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everybody. Welcome to I on the
Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve Rivera. He's Ja Gonzalez. I thought today was Thursday.

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It feels like Thursday, which was
Friday. Hold that good stuff, you

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know, Steve had. I had
lunch with a bunch of old guys today

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and that was your highlight. And
you know, I know you're with one

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and now that kind of thing I
looked. I felt like I was looking

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at my future and it's not good. She doesn't look good from here.

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Let me ask you this because I'm
gonna see some old dudes tonight. I

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was with some tonight last night.
Are you the youngest dude of them?

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Yeah? Except my son was there. But yeah, other than the matter,

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how he feels? Yeah, So
how do you care for the free

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line? How do you feel?
How do you feel? I still feel

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semi young because you know, I
like all these guys. You know,

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there's it's my brothers and then some
other friends who you know, they're all

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older than me. I met,
you know, one of them when I

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was still in high school. So
we were talking about the fact that they

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said, dude, I'm sixty four, and he looked at me and said,

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you're just at the first stage of
old. There's two more steaks.

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How old was? Who was?
How old was the guys? Okay,

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so I'm dealing with that, like, no, see some tonight. The

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one thing that gets me and one
of them is probably listening because I'll see

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him to it. They're cranky.
They're just cranky. Yeah, it's not

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a it's a weird cranky. It's
like a Karen cranky. It's like they're

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just tired of the day every day. Yeah, and you could say that,

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you know, it's just weird the
things that set them off. Yeah,

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it's like you have a great life. You're saying a hundred years old,

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you're you're made up to this point. Relax. Well, we're talking

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about the fact that I understand this
is my usual group of football fans,

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right, the guys that we tailgate
with, you you know who they are,

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right, My brothers and and our
friends. Ninety percent of the talk

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is about health, health issues.
Everyone's talking about their health, things going

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on with their health, and I'm
like, at some point, I go,

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can we talk about football? It's
something I'm talking about. Then we

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talk about football for about three minutes, and then it leads into something about

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health health, and and we're finding
out there we're we're spending an awful lot

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of time talking about everybody's health,
and we're not spending near enough time talking

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about the football season. No,
it's it's a bunch of yeah, I

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hear you, and you get you. I hang around that older group,

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and it's it's frust to me.
It's frustrating. And Steve, you're you're

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you're under that Mendoza line of you
know you're under sixty years old. You

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know, I'm in my mid sixties. Now at sixty four, I think

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you can say I'm in my mid
sixties and I'm starting to go dang.

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A friend of mine, a friend
of mine, was Intail from Satefe this

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weekend. He was doing some we
got together and blah blah blah, and

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I was and he has a lot
of patience because the situation at home with

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his mom and stuff, and I'm
thinking I have no patience. I have

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like zero, I have like a
scale one to ten, it's three maybe,

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And I get really like, you
know, really, and I'm thinking,

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how am I gonna make it?
Because I gotta be more patient?

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You know, I I you know, I hear you. I I've I

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tend to as my wife has said
and my kids have said, I talk

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aggressively, right, I hear you
talk and you always sound like you're mad.

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Yeah, I'm not mad. I'm
just like now, I'm not mad.

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I just talk loud and fast and
aggressive. Guilty and I can't help

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it. Guilty is charged. Kids, What are you yelling at? What

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are you talking about? What are
you doing? What? Why are you

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mad at me? I'm like,
I'm not mad. I don't mean him

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sound mad, but you're not even
yelling. Hey, I'm having a hard

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time convincing them, you know,
like my dad would say. He never

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yelled. He would saying you'd want
to know when I'm met, you know,

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yeah, yeah, but he would
never ye And it's funny because I

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feel like, until he got pretty
old, my dad sounded like that.

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I always felt like when he talked, he was pissed at something. Yeah.

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Well, Rick has that same type
of presence we all did. It

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seems like we like very because you
get it from yeah, from your dad.

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You hang out with mis dad kind
of relaxed, very impatient too,

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but very. You don't come okay, you know whatever. Yeah, it's

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well, we don't meet, you
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I'm you know, I'm rarely pissed
at things like that, but I know

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I catch myself sounding mad or sounding
you know, aggressive, and then I

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just try and you know, relax
my shoulders and try and talk. Yeah,

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I can't tell Can you can tell
me? Can you relax a little?

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What are you talking about? I
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thought, you know, I got
my Harvard T shirt on today and I

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thought it would be smarter to I
want to be a little smarter. Maybe

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if I'm a little smarter, I'm
less angry or whatever. So well,

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let me tell you. You know, one of the things that has happened

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over the last twenty four hours is
and I didn't know. I didn't get

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this memo? Did you about the
Big twelve? We should were talking to

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all these people in the pectin.
I think they just reached out to the

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major papers. Oh, Okay,
they didn't invite everybody, I think.

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I think I think Michelle Gardner was
on from the from the Republic. Oh

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it was a one. It was
a one, yeah right, Justin Spears,

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No, no, okay, they
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think they invited basically the major news. They did invite all the TV stations.

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They invite you and I totally Michelle
Gardner, Justin Spears, uh,

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somebody from your topic. And that
was in Colorado. I think, no

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Colorado. Michelle Gardner pointed out,
Okay, I saw something. It was

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justin Uh Jason Shear said, oh, you know, bret Yarmark talked to

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you know, uh the four News, you know papers in the Four Cities.

