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As always, listener, discretion is
advised. And what are your port We

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got someone or something crawling around out
here? Does a legend walk among us

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working in the forests of our world? Do you see what it was?

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Well that a person or an animal
or I can't go all I knowledge that

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my center light came on and I
did that with a glimp. And see

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this thing running across the yard,
A good sized man or something worked like

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a man. I don't know what
it was. For over fifteen years we've

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talked with scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to gain insight and

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truth around the existence of this mysterious
entity. Jesus quite cal Hello, get

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somebody out here. What's going anount
there? I thought of Amicus about sixty

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four. All right, I don't
know, easy amount there? Yes,

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I'm looking right out. Okay,
hang on, he's right. Get in

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your yards there, yeah, got
your big Okay, what do you do

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in your yard? Join us as
we continue into the investigation of the Sasquatch

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Experience. Well, the gangs all
here with Henry partially on, partially off.

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There he is again. It's like
the Brady Bunch. We had one

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more road of this cold be here, Alice. Good evening, guys,

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folks, welcome back Sasquatch Experience from
Monday, July the third, twenty twenty

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three, the day before Independence Day, and we're here to talk about the

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Skunk Ape or the Swamp Apes Part
two. Last show, we did a

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little discussion of some of the historical
points in the Skunk Ape Swamp Epe stories

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as we talked about that southern part
of the United States. And tonight we

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thought we'd bring along a couple of
friends to continue on with that. We

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brought Mike from Tactical Bigfoot Research and
Where's My Stage Podcast. He's on the

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show with us. Mike, thanks
for joining us tonight, my friend.

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Thank you for having me. Guys, I appreciate hanging out with you tonight.

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We've got Henry May back down there
right below me. James Baker of

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course, Matt Arner ants nesbit nice
pointing up their James I like messages.

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I got differential issues different definitely a
month. Yeah, yeah, for us

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two dollars a month. You can
help James Baker send all the sign language.

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You can get him some WD forty
Baker needs. Baker needs w D

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forty in a new cam for that
chair. And believe it or not,

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guys, he'd posted today was James
Baker's very first unboxing video and we posted

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that up for our patreons. Always
adding new content, lots of things coming

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down the pipeline. We just got
so much going on, guys. And

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of course it's been announced Monster Fest
two coming next year at the end of

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what it would be this weekend next
year. Uh and uh back in downtown

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can't Ohio, And guys, we
are, well, we're signed up,

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so we're going to be there.
I'm sure there'll be some formal announcation coming.

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Seth asked me if we'd like to
do another live show, and you

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know, according to Mike and according
to Baker and everybody, our show was

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pretty well attended at the live session, so we were glad to be able

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to do that. But guys,
we're not here to continue to listen to

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me blowviate. We're here to talk
about the swamp eights and when we last

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spoke, I asked you guys to
gather some stories. But while you collect

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your thoughts, we'll talk about Mike
and Mike your trips down to down to

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Florida in search of the Skunk Cave. One. Why the hell would you

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want to go there being so hot
and humid and gross, And what did

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you find when you were down there? Well, the interesting thing is I

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usually go every year for a family
trip. And then I met another YouTuber,

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Matt Larson from the Sun Before a
big Foot a couple of years ago

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and come back that turned back to
that second. But I also got some

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friends from Naked Afraid, So my
buddy Aaron Phillips had asked me to come

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down. I met through an life
show and you knew I had interested in

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Bigfoot. And we went down into
a really interesting area near Apoca, Florida,

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and they kept hearing monkey sounds and
stuff like that. So we went

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in by kayak a couple of miles
in and in the swamp area and it

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really got to be an interesting location. The particular spot they're old, you

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know, the old shotgun shacks along
the river bank and federal land on one

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side, stayed on the other But
these little shotgun shacks are basically family owned

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and this one they used for a
boy scout camp. So we went in

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locked up in there at night and
it was an experience to go in and

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listen and actually did a live from
out there. But Aaron said they kept

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hearing monkey sounds and up in that
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that were released there, the herpes
monkeys, peanut butter ones, yeah,

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herpies monkeys, So yeah, you'll
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on kayaks and stuff like that.
So giving you her pies you can catch

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them from from those guys, yeah, if you get bit or something like

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that. So we went in.
We spent you know, an overnight in

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there, um and it was kind
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know, the only way in by
kayak. The particular rivers shut down at

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night. Uh, you know,
got some little sounds here and there.

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You know, something kept throwing things
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kept falling oyon. We can't say
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hours as we snored, as we
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know had a bear try to come
into camp. So it was an interesting

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location but looking at um the area
and the flora fauna. So Aaron's a

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guide down there on this particular stretch
and it actually took Forest Galante in there.

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That's where a Christie Chris is my
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filmed and did a lot of stuff
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it was kind of interesting to go
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sounds on that rue. But because
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my Instagram met up with Matt Larson
from Central Florida Big Book, and Matt

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took the Northern Boy the New York
are down and kind of walked me through.

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And it's a difference experience doing what
we've got up here in the Northeast.

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You know, my area has been
western New York into Pennsylvania and mass

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and Vermont. To go down there
and you have to worry about snakes more

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often, and you know, the
foliage and the animal life and everything like

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that. So the experience of what
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up. And we've done three h
three day, you know, we've done

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a couple of days over the last
three years but I try to get at

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least one day or two days out
with Matt and whoever he's got down there

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from another channel and talk gear and
tacking and see where we can come across.

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So it's it's been an interesting run
on that. So now you said

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you had something throwing rocks at the
shack of whatnot? You know, I

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can I say it, you know, I can't confirm when we are enough,

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you know, you know, we
got some shadows around the GoPro.

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But again going back out there and
taking a look, he're in the middle

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of the swamp. I mean,
could have been something else, you know,

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hitting it because we're morning up,
we didn't see it. It's the

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audio at night, you know,
I snore, Aaron snores, something hits

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the side of the thing. Nothing, I snore, he snores. Something

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else decided it, you know.
So yeah, let's let's cut that out

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saying it's it's not a rock throwive
rock throw, you know, like I've

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had in the Adirondack or something like
that. But it was just kind of

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funny. It's like we snore,
then something hits the side of the cabin,

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snore and it's eight. You know, it's a good couple of hours

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after we finally crashed, we uh
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deer come up and I got some
video thought them coming up through not looking

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at us, scared of what coming
towards us, but what was behind that?

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So again, what do they have? Again? We had a bear

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con through camp that night, so
definitively what have we got? Yes?

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No, maybe? All right?
It's an interesting area, you know,

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to get in and try things out. And again that was one of my

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first runs through to actually look for
the skuntcake in Florida. So so,

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Mike, I got a quick question
for you regarding the bear. I believe

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that it's black bear. They're not
you know, seven foot all on their

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hind legs type of black bear.
I believe they're a little bit smaller even

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though that they're there. But I've
got another question that I haven't heard a

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whole lot of feedback coming out of
even the Everglades. Is the notorious tree

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knox. Is that a thing?
And with the skunk apes with the tree

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knocks, I haven't heard the tree
knocks while I'm down there. Matt's got

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some video coming out about knocks this
week. I hope I was allowed to

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give that out. Yeah, it's
it's but I didn't hear much in knocks.

