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folks, welcome back Sasquatch Experience from Monday, July the third, twenty twenty
three, the day before Independence Day, and we're here to talk about the
Skunk Ape or the Swamp Apes Part two. Last show, we did a
little discussion of some of the historical points in the Skunk Ape Swamp Epe stories
as we talked about that southern part of the United States. And tonight we
thought we'd bring along a couple of friends to continue on with that. We
brought Mike from Tactical Bigfoot Research and Where's My Stage Podcast. He's on the
show with us. Mike, thanks for joining us tonight, my friend.
Thank you for having me. Guys, I appreciate hanging out with you tonight.
We've got Henry May back down there right below me. James Baker of
course, Matt Arner ants nesbit nice pointing up their James I like messages.
I got differential issues different definitely a month. Yeah, yeah, for us
two dollars a month. You can help James Baker send all the sign language.
You can get him some WD forty Baker needs. Baker needs w D
forty in a new cam for that chair. And believe it or not,
guys, he'd posted today was James Baker's very first unboxing video and we posted
that up for our patreons. Always adding new content, lots of things coming
down the pipeline. We just got so much going on, guys. And
of course it's been announced Monster Fest two coming next year at the end of
what it would be this weekend next year. Uh and uh back in downtown
can't Ohio, And guys, we are, well, we're signed up,
so we're going to be there. I'm sure there'll be some formal announcation coming.
Seth asked me if we'd like to do another live show, and you
know, according to Mike and according to Baker and everybody, our show was
pretty well attended at the live session, so we were glad to be able
to do that. But guys, we're not here to continue to listen to
me blowviate. We're here to talk about the swamp eights and when we last
spoke, I asked you guys to gather some stories. But while you collect
your thoughts, we'll talk about Mike and Mike your trips down to down to
Florida in search of the Skunk Cave. One. Why the hell would you
want to go there being so hot and humid and gross, And what did
you find when you were down there? Well, the interesting thing is I
usually go every year for a family trip. And then I met another YouTuber,
Matt Larson from the Sun Before a big Foot a couple of years ago
and come back that turned back to that second. But I also got some
friends from Naked Afraid, So my buddy Aaron Phillips had asked me to come
down. I met through an life show and you knew I had interested in
Bigfoot. And we went down into a really interesting area near Apoca, Florida,
and they kept hearing monkey sounds and stuff like that. So we went
in by kayak a couple of miles in and in the swamp area and it
really got to be an interesting location. The particular spot they're old, you
know, the old shotgun shacks along the river bank and federal land on one
side, stayed on the other But these little shotgun shacks are basically family owned
and this one they used for a boy scout camp. So we went in
locked up in there at night and it was an experience to go in and
listen and actually did a live from out there. But Aaron said they kept
hearing monkey sounds and up in that area got a lot of the Reesus monkeys
that were released there, the herpes monkeys, peanut butter ones, yeah,
herpies monkeys, So yeah, you'll see some of those videos of them jumping
on kayaks and stuff like that. So giving you her pies you can catch
them from from those guys, yeah, if you get bit or something like
that. So we went in. We spent you know, an overnight in
there, um and it was kind of interesting going in by thermal, you
know, the only way in by kayak. The particular rivers shut down at
night. Uh, you know, got some little sounds here and there.
You know, something kept throwing things at the side of the cabin or something
kept falling oyon. We can't say one way or another, but for eight
hours as we snored, as we snored, something with hit and then you
know had a bear try to come into camp. So it was an interesting
location but looking at um the area and the flora fauna. So Aaron's a
guide down there on this particular stretch and it actually took Forest Galante in there.
That's where a Christie Chris is my co hosts the area there. They
filmed and did a lot of stuff on the wolf thing down there, so
it was kind of interesting to go in. We really didn't get any monkey
sounds on that rue. But because I started doing that stuff, I through
my Instagram met up with Matt Larson from Central Florida Big Book, and Matt
took the Northern Boy the New York are down and kind of walked me through.
And it's a difference experience doing what we've got up here in the Northeast.
You know, my area has been western New York into Pennsylvania and mass
and Vermont. To go down there and you have to worry about snakes more
often, and you know, the foliage and the animal life and everything like
that. So the experience of what you're picking up, the sounds you're picking
up. And we've done three h three day, you know, we've done
a couple of days over the last three years but I try to get at
least one day or two days out with Matt and whoever he's got down there
from another channel and talk gear and tacking and see where we can come across.
So it's it's been an interesting run on that. So now you said
you had something throwing rocks at the shack of whatnot? You know, I
can I say it, you know, I can't confirm when we are enough,
you know, you know, we got some shadows around the GoPro.
But again going back out there and taking a look, he're in the middle
of the swamp. I mean, could have been something else, you know,
hitting it because we're morning up, we didn't see it. It's the
audio at night, you know, I snore, Aaron snores, something hits
the side of the thing. Nothing, I snore, he snores. Something
else decided it, you know. So yeah, let's let's cut that out
saying it's it's not a rock throwive rock throw, you know, like I've
had in the Adirondack or something like that. But it was just kind of
funny. It's like we snore, then something hits the side of the cabin,
snore and it's eight. You know, it's a good couple of hours
after we finally crashed, we uh you know, on that we had some
deer come up and I got some video thought them coming up through not looking
at us, scared of what coming towards us, but what was behind that?
So again, what do they have? Again? We had a bear
con through camp that night, so definitively what have we got? Yes?
