1 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:18,839 Welcome back to a new episode of That You Were Wrong with Molly Handingway and 2 00:00:18,879 --> 00:00:21,559 David Harsani. Just a reminder, if you want to email the show, 3 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:25,480 you can do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. And if you 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,320 enjoy the work we do here at the Federalist, you can show your support 5 00:00:28,359 --> 00:00:33,560 by visiting our website and joining the Federalist Community for an ad free website experience 6 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:38,280 and access to exclusive content you don't want to miss. Thanks David, And 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,240 that's right, four dollars a month. We had a ton of people joined 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,759 last week, which was awesome, so those who haven't done it yet please 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,560 do so. It gives you a chance to support our work and keep us 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:54,240 thriving and be part of a community. So thanks, thanks for that, 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,880 David. Was this week the most exciting week ever for you? In the 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,079 first time you've ever supported a political candidate that person one. Yes, this 13 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:10,400 is the first time that I can recall where I actually loved a candidate for 14 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:15,120 office, even though it was in Argentina, who actually won Javier Malay. 15 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:19,239 He won handily. I think he won by fifty I think he got fifty 16 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,640 six percent of the vote something like that. He is you know, he's 17 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,680 overturned I don't know how many years, seventy years of Barnast rule, you 18 00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:33,239 know in that country, which is that country is a disaster. Not long 19 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,879 ago it was you know, one of the wealthiest countries, certainly in South 20 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,319 America, but even in the world. Now it's seeing you know, rampant 21 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:45,400 poverty. I think interest rates were up to like one hundred and thirty percent. 22 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,400 So if you're like mad about the eight percent or whatever it is right 23 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:53,400 now in your house, imagine that inflation, massive, massive borrowing and spending. 24 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,000 So what excites me about Malays are two things. One, he's obviously, 25 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:06,719 you know, small l libertarian, but also he is i would say 26 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:12,639 a social conservative as well. He's pro life. He's pushing back against sort 27 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,280 of the all the gender politics and all the extra rights and all the you 28 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:23,360 know, the usual social progressive all those ideas, and he's done it in 29 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,639 a very populist manner. So I'm excited that there's a country where those ideas 30 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:34,439 can be you know, expressed fully. And the guy does not like hold 31 00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:36,800 back. He's not a moderate in any you know, which is a kind 32 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,719 of a dumb way to talk about those issues. Anyway. But he can 33 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:45,759 convince people overwhelmingly to vote for him, and even more importantly that he convinced 34 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,759 people to vote for him during an economic crisis. Most of the time in 35 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,319 history, when you have an economic crisis, people turn to more government. 36 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Here in great depression or you know, the only time I can think of 37 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,520 that perhaps that didn't happen was when Reagan won in nineteen eighty. Every other 38 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,159 time Obama, you know, and whenever you think about it, people turn 39 00:03:04,199 --> 00:03:07,159 to more government. So in this case, they turned to someone who's going 40 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:10,680 to hopefully be able to even though he faces huge, you know, gigantic 41 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,479 forces they're going to try to undermine him, is going to maybe pull back 42 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,439 government, dollarize the economy over there, and do a lot of good things. 43 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:23,000 So yeah, pretty excited about it. So the most I've cared about 44 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,520 Argentina in my life. Yeah, Well, you wrote a piece a few 45 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,599 months ago about how much you liked him, and then he had that presidential 46 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,039 sort of runoff and he came in second, and I was like, oh, 47 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:35,400 is he not going to make it? But then, as you said, 48 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:39,039 it was a pretty resounding defeat. Also interesting to note that Argentina is 49 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,960 a is a whole country, and they were able to count their ballots and 50 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:50,400 have a result within hours of the polls closing, which is something that I 51 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:54,439 remember we used to do in this country as well. Yeah, I looked 52 00:03:54,439 --> 00:03:59,639 into that because I I wondered if this was kind of a direct, federally 53 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,439 controlled voting system over there, And it seems to me, though I'm not 54 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:08,080 certainly not an expert, that it's provincially run. So yeah, they did 55 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,280 it pretty pretty quickly and had the results pretty quickly. I guess if you 56 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:17,560 win by fifty six percent, maybe it's easier to to call it. Do 57 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,839 you think, well, it's we're having such problems with elections that it doesn't 58 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:27,600 matter whether we don't. We're just not finishing the counting of ballots for like 59 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:31,480 days or weeks in some cases, months in some cases. Actually, so 60 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:38,360 it's affecting not just presidential elections but local elections. We've had a real deterioration 61 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,480 in the quality of our election administration as we have expanded it from a voting 62 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,920 day to a voting season that can last for months, and major technological advances 63 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:58,399 and a complete deterioration of our system. It also, Yeah, now I'm 64 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:00,439 just going to say that, you know, even if they got it right, 65 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,000 you know, and all of that, when you take that long to 66 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,279 count, it just fuels conspiracy theories. You know. It just creates this 67 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:12,040 gap where people are, you know, where they see they're winning, then 68 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,680 they're losing. You know. It just it creates this Yeah, it just 69 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,560 creates a lot of conspiracies. I'm not saying that nothing is true when people 70 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,000 say, you know, bad things are happening in elections, but it also 71 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:25,839 creates a lot of conspiracies because of the time gap. Yeah, and more 72 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:31,639 time and less transparency leads to greater shanigans. So as from La, I 73 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:38,279 also I really like him. I find it fascinating when there are populist movements 74 00:05:38,319 --> 00:05:42,319 that are very principled. So I loved the Tea Party movement and hate what 75 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,040 this country did to the Tea Party movement. Here people were really focused on 76 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,199 constitutional governance and they were treated very poorly for that. It sounds like there's, 77 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:57,920 you know, something similar. I was thinking one thing unimportant and one 78 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:01,000 thing important. The unimportant thing is I was wondering if from here on out 79 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,800 I would be well served to just pick candidates based on the absurdity of their 80 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:12,920 hair, because like Javier Malay has insane hair. He's called the wig, 81 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,600 right, I think I read that in your piece because of his crazy hair. 82 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,000 I also love his energy and all that. Okay, The important thing 83 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:30,079 is that I get very angry when I read corporate media saying that anger is 84 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:35,519 what leads people to vote for someone who whose ideas they like. They never 85 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:41,720 say this about people on the left. So if there's a left wing takeover 86 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,439 of a state or a country, no matter how much death and destruction comes 87 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,360 with it, it's always painted in like a very positive light. And when 88 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:55,160 someone say loves their country so much that they are willing to vote for an 89 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,560 outsider candidate who they think in hope, you know, in hope and love 90 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,879 for country, they think this person might restore this country the way we want 91 00:07:02,879 --> 00:07:06,959 to, that is always characterized as anger when the candidate is on the right. 