All right, we have to talk about it. I've wait, wait,
I want to read you a quote, and I want you to tell me
who wrote it. Okay, his behavior has become adversarial and aggressive instead of
professional and curious courteous. I do know who said that? Who said that?
The Great Daryl Hall correct ding ding ding ding and what I But what
I is shocking to me is who he said it about. Yeah, that's
the hard part, the great John Oates. This took me by surprise,
Like I didn't see this coming in any way, shape or form. I
thought they were still toring together. Yeah, they apparently they last toured in
twenty twenty one. I think I honestly didn't realize that they'd gone there.
Yeah, this is bizarre. Yeah, it's like, uh, you know,
watching this happen with of course, Daryl Hall versus John Oates. It's
not Daryl Hall and John Oates anymore. It's Daryl Hall versus John Oates.
Yes, you know, it's it's reading reading this and reading these articles and
these quotes of them sniping at each other. It's like some of you might
relate to this. It's like to me, it's like Lyne and bed at
night. And hearing my parents argue. You know, for those of you
who've experienced that when you're a kid, how awful that is. It's like
that. It feels like that this all went forward and said, it appears
to me that John Oates intent has become to burden and harass me without regard
to my interests, as he has excuse me as his business partner or the
interest of woe. Woe of course is whole Oates. Is it enterprises,
yes, yes, whole Oates. Yes, because they had an album Hollowoats
had an album named whole Oates, which that was very early in their career,
and they chose that title with no apparent sense of cringe. It was
clever, No, it's clever. As a lifelong fan of Darryl holland John
Oates, I am almost as horrified at the fact that there exists an album
called whole Oats as I am at the fact that they are getting this what
Darryl Hall is termed a global divorce. Global because the whole world is talking
about this, and uh, it's very upsetting. You should have called it
holloats hau just like one word why stop? Because I thought it was funny
Oh, I think holl Oats is clever. I don't I do. Uh
Now, So part of what is so surprising about well, okay, I've
been paying attention to uh to a. This is not let me put it
this way, the fact that there's some sort of issue between them, which
there clearly is, and and it seems to be business based, a professional
business disagreement that seems to have become personal. But there's there's much that we
still don't know. But the fact that there is any issue at all is
not completely surprising to me. And I'll tell you why, and I haven't
Uh, I'm gonna just make up some observations that I've heard other people sort
of hint at, but nothing. I'm gonna go a little deeper on this
because hopefully you're all as fascinated by the drama of Daryl Hall and JOHNO says,
I am. But a word for that, the that the youth has
yeah, spilling the tea, Oh, spilling the tea. I'm supposed to
be gossip now, right, right or not? What do you call it?
I don't know. I I well, I don't drink tea, but
if I if I did, I would spill it because I'm clumsy, but
uh so I suppose this is apropos which I think the young people also say
that. I think I DJ reckless saying that. The other day he said
something about, oh, that's very apropos So the young the young, the
young people say that as well. I believe I have observed over the past
five or six years that Daryl Hall has low key. They young people definitely
say that has low key been disparaging John Oates subtly and just a little bit
here and there. Now people who have been following this closely. Everyone refers
to the Bill Maher podcast where Daryl Hall was on Club Random. This was
like, I don't know, five six months ago, he was on Bill
Maher's podcast and Bill Maher brings up, you know, he's he's talking to
Daryl Hall about his career and you know, whether uh they're gonna make new
music or they're just gonna keep touring on the hits and whatnot. And uh,
Bill Maher said something to him about in terms of his decision making.
He said something about, well, but you have a partner, to which
uh, Darryl Hall quickly replied, you think John Oates is my partner?
No, he's he's we're business partners. He's not my creative partner. And
Bill Marri's reaction is like, WHOA, what have I stepped in here?
