WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:07.839 Breaking down all the excess at als. It's Steve Rivera and Jagan Salvens. 2 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:13.839 This is i Ona the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty and welcome back to 3 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:19.000 the Ball Hero Fox Sports. He's Jake. Now we have Jason Wins some 4 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:27.120 breaking news. This is Ia Balls. The Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame has 5 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:31.600 announced their Jerry Colangelo's Hall of Fame Sties, which will be taking place in 6 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:37.159 Phoenix on December twenty and twenty twenty three. UM. The Arizona men's men's 7 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:41.840 and women's basketball teams will be a part of the Hall of Fame series. 8 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:48.000 The men's team will be playing Alabama, while the women's team will be playing 9 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:54.479 against Gonzaga. So what what they've done is in one there's gonna be four 10 00:00:54.479 --> 00:01:00.719 basketball games in one day up there at the arena at the I guess so 11 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.399 yeah, yeah, at the Sun's Arena. Yeah. And so what it 12 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:07.599 is is, uh, the ASU men's and women's teams will both be playing 13 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.519 up there. So when one day in the first session are two women's games, 14 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.599 the ASU women will be playing um who did I see? Um? 15 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.519 State? As women be playing in Fresno State, Arizona women will be playing 16 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:26.480 Gonzaga. Then in a second session ACU man play Northwestern. In Arizona man 17 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:33.159 play Alabama. And that's on what December December twenty Yeah, at the Footprints 18 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:36.000 Center. So that's a long day. But that's the how long day of 19 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:38.480 basketball? If you said, if you've ever sat through four games in one 20 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.560 day at a back twelve tournament or something like So, they don't have times 21 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:45.599 yet, right, they don't. They have eight o'clock game bet Arizona is 22 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.719 the last game of the day or whichever game TV you know, TV will 23 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.400 set the time five thirty thirty. It's like it's like an eleven o'clock, 24 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.439 one o'clock. Yeah, I bet Arizona actually is the first game of the 25 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:59.599 second session in order to get a good TV time for that, as Arizon 26 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:06.200 Alabama was going to be a game that people at the end of locals and 27 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:08.639 then locals will stay for. Yeah. So um. And actually this is 28 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:12.800 this Hall of Fame series. There's five tournaments. They're calling it the tournament. 29 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:15.080 It's not a tournament. You got just four games in one day. 30 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:19.439 But there's one in Vegas, one in Charlotte, one in San Antonio, 31 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.520 one in Toronto. Within the one up in Phoenix. Uh. Some national 32 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:28.960 news Denver Nuggets Bruce Brown is declining his six point a million player option for 33 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:31.240 twenty twenty three, twenty fourth season, and we'll become a free agent. 34 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:36.439 So so okay, yeah, this is kind of I mean, it's not 35 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:39.159 that was expected, Yeah, because he is probably gonna look for a big 36 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:43.840 payday. But I thought he would come back just because of what he said 37 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:46.400 at the parade and he helped them, you know, he was one of 38 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:50.840 the main contributors. And I feel like he's kind of found a home in 39 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.680 Denver, I thought. But I think that's probably feels he can make them 40 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:55.120 more than six millions. Rights, Yeah, definitely, So I guess it 41 00:02:55.199 --> 00:03:00.960 makes sense. Um, these Celtics are currently working on a trade too. 42 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:05.560 Well. They have finaliz finalizing a trade to require Um, the Wizards Chrits 43 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.879 have Porzingis in a three team deal that sends Malcolm brog brogged in to the 44 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:15.120 Clippers and LA would be sending Marcus Morris and a mere coffee and a thirtieth 45 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.240 thick to Washington. Um all sides is still working on finalizing the deal. 46 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:23.479 All right, So that's a pretty blackbuster trade. Um, how do you 47 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:28.360 guys feel about that. You know, I know Porzingis is like a dude, 48 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:30.159 but yeah, but still you know, yeah, I think you know, 49 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:32.960 you're just you're just moving the pieces around as right going over there? 50 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:37.400 Right. Do you think the Celtics at the better end of that or would 51 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:42.400 you say Washington or the Clippers or how do you think I want to think 52 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:46.000 whoever gets Porzingis rights. Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. 53 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.960 Um from that, So the we alred just talked about this before, but 54 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.879 the Florida Gators are headed to the Men's College World Series Finals for the fourth 55 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:55.759 time in program history, which is kind of I mean to me at least, 56 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.000 is pretty like wow, it's pretty impressive. Um, and they're playing 57 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.960 against LSU. Uh, well, LSU is playing to get in it. 58 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:10.080 Oh, l SE has got the think Tennessee. Uh I leave Tennessee. 59 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.439 They're they're probably there playing right now. We're again getting ready to start. 60 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.399 Um, whoever LSU was in doesn't have a loss or they have to lose 61 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:23.560 two times. And I believe it's Tennessee or or is it wake Force and 62 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:28.319 LSU who did Okay, wait, no, it's Wake Force an LSU there 63 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.720 was a Okay, I will say that there was an interesting conversation on the 64 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:31.720 radio, and I wan't tell you where I heard it. But if you're 65 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:36.680 an Arizona fan, are you reading four or against j Johnson at LSU? 66 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.360 You don't know a lot of people, A lot of not a lot of 67 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.199 people. A couple of people texted me and texted me and said, um, 68 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:46.680 um, I don't help you lose this. I hope you lose this 69 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.920 because of how he ended it with Arizona. Did you even come back? 70 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:54.519 I don't think he ever came back. He probably said somebody to get his 71 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:58.240 stuff right. And let me just say this though, you can tell he's 72 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.240 a very good court coach because he's done what he's doing and obviously is talented. 73 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.839 L shoot, but you know what, Steve, LSU is one of 74 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:08.240 those places where anybody sure, but if you're good, you get them do 75 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:12.120 you get them far into tournament? It's way farest and LSU and LSU has 76 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.639 to beat wake Forest twice. You get into the championship and they should be 77 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.920 uh yeah, just getting underway right now, okay? Um. Patrick Mahomes 78 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:25.720 has been nominated for Best Male Athletes, Best NFL Player, and member of 79 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:29.959 the best team at the twenty twenty three SPS this year. So oh all 80 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:31.959 right, well, and you know what, anything he gets he deserves. 