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Hey, everybody, welcome to Challenge
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seen Brian sitting in Germantown Hills,
Big up the sweeteet Uh sitting in her

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home in Minnesota. I was about
to make some sort of snow reference,

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but I don't think there's any snow
up there. It's like forty degrees right

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now, it's thirty seven. Carl
in San Diego in a row and sitting

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at work like usual, vacuum bananas
and unlike Durell, I will call Johnny

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what Maria is up to? Jesus
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Oh I should get all that ship
up. Yeah yeah, I'm doing it

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well. I'm going to preface this
episode with I realize I sound like shit.

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I apologize. I have a cough
drop in my mouth. I apologize

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if it hits my teeth. I'm
not trying to piss anybody off. But

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here we are. That mono took
a week to hit. Huh. Oh

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snap, I don't even know what
to say. Nothing, speechless, speechless.

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Yep, all right. I did
not get the name of the episode

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because it doesn't matter. But we
are in season nine, it seems Season

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nine, Season thirty nine, episode
ten, oo, everybody gets and uh,

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this is the episode where TJ said, hey, we're halfway there,

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Tim went, what the fuck?
I know it? And then this episode

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nobody goes home. This episode no
cash, money increases or decreases. This

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episode is meaningless. Why did we
do it? But here we are?

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Why are we recapping it? Why
are we even here? Guys? What's

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going on? The episode was called
Feeling Used. Feeling Used? Okay,

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all right, all right, So
we start off with getting back to the

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house as normal and everyone is super
subdued. It was real like it real

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sad tones to begin the episode.
It was very weird. It was.

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This whole episode had some weird tones
to it. Yes, we've got Colleen

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thinking that she's going to be the
number one on the list for the girls.

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Now we've got Kyland was left a
love note by Melissa. There's pictures

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of a kid in him? Were
they really? If you only notes?

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When there's pictures? I do like
it when parents are parents, I do.

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I'm into that. The love notes, I could take it, take

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or leave those leave them? Yes, I should say I don't want to

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take those. I'll leave the love
notes. Yeah, I could care us

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about this as well. He also
mentions that he's sad about her leaving.

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He's happy about the note, and
he realizes that it's probably a good thing

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that she's gone because it's better for
his game. It is funny. Both

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both Colleen and Kyland are like,
oh, maybe I should start playing the

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game now. Yeah, where you've
been spend time? Get on it,

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And then we get a scene of
Michelle and Mariah sitting on the floor doing

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not makeup, but putting facials on. Tim, how'd you feel about this?

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You know, I'm less worried about
this. I don't know why.

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I don't know why. For those
who real deep cut here for those who

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are not aware did not listen many
many years ago. Tim does not like

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the scenes of the girls putting their
makeup on. He feels like it's too

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intrusive and yeah, deodorant too.
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's

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a weird. It's a weird hang
up, and it's not it's not related

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to the challenge. This is just
a real life. It makes me feel

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really uncomfortable. I don't like to
I don't like to see it. So

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do you have the commercials come on
and you run out of the room screaming

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uh huh. Yeah, it's seriously
traumatic for me. No, it's just

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slightly uncomfortable. It's just like,
I don't know, it just feels like

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it feels like I shouldn't see that. I don't know. I don't know

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how to explain it. I know
it's a weird thing for me. What

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can I say is we discussed this
like a month ago, and the next

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time I went over to Alison's house
she's doing her makeup. I was like,

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do you need me to leave the
room? Is this weird for you?

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No, it's She was like,
no, No, she was like,

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no, it's fine, Tim,
It's just weird. I genuinely think

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I'm the only person in the world
that feels this way. But I do,

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and I don't know it really.
If I could, it's Tim,

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I don't know why. If I
could take a pill, I bet I

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had some moment where my mom yelled
at me or something when I walked in

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on her. You know what I
mean. It just like it's just like

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in my brain now of just run
woman putting on makeup, just run away.

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Did your sister put makeup on you? Is that? What did it?

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I have no memory that I could
trace it back to. I would

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share it if I could. It's
just I don't know. I don't tell

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you. Facials are fine, though, I don't know. I don't know

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why. Okay, weird. Yeah
that's because they're basically doing the same thing.

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But what I know, I know. But yeah, they're sitting there

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having a whisper conversation about Johnny Bananas
and James, and Mariah saying that she

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doesn't feel bad about it. She
feels bad that he's hurt, but she

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likes James. And this is just
a running theme for this entire episode for

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the whole season. Yeah, this
Johnny Banana's at home. This is the

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fourth or fifth episode. Er we're
doing this. It's like, I don't

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feel like it's going to advance either, Like this is not going to be

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resolved in this season. It's just
why are we doing this? Why are

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we still talking about this? Yep? You know? Yeahs Bananas and no,

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I do not. Bananas has got
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the cast. That's what I was
gonna say. How could you miss Bananas?

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He's there? They've talked about him
every episode. I wonder if he's

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getting resident in this episode, he
should get residuals. Glad heartbroken. Yeah,

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he's done this to enough people.
It's about time that's done to him.

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I love Torris sign language to her
sign for Johnny Bananas is pointing to

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her eyeball he's heartbroken. I don't
know what the eyeball thing was. I

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don't know. It thinks it's like, why is Brad heartbroken? Nice?

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Yeah, and Michelle's basically just mourning
her. You need to not get so

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close to James. Production that keeps
stirring the pot. It absolutely is.

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I have the same thought that production
is getting all the vets to say say

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something when they come out this episode. I was kind I kind of liked

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this episode. I kind of did
it. I like the rel and he

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was he was pretty chill about it, So I don't know, I could

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also feel like it if all the
mercenaries are like staying at a hotel together

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and till it's their turn, Like
I'm sure once the first one got back,

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that was like all they talked about
for like days, So it's probably

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on their mind when they going to
compete. Is Johnny there at the time.

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Do you think Zach is he in
the country, Is he on location?

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Why would he be there? Well, that's that's the rumor, that

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he was on location to do this, and then like once you found out

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about Mariah, he's like, peace, I'm out, I'm not doing this.

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That's why Brad's and mercenary instead of
Bananas. That's the rumor. Remember,

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Yeah, that Brad took his place. Apparently I just haven't paid attention

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every time you guys have said this. Yeah, so it's for debate,

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but it seems I think there's some
cast members who have confirmed the Bananas was

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supposed to be there. Okay,
Yeah, I found it kind of weird

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that Mariah was so like, oh
my god, if Johnny shows up as

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the mercenary this episode like later on, right, she seemed very worried that

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was a real possibility. Yeah,
I will forgive MTV for this season.

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If Bananas does come out at the
end, like as the last mercenary that

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they didn't reveal, you know,
will he's shaken? Not gonna happen.

