WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.040 Welcome to the nonprofits. Our second story this week comes from the lone Star 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:08.800 state where the educational system may be losing some of its shine. Texas Education 3 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:15.400 Commissioner Mike Morath introduced a new elementary reading curriculum that includes Bible stories emphasizing Judeo 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:21.800 Christian traditions. Democratic Representative James Tallerico criticized its Christian focus and lack of attention 5 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:26.760 to other religions, arguing that it marginalizes many Texans. The curriculum, part 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:32.079 of a classical education model, integrates ancient texts like the Bible to build students 7 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:38.119 cultural vocabulary, which Morath claims is crucial for tackling complex subjects. Later critics, 8 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:43.320 including scholars and former education officials, argue that it presents a Christian bias 9 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:49.039 history and neglects other faiths and significant historical movements like the Enlightenment. They warrant 10 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:54.640 of potential First Amendment violations and the challenges teachers might face in discussing religious content 11 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:58.840 appropriately. Supporters, however, see it as a move towards a more rigorous 12 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:03.640 education, with so conservatives even dismissing concerns about the biblical emphasis. The story 13 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:08.120 is from the seventy four by Linda Jacobson on June seventh, twenty twenty four. 14 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.680 So let's go straight to Helen here. Proponents of these changes claim that 15 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.920 they're focusing on improving education. Right, that's the big, the big banner 16 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.959 here, we're making education better in Texas. What are some of the areas 17 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:26.879 these changes are intended to address. So basically, what they're doing under the 18 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:32.920 guise of you know, promoting you know, higher reading scores, educational scores 19 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:40.200 for you know, the K through five group of you know of the Texas 20 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:46.799 you know school Texas schools, Populous is basically introducing curriculum that will introduce biblical 21 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:53.480 study and to the curriculum to raise scores and using this as a as a 22 00:01:53.560 --> 00:02:01.280 as a as an excuse to raise the standard levels for the student body in 23 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:07.520 the state of Texas. Now, I got some problems. I know, 24 00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:12.439 weird, Okay, listen. I like the line the Witch in the Wardrobe 25 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.080 as much as anybody else. It's it's when I was, you know, 26 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.719 ten years old, it was a wonderful fantasy story. It's it's fine, 27 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:27.400 But when you automatically admit that mare did that is biblical algory. And then 28 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:37.319 you are encouraging biblical study in children. I have some problems because why aren't 29 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:40.080 we studying other acts of literature? Why are we studying law at the rinks? 30 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:46.319 Why aren't you having kids read other classics works of literature? You know 31 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:50.879 that I remember reading when I was a young and back in the eighties and 32 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:55.479 nineties in you know, public education, where we are looking more at the 33 00:02:55.479 --> 00:03:00.240 literacy level and using what educators do to say, like, you know, 34 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:04.960 this is for this particular age group. You know, this is a reading 35 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:10.159 level that it is, and they gauge what child based on the literature that 36 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:15.000 is being presented, to gauge what the reading level is, regardless of context. 37 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:20.280 Now, I have no problem with the Bible of being taught in schools, 38 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:25.120 but as a in a like you know, history of religion, you 39 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:30.199 know, as a you know, guy, not a guidebook, but like 40 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:36.639 a book about religious beliefs and histories of the people that lived at that time, 41 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:43.039 not as truth. And they're trying to slide this in not as an 42 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.120 educational in text to get these kids, you know, pumped up for Jesus 43 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:51.800 and drink the Jesus juice right exactly. And that's the problem so you think 44 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:53.599 so, So Aaron, let's let's hop over to you for a second. 45 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:58.439 Helen is saying that maybe, yes, it's it's a noble goal to try 46 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:02.000 to include, try to increase their their standards for these students. But these 47 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:08.520 are some drastic changes and it calls into question whether or not the new material 48 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:12.719 should be religious material. Do you think this kind of thing is appropriate for 49 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.800 K five curriculum? Absolutely, the way it's described this article, absolutely not. 50 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:20.160 I'm fine with teaching the Bible that it exists and that they are religious 51 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:23.879 that believe it, and maybe so that some of the history around it, 52 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.720 but teaching the doctrines that are in it absolute this is this is not okay. 53 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.399 And my main objection is because children believe what adults tell them, and 54 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.199 especially the younger younger child is, the more they're going to trust and believe 55 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:39.759 what people, what adults say. And it's really easy to take advantage