81 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:35.560 So yeah, he's been incredible on and off the field for sure. Um, 82 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:41.360 the Indoor Football League announces they're twenty twenty three Hall of Fame finalists. 83 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.839 Um to name the three of them? Uh, Tyler Knight, Uh Xavie 84 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:53.639 Jackson and he was. There's ten nominees and I think I don't know how 85 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.720 many there's voting, and I don't know how many get in, okay if 86 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:00.839 there's a certain number of voting. But Xavie Jackson currently in a coach with 87 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.360 with the Sugar Skulls, but he played for Seedar Rapids in Nebraska. He's 88 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:09.879 the all time sack excuse me, the sack leader on the Indoor Football League 89 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:13.959 at eighty one and a half sacks in his career. The next closest has 90 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:18.920 fifty four. Wow, you know, and you know what, nicest guy. 91 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:24.480 I love the guy. We talked to him before every game. We're 92 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.600 not down there on the field. You know, you can see why, 93 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.560 you can see why they have a good defense because guys respond to him. 94 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.800 He's a really good guy, but possibly getting into the Inter Football League Hall 95 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:38.120 of Fame. You can go to the intero Football League website which is GOIFL 96 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:41.680 dot com, going to the news area, and you can find a place 97 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:46.839 that you can vote for Xavier Jackson on the Hall of Fame. Okay, 98 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:51.319 Um, Chicago Bulls forward Derek Jones Junior is declining his three point three million 99 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:56.920 player option for the twenty twenty twenty fourth season and entering unintricted free agency. 100 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.279 So he's another guy that I was probably looking for more money, but I 101 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.519 think he's probably better kind of his daying with the Bulls because I don't know 102 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:11.959 his market. Yeah yeah, if you getting more money doesn't mean being in 103 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.759 a better place exactly. And I mean some of these guys don't have the 104 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.360 biggest market. So I forgot like him. I think it's would have been 105 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:21.480 better from He's gonna stay where he's at, um at a decent situation for 106 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:25.240 him and everything. So we'll kind of see where he ends up. But 107 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.560 that's why the breaking is I have for today. Okay, all right, 108 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:30.240 if I ask you a question before you say, is that put your thing? 109 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.879 No? Just something else? Um, what are you gonna say? 110 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:36.800 Someone just sent me something. I'll put it here, because he continues, 111 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:42.399 that's why I've been really talking. Send me something that SI dot com wrote 112 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.800 a story that it looks like it's gonna have SMU in San Diego stay in 113 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:47.839 the league so they'll stay told but I can't it's not true. I don't 114 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:50.360 think this is I think this is a false report because I looked at the 115 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:55.639 San Diego Union Tribune, nothing and nothing in the side dot com. And 116 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:59.199 you haven't seen on Twitter, so I think it's just a bogus, bogus 117 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:01.560 um story. And this came out maybe two three hours ago, but you 118 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.519 hadn't seen anything. I haven't either, so I think it's not true. 119 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:07.839 So Okay, I just want to if I was to ask you, since 120 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:13.000 twenty thirteen, I don't know, have you seen this this stat no who 121 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:20.240 a number of lottery picks since twenty thirteen? Obviously Duke in Kentucky have a 122 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:26.480 whole a whole bunch. Would you say Kansas has more or fewer than Arizona? 123 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:31.680 Trip question, elsa Arizona has more. They haven't seen four five five 124 00:08:31.919 --> 00:08:39.559 since two thirteen. Okay, Eyton Gordon, Aaron Gordon, Aaron Gordon, 125 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:48.600 uh DeAndre Nick Johnson, No, no, he wasn't. Stanley Johnson, 126 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.360 Stanley Johnson, Stanley, I mean math four. Yeah, Kansas has five, 127 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.879 Gonzaga has six, but Kentucky fifteen, Duke twelve. Then you go 128 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:03.600 down to Gonzaga six, Kansas five, Arizona five, Indiana four, and 129 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.120 f Florida State four. I wouldn't have had those two guys. Florida sty 130 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.039 is very talented, but only in like certain you know, certain spots. 131 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:16.240 I mean, where's Michigan State, where's uh, you know, good players? 132 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.519 And yeah, are you sold on Zoa? I asked this question for 133 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.440 a reason. Sold on him as a hall of fame guy. He's a 134 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.879 hall of fame guy. But just even now, not nice after what I 135 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:31.440 saw that, because that's where I lay a random I random into the because 136 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:35.159 I had the game one and all of a sudden they went to went to 137 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.879 the pooper. Yeah, um no, I'm not not anymore right, you 138 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.240 know, I mean, he's because of that, he wasn't that. But 139 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.320 then you think, man, what kind of a guy is he really? 140 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.559 And was he really? You know? And it was kind of crazy? 141 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:48.399 All right, Okay, so let's let okay, let's use up the rest 142 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.360 of his time, Heisman Trophy went Heisman Trophy odds. First of all, 143 00:09:52.840 --> 00:10:00.679 Um, we went through those. But in the last eleven, the last 144 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:07.919 thirteen Heisman Trophy winners were quarterbacks. Yeah, who were the two that were 145 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:13.039 not the last thirteen thirteen? One of those was in twenty twenties, only 146 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.759 three years ago to Reggie Bush's twenty tools. Yeah, it's it's after Reggie 147 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:18.840 Bush. And then one of them in twenty fifteen. I'll give you a 148 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:28.559 hint. They both went to the same school running back Texas, no Florida. 149 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.600 I'll even tell you what's school. They both went to Alabama. Oh 150 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:37.000 okay, uh, um played at New Yorleans. Um Martin Martin, Um, 151 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:41.559 are you go ahead and tell me Derrick Henry. Yeah that's twenty fifteen, 152 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.200 Yeah, because he carries them all that crazy in for Tennessee and twenty 153 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:50.000 twenty DeVante Smith. Oh okay, wide receiver? Oh yeah yeah yeah, 154 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.279 yeah, he was frantastic. Remember because the kid was saying for the kid, 155 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:58.639 uh, we have on our poster. Uh the first intern, Bobby 156 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:07.120 All the greatest wide receiver every said, turned like Jerry Rice going back, 157 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.080 I started going back to Okay of the eleven of the last thirteen, so 158 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.519 mark ingram at one in two thousand and nine, another another running back out 159 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.960 of the right. So then after that, so this is the eleven of 160 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:20.759 thirteen, Cam Newton twenty ten, then going twenty eleven, Robert Griffin, 161 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:26.639 the third, Johnny Manzil, Jamis Winston, Marcus Mariota, then Henry Lamar 162 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.559 Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, and DeVante Smith, 163 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.159 and Bryce Young, Caleb Woods. He'd got to be a quarterback. So 164 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:37.039 that's said. The one, two, four, six, ten, eleven. 