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Michelle Gardner came back and said that, no, they Colorado was not

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on the call. Okay, it
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Phoenix, Tucson and it was just
the three of that. Yeah. I

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saw some of it. I didn't
read it at all. I know,

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Justin City posted something. You know. It was just you're just talking about

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how they're they're done. You know, they're done. Uh, they're done

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expanding, They're not going after Oregon
and Washing I mean Kallen Stanford. Uh,

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you know they were they were going
to be comfortable at fourteen. They're

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comfortable at sixteen. That's it,
and now it's time to start working on

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what it's gonna look like. Mentioned
that, you know, they haven't even

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set up how teams will be divided
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We're just getting. Of course,
it's funny how that happens. You

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know, something happens the next day. Okay, what about this? No,

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relax, I'm telling people, relax, relax. In time, it'll

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come out right, like sure at
this time, look but probably by you

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know, maybe as seasons and you
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that, you'll start because you know, they're gonna have to start putting TV

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schedules together and stuff like that.
He did say that they're gonna stick to

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nine football game, nine conference football
games, he said at but beyond that

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didn't say really what that any of
that's gonna look like. It's way look,

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it's way immature, premature, and
we have plenty of time for that.

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It's just the thing that came out
though. CBS Sports College Basketball tweeted

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this out the top five college basketball
games to look forward to after conference realignment.

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That number one was arizonic question.
You know, don't you think don't

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you think that I don't even if
it's close, I mean, like that's

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the I mean, that's you know, that's Duke North Carolina. Well,

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I was just don't jump ahead of
me, Jake, let me ask you

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good questions. Come on, don't
don't jump ahead of me. How's that

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sound? Don't you think it's not
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uh league is going to be the
best in little country? Yeah, it's

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not even close. Yeah, because
right now, you know, you know,

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Duke is really good. North Carolina's
got a you know, got a

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championship appearance, you know, a
year before last. But to all the

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rest of the teams are kind of
just you know, they're they're good,

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not great. You know when you
think of that, Kansas win the national

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championship, Baylor's win a national championship, Texas Tech gut in the final four.

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Uh, you know, they're yeah, it's it's yeah. I can't

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wait another show. And I was
talking about that. Can we just start

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it tomorrow because it's gonna be fun. You know, I've been thinking,

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you know, thinking Steve, because
you know, we always talk about how

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Back twelve basketball conference just hasn't been
a great conference. You know, two

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or three good teams everywhere. Yeah, you know, and they's just been

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thinking, well, how prepared does
that make an Arizona for you know,

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making a run in the tournament?
Right they run against run up against the

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TCU or Houston or last year of
Princeton, get get hitting the mouth,

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and they haven't been hitting the mouth
like that all year long. You know,

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they're gonna be playing in this league
where every game is gonna be not

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every game, but a lot more
really tough, physical, hard games.

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And you know, being the ever
you know, ever to miss that I

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am about stuff, I'd like to
think that that will get Arizona be better

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prepared and be maybe being a better
you know, they don't have to win

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the league every year to prove that
they're really good the way you kind of

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have to do in the Pac twelve. Right if you didn't win the league

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or the conference tournament, how good
were you? Right now? You can

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finish in fourth in the Big twelve
conference and you're still a really freaking good

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team. Yeah, yeah, no
question, no question. It's gonna benefit

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them. It's gonna be fun to
watch. I think the ones that benefit

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the most are the fans who have
tickets to the games. It's not gonna

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be a watered down season. It's
gonna be a fantastic season. Maybe in

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addition to the non conference conference,
you see Arizona's playing this coming year.

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No, no, they're saying the
first Arizona's first year in the in the

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league. They could be playing three
top five teens. Yeah, you know,

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if you if you got Kansas,
They've got Kansas, Baylor Duke and

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yeah, and uh came Michigan Baylor. You know, you know, Holy

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Kyle, come on, that's that's
fantastic. It's fantastic. And you know

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what, and nothing that happens in
November December and we already do this times

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it matters, but it gets you
set for what's right, you know all

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that. I mean, those games
are great and they're good, great TV

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games, and you established yourself,
you get ranked. All those things.

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You know, they count when when
they're doing uh bracketing and stuff like that.

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But in the end, you know, just going and being strong in

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your conference when you're in the Big
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three or four in your conference,
and you're a pretty damn good team,

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and and and and theoretically you should
be ready, you know, you should

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be ready to have to play those
games. Let me let me ask you

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the tournament. Let me ask you
then with this just uh last year Princeton,

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given what they went through last year, and no, there's no right

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or wrong answer. Were they ready? Apparently not? Was it was it

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a one off? Are we don't
know? I'd like to think it was.

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I think so. I like to
think it was because I like to

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think that that that Tommy won't happened. Let that happen. It's gonna happen

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again. I couldn't tell you when
look, Lude had his teams well,

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and it happens. It happens,
Kansas is lost in the first round.

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That's my fourteen. That's it will
happen. It's unappointed. But let me

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tell you, I don't think Princeton
was given enough credit too. And this

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is not an elebut they came back
and I beat Missouri. I think they

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beat Missouri. And that was either
either Missouri wasn't ready, which of course

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that was on it was pretty good, or Princeton was pretty good. They

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were just a bunch of a good, bunch of good, scrappy guys that

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matched up. And how many games
are they was gonna lose last year without

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that one? Five? Maybe six? How many times that game happened?

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The when they lost happened every time? Every time? Every loss. Look

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like that. Anybody who thinks there
should are surprised, shouldn't be every loss.

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They had the lead then blew it. Except for watching the state of

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think it was. But they had
lead and then let the lead go away.

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So what was the shock there against
the good team? Shouldn't have been,

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but it was. It was right. It was more of a disappointment.

