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You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience
podcast. In fact, you are,

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and a weir we go Welcome back
to the Gain and Salt the Experienced podcast,

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Roof. I don't know if you
know this. Oh, I know

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the only one that brings the firehouse
kitchen table to I don't know about that.

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Listen. I want to tell you
this thing. I don't know about

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that. There's a lot of guys
at this saying they do. But let

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me give you this little I don't
know you're ready for this. Can you

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get good pizza in Florida? No? You can't. You know why because

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you need the write ingredients. You
can call it pizza. I don't give

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a shit what you call you call, but it's not really pizza. You

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could say you've got the only fire
house kitch your table, but you really

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don't because you don't have the right
ingredients. You don't have this right here.

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So keep saying that you're the only
podcast. The guy on the podcast

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the day before we get him on
the podcast, how about that? Oh

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that hurts. That one hurts.
That's a that's lease on that one.

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I think if you see me,
if you see me moving around in my

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seat, my Hinne's a little sore
from that one. So I know somebody

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else's Hini? Who was a little
saw? Who's that? Who's that?

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Let let's just say I was at
UH. I just want to say I

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was in Harrisburg this week and it
was great and UH, I met a

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lot of people. I actually almost
I ran it to UH. I ran

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it to Jeremy. He's setting me
up here we go fire radio? I

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did? He was. I mean, no, it's not natural fire radio.

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It's I don't go to NFI,
which means I don't go to no

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fire radio. But he did.
He did beat you to the punch.

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But oh, he's got a picture
of his cat. Oh what is that?

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What happened? Just you ran right
into him. I don't know what

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was already there and you just what
happened? Wow? Wow? Man?

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You know if I had, if
I had feelings that I would be hurt

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right now. Take that in.
Yeah, that guy is in there.

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He gave video a lot. I
didn't know you guys were having him on

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tonight. I'm like, dude,
are you are you at your point?

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Yeah? That's my point, YEP, it's the I don't go to NFL.

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It's I don't go to no fire
radio. So that's what we're gonna

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call him. And the other guy
is Pindicue and the donkey what he doesn't

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I don't know. I don't know
if he does. But that's all I

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gotta say about that, right,
So so listen, we have a blockbuster

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guest bow. This guy gives and
gives back the fries service. You don't

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even have to bro you know.
He's a big Hollywood guy. You'll see

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how butter him up when he comes
in here. So, oh man,

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he's got the shuttles falling out of
his pocket all over the place. So

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listen for the three d games out. So for the three of you guys

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that actually watched Jeremy Show, don't
ruin if you have a couple of thousand

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in our show tonight, all right, don't route it for a few thousand

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watching live tonight. All right,
I'm not am not all right, guys,

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Let's move forward, come on quickly, all right, Here we go,

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excellent, excellent, excellent. All
right, it's time for before we

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bring in, uh mister Barker,
it's time for a new segment on the

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show. It'll be very brief,
h So gonzo throw that out there,

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bro al right from me, buddy, I had on my end. What

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see that? One more time for
me? I didn't miss what you say?

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What we'll be strowing up here right
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todd and unshy and unfiltered. Ladies
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Yes, this is a rent.
This would be really quick. So I

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don't know if you guys know about
the live burn that went out in ban

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Canada. So it was a prescribed
burn highlighted on the agenda of a woman's

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firefighting conference held to promote diversity and
conclusion in a male dominated field. It

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didn't go so well. Accidentally setting
BANF National Park ablaze wasn't part of the

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plan. Subscribe burn was carried out
in compound medals adjacent to the BF town

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site. It rags out of control
Wednesday, forcing a temporary evacuation of horses

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from the Banef Light Horse Association and
hundreds of area residents and tourists and the

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Rocky Mountain Resort. I'll make this
really brief, so being a rough we

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say it all the time. I
don't give a shit what you are.

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I don't give a shit if you're
a man, I don't give a shit

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if you're a woman. I don't
give a shit what color you are.

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I'm gonta give a shit what you
got between you like, just do a

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goddamn job. That's all we're saying. If you could do the job,

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then you're just a firefighter. You
don't have to be a male firefighter.

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You don't have to be a female
firefighter. You don't have to be an

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Italian firefighter. You don't have to
be a firefighter with a big, fat,

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crooked nose. You can just be
a firefighter, bro, that's all

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I'm asking for. Can we stop
putting people in boxes and just do a

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goddamn job earn it down buildings?
And yeah, that's it. That's all

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I gotta say about that. That's
it. Thank you. That's today.

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Don't all right? You want to
bring him in? Bro, let me

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get let me get my seat,
pill because my butt turnta come to the

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stage, Captain Bobby Burke. Whoa, he's like, no doubt he's saying

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that. Welcome to the show.
Welcome to the show, Captain Burke.

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Before we get started talking about your
dual career here, let's get patriotic served.

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Can you see by the dawnslylight?
What's so brightly we held at the

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twine lights? Lastlyming whose broad stripes
and bright stars? Through the proless fight

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or the ramparts we watched were so
galled lee streaming and the rocket rack glad

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the box fasting gay froof through the
night? That are flags? Was there?

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Oh? Say? Does that StarSpangled
God? Or the land of the

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Friend and the home of the brand? Amen? Well, like I said

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before, thank you for coming on
the show. Even if you saw the

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show mister Brooke, I appreciate it. But that speaks to what an honor

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is to be here. I know
what I mean, And I mean he's

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good. I don't know if he's
out right. I've seen some of the

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people you've had on the show,
and it is an honor beyond, uh,

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anything that I could ask for.
So I appreciate being Well, let's

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talk about how you have the time
to do two careers. How do they

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have time to be a volley captain, a firefighter? And I mean,

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I'm looking over some of the films
you're being been in that they're like,

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I didn't even know you're in half
of these? How did you even start

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that? How did you even start? I mean, let's talk about how

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at the beginning. I know you
get your first generation. Uh, your

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dad was from Galloway, Ireland,
So give us the early You grew up

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in Manhattan somewhere. I think I
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was a child in Washington Heights.
My parents immigrated from Ireland. They were

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in the thirties. Um, you
know, my father worked in the refrigeration

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warehouses on the West side of Manhattan. He was a bartender. He was

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the super of our building. So, um, you know it was it

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was we didn't know any better.
We were happy, Uh, not much

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money and stuff like that. Son, My father got a job as a

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m well a priest who in our
family knew situation and said to my father,

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I can get your job as a
church custodian in the east Northport.

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Get your family out of the city. So my father took the job and

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he retired. Well, he was
a church custodian until he passed away in

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nineteen eighty four at the age of
sixty four. And um, yeah,

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so that's that's that's how we you
know, from Ireland to um Manhattan.

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And but ninety five percent of my
family are still in Ireland. Really,

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you know, back often, all
right, as much as I can.

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Yeah, I go back very often. Actually I haven't been back since twenty

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nineteen, but we'll change that.
And I mean quite a few. It's

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embarrassing how many cousins really sure?
Yeah? Yeah, you have an identical

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twin brother, is that fraternal?
Fraternal? Billy? Yeah, fraternal?

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And I have three older sisters,
uh, two r ends. One's a

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nurse pectitioner and one was a speech
phothologist. An audiologist all retired. What

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does Billy do? Your brother?
High tech medical equipment sales. Yeah,

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so that was a pretty big move
to get to go from manhatt I mean

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it's a big move to coming here
obviously, but then to go to Manhattan

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to Long Island. What year was
at that was? That was seventy.

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My father didn't my father didn't care
for my father. It's not that he

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didn't care for America, but he
missed Ireland. Whereas my mother never looked

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over her shoulder. She couldn't get
out of there fast. She came here

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first. She was a seamstress.
She worked her way up, got a

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seamstress job with some uh, you
know shop on Fifth Avenue and uh.

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And then my father came a year
later. And then did they meet in

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Ireland? They were they were dating
in Ireland and my father wouldn't pop the

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question. And I think the story
was they met on a bus uh in

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uh in the city somewhere and that
was it. She knew he was on

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the way over. My father had
a sister, Mary, who worked with

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the Boston Red Sox Organization for forty
years. She was the private secretary of

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Tom and Jane Yaki, the owners, and uh, so she facilitated a

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lot of you know, their honeymoon
these types of things. And yeah,

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you grow up a Red Sox fan, did you? No? I did

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not, not in Washington Heights.
So there's a story there because we would

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get boxes of the top notch Red
Sox swag and my father we'd all look

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in the box and we're like,
wow, that's nice stuff, and down

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to the down to the convent it
would go. My brother said to me,

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this poor kid somewhere in the country
where in the finest red sixe in

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Washington Heights. You'd be like,
yeah, funny look, um, yeah,

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before the right across the river,
right across you know, yeah,

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your Marshall arts career too, right
what you're black? Oh? Yes,

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I I second degree. I stopped
training about oh uh twenty years ago.

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I trained for twenty years. Um. I trained with the some of the

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great best guys in the world in
Camp Hanson in Okinawa. During the Vietnam

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War, they would rotate Marines in
and out of that base. It was

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a Marine Corps base, and so
out the back door of this particular Camp

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Hanson was the headquarters of this particular
style of karate. You had an in

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northern amount of Marines who came back
to this country to proliferate that style.

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It's called Matsubayashi Sharon rue, very
no frills, Okinawan style. Five bucks

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in the can on a Monday,
Wednesday, Saturday night, very cheap.

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It wasn't a belt factory. I
can tell you that. I was a

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white belt for like five years.
I thought they just forgot me, but

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I didn't. It was not a
commercial school like Burke. Yeah. It

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wasn't a commercial school like Oh,
on Saturday, you're gonna take you a

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double secret test and you're gonna pay
two hundred and fifty bucks and you gotta

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get you. Yeah. No.
One night, one night he reached it

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and he pulled out a belt that
was like brown with green with brown tips,

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and he goes, work hard and
you'll deserve that someday. And that's

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the same thing he said to me
after seven years when I showed on it's

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called uh. He gave me my
black belt after seven years and he said,

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work hard, someday, you'll deserve
that. Wow. So twenty years

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of it, Oh yeah, no, I trained I. Yeah. That

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was the one thing that they asked
me and I remember specifically, they said,

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what we what we train, what
we show. You don't forget it.

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It would be an insult too to
forget it. So it was complimentary

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to to acting like uh, at
the beginning of a kada, you say

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hiju may it means begin, so
you don't go, oh wait, you

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know, oh let me adjust my
you know, you go, you know

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what I mean? And so um
listen. Uh for five bucks, you

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were getting like soaken, like the
the warm up was designed to make you

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pass out, you know, and
you know, vomit. It was really

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good, strong, hard training.
It was like having your own personal trainer,

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you know what I mean. But
you were learning something and it was

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very Uh. You were learning to
move with people very you know, in

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a sequential move and then weapons.
Uh try to be your alley Kobe.

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Yeah did you train? I did? Oh? What did you train?

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I took a couple of different things
I took. H they're very far it

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right now, bro, Yeah,
it'll come to me. Uh. Taekwondo

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I took for a long time,
which is it's not it's not made for

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somebody older with high kicks and stuff
like that. I have bad knees.

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It's just not practical, it's not
I did a little jiu jitsu, but

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not anything to speak up. But
I did it for a long time too.

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It's fun, it's a good workout. It is a good workout,

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and you can throw a beat down
if you have to. Yeah, many

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black boats get theirs kicked every day. So even monkeys can fall out of

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trees. Yeah, I see squirrels
ting all over the places. Miss in

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the branch. Dude, So you
went to you go to Northport or East?

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I'm sorry East Northport. I don't. I don't want to. I'm

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very proud of it's the Northport.
And what when did you know you wanted

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to be an actor? But uh, there's a couple of different segues.

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Uh. My father worked on the
docks. He had an Irish accent.

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He was six three two seventy five. I said I want to be an

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actor and he said three words.
He goes, fucking what? And so

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I said an actor and he goes, we don't do that, and he

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goes he goes, we don't even
know anybody who does that, and and

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then he's like, Mary, come
in here. He's talking. Man.

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He was the boy wants you have
no idea, we're gonna have to smack

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some sense it to him. Forgot
six. I think back on him,

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and I think, the poor guy, you know what I mean, what

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must he have thought? Like?
He just was like, you're gonna be

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a fucking you know you're gonna so
And we had hooks in the in the

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in the New York City Police Department
from that neighborhood. But anyway, he

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was very supportive in the end,
you know. He used to take me

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to classes, and then I got
an internship. Uh. It wasn't like

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guys and dolls and these types.
It was. It was anyway. I

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was supposed to um answer the phone
and paint scenery and sweep the floor.

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But I tried out for two of
the shows and I got them. And

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I'll try to make the short.
So I traveled the country in my senior

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year of high school rather than go
to school, and they given me one

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hundred and fifty bucks a day to
eat with. That's the per diem cash,

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untaxed because I'm a student, and
I kept it in a shoe box.

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I couldn't eat four dollars worth the
food in nineteen seventy seven, so

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I keep it in a shoe box. It's number two shoe boxes. And

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I come home and I have these
two shoe boxes and I showed my old

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man. He goes, He goes, what's that? And I said,

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that's what they gave me for action
for acting. Well fuck, it might

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not be a bad thing, you
know. Anyway, he goes, can

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you go to school for that?
And I said yeah, yeah, and

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he goes, well, okay,
And so I got a scholarship to a

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school in West Virginia. I went
to Suffolk Community. I went to Delphi

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uh where else there? And then
I did four years at a state University

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of New York and Purchase, New
York in Westchester. And that was a

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tough place to get into. The
training was very solid. Uh Stanley Tucci,

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Wesley Snipes, Edie Falco, they
were all with me there. I

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was with them there, and uh
yeah, so that's how I I was

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trained. And so he never got
to see you in a big movie or

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what about your mom? She passed
away twenty and eighteen. She was ninety

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eight. She was great. She
was she was a oh yeah, like

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I you know, I saw her
almost every day or I took care of

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her for seventeen years. Uh.
I always tried to get acting jobs in

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New York. Uh, you know, I took it every almost ninety eight

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percent of her doctor's appointments all the
time. She was in a terrible accident

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in seventy six. She was hit
by a drunk driver. Left handicap terribly.

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Uh you know, uh, twenty
percent vision left, but strong,

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Irish strong. There's a funny cross
over. Bobby Halton grew up in the

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same town Bobby Halton's mother and my
mother in mass like nine o'clock on a

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Tuesday, and Uh, she'd be
like, did your watch rescue me last

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night? He's like, and Missus
Halton was the one who told my mother,

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She's it's really a filthy show,
Missus Burke, you know. And

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and uh, Bobby and I would
laugh about that and love that he was

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his father. His father was very
instrumental in my family. After my mother

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was hit by that accident, and
his father worked in a law firm and

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and he came in one day and
he said to my mother in the hospital.

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She was in the hospital for over
a year, and he said,

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Missus Burke, you're gonna have to
talk about suing my mother said what what

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and she he said the lawsuit.
Now she says, oh, I'm not

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suing anybody. He goes, well, missus Burke, you know, and

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uh so, uh so my mother
goes, oh, it's not a Christian

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thing to do. And the joke
and the family was Mister Halton said,

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well, missus Burke, with all
due respect, this has got nothing to

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do with the Son of God.
You know, got a Ben Frank go

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to expression in our family. Somebody
go jas face and it's got nothing to

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do with us. And again,
but so nice people, very nice people.

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Do you think that's where possibly you
got the itch for them to be

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a five in? Okay? So
the Bobby Halton, I know, oh

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he was a he was a I
could not even believe what he was telling

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us, Like I couldn't even believe. Well, I'm looking I was looking,

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looking looking for this picture. A
couple fifteen years ago. I go

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online, I want to work a
work jacket for the firehouse whatever, and

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I said, iddled by Chief Bobby
Halton, And I'm looking at the picture.

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I'm like, thanks fucking Bobby Halten. So I email Penwell, I'm

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like, dar chief, are you
with these same? And he emails me

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back. He goes, oh,
I've been looking at you for years,

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Bobby boy, you know. So
I was like, look at you,

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you know, and uh but I
knew so he came out here to the

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island on a vacation once. It
was it was actually it was Billy golf

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at his wife's fiftieth birthday party and
this all you know, Dugan and everybody

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here at off ire Hall and Halton
is there and he's got his you know,

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little drink and everything, and I'm
looking at him. He goes,

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what I remember you and you had
head out of your ass. You're like

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listening at a grateful dead It was. I couldn't believe that this was the

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same guy. Skateboarder right, skateboarder. He was always on it. I

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can tell you that he was older
than me, but he was always on

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the skateboard I can remember that.
And uh, but it's just a terrifically,

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terrifically great guy. So what what
what drought you into the five service?

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Then? Well, it was my
my friendship with Pat Brown, and

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uh, Pat and I started knocking
around together like nineteen eighty five, eighty

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six. I was a contractor.
I quit acting after I got out of

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college for like six years and so
so I can't even believe that's him.

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It doesn't even look like him.
Man, the house I'm in right now,

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the room I'm talking to you from, was Pat's room. Okay.

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What we did was like ten of
us from the city would get together.

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We come out here. We'd rent
a house and and I said to Patty,

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I said, you know something,
pat you got to leave the island

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of fucking Manhattan someday, you know
what I mean, So why don't you

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throw in fifteen hundred bucks? Uh
April, May, June, July,

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August, Tomrocto seven months we get
the place, you know what I mean.