92 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:15,879 The Washington Posts lead on this was cartoonish in how it described what was 93 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,519 going on with with people voting for Malay. You have people who have been 94 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,920 really hurt by left wing economic policy. You just went through some of that 95 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,800 with the inflation and the economic ravages that have been caused through left wing governance, 96 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:36,519 and so they're hopeful and optimistic and they're voting for Malay. And the 97 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Washington Post said, like a wave of right wing hysteria and anger led people 98 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:48,279 to vote for someone with no government experience, a Trump fan. You know, 99 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:50,600 it was just like it was just it was almost funny to read it 100 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:56,759 because it was so absurd. Well, yes, I'm happy you brought that 101 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,759 up. You know, whenever the right wing wins and I don't have it 102 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,680 what I mean, but I've gone back even to like Reagan's win. You 103 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,240 know, it's always i'll give you the words they use. Its rage, 104 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:11,519 but it's also discontent, anxiety, you know, white people having anxiety or 105 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:16,480 whatever. And when it's the left, it's always hope and rebuilding and so 106 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:20,000 forth. Now I'm going to give you a very specific example. Actually, 107 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:24,759 so everyone calls this guy a far right something far right outside or far right, 108 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,759 populist, far right, libertarian, radical. Every story has far right 109 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:37,039 in it. When in Brazil, nearby Lula the Kami Lula socialist Lula one, 110 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:41,360 this was the headline. This was the headline in ap Lula beats far 111 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:48,000 right president to win Brazilian election. Brazil's Lula sworn in vows accountability and rebuilding. 112 00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:52,840 That was I believe in Reuters or AP again. So yeah, it's 113 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:56,360 always the same way, I think. I mean, it seemed to me 114 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,840 and maybe i'm you know, because I agree with him that the movement surrounding 115 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:03,799 Malay was actually very idealistic and hopeful, like you just mentioned. I mean, 116 00:09:03,799 --> 00:09:09,159 you can see the people are so excited about the ideas that I think 117 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,360 that he probably convinced them of. There was actually no real tradition of what 118 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:18,559 he believes in Argentina, you know, I mean, there's no He's always 119 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,120 got like a Gadsden flag behind him. That's those are that's American imagery. 120 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:28,600 His ideas are very American, you know, called liberal in Europe, but 121 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,679 they're very unpopular and certainly unpopular in South America, you know, for the 122 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:37,559 most. Like you said that he named his dogs like Ludwig and Murray after 123 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:43,039 Murray Rothbard and Ludwig von Macis or maybe Friedrich. No, I think it 124 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:50,559 was Milton and Murray. He also he is big on which he's big on 125 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:54,320 studying Talmud. He's very pro Israel, He's very pro America. Oh, 126 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,240 I had a question about that because I saw that that he studies like I 127 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,559 saw him wearing a kippa, and he studies Hebrew scriptures. Is he Jewish? 128 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,720 Is that a silly question? Or is he just doing it in a 129 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,360 different way. He I don't believe he is Jewish yet, but he might 130 00:10:09,399 --> 00:10:13,600 be converting. He he had. I read one interview, but I had 131 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,039 to translate it on the Google translator, so not to get all of it. 132 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,120 But it seems like he's really into Talmud, which I have actually been 133 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:24,080 reading about too a bit a lot, even though I learned it when I 134 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,519 was young, you know, to help but like sort of you know, 135 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,799 help him with his thinking and about about the world and about morality and stuff. 136 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:35,600 I'd read that he was he was instructed to read this for help with 137 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:39,240 economic thinking. Oh yeah, and I didn't see that. That's another thing 138 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:46,200 I really like about him is that he is an intellectual. I mean, 139 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,960 he has a PhD in economics. He's not, you know, so he 140 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,320 can argue on that, you know, on that plane as well, and 141 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,440 not just you know, as a populist, you know, which he does. 142 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,679 Can we talk about your column this week? You wrote, I'll give 143 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,639 you the headline the Washington Post, Paul Farie, I think I'm pronouncing that 144 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:09,480 correctly. Shows why professional journalism can't be salvaged. Now, what was so 145 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,279 this? This was sparked by a tweet from this Washington Post. He's an 146 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,080 editor there, I believe, correct. Yes, Okay, well, I 147 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,240 think he covers the media for the Washington Post. So I'm going to read 148 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,759 the tweet. It was one of the funniest tweets I've read in a long 149 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:30,799 time. So he says, someone invented the phrase quote citizen journalism a few 150 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:35,320 years ago to describe amateurs doing the work of pros. Yes, it occasionally 151 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,639 works, but probably no more than quote citizen cop, citizen attorney, or 152 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,679 citizen soldier. Do you want to take it from here? Because I have? 153 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:50,440 I mean, where to begin. I couldn't believe this. I hate 154 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:52,159 the media, and then sometimes they do things where I'm like, I don't 155 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,360 hate them enough. 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I mean, people can make citizens arrests. It works 192 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,919 plenty of times. People defend themselves, people help their neighbors, people keep 193 00:15:00,039 --> 00:15:03,559 an eye out there in my neighborhood. There's like a neighborhood watch, right. 194 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,879 But the funny thing about this is the attorney one and any kind of 195 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:16,399 like specialized intellectual skill. So essentially he's comparing being a journalist, which should 196 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,440 be at best a two year degree. I mean, it takes a lot 197 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:22,960 of comments. Oh, you don't need a degree at all, right, 198 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,080 we don't need a high school diploma. You certainly don't need a degree. 