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But again, you know, I
know you guys mentioned Scott's mapping project,

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you know, and you've got the
BFRO site. Folks are going to

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those same areas and I pretty much
have given up on the knocks and the

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screams and yells and everything like that
because it's been so inundated with words.

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Ago. Um, you know,
I got over to my yaka. You

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know, you look around, and
you know, you look for the mupper

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stickers, you look for the window
stickers. How many bigfoot things are you

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seeing? You know, mark in
a vehicle when you're going through those areas

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and what are you going out?
Hey, I'm here, I'm taking you

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know, my you know, tourist
photo and then knock, knock, knock.

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You know. So, you know, you make a great point with

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that, Mike, And we've talked
about that in the past, going to

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these areas now which tend to become
oversaturated with the kind of pop cultural the

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Kottkey I don't know, cuteness of
the skunk ape and people that want to

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go out and go on skunk ape
hunts. It kind of dilutes the area

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for us to be able to go
out and do actual scientific research because it's

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so contaminated. Well yeah, and
that and the fact is if there is

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an animal there and its goal is
not to be noticed, then it's going

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to back away further into a more
reclusive area, you know, just because

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there's that much. And again,
you take somebody from the Northeast that goes

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to Florida and the family does the
you know, the beach thing or the

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fishing thing, and you say,
I'm going to go out and swamp for

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a little bit. Hey, Johnny, Um, you know you're not.

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We're from up here, we're not
Floridians. The scene as that they came

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up here. They're not used to
what we're seeing, what we're hearing for

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the vegetation. You know, I
have a whole video on pine cones falling,

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and it sounds like tree knox.
It sounds like stuff getting thrown.

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It sounds like footsteps because there's those
one pound pine cones are coming down,

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they're hitting and going and again you're
there in Florida. Those pine cones down

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there are just as big, but
again going down as somebody from somewhere else

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in the country. That's why I've
had the blessing of the folks that I

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got out with it to learning the
environment down there. That's why I can't

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say one thing or another because it's
something else. So it's very responsible too,

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you know. Just to your point, we had a situation out in

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our area where we had taken some
taken some people out, and they mistaken

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eggcorns dropping for rock throws. You
know, Oh, something just got thrown

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at us. Now, no,
that wasn't a throw, that was a

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drop. Watch and then here they
go again. Go ahead, you make

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a valid you make a valid point, because the fact is is, like

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me and Sean have learned from being
just in the three acres I own.

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You hear stuff in the woods all
the time. It's like what is that?

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What is that? But you're there
long enough you're like, oh,

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yeah, that's a woodpecker or oh
just something you know, that's I noticed

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there's a bird up there and he
knocks him off his nest or or the

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deerer moving. Like if you're not
from that area and you don't know what

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animals to think of, you don't
know that there's snakes in the trees and

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and different things and whatever you're looking, you know, Like I put my

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foot though, I went to go
move wood, and I found two snakes

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while I was trying to move the
woodpile. So you know, like,

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but I wasn't scared because I had
an idea what they were. Well after

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I stopped screaming like a little girl. But like I wasn't as scared because

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I knew what to look for.
But if I was in Florida and I

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didn't know the difference between a brown
snake and a coral snake, I could

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have died, you know what I
mean. But since I'm from Pennsylvania,

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like, Okay, that's just a
brown snake, or that's a that's one

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of those black um not a cotton
mouth, but just a mouse eating you

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big snake. You know. So
like you make valid points. You want

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to go out with somebody local because
one they know what to do, and

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secondly they know where the local hospital
is, you know, kind of help,

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you know, I pick up the
little trifolders. I know they're they're

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I think they're all around the side
here, you know, the local snakes,

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the local birds, the local mammal. I mean again, we're all

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up here in the north. I
mean, how us to come across to

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armadillos. You know, we've got
our wood ats and everything else, you

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know, running around, but you
get an armadillo going through something you think

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you know it's coming for it.
Um, you know, the second time

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or the first time out down there, you know, we came across the

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whole area of pig sign in the
swamp, you know, very closely green

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swamp. And while we're there,
you know, we find a deer carts

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and the hair is like in piles
in one spot, and I'm looking for

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that hunter, that biologist or whatever
can kind of explain this because pig sign

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everywhere, but nothing's chewed on the
deer cart disc. But yet we've got

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a full pile of hair aw from
and it's not like the coyotes grabbed it

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and dragged it or the skin,
you know, the skins still there.

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There's no there's no I mean,
mats video. I mean, that's that's

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a great thing. Is that?
So the bear through the camp we were

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doing a we're doing a live stream
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because we're in the middle of the
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that whole thing in documentation, especially
now there for Ross coming back to go

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back and look at that stuff.
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So you as a you know,
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what's going on. And again then
you gotta ad the insects on top of

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these snakes and other things. You
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you don't know what's going to get
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lately. Wow, But how unusual
is that to find the hair in that?

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What else would have created something like
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seen it hearing you. I don't
know. Ye, So think about that,

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think about you know you guys as
hunters, think about what's there.

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But I mean again, there's pig
sign everywhere in fash pig sign. Why

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carcass not not on choot on corn
up Um this last area in Um with

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Matt, you know, we put
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oh what's this little thing? You
could tell it was like an old well

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and pigs were using it, you
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You know, you know it's what
you're gonna find. Again, excuse

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me the difference between here and there
you know, we're not you guys,

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at least north end, you're gonna
get some more pigs in that color scheme

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that we're gonna see. They're getting
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we saw something else. It ended
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Um, you know what's that smell? Oh, my god's futurd it's

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whatever. Well, it's just shutter. Yeah, it was a bunch of

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scat, you know, right,
giving me that dead smelly whatever in the

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middle of the swamp, right,
you know, with myself camping up in

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at least the northern part of the
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morning and you hear a beaver smack
in its tail in the water, that's

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enough to make you crap your pants
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after a period of time you start
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that's just beaver slaps in the water
of their tail. But boy does that

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make a racket. And it goes
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have a local in the area that
you know this is exactly what this is.

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But there's still some of those mysteries, like you just brought up with

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the deer. That is not that
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of these two. That's what thank
you get there? You go build mice

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and birds gather hair collect it in
a side location to you that way true?

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Right, No, that's true.
But do they gather that much?

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That's a thing, you know,
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to know. Again, that's why
I go out there. I don't say

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one thing or another. It's documentation
of what we're gonna find out there.

