WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:07.839 This is Monnight Cap on seven hundred WLW for Monday night, July first, 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.439 twenty twenty four. I'm Jerry J. F. Walker and the Big Show 3 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:15.919 tonight one of th threer reads off nights that I get to be with you 4 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:22.320 on the radio Independence Day weeks. And I think not only this entire week, 5 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.719 we ought to celebrate the beauty that is the United States of America, 6 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:31.760 the republic for which that flag stands, because in fact, the entire month 7 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:37.159 of July we just had Pride Month. The entire month of July should be 8 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:43.560 Pride in America month every year. I'm declaring it. If no one else 9 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.679 celebrates it, I certainly will. Before we get started with tonight's guests, 10 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:52.640 and it's a great show. A few words. I wanted to let my 11 00:00:52.799 --> 00:01:00.200 voice join the chorus of thousands over the weekend who have taken time to remember 12 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:06.879 and to eulogize as best we can when words don't even do justice to this 13 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.680 man, the passing of Jim Scott, legendary seven under WLW radio personality of 14 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:19.280 forty seven year radio vet who of course finally passed and lost his battle with 15 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:26.640 als last Friday. And I just have a couple of stories. You know, 16 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:32.239 when people pass, whether they're well known and famous like Jim Scott or 17 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:40.599 just Joe Anybody or Jane Anybody, the platitudes and the kudos flow like wine, 18 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:47.159 and they should remembering the legacy that that person has left, you know. 19 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:52.239 And unless it's Adolf Hitler or Charles Manson or somebody like that, everybody 20 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:57.239 speaks well of those who have gone. And in Jim Scott's case, it 21 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:05.000 is so well deserved things that I would say about him, if God willing, 22 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:08.520 he were still here with us on this earth. The first story, 23 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:13.639 though, is kind of funny. It was funny to me anyway, knowing 24 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:17.560 Jim Scott the way I did, and we weren't extremely close, but we 25 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:25.639 worked together for many years here at the Media Death Star that is seven under 26 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:34.319 WLW, and we moved into our new studios in Kenwood in two thousand and 27 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:39.159 four, so we're going back twenty years now. And in these new studios 28 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:46.520 they built this performance studio. It was huge, double pine glass where bands 29 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:50.759 could come in and play for WEBN or one of the other music stations we 30 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:57.439 had in our group at the time. And we're just allD taking a tour 31 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:00.400 of the new studios that we were going to be working out of, and 32 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.800 Jim is standing at the window in front of that performance studio, just kind 33 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:09.680 of gazing in, and I saddled up beside him and I said, Jim, 34 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:14.840 I bet this reminds you of your early days in radio back in the 35 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:20.639 thirties, when stations had live works trists playing for them. He flashed the 36 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:29.879 biggest seg famous Jim Scott smile. It was always warm and endearing. Had 37 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:35.759 looked at me and said, bleep you. Only he didn't say bleep you, 38 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.319 but it was sincere and it was good natured when he said it. 39 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:45.719 And then he just smiled and walked away. So I got to bleep you 40 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:49.879 out of Jim Scott. I'm extremely proud of that somehow, that I elicit 41 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:54.360 that kind of response from one of the nicest men I ever met in this 42 00:03:54.479 --> 00:04:02.400 business. Second story that I take away, I remember Jim Scott tonight back 43 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.759 in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen. I think it was twenty sixteen because it 44 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:12.240 was the year after Jim had retired. He was still very involved, as 45 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:17.360 Jim was involved in everything all the time, even after he stopped full time 46 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:23.040 work. Here. He pulled me. He was here at the studio doing 47 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:27.399 a commercial or something, and Jim was still doing Kroger's spots and he would 48 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:30.920 come to the studio and do those. And he saw me walking down the 49 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:34.040 hallway and he said, Gary, Jeff, you got a minute? I 50 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:36.959 said, do I have a minute for the great Jim Scott? Of course 51 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.199 no, I said, Jim, sure what you need. I wanted to 52 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:46.519 ask you a favor. And he pulled me into a side studio and said, 53 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.480 Gary, Jeff, I really think you should should be. I think 54 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:56.639 you ought to be and I wish you would volunteer for this year's Salvation Army 55 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:01.319 Red Kettle campaign, the bell ringing campaign. And I said, not going 56 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.120 to turn down Jim Scott. You talk about offers you can't refuse, right, 57 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.199 And I said, sure, you know what, if I can work 58 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.519 it out of my schedule, I would love to do that and help you 59 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:17.319 out, I'll volunteer. So I did with my wife christ to two point 60 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:23.519 zero and we went to the Newport Pavilion Kroger and stood inside the entryway there 61 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:27.800 on a very cold, windy December day, and for two hours we rang 62 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:32.040 the bell and collected money for the Salvation Army, you know the thing. 63 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:40.639 And it was one of the most fulfilling two hours that I have spent in 64 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:46.439 my entire career here in Cincinnati. Not that I was doing anything great. 65 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.839 I was just standing there and smiling at people and asking him to give to 66 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:55.040 the Salvation Army at Christmas time. No big deal, right, but for 67 00:05:55.120 --> 00:06:02.879 me and for my wife, we felt so good being there and it was 68 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:09.959 all because of Jim Scott's encouragement. Jim Scott was what I call a collector 69 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:16.000 of people, and by that I mean he seemed to really care about everyone 70 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.879 he came into contact with, and he was busy in the community, as 71 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:27.759 many have stated all the time, not to get paid, not for any 72 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.800 other reason, but he felt like he needed to be involved in the community 73 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.480 always and if there was a charity, if there was a big event, 74 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:44.079 and from the smallest little charity events to the big gallas, Jim Scott rubbed 75 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:53.480 elbows with everyone and made everyone feel important. And the thing that keeps coming 76 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:58.920 back to me and the stories that I've heard over the weekend are all the 77 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:05.199 same, and that means when Jim Scott was taking a minute, a minute 78 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:11.120 and a half two minutes to shake hands, kiss babies, and walk the 79 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:17.199 room and meet everyone who was there. Hi, I'm Jim Scott. He 80 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:25.040 actually cared about the conversation. It wasn't one ear and out the other. 81 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:29.480 In one ear and out the other with Jim, And if you saw him 82 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.079 months or even a couple of years later, he would remember, if not 83 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:38.240 your name, he would remember the conversation that that brief one and a half 84 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:43.879 meant. Well, he's meeting fifty people at once. He would remember your 85 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:54.560 spouse's name. He was truly a great human being. And to be a 86 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:59.160 human being one is to be flawed, and Jim had his. I'm sure 87 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.879 like everybody else, but of the people that I have met in this business, 88 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:11.560 nobody better, nobody finer than the late Jim Scott. And with that 89 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:16.079 we'll begin tonight's program. In earnest our first guest just around the corner. 90 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:22.759 Hang on, this is the nightcap on seven hundred WLW. We are talking 91 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:28.399 about rediscovering America on this Independence Week in twenty twenty four, Gary, Jeff 92 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:35.480 Walker, and once again Scott Powell rejoins us as we rediscover the fourth of 93 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:43.159 July and talk about how important the significance of what these people did that we 94 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:50.080 celebrate and what they brought forth on this continent that we celebrate and our heritage. 95 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.039 Really and you say, and I agree with you, Scott, that 96 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.080 this is definitely the providence of God. None of this happens without the hand 97 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:03.679 of God on this name. Oh yeah, it's amazing. And I'll share 98 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.919 a story a story with you anyway. But we feel that, you know, 99 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.720 the odds are against us today, it seems that way, but we 100 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:15.639 can take heart and resolve from our history. You know, in the first 101 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.919 few years of the War of Independence, George Washington's undertrained, under equipped, 102 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.960 an underfunded Continental Army was a half the size of the highly trained, professional 103 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:31.279 British Army and their allied German Hisitsian mercenary troops. But the naval mismatch was 104 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:37.639 even greater. The Continental Navy had about twenty five converted merchant ships, while 105 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.840 the British naval power was more than ten times greater, with two hundred and 106 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:46.840 seventy dedicated warships. And when you have a dedicated warship, it typically in 107 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:54.120 those days was three decks of cannons on each side of the warship, whereas 108 00:09:54.440 --> 00:10:00.360 the American the Continental Navy converted merchant ships would have, you know, no 109 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:05.600 cannons on the sides, because they were designed as as merchant ships, so 110 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:07.320 they might have cannons on the top deck. And that was it. So 111 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:15.120 we were totally you know, out gunned, outclassed by numbers in both armies 112 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:18.480 and navy, and things looked very grim for the American cause. However, 113 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:24.480 the courage, determination, and godly faith of our founders made all the difference. 114 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:30.080 And I always want to tell people the summer year about the Last Sentence, 115 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.440 remind them of the last Sentence and the Declaration of Independence, which which 116 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:39.759 appears before space allocated for the signatures. And what it says is that the 117 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:46.039 founders supported the declaration with a firm reliance on the protections of divine providence, 118 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:52.240 and they mutually pledged to each other their lives, their fortunes, and their 119 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:58.519 sacred honor. Yep. Remarkable. And you know, and George Washington, 120 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:05.399 how did he prevail against the overwhelming odds of the greatest military power in the 121 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:13.759 world. It was an impossible, an impossibility. So to understand that we 122 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:20.639 best go back to seventeen fifty five, more than twenty years before the Revolutionary 123 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:28.679 War, when George Washington was serving in the British in the British Army, 124 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:33.759 he was trained and he was raised up as a junior officer. He was 125 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:39.000 twenty two years old. And at that time the British decided they were going 126 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:43.679 to retake Fort Duquine up in Pittsburgh. So they were marching up there. 127 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.559 And this was in the time of the French and Indian War, and it 128 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.279 was really French, Indian and British War, to tell you the truth. 129 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:56.519 There was territorial dispute going on, and it was a garrison of about fourteen 130 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:01.759 hundred troops. Washington was the un your most officer. He was a colonel, 131 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:09.240 only twenty two years old. The British garrison was ambushed in an open 132 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:16.159 area, open field with trees on both sides, and the Indian sharpshooters began 133 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:20.600 taking down all the Americans. And they were told, you shoot the officers 134 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:24.080 and horseback first, because if we can, if we can eliminate, if 135 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.759 we can kill the officers, then we can capture everybody. So one by 136 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.039 one all those officers went down, all those British officers, but there was 137 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:35.879 one they couldn't seem to hit. And he was a big man. He 138 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:41.519 was six foot three. He was quite a great horseman. And try as 139 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.080 they would to train their rifles on him and kill him, they couldn't take 140 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.720 him down. They did shoot out two of his horses. And the person 141 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:54.919 I'm speaking about is George Washington. George Washington lost two horses from those sharpshooters 142 00:12:54.919 --> 00:13:00.480 who were shooting at him, but hit the horses instead. And so finally 143 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.759 Washington is on his third horse, and he is the last officer and he 144 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:11.639 organizes the retreat, and it was a successful retreat. Of course, they 145 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.440 lost so many people. Probably more than seven hundred were lost out of the 146 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:20.240 fourteen fifteen hundred. And that evening, when Washington took off his uniform, 147 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.240 he found that he had four bullet holes through his uniform, four separate bullet 148 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.320 holes. And he realized that God had protected him, that he was alive 149 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.639 because of God's protection. And we know this is a true story because Washington 150 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:39.080 wrote his brother and he described the whole thing, and he knew that he 151 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:45.000 had God's protection. So when twenty one years later he was made commander in 152 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:52.279 chief of the Continental Army, that was underfunded, under equipped, totally outnumbered 153 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.200 by the British. He had that same understanding that he would be protected by 154 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:01.480 God. So he always led the troops from the front on his horse. 155 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.759 But he was never he never suffered any wounds. You know, when you're 156 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.720 in the front, you're more likely to be taken out. But Washington, 157 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.759 he was a protective man and he inspired the courage amongst his troops that was 158 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:20.519 incredible. So even though he lost more, you know, he lost more 159 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:26.399 battles than he won in the sixth year War of Independence, he persisted. 160 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.240 And the qualities that he had included, you know, he had first and 161 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.840 foremost was his faith in God, but had he had courage and persistence. 162 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:43.320 Those three qualities combined together to keep his troops faithful and still fighting. And 163 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:48.279 finally, when God arranged, it was God's providence that arranged the Yorktown situation 164 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:56.519 which enabled him to win a victory. The final victory was in seventeen eighty 165 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.559 one in Yorktown where the British surrendered and they decided, you know, they'd 166 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:03.919 had enough that Washington was never going to give up, and they just better 167 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.360 pack their bags and go back to Great Britain. So that was the end 168 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:13.360 of the Revolutionary War. And it was all accomplished by God's providence, by 169 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:20.679 courage, faith and persistence, And it's just a great story of how we 170 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.519 began and our country was formed with Godly ideals. You know, the Declaration 171 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:33.480 was sort of transcribed into a constitution that still basically had the vision of the 172 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:41.120 Declaration encapsulated in a governmental form, and this enabled our country to prosper and 173 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:45.639 grow and become a superpower in economic superpower in less than two hundred years, 174 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:50.039 the number one superpower. And this was all due to God's hand on America. 175 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:56.159 But more importantly than becoming an economic superpower, America was a moral superpower. 176 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:00.519 Well, you know, it was like no other country in the world. 177 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:04.000 And you know, we're reminded in Proverbs that righteousness exalts a nation, 178 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:11.200 but sin is a disgrace to any people. And we were a righteous and 179 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:15.279 moral nation right up into the mid twentieth century. But when we took prayer 180 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:21.399 out of school and we legalized abortion, and then it's gone on from there. 181 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.559 Well, way, by the way, Scott, there are all kinds 182 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:29.639 of reasons for us to hold out hope, Yes, and number one is 183 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.320 our faith in God, as you have mentioned, But there were little things 184 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:37.200 that are happening all the time. The Ten Commandments have been restored to Louisiana 185 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.639 public schools by law. Did you know that? I did know that. 186 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:48.320 And heelujah, hallelujah. And you mentioned you mentioned the signers of the Declaration 187 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:51.679 of Independence. Real quickly before we head out of here, and I'm talking 188 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:56.559 to Scott Powell Rediscovering the fourth of July. Rediscovering America is the book that 189 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:02.519 you ought to own if you care about this country. Five signers were captured 190 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:07.960 by the British, tortured before they killed them, Twelve had their homes ransacked 191 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:12.640 and burned, Two lost their sons in the Revolutionary Army, another two had 192 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:18.599 sons captured. Nine of the fifty six signers fought and died from wounds of 193 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:25.160 hardship of the Revolutionary War. So when they pledged their lives, their fortunes, 194 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:27.680 and their sacred honor, they meant it. And that's the thing. 