No, maybe? All right? It's an interesting area, you know,
to get in and try things out. And again that was one of my
first runs through to actually look for the skuntcake in Florida. So so,
Mike, I got a quick question for you regarding the bear. I believe
that it's black bear. They're not you know, seven foot all on their
hind legs type of black bear. I believe they're a little bit smaller even
though that they're there. But I've got another question that I haven't heard a
whole lot of feedback coming out of even the Everglades. Is the notorious tree
knox. Is that a thing? And with the skunk apes with the tree
knocks, I haven't heard the tree knocks while I'm down there. Matt's got
some video coming out about knocks this week. I hope I was allowed to
give that out. Yeah, it's it's but I didn't hear much in knocks.
But again, you know, I know you guys mentioned Scott's mapping project,
you know, and you've got the BFRO site. Folks are going to
those same areas and I pretty much have given up on the knocks and the
screams and yells and everything like that because it's been so inundated with words.
Ago. Um, you know, I got over to my yaka. You
know, you look around, and you know, you look for the mupper
stickers, you look for the window stickers. How many bigfoot things are you
seeing? You know, mark in a vehicle when you're going through those areas
and what are you going out? Hey, I'm here, I'm taking you
know, my you know, tourist photo and then knock, knock, knock.
You know. So, you know, you make a great point with
that, Mike, And we've talked about that in the past, going to
these areas now which tend to become oversaturated with the kind of pop cultural the
Kottkey I don't know, cuteness of the skunk ape and people that want to
go out and go on skunk ape hunts. It kind of dilutes the area
for us to be able to go out and do actual scientific research because it's
so contaminated. Well yeah, and that and the fact is if there is
an animal there and its goal is not to be noticed, then it's going
to back away further into a more reclusive area, you know, just because
there's that much. And again, you take somebody from the Northeast that goes
to Florida and the family does the you know, the beach thing or the
fishing thing, and you say, I'm going to go out and swamp for
a little bit. Hey, Johnny, Um, you know you're not.
We're from up here, we're not Floridians. The scene as that they came
up here. They're not used to what we're seeing, what we're hearing for
the vegetation. You know, I have a whole video on pine cones falling,
and it sounds like tree knox. It sounds like stuff getting thrown.
It sounds like footsteps because there's those one pound pine cones are coming down,
they're hitting and going and again you're there in Florida. Those pine cones down
there are just as big, but again going down as somebody from somewhere else
in the country. That's why I've had the blessing of the folks that I
got out with it to learning the environment down there. That's why I can't
say one thing or another because it's something else. So it's very responsible too,
you know. Just to your point, we had a situation out in
our area where we had taken some taken some people out, and they mistaken
eggcorns dropping for rock throws. You know, Oh, something just got thrown
at us. Now, no, that wasn't a throw, that was a
drop. Watch and then here they go again. Go ahead, you make
a valid you make a valid point, because the fact is is, like
me and Sean have learned from being just in the three acres I own.
You hear stuff in the woods all the time. It's like what is that?
What is that? But you're there long enough you're like, oh,
yeah, that's a woodpecker or oh just something you know, that's I noticed
there's a bird up there and he knocks him off his nest or or the
deerer moving. Like if you're not from that area and you don't know what
animals to think of, you don't know that there's snakes in the trees and
and different things and whatever you're looking, you know, Like I put my
foot though, I went to go move wood, and I found two snakes
while I was trying to move the woodpile. So you know, like,
but I wasn't scared because I had an idea what they were. Well after
I stopped screaming like a little girl. But like I wasn't as scared because
I knew what to look for. But if I was in Florida and I
didn't know the difference between a brown snake and a coral snake, I could
have died, you know what I mean. But since I'm from Pennsylvania,
like, Okay, that's just a brown snake, or that's a that's one
of those black um not a cotton mouth, but just a mouse eating you
big snake. You know. So like you make valid points. You want
to go out with somebody local because one they know what to do, and
secondly they know where the local hospital is, you know, kind of help,
you know, I pick up the little trifolders. I know they're they're
I think they're all around the side here, you know, the local snakes,
the local birds, the local mammal. I mean again, we're all
up here in the north. I mean, how us to come across to
armadillos. You know, we've got our wood ats and everything else, you
know, running around, but you get an armadillo going through something you think
you know it's coming for it. Um, you know, the second time
or the first time out down there, you know, we came across the
whole area of pig sign in the swamp, you know, very closely green
swamp. And while we're there, you know, we find a deer carts
and the hair is like in piles in one spot, and I'm looking for
that hunter, that biologist or whatever can kind of explain this because pig sign
everywhere, but nothing's chewed on the deer cart disc. But yet we've got
a full pile of hair aw from and it's not like the coyotes grabbed it
and dragged it or the skin, you know, the skins still there.
There's no there's no I mean, mats video. I mean, that's that's
a great thing. Is that? So the bear through the camp we were
doing a we're doing a live stream that night, so not the best signal
because we're in the middle of the woods, Matt, you know, documenting
that whole thing in documentation, especially now there for Ross coming back to go
back and look at that stuff. So important to document what's down there.
So you as a you know, somebody from tourists basically you know, knows
what's going on. And again then you gotta ad the insects on top of
these snakes and other things. You said, you know it's murder. Yeah,
you don't know what's going to get you know, eaten by down there
lately. Wow, But how unusual is that to find the hair in that?
What else would have created something like that? I don't know. I've
seen it hearing you. I don't know. Ye, So think about that,
think about you know you guys as hunters, think about what's there.
But I mean again, there's pig sign everywhere in fash pig sign. Why
carcass not not on choot on corn up Um this last area in Um with
Matt, you know, we put up some of those Cellier trail cameras and
oh what's this little thing? You could tell it was like an old well
and pigs were using it, you know, going in cool during a day.
