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Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. They
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heard radio arm Okay, welcome back
to Why on the Ball? You know,

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he's Jay. Now we have some

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breaking news allegedly Eye on the Ball
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All right, so you know,
we got all our all our news that's

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fit to print from. You know, we go to Twitter and other news

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things and came across an interesting clip
uh today that was posted um involving DeAndre

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Ayton who apparently did an interviews.
He's from the Bahamas, so he was

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on a on a Bahamas TV news
station and had some interesting things to say

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about just his image. Here's what
he had to say. I just feel

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atta in a way, UM where
I think I'm the I'm got a lot

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of people find out and I see
them feel it. But mainly what I've

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been working on five or six days
a week since we've lost is just motivating

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myself to change the narrative or what
people think about you, you know,

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because no matter how you put it, I feel like I have no fans,

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are you you know? And I
can feel it because the whole world

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saying it. And my goal there's
old summers to change the narrative, just

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unlock whatever it is and just completely
just focus on me and change the whole

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thing. So he's been in the
league six years, five years, five

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six years? Yeah, okay,
so um, he is who he is

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and he has one year here,
So tell me the story you told me

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earlier before he started this today,
Well today, I you know, it's

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Wednesday. I have a regularly regular
group of you have a guy, You've

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a fans and stuff that I sit
that I sit with, um football games

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and what Now we have lunch every
wednes that's for a reason. We're yeah,

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and we're we're talking about and we're
just the strictly conversation with football.

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We're talking about me today, and
we're talking about Jay de Laura, We're

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talking about you know, Jed Fish, We're talking about who are the good

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players? And I wanted and all
of a sudden, one of the guys

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says, you know, one of
my biggest disappointments that I have at Arizona

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is DeAndre eight And I'm like,
yeah, I mean, we weren't even

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talking about basketball, there was no
conversation about basketball. So on, he

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just brings up that DeAndre. He's
really disappointed in DeAndre from then, the

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pastor down now. Okay, so
so from who he is now? Sure?

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Sure, so nothing's really changed.
I'm saying all these years number one

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choice, conversation, number one choice. So the good thing is that the

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good thing from Deandre's perspective is he's
kind of found himself. Well, maybe

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he's always found himself. The poem
is, if you are who you are,

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Jay, you are who you are. Now he's going to change his

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whole mindset to get people. The
only way to do that is to be

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something you're not right, be aggressive, best time, you go out in

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the court, and play chip on
your should all the time. This is

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a long season, say, And
that's the thing. I don't think,

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Well, he's been a he was
a already darn good cos play and some

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days he was the best player in
college bat and some day he never ever

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felt he was playing with a chip
on his shoulder. He was never he

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I think he always believed he was
as good as people are saying he was.

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And I don't think he ever played
with that ed monster type of yeah,

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that eds that like he feeling like
he had something to prove. Let

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me say this, um So in
twenty sixteen when he when he decided to

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come to Arizona and he didn't know
anything about any scandal or whatever. I

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remember Bruce Pasco was asking Sean,
and Sean the guy who answers these questions,

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Bruce asked him, there's some type
of feeling that DeAndre kind of just

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plays, plays nonchalantly because he's already
big, he's he's he's overpowers these guys.

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He's just good because he's big,
get good, and he pays with

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no desire. And obviously Sean poop
pooed that that question. Of course he

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would. Of course, of course
he would. But guess what accurate as

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all hell? I think it is
accurate as all hell then and today and

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now and now, and he hears
it now and he actually you don't think

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he heard it before, Well I'm
sure he did, but he's expressing it

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now publicly, and and and I
think that I think that will again.

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It's one of those things where Okay, is he going to do something about

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this or is he gonna be same
all DeAndre when he gets on the court,

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or will he do it one day
and not the next. Well,

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I bet that's going to be.
That's what we saw. Somewhere in Detroit,

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Monty Williams is saying, that's all
I asked. Yeah, that's all

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I asked. Right, And now
the circumstances of events because he needs and

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I guess one of his greatest confidants
and then in motivators was Chris Paul right

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yea allegedly and now he's gone,
and now he's gone, so yeah,

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I mean, I don't you know, that's all. And you know what,

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that's all Arizona fans ever ever wanted. But you know, I really

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ever wanted was to see a guy
like him, a guy like Nico Mannion,

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guy like Josh Green, guy like
Stanley Johnson just come out here and

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give it. They're all and play
like you've got something to prove instead of

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feeling like you've already proved it.
So I'm just gonna do this. This

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This is the They are the nil
versions of players. Yeah, they came

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here, got what they got and
got out and got the hell and got

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out all the guys you mentioned,
And I know this is deviating from the

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break news, which was the one
of the one and done, the most

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impressive, the most feel good guy, and the gain you remember or do

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you even remember. I almost think
that I didn't really like any of them,

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maybe maybe maybe Aaron Gordon, because
I thought he seemed to be a

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pleasant guy, had a smile on
his face, He didn't feel like there

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was a lot of pressure on him. He went out there, he felt

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like he played hard. He had
some I mean, he was he was

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a number, you know, he
was a one and done, but he

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had some limited skills. Guy couldn't
make a free throw to save his life.