195 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:33.519 There was a great authenticity to what they were doing as well. They believed 196 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.839 in it, they had faith that they could do it, and they had 197 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:40.640 the courage to follow it through. And we need all three of those today 198 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.319 to rediscover the Fourth of July in this country. I believe we do. 199 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:48.440 We do. You know what I say in the article is that you know 200 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:55.559 everyone can relate to the nightmare of their house burning down, you know, 201 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:59.160 catching on fire, and it prompts immediate response. You drop everything and you 202 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.480 go to save your life. Ones. Well, America has been set on 203 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:07.839 fire to destroy our freedom, and it's time that everyone gets involved to save 204 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:12.000 our home and our freedom. So let's make this Fourth of July celebration a 205 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:18.599 founding of our founding ideals, but also a time of renewed commitment to engage 206 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.839 and wake up everyone that we know we're all in the position of Paul Revere 207 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:26.559 now, and it's time to resist the creeping tyranny and the political corruption and 208 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:32.119 reclaim sovereignty over our precious possession. And this is a precious position of our 209 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:37.519 freedom and rights. And just as Washington succeeded against impossible odds by persistence, 210 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:42.119 faith, courage, we too will prevail. Scott Powell, thank you so 211 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:45.119 much, God bless you and the happy fourth of July. This week, 212 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.640 Happy fourth of July to you, Gary, Jeff Verse On a reds Off 213 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:56.880 Night with my old tech buddy, the nerd, the self acclaimed nerd that 214 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:02.200 is the mad Hatter, And I still think I coined that term. And 215 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:04.759 when I say mad, I don't mean he's angry. Necessary well, he's 216 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:11.200 angry about stuff that we probably can't talk about. But he's kind of crazy, 217 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:15.440 some people say. Even he says he's a tenfoil hat guy from time 218 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:17.839 to time. The one and only Dave Hatter. How are you doing, 219 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.920 Dave? I'm doing great here, Jeff as always, thanks for having me 220 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:25.200 on. How are you? You know? I'm pretty good. And it's 221 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:26.799 nice to have a little bit of work in the middle of the summer because 222 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:30.880 I don't get as much opportunity to talk to people like you, and I 223 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:36.680 enjoy that as I do during the Reds off season. The Red's taking a 224 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:41.640 little break here, and chances are they needed, and so do I so 225 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:47.920 first and foremost, And I actually saw you talking with Bob Herzog earlier today 226 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:52.839 on Local twelve. Shameless plug for somebody that I don't need to get plugs 227 00:19:52.839 --> 00:20:00.319 to. Over ninety thousand LG smart TVs may be exposed to remote a Now 228 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:07.039 this is necessarily an attack on your your privacy is it or is this something 229 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.960 really to be worried about, Dave, Well, it is, Gary, 230 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.680 Jeff. And here's why. Now, if you don't have an LGTV, 231 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:18.160 there still potentially applies to you because it really speaks to something you and I 232 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:21.880 have talked about over the years. Unless your mind has changed recently, I 233 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.680 think you're still in the same camp as me that most of these so called 234 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.559 smart devices, internet of things devices, TVs, storbells, fermostats, refrigerators, 235 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.880 washers, cars, et cetera. Toilets are yeah, toilets, yeah, 236 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:40.640 good god, who in the world would need that? These things are 237 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:45.240 privacy and security dumpster fives. You know, their whole business incentive is generally, 238 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.839 how can I rush a market or product and market and be first and 239 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.519 capture as much market share as possible with a little thought given to your privacy 240 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.279 and security. And I mean you can go online and just search and find 241 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.960 example after example after example of these things being privacy and security dumpster fires. 242 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.920 And even when they're not cases where the companies that make these things then have 243 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:10.000 employees that you know, tack them to like spy on you because you're an 244 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:14.599 attractive woman. You know, there's ample evidence out there where once they put 245 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.839 cameras in roomors the room, but rolls into the bathroom when someone's on the 246 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:21.119 toilet, and then somehow that person is on the Internet on the toilet. 247 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:22.279 I mean again, you don't have to take my word for it. This 248 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.599 is all easily documented. So how that connects back to this? You have 249 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.720 a smart TV? Now, let's face scary, Jeff, it's really difficult 250 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:34.039 to buy a TV it's not a smart TV. And that's increasingly the case 251 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:38.039 with so many devices. Even when it doesn't make sense. Why does your 252 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:41.640 coffee maker need to talk to the internet. Okay, so it can send 253 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.839 you a text tell your coffee's done. Well, you can smell it right, 254 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.480 So you know, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should 255 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.400 do something. And that's my perspective all these I'm not saying that some future 256 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:56.559 point, when these companies get serious about privacy and security, some of these 257 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:00.720 devices might make more sense, but so many of them make no sense now 258 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:06.359 because for whatever minuscule convenience you get out of it, you're exposing yourself to 259 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:11.039 a lot of potential risks. So in this case with the LGTVS, researchers 260 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:14.880 found back in November last year, there was four different vulnerabilities in some of 261 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.640 the software inside of these TVs, And it's always about the software that powers 262 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.319 these things, right, And they didn't put out a six until March of 263 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.319 this year, so they started raising the alarm about this. There's a search 264 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:32.319 engine called showdown. We may have talked about this before. It's specifically designed 265 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:36.359 to find Internet of Things connected devices. So doing a search, they found 266 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:40.839 ninety one thousand is ish of these TVs connected to the Internet that have these 267 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:45.079 laws, which means hackers could potentially attack the TV take over the TV. 268 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.519 Now people say, well, so what, Well, okay, if it's 269 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.240 on the same network as your other device, devices you're using for work, 270 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:56.599 devices you're using to bank, et cetera. It is entirely within the realm 271 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.240 of possibility that once I have control of that TV, I might be able 272 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.720 to then get to your other devices, at which point I could steal your 273 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.079 data, steal your money, or whatever other nefarious purpose I have. So 274 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:12.119 it's while it may farfetch to people, it's a legitimate and concern. Well, 275 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:17.200 it's it's like I've used this reference before with you. It's been a 276 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:21.720 while, so I'll bring it back. It's like the movie The Lost Boys 277 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.599 at the end where the guy says. The guy says, you know, 278 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:32.480 once you let a vampire cross your domicile, you have no power. So 279 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:37.599 why let these evil forces from the outside into your house at all? Whether 280 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.240 it's a smart TV, a smart coffee pot, or a smart toilet. 281 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:51.839 There's just no reason that a reasonable person would would allow this, And it's 282 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:56.200 better better out and in. You are setting yourself up for trouble, especially 283 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:59.920 if you don't understand how to can't figure it correctly out of the box, 284 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.079 A change the default password, and then understand that you have to update the 285 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.880 software inside these things, you know, whether it's to fix bugs, or 286 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.559 to fix vulnerabilities, or some combination of all of the empulve. The manufacturers 287 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.640 hopefully are putting out software updates, which is a separate problem. A recent 288 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.240 study show that, especially for smart TVs, in many cases, after two 289 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.480 years, there's no more software updates coming. So when these kind of vulnerabilities 290 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.400 are found, well, you're to saddle up. You got to buy a 291 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:27.799 new device. But do people even understand that, so, you know, 292 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:33.319 installing the updates it is critical if you have an LGTV and this I'm going 293 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.960 to say two last things on this. Hey, Ideally, if you buy 294 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:41.519 a so called smart device, in addition to changing the default password and other 295 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.039 configuration settings for that device to secure it, if it has the capability, 296 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.680 you should set it up to automatically update itself so it's checking on its own 297 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.680 things like your Internet router right checking on its own and getting updates. But 298 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:57.240 in the case of these lgtvs, my advice would be go into the settings, 299 00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:00.640 hit the button, demand really update the software in it, and then 300 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:04.200 once that's done, do a physical boot on the thing, unplug it, 301 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.960 plug it back in, and then make sure it's set up to get the 302 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.240 automatic updates. And I mean that's generally good advice for all of these things. 303 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:12.839 They should be rebooted once in a while, and you got to make 304 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:18.440 sure you're getting the software updates. Otherwise you are literally just asking to get 305 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:23.160 hacked. So here's another story that just caught my eye. And I don't 306 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:29.000 even know the first thing about this well because I'm a functional idiot anyway, 307 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:37.359 but the headline on this story is world's first bioprocessor uses sixteen human brain organoids. 308 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:44.359 Whatever the organoids are for a million times less power consumption than a digital 309 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.119 chip. You know, one of the great hurdles that we've been talking about 310 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:53.400 with AI and all this other digital technology is that we're going to need a 311 00:25:53.440 --> 00:26:00.039 lot more power generated to you know, to actually have all of these things 312 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:07.359 functioning and build them. Is this is this a path where maybe we don't 313 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.640 need to come up with all this extra electric power for the ship technology? 314 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.640 It looks that way if it can scale. Dary Jess. Now, first 315 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.160 off, I don't know if you've noticed recently, but a lot of the 316 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:26.559 artificial intelligence experts out there who are making hyperbolic predictions, both in terms of 317 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.640 we're going to be in a utopia or a dystopia, a lot of the 318 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.839 must have started to come off of this stuff because many experts are now saying 319 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:38.079 that the large language models that you see driving things like chat GPT are never 320 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:44.480 going to be sinny and self aware, super intelligent type artificial intelligence like you 321 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.359 see in the movies. Yeah, and then even in that context, they're 322 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.200 saying a lot of these large language models don't seem to be improving, they 323 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.839 seemed to have capped out. And even though this is FCC non compliant, 324 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:57.480 and I won't say the world the word out loud. I will send you 325 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:02.359 this article and I encourage people to look this up. I agree with this 326 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.200 guy's take on it, and it is one of the funniest things I've ever 327 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.759 read. I mean, I rarely laugh out loud reading text, especially anything 328 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.680 related to technology, but this thing had me laughing several times. It's an 329 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:17.359 article that's called I will e fing pile drive you if you mentioned AI again. 330 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.319 And the guy that the guy that wrote it is a data scientist, 331 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.519 and I got to tell you it is very, very funny, and I 332 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:30.039 think pretty much right on the money. So your question about the electricity is 333 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.839 right on the dot. You know, they've been warning about how much electricity 334 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.720 it's going to take, and they mentioned in this article about this bioprocessor they've 335 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.680 created. And you'll see why I went down to LLM path there from a 336 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.559 minute they say Final Spark the company or final Backer if I'm pronouncing it right, 337 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:52.680 claims training a single large language model like JATGPT three required approximately ten gigawatt 338 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.920 hours, about six thousand times the energy consumption that an average European citizen uses 339 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:02.000 in a whole year. Wow. So then this article basically goes on to 340 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:06.640 say that they've essentially grown something in a lab that's based on you know, 341 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:10.799 biological material. I don't think it's like a human cell in a traditional sense, 342 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.680 but it's not entirely clear to me how they're doing this. But they 343 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.880 basically say the main innovation delivered by the neuroplatform is the use of four multi 344 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:23.720 electrode arrays housing living tissue organoids, which are three D cells three D cell 345 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:27.359 masses of brain tissues. So you have sixteen of these things. But the 346 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.240 big problem with this, despite the fact that apparently they can be trained and 347 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:37.960 learned and operate in some basic artificial intelligence type ways, and you know, 348 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.599 they use a lot less power, they don't last very long. According to 349 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:45.000 this article, these things will basically expire in about one hundred days. So 350 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.279 it's certainly an interesting approach. It's different than what we've seen so far on 351 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:55.920 AI from other companies, so I think it bears watching, especially when you 352 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.920 think about things. I think we talked about this before, Gary Jefflake, 353 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.200 Elon Musk, Neuralink, and other companies out there who are making these devices 354 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.880 that you know, essentially can interface with a human brain, which I just 355 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:12.519 see nothing but problems from that. But what do I know. I just 356 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:19.480 love the human brain organoids. It all just sounds just too wild to even, 357 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.000 like I said, comprehend on my part. I'll tell you what, 358 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:26.480 Dave, if you can, let's take a real quick break and come back. 359 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:32.920 Is that all right? All right? Dave had her with us on 360 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:40.240 this July first nightcap more tech talk around the corner on seven hundred WLW TVs 361 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:47.240 and human brain organoids whatever they are, and now a real story and not 362 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:52.640 that those weren't. A United States Center wants to put the brakes on Chinese 363 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.839 evs. I'm all for it. Tell me more about it, Dave Hadter. 364 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.640 Yeah, So I want to encourage people to go out and check out 365 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.000 Mozilla. The people that make the Firefox browser have a fight called Privacy Not 366 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.839 Included. And while it's not exclusively focused on the Internet of Things or so 367 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.960 called smart devices, they do cover that a lot. And the whole idea 368 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:19.599 beside is it helps you as a consumer make better choices before you buy a 369 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.240 product or download an app or whatever. Is it privacy friendly or not. 370 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.920 And I would just suggest to you that if something is not very privacy friendly. 371 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.880 It probably also was not very security friendly either. You know, they're 372 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.839 not exactly the same thing, but they're usually interconnected, a situation that if 373 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.279 if you have a significant flaw in one, you probably will in the other. 374 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.160 And they did a big expose a late last year. I've mentioned this 375 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:47.920 numerous times in these kind of interviews about how modern cars are basically rolling surveillance 376 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.359 tools. You may have seen the story where, you know, the guy 377 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.119 was reported to his insurance company by his new car and they raised his rates 378 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.160 because they didn't like the way he was driving, even though this wasn't a 379 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.240 city scenario like where he went to All State and said, hey, give 380 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.039 me that thing, I plug into the car and you monitor my driving. 