You know, you know it's what you're gonna find. Again, excuse
me the difference between here and there you know, we're not you guys,
at least north end, you're gonna get some more pigs in that color scheme
that we're gonna see. They're getting more pigs and other things. I thought
we saw something else. It ended up being a otter litter box. Basically,
Um, you know what's that smell? Oh, my god's futurd it's
whatever. Well, it's just shutter. Yeah, it was a bunch of
scat, you know, right, giving me that dead smelly whatever in the
middle of the swamp, right, you know, with myself camping up in
at least the northern part of the country. When it's three o'clock in the
morning and you hear a beaver smack in its tail in the water, that's
enough to make you crap your pants because you're not putting it together. But
after a period of time you start to understand from locals, oh no,
that's just beaver slaps in the water of their tail. But boy does that
make a racket. And it goes back to Baker's point. You have to
have a local in the area that you know this is exactly what this is.
But there's still some of those mysteries, like you just brought up with
the deer. That is not that explainable. And on why there's a separation
of these two. That's what thank you get there? You go build mice
and birds gather hair collect it in a side location to you that way true?
Right, No, that's true. But do they gather that much?
That's a thing, you know, Yeah, you know, it's that's great
to know. Again, that's why I go out there. I don't say
one thing or another. It's documentation of what we're gonna find out there.
And okay, so what do we have in that area? But it's just
weird that that particular carcass wasn't fed on. And I'm not saying one way
or another, but this is great. I'm gonna, you know, when
we get off tonight, I'm gonna go dig in on the field most thing,
because right, birds per se, but you know I will for one
thing, it matters what part of YearIn is too collect collect for the winter.
And well, you know in Flora a lot of the birds here,
yes, as much. But for a lot of birds in Florida and whatever
that's their summer, winter or spring spot. They don't go down south,
you know, But here the animals have to prep for winter, like you
know. And I will say, for you know, my expeditions to Florida,
for the half a dozen times that I've been there, I've noticed when
there is a carcass um, whether it it's in a remote area, it
doesn't take very long for the vultures to get to that carcass and it's gone
and within a matter of short period of time. And when I say short
period of time, we're talking between six and eight hours, and that carcass
is pretty well picked clean. So for something to not have been predicated upon
yet, that's kind of fascinating too. Unless it just need a little bit
more time for that sent to carry to other wildlife that you know, predate
on those dead carcasses. I don't know, but boy, I saw a
lot of that in Florida. I mean it didn't matter where you went to
there's a dead animal, you had turkey vultures all over that and they'll sit
there and they'll look right at you in the eye and go, really you
want to take this? Yeah, I'll fight you for it because you could
come right up to them and they wouldn't budge there there, that's their meal.
They're not gonna budge, and they're gonna hold their ground, which is
a little different than the ones that we have here, where if you even
get within you know, ten yards of them, they kind of flee the
area. But I noticed in Florida now they stand their ground. They're like,
yeah, no, they throw there. If they had a middle finger,
they would throw it up at Yet it's like the one thing I found
too, Oh, one thing. It was that in Florida. Um,
we're talking about higher temperatures, higher humidity, so the microbes that are digesting
internally, they're thriving in that environment. So it's kind to be odd to
find a whole carcass. You know. Now obviously the inside is being uh
is being e you know by these microbes. But uh, but again comparing
it to up here, we don't have that eighty degrees with ninety percent humidity,
which is really prevalent to to make this bacteria and these other microbes,
uh, you know, uh eat away at the h That's a good point,
man, that's a very good plus. You got you got gators,
and you got you got stank. Yeah, you know, basically the thing's
gonna stink quicker. Well, but it's gonna stay quicker at that degrees and
it would be up. You know, I've seen like we've drove by deer
and the next day I went to work in the same deer's there and unless
Pendot picks that sucker up, he's gonna be there until the end of the
league. Yeah, we got blow you know in the circle back every gpef
jerkey off your boss's desk, the circle back to the beaver thing you're gonna
with gator slaps and stuff at night. So I had the pleasure of this
last time going down, and I bought a new thermal camera before I went
down and got the meat with my sales guy. So he actually took me
out to the glades near the you know, the skunk gate he HQ.
You know where you could shoot for you know, miles with this this minor
a little tank here. You know, she gets out there and shoots.
But you know, watching gators and even gators on thermal, if you don't
have a good one, you're not going to see them moving unless you're really
looking for that water stuff. So puting it out of the water with the
air temp and everything like that. You know, we learned a lot about
what thermal sensors are worked down in Florida a little t K and then against
something bigger. It's a total different run on things. You know. Now,
like last time we had the show, we talked about the you know,
the monkeys, We talked about the potentiality for misplace apes. What are
your thoughts on that? Do you think that some things that can be well,
let's let's take a look at the Mayaka skunk ape photograph. You know,
Lauren Coleman gets it it, gets it sent to him, becomes kind
of a sensation in the early two thousands. What do you think Is it
possible in your mind that some of these skunk ape sightings are nothing more,
weren't gonna misplaced ape. You know, I think you guys really hit I
really enjoyed that last episode, Seohan. You know I sent a message right
after. Um. Yeah, I mean, you guys hit it on the
head. You know, you have all these different groups that were there,
all the private ownership, the you know, the eighties drug stuff that was
going on. You know, you went to pirates, you know at this
time frame, the crappy zoos. Yeah, I mean that that whole thing.