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He's like, yeah, okay,
So this was his room and h

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I turned it into kind of an
office. And uh So on nine eleven,

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when he uh was murdered and fell, I figured, know, let

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me go back to here, my
town. And you know, Patty used

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to say, who puts the fucking
fires out of here? I mean,

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and he was always talking about a
conflagration. I'm like, and what like,

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there's one goal they're all gonna go. And I'm like, I don't

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know, Joe, Jim John,
you know, and um, and so

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what happened was afterwards when I came
after nine eleven, his brother Mike and

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I spent some time on the pile, and Mike succumbed to nine eleven cancer

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to thirty twenty twenty. This Patton
Mike. There's a funny story about that

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little metal because Pat gave that to
Mike that day had a what's what's the

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ribbon for? With the bugle on
it. There's a little bugle on that

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ribbon, so it's a unit citation, unit citation. So Pat takes one

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off, gives it to Mike.
We're at the bar and some girl comes

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up to Mike. It goes,
what's that for? The band? Mike

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was a fireman at thirty seven and
forty one twenty fifth Street, and he

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put himself through um medical school at
Albany University, and he used to joke

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that being a city fireman was the
best summer job he ever had. So,

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but you see the two of these
guys, they sounded like, you

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know, punch drunk Queen's boxes.
They were both very, very, very

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brilliant. Mike was just like he
was a he was an engineering ruman and

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he left Grumman to become a city
fireman, and guys apparently would fall on

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the floor laugh and like why are
you leaving? In the city fighter book.

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And while he was a fireman,
puts himself through medical school and he

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becomes a top flight emergency medicine physician
for thirty years. He retired out of

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Nellis Air Force Base. He was
a flight surgeon for them. Uh I

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remember the FBI contacted me a bad
character witness for him. I'm like,

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he's a good guy. So when
you left acting for a little while,

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Jem, consider become a city fireman. No, not a fireman. No,

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never a fireman. Because John Timody
was the first deputy chief of Police

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in New York City, and we
knew the family, the Timmoy family,

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and so the consciousness of us as
children, we were told by other first

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generation, don't become a fireman.
There's nothing out of it. That was

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the election. Oh yeah, be
a policeman. You can get a free

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lunch, at least at the firehouse. You can get a free well,

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you know. But so anyway,
that was My father wanted me to be

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a police officer, I'm pretty sure. And he kind of left us alone

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just as long as we worked.
We always had a job, you know,

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putting papers together as a kid six
seven years old with ink on my

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hands until Wednesday, being no tables, cleaning the church, landscape being lawns,

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moss rock, brick shale. We
had to put ourselves through school,

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which was fine. Um uh,
you know, job, job, job,

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You're always working. But that was
fun because you if you like to

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work, it was fun and if
you work with good people, it was

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a lot of fun. So um
so uh yeah, no, I I

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stumbled back into acting in nineteen ninety. What made you want to leave though?

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Was there any particular reason? Oh? You know, yeah, it

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was after my father died. He
was in my head and like I could

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hear him saying, you know,
is this what a real man? You

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know, reacting? It was in
my head banging around. That guy was

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a man's man, right, So
I mean, I mean, big shoes,

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you know, boiler makers, and
and you know he would stare at

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you sometimes and you're like what you
know, you'd be crying and he's like,

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it's like, why are you crying? I'm like, because you're staring.

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I mean, I mean so uh. It was old school, you

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know, people who came into our
home said it was like being in the

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nineteen twenties or something. It was
very strict and um, but like we

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didn't know any better, you know. We worshiped him, and he took

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the wind down of my sales when
he passed because he was he was just

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such a good guy, you know, so you find your way back to

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acting, Like, no, it
found me. A guy I went to

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college with said I'm making a movie. You want to do be in it?

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And I was doing I'll never forget
this. I was doing a deck

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on a brownstone walk up on Astor
Place and Broadway downtown. Patty Brown came

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over. It was ninety nine degrees. He came upstairs. He goes,

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oh, this is great, Bob. I didn't know you did this ship.

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And I was like yeah, and
like we're putting stringers and we're drilling

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it to the walls into the brick
using water levels because it's so you know,

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tweaked. And he goes, this
is beautiful, fucking massive fire has

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it. But because he had,
like it was always crazy. We had

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no permits for this. Was that
a client because I want to deck back

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here? We're like, yeah,
no problem, problem. I mean there's

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eight billion. I often wanted to
go like pull over and just go upstairs

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and eight billion pounds of you know, lumbar lumbar. Yeah, yeah,

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twenty two foot As we're passing up, nobody stopped us. So, um,

406
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.880
so what was that movie that's the
guy I approach you with? Oh,

407
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.200
it was called The Unbelievable Truth.
It took eleven days to shoot.

408
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.200
It was my first film, and
he played Josh. Yeah and uh,

409
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.799
and so it was bought by a
company. I went back to work in

410
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:37.960
Brooklyn. I was doing a Brownstone. We were painting, plastering. Me

411
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.640
and my buddy Pauly Schultz. Uh. We did four stories inside. We

412
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:48.559
gave her a fucking wine seller dug
out of an old cold shoot. He

413
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.240
says one day, because you know
that would be a wonderful wine cellar.

414
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:57.079
I'm like, shut the trying to
get out of here. So then yeah,

415
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.880
he calls, he says, listen
the movie got Boy. You're gonna

416
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.319
be on a plane, Uh doing
press. And that was thirty three years

417
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:10.680
ago. So wow, what do
you think your biggest your biggest break was

418
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.279
that made you that kind of put
you on the map. That I mean,

419
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.200
because you have a Tombstone. I
mean, I gotta left. You

420
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.319
mean, you talk about Tombstone.
That's if that's not one of the most

421
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.960
quoted movies in the firehouse. And
if you're sitting in the firehouse and somebody

422
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.160
pulls out quote up, you're like, yeah, that was. What was

423
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.799
it like being on the set of
that, shooting horses and riding you know,

424
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:34.279
shooting guns and riding horses. You
know, it was Uh, I

425
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.319
was pinching myself. You know,
who gets to do movies? Who gets

426
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:44.599
to be in a western? Uh? You know, I'm looking and I'm

427
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.480
talking with having dinner with Sam Elliott
and and you know, uh, all

428
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:55.960
these other great actors, Val and
um uh huckle Berry Well at the at

429
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:57.640
the shootout at the Okay Corral,
I said him, I got you now

430
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:02.920
you sent him if you do?
And then he driels me here. Bill

431
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:12.799
Paxton goes like this from I'm like
shooting. We had fun, we worked,

432
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.519
you know, it was it was
one hundred and ten degrees there the

433
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.079
whole time and it's a dry heat. Um, but it was it was

434
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.240
like I'm like, I said,
uh, why did I get to do

435
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.319
that? How did I get to
do that? It was just it was

436
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.240
awesome. It was awesome to be
in a part of it, you know.

437
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.240
So I can't believe that I looked
at that when I was looking through

438
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:36.279
your your list just before. Yeah, that's nineteen ninety three, bro,

439
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:42.519
I'm not kidding. I had to
have watched that movie. It has to

440
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.240
be a hundred times. If it's
all, I have to stop it.

441
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:51.119
It's a rabbit hole. I can
tell you that you got any firehouse anywhere

442
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.160
in the country, because I've been
in Well, it might not be on,

443
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.119
but there's a tape of it,
like two or three of them,

444
00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.200
like with dust on them. It
was a standard. Uh. A lot

445
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.000
of different stories about that movie.
As a matter of fact, the twenty

446
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.519
fourth of June, they're flying me
out to a thirtieth anniversary of it.

447
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.079
I'm not even in the goddamn movie
to tell you that, you know what

448
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:15.880
I mean. My son, my
son was like six months old. I

449
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.359
said, I'm not going to the
premier. I'm not a big fan of

450
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.519
those things. So I sent my
Uh, I stayed home with the baby.

451
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.319
He was a few weeks old,
and I sent my brother and my

452
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:29.319
wife and his wife and and he
comes back. Fucking Gray movie and I

453
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:30.640
go really, Oh, he goes, it's gonna be clad. He goes,

454
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:39.000
you're not, but it's glad what
happened? Yeah right they yeah you

455
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:46.680
guy bro. Yeah. The uh
the director got fired after six weeks and

456
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.480
they replaced him with another guy.
So this statement. They cut a lot

457
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:57.160
of the backstory. Frank McClary,
my character was the fastest gun historically,

458
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.680
So take Frank first and then cut
to me shooting cans and so all of

459
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:06.359
that was cut out, which was
fine with me because Kurt Russell said to

460
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:07.679
us one day, he goes good
news and bad news. The good news

461
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:12.239
is we're gonna keep shooting. The
bad news is, um, everybody should

462
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.119
is cut out of the movie.
I was like, well, I gotta

463
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:15.840
go home, and he goes,
no, no, no, we're gonna

464
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.880
stay and keep shooting. So but
it was a lot of how he yeah,

465
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.400
totally, totally, No, he's
he's a good guy. He's a

466
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:30.960
solid guy. Um. You know
there was uh friendships I made on that

467
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.719
movie that I still have and Bill
Paxton being one of them who passed a

468
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.760
couple of years back. Great guy, great guy, funny as hell,

469
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:42.880
a beautiful guy. I'm in touch
with his son, you know, on

470
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:47.119
a monthly basis. James wonderful young
man making his way in acting. And

471
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.719
so you know, one minute you're
watching these people in movies and the next

472
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.960
minute you're talking with them, and
it's it's that's always been kind of a

473
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.480
surreal, you know thing to me, very much like the funniest service.

474
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:01.559
It's like, oh, there he
is, you know here, you know,

475
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.679
that's get to talk with these guys. Have you ever seen anything like

476
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.960
that? I've never even heard of
anything like that. Of that's the guy

477
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:14.159
when he when what's his name?
When he's walking when Crystal Water he's going

478
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.320
out to the creek and uh,
what's his name? Bill? What's his

479
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:23.039
name? Look at that? Look
at that we can powers booth. Yeah.

480
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.480
And then after after that, after
that shootout, the guys are talking

481
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:29.719
and he goes, have you ever
seen anything like that? He's like,

482
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.719
hell, I haven't even heard it, heard anything. But you did robo

483
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:40.679
Cop three before that, huh before
U get yeah, yeah, that was

484
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:49.760
ninety Oh boy, it's a big
blurred ninety two two. It came out

485
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.519
in ninety three. So they called
me and they're like, they want you

486
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:58.920
to do RoboCop and I'm like why
and uh uh, I had done two

487
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:04.760
like classy independent films. I says, how did they how did they see

488
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.800
me as a robot? For Christ's
sake? At this point, I said,

489
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.679
look, Jesus Christ, like anybody
could do it. It's like,

490
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.119
what are they being me for?
And and they kept saying no because I

491
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:16.880
looked like, weller a little bit, you do look like if with the

492
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:22.880
thing on, you look like well
yeah, so um so I held out

493
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.960
for like eight months. Now,
thank you all. I'm flatted because you

494
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.519
got to watch how you say no. And then all of a sudden,

495
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:35.920
my wife came home one day and
I said, hello, missus robo because

496
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:43.880
they sent you the number. Oh
yeah, I'm doing this. We can

497
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:45.800
make this work. Maybe we can
make this work. I used to call

498
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:52.679
it humping the garbage can. It
was, you know, right, So

499
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.960
let's get to the fire service a
little bit. When did you become When

500
00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.239
did you want to get involved in? So again? After after we operated,

501
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:05.360
well, we worked on like trying
to find pat trying to find anybody.

502
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.199
One of the things I observed downtown
was like by virtue of how many

503
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.800
people you lost, that's where you
were on the pile and three truck was

504
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:19.519
going like right up every night.
And so I was standing outside the firehouse

505
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.159
with Pat's brother, Mike, and
they said, Mike, what do you

506
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.920
want to do when he goes,
I want to go look for Pat?

507
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:27.400
And he just points him. He
goes and you're coming, And I was

508
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:31.000
like, I got nauseous to tell
you the truth I had never Let me

509
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:36.360
just preface this by way of saying, I hung around with Pat. I

510
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.920
knew, you know, friends of
his in the fire service, and I

511
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:45.519
had zero idea what was involved with
the job. I had zero, you

512
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.239
know, And I'm sitting down listening
to these guys talk and you know about

513
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.480
pushing lines, taking doors and set
the other and I still, I'm a

514
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:57.400
civilian who hangs out with happens to
have friends who are fireman, zero idea

515
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.840
of what's involved in not just any
fireman. No, I didn't. I

516
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.760
didn't know that at the time.
He thought what I did was nerve racking.

517
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.599
I'm like, kimme, f I
can break so um. So you

518
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:13.760
know, it's twenty years later,
I think through osmosis or something that I

519
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.440
did understand that I did pay attention
to certain things that he was saying certain

520
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.360
ways that he conducted himself on the
fireground, certain ways that he did not

521
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.320
conduct himself. So anyway, yeah, I came back to my town,

522
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.480
I says, will you guys take
me? And they're like, how old

523
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.079
you? I said forty one?
Yeah, sure, and off I go

524
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:37.960
to the Suffocanty Fire Academy. Great
training. Can't say enough about the instructors

525
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:42.239
there. I think there a lot
of guys from your job who maybe moonlight

526
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:47.079
and there gentleman, just gentleman,
professional. No matter how bad you screw

527
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.480
something up, it's always okay,
fellows a couple of things, you know

528
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.320
what I mean. It's it's never
like this meaning no, no, no.

529
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:58.199
And another thing about the fire service
for me is the fact that it's

530
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.679
a learning culture, constantly learning,
constant. I said to a guy the

531
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.719
other day, honest to god,
I said, how are they doing it

532
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.239
now? Because you just come out
last year. They goes, oh,

533
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.480
they're doing it. I feel it
was Uh. I'm always asking the new

534
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.039
kids, like, how do they
do it now? How do they you

535
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.719
know? Whatever it is, whatever
task it is, it could be small,

536
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.119
it could be big, um,
and you try and keep up on

537
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:20.800
these things. But at the same
time. A lot of times they're switching

538
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.920
things up. It could be something
that's benign as you know, opening a

539
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:28.199
hydrant and you know universal Oh no, mister bark, they're opening it at

540
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:34.840
the hallway and oh um you know, so you have to like speaking yeah

541
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.000
so um uh and and you know, keeping up the training with the young

542
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:49.920
guys um uh uh. Not only
are we volunteer, we are seasonal and

543
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:55.039
we are chronically understaffed. So uh
you know yeah yeah, but here like

544
00:39:55.119 --> 00:40:00.519
in the winter, like I said, a seasonal, so you have a

545
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:08.480
good part of the membership who goes
back to wherever they're primary domini. So

546
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:13.639
for the audience, you're on Fire
Island, right, Ocean Beach ostensibly,

547
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.119
yeah, Ocean beach. Which is
I mean, is there's one bridge to

548
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:19.639
Fire Island? No, there's two. There's one of the east and one

549
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.119
of the west, but we only
use the one on the west. How

550
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.880
many companies are on five? Five
companies which consist of what any engine companies?

551
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:30.920
A lot of companies, but no
ladders operations at all, zero ladder

552
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:36.480
ladder, no ladder operations at all. You're conducting yourself as a truck company.

553
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.000
And is a subject to when you're
due. When you come in,

554
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:43.920
Uh, you'll be tasked. You
know, you will not be able to

555
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.679
I mean you get up on the
roofnext you shoot. You're a ladder company,

556
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.280
you're you know, you're a tower
ladder um. So you have to

557
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.079
be ready to um to you know, whatever your task is, to be

558
00:40:53.159 --> 00:41:00.239
able to perform it um subject to
when you would do that. We're bob,

559
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.880
So we did both. Well,
yeah, absolutely absolutely. Let me

560
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.840
just also preface that by way of
saying very straightforward here, we don't do

561
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:12.400
mvas. I mean we have car
fires, we have truck fires, things

562
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:16.440
like that, but you're not doing
um. What you are doing is straightforward,

563
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:22.800
you know, wood frame, balloon
construction, residential taxpayers with thirty winds

564
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.199
every day. Well, you know, a guy said one time, since

565
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.519
you know, burke Win, does
your size up? Begin? I sit

566
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.800
out here when I opened my fucking
eyes in the morning, you know,

567
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.280
because you gotta know where are you
going to lay in? You know?

568
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.440
Um? And where is your water? Some of the municipalities here have shitty

569
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:44.320
water, some have We have very
good water in ocean beach. Will will

570
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:49.079
you know, stretch five inch half
a mile sometimes to you know, bring

571
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:53.480
better water with you. Um.
So there's it's it's you know, I've

572
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.920
been reading lately. It's very good
things about the fire Service on you know,

573
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.320
these these website. And one was
like, you know, you have

574
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.760
to be an athlete, but you
never get to know when the game is

575
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:07.639
played, you know. And I
like that. I get that you have

576
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:13.400
to you know, Um, well
that's all pre planned and and training and

577
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.880
drilling, you know, but here
we practice short man drills. Three guys

578
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:21.480
getting as massive amount of water going
as possible, stretching lines for other people

579
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.039
who are coming in. I have
a lot of exposure problems. I would

580
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:34.440
imagine back to conflagration. I mean, everything's a small wood bungalow right or

581
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:40.760
something like this, massive you know, plastic boxes being built. Um,

582
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.000
they are daunting because we don't have
the tower operations. So you're wondering,

583
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:49.480
am I going to spend time throwing
a ladder there? Or am I gonna

584
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.000
just save his house? You know
what I mean? And with three guys

585
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:57.719
on a windy February night, you
don't get a lot of choices. You

586
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:01.719
have to make quick choices about um, you know, risk and reward.

587
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.119
Those type of assessments. What's the
population in the summer and the winter.