381 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.440 The car just basically dropped the dime on it. So they talk about that 382 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.240 a lot, which now gets us to this Chinese viase. So you know, 383 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.799 the Chinese time in this party, and Chinese companies have been building electric 384 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.799 vehicles. You know, they want to flood the market here, which is 385 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:22.000 its own separate problem. But when you understand the capability of these new vehicles 386 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.480 and the fact that they are not only collecting enormous amounts of information that that's 387 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.559 you as a driver. But because they have all kinds of external basing sensors, 388 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.160 they're also basically rolling surveillance tools. I mean, think about it. 389 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:38.720 Can you imagine during World War Two that we would have allowed a German company 390 00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:42.880 to put cars on the street that could actually surveil the environment they were in 391 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.000 and whether it's listening or video or whatever. I mean, can you just 392 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:48.880 imagine that for a second. But that's where we are with these things. 393 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.119 And you know, again this isn't some Dave hatter keinfo hack conspiracy theory. 394 00:31:53.440 --> 00:32:00.400 You've got Senator cher Brown from Ohio warning about this in a letter present Biden, 395 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.200 and he's one of many people, by the way, raising this concern 396 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:08.160 that you know, you have our primary adversary in the world building devices that 397 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:13.319 have all kinds of surveillance capabilities, both for the driver, the occupants, 398 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.799 and the external environment they're in. There's a well documented case, Gary Jeff 399 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:22.079 where Russians were hacking web cameras in the Ukraine and then using them for targeting 400 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:27.400 purposes for attacks. Imagine if you had hundreds of thousands or millions of these 401 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.720 cars running around the country, the kind of information that they can collect, 402 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:37.480 not to mention probably the most serious problem what happens when the Chinese government decides 403 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:42.160 today is the day we've seen the FBI and every three letter government agency warn 404 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:46.839 about critical infrastructure and China in particular in it and the possibility of launching attacks. 405 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:51.359 Imagine if they made every one of these cars a weapon. Imagine a 406 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.799 six thousand pound car full of all kinds of hideous chemicals because of the batteries 407 00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:00.440 just suddenly start to accelerate until it runs into something. Or what if they 408 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.759 targeted chemical plants. What if they targeted water plants? You know, imagine 409 00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.519 a nine thousand pound car just barreling into a water plant or a chemical plant 410 00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.920 where they make chlorine. I know this sounds crazy to people, but I'm 411 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:17.279 not the only person that's making these cleantions. So yes, I think at 412 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.880 a minimum there should be like a thousand percent tariff on these things, and 413 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.160 in my opinion, they should just be outright banded. It should not be 414 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:29.279 a thing because of the surveillance of the weaponization possibility of these things. I 415 00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.119 can tell you I don't care if they paid me, I would not take 416 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:36.200 one of these vehicles. Well, I'm not a big fan of evs in 417 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:43.039 general, Dave, and secondarily secondarily made in communist China. Not no, 418 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.599 but hell no. And it's nice to see a couple of takeaways on my 419 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:51.119 part. Nice to see Shared Brown doing something that I'm in favor of, 420 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.079 number one, because it usually doesn't happen. And number two, it kind 421 00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:59.160 of ties into this next thing I was going to ask you about that we 422 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:07.400 have talked about before, and it's about our water systems and the possibilities and 423 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:13.960 we've already seen it in practice where water systems in certain places have been hacked 424 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.280 and there's a release of chemicals that could poison entire population if it hadn't been 425 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:23.159 caught. The EPA, which again is an agency I don't agree with most 426 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:29.480 of the time, but the EPA firing up the warning shot here that most 427 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:34.639 water systems in our country do not meet compliance requirements. Can you enlighten us 428 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.079 on this a little bit, because that's just scary as hell to me. 429 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.199 I totally agree with you, and for anyone that knows me, they know 430 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:46.239 I've been concerned about critical infrastructure for a long time. So the FBI has 431 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:52.519 sixteen different categories that they call critical infrastructure. It could be things like logistics, 432 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.000 right, I mean, I think you know, Gary, Jeff, 433 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.599 there's a relatively small supply of food, for example, in the supply chain. 434 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.400 You saw some of this with the COVID pandemic that first started. And 435 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.119 you know, if you could knock out a substantial swath of logistics oriented companies, 436 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.039 trucking companies, cargo ships, that sort of thing, you could potentially, 437 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:16.960 you know, significantly disrupt daily life in the United States. It's manufacturing 438 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:21.920 plants that make, you know, specific types of equipment. It's chemical plants. 439 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.440 You know, I'm old enough to remember very well when I if I 440 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:30.280 recall correctly, four thousand people were killed in India in Bopol, India when 441 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.840 a Dow chemical plant, Yeah, least chlorine gas. I remember. You 442 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:37.960 know, if you could hack a plant that made chlorine gas and release it, 443 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.519 or wreck a train that happened to have a bunch of cars full of 444 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:45.880 chlorine or some other type of dangerous chemical like East Palestine for example. Now 445 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:47.599 I'm not saying that was hacking. I'm just saying, you know, we 446 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:53.880 see real world incidents of mistakes and things that cause catastrophes. Imagine, if 447 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:59.639 you will, for a second, that Chinese hackers sponsored by the Chinese Communist 448 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:04.000 Party in the military. FBI Director Ray has said, now I'm going from 449 00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.199 memory here, but I believe he said he thinks they have like a five 450 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:08.440 hundred to one advantage in terms of it might be fifty to one. I 451 00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.599 might have my scale off, but a substantial advantage in the number of people 452 00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:17.119 they have focused on hacking the United States. He and other three letter agencies 453 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:22.119 have warned extensively about concerns around critical infrastructure and the fact that they're already in 454 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.559 it and waiting for the right time. So, you know, the EPA 455 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.920 getting on board with this water plant thing, I think is critical because let's 456 00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.320 face it, short of air, water is the most important resource. You 457 00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:36.599 can't live very long without water, and if you can shut it off, 458 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.039 that's a problem. Or and we've seen this. There have been numerous water 459 00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:44.159 plants hacked. The Oldtimar water plant in Florida is the main one that comes 460 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.159 up when you search for this. They were able to, due to some 461 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:52.159 legacy technology and some band security practices, able to change the amount of chemicals 462 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.199 going into the water. Now, fortunately it was caught. The forty damage 463 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:59.679 was done. But you know, we've seen numerous examples of water plants being 464 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.760 hacked. Again, Okay, if I shut off your electricity, that's the 465 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.960 problem, and it will eventually become a huge problem because you need electricity to 466 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.800 turn the pumps to make the water. Right, you know, all this 467 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:14.440 stuff is interconnected. Again, FBI says sixteen critical infrastructure categories we as a 468 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.679 country have absolutely I just I'll sind it. I just actually wrote an op 469 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.239 ed on this about how China is our fundamental adversary in the world, and 470 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.639 you know, they're known for this sort of thing, and it's long past 471 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.639 time to get serious about the fact that we have to make the investments to 472 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.639 descend this infrastructure because it's not just oh it's convenient. It's inconvenient for me 473 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.280 that my powers off. It's my powers off. I can't work. Our 474 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.840 whole economy shut down. There's no way to momp to pump the water. 475 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:47.239 I mean, you know, we're talking about well passed inconvenience here, life 476 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.760 threatening situations. If you could, you know, put a significant dent into 477 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:55.920 this critical infrastructure. So I'm I'm very happy to see the alerts being raised 478 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.320 and trying to get people to take this seriously. It's well passed high to 479 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.039 make these investments. Well, yeah, you talked about the supply chain and 480 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:08.599 the food chain and referencing COVID. I remember, of course the great toilet 481 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:14.039 paper shortage of twenty twenty, and of course if you don't have any food, 482 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.360 you probably don't need as much toilet paper. I'm just saying that is 483 00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:22.360 true. That is true, and real quickly here to tag out with Dave 484 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:29.599 Hatter. There are more and more secrecy concerns that are mounting over spies that 485 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.679 are targeting US data centers, and you hear a story about it almost every 486 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.039 other week, Dave, Well, Garrett, Jeff. In my mind, 487 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.239 this is a two pronged story. You have the concerns that you know. 488 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:45.039 In many cases and for many businesses, cloud based computing is a big win. 489 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:51.280 It reduces complexity of your environment, It reduces total cost to ownership. 490 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:55.360 It makes things easier and potentially more secure if you're working with a reputable vendor 491 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:59.920 like Microsoft that has all the right tools available and you avail yourself up. 492 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.000 A lot of these cloud breaches happen not because it's Google's fault or Amazon's fault 493 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.239 or Microsoft fault. It's because people did not configure things correctly, they did 494 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:12.400 not take advantage of all the capabilities, or they didn't turn something on that 495 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.599 they should have or something. But all of that said, as you put 496 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.039 more and more of your data in the cloud, you again coming back to 497 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:23.440 my two prong comment, you have concerns about the US government right violating the 498 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:29.920 Fourth Amendment and working around on the Fourth Amendment to get to your data, 499 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:34.360 both as an individual and as an organization. And then secondarily, you know, 500 00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.320 it is it better for the Chinese Communist Party to attempt to hack some 501 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.719 small company? Now maybe it is, depending on what they want to get, 502 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.920 some military secret or trade secret. You know, why invest billions of 503 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:51.400 dollars to build something when you can just steal some of American companies intellectual property? 504 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.199 Right, and that's the huge part of what they've been doing for a 505 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:57.880 long time. But if you could, for example, break into a large 506 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.079 cloud provider and steal all of the information, well, of course, you 507 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:05.880 know it's a giant honeypot. So yeah, and you know we've seen examples 508 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.239 again going back to China, where if they want something bad enough, they'll 509 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:15.840 eventually either bribe someone internally, so you have an insider bread situation or they'll 510 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.960 you know, basically work with someone to get them hired knowing they're planning them 511 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.639 inside there to steal trade secrets or military secrets or whatever it is there after 512 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:28.639 again and you know, again this is Dave Hatter's opinion exclusively. You have 513 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.239 people like the FBI director and the National Security Director and others who've been worried 514 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.880 about this sort of thing as well for a long time. Yeah, it's 515 00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:39.719 a big problem. Thank you so much again for your time, my friend, 516 00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:44.199 and we'll talk soon. Okay, always my pleasure, Gary Jeff, 517 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:50.400 Thanks to have a true patriot on there. No matter what your definition of 518 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:55.159 the true patriot is, I believe this guy often qualified to the truth patru 519 00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:00.199 of He happens to be a Republican US Senate candidate in Virginia. He wasn't 520 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:06.199 primary or based off against the incumbent Tim Kaine in November. He has a 521 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:10.719 brand new book called Call Me An American, and we definitely are calling him 522 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.280 that and more. Hung Cow, welcome to the show. How are you. 523 00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:20.400 I'm doing great? Thank you so much for having me on your show. 524 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.400 You just had a fantastic rally this past weekend. Tell me about that. 525 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.199 Oh, President Trump came to Chesapeake, Virginia and they invited me to 526 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.119 speak on there, and then when he landed, he wanted me back on 527 00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.320 stage with him, and it was just funny. Hey, he's just a 528 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.320 very very funny man. And he shook my hand and he's like shaking his 529 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.239 hand. Afterwards he's like, oh my gosh, I think he broke my 530 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:44.320 hand. You got to watch out. He's got a really strong grip there. 531 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.760 But you know, he's just he's just got that how going. All 532 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.840 right? Call me an American is the book. We're going to talk about 533 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:57.199 that obviously here in a few minutes. Hung but let's talk first about how 534 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.679 you got to this point here. And when I say you're a true patriot, 535 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:07.559 the original American colonist and the founding fathers braved a lot of bloody hardships 536 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:15.320 and battles to forge this country. They came from somewhere else and settled here, 537 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.519 many of them, and then the next generations were born on this continent. 538 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:25.559 But you know, coming to basically an untamed wilderness and harsh winners they'd 539 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.519 never faced before, and finally being on their own and then they fought to 540 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:36.239 be really on their own. As we celebrate our independence this week. You 541 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.239 came from a different place, but I think your story is very very much 542 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:47.039 the same. It's very similar of those original Americans in the fact that you 543 00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:52.840 were a refugee from Vietnam. What do you remember about those days? Huh 544 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:57.039 oh, thank you. This is the American story, right, I mean, 545 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.920 it's all of our stories. So teen seventy five, you know, 546 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:06.159 the brand new centator named Joe Biden signed, you know, push a bill 547 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:10.159 to no longer fund any support South Vietnam. So the whole country fell apart. 548 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.760 And so we left there in the middle of night, and and just 549 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:16.519 you know, made it our way to United States, not knowing what the 550 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:22.920 future would hold. I moved to West Africa because that's where my dad could 551 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.280 find work. After we moved to the United States, and then at the 552 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:29.280 age of twelve, my parents brought me back here because you know, I 553 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:34.280 didn't speaking the English. I went to French schools and spoke Vietnamese at home. 554 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.280 So my dad remained in Africa for a few more years working and we'd 555 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.360 see him every six months. But that's what sacrifice is. And I grabbed 556 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.159 down to the American dream. I went to the top high school in the 557 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.320 United States, a brand new high school called Thomas Jefferson High School for Sci 558 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:50.960 Technology. I went to United States Naval Academy, earning a bachelor's in engineering. 559 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.559 I went to Naval Postgraduate School where I earned a master's in physics, 560 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.880 and I had fellowships at Harvard MIT. But you know what, I paid 561 00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.719 back every dime of that American dre with twenty five years of service in Navy 562 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.719 Special Operations. I was Navy DC diver the recovered John F. Kenney Junior, 563 00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.920 his wife of the sister in law, and I was a bomb disposal 564 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:15.159 technician that you know, defuse bombs for are still teams and our Special Force 565 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.039 team in Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia. Wow, I mean right there. 