of 56 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:42.040 young kids and get them to believe what you want them to believe. They're 57 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:45.120 like little sponges. They're really easy to indoctrinate. And so when you start 58 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.800 teaching the from the Bible, not teaching about teaching from the Bible, what 59 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:53.959 you're doing is you're implicitly teaching that the Bible is true, that it should 60 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.920 be accepted, and that you should follow what's in it and that. So 61 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.199 that's that's my fundamental problem with with what's going on here. Uh, what 62 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.319 we teach kids needs to be secular and evidence based. That makes it as 63 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:08.680 true as possible, and it also makes it as inclusive as possible. If 64 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:12.360 we were to change this curriculum a little bit and maybe teach things from the 65 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:16.800 Quran and Karan adjacent t jings, I don't think it would be getting the 66 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:20.720 support that it's gonna that it's getting in Texas. Are you sure about that? 67 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.639 In the Kuran big in Texas, I mean everything big in Texas. 68 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:29.399 I'm not a prophet. I'm not a prophet, but I'm pretty sure that 69 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:33.680 would that be resoundingly uh struck down. All right, Well, let's let's 70 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:40.319 jump over to Jason for a second, because these curriculum changes just reek of 71 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:44.800 religious and political influence in here. If we were to put on our GOP 72 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.199 colored glasses, how would this look to us? What what do you see 73 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:53.399 here? So? Look, this is this is a dense article did just 74 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:58.000 for one so I encourage anybody who's who's watching or listening to really go back 75 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.519 and read through this article. Theres a lot of information. But look, 76 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.240 the Texas GOP had already released their mission statement a few years back. Uh 77 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:08.720 so, a renewed, revised one. So this drive for preaching Christianity in 78 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:12.160 public classroom is not surprising to me in the least. It's exactly what they 79 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.360 said they were going to do. And it's crazy. Guy. I took 80 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.959 some notes, you know, from their own platform statement on their own website. 81 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:24.360 Let's hear it. Look, look, okay, So the problem I 82 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:26.920 have here, my little preamble I have here, is that the ship that 83 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:33.199 they're promoting is anti scientific. It's it is been shown to these views and 84 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:39.519 ideas and instituting things based on these views and ideas increase harm. You know, 85 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:42.600 they decrease well being. We see this time and time again. So 86 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.920 and their language they're using as traitorous and treason us. So to me, 87 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.800 it's just disgusting all around, all right. So before before I go on 88 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:54.639 and on, so okay, they have they have a section of there called 89 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.879 family and defensive Marriage. We support the definition of marriage as a quote God 90 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:03.560 ordained Eagle and moral commitment only between one natural man and one natural woman. 91 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.240 Yeah, that's a fucking that church state separation. No, I mean, 92 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:12.319 come on, So they want to overturn oberg Fell versus Hodges, which is 93 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.759 same sex marriage. They said, we believe this decision overturning into Texas law 94 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:19.639 prohibiting same sex marriage in Texas has no basis in the Constitution. It should 95 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:26.360 be reversed. They go on to say, homosexuality is a chosen behavior contrary 96 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:29.839 to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God in the Bible, 97 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:32.920 recognized by our nation's founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. 98 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:36.920 Which is insane to me because I live in fucking Houston, Texas, and 99 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.319 the street I used to live on in the fucking middle of Houston, Texas 100 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.680 was painted with rainbows. We have one of the biggest pride parades in the 101 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.759 world, if not the biggest pride parade in the world, and we make 102 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.959 up a good amount of the population of fucking Texas. So what they're saying 103 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:54.480 is a fucking lie. We are a very queer city that have had openly 104 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:59.120 queer people in charge, and I just dit So yeah, fuck him, 105 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.560 what else, whoever wrote this and anybody you know, whatever. So we're 106 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.160 right to life, all innocent human Listen to the language in this right here, 107 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.920 okay, here it is abolish abortion. We call upon the Texas legislature 108 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:18.040 to enact legislation stopping the murder of unborn children. These are people who understand 109 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.319 the gravity of that term in a legal sense, and they're fucking have the 110 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.079 audacity to use it here. It's disgusting funding. We support the elimation of 111 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:31.240 public funding or use of public funding facilities advocate, perform, or support elective 112 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:37.320 abortions as terrible. We support completely eliminating public funding for planned parenthood abortion legislation. 