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Welcome to teen Girl Talk. Teen
Girl Talk. I'm see Zakota. I'm

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Frank Nakota, and this week I'm
doing an extra credit. I haven't done

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one of these in a while.
But we said, like two months ago

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we would finish Curl summer, and
Frank was like, I cannot. I

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just I can't. I won't.
I refuse on principal alone, I will

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not. So I'm going it's so
low. And I watched all six episodes

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of the remaining season two yesterday and
I had already seen them. But goodness

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gracious, when you binge it does
it make the the glaring issues with the

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season so much more evident. So, Frank, can you just catch the

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listener up on what you remember from
the first four episodes of season two.

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We are split between nineteen ninety nine
and two thousand. Uh huh wait,

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summer ninety nine, Winter ninety nine, summer two thousand, respectively. It's

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a six month increments. We have
our one of our protagonists, but I

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don't remember the name of so I'm
just gonna call her Megan. Yeah,

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she lives in a van. No, you're talking about Isabella. She lives

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in an airstream trailer. Okay,
listening airstream trailer. She is not a

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van lifer. She lives in a
van street fanstream trailer fan stream. Okay,

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you're like some combination of those words. She has mom who's kind of

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loopy, who not her mom.
Okay, wait, I'll give you just

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a brief overview of the Landry family. The Landry family is Debbie, that's

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the loopy mom who sometimes has cancer, sometimes doesn't, depending on who wrote

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the episode. We have Megan,
the older sister. She is one of

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her main protagonists. We have little
sister that disappears for three quarters of the

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show and the writers continuously forget about. Then we have Isabella, who is

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an exchange student that Debbie is putting
up in the airstream trailer. Yeah,

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she has a mysterious past. Yes, Megan will go from like upbeat popular

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team and make the cruel summer transition
to possibly smelly team but also kind of

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a golf hacker between definitely greasy,
like whatever they decided to style her hair

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in, it's like so much pomade. Yeah, between summer nineteen ninety nine

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and summer two thousand and For our
douchey dudes, we have Luke who has

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been best friends with Megan since growing
up. She has a little bit of

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a crush on him, but it
doesn't want to ruin the friendship. So

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when Isabella says, Hey, I'm
interested in Luke, do you mind if

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I hit that, Megan's like,
have at it. Luke has a terrible

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other older brother named Brent, who
makes videotapes of people he is intimate with

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without their consent. They have a
terrible dad named Steve. They have a

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dead mom, and Steve basically runs
the entire town of Chatham, which is

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in the Pacific Northwest, and he
is an overbearing dad that wants his son

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to follow in his foots steps.
Luke Brent already is, but Luke wants

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to become a cop and is super
tight with the sheriff. Brent likes to

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achieve his sex tapes among the family
videos. That is true. This for

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a dude house. It's pristine,
but also has the logic of a dude

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has where you would mix in family
memories with your ill gotten sex tapes.

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Yeah, let's see, Well,
Steve is definitely the type of guy who

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would hire a maid service and be
really condescending to them constantly. Yes,

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Okay. So, starting in episode
five, we see Isabella writing postcards to

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Lisa. Oh no, that's dead, but that was also true. That's

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just such a funny way to t
look's dead. Season in death, not

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like he's a ghost, but he
doesn't know what type thing. He dies

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somewhere between Winter nineteen ninety nine and
Summer nineteen ninety nine. This is also

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he does not die Summer two thousand, frank Like, the time travel element

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gets very complicated in this show.
And also at the winter, the confusing

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Winter nineteen ninety nine party where everybody
stands outside in the cold and watches a

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movie that's an organ It's the craziest
part that a video of what people think

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is Luke and Isabelle is shown to
everyone. Everybody thinks Isabelle, Luke,

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Isabella, Isabella was cheating on that, Luke was chooting on Megan with Isabella.

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Yeah, and then it turns out
it's actually Meghan on the tape.