588
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.679
I couldn't really tell you. It's
like I've heard figures like, uh,

589
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.559
six hundred seven hundred in the winter
when COVID hit a lot a lot of

590
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:22.880
people came out um uh and in
the in the in the summertime, I

591
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:24.639
actually don't know what the numbers are. You have a lot of day trippers.

592
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:30.559
We have two als and less is
UM and we do a lot of

593
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.519
metavacs. Also, uh, if
you get jammed up, you know,

594
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:39.280
designation wise, you know, uh, I don't really know what the designations

595
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.199
are. Just in terms of your
injury. You're gonna go out by helicopter.

596
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.119
If we drive you down the beach. If you don't have a broken

597
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.840
neck, you're gonna get one.
So you're put in the helicopter and you

598
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.480
go to UH you can go to
Stony Brooks outside UM anywhere that has a

599
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:59.079
trauma center. And you were talking
about mutual aid before. Who would be

600
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:05.320
first coming over for mutual If it's
east of the district um Ocean Bay Park,

601
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.320
Point of Woods, if it's west
of the district, Fair Harbor,

602
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:14.039
Salt Air Kisman and you know,
actually Chief I'd rather Captain Bertucci said,

603
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.719
once he goes, we're all five
different, five different engine companies. And

604
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:24.360
Bertucci from eighteen yeah, rescue four
always in fact, if Captain Rescue four

605
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:29.000
wasn't he No, oh no,
captain of eighteen Right. I was in

606
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.000
Proby school with him too. He's
out there by you. He's about three

607
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.440
miles west of me. Get out
of here. He should have got it

608
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.599
started a gail company. Yeah,
you had the perfect hair. That guy

609
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:44.440
my favorite. Ask about the first
day when he wore the wrong shirt in

610
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.199
Provy school. Next time you say, wow, he's never gonna forget that

611
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.599
one. Bro. The funds,
they say, I have this ferry.

612
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.559
Yeah yeah, yeah, I'll be
taking it, uh all of July in

613
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.840
August because private vehicles have to be
off the eye. Right, you're probably

614
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.880
not doing any work right now.
There's a writer strike, right yeah,

615
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:08.360
um, you know it is what
it is? They uh they come about

616
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:13.320
that, Um yeah, because they're
going to be doing a way with writers.

617
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:15.800
You just type in what you want
to the computer and the AI guys.

618
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.400
Right now, that's all I keep
hearing about, is this AI stuff.

619
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.800
I'm not too sure what's going on. It's out of the bag.

620
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.519
It's uh, it is, it's
bad. It's bad. Won't you won't

621
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:30.840
need writers? Hearing a lot about
this, and it's almost like I could

622
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.920
pump in uh every episode of Sopranos. The Sopranos ended. They're all at

623
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.880
the dining room, the diner table, and you could say to the computer,

624
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.400
hey, give me the next episode. Club. What would be a

625
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.280
great way to have this show recrank
itself, reconstitute itself. You press enter

626
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.480
that that computer, that program will
give you pographs and everything, scripts,

627
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:59.440
everything. At some of the standing
what was your favorite? What was your

628
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.840
favorite? Uh? Movie? Did
we ask him that or any did?

629
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.920
I didn't really have a favorite.
I liked different ones for different reasons.

630
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:13.719
Um. I like to be honest, historical films where you're actually playing somebody

631
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.840
that actually lived. Then you get
to research the person. You're either gonna

632
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.920
try for a to duplicate the person, or or you're gonna go off on

633
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:29.159
your own. When I did um. General Maddis in Generation Kill. You

634
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:34.840
know, he has a high pitched
voice, very specific, and the dialogue

635
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.199
for the scenes they have called for
somebody barking orders and being you know,

636
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.280
very what the audience would think is
marine like in terms of command presence.

637
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.400
So I didn't really do an imitation
of him, per se. I did

638
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.360
my own, but I thought,
you know, marine Corps general leading the

639
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:59.800
first Marine Division should sound like.
And that was scary because I had I

640
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.159
think ten or fifteen of the guys
who were actually in the first Marine Division

641
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:07.360
standing there like this. Go,
okay, they do that a lot,

642
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.880
right, they have well, they
had consultants, but the guy who wrote

643
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.920
it brought a lot of his buddies
over. There was one particular Marine Corps

644
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:22.639
Recon sniper named Rudy Reyes Um.
This guy's actually on the calendar of Marine

645
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.800
Corps Recon. I mean, he's
just an incredible specimen. You know,

646
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:31.360
X amount of confirmed kills um and
and we're still in touch. He actually

647
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:36.639
came out he had to the beach
to a warrior appreciation event we had and

648
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:42.599
um uh so yeah, and and
and and so certain you know roles that

649
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.239
where you have to um uh,
you know, research and historically it's always

650
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:52.119
interesting. So he did seven years
on rescue. Me like, how yeah,

651
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.800
what was did they they know you
a fireman? Did they approach you?

652
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.840
I wasn't uh, I was coaching
third base. I remember in Little

653
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.159
league in my phone rang and it
was like, oh, they want you

654
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.840
to do rescue me and I go, oh, oh Dennis Leary, Oh

655
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.760
okay. So the first um they
told me you're playing his cousin. I

656
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.760
said, oh yeah, and he
goes it's the Gavin family. They're Irish

657
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:20.199
and yeah, he goes, you're
a priest and I said, minute hall

658
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.880
on hall of fun. So Dennis
we got on the phone and uh,

659
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.679
Dennis says, you'll be a priest
for the first season. And I said,

660
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:30.719
you throw me a fucking carvedball,
all right? You know, oh

661
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:32.960
the character does this now? And
I'm like, nah, there's a character

662
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.719
does not do that. So he
was true to his word. You know.

663
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.159
I left the priesthood after the first
season, and then I just became

664
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:45.880
like, uh, like kind of
the family Consigliari. If Irish family is

665
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:52.320
going to have a consign Yeah.
I actually met uh uh Dennis. We

666
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:57.239
went to he had contacted I guess
through the f d N Y. He

667
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:02.039
wanted to do just for the twenty
anniversary for the squads obvious. Yeah,

668
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:06.639
and when we you know a lot
of the squads I think five five out

669
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:10.239
of the Seven lost everybody, and
so he wanted to do something about that.

670
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:14.760
So he got in touch with a
friend of mine at downtown and then

671
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:19.400
they contacted me, and then I
actually went to go sit with him and

672
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.719
his son and yeah, yeah,
and we were bullshitting. He actually took

673
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.360
us after for lunch and we you
know, I was telling him some of

674
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:29.119
the stories that I had seen and
what I heard, and he's like,

675
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:30.440
this is going to be great.
I am looking for you know, I'm

676
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.239
going to do this. You know, I want to do this. We

677
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:37.639
had a year. Yeah, this
was so yeah, it was like twenty

678
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.679
and then sure a shit COVID hit
and that's kind of why it didn't get

679
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.960
done. And then a little while
after that, I had contacted him to

680
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:50.239
try and see if I talked to
his son mostly. I guess he handles

681
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:53.000
most of his stuff and he's been
pretty cool at me. I haven't really

682
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.760
called him or texted him, Like
you said, time goes by probably like

683
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.079
six months, but he said maybe
we'll get him on. But I guess

684
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:05.400
then he started a new show.
Right now, he's doing something that really

685
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.639
took off, I think, or
something like that. I don't even know.

686
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.760
Dennis. Did he do anything.
I actually did a thing with him

687
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.960
called a race. It was a
pilot. It didn't get picked up.

688
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:15.679
I'm not even sure what he's doing
now. I didn't even ask him.

689
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.360
Yeah, I'll tell you one thing. Let me say one thing about him.

690
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:25.719
After the what's the called storage fire, his cousin Jeremiah Lucy, Jerry

691
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.920
Lucy, who has his children,
are on the job in Worcester, Massachusetts.

692
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:36.320
Now, so Dennis starts this foundation, He's another guy actor doesn't have

693
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:40.400
to do it. How many how
many firefighter foundations can you name that are

694
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:45.320
run by actors since nineteen ninety nine? You can't. So I always respected

695
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:47.559
that about him. And then when
nine to eleven came around, he was

696
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:51.280
kind of poised to, like,
you know, raise money and help families

697
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:52.719
and do whatever he needed to do. And then he got in with the

698
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:59.480
FDNY. But you know this,
this many years later, this many years

699
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.519
later, Um, no mission fatigue. He keeps up in the anti Yeah,

700
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.880
no doubt, you know what I
mean. And I always respect that

701
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.920
because you know, so many times
after you know, uh, you know,

702
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:14.440
especially with veterans, you know,
oh, everybody falls asleep, everybody

703
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.639
forgets after nine eleven. Everybody's on
the west side Highway holding up and then

704
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.880
all of a sudden, you know, it's gone. So he is not

705
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.960
a guy who does that. A
couple of years ago he said, uh,

706
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.400
he goes, you know, people
write a check for the f D

707
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.079
and why foundation for the Leary Foundation. He goes, there's nothing to that.

708
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.639
Any rich guy can write a check. He goes, Let's bring them

709
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.079
to the rock, let's put them, let's have them push a line,

710
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.320
Let's have them you know, awesome. And and I'm telling you, guys

711
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:44.920
say that it's a lot of fun
those stuff. It's well, I think

712
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.000
it's a good morale booster. The
guys seem to enjoy it, the instructors,

713
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.159
and they're complete gentleman professionals. They
get a kick out of it.

714
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.480
Yeah. But uh and he raises
a lot of money. And uh so

715
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:59.679
did that stuck seven years ago?
The firefighter child's doing it that long.

716
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.639
It's well, that's just the challenge. He would have these events. Uh,

717
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:08.519
you know up there he put several
building was like five million, The

718
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:14.119
mobile command post was seven hundred and
fifty thousand. I got a call,

719
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.400
I think it was a guy named
Jimmy Brennan and a guy named Bobby Bobby

720
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.000
Higgins who were working at the I
can't remember it was then we called me

721
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.400
but they put a flash over a
simulator and they said, hey, Burke,

722
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:30.440
what's up. I said whatever,
and he goes, it's broke.

723
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:32.199
It's broke. I said, what's
broke? He goes the simulator and I

724
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.840
said, so, what are you
calling me for it? He goes,

725
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.920
uh, well, who has the
service contract? Like I don't fucking know

726
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:42.719
what. We had to go out
and raise money too. We never nobody

727
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:46.239
ever bought a service contract for the
flash over simulator. But here again.

728
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:53.920
Uh you know when Joe uh deepon
auto uh passed away, Joey and you

729
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:58.400
know, Chief deepon Auto calls me
and he says, we'd like you to

730
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.679
be the the celebrity. And I
go, Chief, I tell you whatever.

731
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:06.639
I tell everybody. If I'm your
celebrity, you're already in fucking trouble.

732
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.559
And then I, you know,
I had a further talk and I

733
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:14.960
said, yeah, I'll see what
I can do. So my instinct was

734
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.480
to call Dennis and I said,
listen, you gotta give these guys some

735
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:22.840
money to start the foundation up.
And it's firefighter Survival and Dennis is like,

736
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.119
no, push off, you know, hes back. People give me

737
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:31.880
money from my foundation, I don't
give it a you like. So anyway,

738
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:37.760
you know, Chief D wrote a
grant for months and months, eighteen

739
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:42.119
months of grant writing. Because Dennis
was not running his own foundation. It

740
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.159
was being run by an outfit called
Innovative Philanthropy, and he had it.

741
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:50.719
You know, Chief D has to
write a grant for these people. So

742
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.000
Dennis actually decided, you know,
he said, well, we've approved some

743
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:55.960
money and I'm not gonna say what
he is here, but it was substantial.

744
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.480
So I tell chief you know,
tell we're talking about it. And

745
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:04.559
he said it's X amount every every
year, each year for ten years.

746
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.079
And we were like my own whoa? You know, it was good.

747
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.679
So the way I always describe it
is, um, you know, Dennis

748
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:19.840
has been instrumental in buying material uh
you know, equipment, Uh you name

749
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.440
it. Boats. We were stored
fourteen to twenty two firehouses in New Orleans.

750
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:27.880
I did five trips down there.
Uh wow, I didn't know.

751
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.920
Oh yeah, And um I brought
my son. He was thirteen. They're

752
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:32.599
like, how old is he?
Because he had to be sixteen. I

753
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:37.960
said, he's sixteen. His mother's
on the phone. Is it moldy down

754
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:45.320
there? Allergy? Like? I
put you my son. He's got the

755
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:51.000
Uh, he's got the cutters.
And we sent him out in the backyard

756
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:54.079
with the cutters and he's he's breaking
cinder blocks and I said, that'll keep

757
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:58.320
him busy. And this guy,
Kevin Parent, he was the commissioner of

758
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:00.920
the Fire Service. He comes at
the back. He's like, who are

759
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:08.360
you any way? Uh so uh
leary where he as he buys material?

760
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:15.280
Uh. Chief DS Foundation has become
the shock troops. You know what I

761
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.280
mean. You can have all the
thermal images and all the you know,

762
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:23.559
doors and tools your life, but
unless you have uh guys teaching and instructing,

763
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:29.159
and you know Chief D puts together. It's like learning you know,

764
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:35.599
baseball from the Yankees and very effective. Uh and and and again another guy

765
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:39.440
who didn't sit back, you know
who could have ums no nonsense too,

766
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:45.639
you know, yeah, no,
there's very the I wrote this word down.

767
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:57.920
The the friction coefficient is very fucking
low. He's a great guy.

768
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.760
I can't tell you how much I
admire that man. And you know,

769
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:08.320
uh, that guy man he is. He lives and breathes it. Joey

770
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.679
was kind of, I guess,
helping out with the Suffolk County Fire Academy

771
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.000
one night and I was over there
and I was getting my classes and those

772
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:20.719
things. You had to go to
a different firehouse to get each of the

773
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:22.159
the training, you know, So
it was ropes, knots, and ladders

774
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:27.559
one night and he me and this
guy I was with, and he goes.

775
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:29.519
Joey comes out. I don't know
who he is, but I know

776
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:31.920
he's like an elite guy, just
the way he's conducting himself. Swag.

777
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.599
Yeah. And he goes, tie
a halfitch tie, clowitch tie, a

778
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.079
bowling tie, a Beckett Ben.
Then I'm like killing it with my all

779
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:45.639
my dyslexia. I'm sweating and I'm
killing every knot and he goes, where

780
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:47.800
are you from? I said,
ocean beach, tying up fucking boats your

781
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.760
whole life. So I was like, whoa, you know I got past

782
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:57.239
that guy. Well that's what he
said, which is not true. I

783
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.639
mean, I just knew those four
knots, but I remember him specifically.

784
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:07.079
And then when you know, after
that particular Sunday, in that particular operation,

785
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.920
uh, Dennis went to work and
uh, you know, uh,

786
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:17.440
they they had an evening honor in
the fireman and who were involved in that

787
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.920
day, and and and again.
You know, uh you can lay back,

788
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.880
you can sit back and do nothing, but uh, the Demon Auto

789
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:34.519
Foundation has exponentially increased the fantastic I
mean fantastic. These guys don't have to

790
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:37.239
you know, I mean you know, but it's so effective to training.

791
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.400
And I said to Dennis Dennis a
couple of years ago we were at the

792
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.320
Rock and he goes, oh,
we've trained eighteen hundred fireman. I said,

793
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:49.840
no, you haven't. And I
got my phone and got my calculator,

794
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.039
said you're trained about eight hundred thousand. He's like, what are you

795
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.239
talking about? So you don't understand
the fire service. If if two guys

796
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.639
come to Chief D's seminar, they
go back and train five five guys who

797
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:04.960
trained five guys. And I said, so do the math And he's like,

798
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.119
all right, never. So you
know it's it's very guys are going

799
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:10.400
home, I believe because of the
deep in UNO foundation. Yeah, just

800
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:16.559
get on the job, brot the
job. I say this to Louie every

801
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:21.159
year around nine to eleven, like
everybody throws around the old you know,

802
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.039
never forget, never forget, never
forget, you know. But it's guys

803
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:29.599
like you and Dennis and Chief d
and all these other guys who truly,

804
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:34.000
you know, make those words count. And we can't tell you, like

805
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.719
Louie and I, we lost nineteen
guys from a firehouse. So that's something

806
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:39.599
that's never gonna go away. So
it's guys who actually put them money with

807
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:44.719
their mouth is really you know,
it means a lot to us. And

808
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:45.719
on top of that, if you're
one of those guys, you're on the

809
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.360
top floor and it gets crappy and
you don't have a rope, you know,

810
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:52.440
oh you know, you only got
one shot at that, you know.

811
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.400
And we practiced that. We practiced
when we got the ropes back.

812
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.800
Um, you know, we practiced
all different ways. Right. It wasn't

813
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:02.599
just you know, go back,
you know the way the job taught you.

814
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:05.800
It was go back, you know, to hear tie off. You

815
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:07.039
know you don't have that time,
you know what I mean. It was

816
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:10.199
put your tool in the corner,
click clip in, roll out out the

817
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:13.760
window. And we were out the
window. You can have five guys go

818
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.320
on one hook, you know,
we practiced every scenario because yeah, you

819
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.960
knew you weren't going to have the
time to do that, so right.