I mean, where's this you know, a lot of these things are
coming out of you know, what did somebody do? You know? Up
here we have people that were getting the hybrid wolves and stuff like that and
letting those loose. So we I mean, if you spent any time close
to some of the larger primates, even the little ones, if they're angry,
you're not going to keep going on the house. No no, not
when your face off. No no, no, I mean or guys on
bath. But yeah, but it really gives a good point that you guys
brought up that are these were these I wouldn't say domesticated, but pats that
were released because it got too big, you know, the old allegory and
the sewer thing, even though we're talking Porta and that thing. But that
made a really good point. And here we talk about the herkees apes or
the monkeys there you know, right you yeah, you got you got a
colony of these you know primates that are out there that again, what were
they there? You know, you know there's the old stories, all the
movies and stuff that were shot. What happened those things when you get done
filming? You know? Right? Yeah, no, that's true, Ed
Mike. To go back to what we did in the last show. You
know, I just threw up the point and I don't want to make it
about me. But it does not have to be one thing, No,
it does. It could be a variety of different creatures that are out there
that are primate or a Bigfoot type related creature. Yeah, I think that's
very possible. And again we get you know, I talk a lot about
going back to those original stories. I know you guys do. I mean,
you guys are one of the first podcasts. I mean a lot of
my eyes came from you older guys that have been around for a while.
You know. It's yeah, I mean, there's the possibility on both sides
of the house, and there's Matt now, you know, it's just what
we can get is just it's there. There's there's so many possibilities. And
again I'm not full time researching down there. I got down there, you
know, I had Aaron to take me out twice up in his area.
Matt's taking me out three times with a couple other guys down there, some
that don't want to be out in the public eye, you know. And
then we got on Scott's you know, Bigfoot Mapping project app and literally,
hey, can we drive here? Can we drive there? You know,
see where these sightings are. I've got a guy I worked with says,
back in the seventies, he was riding rodeo and he's crossing you know,
Timmy Amy trail, and he hit a Shetland pony, he says, which
I find ironic because you watch sets the whole thing on Alaska, the not
the last one, but the first one. There. One of the witnesses
says, you know, we saw what we thought was a Shetland I mean
literally, I thought I was talking to that guy. And I happened to
talk to this this gentleman the other day and he says, here the locals
show up with a you know, on a pickup truck, and they've got
the mob, you know, with the pitchforks and the lights and shotguns,
and they're like, you know, where's the where's the eight, where's the
skun cape? What are you talking about? We're sorry, we hit your
your Shetland pony. No, no, no, where's the skun cape?
And then highway patrol sholds up and says, hey, you know this is
out here, you know with that go back in seventies and there were a
lot of sightings in that area. And when you ask this guy, he's
like, Hey, what's going on, It's like, I don't know,
man, you know what's in that area? What's that history? But again,
we're not down there all the time, so we gotta go with what
we get from the locals or whatever, against like being a tours sometimes.
So true. Oh, pretty fascinating. I'm reading the comments that are coming
in. Thanks Sean for posting those. Well, this one says, Hey,
guys, I'd say with the descriptions that differ so much, there's so
many races, it's remarkable and we really don't know. I don't know about
race or whatnot, but I think we desine different species of something because,
like you said, vans and like you know, and we talked about this
ad nauseum last show, so I won't you know, you know, drive
a point at home. But the regional variety of the sighting reports also that
you get from Foulk, Arkansas, and you get from Louisiana and in the
Southern States. If you guys remember the old GCBRO website, golf those Bigfoot
Research Organization. A lot of stories and one of the things that I always
found a little bit more remarkable than in some of the areas was the aggressiveness
of these skunk gapes and right, you know, you know, as we
move on here in a little bit after we take our break. UM,
just fixing Henry. They're sorry for the delay, Welcome back, Henry.
Um is that some of these reports that we get are My favorite is the
one from Georgia where the hunter's in the tree stand and he sees the lunch
onto this pig and breaks this pig's neck neck right and just throws it over
his shoulders and you know, drives off. And the guy describes this thing
as making eye contact with him, right, and it's scared the shit out
of this man to the point he was doing his business. This is it,
this is its nature and I'm just going to go about to my business.
Yeah, that would be terrifying to see that. What this is our
real world right now? Oh that's crazy. Well, and that's the world
we're living. But folks, we are going to take a quick break here.
It's that time. We're gonna take a moment for the bigfoot bullhorn.
We'll be back right after this team. I'll send people send me videos of
Bigfoot stuff after shows all the time, and they send it to me on
YouTube, and you guys know YouTube. It plays one video, then it
plays the next one automatically, then it plays the next one automatically, then
it plays the next one automatically. Nine hours later. I've seen all the
conspiracy theory videos. Now I don't trust anything. My wife's like, we
got leftovers in the fridge and like that's what they want you to think.
Ah. Yes, and the happy fourth of July week to you on this
Monday night declaration of independent signing. Eve, may your firecracker not be insulted
with that racial slur. So it is skunk ape time. So here's a
brief PBS interview with Dave Sheeley from the Big Cypress in the Everglades of Florida.
And yes, technically he is a Florida man. People hear about the
big Foot. People know about the big Foot, but not a lot of
people have know about skunk capes. The skunk capes that we have here in
the Everglades are different. My name is Dave Shelley. I'm the lead researcher
at skunk Ape Research Headquarters in O'choppy, Florida. Growing up here in the
Everglades was wonderful. It was a wild and free country they called to last
front tier. I don't know that's true or not, but for me as
a kid, it was. When I was ten years old, I saw
what other people, older people had described to me as being a skunk ape,
an animal about seven feet tall. It just never ended. I've just
always wanted to find out more about what I saw. In my years of
research here in the Big Cypress, I've had four separate occasions where I've spotted
skunk apes in the wild. We have had a lot of sightings reported at
the research headquarters. Some years are slower than others, but one year we
had over two hundred and fifty sightings reported. Seeing a skunk ape is an
unbelievable experience, just simply because the time involved in putting yourself in a position
where you can get a photograph or get a beauty for a minute. It
just kind of leaves you speech and you know you wish you had more people.