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I'm very confused what any of this
matters. And that leads to Luke and

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Brent. Luke ineffectually trying to make
Brent pay for this. Yeah, so

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he brings in Brent's box of ill
gotten sex tapes to the sheriff and Steve

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bad Dad. Steve uh freaks out
and is like, you never embarrassed the

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family. So in episode five,
we're starting to see that Isabella has a

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questionable pass and but she and Meghan
are very close and in the winter of

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ninety nine, she gives Megan a
computer that is like bar and above anything

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Megan could ever purchase. Uh.
This is where there is a sort of

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conspiracy theorist y two K Truther who
lives in a super fancy house in the

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middle of the woods. I'm so
sorry if you hear my cat yelling,

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he is furious we won't let him
into the basement. And this why two

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K truth or Ned hires Megan to
do some hacking. Megan being a hacker

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is like basically employed as a plot
device whenever the show needs her to get

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information she wouldn't otherwise have. We
fast forward to summer two thousand. We

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find out that when Luke died,
Megan was pregnant. She didn't tell her

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mom. Now the news knows because
Isabella's lawyer told the news, and Megan

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is like, it's either her or
me. I want her out of the

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house and back in summer ninety nine. The way we start to learn more

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about Isabella's past is Trevor shows up. Trevor is the older brother of Lisa,

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supposedly Isabella's best friend. We learned
that Lisa drowned when she was drinking.

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This is important, this will come
up again. And Trevor's like,

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you're like an Abercrombie and Fitch weirdo. Now I don't understand what happened to

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you? Why do you care about
and sink? And she's like, I

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have best friends and he's like,
and you're dating Luke. So Trevor is

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here to let us know that Luke
is a hay seed in his opinion,

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and Isabella changes it up depending on
you know, where she's at. So

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Megan sees Isabella kiss Trevor. Isabella
is kissing Trevor in order to shut him

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up, basically, and Megan's like, hey, guess what. I was

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excited to see you cheating on my
best friend because I'm interested in my best

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friend. And Isabelle's like, we
can death make that happen. So the

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ending of that episode is in summer
two thousand, Debbie's like, Isabella,

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I love you, but you gotta
get out of here, and Isabelle's like,

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cool, definitely, we're on the
same page. But Megan did give

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me a bag of incriminating evidence and
asked me to get rid of it and

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I didn't, and it's in the
airstream trailer and you should check that out.

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So then Debbie goes and finds the
shopping bag of incriminating evidence and it's

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a bloody pillowcase. And she immediately
goes to her daughter and is like,

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hey, I love you regardless,
but it kind of seems like Isabella kept

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some evidence and indites you. Is
this Luke's blood? End of episode Questions

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comments, follow ups A lot,
Yes, please pursued, Okay, so

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this is okay. So Megan's pregnant, yes, I don't remember in any

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of the earlier flashbacks, and they
mentioning a baby, so that, oh,

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frank, they dispatched that baby like
you would think this is as a

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pregnant seventeen year old, this would
be a pretty big plot point that Megan

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would have feelings about this pregnancy,
especially now that she knows the father of

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this of the baby had died.
Nope, Debbie's like, well, what

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happened and Meghan's like, don't end
a plot. We are just never going

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to find out what happened to that
baby. Other than that, Luke has

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a terrible response to finding out that
Megan is pregnant, and well, I

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mean, we'll get to it,
but this phantom baby, I don't know

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if it got written out or doubt
or whatever. But no, you are

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correct, and you do not need
to worry about that baby because it does

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not figure into the rest of the
plot. Okay, this is one of

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the many loose threads of Cruel Summer
season two. Oh my god, I

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just can't believe how bad the sounds. Kids are hard. Like when you

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were describing Cruel Summer season one,
I think you got through like two episodes.

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Well, I was like, I
need to be in on the show,

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like cause that's this sounds so amazingly
bonkers. This sounds so pedestrianly boring.

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I mean, this is the thing. Like I kind of gave up

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writing comprehensive notes after episode seven because
I'm like, one thing happens every episode.

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Like, if you try to unravel
Cruel Summer season one, it would

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be very difficult because it does move
in a natural cadence and you do need

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to know each beat, but this
is so haphazard that you could kind of

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because the thing is there's very I
think everyone does their best acting the show.

