1 00:00:15,279 --> 00:00:21,160 What is krack alacing fellow thermal nuclear a efforts. I am Danta Valley coming 2 00:00:21,199 --> 00:00:26,440 at you with a mailbag podcast solo. It is the first hardwood knock podcast 3 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,640 of twenty twenty four, wishing everybody a happy New Year. It is also 4 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,439 as I record this my birthday, So if you want to give me birthday 5 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:36,759 shout outs and the comments, or just like this video and or this podcast 6 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,719 and subscribe, share it on Twitter as a birthday present, or tell people 7 00:00:39,759 --> 00:00:42,719 about us, just help us continue to grow this community. That can be 8 00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:45,840 your birthday present to me. 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If the link isn't working for some 15 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,640 reason, because it's been like a week or two since we got a new 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,480 member, which is a little bit weird for us, let me know. 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,519 But again, link is in the podcast YouTube description, Join our discord. 18 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:18,159 Our socials are in the podcast and YouTube description as well, and I believe 19 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:22,280 that's it. So before were hitting in this mailbag recording on my birthday. 20 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,040 That's again why I'm just gonna give myself a little birthday shout out there. 21 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:29,079 It is my Kevin Durant year, age thirty five. So for everyone who 22 00:01:29,159 --> 00:01:33,719 is wondering how old I actually was, I've gotten everything from who's this kid? 23 00:01:34,599 --> 00:01:38,000 To why is the age filter on that? I think that one might 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,359 have been from TikTok, not YouTube, but yes, I'm aged thirty five. 25 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:44,400 I feel like that's been a mystery around these parts for some weird reason. 26 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,920 I don't think that I've hit it at all. I normally try not 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,959 to do too much work on my birthday. It did not work out like 28 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,959 that this year. I'm busy, so I figured, what the hell, 29 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:53,920 let's make sure I get a third episode up. We did the Ognobe trade 30 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:57,319 reaction on Sunday. We'll have this up and then Grant and I will be 31 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:02,159 back. I think with a Thursday episode. Maybe it goes live on Friday, 32 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:05,239 but I think it'll I think we're recording Wednesday night, so it'll go 33 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:09,319 up on Thursday. So that's exciting. And another exciting note, since this 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:15,280 can be my rambling portion of my cut is ending. I know that I 35 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,039 don't look like someone who goes through like the bodybuilding motions, but I am 36 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:23,599 eleven or twelve days away from my cut ending and being able to eat something 37 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:31,280 other than rice and chicken and potatoes and that type of stuff a protein powder. 38 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:35,439 Of course, this year I tried for anyone who cares, this is 39 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:37,520 a full episode, so I'm gonna go. You can skip ahead. There'll 40 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,840 be time stamps. This year, I tried to really focus on whole foods, 41 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:44,520 so I didn't have a lot of protein powder during my bulk, But 42 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,319 that stuff becomes a godsend when your macros really need to lock in and the 43 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,000 carbohydrates are super low and the fat is just incredibly low. It's unhealthily low, 44 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:55,240 and I don't you should not do it for long periods of time. 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,360 I recognize it's unhealthy. This help helps keep me sane, though I know 46 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,960 I'm nearing my end. When I can start to see like a leg pump, 47 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,360 like veins in my legs and my calves, we are there, folks. 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,199 It doesn't take long for me to do it, so I'm excited to 49 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:13,879 be able to eat again. It's been easy, I will say it's been 50 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,800 easier this year. I feel like I have invented about it as much on 51 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,000 the podcast, maybe because I'm recording solo a little bit less or grant and 52 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:22,639 I talk a lot about it off air. But I did a better job 53 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,719 of not cutting carbs or cutting down my calories too low, too soon this 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,479 time, and so it'll be this was a fourteen week one. I think 55 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,039 last year I did twelve weeks. So I survived. I'll survive ninety eight 56 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,479 days, but we're getting close. It's tough around the holidays and my birthday 57 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:38,800 because you just want to indulge. Maybe I'll allow myself from extra carbs in 58 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,800 the form of like oatmeal or something tonight, but it's my choice. I 59 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:46,080 enjoy it. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna be any less excited that it's 60 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,439 coming to an end and I can be a little bit more free with what 61 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:52,680 I'm eating before we start the bulk back up again. That answers all the 62 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:55,280 questions you didn't have about what's going on outside of my life. Let's begin 63 00:03:55,319 --> 00:04:00,680 with this mailbag I'll start with some quick news I I just want to get 64 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,520 to because we're at the point where some of these things are just going to 65 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,919 become expired, and this will probably be the hook of the podcast on YouTube. 66 00:04:05,919 --> 00:04:10,560 At this point, the Pascal Siakam trade rumors are heating up a little 67 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:16,480 bit in advance of, or not in advance following the Ogn Andobi trade. 68 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,000 I don't know. I think a lot of people viewed this in one of 69 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:25,360 two ways that this either makes it more likely having a manual quickly and RJ 70 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:29,120 Barrett getting rid of og as soon to be free agent himself. It makes 71 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,199 it more likely that you are going to trade Pascal Siakam, Or does it 72 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,240 make it more likely that he just signs a four year extension. Now it 73 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,600 could be worth about I think it's like one hundred ninety million dollars, don't 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,079 I honestly don't know which school of thought I subscribe to, because the raptors 75 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:48,000 are just wholly unpredictable at this point, I will say, after ruminating more 76 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,480 on the Ogn Andobi trade, I don't know that I have any strong, 77 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:54,600 like different feelings of it. I feel like it might be a little bit 78 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:58,439 more risky from the Knix's perspective than I initially thought, even though I kind 79 00:04:58,439 --> 00:05:00,800 of liked it for them a little bit more. I think that was one 80 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,680 of the rare trades where I think you could have gotten more for og earlier 81 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,959 on, and you made that decision to move him. But if you were 82 00:05:06,959 --> 00:05:11,399 invested in him, I kind of understand waiting to see the signs that he's 83 00:05:11,439 --> 00:05:14,399 either not staying, or he's not developing like you want him to, or 84 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:15,759 what's his role in a larger context, we don't want to pay him. 85 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:21,079 I think they did well relative to just the stage of his contract and development 86 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,160 that he was at. I don't know what it means for Pascal siaka mark 87 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:30,560 Stein, however, did note that teams re main interested, and he names 88 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,319 some of the usual suspects, and there were two I think there were two 89 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:34,399 new ones in there, at least that I haven't thought a lot about. 90 00:05:34,399 --> 00:05:41,399 But he names Detroit, which Indiana, Sacramento in Atlanta, so like those 91 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:45,560 were the four newbies. And then he had Dallas in Memphis as a suitor, 92 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,920 and I know some people have speculated about Dallas, and so we'll go 93 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,319 through these and then we'll talk about any other teams that I would be interested 94 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:57,120 in seeing trade for Pascal Siakam. I don't love I love his fit on 95 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,639 a lot of these teams. I think the Pacers probably end up being the 96 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:03,040 cleanest. I'm just not sure he's exactly what they need. And he is 97 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,519 so bald dominant. Oh doesn't. He's not so bald dominant, but he's 98 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:12,279 bald dominant enough to where what are the concessions you're making with Tyre's Haliburton there. 99 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,639 I'm assuming Benic Mathern would be part of that trade, and so making 100 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,680 it stagger and giving him lineups where he kind of has the keys should be 101 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,879 a little bit easier, and then you're not infringing upon Benic Mathern's development. 102 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:26,240 I just don't know if it's It feels like any needs someone who can slide 103 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,199 down to the three as well as play the four next to Miles Turner. 104 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:32,759 Siakam gives you the four to five positionality, so you could play him next 105 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,639 to Turner, but you could also play him by himself in loan big lineups. 106 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,480 But let's start with the Raptors. I honestly don't know whether this makes 107 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,199 it more likely that they move him. My guess would be that they do 108 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:46,759 move him. I just think that the salary structure of their team is weird 109 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,600 moving forward, and that's part of the reason I'm reticent to be so high 110 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:54,839 on the Ojana Noobi deal. For them, You're gonna probably have to pay 111 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,720 R. J. Barrett and the Manuel quickly combined, like let's say like 112 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,399 fifty two million, maybe even up to fifty seven or sixty depending on how 113 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,040 much IQ commands and free agency, and then you already have Purdle on the 114 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,360 books, and then if you resign Siakam and that's just your core. Plus 115 00:07:10,399 --> 00:07:13,360 Scottie Barnes's next deal is coming up. He's extension all as well after this 116 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,439 year. I would absolutely move Yaka Purdle if you could. I don't know 117 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,720 which teams are gonna want that salary. It's not egregious, but twenty million 118 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,399 dollars a year for a starting big man who might not close on certain teams 119 00:07:24,439 --> 00:07:27,680 just because of the floors facing element or if you're worried about his free throws. 120 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,519 He is a very smart, cerebral player though can help teams. He's 121 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:32,199 not bad. I just think that that trade was a terrible idea for the 122 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:36,199 Raptors last season, So I get, I get that you could go that 123 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:40,680 route. But even if your core then just becomes quickly Barrett, Barnes and 124 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:44,600 Siakam, I don't really know what the upside of that is there. It 125 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,000 feels like you're still too tethered to what does Scottie Barnes become. But I 126 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,120 guess that's me undervaluing. Emmanuel Quickly is really good, and I mean, 127 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,480 anyone listens a podcast those I think he's great. I'm a lot lower on 128 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,120 RJ. Barrett long term. I guess you can look at it as well. 129 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,199 These are still guys. Quickly it's a little bit older relative to the 130 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,560 stage of his career, but looking at RJ, he's twenty three, Barnes 131 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,759 is still so is just so young. You still have that upside caked in 132 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,560 there. I just you get expensive a lot faster than I think that you 133 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,600 would with a core that you're banking on upside four? Should you keep those 134 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:18,959 four together? And so I would. I honestly don't know what the Raptors 135 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:22,920 are thinking. And if I was in charge of the team, I probably 136 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,800 would figure out ways to finago keeping Siakam because I like him so much, 137 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,199 but the fit next to Barnes can get weird, especially if you're factoring RJ. 138 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Barrett into the equation and you're gonna have a non spacing five. My 139 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,679 guess is that they move him. Whether they should or not, I don't 140 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,759 know. I think he's a really good player. He gets marginalized in Toronto 141 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:43,480 at times. We've seen him go multiple multiple occasions this year, which just 142 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,799 feels like he doesn't touch the ball enough in crunch time. In the debut 143 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,080 game for Quickly and Barrett. There was a little bit of that for the 144 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:52,919 Raptors down the stretch too. There was a possession where Pascal Siakam had some 145 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,600 brilliant possessions in that game, and there was a couple of crunch time possessions 146 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,279 where RJ gets tunnel vision or or Pascal Siakam just doesn't touch the ball. 147 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,759 Not a huge, huge fan of that. It just does seem that the 148 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,919 Raptors are kind of pivoting, and just given that Siakam is the when you 149 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:13,120 looked at the Adanobi Trent Barnes Siakam quartet, he was the old head of 150 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:16,240 it. It feels like they will move him now getting into the teams that 151 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,240 makes sense, Detroit, No, just get out of here. I like, 152 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:20,600 what are you sending out here? You give a future pick, So 153 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,759 are you're trying to give up on j and Ivy The Raptors don't really have 154 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,960 a need for him anymore with Barnes or in so far as they did have 155 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,879 a need. But you have Barnes, you have Arjie Barrett, you have 156 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,320 Quickly. So I just don't know what Detroit can and they just shouldn't be 157 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,279 in the business of giving up their own first round picks. If they were 158 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,720 putting kid cutting him on the table, Yeah, sure, but you're not. 159 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,919 You're not doing that if you're Toronto, would Toronto be interested in Aasar 160 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,919 Thompson or you want to give that up for Siakam. This just feels like 161 00:09:46,279 --> 00:09:48,600 Detroit is mentioned as a Seacam destination because they can get to cap space. 162 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,919 Then maybe look at that over the summer of the teams that were gonna go 163 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,919 through that were reported, I think Detroit is just my least favorite fit of 164 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:00,559 the bunch, maybe because I don't want to see Pascal wasting away in Detroit, 165 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,480 but I also just don't understand what the complexion of that trade package necessarily 166 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,320 looks like unless the Pistons are getting wildly responsible with their future picks and then 167 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:13,159 just making this sort of okay salary and picks type of trade. So I 168 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,159 don't love it in Atlanta just because I don't know what Atlanta's doing. They're 169 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,480 sort of like Raptors South at this point where it's all right, what is 170 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:24,080 going on here? You've ticked the can a bunch, You've made a couple 171 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,320 of swings, they haven't really worked out. I'm assuming that Dijon de Murray 172 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,759 would be part of that deal in some form, even if he's not headed 173 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:35,759 to Toronto, because can you play with Quickly and Murray and RJ Barrett and 174 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:39,080 Scottie Barnes. You're not going to invest that much specifically in guards with Quickly 175 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,120 coming up on free agency, Murray already being paid r JA. He is 176 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:46,240 kind of a wing, but he's like int that in between, and then 177 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:48,679 Scotty another primary ball handler. Would there be a third team as part of 178 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,679 that? Do you want? Yeah, you take a flyer on DeAndre Hunter, 179 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:56,600 especially with Scotty Barnes no longer in Toronto, but that can't be the 180 00:10:56,639 --> 00:11:00,120 meat and potatoes of your package. You don't really have a need for for 181 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:03,320 Clint Capella, Bagdad Bogdanovich, but there would be draft equity in there. 