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It was a huge, huge,
Yeah. So but I think it's

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going to be fantastic for everybody.
I wonder if the season tickets are going

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to be jacked up a little bit, Oh price, wife, come on,

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because it's a better, better,
better season, better games. Yeah,

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I mean, it's certainly a better
schedule. And then people aren't going

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to be coming, Oh, you
don't have any good games, and you

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know, because you would have to
look to the non conference schedule to see

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if there were, because yeah,
you were gonna get UCLA and you were

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gonna get ore again, and then
after that who knows, right, right,

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and so you really were relying on
the non conference games to make the

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schedule worthwhile. That's not the case
anymore. You're gonna have four or five

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really good conference games every year.
I'm not I'm not sure what we're talking

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about this, but it sounds is
a good conversation. So over the last

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few years, especially when Sean was
here at the end, and they would

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okay, I'll have the season go
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and the title, but we've got
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is that good? It says,
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to tell me that Arizona is okay
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twelve title, in the in the
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exactly. Oh we want a lot
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about. The season's always been determined
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yeah, So you can't tell me
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those back to back lead dates when
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really disappointed. Yeah, and it
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Okay, so we got to talk
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passa callup the news director or sports
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us. A Desert view guy.
Uh so he's a local kids went to

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desert Yeah, local guy moving on
going to El Paso to become a news

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anchor. In our past, what
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he's going back to be uh to
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we'll move up. So he's leaving
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on and uh you're talking about some
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he's a favorite favorite stories and things
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fifteen, three twenty and then in
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covers at the UFA big some big
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the Yeah. Yeah, we'll talk
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the all the u of a women's
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pick her brain about on volleyball is
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at Iowa State. We had Beckamorrow's
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fifty streaming live, I mean I
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Sports Department now soon to leave.
How's your energy, poltoc My energy is

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great and even more energy when I
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Steve Rivera, we've adopted you here
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and of course they here Jay and
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looked up to all the time writing
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respectively. It's it's awesome to be
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be on your show, Socolo Rivera
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firm. Yeah, it sound like
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not going to win your mini.
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Yeah. So Paul you're leaving us. First of all, congratulations on

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the new gig. You know,
I know Tucson is gonna be, you

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know, sad to see you go. You're local guys making good, so

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we can't get in the way of
that. Pataus a little bit about you

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know, what's going on with your
career. No, I appreciate that it's

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been very tough for me. I
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and I kind of just made my
way to sports because I've always enjoyed sports.

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I grew up as an athlete.
I grew up enjoying playing and reporting

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sports as well. But I've got
into this business doing news and there's you

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know, unfortunately sports it's kind of
a dying industry as you guys know what

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the papers and everything else. And
I felt like I had to take advantage

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of this opportunity while I could.
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rated station, the ABC affiliate in
the al Pazzo too of al Quadez Las

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Cruises market as I was fortunate enough
to get the job as the main mail

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anchor for the five, six and
ten PM newscasts. Yeah, that sounds

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like a nice gig. I would
assume that recently you've been doing a lot

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of news here. Uh did that
nothing? I already knew you there,

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knew who paulsa Calla was. But
you've done a few things here. Did

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that help you? Know what I
mean? I'm sure it didn't hurt.

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but but I when I worked in
El Paso, and I worked in that

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market ten years ago and I was
the sports director, but before that,

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I was also I was the weekend
sports anchor and I did news during the

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week, so I did a lot
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I really set a name for myself
at the time for doing border stories

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and border issues, especially with the
big drug war going on at the time.

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the Huades cartel, and because of
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know, I made a name for
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me, I would hope that,
you know, the viewers there still remember

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me and they respected me as a
journalist, and the station has always kept

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me on their radar. And even
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their their main mail anchor, left, they had asked me that they had

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offered me the job essentially, but
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didn't even bring it up to my
news director at the time, and but

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I knew that they're on my radar
and and you know they're their main news

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anchor left for you know, something
bigger and better and uh, and the

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opportunity was there and I couldn't pass
it up. It's it was hard.

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I almost turned it down because this
is my hometown and this I bleed red

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and Blue University of Arizona. I
have so much pride to be at Tusona

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in But everybody else in the industry
told me, you know what, man,

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you are stupid if you do not
take advantage of the job opportunity because

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main anchor jobs and news do not
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Uh come okay, red and blue, when you Crimson and yellow,

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Hey, well listen. I was
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University of Arizona has always been my
team. Man. Yes, I did

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go to USC. I was lucky
enough to to be able to get good

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financial aid and an outside agency scholarships. I went to USC and that's where

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I got my undergrad and Spanish linguistics
and literature and then journalism. But I

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but in the end, I mean, I've always and I hate when USC

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plays Arizona because one of my teams
has to lose exactly. Okay, so

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let's let's run through some stuff because
I'm not gonna ask you for your all

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time great moment. But there's some
stuff that you've covered here in town.

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Uh, you know, you whether
it was you of a or high school,

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you know, some of the stories
that have that have stuck out to

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you, and then maybe some of
the people that that you know will stick

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with you as you as you head
out of town. You know, there's

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just so many stories, and I'm
gonna concentrate more on the stuff that we

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only find in Tucson because you know, every every market has has the pro

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teams, the college teams, the
whole nine yards. But I've always just

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enjoyed telling stories like you guys do
the feature stories with the high school athletes.

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To me, those are the biggest
deals or things like the Mexican Baseball

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Fiesta put together by Mike Fader and
many others where pro teams from south of

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the border play here in Tucson,
and you know, those are things that

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we can only do in our border
culture type environment here in the Sonoran Desert.