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Yeah, but and you felt like
he was working at it. Of

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all those guys, I think I
liked Daron Gordon the most because of all

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those things. Stanley Johnson is way
at the bottom of my list, and

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those guys right right, and then
I liked, I liked, and I

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felt bad for Jared Bayless. I
was just gonna mention him because he was

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at a time when things were going
tough here. It was a lot time

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he had to play, understand,
and he was good, and we talked

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to him a lot because we were
allowed to talk to the guys about it

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again. Good dude, very very
good player obviously. Um, but but

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he's a different one and done right
because we had we had access to him.

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Yeah, you knew a little bit
more about him. Yeah, but

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I like, you know, I
kind of like Jared Bayless and then the

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rest of those guys, you know, if they if they if they had

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come or not come, I you
know, whatever, right whatever, right.

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Um. As we've mentioned a pactwell, media day is day after tomorrow.

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News came out today that uh one
of what was likely to be the

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uh one of the leading attractions deon
Sandra coach primal. So I didn't mean

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to call coach prime Colorado head coach
is not gonna be able to attend.

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He's having another surgery and so he
announced to it he's gonna be missing it.

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So their defense coordinator Charles Kelly,
I'm pretty sure everybody is unhappy about.

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I'm sure. I mean, I'm
guessing there are some people making the

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trip for that just for that right, for that, but having you know,

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he's been having some health problems and
so he's having another another surgery tomorrow,

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so he is he's not gonna make
pactwelve Media day highly unfortunately, highly

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unfortunate. Um, let's see,
so the Northwestern thing is keeps getting worse.

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When you think it can't get worse, it keeps getting worse. So

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now the lawyers that got hired to
represent what was verse eight now a dozen,

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and now there's a couple of separate
lawsuits even though the entire Northwestern football

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team said this didn't happen. Um, now that the lawyer Ben Crump is

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saying that the hazing issues they believe, according to their investigation so far,

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believe it's gone to softball, volleyball, baseball, and cheerly. He isn't

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going in again, I don't.
This doesn't shock me at His quote was,

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it's not one coach, it's an
athletic department, possibly a president that

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allowed This doesn't shock me at all. It doesn't because you know, if

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it happens there, happens to other
places. New Mexico State happened too with

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the same thing that just two dudes
who didn't put up with it anymore.

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And yeah, and at some point
you know that's gonna happen. Yeah,

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yeah, Well you piss off the
wrong person. Yeah you know, I

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mean you know that again, you've
seen enough dateline to know, if more

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than one person knows what's going on, it's going to get out, right.

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And and this is obviously a systemic
something that's been going on for years

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and years, maybe all the way
back to when Pact Fitzgerald himself was a

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player, right, I mean you
could you could make that, you could

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make that presumption. Well, and
then as a coach, it's like,

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you know, this has been going
on, so it's part of who we

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are. I asked you this.
Uh, well, well back, if

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it's happening here, don't you think? Wow? And that's what these lawyers

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have said. We're looking at other
schools as well, so there may be

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a lot more to come on the
right. Well, there's kind of like,

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you know, I'm who's mos macho? Who's mos macho? The guys

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who try to right and even in
other sports, right, and those guys

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who said that the entire football team
says that this didn't happen all right,

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Okay, so I don't you've seen
this? So you know, the Green

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Bay Packers is a public company,
so there are finances and stuff are public,

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so they you know, we're just
got out about how much money they

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got, how much revenue they drew
from the NFL TV deals and all that

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other stuff. So if if I've
told you the total amount of money distributed

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to the teams thirty teams, thirty
two teams, thirty teams in the NFL,

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how much money in total they got, how much did they get?

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Left? Eleven point nine eight billion
dollars? Wow, they're saying. The

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packers announced that they got three hundred
and seventy four point four million. So

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multiply that by the number everybody gets
the same, Multiply that out by the

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number of teams, and you come
up with almost twelve billion dollars. You

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want to talk about plenty money?
Yeah? Yeah, and then the shareholders

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or the stakeholders get that. No, well the agreed packers, Yeah yeah.

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But you know what I've heard you
because the publicly understood those people who

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own you know, who bought shares. Yeah, they don't get anything.

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They don't get So was the money
because there was the thing I'm gonna I'm

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gonna say it. I looked into
it. I saw a thing come across

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social media. I'm being able to
invest in a horse, right, and

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then I started looking into the sure, no, you you if you're one

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of those people that makes that investment. You get squad, you're just giving

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them your money. What you're doing. You don't get a point point zero

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zero. Yeah, but it amounts
to almost nothing, which is what you

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know, You just part of that
horse. The majority owners, you know,

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you know, the fans who have
a share of the Green Bay Packers.

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They don't get a lot out of
that. So anyway, So anyway,

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about eleven point nine eight billion dollars
that the NFL distributed to its teams

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this last year, that's that's just
that's just crazy money, crazy money.

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Hey, there's a Tiger in the
British Open. I know you don't care

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about the British or whatever, Tiger
Christians. He's only the second Tiger to

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ever play in the British Open.
Yeah, that's a cool thing, right

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right. You know the other other
world famous that we all know, and

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that starts tonight in case you want
to know, Rory mclroy's the favorite along

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with the Scottie Scheffler. I'm taking
I'm taking uh um, Ricky Fowler.