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And okay, so what do we
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weird that that particular carcass wasn't fed
on. And I'm not saying one way

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or another, but this is great. I'm gonna, you know, when

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we get off tonight, I'm gonna
go dig in on the field most thing,

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because right, birds per se,
but you know I will for one

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thing, it matters what part of
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And well, you know in Flora
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yes, as much. But for
a lot of birds in Florida and whatever

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that's their summer, winter or spring
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you know, But here the animals
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know. And I will say,
for you know, my expeditions to Florida,

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for the half a dozen times that
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there is a carcass um, whether
it it's in a remote area, it

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doesn't take very long for the vultures
to get to that carcass and it's gone

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and within a matter of short period
of time. And when I say short

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period of time, we're talking between
six and eight hours, and that carcass

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is pretty well picked clean. So
for something to not have been predicated upon

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yet, that's kind of fascinating too. Unless it just need a little bit

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more time for that sent to carry
to other wildlife that you know, predate

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on those dead carcasses. I don't
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lot of that in Florida. I
mean it didn't matter where you went to

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there's a dead animal, you had
turkey vultures all over that and they'll sit

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there and they'll look right at you
in the eye and go, really you

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want to take this? Yeah,
I'll fight you for it because you could

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come right up to them and they
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They're not gonna budge, and they're
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a little different than the ones that
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get within you know, ten yards
of them, they kind of flee the

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area. But I noticed in Florida
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yeah, no, they throw there. If they had a middle finger,

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they would throw it up at Yet
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too, Oh, one thing.
It was that in Florida. Um,

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we're talking about higher temperatures, higher
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internally, they're thriving in that environment. So it's kind to be odd to

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find a whole carcass. You know. Now obviously the inside is being uh

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is being e you know by these
microbes. But uh, but again comparing

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it to up here, we don't
have that eighty degrees with ninety percent humidity,

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which is really prevalent to to make
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uh, you know, uh eat
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man, that's a very good plus. You got you got gators,

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and you got you got stank.
Yeah, you know, basically the thing's

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gonna stink quicker. Well, but
it's gonna stay quicker at that degrees and

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it would be up. You know, I've seen like we've drove by deer

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and the next day I went to
work in the same deer's there and unless

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Pendot picks that sucker up, he's
gonna be there until the end of the

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league. Yeah, we got blow
you know in the circle back every gpef

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jerkey off your boss's desk, the
circle back to the beaver thing you're gonna

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with gator slaps and stuff at night. So I had the pleasure of this

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last time going down, and I
bought a new thermal camera before I went

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down and got the meat with my
sales guy. So he actually took me

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out to the glades near the you
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You know where you could shoot for
you know, miles with this this minor

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a little tank here. You know, she gets out there and shoots.

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But you know, watching gators and
even gators on thermal, if you don't

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have a good one, you're not
going to see them moving unless you're really

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looking for that water stuff. So
puting it out of the water with the

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air temp and everything like that.
You know, we learned a lot about

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what thermal sensors are worked down in
Florida a little t K and then against

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something bigger. It's a total different
run on things. You know. Now,

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like last time we had the show, we talked about the you know,

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the monkeys, We talked about the
potentiality for misplace apes. What are

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your thoughts on that? Do you
think that some things that can be well,

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let's let's take a look at the
Mayaka skunk ape photograph. You know,

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Lauren Coleman gets it it, gets
it sent to him, becomes kind

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of a sensation in the early two
thousands. What do you think Is it

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possible in your mind that some of
these skunk ape sightings are nothing more,

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weren't gonna misplaced ape. You know, I think you guys really hit I

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really enjoyed that last episode, Seohan. You know I sent a message right

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after. Um. Yeah, I
mean, you guys hit it on the

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head. You know, you have
all these different groups that were there,

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all the private ownership, the you
know, the eighties drug stuff that was

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going on. You know, you
went to pirates, you know at this

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time frame, the crappy zoos.
Yeah, I mean that that whole thing.

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I mean, where's this you know, a lot of these things are

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coming out of you know, what
did somebody do? You know? Up

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here we have people that were getting
the hybrid wolves and stuff like that and

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letting those loose. So we I
mean, if you spent any time close

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to some of the larger primates,
even the little ones, if they're angry,

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you're not going to keep going on
the house. No no, not

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when your face off. No no, no, I mean or guys on

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bath. But yeah, but it
really gives a good point that you guys

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brought up that are these were these
I wouldn't say domesticated, but pats that

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were released because it got too big, you know, the old allegory and

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the sewer thing, even though we're
talking Porta and that thing. But that

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made a really good point. And
here we talk about the herkees apes or

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the monkeys there you know, right
you yeah, you got you got a

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colony of these you know primates that
are out there that again, what were

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they there? You know, you
know there's the old stories, all the

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movies and stuff that were shot.
What happened those things when you get done

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filming? You know? Right?
Yeah, no, that's true, Ed

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Mike. To go back to what
we did in the last show. You

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know, I just threw up the
point and I don't want to make it

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about me. But it does not
have to be one thing, No,

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it does. It could be a
variety of different creatures that are out there

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that are primate or a Bigfoot type
related creature. Yeah, I think that's

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very possible. And again we get
you know, I talk a lot about

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going back to those original stories.
I know you guys do. I mean,

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you guys are one of the first
podcasts. I mean a lot of

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my eyes came from you older guys
that have been around for a while.

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You know. It's yeah, I
mean, there's the possibility on both sides

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of the house, and there's Matt
now, you know, it's just what

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we can get is just it's there. There's there's so many possibilities. And

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again I'm not full time researching down
there. I got down there, you

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know, I had Aaron to take
me out twice up in his area.

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Matt's taking me out three times with
a couple other guys down there, some

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that don't want to be out in
the public eye, you know. And

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then we got on Scott's you know, Bigfoot Mapping project app and literally,

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hey, can we drive here?
Can we drive there? You know,

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see where these sightings are. I've
got a guy I worked with says,

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back in the seventies, he was
riding rodeo and he's crossing you know,

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Timmy Amy trail, and he hit
a Shetland pony, he says, which

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I find ironic because you watch sets
the whole thing on Alaska, the not

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the last one, but the first
one. There. One of the witnesses

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says, you know, we saw
what we thought was a Shetland I mean

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literally, I thought I was talking
to that guy. And I happened to

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talk to this this gentleman the other
day and he says, here the locals

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show up with a you know,
on a pickup truck, and they've got

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the mob, you know, with
the pitchforks and the lights and shotguns,

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and they're like, you know,
where's the where's the eight, where's the

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skun cape? What are you talking
about? We're sorry, we hit your

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your Shetland pony. No, no, no, where's the skun cape?

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And then highway patrol sholds up and
says, hey, you know this is

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out here, you know with that
go back in seventies and there were a

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lot of sightings in that area.
And when you ask this guy, he's

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like, Hey, what's going on, It's like, I don't know,

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man, you know what's in that
area? What's that history? But again,

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we're not down there all the time, so we gotta go with what

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we get from the locals or whatever, against like being a tours sometimes.