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And I can't even blame the writers
because it seems like someone was brought

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in for each episode. So it's
like, how are you going to kind

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of like keep cohesion if you're not
in the writer's room for the entire sort

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of run of the show. But
I don't know they really did this show

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a disservice because and okay, so
see episode six is a great example of

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this, because now Megan is fully
in the hacking lifestyle because of the sex

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tape. She starts canceling plans with
Isabella and Luke, which causes them to

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act out because they're both like people
who can't deal without the attention of Megan.

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So in winter of ninety nine,
they're supposed to go to the Polar

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Plunge. Megan gets an im from
Ned the Y two K Truth and is

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like, I can't go. Sorry. The entire episode is watch mccallo,

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focused around this birthday party that they're
having for Luke. In summer of ninety

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nine, Megan has decided that this
is the day after he was jumped by

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Isabella. Oh, also, Luke
lost his virginity Isabella and then she like

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jumped him two days later so Megan
could have him. It's like, if

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this was a plot line where the
genders were swapped, we would be like,

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that's really gross, and like the
idea that dudes are like kind of

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trading this person around is gross.
But because they're best girlfriends, it's kind

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of like, h well, whatever, I guess Luke wants this. It's

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bizarre, so go go ahead.
Afterwards, is this spell like once again,

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this proves there's nothing you possess that
I cannot take away. Well,

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that's the thing Bran Isabella had Luke. And when Meghan's like, I'm kind

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of interested after I saw you cheat
on him, Isabella's like, yeah,

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you can have him. That's fine, I don't care. And so then

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at this summer ninety nine luke b
Day party, Luke gets very drunk.

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Him and Megan are super into each
other, even though Megan had been like

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kind of seeing Jeff who's the guy
with the video camera, and Jeff basically

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has to confront her at the party
and be like you are all over Luke.

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It is so like obvious, you're
interested in him, and Megan's like

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what me No, next day her
and Luke are together. Then in summer

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of two thousand, they have a
memorial for Luke, and so we're kind

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of bouncing between Luce bread party in
the memorial for Luke, and then in

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Christmas ninety nine, like Winter ninety
nine, we're just focused on Ned's y

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two kbum bunker. That's sort of
all that happens during episode six. Okay,

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the bunker comes out of left field. Well, this is what I'm

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saying, Like she goes from being
so many interested in programming to be like,

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I'm full on hanging out with this
middle aged man who got fired from

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his job for assaulting his boss.
It's Ned doesn't regret it. He's like,

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my boss shelved the sort of tech
I was working on, and he

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was a jerk. Anyway, Like
it's it makes you very unsettled that he's

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hanging out with this teen girl all
the time. Okay, so so wait

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a minute, Okay, sure absolutely
what so so if I remember coaching from

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Winter nineteen ninety nine, she's still
not like terribo golf Megan. No,

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So she's just like well, I
hadn't you know I had a sex tape

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with my boyfriend or what do you
want to call him? Exposed to everyone

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gotta go hang out this bunker Yes, so she, I mean understandably has

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a little bit of mistrust of Luke
and not a bunker guy. What's up?

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Not a bunker guy. He's not
a bunker guy. Uh. So

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she's like, with bunker guy,
you know what you're getting. Yeah,

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He's like, hey, I will. Because the other part is this is

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when we begin to learn that Megan
is taking sides. Oh, I forgot

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about this. The scholarship plot line
is so annoying. People in the subreddit

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have said that the scholarship that Megan
mentioned literally multiple times in episode at the

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time that this show is set,
it was a diversity scholarship. Megan would

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not have gotten it. It was
need based, but Megan would not have

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been eligible for it as a white
woman. So like the fact that this

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show is like scholarship, scholarship scholarship, it probably would have just taken a

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cursory Google to figure that out.
So then it because the whole supposed crux

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of the sex tape is that Megan
to lose her scholarship, and that's why

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Isabelle is lying and saying it's her. I remember that. I remember.

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We're very confused about that as well. Yes, So in episode seven,

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we are post party and Polar Plunge, post party, pre bunker. Well,

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no, she's in the bunker.
She's been to the bunker. That

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was what she was doing instead of
going to the Polar Plunge, was helping

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Ned shore up his bunker. So, uh, Luke, I forgot this.