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He's my boy, my boy rock. He's playing well, I'm taking Ricky

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Fowler, all right. The Phoenix. We just talked about this the other

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day. The Phoenix Suns, who
don't have a G League team, are

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now looking into starting a G League
team uh in the for the twenty four

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twenty five season. So that that
would mean that all the team, all

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the NBA teams would have a team. Right they used to have one,

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did they did? The Sun's Dight
Thomlinson. Yeah, they him and they

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played in in flight stuff um at
least up to about a couple of years

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ago. Wow, because one of
the former you of a managers uh was

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the was the coach? Oh okay, but then they just spend it they

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disbanded. Well there matt Ishbia wants
to wants to start it again. Oh

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yeah, said the Sun's previously operated
G League affiliated called the Northern Arizona's Sons,

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whom Exo owner Robert Sarvis sold the
Detroit Tense in twenty twenty. Steven

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nice pool that yeah, I remember
because they had the former U League guy

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um so but they I wonder why
they wouldn't done That's kind of silly.

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Yeah, wy wouldn't yea, why
would you have a minor league? Take

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cost? I don't know so sorry, well maybe a cost everybody knows.

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Yeah, you know. So,
yeah, so the Suns are working on

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getting So that's somebody in that that
came out on Twitter and somebody in the

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responses said they'll draw better than ANC
basketball. Yeah no, yeah, even

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though you see like somebody get in
Vegas. You saw the big names m

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Yama and those guys, but it's
not well attended. It's not. Yeah,

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but when they played in Vegas,
people have that Summer League people have

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fun with that. Oh yeah,
all right. Uh. And then my

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friend, my friend Dan Patrick announced
when he's retiring, not for another four

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years, but he said at the
end of twenty twenty seven. How old

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is he? I think he's like
sixty seven. Oh so that's yeah,

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that's old. Yeah, he's been
around a long time sports, you know,

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the ESPN guy for the longest time. Started at CNN. Um.

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Yeah, but I put a show
on every morning when I'm working center on

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my desk to put it on the
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slong in this profession, right sixty
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him. Man, people are people
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now, Yeah, or they're pulling
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Ross Dellingers went from Sports Illustrated.
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that Orty and Dan Wetzel, and
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who seems to know a lot about
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the realignment stuff, the TV deal
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Hey, welcome back to I on
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fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, he's
Jacob's oars. Now on the phone,

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we have John Wilder ky pat twelve
hotline. John. How you doing.

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I'm good, We're doing. I'm
sure you don't miss one hundred and twelve

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degree wither It's only one hundred and
twelve there, no, no, I

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mean compared to Phoenix is much worse. Right, he had the twentieth straight

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day of over one hundred and ten. I think I think we're in the

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mid one hundred. It's like one
oh five today because it ranged a couple

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of days ago in or still it's
still. It's bad though, it's bad,

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it's bad. So, Um,
Pacclove meeted down Friday. Uh No

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PAC twelve TV deal in place.
You posted on your PAC twelve hotline the

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top five storylines, and that's sort
of you know, number one. What's

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going to happen? What's George Klafkoff
gonna say about the Metiorites deal and the

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future of the PAC twelve. Um, I know everybody's been saying that this

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thing is gonna get done by Friday. Doesn't look like it. So what

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are you thinking now about what he
might say and what he's not gonna say.

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Well, he's got to say something
about it, right, I mean

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he had to get up there and
say no comment, no comment. Uh.

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much detail he's gonna put me that,

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I don't know. He doesn't want
to. Honestly, he does not

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want to offend the negotiating partners by
providing too much detail. But I just

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think he's got to say something.
He's got to find that, you know,

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fine line between saying nothing and given
way too much. Right now,

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that could be a few generalities,
but even that would be more than he

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has said for seven months, because
he hasn't uttered a keep about the negotiations

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publicly since early December. And I
think a lot of that's because for a

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long time, Domember a whole lot
to say, uh, And part of

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it has just been their their strategy. But he has gonna say something,

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I think, or else it's gonna
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So John, I know you as
a young man, you were here

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for a while many years ago.
How how how have you aged during this

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conversation because it's it's been lasted more
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conversation with you guys right now,
Because this conversation right in the last two

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months has aged me twenty years.
You guys have done this before. Right

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on the beach, you cover a
coaching search and it goes on for a

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few weeks or a maybe a couple
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to try to stay on top of
it, but you've got to chastings turn

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out to be false, and you've
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you or not. Well, this
is like cover. The coaching search has

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gone up for thirteen months. Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing ending.

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I don't know how it's gonna end, uh, but I think it's gonna

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end. I would be surprised to
be not over before the season starts,

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for sure, if I could.
What's the worst possible scenario, Well,

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for who, the league, the
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the commissioner puts before the President's a
media deal that does not meet their bar,

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does not clear their bar either in
terms of the money, order,

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the platforms like they're you know,
the exposure. And so then all of

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a sudden, you know, Colorado
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and then Arizona and arizonire safety the
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and they're left with six teams that
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conference. I mean, I don't
think Oregon and Washington are going anywhere.