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So true. Oh, pretty fascinating. I'm reading the comments that are coming

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in. Thanks Sean for posting those. Well, this one says, Hey,

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guys, I'd say with the descriptions
that differ so much, there's so

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many races, it's remarkable and we
really don't know. I don't know about

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race or whatnot, but I think
we desine different species of something because,

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like you said, vans and like
you know, and we talked about this

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ad nauseum last show, so I
won't you know, you know, drive

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a point at home. But the
regional variety of the sighting reports also that

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you get from Foulk, Arkansas,
and you get from Louisiana and in the

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Southern States. If you guys remember
the old GCBRO website, golf those Bigfoot

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Research Organization. A lot of stories
and one of the things that I always

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found a little bit more remarkable than
in some of the areas was the aggressiveness

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of these skunk gapes and right,
you know, you know, as we

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move on here in a little bit
after we take our break. UM,

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just fixing Henry. They're sorry for
the delay, Welcome back, Henry.

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Um is that some of these reports
that we get are My favorite is the

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one from Georgia where the hunter's in
the tree stand and he sees the lunch

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onto this pig and breaks this pig's
neck neck right and just throws it over

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his shoulders and you know, drives
off. And the guy describes this thing

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as making eye contact with him,
right, and it's scared the shit out

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of this man to the point he
was doing his business. This is it,

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this is its nature and I'm just
going to go about to my business.

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Yeah, that would be terrifying to
see that. What this is our

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real world right now? Oh that's
crazy. Well, and that's the world

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we're living. But folks, we
are going to take a quick break here.

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It's that time. We're gonna take
a moment for the bigfoot bullhorn.

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We'll be back right after this team. I'll send people send me videos of

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Bigfoot stuff after shows all the time, and they send it to me on

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YouTube, and you guys know YouTube. It plays one video, then it

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plays the next one automatically, then
it plays the next one automatically, then

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it plays the next one automatically.
Nine hours later. I've seen all the

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conspiracy theory videos. Now I don't
trust anything. My wife's like, we

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got leftovers in the fridge and like
that's what they want you to think.

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Ah. Yes, and the happy
fourth of July week to you on this

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Monday night declaration of independent signing.
Eve, may your firecracker not be insulted

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with that racial slur. So it
is skunk ape time. So here's a

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00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:25.400
brief PBS interview with Dave Sheeley from
the Big Cypress in the Everglades of Florida.

409
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:33.640
And yes, technically he is a
Florida man. People hear about the

410
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.480
big Foot. People know about the
big Foot, but not a lot of

411
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.680
people have know about skunk capes.
The skunk capes that we have here in

412
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:47.640
the Everglades are different. My name
is Dave Shelley. I'm the lead researcher

413
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.880
at skunk Ape Research Headquarters in O'choppy, Florida. Growing up here in the

414
00:31:52.000 --> 00:32:00.599
Everglades was wonderful. It was a
wild and free country they called to last

415
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.440
front tier. I don't know that's
true or not, but for me as

416
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.039
a kid, it was. When
I was ten years old, I saw

417
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:13.799
what other people, older people had
described to me as being a skunk ape,

418
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.160
an animal about seven feet tall.
It just never ended. I've just

419
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:22.480
always wanted to find out more about
what I saw. In my years of

420
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:30.559
research here in the Big Cypress,
I've had four separate occasions where I've spotted

421
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:36.400
skunk apes in the wild. We
have had a lot of sightings reported at

422
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.079
the research headquarters. Some years are
slower than others, but one year we

423
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:46.000
had over two hundred and fifty sightings
reported. Seeing a skunk ape is an

424
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:52.480
unbelievable experience, just simply because the
time involved in putting yourself in a position

425
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:58.359
where you can get a photograph or
get a beauty for a minute. It

426
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.640
just kind of leaves you speech and
you know you wish you had more people.

427
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:08.160
You say, there there. It
is thanks to PBS for not putting

428
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:14.200
me behind bars, for lifting that
interview of Dave Sheeley again. You can

429
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:20.039
find Dave's work on YouTube. You
just look up Dave Sheeley s h e

430
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:27.440
A. L Y at the skunk
Ape Research Headquarters out of O'chappy, Florida,

431
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:32.319
and of course he's the one that
will present the photograph. And it's

432
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:37.839
a pretty famous photograph. I mean
famous. It's made its rounds on the

433
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:44.960
Internet of what looks like a skunk
ape walking through very tall sawgrass in the

434
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:51.440
Everglades. Again, thanks to PBS
for letting me lift that without being shackled

435
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:55.359
and frog marched to the back of
a squad car. When we come back,

436
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a couple of important announcements to be
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to make. First off, I
am adopting. Yes, my best girl

446
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and myself are adopting. Thank you
very much. It is a highway,

447
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but we're gonna name her Elaine Mercer, Lawrence County Chapter of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot

448
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Project. We'll have a meet and
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D E r apostrophe S Restaurant in
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450
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August twenty fourth of this year.
Dinner will be at five pm and

451
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the meeting at six, which gives
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pie hole. Just make sure you
don't have any spinach stuck in your teeth.

453
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This event is open to everyone.
The regional lead, Ben Duckett,

454
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will be there. Thanks again for
listening to this edition of the big Foot

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Bullhorn exclusively on the Sasquatch experience.
And until next time, keep your toes

456
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:43.960
in the mud. Well, thanks
vance. My toes are quite firm and

457
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:50.119
plainted in the mud. It's fun
time for pedicure anyhow I can go for

458
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.760
one, folks, welcome back Sasquatch
experience Monday, July the third, twenty

459
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:58.320
twenty three, as we are on
the eve of Independence Day, and thank

460
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:02.039
you Vance for the news segment,
the big Football Horn and some of those

461
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.599
great events coming up, and I
know we're getting ready to be a part

462
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:13.360
of the Central Pennsylvania Bigfoot and Cryptidfest
out there in the I'll be speaking,

463
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:17.880
James Baker will be with me,
Matt Arner will be speaking getting three for

464
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.400
the price of two actually, because
Baker always ends up doing one of these

465
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.239
presentations with me. And then of
course in October, I'll be doing the

466
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.000
Albutwitch Festival in Columbia, Pennsylvania,
which I'm really excited about. It's a

467
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:34.519
great festival. They've been doing it
for a very long time. Rick Fisher

468
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.079
asked me to be a part of
it several times, with this is the

469
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.079
first time they could actually fit it
into the calendar, so it's going to

470
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.400
be a great time. Now,
enough of the shameless promotion. Back to

471
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:45.280
what folks came to listen to tonight, and that's more about these damn stinky

472
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:52.039
swamp apes. Gentlemen and I know
they've had enough of me talking, mister

473
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.159
Arner, mister May who keeps popping
in and out of here like a gopher.