820
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:23.360
But we really, like I said, Bob, we really appreciate guys like

821
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:28.280
you Listen, it's a it's an
honor like you talk about you know,

822
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:32.760
sports, sports heroes are really um
you know, uh, show business,

823
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.280
Oh wow, that guy's you know, when I understood I started to interact

824
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:40.840
with people in the in the fire
service, not you know, PD,

825
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.559
I don't really know, but the
fire Service. It was just like it

826
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:49.800
was amazing to me. You know, the skills, uh, the perishable

827
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:54.199
skills that you have to come you
know, all of the tasks. I

828
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:58.400
remember when Pat was studying for lieutenant
and I'm like, what the And he

829
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.480
had a pile about the books and
I was like, so what are you

830
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:04.599
What are you responsible for on the
test? He said everything? And I

831
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.119
was like, how are you gonna
like get that amount of material into your

832
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.320
head? And then there's captains and
you know, all these tests. Um,

833
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:15.039
so you got to respect. You
know, people want somebody knowledgeable and

834
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:20.320
you know, uh, you dial
nine one one in this country, somebody's

835
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:22.320
coming. You don't want them to
be a schnook. You want them to

836
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:28.719
know what he's doing? Yeah,
how did the how does Hollywood you know?

837
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:30.320
I mean, I'm sure most of
the people know that you're a five

838
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:34.760
and right. How does that play
out with them? Do they how do

839
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:40.000
they react to that? DoD they
say anything? Or was it? Uh?

840
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:45.639
Yeah, you know that's a hard
question. And some just yes and

841
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:46.840
no. You know what I mean. If they know, they know,

842
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.920
if they want to ask something,
they can ask. Um. There was

843
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.360
a couple of mornings on different jobs
where I went to work the night before,

844
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.360
let's say, and you know,
didn't get any sleep. So answer

845
01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.039
like the answer to the question is
somebody and their money's worth that? At

846
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:06.599
me? The next time? Uh, you know, on on rescue me.

847
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:08.000
A couple of times it's like you
got a fireplace at home, you

848
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:15.360
smell like shit and um uh there
And you know it was inevitable my wife,

849
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:17.280
something big would be coming up.
I'd be leaving for Ireland, I'd

850
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:21.599
believe, and we'd always get you
know, banged out. Yea. And

851
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.599
I remember once I came home from
Africa. I was there for months and

852
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:29.320
I didn't sleep. I'm gonna get
turned around. I haven't been asleeping forty

853
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:34.719
eight hours you know, boom,
that's when you're gonna go. So uh

854
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:37.400
uh. But here it's very you
know, it's it's modest, it's straightforward.

855
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:43.079
Um. Uh, you're just doing
for your community. Uh. We

856
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.519
have very good, dedicated members in
the Ocean Beach Fire Department. And you

857
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:50.559
know, everybody I think tries their
best. Uh. You're coming to a

858
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:54.960
place where you're supposed to be vacationing
and yet you're giving your time and your

859
01:01:55.079 --> 01:02:00.280
energy to doing this. And so
it's that's impressive to me. How are

860
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:01.719
you guys doing with getting new members? Like you got a lot of young

861
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:05.559
guys coming in. Yeah, it's
tight right. Um. You know it's

862
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:09.400
funny because we have one particular young
man I'm thinking about. This guy is

863
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.960
just a home run, you know, like I would send them to a

864
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.679
truck company on you a job tomorrow. He's just one of those hits,

865
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:20.159
Like he's a nineteen forties throwback.
He just gets it and he doesn't really

866
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:25.880
talk too much to me. Perfect
he just out shut and get to work.

867
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:30.599
I stepped aside his captain just to
leave a spot, and he got

868
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:35.079
voted up. And so he's a
great young guy. But the numbers are

869
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.800
bad. And then it's not like
you got to spoon feed them to keep

870
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:40.679
them. But you shouldn't. You
should talk nice to them. You know.

871
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:44.880
It's like, um, it's a
whole new you guys know, it's

872
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:50.039
a whole world. And you know, I've decided I have adjectives. I

873
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:53.239
don't have pronouns. I have adjectives. I smart, funny, as fucking

874
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:59.559
good. Look at that. That's
a common denominator across the country. Though,

875
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.599
that they're not getting to people,
they're not getting I think a lot

876
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.719
of it, too, is the
fire training. A lot of it is.

877
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:08.320
You know, Johnny doesn't want to
go to college. He wants to

878
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:10.639
stay in his town. He's going
to be a mechanic. He's gonna make

879
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:15.480
a good living. But now he's
gonna go to a firefighter one. You

880
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:19.280
know what I mean. It's a
lot of classrooms. So he wasn't counting

881
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:22.000
on that, you know. And
I think they lose a lot of guys.

882
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.159
Uh. I think you should be
trained for what your district holds,

883
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:30.159
you know what I mean. And
then some obviously, but and then osha

884
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:34.280
fhi mahomeless and everybody's piling on if
you break your fingernail, they're gonna send

885
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.400
you for nine hours on how not
to break your fingernail. You know.

886
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:45.639
Um kind of fire service, Yeah, absolutely, the fire service, the

887
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.280
jettler kind of fire yes, yeah, kind of gentler. Yeah, how

888
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:55.239
did you adapt to the firehouse kitchen
table when you when you first went to

889
01:03:55.280 --> 01:04:00.599
the fire apart? They're because you
know and that you have to realize that

890
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:02.760
that doesn't translate to everyday people,
right, So you have to leave that

891
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.440
in the flyhouse, like with your
other job. Because my wife tells me

892
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:11.360
all the time you're not in the
fly house, that that that's not funny

893
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.960
here, you know. So yeah, I'm sure you have to leave that

894
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.880
in the firehouse. You can't bring
that to you know, the Hollywood scene,

895
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.119
right because they won't get it.
Bro I'm a volley. I could

896
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:26.480
bring it anywhere. I could pitch
it moan like, you can't be believe

897
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.440
um, you know with me,
it's a funny thing because when I started,

898
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:34.119
uh, we go on like benign
you know, down power lines,

899
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:39.039
order or gas this that the other
and the homeowner to be looking at us

900
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:47.039
coming in and be like that's the
guy from special thing. You know you

901
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:53.079
don't talk. If you don't talk
to them, then you're a shnook.

902
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.320
You know, used to ye oh
hello, yes, oh hello, you

903
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.719
know, yes I live here and
yes you know. So then you have

904
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.360
FI him and other members going,
you know, what are you back there?

905
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:04.400
Your bullshit? And now we're twenty
minutes. Guy said, well,

906
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:08.880
you were the one who told them
that that was me. So now we

907
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:11.360
have a thing. It's a kind
of a goat to uh. You know,

908
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:13.519
it's like, hey, this isn't
that the guy from It's like noah,

909
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:17.559
no, no, no, he
looks like them, looks like brother.

910
01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:21.960
So I'm a good wrap it up. Yeah, God, let's look

911
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:25.880
at some of those fire photos.
This guy goes some fire out there.

912
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:27.800
Bro, all right, we got
this. This is a good one.

913
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:32.159
Here. Give us a little description
on this one, Bob. But I'm

914
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.159
pretty sure that was a nor easter. There was sixty eight mile an hour

915
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:40.239
winds. We were called in as
uh oh No, that was in our

916
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:45.599
district. That was the east end
uh in a town called Ocean Bay Park.

917
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:49.719
It was a particularly bad fire because
of the you know, we all

918
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:54.000
had embers fall on our heads.
But very rarely do I get them smacking

919
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:58.719
me at fifty miles an hour.
Uh So I was down when to that

920
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:03.280
one we held the exposure. Uh, we had shitty water because everybody north

921
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:06.880
and up wind of the fire was
killing it, you know, and I

922
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:12.800
was asking for some of those elements
to shut down that that would inform our

923
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:19.079
pressure. They were thief and water. Right here was another one. That's

924
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:25.559
the one that Monto gave you the
heads up on right right binoculars. Um,

925
01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:30.400
yeah, that's one structure that the
exposure is starting to uh to go.

926
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:34.519
Uh. I had a two and
a half in stretch. I responded

927
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:40.320
from my home to that fireground.
I actually I used to do that back

928
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:44.599
of the day. Nobody really bothered
me. Um, but we've I've since

929
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:47.719
curtailed that type. I had gear
at home. Um so. Uh.

930
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.880
That is in a town called Fair
Harbor. We were coming as mutual aid

931
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:57.360
actually Fair Hub. It's funny because
my my family friend house burned down.

932
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:00.559
I think the same picture. It
almost burnt his house down was right next

933
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:02.159
stoor their housetown next store. Was
crazy. Oh, I think that's the

934
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:06.400
house that look it might be because
like I tell you, when it goes

935
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:11.119
here, it goes awfully goes.
They have those big a problems. They

936
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.760
have access problems there because it's a
boardwalk that cuts through most of those houses

937
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:17.400
and then you ain't getting yeah down
there. So all right. I tried

938
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:24.119
to implement last year was the minute
man with two hundred or three hundred footloads

939
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:28.199
you just take off if you want
it would call a deck bag. It's

940
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:32.679
an inch of three quarter another bunch
of lengths you can connect quick. Everything

941
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:36.639
is speed speed speed speed. And
at nighttime it's dark as hell out here.

942
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:41.880
Lots of times you're operating in sand. Like I said, you're gonna

943
01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:46.760
get a large volume of fire for
a good couple of minutes, and as

944
01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:54.039
they say, every fire eventually burns
itself out. But you know, basically

945
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:59.559
it's uh relay operations. Should you
have a bad hydrant or bad water and

946
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:03.000
then quick water, short man,
get it stretched, knock it down,

947
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:09.480
um and exposure. How does the
wife feel about you being a five?

948
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.480
And like did she ever say and
you're like, listen, no, we're

949
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:14.559
good dude. You know you don't
really got to do this. If somebody

950
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:16.439
says something to her like meat turn
and says, oh your fucking husband,

951
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:20.319
you know, it's like then I'm
like, then I have a problem.

952
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:25.640
You know. Um, I can't
even say what she says. Um,

953
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.880
No, she knows. She knows
my relationship with Pat, she knows my

954
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:32.840
fire service is all dedicated to his
memory. Um, you know too,

955
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:41.039
I about I. Uh, I
don't know. I I it's a very

956
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:44.560
hard thing to say. You know. It's like I got Uh. It

957
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.279
seemed to me to be the next
right thing to do. Do you know

958
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:50.399
what I mean to take up?
Because why should it be Jim and Joe?

959
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:54.600
And you know why I'm here.
I'm able bodied. Let it be.

960
01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:59.279
It's the way our country started.
Uh, sixty five seventy percent of

961
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:02.760
the country of all these Uh.
Guy said to me a couple of well,

962
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:06.079
all firement of volumes, So just
get paid. I'm like, okay,

963
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:12.039
you but uh, but you know
there's great truth in it. And

964
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.000
you know, uh, sometimes you
get frustrated with you know, people's level

965
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:20.680
of commitment or or able bodiedness or
but you know, listen, people turn

966
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:25.079
out, they turn out. Everybody
has their place, and you just hope

967
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:28.399
nobody gets hurt because that can happen. Then fire here can kill you just

968
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:33.079
as quick as it doesn't. It's
impervious. It doesn't care. And and

969
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.920
here you just like if you push, Like, we had a fire,

970
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:42.039
uh, you know, two different
fires a block away from each other.

971
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:45.079
One was extremely dangerous, but not
a large body of fire. They went

972
01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:47.800
in the back of the house into
the kitchen because they saw the smoke.

973
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:53.680
I go in the camera's work and
there's a charge line ready. Everything in

974
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:59.000
the kitchen is melted, the stove, the microwave, it's hot, and

975
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.359
I go, there's no fire here, get the fun So we rededicate the

976
01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:04.560
line out the front door. Take
the front door. The fire is underneath

977
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:09.199
the stairway. It's been burning for
hours. Apparently the Wayne Scott in this

978
01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.800
house was so thick that it was
holding it. Yeah, it was holding

979
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.239
it. So it was burning enough
three stories. We knocked the fire down

980
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:17.600
at the bottom of the stairs and
then we work we have good stairs.

981
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:21.359
We work our way up the three
stories and then we're pulling ceilings as we

982
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:24.920
go. Um. So that was
a dangerous fight. And then there was

983
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:28.720
another fire was a large volume of
fire. But we're outside. It's an

984
01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:31.640
exterior operation. It's like, just
nobody get hurt, nobody tripped, nobody

985
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:34.359
fall, nobody, You know,
because you're not going into this thing.

986
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:40.760
You know there's there's nobody in the
house. Um, yeah, absolutely,

987
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:43.680
And you know what, that's all
I say. Yeah, I'll tell you

988
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:48.600
the first thing about Patty Brown h
the first fire I ever pushed. I

989
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:53.600
was a couple of months two things. I was a couple of months out

990
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:58.159
of the School of the Training Academy
and we got a call and it's it's

991
01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:00.720
really you know, it's a residential
structure, a single family and uh,

992
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:04.359
but it's blown out a couple of
windows. And he is Billy Goldfetter,

993
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:12.119
who comes out here to vacation and
he's like this, you know, and

994
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:15.640
I'm telling you And I said,
hey, chief, how are you doing

995
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:19.560
it? And he was a seminar. The next day he goes, how

996
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:24.960
are you doing? And I'm faking
up the first line and uh, And

997
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:30.000
I said to him, a little
performance pressure. Under pressure goes, I'll

998
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:33.000
get the funk out of here.
If so, I don't think we have

999
01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:38.479
to back up. But it's really
banking down. It's very hot. Now.

1000
01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:41.800
I'm like, twenty seconds later,
I think maybe I won't push this.

1001
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:45.079
This is my first push. And
I remember masking up and I remember

1002
01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:50.119
thinking I didn't sign on for this, And then I remember Patty Brown's voice

1003
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:53.760
came with. He goes, this
is exactly what you fucking signed on for.

1004
01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.600
Yea, you know, and I
thought, oh shit, So now

1005
01:11:56.640 --> 01:12:00.159
down we go. We operate for
maybe three four minutes, knocking down.

1006
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:03.880
It's it's all good, and you
know, uh so yeah, golfing.

1007
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:06.840
I was there at my first fire, and then the next day he gives

1008
01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:15.079
the seminary very aggressive a tackle,
you know, but it is what it

1009
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.159
is. You're doing for your community, and you're just hoping nobody gets home.

1010
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:21.880
And you know, again, the
only thing I did at that far

1011
01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:26.079
was what what I was trained to
do. Do you know what I mean?

1012
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:30.479
Mask up properly, size up properly. I looked at a guy who

1013
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:32.680
was a beautiful member of our department. He could fart and get your watered,

1014
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:36.560
this guy, and uh, and
so we were ready to go.

1015
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:40.479
Now you just got to do what
you were trained to do. And uh

1016
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:43.479
it's funny because you're an actor.
You're like, how did I get here?

1017
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:47.239
But at the same time, uh, you know, then you get

1018
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:49.680
a little bit of the bug and
you say to yourself, Okay, this

1019
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:56.000
can be done. Safely, you
can be done assertively and um so then

1020
01:12:56.039 --> 01:12:59.159
my wife says to me, why
you do like what what I says?

1021
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:01.239
Well, if I it and we
didn't operate like that, we'd be putting

1022
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:05.000
out half to half to get better, to go to work for hard for

1023
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:09.760
a few minutes and see what you
accomplished it is. I mean, you

1024
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:12.079
start doing it if you, like
you said, if you get the mug.

1025
01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:14.600
I mean, I was just gonna
ask you I was doing it.

1026
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:17.880
I would do anything else. There's
nothing else I would rather do it.

1027
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:20.960
And that's what I was just gonna
ask you, other than doing it because

1028
01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:26.920
you know Patty's you know influence.
Do you enjoy doing it? Is that?

1029
01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:30.880
Do you? I like the training. I like drilling. I like

1030
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:35.920
learning new stuff. I like being
successful. When I started the fire service

1031
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:39.640
training, I was forty one years
old. I did not want to be

1032
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:42.520
unsuccessful at things. I'm tucking forty
one, bro, I know how to

1033
01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:44.840
do this. I didn't know how
to do it, you know what I

1034
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:46.000
mean? And that was like a
weird feeling, you know what I mean.

1035
01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:49.960
I'm not a mechanical person. Um
I'm six, I'll be sixty three

1036
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:51.680
years old. They're like, well, you're gonna start, you know,

1037
01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:55.520
being a show for them, Like
you don't want me trying to get water?

1038
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.600
And I know my limitations. I'll
try it. And if some of

1039
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.399
the guys are listening now, they
have proof I said that while I'm still

1040
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:09.039
able bodied. You know, it's
it's it's a weird thing. You can

1041
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:13.319
go to the Fire Academy and you're
doing an evolution and somebody goes, hey

1042
01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:15.279
Bob. One of the instructors,
Hey Joe, and he says, why

1043
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.720
don't you let the young guys take
it? We are the young guys,

1044
01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:21.960
you know. So, uh,
you know, there's no doubt it's a

1045
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:26.159
young manager job. I often wonder, you know, you guys know you

1046
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:31.039
got on jobs where you're operating at
eighty percent to your physical capacity and then

1047
01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:33.960
the fire changes and it calls for
one hundred percent. Now you gotta go

1048
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:36.920
one hundred percent, and then it
costs for one hundred and ten percent,

1049
01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:39.640
you know what I mean. And
you're like, wait a minute, I'm

1050
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.159
going to have a massive heart attack
here if I just keep this. And

1051
01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:45.239
um, so that's why that's another
reason to stay in shape. You know,

1052
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:50.439
you definitely definitely have to be in
shape. You know. You know

1053
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:55.239
what's so funny that you say that
is because when I think back when I

1054
01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:58.600
got on the job, Kevin got
on the job twenty gonzol, twenty three

1055
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:00.880
years old. I got on the
job. There was you could not stop

1056
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.720
me. Right, I would be
the first guy in I was going to

1057
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:06.399
be the first guy in the back
room. I was going to be wherever

1058
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:10.840
nobody was going to be. Right. And then as time got you know,

1059
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:14.680
went on, you know, I
ten years later, after nine to

1060
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:16.760
eleven, I saw guys die.
We had the Father's Day fire, you

1061
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:18.880
know, you know, Kevin was
at the Father's Day Fire. We go

1062
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:21.680
through all the stuff. Guys are
dying all over the place. And then

1063
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:26.720
I become a lieutenant and now I'm
working one of the busiest companies on the

1064
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:29.960
job in New York City, in
Brooklyn, and all of a sudden,

1065
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:30.359
now I'm like, no, no, no, no, hold on one

1066
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:32.079
second, let's not do that whole
hold on a second. You know.