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They're never going to go to Big
twelve, and there's no option to go

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to the Big tent right now,
so they would probably stick around with the

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Washington State organ State and Count Stanford
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But that's that's like the doomsday scenario
right there. Yeah, that seems

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What do you think he'll say tomorrow? Where do you think can or will

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say tomorrow? I think he will
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some kind of timeline. I really
do. And I don't know if he's

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going to give us us a date
or a week, but I think he's

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gonna he's going to do his best
to indicate this thing is coming to a

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close, because if he can't do
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this guy can't land. The plane's
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plane down on the on the runway. And so I think he will at

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least provide some kind of timeline.
I don't think he is going to talk

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specifically about the which which media companies
they're talking to. He may get into

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a little bit specific on that balance
between linear versus streaming, less their strategy

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on the night games or the you
know, the six and twelve days.

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I think that stuff is as port
the presidents almost as the money themselves.

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They want to have a media contract
that is fanned friendly in terms of people

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being able to get to the stadium
and knowing in advance when the games are.

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Are you surprised they didn't get the
deal done by this time? I

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mean, if you would ask me
last July, would this filling still be

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going on? I was a new
chance was still going on now. I

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would have thought the conference was going
to dissolve, and they didn't get a

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deal done by now. So yes, I'm surprised. What I'm saying a

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few a few weeks ago on your
podcast you predicted and again you were,

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you know, just saying, my
thinking is they're going to get it done

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by you, by me by media
day. So I mean, in that

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regard, are you kind of surprised
that? Yeah? I thought I've really

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thought they were going to get it
John in the first couple of weeks of

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July. I did. And I
think that it is possible that they could

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have gotten it done. And I
don't know this, but I think it's

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possible that they could have gotten it
done. But you know, they've had

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somebody, a new media company has
kind of come come to the table and

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said, you know what, we're
interested, and so they have delayed things

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to see if they can you know, rustle up moren't bids to drive up

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the price. Uh, that's just
that's just a guess. And I also

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think that in fairness to myself and
many others who have thought that was going

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to be done earlier this summer,
I think the situation ESPN has really been

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a little bit of a I don't
know if it's a wrench that caused a

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delay. You know, Disney c
came out and said, we're looking for

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you know, ESPN is going to
be going to become streaming service. Uh,

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we need an equity partner. You
know, we're reconsidering, you know,

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everything about ESPN's business model. I
think that may have caused a delay

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too, because it's making the Pack
twelve. We you know, we consider

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its strategy in a good way because
of the clearly streaming, the acceptance of

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streaming is coming quicker than people thought, and I think that's that's beneficial for

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the PAC twelve. So along the
lines of my first question of the worst

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case scenario, what's the minimum?
What would make that minimum be twenty five

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million? Is it? Is it
less than that? No? I think

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so. I mean, if you're
going to use the Big Twelve as a

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benchmark. Right, They're gonna pay
each school it's basically I think, thirty

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one point seven million per year,
and they've got a deal with Fox and

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ESPN. A lot of their content
on ESPN is going to be on ESPN

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plus. I think I think if
Cleo CoV comes to the presidents and says

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he's got a deal within ten percent
of the Big twelve, you know,

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twenty nine thirty million at a low
end and thirty four million at a high

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end, and he's got a presence
on ESPN, I think that is going

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to be seemed satisfactory. You know, I don't think any of these schools

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are going to leave If the difference
in money is a million or two a

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year. That's on the margins and
it gets eaten up by added travel costs.

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So I think you just got to
be within ten percent, all right.

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So moving on to some of the
other storylines. I know a lot

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of folks, probably you included,
were looking forward to getting a chance to

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have some time with Dan Sanders.
I'm excuse me, Coach Prime again.

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I keep forgetting we're supposed to call
him coach Prime, but he we found

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out today is not showing up.
You had to. You had to rework

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your your five storylines. But beyond
that, you know, the whole Don

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Sanders thing for the PAC twelve good
thing, bad thing. You think that

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he's going to be any good?
What are your thoughts on all of that?

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Well, I mean, I think
it's been great for Colorado and great

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for the Pack twelve. It's kind
of like se hired Lincoln Riley, although

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the yarn is even more of a
you know, I mean, he's a

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sports icon, right, so in
terms of brands helping your brand, it's

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been great for the school and the
conference and all the attention he's attracted.

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How are they going to do this
year? You know, I don't know.

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It's it's impossible to really know because
he's got like sixty transfers. The

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problem is the depth. That's what
I think he's got. You know,

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he could probably feel the starting twenty
two that could get him to five or

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six wins, But I just don't
know. They lost so many guys.

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I just don't know what the depth
is going to be like, especially on

407
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.599
the line of scrimmage, and so
that that could be their biggest problem.

408
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:48.960
But it's obviously they're going to be
better. And he is a newsmaker.

409
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.799
I mean, Colorado's on the big
new kickoff I think the first two weeks

410
00:29:53.839 --> 00:30:00.839
of the season, and I cup
of how much attention he pays to what

411
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.279
other people are saying about him.
But I mean that's kind of who he

412
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.440
is. Do you think, I
know, you think he should just not

413
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.079
pay attention to that stuff and just
move on or what do you think?