474
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.239
Baker. What do you guys got, what's on your mind with the

475
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:06.039
stinky, stinky skunk ape. Well, I want to thank um Oh go

476
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:12.880
ahead, Oh go ahead. I
want to thank our guests for kind of

477
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.280
you know, going with my theme
from last week was the fact is you

478
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:23.280
know that I believe a good portion
of these un undocumented apes and they kind

479
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.519
of call it a skunk cape,
and I go with that of the cryptids

480
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:34.039
just for the fact is is that
there's so much that connors to that that

481
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.360
there's so much that that is so
plausible. But I have to be careful

482
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:43.360
because I don't want to do the
one thing a lot of researchers do is

483
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.000
I have a theory, Let's fit
the facts to the theory instead of seeing

484
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:51.559
where the facts go to see what, you know, whether it's against my

485
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.079
theory or not. But I just
feel with Florida and all the extra animals

486
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.800
you know that you you know,
you say about you know, the recess

487
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.400
monkeys, you know, and the
variety of other things, there's a lot

488
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.880
of creatures down there that don't belong
there, but yet they're piling up.

489
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.880
You know, Like I said earlier, kind of Florida's slowly turning into Australia

490
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.000
with just being filled with animals that
want to kill you, right, you

491
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:20.599
know, and at that whole area
from Florida Louisiana, that swamp area is

492
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:25.000
just ripe for creatures that creatures that
just want to be left alone and want

493
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.519
to you know, become key you
know, and they start to become you

494
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:35.119
know, keystone species like the alligator
and the crocodile. Florida's alligators. Yeah,

495
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.400
but they okay, but they're keystone
species in most cases because they kind

496
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:44.559
of dominate what everything else is around
them. Now you've got you've got the

497
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.039
feral pigs, and you've got apes
and aren't supposed to be there, are

498
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:51.480
going to give you herpes. You
got killer you know, you got a

499
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:57.360
killer what they call death hornets,
and you got those big yellow spiders now,

500
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.559
and and snakes that aren't supposed to
be there. So, I mean,

501
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.599
Florida's kind of packing up with animals
that just want to take you out,

502
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.599
and you know, they're not indigenous
to the area. That's true,

503
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.719
you know, driving because of the
weather. Yes, they're driving because they're

504
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:21.039
in the tropic zone. We've had
we've had circumstances up here in northern Illinois

505
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.840
where people have released the piranhas that
they bought. They get a little too

506
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.960
big for the fish tank, so
they release them in the lake. Well

507
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:36.360
that's a limited lifespan because we go
through a winter season and they'll clearly die.

508
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.360
But the point is people do this. People suck. They buy boa

509
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.840
constrictors, they get too big for
their household, and then they let them

510
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.679
go in the everglades, thinking well, it's only one boa constrictor. Yeah,

511
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.719
but you had thirty thousand other people
doing the same damn thing. Letting

512
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:01.400
these boa constrictors out in the everglades. It can thrive, it can need

513
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:06.280
a variety of animals, you know, whether some of it's good or not,

514
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.400
you know, rats and so on
and so forth. But I have

515
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:15.960
a feeling that the same thing was
done with primates because it's a tropical zone

516
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:21.400
and they can live year round without
you know, suffering any kind of severe

517
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:25.360
winter. Right. And also if
you lift if you you know, in

518
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.039
part of my theory is if you
leave the animal out in New York,

519
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.320
even Chicago, anywhere else when it
starts to get cold, they'll work like

520
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:37.559
a duck. Oh, let's migrate
down south, Let's migrate down here,

521
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:42.519
let's whatever, because you realize that
with nothing obtrucing it or nothing in the

522
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.639
way, it's not like us who
has to stop and get a burger every

523
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.760
so often and whatever. They could
move down south in a month in Chicago.

524
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:54.639
No, but I mean as soon
as it's let out. Oh hey,

525
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:58.079
it's let out, and let's say
the spring, and then during the

526
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.880
summer it starts to realize it's gonna
are getting cold, you're gonna start moving.

527
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.360
I do find, and I'm not
trying to get off subject, but

528
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:12.159
I do find a natural migration of
the bull shark that comes up to southern

529
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:19.000
Illinois up the Mississippi River. That's
pretty fascinating within itself because a bull shark

530
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:23.119
is one of the most aggressives outside
of a mako shark. But they're very

531
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:28.119
aggressive and they get pretty big,
and they come up to Mississippi into southern

532
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:34.840
Illinois. It's like, okay,
so oh no, no, they adapt

533
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:40.079
to the freshwater. Oh yeah,
they do. They adapt well. So

534
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.280
if you take it you know,
being able to adapt to a climate and

535
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:52.159
to an environment. I don't understand
what the big difference is that an oranguon

536
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.840
tang or a chimpanzee or a billy
ape or anything else. I was brought

537
00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:02.599
into southern Florida, including an actual
type of primate which may be a skun

538
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.679
gape that we all talk about,
wouldn't be able to adapt and walk bipetally

539
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:14.679
in order to transport itself through a
swampy area without getting its entire body wet.

540
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:22.400
Yeah, it's possible, all right. Thanks. I had a question

541
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.360
for Mike, and the one thing
is is Mike and I are, you

542
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:30.440
know, very much into the tech. We're very much into going out into

543
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:40.119
the field. And Mike, you'd
mentioned about thermal cameras and can you elaborate

544
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:45.480
a little bit on thermal cameras that
you would use in a high temperature setting

545
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.760
because I did see through the chat
comments we are getting a lot of people

546
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:55.480
from Florida, So maybe that you
know that one thermal camera that that's being

547
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.880
sold online may not be able to
work or wouldn't that be able to work?

548
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:01.840
Well, I mean I have to
go down there and spend a lot

549
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.719
more time with the stuff that that's
out there. Um. But uh,

550
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.360
you know when I first started,
I you know, I started with a

551
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.639
little the little seat, you know, which is a contractor's grade set up.

552
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.440
Um. Then I moved up to
something a little bit a bigger censor.

553
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.239
I mean, you're gonna run.
And then this last time, you

554
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:27.400
know, we went out with the
monster, you know, and again the

555
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.639
censors and what they can pick up
are going to be so much different.

556
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:37.599
And again this last time, we
were out with a little t K that

557
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.559
Matt who's in the chat, had
and he's like, oh, I think

558
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.159
there's and we've got you know,
we're doing alive and he's like, oh,

559
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.400
there's something moving behind a tree.
But that censor wasn't really picking up

560
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:50.639
much. To the point I walked
behind him with a three eighty four censor

561
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.679
and said, hey, this is
what you got now here, Let's try

562
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:58.960
a six forty censor. That's you
know, the rate and stuff like that

563
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:04.000
is totally different. But the same
thing that you're gonna have in Florida with

564
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.440
the heat you'd have in the northeast
or anywhere you know up north where it's

565
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.800
snowing. And I've had that same
problem with the sensors. If the air

566
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.880
temperature, in the ground temperature and
what you're looking at or the same temp

567
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.639
you're gonna lose what you're looking for
unless you have the best bang for your

568
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:24.119
buck. You know. That's that's
the thing, is that how much,

569
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:29.320
how much you're putting into that sensor
is gonna gonna play out. Um.

