1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,480 Talk to us now and go to the TNT Radio Interactive Live chair room at 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,679 TNT radio dot live, Lighting the fuse for freedom Today's News Talk Radio TNT 3 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:19,960 TNT. You're with Jeremy Now on Today's News Talk Radio TNTNT jeem Warfare at 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,879 TNT radio dot Live. It's my email address. Thank you to everybody around 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,160 the world who sends me mails. I really do appreciate it. I particularly 6 00:00:29,199 --> 00:00:37,240 appreciate those emails from people who actually tell me where they are the most fascinating 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,039 locations from you know, of people who listen to my show. It really 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,240 is amazing. I love the fact that internet radio exists, that I can 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,439 broadcast to people in the Maldives, to people in the US, Canada, 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,759 Australians. He didn't Russia, even Latin America, Brazil. I don't know, 11 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,000 alex Can I say Latin America. I never know what's politically correct anymore. 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,079 I used to say. I used to say Latin America. I think 13 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,840 I can still say that. These days. Everybody gets offended by everything. 14 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:11,319 You can't say black American. You have to say African American, which is 15 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:19,319 also patently absurd because most black Americans don't come from Africa, but and also 16 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:23,280 Elon Musk would therefore be called African American. And that's why it gets so 17 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,359 silly. Shurely Siron, she's also African American. It's so silly, these 18 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:33,840 these ridiculous labels. Nevertheless, jump into the live chat on TNT's website. 19 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:40,400 Yeah, hi, Rebecca, Rebecca says she's loving TNT. I think that's 20 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:44,120 my housekeeping, Alex shall we shall we get to my guest. Let's do 21 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:47,120 that. My name is Germ. This is Jim Warfare the Battle of Ideas 22 00:01:48,239 --> 00:01:55,400 says it happened around the clock up there. Today's news talk radio TNT Jay 23 00:01:55,439 --> 00:01:59,079 Daya. I love chatting Jim, my friend. How are you, very 24 00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:04,200 man? How are you? I can't complain. I actually can complain because 25 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:10,800 I made the grave error of watching Bobby. I was heavily I was heavily 26 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:16,719 deceived by that trailer. So what I'm saying is, I don't know if 27 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:22,199 if you felt the same, But the trailer of Bobby made it look like 28 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,240 a really funny movie that didn't take itself too seriously. That's kind of where 29 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,960 it all started for me. Yeah, it did look like, you know, 30 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,919 a standard kind of comedy. It looked like it was going to be 31 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,199 sort of a fantasy kind of you know, like the Lego movie, which 32 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:43,039 was, you know, not not too bad, and I didn't expect it 33 00:02:43,039 --> 00:02:46,800 to be just full on, next level metal level propaganda, but sure enough 34 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:52,520 it was. It was one of the most feminist slash gnostic films I've ever 35 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,680 seen, So yeah, I felt the same way I had to review it. 36 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,560 I don't really care that much about it. I wasn't super excited. 37 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,080 It's like I thought it was a kid's movie, and then I thought it 38 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,479 was a comedy, and then it's like, no, it's something else, 39 00:03:04,599 --> 00:03:07,960 and uh yeah, I mean I'm ready to dig into it. I got 40 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,000 my all my notes here, But yeah, I thought it was I thought 41 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,800 it was pretty sad the level to which we have to have all this. 42 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,800 Uh, probably get a shove down our throat before we we chat about it. 43 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,000 I just quickly want to play your short clip, Alex, have you 44 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:34,159 got that clabretty good for it? Hello, I'm not Johnny Cash. I'm 45 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:42,280 a barty girl in a barty world. Life is last da It's fantastic. 46 00:03:42,759 --> 00:03:52,639 You can brush my hair untrusted me everywhere. Oh, come on the barby 47 00:03:52,719 --> 00:03:59,039 Let us go party because I'm in a Barby world if you want to be 48 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:06,520 my lover. So Jay, that obviously is not Johnny Cash, that's AI. 49 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,680 But I just wanted to play it because it was so funny. It 50 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:13,800 was funnier than the whole movie. I didn't realize it was a I was 51 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,759 trying to figure out how did Johnny Cash sing that song? But we could 52 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,240 chat about AI on a different day. But isn't isn't that scary? How 53 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:30,000 good AI is becoming? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well it's odd because 54 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,199 AI was the plot of the Mission Impossible movie. Did you watch that? 55 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:41,040 Yeah? What did you mean the latest one? Yeah? No, no, 56 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,879 no, no, I haven't seen it. Is it worth watching? 57 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:46,720 Oh? Yeah? I mean for the programming and for the propaganda is Yeah, 58 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,399 that's pretty wild too. I mean it's all about chat GPT basically coming 59 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:57,639 alive. It's just it's kind of like Sky Now basically it terminates a revival 60 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,319 more or less. But it also has the same nastic theme as Barbie. 61 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:06,079 But so you want to get into Barbie or what? Yeah? So, 62 00:05:06,199 --> 00:05:11,120 okay, so let me just start by saying I went and watched it with 63 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,319 my wife and I didn't Okay, as we already explained, I didn't expect 64 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:18,439 it to be what it was. Everybody pitched up, there were people wearing 65 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,319 pink and all the usual stuff. There's this big moment in the middle of 66 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,680 the movie where half the cinema stands up and does it gives a standing ovation. 67 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,680 I don't know if this was just local or if it's happened everywhere else. 68 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,560 And at some point I was feeling like this was absolute cringe worthy stuff. 69 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,240 And my wife leans over and she says, you know what, I 70 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,839 don't think like this. This is this is complete garbage. And I've never 71 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:47,240 had that experience in a movie. You said people were standing up and clapping. 72 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,519 Yeah, there was that big feminist monologue if you remember in the middle 73 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,560 about women having to Yeah, that whole thing, and they were clapping and 74 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,199 going crazy. Did it happen in you as well? No, I didn't 75 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:05,839 watch it at the theater. I watched it at home, so uh. 76 00:06:06,879 --> 00:06:11,600 I watched it on as. I watched it an illegal Russian streaming site, 77 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:18,319 so I didn't give him any money. Okay, for those who haven't watched 78 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:25,160 it, would you mind just quickly giving me the synopsis? For those that 79 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:30,000 haven't, I mean, I'll might spoil it, but basically, you have 80 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:35,839 a you have an ideal world where it's the pretend world, the imaginal world, 81 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,199 the ideal world where you have the figure of Barbie that lives, and 82 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,000 she lives in a kind of a perfection. It's kind of it's it's an 83 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:48,600 Eden basically, and you know, it has the look and the feel of 84 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:54,079 you know, a kid's imaginations that so it's it's a weird mix some of 85 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:59,720 that I like in terms of cinematography and all that. But Barbie learns, 86 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,079 she starts to learn about the idea of death and decay and corruption, and 87 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:10,360 this introduces this into her ideal world. And so she's trying to figure out 88 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:13,360 why it is she knows about death, why does she know about these things? 