he's a Sorows plant,
but I think Lutitia James was anyway.

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some perfidy going on there. We might

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say, yeah, so you know
that makes it well, you know what

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it's like. Okay, they beat
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they were open about what they were
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candidates, and not only did they
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is sky Krasner. He got re
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after they didn't bring prosecutions they should
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we should maybe conservatives shouldn't be so
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In local government. You know,
there's there Jeffersonian ideal because they're also

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you know, what we're seeing is
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than the federal government. I think, yeah, but I'm sorry, go

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ahead, Steve, I'm just going
to say that, I mean, there

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is a broad problem, and I
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enforcement was included in the broad problem, which is the culture of the administrative

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state. It's like the old story
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may arise from the centralized impulse,
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government. And my story about that
is the forty cases I traced about a

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decade ago, a little kid's lemonade
stance being shut down by local government for

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not having a business license for some
other pretext. Right, and now that's

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not very many in the big country, except the real number should be zero.

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No little kids lemonade stand should ever
be shut down. What's the impulse

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behind that? Pure bureaucratic mendacity.
And that's not something Washington caused. That

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is now self generated at every level
of government, and we shouldn't be It

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is true, though, John,
I mean, you know, Das you

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know, I'm will enough to remember
in California, when the most boring Republican

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would win the local DA and the
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like well, not Vincent Buliosi because
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evil younger George Duke Magen, nobody
who'd set the house on fire with his

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charisma, but was a you know, attorney general and then governor and good

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in both of those jobs. And
now we don't seem to be able to

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do that anymore. John's right too
that they beat us at our own game

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in that respect. And the Progressives, I mean the Progressives in California and

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Arizona, from the very beginning of
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how can how can we take over
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terms of getting rid of corruption,
the corruption of the party's at local governments,

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and of course it has allowed in
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love, you know that corruption at
a level unheard of or at least reform

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reform government. Yeah, at a
level unheard of, you know. So

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all right, if we're going to
get John out in time for his squash

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game the next one, so you
guys may continue after I after I go,

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well, we need you for this. John. Don't murder a man

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committing suicide. What is up with
idiot Republicans? That's gonna be one and

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their stupid bill restricting trying to define
what anti Semitic speech is. I know

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that the reach of the bill is
not that great. I get all of

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the details of it, but look, the left is imploding on itself.

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That people are watching what the left
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like this in the polls, and
what do Republicans do the stupidest thing they

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possibly could and talk about having an
unconstitutional infringement upon free speech enforced by the

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government. Am I being too Yeah? I mean, look, I think

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they are too clever by half.
I'll sort of meet you halfway on this.

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So, I mean there are two
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is you're going to get Democrats.
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let us adopt I forget the Internet
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of Semitism. Is that? And
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is that's a brilliant political move because
the left is all about international institutions

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and the international community. So uh, and the globalists like the left.

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Well okay, But then the next
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Democrats voting against that, and that
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attempt at it's an attempt at a
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I agree with you on them miserably. No, it passes the House by

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a big majority. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. It was it didn't

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fracture and it was ninety one Republicans
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the squad people. Right, well, I think there's seventy Democrats, but

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I don't remember the numbers. Now
it's it's going to die in the Senate.

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But that's going to caust them some
heartburn, and look, it's a

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dumb idea. On the other hand, I do remember it's six or seven

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years ago. Now maybe no,
it's not that far back because the Santos

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was governor. But Florida passed UH
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twenty twenty one, a bill target
any anti semitism on campuses and in the

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schools in Florida, and people raised
some of the same objections, which is,

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I think this is an infringement on
free speech and it's unconstitutional, and

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I think maybe it was challenged.
I lost track of it, but there

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was a lot of the same issue
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was done once in Florida, and
like I say, we ought to see

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where that landed. I think,
I don't think this is going to get

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any legs one way or the other. It's it's going to die in the

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Senate. And I don't know there
was a gimmick. That's I don't know

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who thought of it. It's you
know, typical John the idea, but