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You know, also working with Jeff
Scurrin, who's a legendary high school

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football coach has has been kind of
the one of my highlights. I grew

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up, you know, reading articles
in the Arizona Daily Star, you know,

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great Hampston talking about this legendary guy
you know by the name of Jeff

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Skurrian winning all these championships, blah
blah blah, and then you know a

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little do I know. I ended
up becoming great friends with with a guy

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I covered every day, and some
of the big, big memories I had

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with him is thus going to Prieto, Sonoro, Mexico, and you know,

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he volunteers to help out risk youth
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and you know, and I would
go there as a volunteer as well

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to help, but I would end
up bringing my little camera and do stories

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on it. I mean, those
are some of the just things that I

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remember the most of it, more
of the stuff that has nothing to do

407
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.720
with pro sports, but everything that
has to do with amateur and the community.

408
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.039
You were there, you lived here, obviously, but you went back

409
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.160
there a lot to visit friends,
I'm sure, and all that stuff.

410
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.119
So I'm assuming you're gonna do the
same now You're gonna come back here a

411
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.839
lot. Oh yeah, no,
no, I mean I you know there

412
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.920
there's Tucson is in my heart and
soul. And I every market that I've

413
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.200
ever worked in, whether I when
I worked in Las Vegas, when I

414
00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.440
worked in Southern California, when I
was in no past, it was I

415
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.880
made it to two sound at least
once a month. I would drive here.

416
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.240
Of course, my daughter and I
have my entire families here. I

417
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:10.319
was born and raised on the South
Side Sundayside Unified School District. And and

418
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.039
and yes, the good thing is
it's only a four hour drive. And

419
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:17.480
here's the good news, guys.
I am gonna come back many saturdays for

420
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:19.640
home U of A football games,
and it's gonna be such a great feeling

421
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.440
to go as a fan, not
the under deadline. I'm picking up a

422
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:27.160
camera, jumping, walking back and
forth a million times up and down the

423
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.200
the field and and really cheering for
the U of A like like a true

424
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.640
fan. And and I'll watch you
guys be stressing under deadline this sun.

425
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.799
Well, that's Steve. I go
as a fan. That's that was that

426
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.359
was part of the deal on this
show. I'm I'm I stayed a fan

427
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.720
at least for that part of it. So so Paul, you know,

428
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.799
as you mentioned, you've covered a
lot of stuff you love doing the high

429
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.759
school and they know that. You
know, you've established a following and a

430
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.160
reputation for you know, for being
that guy who you know who brought those

431
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.160
you put those kids on TV,
which is you know, you know how

432
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:03.920
parents aren't they love that stuff you
know is there? And then again you

433
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.279
you're a connection to you know,
Sunnyside School district. You went to Desert

434
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.720
View. But how have you seen
things evolved? I would say, you

435
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.079
know, since you've been here,
you know, think about the time you

436
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.480
were in high school and what it
was like to kind of what you're leaving

437
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.240
behind from a sports standpoint and coverage
and those kinds of things. Yeah,

438
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.759
well, I'll tell you when I
was in when I was in high school,

439
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.480
I would look up and I would
see the guys like Dave Silver's and

440
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.880
the and the Dan Ryan's and then
the Kevin mccaves. I would see him

441
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.440
on TV and say, man,
what a great job these guys have and

442
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.200
what a dream you get to cover
sports for a living, you know,

443
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.279
in my case, being able to
come back to my hometown and report on

444
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:42.400
the team that I grew up sharing
forward with the U of A. I

445
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:47.640
mean, I'm just I'm simply blessed. But as you know, the industry

446
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.920
over the years has evolved into a
situation where you know, you don't get

447
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.599
a photographer as much anymore. You
have to shoot your own stuff. And

448
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.440
it is what it is. I
mean, we're not saying it in a

449
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.920
woes mayor complaining aspect, but it's
a lot more physically and mentally demanded.

450
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.640
It truly is a blue collar you
know, this job when it comes to

451
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.200
coverage of sports and everything else.
And and also at the U of A,

452
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.000
I mean, I envy you Ja, and I envy you Steve because

453
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.839
you guys got to cover U of
A during the glory years, the Two

454
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.599
Thoughts Citizen and Arizona Daily Star,
where you guys got to be sent to

455
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.519
the away games. You know,
if it was back in the day right

456
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.799
now and you guys are still there, you guys would be in Israel right

457
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.480
now and Abu Dhabi. And you
know, I always kind of felt like,

458
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:27.799
man, that would be great if
I could have worked during your guys'

459
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:32.640
era of sports. But uh,
but then you know, but it is

460
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.039
what it is. The sports is
evolving, and unfortunately in the news industry,

461
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.240
Fords a semi going down the hill. I mean, look at Kwald

462
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:42.000
and k Gun. Unfortunately they used
to have three people's sports staff, then

463
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.599
it's two. Now they only have
one. We're lucky enough to have you

464
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.640
a way to have to but it
really is changing when it comes to that

465
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.559
whole dynamics and in sports, and
when it comes to coverage or just being

466
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.839
a fan and watching the games.
No, you're forward thinking and trying to

467
00:29:55.920 --> 00:30:00.839
move your career forward because in fact, you god one of our great friends

468
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:07.559
at Channel four, the anchor there. Uh see, there aren't very many

469
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:08.960
people and I don't want to say
your age, but you're over forty five

470
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:14.279
probably or right there where there.
You guys are few and far between.