89 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:16,279 And she starts to have, you know, her toast gets burnt, 90 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,560 her milk ghost sour. So we have corruption introduced into this ideal world. 91 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:27,000 And so she has to go on this quest to find her child that owns 92 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,079 her, her other self, her mirror self in this world or whatever. 93 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:36,160 And it turns out that it's this single mom that's got a rebellious daughter. 94 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:40,800 And anyway, Barbie has to go on this quest to find her, and 95 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:46,759 then if she heals that girl and fixes whatever's wrong with her, then things 96 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:50,639 will be fixed in her ideal world, and we'll have a new perfection will 97 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:56,399 return and all this stuff. And it turns out that after after that, 98 00:07:56,519 --> 00:08:01,160 it shifts into being a story about the roles of men and women and how 99 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:05,879 the traditional roles are kind of a box or a prison. Will Ferrell plays 100 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,399 the CEO of the Mattel Corporation in this world, and in this world it's 101 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,920 ruled by the patriarchy, and so Ken, who kind of as a beta 102 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,720 orbiter, tags along with Barbie. He comes to this world and he realizes 103 00:08:20,759 --> 00:08:24,839 that hey, guys rule this world, and so he takes the patriarchy back 104 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:31,519 to Barbie World and he sets up what he calls kingdom, And so there's 105 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:35,720 a revolution in the ideal world, which is previously run by an all female 106 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:43,440 Supreme Court, and then we get basically what's portrayed as a tyranny in the 107 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,440 Barbie world. And then Barbie and her cohorts have to stage a revolution and 108 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,399 they divide and conquer and Outsmarten the men the kins, and they restore the 109 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,519 matriarchy in the ideal world. So in the ideal world, it goes back 110 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,919 to no men writing things. Men are just kind of the servants to the 111 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:07,000 women. And Eden and Perfection return and then Barbie decides that she doesn't need 112 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,039 Ken anymore. Barbie's happy being Barbie. She says, you know you bu 113 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,480 I'll be me, and then she decides to come to the human world. 114 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,440 It's kind of a Pinocchio scenario there. I think the point is that her 115 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,519 job, since she's fixed that world, is to come to this world and 116 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,279 restore and fix the matriarch in this world. Because the movie began with a 117 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:35,200 sequence spoofing two thousand and one with a with an ancient primeval matriarchy, and 118 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:41,039 then that matriarchy falls and you get a patriarch in this world, and so 119 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:45,519 her job becoming incarnate at the end of the film, in my view spoiler 120 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:50,200 is too I'm happy to spoil this movie. Her job is to come to 121 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:56,399 this world and solve it and fix it and make it a matriarchy. Now, 122 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,480 I don't know much about the original intention of Bobby. I might have 123 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,360 it wrong, but I think the woman's name is Ruth Handler. She invented 124 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:13,039 the doll for her daughter. What in the nineteen fifties or something. I 125 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,279 don't think she intended it to be some sort of feminist icon, should he 126 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,919 Oh, have I got a drunk? I don't think so. I mean, 127 00:10:20,519 --> 00:10:24,399 you know, feminism wasn't really popping off in the fifties. But I 128 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:31,320 did hear that she was a originally some kind of cartoon. She was like 129 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,480 a prostitute in a little cartoon zine. So I don't know if Ruth got 130 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,600 that idea from that. I mean, I know she says that she saw 131 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:45,759 her daughter playing with toys with toys and got the idea for the for the 132 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:50,639 doll. But I also heard that there was a previous instantiation of Barbie as 133 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,440 a cartoon who was a kind of a whore. So I don't know which 134 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,399 one is where it really originates. But no, I don't think it was 135 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,080 intended to be back in her day anything revolutionary. I mean, third way 136 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:09,320 feminism doesn't kick off until the nineteen sixties, and it kicks off through the 137 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:16,960 through Abbey Rockefeller and her her mamily, her family's funding of Third way feminism 138 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,840 in the nineteen sixties. But I mean, if you think about it, 139 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:26,720 then what might have been an innocent Girl's Doll has now become some kind of 140 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:33,759 weird matriarchal icon. I will not endorse the purchase the purchasing of that doll 141 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,919 from now on. Yeah, I'm my wife. Actually, she put a 142 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,720 chapter in her one of her books about the way that toys are social engineering. 143 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,000 And I remember when I did some talks. I came to the UK 144 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:52,960 into a lecture back in twenty seventeen, I think, and my talk was 145 00:11:52,000 --> 00:12:01,519 about the way that the Pentagon consulted on some of the toys from the nineteen 146 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:07,600 eighties, including transformers and g I Joe, you know, stuff I grew 147 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,840 up with. Well, the Pentagon was actually consulting on that because they were 148 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:15,679 very interested in the way that toys affect children. They did a bunch of 149 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,000 studies on this. And so toys are social engineering, so I mean from 150 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:24,519 that perspective, not saying every toy is, but but they definitely they know 151 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:31,200 that you can prepare you know, a boy for war, for military recruitment, 152 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,240 that kind of stuff. That's what the goal of the eighties, you 153 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,039 know, Gi Joe and that kind of stuff was about that. But nowadays 154 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:43,799 that's why toys are so malicious in terms of promoting this new you know, 155 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:48,840 skittles agendas because they want to push the non binary stuff and all that through 156 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:52,519 toys, because toys are social engineerings. So they're doing the same thing with 157 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,639 Barbie. And that's why in the film, you know, they talk about, 158 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:58,200 oh, there's all kinds of Barbies. There's lawyer Barbie, there's judge 159 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:05,320 Barbie, there's whatever black Barbie up. I enjoyed your video analysis of it, 160 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,840 and I can't remember if you made a mention of this comment that I've 161 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:15,600 seen floating around the internet. But do you think it's possible that the entire 162 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,039 movie was a satire? Well, I mean it could be a satire and 163 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,840 still have a revolutionary method message. I mean a lot of a lot of 164 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:31,879 films can be satire and still have you know, nastic chromatic and I mean 165 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:33,879 the Lego movie was very similar. If you remember in the Lego movie, 166 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:41,120 Uh, they needed to rebel against this sort of ARCon figure or this this 167 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:46,320 demi urge figure. That guess what it was Will Ferrell again, So yeah, 168 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:50,600 say you had the same I mean, Lego movie wasn't feminist, but 169 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,080 it was. It was. It was a gnostic message where the created world 170 