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I didn't think of it. Of
it from my favorite absolutist on the First

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Amendment, I'm coming more to your
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I worry about the Department of Education
being given the power to write, do

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anything. But it's a lot probes
into whether certain kind of speech is being

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favored or disfavored on college campuses.
Although I'm very suspicious of college administrators,

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I think you just compound whatever problems
there are by having the bureaucracy of Washington,

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DC's education departments starting to, you
know, make censorship decisions or what's

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allowed. Look, I abhore this
anti Semitic speech that's going on, these

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anti Semitic protests going on on campus. On the onther hand, I'm glad

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the American people can see it.
Right, I'd rather have these protesting students

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out there with their openly anti Semitic
speech and their anti Semitic encampments, and

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the American people can see it.
And I think the American buple discussed by

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it. And that's why you're getting
these kinds of poll results. Steve's talking

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about where you got seventy whatever,
seventy nine percent of the American people want

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the police or the military sentence to
squash these protests because they they are abhorred

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by it. That's the way I
think that the free you know three marketplace

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of ideas should work, and actually
is working. So I I I agree

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with you. I think there,
you know, I what our guys should

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be doing is saying, let's have
the Department Education Speech Mission hold back even

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farther because it's obviously failed. Right, It's obviously failed, So let's get

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them out of the business of policing
viewpoint, discrimination, speech, unsafe.

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You know, people were about you
know, unsafe environments on campus. Right,

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That's what this all stems from.
So the thing, the last thing

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I'll say, the the problem with
the law is that it buys into in

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the end this idea, oh,
you know, you can suppress viewpoints or

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speech because you want to have a
safe college campus. Right. That's what's

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really going on here. Every every
time I hear someone in all of this

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say the words safe, I feel
unsafe or saying that that that that waves

431
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a warning flag for me, because
safe is just now the new word that's

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used to justify the infringement. Blond
be that said the you know the I

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think it was Harvard. The students
at Harvard almost missed their their seminar on

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microaggressions because they were out protesting kill
the Jews. Yeah, yeah, right,

435
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no, that's what That's my comment
is. I always thought safety school

436
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meant to college that was easy to
get into. I didn't realize it.

437
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Now, man, every college.
And remember our friend Ben Sassy was very

438
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clear about it that we are not
daycare here. Yeah, that's why,

439
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you know, let's remember I mean, never mind the Charlottesville business. We've

440
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mentioned a couple of times. Remember
what the fuss was at Yale six seven

441
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years ago, eight years ago.
It was about Halloween costumes. Oh my

442
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god, you were thought they had
to shut down the campus for teachings because

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someone might wear a sombrero. And
right, faculty got fired. I don't

444
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.960
think they didn't. That's not quite
right. It was the christ they got.

445
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They got kicked out, as noted
from headmasters. The headmasters at at

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the residential colleges, they did.
You know, I don't know if you

447
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follow this, John, They made
Nick Christokus, who's a you know,

448
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.760
well known figure in social psychology I
think who has swung waved the right from

449
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:15.239
that experience of being yelled at by
crazy kids. They made him a sterling

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professor about two years later, which
I thought was a makeup because that's one

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of the highest honors at Yale,
right, And I thought that was their

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00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:24.840
makeup call by the administration, who
was embarrassed about how shabbily he was treated.

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Even though Peter Salivey totally capitulated to
all the crazy students. I wish

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he'd turned it down. He should
have turned it now. That would have

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been fun. But and you know, I know it sounds stupid, but

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I always wanted to say to those
people, you know what we learned when

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we were little kids. Did you
learn this in your nice Korean household?

458
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John, Sticks and stones may break
my bones, but words can never hurt

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00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:53.000
me. No, didn't learn that
one a lot. By the way,

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I can connect with your first story. You see Lucretia and you said,

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you know, don't don't murder a
man who's committing suicide. I thought you

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were going to talk about the and
maybe you are the wider campus scene.