199 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:35,639 Journalism is a craft. They don't practice it anymore. But it's not that 200 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,000 difficult when I see that, you know, I always used to laugh because 201 00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:43,080 one of the worst journalists I've ever worked with at the Denver Post became a 202 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,840 journalism professor, and it was just perfect. Like, you need to get 203 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,080 your PhD, which most of the times means you've never actually have to be 204 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,240 in a newsroom to teach journalism and these are the people who send journalists out 205 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,279 into the world. But anyway, I just want to point out he did 206 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,960 also take this idea out for a spin seven years ago when he tweeted is 207 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,399 there any other profession in which more people think they can do the job better 208 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:15,879 than the pros than journalism? Medicine, teaching? And again, one of 209 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:18,799 those things is not like the other two. Medicine is something that requires a 210 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:22,919 great deal of education and really has since the thing was invented, you know, 211 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:29,519 many thousands of years ago. And yeah, teaching is something that probably 212 00:16:29,559 --> 00:16:33,440 you actually get worse with an education degree than better at the school that my 213 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:37,600 children are associated with. We kind of look at teaching degrees as a net 214 00:16:37,679 --> 00:16:41,200 negative, like we'd much whether you have a history degree or a chemistry degree 215 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:48,320 than a teaching degree. But journalism, like, even compared to teaching, 216 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:52,559 it's absurd to think you need some kind of specialized training in journalism. What 217 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,960 you need is a level of curiosity, a focus on honesty, something that 218 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:03,000 is completely like in most of our corporate media environment, and like a willingness 219 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,440 to just hear people out, a willingness to find out stories, and a 220 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,519 desire to tell the truth. You have to have basic writing skills, the 221 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:15,960 kind that you can develop through eighth grade, and basic logic skills ditto on 222 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:19,960 that, and certainly, like knowledge of history can help, or knowledge of 223 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:26,559 how economics works can help. I've never worked with people in corporate media who 224 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,720 understood the basics of economics because they probably went to journalism school where they don't 225 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:37,359 teach such things. But yeah, it's just it's so snobby and arrogant and 226 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,920 wrong. It would be one thing if journalists were doing a really good the 227 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,640 professional journalists were doing a really great bang up job. To take just the 228 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:53,799 Washington Post for example, this is a paper that completely, willfully and eagerly 229 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,079 participated in an information op called the Russia's Collusion scam. They helped launch it. 230 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:03,720 David Ignatius, who's kind of known as a mouthpiece for the deep state, 231 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:10,079 ran the original Logan Act thing where he said that because the incoming National 232 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:15,240 Security Advisor had talked to his Russian counterpart, that meant that the twenty sixteen 233 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:18,559 election had been stolen and there was a Logan Act violation. I mean, 234 00:18:18,759 --> 00:18:23,400 it really got things going crazy and in a way that was materially awful for 235 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:32,119 the Republic. They continued that operation, willfully publishing false stories based on anonymous 236 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,720 sources to convince people that the twenty sixteen election had been stolen by Donald Trump 237 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:44,799 colluding with Russia to undermine the Republic. This was like so bad. It's 238 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:48,880 one of those great examples where anybody with a brain in the rest of America 239 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:52,799 from the moment they heard this, they were like, I don't know. 240 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:56,519 I think people just voted for Trump because they didn't like Hillary. You know, 241 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,839 they had greater smarts as citizens than all the wisdom of these professional journalists. 242 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:07,839 The moment they read that absurd, comical joke of a dossier, they 243 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:11,240 were like, Oh, it's definitely fake. But not Paul Farhe Paul Farry 244 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:17,839 was out there years into the Russia collusion scam. There's a tweet of him 245 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:21,720 tweeting out a McClatchy article that is kind of known as one of the worst 246 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,960 examples of Russia collusion scammery. It's an article based on anonymous sources which says 247 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:33,359 that Michael Cohen had been in Prague secretly meeting, probably to verify this part 248 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,480 of the dossier that says he was secretly meeting with Russians. I think I 249 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,559 mentioned that. Who knows if this was true or not, but I interviewed 250 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:41,319 the guy who was supposedly on the other side of that meeting, and he 251 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,880 was like, I've been to Prague, but not in ten years. Michael 252 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,839 Cohen, for his part, says he's never been to Prague. There has 253 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,119 never been a scintilla of evidence supporting this claim. McClatchy runs with it on 254 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:59,640 anonymous evidence, and Paul Farhey, professional journalist who's better than the citizens, 255 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:03,240 said as if this turns out to be true, too, chuck up another 256 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:10,480 win for the Steele dossier, another win, like another. Nothing in that 257 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,279 was true, nothing other than like Russia's a country and Donald Trump's a man 258 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,880 and Michael Cohen worked for like those kinds of things that are publicly available were 259 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,400 true. But none of the outlandish allegations were ever found to be true, 260 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:30,519 not a single one. Yeah, well so, journalists, the one skill 261 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:36,559 they have is that a big institution like the Washington Post gives them a job, 262 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,559 and then they have access to people in power, and people in power 263 00:20:40,599 --> 00:20:45,839 give them information. They are supposed to be skeptical of that information, go 264 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,920 and figure out if it's actually true. That's their one job they do, 265 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:53,440 not you know, in movies they're like journalists are just like snooping through files 266 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,279 and like figure you know, figuring stuff out. No, they're not. 267 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,680 Someone's calling them and leaking stuff to them, and then they are supposed to 268 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:04,440 go and make sure if it's true or not. But because we have the 269 00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:07,200 key to being a journalist is don't be a dupe. Again, I mentioned 270 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,559 this on a much lower level when I was, you know, reporting on 271 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,799 local news. People will call you and try to use you to hurt political 272 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,759 opponents, to hurt some corporation, to do whatever your job is, to 273 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:23,000 figure out if what they're saying is true or not. Journalists don't do that 274 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:30,400 today. They are they are mouthpieces for people in power and and you know, 275 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:34,480 and a lot of citizen journalists listen, I'm not saying every citizen journalist 276 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,000 is you know, good at their job, or that we should trust everything 277 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:40,519 everyone says, but a lot of them have a lot more common sense and 278 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:45,319 a lot more skepticism that's needed to be a good journalist, in my opinion, 279 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:51,599 than do the pros. They've destroyed that industry, like, you know, 280 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,680 they just they've destroyed its credibility and no one trusts them anymore. And 281 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,960 you know, and it's because of this again style report. He's for the 282 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:07,640 Washington Post Style section covering the news media. I have a story, idea, 283 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:11,079 Paul Farry, something you can spend the next couple years on the complete 284 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,559 cratering of trust in corporate media. Like the Gallop survey that they do every 285 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,680 year shows that we are tied for worst ever in terms of media trust. 286 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:27,440 There is there are Okay, so thirty nine percent of Americans surveyed say that 287 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:33,240 they have literally no trust in the media to report anything with truth, fairness, 288 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:40,599 or accuracy. Thirty nine percent, another twenty nine percent say they don't 289 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,200 have very much trust in the media to report things accurately or honestly or truthfully. 