570
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.320
And again I've had it happen in
Florida the first time I set the camera

571
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.320
up. You know what you can
use. Sometimes you just see those guys

572
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.320
use the different color palettes. Um, that give you a little different But

573
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:44.840
when you use a color palette and
you got the rainbow bright and everything else

574
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.639
like that, it's really cool for
color. But you don't have definition use

575
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.960
the black or the white hots you've
got more, um, you know,

576
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:57.079
set up. And again it's not
always going to happen, but you're gonna

577
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:01.039
get one day here or one day
there that you're going to get that lock

578
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:06.039
up where you've got trees and the
ground and everything is all at that same

579
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.360
temperature. Um. You know,
I know Marie's out there quite a bit.

580
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:14.440
Um. You know you're there and
it's gonna ahead. You're gonna you're

581
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:15.880
gonna see things. But like I
said, it's the same thing you'd happen

582
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:21.719
to northeast as you'd have down there. Sometimes if all your ambient temperatures are

583
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.800
at the same time, and it
could be that one time a day that

584
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:30.480
it's it's just there, you know, um you know it running scopes or

585
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.800
running an aerial set up on the
drone. Again, it's the same thing

586
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.760
if it just happens to be all
those cards are perfectly in a row to

587
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.480
knock that that house down. You're
not gonna get it. But again,

588
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.480
you know, spend a little more
for the sensors you're gonna get so you

589
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.280
get a little more definition. I
guess that would be the best you're gonna

590
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.719
look at. So that's a great
advice, great advice, especially for people

591
00:46:53.760 --> 00:47:00.400
that are that are again are in
the in the Florida, um people even

592
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.599
up here, or it's you know, spend that money, you know,

593
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.719
but it's worth it. It absolutely
is worth it to get those readings.

594
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.199
And that's it. Make yourself friends
with somebody somewhere else in a country.

595
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.719
You know, we're friends with a
lot of those folks that are over you

596
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.159
know, in the op what they're
doing on that coast, and you know

597
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:28.239
at they're parallel what you guys are
doing. It's bakers. Yeah, I

598
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.519
mean yeah, some of the fire
department set ups are nice for up close,

599
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:37.039
but you know, this particular bad
boy, I can get a human

600
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.519
sized target at a half mile.
I can get a heat signature at two

601
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:44.599
miles, you know, And there's
three years difference between that sensor and this

602
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:47.840
one here, which is about half
the range, you know, or the

603
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:51.000
little seating the plugs in your phone. I mean, it just change.

604
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.119
And I apologize. They're starting the
fireworks of course over here as well,

605
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.760
So I don't know if the gun
club down the Range Street's gonna start blowing

606
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:04.440
things up again like they No.
I kind of had, you know,

607
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.639
a thought that I kind of think
at some point here, because I've seen

608
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:15.719
some footage already come from drones,
I think maybe the drone footage is going

609
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:22.559
to be probably the most prevalent capture
in daytime. Now I'm not talking nighttime,

610
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:29.840
but I think daytime capture from drones
because they're becoming so much more sophisticated

611
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:37.920
in a stability and clarity. I
just got that gut feeling it may just

612
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:42.800
come from a drone footage. I
don't know. They still make noise,

613
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.920
yeah, but they're getting quieter now. They've got a new blade design that's

614
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:54.000
almost silent. That's the crazy thing. I'm looking at this new technology of

615
00:48:54.440 --> 00:49:01.800
a new blade design that's circular and
it's almost silent. And as they were

616
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:06.000
also going to do this with the
Falcon project that never took flight. You

617
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:12.639
know, I understand that probably would
have been more quiet, right using a

618
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.840
durgible design as opposed to a you
know, rotating blade they just make I

619
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:21.719
personally just make a lot of noise
at this point, Could that change?

620
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:29.039
Absolutely? Uh? I don't know. All the technology we have, though,

621
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:30.159
it's only going to be as good
as the people using it. And

622
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.599
that's why it takes practice. And
I think that's what you know, we're

623
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.880
we're we're getting at that we really
just got to dial in and learn how

624
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.840
to use it. And Sean,
it goes back to the conversation that you

625
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.039
and I had, you know,
even a couple of years ago. It

626
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:52.039
seems like the old school, the
crank, the hand crank, eight millimeter

627
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:58.280
film without batteries, without any electronics, is what's the best thing to capture

628
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:04.320
anything? You know, all right, they got it with the Sierra Sounds.

629
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.760
That was all analogic equipment. Yep. Yeah, And maybe that's the

630
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:13.360
way. I would love to try
that. I would absolutely love to try

631
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.280
to get my hands on the old
equipment and just try it and see.

632
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:22.639
Oh, Matthew if he's down there
and matt a Florida big Foot bought one

633
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:28.119
of those old Kodaks. Yeah,
he's got one of those, and he's

634
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.000
using one of those in the field, right, And that's awesome. Show

635
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.000
like we're gonna have to use your
connection to get him on the program here.

636
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.440
So six he's got the sixteen,
Sorry, not the eight, you

637
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.159
know, but that's I did.
I went up and grab I've got on

638
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.599
Amazon and went and found on the
old recorders, you know, my old

639
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:49.079
boon box from high school, and
use that right, Ron and I moreheaded.

640
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.079
I've had that talk about using that
old stuff, not these new noise

641
00:50:52.199 --> 00:51:00.480
canceling you know, things that are
might be taking something out that we're not

642
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.360
getting. You know that the digital
filtering it out that we make data we

643
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:09.519
may need. That's the problem with
not having the I don't know, the

644
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:15.159
repetitive consistent use and someone paying attention
to the differentiators between the digital NB.

645
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.000
I don't know. Yeah, I
also think the problem Sorry I didn't mean

646
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.440
cut you off, No go ahead. I also think the problem is,

647
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:29.840
and this is something we've had discussion
multiple times, is is that it's how

648
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:34.360
long is that camera out there?
Like when I first put my cameras out

649
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.599
on my land, we didn't get
anything but dear just going over to find

650
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:42.519
out why I disturbed that tree.
As the weeks went on, we got

651
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.039
more animals because they forgot I had
been messing with any of that. But

652
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:51.559
I could always tell when Sean went
over to change the camera camera parts,

653
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.639
or we reposition something or whatever wherever
we were, Like when I grew my

654
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:58.920
pumpkin seeds, when they noticed,
we put the fence up and I put

655
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.320
the hay in. I put everything
in, and the pumpkin seeds and everything,

656
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:07.079
and I put the fertilizer down.
I had more dear sign that whole

657
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:12.280
week because they were checking on why
was he over there and why is that

658
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.760
important? You know, And a
lot of times we talked about these researches

659
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:16.880
and you say, well, hey, I went up to the cabin in

660
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:21.960
the woods. I was there three
days, and I got no camera sign

661
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:23.400
or anything. Well, yeah,
because that cameras only up there for three

662
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:28.360
days. If you could have came
back like three weeks later, not worried

663
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.000
about the camera, because like,
my batteries on my camera last forever,

664
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:34.639
and I think I have some of
them up there two months before, I

665
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.440
know, empty them, okay,
And I get all kinds of footage of

666
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.719
all kinds of animals. But if
I only went by a three day pop,

667
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:50.039
I'd get nothing, you know.
You know now that's why I also

668
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:54.400
feel about these whole drones and stuff. Unless you're talking military grade that is

669
00:52:54.480 --> 00:53:00.519
making no noise, that's actually almost
a satellite, you're not going to see.