463
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Could I tie together the first story. In this one, you mentioned the

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almost Tom Wolf quality of the first
witness of the Trump trial, David Pecker.

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Did you see the video of the
woman demanding the Columbia send food into

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the protesters who are occupying Hamilton Hall. Her name, she want to see.

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I want to see what you'll make
of her name. Her name was

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Joanna king Slutsky. Yes you know
hyphen name king Slutsky. And what she

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said was she wanted She said that
they were did they? The last of

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it was, do you really want
students to be dehydrated, hungary and possibly

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become ill because you don't agree with
our views? Can't we at least get

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a glass of water? Yeah?
It was. It was unbelievable. But

473
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she also is doing her dissert I
don't think it's their dissertation. I think

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it's what she her. Her Her
research is in a Marxist perspective. I

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have a poetry right, I have
it right here. It's not too long.

476
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Let me read it to you because
it's too fun to not share with

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00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:17.239
listeners. It is. My dissertation
is on the fantasies of limitless energy in

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the Transatlantic Romantic Imagination from seventeen sixty
to eighteen sixty. My goal is to

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write a prehistory of metabolic rift,
Marxi's term for the disruption of energy circuits

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caused by industrialization under capitalism. I'm
particularly interested in theories of the imagination and

481
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poetry as interpreted through a Marxian lens, in order to update and propose an

482
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alternative to historicist ideological critiques of the
romanticy. Yeah, that was that's not

483
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even a fake yawn. I really
just yned down. Well, there's more

484
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about how she was a progressive activist
and all that. No, and that's

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00:36:52.719 --> 00:37:00.320
Joanna King Slutsky. Don't murder a
man when they're committed committing suicide. That

486
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thing went so viral. And on
the other side of it, I don't

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know, John, I never know
what you're up up with them. The

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00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.639
the you know, the news.
The real news was what happens inside your

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00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:19.880
hallowed halls at Berkeley the so at
u NC some frat boys, frat boys

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fraternity. The protesters had pulled down
the American flag and oh yeah, and

491
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put up a Palestinian flag. So
it wasn't boys who they I think it

492
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.760
was the campus police, but I
forget. But so the American flag goes

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00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.159
back up and the Palestinian protesters try
to take it back down, and this

494
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:49.920
huge group of frat boys surround the
flagpole and the protesters are pelting things at

495
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.840
him and spinning on them. They're
just standing there and they start singing the

496
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.920
national anthem, and they and they
keep the flag up and the protesters finally

497
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.320
give up and go away. Well
so somebody just you know, this goes

498
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viral on social media, and then
somebody starts to go fund me to throw

499
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:17.719
the bros a rager, a party, right you know, to celebrate them,

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thank them for doing this. So
they started gofund me. As of

501
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:27.159
last night they shut it down,
it was over half a million dollars right

502
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and Ros and the biggest their biggest
contribution was ten thousand dollars from Bill Ackman,

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who has really got religion over this. No, they wanted to raise

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like one hundred and fifty thousand bucks
and they raised five hundred thousand. This

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00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:44.679
is fantastic. They're going to get
most of it to charity, but a

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00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:50.159
bunch of a bunch of right wing
celebrities have said they'll play John Rich is

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going to write a song and play
a free concert for their rager and others.

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00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:58.719
Yeah, so Christopher Scalia tweeted out
that he's working on a country song

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called Don't Try This at a State
University. So again, what I want,

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00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.119
I want to have a little bit
deeper conversation about this. We've had

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a discussion for several years at least
now, about what do we do about

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00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:17.519
this rot at at our universities,
and especially our elite universities. And they've

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you know, the gay and the
other person who testified before Congress obviously did

514
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great harm to the reputation of elite
universities, and it's been going downhill for

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some time. Anyway, higher education
in general does not get anywhere near the

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00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:42.320
respect it used to. And you
know, there's all people who have jobs

517
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:46.079
instead of academic degrees are looked on
more favorably than they used to be.