290 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:52,880 And so of those and then so that just thirty whatever percent have any 291 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,079 have actual trust in the media. Those are almost all Democrats. Only eleven 292 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,400 percent of Republicans, which seems a little bit high as it is, have 293 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:04,119 trust any trust in the media to report things honestly, but sixty percent of 294 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Democrats do. And that's because Democrats note that the corporate media exists to help 295 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:12,400 them with their narratives, so they better be appreciative of it. That's a 296 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:18,359 huge story, the fact that everyone in America basically realizes how our corporate media 297 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,119 are a propaganda operation for Democrats, and they're not like the arm of the 298 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,279 Democrats, because I frequently think they're leading the Democrats. They work together and 299 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:33,400 they sort of tell the Democrats what to do. That's a huge story that 300 00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:38,119 any actual reporter who covered news media would be thinking of really interesting ways to 301 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,559 cover day in and day out, and instead he keeps doing defenses of people. 302 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,680 He did this one that I found when I got angry at the tweet 303 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,559 and wrote about it, where he was like, gosh, Conservatives think there's 304 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:56,640 something weird about the kavanaughs smear allegation. They find it hard to believe that 305 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,640 this well respected federal judge who'd been on the bench for twelve years, that 306 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:07,200 this is like an organic thing happening where people on the left are doing what 307 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,440 they do every time a Republican gets nominated to the Supreme Court and inventing a 308 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,920 smear about him. They think there's something weird about it. Well, there's 309 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:22,079 nothing weird about it. And then he quotes Jane Mayor to take his side. 310 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:29,200 Jane Mayor, who's got a demonic obsession with destroying the life of Clarence 311 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,119 Thomas and has done it for decades, who wrote an error riddled book after 312 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,440 his confirmation to try to destroy him, who's been part of every effort to 313 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,440 destroy him, who's devoted her life to destroying this man. He quotes her 314 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,200 saying like, yeah, there's nothing there, there's no conspiracy. I mean, 315 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:52,319 the woman is nothing but an activist, and he quotes anyway. I 316 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,319 don't know why I'm yelling about it, because obviously the Washington Post is propaganda, 317 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,279 and even to be acting angry or surprised about it is ridiculous. But 318 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:07,279 point being media delenda est they must be destroyed. They're destroying the country. 319 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,880 They're a problem. You know. It's interesting when we first started at The 320 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,039 Federalist, you wrote a lot of pieces pointing out how the media knew nothing 321 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:18,519 about faith, meaning religion. Reporters knew nothing about faith, especially Christianity. 322 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,720 But I see it in Judaism as well, And it's interesting they don't now 323 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,400 that this Gaza Israel thing is going on. I see that they don't know 324 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,279 anything about history either of the events they're covering. But more than that, 325 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,759 they show no curiosity to learn. It's all emotion driven, it's all politically 326 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:40,440 driven. There is just most reporters have no intellectual curiosity about these things. 327 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:44,319 It's just that they're activists. So you reminded me of something that I wrote 328 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,519 about actually earlier this week. But the White House. So the New York 329 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:53,559 Times ran a piece last week and the headline was why Trump seems less vulnerable 330 00:25:53,759 --> 00:26:00,400 than other Republicans on the issue of abortion. So they go through Donald Trump's 331 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,799 vagueness on that issue, how He's trying to occupy middle ground. They show 332 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:10,920 you polls that show that he is more popular than other Republicans on this issue 333 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,440 as well. And now obviously he has set some stuff to moderate his position 334 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:21,119 because like every other candidate on Earth, he's who's been way ahead in primaries, 335 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,400 he's already running for the general. It's like and while Ron DeSantis and 336 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,799 others they have to have more, you know, they're more focused on trying 337 00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:33,799 to get more conservatives and primary voters, a story as old as the American 338 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,240 political system. So the Biden White House, the White House sent a letter 339 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:41,559 out to the media that says, for quote, for the political press corps 340 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,039 spelled core wrong, especially our friends at the Gray Lady, which is The 341 00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:51,480 New York Times. It's time to meet the moment and responsibly inform the electorate 342 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:55,880 of what their lives might look like if the leading GOP candidate for president is 343 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,880 allowed allowed back into the White House. So, first of you have a 344 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,480 White House telling the media what they should be doing, not disputing any facts 345 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,759 of that piece, but telling them that you have to spin a story to 346 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,920 let them imagine how terrible Donald Trump is. Meanwhile, when I think about 347 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,279 those years, you know, it was pretty crazy. But I think about 348 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:22,839 a better economy. I think about fewer wars going on in the world. 349 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,000 I think about Iran not getting you know, billions of dollars from the administration 350 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:30,240 to help Humas. I think of a lot of things. That's what where 351 00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:36,000 my imagine imagination takes. You know what I mean? Can you believe imagine 352 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,759 if Donald Trump told someone what they should report and how they should report it. 353 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,599 I feel like there would be a big blowback about that, Okay, 354 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,079 But also imagine if you had a corporate media environment that for decades had been 355 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,440 doing everything in its power to lead the country to a darker place, and 356 00:27:52,519 --> 00:28:02,160 you didn't have people on the right responding like with that awareness Publican party members 357 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,440 still like hungry for adulation from CNN and the New York Times, Like that's 358 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:17,599 in bleeping excusable, that is, it's intolerable. 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You 367 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,440 can say, to all the leaks, they still give them to these papers 368 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,039 and let them launder not all of them, but many of them. And 369 00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:59,960 they're laundered through this kind of like left gift. This language, Yeah, 370 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,279 just the language itself, the rhetoric, the framing all of it. It's 371 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:08,480 going to be from the left rather than letting conservatives have those leaks. So 372 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:15,000 can you have all these left wing corporations and donors who fund and finance left 373 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,440 wing media operations because they understand that even if nobody says they trust the corporate 374 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,799 media, they still dictate what you talk about, and so you fund and 375 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:30,039 finance them so that you can control what people talk about, what the terms 376 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,440 of debate are. And people on the rider a like, gosh, why 377 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920 why are the media so bad? I mean, wake up, it's not 378 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,079 the nineteen eighties. Your quaint like complaints about media problems are ridiculous. It's 379 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:47,519 definitely beyond time to be much more aggressive in fighting back in the airspace. 