113 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.720 They go on and on prohibition of abortion due to results of a genetic 114 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:46.000 diagnosis. I mean, are you fucking kidding me? This is heartless shit. 115 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.399 And the thing that blows my mind is that, And again I'm not 116 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.639 saying this is suain. What really boils way if you look at the demographics 117 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.639 of the people who are voting for people who support this type of bullshit. 118 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.360 These are people who need these services. These are working class people. These 119 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.120 are people who are suffering because of lack of these services, a lack of 120 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:11.879 their availability. It blows my mind, because what blows my mind is anybody 121 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:18.399 being surprised that this is happening because they issue this statement and they went full 122 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.080 force, and all the people behind it here into that being a textant. 123 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.279 This pisses me off because this doesn't represent me, This doesn't represent the majority 124 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.159 of Texans. So I'm sorry. I could ran on and on about this. 125 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.519 All I'm saying is this is not a surprise, and it's another way 126 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:37.279 that the Republicans and conservative people and other people the right wing, they played 127 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:39.559 the long game and they've been whittling away and doing it in their fucking faces. 128 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.159 Sorry, no, it was It was interesting hearing you talk about all 129 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.240 that. I love it. I think all that information needs to get out. 130 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:50.200 But I think if we look at like neurology and the evolution of our 131 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:56.159 brain and our nervous system, we know that our thinking processes rely heavily on 132 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:58.799 language, and so this might be a way that you know, they can 133 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.559 get in early and control the language. We heard a lot of that language 134 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.960 and what you were saying when you were quoting from their from their platform, 135 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.840 and so if you if you control the language, if you control the schools 136 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:16.519 that are teaching the language that they said specifically that they wanted to uh that 137 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.600 they wanted to build. They wanted to make a foundation that they could build 138 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.720 on in other in other subjects, and and so so that's definitely getting in 139 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.919 at the ground floor. Helen, let's jump to you for a second. 140 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.320 We just heard Jason talk about the GOP and how these changes fit into their 141 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.120 over overall political agenda. What if we step back and look at it from 142 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:41.360 the perspective of separation and church of state. What are some of the specific 143 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:45.039 problems that are we're seeing with these changes. Well, as a natural born 144 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.960 woman and as a person that makes all the fun choices, I guess I'm 145 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:56.879 stuff to say, so rich there is this is now. I know that 146 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.440 my fel Panels and all of you that watch the show are very intelligent people. 147 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:07.639 I know that you're selling religious bias all over the fucking place with this, 148 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:16.720 because though they say they're going to have equal time for other religions to 149 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.480 be taught under the same umbrella, because we're raising reading standards and everybody, 150 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.840 we're not. We're not preaching religious doctor and a week that much. So 151 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:33.080 I have some quibbles because if you actually read this article and what the GOP 152 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:37.039 is saying, no, they have no intention of allowing you know, the 153 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:43.200 Quran to be taught or the Tora, or you know, anything in like 154 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.840 Hindi text or even like can we do some origins of species maybe that'd be 155 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:52.679 fine. You know, you don't see any of this is all based on 156 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:58.399 Bigiblical curriculum. It is using the Bible and saying that, oh no, 157 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.200 we're just going to raise reading levels, We're gonn to teach it as an 158 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:07.559 academic you know, as a part of an academic curriculum, not as something 159 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.120 that should be taking this truth. But they're talking out both sides of their 160 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:16.720 mouths because, as Jason pointed out, this is a lie. It's a 161 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.960 lie. But that's the story that they're spinning. And for people that you 162 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.600 know, don't have access to certain types of education, education, this information, 163 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:33.960 you know, people that aren't you know, they're voting with their feelings, 164 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:39.039 not with what is actually a part of what is being presented to the 165 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.759 school board. Like because if you are a you know, someone that believes 166 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.200 in God, isn't against other religions, you know, just you know, 167 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.720 live and live, and they go to church. But they're not educated on 168 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.799 the subtext of this. They're going to say, oh, you know, 169 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.639 Oh, they're teaching the Bible as you know, a part of the literacy 170 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.080 program. Oh they're going to give equal time to other religions. Oh that's 171 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.320 good. You know, that's not happening. It is spinning the story to 172 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.200 get those people that are not going to think about it anything deeper. They 173 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.480 are not going to look at the legislation. Now, look at what they're 174 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.759 presenting to get them in the voting booth. Right, So it's almost like, 175 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.200 don't pay attention to what's going on behind the curtain over there. It's 176 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:24.720 all good, it's all in the Nate. We're just improving the educational system. 