566 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.159 You could stop right there and do nothing else, and I would be sitting 567 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:29.920 here slack jawed in amazement and wouldn't have words to say thank you. But 568 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.079 okay, thank you for everything that you just detailed that you have done for 569 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:42.800 our country. But then you decided that there was more that you could do 570 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.159 for your country, especially at such a pivotal time. You know, your 571 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:52.599 family fled communism, and I can't believe there is such a push to bring 572 00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:57.599 it to the United States and to make it or you know, communism, 573 00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.800 Marxism, whatever you want to call it. That is so anti American. 574 00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:07.800 You and your family tasted what that's like and said, this is not for 575 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:14.239 us. The entire communism has failed everywhere it's ever been tried. And I 576 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.960 don't know why there's such a push by some people in this country to drive 577 00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:24.000 us to a full on communist state. Huh can you explain that? No? 578 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.840 No, I can't. I mean, it's not a fad like what 579 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.760 Comrade Bernie and AOC and all these people are trying to push like they didn't 580 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.920 invent this. This has been around for over one hundred years and it's destroyed 581 00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.960 every country it's touched, and they're turning this into what I ran away from. 582 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:44.079 And you know, I left Afghanistan in twenty twenty one and January twenty 583 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.280 twenty one and watching the country fall apart there, that's why I was like, 584 00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.760 you know what, I need to retire. But then watching the enemy 585 00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:54.079 come in from the inside, destroying everything we believe in, I just couldn't 586 00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.280 sit and sit back and just let it happen. So I ran for Congress 587 00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:00.599 actually in twenty two, and uh, you know, I won a very 588 00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:07.480 heavy uh heavly uh you know, uh heavy uh what's called the primary with 589 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:13.320 eleven people. And I went against this lady that they she just kept calling 590 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.639 called me everything from an extremist to a threat to democracy. I mean these 591 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.840 people were just thanking me for my service six months before, right, and 592 00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.079 she called me all sorts of you know, all sorts of names. And 593 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.639 I said, you know what, I earned the right to be called American. 594 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.800 You need he called me an American. So the name of my book 595 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.320 is actually in a front to her, you know, kind of like a 596 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.639 big you know, flipping the bird in her face because saying, hey, 597 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.960 call me an American because I fought for this right. But again, I'm 598 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.519 going to keep fighting from the American people. So we didn't win in twenty 599 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.760 two, but we moved that needle thirteen percent in a you know, in 600 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.880 a very blue district that includes Louden County where they're attacking the parents, right 601 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:52.880 the school board was, and we moved that needle from Biden plus nineteen down 602 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.679 to six points. And that's why we ran for They asked me to run 603 00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:59.679 for US Senate, And here I am the nominee for the US Senate in 604 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.559 virgin and I'm going to take on Timkin, you know, the Hillary Clinton's 605 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.559 running mate. So I mean, what, obviously you're you're very positive and 606 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.920 you believe you can win, and I hope you can win because the balance 607 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.800 of power in the Senate and the House of Representatives definitely needs to be out 608 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:23.880 of the Marxist hans Uh and the squad and all of that. But what 609 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:27.800 are things looking like? What are the polls saying, and how's your fundraising 610 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:32.159 going so far? Oh, the polls are basically President Trump and President Di 611 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:37.639 Biden are neck and neck in Virginia. I mean, this is where President 612 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.639 Trump won the loss by ten points in twenty twenty, and he's already neck 613 00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:46.039 and neck, if not above to a Biden. And if you go back 614 00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.719 to Tim Keane, I mean this guy talk about Marxist socialists. I mean 615 00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:57.480 he spent his u some time after college or between college down in Honduras. 616 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.360 You know, I mean I think he got you know, he got completely 617 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:04.840 brainwashed by all the socialists down there, and he truly believes in all this 618 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.519 stuff, and no one can remember what this guy's done for Virginia. I 619 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.840 mean he's you know, the only thing they can remember. He got stuck 620 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.639 on I ninety five with a bottle of doctor pepper during a snoop storm. 621 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:19.199 That's it. Well, what a legacy. Yeah, and being part, 622 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.599 of course of a losing presidential campaign in twenty sixteen. I want to get 623 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:30.239 to Zach. You're talking about Louden County and you're talking about Virginia, and 624 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.800 in fact, I'm moving close to a break here and we're going to come 625 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:38.400 back if you'll allow me some extra time with you to talk about that particular 626 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:45.719 region in the country and why a victory not only for you but for President 627 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.840 Trump would be so as the President likes to say, as forty five says, 628 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:55.079 huge, it would be. It would be huge. Virginia would be 629 00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:59.880 huge. It's a beautiful, beautiful state. It would be huge if you 630 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.440 guys could claim victories, both of you in the Senate and the presidential campaigns. 631 00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.559 More with hung Cow in just a moment, as we continue Independence Day 632 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:16.559 Week, we are talking to Hung Cow, US Senate campaign candidate from Virginia 633 00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:21.159 going to face off against Tim Kaine and the Fall, and the author of 634 00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:25.280 the new book Call Me An American, detailing his an amazing story of being 635 00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:31.800 a South Vietnamese refugee fleeing communism and the fall of Vietnam in nineteen seventy five 636 00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:37.199 with his family coming to the United States, learning English, becoming a Navy 637 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:44.559 captain, and now a Senate campaign candidate, along with being the author of 638 00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:50.679 Call Me An American. Hung We were talking before about the rally over the 639 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:55.880 last weekend with President Trump and Virginia, and describe for me again what that 640 00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:00.800 energy was like what you told somebody else. Okay, well, not that 641 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:05.519 ever tried this, but it's like eating a whole pack of Pixi sticks and 642 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.719 then chasing with four monster drinks. That's what the energy was like. You 643 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.679 see it on TV and do you even get the wits and breadth of it? 644 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.440 And they on TV or I guess being there is everything. Yeah, 645 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.559 being there is everything. Because these people were out there from eight o'clock in 646 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:28.960 the morning and President didn't start speaking until four and they're out there in the 647 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.840 hot, blazing sun and it was you know, typical of Virginia summer where 648 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.480 it's muggy and humid, but they they were out there and they're chanting, 649 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.840 and they're strong, and they're they're excited, and that's what we need to 650 00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:45.719 win Virginia and also the whole presidential race this year. People were excited across 651 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.679 the nation because they're sick and tired of being being taxed to death, and 652 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.519 they're sick and tired of being told what to do. I mean, government's 653 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.039 there to you know, do what we tell them to do, not the 654 00:50:55.079 --> 00:51:00.760 other way. Aroun Yeah, oh exactly. Getting back to Louden County, 655 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.639 Virginia and Virginia, I know it would be huge if President Trump and you 656 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:13.519 could both win those races in November. What makes Virginia obviously so difficult and 657 00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.199 has made it so blue in certain parts of that state, that commonwealth, 658 00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:23.199 is the fact that you know, they've got to protect official Washington, DC, 659 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.719 because so many people work and live for the federal government in that part 660 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:32.079 of the country. They don't want their goodies to be taken away. They 661 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:37.599 don't want their jobs to be threatened by somebody who was in favor of deregulation 662 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:43.159 and less taxation and shrinking, hopefully one day, shrinking the size of our 663 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.679 government where we're not spending two hundred and thirty six percent of the GDP on 664 00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:51.360 our debt. I mean, that is really the tough hurdle in Virginia, 665 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.719 isn't it. It is? But we don't have to win northern Virginia. 666 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.960 I didn't need to move it the way I did in twenty twenty two, 667 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.639 where I moved to thirteen and the south comes out. And when I see 668 00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:06.239 the south, it's not very far south. I'm talking about Rappahanno County, 669 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.599 Fakier County, and then Prince William County on down, so that's still very 670 00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:14.840 north. But all those counties down there, they're excited. They're excited to 671 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.440 see, you know, change in the government. They're excited to see people 672 00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.360 that are going to fight for them. And that's why we know we're going 673 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.079 to win Virginia. I mean, we win Virginia, that's thirteen electoral votes 674 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:31.519 and that basically decides the whole presidential race altogether. Tell me a little bit 675 00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:37.119 more about the book. Any particular story come to mind that you could mention 676 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:42.239 without giving things away, Because we want to get people fired up about Call 677 00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:47.039 me in America. Tell me a story or two from the book that will 678 00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:52.599 pique people's interests. Well. First of all, the meritocracy is a big 679 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.599 thing, right, I mean in America, it's always one of those things 680 00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:58.840 that pays be a winner. I mean that's what they teach you at high 681 00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:00.320 school, at buds and everything else. If you finish first and then you 682 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:06.679 get to relax while everybody else catches up. Well. Likewise with meritocracy. 683 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:08.440 You know, I went to the top high school in the country. For 684 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:13.119 decades, it was number one, but then the left changed the whole entrance 685 00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.079 requirement so that it could be more equitable, and so the school dropped to 686 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:21.400 now one, to number five, and then very recently dropped at fourteen in 687 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.639 the country. But meritocracy, I know. I learned meritocracy in the French 688 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.239 schools because they hand you out the report cards and order of merit. So 689 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.199 you line up and the teacher calls out, you know, by number one, 690 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:36.679 first person to the highest grade, and then all the way down to 691 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.800 the last person, and then you sit based on the order of merit. 692 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.360 So top right is the always the number one, and then it goes all 693 00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:47.599 the way down. But I always noticed that the pretty French girls were always 694 00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.639 the top of their class. So it gave me incentive to work as hard 695 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.400 as I can to get up there with them instead of being back with these 696 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:59.719 smelly French boys. Well, plus, you want to hang with the pretty 697 00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:06.800 friends girls, don't you Exactly? So that's that's that's how I learned meritocracy. 698 00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:08.199 I'm like, wow, it does pay to be a winner. Yeah, 699 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.679 yeah, no doubt about it. So all of this nonsense that we've 700 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:20.000 has been pervading almost every element of society, especially during the Biden administration, 701 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:25.840 this concentration on DEI and UH diversity equity. People get confused. They think 702 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:35.000 equity means equality and it's actually the opposite of equality. But UH DEI seems 703 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:40.559 to be fading as far as public favor and as far as the fad that 704 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:45.280 it it has been. Do you feel like we're going away from this? 705 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:49.559 You know, you've got to have you've got to be a certain have a 706 00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.880 certain characteristic to get a job in Washington, d C. Or be a 707 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:57.320 part of the administration. You know, we we don't have a trans Portuguese 708 00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:02.320 woman uh in this department or that department, or this cabinet or that cabinet. 709 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:07.159 And Biden are going full steam ahead with this, but it's it's starting 710 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.519 to lose its luster in the corporate world. And I'm thankful. I'm grateful 711 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:15.639 to see that. Do you see that also, Yes, in the corporate 712 00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:17.880 world, yes, But then it's the government still doing it. And look, 713 00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.639 everybody believes in diversity, and it's diversity of background. It's not of 714 00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:25.440 color of your skin. It's the diversity of background. You know, me 715 00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:30.239 growing up in Africa and growing up in the United States and going to all 716 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:35.440 the schools I did. That's the diversity you need. And then the inclusion. 717 00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:39.079 Of course, we want everybody to be included. But the equity part 718 00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:43.119 is what I hate the most because it sounds, like you said, like 719 00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:45.440 equality, but it's not the same. It means that everybody finished this safe. 720 00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:47.920 Now. You can look at me. I'm five ft six, you 721 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:52.199 know, Asian guy. I'm not going to play in the NFL or the 722 00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.840 NBA. It's just not what it's there for. Now. You throw some 723 00:55:54.920 --> 00:56:00.039 math problems at me. I'm winning that every day. But it's just to 724 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.679 say that we're all going to be the same at the end. I mean, 725 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.280 that's just another word for communism and socialism and Martianism. It doesn't work 726 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:12.639 that way. No, And that's exactly what I'm talking about. And you're 727 00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:20.639 stressing just from your life and knowing how important meritocracy is to not only getting 728 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:24.440 ahead and being first, but also to have a fulfilled life. I mean, 729 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:31.159 exceptionalism is what truly brought this country to a great place in the world. 730 00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:36.960 And it seems like there are forces trying to tell us that we're not 731 00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.960 exceptional anymore, and we don't have to be exceptional. And it's just a 732 00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.360 bunch of junk. It's a bunch of Unamerican junk. No. Yeah, 733 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:49.760 so you're right. I mean, who wants to live in the worst country 734 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.440 world or the second worst country, yeah, or even the second best country. 735 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.519 We want to live in the best country in the world. And look, 736 00:56:55.559 --> 00:57:00.760 there's a reason why China and Russia do not have an immigration because no 737 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.800 one wants to go there because it sucks. You know, everybody wants to 738 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:07.400 come to the United States. Oh, any any parting words for as hung 739 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:13.440 Cow as we go? Do you have a campaign website you want to mention 740 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.760 or anything like that. Yes, please, it's gov to hung for Va 741 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.760 dot com. That's h U n g f O r VA dot com. 742 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.039 Your your listeners may not be able to vote for me, but I can 743 00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:25.840 vote for them, right My vote in the Senate will stop a lot of 744 00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:30.519 this idiocy. You know, I'm reading right now that they buy the administration's 745 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:36.320 flying people back in that the Trump administration deported I mean, I've heard of 746 00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.920 catching a release, but this is ridiculous, and it's just one of those 747 00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:43.199 things where I will fight for you every day. If you're an American, 748 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.400 I'm gonna fight for you because the only person better off the day than they 749 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.559 were four years ago is an illegal alien. And we've got to stop this. 750 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:54.280 Well, you you came as a refugee, and immigration in twenty twenty 751 00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:59.079 four is not the same. It's not the same thing. And people who 752 00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:01.199 equate that with this same thing of the great wave of immigration in the early 753 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:07.840 nineteen hundreds or somebody coming from Vietnam and doing it legally as opposed to what's 754 00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:14.559 happening now on our southern border and has been encouraged, is ridiculously different. 