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,759 is a prison. It's rolled over by Will Ferrell as an archon or as 171 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:01,879 a demi urge, and the same the same thing here. So I mean 172 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:09,559 there's elements of satire to it, but the idea that it's not feminist is 173 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:13,000 ludicrous. I mean, she ends up at the end without a man. 174 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:18,039 She tells ken, I don't need you. You need to grow up and 175 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,480 be yourself. I'm gonna go be me, You be you. I mean, 176 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:24,720 yeah, she says, I don't. She's like, I don't need 177 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:28,919 a man. So that's the whole point. And to make it worse, 178 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,600 as my wife points it out, the very lost wood in the movie is 179 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:39,519 gynecologist. Yeah. I think the point of that was that, you know, 180 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:41,440 they make the joke throughout the movie because their dolls they don't have they 181 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:48,320 don't have parts, right, they don't have biological genitalia indicating their you know, 182 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,840 their gender or whatever. So at the end, now that she's gonna 183 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:54,240 be you know, in this sort of it's like a reverse incarnation. You 184 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,879 know, in Christianity, you have the idea that the second person that God 185 00:14:56,919 --> 00:15:01,440 had became a man, and he became man to restore and save the human 186 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:05,200 race. Put it back to its hedenic state. Now you get a reverse 187 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:09,000 incarnation with a woman. And I've been talking about you know, there's a 188 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,799 lot of movies that do this. You think about fifth Element, you know, 189 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:18,039 Mila Djovivic basically becomes the incarnation of the Ether or the fifth element. 190 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:22,080 She's a goddess savior. There's a lot of films that have this goddess savior 191 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,320 narrative, Lucy with Garla Johansson, on and on and on, and this 192 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:30,440 is just kind of the latest instantiation of that in my view, because in 193 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:33,799 the movie, Barbie is the ideal, she's the archetype of a woman. 194 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:37,440 But she evolves, and they keep making that point that now she's evolved beyond 195 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,559 the older notions of being a housewife and having children. So why is she 196 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,919 going to the guy? Because her parts are her own. Now she will 197 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,039 determine the purpose of her parts, right, not a man. It's not 198 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:56,480 there for the you know, for reproduction. It's there for her to determine 199 00:15:56,519 --> 00:15:58,799 at her will and at her liberty. So that's part of the purpose I 200 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:03,519 think of her coming, you know, Pinocchio style, to become a real 201 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:07,919 girl at the end to this world is so that she can now determine her 202 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:12,159 own destiny. She's not bound by biology. All right, Jay, hang 203 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:15,159 on one moment, are quickly, I have to go to an ad break. 204 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,799 My name is Germ changing to jayde This is TNT Radio, CNT Radios, 205 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:22,159 Katie Hopkins. He said, I'm going to adjourn this, and he'd 206 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:26,840 received letters from locals about the impact it would have on that which had obviously 207 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:32,840 been well written and obviously had worked on points of the law, which is 208 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,519 brilliant. He said, I'm minded to invite these local peoples to have their 209 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,159 say in open court, and I am minded to review what's gone on with 210 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,200 Carmarthen show cancel and there appeal against this, and I'm minded to have a 211 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,039 bit more of a reflection on this, meaning I need some time to read 212 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,000 this damn thing. But also evidently I learned judges are not that impressed when 213 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,840 sure order stuff happens for short notice stuff, because basically they see what the 214 00:16:55,919 --> 00:16:59,480 person's trying to do, which is kind of trick people. But the win 215 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,840 because as we know here, we take a win when we get what the 216 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,480 police thought they'd be able to start moving people. The hotel owners thought they 217 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,880 could run this through rough shot because the protesters wouldn't be organized. Say protesters, 218 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,920 they're not protesting, they're making a damn stand. They're positively making a 219 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,839 stand. They're not protesting, they're standing up for themselves. That's quite different, 220 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,319 isn't it standing up for Welsh people in Wales? 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Yeah, I 236 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:48,440 think Hollywood is really bound up in pretty much always representing and repackaging this structure 237 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:56,960 of a story when it comes to narratives for villains, heroes escaping, you 238 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:03,359 know, metaphysicalations. So you know, you could go back to movies like 239 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,640 Metropolis, you could go back to movies like two thousand and one by Kubrick. 240 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:12,920 We really find this repeated because there's only so many storylines that you can 241 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:22,799 do. When it comes to liberation narratives and Nazissism is a early Christian heresy. 242 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,559 It's the idea that the physical world that we inhabit is created by an 243 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:33,680 evil God as a kind of a prison, and so there's an escape that 244 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,640 occurs, a liberation that occurs through some sort of knowledge, secret nosis, 245 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:47,359 and hence gnostissism. So the idea is that the way that you escape that 246 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:51,039 and there's not one gnostissism, there's a lot of different gnostic sex In the 247 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:57,440 first three centuries of Christianity. You get versions that are more ascetic, where 248 00:19:57,279 --> 00:20:03,160 you escape through bodily rigor and fasting and sort of becoming a yogi, or 249 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,599 you get versions of it where you overcome through intentional transgression, so you you 250 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:17,680 intentionally try to do evil, live in a really carnal way. So there's 251 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,119 a lot of different types of gnosticism. So it's not but the basic foundation 252 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:26,119 is the idea that the physical created world is evil and so we got to 253 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:33,240 escape it, usually through some kind of knowledge or perhaps ritual or whatever. 254 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,400 And so you'll see in a lot of Hollywood movies the figure like Will Ferrell 255 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:41,519 here, the plays the controller. He's the sort of corporate elite, controlling 256 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:47,240 guy, and he's he's the leader of the patriarchy in the film, in 257 00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:49,839 this world, and so he's always trying to keep Barbie down, try to 258 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,200 keep her in her place. He wants to put her back in her box, 259 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,119 which is supposed to be symbolic for you know, her in her traditional 260 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:02,000 place. You know, keep you in the box, keep you, keep 261 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:06,079 you down, and so you know she has to The whole plot is her 262 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:12,119 overcoming Will Ferrell's control. So I mean, not every tyrant control narrative is 263 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,480 gnostic. But a lot of times when you have these different worlds narratives, 264 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,000 you usually have a patriarchal, controlling figure who represents the creator God, so 265 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:27,160 I think. And that's again it's just a very parallel to the Lego movie 266 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,279 because in the Lego movie, that's exactly what Will Ferrell's doing. He's trying 267 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:36,359 to stop the kid from breaking the rules of how he plays with the Lego 268 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,279 toys, right, because he says, you have to follow the instructions. 