471
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.279
No, no, no, we
I agreed. I mean, there's so

472
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.000
many people that just leave the industry
because they say, all right, I

473
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.440
want to nine to five. I
mean, there's no secret that that journalism

474
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.000
jobs don't pay that well. I
mean, we're not living on beans and

475
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.839
rice. But but I mean you
you, it's not an industry that pays

476
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.480
well. So people end up leaving. They go to nine to five.

477
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:36.000
And that's how I give props to
people like Lupita Murdillo, who I grew

478
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.720
up watching on TV every day sticking
it out, Guys like Sean Mooney as

479
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.960
well that are still in it.
And and I'll let my I'll limit my

480
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.759
age. I'm forty nine years old. And uh, it's funny. I

481
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.920
was just talking to my compadre.
He is tuning in right now. But

482
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.200
Paul, Hey, what's up?
Man? But anyways, you know,

483
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:53.519
we were just talking about how old
we were, you know, yesterday,

484
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.240
how old we are, and how
like we look at somebody else our age

485
00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:00.240
and we think they're old and we
wait, said up, they're already in

486
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:06.359
the world too. Hey man,
I grew up watching Yeah, right,

487
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:11.519
Paul, who's gonna see Lucana?
Now, who's gonna see I know?

488
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.039
Wow? You know what I am
coaching? Uh, Jenna Fink, she's

489
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.079
doing a great job. Is our
is our weekend sports anger, and she'll

490
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.519
she'll be here and there. You
know, they'll eventually hire my replace man,

491
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:22.799
and who knows, maybe you she'll
be in that position. But I'm

492
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.799
I'm coaching her on how to say
Sawarita and the whole nine yards. But

493
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.680
but it is what it is,
you know what I mean, if we

494
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.240
need to learn from anybody, though
Jay knows this because he grew up watching

495
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.000
her well Lupi Momudio. She was
the first one to ever say marijuana on

496
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:45.519
camera when I'm wanna that's the way
it said. So, so, you

497
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:51.079
know, do you have is there
a game a moment? Uh? You

498
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.599
know something you covered that you know, a number one you know that sticks

499
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.400
out to you a person maybe that
you remember the most, you know,

500
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.200
because there were a lot of things
in there, you know when you before,

501
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.640
but now just one thing that's going
to stick out that that you did

502
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.799
hear You're experienced here, you know
it is. That is the toughest question

503
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.640
because I feel like there's so many
number ones out there. I mean,

504
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.160
I can say, you know,
being on the sidelines went on New Solomons

505
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.759
through that hail Mary. I had
just been right there where it was a

506
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.359
few feet away from me and seeing
that and feeling that energy and then feeling

507
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:23.680
the stress right afterwards, zoning,
oh man, I only have a few

508
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.559
seconds here to get ready to for
my liveshot, or to cover the story

509
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:32.519
you know that, or just covering
the University of Arizona women's basketball team making

510
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.079
it all the way to the National
Championship game. But to me, that

511
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.359
was a thrilled because you know,
we grew up as U of A men's

512
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.319
basketball fans for the most part,
in the U of A women's team has

513
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.319
never gotten the props and the dude
that they have, and it's just been

514
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.960
such a treasure to cover coach of
Da Barnes and to be on that run

515
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.240
and see you know, super respected
journalists like PJ. Brown there as well,

516
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.480
and just to be on that riverwalk
even though they lost by one point

517
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.039
to Stanford, you know, that
was such an awesome And I hate Las

518
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.359
Vegas. I worked in that market
for two years. I absolutely hate it.

519
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.519
But the only time I like it
is during the Pac twelve tournament when

520
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.680
the University of Arizona and Tucson just
takes over that area in red and blue,

521
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.799
in the whole nine yards. And
to me, I remember those things

522
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:20.880
also because I feel like in Las
Vegas you would see a true representation of

523
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.400
what Tucson University of Arizona fans are. Unfortunately, not everybody can afford tickets

524
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.599
or get good, good seats to
mchael Center, but when you quote to

525
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.359
Las Vegas, you see people from
the Sunnyside district, you see people from

526
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.480
the South Side, and you see
the regular two the Rat Mchael Center as

527
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:42.880
well. But you truly see a
true, true variation of what Tucson is

528
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.119
and what our Denigrathics are and the
pride we have for you of a So

529
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.480
I would say, you know,
covering that the tournaments as well in Las

530
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.880
Vegas. As much as I hate
to say it, but I truly despise

531
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.240
in Vegas. I'm not a fan
of living as well. Let me let

532
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.400
me give you another memory. So
now the good thing is being behind the

533
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.039
desk and be the main news anchors. You don't have to go out and

534
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.400
do those stories. Maybe you will
a time or two, but again,

535
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.079
you don't have to run from one
venue to the other like you did in

536
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.800
Vegas. I wasn't going to bring
it out striped on live camera. That

537
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:14.880
still goes viral. But but no, you're right. But I'm I'm you

538
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.599
know, I'm not going to be
like one of those I call him high

539
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.079
maintenance anchors. That's not me and
I never have been. I'm gonna,

540
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.199
you know, it's I'm looking at
it as an opportunity. When you're an

541
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.480
anchor and you're doing the five,
six, and ten, you you have

542
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:30.159
producers, you have more help.
You're you're gonna get quote unquot photographers more.