And Daryl Hall goes on to say that, uh, they're not they're not
creative partners, and uh, they're they're strictly business partners. And yes they
made records together called Hall and Oates, but uh, but that doesn't mean
but but even even on the records, they're very separate, and people are
people are pointing to that, and and did at the time saying why is
he why is he talking about John that way? He's he's making it sound
like he's basically Daryl's basically making himself sound like a solo artist, and like
John Oates is just kind of this hanger on, kind of the Andrew Ridgley
to Daryl's George Michaels and or is it George Michael and you know, uh,
and and then he kind of cleans it up a little bit later in
the podcast because Bill Maher comes back to it and says, well, you
know, when you're a fan of people, you want you want the people
you like to like each other. And at that point, Daryl clarifies,
and he says, and keep in mind, this is before the lawsuit.
Daryl says, oh, no, no, I do like John. We're
friends. We're just we're not We're just not creative partners like people think we
are. John's really being very verbal too. He's going out and talking to
everybody. He told the Los Angeles Trimes. Everything you do is just opposed
against another person. Try doing that sometime. I don't want to use the
word emasculating, because that's mail, but it takes away your individuality. I
thought it was Daryl who said that. No, that was Hall Hall,
Darryl Hall. No, Hall, right, yeah, Daryl said that.
Daryl Hall. What did I say? You said? John Oates, Oh,
I'm sorry. Yeah. John isn't saying as much as Daryl. Well,
so Darrel is Daryl is going, That's what I meant. Darryl is
he's talking to everybody I kept well from everybody. That's that's pre lawsuit.
Yeah, so Daryl, Well, that's what I mean. Though. Darryl
for a while now, for about five or six years, has been trying
to kind of distance himself. And I have a theory about this, and
I found I found a podcast that Daryl was on. This was a while
ago, This was a couple of years ago. I found a podcast interview
that because you know, neither of these guys really do a ton of interviews,
but I found one from a number of years ago where Darryl kind of
strongly implied that some of those songs that are credited where both he and John
are credited as songwriters, it was really mostly Darryl and that they were never
creative equals and that it's more of a ninety ten partnership. So he's been
kind of disparaging John for a while. My understanding is the big thing about
this, this is all about creative control over their names, their music,
things of that nature. But prior to this lawsuit, Oates already sold a
good chunk of his they both did together, So there's a third already sold
off part of their publishing. So in it's this company, Prime Primary Wave.
I think Hall is afraid that if Oates sells his to this third party,
now some third party has controlling ownership over their entire catalog, their name,
their everything. Well not only that, but according to Daryl Hall's attorneys,
part of what is in their their business agreement is there's a confidentiality.
In other words, Darryl is claiming that John violated this confidentiality agreement by showing
the business agreement that they have within Whole Oats Enterprises. It's hard for me
to even say that Hole oates the by showing their agreement to Primary Wave,
because you're not supposed to do that. So, uh, you're not supposed
to do that without Hall approving it. And of them can do that without
the other approving it, which seems to be why the judge has gone ahead
and put a pause on the sale. But Darryl. The thing about Darryl
is I have long held a theory, especially when I noticed Darryl I noticed
something Geez. I noticed this years and years ago. In fact, there
is an album, I think it's Do It for Love, which was the
last full length studio album of all original material that Hall and Oates has ever
put out, And I remember looking Jesus must have been this was like fifteen
years ago. It's been a long time since they put out an original because
Daryl has said they don't have anything to say together creatively. They've put out
solo albums, but the last studio album they put out, you know,
I love to look at liner notes if it's an artist that I'm really interested
in, and like I said, I'm a big fan. And I remember
looking at the liner notes and there's a section where, you know, Darryl
thanks. You know you'll see that in albums. Darryl thanks these people,
and John thanks these people. And I notice in the section where it says
Darryl thanks, he says something like I want to thank my musical team,
and then he and then he lists off all these these names, and I
noticed. I remember thinking, that's interesting. I want to thank my musical
team and not our musical team. That's a good point. And I remember
noticing that. And and I think, if you looked at the part where
John thanks everybody, he actually mentions Daryl. But it's like Daryl never mentions
John. My longstanding theory has been that, uh and forgive the pop psychology
here, but I think Darryl resents I think he resents John Oates because I
think Darryl likes to think of himself as a solo artist. I think that's
part of why he started Live at Darrel's House, which is a great series.