165 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.759 The top eleven favorites to win the Heisman Trophy this coming year are all 166 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.080 quarterbacks, and some quarterbacks haven't even heard of. A quarterback hasn't even played. 167 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:56.840 Um uh. The incoming Georgia quarterback Carson Beck is listed as a favorite 168 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:00.919 too too. He hasn't even played, because that's the Bennett was the guy, 169 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.440 you know the last couple of years. And now this guy who hasn't 170 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.639 even played. He's Jesus, he might not even start right, might because 171 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.120 he's from Georgia. He's Georgia. Yeah. Um. J. J. 172 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:16.000 McCarthy, who was not impressive in Michigan last year, Um, you got 173 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.919 uh you? Quinn Yours who was struggled at Texas. Quinn Yours is the 174 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:24.720 number three favorite to win the Heisman Trophy this year. Wow. Caleb Williams 175 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.519 is the prohibitive favorite to win it, which tells me that he won't because 176 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.600 it's hard to win it twice in a row. It's only it's only happened 177 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.320 once. And you know, so many things have to go right for us. 178 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.879 So we were kids or I was a kid, wasn't I can't remember 179 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:46.159 that, but I don't remember Keilly Williams. Jordan Travis, the quarterback at 180 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.919 Florida San, I'm like, what did he do that puts him as the 181 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.120 number two picked to win the Hisman Trophy? And honestly, I think Michael 182 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:56.360 Pennocks at Washington I still believe that he's gonna be that he's got a better 183 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.480 shot of winning the Heisman Trophy. Well, the funny thing about it, 184 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:03.360 that's funny to the great thing about it from the pack twelve this year is 185 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:05.960 that it's gonna be fun to go watch games. Yeah, because of the 186 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.360 quarterback situation. There are so many good ones. Yeah, exactly. Um, 187 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:13.639 and the first, the first non quarterback. The highest rank non quarterback 188 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.559 is Marvin Harrison Junior, the wide receiver at Ohio State. And then then 189 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.720 you got another string of quarterbacks after that, um the Penn State quarterback, 190 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:30.480 Ohio State quarterback who again has yet to play, the new Alabama quarterback who 191 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.399 has yet to play. And then you go to Blake Korum, the running 192 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:37.639 back yet at Michigan. But all these guys who haven't even played Spencer Rattlers 193 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.799 in there. I mean, come on, Oh, anyways, you put 194 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.799 your money at Cable Williams. I would, I would, I would? 195 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:50.360 Why not? Fifty bucks? One bucks? Yeah? Why not? Yeah? 196 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.440 I meant gods, yeah, pretty good. That's the reason. If 197 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.960 they were like two to one, what's what's the point. Something can happen 198 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.759 though, right? Right? But who else are you gonna go with for 199 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:03.960 the money? Right? I mean the whole rest of them? Like none 200 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.080 of them even sound like Eisman Trophy exactly. How somebody will emerge? Right, 201 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.679 somebody have it going to that great year. If I were to pick 202 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.639 one of those guys outside of Kayley Williams, I picked Michael Panos. He 203 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.840 impressed me more than anybody last year. Uh, you know, not just 204 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.799 against Arizona. But you know, every time I saw him play, he 205 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.320 was just so damn good, So I wouldn't be surprised. And I can 206 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:26.720 see Washington winning the league next year because of him. Should be it should 207 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.440 be a lot of fun. Interesting, It should be interesting. All right, 208 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.120 let's take our break. We're gonna have Erica Barnes to give us a 209 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.840 firsthand, uh, a description of what the US often was like. Last 210 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:43.000 week she was talking about all that kind of stuff. Just uh, just 211 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:43.960 what it was like. I mean, I know there's a lot of stuff 212 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:48.080 going on with Live Too and the players and just a lot of I think 213 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.120 a lot of tensions. So we'll see what you have to say about that, 214 00:14:50.159 --> 00:15:05.159 souff. We'll be right back. 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How was that at the US 277 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.359 Open? Oh wow? That was that was amazing? And that was really 278 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.440 fun for me as a as a you know, former athlete and a mother 279 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:03.039 and a wife to U being from Thousand Oaks, California, And it was 280 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:07.160 Father's the weekend, full disclosure, and my kids were more excited to see 281 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:12.480 their cousins than their dad for that week right. Well, even though Father's 282 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.440 Day, that's too funny, that's too funny. So so you took in 283 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:18.200 the US That is that the first time you'd been to a US Open or 284 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.559 have you done some others? No, I went to the US Open back 285 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:26.200 in two thousand and nine when my brother in law, Ricky Barnes Um came 286 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.640 in second at the US Open at Best Page Black back in in Long Island. 287 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:37.039 So it brought back a lot of really good memories. Um, he 288 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.039 was on the list for UH, one of the leaders for thirty six holds. 289 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:45.200 He had the US Open record for a while for lowest score after three 290 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.480 rounds. So it was pretty special. Brought me a lot of a lot 291 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:53.000 of memories and meat for Andy to be on the bag again at a major 292 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:57.160 and on the back of Charlie Hoffman, a very good friend of his and 293 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:04.160 um former teammate from junior golf college golf, pro golf, and um so 294 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:07.839 you could just see it's just something different and special about a major, And 295 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.039 especially if being at LA Country Club, how often does Andy do that? 296 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.799 It's a full time job. So if he's about twenty seven weeks a year, 297 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.680 if those FedEx playoffs and other majors are there, then it's add a 298 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:23.799 few more than that. Yeah, well, a lot of traveling all over 299 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:26.079 the place and you and your kids are saying, oh Dad, oh, 300 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.799 hike, cousin. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, 301 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.200 what's up dad, there's a golf tournament happening. That's nice. Yeah, 302 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:33.279 I didn't know. I didn't know you'd be here. Hey. By the 303 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:37.359 way, we talked a lot about this last couple of days just the crowd. 