269 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:45,640 You can't build the Lego ships and toys or whatever in your own way, 270 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:51,640 and you can't mix up the different characters and put them into different scenarios. 271 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,039 You can't have Batman playing with Legos, you see. So it's violating the 272 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:02,160 rules. And the whole plot is that in order to say of the called 273 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,000 the spark of revolution or something like that, that they have to get this 274 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:11,079 spark of knowledge of nosis, this revolutionary piece which is lost. That's all 275 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,839 straight from the gnosticism. So in the same way, you'll find that pattern 276 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,920 all throughout, you know, I mean with the matrix, right, the 277 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,359 matrix is a the architect is this controlling figure who tries to trap people inside 278 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,920 the matrix, and the neo helps people, you know, fight against the 279 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:30,960 architects. So you know, over and no over know where you see gnosticism 280 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,599 presented in movies. In the Bobby movie, did you see some very overt 281 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:47,559 symbolism, Yeah, I mean it's a little more obvious in this because it's 282 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:52,559 a kids movie, so they weren't heavy per se on symbols. There's a 283 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:57,160 lot of I mean, the structure itself is, as I said, a 284 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:03,440 gnostic storyline and then structure. But I mean when it comes to just straight 285 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:08,000 up symbolism, it was kind of it was kind of low ball, low 286 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:11,319 tiers, so I actually I wouldn't say it was high on symbolism. It 287 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:18,599 was pretty straightforward in what it was presenting. I mean there's something like the 288 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,000 symbolism of the two thousand and one sequence for example. I mean that's a 289 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:27,119 symbolic sequence about human evolution, So human evolution is presented as we were actually 290 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:33,559 a matriarchy and we fell away from that. Do you really think it's a 291 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:41,839 children's movie? I mean, I think they wanted to appeal to audiences across 292 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:47,079 the board, so they wanted it to be you know, kids and parents. 293 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:52,400 So but no, I mean it had quite a few innuendos, had 294 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,599 quite a few you know, adult level of jokes. So I think it 295 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:02,079 was trying to be trying to be opaganda and be funny all at once, 296 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,519 and I think it failed. I mean, there was maybe one funny scene, 297 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,519 but for the most part, now it wasn't very good. And then 298 00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:15,160 alongside the nastic themes the obvious feminism. But yes, what's interesting, and 299 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,440 tell me if you agree with me, But a lot of movies that I've 300 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:25,240 seen have got very obvious feminist themes. Somehow in this movie, they took 301 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,279 it a level up. And I don't know, I don't know how they 302 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:32,400 did that, but they did. Yeah, they took it a level up. 303 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,920 Because usually, you know, we're told things like, you know, 304 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,200 women just have a right to be independent. But this is more of like 305 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:48,559 a metaphysical feminism or it's like a one of the Gnostic gospels is the pistis 306 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:55,640 Sophia, and it's the idea that salvation ultimately has had through the feminine principle 307 00:24:55,799 --> 00:25:00,640 or through the goddess. And you know, whether that's an actual entity or 308 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,720 just symbolic figure or whatever. And however you read gnostissism. It's it's the 309 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:12,319 same idea that it's the masculine figure of the logos or the foul logo centrism 310 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:15,720 as it's called, that imprisons us, that keep us, keeps us in 311 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:19,960 these structures of rules and laws. It's as boundaries, and the feminine principle 312 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,200 is overflowing. It's there's no laws, it's it's raw and nature, no 313 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:32,319 rules. It's revolutionary. And so if you go back to, for example, 314 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,119 the French Revolution, some of the early feminists were radical egalitarians. They 315 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,720 believe that there was an absolute equality between men and women. That eventually becomes 316 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:48,079 the idea that, you know, we're all self determining with no limitations at 317 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,440 all. So you see, we couldn't have where we are with, you 318 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,920 know, the gender revolution without first having feminism. So you get feminism, 319 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,640 and then you get the skills revolution, and then now you get the biological 320 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:07,799 revolution. So they all go together because they're all they're all rebelling against. 321 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,920 Yeah, exactly, that's the next phase. Yeah, exactly. After the 322 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,599 binary and non binary and gender revolutions, you get the transhumanist revolution. Right, 323 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,680 So there's phases to the revolution. But the first of all these was 324 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:26,039 feminism. Feminism was kind of the original, you know, into the modern 325 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:33,480 world with people like Mary Wallstonecraft and other French revolutionary era figures. Then you 326 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:37,160 get the suffrage movement, which was which was the next phase of that revolution. 327 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,440 And so the idea here is that you know, again, there's no 328 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:45,839 there's no structures, there's no logic, there's no there's no rules in biology 329 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,920 and morals and religion and society. Everything can be overturned and evolved. So 330 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,200 it all goes together with you know, the evolutionary philosophy and narratives. So 331 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,839 the whole movie is just about the supremacy of the matriarchy. And yes, 332 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:07,640 exactly at the end when when the Ken Revolution fails and the Kens then say, 333 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,000 well, you know, we learned our lesson, can we at least 334 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,920 have one man on the Supreme Court? And they say, no, you're 335 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,480 not ready for that. You haven't involved yet to be able to handle that 336 00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:29,000 responsibility. But that's also an observation that I made that it's not only the 337 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:34,480 matriarchal superior superiority that they're pushing in the movie. It's that men are inferior, 338 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,160 are absolutely useless. I mean there's that scene in which they enter the 339 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,599 real world and a guy comes up to her and slaps her on the butt. 340 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,839 That doesn't happen in reality. Well, I mean if you go to 341 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,160 Egypt, that does. I mean, wife got her butt slips when she 342 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,720 went to Egypt. So it depends on where you come. But yeah, 343 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,079 I mean the idea that in I mean, I think the idea is that, 344 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:06,559 oh, women are oppressed in any society where you have men, uh 345 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,640 in a patriarchal role, that necessitates the oppression of women. Because the whole 346 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:18,039 point of the movie, like you said, is that we were afraid of 347 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,039 women running things, and it's because of our insecurities as men that we don't 348 00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:27,240 want women running running things because we feel like we have to show off. 349 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,359 Right. If you remember, Ken is always doing what he's doing to show 350 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:37,000 out for Barbie, and Ken eventually has to learn the hard way that oh, 351 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:40,599 no, uh, you see, poor you know, poor Ken, 352 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:45,519 You're you're so unsophisticated, your rule by your your bodily desires. You know. 353 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:51,359 When when ken revolution happens, he basically makes the Barbie into his servant 354 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,920 and she just brings them beer and looks cute, right, So the idea 355 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,079 is that that's oppressive to women when when men rule, it's because insecurities and 356 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,720 because we are tyrants and all this nonsense. And the reality is that, 357 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,599 you know, both men and women are fallen, and we both have our 358 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:17,319 vices and our virtues, but there's nothing inherently wrong about you know, just 359 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:22,319 just think about the fact that if the corporate structure is inherently tyrannical, which 360 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:26,960 is what we're supposed to think, then why is it that we just need 361 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,160 women in the corporate structure. I mean, now the women are going to 362 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,200 be the tyrants. Oh no, you see, we won't be tyrants because 363 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,359 women are loving and peaceful. Now that's just not true. I mean women 364 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,519 are full of envy. Women envy each other, They gossip about each other, 365 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:45,799 they backbite. I mean, both sexes have their own vices, So 366 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,559 just having one sex above the other sex is not inherently necessarily going to make 367 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,720 the world or life more virtuous or more peaceful or whatever. So it's just 368 00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:04,400 silly. And they also really drive home the point that men are just corrupt 369 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:12,960 and are unable to govern in any kind of normal, reasonable fashion. I 370 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,359 mean, it goes even further than that. I mean they go into the 371 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,039 point of that, you know that actually, if women ran things, you 372 00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,839 would have this sort of pseudo utopia, would have an almost utopia, right, 373 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:30,400 because women in the ideal world, when when they ran things before Barbie 374 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:36,640 has her fall and they introduce corruption and decay into the Barbie world, it's 375 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,960 it's it's it's eaten. It's perfect. Right, you have an all female 376 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,599 Supreme Court. Men know their role. Men kind of just attend to the 377 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,119 women and they do what women want. But the iron, of course, 378 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,279 is that women don't like men that do whatever women want. I mean, 379 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:57,559 that's just women don't like beta males. Women like alpha males. And so 380 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,599 the iron is that when when Ken becomes just a little alpha, right, 381 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:10,559 the movie has to present this as a tyranny, and I mean it's explicit 382 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:12,920 and it's not my interpretation. He's explicit because when Ken comes to this world 383 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,640 and he sees that it's a patriarchal tyranny, he starts checking out books on 384 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,599 men's rights stuff. He's basically, you know, over there reading men's rights 385 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,559 books. He's got a whole stack of them. Then he checks out the 386 00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:29,039 library and then when he gets back to ken world. You know, he 387 00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:33,200 starts lifting weights, he dresses like a pimp, and he starts, he 388 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:38,680 starts basically setting up this uh you know, ridiculous like what the caricature of 389 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:45,440 masculinity, right, which is more like just a teenage dude basically horses and 390 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:51,599 cowboys exactly. And the funny part about that too, if you remember what's 391 00:31:51,640 --> 00:32:00,759 that Barbie and her crew of women, they get together and they basically they 392 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,680 engage in a big black pink ops set of black ops. Is a pink 393 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,519 Ops revolution to divide and conquer, and so they have to because of course 394 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:12,839 they outsmart the men. Men are men aren't smart enough to figure out you 395 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440 know, black ops and running civilization and all that. So, I mean 396 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,319 it's totally contrary to all history, right, I mean, men build civilization, 397 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:22,000 right, I mean they you know, think that they engineer. It's 398 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:28,640 not women that are out there building you know, supercomputers and building you know, 399 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,559 giant engineering feats. It's men that do these jobs. And everybody knows 400 00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:35,759 that, but we're being told that, No, no, it's it's the 401 00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,799 other way around, you see, as totally inversion, just total fiction, 402 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,680 totally made up. But that's part of the philosophy of the revolution is that 403 00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:49,839 it has to constantly invert things, has to constantly lie about reality in order 404 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,200 to overthrow reality because the that's the philosophy of revolution, is that it has 405 00:32:54,279 --> 00:33:01,240 to constantly go against norms, structures, rules, law and order. But 406 00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:07,440 the irony, though, is that I'm trying to wrap that around some of 407 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,839 these narratives in the movie. Uh, this utopia from where Bobby and can 408 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,720 come is plastic and it doesn't it's not real. So in a way, 409 00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:23,400 it doesn't matter if if Bobby or Bobby's govern it because it's not real. 410 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,559 Well it's it's not real, but it's the ideal, you see, So 411 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:37,559 it's it's even though it's an imaginary world, it's real because we are as 412 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960 children, you know, if you look at like PJ and child psychology and 413 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,920 this kind of stuff, we we're programmed as children through what we see as 414 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,440 the ideal world. Right, so if we're told as children that it's ideal 415 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:59,480 for women to be like Barbie. Now women have these unrealistic standards supposedly that 416 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,000 that are possible that they have to try to meet, and that's oppress it. 417 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,239 And the idea is that men have given us that in the in the 418 00:34:07,239 --> 00:34:14,360 movie, the ideas that you know, men men have determined that Barbie is 419 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,719 the impossible ideal. And this makes women feel bad because if they're fat, 420 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,119 if they're unattractive, that's the fault of the patriarchy oppressing them to make them 421 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:28,480 like the ideal. So it's not really about what's real and what's false. 422 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:36,800 It's about how we're programmed through supposedly what we think of as the ideal. 423 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,519 You see, and the film is saying that it's it's been unfair for men 424 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,320 to create these things like Barbie. I'm some about in the story. I 425 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,320 know that the woman is the real creator of Barbie. But if you notice 426 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,800 in the movie the woman the real creator of Barbie. The woman shows up 427 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,519 and she talks about how you know, they have put her in this uh, 428 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,559 you know, basement room, and they're not really listening to what she 429 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:08,199 said about Barbie. And Will Farell, the patriarch is the bumbling buffoon demiurge 430 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:14,800 patriarch is controlling things and he's a tyrant. So that's the whole point is 431 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:21,239 that is to rebel against the ideals that men have said up, the false 432 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,599 ideals. It's just quick, didn't to go to my loss to d break. 433 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,840 Be back with you shortly. My name is Jim chatting to Jade. 434 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,719 This is TNT Radio. Give me a minute with TNT Radio is Steve Mahlsburg. 435 00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:35,679 You've heard me talk about how pathetic Republicans are getting their message across. 436 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,239 They can't combat the phony narratives of the media and the left. But listen 437 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,519 to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu push back at ABC's George Stephanopolis, who has 438 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:49,960 been ripping him for Israel's recent judicial reform. Imagine that in the United States, 439 00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,840 the Supreme Court could tell the executive the president, Okay, we are 440 00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:59,760 nullifying any one of your decisions just based on something that we we think is 441 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,679 on You would not accept it. We don't accept it. That was last 442 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,239 week. Here he is on CNN in February before the kindesset pass the reform. 443 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,639 Britain doesn't have a constitution like us, and the court cannot rule down, 444 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:20,760 strike down any decision of the British Parliament. Here's a country that has 445 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,360 exactly this provision. It's called Canada. This Canada not a democracy. Is 446 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,440 Britain not a democracy? Is New Zealand not a democracy because they all have 447 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:34,440 either have this provisions of such a provision or have no ability of the court 448 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,679 to strike. That was with Jake Tapper on CNN. A lesson for Republicans 449 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:44,400 here in fighting misinformation and fake news biomission courtesy of Benjamin Netan Yahoo. Thanks 450 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,880 for giving me a minute. I'm Steve Malsburg for TNT Radio. Melissa from 451 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,840 Michigan. I work an extra part time job serving lunch at my child school, 452 00:36:54,719 --> 00:37:00,000 but I so can't afford to put food on our table. Daniel from 453 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:04,880 California. Choosing whether to pay the rent or pay to fix the car to 454 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,320 get to work doesn't leave us with much at all. Now we can't even 455 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:13,280 pay for meals. Hunger is a story. We can end end it at 456 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,079 Feeding America dot org. Brought to you by Feeding America and the AD Council. 457 00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:24,679 Jerem Warfare is Jeremy now on today's news talk radio tnt J. I 458 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:30,119 count remember who made the quote. Might have been a US president. I 459 00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:36,599 just caun't remember, but something about behind every great man there is a great 460 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,119 woman or a woman, or something to that effect. I think you know 461 00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:44,679 more or less what I'm referring to h do you think that society ready is 462 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:52,239 patriarchal in terms of its governance oftentimes typically Yeah, just for kind of obvious 463 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,679 reasons that you know, in the history of the world, women have tended 464 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:04,159 to be the caregivers, the raising the children and turning to the household. 465 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,079 And I think there's a reason for that. It's not just made up roles. 466 00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:14,000 It's actually part of our biology. It's part of kind of what we 467 00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:19,280 just naturally tend to. Men are geared towards going out into the world, 468 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,880 bringing home the bacon. Women are geared towards their very biology, you know, 469 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:30,159 having children, and so modern world is revolutionary and that it's intent on 470 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,119 going against these things. It's it's it's all about rebelling against that. So 471 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:39,960 I think it's just a it's it's it's obvious, it's self evident in nature 472 00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:44,920 that that's how we are made. Yeah, I think I was being a 473 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,320 bit more jovial in the sense that, you know, we don't just you 474 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,719 know, bulldoze our wives. You know, we we we asked them and 475 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,840 they'll they'll give us their opinion. Yeah, it's a reciprocal Yeah, it's 476 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,800 a reciprocal relationship and ship. It's a it's not a type tyranny, and 477 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,760 it's the idea that the idea is that all forms of hierarchy are inherently oppressive 478 00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:14,199 and are destructive. But the problem is that the same people want women in 479 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,800 power. Well, now wait a minute, so it's not actually having authority 480 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,159 or hierarchical structures the end that are the problem, because you just want the 481 00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:25,320 power. So if you if women are in power, how are we not 482 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,840 going to be oppressed? Well, the ideas, oh, because women are 483 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:36,159 better you see. So it's all premised on you know bs basically. Another 484 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:43,800 observation in the Bobby movie that I noticed was how they always made Ken in 485 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,800 a subservient position to Bobby. For example, when they were driving in the 486 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,960 car, he said at the back at the end where they were talking, 487 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,159 he was physically lower than her on his knees, you know, like an 488 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:55,960 absolute weakling, you know. And then at once, at at one point 489 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,199 in the movie he said to it, I exist because of you. Yeah, 490 00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,719 I mean, that's what I'm saying. That's why I said he's beta. 491 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,280 I mean the whole time, he's a beta orbiter. He does whatever 492 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:14,760 she wants. He's he defines himself according to her, he shows out trying 493 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,639 to win her favor, and the whole thing is him simping for her. 494 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,920 And the irony, of course, is that she doesn't like him and doesn't 495 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,119 find him attractive. And so I mean that part of the movie I think 496 00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:30,320 is accurate because nobody, I mean I thought that that women, uh you 497 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,159 know, do women like Alpha's are not right? I mean, if Ken 498 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,159 is unattractive, then the movie is admitting that that women don't like Beta's. 499 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,639 But then in the in the end, ultimately Ken doesn't come out of that. 500 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:51,440 He's just simply told at the end that she says, it's no longer 501 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:55,239 Ken and Barbie or Barbie and Ken. She's like, how about I'm Barbie 502 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,360 and your Ken, and you be you and I'll be me. You see, 503 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:05,480 So it's we're independent and they both come to some degree of self realization, 504 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,639 right, I mean, eventually Barbie becomes kind of sheet. There's they 505 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:13,480 make it a point to show her coming to self consciousness and self realization, 506 00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:15,920 like she realizes that, oh, I'm I'm my own independent thing. I 507 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:22,039 don't I'm not defined by another person or a role. I'm whatever I wanted. 508 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,280 To find myself as and it's the same way with Ken to a degree. 509 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:31,639 He comes to realize that he's independent and he doesn't need Barbie either. 510 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,599 But the reality is that we need other human beings. We can't rebel against 511 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:44,920 our roles. You see now bringing this conversation paradoxically into the real world. 512 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,639 You know, some people will ask you me the last few days, well, 513 00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:52,079 why do UK, why are you even going to dedicate a whole conversation 514 00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:57,840 to this? But there is a cultural impact, isn't they? Well yeah, 515 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,960 I mean millions and millions of girls are watching this movie, So this 516 00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:10,159 is essentially socially engineering an entire generation of young girls. I know that. 517 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:15,719 You know, like I said about toys, I mean, in my generation, 518 00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:21,519 the social engineering of the toys, which was again literally coming out of 519 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:24,000 the Pentagon. I mean I even have entire lectures talking about the guy who 520 00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:30,440 was the Pentagon consultant on the toys and the cartoons. I mean, it's 521 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:34,559 just the newest phase of the revolution, right, So the revolution has to 522 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:40,760 in the culture express itself in all forms. So just like in the Cold 523 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:46,400 War with Francis Stunner Saunders and the cultural Cold War, I mean the CIA 524 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,519 was pushing feminism in the nineteen sixties because they saw it as an advantageous approach 525 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:57,320 against the Soviets. So they were funding Miss magazine, they were funding Gloria 526 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,199 Stein, and they were funding Playboy, they were funding Andy war Hall, 527 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,039 they were funding Jackson Pollock, on and on and on, because the arts 528 00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:08,039 were seen as a key way to engage in the cultural Cold War. And 529 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:15,440 that continues today with all forms of the arts still being appendages of the Cold 530 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,400 War, of the of the culture war, and so the establishment, which 531 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,880 has taken the so called revolution to its next phase, they're just continuing to 532 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:30,920 push the new phase of the cultural cold War, which is telling girls that 533 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,840 not just feminism or third wave feminism, but now biological revolution. Right. 534 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,480 That's that's how Barbie ends. Is that you determine the purpose of your body 535 00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:44,679 parts. No one can tell you what the meaning of those things is. 536 00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:50,599 Someone asked a great question a few days ago, what do you think Mattel 537 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:57,079 makes of this? What do you mean? I mean, do you think 538 00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:00,679 that do you think that they're making millions of dollars? Billions of dollars? 539 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,199 I guess what do you mean? All right? So they don't care about 540 00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:07,440 the messaging as such. No, they do. That's what I'm saying. 541 00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,079 Like, it's not just about the money. I'm saying there's a deeper level 542 00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:14,519 beyond this, right, I mean, think about all of the I mean, 543 00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:17,239 if this is just about money, then then the companies would listen to 544 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,239 you know, go WoT go broke. But they don't care. They keep 545 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,960 they keep charging forward with the message because the message is more important even than 546 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,840 the profits. That's because these corporations Fortune one d Fortune five hundred. I 547 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960 mean, that is the new world order. The new world Order, isn't 548 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,400 you know Stalin or nineteen eighty four. It's uh, it's Barbie. Barbie 549 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,400 is the new world Order. It's the Fortune one hundred. That's the new 550 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,320 world order. So absolutely, Mattel and all these corporations are on board with 551 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,440 us. I mean, you know, they were putting out social engineering via 552 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,480 the toys in the nineteen eighties, so absolutely they're part of it. M 553 00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:04,440 So, what I was thinking about the other day is the messaging of this 554 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,039 movie is so hard, it's so in your face. And I'm also a 555 00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:15,320 believa in silver linings, I try and find a positive spin. Do you 556 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,199 think that there will be a count of pushback to this, to this movie 557 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,119 and to the cultural impact that it's going to have. I think we're already 558 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:30,159 seeing a pushback with red pill stuff, for all of its flaws. I 559 00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:34,880 think we've been seeing pushback, you know, when the manosphere started to pop 560 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,079 up on the scene in twenty ten, twenty eleven, twelve thirteen. You 561 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:44,880 know, there's a lot of dubious figures that are part of this, uh 562 00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:51,039 this idea online, but regardless of their motives, it does express pushback. 563 00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,360 So, you know, I've been commenting on a lot of the red pill 564 00:45:53,400 --> 00:46:00,599 stuff in the last several months because it's popular again, and it's part popular 565 00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:05,400 because we're going into a new election coming up, and a lot of times 566 00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:08,880 these these issues come up before election season, and a lot of the red 567 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:15,199 pill people then they turn into political commentators because they're just riding various waves. 568 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,559 But regardless, there is reaction to this because people are realizing that it's just 569 00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:24,239 simply absurd and it's not true. You know, there are there are some 570 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:30,480 matriarchal civilizations, but they're few and far between, and they're not really matriarchal 571 00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:36,800 in the sense that you know, movies and revolutionary philosophy presents them as matriarchal 572 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,239 societies. Are even the ones in the West that have existed. I mean 573 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,880 there's they're no different than the patriarchal societies of the West. I mean they 574 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:52,280 essentially have all the same characteristics and flaws. I mean, is the Queen 575 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,280 of England? Is that a matriarchal society for the last before she passed away? 576 00:46:55,599 --> 00:47:00,320 I mean it was pretty much engaged in all the same subter few huge 577 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:06,559 deception degeneracy is any of the patriarchal society, so that they maybe even worse. 578 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:10,039 So, you know, we're getting girl bosses everywhere, We're getting you 579 00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:15,360 know, slay queens leaning into their CEO profession. Is it? Are things 580 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:21,079 getting better? I don't think so. What do you think would happen? 581 00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:24,480 Though? If let's just pretend for a second that they get they get there, 582 00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:29,719 they wish that men disappear. I mean the whole thing will just fall 583 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,559 apart. I mean it's just complete nonsense. So in other way, I 584 00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:37,599 think the game, Yeah, the elite that have been pushing this don't care 585 00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:38,559 about that. That's part of their goal. I mean, if you go 586 00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:45,000 back to Rockefellers, they themselves brag about promoting feminism, especially third wave feminism. 587 00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:49,000 I mean Abby. There's a whole chapter in the Rockfeller's biography on Abby 588 00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,719 Rockfeller putting a lot of money into third wave feminism. You know, Aaron 589 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:59,079 Russo did his famous interview with Nick Rockefeller about how they created modern feminism to 590 00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:02,920 get women out of the household, to have another giant half of the population 591 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,039 that's taxable. You know that. You can look at the Jaffee memo from 592 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:13,239 Rockefeller playing parenthood in nineteen sixty nine. Berylson Jaffee memo says that make it 593 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,199 harder and harder for families to have children. One of the ways you do 594 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,400 that is you get the women out of the household, as Nick Rockefeller said, 595 00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:24,039 was done by design. That's to destroy future generations population control. So 596 00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:30,559 feminism, just like all of the castration that's going on, is just part 597 00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:35,599 of the say, overall agenda of wrecking, destroying, and bringing down society 598 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,039 so that it can be managed in the technocracy. It's in other words, 599 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:46,639 what Bobby is all about is depopulation, transhumanism, the destruction of the family. 600 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,039 The movie is not about that. But the movie is not about that, 601 00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:53,360 but the movie is the movie is part of the culture war which has 602 00:48:53,440 --> 00:49:00,280 that as its goal. M it's a funny commentary on the live chat. 603 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,320 It's okay, guys, we have birthing pods for fake babies under Brave World. 604 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,760 You can also have a butt baby two if you're a man. Oh 605 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,800 of course, yes? What was the other term that I saw? An 606 00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,599 a non men or I forget now or non woman? I don't know. 607 00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:22,280 I can't keep up, Jay, but I mean, you better, you 608 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,400 better keep up because if you don't, you're a bigot. You have to 609 00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:30,039 use whatever. The latest download of politically correct terms is if you don't, 610 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:34,960 you're If you don't, you should you should die. We're coming into the 611 00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:37,679 last lap now of the conversation. But where do you see this going? 612 00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:43,159 I was, I was looking for silver lining, and it does seem a 613 00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:47,920 little bit dark, doesn't it. The silver lining is that all of this 614 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,119 stuff is so unnatural, it's so against our very biology, that it's very 615 00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:57,800 difficult to push all of this. But they're doing it anyway, right, 616 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,800 And I think a lot of people are seeing how absurd and how you know, 617 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:07,679 I mean, men are dominating women's sports men. Bruce Jenner is Woman 618 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,880 of the Year. I mean, it's getting absurd, and so hopefully that 619 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,880 will continue to wake people up to just how revolutionary and silly it is. 620 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:21,320 And you know, if we don't, there's gonna be a collapse of civilization. 621 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,360 And if there's a collapse, the leftist and women are going to learn 622 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:32,159 very quickly that when things collapse, all of these ideals don't match up very 623 00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:36,280 well to the real world. When you have if we have a mad Max 624 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,840 scenario, it's not going to be a major right, So you're gonna you're 625 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:44,320 gonna be returned to a state of brutality. And in a state of brutality, 626 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,159 you're gonna be following whoever has the will to power. So it's going 627 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,960 to be very brutal. So if we all, if we want to go 628 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,639 back to brutality, if we don't want to listen to this is the problem 629 00:50:54,679 --> 00:51:00,360 is that you can't have a world of no order and no st structure. 630 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:07,800 It falls to brutality. And when you dispense with order and structure and logos, 631 00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:16,119 you get the revolutionary philosophy of chaos and the darker elements that foster revolution. 632 00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:21,639 As Father Star from Rose points out, The end result of this isn't 633 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,599 liberty, equality and freedom. It's nihilism and nihilisms of end, death and 634 00:51:25,679 --> 00:51:30,480 destruction. So that's the end result. I wonder if there's a little bit 635 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,639 of an own goal scored in the Barby movie, though, I mean it 636 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,679 was so a male but yet an own goal. They scored their own goal 637 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,719 in the sense that there was so anti mail, but more than half of 638 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:52,719 the movie was dedicated to male actors and the male characters. I hadn't thought 639 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,239 about that, but I think that, you know, screen time is not 640 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,519 that big of a deal because it's dedicated to really kind of parroting and satirizing 641 00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:10,239 traditional roles. So what it is to be a man is lampooned as absurd. 642 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,440 Right. It's ken when he when he when he when he becomes quote 643 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,400 manly, you know, he acts like what a sixteen year old thinks. 644 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:22,639 You know. It's like I lay around and I drink beer, and you 645 00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:28,320 know, she gets it for me, right, Like she she wears a 646 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,199 French made outfit and brings me the beer. And it's like that's not reality, 647 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,320 right, I mean, that's not how the world really works, right, 648 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,400 unless you're like, you know, a millionaire with servants or something, 649 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:44,440 and that's not most people. So you know, the masculine element was was 650 00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:50,559 really only mocked throughout the film exactly. So yeah, screen time, I 651 00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:52,719 don't think it matters that the whole purpose is just sort of mock what it 652 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,559 is to be to be masculine. And and it's no different than all the 653 00:52:57,559 --> 00:53:00,960 commercials. I mean, you will you watch commercials, and all the commercials 654 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:06,760 present men as just completely idiotic beta you know, guys that just mess things 655 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,679 up, and then they have to listen to the woman who has all the 656 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:14,239 reasoning and sophistication. Okay, we are running out of time, and Jay, 657 00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:16,480 I'll just quickly end up by saying Rachel Wilson said to me the other 658 00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:22,559 day that the irony is that probably everything that made that movie happen was developed 659 00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:28,199 by a man. Well, they brought on a woman to be the director, 660 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,400 but yeah, everything else, I'm sure it was. How can I 661 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:37,559 follow you? Just? James analysis dot com is my website with my archive. 662 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:43,119 You can subscribe to me there for ten years worth of lectures and podcasts 663 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,760 and part twos, and then you can follow me on all these social media's 664 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:52,199 under my name. Jay. You are an absolute legend when it comes to 665 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,360 analyzing Hollywood. God vessu you and your work. Thank you for joining me 666 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,519 in the trauntion. Thanks man, thanks for having me appreciate it an absolute 667 00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:04,920 pleasure. And thank you to Alex for keeping things going for this hour. 668 00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:10,320 Up next is Steve Hook. Listen. I strongly recommend go and watch well 669 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,880 Jay's analysis of the Bobby movie. But your man he is. Wee's website 670 00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:23,280 is full full of incredible insights. I'm hoping. I'm hoping to have Jay 671 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,280 back. There is so much about Hollywood that I want to chat to him 672 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,280 about. But for now, Up next to Steve Hook. Send me an 673 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,800 email jem Warfare at t nt Rady dot Live. My name is Jem. 674 00:54:35,840 --> 00:55:07,599 This is jem Warfare The Battle of Ideas.