1067
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:38.239
Maybe, and I was still aggressive, but I found myself watching out more

1068
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:42.239
for everybody else except myself. Right, And then towards the end of the

1069
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:45.760
career, I was coming up twenty
six, twenty seven, years even for

1070
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:54.720
myself, like I felt like I
was more concerned, not more concerned,

1071
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:59.079
but I was somewhat concerned about I
don't want to die at the end,

1072
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:00.680
you know what I mean, I
don't want you know, I was still

1073
01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:03.760
aggressive and I was still doing the
job definitely, since you know, my

1074
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:06.680
kids were older now like early on
I had no kids, but now I

1075
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:11.000
got a family. I got kids. But that's on a job. I

1076
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:14.520
was getting paid that I could leave. You're you're not in that, you

1077
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:17.399
know, I say all the time
the volleys. You know, you're sixty

1078
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:21.000
three, You're still I'm not going
to fires anymore, But you're still doing

1079
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:24.920
it and you still, like you
said before, which was the key to

1080
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:30.439
the whole thing, it's a perishable
you know idea. You cannot slow down,

1081
01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:34.960
you cannot stop learning. You cannot
because that one time you don't do

1082
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:38.800
the right thing, it's gonna bite
you in the s and you can get

1083
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:40.840
killed. Just like even when you
do the right thing, you could still

1084
01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:43.199
get killed. But if you're not
learning and keeping up on it, you

1085
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:45.600
could still you're definitely gonna get killed. That was one of the quotes of

1086
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.760
Patti Brown. You can do this
job. Absolutely right way still get killed.

1087
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:54.840
Absolutely. There's a humility that comes
with this job too. I I

1088
01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:59.359
you know, to your point of
being a boss, even you know that

1089
01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:04.520
your member go home, Uh you
know, I mean the responsibility, that's

1090
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:08.439
another skill. How do I you
know, how do I go to sleep

1091
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:12.720
at night knowing that I have the
responsibility to these members in my hands.

1092
01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:16.239
Some people don't think them hout it. Yeah, some people just think to

1093
01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:20.520
awake at night thinking about you know, uh, the building inspection and pre

1094
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:24.920
plan and training and drilling tomorrow.
You know, so you know, you

1095
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:28.119
have to finance it all and make
it smooth and out here. It's like,

1096
01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:32.279
because you never know who's gonna show
up who you're making an assessment very

1097
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:38.239
quickly of what you think you can
accompany. You might if you had you

1098
01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:42.159
know, this member and that member
and this member, you'd really be able

1099
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.840
to But maybe you don't have that
member that night, and you know,

1100
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:47.640
so you have to make an assessment
very quickly. It was I think I've

1101
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:51.039
said this in the show. I
think it was Dan Murphy, Big Murphy

1102
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:56.079
from Rescue two. He had said
to me when I was first promoted,

1103
01:17:56.399 --> 01:18:00.199
and he gave this analogy and it
always stuck with me, he said.

1104
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:05.000
Becoming a boss in the fire service
is like, first you're a fireman.

1105
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:10.520
So the first analogy is you're going
to the beach with your friends, right,

1106
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:14.239
so everybody's kind of on their own, right. You bring your own

1107
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.279
food, your own beer, You
got you cool or your chair. You

1108
01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:17.960
want to go into water, you
go into water. You want to go

1109
01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:19.600
to bathroom, You go to the
bathroom. You want to go take a

1110
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:25.279
nap, You take a nap.
When you get promoted to become a boss,

1111
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:30.319
that's like you going to the beach
with your young kids. Now you're

1112
01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:34.239
like, you got to look out
for the look out for the ripe water

1113
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:38.880
into you need some Tannloh, she's
burning. You need to get some tannlo

1114
01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:43.039
And all of a sudden you're worried. Yeah, everything else you don't eat

1115
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:45.680
the whole day. You get burnt
because you put some tannotion on. You

1116
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:46.840
don't get a nap in, right, I mean, it's just how it

1117
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:51.199
is. And it's that was a
perfect analogy. Like I think it was

1118
01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:56.640
murpht and Rescue too. Yeah,
that is that is plastic, bro.

1119
01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:00.439
Yeah, that is so funny.
Right, you know what about like from

1120
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:04.520
doing this show. I mean,
Louis and I are are FDNY centric,

1121
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:10.159
but from doing this show for the
last three years, we really have gained

1122
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:14.359
a lot of respect for volunteers because
they do it with a hell of a

1123
01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:17.000
lot less and they're doing it on
their own time. Like we go,

1124
01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:20.399
there is the FDY and we'll beat
it out with manpower, right, we'll

1125
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:26.279
just beat the shit out of this. I don't even know. Yeah,

1126
01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:30.520
guys don't know who's showing up,
how many guys are coming, you know

1127
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:35.840
what they're gonna get. It's I've
got newfound respect for volunteers, and this

1128
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:40.640
country is volunteer you know. Yeah, Um, I'll never know what it's

1129
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:43.399
like to have seventy five guys out
in the street, like if they've come

1130
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:47.279
up, they're asking, um,
but uh you know uh. Pat used

1131
01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:50.199
to say it, you know Pat
Brown when he when he live out here

1132
01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:53.159
and he says, well, there
you one thing about this place. He

1133
01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.960
says, if this place gets going
FDN, y ain't coming, you know,

1134
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:02.119
So yeah, I mean it is. I watched Base Show Fire Department

1135
01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:05.760
the other day operate at a turnover, you know, and I'm telling you,

1136
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:13.000
I mean, you know, bang
bang boom. Uh. It all

1137
01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:15.920
depends on the leadership and the commitment, and a lot of times it's it's

1138
01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:23.079
absolutely extraordinary to have somebody from your
job who's in your volunteer department. I

1139
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:27.880
know there's a lot of members from
your job who are you know, and

1140
01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:32.319
you exponentially get just such great instruction. We had a member from your job

1141
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:36.439
who was a chief of ours at
one time. So you just you know,

1142
01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:43.199
you want to conduct yourself as as
you know, as professionally as possible

1143
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:46.079
and get the job done because again, you know, uh, you can't

1144
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:49.680
say well, you know, you
know, uh, Jimmy's a florist in

1145
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:53.119
real life. He didn't really know
how to take a doy. Yeah,

1146
01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:58.319
you can't expect him to take a
doy. You know, it's like fu

1147
01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:00.960
kidding me, you know what.
I didn't want flowers. I wanted to

1148
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:08.720
do so anyway, I never thought
about that. The chief person at Blockbuster

1149
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:12.239
the full time and now he's the
chief, well that was like saying private

1150
01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:14.640
Ryan, right, he was a
teacher or something. He was the captain

1151
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:19.399
and the crew. I never thought
about that. Yeah, I don't say

1152
01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:25.680
if it don't be act, I
can do it. Hey, the guy

1153
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:28.560
with the nozzle. He was in
the Yeah, yeah, he was a

1154
01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:39.079
toomstone. He took a shot that
I asked that robot copy. I've always

1155
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:42.760
been actually very grateful that I got
to see this part of life and have

1156
01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.880
this service. A lot of people, you know, they want to help

1157
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:47.279
and they want to do something.
Nobody knows what to do, do,

1158
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:49.800
you know what I mean? And
everybody talks a pretty good game, and

1159
01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:54.640
they had very good intentions. But
to have come to that point in my

1160
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.600
life and be able body to be
able to do it was really an honor.

1161
01:21:57.720 --> 01:22:00.479
And I was very happy and and
and it's never lost on me,

1162
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:03.560
you know what I mean. It
was a wonderful saying I just saw recently.

1163
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:06.319
It says, you know, uh, the fire Service is one of

1164
01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:12.159
the last honorable bastions in this country. One of us represents all of us.

1165
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.760
Act accordingly, and I you know, I I subscribe to that very

1166
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:19.319
much, Act accordingly, you know
what I mean? And um, and

1167
01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:23.760
just knowing getting to know like again, baseball players, football, dinner,

1168
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:28.720
fucking nobody. Oh you're an actor, Oh yeah yeah, but meeting guys

1169
01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:31.439
from you a job, it's just
very strange. It's a different. Um,

1170
01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:35.319
Uh, like a different context.
You shake a guy's hand who went

1171
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:39.880
to work in the nineteen sixties and
seventies, Oh my god, it's like,

1172
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:42.720
oh shit. You know, it's
like this guy is saying at the

1173
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:45.520
gym and eating granola, he fucking
went to work. You know. He

1174
01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:51.319
absolutely questioned like a bug. So
that's fascinating to me, that type of

1175
01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:56.479
Uh. We do this show because
we get to talk to these guys.

1176
01:22:56.960 --> 01:23:02.119
Listening. Listening to these guys,
I can't even That's why I'm sitting there

1177
01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:04.600
to my wife and I I'm like
my stomach arts, and it's like,

1178
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:06.920
what's the matter, Like these guys
want to talk to me. I might

1179
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:11.800
owe one of the money. I
don't know why do want to? So

1180
01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:18.560
said up, But no, I
I take it. I take it seriously.

1181
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.680
The fire service. I try not
to take myself very seriously, but

1182
01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:26.359
um, but I take I take
it seriously. I do. And I

1183
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:29.960
would leave that for the other members
to say about me, um and my

1184
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:33.359
service. Uh I hope. I
I take it seriously and have been you

1185
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:35.960
know, good to the new members
and always trying to you know, train

1186
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:41.399
them up as well as possible,
and you know, I give them every

1187
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:45.680
edge you know because pre sued.
You know, a lot of us age

1188
01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:48.239
out and it's a really hard thing. I don't even know how guys from

1189
01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:51.760
your job, I you know when
they say things like they taught me everything

1190
01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:55.439
except had to retire, you know
what I mean, I can I can

1191
01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:59.760
understand the gap. The you know, people in the military say, but

1192
01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:02.159
you know, he might have one
tour or two tours. Uh, not

1193
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:06.239
even come into the life in that
situations that you guys have. So it's

1194
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:12.600
really just um uh again, like
with the military. In the fire service,

1195
01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:15.079
you know, you guys have that
careers twenty thirty, you know,

1196
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:20.920
thirty nine, forty one years,
you don't find. You might find.

1197
01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:31.319
My brother just retired with forty five
years five yeah, but retire out of

1198
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:36.000
it was a deputy chief in the
forty eighth division. Yeah wow. And

1199
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:40.439
he has the same the same act. Accordingly, that's one of his biggest

1200
01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:45.199
act. Like a professional, he
says all the time. Just be a

1201
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:50.159
professional. Drives me nuts. Yeah, you know, guy, opened up,

1202
01:24:50.359 --> 01:24:54.479
guy, you know, not paying
attention. You know, it's like

1203
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:58.399
a dog. You know, it's
like you look at that where your box

1204
01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:00.399
is, where your addresses. You
never take your eyes off of it,

1205
01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:05.079
and and but Burke, it's just
an automatic fire on. It doesn't matter

1206
01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:09.960
because someday it won't be and you'll
you'll you'll need that focus. So there's

1207
01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:13.520
just these little things in the culture
that are i think getting lost because if

1208
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:15.920
you start talking culture with people,
they don't want to hear that part of

1209
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:18.800
that. But that's the glue.
I think um that there's no doubt about

1210
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:23.560
that. Ye holds it together.
And you know, I'm not a buff

1211
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.720
per se. I wouldn't say I'm
a buff, but I'm fascinated by it

1212
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:30.079
and I'm very interested in it.
You know, you see guys like Stockton

1213
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:36.079
or Gary or Baltimore going to work. This is h I'm always uh pointing

1214
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:40.239
this out there. He's got,
you know, Detroit, this one account

1215
01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:43.760
on on and these guys are like
I'll tell you, they're one pace and

1216
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:50.960
they're getting the job done. Nobody's
running around like scream. You know,

1217
01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:55.119
Uh, Bob, I saw a
video. I think we've had a few

1218
01:25:55.159 --> 01:26:00.720
Detroit guys on that were absolutely incredible
in their seventies incredible. There was a

1219
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:02.680
video of a guy and I've said
this on the show where it's I think

1220
01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:06.720
it's taken from a cross the street, like from the roof looking down,

1221
01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:12.399
and it's a brick building. The
whole this fire out every window. There's

1222
01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:14.720
no buildings on the side of it. It's got to be eighty feet deep,

1223
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:18.199
the whole first floor. This fire
out, ten windows on both sides.

1224
01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:23.439
The guy exactly what you said.
He takes the line off. He

1225
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:27.000
gets up to the front door and
there's like a you know, ap plywood

1226
01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:30.479
there. He's by himself, Wow, by himself. The guy's coming around

1227
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:35.800
pumping you know, it comes the
water, pries off to call the the

1228
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:41.199
plywood. You see him, you
know, just test it, gets down,

1229
01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:43.920
puts his mask on, like you
said, a whole hump thing.

1230
01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:47.520
All of a sudden, you see
the first two windows, white smoke coming

1231
01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:51.880
out. Fire coming out there,
white smoke coming out. The guy goes

1232
01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:58.600
to eighty feet he goes all the
way to the back like he was by

1233
01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:00.840
himself. I mean, got another
cup. But he shows up. You

1234
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:02.479
know, a couple guys get off
and they get up on a line probably,

1235
01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:08.199
but I mean to start out by
yourself, like like you said.

1236
01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:11.800
But that's a guy who's been doing
that consistently. It speaks to the volume

1237
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:13.640
of work they're getting to do.
Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean

1238
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:15.760
no doubt. That's the other thing
that freaks me out sometimes, you know,

1239
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:18.760
when you say things like you know, I'm not even gonna say it,

1240
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:21.920
but when you don't go to work
a lot, you know, that

1241
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:25.319
can freak you out too. Yeah, freaks me. Yeah, it freaks

1242
01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:28.000
me out because I'm always like in
my head, that's why you need the

1243
01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:30.720
old guys to talk about stuff,
and you have to drill about stuff.

1244
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:32.520
And you know, you know,
listen, that's like that in the FDNY

1245
01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:35.159
two. You know you're not goingifies
every day either. So I love the

1246
01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:38.640
concept and I use it in my
life, the little things, you know

1247
01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:41.479
what I mean, Like you know, your gear, your personal gear,

1248
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.319
and and and I try to explain, you know, you have to have

1249
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:47.359
your shit together because it's ten seconds
here and fifteen seconds there and twenty seconds

1250
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.760
you're gonna need that forty five seconds
later, you know what I mean?

1251
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:58.960
The you know, life saver,
life saver. Absolutely, guys. I

1252
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:02.720
wanted to talk about the helmet.
If very anything, I don't want to

1253
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.960
make sure we talk about that.
Throw it up there, got ontopotamus,

1254
01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:15.239
it's it's coming, brother, yes, tell us about this. So um

1255
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:24.359
we uh we uh. So we
found Pat Brown and we um as per

1256
01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:28.319
Pat's wishes. He wanted to be
cremated, he wanted his ashes spreading Central

1257
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:30.560
Park, and you know, the
three truck guys, they took it a

1258
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:35.079
little farther. We went into Central
Park one night, two o'clock in the

1259
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:40.560
morning. We planted like a twenty
eight foot maple tree and we had a

1260
01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:44.399
headstone, like a stone it said, you know, Captain Patrick Brown and

1261
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:47.039
this and that and everything. And
so anyway, the park, the parks,

1262
01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:50.000
you know, the precinct called us
next day, so get all the

1263
01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:53.800
shit out of here. You can't
play the trees in the middle of thin

1264
01:28:55.640 --> 01:28:59.239
But I'll tell you we had.
There was Dateline NBC with us and the

1265
01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.640
poor night manager comes around and he
sees twenty guys and he goes, can

1266
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:05.880
I help you. I'm not kn't
go. I still feel like I'm gonna

1267
01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:09.439
get somebody in trouble. But they
said, oh, you didn't get the

1268
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:12.359
memo. Yeah we got. We
got permission to plant the tree here.

1269
01:29:12.359 --> 01:29:15.039
And he goes, you know,
he's it's like two o'clock in the morning

1270
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:20.680
and it's fine, and so anyway, he says to the date line NBC,

1271
01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:25.720
guys, let me see the camera. I'd like to say congratulations and

1272
01:29:25.840 --> 01:29:29.520
I love you farm. So we
got him. Anyway, the precinct call

1273
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:30.880
the next day. We had to
get it out of it. So we

1274
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:35.399
went to this bar that three Trucks
used to go to affinities on thirteenth Street,

1275
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:41.159
Third Avenue, and Mike Pat's brother
reaches into his bag and he gives

1276
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:45.159
me Pat's helmet and I'm like what
the He goes, oh, you helped

1277
01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:46.000
with the family, blah blah blah, And I was like, I'm not

1278
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:48.880
taking this. Oh, yes you
are. And it's like six o'clock in

1279
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:53.000
the morning. I'm like, okay, Michael, thank you guys. So

1280
01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:56.399
anyway, I brought it back to
three truck and we put it up on

1281
01:29:56.439 --> 01:29:59.600
the wall. And then like two
weeks later, I get a box it's

1282
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:01.119
the helm, and again I sent
it back. They sent it back to

1283
01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:04.039
me. I says, I'm not
taking it. I don't it's not no

1284
01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:09.960
place in my house. But ultimately
it wasn't my house for months until the

1285
01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:14.439
nine to eleven Museum called and they
said, we understand you have Pat Brown's

1286
01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:16.680
helme and I said yes. So
they said we'd like to display it with

1287
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:19.800
the three truck rig and I said, let me get back to you.