670
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:02.920
I don't think you're going to catch
an animal that's been this elusive this

671
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.719
long, because it's going to hear
that thing a quarter mile away compared to

672
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:12.559
you know, some camera that's been
sitting in a tree for three weeks and

673
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.880
it forgets to exist. Right,
You know that your drone's only got a

674
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:20.480
sky, you know, it's got
a ceiling of four hundred feet. You

675
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:24.079
know. I've had the pleasure of
working with some of the big you know,

676
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:28.920
matres with the thermals and everything like
that, and you know, big

677
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:32.599
zooms, and they're they're still noisy
even when you get them up four hundred

678
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:37.559
foot, you know. But and
again the technology is coming along, but

679
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.559
you're looking at you know, twenty
thousand and a bass drone and then you

680
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:43.760
gotta put the cameras on. I
mean, there's some cheaper ones that are

681
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:45.119
out there. I mean, I'm
looking at one right now. It's about

682
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:49.679
eight grand, you know, when
they get a cheaper one for four but

683
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.800
it's got that seam censor, but
it doesn't have a zoom. And then

684
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.519
where can you fly? Where can't
you fly? I mean, if you

685
00:53:55.559 --> 00:54:00.199
don't have your pilot's license and all
that, and if you're going near any

686
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:06.199
of these areas that are nature zones, you're going to be in a heck

687
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:08.119
of a lot of you know,
trouble. You know, it's a lot

688
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:12.920
of education involved in front of these
things, you know. And Cliff and

689
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:15.760
Bobo interviewed to dude, it's down
in Florida and he's he's helping to look

690
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.679
for like wounded deer with drones.
And there's a lot of folks doing that

691
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.519
as well. You know, that's
a whole new industry that's out there.

692
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:27.519
So well, one of those guys
that crab something on thermal, who knows

693
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.719
they could be. You know,
if that's what you're looking for, they

694
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:37.719
maybe those folks to look at.
You know, maybe maybe a less expensive

695
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:45.639
option than the former Falcon project is
maybe to get like a maybe not a

696
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:53.039
weather balloon, but higher um density
with you know, with the material,

697
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:59.559
a balloon that you can put in
an area and having the camera shoot down.

698
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.480
You've got something that's silent. The
only thing, of course, is

699
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:07.760
you got to deal with the winds. But you know, if you got

700
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.920
a creature that's looking up, they
may not look, especially if it's not

701
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.440
making any noise. They may not
look all the way up past the trees,

702
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:20.199
past the tree line. So that's
something to consider as well. When

703
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.000
I got started with this, there
was a gentleman that reached out to me

704
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:25.960
and here in New York that was
using kites. He was using you know,

705
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:31.239
yeah, that's exactly who it was, Alan Gaines. I know Ellen

706
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:37.760
very well. Um, that was
cool, yeah, yep. So I

707
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:45.800
mean talking about that virtually very undetectable, right yep. But again and and

708
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:47.239
you know, going back to the
color and stuff like that, you know,

709
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.880
what you see what I see is
totally different. You know. I

710
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:53.360
talk to you guys down there about
you know, the colors and you know,

711
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:58.480
looking at a wild boar or compared
to what these mayaka s gun gape

712
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:00.920
is the browns and the black and
the whites and stuff like that, that

713
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:06.119
could be a pig for all we
you know, that particular picture isn't right.

714
00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:09.679
But you know, again going back
to the guy with the Shetland pony

715
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:14.320
and that, what are you actually
seeing? I mean, JECI now,

716
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.880
like even up here where we've got
you know, Tayoga, you've got all

717
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:21.800
the wild pigs running around up there
in the same area that we've got a

718
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.400
lot of sightings as well. So
I mean that's the big thing is getting

719
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:29.559
us somebody that's down there knowing what's
going on. I think is very important

720
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.920
to find the sidings. Bill Rigby
and Amy Boo in the chat room,

721
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.159
good friends of ours, good supporters, good researchers. It's okay, Bill,

722
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:42.119
we won't issue any demerits this week, no now. But you know

723
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.199
the thing is, I love how
we put these shows together and we start

724
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:47.039
getting on a topic and we just
start going through and start you know,

725
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.719
discussing I think the things that are
very paramount of research, you know,

726
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:54.679
actual research techniques. I've said before, you know, while struggling to find

727
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.639
an identity for the show anymore,
We're not going to be the guys that

728
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:00.599
tell the scary stories. You know, that's not really what we do.

729
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:07.079
We tell the witness stories. We
discussed technique, we discuss topics. That's

730
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.679
what Sasquatch experience is about. And
you know, of course occasionally we'll start,

731
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.800
I don't know, maybe getting some
stories on here. But this is

732
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.719
the part that I enjoy talking with
researchers, people to get boots on the

733
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:27.320
ground out there doing actual research that
have information to bring back and share.

734
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:31.800
And as we're discussing all these things
tonight, an actual discussion on technology and

735
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:36.840
its applications in the field and drones
and people that actually specialize and use it

736
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:40.840
on the day to day as you
know, to quote a great man and

737
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.840
entertainment. That's such good shit and
I love it and it really is.

738
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:51.760
And you know, we do have
to get the folks from Florida on mid

739
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:58.000
Florida with Marie. We met some
folks Baker when we were at the Smoking

740
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.599
Mountain Bigfoot conference from Florida. That
was fun and you know, interface with

741
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:07.800
them, and like Mike says,
network folks get out there, make acquaintances

742
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.400
and friends with people across the across
the country, across the world, because

743
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:16.559
this isn't just being seen in the
United States. It's being seen in a

744
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:22.199
lot of places globally. You know, you guys know I pushed that Merlin

745
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:23.480
app. We talked about that when
I was on with Girls. I mean,

746
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:27.440
tonight, Matt sent me some audio
from Florida. I mean, hey,

747
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.639
what do you got? You know, it's but having the ability to

748
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:34.880
use what we share here when we're
out with those other folks. I mean,

749
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:36.960
every time I come out with new
tech, I'm trying to use it

750
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:38.559
in Florida and try to use it
in New York. I mean, substrates

751
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:44.320
are different. I mean there's just
so much. Yeah, and it is

752
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:49.880
educating us on what that Georgia,
the Louisiana, the Alabama, the swamps

753
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:54.239
of Texas. It's not us.
We're Northeast folks are doing the West.