543
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.760
But I'm still gonna pick up the
camera and go through stories that I'm

544
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.880
passionate about it and I like to
do positive stories and and you know,

545
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.280
living in that region, you know, I'll pick up a camera and maybe

546
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.760
I'll do stories on some of the
you know, like just you know you're

547
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.440
over there, will cover new U
tap into Mexico State. And I'm still

548
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.119
not going to be out of sports. I already told the sports director there

549
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.360
that that I'm gonna, you know, help them with there. They have

550
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.599
a show called Borderland Blitz, which
is like the Friday Football Fever. So

551
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.760
I'm gonna concentrate a lot more on
doing special reports that I've always wanted to

552
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:01.440
work on, and now I will
have the time to do that because you

553
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:07.000
have producers and others helping you with
the show itself. When writing the newscast

554
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.159
in the whole nine yards, well, Paul, when you go out there

555
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.800
and say hello to Hillary Floren for
me, very good friend of mine.

556
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.480
Yeah, A very good friend.
And then when you pass Las Crusoes Stubb

557
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.199
by Enmas, you see if my
statue is still there, and see if

558
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:20.320
the birds are still pooping on it. No, I want you know what,

559
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.400
I'm looking forward to being there for
that, for that wall of shame,

560
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.360
I mean hall of fame. Sorry
about that, Steve, but yeah,

561
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:29.119
but hey, I always I always
thought it was really cool that you

562
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.599
went to New Mexico State and that
you grew up in such an historic area

563
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:35.679
in Santa Fe, in the whole
nine yards. I appreciate all the history

564
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.800
of the south border, southwest,
all the way through the Camino Real,

565
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.239
all the way to Santa Fe.
I know that history, and it goes

566
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.239
all the way down to El Paso
Norte. And you know, I'm looking

567
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:45.440
forward to being in that region again. And I'm gonna make a lot of

568
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.480
trips to UH to Albuquerque because there's
what it's like a three hour drive or

569
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.800
something from El Paso when I'm not
driving back to Tucson and well, Viva

570
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.719
el Pesso, good luck, No, but always Viva Tucson. I'm gonna

571
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:59.719
stay this real quick. A lot
of people will say, you know,

572
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:01.719
like I'm more you know there's a
saying in Mexico where they say, uh,

573
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.639
someone's more Mexicano than the nopal itself
in the practice itself. But I

574
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.679
would I change it up a little
bit. I say, you'll so I

575
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.639
am more tooth sown in than not
just the cactus itself, but I am

576
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.159
more tooth sown in than the sawaro. And I will continue to be well

577
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.840
Paul. It's it's been great knowing
you're having you and we expect to see

578
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.599
you back here. So don't be
a stranger, and we'll catch up with

579
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.519
you. So we'k on that ten
we'll go up eight mountains, you know,

580
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.519
with the shirt off. No he
no, no over there. Yeah,

581
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:38.199
I gotta figure out a new One's
a train up now, Paul.

582
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:43.079
Good luck and thanks so much.
A lot of fun, a lot of

583
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.960
full Paul, full of energy,
man, guys, always been full of

584
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:51.599
it. Was like rid man,
I know he wears me out. That's

585
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.480
you know, great pasta colleague.
We're gonna miss it, you know.

586
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.119
You know, his enthusiasm is like
nobody else had this, you know,

587
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.320
matches. So I'll tell you to
tell you a quick pall story. So

588
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.360
he's played in the ludosen thing a
few times and he's the only one to

589
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.960
dude, you get thrown out of
a get out of a game. You

590
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.800
know who did it because he's he's
high energy. Yeah, that's the way

591
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.960
he plays. Dude like bull the
China shop up and gets you, threw

592
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:22.559
him up and the guy who probably
should have been thrown out of himself.

593
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.519
Right, that's funny. That's too
funny. All right again, Pastakla,

594
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:29.960
congratulations and best of luck. All
right, let's take our break. We're

595
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.719
gonna come back. We'd love to
hear from you five two zero four one,

596
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:36.679
six, seventy four forty or another
day closer to football season and some

597
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:51.320
basketball stuff going on, So give
us a call. If you're an Arizone

598
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.519
a man's basketball fan. You know
it's been successful for nearly forty years.

599
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.679
Now take a look back at the
lud Olson era in my new book,

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601
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602
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603
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is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera

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and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen
fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I

650
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on the Ball, you know on
Fox Sportsport teen fifty. I'm Steve.

651
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:50.599
He's gay. At ten minutes if
you guys want to give us a quick

652
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call five two old four one six
seventy four forty good to talk to to

653
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.079
Skala. Yeah, you know,
we'll see him around. You're one of

654
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.039
the good guys, right. I
wasn't going to bring up the falling down

655
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:07.760
in Vegas, but that was that
was hilarious. No, he got some

656
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.599
good, good publicity. I didn't
get on the Today Show because of that,

657
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.519
or you know, I think they
showed up. It was on ESPN.

658
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.960
Don't run in your fancy shoes.
That's what it is. That's what

659
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.599
you learn now, Hey, real
quick, and we talked about it real

660
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.280
earlier earlier on the show. So
deon Sanders you saw it now, So

661
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.239
you saw the fight, right,
It was kind of nothing really, Yeah,

662
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.559
two guys or three guys fighting each
other and then the whole team or

663
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.000
some of the team getting involved,
and then a couple of guys who didn't

664
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:42.199
who didn't, And Dion goes there
and says, you know, there's gonna

665
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.480
be a fight, guys, everybody's
got to be involved. And I'm thinking,

666
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:45.960
that's the first thing, you know
what, the first thing I thought.

667
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:51.119
Dick told me and he'd say,
what the hell are you guys doing.

