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well. I'm going to preface this episode with I realize I sound like shit.
I apologize. I have a cough drop in my mouth. I apologize
if it hits my teeth. I'm not trying to piss anybody off. But
here we are. That mono took a week to hit. Huh. Oh
snap, I don't even know what to say. Nothing, speechless, speechless.
Yep, all right. I did not get the name of the episode
because it doesn't matter. But we are in season nine, it seems Season
nine, Season thirty nine, episode ten, oo, everybody gets and uh,
this is the episode where TJ said, hey, we're halfway there,
Tim went, what the fuck? I know it? And then this episode
nobody goes home. This episode no cash, money increases or decreases. This
episode is meaningless. Why did we do it? But here we are?
Why are we recapping it? Why are we even here? Guys? What's
going on? The episode was called Feeling Used. Feeling Used? Okay,
all right, all right, So we start off with getting back to the
house as normal and everyone is super subdued. It was real like it real
sad tones to begin the episode. It was very weird. It was.
This whole episode had some weird tones to it. Yes, we've got Colleen
thinking that she's going to be the number one on the list for the girls.
Now we've got Kyland was left a love note by Melissa. There's pictures
of a kid in him? Were they really? If you only notes?
When there's pictures? I do like it when parents are parents, I do.
I'm into that. The love notes, I could take it, take
or leave those leave them? Yes, I should say I don't want to
take those. I'll leave the love notes. Yeah, I could care us
about this as well. He also mentions that he's sad about her leaving.
He's happy about the note, and he realizes that it's probably a good thing
that she's gone because it's better for his game. It is funny. Both
both Colleen and Kyland are like, oh, maybe I should start playing the
game now. Yeah, where you've been spend time? Get on it,
And then we get a scene of Michelle and Mariah sitting on the floor doing
not makeup, but putting facials on. Tim, how'd you feel about this?
You know, I'm less worried about this. I don't know why.
I don't know why. For those who real deep cut here for those who
are not aware did not listen many many years ago. Tim does not like
the scenes of the girls putting their makeup on. He feels like it's too
intrusive and yeah, deodorant too. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's
a weird. It's a weird hang up, and it's not it's not related
to the challenge. This is just a real life. It makes me feel
really uncomfortable. I don't like to I don't like to see it. So
do you have the commercials come on and you run out of the room screaming
uh huh. Yeah, it's seriously traumatic for me. No, it's just
slightly uncomfortable. It's just like, I don't know, it just feels like
it feels like I shouldn't see that. I don't know. I don't know
how to explain it. I know it's a weird thing for me. What
can I say is we discussed this like a month ago, and the next
time I went over to Alison's house she's doing her makeup. I was like,
do you need me to leave the room? Is this weird for you?
No, it's She was like, no, No, she was like,
no, it's fine, Tim, It's just weird. I genuinely think
I'm the only person in the world that feels this way. But I do,
and I don't know it really. If I could, it's Tim,
I don't know why. If I could take a pill, I bet I
had some moment where my mom yelled at me or something when I walked in
on her. You know what I mean. It just like it's just like
in my brain now of just run woman putting on makeup, just run away.
Did your sister put makeup on you? Is that? What did it?
I have no memory that I could trace it back to. I would
share it if I could. It's just I don't know. I don't tell
you. Facials are fine, though, I don't know. I don't know
why. Okay, weird. Yeah that's because they're basically doing the same thing.
But what I know, I know. But yeah, they're sitting there
having a whisper conversation about Johnny Bananas and James, and Mariah saying that she
doesn't feel bad about it. She feels bad that he's hurt, but she
likes James. And this is just a running theme for this entire episode for
the whole season. Yeah, this Johnny Banana's at home. This is the
fourth or fifth episode. Er we're doing this. It's like, I don't
feel like it's going to advance either, Like this is not going to be
resolved in this season. It's just why are we doing this? Why are
we still talking about this? Yep? You know? Yeahs Bananas and no,
I do not. Bananas has got more screen time this season than half
the cast. That's what I was gonna say. How could you miss Bananas?
He's there? They've talked about him every episode. I wonder if he's
getting resident in this episode, he should get residuals. Glad heartbroken. Yeah,
he's done this to enough people. It's about time that's done to him.
I love Torris sign language to her sign for Johnny Bananas is pointing to
her eyeball he's heartbroken. I don't know what the eyeball thing was. I
don't know. It thinks it's like, why is Brad heartbroken? Nice?
Yeah, and Michelle's basically just mourning her. You need to not get so
close to James. Production that keeps stirring the pot. It absolutely is.
I have the same thought that production is getting all the vets to say say
something when they come out this episode. I was kind I kind of liked
this episode. I kind of did it. I like the rel and he
was he was pretty chill about it, So I don't know, I could
also feel like it if all the mercenaries are like staying at a hotel together
and till it's their turn, Like I'm sure once the first one got back,
that was like all they talked about for like days, So it's probably
on their mind when they going to compete. Is Johnny there at the time.
Do you think Zach is he in the country, Is he on location?
Why would he be there? Well, that's that's the rumor, that
he was on location to do this, and then like once you found out
about Mariah, he's like, peace, I'm out, I'm not doing this.
That's why Brad's and mercenary instead of Bananas. That's the rumor. Remember,
Yeah, that Brad took his place. Apparently I just haven't paid attention
every time you guys have said this. Yeah, so it's for debate,
but it seems I think there's some cast members who have confirmed the Bananas was
supposed to be there. Okay, Yeah, I found it kind of weird
that Mariah was so like, oh my god, if Johnny shows up as
the mercenary this episode like later on, right, she seemed very worried that
was a real possibility. Yeah, I will forgive MTV for this season.
If Bananas does come out at the end, like as the last mercenary that
they didn't reveal, you know, will he's shaken? Not gonna happen.
I don't think it's gonna happen either, but it would be really cool.
It'd be cool, though, Tim lakes to do that a lot. But
there's like, Oh, the grunk guy's in town, and I think the
miss is wrestling in Chicago. What if he shows up. I'm like,
he's not going to show up, But what if he does. I'm like,
he's not going to Yeah, but what if he does? But what
if he did, He's not going to show up. Hey, Mark Long
showed up in Nashville. Will be just just throwing that out there. Yeah,
but this is what Markelong has. The Miz has wrestling. He doesn't
make millions of dollars a year wrestling like the Mis does. Yeah, but
still sorry, I guess it's over. But you know, Rivals four is
gonna be amazing when they put James and Bananas on the Oh god, all
right, we've got Awsome saying that he really wants Kylon know, We've got
it's a lot of back up. We've got a lot of in the house
to begin with. Yeah, there's just a lot of fluff in the house
of people talking about just back and forth about this alliance is great, this
alliance is causing problems. Colleen makes a a quip about how the Alliance is
doing Jay and Michelle's dirty work. And then later on in the episode,
Kylin makes a Kylin and Hirossio talk about how they've just realized that Jay and
Michelle are running this whole thing. Did people not realize that Jay and Michelle
were running this whole alliance? Was that really not clear to anyone? I
think they did, but I think early on everyone thought that they were like
the third to Jane Michelle, and now they're stand to realize they don't falls
high in the pecking order as they thought. Yeah, it was just it
was bizarre because there were multiple comments this episode about how it's kind of the
Jay and Michelle show and everybody else is just living in it. Yeah,
like, I did you not realize this for the last nine episodes? Yeah,
not only last nine episodes, but the last forty seasons. Like this
is how it this is how it works. Like, you know, you
have an alliance and one or two people sort of control it and that's kind
of just the way it is. So yeah, it's Jay and Michelle are
controlling it this time around, and people see him upset all the time about
it. Yeah, I think it's I think it's last week we're talking about
Winter Picks and someone said Michelle, and I said, oh, you know,
Michelle always does good the first half and then like she crashes and burns.