754
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:57.400
You know. Well, you know, Mike, I think and you and

755
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:00.719
I talked about this real briefly,
and I'm just kind of bringing it full

756
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:07.320
circle. Is we really have to
be knowledgeable in everything, and a lot

757
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:12.400
of different science is not just you
know, biology, but in geology,

758
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:17.360
and you know, there's a lot
of applications of things meteorology. There's a

759
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.840
lot of applications of science that we
need to use in our day to day

760
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:25.960
while looking for this mystery primate or
mystery animal creature, whatever you want to

761
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:30.800
call it, some day mystery beast. And before we go, I got

762
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:32.960
to do one more thing, folks, a plug for the latest book that

763
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.639
just came out that I've been excited
for, the phenomenal Fasquatch by Matt Pruett.

764
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:44.599
Folks, get yourself a copy on
Amazon nineteen ninety nine. I believe

765
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:46.880
it's what to go in prices for
it. I hit my nose on my

766
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:52.360
microphone. It it's a good book, written in a very great way,

767
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:58.360
it may be, and no bs
and no blown smoke up someone's ass,

768
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:04.039
maybe the modern eu evalent of perhaps
sasquatch states among us nice. I don't

769
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.480
know. I don't want to hype
it up that much. I'm only a

770
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:12.079
couple of chapters in, but it's
good stuff, so good, and I'm

771
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.880
Henry's popping in and out of here
quick. I wanted to get a sound

772
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.199
man he's gone again. I wanted
to get more from Henry, but I

773
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:21.559
don't know if that's possible. To
night, folks, We're gonna get Henry

774
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:23.000
back on. Don't worry, Mike, thanks for coming on with us,

775
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:30.159
man, it's a thank you.
I hope I didn't derail everything no more.

776
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:36.880
We'll have Skunk Swamp Apes Part three. I produce it number all that

777
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.000
we until we drive this part home
and we I think we tackle this subject.

778
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:46.239
There's nothing wrong with multi episode expeditions
into this topic and an area that's

779
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:51.800
got such a history, uh,
that we really needed to talk about.

780
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:58.360
And the thing that just sparked my
interest in it was the kind of resurgence

781
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:04.800
and popularity of Florida. You know, Florida skunk apes because it kind of

782
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.119
ebbs and flows like everything else.
Boggy Creek was the big thing there for

783
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.760
a while. Then it became Florida, you know, and why And as

784
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.239
we talked about Mike, and we
talked about Vance, James and Matt,

785
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:21.320
there was that point of time from
that after post World War two that it

786
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.840
exploded, right, And there's a
reason it exploded. And I'll let you

787
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:30.519
folks make that as you will,
but just go back listen to the episode,

788
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.400
check this one out, and come
back and talk to us some more,

789
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:39.280
guys. Any final thoughts or parting
words or social media plugs other than

790
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:44.320
the fact that you know, you
talk about the Boggy Creek Monster. Could

791
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:47.280
all be the same thing as to
what's going on in Florida. Maybe,

792
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:52.599
And I just give a double thumbs
up to that, because you know,

793
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:57.880
there's a good possibility and I'm excited
to find out if we ever get an

794
01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:01.320
answer to that. Oh, fair
enough, fair enough, Mike. Where

795
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:06.480
can folks find more from you?
You can find me at Where's my Stage

796
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:10.559
on YouTube, Instagram and Facebook or
Tactical Bigfoot Research on Instagram, Facebook,

797
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:15.679
and YouTube. And thank you guys
for letting me share to my channels tonight.

798
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:20.280
And you know, like I said, I thoroughly enjoyed the first episode

799
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:22.800
in listen all the time. So
being part of the rest of this conversation

800
01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:28.480
has been awesome because I drove him. And then if anybody's in, you

801
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:32.000
know, with Caledonia, New York
on the twenty second of June, I

802
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:37.719
will be doing a presentation over there
with Joe Big foot atheist. We're gonna

803
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:42.199
talk about talk about his witness sighting
and how I do research with his witness

804
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:46.440
sighting. So nice, so stuff. So turn out for that fun July

805
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:52.000
not June. Sorry July. And
I was like, is that next year?

806
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:54.599
No? No, no, no, that we have trouble with long

807
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:59.960
term memory. Here, I'm that
way to white you know, White Hall

808
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:01.719
September. I'll be there for that
one too. Oh there you go.

809
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.039
I know we're going somewhere next month
and then yeah, this month and then

810
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:10.840
month man and yeah, yeah,
we got a lot going on, James.

811
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:14.760
I don't expect you to maintain that. I do that for us because

812
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.639
it's it's a lot. Matt,
what about you, buddy, Well,

813
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:23.159
I was gonna say. August twelfth, Murg, Pennsylvania, the Central PA

814
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:30.679
big Foot and Cryptic Festival. It's
the first ever event our great friend and

815
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:37.920
partner when Purcell will be uh the
host and she has some great guests coming,

816
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:42.400
some great vendors um and you know
what, you're right down the road

817
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:50.159
from Canobles, so communement part for
free. So come out if you got

818
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:54.679
plans, you know, to be
in the area. August twelfth, Elisburg,

819
01:03:54.719 --> 01:04:00.000
Pennsylvania, the Central PA big Foot
and Cryptic Festival. Again, Matt

820
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:05.119
and I are speakers at that event. So we want your feedback info with

821
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:15.480
Tasquatch Experience dot com, Baker any
parting gems. Um, if you need

822
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.800
to see me, I'm probably Um, I'm gonna be posting more, trying

823
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:24.559
to do more live videos. I'll
be wearing pants. Um, thank you,

824
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:29.079
there was a request. Um,
but I'm gonna be doing a lot

825
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:31.320
stuff, more stuff out in my
land. Um, it's a lot five

826
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:35.360
six the land if you want to
check it out on Facebook. But I've

827
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:41.159
been trying to do more because like
I learned so much from just being outside,

828
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:45.440
and like me and Sean had the
conversation when we're live at the at

829
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.360
a monster Fest, was as ninety
eight percent of your research is just you

830
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:53.679
standing out in the yard, I
standing out in the woods. Take the

831
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:57.280
time and learn from it. Right, Okay, not everything's going to be

832
01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.280
a big foot. But the nice
thing is if you start to learn about

833
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.239
your area, then you realize that
ninety eight percent of it isn't got a

834
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:05.840
big foot, and then you're able
to see that two percent quicker. All

835
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:10.800
right, no, good point.
That's a good point, right, folks.

836
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:15.039
If Henry was here, he'd say
you all be good or be good

837
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:17.480
at it, so I'm gonna say
it for him. Folks. We'll see

838
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:23.519
you in two weeks. Thanks for
watching. Be Safe. I'm back in

839
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.280
two weeks with all your digits.
Please be safe, don't drink and drive

840
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:32.079
and everybody having fun. To blow
off a finger, you don't get to

841
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:39.679
put it back on. Be responsible. That's all. Another show in the

842
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:48.519
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843
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:53.840
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01:05:54.199 --> 01:06:15.199
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