755 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:19.519 And people who can draw those those parallels are obviously on acid or something. 756 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:23.559 Hung col Thank you so much, yes, sir, thank you so much 757 00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:30.440 for having me. It is Independence Week. I'm a nightcap, and you 758 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.440 know, I couldn't resist the opportunity to talk to my favorite furry friend, 759 00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:40.480 the fur ball Andy Furman, And so here he is. Fur Ball. 760 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:44.280 What's going on? Man? Ah? Are you telling me? I tell 761 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:45.159 you, well, I've got a couple of things I'd like to get off 762 00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:50.039 my chest. And number one in particular with the h I guess the NBA 763 00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:52.880 Draft which is held last week. I'll tell you why I'm upset about that. 764 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:54.159 Oh god, you know what. The first you know, the first 765 00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:58.559 two picks, we're back to back players from France. And this is a 766 00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.760 game. And as a matter of fact, this is my French is so 767 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:04.000 good. I can tell you the number one pick from the Atlanta Hawks is 768 00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:12.559 Zacharie richa re jacha share. How's that pretty good? French? Uh? 769 00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.360 And I'll tell you why I'm upset about that, because this game was born 770 00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:20.440 and bred and discovered and nurtured on our turf. Okay, And look, 771 00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:23.079 I have nothing against the French or anybody else who plays basketball besides out of 772 00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:27.199 the United States. But if you want to promote the game, and you 773 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.960 want to have fans really interested, and you better stop drifting kids from college 774 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.280 here and that goes to Major League Baseball. I love baseball. I love 775 00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.960 the NBA. I love basketball, but they're killing the game by straying away, 776 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:43.000 by trying to spread their wings and market their product nationally. The National 777 00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:45.119 Football they could do it. They could play games in Mexico and South America 778 00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:47.599 and in England. They could do that because the game is so strong, 779 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:52.519 and obviously they only play eighteen games a year. Seventeen eighteen games a year. 780 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:54.239 They could get away with it. The NBA can't get away with it. 781 00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:58.400 And the ratings for TV were horrendous this year. They stink. And 782 00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.760 the NBA, as you know as Major Baseball right now, I believe they're 783 01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:05.719 no longan national sports. I believe they're regional sports. And people cannot follow 784 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.280 a player and know what he has done in his league in France when it 785 01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:13.760 comes to the Atlanta Hawks, period Andy. Uh, you know the NBA's 786 01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:19.599 biggest market, don't you. It's New York. You know it's Communist China 787 01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.159 is the NBA's biggest market. It is, that's a fact. I agree. 788 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:28.079 I agree. You've got you've got over a billion people and they love 789 01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:32.480 basketball. Uh. They they buy and they make most of the goods thanks 790 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:37.800 to Nike and the slave labor that goes on in China and Communist China to 791 01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:43.519 make the goods that are sold at four or five times the price they should 792 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:47.400 be selling at. And the NBA is huge in Communist China. In fact, 793 01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:52.039 I would many people say that in fact, the NBA is owned by 794 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:57.000 Communist China, it's not owned by the individual owners or the league. In 795 01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:02.400 America. It has totally become a not American sport. And I'm not surprised 796 01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:08.400 to see these international players getting drafted because the NBA is always looking to grow 797 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:13.800 their market and wins. They really am they really don't care about the USA 798 01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.840 Andy the NBA that that's ow bos. They care about it now because there's 799 01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:21.800 gonna be some heavy duty negotiating because so TV readings were horrendous. They were 800 01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.880 bad. I mean honestly, I mean, they had less than five million 801 01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:28.039 viewers in the final game of the end of the NBA title game with the 802 01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.840 Boston Celtics this year because people are tired of it. Maybe the season is 803 01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:34.760 too long, or maybe the athletes are paid too high, maybe they're I 804 01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.400 don't know what the reason is, but when you get people coming in there 805 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:38.960 to play and you have no idea who they're from or where they're from, 806 01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:42.920 or they don't speak English or their background. At least you get a kid 807 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.880 that played for Kentucky. Okay, kid play say hey, look, I 808 01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:46.920 watched him play at Kentucky. I want to see how he goes at the 809 01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.639 next level and what he does. You can't do that when you draft the 810 01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:54.199 kid from France. My guess, Andy, my guess is the reason the 811 01:01:54.360 --> 01:02:01.800 NBA ratings sucked this year is because it does not even closely resemble the game 812 01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:07.480 that I grew up loving. That's why you know what You're correct on that 813 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:12.199 stance. However, I would think that the audience that watches it right now, 814 01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.320 they get into a younger audience. I would think maybe between you know, 815 01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:17.760 high school kids in maybe thirty thirty five, because they don't know what 816 01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.400 it was like back in the day. They don't know how great it was 817 01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:24.239 when when those Celtic teams in the sixties played and they could pass the basketball. 818 01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:28.239 But that's a different story. Can I change gears for secause I'm getting 819 01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:30.880 sick. I'm getting sick of talking about this, I really am, because 820 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.320 I'm talking up I guess the brick wall not you. But in general, 821 01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:37.679 people don't think I'm correct when I talk about this. It's true. That's 822 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:40.039 why no one's watching it on TV because they can't relate to who these plays 823 01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:44.360 are. What do you think they watching the WNBA. They follow Caitlin Clark 824 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:45.599 in Iowa. They want to see how she's doing at the next level. 825 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:49.679 She was promoted heavily in Iowa and they follow her all the way up the 826 01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.920 ramp to the WNBA. You can't do it that with a kid from France 827 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:57.239 period. You know what I get? I get the fever anytime they're on 828 01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:01.119 Andy and I love that Caitlin Clark fever. Baby. What else? What 829 01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:04.360 else? What else? You want to talk about? Well, you know 830 01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:07.119 what, I'm a stickle, not a stickle, But i love promotions. 831 01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.000 I love sports promotions. I've done a lot of them throughout my career. 832 01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:12.440 I worked at racetracks, I went to Latonia, I got married with the 833 01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.039 Tonia Race Course at Chris Collins with racer Horse of the Tonia Race Course, 834 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.760 and other things down the road that I've done. But here's a bizarre one 835 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.079 in East Lake, Ohio with the Monor League Baseball team. With a partnership 836 01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:28.559 with Roto Ruder and the Lake County Captain's Baseball team, they're going to unveil 837 01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:36.639 the first effort Rodeo Ruter toilet row at Classic Auto Group Parks. This a 838 01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:40.880 unique seating experience of groundbreaking first to Monor League baseball. They can offer fans 839 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:46.159 the opportunity to enjoy the game from the comfort of deluxe, high end toilets 840 01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:50.320 positioned right behind home plate. So does that mean if you got to go 841 01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:52.920 like a number two, could you do that while you're watching the game? 842 01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.480 I don't know, and I don't know who, and they're not they're not 843 01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:00.079 functioning toilets. They just look like dolet Wouldn't it be great? Though? 844 01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.719 You could you could like wear your bathing suit and it'd be a bidet. 845 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:08.559 Somebody suggested that. I think that would be a phenomenal thing in in the 846 01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:11.840 middle of a they're usually a lot lower, but though you think they're a 847 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:15.119 lot lower than the usual basic seats at a ballpark. So maybe you'll have 848 01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:17.639 obstruction views, you know, unless they're really up close. Maybe they're gonna 849 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.320 be the first row. Now it is, it is the first row. 850 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:25.519 I saw a video of that this morning. It's the it's the front row. 851 01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:30.639 It's right behind home plate, so you've got you've got unobstructed views there 852 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:38.360 and from your from your toilet seat position. Man. Well, there's another 853 01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:41.960 thing. There's addendum to this thing as well, because as an ative bonus, 854 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:46.519 fans can now prove their plunging prowess in the roto Root of Plungerr Challenge. 855 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:50.800 Two brave souls will battle it out each game to see who could expertly 856 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:56.639 launch and stick a plunger onto roto rooters target. How do you like that? 857 01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.679 I mean, the winners will only get it breaking right, but they'll 858 01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:01.840 also get a prime spot in the toilet row and maybe you get a free 859 01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.800 plunger. How do you like that? Walking around with a plunger? That's 860 01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:12.719 pretty neat? Huh? That? This is as good? This is. 861 01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:15.519 This is better than the disco demolition that Veck tried at the White Sox. 862 01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:18.840 Yeah yeah, I don't think it will cause any problems, any heartaches and 863 01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:23.559 any riots if you well there there couldn't. There could be an explosure or 864 01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.760 two on toilet row. But I digress. Yeah, so I mean, 865 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.000 what do you what do you I want to I want to go back, 866 01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:33.760 as I may. I want to go back just for a second to the 867 01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.159 NBA and the draft because I'm watching the draft and John Calla Perry, the 868 01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:42.159 former coach of Kentucky now with Arkansas, was on TV and I'm saying, 869 01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:45.360 why, John, why would you put yourself in that position? Because what 870 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:51.559 you did this year is ridiculous, because it's unbelieve with Caler Perry. Look, 871 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:58.559 he he he had a Shepherd and billing him drafted in the draft this 872 01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:02.280 year, and it's unreal because he hardly played those guys this year. It's 873 01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:08.599 unbelievable what he did, and the criticism that he put himself open to is 874 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:12.159 not right. The former coach had a couple of lottery picks in reach Shepherd, 875 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.119 Sheperd's drafted number three, Rob dealing him drifted number eight, and those 876 01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.360 guys only played together in six games this year. Maybe that's why they lost 877 01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:21.840 to Oakland and several years ago with the Saint Peter's. You know, he 878 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:26.599 put himself in a position where he looked like a fool. He really did. 879 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:29.039 I get it. You want to be on TV and you can kind 880 01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:31.800 of promote ARCHITSI or whatever it is. But all of Kentucky fans when they 881 01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:35.559 saw those draft picks with Williaham and Shepperd's, Ah yeah, look what they 882 01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:40.760 are cow three and eight and you never played them. John Caller Perry, 883 01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:45.760 John Caliperry is as close to a snake oil salesman as there has ever been 884 01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.360 in college basketball. I have zero respect for the guy. He won the 885 01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:55.000 one championship, he should have won ten, and he just simply didn't care 886 01:06:55.320 --> 01:07:00.239 about the University of Kentucky or really their players. He cared about, you 887 01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:05.320 know, getting them to the NBA. He has always had big profile TV 888 01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:12.920 games, made lots of money on the backs of UK fans who were annually 889 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.679 disappointed. You want to talk. He reminds me of the music man that 890 01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:21.719 Robert Preston played in the movie. Yeah, yeah, No, he's a 891 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:25.840 phony. He's a phony. I hope he falls on his face at argument. 892 01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:29.000 If he didn't care about winter losses, didn't care about the alums. 893 01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:32.800 His whole sailing point to the public was I produced these kids and the highest 894 01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:36.239 salary people coming out of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. I get it, you 895 01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:40.000 know, you know what, John, they would have been the highest salary 896 01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:43.679 with or without you, but the alums don't care. Season ticketholders don't care. 897 01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:45.440 They want you to win. And look if you went out to Rupplereta 898 01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:48.840 the last several years. It was not full to the grim the last several 899 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:53.960 years. No, they they the NBA should have been paying him, not 900 01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:56.639 UK. Listen, Andy, I got to run, Betty, agree with 901 01:07:56.679 --> 01:08:02.599 you. I'm off like a prom dress. See you. I'm done. 902 01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:09.559 On an Independence Week, we are taking some time out to talk to the 903 01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:15.519 man behind our American stories. It's a fantastic series of radio shows and they've 904 01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:20.760 got just incredible videos out and the man behind them is a guy that I 905 01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:27.199 really love talking to because he's a radio guy like me. Lee Habib, 906 01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:31.359 Welcome to Independence Week with Gary Jim Well, thanks thanks for having me. 907 01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:34.960 It's a great week. It's the most important week aside if you're a Christian, 908 01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:39.319 we know the important weeks, but if you're an American, this is 909 01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:43.119 the week. This is the way we celebrate our birthday and our birth certificate. 910 01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:49.399 And as many people who have highlighted in the show, if you're an 911 01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:55.800 American and a Christian, it's really important those two go hand in hand when 912 01:08:55.800 --> 01:09:00.159 it comes to this particular holiday. There's no doubt. Look odds all over 913 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.479 the Declaration. He's mentioned four times, Yeah, four times, and Jefferson 914 01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:11.800 does that writing Jefferson no less. So there's no question that many of if 915 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:15.520 not all, some comes from the Enlightenment. But in the end, man 916 01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:19.720 should not be Man should not be governed by kings. Man has an available 917 01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:24.680 right to govern himself and no one should come between him and his God. 918 01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:29.479 This was the biggest point that it's God and man and government, not God 919 01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:33.399 government man. Yeah, excellent, fundamental shift in world history. You have 920 01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:41.359 a great piece on Thomas Pain that you're highlighting is is kind of a beacon 921 01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:45.960 for today. If we have that same kind of Thomas Pain mentality about us, 922 01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:51.680 maybe we can overcome some of these incredible hurdles and obstacles that have been 923 01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:57.840 front put in front of those who were pursuing the American dream. In twenty 924 01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.119 twenty, Well, we write about what Pain was going up against the colonists, 925 01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:03.479 right, And it was simple. The king was moving in on the 926 01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:09.119 colonists to more tightly govern us, and haddn't for a long time a period 927 01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:14.520 of statulatory neglect, salutary neglect, and and and the colonists. Well there. 928 01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:18.119 Some hate it, but some don't. Most historians agree that the country 929 01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:21.640 was split in thirds, the third one with the with the patriots, the 930 01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:25.479 third one with the king, and the third wie hiding under their desks. 931 01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:28.960 Sound familiar, but the third we're mad. We're saying, Look, we 932 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.840 have been governing ourselves for a long time. We aimed to do it now 933 01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:38.760 ourselves forever. We want a divorce. Thomas Payne wrote into that by basically 934 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:44.520 talking about the elites, the ruling elites from England, the Parliament and the 935 01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:46.039 king. And by the way, a lot of us think there are ruling 936 01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:50.000 elites governing us today. And the distant power isn't Washington. See the dist 937 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:54.560 empower is in London. It's Washington, d C. And Brussels, the 938 01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:59.680 European Union and the World Economic Forum, the DeVos crowd and so what he 939 01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:03.520 wrote this is an interesting little paragraph from pain and he's talking about the elites. 