I feel like we're trying to see the beginning of them, Michelle crash
and burn we are we're seeing said Michelle turn against her. Yeah, like
I don't know if this is the scene where we see Berna kind of yeah,
this is where this is where we get the first interaction of the episode
with Berna and Michelle, where Berna's just talking herself in circles and Michelle's and
they're looking at her like what is happening. Yeah, Burne is a lunatic.
She's insane. She was making no sense here, and she's comes off
as kind of like weirdly aggressive, and I don't know, she makes it
aggressive but trying to like play it off like she's a victim. And it
was very bizarre. I couldn't make heads or tails of what was going on
in this In the scene same, I just think Berna is chaos. She's
just a chaotic person. And I couldn't hang with it. I couldn't understand
it. I couldn't really talk to her, you know. Yeah, No,
I only will pe We'll get this but I feel like Berna is like
the epitome of x poc heat So who is this? Sure it's an old
wrestler they named Xbox. They used to term that as like when it's like
such an annoying thing, you know, the bad guys want to be booed.
But when someone is like so bad that you just want to change the
channel because you can't even watch them, right, that's Berna to you.
That's Berna, Like I just want to turn off the TV every time she's
on the screen. I'm kind of with you, ezactly. Bern It reminds
me like later on this is more when it comes up, but her Michelle
started doing this again at the club later. Berna's reminds me of the type
of people from like grades school. It's just like, Okay, you're my
best friend, you can't be friends with anybody else. Yeah. Yeah,
And that's just like the way she comes off and I'm like, yep,
I agree with that. Yeah, and makes everything about herself, everything that
happens. She's She's like, how can I make this about Berno? Yeah,
Scopper is up a good point. He says, what's with the what's
the deal with her constantly talking about how much she loves Michelle. It's a
yeah, it's a it's a weird, it's a they have a weird relationship,
but they do whatever. Then we get a scene of Ed teaching Zara
and Emmanuel martial arts, which Ed talks about how he is nationally and internationally
ranked and all that horror was, which is kind of nuts. I like
seeing some Ed here, but this was another clearly shoehorned a production move,
which I fucking hate it every time. It's clearly just like Ed, go
do some taekwondo stuff. Who's around Zara? Manuel go to? And I
don't know, this felt weird, it felt weirdly inserted. Yeah, but
I will say props to production because when they started showing this, I thought,
oh, Ed's going home, like we haven't seen it at all,
and now he's doing it and saying I don't think he was going home,
but I thought he was going in. Yeah, I did too. They
really fooled me. They did a It was a very very James and Ed
focused episode. Yeah, a Jed focused episode, Yes, a Jed focused
episode. But then finally finally we were onto the challenge the chat. All
right, this is what she tells us that we're halfway through. Oh my
gosh, guys, halfway through. What a grind? What a grind?
Ten more weeks? There, ten more weeks. It's gonna be Valentine's Day
by the time this thing's over. I know, right, it took like
half of the half of the season, now I know, and I'm already
exhausted. I don't know how you guys are doing it. You guys need
you guys need raises, not me. I'll take a pay cut, all
right. Well, the game is called Skyball. Well, for you haven't
said a lot in this episode, we want to explain it. Oh,
you're getting called out Wolfe. Two people or not two people. It's split
into two teams. Some of the people go up in the sphere and they're
like spinning around. First they have to do a puzzle that spells out the
word chaos. Once they get it, they can tell their teammates, who
then unlocked doors on the side. They start throwing balls out, and then
once all the balls get out, so they have to throw them in this
pyramid. Whoever gets them all in the pyramid wins. How do you guys
feel about splitting like it's an individual game, right, but they're splitting them
into team and it means half of the players are safe. How do you
feel this It does seem like an extreme amount. Yeah, I think so
too. It should be payers at most. I think I don't mind it,
Like I like the variety of you know, one week it's teams,
next week it's solo vance and you know, a duo. So I would
not like it if it was every week, but I think just you know,
once every three or four episodes, I'm good with it. It's just
weird that there was only three men that were sort of vulnerable here. That's
I don't know. That just seems weird to me. Was there four?
Okay, even four? It's still like, yeah, it was a little
weird. But at the same time, like I don't I didn't mind it
because I didn't mind there being teams. I found it a little strange there
were only two teams instead of splitting it into three. Yep, I feel
like three would have been a better idea. It puts more people up for
up for grabs. But I didn't mind. I especially because they know that
they have the chance of it being individual or teams or pairs or I didn't
find it. I think one thing is this season we have this huge alliance
that Jane Michelle are running, and I like the large team events with it
being randomized, because then we have a chance that if a team is like
all of the j Michelle alliance and they lose, they're gonna have to turn
on each other, whereas if it's all individual or duos, they can just
keep throwing in the same people over and over. Yeah, yeah, that's
true. I just wish they found a better balance of making people vulnerable.
It's it feels weird to be halfway through the game in an individual game and
still have half the players not even eligible. Like that just feels weird to
me. But I don't know. Yeah, the thing that felt weird to
me was that even though they didn't know that it was a guy's week,
and last week we had it was two women's days back to back, so
there's they could switch it up and do another women's day. It was very
strange to me that James, one of the biggest guys on the field,
was in the sphere rather than running around on the ground. I mean,
I realized that that would have then put four women in the sphere and four
guys down below. But it was just it was very odd. We've seen
him run around. That's not really true. Yeah, I guess that's probably
why they did it. Frankly, Yeah, very true. James sucks get
the sphere. I also didn't know the spheres were going to be spinning and
like swinging around. That was that was pretty entertaining. So Blue team is
the one who gets their sphere upen first, and Orange team is right after
them. The Blue team kind of has this strategy of putting all of their
balls at their pyramid and then throwing them up there, rather than just like
grabbing them and hawking them, which they thought might be a good thing.
But ultimately Orange she ends up winning. Yeah. So, and I mean,
I guess we don't as usual, we don't get all the rules.
Yeah, but some of those balls were pretty close to like each other's pyramid.
I would just take a run and start and kick that ball as far
as yeah, don't get that ball. Yeah, Kay mentions Nurie getting hit
in the face. Yeah, almost immediately too. Yeah, that's pretty funny.