182 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:09,799 I don't think you're gonna see the Raptors as an aside flip Siakam for basically 183 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:11,399 no draft. I would expect him to get a first round pick, at 184 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,679 least one out of whoever they're trading Siakam too. I just don't think he 185 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:18,559 raises Atlanta's ceiling enough. He's not going to fix the defense. I guess 186 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,879 if they want to play him at the five more and any event, you're 187 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:24,360 not sending out to Jante Murray, that gets all sorts of complicated. We've 188 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,639 seen Murray improve as I think a shooter, and he's been a really valuable 189 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,240 offensive player this year. You throw Siakam in there and he again, is 190 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Clint Capella still there or even if he's playing with a yaka kungu. The 191 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:39,759 spacing doesn't look great, the shot profile won't look great. I think I 192 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:41,720 like him the least, the second least, So we'll go We'll start there. 193 00:11:41,759 --> 00:11:45,480 There's the Pistons, then there's the Hawks. Then I think I would 194 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,120 go to the Kings. There's a case to have the Kings below the Hawks 195 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:52,039 in this, but the Kings just feel like a smarter organization than Atlanta at 196 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,480 this point, and so I would trust them to figure it out. I 197 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:00,360 don't want to see Sabonus next to Siakam. I just I don't think comes 198 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,600 a good enough rim protector to justify it. And then you are going to 199 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:07,799 shrink the floor because Pascal Siakam is not shooting that well from three, and 200 00:12:07,159 --> 00:12:09,840 to have both of those guys on the court in a playoff series, I 201 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,639 think it puts a strain on some of your perimeter players. And we've already 202 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,759 seen Kevin Hurgerby all over the place this year, assuming that he would, 203 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:20,440 you know, stay in that deal. Fox. The shooting has really come 204 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,240 along. I've seen people doubt it, and it's just like, I guess 205 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:26,360 at this level, sure, but he's kind of shown that he can be 206 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:28,879 this really good self creator from the perimeter for a couple of years now, 207 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,440 and like the step back three is has been going for a few seasons at 208 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,879 this point. I just I can't remember what podcast I was listening to, 209 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:39,000 and they were they were being kind of skeptical about it, and I'm just 210 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,240 like, no, I don't think the Aron Fox is the best shooter in 211 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,559 the in the NBA, but we're in kind of year whatever three four of 212 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:50,279 this not being like a complete anomaly AnyWho. I just think that puts about 213 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:54,679 the sneeze. Wait, nope, I didn't sneeze. There you go. 214 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:58,120 So we're about to put I would just put too much strain on him and 215 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,120 maybe even kee It Murray a little bit. That's even good to increase the 216 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,200 difficulty of his wing defensive assignments, since Siakam and the Bonus aren't guys who 217 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,720 should be going up against wings. If the price was just so low, 218 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:11,360 I get, and you can keep Keegan Murray, who they're not willing to 219 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:15,679 trade for Siakam or anybody else per s nine. At this point, yeah, 220 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:18,679 I guess rolling it into that asset play. But then you do have 221 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,879 in theory fewer assets to go forward with to address some of your wing defensive 222 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:26,440 issues or just perimeter defense in general, and you have to pay Sakham. 223 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,679 If you're just paying some bonis, Fox is already going to be like he 224 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:31,720 was extension Ledge well this past summer they offered it. It wasn't long enough. 225 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:35,559 So you're going to start worry about Keegan Murray's next deal is gonna be 226 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,159 extensionally after next season. Just a very weird setup. I just like them 227 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,759 a little bit more than Atlanta because they're gonna be playing more meaningful basketball than 228 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:48,559 the Hawks. So that's quite frankly where I land. That leaves us with 229 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:50,879 I'm gonna throw Dallas in here. Now we're gonna get to some new teams. 230 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,559 I don't I guess I understand the theory of doing it in Dallas, 231 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:00,919 But then are you gonna play him with Derek Lively another nonche Are you just 232 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,600 trusting that the way Luca and even Kyrie can sort of create these high quality 233 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:13,039 looks for everyone and uplift these mediocre players into offensive competency that you think would 234 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:15,559 be so wide open, the space will be so good that he'll shoot well 235 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,639 in spot up threes, be able to attack some close outs. I don't 236 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,279 hate the theory there, and I like the idea of let's just get another 237 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,200 bigger name in here, someone who plays both ends of the floor, quite 238 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,279 frankly, and that's not something the Mavericks have a lot of. And even 239 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,360 if the players, you know, Derek Lively being a two Way player, 240 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:35,639 like they're just overwhelmingly flawed, and dinner with Dante Exim or Derek Jones Junior 241 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:41,039 the closest things they have to two way players. There's just those really measurable 242 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:46,039 flaws or big question marks. I guess if you're just giving up the one 243 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,519 first round pick and you can include, I think we're gonna give up two 244 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:52,200 swaps at this point. Maybe if that's like the basis of your deal and 245 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,399 salary, I get kind of rolling the dice on it, but I think 246 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,919 I would still rather see them skew more towards the wing end of the spectrum. 247 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,559 Is that that hybrid three four and someone who's actually gonna hit their threes. 248 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,720 I get that defense of the primary concern. I don't know. If 249 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,480 that Siakam comes in there, you could really build some electric lineups with him 250 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:15,440 at the five, and maybe Grant Williams or of Kliba is healthy, you 251 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,240 could do some stuff there. I still feel like it leaves them a little 252 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:22,279 light on the wings, and then you're bankrupting all your other assets to the 253 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,600 point where okay, then you can't go out and get that wing. What 254 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:31,559 is interesting, I just don't know how highly the Raptors valued the value Manual 255 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:35,000 Quickly and RJ. Barrett what do they view them as in the context of 256 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,879 that trade, But for the cost that Oganobi went for, just my consideration 257 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,639 on RJ. Barrett's contract, which I think at best is a net neutral 258 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,759 right now. Had the MAVs not, you know, maybe traded away their 259 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:48,120 twenty thirty pick swop, like, could they have built any of an interesting 260 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:52,600 package there just throwing in a first round pick some swaps, I guess they 261 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,840 wouldn't have had enough players, let alone a league guard like the Knicks did. 262 00:15:54,919 --> 00:15:58,000 That seemed to be the big thing here and quickly being called the league 263 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,840 guard is just a little bit stretch. But having that guard type player is 264 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:04,679 gonna stroke threes, create for himself off the dribble maybe for others. Not 265 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:07,879 having that probably put them at a deficit. They would have been a good 266 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:12,159 Ananobe team though, had they had the assets for it, and it seems 267 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,320 like they were probably closer than I expected just based off what the Anonobi went 268 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:19,360 for. I do think that might just say more about Toronto's internal evaluation of 269 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:23,720 both our j and e Manuel Quickly more than anything else. Though. Don't 270 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,919 hate Siakam in Dallas. I question whether they have the actual asset firepower to 271 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:32,960 get him. I just don't love it. And I'm also wondering could they 272 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:37,360 be better served with a smaller type swing, And I don't know who that 273 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:38,879 is. I don't think it's even on the level of if the Hawks are 274 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,879 just looking to get off of DeAndre Hunter, but it is just like, 275 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,399 can you go out and get a Jay Shawn Tate. I think that I 276 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,840 would like Jeremy Grant for Dallas a lot more than I would Siakam at this 277 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:53,960 point, and so that type of a player. I don't even hate the 278 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,480 idea of Kuzma in there, who probably gives you enough defense, does he 279 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:02,200 give you enough shooting? I like to grant it just a lot more. 280 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:07,279 But those feel like the better types of moves for Dallas. Indy. I'll 281 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:10,759 throw next up here. They're kind of in the same boat, I guess 282 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:14,119 as Dallas in that sense where I'd like to see them skew more three than 283 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,240 four. But they just the space and they could create for Siakham. And 284 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:18,640 so even if he's not cheating the three ball too well, he'll be open 285 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:22,400 enough to down some of those looks and he should be able to attack close 286 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,119 outs. I like the idea of getting him in lineups that don't have Tyreus 287 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,400 Halibert, and that'll give you more of a north Star in those moments, 288 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,599 and he can play with Turner, who at the moment at least for you 289 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,000 know, one more season after this one. It's just so cheap that after 290 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:38,400 you resigned Sacam and you don't have too much equity invested in your front court, 291 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:42,200 what is the cost of getting him? You have to match money here. 292 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:47,240 I guess Bruce Brown would be part of that outgoing money. Would it 293 00:17:47,319 --> 00:17:51,599 be like Toronto should want Buddy Healed for you gonna have Seacam into the equation, 294 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,920 though you're right you might really need Healed those sticking in Indy. Does 295 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,319 Toronto even want bennan Icmatherm at this point? If for getting Marjorie Barrett or 296 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,160 Manual quickly, how would they evaluate him? I'll just assume Jarres Walker would 297 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,200 be part of that trade. If you're gonna get picks from Indy one of 298 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,400 those young players and then salary, I guess that's the reasonable place to start 299 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:12,240 up. And I think that the Pacers that Sacam does more for that team 300 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:18,240 than a lot of the other ones that were mentioned in here. I just 301 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,559 again, as so many teams are looking for these three four types, I 302 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,119 might appreciate Jeremy Grant or Kyle Kuzman Indy more than I would. This comes 303 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,400 closer to being borderline for me, where it's you know, if the price 304 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,759 isn't too steep, or maybe it doesn't cost you as many picks, and 305 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:36,319 you're getting rid of Mathren and Walker and Seacam's coming in and you're getting to 306 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,119 keep Buddy healed. As part of that, I think Bruce Brown becomes a 307 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,920 little bit less important and we're seeing that he's just not I think we had 308 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,720 someone of the discord was unhappy with his defense this year. I don't want 309 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,440 to say he's been miscast necessarily. He's probably been a little bit less impathful 310 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,359 on offense than I would have assumed. It's just he's not that player, 311 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,720 and you sort of signed him to be that stop gaps fit in Indy though, 312 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,839 I just you would have to tell me what what is the cost for 313 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,920 Indy. And then on the flip side of that, I don't love the 314 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,200 potential return for Toronto. If you're looking for picks focused and it's just Jarris 315 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,599 Walker, Picks and Salary. I guess that's semi interesting. I don't I'm 316 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,559 just not a Benedict Maathne guy, it feels like, and you already have 317 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,839 that inconsistency element with r J there, and of course having quickly already there 318 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,559 too. I don't know how much you need a excuse me, Benedic Maathne 319 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:29,279 type to evaluate, but I would love to see sort of a five man 320 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,400 unit, assuming none of these guys get dealt in the Seacam trade of Siakam, 321 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,920 Miles Turner, Buddy Healed Halliburton, and then Aaron NEI Smith Like. 322 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:40,599 That is a lineup that could, I think, really do some two way 323 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,359 damage for the Pacers, which is why I would put them fairly high up 324 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,960 on this list. Would they be my top billing for Siakam in general? 325 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,839 In a vacuum where hey, we're going through teams that they should forget about, 326 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,039 well, don't forget about assets, but just forget about the realism of 327 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,599 how interested they are. I guess the Pacers come pretty close to being like 328 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,519 a face destination. But the next team I'm gonna put up here is the 329 00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:04,400 final team that was the one that just sort of snuck into the sty report. 330 00:20:04,759 --> 00:20:08,000 I kind of like the Grizzlies. Do you have Jared Jackson Junior there? 331 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:11,279 I don't know if you get them enough rebounding mileage out of the Siakam 332 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,920 Jared Jackson junior front court. But that's not any different than you know, 333 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,599 it can't be any worse than some of the front court combinations you're running out 334 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,799 right now. Salary structures in Memphis make it difficult. You're not going to 335 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:26,279 trade Desmond Bane or Jared Jackson Junior or John Morant, So you're looking at 336 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:30,039 like salaries to use to match at least two of Brandon Clark, Steven Adams 337 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:34,039 and Luke Kenard, all three of whom are injured and banged up, two 338 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,400 of whom have not played at all this season, and Clark and Adams. 339 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:41,640 So you need a whole lot of picks in there to really make that work. 340 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,279 And it might even be all three of those players. I don't know 341 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,960 if your Adams is one year left on his deal, it's not, and 342 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:51,079 it's not a huge amount, so it's not too backbreaking. Do you like 343 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,880 Clark? If you're Toronto, it just feels very lopsided. Do you get 344 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,880 Marcus Smart in on that trade? Is that something you look at with Toronto 345 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,200 have interest in maybe after having moved Annobe, so you can build some stuff 346 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:08,039 where it's Smart and then another one of those salaries I mentioned I'd probably go 347 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,119 with. I might just take the flyer on Canard if they're offering both. 348 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,920 But I don't know if they would be offering both. Uh, but Memphis 349 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,039 so they can get there with the money while keeping Bain Jackson Junior Morant. 