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Luke had tried to kiss Isabella at
the Polar Plunge and then lied to

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Megan about it because Luke sucks.
So Luke lies to Megan and says Isabella

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kissed him. In summer of two
thousand, Meghan gets in trouble for making

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fake IDs and hacking, and then
in December, like winter of ninety nine,

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Meghan finds out about the pregnancy.
They're going to a New Year's party.

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H Ned and Luke have a fistfight
in the parking lot of the party

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store because Ned talks to Megan and
also Ned hates Luke's dad, Steve.

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Uh, there's some sort of blood
feud between them. So did I not

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write any notes for episode eight?
I did not write any notes for episode

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eight. Have we been. We're
just finishing up episode seven. So episode

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eight is only I think it's only
winter ninety nine. No, oh my

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god, it's a car wash episode. So in summer ninety nine they're doing

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a car wash, Luke and Meghan
are fully together and everyone's like And then

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in winter of ninety nine, Megan
finds out that Luke has been basically been

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telling everyone that he could bed both
Isabella and Megan at the same time.

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And Megan is obviously upset about it
because this is the father of her unborn

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child. So her and Isabella are
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of two thousand, Megan loses her
scholarship. This plot line just kind of

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limps along and finds out that Jeff, the guy that she threw over for

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Luke, got caught trying to buy
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snitch her out. So then in
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Luke is a terrible person and lying
about her all over the place, her

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and Isabella, we're done with summer
ninety nine. We don't go back to

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Summer ninety nine at all. We're
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Year's ninety nine with a little bit
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they drug Luke. They first Megan
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I'm gonna tie you to bed romantic, but then they drug Luke.

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Video record him admitting that he was
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able to manage both of them.
He admits that he's the one who made

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the sex tape, that he messed
up and he thought it was one of

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his brother's tapes and gave it to
the caterer to play, which makes no

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sense. And then he tells Megan
that he and Isabella slept together and that

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Isabella made him lie to Megan,
and Megan is mad at both of them.

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Isabella tells him to shut up and
is holding a gun on him.

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There's a lot of screaming. Isabella
shoots like fire's a bullet at Luke and

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Nix's ear, and then the girls
leave him there. Megan and Isabella are

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fighting. Megan wants to go untie
him the next morning because he's learned his

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lesson, and Isabella's like, he
treats you like trash. Just leave him

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there. He sucks. And there's
a lot of discussion about what the cameras

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because Ned's bunker is right next to
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there is a discussion about what those
cameras might have picked up. So Megan

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hacks into the police server to watch
the evidence that they have gotten from the

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bunker cameras. Ned's gone. I
don't know where Ned went. He will

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come back later. But the sheriff
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which makes no sense. So once
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the camera the bunker cameras, she
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then by episode ten, Megan is
being charged with Luke's murder because Isabella has

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doctored the tape that they made when
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Brent admits that the murder was his
fault because Luke did escape and he's all

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sad and drugged, and he goes
down to the dock. He beeps Brent.

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Brent shows up and he and Luke
get into an argument about their mom's

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death. Brent pushes Luke, Luke
hits his head on the ladder, sting

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since the lake. Brent jumps in, tries to find him, can't find

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and brings his dad back. His
dad can't find him, and so Brent

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admits this. The sheriff arrest Brant
and lets Megan go. And then Megan

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is going to the dock just say
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I don't know why the cops didn't
watch the footage. How long would

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it take to watch the footage of
New Year's Eve? They didn't watch this

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footage? And she sees Luke's body
has washed ashore. Luke is still alive.

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Oh who's that? It, says
Abella, and she steps on Luke's

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head and drowns him and then just
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Show ends. That sounds like it
sucked so hard. Okay, thinks I

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will say, everybody acted their fucking
hearts on this. I so they had

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an acoustic version of Dragula by Rob
Zombie. I would like you to end

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this episode with the actual song Dragula. Yeah, so they're play Dude through

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the dis and burns like acoustic slow
song. As Megan watches this terrible footage,

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the face acting that the actress that
played Megan did very powerful in this.