I love, you know, I can I can get lost in watching
those online. But I think that I think that Daryl has always seen himself
that way, and I think he kind of resents, you know, when
he does when he's done solo albums, Like I remember when I was a
kid, he released a solo album called Three Hearts. In The Happy Ending
Machine. There's a song called dream Time, which was the first single,
which was a pretty big hit, but not on the scale necessarily of of
what Hall and Oates has accomplished. Hall and Oates together, they're the biggest
selling duo in pop history, and I think Darryl kind of resents being tied
to John in that way. That's so sad, Yeah it is. But
that's my theory why because even in interviews I remember, uh recently, I
saw an interview that had resurfaced from a couple of years ago where Daryl Hall
is talking about Primary Wave owning the publishing on a lot of their their material,
and he refers to it as my material. He doesn't say our material.
He says, I don't like I don't like this company that you know,
it seemed like a good idea at the time, but I don't like
them owning all of my material. You know. It's just he tends to
talk like that. He tends to refer to and it hasn't always been that
way. Of course, back in the day it wasn't that way. But
I've noticed that over the past five or six years, he he almost talks
about himself, you know, unless John's name happens to come up, like
he's a solo artist. The other thing I will say is Darryl. Don't
get me wrong, I love Daryl Hall, huge fan of his music,
and the show Live at Darrel's House is great and everything, but he has
a reputation for being a little bit of a diva, whereas John Oates has
a reputation for just being the salt of the earth. The only person I've
ever seen say anything negative about John Oates is Daryl Hall. In recent days,
since this lawsuit was filed. Other than that, nobody's ever said a
bad thing about John Oates. I also wonder is there some resentment on Darryl's
part, because Darryl, if you hear him now, he can't sing like
he used to. And that's fine. He's seventy seven years old and your
voice changes. But John Oates, if you go online, let me put
it this way, if you go online and you listen to Darryl Hall singing
recently, you might notice a change. He still sounds great, don't get
me wrong, He's one of the greatest singers ever. But he still sounds
really good. Can't take that away from him, but you can tell does
a change. Right. But if you go online and you find a show
of a recent if you find a video of a recent John Oates show,
John Oates sounds incredible. And I remember finding a YouTube video of John Oates
singing out of Touch, you know, the song out of Touch, of
John Oates singing it at one of his solo shows, and somebody in the
Uh it was like somebody read my mind because somebody in the comments. I
don't usually bother to look at the comments, but for some reason on that
one I did. Somebody actually comment on the video. Wow, John sings
better than Darryl now he used to be the other way around. And uh
so, I wonder if Darryl resents John for that too, because John's John's
voice has clearly not diminished, whereas Darryl's has, and Hall is actually actively
touring as a solo act. They both are, Yeah, they both are
well. Oates, Hall accuses Oates of intentionally trying to sell this stuff now
to disrupt and make his life difficult. I saw that he's doing this.
He's creating on necessity. He said, uh not to mention unnecessary expense and
burden during a time when I'm in the middle of a tour through the US
West Coast, Japan and Manila, Manila, and need to focus and perform
at a top level. I believe that John Oates timed the unauthorized transaction to
create the most harm to me. Respectfully, he must be stopped from this
latest wrongdoing and his malicious conduct reined in once then for all. Wow wow,
wow, No, that's hard. We think these guys went to college
together, they met at Temple University, they became a band of the nineteen
seventies. All this time, but they haven't done anything in nearly two nearly
two decades from what I've been reading up as far as like doing anything more,
it's been well, they tour, they've they've toured together. The last
time they actually put anything out together was It's been nearly twenty years since they've
done that. But it's sad to see this long relationship devolve into this.
But I can't blame I'm I'm kind of in camp haul here because I can't
blame him for not wanting a third party to have controlling interest of his work,
right, you know, of their work. I can see why that
would be. Really, I mean, what happens if they do it?