350 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,400 They have all their own first round picks. They did burn some pick equity 351 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:26,839 on the Marcus Smart trade itself, but they they have first round picks to 352 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,720 trade. The idea of having Morant, Baine, Jackson and Siakam and then 353 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,359 I don't know who is still part of that. I think, you know, 354 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,279 if Smart is still there because you just gave up all the first round 355 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:44,279 picks and salary matching, all right, that's a lineup that could do some 356 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,920 defensive damage. You get enough spacing, I think between you know, just 357 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:52,480 having Desmond, Baine, Jaw Smart as the secondary option that of course triple 358 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:55,920 J. I think it's enough. But if you keep Lucnard as part of 359 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,640 the deal, and maybe Marcus mart is going out and Lucnar is actually healthy. 360 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:03,519 There's a lot more spacing there, and I think you have enough just 361 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,599 I mean Siakam, Jared Jackson Junior and even Bain. You have enough defense 362 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:11,240 in there to do some damage on that end of the floor. I would 363 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:15,519 just be Maybe it's because I have such a not an undefined hold on it, 364 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,440 but it's just such a curiosity. I wouldn't mind seeing Siakam in Memphis 365 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:23,039 might be my favorite destination of all the just the rumored ones that have been 366 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:27,119 mentioned. Whether their package stands up to others, I think if you're looking 367 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,839 at the Kings, if you're looking at the Hawks, even if you're looking 368 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:37,960 at the Pacers, not really so much the Maverick. I guess the Mavericks 369 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,200 all the other teams I feel like can do more for the Raptors in terms 370 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,960 of providing immediate impact players where it doesn't seem like the Raptors are looking to 371 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:51,359 just start over, tear it down and rebuild. So that's where Memphis is 372 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,880 gonna struggle. You have to be be fine with Lukenar's health and or be 373 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,720 really high on Marcus Smart. Should you be Toronto I'm not outside the realm 374 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,759 of pons possibility, you get. It just feels like oddly sized. If 375 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:06,160 you go, if you all of a sudden have Marcus Smart and r J 376 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,880 Barrett and Emmanuel quickly and then Scottie Barnes and Yako Peerl, I guess that's 377 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:17,000 like, maybe I'm underestimating how big RJ actually is. It just be it 378 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:18,519 would be a weird. You can do a lot of different things with that. 379 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,480 But if you're still having Dennis Shooter on the roster with that, does 380 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:25,039 feel like you skew a little bit too far towards the guard end of the 381 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:29,000 spectrum. But shooters reasonably priced at the moment, not on a long term 382 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:33,920 deal. So perhaps if you really like Smart in Toronto, that is something 383 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,519 that would appeal Smart another salary or two and picks maybe take a flyer and 384 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,720 one of the younger guys too. Do they want to Santi Aldama? As 385 00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:44,200 I hear Williams rebuilding project, is there any value for David Raley or Jake 386 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:47,480 Lravia at this point? Do you like Exavier Tilmot as sort of a backup 387 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:52,960 big type? I just I would love to see the Jackson Siakam from court 388 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:56,559 dynamic basically is where man I think just having Jaw and Bain that would be 389 00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:00,279 all sorts of fun. I think that makes Memphis just an an incredibly immediate 390 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,079 threat, Like should they even make the play in to have those top four? 391 00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:07,519 Because I like Siakam way more than I do Marcus Smart, I think 392 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:11,000 you just become more of a threat if we're looking for any dark horses that 393 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:15,279 can kind of come out of left field here. I hope people have mentioned 394 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:18,079 the Thunder Seacom's a little bit too. If he's gonna be that ball dominant, 395 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,240 I also want him to be a better shooter than he is, and 396 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:25,319 I also definitely want Josh Giddy being sent out as part of that trade. 397 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,240 So I don't love the idea of, well, let's cannibalize some touches from 398 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,160 J Dubb and shake gilg Alexander and give it to Siakam and just some of 399 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,720 the offensive concerns that they have had with their top end units where it doesn't 400 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,119 feel like there's enough shooting or spacing at times as drive heavy as the Thunder 401 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,559 are, I just don't I don't love it. I could understand it, 402 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,680 but I don't love it. They're not a team that I would necessarily circle 403 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:52,480 in the Seakam sweepstakes. I'm surprised that Golden State hasn't been mentioned more. 404 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,680 Maybe they're spacing concerns there. Do they just not want to inject another curve 405 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,480 ball into the equation when this season has already kind of gone off the rails. 406 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,480 But they have a lot of questions on defense, especially without Draymond Green 407 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,400 playing Siakam with Steph that is just a two man dynamic that I think could 408 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:14,000 develop exceedingly well. I think at this point, because R. J. 409 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,799 Barrett is now in Toronto, you're probably looking at more of well and quickly 410 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:19,880 he's in Toronto, you're I think it would still be the Chris Paul and 411 00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:23,359 stuff route is just the cleanest way to get there. But perhaps you can 412 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,920 give up an old Jananobi. Does that make Andrew Wiggins more valuable too Toronto 413 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,160 in that in those potential talks and if he does, like, how many 414 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,039 picks are you attaching and how do the Warriors feel about going wing for kind 415 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,519 of big and then your best wing defender at that point is Jonathan Minga and 416 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:44,359 Moses Moody, assuming both stick as part of that deal. I just think 417 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,400 for how urgent Golden State's timeline is, I like the idea of Siakam with 418 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:52,559 them more than I do some of the other team Detroit certainly than we mentioned 419 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:56,119 Atlanta. Then we mentioned I do worry about the floor balance if Draymond Green 420 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,759 is gonna stay as part of that deal at the same time, you've played 421 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:02,680 him a bunch with maybe you make it work. I think I'd just be 422 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:07,240 more concerned with you kind of need to still hold out hope for Wiggins in 423 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,400 that veins and Seacam's not a wing, and then can you afford to give 424 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,720 up Wiggins in that that package? I think I would say no, just 425 00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:18,079 because you're getting Seacam's creation, which cancels out some of what Chris Paul does 426 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,839 for you, when just the emergence of Pajemski probably helps you offset that a 427 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,160 little bit more. But I could also understand the thought process of Toronto valuing 428 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:33,160 Andrew Wiggins more than Chris Paul's ostensibly expiring contract. That feels like pretty much 429 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:37,319 it when you're looking at perspective Siakam suitors. I don't think that, Yeah, 430 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,440 we've seen Houston kind of poke around like second bigs. I don't think 431 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:45,240 they're ones that that are gonna get in there. Sacam does not work in 432 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,079 New Orleans. They have they have the powder to make a move, but 433 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,119 it's just that's not it. I don't think the Hornets are gonna just lose 434 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,440 their minds and decide to skew towards the win. Now move and get like 435 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:57,680 that would be very Detroit. Siakam and Brooklyn interest me a little bit. 436 00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:02,279 If you don't have to give up McHale Bridges and you're confident that he's going 437 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,359 to resign, and they have the salary structure just to make that work. 438 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:10,079 How many picks does it take though at that point? And do you think 439 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,599 that you can play and Nick Claxton together. You certainly can't play both of 440 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,559 them with Ben Simmons. Siakam and Ben Simmons together could be an issue with 441 00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:21,079 Ben Simmons's salary being moved as part of that trade. You can get there 442 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,880 without just because you have Spencer Dinwide, you have Dorian Finney Smith, you 443 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,079 have Roys O'Neil's expiring contract. Don't love him in Brooklyn. He's not the 444 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,920 guy that I would go all in for. But depending on the cost McHale 445 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,559 bridges in Siakam moving forward, and then I think you could probably get him 446 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,480 to play with Mick Claxton. I just I trust Saka more than I do 447 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:44,799 Ben Simmons to make that work. I've thought a little bit about Chicago just 448 00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:48,519 they're playing well. The zach Lavine Siakam Challenge trade is no longer really you 449 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,680 know, a possibility into oars. It ever was just based off what Toronto 450 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:57,799 already already did, but in Chicago like sort of taken up. I don't 451 00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:00,559 want to see him playing too much Vouch, but like if you can use 452 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:04,480 him as the lone big and in lineups with Derozen and all the kind of 453 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,519 wings that they have, like Kobe White the way he's been playing, you 454 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,680 just don't have a lot of pick equity, and so you do have guys 455 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:14,000 that could probably help Toronto right away. Are you willing to go a pick 456 00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:17,000 in Patrick Williams and Salary? Is there a third team that would send you 457 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,599 stuff for zach Lavine as part of that deal, because I just don't think 458 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,960 Toronto's gonna be interested in him after getting quickly and also Barrett to a lesser 459 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,839 extent that might be something to monitor. I wouldn't just I don't want to 460 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,599 see Chicago tilt towards the wind now direction, even if they could put up 461 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,400 a really good package for I think it could be a competitive package when you're 462 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,160 looking at the first that they have available to give up is Patrick Williams included, 463 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,279 you have to hold on to Kobe White as part of that deal, 464 00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,039 I think to make it the most worthwhile I don't know that Toronto's gonna have 465 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:52,759 an intense amount of interest in Alex Caruso just because then you're skewing smaller, 466 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,920 but that is someone who could defend his his ass off. Would you play 467 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,640 him in quickly together him Dennis Schreuder and quickly in Barnes and go the three 468 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,559 the three guard route like that gets a little complicated, So maybe a trade 469 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:08,039 here is just more complex and less doable than I initially thought. But like 470 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,440 kind of just having Siaka, I probably like Siaka Chakak a little bit more. 471 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,599 For Levina is still there. That could just be a team I would 472 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,319 see like sort of sneak up in on that. That would pretty much do 473 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,519 it. In terms of just I don't think the Clippers, I do feel 474 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:26,200 like they might have the horses to get if they were dangling Terrence Man the 475 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,839 first round pick they could give up, they still have matching salary to send 476 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,759 out. I don't know if you want Norman Powell necessarily. I think you 477 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,640 need more of a Jeremy Grant type, just someone who's more plug and play 478 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,319 if there, whether they're big or wings, since you have Harden, Paul 479 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:45,759 George and Kawhi Leonard and so I think just in a vacuum. My favorite 480 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,799 Pascal Siakam trade destinations that I think are both realistic and well, I don't 481 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,279 know if one of those is realistic, but Memphis might be my favorite Pascal 482 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,480 Siakam destination. India is still up there. I kind of still like Golden 483 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,599 State, and I don't mind Dallas. How's that for just sort of this 484 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,200 lukewarm and tepid whatever, And I think that kind of does it for me. 485 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,240 I don't want to see them, even if if the Lakers had the 486 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,720 the like, the the assets to get it done. Words, yeah, 487 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:15,079 like we'll take your distance first and like whatever else you could offer swaps and 488 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,880 then Ruey Hotcher Moore, d lan Angel Russell. That's just that's not gonna 489 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,519 be enough, so let's not even waste time on that. I thought about 490 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,680 the jazz briefly. But if you had Larry market In, Walker Kessler and 491 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:30,279 Siakam, I just that's probably It's probably you could get some creation from Siakam, 492 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,079 which is what they need, and so that makes it a little easier 493 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,119 on Deontay George. I just don't that would be such a weird pivot for 494 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,119 them to acquire this soon to be free Asian. I think I'd rather see 495 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,799 okay See Taka. That's the one where it's I don't love the fit. 496 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,079 But if they were gonna make a swing and they don't want to give up 497 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,240 like eight first round picks to do it, it's just, oh, this 498 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,039 only cost us two first round picks and a young player or something along those 499 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:53,920 lines. I think I'd like okay See a lot better than I would like 500 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,200 a Utah, a Sacramento, certainly a New Orleans more than more than a 501 00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,240 Dallas too. So I don't know where where okay See rates. I'm like 502 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:06,839 the whole rankings I just went through, definitely below Memphis and Indie for me, 503 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000 which I guess are my two favorite spots, even though I don't think 504 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:12,720 the Oakom is a perfect destination for or I don't think Seacome is a perfect 505 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,640 player for Indy. It's okay, see like a solid They're my top five 506 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,599 probably just sort of sort of thinking about it. I like the more than 507 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,400 Sacramento, like I said, or Dallas. Uh. Do I like them 508 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,240 more than Golden State? Probably not, just because Golden States timeline. It's 509 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,759 more urgent. And let's just see how far this thunder thorer could take. 510 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:32,440 And I really just want Larry Marketen to end up in Okay. See. 511 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,400 Also wouldn't mind Jeremy Grant trade to Okay. See a nice little reunion there. 512 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,359 Let's dive into the actual mail bag, and so we will begin with 513 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,079 question from Muckle, who is your rookie of the year? Why is it 514 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,960 Craig Porter Junior. I'll answer the first part of this question. Chet is 515 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,720 my rookie of the year right now. I had Wemby for the longest time. 516 00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:57,680 The efficiency is just I can't overlook it. Chet has true shooting over 517 00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:04,640 sixty five. His role is easier and that certainly matters offensively anyway, or 518 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,559 at least the thunder and the thunder also putting him in better spots to succeed. 519 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,519 This person started doing a better job of that with Wemby, but it's 520 00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:14,799 still not there on offense, and the efficiency is just too much to overlook. 