518
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Okay, is this going to signal
a huge jump where our elite universities and

519
00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:00.519
degrees, sorry, John, degrees
from elite universities really won't matter very much

520
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.519
anymore. What do you think I
have? It's interesting and part of this

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speaking, Tory went on, I
met a professor whose name will be kept

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anonymous, whose son is going to
a very prestigious prep school. And he

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00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:22.000
said his son and his friends,
even though their parents are sending them to

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00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.760
his prep school to get them into
the kind of colleges that the CREATU is

525
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:31.719
talking about and that I was very
happy to go to. Said these friends,

526
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this son and this many friends are
all decided to go to SEC colleges

527
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Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Flord
And he said the parents are horrified by

528
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this, but they also want to
know why, and they've been told by

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their kids. And this was going
on before the protest, but the protest

530
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.719
is just, you know, it's
just exacerbated. It is that they feel

531
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they're going to be harassed and discriminated
against because of their traditional views and these

532
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.920
colleges and they feel, meaning this
is not true, but they feel that

533
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:10.199
at the SEC, the large Southern
and Western Land Grant colleges, that they

534
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.199
will be treated much more fairly and
that their careers will be better off.

535
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That's right. I still don't think
that's true. Well, I can see

536
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:23.960
why youngsters think that, but I'm
still not sure that the credentialing effect of

537
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.119
the I League school is going to
it's been suffering, it's going to suffer,

538
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.360
but I still don't see it being
overthrown by this. Maybe there'll be

539
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:37.519
a sort of time limit. Like
you know, I'm John you I went

540
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:43.079
to Yale and Harvard, but it
was pre nineteen nineteen ninety five or something

541
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.039
like that, and so my degree
actually matters. But anybody who went to

542
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:52.719
Harvard Yale in the twenty tens and
beyond is you know, basically an illiterate

543
00:41:52.800 --> 00:42:01.599
moron who's been propagandized and brainwashed by
a bunch of lefty professors. So I

544
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.280
know, John, you have to
go in a couple of minutes the quick

545
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:09.000
question did you ever have any courses
at Harvard from Nat Laser? Nathan Glazer?

546
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.320
No, No, I know who
he is, but I didn't take

547
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.519
it. Yeah, you know want
the famous sociologists, So a sociologists.

548
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.519
I just dusted off. It came
out of a box of you know,

549
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:21.119
books of wine have been stored for
a long time. By the way,

550
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:25.079
everyone can't see how nice Steve's background
finally looks because he has unveiled his new

551
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.239
library. And I know he's been
posting on Facebook every time he files a

552
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.199
book in his new bookshelf, he
puts a picture of it. On Facebook.

553
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:36.960
This is my actual detached home office
that hasn't changed. I know it's

554
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.159
beautiful, It's really beautiful. Oh
no, no, John, I got

555
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:46.719
my poster at the Oh your Churchill
posters, yeah, deserve great church posts.

556
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.440
I've got mine from the world from
the in London, the Imperial War

557
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:58.599
Museum. That's what the Imperial War
Museum. So so Glazier, you know.

558
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.679
He became known as one of them
conservatives. But he was at Berkeley

559
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.119
in sixty four for this free speech
movement and was at the very center of

560
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.920
the faculty trying to broke or a
compromise. And I found his collection of

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00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:14.320
essays called Remembering the Answers Essays on
the American Student Revolt, and I've read

562
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:17.400
a few years ago, but one
written in nineteen sixty eight. Just two

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00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:22.960
sentences from it, because this tell
you how how radically things have changed from

564
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:27.559
them to now, and then raises
a question. This is a chapter called

565
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.119
the Jewish Role in Student Activism,
published in nineteen sixty eight. First sentence,

566
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this is not a period in American
history in which there is much danger

567
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.480
that Jews will suffer from unequal treatment, prejudice, or discrimination. That's his

568
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:46.079
first sentence right, and then the
next page a little longer. But because

569
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indeed, since Jews are no longer
attacked except in publications of small circulation,

570
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.360
and there he has in mind,
you know this old old crazy right wing