It was somebody a talking ahead of her like I'm down there with the
boys. I can do this stuff too, and then both she was on
the floor instead of James. Yeah, it's right. It takes her out
like immediately, It's great. She was definitely the girl in school to have
balls. We know nurs so orange Winds. We get a talking head of
Raven saying about saying she's so excited because it's her fourth win, And my
only thought was, have you actually contributed to any of these wins? Carl
and I had a similar thought. I looked through like you know, on
the subreddit, it always tells like the confessional counts, Raven is like the
fifth place confessional person for the whole season. Every time it shows her,
I'm like, oh, I forgot Raven's here, and it shows her like
she's very prominently featured and she's not really doing anything, and I always forget
she's even there. She's just flying under the radar. Yeah, which I
mean, good for her, But I just I don't know if she annoys
me. Me too, same But my you met her, that's because I
met her. She was very nice and very cute. I met Bananas once.
I don't like him and I don't think he's cute either. Denials more
than a difficult all right, Uh, well, T j yet again tells
them, tells the oun team they have to pick their person right now and
it has to be a guy. So they deliberate. A few of the
guy's names get thrown out, but ultimately ends up being Kyland, almost unanimously.
Rossio is the only one who doesn't vote for him. He doesn't,
and he points out that Jay purposely waits to hear what everybody else says before
he even speaks up, and he gets He gets real pissed with Jay,
which we will see later. Ummm he talking ahead of him, basically saying
that he's lost all trust in Jay. Well, this is when you start
realizing where you fit on the Alliance, and Cayland is lower than he thought,
and now he realizes it and that sucks for him. But like it
is what it is. I don't think anybody did anything wrong here. I
think just kind of a pussy but like, you know, what are you
gonna do? Like he didn't do anything wrong. Jay needs to cut that
hair. He needs to get rid of hair. Yeah, oh god,
that that poor boy in his receding hairline. It is so bad. But
you know, I saw, I saw my hair disappearing, and I did
I held onto it for as long as I could, and maybe that's what
he's doing too. Yeah, but did you hang on to it when it
was like six inches long? Nope, I had already I had already abandoned
ship by the time. I looked like Jay. But I get it.
He's like, he's going to be bald the rest of his life. Let
him have another couple of years of shitty hair, you know. I mean,
he does do the bandana thing almost all the time. He covers it.
Maybe he'll get hair and plants like like Benana's dead and Kyle and Kyle.
I mean, if he wins anything, he might probably probably a bunch
of these guys and we don't even know it. Probably so we I mean
real quick back to the house, but really we go straight into club night
its Kylon says that he's learning where he lies, that Jay and Michelle are
the center of everything, which is again, like I said, it's it's
weird to me that people don't seem to have already realized this, or that
this is like a new thought. Yeah, it's very bizarre. This is
what they should all be trying to do, right, Every single player should
be trying to look out for themselves. So to say like, oh my
gosh, Jay's looking out for himself, well, yeah, of course that
works. Is it just obvious though, because we know that because the confessionals
and stuff. I mean possibly it could be, it could be TV magic,
but it just I don't know. The way that the way that this
game has been played, the amount of say that the two of them have
had, it just seems so obvious to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
even just the concept seems obvious to me. Kylin's saying like, oh
my gosh, Jay's looking out for himself, not the Alliance. Well yeah,
like the point of the Alliance is to look out for Jay. That's
why it exists. If Kylon's not happy with that, he needs to have
his own thing that he's controlling, you know, I don't know, yep.
Well, I think it's because there's been talk on this season when people
do stuff against the Alliance that they're like, they don't have the Alliance's best
interest to her, And now Jay is like being the poster boy for Oh
I don't I'm just doing what's good for me and not for everybody else,
even though he's been one of the people that's been like but we have an
alliance, what do you do? Yeah, but he's been trying to couch
it as it's good for the alliance. Yeah. Yeah, Politically he's a
mess. This is not he's not playing a good game. And yeah,
we'll talk more about that when he gets into that conversation with Hirasio and Kayland,
which is politically he looks like a jackass. Yep. We get James
talking to Mariah per usual saying that he thinks that he's going to be the
the House vote because he's not in the US Alliance. We get Michelle and
Corey talking, and Michelle and her talking head so that he's a great Alliance
member. I'm just like this could mentioned. Yeah, this gets mentioned a
few times by a few different people this episode. How in the hell in
like two episodes has Corey gone from being bottom of the barrel everybody hates him
to all of a sudden he's a spectacular Alliance member and he's earned his trust
back. What the hell did he do in like three days? They make
a couple of references to it this episode, like they don't talk about what
he did, but yes, I think Michelle says his game rose from the
ashes or something. Yeah, Olivia talks about it. I think Jay says
something like even Corey himself does, doesn't He says like, I dug you
know, I dug out, I dug myself out of the hole or something.
But yeah, no insight as to how he did it. I don't
know. Now, all of a sudden, he's just so Yeah, it
is so bizarre. I think just you know, like he made his declaration
of where his loyalty lies and now he's the ultimate alliance layup. I mean,
I guess he's just the bottom. He's a safe member, the bottom
somewhere. Yeah, yeah, it's probably right. We get We're still still
at the club. Mariah is going around in politicking for James. She's trying
to make deals with Maurice to keep James out of out of the elimination.
I think this episode is going to do a lot to hurt Mariah. Oh
my god, this was so bad. Yeah, so bad girl. What
are you doing? Yeah? I do like seeing her play the game,
and I think she's smart, and I think she's sad, and I think
she can sort of see gears. But she's focusing on James, who is
the worst, like she should be focusing on herself and and you know her
alliance and if she used these you know, this sort of insight deal making
for somebody that would help her, that would be a benefit to her.
James, James isn't going to do shit for her. Oh he's not going
to be able to No. No, he doesn't even fight for himself.
Like she's giving him strategies and and she's right like he should go politicking,
and he's just like, no, I'm not gonna not gonna do it.
You do it for me or or not, like whatever, but I don't
know. Weird, Yeah, it was very strange. Let we get the
the second scene of Berna and Michelle and Berna I wrote in here Berna is
acting like a crazy ex girlfriend. She's sitting at a table across the bar
watching Michelle talk to these other girls and is sitting there getting jealous that she's
talking to other girls and having a good time. And then she walks over
to her and says, why do you you spend more time with them than
you do with me? Like, yes, this is a very off putting.
What's happening is very weird. This is when I got the vibe.
It's like grade school, like we're best friends, don't with anybody else.
Yeah, we're so weird. It is. It's very possessive and very strange.
Yeah for someone in their twenties, like what are you doing? Right?
But pulled her shorts up too much and for circulation. All right.
Back at the house next day, we've got ed. Surprisingly, he pulls
Michelle aside and says that he doesn't want James to be the House vote.
He wants it to be Corey, and I'm not entirely sure. He said
that the reasons why James would be good to keep, and I'm not entirely
sure what those reasons are. It says like he could still be useful at
some point. Yeah, but how No, he doesn't really elaborate. She's
weird, I think because he doesn't really like politics or strategize. He just
does whatever Mariah tells him to do. So he's like a mindless drone that
they could point in any direction. And also he's like a major target in
front of them that will always you know, people always go after before him.