You say, there there. It is thanks to PBS for not putting
me behind bars, for lifting that interview of Dave Sheeley again. You can
find Dave's work on YouTube. You just look up Dave Sheeley s h e
A. L Y at the skunk Ape Research Headquarters out of O'chappy, Florida,
and of course he's the one that will present the photograph. And it's
a pretty famous photograph. I mean famous. It's made its rounds on the
Internet of what looks like a skunk ape walking through very tall sawgrass in the
Everglades. Again, thanks to PBS for letting me lift that without being shackled
and frog marched to the back of a squad car. When we come back,
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Etsy and gott knockers on Facebook. All right, a couple of important announcements
to make. First off, I am adopting. Yes, my best girl
and myself are adopting. Thank you very much. It is a highway,
but we're gonna name her Elaine Mercer, Lawrence County Chapter of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot
Project. We'll have a meet and greet at Writer's Restaurant. That's R Y
D E r apostrophe S Restaurant in New Willmington, Pence, Sylvania on Thursday,
August twenty fourth of this year. Dinner will be at five pm and
the meeting at six, which gives you one hour to shove food in your
pie hole. Just make sure you don't have any spinach stuck in your teeth.
This event is open to everyone. The regional lead, Ben Duckett,
will be there. Thanks again for listening to this edition of the big Foot
Bullhorn exclusively on the Sasquatch experience. And until next time, keep your toes
in the mud. Well, thanks vance. My toes are quite firm and
plainted in the mud. It's fun time for pedicure anyhow I can go for
one, folks, welcome back Sasquatch experience Monday, July the third, twenty
twenty three, as we are on the eve of Independence Day, and thank
you Vance for the news segment, the big Football Horn and some of those
great events coming up, and I know we're getting ready to be a part
of the Central Pennsylvania Bigfoot and Cryptidfest out there in the I'll be speaking,
James Baker will be with me, Matt Arner will be speaking getting three for
the price of two actually, because Baker always ends up doing one of these
presentations with me. And then of course in October, I'll be doing the
Albutwitch Festival in Columbia, Pennsylvania, which I'm really excited about. It's a
great festival. They've been doing it for a very long time. Rick Fisher
asked me to be a part of it several times, with this is the
first time they could actually fit it into the calendar, so it's going to
be a great time. Now, enough of the shameless promotion. Back to
what folks came to listen to tonight, and that's more about these damn stinky
swamp apes. Gentlemen and I know they've had enough of me talking, mister
Arner, mister May who keeps popping in and out of here like a gopher.
Baker. What do you guys got, what's on your mind with the
stinky, stinky skunk ape. Well, I want to thank um Oh go
ahead, Oh go ahead. I want to thank our guests for kind of
you know, going with my theme from last week was the fact is you
know that I believe a good portion of these un undocumented apes and they kind
of call it a skunk cape, and I go with that of the cryptids
just for the fact is is that there's so much that connors to that that
there's so much that that is so plausible. But I have to be careful
because I don't want to do the one thing a lot of researchers do is
I have a theory, Let's fit the facts to the theory instead of seeing
where the facts go to see what, you know, whether it's against my
theory or not. But I just feel with Florida and all the extra animals
you know that you you know, you say about you know, the recess
monkeys, you know, and the variety of other things, there's a lot
of creatures down there that don't belong there, but yet they're piling up.
You know, Like I said earlier, kind of Florida's slowly turning into Australia
with just being filled with animals that want to kill you, right, you
know, and at that whole area from Florida Louisiana, that swamp area is
just ripe for creatures that creatures that just want to be left alone and want
to you know, become key you know, and they start to become you
know, keystone species like the alligator and the crocodile. Florida's alligators. Yeah,
but they okay, but they're keystone species in most cases because they kind
of dominate what everything else is around them. Now you've got you've got the
feral pigs, and you've got apes and aren't supposed to be there, are
going to give you herpes. You got killer you know, you got a
killer what they call death hornets, and you got those big yellow spiders now,
and and snakes that aren't supposed to be there. So, I mean,
Florida's kind of packing up with animals that just want to take you out,
and you know, they're not indigenous to the area. That's true,
you know, driving because of the weather. Yes, they're driving because they're
in the tropic zone. We've had we've had circumstances up here in northern Illinois
where people have released the piranhas that they bought. They get a little too
big for the fish tank, so they release them in the lake. Well
that's a limited lifespan because we go through a winter season and they'll clearly die.
But the point is people do this. People suck. They buy boa
constrictors, they get too big for their household, and then they let them
go in the everglades, thinking well, it's only one boa constrictor. Yeah,
but you had thirty thousand other people doing the same damn thing. Letting
these boa constrictors out in the everglades. It can thrive, it can need
a variety of animals, you know, whether some of it's good or not,
you know, rats and so on and so forth. But I have
a feeling that the same thing was done with primates because it's a tropical zone
and they can live year round without you know, suffering any kind of severe
winter. Right. And also if you lift if you you know, in
part of my theory is if you leave the animal out in New York,
even Chicago, anywhere else when it starts to get cold, they'll work like
a duck. Oh, let's migrate down south, Let's migrate down here,
let's whatever, because you realize that with nothing obtrucing it or nothing in the
way, it's not like us who has to stop and get a burger every
so often and whatever. They could move down south in a month in Chicago.
No, but I mean as soon as it's let out. Oh hey,
it's let out, and let's say the spring, and then during the
summer it starts to realize it's gonna are getting cold, you're gonna start moving.