380 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,039 Which brings us to another thing that happened this week, which I think is 381 00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:59,079 very important, which is Elon Musk launching a lawsuit against media Matters for America. 382 00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:03,000 Did you follow that? I did. I read an in depth report 383 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,279 on this from a reporter named Mark Hemingway at Real Politics. The headline is 384 00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:12,759 why Elon Musk is going a Thermo nuclear quote unquote. I'm going to try 385 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,200 to explain it. You'll let me know if I get it right. Okay, 386 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:21,880 So Media Matters has been around a long time. Essentially their job is 387 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:29,200 to go after so to smear right wing personalities, media personalities, and then 388 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:36,279 convince sponsors not to you know, support those shows so they'll go out of 389 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:41,200 business. So they've been doing this to Fox and Glenn Beck and others. 390 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:47,119 Just thinking back, and so obviously they do not like Elon Musk because he 391 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,279 has basically an open social media platform where anyone can speak. That includes some 392 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,519 bad people, but that also includes a lot of conservatives who have been censored 393 00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,440 before by said social media platform and others. So what they did was this, 394 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,039 if I understand it correctly, they set up a bunch of dummy accounts. 395 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,920 The just dummy accounts would say horrible things online and they would keep saying 396 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,759 it thousands of times, tens of thousands of times, until one of these 397 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,920 tweets would appear next to an ad so American Express, Nike, whatever it 398 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,599 was right next to it would be something horrible, like the N word or 399 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,319 some anti Semitic comment. They would screenshot it, take it to the corporation 400 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,880 and say do you want to be associated with this sort of thing? And 401 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,559 then that corporation would say, of course not, and they would remove their 402 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:45,279 advertising from Twitter, doing financial harm to Musk in his company, and he's 403 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,799 suing them for that. Do I have that? Basically, I think the 404 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,640 difference is that rather than them tweeting something out thousands of times, they were 405 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,559 just refreshing their own tweet that they had created until they achieved the outcome they 406 00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:04,599 desired, which was an ad from one of the targeted companies appearing in the 407 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,240 space around the offending tweet in question. But it was a completely manufactured operation 408 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:15,960 from a crazed left wing, anti free speech, anti American group Media Matters, 409 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:22,400 and it worked. Like they got all these companies ibm Apple, NBC, 410 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,960 Universal, Comcast, they got them to withdraw their funding. Media Matters 411 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:36,359 has existed for decades on this theory that if they can financially harm conservative press, 412 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,160 whether that's radio, cable, print, or otherwise, that they can 413 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,920 win their political battles. And they're right. It is a very effective thing 414 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,559 to go after the financial support, just like we were just talking about, 415 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:54,720 for conservative or non leftist media. And there has been very little pushback since 416 00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:59,759 the time they went after Rush to the Times, the thousands of times they 417 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:04,200 went after Rush Limbaugh by taking out of context things he said, taking things 418 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,920 he said out of context, and trying to gin up like media hysteria over 419 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480 it. And they've done a very good job of doing that. With cable 420 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:16,839 news. You know, you've got ABC, NBC, CBS being pretty uniform 421 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:21,359 in their thinking, and then MSNBC, which is you know, obviously part 422 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,480 of NBC and CNN being also very left wing. There is one place, 423 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,960 you know, obviously I work there, Fox that is not as cartoonishly left 424 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,160 wing as the rest of the people, and they must be stopped as a 425 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,240 result. They give voice to conservative speech, and so Media Matters has tried 426 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,880 to destroy them by working with sleeping giants and other anti free speech, anti 427 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:50,920 American groups targeting advertisers. It's really effective. Like you know, Fox is 428 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,480 overwhelmingly the most watched program out there, or cable outlet, cable news outlet 429 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:59,559 out there. But you know, you can be on a show that's barely 430 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:05,119 watched on NBC MSNBC and you get Lexus ads and you don't see that on 431 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:10,639 Fox. Always because of how effective this propaganda campaign against speech, against conservative 432 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:15,599 speech, against America, how effective that has been in the form of media 433 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:20,800 matters and their affiliate organizations or groups they work with. So kudos to Elon 434 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:27,000 Musk for taking them to task for manufacturing a scenario to hurt Twitter financially. 435 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,719 Yeah, I mean, I think it's a good suit. I don't know 436 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,559 the legality. I don't know, you know, if it's going to succeed 437 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,159 or whatnot. But I think it's time to fight back in that way if 438 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,440 you can, and he obviously can listen. I think that if you're just 439 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:45,360 taking someone out of context and you're popping it up there, I mean, 440 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,159 that's an age old way to smear people, and it's there's nothing, there's 441 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,679 no illegality in it. This is an illegal but you know what I mean, 442 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,559 there's no it's just how it works. But when you start setting people 443 00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,559 up and framing them this way, that's a completely different story, right. 444 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:06,039 I mean, I think they were always nefarious, but I think that this 445 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:13,199 is not illegal, but it is suable, and you know, hopefully Elon 446 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,800 wins. Well, it's really important to take these people to task in the 447 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,480 courts to fight back. They have outsize effect on elections. It's been a 448 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,000 really smart strategy from Democrat donors to do stuff like this. When you control 449 00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:32,639 the information space, you control the ground game. And the left completely controls 450 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,800 corporate media. And they don't just have the market dominance that would come like 451 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:44,960 through sort of above board tax tactics. They also have market dominance because they 452 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:50,719 are artificially suppress the spread of conservative speech and information through vehicles like this, 453 00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:55,119 through other vehicles, like other parts of the censorship industrial complex. And I'm 454 00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:59,000 a little heartened that the right is starting to wake up to it. But 455 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:01,800 there's a lot more to be on. What's you mentioned sleeping giants? Can 456 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,599 you explain what they do? Are they just very similar to media matters or 457 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,519 oh, you know, I wish sometimes like Mark Hemingway were on here because 458 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:13,440 he could he could say much more about it. He has written extensively about 459 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:22,960 sleeping giants and what they do is they organize mobs to come after advertisers for 460 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:28,199 conservative speech. And yeah, there's a place called the high pressure Business of 461 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:35,760 selling woke corporate armor, which looks like it deals with sleeping giants and how 462 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,719 they get people to