571
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stuff. Perhaps yeah, right,
since jew actually the Birchers weren't Semitic,

572
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But never mind. From now,
since Jews are no longer attacked except in

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publications small as responsible for the destruction
of morality, religion, personal liberty,

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00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.800
and private property, it becomes possible
to discuss and analyze, even if with

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00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.239
an apology for doing so, the
reasons why the children of generally liberal,

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00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:21.559
enlightened and prosperous businessmen and professionals,
which is what Jews for the most part,

577
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are, are to be found predominantly
both in the leadership and among the

578
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:30.239
followers of the broad and variegated body
of student protesters and radicals. So two

579
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.880
things have changed. One is Jews
are not immune in fact of the principal

580
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.880
target of discrimination and hatred on campuses. This is obvious. And second,

581
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a lot of this essays concerned with
the questions goes back decades is why were

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so many Communist leaders Jews, even
though Mark was anti Semitic and all the

583
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.440
rest of that. I am wondering
two things, if we're going to see

584
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another generation of people like Glazer.
This whole book says, I can't believe

585
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:59.639
I thought of myself as a radical
and now I'm a conservative and it was

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the student revolution the sixties and seventies
or what did it? And he explains

587
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:06.239
all this a great detail. I
wonder if we're going to see that kind

588
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:10.119
of transformation again from you know,
smarter liberals in the academy, and whether

589
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:16.440
we're going to see especially Jewish students
of whatever disposition turned conservative. Also that

590
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:22.400
I've got I've got a few colleagues
that I've talked to who have not just

591
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.360
at Berkeley, other schools, who've
told me, because of all this,

592
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.960
they will not be voting for Biden
this time. They're not going to give

593
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.639
any money to Biden. They hated
Trump in the last two elections, but

594
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they're going to vote for Trump.
I was, I was actually flabbergasted by

595
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.840
this. I do think John's what
John always accuses our arguments of being this

596
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.119
sort of the cut rate Marxism.
I think that's there is a lot to

597
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:53.239
that in this particular case, when
you look at I mean, never mind

598
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:58.119
the fact that we know marxis Marx
was an anti semi so, but what

599
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:07.199
the whole narrative forgive me again around
free speech is no longer a free speech

600
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for all. Free speech as a
principle absolute free speech. It's free speech

601
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:19.159
for the oppressed, but not the
oppressor. And when Jews became identified not

602
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:23.960
with the oppressed but with the oppressor, they no longer have they a They

603
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:27.840
no longer have the right to free
speech. I mean, we've even seen

604
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:35.840
instances where police will shut earlier in
this whole debacle, police would shut down

605
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:42.559
Jews speaking out against the pro Palestinians
or pro Israel getting shut down. But

606
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:50.119
also just this idea that that what
those dumb pro Palestinian idiots are out there

607
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.159
screaming it makes no sense of free
speech. It's about power, and it's

608
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:59.159
about power of the oppressed against the
oppressor. And that's the only thing that

609
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.159
they can that they have to bring
to bear against against Israel, because if

610
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:07.559
they actually understood and even one fact
about the situation, they couldn't say any

611
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.480
of the nonsense that they say.
Right So, so I think that as

612
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:21.000
more and more Jews realize that they
bought into the leftist nonsense and that whole

613
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:28.639
oppressor oppressed dynamic, Marxist dynamic has
now turned against them. I think I

614
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.880
think you're right. I think more
and more Jews will have to become conservative.