I do find, and I'm not trying to get off subject, but
I do find a natural migration of the bull shark that comes up to southern
Illinois up the Mississippi River. That's pretty fascinating within itself because a bull shark
is one of the most aggressives outside of a mako shark. But they're very
aggressive and they get pretty big, and they come up to Mississippi into southern
Illinois. It's like, okay, so oh no, no, they adapt
to the freshwater. Oh yeah, they do. They adapt well. So
if you take it you know, being able to adapt to a climate and
to an environment. I don't understand what the big difference is that an oranguon
tang or a chimpanzee or a billy ape or anything else. I was brought
into southern Florida, including an actual type of primate which may be a skun
gape that we all talk about, wouldn't be able to adapt and walk bipetally
in order to transport itself through a swampy area without getting its entire body wet.
Yeah, it's possible, all right. Thanks. I had a question
for Mike, and the one thing is is Mike and I are, you
know, very much into the tech. We're very much into going out into
the field. And Mike, you'd mentioned about thermal cameras and can you elaborate
a little bit on thermal cameras that you would use in a high temperature setting
because I did see through the chat comments we are getting a lot of people
from Florida, So maybe that you know that one thermal camera that that's being
sold online may not be able to work or wouldn't that be able to work?
Well, I mean I have to go down there and spend a lot
more time with the stuff that that's out there. Um. But uh,
you know when I first started, I you know, I started with a
little the little seat, you know, which is a contractor's grade set up.
Um. Then I moved up to something a little bit a bigger censor.
I mean, you're gonna run. And then this last time, you
know, we went out with the monster, you know, and again the
censors and what they can pick up are going to be so much different.
And again this last time, we were out with a little t K that
Matt who's in the chat, had and he's like, oh, I think
there's and we've got you know, we're doing alive and he's like, oh,
there's something moving behind a tree. But that censor wasn't really picking up
much. To the point I walked behind him with a three eighty four censor
and said, hey, this is what you got now here, Let's try
a six forty censor. That's you know, the rate and stuff like that
is totally different. But the same thing that you're gonna have in Florida with
the heat you'd have in the northeast or anywhere you know up north where it's
snowing. And I've had that same problem with the sensors. If the air
temperature, in the ground temperature and what you're looking at or the same temp
you're gonna lose what you're looking for unless you have the best bang for your
buck. You know. That's that's the thing, is that how much,
how much you're putting into that sensor is gonna gonna play out. Um.
And again I've had it happen in Florida the first time I set the camera
up. You know what you can use. Sometimes you just see those guys
use the different color palettes. Um, that give you a little different But
when you use a color palette and you got the rainbow bright and everything else
like that, it's really cool for color. But you don't have definition use
the black or the white hots you've got more, um, you know,
set up. And again it's not always going to happen, but you're gonna
get one day here or one day there that you're going to get that lock
up where you've got trees and the ground and everything is all at that same
temperature. Um. You know, I know Marie's out there quite a bit.
Um. You know you're there and it's gonna ahead. You're gonna you're
gonna see things. But like I said, it's the same thing you'd happen
to northeast as you'd have down there. Sometimes if all your ambient temperatures are
at the same time, and it could be that one time a day that
it's it's just there, you know, um you know it running scopes or
running an aerial set up on the drone. Again, it's the same thing
if it just happens to be all those cards are perfectly in a row to
knock that that house down. You're not gonna get it. But again,
you know, spend a little more for the sensors you're gonna get so you
get a little more definition. I guess that would be the best you're gonna
look at. So that's a great advice, great advice, especially for people
that are that are again are in the in the Florida, um people even
up here, or it's you know, spend that money, you know,
but it's worth it. It absolutely is worth it to get those readings.
And that's it. Make yourself friends with somebody somewhere else in a country.
You know, we're friends with a lot of those folks that are over you
know, in the op what they're doing on that coast, and you know
at they're parallel what you guys are doing. It's bakers. Yeah, I
mean yeah, some of the fire department set ups are nice for up close,
but you know, this particular bad boy, I can get a human
sized target at a half mile. I can get a heat signature at two
miles, you know, And there's three years difference between that sensor and this
one here, which is about half the range, you know, or the
little seating the plugs in your phone. I mean, it just change.
And I apologize. They're starting the fireworks of course over here as well,
So I don't know if the gun club down the Range Street's gonna start blowing
things up again like they No. I kind of had, you know,
a thought that I kind of think at some point here, because I've seen
some footage already come from drones, I think maybe the drone footage is going
to be probably the most prevalent capture in daytime. Now I'm not talking nighttime,
but I think daytime capture from drones because they're becoming so much more sophisticated
in a stability and clarity. I just got that gut feeling it may just
come from a drone footage. I don't know. They still make noise,
yeah, but they're getting quieter now. They've got a new blade design that's
almost silent. That's the crazy thing. I'm looking at this new technology of
a new blade design that's circular and it's almost silent. And as they were
also going to do this with the Falcon project that never took flight. You
know, I understand that probably would have been more quiet, right using a
durgible design as opposed to a you know, rotating blade they just make I
personally just make a lot of noise at this point, Could that change?
Absolutely? Uh? I don't know. All the technology we have, though,
it's only going to be as good as the people using it. And
that's why it takes practice. And I think that's what you know, we're
we're we're getting at that we really just got to dial in and learn how
to use it. And Sean, it goes back to the conversation that you
and I had, you know, even a couple of years ago. It
seems like the old school, the crank, the hand crank, eight millimeter
film without batteries, without any electronics, is what's the best thing to capture
anything? You know, all right, they got it with the Sierra Sounds.
That was all analogic equipment. Yep. Yeah, And maybe that's the
way. I would love to try that. I would absolutely love to try
to get my hands on the old equipment and just try it and see.
Oh, Matthew if he's down there and matt a Florida big Foot bought one
of those old Kodaks. Yeah, he's got one of those, and he's
using one of those in the field, right, And that's awesome. Show
like we're gonna have to use your connection to get him on the program here.