304 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:40.319 Jay brought this up. I don't follow it that much, but the 305 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:45.119 crowds were a little bit different compared to previous because they because the tickets weren't 306 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.759 there or something. I think that was played up just a little bit. 307 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:53.039 I think because this was a new course, new to everybody. But the 308 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:59.359 LA Country Club members were great. Um as there's some good amount of you 309 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:03.599 you avail um a lot of southern California people, big golf fans. I 310 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.680 know a couple of people that flew into for it, So I didn't see 311 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:10.279 it as much as they were talking about. But I think maybe what captured 312 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:15.200 some things on TV was it's it's a tough course to walk right for fans, 313 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.920 and so I think if you saw a little inclines like from five just 314 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:22.559 six, I think that's the time that people go get their beverage and you 315 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:26.519 know, take a little break and then meet them back down at the seventy. 316 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:30.279 Yeah, it's you know, just what you heard. It just sounded 317 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.440 like, you know, I went to the one at the Pebble Beach in 318 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.200 twenty nineteen and the crowds were massive. You know, Tiger Woods was playing 319 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.480 and trying to follow him was impossible, but still fun, you know, 320 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:44.279 fighting the crowd and stuff like that. So they're just saying that there seemed 321 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:48.640 like there didn't seem to be the big game, total big game atmosphere that 322 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:49.839 you have in a lot of courses, because it was it was a smaller 323 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:52.000 crowd. It's a tight place, I think, you know, it's in 324 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:55.599 the middle of it's right there by Century City. Tough, maybe tough to 325 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:57.079 get to. I don't know. But it's still the US Open, right, 326 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:00.759 it still had to have a feel to it. Oh, absolutely it 327 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:06.799 was. It was beautiful. I mean the weather was great and the course 328 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:11.119 was was really neat. Um. So yeah, definitely that same kind of 329 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.400 magic, that same feeling was there. And then you got to meet up. 330 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.119 You talked about the u of a people. I saw a photo of 331 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:21.160 you and JT and Kay Lofton. Who was that and how was that? 332 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:27.319 Like? Yeah, Kenny Lofton and Jason Terry were there because purely they're big 333 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:33.599 golf fans, sou they just they love golf, and so that was fun 334 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.920 to catch up with them. And then we kind of hung together for that 335 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:42.359 for a couple holes and had some mutual friends. Of course while cat mutual 336 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:47.160 friends that um, we all introduced each other too, and so we had 337 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:51.319 a we had a fun wildcat crew there. So did you did you follow 338 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.759 Charlie Hoffman the whole time? Did you go you know, see other guys? 339 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:57.920 What what did you do? So? I did both because I had 340 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:03.079 been earlier in the week, I was at our National Athletic Convention knacked Monday 341 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.799 through Wednesday. I flew in through Thursday night. UM, dropped my kids 342 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:12.119 off at my sisters and then I walked on Friday, but he teed off, 343 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:17.279 Charlie teed off about six forty five in the morning. And so Andy 344 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:21.519 was a very nice husband and let he went and did the physio and all 345 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.960 his stuff, and let me go walk the courts and gallivant and meet up 346 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:29.160 with some you of a friends. So I walked for about i'd say, 347 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.359 nine holes with Charlie. Very cool, Yeah, very cool. So you 348 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.640 were there Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sun, Sunday old forties. No, 349 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.279 because you know I had aunt duties too, So I had mom and 350 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.279 aunt duties. I couldn't just give my sister the kids the whole time. 351 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.599 So I had to go watch an all star softball game for eight and under 352 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.200 kids. And you know I was doing all, doing it all? Okay? 353 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.759 What what? At Which event? Were the fans better and worse at 354 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.680 the at the US or the softball game? You know some of those parents, 355 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:03.960 when you're it's not your circle, you're you know, you shake your 356 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:08.039 head about they're way too serious for being eight under All Stars. Let me 357 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:11.559 ask you, because you played that eight year old All Stars and I'm sure 358 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:15.640 you did you notice that stuff when weep when you played, because we talked 359 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:18.640 about that, and we had somebody on last week because I said, the 360 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.960 worst thing that happened to kids or parents? That's right, Yes, And 361 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.400 I don't think you notice it as as much when when you are young, 362 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:33.000 but you you do notice who's who's taking it too serious and who's having having 363 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.279 fun. Yeah. But yeah, those players out on the out of La 364 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.440 Country Club, they were they were being serious but definitely having some fun. 365 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.880 Yeah. So you talk talk about this convention you're at, because there was 366 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:45.799 a lot of a lot of news came out of there, a lot of 367 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:51.359 discussion of the uh you know, of the stuff going on with the conferences 368 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:55.640 and realignment and and and that kind of thing. What what's the atmosphere among 369 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.240 all the uh you know, all the administrators of all these schools when they're 370 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:02.640 all in one place. Is there are people be you know, whispering on 371 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:04.559 the side. Are they openly talking to stuff? I mean, what kind 372 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:08.799 of conversation is going on around there? I don't I don't know what you're 373 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:11.720 talking about. We just you know, it's it's a slow june, you 374 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:18.680 know, I don't know what you mean. What wasn't there to talk about. 