615
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.199
John has to go because he's that's
okay. We'll carry on without you,

616
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:43.039
John, any other people depended on
me showing up. We will will

617
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:45.320
talk about you behind your back and
truth to our listeners why you're wrong about

618
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:49.719
it. As I tell people,
Lucretia always goes to stab you in the

619
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.960
front. Don't worry exactly. I
never stabbed people in the back. I

620
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:58.760
never say anything that I wouldn't say
to their face. Ever. There have

621
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:04.079
fun, John, I see you
next week. Yeah, well, let's

622
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:05.519
see. I mean, where to
go with all that? I mean,

623
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:08.079
you know, we'll just see.
But I think that this is another cataclysmic

624
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.840
moment that takes a while to play
out, right, I mean that I

625
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:17.639
did think that's true. We'll see
a little bit of a respite because you

626
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.880
know, it's the end of the
school year and some of this will die

627
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:27.639
down. But but talking today with
the person who's in charge of incident command

628
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:35.960
on my university and one of the
things that they are doing to because we

629
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:40.960
have convocations and graduation next week.
One of the things that they are doing

630
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:46.119
this is very interesting, I think, to forestall any kind of violence or

631
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:52.039
disruption to these you know, important
ceremonies is they've they've set up a security

632
00:48:52.079 --> 00:49:01.320
perimeter where they're stopping students or others
from bringing in paces of water plywood,

633
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.639
which he showed me pictures of the
protests that that they put down on Tuesday

634
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:14.119
of this week, and somebody had
brought in a couch. A couch,

635
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:20.400
I mean, and you know,
just so obviously these things are being funded.

636
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:25.119
They're not grassroots operations by any stretch
of the imagination, and they're obviously

637
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:30.480
being probably funded by Iran and or
George Soros and some combination of other awful

638
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:37.360
groups. But but how interesting that
that you that these protests, these these

639
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:44.920
idiot students are so pathetic that they
can't make it through a protest without cases

640
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:52.760
of bottled water, alkaline bottled water
and vegan burritos. You know, sorry,

641
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:59.519
I'm big, but I know not
you I know, interesting that it's

642
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:06.599
not as if these really are grassroots
uprisings of students who are somehow all of

643
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:13.000
a sudden in solidarity with Gaza.
You know, I'm sure a few of

644
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:17.400
them are, you know, the
result of the brainwashing by their professors.

645
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.039
But you know it's I do think
it will be a watershed moment, Steve.

646
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.440
We'll see it will take it day
out, right, I mean it.

647
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:30.559
But also I mean, yeah,
things may go. I mean clearly,

648
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:35.239
these cowardly administrators are playing for time
and saying, gosh, the school

649
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.079
year is almost over. If we
can just get through graduation in the next

650
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.280
two weeks, it'll all die down
and things will calm down and we can

651
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.639
go back to normal and we don't
have to do anything serious, right,

652
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:46.000
we don't have to discipline anybody,
or if you're like the Columbia professors sent

653
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:49.679
out the email to his students saying, oh, you've all been through so

654
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.480
much. I'm not going to hold
the final. I'm going to just give

655
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.000
you all a's in the class.
Right, Yeah, that's right. That's

656
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:59.599
gonna be good for Columbia's reputation.
Do you remember what John said last week

657
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:05.000
Babylon B He said, any Asian
kid who is relegated to Columbia would be

658
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:10.920
an embarrassment to his family. But
I'm not so sure by the way,

659
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.039
that that that that hope on the
part of the coward administrators is right.

660
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:19.760
So I meaning what, well,
I don't know if we mentioned this,

661
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.719
but you know, their little detail
came out the evening of Iran's sort of

662
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.880
slow motion, slow cruise missile attack
on Israel, and the news items said,

663
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:34.559
oh, several groups at planning meetings
for the Democratic Invention in Chicago broke

664
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.800
out into cheers that news of the
Irani attack on Israel, and what the

665
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.920
people's takeaway was, Oh, it
shows that the people protesting are not anti

666
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.519
war at all, they're anti Israel. And I thought, wait a minute,

667
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:50.519
they're having planning meetings to disrupt the
Democratic Convention in August. I think

668
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.679
that now, of course, you
know, the people who actually ride in

669
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.480
sixty eight, they're all, you
know, eighty something years old now,

670
00:51:55.559 --> 00:52:00.000
they're still alive at all. But
I think there's the sort of historical legend

671
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:01.840
of that, and I think there's
going to be a real attempt to recreate

672
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:06.559
that. I think, by the
way, it's unlickly to succeed, only

673
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.920
because I know a little about this
that convention security now is so much more

674
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:13.880
intense than it was in the sixties. The perimeters are much farther away from

675
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.119
the halls and the hotels. That
doesn't mean they won't cause some action and

676
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:22.239
rowdiness, mostly probably outside the perimeters. Right, Yeah, that's right.