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I don't think it's gonna happen either, but it would be really cool.

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It'd be cool, though, Tim
lakes to do that a lot. But

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there's like, Oh, the grunk
guy's in town, and I think the

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miss is wrestling in Chicago. What
if he shows up. I'm like,

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he's not going to show up,
But what if he does. I'm like,

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he's not going to Yeah, but
what if he does? But what

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if he did, He's not going
to show up. Hey, Mark Long

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showed up in Nashville. Will be
just just throwing that out there. Yeah,

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but this is what Markelong has.
The Miz has wrestling. He doesn't

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make millions of dollars a year wrestling
like the Mis does. Yeah, but

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still sorry, I guess it's over. But you know, Rivals four is

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gonna be amazing when they put James
and Bananas on the Oh god, all

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right, we've got Awsome saying that
he really wants Kylon know, We've got

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it's a lot of back up.
We've got a lot of in the house

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to begin with. Yeah, there's
just a lot of fluff in the house

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of people talking about just back and
forth about this alliance is great, this

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alliance is causing problems. Colleen makes
a a quip about how the Alliance is

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doing Jay and Michelle's dirty work.
And then later on in the episode,

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Kylin makes a Kylin and Hirossio talk
about how they've just realized that Jay and

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Michelle are running this whole thing.
Did people not realize that Jay and Michelle

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were running this whole alliance? Was
that really not clear to anyone? I

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think they did, but I think
early on everyone thought that they were like

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the third to Jane Michelle, and
now they're stand to realize they don't falls

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high in the pecking order as they
thought. Yeah, it was just it

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was bizarre because there were multiple comments
this episode about how it's kind of the

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Jay and Michelle show and everybody else
is just living in it. Yeah,

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like, I did you not realize
this for the last nine episodes? Yeah,

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not only last nine episodes, but
the last forty seasons. Like this

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is how it this is how it
works. Like, you know, you

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have an alliance and one or two
people sort of control it and that's kind

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of just the way it is.
So yeah, it's Jay and Michelle are

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controlling it this time around, and
people see him upset all the time about

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it. Yeah, I think it's
I think it's last week we're talking about

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Winter Picks and someone said Michelle,
and I said, oh, you know,

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Michelle always does good the first half
and then like she crashes and burns.

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I feel like we're trying to see
the beginning of them, Michelle crash

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and burn we are we're seeing said
Michelle turn against her. Yeah, like

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I don't know if this is the
scene where we see Berna kind of yeah,

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this is where this is where we
get the first interaction of the episode

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with Berna and Michelle, where Berna's
just talking herself in circles and Michelle's and

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they're looking at her like what is
happening. Yeah, Burne is a lunatic.

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She's insane. She was making no
sense here, and she's comes off

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as kind of like weirdly aggressive,
and I don't know, she makes it

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aggressive but trying to like play it
off like she's a victim. And it

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was very bizarre. I couldn't make
heads or tails of what was going on

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in this In the scene same,
I just think Berna is chaos. She's

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just a chaotic person. And I
couldn't hang with it. I couldn't understand

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it. I couldn't really talk to
her, you know. Yeah, No,

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I only will pe We'll get this
but I feel like Berna is like

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the epitome of x poc heat So
who is this? Sure it's an old

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wrestler they named Xbox. They used
to term that as like when it's like

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such an annoying thing, you know, the bad guys want to be booed.

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But when someone is like so bad
that you just want to change the

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channel because you can't even watch them, right, that's Berna to you.

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That's Berna, Like I just want
to turn off the TV every time she's

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on the screen. I'm kind of
with you, ezactly. Bern It reminds

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me like later on this is more
when it comes up, but her Michelle

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started doing this again at the club
later. Berna's reminds me of the type

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of people from like grades school.
It's just like, Okay, you're my

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best friend, you can't be friends
with anybody else. Yeah. Yeah,

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And that's just like the way she
comes off and I'm like, yep,

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I agree with that. Yeah,
and makes everything about herself, everything that

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happens. She's She's like, how
can I make this about Berno? Yeah,

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Scopper is up a good point.
He says, what's with the what's

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the deal with her constantly talking about
how much she loves Michelle. It's a

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yeah, it's a it's a weird, it's a they have a weird relationship,

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but they do whatever. Then we
get a scene of Ed teaching Zara

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and Emmanuel martial arts, which Ed
talks about how he is nationally and internationally

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ranked and all that horror was,
which is kind of nuts. I like

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seeing some Ed here, but this
was another clearly shoehorned a production move,

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which I fucking hate it every time. It's clearly just like Ed, go

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do some taekwondo stuff. Who's around
Zara? Manuel go to? And I

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don't know, this felt weird,
it felt weirdly inserted. Yeah, but

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I will say props to production because
when they started showing this, I thought,

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oh, Ed's going home, like
we haven't seen it at all,

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and now he's doing it and saying
I don't think he was going home,

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but I thought he was going in. Yeah, I did too. They

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really fooled me. They did a
It was a very very James and Ed

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focused episode. Yeah, a Jed
focused episode, Yes, a Jed focused

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episode. But then finally finally we
were onto the challenge the chat. All

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right, this is what she tells
us that we're halfway through. Oh my

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gosh, guys, halfway through.
What a grind? What a grind?

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Ten more weeks? There, ten
more weeks. It's gonna be Valentine's Day

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by the time this thing's over.
I know, right, it took like

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half of the half of the season, now I know, and I'm already

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exhausted. I don't know how you
guys are doing it. You guys need

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you guys need raises, not me. I'll take a pay cut, all

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right. Well, the game is
called Skyball. Well, for you haven't

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said a lot in this episode,
we want to explain it. Oh,

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you're getting called out Wolfe. Two
people or not two people. It's split

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into two teams. Some of the
people go up in the sphere and they're

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like spinning around. First they have
to do a puzzle that spells out the

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word chaos. Once they get it, they can tell their teammates, who

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then unlocked doors on the side.
They start throwing balls out, and then

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once all the balls get out,
so they have to throw them in this

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pyramid. Whoever gets them all in
the pyramid wins. How do you guys

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feel about splitting like it's an individual
game, right, but they're splitting them

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into team and it means half of
the players are safe. How do you

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feel this It does seem like an
extreme amount. Yeah, I think so

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too. It should be payers at
most. I think I don't mind it,

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Like I like the variety of you
know, one week it's teams,

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next week it's solo vance and you
know, a duo. So I would

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not like it if it was every
week, but I think just you know,

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once every three or four episodes,
I'm good with it. It's just

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weird that there was only three men
that were sort of vulnerable here. That's

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I don't know. That just seems
weird to me. Was there four?