375 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.599 Yes we could. We could fill a whole week for sure. UM. 376 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:26.440 You know, it's always so great to get together with your Division one 377 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:32.039 athletic administrators together and realize that we're all in the same boat, maybe just 378 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:37.319 different different region, different location, different campus. UM, but a lot 379 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.839 of discussion about nammage likeness and how how we're navigating that with UM being going 380 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:48.920 into two years now with with that and the interpretations from the IRS and from 381 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:56.000 the NCAA, and and how we're managing that. UM our PAC twelve colleagues, 382 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.960 we were there and UM, they were all committed and lively and UM, 383 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.319 no news there, but we're all just rolling in trying to end our 384 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.759 fiscal years strong coming up in about a week. Yeah, we had doctor 385 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:12.279 Robbins here about a week ago, talked about being on the Titanic. It 386 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:18.480 feels like that old lady, it's been eighty four years just waiting since then. 387 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:22.799 I started. Once you get that baby buttoned up, it'll be fine. 388 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.920 But we had you know, one of your one of your former colleagues, 389 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.640 Jenny Dalton, Jenny Daln Hill, talking about just the name, image 390 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.680 and likeness situation. It's not it's not doing what it was supposed to be 391 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.480 doing. You know, you go out, Erica Barnes comes on the campus, 392 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.559 she wants to sign some autographs, or she wants to go sit at 393 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.640 a at a booth and get paid for doing that. Okay, that's well 394 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.039 and fine, you're working to get your your money and signatures. But now 395 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:51.039 it's just different. We're paying these guys or you guys or whoever's paying these 396 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:55.319 guys and women to come, which was not really kind of its intention. 397 00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:00.319 It's just kind of out there. The spirit of the name is this have 398 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.839 been positive for a lot of student athletes, and that's what we share and 399 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.920 our coaches share the stories um the sensational, extreme stories or what you see 400 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.000 in the media often. But when you hear about the stories and how it's 401 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.720 benefited some of our student athletes in particular, that you you say, okay, 402 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.680 this, you know, this makes sense. This is cool. They 403 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:23.160 get to UM now, you know, not worry about gas or you know, 404 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:30.400 those these type of things that are reasonable UM expenses. But with that 405 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.279 said, yeah, to your point, I mean, the NCAA president Charlie 406 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.640 Baker was there and said this talking about do we need to pass the bill 407 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:44.799 or have stronger guidelines, guard rails around n il from a governmental stammer from 408 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.920 Congress, in order to try to keep this kind of organized. Yeah, 409 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.440 well talking about that, well, that's you know, that's what we're talking 410 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.359 about, is that. You know. My first reaction was why would we 411 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.960 want the federal government regulating this? Until uh we talked to doctor Robins and 412 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.519 he said, because all the states are coming up with their own laws and 413 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:08.160 they're all different, you need to you know, you need to kind of 414 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:12.599 corral all that I mean is that is that the hope? Yeah, that's 415 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:17.839 the hope we need. We need to be united. UM. It is 416 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.960 a free entrance system, but you want to be a line from UM every 417 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:26.839 every state, every conference, UM to be sure we're we're having the same 418 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:32.559 structure and provided the same guidelines. UM. Because right now there's there's some 419 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.319 institutions or some states that are doing more than others, and you know, 420 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:40.519 are they being guinea pigs? Is seeing what happens? Um. So a 421 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.279 lot of communication and I think a lot more to come to be built out. 422 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:45.559 We talked about this, I don't know two three weeks ago, we 423 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:52.440 had a mister Geist your national title holder, and then Delaney, and we 424 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.839 talk about this all the time. Uh, here are two kind of almost 425 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.640 figures of the university sports department, right, they're the elite people of the 426 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.880 elite, And we even ask guys, how's it going in Ili says, 427 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.799 oh, that's not for us, that's for the football basketball guys. Um, 428 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.400 and we're thinking that's not right, that's not good. But you know, 429 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.200 who are we to say anything? And we don't get to decide, 430 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.400 right, and they don't get to decide a lot of times. You know, 431 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.359 how do I don't know how if there's a way that you know, 432 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:21.960 the athletes who aren't playing football and basketball, how do they tap into this? 433 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.039 Well, I think it's the way. It's a combination, and I 434 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.200 think it's part of its marketability and market demand. And you know, Jordan 435 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:37.680 is I on the prize very disciplinement at his at his sport and talent, 436 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.319 and I think there will be opportunity. I think maybe he started a little 437 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.680 bit earlier, you know, or if Nil started in earlier in his career, 438 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:51.440 there probably been more opportunities because now is this phase is now I've seen 439 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:56.240 in other sports beyond football and basketball, you're just starting to hear about softball 440 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:02.400 and baseball and women's basketball and gymnasts and um, you're hearing about it more 441 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:03.920 and more, and I think sometimes it's the way they market themselves. Like 442 00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:12.359 you see different um intentional coverage with like the softball College World Series. I 443 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:17.680 just rolled off the ANCA Softball Selection committee after four years and so watching it 444 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.039 on TV this year, but you see it on just social media platforms and 445 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.799 different insides through the locker room or two with within teammates. You see them 446 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.960 trying to market themselves, um, outside of this right, Like now my 447 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:34.200 daughter wants to do the braids, you know the way that she saw on 448 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.680 TV of the from the Women's College World Series or NCA postseason. So some 449 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.400 of that stuff I think is you're going to see more and more in more 450 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.920 sport. So it's just early for those for this to develop for some of 451 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.359 those athletes outside of the major and major sport and they'll be able to do 452 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.839 the some things exactly what NIL was supposed to be. Well, sell them, 453 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:57.160 sell themselves to get this money, right right, yes, right, 454 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.359 So you're just coming off now you can talk kind of like objectively, Oklahoma, 455 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.680 what the heck is going on? They look like the nineteen ninety four 456 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:07.920 you of ab the softball teams who are just kind of dominated, and then 457 00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:15.440 they broke the record the Arizona Health Forever. Yeah, you know that coach 458 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.240 Kandrea kind of adjusted his hat and Captain scratched his head every t you know, 459 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:23.759 every time they tribably put that on the TV train, right, But 460 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:27.039 it was a it was a it was a good run. Yeah. I 461 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:32.599 would see the city the state in Oklahoma that they just have rally behind in 462 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.759 their program. Um, just speaking of marketing, they've done a wonderful job 463 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.960 at there. But you heard this is the new world now, um, 464 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:47.440 Jordi balls transferring and going to Nebraska and the transfer poles alive and so here 465 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:52.200 we go. I think we might might see some different programs stepping up here 466 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:57.079 in the future. Well, we had idea on yesterday and asked, you 467 00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.640 know, asked that question, said, is this just the way it's going 468 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.200 to be? You know, you're her roster turned over? You know, 469 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.759 I think more than fifty percent, Tommy Lloyd's roster turned over about fifty percent. 