boycott conservative media. Now, I will say it used 463 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:45,000 to be harder work for them to do this because they would have to like 464 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,800 contact the company kind of like what Media Matters did with this. Contact the 465 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:53,039 company and get it like individually, get them to take down their advertising by 466 00:36:53,119 --> 00:37:00,679 controlling search algorithms or getting Google, which controls most of the advertiser space and 467 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,000 the search space, to deeplatform conservative outlets. They get a lot of their 468 00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,239 work done for them. And it does remind me like what we were talking 469 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,800 about with Media Matters. It's very reminiscent of what happened to us at the 470 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,760 Federalist in twenty twenty, where a fake group called Center for Countering Digital Hate. 471 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:24,400 It's a foreign disinformation operation. They actually work to spread disinformation and they 472 00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:31,320 work to take down media outlets and individuals whose speech they disagree with, and 473 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,119 they get I think I was talking about this last week, They get like 474 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,079 regurgitated by the Washington Post and CNN and other crazy left wing propaganda places. 475 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,639 Whatever they say goes. You know, so if Center for Countering Digital Hate 476 00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:49,639 says X has a problem with X with such and such content, the Washington 477 00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,199 Posts won't do their own research, They just regurgitate it and print it. 478 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:58,960 Same with CNN. And what happened in twenty twenty is probably something very similar 479 00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:02,199 to what we just saw happen and with Media Matters where they manufactured a situation. 480 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,960 It's a little hard because I don't actually I don't actually know precisely how 481 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:14,000 they did this, but they claimed that on our website that we had comments 482 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,440 that were inappropriate, so people who came to our website and just commented on 483 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,719 our articles. They claimed that since advertisers could be on the page of an 484 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:29,480 article that included comments from outside sources, that we needed to be deplatformed and 485 00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:35,519 demonetized. They went with NBC News, which has also part of this disinformation 486 00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:40,119 censorship industrial complex. They the Center for Countering Digital Hate, went to NBC 487 00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:45,519 News and they ran this hit on us to get us deplatformed and demonetized, 488 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:51,400 not because anything they said was true, but because we're so effective at countering 489 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:57,320 left wing speech, and these types of operations have been run against all sorts 490 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,320 of people. So when you're out there and you're thinking, I don't feel 491 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,840 like the country is as crazy as one would feel from our elections or one 492 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,840 would sense from when I run a simple Google search. The reason why is 493 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,480 because of this meddling in our elections, by meddling in the information space, 494 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,639 and it really can create disastrous results, and that's why it's so important to 495 00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:23,440 fight against it. So I wasn't at the Federalist when that happened. I 496 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,519 had been away for a couple of years. And if I remember correctly, 497 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,800 the story made it sound like the site itself we had some kind of racist 498 00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:38,679 content, rather than someone maybe just setting us up in the comments and listen, 499 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,519 there are nuts and comments sections everywhere saying crazy things. It's not like 500 00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:50,719 outrageous to believe that. But the whole story at NBC is one of the 501 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,800 worst. I just want to mention NBC News is one of the worst outlets 502 00:39:53,840 --> 00:40:00,440 they are. I don't think they get enough credit for how dishonest they are 503 00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:05,320 and how much they're part of this smearing of the right. But so am 504 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,559 I right about that? So they made it sound like there was so not 505 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:12,519 just that. Let's just think about it rationally. You have a site, 506 00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:15,880 you allow comments on the site, and you know that you can get a 507 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,280 site taken down if there's like a bad comment on the site. The idea 508 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,559 that you wouldn't, as part of your bag of tricks, artificially place the 509 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,880 comment, just like Media Matters just did in an effort to take down X 510 00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:37,400 is like obviously that's what you would do. So yes, first off, 511 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,079 you know, like we got hit with an operation by a nefarious left wing 512 00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:45,920 act by a collusion between various left wing actors. But the article in question 513 00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:49,800 was John Davidson's article about how the media were lying to you about the BLM 514 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,360 riots, and that was what made them angry because like it was such a 515 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,599 big push to push this identity politics. It was a big part of sort 516 00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:02,159 of the color revolution that they had planned for that election year. And to 517 00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:07,639 have an effective conservative voice like John Daniel Davidson at an effective conservative outlet like 518 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,679 the Federalist was more than they could bear. So they had to take us 519 00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:15,920 down. And it's like just what you have to fight every day to keep 520 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,920 going. Do you think there is no media matters on the right. There 521 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,880 is no similar organization that could say listen, BLM has this. You know, 522 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,239 BLM says AB and C they're racists, their anti Semites. How could 523 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,280 you give them money? Do you think if you went to Coke Cola and 524 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,800 said, how could you give this group money? Because of AB and C, 525 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,400 they would withhold money. Do you think that that that kind of campaign 526 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,360 would work well? Now? You're getting me very What do you call it 527 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,960 black pilled, because no, obviously it wouldn't a You have to give credit 528 00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:52,679 to the left for spending decades thinking through how to destroy the country and to 529 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:59,880 push anti americanism, taking over educational institutions, taking over the academy, take 530 00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,519 over the media. Like you get to do things like what Media Matters has 531 00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:09,920 done to harm this country only after you've spent decades hollowing out your institutions. 532 00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:16,079 So no pointing out to Coca Cola that the thing that they support with billions 533 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:22,719 of dollars of racism is bad. I mean, you have to have a 534 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:29,039 media that would be willing to be honest about that, and instead you have 535 00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:36,079 the media that have also done things like hire a bunch of Dei things and 536 00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:43,079 focusing on DEI and embracing racism. The New York Times ran the historically absurd 537 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,360 sixteen nineteen project and got it put into school curriculum around the country. Like, 538 00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:53,199 we're dealing with some major problems. It makes me very pessimistic about how 539 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,280 successful we can be. Given how like at every step of the way, 540 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,159 basically the Republican Party and the conservative movement in general, who's just kind of 541 00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:13,800 like, yes, rendered yeah, could you tell? Could you tell what 542 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:20,480 I was trying to avoid saying, knowing you I did. Yeah, I 543 00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:24,440 mean I've vote. I try to try to explain that I have. I 544 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,400 have trouble explaining this, but I think that just the conservative disposition is not 545 00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,119 to be activist. It's not to march, it's not to have a group 546 00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:36,119 that go, you know, goes after people. A lot of the conservatives 547 00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:42,880 I know are you know, engineers or you know, they don't. Politics 548 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,239 has never been the center of their life, whereas on the left, politics 549 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,840 is your faith in many ways, especially now that progressivism has sort of infected 550 00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:54,039 the Democratic Party in the way it has. So when I look at polling, 551 00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:57,920 and I keep going back to the Hamas thing because it's what's happening right 552 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,280 now. But you look at polling and take a deeper dive, like most 553 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,960 Americans are normal, right, they're anti terrorists. But when you take a 554 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,840 deeper dive, you're like, oh, you know, college students are different. 