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Okay, even four? It's still
like, yeah, it was a little

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weird. But at the same time, like I don't I didn't mind it

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because I didn't mind there being teams. I found it a little strange there

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were only two teams instead of splitting
it into three. Yep, I feel

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like three would have been a better
idea. It puts more people up for

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up for grabs. But I didn't
mind. I especially because they know that

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they have the chance of it being
individual or teams or pairs or I didn't

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find it. I think one thing
is this season we have this huge alliance

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that Jane Michelle are running, and
I like the large team events with it

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being randomized, because then we have
a chance that if a team is like

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all of the j Michelle alliance and
they lose, they're gonna have to turn

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on each other, whereas if it's
all individual or duos, they can just

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keep throwing in the same people over
and over. Yeah, yeah, that's

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true. I just wish they found
a better balance of making people vulnerable.

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It's it feels weird to be halfway
through the game in an individual game and

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still have half the players not even
eligible. Like that just feels weird to

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me. But I don't know.
Yeah, the thing that felt weird to

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me was that even though they didn't
know that it was a guy's week,

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and last week we had it was
two women's days back to back, so

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there's they could switch it up and
do another women's day. It was very

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strange to me that James, one
of the biggest guys on the field,

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was in the sphere rather than running
around on the ground. I mean,

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I realized that that would have then
put four women in the sphere and four

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guys down below. But it was
just it was very odd. We've seen

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him run around. That's not really
true. Yeah, I guess that's probably

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why they did it. Frankly,
Yeah, very true. James sucks get

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the sphere. I also didn't know
the spheres were going to be spinning and

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like swinging around. That was that
was pretty entertaining. So Blue team is

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the one who gets their sphere upen
first, and Orange team is right after

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them. The Blue team kind of
has this strategy of putting all of their

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balls at their pyramid and then throwing
them up there, rather than just like

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grabbing them and hawking them, which
they thought might be a good thing.

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But ultimately Orange she ends up winning. Yeah. So, and I mean,

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I guess we don't as usual,
we don't get all the rules.

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Yeah, but some of those balls
were pretty close to like each other's pyramid.

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I would just take a run and
start and kick that ball as far

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as yeah, don't get that ball. Yeah, Kay mentions Nurie getting hit

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in the face. Yeah, almost
immediately too. Yeah, that's pretty funny.

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It was somebody a talking ahead of
her like I'm down there with the

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boys. I can do this stuff
too, and then both she was on

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the floor instead of James. Yeah, it's right. It takes her out

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like immediately, It's great. She
was definitely the girl in school to have

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balls. We know nurs so orange
Winds. We get a talking head of

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Raven saying about saying she's so excited
because it's her fourth win, And my

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only thought was, have you actually
contributed to any of these wins? Carl

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and I had a similar thought.
I looked through like you know, on

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the subreddit, it always tells like
the confessional counts, Raven is like the

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fifth place confessional person for the whole
season. Every time it shows her,

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I'm like, oh, I forgot
Raven's here, and it shows her like

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she's very prominently featured and she's not
really doing anything, and I always forget

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she's even there. She's just flying
under the radar. Yeah, which I

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mean, good for her, But
I just I don't know if she annoys

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me. Me too, same But
my you met her, that's because I

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met her. She was very nice
and very cute. I met Bananas once.

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I don't like him and I don't
think he's cute either. Denials more

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than a difficult all right, Uh, well, T j yet again tells

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them, tells the oun team they
have to pick their person right now and

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it has to be a guy.
So they deliberate. A few of the

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guy's names get thrown out, but
ultimately ends up being Kyland, almost unanimously.

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Rossio is the only one who doesn't
vote for him. He doesn't,

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and he points out that Jay purposely
waits to hear what everybody else says before

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he even speaks up, and he
gets He gets real pissed with Jay,

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which we will see later. Ummm
he talking ahead of him, basically saying

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that he's lost all trust in Jay. Well, this is when you start

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realizing where you fit on the Alliance, and Cayland is lower than he thought,

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and now he realizes it and that
sucks for him. But like it

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is what it is. I don't
think anybody did anything wrong here. I

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think just kind of a pussy but
like, you know, what are you

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gonna do? Like he didn't do
anything wrong. Jay needs to cut that

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hair. He needs to get rid
of hair. Yeah, oh god,

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that that poor boy in his receding
hairline. It is so bad. But

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you know, I saw, I
saw my hair disappearing, and I did

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I held onto it for as long
as I could, and maybe that's what

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he's doing too. Yeah, but
did you hang on to it when it

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was like six inches long? Nope, I had already I had already abandoned

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ship by the time. I looked
like Jay. But I get it.

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He's like, he's going to be
bald the rest of his life. Let

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him have another couple of years of
shitty hair, you know. I mean,

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he does do the bandana thing almost
all the time. He covers it.

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Maybe he'll get hair and plants like
like Benana's dead and Kyle and Kyle.

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I mean, if he wins anything, he might probably probably a bunch

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of these guys and we don't even
know it. Probably so we I mean

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real quick back to the house,
but really we go straight into club night

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its Kylon says that he's learning where
he lies, that Jay and Michelle are

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the center of everything, which is
again, like I said, it's it's

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weird to me that people don't seem
to have already realized this, or that

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this is like a new thought.
Yeah, it's very bizarre. This is

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what they should all be trying to
do, right, Every single player should

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be trying to look out for themselves. So to say like, oh my

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gosh, Jay's looking out for himself, well, yeah, of course that

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works. Is it just obvious though, because we know that because the confessionals

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and stuff. I mean possibly it
could be, it could be TV magic,

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but it just I don't know.
The way that the way that this

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game has been played, the amount
of say that the two of them have

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had, it just seems so obvious
to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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even just the concept seems obvious to
me. Kylin's saying like, oh

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my gosh, Jay's looking out for
himself, not the Alliance. Well yeah,

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like the point of the Alliance is
to look out for Jay. That's

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why it exists. If Kylon's not
happy with that, he needs to have

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his own thing that he's controlling,
you know, I don't know, yep.