470 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:08.319 I mean, is that is that the new reality? And she just 471 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.480 said, yeah, that's that's what we're gonna that's what's gonna happen from here 472 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.559 on out, and that's just the way it's going to be, and we've 473 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:15.640 got to deal with it. I mean it seems I mean, you guys 474 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.960 didn't sign up for that, did you. I know I'd been using the 475 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.839 line like hashtag loyalty is gone, you know, the four years we committed 476 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.359 back when I was playing in the nineties, and like you didn't question you're 477 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.480 thinking about going anywhere else right now. It's a whole other phase of retention. 478 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.000 Yes, for our coaches and our student athletes are thinking, you know, 479 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.920 hey, well what other opportunities are there? And um, there's limited 480 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.799 limited consequences and our penalties to doing so. Um. But I'm gonna actually 481 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.680 the pendulum might swing back a little bit. Um. I'm waiting to hear 482 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:57.680 about maybe the stories that the quote you know, grass wasn't greener? Um, 483 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.920 you know where are there going to be some stories about your regret or 484 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.200 I wish I would have stuck with it. I think it's I think in 485 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:08.159 the next two years that we're going to see a little a little leveling with 486 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:13.199 with transferportally in there now. I think that so you see you hit it 487 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.719 on the head. I ran into a couple of people and recently saying from 488 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.280 a basketball guys, you know, Looke was tough on them, and he's 489 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.519 always tough on everybody coming in. But if you hang on, you're going 490 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.400 to be a great basketball player. What you're leaving then these are God I 491 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.239 wish I had not left. I wish I had not left. I'm sure 492 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.280 that Kendria is the same way too. You show up, it's not going 493 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.719 to be easy, but by the time you finish, you're probably be an 494 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.280 All American. You're gonna be very good at what you do. Now it's 495 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:38.639 like, what the hell, I'm just gonna go find a better spot. 496 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:46.679 I think developing players is something key that I think coaches to to retain their 497 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.760 their their talent. And you know, these are these are seen athletes that 498 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.199 they were certain recruiting them and their families in high school and so then to 499 00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.239 kind of rerecruit them again. Yeah, um is it you know, is 500 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.199 a different strategy. Yeah, yeah, no, it's tough. Well, 501 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.599 thank you very much. I hope you recover from your big week from last 502 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:14.000 week. Thank you. We're we're recovering. But you know, it's on 503 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.840 to the next yeah, here we go. You have a little break here 504 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.800 before the school year starts. To enjoy the rest of your summer, if 505 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.119 I know what's worth, but enjoy it. Thank you, thank you, 506 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:29.280 thank you very much, thank you, great, great good. You know 507 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.440 what, what are the good people in the department? Right, And he's 508 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:35.920 done very well for herself. Yeah, you know if I think she's done, 509 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.719 yeah, if she wants to be an athletic director somewhere, I'm sure 510 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.559 she she well, she was for a while. It was yeah, she 511 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.400 was the interim until yeah, for for a period of time. But it'll 512 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.960 be uh, you know again somebody who's just always friendly, always at all 513 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.800 the events, always busy. She don't you know, you see her and 514 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.400 her kids at uh, you know, various stuff, and so yeah, 515 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.280 great to see. All right, take our break, well, baby back, 516 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.599 last last segment. We've talked about a lot of different stuff. So 517 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:01.320 give us oh five to zero, four, one, six, seventy four, 518 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.039 forty. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been 519 00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.800 successful for newly forty years. Now. Take a look back at the Ludolson 520 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.440 era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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Um, I have no college football reenlignment news, 576 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:13.800 Thank god. I want to talk about what's going on in the Atlantic 577 00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:22.840 Ocean. That that's mess. We know, what's what's the news? Um? 578 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:29.280 Well, My thoughts is, um, if I had if I had 579 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:34.800 that much of money, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, I wouldn't even 580 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:40.280 think about going going, going to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean and trying 581 00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:47.800 to find and trying to observe the Titanic. I'm not su I'm not religious, 582 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:53.360 but that's kind of bad mojo. There's probably looked like some ghosts or 583 00:40:55.000 --> 00:41:05.000 some some some bad mojo. But so and then I think I think that's 584 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:13.960 kind of like natural selection, is that it goes bad. I think that's 585 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:20.960 natural selection. Well, you're certainly um, what's what's the right word, 586 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.159 you know, tempting fate to do something like that, right, yeah, 587 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.119 you know you really are. Have you guys, Have you guys ever heard 588 00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:35.800 of Tennessee Treadwell. He was the grizzly guy. No, no, so 589 00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:44.000 yeah, So Tims Treadwell was the guy who basically goes went to Kodiak Island 590 00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:51.920 or and basically he was a grizzly bear guy and basically observed grizzly so in 591 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:58.559 in two thousand and three, Um, he he got mauled mald and Eton 592 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:05.079 by a grizzly bear and he was like, he was like a grizzly conservations 593 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.519 and even he was a nut. Well again, you know, you you 594 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.719 you push certain buttons and you take your chances. And I these guys obviously 595 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.000 did that. I I mean, I still hope that there's a chance that 596 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.199 they can be found, but I think they're running out of time. We 597 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.360 got to get about twenty four hours at the most. Yeah, yeah, 598 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.800 no, yeah, yeah. You play stupid games. You went stupid prizes. 