414
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.799
I mean, he is who he
is, I feel like. And the

415
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.279
thing is, his methods have been
very controversial. I mean nobody has done

416
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.240
what he did. They were cutting, they were making no bones about it,

417
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.839
they were cutting players, and uh, you know, when you've got

418
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:33.960
sixty two guys, it is uh
that is different in college and so some

419
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.000
people not take it, take it
to that. Uh, but you know,

420
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.519
he's Dion. He's gonna he's gonna
speak his mind. So the other

421
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.119
storylines, what were you maybe another
pressing one? Well, the big thing

422
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.559
I think is the quarterbacks, right, Uh, they the facts. What

423
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:55.799
has got the best lineup of quarterbacks
in the whole country. And so we're

424
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.640
going to see a bunch of those
guys on Friday, Uh, including to

425
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:04.640
the Laura who's whose presence on the
podium I think is uh very interesting in

426
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.960
Arizona's taking that approach, and I
commend them for putting them out there and

427
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:15.799
kind of facing the storm head on, you know. And also obviously the

428
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.799
last year the LA schools in the
in the league is going to be something

429
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.200
that's talked about. Uh So there's
a lot. I mean, it's uh,

430
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:29.920
it's gonna be packed with with storylines, uh for that one day and

431
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.000
the season anticipated season the compas has
had in years. Yeah, do you

432
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.079
vote in the media poll? I'm
sorry, what was Do you vote in

433
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:44.240
the media poll? Oh? So, I do usually, but this was

434
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.559
not the case when they they sent
out a notice about the media poll and

435
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.599
the all conference teams, and the
deadline was before my vacation ended, and

436
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.440
I needed a break. I looking
at you man being the family guy and

437
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.799
all that, very cool John,
and then a lot, you know,

438
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:06.279
the last summer my vacation was destroyed. I wanted to take it and as

439
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.839
I did, want to do without
rese and that that was just gonna take

440
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:14.680
too much time. Okay, so
we have a couple of minutes here,

441
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.359
and I'm not sure how long you'll
take without doing any bias and who's doing

442
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.319
what here? Jay and I make
another bet. You know it's Tuesday or

443
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.759
Wednesday, So we make a bet
anything you know what cockroach is gonna go

444
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:29.440
up the wall. So so there's
teams who's gonna go h go ahead and

445
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.200
explain it. Who's gonna who without
giving away just who's gonna win? Who's

446
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:37.759
gonna win the pactole? Well,
I picked Washington in this January, and

447
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.000
I'm sticking with Oski? What for
what? For what reasons? One of

448
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:50.279
us has Washington great quarterback, Uh, tons of playmakers on offense and very

449
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:55.839
good pass rushers. And who's gonna
beIN a second? I haven't gotten that

450
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:06.759
far, you know, I don't
know Uta two. Um, A lot

451
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.319
of it depends on Camerasing's health.
Right, he had an acl Rose Bowl.

452
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:14.240
I don't think he's done anything all
off season. And that's gonna be

453
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.759
it's gonna be interesting to see what
he says Friday in terms of his his

454
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:23.319
recovery. You know, uh they
opened before and then uh Baylor, and

455
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.880
those are two huge games from the
Pack twelve and they you know, if

456
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.160
he's not healthy or one hundred percent, that could have a real impact on

457
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.079
on Utah season. All right,
well we'll tell you that I took Washington,

458
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:40.519
Steve took USC. Yeah, I
mean those are the two. Those

459
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.279
are the two probably to pick.
Although it's interesting, right Utah's back to

460
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:51.759
back conference champs, and yet they
probably are gonna be picked third four.

461
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:57.160
USC had Wren back to back conference
chips, Oregon or even Washington, they

462
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.319
would be the clear favorite right going
into the third year. But Utah,

463
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.279
you know, there's just a little
bit below the radar. You don't think,

464
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:09.960
you don't think you get picked behind
Oregon. I would doubt it.

465
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.519
I don't know. I mean the
way Oregon season enter last year, I

466
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.599
don't know. Yeah, they might, they might get picked fourth, and

467
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.960
mean that would even be organ indication. Back to backs conference champs with a

468
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:28.079
quarterback con returning get picked four and
the best coach in the league and they

469
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:35.639
get picked fourth. Okay, do
you think Arizona wins six games? Uh?

470
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.559
You know that I have thought about. I've been a bet against on

471
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:43.360
that one. I think they're gonna
be better. But the league is better,

472
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:49.079
right, there's exactly the top of
the league is better. Colorado is

473
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:53.000
gonna be better. Uh A sue
I think is gonna be better. Uh

474
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:59.760
so. Uh. That's the problem
with Arizona is have they gained around relative

475
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.679
of the competition, not on an
absolute basis, And I'm not sure if

476
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.559
they have or not. I feel
the same. Well, Stephen, I

477
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.719
have a bet on that too.
I took over five and a half,

478
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:14.519
he took under five and a half. Yeah, I would take I would

479
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.480
do it. That's gonna be close. There's a stretch out where they have

480
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.760
to come up with winds that might
be sketchy. We'll see what happens.

481
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:23.480
Johan, thanks a bunch. I
fund out there. Man's day out of

482
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.199
trouble. Okay, all right,
guys, thanks a lot. All right,

483
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.239
man, I appreciate it. Thanks
for Yeah, It's it's funny.

484
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.760
We touched John every note and again, you know, frequently, and we

485
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.960
could have had this conversation last yeared
this time. Yeah, I mean no,

486
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.159
And I mean that's a guy that
here's things and stuff like that.