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Well, I think it's because there's
been talk on this season when people

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do stuff against the Alliance that they're
like, they don't have the Alliance's best

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interest to her, And now Jay
is like being the poster boy for Oh

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I don't I'm just doing what's good
for me and not for everybody else,

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even though he's been one of the
people that's been like but we have an

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alliance, what do you do?
Yeah, but he's been trying to couch

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it as it's good for the alliance. Yeah. Yeah, Politically he's a

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mess. This is not he's not
playing a good game. And yeah,

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we'll talk more about that when he
gets into that conversation with Hirasio and Kayland,

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which is politically he looks like a
jackass. Yep. We get James

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talking to Mariah per usual saying that
he thinks that he's going to be the

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the House vote because he's not in
the US Alliance. We get Michelle and

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Corey talking, and Michelle and her
talking head so that he's a great Alliance

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member. I'm just like this could
mentioned. Yeah, this gets mentioned a

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few times by a few different people
this episode. How in the hell in

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like two episodes has Corey gone from
being bottom of the barrel everybody hates him

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to all of a sudden he's a
spectacular Alliance member and he's earned his trust

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back. What the hell did he
do in like three days? They make

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a couple of references to it this
episode, like they don't talk about what

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he did, but yes, I
think Michelle says his game rose from the

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ashes or something. Yeah, Olivia
talks about it. I think Jay says

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something like even Corey himself does,
doesn't He says like, I dug you

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know, I dug out, I
dug myself out of the hole or something.

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But yeah, no insight as to
how he did it. I don't

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know. Now, all of a
sudden, he's just so Yeah, it

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is so bizarre. I think just
you know, like he made his declaration

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of where his loyalty lies and now
he's the ultimate alliance layup. I mean,

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I guess he's just the bottom.
He's a safe member, the bottom

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somewhere. Yeah, yeah, it's
probably right. We get We're still still

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at the club. Mariah is going
around in politicking for James. She's trying

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to make deals with Maurice to keep
James out of out of the elimination.

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I think this episode is going to
do a lot to hurt Mariah. Oh

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my god, this was so bad. Yeah, so bad girl. What

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are you doing? Yeah? I
do like seeing her play the game,

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and I think she's smart, and
I think she's sad, and I think

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she can sort of see gears.
But she's focusing on James, who is

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the worst, like she should be
focusing on herself and and you know her

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alliance and if she used these you
know, this sort of insight deal making

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for somebody that would help her,
that would be a benefit to her.

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James, James isn't going to do
shit for her. Oh he's not going

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to be able to No. No, he doesn't even fight for himself.

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Like she's giving him strategies and and
she's right like he should go politicking,

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and he's just like, no,
I'm not gonna not gonna do it.

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You do it for me or or
not, like whatever, but I don't

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know. Weird, Yeah, it
was very strange. Let we get the

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the second scene of Berna and Michelle
and Berna I wrote in here Berna is

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acting like a crazy ex girlfriend.
She's sitting at a table across the bar

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watching Michelle talk to these other girls
and is sitting there getting jealous that she's

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talking to other girls and having a
good time. And then she walks over

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to her and says, why do
you you spend more time with them than

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you do with me? Like,
yes, this is a very off putting.

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What's happening is very weird. This
is when I got the vibe.

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It's like grade school, like we're
best friends, don't with anybody else.

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Yeah, we're so weird. It
is. It's very possessive and very strange.

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Yeah for someone in their twenties,
like what are you doing? Right?

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But pulled her shorts up too much
and for circulation. All right.

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Back at the house next day,
we've got ed. Surprisingly, he pulls

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Michelle aside and says that he doesn't
want James to be the House vote.

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He wants it to be Corey,
and I'm not entirely sure. He said

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that the reasons why James would be
good to keep, and I'm not entirely

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sure what those reasons are. It
says like he could still be useful at

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some point. Yeah, but how
No, he doesn't really elaborate. She's

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weird, I think because he doesn't
really like politics or strategize. He just

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does whatever Mariah tells him to do. So he's like a mindless drone that

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they could point in any direction.
And also he's like a major target in

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front of them that will always you
know, people always go after before him.

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Yeah, and I think that they're
not scared about him. In a

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final mm hmm. Yeah, It's
probably also part of it because he's gonna

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gas out real quick. Yep.
Already, Yeah, yeah, I can

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see that. Hopefully that dude's doing
cardio. Jesus Christ. We saw him

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on the treadmill walking like an ape
That dude has the ape walk. Did

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you guys see that he's all hunched
over his arms, just like flailing.

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That's an ape walk that dude's got. It's great, that'll happen. You

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still got that neander DNA obviously,
look at the guy, listen to him,

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obviously. Map We've got a scene
of Jay talking to Kylon and Horassio.

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Kylon starts us off by saying,
uh, I've got Horassio here to

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make sure that I don't jump you. Jake has a look at his face

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like, oh shit, what this
is such a weird conversation, so uncomfortable

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with these three guys. It was
a weird conversation because tried to get himself

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out of the ship by throwing Horacio
and nurses in front of Horacio under the

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bush. It was a very weird
Yes, this is very weird. Yeah,

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I don't understand what Jay's strategy was
here at all. This is very

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this is weird. Yeah, yep, because is part of his alliance too,

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right, Like, yeah, throw
somebody else under the bus, dude,

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somebody that's not standing right next to
you and is in your alliance,

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Like come on, yeah, Like
pick Mariah and James because they are a

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very obvious example of you going off
and being in a relationship rather than being

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in the alliance. Yeah. I
think this is where Jay is stupid.

406
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:51,880
He's just he's just not connecting the
dots or something in the way that he

407
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,519
needs to right now, you know. Yep. Yeah, to Zach's earlier

408
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,640
point of Michelle starting to blow up
her game, this is James blower or

409
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,640
not James, this is Jay blowing
up his game. Yeah. Yeah,

410
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,799
Well, these these are all the
losers, right, These are the guys

411
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:06,799
that have played this game a bunch
of times and don't really know how to

412
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,880
win it. So I guess I'm
not surprised that it's kind of chaotic and

413
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,640
stupid, but it's frustrating. Yep. And speaking of blowing up your game,

414
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:22,200
we get a great, great scene
of Mariah being real pissy standing in

415
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,359
the doorway talking to all the other
ladies that are in her alliance about how

416
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:32,079
she has made a deal with Nourice
to keep James safe. Yeah, and

417
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,960
all the girls are looking at her
like, what the fuck did you just

418
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:45,119
do? God? It was what
was Mariah thinking here? You don't know,

419
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,440
does she think that they'll understand or
be on her side about this or

420
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,920
something? I guess. So did
she come in like, hey, guys,

421
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:57,160
great news I got I've worked out
this deal with Rees and they're just

422
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:03,079
like what. Yeah. It seemed
like that's how she was presenting it.

423
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,240
Frankly, I don't know how it
actually was, but that's how it seemed

424
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:10,440
on the show. And she kept
trying to say like James has saved each

425
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,920
and every one of you, right, going over my head like has he

426
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,240
because I don't think he has.
No, No, he hasn't. No,

427
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,759
he just hasn't voted for them,
which isn't the same. She's just

428
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,839
in love with him, and that's
just it doesn't make logical sense. None

429
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,680
of this makes any logical sense.
She's just into this dude who doesn't seem

430
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,480
into her back. But no,
he doesn't. I don't get him.