So six he's got the sixteen, Sorry, not the eight, you
know, but that's I did. I went up and grab I've got on
Amazon and went and found on the old recorders, you know, my old
boon box from high school, and use that right, Ron and I moreheaded.
I've had that talk about using that old stuff, not these new noise
canceling you know, things that are might be taking something out that we're not
getting. You know that the digital filtering it out that we make data we
may need. That's the problem with not having the I don't know, the
repetitive consistent use and someone paying attention to the differentiators between the digital NB.
I don't know. Yeah, I also think the problem Sorry I didn't mean
cut you off, No go ahead. I also think the problem is,
and this is something we've had discussion multiple times, is is that it's how
long is that camera out there? Like when I first put my cameras out
on my land, we didn't get anything but dear just going over to find
out why I disturbed that tree. As the weeks went on, we got
more animals because they forgot I had been messing with any of that. But
I could always tell when Sean went over to change the camera camera parts,
or we reposition something or whatever wherever we were, Like when I grew my
pumpkin seeds, when they noticed, we put the fence up and I put
the hay in. I put everything in, and the pumpkin seeds and everything,
and I put the fertilizer down. I had more dear sign that whole
week because they were checking on why was he over there and why is that
important? You know, And a lot of times we talked about these researches
and you say, well, hey, I went up to the cabin in
the woods. I was there three days, and I got no camera sign
or anything. Well, yeah, because that cameras only up there for three
days. If you could have came back like three weeks later, not worried
about the camera, because like, my batteries on my camera last forever,
and I think I have some of them up there two months before, I
know, empty them, okay, And I get all kinds of footage of
all kinds of animals. But if I only went by a three day pop,
I'd get nothing, you know. You know now that's why I also
feel about these whole drones and stuff. Unless you're talking military grade that is
making no noise, that's actually almost a satellite, you're not going to see.
I don't think you're going to catch an animal that's been this elusive this
long, because it's going to hear that thing a quarter mile away compared to
you know, some camera that's been sitting in a tree for three weeks and
it forgets to exist. Right, You know that your drone's only got a
sky, you know, it's got a ceiling of four hundred feet. You
know. I've had the pleasure of working with some of the big you know,
matres with the thermals and everything like that, and you know, big
zooms, and they're they're still noisy even when you get them up four hundred
foot, you know. But and again the technology is coming along, but
you're looking at you know, twenty thousand and a bass drone and then you
gotta put the cameras on. I mean, there's some cheaper ones that are
out there. I mean, I'm looking at one right now. It's about
eight grand, you know, when they get a cheaper one for four but
it's got that seam censor, but it doesn't have a zoom. And then
where can you fly? Where can't you fly? I mean, if you
don't have your pilot's license and all that, and if you're going near any
of these areas that are nature zones, you're going to be in a heck
of a lot of you know, trouble. You know, it's a lot
of education involved in front of these things, you know. And Cliff and
Bobo interviewed to dude, it's down in Florida and he's he's helping to look
for like wounded deer with drones. And there's a lot of folks doing that
as well. You know, that's a whole new industry that's out there.
So well, one of those guys that crab something on thermal, who knows
they could be. You know, if that's what you're looking for, they
maybe those folks to look at. You know, maybe maybe a less expensive
option than the former Falcon project is maybe to get like a maybe not a
weather balloon, but higher um density with you know, with the material,
a balloon that you can put in an area and having the camera shoot down.
You've got something that's silent. The only thing, of course, is
you got to deal with the winds. But you know, if you got
a creature that's looking up, they may not look, especially if it's not
making any noise. They may not look all the way up past the trees,
past the tree line. So that's something to consider as well. When
I got started with this, there was a gentleman that reached out to me
and here in New York that was using kites. He was using you know,
yeah, that's exactly who it was, Alan Gaines. I know Ellen
very well. Um, that was cool, yeah, yep. So I
mean talking about that virtually very undetectable, right yep. But again and and
you know, going back to the color and stuff like that, you know,
what you see what I see is totally different. You know. I
talk to you guys down there about you know, the colors and you know,
looking at a wild boar or compared to what these mayaka s gun gape
is the browns and the black and the whites and stuff like that, that
could be a pig for all we you know, that particular picture isn't right.
But you know, again going back to the guy with the Shetland pony
and that, what are you actually seeing? I mean, JECI now,
like even up here where we've got you know, Tayoga, you've got all
the wild pigs running around up there in the same area that we've got a
lot of sightings as well. So I mean that's the big thing is getting
us somebody that's down there knowing what's going on. I think is very important
to find the sidings. Bill Rigby and Amy Boo in the chat room,
good friends of ours, good supporters, good researchers. It's okay, Bill,
we won't issue any demerits this week, no now. But you know
the thing is, I love how we put these shows together and we start
getting on a topic and we just start going through and start you know,
discussing I think the things that are very paramount of research, you know,
actual research techniques. I've said before, you know, while struggling to find
an identity for the show anymore, We're not going to be the guys that
tell the scary stories. You know, that's not really what we do.
We tell the witness stories. We discussed technique, we discuss topics. That's
what Sasquatch experience is about. And you know, of course occasionally we'll start,
I don't know, maybe getting some stories on here. But this is
the part that I enjoy talking with researchers, people to get boots on the
ground out there doing actual research that have information to bring back and share.
And as we're discussing all these things tonight, an actual discussion on technology and
its applications in the field and drones and people that actually specialize and use it
on the day to day as you know, to quote a great man and
entertainment. That's such good shit and I love it and it really is.