1288
01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:24.680
So I call I suppose Mike Moran
was the senior man, and I said,

1289
01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.279
uh, listen, they want this
helmet next to the three truck rig.

1290
01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:30.520
But I don't want to give it
because I don't want to take thunder

1291
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:31.880
away from anybody else, you know. I goes, oh, no,

1292
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:33.920
no, there's gonna be this.
There's gonna I said, are you sure?

1293
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:39.119
He says yeah. So I got
downtown and I there was like a

1294
01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:43.399
hundred pages, you know, on
loan in perpetuity to the I says,

1295
01:30:43.439 --> 01:30:45.319
take it. I don't have to
sign anything. So they put it on

1296
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:49.640
They put it on display there.
I think it says something like from Robert

1297
01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:55.319
Burkin family and from the Brown family. And that's how I was very happy,

1298
01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:58.079
because that's where it should be.
Yeah, yeah, no doubt happy

1299
01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:02.880
that it found its way there.
That's awesome. Uh. Cons Before we

1300
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:08.159
move any further, let's um do
all the photos of the of the big

1301
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:12.520
celebrities that have come down to UH, and we'll talk about the h I

1302
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:15.319
thought, yeah, yeah, okay, ready, here you go. Good

1303
01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:20.960
yeah, we're starting with the good
one. Oh she's not hot on the

1304
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:29.079
eyes. My my be my girlfriend
on television. That's right, you're the

1305
01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:31.800
i G guy. Right, you
guys had an internal fairs guy and uh,

1306
01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:34.960
a bunch of years ago, she
said to me when she grabbed me

1307
01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:40.000
by the face and she's like,
look at the space, And I said,

1308
01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:41.840
what are you doing? And she
goes, You're gonna be my love

1309
01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:44.640
interest? And I go, I'm
the most hated character on the show.

1310
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:47.319
How is that? And she goes, no, it'll work, it'll work.

1311
01:31:47.399 --> 01:31:51.000
And so we think, you know, I think Iced Tea said something

1312
01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:55.920
like that, it's gonna be a
slow boat to turn around. But anyway,

1313
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:02.600
great line. Oh yeah, so
anyway, yeah, they you know,

1314
01:32:03.039 --> 01:32:08.880
uh Ed Tucker, the internal affairs
guy, and uh you know Olivia

1315
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:13.119
Benson. Uh we became uh you
know, boyfriend and girlfriend on the show.

1316
01:32:13.640 --> 01:32:16.119
She's I can't say enough for this
one. I mean she is just

1317
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:23.399
she's the force of nature. Uh
Murska Hargete And so they mother and father

1318
01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:30.560
were Mickey Hargete and James Man.
James Yeah, um um uh so.

1319
01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:36.199
Uh so Dennis would invite her to
the academy to the rock each year since

1320
01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:39.720
he's been doing it, and the
schedules and everything. But this year she

1321
01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:43.000
showed up and uh she did everything. I think she pushed the line.

1322
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:47.239
She really propelled off the six stories. Um, you know, she was

1323
01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:50.439
cutting cause putting out car fire.
So she had a ball. She was

1324
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:55.319
yeah, and she is like,
you know, her right ankle is like

1325
01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:58.319
ace hardware, right, I mean
it's got like six or seven screws in

1326
01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:00.920
there, and you know she's got
But she did everything. She was she

1327
01:33:01.079 --> 01:33:03.880
was all about it. So it
was great to see her. Big boost

1328
01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:08.119
to the guys, and yeah,
it was. It was great for shore.

1329
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:14.000
Well she got here. Oh we
know that guy. He was a

1330
01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:19.800
fireman too, fifty five engine Yeah, I can never say that ship.

1331
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:27.319
No God was a lieutenant in quant
Oh no kay, Yeah, great guy.

1332
01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:30.239
I saw him down at the side
of the World Trade Center. We

1333
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:33.119
were going in with elements of three
truck and I hear, hey, hey,

1334
01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:38.000
hey, and and and and I
go hey, how are you doing?

1335
01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:39.800
And he goes good, how are
you doing? I said good?

1336
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:43.680
And you kind of kept up with
your group and uh he said to he

1337
01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:51.439
went through Proby school with John Moran. Uh uh yeah. Uh so Mike

1338
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:55.920
Moran goes to He goes, SHEMI
wants to know if you're a fucking actor

1339
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:59.840
who became a fireman or a fireman
who became an actor. Oh. I

1340
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:02.439
I wasn't a volley then at all. I was just uh went down with

1341
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:09.960
three trucks. He's a great guy
that you're in touch with him still at

1342
01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:15.079
the thing. At the thing,
he's very involved with friends of firefighters,

1343
01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:19.560
I believe. Yeah, sh how
did I get on here anyway? To

1344
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:21.880
tell you the truth? How did
you get on? Yeh? When I

1345
01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:27.800
was in Indianapolis, you had cheats, gave well, he wouldn't give me

1346
01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:31.560
your number. He said he was
from fire Island, so as uh so

1347
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:34.319
Robert Park He goes, yeah,
he goes, I can't give him you

1348
01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:38.199
on you know, I can't give
you his number. Yeah, but I

1349
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:41.359
can give me your number. And
he gave you. He just gave Jeremy

1350
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:50.199
the number right before you. And
then yeah, he's on his game tonight,

1351
01:34:50.439 --> 01:35:03.960
bro get out of their coops.
I was that guy. Jeff Bezos.

1352
01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:09.960
His brother Mark was actually honored by
the FDNY Foundation. Uh, these

1353
01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:13.119
guys, are you have no idea? How generously on to f D n

1354
01:35:13.239 --> 01:35:17.479
Y and the FDNY Foundation. Uh, Mark is a is a captain in

1355
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:20.600
Scarsdale. Uh, say what you
want. The guy gets out of bed

1356
01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:26.359
the middle of knife with strangers as
a volley. Um, Jeff came.

1357
01:35:26.720 --> 01:35:30.680
Uh, dudes in fantastic shape.
Nothing seemed to bother him. Pushed lines.

1358
01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:34.840
Uh uh you know, brought bundles
up. A couple of them went

1359
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:40.239
to work. Uh so yeah,
quiet hot? Did he bring any hot

1360
01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:43.920
babes? They just got engaged.
They was saying, right, yeah,

1361
01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:46.439
I think somebody's mentioned that to Mike. Was saying, oh, Mike said

1362
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:54.439
that right? Good good? Yeah, so guy, you'd good good?

1363
01:35:55.239 --> 01:36:04.720
You want got that one? Good
for you? Yeah, guy, I

1364
01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:17.680
don't think I have that one doing
back then my face, hurch you got

1365
01:36:17.680 --> 01:36:20.600
another one? I got one more. I got this last guy right here?

1366
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:25.760
Who is that guy? Did no
commissioner in the NFL. Another guy

1367
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:29.920
all about it, suited up,
geared up, push lines. Did every

1368
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:33.920
test that was presented to him.
I think this was last year. Uh

1369
01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:38.600
two thousand and twenty two said he
was a real deal too, right,

1370
01:36:38.640 --> 01:36:43.399
He wasn't no real deal, no
bullshit, made no fuss. Um.

1371
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:45.880
Yeah, and you know, here's
the thing. Showed up. You know

1372
01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:48.600
what I mean, it's like,
oh, you're gonna be fire fighting.

1373
01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:53.000
Has no idea what he's gonna be
doing, and nobody you know, he's

1374
01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:58.199
hanging off a rope. Like you
said before, he doesn't have to do

1375
01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:00.319
that. You didn't have to do
it. And I'm sure you know,

1376
01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.000
Uh, he was very generous in
other respects. I think they have to

1377
01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:09.039
pay X amount of money to even
well maybe some are invited, but there

1378
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:12.720
are other corporations that pay. You
know, I don't even know which corporations.

1379
01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:17.720
Forward I know sends a contingent of
people. Uh. Other corporations send

1380
01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:21.880
the executives. They pay money that
these executives come and and and join in

1381
01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:28.199
in the day. It happens every
year in May fifth or the first Friday

1382
01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:32.439
of May. So you just you
just just recently what we had Marishka Hargetell,

1383
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:39.319
we had um Steve Bishemy, Billy
krut Up, Rachel Ray makes the

1384
01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:42.640
breakfast, makes the lunch, makes
them. Yeah, forget about it.

1385
01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.840
I have video tape of her,
you know, uh, going off the

1386
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.760
roof, you know, even being
lower down. I said it was one

1387
01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:51.960
of my guys from my department.
I bring a couple of my members with

1388
01:37:53.119 --> 01:37:55.560
me. Um, and I said, whatever you do. If I mean,

1389
01:37:55.600 --> 01:38:00.399
don't drop her, I'll please Jesus. But uh so anyway, Yeah,

1390
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:04.960
she was great and m John Slattery
um, uh, Julianna Margali's uh.

1391
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:10.279
Michael J. Fox, Um,
Michael J. Fox real, l

1392
01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:14.319
J. Fox. Yeah, you
know Uh, Adam Ferrara, Uh,

1393
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:18.079
Lenny Clark, John Skurty, Wow. A lot of a lot of a

1394
01:38:18.159 --> 01:38:25.159
lot of you know, um,
some heavy hitters Nis Leary's crew show up

1395
01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:28.479
to support, and you know,
a lot a lot of times I think

1396
01:38:28.520 --> 01:38:30.760
they get a little intimidated. They
don't want to show. You know.

1397
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:32.720
It's like, well, can't I
just write a check and get a drink

1398
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:39.520
and some more dirvs? Not today? Yeah, it's great. It's talk

1399
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:42.640
about it all the time, like
all guys. I've heard a lot about

1400
01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:45.479
that. Yeah, And I get
to see guys on your job that I've

1401
01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:47.760
known over the years, and it's
always nice to catch up with people.

1402
01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:51.079
And um, who else out dan
who you got? Oh? Well,

1403
01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:54.279
there was a great friend of mine. I'll tell you a story. Dennis

1404
01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:58.000
Leary calls me once. Uh he
Uh, he's across the street from my

1405
01:38:58.079 --> 01:39:00.720
house on the Upper West Side and
he goes, I'm having dinner with some

1406
01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:02.279
fireman. Come over. I come
over. There's some guy looking at me

1407
01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:04.840
the whole dinner. He looks like
a pirate. I'm like, and he

1408
01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:08.000
goes to me. You go by, Bobby? I said yeah. He

1409
01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:09.840
goes, you got a twin brother, Billy. I said, yeah,

1410
01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:12.439
you as your parents are from.
What are you writing a fucking book?

1411
01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:15.520
And he goes, it's me Eddie
And I go Eddie. He goes Eddie

1412
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:18.199
me and he was a lieutenant the
twenty two truck. And I said,

1413
01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:21.159
oh shit, Eddie, how are
you? And uh, I've heard that.

1414
01:39:21.520 --> 01:39:25.479
Larry goes, Uh. He goes, do you know every fireman?

1415
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:27.359
And this I said, no,
this guy I grew up with. So

1416
01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:30.479
anyway, his he went moved back
to Ireland for years and then he came

1417
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:35.079
back to America, went on your
job and and I hadn't seen the guy

1418
01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:40.319
and since I was, you know, twelve years old, and so anyway

1419
01:39:40.399 --> 01:39:45.239
he was. He was a storied
guy, very competent, uh fireman and

1420
01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:49.439
uh uh so he was he was
out there. Uh. We used to

1421
01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:53.479
joke nobody could say tactical like Eddie. Me and I'm at a black and

1422
01:39:53.640 --> 01:39:57.079
Back. I go, yeah,
so, uh so he was there,

1423
01:39:57.199 --> 01:40:00.479
he loved it there. He retired
out of twenty two truck I believe.

1424
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:08.039
And uh so he passed away.
Um uh yeah, yeah, his son

1425
01:40:08.199 --> 01:40:14.319
is on the job now, actually
Emmett and uh who was at the uh

1426
01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:18.000
Tommy McGoldrick. You know him.
He's a great guy. He was in

1427
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:21.600
charge of burns out there. Uh
there's a bunch of guys. Uh yeah,

1428
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:27.039
Um, there's a bunch of guys. Uh Um. I'm trying to

1429
01:40:27.119 --> 01:40:32.920
think now. Chief Lama said he
knew you. Oh you know who I'm

1430
01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:39.520
buddies with. And I have my
children who can attest to this. I

1431
01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:43.960
could be in Lows, I could
be in home depot back in Low Johnny

1432
01:40:44.039 --> 01:40:48.560
la Famina. When Johnny, what
are you doing? I was getting pitched.

1433
01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:54.159
He goes, what are you doing? I said, I'm just looking.

1434
01:40:56.359 --> 01:41:00.039
But we would always laugh. We'd
always see each other, all of

1435
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:02.520
those guys you see all the time. He moved to Myrtle Beach. But

1436
01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:08.439
just a great guy. And I
was at a seminar once and some captain

1437
01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:12.479
was talking about being at rescue three
and who was his mentor? The guy

1438
01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:14.960
who was always buttoned up, the
guy who was always turtled up, the

1439
01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.359
guy who was always he was always
right there, right, ready to go

1440
01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:21.920
to work, right, just a
ten percent, John la Femina, And

1441
01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:29.520
I remember calling John says, why
you're becoming more famous than me? So

1442
01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:34.319
anyway, a great guy? Uh
yeah, so uh, different guys,

1443
01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:41.920
um, and then then I see
different guys with with Chief Debonado's uh foundation.

1444
01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:45.560
Kevin Jos was the one I heard
of him, never heard of him,

1445
01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:48.720
Oh you know him? Um.
And he was the one who said

1446
01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:53.560
perishable skills that you know, I
remember when he used that. He used

1447
01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:59.079
that expression. Don't get many credits, don't get a lot of these guys.

1448
01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:00.520
You guys put up the thing that
I was gonna be on tonight.

1449
01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:03.119
My phone blew up. Oh hey, bro, you're gonna be mad.

1450
01:42:05.079 --> 01:42:09.640
I hope you're all having a good
laugh. You're gonna be on with those

1451
01:42:09.720 --> 01:42:24.079
assholes tonight. Jeremy texture come on, I'm good one. I said,

1452
01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:32.439
no, I got nothings. Both
guys who were watching the show texted you,

1453
01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:40.119
you're an ass. I can't I
gotta say, what day, Bob?

1454
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:45.039
Uh? For a guy who's a
Hollywood actor, you sound more like

1455
01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:47.079
a fireman than you do a Hollywood
actor. Well, you know, I

1456
01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:50.960
can drop in and drop out,
do you know what I mean? That's

1457
01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:55.800
not that's not phony, bro,
that's not acting like the way. Just

1458
01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:59.600
your knowledge of the fire service and
how you talk you sound like a fireman.

1459
01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:01.800
Well, it all depends on how
you want to play the game,

1460
01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:05.079
that's all. You know what I
mean. I'm smart enough. My job

1461
01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:08.479
is to hold a mirror up.
Do you know what I mean? When

1462
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:12.399
you're standing around playing the head of
the first Marine division who actually lived and

1463
01:43:12.560 --> 01:43:15.680
it's revered by marines, and like, I'm pissing my pants, I'm like,

1464
01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:19.039
what i want I'm going to do
here? So it's it's when,

1465
01:43:19.359 --> 01:43:23.600
like, like I said, my
first job that I ever pushed, I'm

1466
01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:26.159
like, this is you know,
this is the real thing, and it

1467
01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:29.199
depends on what you want to bring
to it. And I've been awfully lucky

1468
01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:32.439
by virtue of the guys who have
trained me and continue to train me and

1469
01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:38.159
the members I work with, the
people in the whole uh Fire Service.

1470
01:43:38.279 --> 01:43:41.880
It's it's very honorable in this day
and age. Everybody's at each other's throats,

1471
01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:45.079
and you know, if these tones
go I don't ask gender, race,

1472
01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:48.119
create, don't you never you know
what I mean. It's like that,

1473
01:43:48.199 --> 01:43:51.479
it's it's a very pure endeavor to
be a part of in this day

1474
01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:57.840
and age, because everybody's whacking each
other, and so I feel very grateful

1475
01:43:57.880 --> 01:44:01.760
and privileged to be a part of
that and to uh to have had that

1476
01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:04.920
experience in a million years, I
can tell you, a gentleman that I

1477
01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:09.680
would never in a million years thought
I would ever be uh doing this.

1478
01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:14.000
I just never occurred to me,
never occurred to me. And by virtue

1479
01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:16.760
of Patty is this is I keep. This is his uh, this was

1480
01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:24.000
his uh you know, yeah,
it was yeah and and and uh you

1481
01:44:24.079 --> 01:44:27.880
know when you're looking at that guy
looking back at I mean, uh,

1482
01:44:28.079 --> 01:44:31.560
everything is in his uh you know. His brother used to say he would

1483
01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:34.960
have gotten an awful kick up,
Patti, you like talking fire service.

1484
01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:39.279
And I remember how he'd be saying
something like, oh, good job,

1485
01:44:39.319 --> 01:44:41.359
and I'm like what job? He
goes, Oh the job we had in

1486
01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:43.479
Harlem, And I was like,
good job, I said, I'm watching

1487
01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:45.880
the news. Ten families lost their
houses. How is that a good job.