668
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:54.679
I remember being at a at the
first day in pads the year that

669
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.480
I covered them at Camp Co Cheese, and it was probably two plays into

670
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.159
it. I can remember Chris Singleton, you know, made a tackle on

671
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.599
the guy and they got up and
there was some pushing and shoving, and

672
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.840
then there was another one, and
then another one and another one. He

673
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.559
stopped practice and what did he say? Knocked the craft exactly. You're wasting

674
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.760
time. And I do remember a
time or two another time says it's not

675
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.800
about this. You guys are teammates. This is gonna cost you a penalty.

676
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.400
In a crucial moment, it was
we're here to work, you're wasting

677
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:29.239
time. Nobody gets anything out of
a fight. And as you said,

678
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.840
we're all in the same damn team. He was living. He was a

679
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:38.239
coming. Did you that was I
saw another time too, here in town.

680
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:42.880
That the when they practiced at the
facility where the center is now.

681
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.480
I saw a couple of times he
would be pissed, he would be living

682
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.639
over and so I saw this today. I'm thinking this is the total opposite.

683
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.400
And I don't, I don't know
if I agree with it because it's

684
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.440
silly. It's his way of doing
things, David, it's just amazing to

685
00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.440
be on Sanders is, you know, as a player and now as a

686
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.079
coach, has proven that he's not
a regular guy. Well, I don't.

687
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.639
I don't know if it's a right
or wrong answer. It's just a

688
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:12.440
different answer. Who knows, you
know, who knows what what he thinks

689
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.079
is gonna work in his locker room, right, Because that's the thing.

690
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.440
He's got a bunch of guys that
have not been around each other, they

691
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.559
have not played together. What does
he got like seventy new guys on the

692
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.519
team? You know, somebody something? You know, I don't know what

693
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:29.920
he's trying to establish. He's trying
to establish something. Look, it's his

694
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:34.320
team. He gets to do this, and so if he if that's how

695
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.320
he wants to do it, then
he gets to do that. I'm you

696
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.039
know, I'm on the Dick Tomy
side of that, right, like,

697
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.639
knock it off, yea, you
know, there's no there's no good that

698
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:51.320
comes from it. Yeah, and
again it's wasting time now. And if

699
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.119
these things go, if things like
that, if he thinks his team bond,

700
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:58.280
you know, okay, then maybe
that's what his team will bond over

701
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.800
that. But there's an also a
chance that there's also a chance that guys

702
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:07.559
will get you know, something like
that, and that tension will continue and

703
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.199
then it becomes disrupted. And that's
what I'm thinking, and that's what I'm

704
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.920
thinking. And when there is a
fight in a game, because you know

705
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.400
there's gonna be that, you have
these guys running off the field or whatever

706
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:21.519
you can't run on. Guess what
happened? Suspensions, suspensions, And now

707
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.760
you just don't get it. Don't
kind of weird to me that it makes

708
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.039
no sense to me. It makes
no sense to me that that the coach

709
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.679
would would encourage guys to get in
the fights. I just don't know.

710
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.599
And then the coach should be right
there too, he says, I've I've

711
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.000
been there and done that. We'll
see what happens, We'll see what happens.

712
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:44.519
It's just a strange philosophy. It
is. But again, Dean Sandres

713
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:46.000
is, I'm not gonna come a
strange guy, but he's certainly a different

714
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.400
guy, and so he's gonna be
a different coach. We're gonna have our

715
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.920
guy, Brian and Brian right is
it from Colorado? Who's the guy?

716
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:58.320
Yeah? Bran? How because he
got on Brian right here? And that's

717
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.000
why I don't know. I don't
want to ask him because he probably asked

718
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.679
him what's this gonna be like and
he said he wasn't sure. He got

719
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.000
on him right away. I mean, it says the press commerce last week,

720
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:13.599
and we'll have him on well again. He has some unrealistic expectations about

721
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:19.599
how the media is gonna treat him. He wants, he wants to be

722
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.280
treated a certain way, and he's
gonna get a little bit of ana be

723
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.280
a little bit of a shock in
terms of they're not always gonna say great

724
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.599
things about Don and if he's gonna
hate that and kick reporters out or yelling

725
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.800
at him or whatever, that's not
gonna fly for very long. Welcome,

726
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.199
well, you're welcome to the real
world. Yeah. Well, you know,

727
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.559
he thinks, well, he thinks
I'm deon, so you gotta put

728
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:43.119
up with it. Well, maybe
they do, maybe they don't. Well,

729
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.519
Jay, look at here, it's
a it's a lovey dovey. Sure,

730
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:51.920
look at other places like here college
town. It's mostly a lovey dovey.

731
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.159
I was guilty of it too,
except if you have one or two

732
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.480
columnists that aren't like that. But
most of them are kind of in not

733
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:00.800
in bed with the team, but
they would rather see you succeed than not

734
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.519
succeeded. Well, Steve, it's
some part of it too. I think

735
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:09.079
it's so much of the competition has
been removed from reporting, right boy,

736
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.480
because now in the airs one daily
start doesn't have to worry about getting beat

737
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:17.000
by on a story. So you
can be friendly and you can just cover

738
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:21.360
things at whatever pace you cover.
Maybe you don't look as hard for the

739
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.159
you know, for the for the
underneath. You know, you don't lift

740
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:28.760
the rug you see what's under there
because you're not afraid somebody's gonna beat you

741
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.440
one. You know, look in
the TV stations and US and the and

742
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:37.199
the and the website. Guys,
we're all we're all friendly to them.