521 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,480 So I think it's Chet. Wemby's probably still second now. Craig Porter 522 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,240 Junior. I don't know where he'll end up in this discussion. I don't 523 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:27,240 expect him to register in the Rookie of the Year discussion. He is the 524 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:31,039 best rookie though that probably nobody is talking about, and you would even need 525 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160 to, you know, when you want to get We'll get into what I 526 00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,319 like about him in a second. When you're even kind of trying to consider 527 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,200 will he could he make in all rookie team. There's a few things just 528 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,319 depending year. He's only made twenty two appearances for under fourger minutes, so 529 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,440 I don't know if he's gonna have the sample. He's also on a two 530 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,720 way contract and so you're gonna need to convert him from to necessarily really play 531 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,079 enough. I would believe to register in that discussion, and those are things 532 00:32:54,279 --> 00:33:00,960 holding him back. However, to get someone who's on dress and having this 533 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,640 much of an impact in part because of injuries, but just in general from 534 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,599 what you've seen of him, there's a peskiness to him defensively, especially when 535 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:14,440 he's guarding secondary guys. He can really he'll break up plays away from the 536 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,480 ball as well. He's a stellar rebounder for his size and we'll hit the 537 00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:22,519 glass there, and that defensive energy is important. It makes you plug and 538 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,599 play. On offense, he is a little bit less plug and play in 539 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,759 the sense that I think he's a pretty good passer. He's not making any 540 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,839 complicated passes, but he's going to make the right passes and he's not going 541 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,720 to turn the ball over. Tony, he's turning the ball over on fewer 542 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:42,240 than three percent of his drives. Right now, there's only one other player 543 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,519 who has an assist rate north of twelve with a turnover rate below three on 544 00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:49,640 one hundred and more drives this year. That's Peyton Pritchard. So it's not 545 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,079 like Star Company. We're talking about pretty low volume guys overall, but taking 546 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,559 care of the ball, making good decisions when he's in the lane. But 547 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,079 when you look at his actual score, offense is where it feels like he 548 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,559 can be most valuable, or at least that's what most that's what is most 549 00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,079 effective for him when he is managing the game. He just has this way 550 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:16,320 of wriggling into the lane and around defenses and sort of probing them. And 551 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,440 he like he's a threat to score from a bunch of levels. I just 552 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,800 a bunch of levels. There's not a bunch of levels. He's a threat 553 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,960 to score for multiple levels. He's hitting forty eight point six percent of his 554 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,119 pull up twos, but he's also kind of shown you that he can hit. 555 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,800 It's not just dribbling you into these pull up twos. Shooting eight to 556 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,320 fourteen on turnaround jumpers, and he's also nine to fifteen on step back jumpers, 557 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,400 and so there are levels to his levels of scoring. When you're looking 558 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,119 at the jumper types that he can get away with, he's not taking a 559 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:52,039 lot of just off ball looks. He can move around without the ball fairly 560 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,119 well. But only one point five percent of his shot attempts have come and 561 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,280 catching shoots right now. That speaks to how the Cavs are using him, 562 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,960 what they're turning tow him for, which is just offensive game management. And 563 00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:05,199 so he's gonna have the ball in his hands a lot of the time when 564 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,559 he's taking the court, but that does complicate the scalability of does he need 565 00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:15,440 to be can he play alongside like another two ball dominant type guys, or 566 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:19,239 is he gonna need to be someone who strictly leads second units. I just 567 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,639 think you look at the way he plays and there's just this like steadiness to 568 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,800 him that will give your offense an equilibrium while also not sacrificing anything on the 569 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,960 defensive end. This feels like someone who could stick. Feels like someone that 570 00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:36,039 the Cavs might need to figure out how to convert, especially if you know 571 00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,480 injuries continue to dampen them. With Darius Garland dealing with the broken jaw, 572 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,159 orhy Ribo is not with the team right now while he's dealing with his mental 573 00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:44,719 health, and it seems like they will either buy him out or create his 574 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,840 contract at some point. Donovan Mitchell's missed a couple of games. He is 575 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,239 back, though you do have karas Avert there. This this this could be 576 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,320 someone that becomes more valuable to them depending on if this team makes a trade 577 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,719 where if they use Karraslvert's salary to do something else that makes Craig Porter Junior 578 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:04,000 a lot more important even if both Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland or are healthy. 579 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,199 But I do think he will depending on how many minutes he plays, 580 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,079 this will be someone who might be worth some just all rookie type consideration. 581 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,719 And he's not looking the year material right now, but this was a fantastic 582 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,800 find yo getting They really I'm gonna say they got three great fines leading into 583 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,239 this year. Max Strews has just been fantastic. Where's just not the shooting 584 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,800 and the volume, it's the stuff that you can do inside the arc and 585 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,039 the playmaking for them. And then you have Craig Porter Junior, and then 586 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:34,239 sam Merril has been really good watching him because they were playing the Raptors, 587 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,039 and every time I watch him, it's just like something about his shooting form. 588 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:43,119 And I tweeted this out on New Year's Day, there's something about sam 589 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,519 Merrel's shooting for him that makes me think he holds the Papa shot record at 590 00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:50,440 dozens of David Buster Buster's locations across the Midwest. That's what I think of 591 00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:54,320 when I watch sam Merril shoot. And so they've had some really good back 592 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,920 to mid end of the rotabll. Max Strew's at the top of the rotation. 593 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,360 But they've had three good finds heading into like for this for this season. 594 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,800 So kudos to the Calves. And I think that Craig Porter drews the 595 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,079 name that you're gonna, I would think, want to learn. Maybe this 596 00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:12,880 is sort of just always played in sub twenty five games and some of that 597 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,760 Shane's gonna wear off, But that is someone who has helped the Calves like 598 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,559 he's been a necessity for the Calves, is what I would say. Whether 599 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:24,199 he remains that is a matter of course, but just like just one of 600 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,639 the guys that no one is talking nearly enough about. If you go through 601 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,079 on every single team, I still think that even Sam Merril's got some shine. 602 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,880 We know Max Druz has gotten shine. You look at Cleveland and it's 603 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:38,280 certainly Craig Porter Junior. Let's kind of stick with this rookie theme. We 604 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:45,559 had a question from rubik'scal where is it okay if you clean up Wemby's shot 605 00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,599 chart? I e eliminated his twenty foot jumper for crying out loud and strike 606 00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,800 and he passes from Jeremy Sohan would when we win Rookie of the Year. 607 00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:58,639 My answer is maybe when I after going through the exercise of doing this, 608 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,840 so I did it in a couple of sets. Ways, if you Wenby 609 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:07,480 is shooting under twenty four percent off passes from Jeremy Soewen, uh, that's 610 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:12,000 not good. So if you remove those from Wemby's total shots on the season, 611 00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,880 he will go from he's currently at fifty one point one percent on twos 612 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:21,599 to fifty five point seven percent on twos. Removing his shots off of Jeremy 613 00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:24,320 so Hamp passes, he would go from thirty one point five percent on He 614 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,440 would go to thirty one point five percent on threes, up from twenty nine 615 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,079 point nine. Not a huge difference, but it'd be nice to be above 616 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:35,320 thirty percent his true shooting again, removing all the shots he's taken off of 617 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,760 Jeremy so Hamp passes would go from fifty three point two to fifty seven point 618 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,679 nine. The league average is about fifty eight, so that's a pretty big 619 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,800 deal. That's not enough I think to have him be Rookie of the Year. 620 00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,000 I guess with the switch they made for him on defense and how I 621 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,239 really do believe he's already transcendent on defense. As bad as the spurs have 622 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,239 been for stretches and just most of this year. On defense, I think 623 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,079 Wemby's already or at least showing the makings of a generational defender, especially now 624 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:06,519 more than ever that he's their primary big. But when you have Chet at 625 00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:09,880 sixty five plus true shooting, I don't think you hovering around league average is 626 00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:15,039 enough. Now, if we remove just I'm gonna remove long mid range jumpers 627 00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:21,079 from wemby shot diet, and those are twos that are outside of fourteen feet. 628 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,719 He's taken too many of them, and he's shooting twenty nine percent on 629 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,679 them. If you remove that from the equation, his two point percentage goes 630 00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:30,559 from fifty one point one to fifty eight point five percent. His true shooting 631 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:34,760 would then climb to fifty seven point six percent. Since you're not bumping up 632 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,639 the three point shooting there, you're still gonna hover below league gaverage. The 633 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:43,599 bigger difference would come. Let's just remove those long twos from the equation and 634 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,719 all three point shot passes from Jeremy Sohan. His true shooting goes up to 635 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,400 about sixty in that regard, and then it get's interesting where it's okay, 636 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,800 a lot of these looks are still gonna be if they're not self created, 637 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,880 they're gonna be a little bit more complex than she is taking. And so 638 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,440 if you have this version of Wemby with sixty percent true shooting as opposed to 639 00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:09,079 fifty three true shooting, I think that might make him Rookie of the Year. 640 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:14,440 Now I would probably still say no, just there's a narrative base of 641 00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:19,199 this, and I actually I tend to underweight narratives or scoff at them a 642 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,840 lot of the time. But this, I think is a fair one. 643 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,800 Rookie of the Year is not about who's going to be the best rookie, 644 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,960 like who's going to be the best player overall in the years to come. 645 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,000 If you're using that as a tiebreaker because it's so infantitismally close, I get 646 00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:36,840 it. It's supposed to tell the story of this season. I do think 647 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,760 Wemby is a huge storyline for this season. But check Hongren is the second 648 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,840 best player on the second best team in the Western Conference, and maybe he's 649 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,199 the third best player depending on how you feel about Jay Dubb. He's the 650 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,800 top He's already be a top two player on what might be the best team 651 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:57,199 in the Western Conference. I certainly I think feel better at this point about 652 00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,360 Okaysee's playoff stock than Minnesota is. Just in terms of offensive questions. I 653 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,840 think they both have their own sort of voids they need to address there. 654 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,039 That's a really big deal and I think needs to factor into the Rookie of 655 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:12,400 the Year discussion. I think I will I will argue this to know when 656 00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,039 Wemby's roll is a lot harder right now, including on the defensive end. 657 00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:19,880 I firmly believe chn Holmers is a lot better in his role, and I 658 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,760 don't want to penalize him too much for just playing with superior teammates and then 659 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,079 being put in better positions to succeed because of having better teammates and a better 660 00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:34,639 rotation. I will say, look, Wemby, I wonder if experimenting with 661 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,480 the floor general reps for Jeremy Sohan not starting Trey Jones, that if probably 662 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,360 cost a Rookie of the Year round. Because Wemby's effective field goal percentage jumps 663 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,039 by ten plus points when Trey Jones is on the court, and so there 664 00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:47,800 are a lot of these things. You can't just subtract all the long twos. 665 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,920 But if you had a version of Wemby that's at sixty true shooting, 666 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,119 and again that's not totally bonkers just because Leaga average is fifty eight right now, 667 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,239 sixty is kind of the market where us to look at it and go, 668 00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:00,960 oh, that's great, but we're kind of especially for someone who shouldn't 669 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,360 there. He live inside the arc. It's not out, like, completely 670 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,280 outside the realm of possibility for a rookie of his size. I don't I 671 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,679 ultimately don't think any of the stuff I just did is enough. But if 672 00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:17,480 you give Wenby sixty true shooting on what he's doing defensively, I think that 673 00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:21,199 makes this discussion a lot more interesting to have to where right now, I 674 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,920 think you almost need to default to ched Holmgren will see if he hits a 675 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,360 rookie wall how the rest of the season goes. But the fact that he's 676 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,159 been as good as he is, and on top of that, it's for 677 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,559 a team that's as good as they are. I'm not saying he's the driving 678 00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:39,480 force, but he's a transcendent rid protector himself at this point, so I 679 00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:45,480 think he has it on lock, and it would take a real monster about 680 00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:49,280 face inefficiency from Wembat and a lot of that might not necessarily be on him. 681 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,880 He could change some of the shots he's taking the spurs. I think 682 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,880 I've done a better job of putting him in spots on the floor, regardless 683 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,719 of who else is on the court with him lately, to get his looks 684 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,639 up. And I appreciate the spare experimentation. I think self discovery is really 685 00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:04,920 important, and with Wenby, you're still trying to figure it out, whereas 686 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,119 with Jeremy Sohan and the floor general experiment, you just kind of know that's 687 00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:14,880 not going to settle into a productive normal. But I like check Homan is 688 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,119 just so much closer with finished product right now. It would be really tough 689 00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:20,800 for Wemby, I think, to come back and see his Rookie of the 690 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,119 Year, which is a nothing to say when we have more than half the 691 00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:25,440 season to go. Maybe it's premature. There's still one and two for me 692 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,199 if you care about third. I think I think Hami hawkas junior has worked 693 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,679 his way into that discussion. I think you could make cases for Derek Lively, 694 00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:40,559 Brandon Pejemski might be working his way into that. Brendan Miller not so 695 00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:45,079 much. Certainly, in all rookie case Scout Henderson, I think he's gonna 696 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:46,760 like Economy anders Way in this discussion. He's been playing a lot better of 697 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,519 late, so I think third right now is it comfortably Jimi Hawk as it's 698 00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:57,960 probably it's close like there, I think third would be the fascinating discussion, 699 00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:01,199 But right now I'm still more inclined to go with Hanai Hawks than anyone. 