940 01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:08.119 Male and femail are the distinctions of nature, he wrote, good in 941 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:12.479 bed the distinctions of heaven. But how a race of men came into the 942 01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:18.279 world so exalted above the rest and distinguished like some new species is worth inquiring 943 01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:24.760 into. And whether they are the means of happiness or of misery to mankind. 944 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:30.000 And this is his enjoinder to take a ride with him as he rips 945 01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:35.159 the monarchy and he rips the elites. And what's fascinating is the king's response, 946 01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:41.520 because here's what the king writes. In reply to the men who wrote 947 01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:46.319 the Declaration of Independence. He wrote, when the happy and deluded multitude. 948 01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:51.039 So this is what he's called our founders and the Americans who were for the 949 01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:57.159 patriots. He might as well have written deplorable right. Oh absolutely, he 950 01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:00.600 says when he and this is his threat and promise, because he's basically saying, 951 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:04.000 we're already fighting, by the way, at this point when we wrote 952 01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:08.520 the declaration. In the midst of the fight, he says, against whom 953 01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:12.159 this force will be directed shall become sensible of their error. He's saying, 954 01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:15.399 Look, I know, once we come, you'll get sensible. You are 955 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.439 just deluded. Temporarily, he says, I shall be ready to receive the 956 01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:24.800 misled misinformation. I'll be ready to receive the misled with tenderness and mercy. 957 01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:29.239 You poured dumb butts. Right, you put and in order to prevent the 958 01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:33.840 inconveniences which may have arived from our great distance. That's why you don't you 959 01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:38.159 have lost your mind. You're too far from us. And to remove as 960 01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:43.199 soon as possible the calamities which you suffer, I shall give authority to all 961 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:50.039 persons under my rule to spot to grant general or particular pardons and indemnities immediately. 962 01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:54.359 In other words, you still have a chance to bail out, you 963 01:12:54.439 --> 01:13:00.720 idiots. Of course, this rallied, this rallied the patriots, rallied the 964 01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:04.439 country. And by the way, when you start calling us deplorables and racists 965 01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:10.079 and everything else because we simply want to govern ourselves, well, you're going 966 01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:15.239 to make a lot more Americans Conservatives. Yeah, Ted Thomas Paine was like 967 01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:24.000 the conservative, the lone conservative voice with his pamphlets and his common sense and 968 01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:26.760 the like at the time of the Revolutionary War. I mean, we have 969 01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:32.239 those people today as well. But again, they're kind of like a voice 970 01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:35.359 in the wilderness a lot of times. And you've got to you had a 971 01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:40.039 screen pretty loud to be heard above the den of the others who are just 972 01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:44.359 willing to be compliant to the powers that be. Well, and I would 973 01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:47.600 just urge anybody listening to go. I've written a piece on this type in 974 01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:53.520 Leeha Bibe and Newsweek and Pain and you can actually read his writing and then 975 01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:58.159 go and read common Sense, because I am promising you everything we were fighting 976 01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:03.039 then for and again is exactly the same fight. Do we have the right 977 01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:08.960 to govern ourselves? Who do want elected bureaucrats? The Who, the Gates 978 01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:14.920 Foundation, and all kinds of non governing bodies like the like the like the 979 01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:19.520 the World Economic Forum for the or the British, the British, French, 980 01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:26.039 German and European essentially the European Union. Who do we respond to the Paris 981 01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:30.119 Accords or the American Accords? This is what elections are about. Self rule. 982 01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:36.279 And these fifty pesty states who each have constitutions of their own, that's 983 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:40.239 America. You want to live in Berkeley, live in Berkeley. You want 984 01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:44.119 to live in Birmingham, live in Birmingham. If you want Cincinnati, live 985 01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:48.439 in Cincinnati. This is a huge, big swath of land with many different 986 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:53.279 and beautiful ways to run your states and run our country. And that we 987 01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:57.560 are literally having the same fight we'd common sense. You'll be inspired to take 988 01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:00.279 up You'll be inspired to take up a mic We don't need to take up 989 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:04.720 a bayonet. Take up that microphone. Share Thomas Paine with friends. They'll 990 01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:09.920 love it absolutely, Lee have bee By. I love our American stories. 991 01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:16.119 You guys continue to crank out great, great profiles of great Americans and others 992 01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:20.840 on a regular basis. And I just love the format of what you do. 993 01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:25.439 And you talk about you want to live in Berkeley. I don't know 994 01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:30.159 who wants to live in Berkeley right now. You want to live in Birmingham. 995 01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:32.319 And you were talking about you want to live in Cincinnati. When I 996 01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:38.319 first moved to this area in nineteen ninety four, I lived in Lots of 997 01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:42.800 people love Cincinnati, and I, you know, by osmosis, because I'm 998 01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.239 here, I must love Cincinnati after being here for as long as I have, 999 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:51.800 thirty years. But when I was living in Cincinnati in Ohio and I 1000 01:15:51.840 --> 01:16:00.079 looked across the river at Kentucky and it was amazing how different just crossing that 1001 01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:03.800 river was when I moved to Kentucky. So you're right to have that freedom 1002 01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:09.560 of movement and that freedom to determine how you're going to live where you live. 1003 01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:14.239 That's that's the whole American dream. And a nutshell to me, and 1004 01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:17.800 it is and the respect that we lived differently and choose to live differently. 1005 01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:20.760 If you want to live in a little apartment building in the middle next to 1006 01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:25.800 Central Park and pay eight thousand dollars a month so you can walk on concrete 1007 01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:29.239 to your office, it it's not my thing, but it might be your 1008 01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:31.880 thing. I like my five acres and my thirty chickens. They might think 1009 01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:36.399 I'm crazy. That's fine. You don't name your chickens though, right Lee. 1010 01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:40.640 My wife and daughter named some of them, and I'm too old to 1011 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.479 you to remember their name, so certainly I can remember the chickens name. 1012 01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:48.199 Oh, thank you for being a part of our Independence week, Lee habib 1013 01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:55.399 our American stories and the latest done, mister Thomas Payne, look for it. 1014 01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:59.479 Thanks, thank you so much. Thanks Lee, Bye bye the Little 1015 01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.720 Fish. And with all of the non fiction we've been featuring, but the 1016 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:12.359 fiction kind of hears current situations and points to some disturbing trends in a way 1017 01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:16.239 and maybe some things to watch out for. In the new book Revolution Empire, 1018 01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:21.880 and we have its author Rob Travelino as our guest and couldn't be happier 1019 01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:27.199 about that. So Rob let's get going. How are you. I'm good, 1020 01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.159 Thanks for yourself, Thanks for having me on. I'm always good on 1021 01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:39.079 Independence Week. Fourth of July is far and away my favorite holiday. Nothing 1022 01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:44.560 comes close except for Thanksgiving because I get to fix food and eat. But 1023 01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:49.479 the fourth of July has always had a special place in my heart, and 1024 01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:55.680 I think in anybody who really loves his country, it has a special place. 1025 01:17:56.479 --> 01:18:00.199 So it's a great week for me. But it's great to have you 1026 01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:03.880 on. And let's find out about Rob a little bit, because I was 1027 01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:06.800 asking you and I really don't know a whole lot, and you said, 1028 01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:11.680 well, there's there's a whole lot to unpack there, so so let's get 1029 01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:16.640 started. You started, what did you want to do originally in your life? 1030 01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:21.840 Rob oh Man, a little kid wanted to be My dad was a 1031 01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:27.520 minor league baseball player and scout. He was actually a great hitter. He 1032 01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:31.239 hit I think his career he hit well into the three hundreds. But yeah, 1033 01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:33.800 he's kind of short for he was a center fielder. He was kind 1034 01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:39.520 of sure. You played for the Durham Bulls and was drafted into the Saint 1035 01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:43.600 Louis Browns organizations later became the Orioles, and he was. They used to 1036 01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:46.920 have something called the Industrial Leagues in uh they used to you know, spont 1037 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:50.800 the sponsored teams that would play semi pro sure, and before he went to 1038 01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:54.319 the Durham Bulls, he was a big star in the Industrial Leagues. But 1039 01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:59.239 he was too short as an outfielder and they wanted him to play like infield, 1040 01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:00.640 second base or whatever, and he kept saying, no, I'm an 1041 01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:04.039 outfielder, I'm an outfielder. And of course he never got he never got 1042 01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:05.840 there, but he got, you know, got as high as what would 1043 01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.399 be Triple A today. Ended up being a scouting for the Orioles. So 1044 01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:13.039 you wanted to follow, you wanted to follow a Dan's footstep. Yeah, 1045 01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:15.399 Unfortunately, I was a great fielder, but I wasn't the best hitter, 1046 01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:18.840 so my baseball career would have never went anywhere. But I also wanted to 1047 01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:23.199 be an astronaut and a pilot, which I actually did some of that because 1048 01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:26.439 I ended up with us for a period of time when I could when you 1049 01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:30.079 know, it was a very expensive hobby, obviously too expensive for my career 1050 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:34.159 at the time, but I actually had some pilot license and was flying single 1051 01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:39.840 engine playing which was really fun. But it's it's it's a weird story because 1052 01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:43.800 I went to school for journalism and literature and I studied psychologists, had all 1053 01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:48.399 kinds of subjects, and I got drafted into of all things advertising and marketing. 1054 01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:54.000 And I had a very successful career in the in the kids and teenage 1055 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:58.239 ad business, actually one of the biggest accounts in the world. I worked 1056 01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:02.520 on a lot of major chizes. But I know, we want to talk 1057 01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:05.760 about the book, so it's really well, I mean, I got time, 1058 01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:13.279 But I mean writing was always something that you had an interest in. 1059 01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:17.760 Something like I said, you were a journalism major. Writing was always on 1060 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:24.359 your radar, and when did you decide to get real serious about that? 1061 01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:30.279 I was serious, a little serious about it in high school because my creative 1062 01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:34.319 writing teacher loved my work and she said I should be you know, I 1063 01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:38.680 should do some kind of writing. I think her quote was, you'll be 1064 01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:41.840 doing yourself in the world of disservice if you don't write, because you really 1065 01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:45.039 have a skill for it. Of course, it took me about, you 1066 01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:48.840 know, twenty years to hear the register what she was talking about, but 1067 01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:53.680 I kind of wanted to get into it in the journalism side. What kind 1068 01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:57.960 of opened my eyes early on were a couple of things. When I went 1069 01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:02.399 to high school sort of noticed that American history. So I've got reach in 1070 01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:08.119 history, writing early and researching because when I noticed that some of the I 1071 01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:12.560 was in I was in a suburb of New York. Both my parents worked. 1072 01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:15.600 My mom went back to school so they could afford to move from the 1073 01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:19.319 bronx to an more affluent suburb and get a house and everything else. But 1074 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:24.920 I noticed while I was there that I was being taught kind of and this 1075 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:27.800 is this isn't you know, this is a this is not that long ago, 1076 01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:30.880 this is you know, this is in the you know, I was 1077 01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:34.159 being taught like an apologist view of American history in high school, and I 1078 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:39.359 thought it was a little bit strange because that wasn't the way I was raised. 1079 01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:43.439 And so when I started doing my own research, I started bumping heads 1080 01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:46.439 with my some of my teachers in that school, and you know, I 1081 01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:51.479 sort of noticed what the agenda you know, in place to to you know, 1082 01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:56.520 to sort of talk about everything that was wrong with the country as opposed 1083 01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:00.600 to what was right about it. And it was odd because another thing that 1084 01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:04.439 happened was. I was cautioned a lot in that school environment that you know 1085 01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:11.399 that people who people of people of religion, and especially religious schools were like 1086 01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:14.880 you know, in doctrination factories. And I wasn't the greatest student in high 1087 01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:17.079 school because I rebelled against a lot of what I was being taught and shown. 1088 01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:21.079 I rebelled against sort of I don't know, structure and authority to some 1089 01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:27.359 extent anyway, And I went to a Catholic college and I you know, 1090 01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:30.840 I graduated with a three point nine average. And it was, oddly enough, 1091 01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:34.000 the Catholic school was the most open educational experience I had. I was 1092 01:22:34.039 --> 01:22:38.319 able to challenge anything it was, We were able to discuss anything it was. 1093 01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:42.119 It was. It was truly, you know, a representative education. 1094 01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:45.920 So it really opened my eyes. And when I got into the business world, 1095 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:53.279 I started to see sort of the corporate sort of, for lack of 1096 01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:57.319 a better way to put it, the corporate control was was almost on to 1097 01:22:57.359 --> 01:23:02.319 the level of tyranny back then, because they were segmenting and dividing the society 1098 01:23:02.319 --> 01:23:06.760 a certain way. And I tried to you know, steer the companies I 1099 01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:13.960 worked with away from making money off of different segments of the population and looking 1100 01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:19.640 at more universal stories and more universal themes like empowerment and self actualization and you 1101 01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:24.079 know, building, building the life of your dreams, you know, conquering 1102 01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.760 your fears, you know, all these aspirational, you know sort of messages. 1103 01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.600 I said, that'll actually make you more money and sell you more things. 1104 01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:33.159 And it was a constant battle. In fact, my advertising career ended 1105 01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:39.560 when I went against a very powerful entertainment company. No need to go into 1106 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:44.119 too much detail because it's a long story, but I basically critiqued a major 1107 01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:47.319 franchise movie said that it was putting out all the wrong messages, and I 1108 01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:50.800 was sort of asked off the business and made to go work on something else. 1109 01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:55.680 And at that point I knew I'd struck struck a very correct nerve. 