599 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.559 Gabriel, You're you call and tell us that all the time. That's 600 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:32.000 why I don't go to the carnival exactly, all right, Gabriel, thanks 601 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.599 so much, man, I appreciate it. Thank you, guys, thank 602 00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.159 you. You know again. I mean, that's why I don't skydive. 603 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.360 We talked about this. Yes, I don't even get on big roller coasters. 604 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.199 I don't. I told you about my experience in Mexico. Right, 605 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:46.800 this is kind of stupid to rebut let's say it anyway. So he went 606 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.119 to Rocket Point, right. I don't like getting the water. I just 607 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.960 don't. My son and old the son doesn't either. But we were playing 608 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.119 I don't know, maybe thirty forty yards into into the water. Yeah, 609 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:59.159 everybody, every kids, all that stuff. So I'm not one of those 610 00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.199 guys. We're gonna play with a frisbee blah blah blah. So at the 611 00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:05.039 quarter of my eye, I saw this book. See the black thing kind 612 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.159 of going at me, coming at me, and I think it's a sting 613 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:12.599 ray and I run out of that water fast. Eddy run so fast that 614 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.400 I hit a hit the sand rock and I and I fall, you know, 615 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:16.480 flat on my face, and people were like, what the heck. 616 00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.239 They went back and you know what it was. It was a It was 617 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.679 a ripped T shirt, ripped a ripped black T shirt. It just kind 618 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:27.920 of floated on the floated on the water there, and I said, oh 619 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.719 god, I have my embarrassed, but I am not gonna do that again. 620 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:34.559 And never went back into the water. Well, you know, I 621 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:36.639 mean we go in the water, you know, there all the time. 622 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.320 Now we you know, we've all been hit by jellyfish. My wife, 623 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:45.159 My wife did get stung basting right, there's no way that we went over 624 00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:49.239 to the Red Cross, uh a place and they put a shot in her 625 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.239 foot, and you know, I think it was you know it was this 626 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.840 recent. No, it would have been about twenty years ago. My youngest 627 00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:59.480 daughter was. It was probably year two one of my lines and you know 628 00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.639 my but now you know why I'll never get lost in the woods, because 629 00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:07.079 you don't go in the wood well again, you know, uh, years 630 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:08.599 ago, a bunch of our friends, including John Wilmer, right, John 631 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:14.079 Wilmer, guy named Tom Lieb, a bunch of got Anthony Jamino st Hab 632 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:15.599 Morales was one of those guys. Yeah, what skydiving out of Miranda. 633 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:20.079 They did a skydiving thing altogether? Really And I'm like, are you they 634 00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.519 didn't know? They didn't ask me, But had they asked me, I 635 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.320 would have said, not only no, but hell no, what would the 636 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.119 star have done? They would have had to start a home. Yeah, 637 00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.679 they would have to start a Hony sports department like all those guys. Uh. 638 00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:35.599 I think it was. I think it might have been like a dirty 639 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.400 thirty kind of we're all turning thirty kind of thing, let's all go do 640 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.840 this. And I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, so you're gonna 641 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:44.719 die at thirty, that's that's that's what you're looking for. But yeah, 642 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.320 I would never you know, I'm not that guy they said that. I 643 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.440 think the joke is what the parachute was like marriage. You know, if 644 00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:54.360 it was like fifty fifty, would you would you do it? Yeah? 645 00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.880 No, I don't think something I've even I'm seriously, I've even stopped driving 646 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.599 fast right get off on the freeway. Yeah, I've never done that, 647 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:05.599 but I get what you're saying. I mean, I you know, I'll 648 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:07.360 five miles over the speed limit. That's you know, I said, my, 649 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:12.280 I said, my, my, uh, cruise control and that. 650 00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:14.519 You know, I just don't want to come stopping me. Well yeah, 651 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.480 but but even so, you know, I mean, like I'm paying the 652 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:20.320 fine. Well yeah, but there's that. But then there, you know, 653 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.079 I just I saw too much stuff. You know, I've seen too 654 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.000 much stuff, and uh, you know, I just kind of take it 655 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:28.519 easy on the road. I you know, if I'm gonna go, I'm 656 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:32.079 gonna go for a good reason. And to be there five minutes earlier this 657 00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.920 is not a good reason. Yeah, right. But you know skydiving thought 658 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.079 of the picture. I did that. You know that big roller coaster around 659 00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:43.800 New York, New York. Yeah, I did it one time and that's 660 00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.400 the last. Well that was it I did. I've done that once or 661 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:49.280 twice. Now that I'm I mean hard issues, I'm never gonna get on 662 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.599 that again. I mean, you know, going up going up that roller 663 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:52.760 coaster on the you know that when you come out of the building and you 664 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:58.039 start to go up. Halfway up, I thought this was a very very 665 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.119 big miss, totally totally get. And that was god years ago. I 666 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.239 mean it was quite a while. I mean I used to like that stuff. 667 00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.440 I mean, I'll go on the I'll go on that roller coaster at 668 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.559 Disneyland California Adventure. I'll do that one. But because you know why, 669 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:15.360 because I trust the people at Disneyland that they're that they're don't want to think 670 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:20.000 that thing's not gonna that the thing is not I mean people have died over 671 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.639 time at various you know rides, you know, suh at that railroad ride, 672 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:28.199 you know roller coaster that we always do. But you know, I 673 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.119 see some of these people that are putting these rides together, some of these 674 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:34.039 carnivals. I'm like, the Zipper. Have you ever go on the Zipper? 