700 00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:04,719 I'm trying to think of off the cuff off rip because I wasn't thinking about 701 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,599 number three and Rookie of the Year if I had really forgotten anyone, and 702 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:13,519 I don't think that I did there, So fascinating question from Rubik scal next 703 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:20,559 question will come from Drizzy Watts ass what is the ideal player profile for a 704 00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:23,760 backcourt partner of Tyrese Maxi in the playoffs? We had some answers in the 705 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,199 discords, so I'll address those about the actual players. It's someone who could 706 00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:32,000 defend the point of attack, no matter that player's size or physiological profile. 707 00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:37,920 I would say, unless you're going to get a specific player, I probably 708 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,840 want that partner for Maxi to be six or five or bigger, maybe even 709 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,440 taller than six to five. But sixty five at the least. I think 710 00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:47,960 ball skills would be a plus here because the Sixers could use another creator, 711 00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,320 especially in lineups that might not have MAXI. But the defense is probably more 712 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,320 important. And then you just want someone who can reasonably space the floor, 713 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,519 maybe attack in open space, going downhill off the catch, what have you. 714 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,760 Because when we were talking ideal, it's okay the answers we got were 715 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,519 Paul George or Jimmy Butler. That's the answer. But what you're trying to 716 00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:15,159 make concessions and be more realistic of players who actually exist too. But I 717 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,280 think if you had to pick one, I'm gonna skew more towards the defensive 718 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,119 end of the spectrum rather than this player needs to be two way or it 719 00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:24,199 needs to provide x amount of creation. You don't want him to be a 720 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,679 spacing viability. But if you went with a defense first non star type, 721 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,880 obviously smaller end of the spectrum, probably at like a lou Dort like someone 722 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,119 like that, where they'll get up threes at least and we'll attack in open 723 00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:42,679 space off the dribble. When you're looking at kind of offense first as a 724 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,800 non star, maybe Devin vessel, and he probably provides enough defense to where 725 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,480 he's not no defense, and so that would be kind of a fascinating proposition 726 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,639 if you're looking for and I feel like Devin Sell might be too high end. 727 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,079 The complete like this is a role player because we don't want to focus 728 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,400 just on stars, but it's the most complete role player type. CACP feels 729 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,800 like a good one. That dude just goes there and wins and just does 730 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,079 his job. And I don't know if he'll ever make all defense. I 731 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:08,800 think he's slipped there for kind of a hot start there and he can go 732 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,599 through lows offensively, but that's just someone who will fill a ton of gaps. 733 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,039 And so CACP is sort of the non star type if you're looking now, 734 00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:20,760 if we want to get super ambitious, even a non star type and 735 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,840 this is Derek White would be a really good fit next to Again, not 736 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,440 someone who's gonna necessarily fit the size criteria that I put. Do you want 737 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,000 a little bit more out of him from an offensive scoring perspective, perhaps, 738 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:36,480 but like he's a good enough passer and just a you know, a palacious 739 00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:42,599 defender that would be perfect obviously not gettable, And that's That's where I get 740 00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,159 caught up in this because someone like Devin Booker makes a lot of sense next 741 00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,840 to Maxie. I think not so much lately, but he's improved enough defensively 742 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,519 over the years to where I think you look at a Maxi Booker backcourt and 743 00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:57,800 it's okay, like we're comfortable with it. But like Paul George Jimmy Butler, 744 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,400 even though those guys aren't necessarily considered, they could play to what are 745 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,480 positions at this point you want to be realistic about it, and it's well, 746 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,079 who's ideal and then might be potentially gettable here. That's why I kind 747 00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:14,320 of thought about Fort. I thought about Dort. I thought about lou Dort 748 00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:16,000 just because I don't think he's untouchable in Okay. See, I do think 749 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,639 he's more important to them than Josh Gidty if anybody cares about that. So 750 00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:24,360 I think this is the name I will said on is Michal Bridges of someone 751 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,440 who I could see becoming available. Is very high end. It's not super 752 00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:32,559 duper high end, but he's high end enough. I like, does he 753 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,039 give you? I think he gives you everything that you need. He probably 754 00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,320 checks all the boxes without being the best solution possible to where it might be 755 00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,920 someone who is a master of nothing almost on offense. But I mean you 756 00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:49,320 just look at and that's that's even too cruel. But it's now you slide 757 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,559 him into a role where he's your third highest usage player, but he also 758 00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,679 at times might be your second depending on sort of the matchup, where at 759 00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,559 least he doesn't have multiple perimeter players in front of him. In Phoenix, 760 00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:02,639 it was okay, we very much have Chris Paul and Devin Booker. Here. 761 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,679 I know you have Joel Embiid, but there's just something a little bit 762 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,320 more sensible about what it's Maxie and Embiid. It's just the one to three 763 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,480 five almost type of balance there. You know what he's gonna give you defensively, 764 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,920 can just go check the opponent's best player, especially if his offensive usage 765 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,519 doesn't need to be too complicated or too high. Gives you though, I 766 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:25,760 think enough playmaking or just enough ball skills to where if you need to run 767 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,760 him and embedd without Maxie or you're looking for someone to do you don't ever 768 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,679 want to separate, well not ever separate, but you want em beat on 769 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,159 the court with Maxie Moore you want to bench both those at the same time. 770 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,920 I think mckil bridge is someone who could slide in there. That would 771 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,960 be the name for Hilly, which is ironic because they could have had kel 772 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,159 Bridges. But that's the guy where it's okay, what is Brooklyn doing. 773 00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:47,159 I don't think they're gonna trade him, but he's certainly more available than a 774 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,239 Jimmy Butler. The answer is not ZII or Smith. Unfortunately. I would 775 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,920 argue mckel bridges is more likely to become available this season than Derek White. 776 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,960 And so that's why I sort of said ale on that that's a great question. 777 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,719 Let's stick with the sixers though, because I think that we have another 778 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:07,239 question. It was from Rubikscal. I'm gonna do just two questions per per 779 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,440 person. By the way, well cap A max on that if you want 780 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,360 to join in on these mailbanks discord, you can email us as well, 781 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,880 Hardwood Knox at gmail dot com. I will get to it. You can 782 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,480 message me on all the other social media accounts, and I do sometimes send 783 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,400 out Twitter solicitations because I want to cater to everybody would join our discord be 784 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,000 a part of that community. We have a lot of ogs who are really 785 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:29,480 driving discussions. There's a bunch of you in there that talk all the time. 786 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,199 I like seeing it when I'm not participating in the discussion, I like 787 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,639 reading what you guys have to say. So join discord our discord liasts in 788 00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:39,719 the podcast and you tube description. If you're not about Discord, change that 789 00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,159 do it. Just try it. You don't have to be in there all 790 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,920 the time. Just join our discord Police Tobias Harris, though, question from 791 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:52,800 Rubikscal is Tobias Harris going to get any love from anyone? He is shooting 792 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,039 fifty one forty seven to ninety one for seventeen point six rebounds, three assists, 793 00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:57,880 and to steal, and he ranks right up near on the top of 794 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,119 the Sixers and most hustle stats. Those balls recover deflections and threes contested. 795 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:07,519 So look here I want to in defense of Sixers fans and people who overlook 796 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:12,000 Tobias Harris, here's the one thing that doesn't count as a defense anymore, 797 00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:16,760 the Tobias Harris contract. For what the Sixers were at. It's just I 798 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,400 get why you give the five Did they they chose wrong? If it was 799 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,159 an either er thing between Jimmy and Tobias Harris. They were good enough where 800 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,800 had aspirations that were high enough to say we're gonna pay Tobias Harris. It 801 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,519 doesn't matter if he's our third or fourth best player. That's just the cost 802 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:35,320 of doing business at what you thought was a championship level. I still get 803 00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:38,000 that his pay grade was too high relative to the value he's providing, even 804 00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:42,840 as the pecking order changed. Now he's number three in it. He's taking 805 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,639 up less than twenty nine percent of your salary cap this year. It's an 806 00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:49,280 expiring contract. I know the number thirty nine point three million looks like a 807 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,199 lot. I get it, But like it's an inspiring contract. Now, 808 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,719 that's that is not I want to make clear the reason that he should be. 809 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,960 Like, if he's not receiving enough recognition, and it's because people say 810 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,320 he's overpaid, that's a shitty reason. It's not a valid reason. Quite 811 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:07,519 frankly, a more valid reason would be he just seems to be non existent, 812 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:13,280 too bad to losing his superpowers on offense for too long. He starts 813 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,719 off really hot this season, goes through some cold stretches, seems like he's 814 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:21,400 perking up a little bit from what I've seen lately, that's good. He 815 00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:24,159 needs to be more consistent, and part of that might be trying to find 816 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,519 the balance of looking at everything he needs to do for the Sixers on both 817 00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:31,440 ends, where he's kind of toggling between these different existences and you can call 818 00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,360 him the third option, but at times it's really like, well is it 819 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,880 not? You have? You know now that Nicholas Patuma is there as sort 820 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,039 of this connective tissue, but there's also Dmney Melton and then Kellyubrid Junior we 821 00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:45,559 know is not going to pass. He's toggling between a bunch of different existences 822 00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:49,000 and I think that does complicate his offensive role. He deserves more credit though 823 00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:52,000 for doing it and doing it well for long stretches. The fact that he's 824 00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:55,000 dropped below thirty five percent on Spot Up threes for a year could be another 825 00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:59,840 reason why he's going overlooked. Actually think he mostly needs to be given more 826 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:01,760 credit. This is the thing that I think is underrated for his defense, 827 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,000 where it's not lockdown, but it's oh, he's gonna I have watched him 828 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,760 or have seen that he this season. I've seen him defend that he has 829 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:15,400 defending karl Anthy Towns, Pascal Siakam, Scottie Barnes, Jason Tatum. Like, 830 00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:17,920 that's kind of the positional spectrum he's dealing with where if you're a wing 831 00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,199 combo forward, big and to have to tackle that. And there's sometimes been 832 00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:27,559 some smaller players that he'll find himself onto, not in super not in like 833 00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,360 super duper high volume, I want to be clear, but like the prime 834 00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:35,960 the primary reps for sure, those are the guys that he is going up 835 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,199 against that is that's no small shakes, and he holds his own a lot 836 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,840 of those times. It isn't always pretty, but like and you have Joel 837 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,519 Embiid is the backbone of your defense, but when you don't have the option 838 00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:49,239 of, like, who else are you throwing on those dudes because you don't 839 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,599 have this size even you can see that again, Deantey Mountain is great. 840 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,480 He might struggle against the Kyle Kuzma or Denny Avia or DeAndre Hunter just because 841 00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,320 of the size difference, and they're like, no, Tobias is gonna those 842 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,480 guys. And there's gonna be certain nights where he's to deal with some of 843 00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:06,440 the more mobile sort of forward types where it's oh, when when Obi Toppin 844 00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,039 was a stable the Pacers. You're gonna watch him on him or Patrick Williams 845 00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:12,800 or we've seen him. I seem to have vent Paleoll ban Caro. It's 846 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,639 just he's all over the place, and I have named when you get the 847 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,800 ban Caro and Siakham and Kuzma, kind of feels like you're dealing with the 848 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,920 same market type of player. Carl Anthony Towns doesn't fit that mold. Scottie 849 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,599 Barnes doesn't fit that mold. Evan Maldgley, that doesn't fit that mold. 850 00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:30,239 And so I think he deserves a lot of credit for what he does on 851 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,280 the defensive end. The path to him. What I do appreciate about him 852 00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:37,599 on offense is, for the most part, we need to value the zero 853 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:43,400 to one dribble decision making, i'll call it where that renders him such an 854 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,679 easy fit on almost any team. Is someone who maybe not all the time, 855 00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:51,679 but he's okay making those quick decisions to pass, shoot, drive, 856 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,719 attack whatever. And to have that in someone who can also play as well 857 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,199 defensively as he is in the size it's six's eight six' nine that 858 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,920 he is. That's a big deal, and at the same time, he 859 00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:08,280 still does have that mismatch attacking element to his game. He's shooting fifty two 860 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,360 point seven percent on sixty plus turnaround jumpers this season. That's the that's the 861 00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:16,679 stat I decided to cite it on Earth. Here. He can punish dudes 862 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,960 in the post on those turnarounds, maybe you don't always want him taking those. 