743
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.920
You know what we know that if
we start pissing off all the Arizona fans,

744
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:43.400
people aren't gonna listen to us.
And that's not to say that we're

745
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.159
not going to call out stuff.
If there's a plane like crap, we're

746
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.480
gonna say there's crap. And we
have you know, I mean when when

747
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:51.880
we thought Kevin someone needed to be
fired, he needed to be you know,

748
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:52.920
we thought he needed to be fired, and we said he needed to

749
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.480
be fired. But you know,
we're not You and I are not out

750
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.880
there every day slugging through all the
stuff trying to come up with something that

751
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.519
somebody else doesn't have because you don't. First of all, you don't have

752
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:06.760
that access. Yeah, don't have
that access. And there's no needs.

753
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:09.320
What am I gonna get out of
it? And just want to read about

754
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:14.280
their team and learn about the players
as much as they can and hear us

755
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.280
talk about you know, they want
for some reason, they want to know

756
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:20.639
our opinions, like you know,
we know more than everybody else. I

757
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.880
wouldn't know, which we really don't, but we've been around long enough to

758
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.400
be able to have perspective on different
things. Sure, sure, no,

759
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.760
I think that's one of the reasons
I think this is what Bruce said last

760
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.159
week when we had him on and
he'll be on tomorrow from Abu Dhabi,

761
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:36.320
is that they went to get a
feel for the team and to let the

762
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.360
readers know who these kids are.
Right, they may not get that inside

763
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:44.119
story, but at least they're with
them to tell what's happening. They'll get

764
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.679
comfortable with him, befortable with them, and then as the season goes on.

765
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:51.239
I mean, this is sort of
a tour for Bruce to be able

766
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.440
to do his job. Ben.
You know when basketball season rolls, right,

767
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:59.400
and if anybody who doesn't know this, this is Bruce's team. You

768
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.639
know, forever he and I competed
against each other. I did it with

769
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.440
Willner, did it with hobb and
all these guys. It was a dual

770
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.320
type of competitiveness. Anybody who thinks
that they're competing with Bruce, they're not.

771
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.280
They're not. He's there, he's
going, he's there. They're not.

772
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:15.079
Yeah, no, you cover the
team. That's good, but you're

773
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:20.079
not. You're not there. Exactly
no percent agree with you on that.

774
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.239
And you know Bruce does good and
you know he's that he's the last guy

775
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:27.400
out of the arena every night,
but a choice choice. I told him

776
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.360
that, we talked about that last
time. We gotta get a pizza.

777
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:36.119
That's shut down, Bruce Waite.
But you know, but you know,

778
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.320
Bruce does a good job and we
get you know, we get as much

779
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:42.280
as we can with the access that
Bruce has, and we rely on him,

780
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.599
you know, we get him on
the show. We read his stuff

781
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.760
and that kind of forms what we
know about about the program. And some

782
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:51.039
of the other guys too, you
know, you know, we know who

783
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:55.119
they are, you know, Troy
Hutchinson's and and but here's the thing,

784
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.960
here's the problem. And everybody does
this more now that it's a group setting.

785
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.320
You asked the questions. Everybody has
the same stuff. And I've heard

786
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.920
this a two or three times now
in the last month or so. Everybody

787
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:09.159
has the same stuff. It's how
they right it. It's right. It's

788
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.599
how you present how you present it
in what way is the difference? Like

789
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.800
today? Okay, look, you're
going to social media and a bunch of

790
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:17.239
guys who are you're not were not
practice, couldn't go to practice? How

791
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:21.360
you know, we got other things
that we have to do. Everybody's talking

792
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:25.079
about how uh Scotty Graham. Discussion
about Scotty Graham, the running backs coach

793
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.239
who made it a point to go
to Mike Michael Wiley's graduation ceremonial. What

794
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:35.559
a big deal that was for both
of them. That's sort of the narrative

795
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.119
coming out of out of today's practice, that the closeness that Scotty Graham has

796
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:45.920
with his running backs and and this
relationship that they have. But everybody I've

797
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.360
seen, you know, eight different
guys have we did that clip. There's

798
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.360
your problem, Jay, when we
were covering back with Bruce and back with

799
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.280
you, and we all had individual
time, right, we all had an

800
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.800
individual time our stories a practice would
end. Yeah, right, you'd go

801
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:02.519
get a player, I'd go get
a player. Sure, we'd all go

802
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.360
talk to Dick, you know,
and you talk to Dick about the conversation

803
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.559
you just had with a player.
And so I mean kind of had an

804
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.679
idea. What do you tell the
stories were? But they were different.

805
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.760
There were different stories. Every day
you had something, I had something without

806
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:21.320
questions. And that's not to the
fault of the local media. It's Arizona

807
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.440
wants it that way. Yeah,
no, yeah, they they again controlling,

808
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:29.000
the controlling the narrative and they do
and look again. As a PR

809
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:32.920
consultant, that's how I've advised my
clients is the make your own news.

810
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.639
You don't need the newspaper anymore.
You don't need you know, You've got

811
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a Facebook page, you got an
Instagram account, you got a Twitter pick.

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Create your own story out there and
let people pick up on that.

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That's how the news has done.
The one thing that people have to realize,

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00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.039
it's gonna be mostly one side.
It is. It's gonna be one

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side. No, that's exactly what
it is anymore. All right, uh

816
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man, we're top of the hour
already, Steve, all right, let's

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take our break. We got a
break in new is coming up here at

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the top, and then we'll have
PJ. PJ. Brown. We'll talk

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to some women's sports, which are
things again started. Soccer starts tomorrow.

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There was a press conference with Rita
Stubbs for Bolli Boss, so I'm sure

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PJ was there. We'll just see
what's going on with the with the ladies

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sports over there. So stick around
for all that don't believe they just wine,

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don't believe they just lie, don't
believe they just well