Could Hall legally be prohibited from playing music? No, No, it doesn't
work that way, but it would be. The Thing is, when somebody
else owns your publishing, the publishing rights to your music, and it's a
big subject and I don't know all the ins and outs of it. I
only know a little bit, but they decide how it's used. So let's
say, whoever owns your publishing, they want to sell your song to a
car company to use in their commercial. Well, if you, as the
artist who wrote and recorded that song, you know, if you own your
publishing, you have a right to, you know, do whatever you want
with it. But if somebody else owns your publishing, they have a right
to do whatever they want with it. Yep, some of these artists who
are selling their publishing. Springsteen did it. Neil Young did it. Neil
Young claimed, though in his interview you on Howard Stern that when he sold
off his publishing because you know they're cashing out. They're getting huge sums of
huge lump sums of money to sell off their publishing. Neil Young claims that
in his agreement, I think it was Neil Young who said this, or
maybe it was David Crosby before he died, said that in their agreement they
still have veto power over how their music is used, although that's not how
it's supposed to work. So I wonder if that was I wondered if that
was true. But yeah, so Darryl might be concerned about how their music
is going to be used. And and uh, if if it's true that
John Oates violated that confidentiality agreement, then that's a problem. Absolutely. I
tend to be on team Oates though, team John because uh well, first
of all, the mustache, oh come on, truly one of the great
mustache no, listen, listen, that is John Oates in the eighties.
For you, you young gus who might not know, you'll have to go
back and look. Go to Google images, type in John Oates. He
had a mustache that rivaled Tom Selleck. Uh who else? It is a
very Wilford Brimley. Yes, yes, it is not a reason, I
do not believe. And it inspired and it inspired a cartoon J Stash.
Really yeah, I don't real, No, for real, there's a if
you if you go on YouTube and look up J Stash, it's really funny.
Is it just the Stash or is he his body? It's a whole
thing. You gotta you gotta see it. It's really funny. When you
had a chance, go on YouTube and look up J Stash cartoon. It's
really funny. It's really funny. Yeah, it was. It was a
whole thing, and he was involved in it. He provided the voice for
it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this was like fifteen years ago.
Maybe it didn't go anywhere though, unfortunately. But no, I mean just
on just based on reputation, I mean, uh, you know, John
sounds like the much nicer person just generally. I do find it hard to
believe that he's doing any of this out of malice to Daryl Hall. But
again, I mean legally, if he's not supposed to share any confidential business
information with Primary Wave and he did that, uh then uh, you know,
it's hard not to be on team Darryl, I suppose. But Daryl
does have a rep for being a bit of a diva. I wonder did
he I mean, did he did he have like a first ride, a
refusal or anything like that, you know what I mean? Like, was
there any effort to let him buy his himself instead of selling it to the
third party? Yeah, I don't know that would make sense to me.
Like first, hey, buddy, do you want it? You know,
I'll sell it to you. I don't want it anymore. I want the
money I'll sell to you. Yeah. But yeah, there's I mean,
there's a lot that we still don't know, but more details keep trickling out.
What we do know is their their relationship feels like it's irretably they've lost
that love and feeling. Yes, whoa that love and feeling? What's your
favorite tar home? Jronald's song? Uh? You know it kind of changes.
I mean I think probably out of Touch is the one that I've listened
to the most over the course of my life. I love Family Man,
which at one point was famously banned here at WM and H. Yeah,
Peter did that. Peter White, Uh, not a family not a fan
of Family Man. I'll tell you it was a whole thing, you know
what. I we had a lot of long, long time listeners might know
about that. It's a lot to it's a lot to explain. It was
a whole bit that we It was one of those bits that sort of enveloped
both this show and the Morning Show, and we had a lot of fun
with it. It was a number of years ago now, But my one
regret about that, I wish that it all happened around April first of that
year, because I would have loved to have come in as an April fool's
joke, come in to do my show and just play family Man for two
hours. I think that would have been hilarious. But the timing of it
didn't work out. It wasn't during the month of April or going into April
that that all happened. But we had a lot of fun the famous family
Man saga. But the other thing about this is I remember within the last
year reading an interview with John Oates before all of this happened, where somebody
asked him about, you know, do you guys ever fight, you guys
ever argue and disagree over anything? And he said, and Daryl Holland had
said this too in the past, that the two of them in their five
decades of working together, had never had an actual argument. How can they
be so distant now? Then? I know, I don't buy it.