1110 01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:59.760 So I went into the entertainment world to do some of my own projects I 1111 01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:03.439 got. I did a TV show for Disney called Dragon Booster, and it 1112 01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.960 was on the air for about three years, and I don't think Disney realized 1113 01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:13.319 that the message of the show was sort of anti uh, letting corporations tell 1114 01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:15.399 kids what to do with their lives, and they kind of let it slip 1115 01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:20.640 by and I did another show that then I helped develop that won an Emmy 1116 01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:25.680 award, and and at some point I butted heads in Hollywood too, because 1117 01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:30.039 I just didn't like the agenda and the and sort of the underlying sort of 1118 01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:31.960 message, which which was more of the same. It was like, you 1119 01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.000 know, we know better than everybody else, and we're we're you know, 1120 01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:39.800 we control everything and you have to play by our rules. And that never, 1121 01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:43.479 you know, stuck well with me, because this whole country was formed 1122 01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:47.159 on not following someone's you know, mandates and rules, and you know, 1123 01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:54.920 on individualism and individual rights and your ability to speak your mind no matter what 1124 01:24:55.079 --> 01:25:00.239 the current fad or trend or agenda was. And uh yeah, I feel 1125 01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:04.520 like that too in radio. I've been in radio for forty four years, 1126 01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:09.600 and you want to talk about, you know, going head to head with 1127 01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:15.319 corporate dictates and and all of that. I've done that, and somehow I've 1128 01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:19.399 still survived. I don't know that. Maybe they just haven't caught me yet. 1129 01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:24.039 No, well, there's listen, there's good people everywhere, right, 1130 01:25:24.079 --> 01:25:28.119 but the system tends to support itself and so where it makes money, it 1131 01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.039 makes money. And when I started to realize as I sort of went through 1132 01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:33.680 everything. This is where Revolution Empire came from. It was originally being developed 1133 01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:38.319 as a television series, and I sort of looked at the founding sort of 1134 01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:41.520 principles of the country. You know, this is during a time you know, 1135 01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:44.359 this is during the late two thousands, you know, mid two thousand, 1136 01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:47.640 mid to late two thousands, where you know, we were literally you 1137 01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:51.119 know, we had we had you know, politicians on both sides were predominantly 1138 01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:56.520 one side of the aisle constantly talking about you know, how the country was 1139 01:25:56.560 --> 01:26:00.840 bad and the constitution maybe was bad and bill of it's only applied this way 1140 01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:03.439 and and this was this and this and that, and you watch the erosion 1141 01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:09.079 of certain things. Oddly enough, you know, the when I was in 1142 01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:15.880 college, actually right before I went into college, the the Chevron deference was 1143 01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:20.279 was instituted, and it's you know, it's an interesting thing to watch be 1144 01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:25.800 reversed because this administry and when I realized when I was when I was in 1145 01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:29.680 corporate America was the administrative state. I realized that we had you know, 1146 01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:35.479 sort of pods of of of almost oligarch agencies, you know, using you 1147 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:42.239 know, law fare and regulations to to kill stifle punish or find anything they 1148 01:26:42.239 --> 01:26:45.760 didn't. You know, ideologically, I think the reversal of the Chevron differential 1149 01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:50.359 was the biggest decision of this session. I really do, Rob, sure, 1150 01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:54.079 I I I completely agree with that, and you know, and and 1151 01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:57.239 then and in terms of you know, what it did to I don't want 1152 01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:00.960 to, don't need to to jump ahead on the book. But what struck 1153 01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:04.079 me with you know when I was writing the book was our rights and our 1154 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:10.000 privileges, which we're getting a bad rap for a long time. Took down 1155 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:18.720 at the time the largest colonial corporate empire on planet Earth. Amen. Amen, 1156 01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:23.880 Rob, I'll tell you what I'm at breakpoint. Let's come back and 1157 01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:29.520 talk about revolution empire in depth. Rob Travelino is our guest. It's Independence 1158 01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:35.640 Week. It's fiction, but really is it. It's Rob Travelino's concoction and 1159 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:43.199 it's out now a book that talks about a dystopian future. And I don't 1160 01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:47.960 know how far into the future it is, but it takes on the Orwellian 1161 01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:54.119 aspects that we have seen popping up over the last twenty years in this country 1162 01:27:54.800 --> 01:28:00.000 and kind of there were some heroes who were railing against it. Rob, 1163 01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:04.520 tell me a little bit more about revolution Empire. Sure, I'm happy to 1164 01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:08.840 and thanks again. So so here's you know, here's here's sort of like 1165 01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:13.000 the you know, to expand on what I was saying earlier, like you 1166 01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:16.800 had this revolution against you know, this incredibly powerful corporate you know, sort 1167 01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:21.800 of global state, and at the same time it was an era of authoritarianism 1168 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:27.439 and an oligarchy around the world. And this is a really unique experiment and 1169 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:31.000 a really unique idea because and this is something that we missed today in the 1170 01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:35.159 discourse when we don't talk improperly about the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. 1171 01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:45.319 These items were created not just to free a nation from what they perceived as 1172 01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:49.119 economic, uh, you know, oppression and legal oppression and and literally let 1173 01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:54.399 you know, like military impression at one point, but they were also designed 1174 01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:58.520 for, you know, to be counters and checks and balances against human nature 1175 01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:01.520 itself. The founder understood when you look at what they really did and you 1176 01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:04.359 read their actual letters. If you read the letters that were written back and 1177 01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:10.279 forth between like Jefferson and Adams or Washington and Adams, and you see what 1178 01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:14.399 these guys were struggling with and what they were really talking about behind the scenes, 1179 01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:17.399 you realize they were setting something up that even would take the power or 1180 01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:25.279 keep the power away from men like themselves, because the idea was no government 1181 01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:29.279 of people should ever hold that much power. And these guys, you know, 1182 01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:31.359 people like to say that America was never even intended as a Christian nation, 1183 01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:34.880 had no Christian beginnings. And meanwhile, if you read the letters again, 1184 01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:39.279 they say a completely different thing. The Ten Commandments, the story of 1185 01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:43.520 the Exodus, these things were really and you know, the New Testament incredibly 1186 01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:46.920 important. The Founders discussed it. Most of the founders discussed these things regularly. 1187 01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:51.399 You know, there's letters between John Adams and Abigail Adams talking specifically about 1188 01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:56.880 the Old Testament, about Moses and the Bible. John Adams even compared himself 1189 01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:00.840 in one letter to his wife about you know, feeling like Moses and like, 1190 01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:02.560 you know, being like you know alone, you know, as well 1191 01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:06.079 as a leader and taking all these chances. You know, most people don't 1192 01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:10.560 realize because they weren't taught that the Great Seal of the United States was originally 1193 01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:13.760 intended to be Moses part in the Red Sea. That was one of the 1194 01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:16.439 first things that was put forth by a committee that I know included Adams and 1195 01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:19.680 Jefferson and Franklin. I forgot who else was in it. But that's this 1196 01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:25.600 is stuff that people don't know. They also don't recognize that the that the 1197 01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:30.880 Bill of Rights and Constitution were literally designed to make sure that no people, 1198 01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.039 no, no, you know, no nobody could ever rise to the level 1199 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:38.039 of an authoritarian or an oligarch, or use law fee or use any of 1200 01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:42.600 these things that we're using today. These guys understood that slavery was wrong. 1201 01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:46.399 They were they they knew that the country would never come together without it for 1202 01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:50.039 a limited time, but they put into place system, a system of laws 1203 01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:57.439 and principles that they knew would destroy the institution. In fact, when the 1204 01:30:57.479 --> 01:31:01.359 Civil War was fought, Frederick Douglas was a huge you know, a former 1205 01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:05.560 former slave person. You know, had a North story newspaper and a lot 1206 01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:10.520 of people again don't get don't get taught this history. He was the fierce 1207 01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:13.560 critic of Lincoln. Lincoln, he came to the White House. The White 1208 01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:15.600 House guard wouldn't let him in because he was a black guy. At the 1209 01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:18.399 door, Lincoln found out it was Frederick Douglas and said send him up, 1210 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:21.960 got to meet him. They had a series of meetings. They weren't easy, 1211 01:31:23.039 --> 01:31:27.039 they were difficult at first, but they came to an understanding over their 1212 01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:31.279 mutual appreciation and respect for the Bible, and for the Declaration of Independence, 1213 01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:34.560 and for the principles of the country. And they worked together so much so 1214 01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:39.640 that when Lincoln was inaugurated the second time, he sought Douglas out at the 1215 01:31:39.680 --> 01:31:44.199 reception at the White House and said, of all the people in this country, 1216 01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:46.359 yours is the opinion. Yours, it's your opinion that matters most. 1217 01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:53.119 And when Lincoln passed away Maritime Lincoln gave Frederick Douglas Lincoln's favorite walking stick, 1218 01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:58.640 almost like a Moses walking stick. And people don't recognize the power of these 1219 01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.880 rights. So I looked at the world as a television series, idea, 1220 01:32:01.960 --> 01:32:05.279 or as a book, and I said, how do I get the words 1221 01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:12.960 and the intentions and the principles into a place where anybody can absorb them free 1222 01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:17.119 and clear of the political that charged political discourse. Right? So I based 1223 01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:21.760 the story using all the founding players, from the British side, the American 1224 01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:27.720 side, from the ranks of Native Americans, from the ranks of the enslaved, 1225 01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:30.159 and I took their letters and their words and their speeches, and I 1226 01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:35.840 based all the dialogue and the characters and the chronology of the story around their 1227 01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:41.520 actual words. There's journals in the book for all the main characters where a 1228 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:45.239 doctor Richard Franklin's name is, who's the ben Franklin character who works in the 1229 01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:49.600 empire and as part of the oppression is undermining the empire. But he's writing 1230 01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:54.520 the words and principles of Benjamin Franklin. And you won't know that by reading 1231 01:32:54.520 --> 01:32:58.640 the book unless you know your history. But you'll see that these principles and 1232 01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:02.880 these thoughts in these conversations are incredibly important to what's going on today, and 1233 01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:08.279 you could absorb them by watching them occur as opposed to learn them in a 1234 01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:13.760 history book. You can see them in action and like deeply personal. Well, 1235 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:17.000 Rob, you said something very telling is that a lot of people don't 1236 01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:23.560 know this, and that is part of the way that we get back to 1237 01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:29.720 what is supposed to be is by people understanding, fully learning, and wanting 1238 01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:40.720 to learn that the Constitution was written to limit government, not to expand it, 1239 01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:45.520 and to know so the government would not take away or be tempted to 1240 01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:50.640 take away the rights that God had given US Revolution Empire focus on the seventeen 1241 01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:57.039 year old hero Donovan Washington Rush. I love the names. That's great. 1242 01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:00.159 You said you have a doctor Franklin in the book as well, and his 1243 01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:09.479 band of marauders who are railing against this this Marxi Marxist corporate or well like 1244 01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:15.920 tyranny that is going on in this in this future setting. And there are 1245 01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:20.199 parallels to the British Empire like you mentioned earlier, and the kids and actually 1246 01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:26.319 some of the adults recognize the layers of control that are benefiting the few at 1247 01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:30.439 the top. And god, we see the elitism everywhere today. You say 1248 01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:36.000 that it's not as bad as nineteen eighty four yet, and you're you're encouraged, 1249 01:34:36.760 --> 01:34:41.960 right, I'm encouraged because more people are aware of what's actually going on, 1250 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:45.880 Like you know, you won't, you won't see it unfortunately the media 1251 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:48.359 as a vestibly. And here's the thing too, Like I'm a I'm of 1252 01:34:48.359 --> 01:34:53.680 a mind that I don't want to assume that everyone has a malicious intent. 1253 01:34:54.119 --> 01:35:00.680 The problem is is that money and power are so incredibly utive that it takes 1254 01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:06.359 an incredibly strong character to withstand it. And anybody, again, we're all 1255 01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:10.319 flawed, right, and we all make mistakes, so anybody can succumb to 1256 01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:12.800 it. And in fact, you know, I gave it a look back 1257 01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:15.840 to my own life when I got very successful in advertising. You know, 1258 01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:18.520 here I was studying the you know, the the techniques of Edward Brenets, 1259 01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:24.439 and studying propaganda and studying behavioral modification and how to like you know, you 1260 01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:28.359 know, convince people to set aside their beliefs to make choices that would that 1261 01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:31.920 would benefit a client, right, And you realize at some point when you're 1262 01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:38.159 doing that that not only are you doing something potentially very nefarious and dangerous, 1263 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:42.880 you also recognize how the world has is starting to function that way or has 1264 01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:45.960 been functioning that way. And that's what I decided, I'm going to use 1265 01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:48.119 what I've now learned for good. And when you look at you know, 1266 01:35:48.199 --> 01:35:53.920 through the years of like Marxism or or you know, or authoritarian regimes, 1267 01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:59.359 they use all the techniques that advertisers use to convince, to browbeat, convince, 1268 01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:04.560 cojol threatened, you know, isolate people to ignore what's right in front 1269 01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:10.359 of them and buy into something that serves very few. And so you know, 1270 01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:14.199 those are all components that went into my head to do the book, 1271 01:36:14.239 --> 01:36:17.600 because once we lose our you know, our our sovereign nature, once we 1272 01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:23.119 lose our god given rights we have, we're enslaved. We're entirely enslaved, 1273 01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:28.079 absolutely, and it's it's come close recently, and hopefully we can find our 1274 01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:30.640 way out of it. Hopefully you can find your way to revolution empire. 1275 01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:36.840 It is the book. Rob Travelino is the author, and it's what a 1276 01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:43.239 fascinating conversation with you overall, just learning about your life. I mean you've 1277 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:48.159 been through a lot of different phases and interesting stuff. Rob, thanks a 1278 01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:51.840 lot, my pleasure, Thanks again for having me on. Is a good 1279 01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:57.159 week for it? Yes, it is perfect. It's Independence week and it 1280 01:36:57.199 --> 01:37:02.520 continues tonight. To talk to l Ponte, the widow of my friend, 1281 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:05.319 and to your friend if you ever heard him on the air with me, 1282 01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:10.199 and you're about to a loll Ponte. It's been a year and a half 1283 01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:15.840 since Lowell passed and I like to every once in a while revisit conversations with 1284 01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:18.880 Lowell Ponte. And that's what we're going to do, is we close this 1285 01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:26.079 night cap out. Thank you for joining us once again, and in memory 1286 01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:30.720 of all the greats we've lost, like Jim Scott, here once again is 1287 01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:35.760 Loll Ponte. It is the nightcap on Memorial Day evening. As we top 1288 01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:40.840 things off this evening one of my favorite people in the world to talk to, 1289 01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:46.920 an author, a media star, a great editor, and a fantastic 1290 01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:53.680 friend, the great Loll Ponte. As we get into our final hour of 1291 01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:58.640 this Memorial Day, May thirtieth, twenty twenty two, Gary Jeff low Ponte. 1292 01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:02.439 Good evening, Good evening, Gary Jeff. On this Memorial Day, 1293 01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:09.880 the unofficial door into summer, Yes wonderful, is a day inspired by Confederate 1294 01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:17.640 widows who were a dedication way right, Yes that was its original form, 1295 01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:24.760 who would strew flowers not only on the graves of their own relatives and so 1296 01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:30.479 on, but also on the graves of Union soldiers. And that bipartisanship was 1297 01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:34.960 a great inspirational gesture that began this day as a day of special memory, 1298 01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:40.840 memorial of course, referring to memory, of course, today we are in 1299 01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:46.239 another civil war that we don't even understand yet, a Marxist class war disguised 1300 01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:51.079 as a race and gender war. So I thought we might talk a bit 1301 01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:57.600 about that absolutely as it were forward memory. Yes, yes, I mean, 1302 01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:02.479 there couldn't have been any great division in the country then North and South 1303 01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:10.119 taking sides and starting firing each other. So it was quite a great unifying 1304 01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:15.720 gesture for these Confederate widows to decorate not only the graves of their husbands and 1305 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:21.960 brothers and sons, but to also show the same gratitude and remembrance for Union 1306 01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:29.000 soldiers who had died in the same battles. So this division, this civil 1307 01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:31.880 war that you say, is going on right now before our very eyes, 1308 01:39:31.880 --> 01:39:39.399 although some people still don't still don't recognize it or realize it is about. 1309 01:39:40.399 --> 01:39:45.359 Really it's all about division. It's not about slavery, it's not about racism. 