And you know, we do have to get the folks from Florida on mid
Florida with Marie. We met some folks Baker when we were at the Smoking
Mountain Bigfoot conference from Florida. That was fun and you know, interface with
them, and like Mike says, network folks get out there, make acquaintances
and friends with people across the across the country, across the world, because
this isn't just being seen in the United States. It's being seen in a
lot of places globally. You know, you guys know I pushed that Merlin
app. We talked about that when I was on with Girls. I mean,
tonight, Matt sent me some audio from Florida. I mean, hey,
what do you got? You know, it's but having the ability to
use what we share here when we're out with those other folks. I mean,
every time I come out with new tech, I'm trying to use it
in Florida and try to use it in New York. I mean, substrates
are different. I mean there's just so much. Yeah, and it is
educating us on what that Georgia, the Louisiana, the Alabama, the swamps
of Texas. It's not us. We're Northeast folks are doing the West.
You know. Well, you know, Mike, I think and you and
I talked about this real briefly, and I'm just kind of bringing it full
circle. Is we really have to be knowledgeable in everything, and a lot
of different science is not just you know, biology, but in geology,
and you know, there's a lot of applications of things meteorology. There's a
lot of applications of science that we need to use in our day to day
while looking for this mystery primate or mystery animal creature, whatever you want to
call it, some day mystery beast. And before we go, I got
to do one more thing, folks, a plug for the latest book that
just came out that I've been excited for, the phenomenal Fasquatch by Matt Pruett.
Folks, get yourself a copy on Amazon nineteen ninety nine. I believe
it's what to go in prices for it. I hit my nose on my
microphone. It it's a good book, written in a very great way,
it may be, and no bs and no blown smoke up someone's ass,
maybe the modern eu evalent of perhaps sasquatch states among us nice. I don't
know. I don't want to hype it up that much. I'm only a
couple of chapters in, but it's good stuff, so good, and I'm
Henry's popping in and out of here quick. I wanted to get a sound
man he's gone again. I wanted to get more from Henry, but I
don't know if that's possible. To night, folks, We're gonna get Henry
back on. Don't worry, Mike, thanks for coming on with us,
man, it's a thank you. I hope I didn't derail everything no more.
We'll have Skunk Swamp Apes Part three. I produce it number all that
we until we drive this part home and we I think we tackle this subject.
There's nothing wrong with multi episode expeditions into this topic and an area that's
got such a history, uh, that we really needed to talk about.
And the thing that just sparked my interest in it was the kind of resurgence
and popularity of Florida. You know, Florida skunk apes because it kind of
ebbs and flows like everything else. Boggy Creek was the big thing there for
a while. Then it became Florida, you know, and why And as
we talked about Mike, and we talked about Vance, James and Matt,
there was that point of time from that after post World War two that it
exploded, right, And there's a reason it exploded. And I'll let you
folks make that as you will, but just go back listen to the episode,
check this one out, and come back and talk to us some more,
guys. Any final thoughts or parting words or social media plugs other than
the fact that you know, you talk about the Boggy Creek Monster. Could
all be the same thing as to what's going on in Florida. Maybe,
And I just give a double thumbs up to that, because you know,
there's a good possibility and I'm excited to find out if we ever get an
answer to that. Oh, fair enough, fair enough, Mike. Where
can folks find more from you? You can find me at Where's my Stage
on YouTube, Instagram and Facebook or Tactical Bigfoot Research on Instagram, Facebook,
and YouTube. And thank you guys for letting me share to my channels tonight.
And you know, like I said, I thoroughly enjoyed the first episode
in listen all the time. So being part of the rest of this conversation
has been awesome because I drove him. And then if anybody's in, you
know, with Caledonia, New York on the twenty second of June, I
will be doing a presentation over there with Joe Big foot atheist. We're gonna
talk about talk about his witness sighting and how I do research with his witness
sighting. So nice, so stuff. So turn out for that fun July
not June. Sorry July. And I was like, is that next year?
No? No, no, no, that we have trouble with long
term memory. Here, I'm that way to white you know, White Hall
September. I'll be there for that one too. Oh there you go.
I know we're going somewhere next month and then yeah, this month and then
month man and yeah, yeah, we got a lot going on, James.
I don't expect you to maintain that. I do that for us because
it's it's a lot. Matt, what about you, buddy, Well,
I was gonna say. August twelfth, Murg, Pennsylvania, the Central PA
big Foot and Cryptic Festival. It's the first ever event our great friend and
partner when Purcell will be uh the host and she has some great guests coming,
some great vendors um and you know what, you're right down the road
from Canobles, so communement part for free. So come out if you got
plans, you know, to be in the area. August twelfth, Elisburg,
Pennsylvania, the Central PA big Foot and Cryptic Festival. Again, Matt
and I are speakers at that event. So we want your feedback info with
Tasquatch Experience dot com, Baker any parting gems. Um, if you need
to see me, I'm probably Um, I'm gonna be posting more, trying
to do more live videos. I'll be wearing pants. Um, thank you,
there was a request. Um, but I'm gonna be doing a lot
stuff, more stuff out in my land. Um, it's a lot five
six the land if you want to check it out on Facebook. But I've
been trying to do more because like I learned so much from just being outside,
and like me and Sean had the conversation when we're live at the at
a monster Fest, was as ninety eight percent of your research is just you
standing out in the yard, I standing out in the woods. Take the
time and learn from it. Right, Okay, not everything's going to be
a big foot. But the nice thing is if you start to learn about
your area, then you realize that ninety eight percent of it isn't got a
big foot, and then you're able to see that two percent quicker. All
right, no, good point. That's a good point, right, folks.
If Henry was here, he'd say you all be good or be good
at it, so I'm gonna say it for him. Folks. We'll see
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