431
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:41,160
He seems to like to be like
to have someone to cuddle with at night,

432
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:44,519
but he does not seem like he
likes her the way that she likes

433
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:48,039
him. No, No, I
think she's gonna have a harsh reality check

434
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:53,240
when she leaves. Yeah. Well, and it's just poetic fucking justice because

435
00:31:53,279 --> 00:32:02,240
we immediately go into nominations, name
bitch, and every single girl says James

436
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:13,640
is straight to her face and Mariah
is pace. Do you think that this

437
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,960
is a big enough offense that Mariah
is now in danger next week, even

438
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,160
though she's got a big alliance protecting
her. You think they're gonna I think,

439
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,240
protecting her anymore? And no,
I think I think this was the

440
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:28,960
straw that broke the camel. Yeah. I think they see clearly that it's

441
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,599
not like she's in that alliance,
but she's not looking out for the alliance.

442
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:34,960
She's looking out for James only.
Yeah, and so why would the

443
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,119
alliance keep around. I also think
she's gonna be a target. I guess

444
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,160
we'll see it. I think I
think they're gonna say she's too chaotic,

445
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,000
too all over the place, she's
not focused enough because she's too focused on

446
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,200
James. That's gonna be their fuel
just to throw her in. Yeah.

447
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,039
Yeah, yep, I think that's
what we'll see next week. Yeah,

448
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:58,480
she's gonna have to be on the
winning side every week to not be especially

449
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,680
she's gonna have to be on the
winning side next week to not be thrown

450
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:12,200
into elimination for sure. Yeah,
nominations are nothing other than Corey doesn't get

451
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,960
any votes, Ed gets too,
and James gets all the rest. Yeah,

452
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:20,799
they always they've been selling the nominations
like we should wonder who it's gonna

453
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:22,240
be, But it's it's turned out
to be the most obvious person every time.

454
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,559
Yeah, it really has, which
kind of unfortunate because like the one

455
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:34,039
it was it last episode when it
ended up being Colleen, I really did

456
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,440
think that they were gonna end up
throwing Mariah in there. I thought Colleen

457
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,960
made some very good points and the
guys agreed with her enough to be willing

458
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:47,440
to throw her in and it didn't
happen. But MTV they can still fool

459
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:54,200
us sometimes, Yeah, occasionally nigans. Yeah, all right, elimination.

460
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,640
We are cruising through this episode,
Tim hell yeah, because nothing happened.

461
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,760
We get to the elimination grounds,
TJ does his normal spiel, to beat

462
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,760
the best you have to be to
be the best, you have to beat

463
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,239
the best, and Darrell walks out, did you guys catch though? Kylon

464
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,280
dropped Durrell's tagline, Zach, I
think you might be the only other nerd

465
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:29,400
that would have noticed that. It
was before they introduced Durell. Kylon said

466
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,079
something like, Hey, I'm going
in there because you know, you gotta

467
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,880
What's what's the saying. He's like, you gotta stay ready so you don't

468
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,280
have to get ready. Darrell says
that a lot. So when Kylon said

469
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,519
that, I was like, Oh, it's Drell. Yeah. Oh I

470
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,119
was gonna say. I didn't hear
Kylon go, Yeah, I'm ready for

471
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:57,679
some whopper sandwiches. Yeah. So
Darrell has fourteen seasons, six finals,

472
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:00,159
and he is the only champ to
have ever won four in a row.

473
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:06,039
They are also the only four wins
that he's got. Yeah, you've talked

474
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,400
about this, Carl, and he's
watering down his life. I'm sorry.

475
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:14,440
I I really liked the clip package
because it showed a bunch of clips from

476
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,440
him back in the day. It
did not show a single clip from him

477
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:22,119
recently, because every time he's shown
up since he came back, he has

478
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,800
shipped the bed every single time.
This one included well, he's made the

479
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,920
final a couple of times shipped the
Bed's a little Uh. That's exaggerated,

480
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,480
isn't it. No, not for
someone who was a four time champ,

481
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:38,440
four times in a row champ.
He has shipped the Bed every season,

482
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:44,239
Ship the Bed made it to it. He hasn't made it to a final

483
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,880
since he came back. He has
made it to the episodes before the final,

484
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,159
but I don't think he's made it
to an actual final. I think

485
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,320
so because you want to. I'm
not talking All Stars. He gets playing

486
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,079
All Stars all he wants. That's
totally fine. I'm fine with him being

487
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:00,639
in All Stars. I'm talking about
in the act in the regular season,

488
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:06,800
regular seasons, he is shipped the
Bed. I am coming back very animated.

489
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:15,920
I hate that he has chainted his
legacy and then and then turned out

490
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:22,920
our lights children. So when when
TJ said he made it to six finals

491
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,280
with CJ counting All Stars anything,
I think possibly. I do think he

492
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:37,519
was okay. Yeah, they showed
a clip of him from Invasion, but

493
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,239
occasionally Invasion was also like seven years
ago. Yeah, and all he did

494
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,800
was it was he didn't come into
his mercenary. It was your first season.

495
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:52,079
Yep. That's how I know.
It was roughly seven years ago.

496
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,840
So, I mean that was nearly
a decade ago. I don't think that

497
00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:00,760
counts as a recent appearance. We've
been doing this show too long. Ship

498
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:07,719
mm yeah, what's the game?
What are they playing? Oh wait,

499
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,280
we haven't gotten we haven't even talked
about the drawer they get. So the

500
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:20,639
draw he ends up picking Kyland,
which Mariah gets very excited about because she

501
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,360
she did mention. This is when
she mentions a few different times that she

502
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,920
really hopes that Johnny Bananas isn't the
one that's going to walk out there.

503
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,159
And then Drew comes out. But
Mariah is real smug when James comes back

504
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:36,199
up. Yeah, like she had
a role in that, the luck of

505
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:42,079
him pulling the right ammer. Yeah, pretty stupid, dumb, Yeah she

506
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,639
was. If she was smarter politically, she should just kind of just play

507
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,840
this cool, you know, don't
show her cards too much. But it

508
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,480
target Yeah, too late for that, Mariah. Yeah, so the game

509
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:58,800
is called Firewalker Zachi Bananas. You
want to tell us what the game,

510
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,119
what they have to do for the
game. I would love to if I

511
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,679
remember what they did. Oh I
me. So they had these like six

512
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,639
torches in the air, and they
had to like rotate a platform to like

513
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:17,800
light all the torches. Yep,
yeah, it was a cool game.

514
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,280
Scott says he would have liked to
see something game. What are you talking

515
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,199
about? Well, okay, I
thought it was interesting. It was interesting.