Come on, oh, that they'd never had an argument? Yeah, I
mean, I'm sure they had disagreements, but but yeah, they both claimed
that they'd never like actual yelled at each other or stormed out of the studio
or slamming doors or anything like that. I could see that. I could
see that. But it's just it stinks that they're so far apart from one
another now. And then what happens if it is allowed to be sold to
the third party? Does that mean that third party will have the control over
everything because it's not it. This is their name, their logo, their
music, it's everything about them. Yeah yeah, jeez. You know what's
really sad too, is is this how they want to go out? I
mean yeah, I mean just on a you know, putting everything else aside,
just on a human level. I mean, Darryl Hall is seventy seven
years old, Johnois is seventy five, and this is how it's gonna do
it from nineteen seventy this is how it's gonna end. That that part is
heartbreaking to me. It is horrible it is horrible. You know, all
that success, the biggest selling duo of all time, and this is how
it's gonna end. And they like the nice guys in music, right,
They're the guys that you'd want to go listen to and relax and have fun
and jokerund they were the happy guys. Yeah, it's hard to see these
two like happy guys not so happy is you know? Watching them growing up?
Their music, I mean it was it was always good music. It
was you know, it wasn't like, oh I kill something, it's it
was always good music, happy music, you know, loving music. And
they always seemed to be those those people. It's hard to see them in
this really negative, nasty light. Yeah, where they're just at each other's
throats, trying to hurt each other basically. Yeah, maybe they stayed together
too long, maybe and grew to resent each other. Those people do that
relationships I've had. I had a relationship too long. So yeah, you
sent me an article here from grunge dot com. Oh I about this and
well or actually he also put it in the chairman. I clicked it and
just kind of scrolling down. Yeah, this one just came out, this
article I just sent you from grunge. Yeah, literally just came out within
a few hours. So it talks a lot about their career and whatnot,
but then it is scrolling down to the part where it talks about what's happened
recently. It says here, Daryl Hall also seemed to resent, and that's
the word that I used. I think he resents John Oates. He seemed
to resent what his partnership with John Oates represented. He told the La Times,
quote, everything you do is juxtaposed against another person. Try doing that
sometime. I don't want to use the word emasculating, because that's mail,
but it takes away your individuality unquote. Hal's annoyance at his lack of individuality
could be why he hasn't worked together musically with Oates for a long time.
He once again mentioned Oates on an episode of Club Random with Bill Maher.
That's what I was talking about earlier, saying, quote, he is my
business partner, he's not my creative partner. We made records called Hall and
Oates together, but we've always been very separate, and that's a really important
thing for me. Unquote. Oates additionally clarified that the pair aren't close anymore.
In twenty twenty three, he told the Big Takeover quote, I think
we have both grown apart professionally and personally. I think we both want to
do something else unquote. Then in November twenty twenty three, Hall filed the
lawsuit against Oates. As reported, the lawsuit falls under the contract debt category,
and it says no further details have been released, but obviously something's happening
out now. There is a temporary restraining lay preventing the sale from occurring.
Yeah, that was a weird thing too, because when this story first broke,
everybody was like, oh, everybody was like, you got a restraining
order against John Oates? Does he think John Oates is gonna come beat him
up? And I remember reading that and thinking, no, I think the
restraining you know, our restraining order legally, I mean, I'm not a
legal expert, but it has other applications, like you're trying to prevent somebody
from doing something, which is exactly what this restraining order is about, trying
to prevent John Oates from completing this what has been deemed an unauthorized transaction.