487
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.840
He's built like we don't know,
and people either believe him or don't believe.

488
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.079
Don't believe. Yeah, but I
think it's it's right. It's who

489
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.920
you talk to, what agenda they
have when you talk to them, because

490
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.400
it's all about the sources telling you
whatever they're telling you. Yeah, and

491
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.400
God, and I don't know how
much you know, I don't know how

492
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:59.840
much we're gonna know after Yeah,
you probably won't write. Were probably a

493
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:01.559
whole lot more. Yeah, Yeah, all right, all right, check

494
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back to all in the back here
Fox Sports fourteen I'm Steve Enberry, He's

549
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Jigin's awesome. We get about twelve
thirteen minutes left. If you guys want

550
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.239
to give us a quick call your
thoughts on all this craziness with you at

551
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:19.960
twelve. I know we're trying to
talk football, and we want to talk

552
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.360
football, but we're still talking all
that other stuff and you know, until

553
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.199
they get and that's it. You
know, I'm with John, right,

554
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:29.000
let's just let's get get the stunts. We can move on. I mean,

555
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:30.800
I can't even imagine, you know, as he said, it's been

556
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:36.280
like a year long coaching search for
him. And uh, I'm glad I'm

557
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.239
not in the middle of this.
Well and in fact, nobody locally really

558
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:42.840
is. Yeah, well, John
is providing the coverage here, you know,

559
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.719
because as as Justin Spears said on
our on the show on Monday,

560
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:50.239
you know, you know it,
Justin's covering the football, He's covering ears

561
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.960
on the football when you're talking about
all the other stuff going on with it.

562
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.079
You know, the TV deal and
the conference that you know, John

563
00:40:55.159 --> 00:41:00.320
stuff appear, you know, is
in the Star, It's syndicated in the

564
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.880
start, so that they rely on
his stuff to cover that cover those angles.

565
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.400
I guarantee you that it's going to
be anti claimactic. It's gonna be

566
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.280
kind of like a went noodle.
Well yeah, I mean, how much

567
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.960
can clap coughs say? Right,
it's even when it happens. Oh,

568
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:21.480
I shaved my legs for this,
because come on, we talked about money

569
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:25.920
and minimums and maximums and ESPN and
streaming at all. We know everything that's

570
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.039
involved. I'm starving trouble with that
vision. I got nice legs. Come

571
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.159
on, we know all the all
the we have the ingredients to the stew.

572
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.119
We just don't have the stew,
right, No, yeah, you're

573
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.800
you're right. I mean you know, like you said, you know,

574
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:43.960
there's gonna probably be an ESPN aspect
to it, a streaming aspect, but

575
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.039
you know the money is gonna be
about you know, high twenties, low

576
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.719
thirties and okay, it's done,
let's move on. Yeah, you have

577
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:53.800
a date. You just don't know
what she looks like. Yeah, good

578
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.760
luck with that. Wow. Yeah, well I hope she's worth thirty one

579
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.960
million dollars. Well, yeah,
that's the minimum or that's the maximum.

580
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:06.239
You probably that's probably gonna get you
the that's gonna probably be way and you'll

581
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.159
be over your head'll be over your
head. I know, I know,

582
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:13.719
I know she's gonna be way better
looking. Yeah, you'll probably be about

583
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.960
a twenty five twenty six million.
You say, well, okay, I'll

584
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.920
take it. Yeah, I'll take
it. Yeah. No, But you

585
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.400
know, you know the other you
know again, some of the other angles

586
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.480
he talked about, you know,
the Dion Sanders stuff and the Colorado stuff.

587
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.559
I mean, it is bringing a
lot of attention to the PAC twelve,

588
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:30.840
regardless of whether we think it's good
or not. You know, we've

589
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:36.800
talked to Brian how the beat writer
for for the uh for the Boulder Paper,

590
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.920
and you know he's it's you.
I would say, he said it

591
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:44.719
was madening. It's just a lot
right, well, game, such a

592
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:46.800
huge person out screen game. It
was freezing cold, blah blah blah,

593
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.760
and it was packed. It was
packed. I'm sure Brad feels good about

594
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.079
the fact there's probably a lot of
people reading his stuff. But uh,

595
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.800
you know, and and that that
that's kind of you like that, right,

596
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.239
I mean you know, I mean, you know the great basketball seasons

597
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.119
you covered and that I covered and
stuff like that. The fact that you

598
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.840
knew that people were reading the stuff
they were writing that was that was a

599
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:08.679
very good feeling, sure, and
you know it was important. Yeah,

600
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:14.880
it's important that people who wanted to
know, even even now us as crazy

601
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.800
as it is. H Brad said
something about that with the popularity of the

602
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:23.800
basketball program specifically changed gears a little. I don't know if I agree with

603
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:30.719
him. Basketball here since lew arrived
eighty three, but eighty five eighty six,

604
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:32.960
when the magic started to you could
see it. It was pretty strong.