177 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.759 Aaron I wanted to jump over to you for a second. There was 178 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:35.240 there're some financial enticements that are involved with these changes that's being offered for districts 179 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.799 that will embrace the new curriculum. What do you think that says about those 180 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.480 changes, The fact that they're offering cash for that, How do you think 181 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:45.759 that What kind of picture do you think that paints. Yeah, they're offering 182 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:50.919 sixty bucks a student for any district that will start using this curriculum, and 183 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.600 that really shows me that they don't have a leg to stand on that the 184 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.679 only way they know they can really get this into schools is to entice people 185 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:03.039 with money that if they just presented it to the schools, the schools will 186 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.639 say, well, no, we're not going to teach religion in our schools 187 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.200 were a public school. But as soon as the attached attached money to it, 188 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.600 well, of course the schools now they have to say yes, because 189 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.639 our schools are funded awfully horribly in this in this country, we do not 190 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:24.720 give schools and teachers the money that they need to educate our kids properly and 191 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.960 appropriately. And so this is on its face, it's just it's a bribe, 192 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.240 is what it is to me. It's just a bribe to school districts 193 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:37.759 to adopt this curriculum that everybody knows is it should has nothing has should not 194 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.120 be in public schools, right right, yeah, I agree completely. Let's 195 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.480 look for let's look at the Supreme Court for a second. Here. We 196 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:50.480 currently have a pretty conservative, well very conservative US Supreme Court, and we're 197 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:54.279 we're facing the possibility of becoming even more conservative over the next few years. 198 00:14:54.320 --> 00:15:00.960 So if the public school change, public school curriculum changes like these are enacted 199 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:07.480 without challenge or worse, are enshrined into constitutional law. How will that affect 200 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.120 the education of our children in the United States, in Texas and the United 201 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.600 States as a whole, in our place in the world. Let's go to 202 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.759 Jason first there. What do you if this gets pushed maybe pushed to the 203 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.960 Supreme Court and the Supreme Court says thumbs up. I mean, we're kind 204 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:22.480 of stuck with it. What is that? How is that going to affect 205 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:26.720 us? And as we move on, well to to answer your question, 206 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.120 but kind of but not, but kind of. We see the same shit 207 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.720 going on in Florida right now, right We did a story about this recently 208 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:43.679 about DeSantis incentivizing teachers directly to take part in education type programs about you know, 209 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:46.919 with religious fundamentalist stuff. You know. So we're seeing a general push 210 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:52.159 of this kind of across the board with these hyper conservative states. So I 211 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:58.879 say that to say that I don't think that it's not not a calculated move. 212 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:02.679 Like it's obvious that the people are talking together and organizing these things, 213 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.440 and you see a lot of the stuff, like the pro voucher stuff here 214 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:10.120 in Texas being funded by people from Philadelphia or Pennsylvania. So there's a whole 215 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.600 thing going on. So that said, sorry, Whenever it does go to 216 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:18.960 the Supreme Court, and if it does pass, I think we're gonna see 217 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.159 the same type of broad, quick sweeping change that we saw with Roe v. 218 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:27.120 Wade. I think it's I think it's just gonna fucking hit like right 219 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:33.720 then and there there's people waiting right now who use Texas and Florida as more 220 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.039 or less they're bully big brothers, right, They're like, let's see if 221 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.320 they can get away with this shit first, and if these motherfuckers can get 222 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:44.519 away with it, we're going to slip on in right behind them. Because 223 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:48.600 Texas and Florida have huge influence on the United States and the policies here Texas 224 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:53.279 especially, it's like a country within a country. So I think that if 225 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:59.480 