677
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.280
And I think the Democrats are going
to work very hard with their media friends

678
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:30.079
to not televise it and not report
on it very much, and then they

679
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.079
will have discipline inside the hall to
not call attention to it. I mean,

680
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:37.079
one of the things that happened in
sixty eight is the riot outside cost

681
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:42.679
almost literally a riot inside. And
okay, but then I also think that

682
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.239
if Israel opens a second front against
Hesbola, which is thought to be on

683
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:51.760
the way when they finally get done
with Gaza or something else will touch it

684
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.840
off. And again the cycle of
protests in the sixties, there were several

685
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:58.079
phases to it and it didn't take
you know, once the energies have been

686
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.239
released, it doesn't take much of
a spark to set it back up again.

687
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:05.159
And you know I do, by
the way, see people on the

688
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.280
left saying this is not going to
end until we have a repeat of Kent

689
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:12.639
State. That's where you know,
young National Guard troops, many of them

690
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:16.159
the same age as the protesters,
probably not well trained in that circumstance they're

691
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.880
in. It's still, by the
way, unclear whether there was an order

692
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.320
to fire or somebody panicked, but
you know, four kids got shot.

693
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.360
And by the way, there were
opinion polls taken after that, and you

694
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.719
know, majority of Americans sided with
the National Guard, just as the overwhelming

695
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:36.639
majority right now of Americans are disgust
at what's going on on campus and Democrats

696
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:37.880
can't seem to figure this out.
I mean, if ever there was an

697
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.639
easy sister soldier moment of legend of
the Clinton years, it's right now and

698
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.519
they can't do it. They can't
do it. But you know what music

699
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:50.320
and Republicans, which leads to me
to my first Babylon b Well wait a

700
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.400
minute, Well all right now,
let's linger on that for a minute.

701
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.599
I mean, I won't get into
the substance of it. But you know,

702
00:53:55.639 --> 00:54:00.320
the one person who knew how to
exploit this was Governor Reagan. And

703
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.039
you know, both of my books
were actually the first volume has a lot

704
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:07.519
of detail about the way he would. First of all, just the one

705
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.039
thing I'll mention only he did call
out the National Guard at Berkeley in nineteen

706
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:15.400
seventy and had the helicopter spray an
air raid on students. He had the

707
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:22.159
helicopter spray tear gas versus drub everybody
out their minds. But he also never

708
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:27.320
the university shut tear guests and rubber
bullets. All this. Well, good

709
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:29.880
for you guys, and I think
maybe other places have done this too.

710
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:35.559
But the other thing is is Reagan
never for a moment humored any of the

711
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.559
pretensions of the protesters. Everybody else
will saying, well, they're Idealistsy're just

712
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.280
misguided. Gregan said, no,
there are a bunch of punk idiots.

713
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.599
Yep, you know, full stop. He said it more eloquently than that.

714
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:49.559
But look, I mean, there's
all I'm going to say is this,

715
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:51.599
and then you can do your headlines
and we'll get im just gonna say,

716
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.280
Steve, a whole bunch of clips
of that were all over Twitter,

717
00:54:55.159 --> 00:55:00.960
black and white of that right.
Well, And of course Reagan used his

718
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.480
wit, which Trump could do too. I think, by the way,

719
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:06.280
I'll say that, well, you
know, Reagan used to say, uh,

720
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.159
well, the hippie say make love
not war. Doesn't look to me

721
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:15.119
like they're capable of much of either
one, right, he would mock them.