863 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,320 That's like, this is someone who is just can wear a bunch of 864 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:30,360 different hats and not look exceedingly overtaxed. Now he goes through those valleys where 865 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,559 it does look like he's maybe not overtaxed, but just sort of doesn't know 866 00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:36,719 what he's doing or loses himself within the offense. And I would like to 867 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,159 see the three point volume come up for him, especially given the dynamics of 868 00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:44,880 this team. But Tobias Harris is probably one of the most underrated players in 869 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,280 the NBA at this point. I think he is can be maddening from a 870 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,320 perspective if you need him to be your third best player every single night and 871 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,599 to help you win playoff series. Have we ever seen him reach the defensive 872 00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:59,760 level Andrew Wiggins did during the twenty twenty two postseason look, he's come a 873 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,679 lot close to than not Wiggins handled some more point of attack assignments there. 874 00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,599 You can't trust the Bias Harris to be that player. Frankly, you can't 875 00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:08,119 trust Andrew Wiggins to be that player. As we're seeing now. I do 876 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,639 think he's probably one of the more underrated players in the NBA. And I'll 877 00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:15,559 be so interested to see maybe he gets traded this year if the Sixer are 878 00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,679 looking to take back big money. But if you're Sixers fans, but who 879 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,480 was supposed to retire at the end of this season, and it's just like, 880 00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:24,119 you know, don't start talking about patom and and Roco and just like, 881 00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:28,039 oh, we have enough like to get by without Tobias Harris. Just 882 00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:30,679 be careful what you wish for there. It's different if you're bringing someone else 883 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,559 in. He's part of a trade, but he's gonna hit free agency. 884 00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:36,920 He'll have his suitors. If you're still gona be paying him thirty plus million 885 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,280 dollars a year, is that how you want to use that salary slot. 886 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,719 It's a discussion, But be careful what you wish for here, because I 887 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,559 do think he is one of the more underrated players in the League at this 888 00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:50,079 point. Next question, we'll hold that for the answer that it's about me 889 00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:52,639 personally. I love when people care enough to ask about myself. I do 890 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:58,320 appreciate that unbiased Pistons fan, when will the suffering end? But in all 891 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,159 seriousness, who's going to get snubbed from the All NBA teams? Because it's 892 00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:05,639 positionless first and foremost, congrats and biased pissings fan. The suffering has come 893 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,400 to an end. In a matter of speaking, you've picked up the w 894 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:13,239 Now you just get back to the point of being frustrated by what Troy River 895 00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:15,840 is doing or not doing, what Tom Gorres might be saying, or what 896 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,360 Monty Williams is doing. Is Jane maybe being too marginalized? What the fuck 897 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,559 is going on with Ursara Thompson right now? YadA, YadA, YadA. 898 00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:24,800 But that form of suffering has come to an end. This is a great 899 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,320 question about the All NBA teams right now. I think what's gonna end up 900 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,000 happening. Biggs will wind up getting the short shrift here. And I'm not 901 00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:37,000 gonna say this player at or these two players that it's gonna come at their 902 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,519 expense. And one I think there will be some players who benefit because of 903 00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:44,039 the game's minimum looking at that sixty five game threshold. So while I could 904 00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:49,079 see it going positionless is going to hurt a some bonus or a Randall if 905 00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:52,599 those two dudes hit the game's minimum, I'm looking at Randall specifically on top 906 00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:55,199 of just a total minutes that ends up helping them. The two players that 907 00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:01,000 I have singled out would be just as I could see it like it hurting 908 00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:07,519 them is Anthony Davis and Rudy Gobert. And now Davis, you might get 909 00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:09,760 into a game's minimum conundrum at this point, but I think you just start 910 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,800 to look at Rudy Gobert specifically, when you had the center spot, he 911 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,079 is I don't want to say prob I don't want to I hate talking in 912 00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:19,920 absolute terms, but I think he might be my runaway Defensive Player of the 913 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,159 Year right now. And so if he was going you win that award, 914 00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:27,119 he just automatically you get third team All NBA billing at that point is what 915 00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:29,800 you should when you had the center spot that doesn't exist. And so I 916 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,119 would argue, if you believe he's gonna win Defensive Player of the Year, 917 00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:36,119 he is the player that this is going to hurt the most. After that, 918 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,039 I could see it being a in Anthony Davis type would be my second 919 00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:44,320 biggest pick, and maybe just a more legitimate pick because Davis does have that 920 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,239 all around impact. He's just a better offensive play finisher and has some more 921 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:52,360 self starting elements to his offensive game than Gobert. But when you start to 922 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,920 get into the guards and wings equations of this, and so there are just 923 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,119 fifteen spots, and let me just I haven't I don't have this list. 924 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,960 Let me just all rip see how many All NBA locks we could say we 925 00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:08,039 can name. So there are fifteen spots. We know that I'm already this 926 00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:12,000 is so I'm starting to name fifteen right off the bat, and now I 927 00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:15,480 just can't name any because there's so many balls going in my mind. You 928 00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:19,719 have, in no particular order. You have Luca, you have Shay, 929 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,159 you have Jokic, you have Embiid, you have I think Tatum's gonna make 930 00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:27,039 an All NBA team, even though his some of his individual numbers have been 931 00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:30,760 underwhelming. I would say one of, if not both of, Kevin Duran 932 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,239 and Lebron James are locks. And so we're at six or seven right there. 933 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,239 Who else am I forgetting? Is Steph gonna work? Like? Steph 934 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,280 feels like he might be a lock at that point. That's eight, Like 935 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,159 we're Daron Fox, is he'd be a lock for me at this point? 936 00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:47,280 That's nine. And then you're gonna have like, now you're getting into the 937 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,079 discussions of well, who else belongs in there? Did I forget anybody else 938 00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:55,760 that needs to be in this like actual discussion? I'm sure that I did 939 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,639 just by doing that off rip. But you have the I'll call them the 940 00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:02,079 more to batibles, and I'll use some of these guys an example where it's, 941 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,360 you know, a Trey Young, a Jaylen Brunson. Are they gonna 942 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,320 be on everyone's all in the A teams? No, but the agency they 943 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,559 have over the offense might help them curry favor over in Anthony Davis, certainly 944 00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:19,280 over a Rudy Gobert. So you have those names to watch, and then 945 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,960 also just it does feel like people might be gravitating more towards the wing types, 946 00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:28,039 especially if they've elevated their playmaking. Does Scottie Barnes get more consideration than 947 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,239 a Rudy Gobert in this discussion? Like that is something that could actually happen 948 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,400 as bad as the the Toronto Raptors may have been. We haven't even mentioned 949 00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:38,960 like it's Quhi gonna play it, like if Kuhi plays in enough games, 950 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,519 he will work his way into that. And so I do think the game's 951 00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:45,599 minimum might take care of some of the awkwardness. But I can get to 952 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,280 just off the cuff of having ten locks and that this is nothing about well 953 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,760 will Devin Booker end up with enough playing time? Where does James Harden and 954 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,360 Paul George end up in this discussion? And so I'm just sort of again, 955 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,679 I'm trying to focus strictly on the line in my mind, and Jimmy 956 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,000 Butler is if he plays enough game will probably be a lock. I think 957 01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,960 Bam will be another player. His case is always just so weird. This 958 01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:09,480 season it felt like he might have had his strongest case, and so I'll 959 01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:14,840 loop him into there. Those three players Bam, A d and Go Bear 960 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,440 is just the answer. I just don't know if it's a fair one, 961 01:00:16,519 --> 01:00:22,440 because he is the one position player and you could like even like just because 962 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,280 these defensive Player of the Year, he's guaranteed to get that third center spot. 963 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,800 Isn't necessarily fair. You could argue that type of thinking might impede the 964 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,800 case of a Davis or a bam Adebayo because they're eligible at probably powerful what 965 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,320 end center in past years. But those are the three players I would say, 966 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:45,159 bam Anthony Davis, and Gobar. I would say right now, at 967 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,880 least two, if not all, three of those guys are going to be 968 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,679 left off an All NBA team. And I think it in large part it 969 01:00:50,679 --> 01:00:52,559 will be not because they don't deserve it, and not because the players would 970 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:55,599 get elected to it don't deserve it. But it's just gonna be more wing 971 01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:59,679 and guard heavy. I didnt even mentioned Dondvan Mitchell at this point, so 972 01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:04,760 it's just gonna be so guard heavy that I think I think that ends up 973 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,679 hurting all three of those dudes. Great question, though, we'll have to 974 01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:12,840 see where it kind of shakes out by the end of the year. Our 975 01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:17,880 next question comes from oh man, this was to I gave this so much 976 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,800 thought, dark Wing Duck, A friend of the pop ass or says friend 977 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,719 of the podcast Tony Jones thinks the last person to produce in the league like 978 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:29,320 Larry market In is prime. Klay Thompson, do you have a better comp. 979 01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:31,960 I see where Tony's going with this, just because of how much of 980 01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:37,960 a play finisher it Larry Marketen is mostly from the perimeter, but the stuff 981 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:42,400 that stands out aside from the size and the positional differences and just you know, 982 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,360 when you're looking at offense, I get the comp to play a little 983 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,880 bit, but not so much on defense. There's not as much chaotic movement 984 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,559 to the way Marketing is scoring on offense as there was with Thompson. And 985 01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:55,480 he's also like, that's someone you're gonna trust to be inside the arc a 986 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,199 little bit more than sixty percent on twos. Like, holy fucking shit, 987 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,800 Larry market there, and this is just the second straight year they's averaging over 988 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,880 twenty points while banging in more than fifty eight percent of his twos and more 989 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,519 than thirty seven percent of his threes. The list of players that have multiple 990 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:14,559 seasons of that are basically like Lebron James and then the player who I'm actually 991 01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:16,639 gonna compare him to, And I think this is maybe it's too spicy, 992 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,960 but I honestly think this is the one. And it's in part it's team 993 01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:24,599 context dependent for sure, and it's not perfect but I also think there's the 994 01:02:24,719 --> 01:02:30,480 size element of it. It's probably and I'll say the first two years, 995 01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:35,800 but Warriors era Kevin Durant to focus on another like person who's suited up for 996 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,119 the dubs. Just when you look at twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, those 997 01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:44,440 first two years specifically, Kevin Rant was doing a lot of just he's still 998 01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:46,000 he did more on ball work than market I want to make that clear. 999 01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:50,760 Over ninety percent of Marketing three pointers are coming off asists. Kevin Rant, 1000 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,079 Like that share was never that high, even in Golden State, but there 1001 01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:57,679 was a point where more of his baskets were basically coming off of assists than 1002 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,960 self created. And it wasn't even though he was in the Warrior system. 1003 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:06,960 It wasn't off of this super complicated like running around momentum. It was the 1004 01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:12,440 byproduct of he is one of the most lethal shooters and finishers just from every 1005 01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:15,280 level. Marketing doesn't necessarily have that same mid range, doesn't like that's a 1006 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,719 hot day, isn't going to have that same you know, dribble pull up 1007 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,920 to his game from the mid range. But like it just reminds me of 1008 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,599 that a little bit where it's someone who is not strictly a prey play finisher. 1009 01:03:25,679 --> 01:03:30,960 And I do think marketing definitely comes closer to actualizing strictly a play finisher's 1010 01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:35,360 role than Kevin Durant would, but just in terms of, you know, 1011 01:03:35,559 --> 01:03:37,960 they can do more, but the way they're being used or the way that 1012 01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:43,119 they've been optimized and are most efficient, they're not doing the heaviest lifting, 1013 01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:47,039 and that just reminds me with that efficiency with his role, of how Kevin 1014 01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:50,719 Durant was used on the Warriors at time. I think, if I really 1015 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,360 had to say it, it's sort of this and it's two players who are 1016 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:59,159 better than him, but it's like this meld of Warriors era Kevin Durant and 1017 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,880 then the best version of Anthony Davis that the Lakers have seen, probably Bubble 1018 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,760 Anthony Davis is it. And I'm looking strictly at offense here, not defense. 