516
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,199
I would have liked to see this
in like just sort of a normal

517
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,159
elimination is fine when they're bringing out
these vets like this, I agree it

518
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:37,679
should be hands on or something just
more fun to watch. This was like

519
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,119
there's sometimes there's eliminations that like sound
really cool and they're probably fun to play,

520
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,280
but they don't make good TV.
And this was one that like did

521
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,719
not make good TV. Yeah.
Oh well, I mean it was almost

522
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,320
dead silent in the arena. One
because they can't really give any direction for

523
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,239
this, but two, I'm sure
they were all just still on pins and

524
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,880
needles, like yeah, and the
men you're not you're not moving or doing

525
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,400
anything, Like you're standing in one
space, just sort of spinning around.

526
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,880
It's it's like, yeah, I
don't know, there's just you're trying to

527
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,599
use momentum to shift the platform,
right. This is the first this is

528
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:13,440
the first game that so last week
we had a game that did not play

529
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,119
to the Challenger or to the mercenaries
strengths, but it did play to the

530
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,639
Challenger's weakness. This is the first
game that did not play to Durell's strengths,

531
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,719
and it also did not play to
Kylon's Weaklysses, and I was disappointed

532
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,880
of that because especially we get a
confessional from Durell saying, I'm the guy

533
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,280
you don't want to see when there's
a pole in the sand. It's like,

534
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,679
well, great, let's see that. And then we didn't get that,

535
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,559
and he said that, I almost
thought, wait, was there a

536
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:43,599
pole in the sand? Yeah,
it's a bummer that we didn't see,

537
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,960
like an actual, an actual you
know, knock him and drag him out

538
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:53,159
game. Who would have been a
good champ for this game? Oh,

539
00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:02,639
Derek, Derek. I can see
Derek's real nimble Chris says Wes in the

540
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,800
chat. I think him, Wes, Wes, Wes would be a good

541
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,400
one for this Yeah. Jordan,
Yeah, Jordan's good at everything. Mm

542
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,039
hmm, Bananas is good at everything. I was thinking Derek just because he's

543
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:19,760
sorta small. I bet he's got
really good core strength. Yeah. But

544
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,599
when I think of this game,
when I think of Derek, I think

545
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:25,119
of in the Sand games. Yeah, this is someone that, like,

546
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,440
you need a little bit of brains
to do this game. Yeah, this

547
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:31,599
is a little more precision, a
little less heart. I guess, yeah,

548
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:35,000
you're probably right, all right,
fuck Derek, you guys are right.

549
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,119
Derek's the worst. I feel like
Derek would be good in one where

550
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:44,320
they have like the bungee cord attached
to their back trying to like, yeah,

551
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,119
so like a button or something.
Yeah yeah, yeah, and you

552
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:51,360
could only do as a mercenary.
But I used to love I don't remember

553
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,079
what Seasons was from. Uh,
you guys might remember, but the one

554
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:58,239
way they had to like answer trivia
questions that were on coconuts and then have

555
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,360
to run down like Russell Kyle played
that game. Yeah, yeah, I

556
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:07,400
love that one. That was Oh
that was Kyle versus Bear because both of

557
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,800
them were Moruns and couldn't remember.
They had to wait until the answer hit

558
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,360
the ground and wait for the crowd
to say what it was going to be,

559
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,119
and then they'd running cocutt. I
forgot that one. I want to

560
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:19,480
say it was like Derek's first season
they did that, like yeah, oh,

561
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,400
I might be thinking of a different
game. It was like in the

562
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,840
Gauntlet or something like one of the
really early ones, and I think it

563
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,840
was just called name that Coconut or
grab that coca something real fucking stupid.

564
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,360
Yeah. Oh yes, okay the
other season, like Derek went in like

565
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,840
every single elimination. Yeah, yes, yeah, the coconuts had answers written

566
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,360
on him or something. He had
to grab the right one and I don't

567
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,679
remember exactly, so yeah, I'd
love to see Derek and something like that.

568
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,800
Again. Yeah, yeah, it
was. I just I I have

569
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,079
in my notes saying, what the
fuck is this game? Because again,

570
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,280
like you to your point, Tim, this is I didn't mind this elimination

571
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,519
if it were a normal elimination,
but if you're bringing in a mercenary,

572
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:02,320
do a game that plays to the
mercenary, Like what are they doing?

573
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,239
It should be a direct one versus
one. And I know this was sort

574
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,519
of but like they weren't playing each
other. They were playing in individual games

575
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:14,519
separately, you know what I mean. You're not like it needs to be

576
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:16,920
pulling against somebody or pushing individual games
at the same time. It was,

577
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,199
Yes, it was weird. Yeah, it was not a amy. I

578
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,079
found it very because of that,
I found it very boring. To watch.

579
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:32,400
Yeah, time and Kylon wins to
RELLI loses again. Yeah, I

580
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,599
just yeah, I'm animated about it
because it's it. It sucks that he

581
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:45,519
has completely destroyed he's completely destroyed his
legacy. Well, let me he's such

582
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:47,800
a monster in this game and he
has come back and shipped the bed and

583
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,719
it just it pisses me off.
So Carlin, are you Let's say,

584
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,000
let's say Landing is primed to come
back for season forty. Would you want

585
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,599
Landen to come back even because even
you'd rather him live in the past as

586
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,480
just one of the best challenges of
all time. Yep, Okay, that's

587
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,960
fair. I don't want Coral to
come back to the game, and I'm

588
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,480
saying the regular game. If they
came back to All Stars, I would

589
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:14,119
love it because All Stars is a
different thing. All Stars is a bunch

590
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:20,800
of the guys and gals from way
back when who like it's I expect to

591
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,079
see them there. It does it. It matters a little bit less if

592
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:27,880
they lose in that game to me, because it's it feels more like the

593
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,840
original games. It feels more like
that crowd and it's just this game.

594
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:38,280
Maybe it's just the like having it
on a bigger stage, having it out

595
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,039
to more people, having this be
the first time that a lot of new

596
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:47,639
watchers are seeing these players, like
the first time they're seeing Darrell. Darrell

597
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,559
gets beat by some newcomer, Like, yeah, this is he was one

598
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:57,840
of the greats for years. He
was so when people were so terrified to

599
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,960
be against Yeah, and how he
comes out and he gets beat by Kyland.