722
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.000
And you know, I had a
nightmare last night. I dreamed I

723
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:22.079
owned a laundromat in Berkeley. Ro
was great stuff, right, So he

724
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:27.519
would be tough and angry and also
funny and ridiculing and mocking. Who is

725
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.519
better at that combo than Trump?
So remember last thing, I'll say,

726
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:36.000
Sorry, I'm going on along here. Remember in Charlottesville when he said the

727
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:39.800
next day when he's both find people
on both sides, comment was wrenched from

728
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:44.760
contract context and light about he said, don't think they're going to stop Roberty

729
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:47.800
Lee's statue. They're going to go
after Jefferson Washington next, right, And

730
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:51.800
some reports said, oh no,
that would never happen, and Trump said,

731
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:54.159
excuse me, they were slaveholders.
You're not paying attention, are you?

732
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:59.159
Well guess what that did happen in
twenty twenty in the George Floyd riots.

733
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:01.800
And then coming to is you may
have seen the picture where the statue

734
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:06.159
of George Washington on the Columbia campus. It wasn't toppled, but it was

735
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:10.000
defaced and wrapped up in cloth and
painted, you know stuff, and you

736
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.679
know, obscured. And my joke
about it is what these students think they're

737
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:19.039
Christo. You know that crazy artists
would wrap castles and things. I think

738
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:21.360
that ought to be a Trump ad. I think you got to put that

739
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.480
up and saying I told you so, and this is crazy stuff, and

740
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:29.280
they're they're whole, they're wholly owned
by Joe Biden the Democratic Party, which

741
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.119
is true. And I think you
hit a lot of mileage with that.

742
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:35.800
It's sure worked for Nixon and for
Reagan in the late sixties and thirty seventies.

743
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:42.159
So and I do say, go
ahead, they will. But again,

744
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:47.119
Republicans in Congress man oh man,
Sorry, I actually don't see the

745
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:52.159
cleverness to that, but maybe maybe
it'll play out differently to the to the

746
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.920
legislation, make it all right that
whatever it's called, right, Yeah,

747
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.880
okay, So, which leads me
again you can you can still on anything,

748
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.000
but I was I wanted to get
this one out there. Moments from

749
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:13.880
victory against Democrats, Republicans decided to
start attacking First Amendment is headline or yes,

750
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.079
yes it is, but it's really
not satire. Yeah yeah, so

751
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.440
this one, this one is satire
but still funny. Uh. Immigration crisis

752
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:36.000
ended as frat boys deployed to guard
southern border. Yes, and Congressional Democrats

753
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:42.159
demand forty billion for UCLA protest border
security. Did you see what they put?

754
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:45.239
I mean, it's just amazing to
me. And then we didn't get

755
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:51.159
to this story. Fine, you
heard about the whistleblower who, the healthy,

756
00:57:51.280 --> 00:58:00.039
young whistleblower ended up dying of natural
causes at fort whistleblower right sadly announces

757
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:06.760
whistleblowers shot self and back while falling
off skyscraper directly into wood chipper while wearing

758
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.199
cement shoes. Yeah. The other
joke I heard someone say, is this

759
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:14.719
Hillary Clinton on the board of Boeing
or something like that. You know it's

760
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.159
no, that's just very weird.
Well, a couple of little ones.

761
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.840
History repeats itself as Communists run out
of food and they show our friends slut

762
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:31.440
ski kind Lalla ended with this tragedy. AOC announces she was killed during New

763
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:40.559
York PD raid at Columbia and is
dead again, going to be John tonight.

764
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:44.480
Yeah, you get to do the
whole thing, So always drink your

765
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:57.599
lafroug neat. Let's go Brandon and
God saved the Queen Man lips nothing.

766
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:08.760
Nothing makes sense. What's you're talking
about? Stay out of the way.

767
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:17.800
Gotta make this creep, don't me. I don't love you. It's hot,

768
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:32.000
so you you do you that,
I'll do me. They'll do you.

769
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:42.679
No love lost, no reson.
We've got lessons. We've got to

770
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:55.360
No love loss, no reason,
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