Yeah, and I think that they're not scared about him. In a
final mm hmm. Yeah, It's probably also part of it because he's gonna
gas out real quick. Yep. Already, Yeah, yeah, I can
see that. Hopefully that dude's doing cardio. Jesus Christ. We saw him
on the treadmill walking like an ape That dude has the ape walk. Did
you guys see that he's all hunched over his arms, just like flailing.
That's an ape walk that dude's got. It's great, that'll happen. You
still got that neander DNA obviously, look at the guy, listen to him,
obviously. Map We've got a scene of Jay talking to Kylon and Horassio.
Kylon starts us off by saying, uh, I've got Horassio here to
make sure that I don't jump you. Jake has a look at his face
like, oh shit, what this is such a weird conversation, so uncomfortable
with these three guys. It was a weird conversation because tried to get himself
out of the ship by throwing Horacio and nurses in front of Horacio under the
bush. It was a very weird Yes, this is very weird. Yeah,
I don't understand what Jay's strategy was here at all. This is very
this is weird. Yeah, yep, because is part of his alliance too,
right, Like, yeah, throw somebody else under the bus, dude,
somebody that's not standing right next to you and is in your alliance,
Like come on, yeah, Like pick Mariah and James because they are a
very obvious example of you going off and being in a relationship rather than being
in the alliance. Yeah. I think this is where Jay is stupid.
He's just he's just not connecting the dots or something in the way that he
needs to right now, you know. Yep. Yeah, to Zach's earlier
point of Michelle starting to blow up her game, this is James blower or
not James, this is Jay blowing up his game. Yeah. Yeah,
Well, these these are all the losers, right, These are the guys
that have played this game a bunch of times and don't really know how to
win it. So I guess I'm not surprised that it's kind of chaotic and
stupid, but it's frustrating. Yep. And speaking of blowing up your game,
we get a great, great scene of Mariah being real pissy standing in
the doorway talking to all the other ladies that are in her alliance about how
she has made a deal with Nourice to keep James safe. Yeah, and
all the girls are looking at her like, what the fuck did you just
do? God? It was what was Mariah thinking here? You don't know,
does she think that they'll understand or be on her side about this or
something? I guess. So did she come in like, hey, guys,
great news I got I've worked out this deal with Rees and they're just
like what. Yeah. It seemed like that's how she was presenting it.
Frankly, I don't know how it actually was, but that's how it seemed
on the show. And she kept trying to say like James has saved each
and every one of you, right, going over my head like has he
because I don't think he has. No, No, he hasn't. No,
he just hasn't voted for them, which isn't the same. She's just
in love with him, and that's just it doesn't make logical sense. None
of this makes any logical sense. She's just into this dude who doesn't seem
into her back. But no, he doesn't. I don't get him.
He seems to like to be like to have someone to cuddle with at night,
but he does not seem like he likes her the way that she likes
him. No, No, I think she's gonna have a harsh reality check
when she leaves. Yeah. Well, and it's just poetic fucking justice because
we immediately go into nominations, name bitch, and every single girl says James
is straight to her face and Mariah is pace. Do you think that this
is a big enough offense that Mariah is now in danger next week, even
though she's got a big alliance protecting her. You think they're gonna I think,
protecting her anymore? And no, I think I think this was the
straw that broke the camel. Yeah. I think they see clearly that it's
not like she's in that alliance, but she's not looking out for the alliance.
She's looking out for James only. Yeah, and so why would the
alliance keep around. I also think she's gonna be a target. I guess
we'll see it. I think I think they're gonna say she's too chaotic,
too all over the place, she's not focused enough because she's too focused on
James. That's gonna be their fuel just to throw her in. Yeah.
Yeah, yep, I think that's what we'll see next week. Yeah,
she's gonna have to be on the winning side every week to not be especially
she's gonna have to be on the winning side next week to not be thrown
into elimination for sure. Yeah, nominations are nothing other than Corey doesn't get
any votes, Ed gets too, and James gets all the rest. Yeah,
they always they've been selling the nominations like we should wonder who it's gonna
be, But it's it's turned out to be the most obvious person every time.
Yeah, it really has, which kind of unfortunate because like the one
it was it last episode when it ended up being Colleen, I really did
think that they were gonna end up throwing Mariah in there. I thought Colleen
made some very good points and the guys agreed with her enough to be willing
to throw her in and it didn't happen. But MTV they can still fool
us sometimes, Yeah, occasionally nigans. Yeah, all right, elimination.
We are cruising through this episode, Tim hell yeah, because nothing happened.
We get to the elimination grounds, TJ does his normal spiel, to beat
the best you have to be to be the best, you have to beat
the best, and Darrell walks out, did you guys catch though? Kylon
dropped Durrell's tagline, Zach, I think you might be the only other nerd
that would have noticed that. It was before they introduced Durell. Kylon said
something like, Hey, I'm going in there because you know, you gotta
What's what's the saying. He's like, you gotta stay ready so you don't
have to get ready. Darrell says that a lot. So when Kylon said
that, I was like, Oh, it's Drell. Yeah. Oh I
was gonna say. I didn't hear Kylon go, Yeah, I'm ready for
some whopper sandwiches. Yeah. So Darrell has fourteen seasons, six finals,
and he is the only champ to have ever won four in a row.
They are also the only four wins that he's got. Yeah, you've talked
about this, Carl, and he's watering down his life. I'm sorry.
I I really liked the clip package because it showed a bunch of clips from
him back in the day. It did not show a single clip from him
recently, because every time he's shown up since he came back, he has
shipped the bed every single time. This one included well, he's made the
final a couple of times shipped the Bed's a little Uh. That's exaggerated,
isn't it. No, not for someone who was a four time champ,
four times in a row champ. He has shipped the Bed every season,
Ship the Bed made it to it. He hasn't made it to a final
since he came back. He has made it to the episodes before the final,
but I don't think he's made it to an actual final. I think
so because you want to. I'm not talking All Stars. He gets playing
All Stars all he wants. That's totally fine. I'm fine with him being
in All Stars. I'm talking about in the act in the regular season,
regular seasons, he is shipped the Bed. I am coming back very animated.
I hate that he has chainted his legacy and then and then turned out
our lights children. So when when TJ said he made it to six finals
with CJ counting All Stars anything, I think possibly. I do think he
was okay. Yeah, they showed a clip of him from Invasion, but
occasionally Invasion was also like seven years ago. Yeah, and all he did
was it was he didn't come into his mercenary. It was your first season.
Yep. That's how I know. It was roughly seven years ago.
So, I mean that was nearly a decade ago. I don't think that
counts as a recent appearance. We've been doing this show too long. Ship
mm yeah, what's the game? What are they playing? Oh wait,
we haven't gotten we haven't even talked about the drawer they get. So the
draw he ends up picking Kyland, which Mariah gets very excited about because she
she did mention. This is when she mentions a few different times that she
really hopes that Johnny Bananas isn't the one that's going to walk out there.