605
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.760
It was it was pretty strong.
So I don't think I don't think

606
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.199
it just came to the nineties.
He just kind of was enhanced. Wait,

607
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:45.719
well set the tongue, yeah,
exactly. And at that from that

608
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:46.840
point on, I mean, I
know there were a lot of people got

609
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.280
behind it, and people were excited
and stuff like that. But when when

610
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.239
eighty eight hit and they got to
the Final four, you know, there

611
00:43:54.360 --> 00:44:00.239
was a sense of you know,
Arizona had had gotten to somewhere that and

612
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:01.960
nobody ever thought it would get shut, right. I mean, I remember

613
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:07.119
thinking, they're in the final freaking
four, you know, And even as

614
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.480
close as they got that that one
season under Fred Snowden, you know,

615
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.920
if they were playing UCLA in the
lead eight at UCLA and I'm like,

616
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:15.159
I know, I sat and down
and watched the game, but I knew

617
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.400
they weren't going to be Ucla.
I think gave a good game. Yeah,

618
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.840
but you know when you think about
in eighty eight that they actually got

619
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:27.480
into the final four after three straight
first round bosses, and you thought,

620
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.119
wait a minute, this isn't like, you know, this is the national

621
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.719
Championship and every Zona's in it.
Arizona doesn't get to play in that sandbox.

622
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.280
Ever, we didn't think they were
ever gonna get to play in that

623
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.119
sandbox. Everonell of a sudden they
were in it. And actually there were

624
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.199
a lot of people, including me, who thought they were gonna win it.

625
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.960
And now from that point on it
became like that was sort of the

626
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:51.000
bar, sort of the bar.
And the next year was even worse in

627
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:52.880
terms of hype. They were the
number one team in the country for a

628
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.440
lot of the year, a lot
of the time, and they went into

629
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.840
the tournament number one and then got
beat in the sweet sixteen with those typical

630
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.280
Arizona Well that's what things. You
realize that because you've lived enough of those

631
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.920
years. Yeah, you know it's
like Lucy pulling up to a football but

632
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:15.400
you know, I've because I'm a
bigger fan of football, I still have

633
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:22.159
always believed that Arizona, when you
talk about an X town, football town

634
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:28.400
or basketball town, I've still felt
like in their hearts, Tucson has been

635
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:37.079
a football town because like they let's
put this way. Let's say Arizona hadn't

636
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.800
been to either the Final Four or
the Rose Bowl today. Okay, there

637
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.920
would be more fans rooting for the
Rose Bowl than the Final Four. Now

638
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:52.039
right, that's time I feel like
I feel like more if you let me.

639
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.960
Let me say it differently, if
Arizona had never been to a Final

640
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:59.400
Four and had never been to a
Rose Bowl, Okay, and you asked

641
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.599
general sports fan and Tucsons, we've
which would you rather go to? For

642
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.360
go to? First, we've asked
this question, well, we asked it

643
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:08.280
in the context so have you've already
been to a Final four? People answered

644
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:12.360
it in that kind of I'm saying, hadn't been to either. And you

645
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.280
asked the fan in Tucson which would
you rather go to? I'm pretty sure

646
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.480
I'm pretty sure you know this.
You know this crowd better than me.

647
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:22.719
But let me also say this to
you, jay Um, I've been written

648
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.559
a story at least twice for a
number of people. Tucson is a fickle

649
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:31.119
sports town. One and a lot
of the people now aren't from Tucson,

650
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:36.800
are not from Tucsons. So they're
indifferent to the University of Arizona football program,

651
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.559
right right, because you want to
go the game. Yeah, they're

652
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:42.159
playing this guy of this gets and
tickets and it's later riving, right,

653
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.760
So it's it's they're not they're not
you anymore. Now they're not you.

654
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:52.079
But but I will say there are
more of them then there are basketball fans.

655
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.039
Oh well, feel there's maybe no, seriously, there's there's twenty to

656
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.599
twenty five thousand Arizona fans will go
to every game. Maybe they I know

657
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.679
they didn't coming out of the summon
stuff, but they've always put and and

658
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.760
that's too has always I mean,
Steve, they were selling twenty to twenty

659
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:13.639
five thousand season tickets. Let me
ask you before someone came in and set

660
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:15.760
it on fire. Yeah, well, let me ask you this. If

661
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.039
Arizona played in a bigger arena,
I don't know, whatever number you want

662
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.159
to give. Um, they would
sell it. I bet eighteen thousand macs.

663
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:27.320
I don't know. I don't know. I think it runs out pretty

664
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.159
soon after this because they're not they're
not selling it out on the season ticket

665
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.559
basis right now. Well, I
think they will. It hasn't been because

666
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.039
Sean poo poo that yeah, at
the end of the shin. But it's

667
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.480
been a while since they've done that. Yeah, I think that'll I think

668
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:42.920
that'll get better. But I don't
distribute to the fan basis for football is

669
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.760
bigger. It's kind of built in, isn't it kind of built him because

670
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:49.480
well, because it's a bigger stadium. But I think but again, I

671
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.840
think it goes to can you say, can you say that about Kansas football,

672
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:59.719
that that there's more football fans at
Kansas than there are basketball fans?

673
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.159
Probably not right, No, because
that's obviously that's what I'm saying. So,

674
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.760
but I think at Arizona there are, oh, there's more football fan

675
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.000
Anybody want to call in and maybe
take a side, don't I don't know

676
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.239
because I don't know. How about
how about Kentucky? Same thing. They're

677
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.679
bad at football too, They're just
a bad But Arizona's bad at football too.