555 00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:10,639 Younger, the younger they are, the more pro Hamas they are. 556 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,039 You know, the more left they are, the more pro Hamas they are, 557 00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:16,800 And more and more people are headed in that direction. So the entire 558 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,679 trajectory is wrong. But what do you do now? You don't have any 559 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,360 say within the universities. You see what's happening, So what can you do. 560 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:28,360 I don't know what you can do anymore because conservatives aren't built to want 561 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,559 to be, you know, professors of literature or whatever, and it's going 562 00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:37,320 to be very difficult to take those institutions back. But listen, someone wrote 563 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,079 me a letter. They send them a real downer sometimes, so I am 564 00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:45,840 not going to be negative. I think it can be done. A lot 565 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,280 of times. You will send me letters like if you have the right arguments, 566 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,159 you will win. I'm like, have you ever read a history book 567 00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:55,239 in your life? I'm just reading about Stalin and I'm like, no, 568 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,039 people are like the worst ideas. Also a short term win versus long term 569 00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:04,280 win, you know, and you just you have to do the right thing, 570 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,079 regardless of what the short term. Speaking of literature, nah, speaking 571 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:15,719 of movies, talk about culture. I actually did not see many things this 572 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,519 this week, but I wanted to just mention one thing. I did go 573 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:22,280 see a movie in the movie theater, which I do occasionally with my wife, 574 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,360 but not often, maybe twice, but twice recently, and I've noticed 575 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,840 something that really drives me bananas. So I saw a movie called Last Goal 576 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,239 Wins. Believe it or not. It's about soccer. It's about the American 577 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,360 Samoa Samoan team. It's kind of like what was that movie with the Jamaican 578 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,880 bobsledters. It's kind of like that, but update it. I thought it 579 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,920 was there's a story about some transgender person in there, but overall I thought 580 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,880 it's heart wasn't the right place whatever. I just feel like there were I'm 581 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,679 always just being lectured too, But anyway, overall was fine. Here's my 582 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,480 problem. Movie starts. Let's say at eight I show up at because I 583 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,719 can't be late to a movie. If I miss five minutes, I have 584 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,800 to not see it. I literally now realize you have to sit for like 585 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:14,840 forty five minutes watching commercials, previews like ten of them, and then commercials 586 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,119 again, like is this how it's been? How long has it been this 587 00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:20,840 way? I'm sitting there. I cannot sit in a seat for three hours. 588 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,000 And that's essentially what you have to do to see a movie today, 589 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,880 even if it's two hours long. Do you have a problem with that? 590 00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:30,440 I don't go see movies in the theater. But I know enough to say, 591 00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,599 like I've go to like one a year, and that's what it's been 592 00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:36,719 like. And it seems like each year it gets worse. Yeah, And 593 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,960 it's part of why I don't mind not going to slee. I mean we 594 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:47,199 also, my husband just bought like a massive Mitt Romney sized television for our 595 00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:52,639 home viewing experience, so we really don't need to We don't need to go. 596 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,000 It actually is not Mitt Romney sized. I remember him saying that this 597 00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:00,159 detail in the Mitt Romney book that he read and reviewed for which was hilarious, 598 00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:07,199 that the size of Mitt Romney's TV was like cartoonishly big and like that 599 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:12,880 when you get to the really big sizes, each additional size is an absurd 600 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,760 amount of additional money. And so he was telling me something about the absurd 601 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,559 amount of money. If the TV gets too big, I find it too 602 00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:23,280 like too much for me in my room, Like I feel like it's a 603 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:29,199 movie screen almost. We have a small house and a small room for TV 604 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,519 viewing, so it is. And I you know, I told him, 605 00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:34,559 I was like, this is ridiculous, and he's like just smiling and laughing 606 00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:37,440 and He's like, no, it's not. It's great if I have to 607 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,920 like move my neck and look across to see what's happening on a TV doing 608 00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:43,039 seeing like, I want to see the whole thing just sitting there. I 609 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:49,320 don't need no peripheral vision stuff. Anyway. Another complaint about movies. So 610 00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,079 we went to see I listen, my wife does not want to go see 611 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:55,719 movies with like violence or sexual content or anything like that. So I found 612 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,400 a movie about soccer in American Samoa starring Michael Fass. So we go to 613 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,880 see it. But the previews will be like horror movies that are like ridiculous 614 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,880 sexual like you know when you know, So the previews should match the tone 615 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,360 of the movie you're seeing. I don't I have someone who doesn't want to 616 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,239 see that in my family, or I might have brought my kids to this 617 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,800 movie. Like these are my complaints. I don't know who to take them 618 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,840 to, So I'm taking them to you. This is the where I've been. 619 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,920 Yeah, no, I have definitely experienced that with my own kids. 620 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,400 But we'll pick a movie that is that we've researched and we've reviewed, and 621 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:36,519 we're okay with showing it to them, But that doesn't mean that the previews, 622 00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:39,840 which frequently nowadays just show the entire movie. I know, wors and 623 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,880 all. So yeah, I don't like that they now have a preview for 624 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,440 the preview. Have you seen this? Like they'll be like there's like a 625 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,559 little like five second preview, and then they're like, now comes the trailer, 626 00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,239 and then they do the trailer. Why am I even seeing this movie? 