1310 01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:49.079 It's not about the differences and genders or the fact that they think there 1311 01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:55.399 may be fifty seven or one hundred and fifty seven different genders some of these 1312 01:39:55.439 --> 01:40:00.479 people. It's none of that is about unity, for certain, and it's 1313 01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:05.760 all about trying to keep us at odds with each other. So please let 1314 01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:10.640 me know. And as an example of just how vicious it already is, 1315 01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:15.359 we have seen Joe Biden and his administration stand back from the protests at the 1316 01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:20.039 homes of Supreme Court justices, even though there is a clear, explicit federal 1317 01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:26.000 law making that a crime, meaning he could and should be sending in Justice 1318 01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:31.039 Department agents to arrest the people staging those protests. After all, there is 1319 01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:36.119 one of the greatest threatening lines that can be spoken in English is I know 1320 01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:41.039 where you live. Yeah, I know where you sleep, I know where 1321 01:40:41.079 --> 01:40:45.159 your children are, where your spouse is, and so on. This is 1322 01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:50.239 a very very terrifying threat. And that's exactly what these protesters manifest, what 1323 01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:57.680 they show up at the homes of Supreme Court justices. Meanwhile, well, 1324 01:40:58.439 --> 01:41:02.760 how does this break from quote unquote peaceful protest. Why is it different? 1325 01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:11.159 Well, it's explicitly protest outlawed by federal law, right because it is an 1326 01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:15.560 attempt to By the way, there is also a federal law that if you 1327 01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:24.640 were trying to deliberately intimidate anyone else, theoretically including elected officials, by going 1328 01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:28.319 to their homes, that also would be taken as a serious threat. You're 1329 01:41:28.359 --> 01:41:31.840 more than welcome to go protest in front of the Supreme Court, but not 1330 01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:35.880 where people live in sleep, Yeah, I guess. And if they are 1331 01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:41.520 a high government people called on to make a decision, We've already seen, 1332 01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:46.640 for example, representative Steve Scalice, who was shot by a Bernie Sanders supporter, 1333 01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:53.520 a socialist, And so we know this can be quite dangerous. And 1334 01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:59.439 what's frightening is what was Joe Biden really doing, Whether consciously or unconsciously. 1335 01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:03.359 He was saying, you, people who feel outraged to the point of insanity, 1336 01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:08.079 I want you to go to the homes of Supreme Court justices. He 1337 01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:13.520 named only the conservative ones, of course, and if they happen to get 1338 01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:18.840 shot by some fanatic and get killed, yes, I Joe Biden imperfectly willing 1339 01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:26.359 and ready to name their replacement from the roster of far left judges. In 1340 01:42:26.399 --> 01:42:31.560 other words, we literally are having a president of the United States stand back 1341 01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:38.640 and allow an act of criminal violence to take place in hopes. Dare I 1342 01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:42.640 say, at least in the possibility that this will lead to the murder of 1343 01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:46.560 one or more Supreme Court justices who Biden can then replace. I mean, 1344 01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:51.319 it's a terrifying, a new dimension from politics, the way he is going 1345 01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:57.680 from ballots to bullets. So he didn't verbalize telling them, but by his 1346 01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:08.000 acquiescence, by his inability to enforce federal laws and statutes in keeping these threatening 1347 01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:12.439 actions from happening in front of Supreme Court justices Homes. He did basically the 1348 01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:16.279 same thing he's been doing at the southern border ever since his inauguration, and 1349 01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:23.399 you know, putting the welcome. He didn't say verbally, yes, we're 1350 01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:27.399 going to open up the border, but by his actions he has said this 1351 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:31.840 very loudly ever since he's been president. That seems to be the implication. 1352 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:39.439 Yes, and he is without checking, without qualification, allowing in potential murderers, 1353 01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:44.960 potential people carrying deadly disease, all kinds of problems that would not be 1354 01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:48.479 tolerated if this were Americans getting aboard an airliner. But if they're getting aboard 1355 01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:54.479 one of the Biden air flights at four in the morning, going to secret 1356 01:43:54.520 --> 01:44:00.399 destinations to have the country seated with a huge number and we're now going up 1357 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:06.119 to about eighteen thousand a day, these people being scattered across the country to 1358 01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:13.239 take the place of those who are there. Now understand that this is a 1359 01:44:13.399 --> 01:44:19.479 very bizarre action, especially since only today President Biden, or with it yesterday? 1360 01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:25.800 Was it Uvaldi yes yesterday? Noting the killing. By the way, 1361 01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:31.600 he never has gotten around to going to that town in Wisconsin where you had 1362 01:44:32.039 --> 01:44:39.680 dozens and dozens and dozens of people run down by a motorist deliberately, but 1363 01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:46.399 he has done nothing, apparently because the motorist was of his political persuasion and 1364 01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:53.640 the people who were victims were Christians, And Joe Biden has no time to 1365 01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:59.359 visit those kinds of people, but he does have time to mark these horrible 1366 01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:04.600 schools shotings. And what are the school shootings? They are truly bizarre activity. 1367 01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:12.479 Now, by the way, as we go into bizarre activity, understand 1368 01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:16.960 what I mean by that. We now live in a country in which there 1369 01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:25.760 is a systematic effort to emasculate American men. Only fifteen to twenty five percent 1370 01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:30.279 of today's young people are fit for military service, would even be inducted into 1371 01:45:30.319 --> 01:45:38.079 the military because they engage in addictive behavior. They engage and they have horrible 1372 01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:42.520 lack of fitness. Many of them are grossly overweighted, yes, grossly obese 1373 01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:48.600 at an excellent point. And not only are they subjected to the addiction of 1374 01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:55.000 drugs, which is now more common than in the past, but these people 1375 01:45:55.239 --> 01:46:00.640 are addicted to something far more dangerous than drugs. You will notice the Uvaldi 1376 01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:06.920 shooting shooter, for example, Salvador Ramos posted three times on Facebook that he 1377 01:46:08.039 --> 01:46:12.359 was about to shoot kids at a school, that he had shot kids at 1378 01:46:12.359 --> 01:46:17.279 a school. I mean, he was seeking the one thing left for people 1379 01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:21.800 to strive for in a godless moral less age, and that is fame. 1380 01:46:23.800 --> 01:46:29.319 Fame for is apparently now interchangeable. Just as you can be famous for being 1381 01:46:29.359 --> 01:46:31.760 a good guy or a bad guy as a movie star, you can be 1382 01:46:31.840 --> 01:46:36.319 famous for being a bad guy in life, yep, for going out and 1383 01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:43.279 actually killing people. Look at these young people. Well, there have been 1384 01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:50.279 two mass shootings where twenty or roughly twenty students were killed faculty members were killed. 1385 01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:56.920 One is, of course, the horror at Uvaldi, which began with 1386 01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:00.880 the killer shooting his grandmother yep, and then going on to shoot students. 1387 01:47:01.479 --> 01:47:10.159 Likewise, at Sandy Hook in Connecticut, Adam Lanza killed his mother, who 1388 01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:15.960 he said, love the students more at Sandy Hook than she did him. 1389 01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:23.279 So in both cases these were strong reactions to the dominant female that these males 1390 01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:29.920 perceived as running their lives. Now why is this important, Well, there 1391 01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:33.600 has been a very recent study you doubtless noted by Professor Paul Zach, the 1392 01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:40.960 director of the Center for neuroeconomic studies at Claremont Graduate University, and what they 1393 01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:45.560 discovered. They're always trying to find are there chemical changes in the human body 1394 01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:53.000 that relate to economic or social behavior, And what they found is that if 1395 01:47:53.039 --> 01:48:00.439 you give today's young men additional testosterone, they shift from being a democrat at 1396 01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:04.920 to Republican. I'm not I'm not saying i'd not seen this study. That's 1397 01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:09.119 that's incredible. This is an amazing study. You must you must find it 1398 01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:14.039 out. Uh. It was actually described as a study on red shift, 1399 01:48:15.039 --> 01:48:19.159 in this case red meaning going to the Red Party the Republicans, but also 1400 01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:27.000 moving away from the red ideology that now dominates his and has hijacked the Democratic 1401 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:34.760 Party. Hmm. It's amazing. So so those are the two major gun 1402 01:48:34.840 --> 01:48:39.399 killings recently, and of course we could go into much more detail. The 1403 01:48:39.479 --> 01:48:46.239 reports that the killer at Uvaldi, for example, war Eyeliner at Valdi at 1404 01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:54.039 Uvaldi uh tended to dress all in black as if he were a member of 1405 01:48:54.039 --> 01:49:00.720 the Marxist terrorist group Antifa. They're all kinds of odds. Things were not 1406 01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:03.239 being told about this. But then we've had to go this long just to 1407 01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:10.000 learn that police may not have been as enthusiastic about going in with force as 1408 01:49:10.039 --> 01:49:15.520 they had been, as we now live in the culture designed to emasculate people. 1409 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:20.279 Indeed, I was talking with my friend Dan Was from Goodgunbadguy dot com 1410 01:49:20.359 --> 01:49:25.880 earlier this evening lull, and I also brought up and he was glad I 1411 01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:31.640 brought it up that Joe Biden has definitely played a role in these school shootings 1412 01:49:32.079 --> 01:49:39.560 because of his introduction of the gun free zones when a Senator in nineteen ninety 1413 01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:44.760 during the Clint administration. And you noticed that all of these infamous school shootings 1414 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:50.960 have occurred after nineteen ninety in this country, we still had as many guns. 1415 01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:57.680 Before nineteen ninety, we still had people who had psychological problems. But 1416 01:49:57.960 --> 01:50:02.279 after nineteen ninety and this this criminal bill that was passed by Joe Biden and 1417 01:50:02.520 --> 01:50:09.760 introducing the gun free zones as in schools and other places, that is when 1418 01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:15.720 the trouble actually began and to ramp up because the people who want to perpetrate 1419 01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:20.319 this kind of evil know that this is a soft target, I mean by 1420 01:50:20.479 --> 01:50:27.399 federal law in many cases. And Rob Elementary in Uvaldi was another one of 1421 01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:31.520 those quote unquote gun free zones like Parkland, was like Columbine was in Colorado. 1422 01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:36.159 And you can look at at the school shootings you know, ever since 1423 01:50:36.239 --> 01:50:44.079 nineteen ninety and the one common tie is the fact that they were designated gun 1424 01:50:44.159 --> 01:50:50.600 freeze zones where teachers, administrators, anyone coming on to campus could not be 1425 01:50:50.720 --> 01:50:58.039 carrying a weapon to protect themselves in the students. And often it's not just 1426 01:50:58.159 --> 01:51:02.039 the school itself, it is distance from the school of the a one thousand 1427 01:51:02.079 --> 01:51:06.600 feet or zone. And the problem being suppose you're an ordinary citizen who just 1428 01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:12.159 wants to take your old twelve gage shotgun from one location in a city to 1429 01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:16.159 another. You don't even know where the schools are. There are private schools, 1430 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:21.960 there are you know, all kinds of potential places classed as schools to 1431 01:51:23.039 --> 01:51:29.720 whom that zone rule applies, but they're not clearly marked. There isn't some 1432 01:51:29.920 --> 01:51:34.800 giant red color on the street or something that says go pass this line and 1433 01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:39.800 you are in a school zone. You're in violation of the gun free zone 1434 01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:44.159 part of that. And so the goal appears to be to make everything in 1435 01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:48.159 the society a gun free zone. But the real fear here, as I 1436 01:51:48.199 --> 01:51:53.439 say, is not just drug addiction. To give you one quote from The 1437 01:51:53.479 --> 01:51:59.600 Atlantic magazine, the United States is experiencing an extreme teenage mental health crisis. 1438 01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:02.600 From two thousand and nine to twenty twenty one, the share of American high 1439 01:52:02.640 --> 01:52:10.760 school students who say they feel persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness rose from twenty 1440 01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:15.560 six percent to forty four percent, according to a new CDC study, a 1441 01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:20.800 government study, this is the highest level of teenage sadness ever recorded. And 1442 01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:26.359 why is it happening? Well, more than anything else, because of those 1443 01:52:26.439 --> 01:52:32.000 little screens we live with, and particularly because of the systems of Facebook now 1444 01:52:32.039 --> 01:52:38.239 called Meta and becoming a virtual reality for all of us and a few others. 1445 01:52:38.279 --> 01:52:42.560 I'll give you some examples of just how frightening that has become as an 1446 01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:49.600 addictive power in our society. All Right, I don't know how many minutes 1447 01:52:49.640 --> 01:52:54.439 we have. We have We have about seven minutes left for this segment, 1448 01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:58.199 and we've got another full half hour. So go on, wonderful, rip 1449 01:52:58.279 --> 01:53:02.439 into it. Baby. So, who owns Meta and Facebook? Or it 1450 01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:06.720 was Facebook, it is now technically meta? Ink Mark Zuckerberg, one of 1451 01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:12.800 the richest people in the world, is the son of a dentist and a 1452 01:53:12.840 --> 01:53:21.920 psychiatrist. So he has combined pain and mind manipulation. He is the man 1453 01:53:21.920 --> 01:53:26.920 who spent more than four hundred million dollars, for example, just to rig 1454 01:53:26.960 --> 01:53:31.920 the election for Democrats in twenty twenty in Wisconsin alone. He finally admitted that 1455 01:53:32.079 --> 01:53:39.239 too after you know, after all the speculation of where was all this money 1456 01:53:39.279 --> 01:53:44.399 coming from, and we know now that that is that is in fact the 1457 01:53:44.439 --> 01:53:49.119 case go ahead. And like so many leftists, he feels entirely able to 1458 01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:57.479 use whatever power or manipulation he has at his hand to change politics, culture, 1459 01:53:57.520 --> 01:54:01.680 and human values in the United States, not by tv AD but by 1460 01:54:01.720 --> 01:54:08.800 literally putting the Democrats in charge of elections directly. This, of course some 1461 01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:15.680 might question is it really democratic, But there it is. And Duckerberg has 1462 01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:21.720 a long history of using Facebook to pry into people's lives, to accumulate vast 1463 01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:27.520 amounts of information about every one of us, even if we're not Facebook members, 1464 01:54:29.359 --> 01:54:32.840 the kind of information that he was doing first at Harvard as a student, 1465 01:54:34.520 --> 01:54:40.039 when he would laugh at students and say, fools them, they trust 1466 01:54:40.119 --> 01:54:45.119 me, dumb, and then he used an F word variety. But he 1467 01:54:45.199 --> 01:54:50.079 is not a tremendous fan of people who are willing to be manipulated by him, 1468 01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:57.920 and they are indeed manipulated. That's the ominous thing. In the fall 1469 01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:02.600 of twenty seventeen, Facebooks for President Sean Parker gave an interview to Axios in 1470 01:55:02.640 --> 01:55:10.359 which he admitted that Facebook can override the free will of its users. The 1471 01:55:10.399 --> 01:55:16.439 product is literally addictive. It was engineered to be that way, so work 1472 01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:23.560 hold on so work. Tobacco companies sued because they knew that nicotine was addictive, 1473 01:55:23.600 --> 01:55:27.680 even though they told the public that it wasn't. And you know, 1474 01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:32.439 the funny thing about nicotine is that technically it is not addictive. This is 1475 01:55:32.439 --> 01:55:38.840 a debate I used to have as the science editor at Breeders Digest, where 1476 01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:44.119 we were very very critical cigarettes. But technically, for a substance to be 1477 01:55:44.199 --> 01:55:49.159 addictive, you need an ever increasing dose of it. And what happens with 1478 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:54.960 most smokers is they get up to pack and a half two packs a day 1479 01:55:55.359 --> 01:56:00.319 and they just stop. Yeah, they don't need an ever increasing Do they 1480 01:56:00.319 --> 01:56:05.159 get enough satisfaction from that amount of nicotine and related chemicals? Yeah, are 1481 01:56:05.199 --> 01:56:11.079 more than four thousand chemicals every time you puff on a cigarette. I will 1482 01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:15.680 tell you that when I was an active cigarette smoker and I was for gosh, 1483 01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:20.079 almost forty years little I. Yeah, you're right. I mean I 1484 01:56:20.079 --> 01:56:24.720 could smoke a pack and a half, two packs a day, no problem. 1485 01:56:25.119 --> 01:56:28.840 But no, I didn't want anymore after that particular point, and it 1486 01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:32.840 did not become an increasing kind of habit for me. So yeah, I'm 1487 01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:36.560 agreeing with the research that is pointing out what you're saying. And so it 1488 01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:42.560 was not. And so you might ask, if not we know that people 1489 01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:46.159 get hooked on cigarettes yep, or on nicotine, how is that to be 1490 01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:50.880 described If technically it's not addictive because it doesn't even ever increasing dose, right, 1491 01:56:51.159 --> 01:56:58.680 it is to be defined as severely habituating. Okay, that's the only 1492 01:56:58.720 --> 01:57:03.680 difference. And this is where technically these cigarette executives were telling the truth when 1493 01:57:03.720 --> 01:57:09.520 they said, no, our product is not addictive. It creates an addiction 1494 01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:14.199 of kai of a sort, but it's not technically classed as an addiction. 1495 01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:21.479 So that's one of those little but you have to understand they put together Facebook 1496 01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:30.560 to program the people using it in a way as Ramsey Brown, co founder 1497 01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:38.279 of the firm called Dopamine Labs, describes as giving people a little hit of 1498 01:57:38.399 --> 01:57:45.560 dopamine, that is it deliberately uses techniques to elicit dopamine bursts in the brain. 1499 01:57:46.680 --> 01:57:53.039 And what that means is that Facebook alters the brain. Wow. And 1500 01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:56.560 if you think and if you think what you are seeing is bad, now, 1501 01:57:56.960 --> 01:58:00.680 wait till it's meta. Wait till that's your old alternative reality where you 1502 01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:05.399 live twenty hours. Yay, it's just spine chilling to think about that. 1503 01:58:05.479 --> 01:58:10.640 Lol. Listen, we need to take a break for this half hour and 1504 01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:15.119 we'll come back and close out. We'll continue this line of conversation and maybe 1505 01:58:15.199 --> 01:58:18.479 get into a couple of more things before we're done. Tonight, it's Memorial 1506 01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:25.680 Day evening. This is the night Cap, and this hour is designated dedicated 1507 01:58:26.239 --> 01:58:31.079 to you and to the great Lol Ponte. As we continue on seven hundred WLW,