678
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:22.519
But yet I think that in in
you know, when you break it

679
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.159
completely down, just share numbers regardless
of who's got a bigger stadium or whatever.

680
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.960
I think you can you're gonna sound
more season football tickets than you're gonna

681
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:36.840
south season basketball tickets. Well,
uh, apples to apples, given it's

682
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.880
a fifty four fifty four thousand apples
to apples or I'm just saying, but

683
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.760
don't but just a point fan number
of football fans versus number of basketball say,

684
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:47.239
I don't know if anybody wants to
call in and pick a side of

685
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:51.440
I don't know. I understand your
point, which is a good one.

686
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.679
I just don't know. Yeah,
you know, when are you gonna call

687
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.480
me? All Right, you're on
the air and I on the ball.

688
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:00.800
Hey, so I got a perspect
I'm an eightive two zone, and so

689
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.360
I got a perspective from the eighties
and nineties, two thousands and now okay,

690
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.559
okay, So I would say if
it hadn't been either one and it

691
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.719
was a definitely Rose Bowl would be
the definite one. But I would I

692
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:19.679
would honestly say nineties and beyond the
buzz would be for basketball. Yeah,

693
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.320
So I'm just thinking of of the
trust that we have for the football program

694
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:29.639
and coaches that we've got. So
that's just my perspective. What if you

695
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.760
are you're in two son right,
you're physically and two sons? Yeah you're

696
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:35.360
so, you're if they go to
the Rose Bowl, you're definitely buying tickets

697
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:38.840
right, Well, I would,
I would honestly like he did for the

698
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:42.960
one shot one that I wouldn't think
it be a prolonged experience, you know.

699
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.599
For basketball though, I think as
a buzz of watching and following.

700
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.280
I think it's in the brain that
we have products that make it a the

701
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:54.000
NBA, you know, and and
it's an overall like exciting package, you

702
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.519
know, as an eightive two soon
And we also think that the games we

703
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.159
don't have access to it. If
you don't have a certain level of um,

704
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.280
you don't are in the retiring season
valley with with with season tickets.

705
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.599
You know, it's a it's it's
an exclusive experience. But following it on

706
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.840
TV, you know something I've been
most to Zone and due, So that

707
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.400
is a good point. You're right, you know you got you know,

708
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:19.639
you can get a football ticket for
relatively cheap that you can't get it back.

709
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.360
Yeah, and you know every I
was a part of the Nathole group

710
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:24.679
when it was a dollar a game
as a kid growing up in the eighties

711
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:28.239
and stuff, and then in the
nineties of whom not that expensive to get

712
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.880
there. It's still not that an
expensive to try to go, y'all catch

713
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:32.800
a few games, you know,
and it's at it is so empty based

714
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.960
on what it used to being out. I remember back in the days when

715
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.519
based so the twilet people down from
the upper decks and three hundred you know

716
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:45.480
after set down. So but overall
that those bridges have been burned so badly

717
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:47.760
that unless there's a huge turn around, is still going to say it that

718
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:52.760
way? Which which are you more
passionate about? I would say, I

719
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.119
mean, honestly, if we make
it to another bowl, you know,

720
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.320
um, we would be as a
community more passionate. I said, two

721
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:06.519
two voluears in a row were more
more passionate, were equally as passionate as

722
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:08.679
we for football. For basketball,
I know, basketball also has burned our

723
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:13.400
bridges. I compare us to the
Dallas Cowboys in many ways for the program

724
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.440
that we had a one shot wonder
in the nineties and we haven't really done

725
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:20.039
much since then, But somehow we
still think we deserve to be a blue

726
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:25.559
But who is this that aspects me? Who is this? Who my name?

727
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.400
They are? Yeah, Steve loves
you, man, Steve loves you.

728
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.480
My dad passed away back in two
thousand and it reminds me of listening

729
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:42.920
to my dad and his friends coming
on in JR. We appreciate the callege.

730
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.039
Thanks for listening, all right.
I think I think he makes a

731
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:50.079
point for you guys, and I
think the eighties whatever its sput on for

732
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:53.599
him right because you were as a
kid, I always had hope and you

733
00:51:53.679 --> 00:52:00.920
continue to part now. He he
talked to us like where his dad.

734
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:08.239
He's probably when you get to when
you get to your when you get to

735
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.519
heaven, you use that term loosely, and you see your father, and

736
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:15.519
you're gonna tell them that the gut
guts to the rose Bow. Well,

737
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:16.639
I'm not gonna lie to them if
they haven't, I mean, if they

738
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:22.079
know, no, no, no, if they do, are you gonna

739
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.599
sorry you weren't there? But uh, you know, we got there,

740
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:30.960
We got there. I don't know. Damn it, Steve, Thanks for

741
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.440
that was a great cause. If
we do appreciate that. Thank you for

742
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.280
calling, Thank you for listening.
All Right, we gotta hit the road.

743
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.039
We're gonna be back him out.
Uh Yogi roth PAC twelve Conference uh

744
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:45.280
or Pactweb Networks Analysts Football Animals will
be hosting the studio part of the uh

745
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:49.679
PACTWEL Media Day. He'll be on
with us tomorrow to talk about some of

746
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:52.360
the things he expects to see at
pactwelve media down Friday, so be sure

747
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:52.960
to be here for that