675 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.480 You know? I'm like, no, I'm not doing I go on 676 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.000 that the Small World right at the two of the Small World. I love 677 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:46.840 Disneyland, but you know, I don't do anything very uh risky. No. 678 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:51.760 I love Space Mount sixty four. I love Space Mount. I'll do 679 00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.280 that. I'll do that all day sixty four coming up. But that that 680 00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:02.159 drop at um the log one, um splash. No, that's it. 681 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.239 That's as high. Okay, that's that's I do that. That's that's as 682 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.760 high as I'm gonna go. That's not really, that's as highs I'm gonna 683 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:12.360 go for something like that. Okay, I'm not not doing I don't do 684 00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.000 those things. But yeah, no, I mean, Gabriel has a good 685 00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.280 point, you know. And and how do you call it? What do 686 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:22.559 you call it natural selection? Selection? Natural? I've never heard that term. 687 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.679 That's a term I thought. I I've used the term thanning that within 688 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.360 it out. Okay, that's that's what the herd. I had never heard 689 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:30.960 that, but I guess I knew what he was talking about then in the 690 00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:34.800 herd. When you see you know what you know, certain stuff that that 691 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.000 that people do, you know, you see videos things you know. Sorry, 692 00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.599 dude, I I you know, very tragic, but you know I 693 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.599 kind of had that coming when you did what what you did, right, 694 00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.840 Well, this is when you see just recently the someone at the at the 695 00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:55.320 Grand Canyon who fell four hundred whatever yards or feet from the off the deck 696 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:59.840 of observed. I would never do that. I I love Grand Canyon. 697 00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:01.679 I here up see you. I'm staying behind the rail. I gotta go. 698 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:05.719 Yeah, I'm staying behind the rail. Nothing like that. Oh you 699 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:09.280 know, yeah, I mean no I did. It's just you know, 700 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:15.840 you look, everybody has a different, oh, threshold, threshold for stuff 701 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:23.360 like that, marriage, dating, heights. Ever listen to him on marriage. 702 00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:29.719 Don't listen to him anything related to women or marriage. Guy, don't 703 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:34.360 listen to him when I say this, you know, happily happily married for 704 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:39.719 thirty one years after a divorce. Yeah, while there was that, You 705 00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.800 know what, not everybody, you know hits a home run on the first 706 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.239 at batch, right, right, Yeah, everybody. Everybody goes yard the 707 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:51.159 first time they get to the plate. Some people strike out, but you 708 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:58.360 don't, you know what, you go back up to the plate, welling 709 00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.360 up here with this story. Here, Hey man, look, I've got 710 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:05.360 a great grandson. Now he's you know, he's awesome, he's we're having 711 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.639 a great time. You've married a saint. That's yeah, and and and 712 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.480 I definitely out kicked the coverage, no, yeabt, no doubt about that. 713 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:20.559 You would be a different man. We got three minutes. I don't 714 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.639 know what we have going on tomorrow. We'll have some people somebody for two. 715 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:29.400 Tomorrow's Thursday, Right, I've got the I've got the Cultural Series baseball 716 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.840 game. Here, horses up to one. Yeah, they're they're an LSU. 717 00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:35.400 It's on the bottom of the second. They're dar good. So it's 718 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.320 Florida and this might be one of those years where you have the one seed, 719 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:43.440 the two the top two seeds playing against one of um again, you 720 00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:47.119 know who you're rooting for if you're in Arizona and they're not doing they're not 721 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:51.719 they're not doing that. I don't know, we're not doing that. We 722 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:53.199 didn't. We had we had him on our show Cup. Yeah, before 723 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:58.719 he left very by the book, Very didn't laugh, didn't brother book. 724 00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:00.760 That's kind of who he is. I mean, he he was all right. 725 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.960 Yeah, and you know he got Arizona to the to the championship game 726 00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.239 his first year. But you know then he hit the roade lost to Lovista. 727 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:15.440 Yeah. Could someone google my stuff back in my front yard, Somebody 728 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:19.159 pack all this stuff and I'll send somebody to pick it up. Yeah, 729 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.840 that's what that's what those things are. The pods. Um, I'm looking 730 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:24.480 at this, I can there isn't really a new a new update. Um 731 00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:27.960 just saying that, you know, if you read the thing that they heard 732 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:32.760 some banging, uh, some banging noises. But they're they're the story that 733 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:37.280 I just read this USA Today story. So they're basically searching in an area 734 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.280 about twice the size of Connecticut. So I'm not sure what the chances are 735 00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.920 of h of this. Man. This is just just doesn't sound good, 736 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:51.000 um Man, I don't know. I don't know. I can't imagine the 737 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.480 desperation. Yeah, down, I don't even want to think about the desperation 738 00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.719 down there. As the strong people are, people start to run out of 739 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.119 box. That's including the one or two people who run the place, right. 740 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.639 There's a lot of questions about the place in their birth place. Yeah, 741 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:13.480 there's there's a there's a one guy that's manning the subse stories for people 742 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.840 who are like paid the money to go. Yeah. I saw so many 743 00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.599 stories. I was so interested this morning because you guys talked about the history 744 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.159 and all the intrigue, but I was so many different stories about who they 745 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.679 are, how they run the it's just uh the company, how they've been 746 00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:30.400 sued YadA YadA, and you know it good equipment. Man. Again, 747 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:36.239 I am certain, I am certain that if I got in there and I 748 00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:42.679 saw that they run the thing with a couple better with an Xbox game controller. 749 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.199 I'm just getting right out. I'm just getting out and say no, 750 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.280 you know, I keep my two hundred and fifty grand. I'm leaving. 751 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.840 Here's the point. If you're in that thing for X amount of time, 752 00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:53.400 Yeah, we get no time. At what point do you think, oh 753 00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:57.400 no, we're in trouble, like twenty minutes, in a half hour, 754 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.519 in a day, will they lost contact? They lost contact like an hour 755 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.079 forty five and then you got twenty man right, yeah, right, that's 756 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.880 not right. All right, let's let's hit the road. We'll be back 757 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.679 tomorrow with some more stuff. Um, good luck to those guys down on 758 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.440 the tit town if you really hope they find him. But we'll see and 759 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:20.239 uh Jay Jay Johnson whatever, yea, all right, we'll be We'll be back tomorrow