1019 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,079 I hope that's fair, not too spicy, or at least I hope 1020 01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:12,719 dark Wing Duck or anybody else who's listening to this you see where I'm coming 1021 01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:16,480 from at It's a fascinating question to really think about, though, just because 1022 01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:20,280 of how good market has been over this these last two these last two seasons 1023 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:26,039 and we have three more questions, and two of them come from Rome eighty 1024 01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:30,039 one to eighty Let's start with I feel like I might have answered this one 1025 01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:31,920 already, but I'll answered again. Is there a player archetype that you have 1026 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,840 a saft spot for? Is there a player type you have a disproportional dislike 1027 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:40,320 for league guard types with size who always look like they could be something more? 1028 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,880 Are my soft spots here? And I think I have others where it's 1029 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,159 sort of like the Connectors where I love I love a good Derek White, 1030 01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:50,840 I love a good Nicholas Patoum. Anyone who could do a no dip three 1031 01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:56,000 is basically someone I'm gonna love. But when I look at and to use 1032 01:04:56,039 --> 01:05:00,119 an example of some of my successes and failures, although I'll never admit to 1033 01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:02,679 one of these failures, but like why I was so enamored with franknil Akina 1034 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,480 is there was a smoothness to his game and he had some size at six 1035 01:05:05,559 --> 01:05:10,719 ' five, and it was never it never came together, the finishing package, 1036 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,599 the shooting package, the offensive motor. It just says you have to 1037 01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:15,239 come together. Even though he's the greatest player of all time, and so 1038 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,880 I look at him and I'm just fully gonna believe that because he has that 1039 01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:20,800 size, that he could be more. It's also why I was so enamored 1040 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,079 heading out of the draft. Now that I know they're gonna be this good, 1041 01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:26,920 I want to make clear, no, but Shay givigch Alexander and Tyrese 1042 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,840 Haliburton, and that's again, like, oh, top ten top ten players 1043 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,400 right now, all mel and Tyres Albert and all NBA lock. I didn't 1044 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,840 mention him in that little brief exercise we did. That's what's so hard about 1045 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:42,119 doing an off rip. So I'm a sucker for those types of players. 1046 01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:45,079 And if there's like more of a reclamation project, so I'm not just riding 1047 01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:50,199 the coattails of somebody who is, you know, already a superstar or an 1048 01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:55,199 All NBA type player. The Frank Neil Akina archetype is just what I'm gonna 1049 01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:58,320 be drawn to. I'm trying to think of if there's anybody else in the 1050 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:03,519 league right now that might fit this mold a little bit more. Emmanuel Quickly 1051 01:06:03,639 --> 01:06:06,159 is too small, but I would be a sucker for like that, where 1052 01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:09,719 it's like he's not a good enough passer, but it's like he does so 1053 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,800 many other things that that might be more in the mold of the Frank Neil 1054 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,159 Keinez like that would still be a soft spot. And why I have a 1055 01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:18,519 sauce spot four IQ not just because I've you know, watched him so long 1056 01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:23,599 while he was on on the mix Kiante George, that would be I was 1057 01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:25,679 pretty high on him coming out of the draft. I don't know if he 1058 01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:28,119 fits that kind of size thing. What does he has? He listed it 1059 01:06:29,519 --> 01:06:31,880 six' four so including six that's six four sixty five type where they're bigger 1060 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,239 than the than the Steph Currs, even like Kntavious Colo Pope. I remember 1061 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,360 back in the day and this was I was wrong on this. I'm gonna 1062 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,599 use this as part of my he's more of the Connector type. Now I'm 1063 01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:45,480 gonna use this as a failure. But when he was with Detroit, why 1064 01:06:45,519 --> 01:06:48,400 I thought he was worth a MAX deal was because I thought he could be 1065 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:54,800 like a one C creator type and so like clearly that didn't pan out. 1066 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,400 It was why I was so enamored with Josh Jackson when he was coming into 1067 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,679 the draft. I was so enamored with Stanley Johnson for so long, and 1068 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,519 so it's those and those were kind of wings, but it's a lead, 1069 01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:10,760 not quite league guarter wing type. So I think can be that or at 1070 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:15,800 least offer more than just their specialty or connector production. When it comes to 1071 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:21,400 people that I maybe just player types I discriminate against, perhaps unfairly. I 1072 01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:24,960 think a lot of people are just gonna land on the peer two. I 1073 01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:28,800 land on the peer four. Who can't slide down to the three or get 1074 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,719 by at the five, especially if they're ball dominate, and so that they're 1075 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:38,039 not then totally scalable on offense to looking at what they what they do. 1076 01:07:38,159 --> 01:07:40,760 And so I've held out hope for John Collins for so long, but I 1077 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,159 recognize that he kind of fall I call them infinitely scalable or scalable as fuck, 1078 01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:46,679 whatever I said about him, there's still an element to that a little 1079 01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:50,360 bit on offense. But he is a peer four. I think that's you 1080 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,320 know, you look at Julius Randall, he is a peer four, and 1081 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:59,320 it's I he's probably become underrated. His his legacy is gonna be legacy for 1082 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,320 Julie Rendal. We're to look back on his career or at least this window 1083 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,840 of time of his career, and that's gonna be a fascinating discussion to have 1084 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:09,119 at some point, especially if he makes a third All NBA team or third 1085 01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:12,239 All Star Game end or third All Star Game. But like, you can't 1086 01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:14,840 play Randall at the five, I guess some teams technically could. You're definitely 1087 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,920 not gonna play him at the three because he can't card that spot or even 1088 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,359 come close to it. It's just those pure four types. I thought Kegan 1089 01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:24,319 Murray was gonna end up being that by the way, talk about being wrong, 1090 01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:27,279 he certainly leveled that up defensively, And when I refer to peer fours, 1091 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,039 it does more more so refer to defensive conundrums. And then you can 1092 01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:35,239 endear yourself to me still if you're John Collins by being plug and play on 1093 01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:39,840 the offensive end. But if you're you know it's gonna be you have to 1094 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,800 work a lot harder unfair or not for me to fall in love with a 1095 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,560 Julius Randall type. And he certainly, you know, he's wedged his way 1096 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,119 into my heart at points. But like just sort of those those pure fours, 1097 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:53,680 I can't I can't bring myself even it's some people might view Pascal Siakam 1098 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,399 in this vein. I think he gives you more switchability on defense and that 1099 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,920 there are teams that could get you away or get away with playing him as 1100 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,000 as the five. And know everyone knows how high I'm on VM Mobley, 1101 01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:06,199 he's not up here for if arguably he's been miscast as a four, he 1102 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:10,279 should be a three or five. That's what That's what Evan Mobley should be. 1103 01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:13,399 And so those are sort of the that's probably the player of archetypes I 1104 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,600 get a little like unhappy with, and I not unhappy, but those are 1105 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,640 ones that I might hold to a higher bar just I'm not about them. 1106 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:27,760 And then there's also something too, even if just because they're switchable, like 1107 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:33,520 the players that I just view as replicable at what could be a lower cut 1108 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:38,439 rate, whereas I'm never gonna be as high on a Grant Williams or a 1109 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,680 Miles Bridges on the court that I am going to on a lot of like 1110 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,760 other of these players who I think can either do more or can be similar 1111 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:53,680 players could be approximated for for cheaper. Next question from Rome asks where are 1112 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,119 we here? Oh? If Cleveland doesn't achieve what they want this year. 1113 01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,039 They're waiting for Toronto to get Donovan Mitchell. The Raptors may not want a 1114 01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:00,680 guy who could leave. But I don't like the Mitchell fit in New York 1115 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:05,000 at all. Toronto intrigues me. Though I am with you on the Mitchell 1116 01:10:05,039 --> 01:10:08,600 fit in New York. I still think you have Melan Brunson now, and 1117 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,479 so there's a redundancy to getting another small guard there if you wanted to go 1118 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,880 that route. I'm to harp on the Knicks for a second. You should 1119 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:20,479 probably focus on like Dejontay Murray is the move now because you don't have Emmanuel 1120 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,279 Quickly or RJ Barrett there. So don't necessarily love that fit. But he's 1121 01:10:25,279 --> 01:10:29,880 done enough on offense, I don't. I love it even less with having 1122 01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:33,279 Randall and Brunson on the team. And then also you will have sacrificed a 1123 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:39,640 probably too much three point volume going from IQ to Ojiananobi and then it's whoever 1124 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:44,000 you're gonna move now to de Jontay Murray. Just feels like your shot profile 1125 01:10:44,039 --> 01:10:46,119 could get really messed up. There might be like a little bit too Rjit, 1126 01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:53,359 A more efficient rj enis to the shot profile Toronto with Donovan Mitchell. 1127 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,439 I don't love it now because Emmanuel Quickly is there and I think you want 1128 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,399 like you're gonna pay him, and so are you gonna invest in two of 1129 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,399 these smaller guards. I think they can play together just because of what a 1130 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,880 manual Quickly does defensively, I think he can go. I think he's a 1131 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,760 combo guard defensively. I think that helps. And the fact that he's not 1132 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,199 just this a plus passer. It allows you to work with neither him and 1133 01:11:13,239 --> 01:11:15,520 Mitchell or a plus passers until you'll get enough aggregate passing out of them. 1134 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,319 And Scottie Barnes maybe RJ Barrett if he sticks to make it work. My 1135 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:26,039 distaste here would be I don't know what the package looks like. What does 1136 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,600 Toronto have? Uh, there's a he's thirty five. I'm tired. What 1137 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,840 does the package look like like? What does Toronto have that Cleveland wants? 1138 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,880 They could restock Cleveland's draft well a little bit if you're moving Mitchell and the 1139 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,199 price to get Mitchell, I'm assuming over the summer, when he's entering the 1140 01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:48,640 final year of his contract before his player option, it won't be that high. 1141 01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:54,159 But like, what is the Cleveland's not gonna be looking to rebuild if 1142 01:11:54,199 --> 01:11:57,279 they're trading Mitchell, So it can't just be a picks thing. Who from 1143 01:11:57,359 --> 01:12:01,119 the Raptors do you want on? Like that helps the Calves? Are they 1144 01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:04,880 gonna have interest in RJ. Barrett? They might almost need to if that's 1145 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,239 the route you're gonna go here, and I don't. I don't think they're 1146 01:12:08,279 --> 01:12:13,000 going to, Uh, you're not gonna have interest even like, Okay, 1147 01:12:13,079 --> 01:12:15,640 Grady Dick maybe, and so it's Grady Dick in salary. You're not gonna 1148 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,479 throw a Yaka Perl on a roster that has Jared Allen and Evan Mobley on 1149 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,720 it. Garret tren Junior will be a free agent. I guess there's a 1150 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:26,840 sign and trade thing to be worked out there. Dennis Shooter becomes a little 1151 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,520 bit valuable in that trade, I suppose, because you are giving up Donovan 1152 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,720 Mitchell, so you're looking at the guards. Could there be like a sign 1153 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,560 in trade with Quickly involved? Probably not. I think Toronto would prefer to 1154 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,600 have Quickly at this point for what he does defensively and how much they trust 1155 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,880 Scottie Barnes. And then there's just you don't want to give up too too 1156 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,439 much in a player who's gonna hit free agency and could or probably would leave 1157 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:50,039 Toronto unless the Raptors are on Mitchell's list. I don't think the Caves trade 1158 01:12:50,079 --> 01:12:53,279 Mitchell, by the way, at least well, we're talking about the off 1159 01:12:53,319 --> 01:12:57,680 season, so that's more open for debate. It gets it just gets weird. 1160 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,840 And so we even to see Acams on the roster, that'd be really 1161 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,399 you talk about a gargantuan setup. Let's have Saka with Mobile and and Jared 1162 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,920 Allen that would need to be assigned Trake season be free agent as well. 1163 01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:11,560 I think you're probably look at it. So it needs to be picks and 1164 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:19,159 then Shrewder and Barry like it's some combination of Shrewder, Barrett Dick and Grady 1165 01:13:19,239 --> 01:13:25,119 Dick and picks, not Dick picks, just Grady Dick and picks, like 1166 01:13:25,279 --> 01:13:29,199 some sort of combination of that. And I don't know. I think Cleveland 1167 01:13:29,239 --> 01:13:32,079 can do better or for its roster, even if you like that asset play 1168 01:13:32,399 --> 01:13:34,960 by moving down to Mitchell, and that's where it gets weird. And then 1169 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,720 I honestly just don't know. So if your core let's say that Mitchell stays, 1170 01:13:40,279 --> 01:13:43,479 if your core is quickly Mitchell and Barnes is sort of your top three, 1171 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,880 and then Siakam is there is there? I like it? Do I 1172 01:13:46,039 --> 01:13:49,479 love it? I don't know. It feels a little to wing light all 1173 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:54,000 of a sudden, which is a weird thing to say about Toronto. You 1174 01:13:54,079 --> 01:13:57,399 still have Scotty Barnes there, so maybe not. I don't hate the fit 1175 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,079 of Mitchell in Toronto. I think I'd be more intrigued by seeing him go 1176 01:14:01,239 --> 01:14:08,279 to a team that doesn't necessarily have the the league guard already in place. 1177 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,159 I guess the Mitchell's hit some gears defensively in Cleveland, where I wouldn't. 1178 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,600 I wouldn't. I wouldn't hate it as Rome without talking me into it. 1179 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,000 You might have talked me into it. I just only don't think there's gonna 1180 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,039 be a trade match there, and I do. I would still be more 1181 01:14:23,079 --> 01:14:28,800 intrigued with what happens if you put Donovan Mitchell in New Orleans or what happened 1182 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,720 that's your team role. Maybe you don't want to see Donovan Mitchell in in 1183 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,159 New Orleans. What happens if you put Donovan Mitchell with Red van Vwiet in 1184 01:14:34,319 --> 01:14:38,479 Houston and you're just kind of done with the Jayleen Green experiment. I don't 1185 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,720 hate that at all. We go on state get involved in that, I'd 1186 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,199 be more intrigued. I might be more intrigued by that. So they're not 1187 01:14:45,359 --> 01:14:49,239 kind of my favorite destination, but they're intriguing enough even after the iq RJ 1188 01:14:49,399 --> 01:14:54,159 Barrett trade. Good question though. We actually do have two questions left. 1189 01:14:55,319 --> 01:15:00,760 This one comes from Austin about Andre Drummond is twenty fifteen Andre Rumman two. 1190 01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:03,159 The Andre Drummond come through on a time loop. Yeah, he's been good 1191 01:15:03,359 --> 01:15:08,520 for Chicago. Highest offensive rebounding rate of his career, second highest defensive rebounding 1192 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:13,760 rate of his career. I think what really helps him in Chicago, and 1193 01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:17,119 look, there's he's still got offensive problems man with shot selection and finishing. 1194 01:15:17,399 --> 01:15:20,760 Who's shooting below fifty six that's the big yikes for a big man, especially 1195 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:26,039 when the league averages is fifty eight. What I think makes him so good 1196 01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:30,560 in Chicago is he's playing in smaller bursts and then they've simplified his role defensively. 