1488
01:44:46.199 --> 01:44:50.079
I didn't make any connection to the
to the speak to anything. He

1489
01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:53.520
goes, well, we put the
fire out, nobody got hurt, and

1490
01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:57.600
I'm like, okay, but um, you know, but there were certain

1491
01:44:57.640 --> 01:45:00.680
things that he did say about Vietnam, about his training, about his experience

1492
01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:04.359
there, about uh, you know, having to go to work with the

1493
01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:10.079
fire patrol before he became you know
that. Yeah, and and and so

1494
01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:15.399
you know, and then okay,
the politics on the job, you know

1495
01:45:15.439 --> 01:45:18.359
what I mean. And you know, I'd listened to him and I'd say,

1496
01:45:18.479 --> 01:45:21.560
your job sounds worse than the fucking
mafia, I swear to guy.

1497
01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:25.800
And everybody's like got like the Night
of the Long Knives, you know,

1498
01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:32.960
and uh, well not just the
just the way different people out. This

1499
01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:36.039
guy hates me. This guy really
hates me. This guy really really hates

1500
01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:42.239
me. Uh you know. But
he was very dedicated to the job I

1501
01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:46.520
I you know, and he was
a guy I believe, uh uh who

1502
01:45:46.920 --> 01:45:51.079
really really took the job very seriously, lost people, lost friends, and

1503
01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:54.760
just was sick and tired of that. If he thought it didn't have to

1504
01:45:54.840 --> 01:45:59.520
happen, if guys operated you know, asserative lead but safely uh you know,

1505
01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:03.800
their job decent people, Um,
you know, Uh, he was

1506
01:46:03.840 --> 01:46:10.199
a wonderful uh mentor to have in
my memory. Do you know what I

1507
01:46:10.279 --> 01:46:14.159
mean? Because he informs my fire
service. Now just in terms of the

1508
01:46:14.840 --> 01:46:17.640
way, yeah, yeah, you
know you you you're told, you're shown,

1509
01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:20.159
you're taught how it's supposed to be
done. Hey, I got an

1510
01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:24.199
idea, why don't you do it
that way? Um? Because you know,

1511
01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:28.520
just the little things that sometimes that
that piss you off. And again,

1512
01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:31.319
you're a volley, you're a seasonal, you're understaffed, you know,

1513
01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:36.279
uh, you're not doing you know, there's a lot of operation believe Yeah,

1514
01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:43.239
yeah, going on seventeen in a
row or e ms also that comes

1515
01:46:43.279 --> 01:46:48.159
with that absolutely. So yeah,
I mean my my Lieutenant Patty Lee,

1516
01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:53.039
he was in one twenty fourth truck
in the seventies when Bushwick was burning.

1517
01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:56.520
That's where one twenty fourth the Tacco
truck he's in. The Chatty said,

1518
01:46:56.600 --> 01:46:59.399
you see how good the show is
when you have an irishman on. Ah,

1519
01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:12.279
it's my birth right. I heard
a story about Patty Um, Patty

1520
01:47:12.319 --> 01:47:16.239
Brown, uh that he was close
with John Drennan, the guy who and

1521
01:47:16.399 --> 01:47:18.840
that. Uh. I don't know
if this is true enough, but what

1522
01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:23.800
I had heard was that after he
was in the hospital for so long that

1523
01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:28.359
that Patty had said to him,
you can go, you can go,

1524
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:31.600
like it was actually on date line
and the actually have him telling Pat in

1525
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:35.039
his own words, said that yeah, right right, and not to me.

1526
01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:38.600
It's like, dude, that gets
me every time, bro, because

1527
01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:40.920
he said he was gonna they were
gonna take care of take care of his

1528
01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:44.439
kids, take care of your kids. It's okay, okay, it's okay.

1529
01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:46.000
Yeah. It was a weird thing
because Pat wasn't in that house.

1530
01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:49.800
He was up at sixty nine Engine
at the time, and there was something

1531
01:47:49.880 --> 01:47:54.600
that happened. Whereas Pat was a
bachelor, didn't have a family, he

1532
01:47:54.680 --> 01:47:59.840
could be assigned to Viena Drennan,
uh you know, uh and and and

1533
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:02.479
the company heard of the burn unit
and expedite things because people kind of knew

1534
01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:06.079
who Pat was. Let's say,
I believe he was a captain at the

1535
01:48:06.159 --> 01:48:11.760
time, so he could expedite things
for the family through the department. I

1536
01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:15.479
think there was some consternation about him
not having been what was it, four

1537
01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:23.319
truck I can't remember, it was
five truck truck rather, I'm sorry,

1538
01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:28.479
m but that kind of went by
the way. And so, yeah,

1539
01:48:28.520 --> 01:48:32.359
he did very well by the Drenning
family and uh, you know, Veena

1540
01:48:32.399 --> 01:48:35.279
would tell you to this day.
I believe that he was a complete gentleman

1541
01:48:35.359 --> 01:48:40.680
and expedited anything and really cared for
John. Uh. And again he didn't

1542
01:48:40.720 --> 01:48:43.399
have to go home to a wife
or kids or anything. He could be

1543
01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:47.359
there a lot. And so yeah, that's the other part of your duty

1544
01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:53.960
on your job that you know.
You know, pushing aligness is a lot

1545
01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:59.560
easier sometimes than than being by a
man's bedside forty days. It's like biblical

1546
01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:02.479
that he would survive. Uh.
I listened to you a podcast to a

1547
01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:08.640
fireman who was at that fire Watt
Street, and you know, yeah,

1548
01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:14.199
so uh you know, uh,
what can I say? It's just uh

1549
01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:18.520
uh yeah he said those words to
John because he relayed those in an interview

1550
01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:23.279
himself. It's just an amazing testament
to what we'll do for each other,

1551
01:49:23.479 --> 01:49:28.079
what we do, you know,
the brotherhood. Really people don't understand how

1552
01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:30.720
strong it really is. It's just
it can be and I've seen it with

1553
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:38.199
my own eyes. Um, we
had a fire here October. Uh.

1554
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:43.239
We went all night. It was
a semi large volume of fire. Uh.

1555
01:49:43.399 --> 01:49:46.079
And then uh, you know,
we took up and cleaned up and

1556
01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:49.279
at six thirty in the morning,
we were all in a van at seven

1557
01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:53.960
thirty for a member's funeral, you
know what I mean. And you know

1558
01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:58.640
we turned out. Everybody turned out
for that funeral. Um, these types

1559
01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:03.960
of h uh mare's and and and
actions are they're going by the wayside.

1560
01:50:04.199 --> 01:50:08.479
That kind of honor, that kind
of dignity, that kind of respect for

1561
01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:14.119
each other and and for for a
job or a vocation. Everything's getting like

1562
01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:17.079
water dumped on and getting deluded,
right, And so to be a part

1563
01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:21.199
of service like that in this day
and age is uh, you know,

1564
01:50:21.279 --> 01:50:26.000
it's it's it's a privilege. No, it's good. I'm glad to hear

1565
01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:30.199
it. I talked to guys,
you had to have been missing it on

1566
01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:33.119
like to miss a funeral, a
funeral or I mean, you had to

1567
01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:38.439
have there was really no excuse almost
really. So yeah, we went up

1568
01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:42.920
to that young man, Jared Lloyd, Lieutenant Jared Lloyd up in Spring Valley

1569
01:50:43.159 --> 01:50:46.439
and uh, you know it was
a cold day and uh you know his

1570
01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:50.520
little two little boys that he left
behind. You know. The pastor pointed

1571
01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:56.039
up to the stands. It was
out doors at a at a baseball state

1572
01:50:56.079 --> 01:50:58.119
and he said look at these men. These are your family. Now,

1573
01:50:58.960 --> 01:51:00.039
I've seen it. I've seen it
time and time again. I've seen it.

1574
01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:03.800
Also, people fall by the wayside
in terms of mission fatigue, I

1575
01:51:03.880 --> 01:51:09.079
call it sometimes. And but with
most families, if you're close to them,

1576
01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:13.359
you know. And there's other members
who I was close to over the

1577
01:51:13.439 --> 01:51:15.279
years whose family I stay in touch
with. I'm not going to mention them

1578
01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:19.119
now, but yeah, it's honorable, you know what I mean. It's

1579
01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:24.600
like, it's you know, not
to get all you know, touchy feeling,

1580
01:51:24.640 --> 01:51:27.960
but I believe it's why we're here
to help each other. And you

1581
01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:36.279
know that day, yeah, that
was my fire department did a warrior appreciation

1582
01:51:36.359 --> 01:51:43.640
event. For many years we would
we would have thirty to sixty veterans come

1583
01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:48.239
out. It was great. It
was a great event. I remember one

1584
01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:55.119
year we voted to put cash,
like we've given them knapsacks with golf balls

1585
01:51:55.119 --> 01:51:57.560
and all sorts of ships. One
said, fuck that, let's just give

1586
01:51:57.600 --> 01:52:00.680
them, well, you know,
a little party. It was one year

1587
01:52:00.720 --> 01:52:04.439
we voted to give them money like
this, So we put the money in

1588
01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:08.239
the naps back and guys like yeah, I said no, no, no,

1589
01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:11.640
no, like this. So they
look in and they're like, okay,

1590
01:52:11.680 --> 01:52:15.920
you know. So it was a
wonderful event and it was very well

1591
01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:20.520
attended the community here. Um,
two lieutenants who are friends of mine from

1592
01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:25.319
your job came out one year and
uh, they were very impressed. And

1593
01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:28.960
we still do it on a on
a very modified you know, like this

1594
01:52:29.079 --> 01:52:33.479
summer, I had twelve veterans families
come out just for the day for lunch.

1595
01:52:33.520 --> 01:52:38.079
We buy them lunch, We go
to the beach, We buy kids

1596
01:52:38.319 --> 01:52:41.840
their kids, uh, you know, gifts and toys and ice cream,

1597
01:52:41.920 --> 01:52:45.800
just to show that we're still plugged
in with the veteran community, even though

1598
01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:47.359
again, you know, people are
like, oh, you know, I'm

1599
01:52:47.399 --> 01:52:53.399
not going to give as much,
but this department still turns out for veterans.

1600
01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:56.920
Good by. You said nah about
this guy? Said no, I

1601
01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:58.600
like this guy. You said no, no, no, no no.

1602
01:53:01.760 --> 01:53:03.920
When you saw that he was on
NFL, you like, we got to

1603
01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:08.319
get rid of this guy. Out
of what I can't we talking about?

1604
01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:13.520
Are you talking about me? You
said to me your exact words, where

1605
01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:15.119
we can't be sloppy seconds. I
don't know what that means. Oh,

1606
01:53:15.199 --> 01:53:17.840
I did not say that. You
said that. I said, no.

1607
01:53:18.039 --> 01:53:30.039
Lube I thought, oh, binging
ging bing shit stars, you know what

1608
01:53:32.560 --> 01:53:35.880
did you want to talk about?
A couple of the foundations and stuff?

1609
01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:43.319
Throw them up there. Guns got
this one well with Joey Foundation, Joey

1610
01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:48.079
d Bnardo Foundation, Chief Debonado,
He's got to just just the most unbelievable

1611
01:53:48.119 --> 01:53:53.000
guys. I've learned from how to
conduct yourself as a man, how to

1612
01:53:53.279 --> 01:53:58.399
keep your word, how to raise
money for other firefighters who don't have anything.

1613
01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:02.720
No, a guy in Baltimore just
told me that he got bailout gear

1614
01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:04.840
last year. I'm like, wait
a minute, Baltimore. He goes,

1615
01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:06.960
yeah, we don't have bailic here. I'm like, you don't have bailic

1616
01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:11.960
gear in Baltimore. These guys have
gone to four or five jobs while we've

1617
01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:15.640
been talking, you know, and
they don't have bail out gear. I

1618
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:19.720
was shocked. If you wanted to
buy it yourself, and so uh not

1619
01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:23.039
only that is how do you deploy
it, how do you use it,

1620
01:54:23.079 --> 01:54:27.319
how do you train up in it? And so Chief d with his UM

1621
01:54:27.960 --> 01:54:30.680
foundation is entirely effective. I remember
one year we were out of East at

1622
01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:36.279
some firehouse and they were having a
seminar and and guys from Hawaii and I'm

1623
01:54:36.319 --> 01:54:39.399
like, where are you guys from. They're like Hawaii. I'm like you

1624
01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:42.520
you know, I was like,
you're even the most dedicated fireman. You

1625
01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:45.760
got the best wives in the world. And we asked them where do you

1626
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:48.239
staying. They're like, oh,
we have a hotel in South Jamaica.

1627
01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:58.039
I'm like, oh, everybody who
wanted like a gift that night gave it

1628
01:54:58.079 --> 01:55:00.720
to the Hawaii guys. U but
Chief d you didn't stop there. He

1629
01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:06.000
turned it into a day of hands
on training. And uh so, you

1630
01:55:06.079 --> 01:55:09.920
know, two days of hands on
training he could just give. He could

1631
01:55:09.960 --> 01:55:13.680
just give you and you can give
you the rope, and that's that's not

1632
01:55:13.800 --> 01:55:16.640
what's happening. And so guys are
getting trained up the Suffolk County Fire Academy.

1633
01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:20.079
All of the instructors turn out like
everybody comes in on the day off

1634
01:55:20.199 --> 01:55:25.279
on their nickel on there, you
know, And I mean it's extensive.

1635
01:55:25.720 --> 01:55:29.359
You got I can't remember that the
actual numbers, but you've got hundreds of

1636
01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:32.079
guys getting trained, hundreds of guys
going home and training. So again,

1637
01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:34.840
you could either be on the job, into the job. You can talk

1638
01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:40.119
about all the fire service and or
you can actually be you know, uh

1639
01:55:40.399 --> 01:55:45.119
going out there and training up guys. It's funny this year I missed the

1640
01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:50.199
Long Island Uh no, no,
no, the the Joey D thing out

1641
01:55:50.239 --> 01:55:54.600
East a right after three years.
I called Chief and I says, listen,

1642
01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:56.119
I can't come. He goes,
what's wrong? And I said,

1643
01:55:56.119 --> 01:55:59.159
I got fucking COVID. He goes, oh yeah, and I go yeah.

1644
01:55:59.159 --> 01:56:03.359
He goes, how Betty, see, I don't want to get anybody

1645
01:56:03.399 --> 01:56:08.000
sick, you know. Um.
I was at a convention and my wife

1646
01:56:08.039 --> 01:56:10.520
goes, how was the convention?
It was one of these active conventions they

1647
01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:12.960
never went to in my life.
And uh, she said, how was

1648
01:56:12.960 --> 01:56:14.640
it? They said, if I
don't get COVID from this thing, I'm

1649
01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:16.479
never againting. Well, I got
it, you know, so I couldn't

1650
01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:20.359
go to the Chief D thing.
And they had another semin odd down in

1651
01:56:20.560 --> 01:56:25.000
Texas. Guys. Guys want to
learn, you know, especially from you

1652
01:56:25.119 --> 01:56:27.840
guys. You know, you guys
are the New York Yankees teaching baseball.

1653
01:56:28.079 --> 01:56:30.279
You know it's uh and and you
know, to a man, I really

1654
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:33.800
never met an instructor, not one
who wasn't an absolute gentleman, you know

1655
01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:39.319
what I mean, absolute professional choir
professional and you know, each and their

1656
01:56:39.359 --> 01:56:45.319
own expertise. Um you know,
and and that's admirable me to me.

1657
01:56:45.079 --> 01:56:49.119
Um so uh so. Yeah,
the Joe D. Banaro Foundation and Dennis

1658
01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:55.920
Leary you know, kind of got
them going. Uh Leary Firefighter dot org.

1659
01:56:56.920 --> 01:57:00.319
So Leary has bought boats for New
Orleans. We went down there.

1660
01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:04.520
We did I don't even know how
many trips we brought the New York City

1661
01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:09.520
District Council of Carpenters, the Carpenters
Union. We said, we'll give you,

1662
01:57:10.239 --> 01:57:12.520
we'll fly you down, we'll fly
you home, we'll put you up,

1663
01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:15.439
we'll give you one meal. You
come down, and you restore these

1664
01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:18.760
firehouses after Katrina. Well not only
did they restore the firehouses, but they

1665
01:57:18.800 --> 01:57:23.439
were running, you know why,
they were sweat and pipe. They would

1666
01:57:23.479 --> 01:57:26.520
do whatever. And the funny thing
about New Orleans, it's like, you

1667
01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:29.079
know, we were like, don't
you need a code like you know,

1668
01:57:29.239 --> 01:57:31.319
and they're like, oh no,
that's Uncle Jimmy. He's they were letting

1669
01:57:31.399 --> 01:57:36.520
us do put the place back together
fantastically, and you know, frigid air

1670
01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:42.039
and would give us stuff and Nautilus
and we're like, you want to wait

1671
01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:45.920
room here or workout room. Yeah, you know, so it was unbelievable.

1672
01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:49.479
I still when I go down to
New Orleans, I just you know,

1673
01:57:50.920 --> 01:57:56.039
it's it's unbelievable what he did for
the New Orleans, the city,

1674
01:57:56.319 --> 01:57:59.439
Ray Nagan, I'll never forget.
I said it would take ten years and

1675
01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:04.680
ten million, and Leary put fourteen
firehouses back into operation in twenty months for

1676
01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:09.279
less than two million dollars. And
that's a lot of time on the phone,

1677
01:58:09.319 --> 01:58:13.880
a lot of pleading with people.
Um and for your job command post.