600
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:07,679
It's just I see it. I
fully see what you're saying. I

601
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,000
love that you look almost disgusted talking
about it. You're very passionate about the

602
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:15,519
subject. I'm not. I love
I love seeing Durell. I'll see him

603
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:17,719
back every season. I think that's
great. He'll lose every time. I

604
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,559
don't care. I like seeing I'm
not I'm not passionate as Carlin, but

605
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:23,360
I agree. And I know I've
said that before. It's like, yeah,

606
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,480
just his legacies and he's just another
guy now. He used to be

607
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:31,559
special. Now he's just another guy. The worst part about it is that

608
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:37,800
my when I think of Durrell now, the first memory that comes to mind

609
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:44,119
is him sitting in the exile house
or in the Redemption House, sitting in

610
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:47,519
the bed in the Redemption House,
looking around at all of these like early

611
00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:52,039
twenties kids looking around at them,
like how the fuck did I end up?

612
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,400
And it was like within the first
like three not even I think it

613
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,360
was like the first episode of that
season, and that he ended up in

614
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,199
the Redemption House. Yea, And
that is that is the first memory that

615
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,400
I have of him now, And
it's just it's it's so shitty because he

616
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:13,880
was so good and I know,
I know she wasn't at the prime that

617
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,199
she is now, but like the
fact that you know, like he one

618
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,760
point in a row and then he
comes on Fresh Meat Too, and he

619
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,880
has Kara Maria of all women as
a partner, and they go out first.

620
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Yeah, like the mighty have fallen. I mean, at least with

621
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:32,639
fresh Meat too, he was it
was close enough, like I still he

622
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:39,079
was like first generation players. Kara
and ct CT kind of branches. Kara

623
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,480
and her group are kind of second
generation and now we're on to like third

624
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:49,760
or fourth generation players. And so
him coming back and lose it like going

625
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,440
out first with Kara still felt close
enough to his stuff where it's like,

626
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,880
Okay, it's just it's a fluke. It's because he's with her, it's

627
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,559
her first season, like yeah,
yeah, none of us knew a car

628
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:07,599
would be coming at that point.
But to have him come back in these

629
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:13,239
like third and fourth generation seasons,
I don't know. It's just it's it's

630
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,360
so unfortunate, and I would feel
that way, like if Brad I'm not

631
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,000
Brad. If I don't, I
don't give a shit about Brad. Brad's

632
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:23,440
been ship what take it back,
take it back. We'll be kick her

633
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:30,840
out, kick her out, kick
her out. Like if if oh my

634
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:37,000
god, I just no not landing
muscle, Mark good lord, rain fart.

635
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,800
If Mark came back to the regular
season and played and lost, I'd

636
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,079
feel the same way about him.
I fucking love Mark. Yes, if

637
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,039
I came back and did this same
thing, if Kral came back and did

638
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:54,320
this same thing, Like and I
don't know why I feel this way about

639
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,719
Mark, and I don't around like
Karl and Marfield, but to me,

640
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,079
like the fact that Mark's like the
guy father, He's like old, like

641
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,159
old old school and like when it's
fifty now, Like if he came back

642
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,480
to the main shot, I feel
like, okay, like we all are

643
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:12,039
going into this, including Mark himself, knowing he's not gonna win like you

644
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:13,840
know, so I wouldn't feel bad
if he's lost, Like, hey,

645
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,320
this is just like him coming in
and like, I know, I can't

646
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,360
keep up anymore, but I just
I want the adventure, like you know.

647
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:22,599
That's how I feel about Durell.
Darrell's not that much younger than Mark.

648
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,639
Yeah, but I feel like people
still Darrell probably still thinks he could

649
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:30,719
win, and I'm sure Mark would, but I would look at him obviously

650
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,440
still thinks that he can win.
Yeah, he came back this time.

651
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:38,000
He needs to stop coming back on
a regular show. Yeah, yeah,

652
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:42,079
some of these people. I do
feel this way about Durell. I would

653
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,440
love seeing him. I love seeing
him every time. But if he won

654
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:45,960
one more and then retired, I
wouldn't be sad about that. He's never

655
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:51,559
gonna win. Though he's never gonna
win a regular season. He might win

656
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:54,280
an all starts, He'll never win
a regular season. We were like minutes

657
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,239
away from Anissa winning a regular season, So if she could do it,

658
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,960
I think Durell could still find the
right formula. I think it's more minutes

659
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,159
away, but she also didn't do
it. No, I don't know.

660
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,280
I Durrell has made it close to
the final few times, but he has

661
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:15,440
failed every time to actually make it
there. I yeah, I'm just gonna

662
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,440
keep beating this dead horse. We
can move on. Yeah, No,

663
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:22,840
no so much. You are passionate. I like it. Darrell's a great

664
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,320
I hung out with Darrell for like
an hour and bottom of hot Dog.

665
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:34,920
Nice guy Up. It's no Wendy's
no import Wendy. I think I think

666
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:38,039
he's gonna be at the next Challenge
Mania. I guess who's a queen?

667
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:43,320
Can someone clip this and I can
like show it to him? Which one?

668
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,360
Carlin talking about him for twenty minutes
straight? Yes, I'll ask him.

669
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,320
Okay, well, you come on
our podcast and like have a at

670
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,800
the head with Carlin. You should
have never come back, Durrell. Would

671
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,159
you say it to his face?
Carlin? Would you say it directly to

672
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,679
him? Would you? That's really
rude. I tell him that I love

673
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,840
him, but he should not have
come back on the regular season. That's

674
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,079
really rude. It's a rude thing
to say. Well, the worst part

675
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:15,320
about it is that we haven't seen
an All Stars in like a year and

676
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,519
a half. Now, I know
it's crazy. If they kept doing it,

677
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,920
I realized that there's one Locked and
Loaded, but we still haven't seen

678
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,960
it. It was filmed like a
year and a half ago. I'm excited

679
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,559
about that hit. I was spoiled
on that one, and I've totally forgot

680
00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:32,599
who won it now because it's so
long place. But it's one of those

681
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:36,480
things that if they if they kept
it consistent with the with the All Star

682
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:40,079
seasons, I'm all for him showing
up on that. Yeah, all for

683
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:45,079
it. Yeah. I think that's
great because the All Stars seasons are so

684
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:49,119
much fun because it's all of these
players from way back when it's the game

685
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,679
that we all remember from years ago. Can I try to shift your perspective

686
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,519
just to touch Carlin? I mean
you can try. If he's already ruined

687
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:59,440
his legacy, right, it's already
ruined, it's already done. He can

688
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,119
just keep showing not because it's nice
to see him and he's just a cool

689
00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:07,519
dude. So all right. I
tried. I tried to Carlin. To

690
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:10,360
me, it's just he I just
feel like he's just digging that hole deeper

691
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,440
and deeper and deeper. I tried, Zach, tell him, I will

692
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:17,199
so Carlin. If Landing came on
and did an All Stars and just like

693
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,119
completely smashed it. Would you be
okay with him then trying to bump up

694
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:24,400
to the main show? No,
even if you win. Then he like,

695
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:27,480
if they're playing on All Stars,
they should not be on the main

696
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,920
show. All Stars should be reserved
for the And this goes for everybody.