1197 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,640 He's allowing sub fifty six percent shooting at the hoop. There's that streamlined 1198 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:39,239 role defensively for him around the basket, and now it not only helps playing 1199 01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:42,720 in smaller bursts, but all these aggressive perimeter defenders. A lot of the 1200 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,560 lineup su you're gonna see him in, and just a lot of the Bulls 1201 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,479 lineups in general are two to three of Alex Cruzo, Iota soon move Javon 1202 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,199 Carter and Patrick Williams on the court. That's massive for him when you look 1203 01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:57,039 at how disruptive all of those guys didn't really be on the perimeter. I 1204 01:15:57,119 --> 01:16:00,800 still think that he can be valuable as sort of a not even stop gap 1205 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,079 big, but it's just this cheaper option if you need a big where it's 1206 01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:05,840 like if New York is uncomfortable with Precious at you a sort of filling out 1207 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,159 their minutes at the five with a healthy once he's healthy, Jericho Sims and 1208 01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:14,359 then Isaiah Hart and Semi Asis Mitchell Robinson, or if the Grizzlies, you 1209 01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:16,319 know they have Jaron Jackson junior, there's someone Xavier Tillman, but they don't 1210 01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:19,840 want He could work in Memphis like that, but he still kind of needs 1211 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,600 to be in that smaller burst role or around a bunch of other not a 1212 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,520 bunch, but at least two other aggressive defenders, and so that's why maybe 1213 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,680 New York with OG would probably work for him. With OG and heart is 1214 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:35,760 there, so that could help Chicago. It just feels like it might be 1215 01:16:36,319 --> 01:16:40,159 perfect for him where if you were looking at him to be the backup big 1216 01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:44,039 Let's just say in Sacramento, for instance, or in Dallas, you're not 1217 01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:46,399 gonna have the same level of impact there, even though there's some better setup 1218 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:53,640 men in Sacramento and Dallas specifically. Final let's this will be the final question 1219 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:59,199 comes from where is it? Oh, here we are d nits. Who 1220 01:16:59,239 --> 01:17:03,720 are your favorite writers and reporters? And why so some criteria here I'm only 1221 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:09,439 gonna focus on there's one or two people who they're only doing specific team coverage, 1222 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,199 but I'm focusing on league wide coverage in net. And I'm also not 1223 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,439 I'm not gonna include people who just podcast where it's Steve Jones is on here 1224 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,159 for sure, but he's not writing, and so Nicias Duncan is definitely up 1225 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:25,359 there. He's not writing as often, but he he and Steve Jones collectively. 1226 01:17:25,399 --> 01:17:28,840 You know how I feel about the dunker spot. Some of the brightest 1227 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,000 minds in the business and the way that I really appreciate when Nicias is writing 1228 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,760 what he's able to do, and when he's breaking down perspective fits or new 1229 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:41,000 fits for guys who haven't necessarily played on these teams yet, when he's reacting 1230 01:17:41,039 --> 01:17:44,800 to trade rumors or recent trades, I think he does an excellent job of 1231 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,439 that. You're gonna laugh. He's my co host. Grant Hughes, one 1232 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,680 of the most underrated writers in the business. I love the way he looks 1233 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,800 at the game. He can. He just has these turns of phrases where 1234 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,000 he's both economical and his word count, but he's also just very clever and 1235 01:17:59,079 --> 01:18:02,560 point and so I love reading him and podcasting with him, and he's a 1236 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,920 genuine friend. So Grant. Kaitlyn Cooper of course shout around this podcast many 1237 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:11,439 times. I know she predominantly does just pacers, but she has branched out 1238 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,720 into league wide coveraget points and when she does, she absolutely kills it. 1239 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,680 And there's no one who is more nuanced, more specific and then blends all 1240 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,720 that with there's just not whether it's even and Zachlow's on this list as well. 1241 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,319 He doesn't need an explanation here. There's personality in his writing in addition 1242 01:18:25,399 --> 01:18:28,399 to it to be it being in depth. And then I really like that 1243 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,560 he runs the spectrum of He'll talk about rumors and perspective, trade fits. 1244 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,960 It's not just all x's and o's, but what Cooper is able to do 1245 01:18:34,359 --> 01:18:39,239 from the x'es and o's breaking down the game perspective to one, making it 1246 01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:43,000 accessible to everybody. And then just a really fucking good writer. It's just 1247 01:18:43,119 --> 01:18:45,720 not out there. There's maybe three people, three to five people who do 1248 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,439 it like can blend that as well as she does, and no one does 1249 01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:55,399 it better than she does. Katie high Knows also on there the Basketball Feelings 1250 01:18:56,399 --> 01:19:00,840 substack. She's just absolutely great. I read anytime I read anything she writes, 1251 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:05,000 I automatically hate everything I write that much more because she is just a 1252 01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:10,560 capslock writer. And she's also good at touching into the emotional side of this 1253 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,920 game, of this league, of the difficult topics when there are podcasters and 1254 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,439 writers and probably including myself, where we're too quiet or not loud enough when 1255 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:23,600 it comes to the Miles Bridges domestic violence allegations and issues, and the same 1256 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:28,199 thing with the Christops Porsliga's rape allegations that does just disappeared her willingness to step 1257 01:19:28,279 --> 01:19:31,920 out on that limb also as a women in sports where it's you're gonna be 1258 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:38,079 unfairly discriminated against to begin with from audiences, on top of just being so 1259 01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:43,399 super talented to just have that courage and the gall to talk about the profoundly 1260 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,119 important subjects that she does. I appreciate the content that she puts out there, 1261 01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:49,199 and it's a different way of looking at the league for some people where 1262 01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:51,960 it's not going to be as ny gritty about the x's and o's. But 1263 01:19:53,079 --> 01:19:55,319 that's a good change of pace. And it also it taps, like I 1264 01:19:55,319 --> 01:19:59,680 said, into the emotional side of the game a lot more than anyone else 1265 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,199 is going to. And you can still if you're a basketball Sico, you 1266 01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:05,199 were still good to find so much enjoyment out of what she writes. Brian 1267 01:20:05,239 --> 01:20:09,640 Taporek coworker's mind. He is very good at what he does, especially from 1268 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,880 a salary cap perspective. I always love too when he gets to edit my 1269 01:20:13,039 --> 01:20:15,960 pieces, if it's something on the Sixers specifically he does write at Liberty Ballers. 1270 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,199 He's also writing at Forbes, but the salary Cap the CBA. Knowing 1271 01:20:20,279 --> 01:20:24,520 that he is all over that. It really it makes me feel more confident 1272 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,760 what's going out there. His podcast co host Mort Jensen does a great job 1273 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,439 looking at the game league wide. I really like that his writing is very 1274 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:38,319 accessible to everybody, where he's able to distill down a lot of big picture 1275 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:43,439 stuff or even some really nuanced, some tedious stuff, just down to like, 1276 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,680 Okay, this was very economical, and what he did it was clear, 1277 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,000 it was well written. I can wait understanding and learning something new. 1278 01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:54,039 And he's very confident in his opinions the way he is able to portray those 1279 01:20:54,079 --> 01:20:56,680 where I think a lot of us. For me, I don't want to 1280 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,199 be wrong. I'm going to hedge and so I might use a lot of 1281 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:01,640 maybe and likes and try not. I might not be absolute enough in a 1282 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:06,000 lot of my analysis, and I think Moore does a good job of like 1283 01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:10,680 straddling that line of No, he's not this absolutist, but he is definitive 1284 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:15,199 and confident in what he's saying. Dan Devine of Yahoo Sports Now doesn't like 1285 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,520 when he gets to go in depth he does. I love how in depth 1286 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,920 he's able to go on topics where he does what Bleacher Report does, what 1287 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,880 I've done a lot of the time, and I strive to do is Yeah, 1288 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,960 you're gonna have to do with these most interesting teams or x number of 1289 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,399 teams that do this rext number of players, and he's still able to go 1290 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,520 into detail and make it his own. But then when he does dive in 1291 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,239 to just that singular topic. One of the best things he wrote this year 1292 01:21:38,319 --> 01:21:41,680 had to do with Wemby and the Spurs. He is really good to just 1293 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,600 bring the heat and the factual evidence support everything he's saying. One of the 1294 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:49,399 cleanest writers where the sentences can be like they're a great version of long. 1295 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,560 There's like such a flow to the way that he is writing. Michael Penaw 1296 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,439 the Ringer is really good at what he does. He does a great job 1297 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,800 of covering a lot of ground and not too much space where it makes you 1298 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:01,880 feel like you're sitting there too long, and yet at the same time, 1299 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,479 when he goes into singular topics or reports on something, it's always going to 1300 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:10,680 be super informative to learn something new there as well. Rob Mahoney one of 1301 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,800 my favorite writers of all time. He's on the level of Caitlin Cooper where 1302 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,760 it's like if you're taking someone's ability to just be a fucking incredible writer, 1303 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:24,079 but have this understanding of the game and then provide this factual evidence and then 1304 01:22:24,119 --> 01:22:29,000 apply it to the entire league. Or it's not just it's not just diagnosing, 1305 01:22:29,079 --> 01:22:31,439 it's prognosticating. It's not just acknowledging this is what I watched, it's 1306 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,760 well, what can happen here? Or what's going to be wrong here? 1307 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:39,399 What could be done better? What would I suggest here? His reporting has 1308 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,279 really leveled up a notch as well since he's been at the Ringer. In 1309 01:22:42,359 --> 01:22:45,199 my opinion, he and Dan Devine are probably two I've never invited either of 1310 01:22:45,279 --> 01:22:47,920 them on this podcast, I don't think, but those would be like dream 1311 01:22:48,039 --> 01:22:50,680 podcast guests. Everyone else that I've named so far, I believe it, 1312 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:56,119 with the exception of Zach Lowe has been on this podcast. Nicaius has not 1313 01:22:56,199 --> 01:22:59,920 been on this either. He did help me with a Bleacher Report project once 1314 01:23:00,119 --> 01:23:04,880 he was provide his expertise for that some others. Amon Aiden she's been on 1315 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,239 the podcast a few times. She's over at pros and Clause. She does 1316 01:23:08,319 --> 01:23:12,279 cover a lot of the raptors, but she has branched out into other stuff 1317 01:23:12,279 --> 01:23:15,359 as well, and she's good at tackling tackling some really they could be controversial 1318 01:23:15,399 --> 01:23:19,199 topics or sensitive topics, and then I just like she is able to go 1319 01:23:19,359 --> 01:23:25,239 into and provide excuse me, entertaining analysis where it's like she's mixed with jokes 1320 01:23:25,279 --> 01:23:28,239 on Twitter, but then her writing can sometimes include some of those, but 1321 01:23:28,279 --> 01:23:30,520 then it's also like you're reading a different person in a good way. And 1322 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,600 that's something I've always done, not necessarily to emulate after I'm on, but 1323 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,079 something I appreciate about her and something I always try and do. It's, 1324 01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:40,520 yeah, I can come off as like snarky on Twitter, but my writing 1325 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,239 is going to be like I can really turn a phrase if I want to. 1326 01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:45,680 I'm not good at confident in myself, but I can be a really 1327 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,159 good writer when the situation allows for it. And she's able to do that 1328 01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:54,359 incredibly well. And I've always liked the stuff she tackled a lot of the 1329 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,039 I think where her strength is like kind of outside the actual basketball stuff is 1330 01:23:58,079 --> 01:24:00,920 like when she was talking about the Damian Lillard trade quest and how to view 1331 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,359 it not just in terms of should the Raptors go after it? But how 1332 01:24:02,399 --> 01:24:06,319 do you view someone like that? And giving the one team trade request and 1333 01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,640 that element of it, and she did a great job there. Esperained probably 1334 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,960 one of the hardest working guys in the business. I'm sure you all follow 1335 01:24:13,039 --> 01:24:15,119 him on Twitter. He does a lot of multimedia stuff. He's been He's 1336 01:24:15,119 --> 01:24:18,680 been really great on video. He's a great Twitter follow He does a lot 1337 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,279 of stuff with the Raptors, but he's really knowledgeable when it comes to the 1338 01:24:21,399 --> 01:24:27,560 league as a whole. Keith Smith reports some stuff Noh's the CBA backwards and 1339 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,680 forwards. He is absolutely great. I think that's probably it just for now 1340 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,279 here. I'm sure I forgot people, but those are just like off the 1341 01:24:34,359 --> 01:24:39,720 cuff, the and when when we're looking at peer reporters I like I like 1342 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,960 Mark Stein, his substack has been really useful. Jake Fisher, I like 1343 01:24:44,039 --> 01:24:47,720 that he integrates like some personality into his reporting or analysis into his reporting, 1344 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,479 and sometimes it feels understated. Where I think he had a lead on the 1345 01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:56,079 was it the Raptors trade for Anonobe the intel that came and just like he's 1346 01:24:56,199 --> 01:24:59,439 kind of sneak in these either they're like digs, they're not too biting, 1347 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,960 or just personality in the reporting. Where Zach Low does it too, and 1348 01:25:02,079 --> 01:25:06,000 he just doesn't report as much. But like Jake Fischer's a lot of catslock 1349 01:25:06,079 --> 01:25:10,039 reporter, so I appreciate him doing that. But yeah, those are just 1350 01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:13,800 some Those are just some of the people. Those are the ones that I 1351 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,159 like to make sure that I'm reading consistently. And you all know I'm trying 1352 01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:20,279 to consume as much content podcasts, reading as much as I can. I 1353 01:25:20,359 --> 01:25:24,720 don't do as much of the video stuff, like because I love Ben Taylor. 1354 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,920 He's not really writing, but thinking about Basketball is a great podcast. 1355 01:25:28,279 --> 01:25:30,560 I don't watch nearly as much of his just like kind of singular topic videos 1356 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,079 as I should. For some reason, I guess like it's harder for me 1357 01:25:33,159 --> 01:25:36,840 to sit down and watch a video and remain focused when I'm reading. It's 1358 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,479 a lot of the time I'm doing cardio or something else. And then of 1359 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,479 course if I'm listening to a podcast, it's the same difference. I can't 1360 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,640 be doing cardio and watching a video for some reason, and I can't force 1361 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,880 myself to sit still in and watch a video. I can't expe as well 1362 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,079 I've done it, but as well, So thanks for asking that, d 1363 01:25:53,199 --> 01:25:56,960 Nance. I really appreciate when anyone cares enough to wonder about about me, 1364 01:25:57,159 --> 01:26:00,399 my preferences, proclivities, what have you. Thanks to everyone who made it 1365 01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:01,279 through. This will go up in the middle of the day, which we 1366 01:26:01,359 --> 01:26:05,279 normally don't do. On Tuesday, January second, Happy birthday to me, 1367 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,840 Mike Kevin Durant year. Celebrate with me by subscribing, sharing our content, 1368 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,039 telling people about us, help the community grow, shout outs on social media. 1369 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,359 Really appreciate every single one of you and all the support that you've given 1370 01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:20,000 us, and I'll reiterate once more. Join the discord even if you're not 1371 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,960 on Discord, download Discord, create the Discord account, just to join our 1372 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,199 discord, like is in the podcast and YouTube description. Shout out to the 1373 01:26:27,279 --> 01:26:30,600 one and only for ever and always, one of those big guard types. 1374 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,640 But I feel like I can do more. Frank Nila Keita