And then Drew comes out. But Mariah is real smug when James comes back
up. Yeah, like she had a role in that, the luck of
him pulling the right ammer. Yeah, pretty stupid, dumb, Yeah she
was. If she was smarter politically, she should just kind of just play
this cool, you know, don't show her cards too much. But it
target Yeah, too late for that, Mariah. Yeah, so the game
is called Firewalker Zachi Bananas. You want to tell us what the game,
what they have to do for the game. I would love to if I
remember what they did. Oh I me. So they had these like six
torches in the air, and they had to like rotate a platform to like
light all the torches. Yep, yeah, it was a cool game.
Scott says he would have liked to see something game. What are you talking
about? Well, okay, I thought it was interesting. It was interesting.
I would have liked to see this in like just sort of a normal
elimination is fine when they're bringing out these vets like this, I agree it
should be hands on or something just more fun to watch. This was like
there's sometimes there's eliminations that like sound really cool and they're probably fun to play,
but they don't make good TV. And this was one that like did
not make good TV. Yeah. Oh well, I mean it was almost
dead silent in the arena. One because they can't really give any direction for
this, but two, I'm sure they were all just still on pins and
needles, like yeah, and the men you're not you're not moving or doing
anything, Like you're standing in one space, just sort of spinning around.
It's it's like, yeah, I don't know, there's just you're trying to
use momentum to shift the platform, right. This is the first this is
the first game that so last week we had a game that did not play
to the Challenger or to the mercenaries strengths, but it did play to the
Challenger's weakness. This is the first game that did not play to Durell's strengths,
and it also did not play to Kylon's Weaklysses, and I was disappointed
of that because especially we get a confessional from Durell saying, I'm the guy
you don't want to see when there's a pole in the sand. It's like,
well, great, let's see that. And then we didn't get that,
and he said that, I almost thought, wait, was there a
pole in the sand? Yeah, it's a bummer that we didn't see,
like an actual, an actual you know, knock him and drag him out
game. Who would have been a good champ for this game? Oh,
Derek, Derek. I can see Derek's real nimble Chris says Wes in the
chat. I think him, Wes, Wes, Wes would be a good
one for this Yeah. Jordan, Yeah, Jordan's good at everything. Mm
hmm, Bananas is good at everything. I was thinking Derek just because he's
sorta small. I bet he's got really good core strength. Yeah. But
when I think of this game, when I think of Derek, I think
of in the Sand games. Yeah, this is someone that, like,
you need a little bit of brains to do this game. Yeah, this
is a little more precision, a little less heart. I guess, yeah,
you're probably right, all right, fuck Derek, you guys are right.
Derek's the worst. I feel like Derek would be good in one where
they have like the bungee cord attached to their back trying to like, yeah,
so like a button or something. Yeah yeah, yeah, and you
could only do as a mercenary. But I used to love I don't remember
what Seasons was from. Uh, you guys might remember, but the one
way they had to like answer trivia questions that were on coconuts and then have
to run down like Russell Kyle played that game. Yeah, yeah, I
love that one. That was Oh that was Kyle versus Bear because both of
them were Moruns and couldn't remember. They had to wait until the answer hit
the ground and wait for the crowd to say what it was going to be,
and then they'd running cocutt. I forgot that one. I want to
say it was like Derek's first season they did that, like yeah, oh,
I might be thinking of a different game. It was like in the
Gauntlet or something like one of the really early ones, and I think it
was just called name that Coconut or grab that coca something real fucking stupid.
Yeah. Oh yes, okay the other season, like Derek went in like
every single elimination. Yeah, yes, yeah, the coconuts had answers written
on him or something. He had to grab the right one and I don't
remember exactly, so yeah, I'd love to see Derek and something like that.
Again. Yeah, yeah, it was. I just I I have
in my notes saying, what the fuck is this game? Because again,
like you to your point, Tim, this is I didn't mind this elimination
if it were a normal elimination, but if you're bringing in a mercenary,
do a game that plays to the mercenary, Like what are they doing?
It should be a direct one versus one. And I know this was sort
of but like they weren't playing each other. They were playing in individual games
separately, you know what I mean. You're not like it needs to be
pulling against somebody or pushing individual games at the same time. It was,
Yes, it was weird. Yeah, it was not a amy. I
found it very because of that, I found it very boring. To watch.
Yeah, time and Kylon wins to RELLI loses again. Yeah, I
just yeah, I'm animated about it because it's it. It sucks that he
has completely destroyed he's completely destroyed his legacy. Well, let me he's such
a monster in this game and he has come back and shipped the bed and
it just it pisses me off. So Carlin, are you Let's say,
let's say Landing is primed to come back for season forty. Would you want
Landen to come back even because even you'd rather him live in the past as
just one of the best challenges of all time. Yep, Okay, that's
fair. I don't want Coral to come back to the game, and I'm
saying the regular game. If they came back to All Stars, I would
love it because All Stars is a different thing. All Stars is a bunch
of the guys and gals from way back when who like it's I expect to
see them there. It does it. It matters a little bit less if
they lose in that game to me, because it's it feels more like the
original games. It feels more like that crowd and it's just this game.
Maybe it's just the like having it on a bigger stage, having it out
to more people, having this be the first time that a lot of new
watchers are seeing these players, like the first time they're seeing Darrell. Darrell
gets beat by some newcomer, Like, yeah, this is he was one
of the greats for years. He was so when people were so terrified to
be against Yeah, and how he comes out and he gets beat by Kyland.
It's just I see it. I fully see what you're saying. I
love that you look almost disgusted talking about it. You're very passionate about the
subject. I'm not. I love I love seeing Durell. I'll see him
back every season. I think that's great. He'll lose every time. I
don't care. I like seeing I'm not I'm not passionate as Carlin, but
I agree. And I know I've said that before. It's like, yeah,
just his legacies and he's just another guy now. He used to be
special. Now he's just another guy. The worst part about it is that
my when I think of Durrell now, the first memory that comes to mind
is him sitting in the exile house or in the Redemption House, sitting in
the bed in the Redemption House, looking around at all of these like early
twenties kids looking around at them, like how the fuck did I end up?
And it was like within the first like three not even I think it
was like the first episode of that season, and that he ended up in
the Redemption House. Yea, And that is that is the first memory that
I have of him now, And it's just it's it's so shitty because he
was so good and I know, I know she wasn't at the prime that
she is now, but like the fact that you know, like he one
point in a row and then he comes on Fresh Meat Too, and he
has Kara Maria of all women as a partner, and they go out first.
Yeah, like the mighty have fallen. I mean, at least with
fresh Meat too, he was it was close enough, like I still he
was like first generation players. Kara and ct CT kind of branches. Kara
and her group are kind of second generation and now we're on to like third
or fourth generation players. And so him coming back and lose it like going
out first with Kara still felt close enough to his stuff where it's like,
Okay, it's just it's a fluke. It's because he's with her, it's
her first season, like yeah, yeah, none of us knew a car
would be coming at that point. But to have him come back in these
like third and fourth generation seasons, I don't know. It's just it's it's
so unfortunate, and I would feel that way, like if Brad I'm not
Brad. If I don't, I don't give a shit about Brad. Brad's
been ship what take it back, take it back. We'll be kick her
out, kick her out, kick her out. Like if if oh my
god, I just no not landing muscle, Mark good lord, rain fart.
If Mark came back to the regular season and played and lost, I'd
feel the same way about him. I fucking love Mark. Yes, if
I came back and did this same thing, if Kral came back and did
this same thing, Like and I don't know why I feel this way about
Mark, and I don't around like Karl and Marfield, but to me,
like the fact that Mark's like the guy father, He's like old, like
old old school and like when it's fifty now, Like if he came back
to the main shot, I feel like, okay, like we all are
going into this, including Mark himself, knowing he's not gonna win like you
know, so I wouldn't feel bad if he's lost, Like, hey,
this is just like him coming in and like, I know, I can't
keep up anymore, but I just I want the adventure, like you know.
That's how I feel about Durell. Darrell's not that much younger than Mark.
Yeah, but I feel like people still Darrell probably still thinks he could
win, and I'm sure Mark would, but I would look at him obviously
still thinks that he can win. Yeah, he came back this time.
He needs to stop coming back on a regular show. Yeah, yeah,
some of these people. I do feel this way about Durell. I would
love seeing him. I love seeing him every time. But if he won
one more and then retired, I wouldn't be sad about that. He's never
gonna win. Though he's never gonna win a regular season. He might win
an all starts, He'll never win a regular season. We were like minutes
away from Anissa winning a regular season, So if she could do it,
I think Durell could still find the right formula. I think it's more minutes
away, but she also didn't do it. No, I don't know.
I Durrell has made it close to the final few times, but he has
failed every time to actually make it there. I yeah, I'm just gonna
keep beating this dead horse. We can move on. Yeah, No,
no so much. You are passionate. I like it. Darrell's a great
I hung out with Darrell for like an hour and bottom of hot Dog.
Nice guy Up. It's no Wendy's no import Wendy. I think I think
he's gonna be at the next Challenge Mania. I guess who's a queen?
Can someone clip this and I can like show it to him? Which one?
Carlin talking about him for twenty minutes straight? Yes, I'll ask him.
Okay, well, you come on our podcast and like have a at
the head with Carlin. You should have never come back, Durrell. Would
you say it to his face? Carlin? Would you say it directly to
him? Would you? That's really rude. I tell him that I love
him, but he should not have come back on the regular season. That's
really rude. It's a rude thing to say. Well, the worst part
about it is that we haven't seen an All Stars in like a year and
a half. Now, I know it's crazy. If they kept doing it,
I realized that there's one Locked and Loaded, but we still haven't seen
it. It was filmed like a year and a half ago. I'm excited
about that hit. I was spoiled on that one, and I've totally forgot
who won it now because it's so long place. But it's one of those
things that if they if they kept it consistent with the with the All Star
seasons, I'm all for him showing up on that. Yeah, all for
it. Yeah. I think that's great because the All Stars seasons are so
much fun because it's all of these players from way back when it's the game
that we all remember from years ago. Can I try to shift your perspective
just to touch Carlin? I mean you can try. If he's already ruined
his legacy, right, it's already ruined, it's already done. He can
just keep showing not because it's nice to see him and he's just a cool
dude. So all right. I tried. I tried to Carlin. To
me, it's just he I just feel like he's just digging that hole deeper
and deeper and deeper. I tried, Zach, tell him, I will
so Carlin. If Landing came on and did an All Stars and just like
completely smashed it. Would you be okay with him then trying to bump up
to the main show? No, even if you win. Then he like,
if they're playing on All Stars, they should not be on the main
show. All Stars should be reserved for the And this goes for everybody.
Anybody who's playing on All Stars should not be allowed on the main show.
Jordan's yeah, anybody. I feel like All Stars All Stars needs to be
a game for those people that we don't get to see very often, those
people that we love to see but we haven't seen in years. It's the
it's the truncated timetable, it's the more kitchy games. I want to see
the people we haven't seen in forever going to show up on the regular season.
I don't need to see him in the regular season and on All Stars.
Like, give your spot to someone that I haven't seen in ten years.
I get that, But I think someone like Land if he goes on
the All Stars and he just makes it look like he's a pro athlete going
against like ten year old kids and just demolishes everyone and embarrasses him and wins,
I'd love to be like him, see him step up to the next
day and like, let me take on the young guns now, you know,
the people that aren't on like AARP. Yeah, I don't mind that.
I totally see what you're saying, Carlyn, and I agree with the
spirit of it. There are some players though, that I will just I
enjoy seeing them every time, and Durrell is one of them. Jordan is
one. I love seeing Jordan everything. Yeah, I have, but don't
care. It's fine. So we know that allegedly the next All Stars,
Kara Maria is on it. So would you be opposed to carl Maria ever
being back on the main show? Then I, she and Jordan fall into
the category She, Jordan's CT. They all all into the category of I
feel like there's still main main season players they shouldn't be going on All Stars.
Okay, I can agree with that. I'm I'm very much on the
All Stars should be reserved for players that we haven't seen in forever. And
I realized we haven't seen Carr in a few years. That doesn't count.
I'm talking players from way back when she'd be like, your your first Challenge
season had to air while the Real World was still on television. Yes,
I want players from back then. I want players that we haven't seen Tech
money, Robin, all of them. I want I want those players on
All Stars. You're never seeing Robin again. She's in jail or some shit.
Oh really, she's like lost her mind. Yes, and apparently when
everything was apparently when every's see Tech again, I think it's Tech. Maybe
I'm thinking there's some I thought it was Tech there, like had issues with
Uh he won like some money or something on the last season and they still
has not been paid for it, or like maybe it's his stipend or something.
But it feel like there's something a couple of weeks ago about him saying
he'd never go back because production ows him money for like all going over a
year now and they won't pay him all right, But yeah, yeh,
I I heard Robin was homeless for a while. Yeah. I remember us
talking about that drug problems and it was like recent. So yeah, she's
always had some some issues. It's it's unfortunately she hasn't been able to get
them. Figure. Need we need eric Nie on there because his Facebook is
one of my favorite things to watch. He's a lunatic too, isn't he.
He's absolutely crazy. He's like posts on stuff about like the benefits of
drinking his own urine and other crazy things on his Facebook. Yeah, he's
gone. He was on like a reality like a VH one reality show I
don't know, ten years ago or something where it was like can like Canfessions
of a Teenage Star, I don't know whatever it was where they like revisited
his past and yes, he drank urine and used it to wash his hair.
Like it was like, weird shit, He's just a weird guy.
M Yeah, we have gotten very off the rails here. We'd just to
finish up the actual episode. We say goodbye to Durell. As Derel walks
out, he gives a little dig to Mariah and says, Mariah, don't
worry about it. I won't say anything to Johnny. Yeah. I kind
of love that. This is why I think production told Durell to say something,
because it was sort of like a nothing comment. But it was sort
of like I just gotta say this, so here we go. Okay,
Yeah, but it was a nothing comment with like a glint in his eye
and the look on Mariah's she just stone cold, like, yeah, oh
shit, do you think this is this is really being talked about do yeah,
do you think like Bananas asked, or like one of the mercenaries like
volunteer to Bananas, like hey, like let's make a pact all of us
when we go in there, like we bring it up, it wouldn't be
surprised. Like just I mean, I realized we talked about it being annoying
at the beginning of the episode, but I kind of liked this one.
Oh apparently they edited out him saying Banana would do the same thing to you,
says who true? Yep, that is true. Yah, Banana's cheats
on everybody. Do I withhold my judgment until Banana says something. But from
everything I've said, this was not a relationship. I don't consider this cheating
same who cares well agreed, Yep, Well we might have something. Bananas
has not responded yet with words, but we might have some response and actions
for the social media. Right. He's smart, he's savvy. He'll save
his his input for like the end of the season or something, when it
matter they reunion or something. He'll chime into the reunion or you know,
well, we say goodbye to Darrell. Imagine thinking Bananas to like be the
host of the reunion. Oh god, he'd be awful. He'd be so
bad at being the host. I think normally he'd be good as a host.
I do think with the whole Mariah stuff. Yeah, like it'd be
too hard to balance doing the reunion while also like giving us the Mariah tea
we want. No, he'd want it to be the Johnny Banana Show and
that that's not the point. He'd be terrible. He'd be the worst host
ever. Yep, sorry, Zach, I agree with them. I think,
wait, no, we're not We're not done. We're not done.
TJ tells everybody go home and get changed. You have an hour and we're
starting a new challenge night Challenges. And I saw some gross food. I
think, are we gonna see some puking next week? Well, so before
before we go too much farther, do we want a real quick spoilers talk
about the mid season trailer. I didn't watch it, but I'm happy to
listen to you guys talk about I mean, I don't remember anything except the
CT stuff we texted about earlier. Well, spoiler spoiler spoilers mid season trailer,
the CT thing we saw in an earlier trailer. I remember him carrying
the mace. Yeah, I feel like they showed that in the beginning.
Yeah, I think I just didn't. Maybe I just didn't realize it because
we didn't know the mace was the thing at the point. I remember thinking
it was not the mace from the that they pull out. This was an
actual, like full full length ball with a bunch of spikes on it.
Mace. So is that mace that they pulled out. There's there's two hammers
that have that have names on them, and then there's the mace. Noah,
I don't think I realized that you're pulling You're not they were taking notes.
You're not watching the episodes. Yeah, I thought they were all three
hammers, all right. I didn't know that. Yeah, the third one
is the mace. All right. Okay, so quick rundown of the mid
season trailer starts off with some sort of jungle theme party. You get James
and Mariah dressed in very very very small on the themed outfits. Uh,
there's trouble in paradise between Nurse and Horasio. You get them kissing and then
you get them crying. Michelle and Jay are going at it at one point
in time, like fighting, not fighting, fighting but yelling at each other.
We get Olivia crying, and I feel like she was a voiceover in
the Narice and Horasio Trouble and Paradise bit because Olivia is bawling in a scene.
It looks like they're going to be at least two nighttime challenges, which
is kind of exciting. One's going to be over water and one's going to
be running through a field. Someone one of the guys cuts up in his
hand. Scott says they were crying because of how hot they both. Mariah
does nothing for me anymore. Nothing. We're talking about Narice and Yeah,
those are both, I get it both. Yea, Yeah, one of
the guys cuts op in their hand. Berna has medics come for some of
im in an issue. I don't know what that is, but it looks
like it happens during the middle of a challenge. And then it ends with
CT walking out with the Chaos mace. Yeah, he's walking out with it,
which is what's driving me, like, I really hope that he walks
out with it and he just gets to pick go ahead, Zach. Here's
my thing though, If they let him walk out with the mace and he
gets to call his shot and he goes out there and loses. He needs
to retire and never show up on the show again. If they leave you
for last, they give you a mace, like they like build you up
as this unstoppable star, and you come out and you get molly wopped,
Like leave and you get molly wopped. That it's an Alaskan term, Carol,
you won't understand it. I've never heard that from me. Like,
if you imagine if he comes out and calls out Jay and then Dad just
like demolishes him and like sends him. Jay has beat him before. Yeah,
I hope he can out and doesn't even have to play against him.
I hope he's They're just like Cet picked four people that will go go home
right now. He's just then they're done. I do want to see him
compete, though, I want to. I would love to see him compete
against like James. He thinks he's all high and mighty. Yeah, though
James, his endurance would just run down entirely. Who would he actually be?
You know? It would actually be fun to see him again against Jay.
I am calling it what I would I it would be fun to see
him go against Jay, and I actually beat Jay this time. I'm calling
it. I will be very upset if his elimination is anything besides the backpack
challenge. They're not going to do the backpack challenge. They're never It's see
you keep saying things like they're gonna bring back land and they're gonna do the
backpack challenge. They're never gonna do these things because the backpack challenge is so
iconic that you cannot have someone else to do it. It will never be
the same. I kind of agree, Carl, and it would to bring
it back with a week in it, just like the director, Yeah,
because he can never do that clip all the time. Yeah, they're never
gonna do it again. They shouldn't, I agree, because yeah, he's
not gonna it cheapens what that what that clip is, It's never gonna happen
like it happened that time again. It's it's the Drell of challenges. Yeah.
Yeah, it's a good way to put it cheap enough by bringing it
back. And I still stand by the fact that they would bring Landon back
for like a want twenty four hour period as a mercenary. Landon will never
come back, I'm telling you, Yeah, I think they would be willing
to. I don't think Landon would come back for mercenary thing. I don't
live my life in absolutes in almost any other way. This show I have
like very definitive. I will never this will never let we're never. Yeah,
I've noticed that I'm waiting until you're wrong too, because it's gonna it's
gonna happen. Well, you're almost wrong about Josh last season. I just
gotta say, well, but I wasn't. But you were close to wrong.
You were close to her, but I wasn't. You weren't wrong yet,
I know. And Landon shut up at Challenged Mania and Denver like six
months ago. I know he's going to a NAM. I know at Denver
he said his work schedule is a big thing. If he can ever make
it work with his work schedule, he would be down to do another season.
So if he's saying they're saying I would do another season, you can't
convince me. He'd be like, oh no, you want to pay me
like potentially ten thousand dollars for twenty four hours. Absolutely not. Tim said
Mariah does nothing for him, and I challenge that by re sending that picture.
I don't need to see that picture. Nothing nothing. Wilfy just sent
the picture to to those in the in the chat room. Wolfeye just sent
that picture. I appreciate you, true Mariah. The screenshot of Mariah laying
on the bed in like episode four, in her almost nothing bikini with her
ass just all out there. I can appreciate it that it's a nice ass
without finding her attractive. Greatest moment of the season so far. Well,
that's not not a high bar. I'm just saying, Hey, everybody,
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we had somebody the other two days ago join and then delete their membership in
the exact same day. Oh shit, they just joined, probably downloaded all
the shit, and then we're like them out. Well, good for you,
man, I hope you feel real good about yourself the fact, who
cares? We also say your name, so thank you to Alvin, Caroline,
Christopher, Cindy, Emily, Greg, Jamie, Julie Martez, Patty,
Rolden, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Sarah, Scott, seth Check
and Stans. Really awesome reviews, No new ones, Zach we got on
social media stuff would reviews for this episode of me sounding like ship and getting
real real heated about Drell. Well, let's start it off with the bad
news, guys. Josh lost the Reindeer Games. Yeah, what the big
brother Reindeo Games. He came in sixth places. Wait are we surprised by
this? Yes? I mean no, but yes, yeah, but didn't
he win it by default because people didn't want to vote for the other guy.
Basically that's a valid way to win them. But yeah, that you
still have to survive. That's why Sarah won the challenge, but you also
have to survive. Yeah, he had to still make it one hundred days,
you know, being one of the most hated people in the house and
convinced Bill not to vote him out. Okay, Carlin's Carlin's extra cynical tonight.
Yes, she should be convinced. No, no, I won't.
So it's this, it's this, this cold that's just they can me super
cynical. So if you if you guys, remember last week, ASoft had
a confessional where he called himself the new Devin of the Challenge. Uh and
Devin and aesof have been going back and forth about this. We had Devin
Devon's awesome and ace Off is a moron. Well, Devin tweeted at him
and said, I've got to say Asoff is playing a real weak slash scared
borderline pathetics game this season. Our game plays nothing, Our game play has
nothing in common. I don't use people. I picked my squad early and
roll with them to the good, bad, and ugly. He's an absolute
fraud, has been for a while, yes, which Asof replied Asof said,
let's see, if you're a real man, Devin me you first elimination
next season, you weasel in this way, Dev replied, just saying like
eat my ass loser or something shitty awesome. Si Johnny Banas quote eat my
ass TJ. It was something he replied back, something funny and goofy.
Yeah. Well, and then one of my favorite replies is that was Derek
Chavez from a real world ken Kun and the toun said, can someone take
asof out already? He's way better on Rue Paul's Drag Race when he's just
a pretty face and nice body with no voice. Yep, I don't disagree
with that. Yeah, that Aesop is completely intolerable. I do not like
him. Anytime he's on the screen, I want to change the channel.
Is he's just he's hard to watch, he's hard to listen to. He's
so frustrating to listen to. He likes to run his mouth, but it
just he has nothing to back it up. In other news, uh,
The challenge All Starts three won the award at the tenth Annual American Reality TV
Awards for Most Creative Challenge. So nice thatts to Mark Long and all them
challenge, I don't I think, I don't know. It's just one specific
challenge if it's just their all their challenges on the season in general, job
Zach no Wolfe's the cynical one. What's up? Both Cam and Jenna slash
zach Uh posted on their Instagram this week that they planned to come back to
show in the future. So I hope Zach never returns. I think we'll
see Zach again. Jenna. I don't know if we'll see Jenna oh,
because she's not allowed to. He throws a fit every time she leaves.
Truthfully, that's probably like the part of the reason why m so and then
Mariah put out this interesting tweet l LMAO. I told a certain someone that
I wanted to start my own crop top brand with little phrases like some of
the shirts I wear, saying I'm not like most girls, I'm worse and
no boyfriend, no problem. And my family just sent me that sent me
that a certain someone did exactly what I told him about. So if you
would like shirts like that your known crop top, go to Johnny Bananas shop
dot com. So there is Banana's response. He uh. He basically took
Maria's idea and started it well, and I love Maria's idea. Is how
about I have a T shirt printing business, like fucking everybody does this,
Like this is not a This is not an idea, Mariah, Yes,
it's not an idea. Somebody can steal. We don't do this. We
don't have a good merch we used to. We have merchan We have merchants
like I wore pizza shirt the other day. Nice represent We do need to
get some new merch. We gotta think of us some ideas. Now I'll
be ripping off Johnny bananas if they do. Do we do more of those
stickers? I gotta because this is an audio podcast, not a visual one.
I have a challenged sticker on my water bottle that was sent out as
part of a Valentine's gift or Valentine's card. Uh four years ago. Okay,
so I missed one and Chris, thank you. Christopher reminded me,
o't know how I missed that. But Uh, Olivia and Theresa are going
at it online. Let me see if I can find where it is again.
Sonrese uh went after Olivia and said, h, since you want to
like dumbass tweets that you very much know aren't true, let me go ahead
and expose you Olivia, since MTV want to save you with edits, You're
a fake ass, pathological liar, and majority of the cast know that you
sucked a Manuel off a week after we got to the house and he was
embarrassed, which is why he never hooked up with you again, despite you
trying for weeks. You then lied and said you had sex with him.
You then made up a story saying Kyland professed has loved to you when he
never did. Wait when did she say that Kylin professor's love to her?
Apparently like I don't know if she did that like to the public, but
apparently in the house at some point or to the cast. Olivia's claiming that,
I mean, honestly, you gives a shit if she just gave him
a blowjob or had sex with him, like one way or the other day
they still hooked up, Like, don't understand why this is a fight.
Yeah, And then the RESO also said, please don't have me expose what
you said your reasoning was as to why you didn't like Kyland like that,
alluding to the fact that potentially racial reasons. M Well, Nourice is trash
there, she is right, She's a trashy person. And probably Olivia probably
is too. All these people are, I mean Olivia's great. Kay brings
up that Olivia was with Nelson though that is true, so racial stuff shouldn't.
Oh yeah, Scott brings up. According to Bill Clinton, the BJ
is in sex. So these weird language things that people latch onto, like,
oh, we didn't hook up, I just went down on them.
It's like, what the fuck? Like? I don't like. I don't
like when people say hook up when they just made out with someone. Yeah.
To me, a hookup requires some sort of sexual something other than just
like a heavy makeout. So that's the problem though, right is Yeah,
it's makeout to sex. It's all hookups. So it's it's not specific.
If you say you hook up with somebody, it's I'm no closer to understanding
what that means. You don't. No, it depends on who you're talking
to too. Yeah, I got I got a female friend years ago.
Like we knew each other in high school, I didn't see each other for
a couple of years and then reconnected. She was talking about like, oh,
yeah, I when I was out with this guy at the beach and
we hooked up and blah blah, blah, and I was like, you're
just looking up with people at the beach, and the way she explained,
I'm like, no, you made out with them. That's not the same
thing. Yeah, And apparently like I just don't understand what hookup means,
because hookup means what you want it to mean. It is a non specific
term that just means it all. It's literally it just it depends on the
person you're talking to. Yeah, it really does. Like to rules for
hookup is like you have making out and that can go real heavy, like
heavy petting making out, but it's still not hooking, but it's not hooking
up. Hooking up is like hand job load chub general have to be involved
with a hooking up? Is buying a plain tickets Australia. No, that's
a that's a straight up boys the worlds, a straight up booty call.
That's and then Emmanuel just Emanuel just jumped in on Twitter and just said the
Nurice tweets, she's right with what she said about my involvement. Emanuel's trash
too. I mean, yeah, mm hmmm, anything else that No,
I think that's everything. Okay, Uh well, I guess that's it for
this episode of Challenge. This has been bright Carl in San Diego, zack
you bananas, and as uh Ed said, silly gooses. M M come
on, seriously, Yeah,