People. Yes, it's in regards to some kind of violence, domestic violence
or something like that, right, exactly necessarily, you know, but it
applies in a lot of places. But yeah, he so he cannot they
cannot go forward with the sale until this is resolved in court, or until
the judge says to heck with it and lifts the restraining order. But I
don't see that happening. I think this is going to be a long drawn
out court battle, which is sad to say, but I think that's exactly
what we're what we're looking at. But uh, it's funny too, with
the restraining order thing. And like I said, I I kind of sense
that everyone was taking that the wrong way. But I also remember too,
just coincidentally, this was from I'd seen the clip on YouTube. This would
have been from, jeez, I don't know, at least fifteen years ago.
But Darryl Hall, he was a guest on the Howard Stern Show.
And you know how Howard is, He's always trying to trying to find the
dirt and always trying to be a little provocative, and he was asking Darryl,
well, how come your partner's not here with you today? You don't
like him, do you? I bet you guys argue all the time,
right, because you're the talented one and he's just kind of the hanger on.
And at that time, though, Daryl was like sticking up for John,
and he was like, John's written a lot of our hit songs,
but John. Darryl also made a comment, Oh, because Howard asks Darryl,
but you could take him in a fight, right, you know,
you're taller, so you've got reach on him. You could take him in
a fight. And Darryl says something about, well, you know, John
was a wrestler in college, he was on the wrestling team. He could
probably kick my ass. So I just so I thought of that when I
first saw about the restraining order. It's like, oh, maybe Darryl really
is afraid of John Oates. But no, no, I would be afraid
of the mustache because that could be a sentient being, much like AI could
be someday. But uh, yeah, it's uh, the whole thing is
just just very sad, very sad it is. But I mean it's a
huge issue. It's it's a lifetime of work, a ginormous catalog. Isaac
Banks says in the chat room that his favorite song is Private Eyes by Holland
Oates. Yes, do you think do you. Uh, there's someone that
claims to have a list here of Daryl Hall's five favorite Holland Oates songs.
You get one if you can guess. Well, I don't know if Daryl
feels this way, but I've heard John Oates say in multiple interviews. Oh
wait, no, I'm sorry it was Daryl who said this. So She's
Gone has to be on the list because Darryl has said in interviews that that
is the best song that he and John Oates ever wrote together. Is is
She's Gone? First? The first one on the list was She's Gone?
Yeah, yeah, you want to take a stab at any of the others?
What? What else? Uh? His favorite? Uh? Yeah,
it's hard to guess his favorite Wait for Me, maybe because he likes to
really milk that one when they do it live. Oh god, I can't
go for that. Nope, I don't know. I give up it.
They've got so much so the winning the winning songs are one on one okay,
uh, you make My dreams? Yeah, every time you go away
Sarah smiles, Sarah smile, Yeah, Sarah smile smile. Sorry I pluralized
it. And then She's Gone. Those were the five songs listed as Daryl
Hall's favorite Holland Oats songs, Ah does that surprise you? And no no,
uh every time you go away. By the way, for anyone who
doesn't remember that song, you might uh remember Paul Young's version of it.
Paul Young in the eighties did a cover of that and had a huge hit.
But that was actually a Hall and Oates song originally. And there I
don't did they ever actually record their Yeah, they must have recorded their version,
but there's also a live version. They also did it when they did
the live at the Apollo. They performed that live and uh, I prefer
I prefer Darryl seeing it. Isaac Banks says in The Shaman, my favorite
song is I Can't go for that No can do by Hall and Oates.
His he keeps changing his mind, he said, he said, yeah,
he said before it was Private Eyes. I wonder about this company, Primary
Wave, Like, how many catalogs do they own? Makes you wonder probably
quite a few. Were kind of a collection they've got going. Yeah,
yeah, it's big business. I'm curious. I wonder if I can find
out any more about them. But a lot of these artists are cashing out
and just selling off their publishing. Oh boy. They also own Ray Charles,
Bob Marley, Whitney Hughes, Bert Batarac, Smokey Robertson and the Fourth
Seasons to name a few. Yeah, since twenty sixteen, apparently they Yeah,
they're out there. Well, it's a very lucrative part of music that
doesn't get talked about that much publicly. Is all the royalty and the right
side of it. Well, you know what the most infamous in the in
modern musical history. You know what, the most infamous example is right of
somebody purchasing somebody's publishing Prince what do you mean, prince when he changed his
name? Oh no, no, no no, When somebody purchasing the rights
the publishing rights to somebody else's music. When Michael Jackson bought the Beatles,
you got it? Ha ha, yep, yep. And who owns that
now? Because Michael passed away, do his kids own it or did they
sell it? I wonder they might? Yeah, because he literally went up
against ruined it ruined their friendship. Paul McCarthy wanted to buy the rights to
his own music and Michael Jackson, I'll bit him, yep. Was it
wasn't it a Southerbys or something it was. It was some kind of oxygen.