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I'm like super annoyed with the show
at this point, mega frustrated,

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but I was moved. I teared
up. I was like, oh my

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god, this must be so terrible. Oh. The other part was we

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see Isabella on a flint to Ibiza
and she makes a new friend, is

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lying about her friendship with Megan and
introduces herself as Lisa. It's a lot

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and the main so I really do
like the subreddit because people are you know,

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like analyzing and debating, and a
lot of people are like Megan and

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Luke treated Isabella like shit and like, yes, she shouldn't have murdered Luke

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Abby. But they said it felt
like such a sort of like last minute

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call or like a Hail Mary to
save the season, because if you look

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at this twist in season one,
you could imagine it happening, but it

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is so chilling and you leave the
season being like fuck this. I was

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just like, okay, apropos of
what though, like it just it doesn't

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it doesn't have the same impact.
Yeah, like that ending to Cool Summer

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one reshapes everything, Yes, just
to go back and rethink about, like,

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oh my God, everybody's motives,
everybody's troops like, and it changes,

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like I forget the two I know
one of these name is Jeannette.

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Yeah, thank you. It changes
their like forgiveness into this twisting knife in

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your heart. Yes, it's so
powerful. So I'm very glad I did

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not make you watch the rest of
the season. I feel like you would

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have been grumpy, understandably. Okay, So so they have cameras all over

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the place, Yes, but for
some reason, where are these? But

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this is still nineteen ninety nine,
so these are the most Oh my god,

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Frank, I'm so sorry. I
forgot the most egregious part. So

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you know how Jeff is always carrying
around his camcorder, right, Yeah,

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So they're at this warehouse party.
It's New Year's party. So there is

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music, there talking, there's drinking, there's yelling. The footage they have

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of Megan and Isabella scheming Jeff is
roughly twenty feet from them in the middle

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of a party. The sheriff has
to say, we had our sound,

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guys, isolate your conversation. In
what fucking world is a late nineties camcorder

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just filming at a party? Going
to pick up one distinct one bespoke conversation

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in that din a huge echoe room. Yeah, like sound technology, Like

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it would just be like, that's
prank. That's if you even heard them

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talking. There was music, what
do you call it? Crazy Town was

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blasting butterfly a sugar Baby here.
Okay, that's the song they opened the

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scene with. And then the Sheriff's
like, oh dude, you are hi

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tech. We isolate your conversation and
Frank, it is as clear as a

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pin drop. We need to make
Luke pay. Yeah, We're gonna get

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revenge on Luke. What it would
be like if you were on a subway

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platform at rush hour and you were
like, there was someone standing twenty feet

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away from me and over the din
of subway cars, the crowd, the

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general echoiness. With my phone,
my camera phone, my phone camera,

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I recorded this conversation. What are
you in the CIA? Does Jeff have

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future technology? Okay, well here's
my question speaking of that, is you're

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telling me there's security cameras over the
place, right? Yes? Are these

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also man four seven so somebody can
switch out the maybe six hour tape that

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they have, right? These are
all an online servers. That is the

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biggest little horseshit. I've ever heard
it's nineteen ninety nine. I know,

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I know. They are all on
servers where you can remote in and watch

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streaming crystal ass clear video like NASA
did not have capabilities like that at that

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point. Yes, So what I'm
gonna say is watch it if you are

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a die hard Cruel Summer fan,
like I had to because I just had

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to know. But if you are
a casual viewer, watch season one and

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leave it there. Yeah, because
holy shit, grasping a straws doesn't even

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like cover it. I mean,
the thing is like maybe I'm just I

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don't know what the word is,
just pessimistic. But the big twist of

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Luke being an asshole does not come
to me as a huge twist. Still

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is like this character is so punishable. I was, like, it's true,

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like Luke is like whiny and entitled
and even sort of the signifiers that

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are supposed to make him seem like
a good guy they don't land because Luke's

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friends are assholes. His family is
a bunch of assholes, like you know,

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like attracts like, but we're gonna
be trying to do more extra kindit

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episodes. So if you have any
ideas for us, you can write us

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at real teengirl talk at gmail dot
com, send us down a rabbit.

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Yes, please do because, like
I hadn't done one of these in a

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while, and as much as I
was frustrated by this particular project, it

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was interesting. It was like fun
to do. So until next week,

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I am Susie Coda Team Codem Watch
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