this does pass, and this ship in Florida starts passing and this starts becoming 226 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.039 normalized, we're going to see the same thing happened with Roe v. Wade, 227 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.559 And we're going to see a very dramatic shift in education in the more 228 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.079 conservative states, and we're going to see a lot of violations of church state 229 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:14.480 separation, right, Helen, did you want to jump in on this sound 230 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.839 like you wanted to? Oh yeah, I got opinns all right, because 231 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:23.440 also the article mentions of the issues of both sides of debate and goes into 232 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:32.720 the actual that this is kind of racist, which is something that which goes 233 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:37.240 because what happens is is that if you only have one type of education, 234 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:44.440 you are limiting access for all people to get access to different information, but 235 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:52.480 especially in white run schools for people of color, if you're only giving them 236 00:17:52.880 --> 00:18:00.519 one thing, where people that our white have might have better access to money 237 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:06.119 to upper education versus you know, a poor person of color, They're not 238 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:10.720 going to have the same opportunities. And I really wanted to mention this. 239 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.359 We are recording this on Jane teenth, so I didn't want to be remased 240 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:19.640 on how like this will affect, you know, people of color, especially 241 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:26.319 in the state of Texas, where Martin Luther King points to from when he 242 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.839 wrote the letters to Burringham, Jill placed the fifth graders to Martin Luther King, 243 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:36.880 this that some of the criculum points to, you know, the marking 244 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.119 to oh my god, I can use words King, Martin Luther King to 245 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.759 use biblical allusions, including the persecution of early Christians and Jews who refuse to 246 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:51.799 worship false idols, but it ignores King's intended audience, white moderate preachers who 247 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:57.720 have never felt the sting darts of segregation darted. King's focus was the incompatibility 248 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:03.240 of racial segregation with Judeo Christian values in the Christian faith. So Bryanman Pierce, 249 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:08.920 President CEO of the Southern Education Foundation, a non profit focus on equity, 250 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:15.640 because this is also quote mining, where white evangelicals will use King and 251 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:22.119 other black leaders to support a position that they want to hold. So this 252 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.160 is another thing that also leads into the racial equality that's already happening in schools, 253 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.000 and this is just going to intensify it. Yeah, I mean, 254 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:34.960 one of the one of the important best practices I guess we would say in 255 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:41.839 the education system is diversity. If students can if students can find personal connections 256 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:45.920 and personal can relate personally to the content, they're much more likely to be 257 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.079 successful. They're much more likely to become a better reader, to become a 258 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.960 better math student, to become a better science student. If they can see 259 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:57.279 their own faces in the dialogue. Then there it makes them more interested in 260 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:02.359 the dialogue. And I think that anything if we're if we're going to be 261 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:07.559 concentrating things to just the Christian perspective, just the religious perspective, just the 262 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:10.880 white man's perspective, and that kind of thing. Anytime we do anything like 263 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:15.039 that, it's just it can't help but decrease the quality of the education that 264 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.079 we're going to see. And then of course that's the opposite of the main 265 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.559 goal. You know, they start out by by uh uh, you know, 266 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:26.839 cheering on how they're gonna how they're going to increate improve the educational system, 267 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:30.400 and then they're doing steps that are doing the exact opposite of that. 268 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.920 Aaron, I want to give you a chance for a last thought here before 269 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:37.480 we wrap this up here, any anything, any takeaway you want to give 270 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.680 us here today. Yeah. I think the root of all these changes is 271 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:47.359 fear. People are trying to push religion down other people's throats because religion doesn't 272 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:52.359 hold up to modern day scrutiny, scrutiny to modern day morals, to modern 273 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.400 day scientific methods, to modern day skepticism, and so people are scared of 274 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.240 the religion, so they have to throw it. They have to put it 275 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.240 into schools, and they have to scram it down, shove it down your 276 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:10.960 throat. And it's because they're scared of actually facing the problems in their religion. 277 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.240 Right, just like what you were saying before about the sixty dollars a 278 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:17.920 student, right, if it was, if the curriculum was good, it 279 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:21.720 would sell itself. And so it seems like this is kind of a last 280 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.400 ditch effort to force all of that onto the plates.