Yeah. Yeah, well because hi, but you didn't think I'd guess
it. Huh yeah, uh, Paul. Paul McCartney was very bitter over
that because he because he thought he thought Michael Jackson was kidding. You know,
they had had a hit song with say and didn't they do? They
have two hit songs together that they did. But uh. Paul McCartney talks
about a conversation he had had with Michael Jackson where Michael Jackson said told him
he was going to buy he was going to buy his songs, he was
going to buy the publishing of the Beatles, and McCartney thought he was kidding,
and then it happened, and uh, I think that. I don't.
I don't know if they ever spoke to each other again, well,
I wouldn't want to. Yeah. Regard to me, my buddy, how
do you run? Do you buy my music out from under me? That's
crazy, it is, it's crazy. But you know, companies like Primary
Wave cat they're getting quite the catalog. So yeah, I don't know how
I feel about that. I like artists owning their own stuff, you know.
But yeah, but if they want to sell it, sell it.
Yeah, it's just I don't know. I think John Oates is saying it,
I'm going to cash out, you know. I mean again, these
guys are you know, it's not like he's going to pass it down,
you know what I mean? Like, well, well, yeah, no
he could. I mean, but it's not like there's going to be any
more creativity coming out of it. I think, is where I'm kind of
trying to go from. It's like, you know, when these guys are
gone, it's gone. It's over. It doesn't continue. So maybe he
just wants to put a put a period in it and walk away. Yeah,
but I don't blame Hall for being worried about somebody else having the right
to do sell chicken to their music, right. Yeah. Trying to think
of what what Hall and Oats song would go well in a KFC ad,
but nothing comes to mind. Uh. I can't go for that, No,
because because they want you to buy their chicken, you to go for
it. Yeah, yeah, they can't do that. I won't go for
it. Maybe wait for me, you think, yeah, because you know,
if you're saying, oh you're going to KFC, wait for me,
Wait for me, please, I want some of that fried chicken. No,
no, no, I can't sing it like Daryl Hall does. Of
course, Daryl Hall can't sing it like Daryl Hall does either anymore. But
John oatescan and Darryl resents that apparently deal. There will be more to come
out of these two. I suspect that this is not going to be a
quickly resolved issue. I see this being ugly long court battle. Yeah,
it's very sad. It comes out with no winners, very sad. It's
a shame. Come on, can't we all get get along Kumbaya moment?
Well, dang it, there's our dang it, there's our eulogy for the
great uh Daryl Hall team of Darryl Hall and John Oates. All right,
we got a oats you love it? I love it? I don't all
it's the worst album, worst album title ever. It's their company name too.
By the way, have you ever noticed some of their albums, They
they don't even say Some of them say Daryl Hall and John Oates, some
of them don't. Some of them say Daryl Hall, John Oates, without
the without the end. I wonder if that's Darryl's doing. Maybe that was
when the split started. Did you figure out when that was? What year?
Did they drop the end well or did they ever use the end again?
After what it? It came and went like, I'm looking at the
cover of H two O and it just says Daryl Hall John Oates. But
that was an early one because we are going to close with a Family Man,
which, Oh, I'm looking at the same cover which was on the
al there's another one that has a plus sign. Oh really, yeah,
I'm looking at the cover of the single for Family Man. It just says
Darryl Hall John Oates says, no end or plus or is that the one
that has like the yellow and red star behind it? There's no star,
but I don't know anyway, it doesn't matter. We gotta go