627 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:59,079 I don't know? So did have you seen anything else? Or now? 628 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,480 Again? I have to say that I just I have a bunch of 629 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:06,840 streaming services and I'm always like I have nothing to watch. I just feel 630 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,800 like there's nothing really good to watch. So I watched a nineteen seventy one 631 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,400 movie called Get Carter with Michael Caine, which I enjoyed a lot. Yeah, 632 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,599 it's one of these kind of British gangster movies from the early seventies late 633 00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:22,159 sixties. And then I watched The Firm with Tom Cruise, which I've seen 634 00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:27,039 like a million times. Have you ever seen it? I saw it many 635 00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:31,559 years ago, but I don't remember it. It's okay. I watched a 636 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:37,639 little more of that documentary that we talked about last week called Slow Horses. 637 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:44,079 It's a documentary about how the deep state of the US government frames people. 638 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:51,039 It's not a documentary slow horses though, Yeah, but it feels like a 639 00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:59,000 documentary. It's a fictional description of the British Intel Services and how they run 640 00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:02,159 an operation the kind of which you hear about the FBI running, you know, 641 00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:06,519 where they were going to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, and then it like goes 642 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:08,159 awry, and I can I give put a little more meat on that for 643 00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:13,679 a second. Yep, So the show is actually about these six or five 644 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,719 I for here which one it is agents who have kind of fallen out and 645 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,320 they put them five who have fallen out of favor with the with the main 646 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,760 group, and they put them in this like building together and Gary Oldman's kind 647 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,719 of their leader. He's a mess and they love him. Yeah, me 648 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,679 too, me too, and anyway, so yeah, did you get so 649 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,400 many? He's like, I'm not good at giving these kinds of motivational speeches, 650 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,960 but you are all the worst people I have ever worked with, and 651 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:45,960 a disappointment to my like a horrible capstone to my disappointing career. It's amazing. 652 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,719 It's the best speech at the next Federalists staff the retreat. You guys 653 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:59,480 are a disappointment. Nothing has changed. Sometimes I think we should start these 654 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:06,599 podcasts with the culture stuff so we could let Okay gets listened to a better 655 00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:10,400 mood and then we won't be so angry, downcast and angry about the world. 656 00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,719 That's it. Did you go and see any movies or anything. I 657 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,920 just want to say that I had forgotten. I had forgotten a band I 658 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,280 really liked for like decades, and I don't understand how I forgot them. 659 00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:29,840 I had this memory of going to see in concert in Denver in like nineteen 660 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:36,159 ninety three Dead Can Dance. Do you remember that band Dead Can Dance. 661 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,760 I remember the name, but I do not know that I've never listened to 662 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,360 them or know what their music's about. They're brilliant and amazing, and so 663 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,760 I've had this like revisitation of Dead Can Dance and I don't know, you 664 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,760 know, I don't know why I don't have albums of them. I need 665 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:55,000 to get that taken care of. They mix really interesting music from around the 666 00:51:55,039 --> 00:52:00,480 world. They sound very haunting and gothic. The voice of the leads is 667 00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:07,800 just amazingly beautiful. They kind of remind me of the Coctau Twins, but 668 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,519 in a more like deep complicated way. I don't know anyway, So I've 669 00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:16,840 been having fun listening to that. And I never listened to more than thirty 670 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,599 seconds of a Coctau Twins song because I literally will fall asleep just hearing it. 671 00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:24,480 It's the most boring thing. So I hope deed Can I'm not trying 672 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,920 to offend you, but I hope dead Can Dance is better. I will 673 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,360 give it. It's a real acquired taste. I mean, if you weren't 674 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,440 a goth girl, I'm not sure you would like them, but I mean 675 00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:37,800 I would. I would say give it a chance, like put something on. 676 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,280 In fact, I have something i'll send to you, which is like 677 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:46,079 Altulaisic, a compilation of different songs from different albums. But I really really 678 00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:51,280 like them. And then, just like a lot of music i'm listening to, 679 00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:55,079 well writing, I like that. There's this thing online called Circle or 680 00:52:55,159 --> 00:53:01,719 Circle. It's like a French music production company or something. I don't know. 681 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:07,079 They have these things where they do concerts of really interesting people in beautiful 682 00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,639 locations around the world, and so I don't watch them, but I listen 683 00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:15,280 to them while I'm writing. So that's my cultural stuff. So that wasn't 684 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:22,079 very exciting. I realized, No, it was fine. By the way, 685 00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:22,920 it's going to be Thanksgiving, so I hope you and your family have 686 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,960 a very nice Thanksgiving. Quick last thing on music, just since you mentioned 687 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,199 it. So since Twitter has been monetized, I make like a little money, 688 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,280 and when I may say a little, it's a little money every two 689 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,000 weeks or whenever, however often they give it to you. So that has 690 00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:43,320 become my slush fund for buying vinyl. So the better I do, the 691 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,840 more vinyl I can buy. I give myself an excuse to do it, 692 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,800 and I've gone a little crazy. What's of life to hear? On the 693 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,039 vinyl front, I'm always like, I'll go out and get it before she 694 00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:57,320 can see how many I bought. But the other day they delivered like four 695 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,559 records to my neighbor and it came over and handed it to our She handed 696 00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:07,559 it to me. So I got in trouble. But yeah, that's all 697 00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:10,880 I have to say. Anything good in the hall I did, so I 698 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,400 do a lot of the bidding on eBay and I did get a Nick Cave 699 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:20,639 record Love In for pretty good price. I don't remember what else. I 700 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,519 just find things left and right. Yeah, that was basically it. Oh 701 00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:28,920 you know what I did get? I got an album from the group Medications 702 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,360 that does our opening song. Yeah, you got one of their albums. 703 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,239 It's pretty good. Yeah. They were a DC band or maybe Baltimore and 704 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,880 I forget. Oh yeah, and I got lung a band called Lungfish that 705 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,559 I just absolutely loved. They were also a Baltimore, DC band. Do 706 00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:46,280 you like Susie Sue I The first three or four of their albums I think 707 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,320 are incredible. Yeah, that's what I was also thinking about that song happy 708 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,880 House. Yeah, I've been really listening to that a lot too. Yeah. 709 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,239 They have an album called Join Hands where they do the Lord's Prayer and 710 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,119 it's like fifteen minutes longer whatever. And I just I love the guitar. 711 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:06,800 I like the feel of it. Big big fan of their early albums. 712 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,800 I don't know. Later they kind of I don't really know, kind of 713 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,280 got you know, I don't know how. I'll hope that Susie and the 714 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,119 band cheese all right, I'd like to email us Please do the radio at 715 00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:22,320 the Federalist dot com. We'd love to get your mail, and we'll see 716 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,719 you next week. Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray.