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This is Gary and Shannon and you're
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The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio Appen. Hey Gary,

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Hey Shannon, this is an easy, hard working long storm and down

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here is pork. We're busier than
buzier than bees down here. Hey,

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uh, Gary, Man, I
don't know. Some people calling up telling

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me you're dumb. You're not dumb. You're a smart guy. Man,

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Thank you the hell they thinking?
And Shannon, I've been mainlining mozzarella stream

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cheese the last couple of nights.
Yeah, And I don't know, man,

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I tend to have better dreams when
I have cheese before I go to

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bed. Yeah, true story.
And you know what that is a very

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low calorie cheese. You've chosen HS
dreams. Remember our friend who said,

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I'm sorry, I don't swear a
lot, but how the fuck is this

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legal? Yes? And I think
he works. Hey Gary, Shannon,

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that guy was cool. That guy
should be our president. He's the best.

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That's what we need. Somebody that's
his all the time and talking.

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I like that guy. That guy
for president. My vote. We haven't

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had an f at Friday for a
long time. And that is apparently what's

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happening. We didn't even try.
It's time for swamp watch. Swamp is

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horrible. Government doesn't work. Man, make it like a reality TV show.

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A bad always a pleasure to be
anywhere from Washington, d C.

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Hey Joe, a town all too
clearly built on a swamp and in so

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many ways still a swamp. I
have to watch a malwarkee. What he

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said, drained the swamp. I
said, Oh, that's so he wash.

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You know the thing. One of
the biggest bombs for Biden dropped on

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Wednesday with that op ed by George
Clooney saying it's time to step aside.

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Another massive bomb dropped today in the
New York Times with the big donors telling

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the largest pro Biden super pack that
they have frozen their money ninety million in

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pledged donation frozen if he remains on
top of the ticket. That is,

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that is where it's going to come
from. That's where the pressure is going

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to come. Not eighteen members of
the House, Democratic members of the House,

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not even a senator who's going to
come out and say it's going to

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be the money, because listen,
money is driven or sorry, politics is

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driven by money. There is supposed
to be a campaign rally in Michigan today

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for President Biden after that news conference
from yesterday and mixed reviews. The bar

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was very, very low, and
he he covered it. He met that

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they. I don't think he did
better than expectations. I don't think he

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did worse. He didn't do.
The only thing age does is helping with

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it creates a little bit of wisdom
if you pay attention. Yes, this

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was not a great way to start. The very first he hit about eight

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or nine minutes and prepared remarks and
then started with this, why can't you

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be AOK. I wouldn't have picked
Vice President Trump to be vice president,

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so I think she's not qualified to
be president. That would start there.

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That was the first thing he said. Once the teleprompter was turned off.

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That was the first question. And
I understand that with age comes wisdom.

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But then step aside and be a
consultant for the next Democratic president. Let

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them consult you, let them call
you up, live your life, relax,

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don't have the grueling schedule that is
the sitting president of the United States.

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I had the thought, I mean, if everybody wanted to talk about

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his bona fides when it came to
foreign policy, which I think he did

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well. I mean, and I
would hope that he would do well.

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He's the president should yeah, he
could be the secretary of State. And

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then I thought about, wait a
minute, think of the travel schedule of

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the secretary of State, probably four
or five times more grueling than the president,

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just in terms of they they have
to go on a moment's notice.

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How many times has Anthony Blincoln been
back and forth from the Middle East in

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the last seven or eight months,
and that just as an example. And

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if travel is one of the things
that drags him down, admittedly he says

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it is, then you don't want
him to do that, you know.

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I was wondering, continuing to wonder
why they nicknamed that the Big Boy Press

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Conference. It wasn't something that the
administration came up with. It was something

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that they adopted from somebody in the
media. Why would you go with that?

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And the only thing that I can
think of is they're trying to make

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light of it. Yeah, and
this is not a job to make light

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of. And this is not a
moment in American history to make light of.

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It's very serious. I'm most amazed
at the number of people who refuse

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to to trust their own eyes when
it comes to this right and beyond any

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sort of feelings about politics or anything, there is a determination that we all

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have have to make about who it
is that's leading the country. You can

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like him, you can hate him. You can think he's the best president,

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you can think he's the worst president, you can think he's better than

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the alternative. Whatever you want to
believe. But there is something going on

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here and we can't just ignore it. We can't just close our eyes and

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put our fingers in our ears and
go, I don't see it. I

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don't know what you're talking about.
But Jamie Harrison is the chair of the

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DNC and wants to talk about a
master class that was held last night at

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that news conference. Listen. I
think he was clear, I think he

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was strong and really, Chris,
he put on a master class in terms

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of complex international foreign policy tonight and
listen. He is good at foreign policy.

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He knows the things that he's got
to say. But he didn't wow

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me with anything. Now that does
not, by definition, does not constitute

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a master class. He was already
a disadvantage when he ran for president the

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first time, because he's not a
great orator. He's just not. And

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what happens is whatever skill set you
have, it starts to dwindle a little

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bit. That's just hopefully we all
get there. I'm just curious why you

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guys aren't talking about Project twenty five
or Project twenty twenty five. Very interesting,

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very interesting. No one wants to
talk about it, but there's a

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lot of chatter of what's going on. Crazy? Okay, we'll do Project

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twenty twenty five when we come back. It's not a thing. I mean,

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it's a everybody wants to blow.
It's this small smoldering fire that everybody's

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trying to blow oxygen into and throw
gasoline on the fire. But it's I

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don't You're not just a surrogate.
You're somebody who's getting text messages and emails

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every day to consider running. How
do you handle all of that? Delete?

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Delete, delete, thank you,
delete and rents repeat. I'm all

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in no daylight. You never even
engage in it privately? No, I

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don't, absolutely not, absolutely not. I know one thing, everything you

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do in private becomes public. Private
thoughts, that's publicly friends, Yeah,

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everything you do, everything you do
in private becomes public he did you see

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the s eating grin on his face
or in that whole thing. Yes,

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it's awful. It's just it's so
it's just conniving, like it's so backstabby.

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He was asked at a news conference
yesterday by the Way about George Clooney's

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op ed piece in the New York
Times suggesting that Joe Biden not be at

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the top of the table governor.
Following up on the national topic that was

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brought up yesterday, George Clooney says
that that Joe Biden America saw during on

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the debate stage, it's the same
one that he saw at the Peacock Theater.

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You were there at the fundraiser,
and you were there at the debate.

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Are you not seeing what he sees? No, well, we've been

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I think all of us that were
at that fundraiser wondering what they were thinking

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is scheduling the president who just got
overseas to a fundraiser late at night.

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And I came home very exhausted that
night, and all I had to do

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was fly down from Sacramento to LA
And I think the first comments I had

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to the President were like, who
did your schedule? I can't couldn't even

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handle three hours and a red eye
let alone coming from overseas. So to

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me, that's those are two different
things. The person I show up at

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that fundraiser was a human being like
any of us, exhausted. But as

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it relates to the debate, that's
a that's a whole different debate and conversation.

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Okay, So so hold on a
second. So, yes, I

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did see him in diminished capacity.
Yes, he seemed tired. Yes he

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was not coherent. Yes there were
problems, but he was tired. And

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that's different than what we saw at
the debate. That that's that was his

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that was his response to us.
Yeah, no pull, no poll says

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that. Hakeem Jeffries sent a letter
to the Democrats in the House today.

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He said that he met with President
Biden last night. It was a meeting

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he asked for. He says,
in my conversation with President Biden, I

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directly express the full breadth of insight, heartfelt perspectives and conclusions about the path

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forward that the Caucus has shared in
our recent time together. Nowhere in this

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short three paragraph letter to his Democratic
colleagues does he say I'm writing and dying

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with Joe Biden or anything anything close
to that. And we mentioned this at

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the beginning of Swamp Watch, the
ninety million dollars that is currently on hold.

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One of the largest political action committee
supporting President Biden has said that that

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ninety million dollars in fundraising money pledge
donations specifically, is on hold if President

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Biden remains at the top of the
ticket. Well, you don't want to

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fund something that you're not going to
get the fruits of your labor. You

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don't want to throw you're an age
money after bad Yeah, yeah, Okay,

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So the Project twenty twenty five thing. Project twenty twenty five is about

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a nine hundred page written plan for
very conservative slash Republican policies on just about

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every aspect of American life. Christian
backing Heritage Foundation. Yeah. So there

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are questions people are trying to tie
this to Trump, and there's a couple

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of reasons why I don't think he
has anything to do with it. I

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know there are what is it,
one hundred and twenty five or one hundred

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and forty people who have written parts
of this worked in the Trump White House

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or worked in the Trump administration at
some point. But he has said he

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has no idea about it, and
doesn't endorse it and doesn't agree with parts

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of it, but he will take
those conservative religious votes. He'll gladly do

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that. Yes, But my point
is, this is a nine hundred page

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document. There is no way on
this God's green earth that he is going

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to spend any time reading any word
of a nine hundred page document, even

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if it were to help him in
the campaign. That's not who he is.

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So listen. He may agree with
parts of it, but this is

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not his thing, this is not
his style. And then listen, to

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be frank, a lot of this
stuff isn't going to go anywhere. A

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lot of it is way too far
to the right to be appreciated or endorsed

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by the vast swath of the middle
of this country. He's not going to

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vote for banning pornography. No,
he knows all the money that's in pornography.

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I suppose Hi, Gary hy Shannon, I'm excited for Steve Gregory's news show.