1678
01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:18.439
Um. Uh. You know I
was mentioning before high rise you guys

1679
01:58:18.520 --> 01:58:23.760
didn't have a high rise simulator apparently, Um, we did not you know

1680
01:58:24.279 --> 01:58:32.960
flash over um uh that building has
the rollover yeah upstairs. Yeah, the

1681
01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:36.760
Liz Hopper. It's dedicated to this
one Liz Hopper, who used to run

1682
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:41.479
all of the administrative for Dennis Leary. She was like a workhorse. She

1683
01:58:41.600 --> 01:58:45.279
passed away of a heart attack.
Um yeah, so he's um And for

1684
01:58:45.399 --> 01:58:50.439
Worcester. You know, on the
grounds of the Worcester Cold Storage fire,

1685
01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:55.279
Dennis built it's the most massive firehouse
you have ever seen. And it's like,

1686
01:58:55.760 --> 01:58:59.640
you know, rescue two trucks,
three engines, ambulances chief. But

1687
01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:03.560
I mean there's so it's massive.
You gotta like walks like you're in a

1688
01:59:04.279 --> 01:59:10.199
airport. It's so big. And
that's a testimony to his devotion to the

1689
01:59:10.279 --> 01:59:13.920
fire service. Again, you know, somebody can give lip service and said,

1690
01:59:13.960 --> 01:59:16.680
oh I'm gonna I'm gonna have a
fifty fifty for the fireman and whole

1691
01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:23.760
shit that he built this massive,
multimillion dollars and they built a training facility,

1692
01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:26.520
you know, like a real brick
and mortar training facility. You got

1693
01:59:26.600 --> 01:59:30.800
this guy, Steve Sandal Lagucci.
I can't remember what the men affordable affordable

1694
01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:36.520
towers that guy with the yeah,
yeah, so he's we're trying to get

1695
01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:42.039
him on board with with Dennis because
it's very effective training from municipalities that don't

1696
01:59:42.039 --> 01:59:45.840
have a lot of money. So
yeah, Leary Firefighter. Uh you know,

1697
01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:49.520
supplementing the Debernardo Foundation. Uh,
you know, I think Dennis has

1698
01:59:49.560 --> 01:59:53.359
to come on this show to talk
about all those things. Problem just I'm

1699
01:59:53.399 --> 01:59:57.399
just like he doesn't toot his horn
a lot. I'll tell him, I

1700
01:59:57.439 --> 02:00:00.359
said, you know these are the
guys, tell me, did you well

1701
02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:02.159
come listen, come on the show
and toot your own all you want bro

1702
02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:09.920
too. Well, yeah, yeah, listen. I always let him speak

1703
02:00:09.920 --> 02:00:15.159
from you guys. Very similar personality
too, Like you guys are pretty similar.

1704
02:00:15.319 --> 02:00:16.760
Like when I sat down with him, it's the same thing. Like

1705
02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:23.680
his mother's father were from County Kerry
and and and my parents were from County

1706
02:00:23.720 --> 02:00:27.239
Galway. And the first time I
met his mother, I was dressed in

1707
02:00:27.319 --> 02:00:31.319
my class as I went up to
Metal Day and um Boston with him,

1708
02:00:31.600 --> 02:00:34.520
and he thrown me to his family, like to run into ference, you'll

1709
02:00:34.560 --> 02:00:39.359
keep them busy. And his mother
goes, hey, mom, this is

1710
02:00:39.439 --> 02:00:43.479
Bobby Burke. Uh and she says
hello in her Irish accent. He goes,

1711
02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:45.359
Bobby, where's your family from?
I said, Goalway. She goes,

1712
02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:53.960
oh, yeah, carry's better.
And he's like we were brought here

1713
02:00:54.039 --> 02:00:59.600
was a pretty smilar personnel. It's
that old Irish you might score around and

1714
02:00:59.640 --> 02:01:02.760
somebody else's watched, but you're not
scoring around on mine kind of upbringing.

1715
02:01:03.319 --> 02:01:08.560
Uh yeah, we get we get
along very well. Uh. There are

1716
02:01:08.600 --> 02:01:12.680
certain things, uh that in our
upbringing that we talk about that nobody else

1717
02:01:12.720 --> 02:01:16.640
would understand. It'd be like bringing
up you know, Italian Polish. Yeah.

1718
02:01:17.039 --> 02:01:21.000
I was listening to a guy tell
a story. Uh, he was

1719
02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:26.319
cooking for a chief or rather Captain
Downey at the time, and he put

1720
02:01:26.600 --> 02:01:30.439
sugar in the pasta in the sauce. Uh. You know, only two

1721
02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:32.800
Italians, would you know? Uh, you know know about something like that.

1722
02:01:33.399 --> 02:01:40.640
We use catch up of course everything
on a Friday night when you couldn't

1723
02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:45.640
eat meat, you know. So
so yeah, Dennis, I can't say

1724
02:01:45.720 --> 02:01:47.960
enough about the guy. He put
food on my table. And with the

1725
02:01:48.039 --> 02:01:54.479
acting world, he you know continually
uh carries the flag, picked the flag

1726
02:01:54.600 --> 02:01:58.119
up and continue to carry the flag
for the Fire Service. And there's no

1727
02:01:58.359 --> 02:02:00.880
I can't think of another actor who
does that. Who does that? You

1728
02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:04.680
know, they're all everybody wants to
do something, but you know, but

1729
02:02:04.800 --> 02:02:10.439
I never forget it's just a slogan
unless you do something about it. Bro.

1730
02:02:10.800 --> 02:02:13.680
You know. Yeah, it's a
misconception because people think that taxes and

1731
02:02:13.760 --> 02:02:16.520
everything pay for the fire Service,
and they don't. He understands that you

1732
02:02:16.560 --> 02:02:19.760
can supplement these things through his foundation
and stuff like that. You guys are

1733
02:02:19.800 --> 02:02:23.560
doing a great job. And I
want to mention the vet Hack. Okay,

1734
02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:27.680
you have to go to the vet
Hack vet haack dot org. Now

1735
02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:30.960
they do things like I can't even
remember the name of it. Like when

1736
02:02:30.199 --> 02:02:33.399
a guy's missing a limb and they
put on a limb, that's automatically.

1737
02:02:33.479 --> 02:02:41.000
It's bionics they do for for veterans. The part of it I'm involved with

1738
02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:45.760
is they do rock marches. So
we'll meet at fifty ninth Street, two

1739
02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:49.439
hundred veterans from all services, air, you know, Marines, Army maybe,

1740
02:02:49.880 --> 02:02:54.000
and they get together and it's it's
kind of just fellowship. It's like,

1741
02:02:54.119 --> 02:02:55.920
hey, how are you doing all? I haven't seen you in the

1742
02:02:56.000 --> 02:03:01.000
year. Getting a line on a
job somewhere? Maybe we march up you

1743
02:03:01.079 --> 02:03:05.359
know, Central Park around we go
to somebody's motor pool at some precincts somewhere

1744
02:03:06.000 --> 02:03:11.720
host us and it's just the day
a guy's hanging out together, uh veterans.

1745
02:03:12.079 --> 02:03:15.079
Yeah, so that's a great thing. Yeah, And it's no more

1746
02:03:15.479 --> 02:03:23.840
less. He does these events and
it's always promoting veteran uh uh employment,

1747
02:03:24.600 --> 02:03:27.079
you know, and and making sure
guys are hooked in with each other.

1748
02:03:27.399 --> 02:03:30.720
If you get a job through his
organization, you are obliged and to go

1749
02:03:30.800 --> 02:03:38.680
and help another veteran who's obliged.
Beating forward and grassroots, nobody gets nobody's

1750
02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:45.439
getting any um salary in this uns
can we put those uh in the description

1751
02:03:45.680 --> 02:03:50.560
chat Yeah, I can. We
can do that for sure, Thanks for

1752
02:03:50.880 --> 02:03:55.840
king. We also have the fire
Family Transport if you want to touch on

1753
02:03:55.920 --> 02:03:58.880
it or I don't really work with
them anymore. They called me a couple

1754
02:03:58.880 --> 02:04:04.439
of times, you know, to
go to the Bernie cantor uh cantor Fitzgerald.

1755
02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:06.960
So they have the big I forget
the name of it. They used

1756
02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:11.520
to do it around nine to eleven, um, and you go up there

1757
02:04:11.640 --> 02:04:15.880
and you're the celebrity for them,
and uh so I did that and it

1758
02:04:15.079 --> 02:04:21.119
was Fire Family Transporter is uh pretty
much run by the the form of football

1759
02:04:21.159 --> 02:04:24.279
team is the way I looked at
it, because these guys are like,

1760
02:04:24.319 --> 02:04:29.920
hey, jelly monster. Uh.
But they do great work. I mean

1761
02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:35.079
it's unbelievably effective. Um. Another
part of the fire service that you don't

1762
02:04:35.159 --> 02:04:44.279
even consider until you have to consider
ortunately they are always going to treatment,

1763
02:04:44.439 --> 02:04:48.640
guys going for you know, so
they do tremendously effective work. And you

1764
02:04:48.720 --> 02:04:54.680
know whatever they asked me to do, I would do. Um. Uh

1765
02:04:55.000 --> 02:05:00.399
yeah, so I told you they
gave me a crystal like plaque, but

1766
02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:04.039
they forgot to invite me to the
dinner to wow son of them. But

1767
02:05:04.119 --> 02:05:06.439
then the next year when they invited
me to the dinner, I was telling

1768
02:05:06.479 --> 02:05:14.239
you I won the fifty fifty.
I remember. I think Danny Prince uh

1769
02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:18.560
picked he picked the telephone number out
and he goes, I was sitting with

1770
02:05:18.880 --> 02:05:26.560
uh, commission Nigro, Joe Dum, Patty Brown's sister, all this table

1771
02:05:26.680 --> 02:05:30.960
and he goes, the name is
Burk, and everybody at my table goes,

1772
02:05:30.039 --> 02:05:34.920
WHOA like this? And Danny or
Patty kind of somebody goes, You're

1773
02:05:34.920 --> 02:05:41.199
not the only bark in this room
is nine one seven six. Fore I'm

1774
02:05:41.239 --> 02:05:45.560
the only one with that rock.
And then I said right away, I

1775
02:05:45.640 --> 02:05:48.399
go I give it right back to
the house, and ten truckies like I'll

1776
02:05:48.479 --> 02:05:50.840
read your ticket, and I go, oh, you know, we will

1777
02:05:50.920 --> 02:05:54.760
not take the money back. So
I was like one am I doing?

1778
02:05:54.960 --> 02:05:57.119
You know, it was like eight
thousand dolls. I'm like, one am

1779
02:05:57.199 --> 02:06:00.920
I doing? And I did.
Commissioner and I go. Nigro was next

1780
02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:02.000
to me. He goes, boy, but you feel like shit, And

1781
02:06:02.079 --> 02:06:04.439
I was like, I do you
know. I'm like, I don't want

1782
02:06:04.479 --> 02:06:11.319
this money. So I gave it
to where it did most good and Yeah,

1783
02:06:11.439 --> 02:06:15.399
that was a funny night. Uh, I go to It was at

1784
02:06:15.439 --> 02:06:19.239
Anton's or Russo's on the Bay.
It's like a thousand guys there. Yeah,

1785
02:06:23.680 --> 02:06:26.560
on the bay. I was you
know, I can't eat eggplant.

1786
02:06:26.600 --> 02:06:32.600
I'll tell you it's a good meal. Sorry, my wife invited me.

1787
02:06:32.680 --> 02:06:39.319
My wife is Italian. Her grandfather
worked at a place called Murray's Cheese Shop.

1788
02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:45.239
And little literally my first date,
she gives me me eggplant and I

1789
02:06:45.319 --> 02:06:47.840
said, oh you know what,
eight I stuck getting red. My throat

1790
02:06:47.960 --> 02:06:50.600
is closed, and I'm like dying. That night, she goes, would

1791
02:06:50.600 --> 02:06:55.439
you like some more in the egg
plan? Yeah? Sure, my tongue

1792
02:06:55.520 --> 02:07:00.399
is swollen. I'm like, oh
god. She had me lunch. This

1793
02:07:00.520 --> 02:07:02.439
is the God's honest. And the
next day she had screen blunt. She

1794
02:07:02.479 --> 02:07:06.239
goes, there's a little bit left. Somebody said, I don't know what

1795
02:07:06.359 --> 02:07:09.720
the ship I never had in my
life, but it's fucking killing me,

1796
02:07:10.199 --> 02:07:14.199
you know. And and and that
was, Uh, that was June of

1797
02:07:15.640 --> 02:07:19.920
like May of of in nineteen eighty
forty eighty Yeah, forty but line in

1798
02:07:20.000 --> 02:07:24.640
my coffee, Charlie. Wow,
he had a day game on them,

1799
02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:33.439
bro. He didn't care what he
would happen to him. Yeah, a

1800
02:07:33.479 --> 02:07:39.760
phylactic shock. Still I did it
was we never had a plan. I

1801
02:07:39.800 --> 02:07:45.199
could nobody. You know, you
put some meat in the pop boiler out

1802
02:07:45.239 --> 02:07:51.039
of its boiler boiler top. My
mother was She was a wonderful woman.

1803
02:07:51.079 --> 02:07:55.720
She was like a druid. She
was very religious. But no cook.

1804
02:07:57.319 --> 02:08:00.880
We have the whole pack. After
every meal. My father would look at

1805
02:08:00.920 --> 02:08:05.399
it us like, we go,
God, spare you the health that you

1806
02:08:05.399 --> 02:08:07.520
should make another meal like this.
We're like, oh jeez, I saw

1807
02:08:07.600 --> 02:08:11.359
my kids last time. We used
to stick the rustle sprats in the corner

1808
02:08:11.399 --> 02:08:15.039
of the table so we wouldn't have
to eat them. You know, everything

1809
02:08:15.680 --> 02:08:18.159
said. I married my wife just
so I had got a good meal out

1810
02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:20.720
of it. There you go,
bro, Now he's got you know,

1811
02:08:20.720 --> 02:08:24.880
he's got the meat balls. He's
got. Now he's going like this.

1812
02:08:24.000 --> 02:08:26.960
Now he's walking. Put a little
sugar in there. Put a little Yeah,

1813
02:08:28.279 --> 02:08:33.239
I got a big tree in my
back yard. Don't even you got

1814
02:08:35.199 --> 02:08:41.319
your back. I'm telling you,
no more use for this guy. All

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right? Like an awesome job,
bro job, really a lot of much.

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It was enjoyable. I was a
little nervous. I'm still a little

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nervous. I'm always in all of
you guys and your commitment, your service.

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02:08:52.800 --> 02:08:58.560
Um, you know so uh you're
not doing all right, you know,

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02:09:00.079 --> 02:09:03.760
to living, not that what you're
helping, what you're doing, what

1820
02:09:03.880 --> 02:09:07.640
you're doing again? Thank you said, it's easy to write a check you

1821
02:09:07.279 --> 02:09:11.039
walking the walk. I always say, if if a dopey actor can do

1822
02:09:11.119 --> 02:09:13.039
it, there's no excuse you can
do it too, So I say,

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02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:16.159
dopey fineman, So here we go
the same thing. Yeah right, you

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got any shout outs? Bro?
No? So jan what about you kid?

1825
02:09:24.680 --> 02:09:26.880
I actually I do. I was
gonna wish a little happy birthday to

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my old lady. She's uh oh
birthdays today, So yeah, very good

1827
02:09:31.680 --> 02:09:37.439
around the room a little while I
wish birthday last night, oh bom.

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02:09:37.760 --> 02:09:43.159
But other than that, I appreciate
that. Yeah, all right, Well

1829
02:09:43.680 --> 02:09:45.399
you want to play the ending of
the show there? What do you got?

1830
02:09:45.680 --> 02:09:48.319
Yeah? Sure, that's go ahead. Well, actually, does did

1831
02:09:48.880 --> 02:09:50.960
Bob you have any more shoutouts that
you have? No? You were good?

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02:09:50.039 --> 02:09:56.760
Right, I'm I'm tap out.
All right, here we go.

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02:09:56.840 --> 02:09:58.359
Let me go ahead and do our
out show stand by for a few Well,

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1869
02:12:11.039 --> 02:12:13.920
shout out. We Louis and I
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02:12:15.520 --> 02:12:20.000
Association one hundred and seventeenth Annual June
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02:12:20.079 --> 02:12:24.159
and see me. Roofie and Bobby
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1872
02:12:26.199 --> 02:12:33.319
It'll just be me and Roofie.
He's like, this just crash and

1873
02:12:33.399 --> 02:12:37.119
that Michael does a very nice job. That's him, right, yeah,

1874
02:12:37.000 --> 02:12:41.800
well paid for that. Well whoa
whoa with the hoo paid Hold on minute,

1875
02:12:43.119 --> 02:12:48.760
alrightel uh, mister Burke, thank
you so much, Thank you for

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02:12:50.000 --> 02:12:54.520
everything you do for the so much
appreciate it really is real honor to be

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02:12:54.640 --> 02:13:00.399
here. More than I can say, roof anything that's its baby. Alright,

1878
02:13:00.560 --> 02:13:03.920
guys, we'll see you on Thursday
night. We might have a guy

1879
02:13:03.079 --> 02:13:07.720
I think Wolfe's morning. He's on
it. He's working on something. Until

1880
02:13:07.760 --> 02:13:11.159
then, guys, uh, stay
low and go all right, everybody,

1881
02:13:11.159 --> 02:13:13.439
we'll see it. The big one
al right, guys, good any one