697
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,079
Anybody who's playing on All Stars should
not be allowed on the main show.

698
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:40,000
Jordan's yeah, anybody. I feel
like All Stars All Stars needs to be

699
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:44,960
a game for those people that we
don't get to see very often, those

700
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,719
people that we love to see but
we haven't seen in years. It's the

701
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:53,239
it's the truncated timetable, it's the
more kitchy games. I want to see

702
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,199
the people we haven't seen in forever
going to show up on the regular season.

703
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:00,519
I don't need to see him in
the regular season and on All Stars.

704
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:02,840
Like, give your spot to someone
that I haven't seen in ten years.

705
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,039
I get that, But I think
someone like Land if he goes on

706
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,079
the All Stars and he just makes
it look like he's a pro athlete going

707
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:14,719
against like ten year old kids and
just demolishes everyone and embarrasses him and wins,

708
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,039
I'd love to be like him,
see him step up to the next

709
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:19,400
day and like, let me take
on the young guns now, you know,

710
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:25,159
the people that aren't on like AARP. Yeah, I don't mind that.

711
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,679
I totally see what you're saying,
Carlyn, and I agree with the

712
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,639
spirit of it. There are some
players though, that I will just I

713
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:37,079
enjoy seeing them every time, and
Durrell is one of them. Jordan is

714
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:44,239
one. I love seeing Jordan everything. Yeah, I have, but don't

715
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,280
care. It's fine. So we
know that allegedly the next All Stars,

716
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,079
Kara Maria is on it. So
would you be opposed to carl Maria ever

717
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:57,039
being back on the main show?
Then I, she and Jordan fall into

718
00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,960
the category She, Jordan's CT.
They all all into the category of I

719
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,760
feel like there's still main main season
players they shouldn't be going on All Stars.

720
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,840
Okay, I can agree with that. I'm I'm very much on the

721
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:14,639
All Stars should be reserved for players
that we haven't seen in forever. And

722
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:16,480
I realized we haven't seen Carr in
a few years. That doesn't count.

723
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,119
I'm talking players from way back when
she'd be like, your your first Challenge

724
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:25,679
season had to air while the Real
World was still on television. Yes,

725
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,320
I want players from back then.
I want players that we haven't seen Tech

726
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,920
money, Robin, all of them. I want I want those players on

727
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,840
All Stars. You're never seeing Robin
again. She's in jail or some shit.

728
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:45,280
Oh really, she's like lost her
mind. Yes, and apparently when

729
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:52,159
everything was apparently when every's see Tech
again, I think it's Tech. Maybe

730
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:55,159
I'm thinking there's some I thought it
was Tech there, like had issues with

731
00:52:57,159 --> 00:53:00,480
Uh he won like some money or
something on the last season and they still

732
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,079
has not been paid for it,
or like maybe it's his stipend or something.

733
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,039
But it feel like there's something a
couple of weeks ago about him saying

734
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:12,800
he'd never go back because production ows
him money for like all going over a

735
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:19,119
year now and they won't pay him
all right, But yeah, yeh,

736
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:22,440
I I heard Robin was homeless for
a while. Yeah. I remember us

737
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:29,239
talking about that drug problems and it
was like recent. So yeah, she's

738
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,719
always had some some issues. It's
it's unfortunately she hasn't been able to get

739
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,159
them. Figure. Need we need
eric Nie on there because his Facebook is

740
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,280
one of my favorite things to watch. He's a lunatic too, isn't he.

741
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,760
He's absolutely crazy. He's like posts
on stuff about like the benefits of

742
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,880
drinking his own urine and other crazy
things on his Facebook. Yeah, he's

743
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,800
gone. He was on like a
reality like a VH one reality show I

744
00:53:54,840 --> 00:54:00,440
don't know, ten years ago or
something where it was like can like Canfessions

745
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,400
of a Teenage Star, I don't
know whatever it was where they like revisited

746
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,280
his past and yes, he drank
urine and used it to wash his hair.

747
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:10,000
Like it was like, weird shit, He's just a weird guy.

748
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:19,760
M Yeah, we have gotten very
off the rails here. We'd just to

749
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,440
finish up the actual episode. We
say goodbye to Durell. As Derel walks

750
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:30,760
out, he gives a little dig
to Mariah and says, Mariah, don't

751
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:36,880
worry about it. I won't say
anything to Johnny. Yeah. I kind

752
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,960
of love that. This is why
I think production told Durell to say something,

753
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,599
because it was sort of like a
nothing comment. But it was sort

754
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:44,800
of like I just gotta say this, so here we go. Okay,

755
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,840
Yeah, but it was a nothing
comment with like a glint in his eye

756
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:52,000
and the look on Mariah's she just
stone cold, like, yeah, oh

757
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:57,079
shit, do you think this is
this is really being talked about do yeah,

758
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:00,079
do you think like Bananas asked,
or like one of the mercenaries like

759
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:02,320
volunteer to Bananas, like hey,
like let's make a pact all of us

760
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,920
when we go in there, like
we bring it up, it wouldn't be

761
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,280
surprised. Like just I mean,
I realized we talked about it being annoying

762
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,199
at the beginning of the episode,
but I kind of liked this one.

763
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:16,800
Oh apparently they edited out him saying
Banana would do the same thing to you,

764
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,440
says who true? Yep, that
is true. Yah, Banana's cheats

765
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:29,119
on everybody. Do I withhold my
judgment until Banana says something. But from

766
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:30,800
everything I've said, this was not
a relationship. I don't consider this cheating

767
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:37,199
same who cares well agreed, Yep, Well we might have something. Bananas

768
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,960
has not responded yet with words,
but we might have some response and actions

769
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,760
for the social media. Right.
He's smart, he's savvy. He'll save

770
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,599
his his input for like the end
of the season or something, when it

771
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:52,360
matter they reunion or something. He'll
chime into the reunion or you know,

772
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,320
well, we say goodbye to Darrell. Imagine thinking Bananas to like be the

773
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,519
host of the reunion. Oh god, he'd be awful. He'd be so

774
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:06,800
bad at being the host. I
think normally he'd be good as a host.

775
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,239
I do think with the whole Mariah
stuff. Yeah, like it'd be

776
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:14,559
too hard to balance doing the reunion
while also like giving us the Mariah tea

777
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:16,039
we want. No, he'd want
it to be the Johnny Banana Show and

778
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:20,079
that that's not the point. He'd
be terrible. He'd be the worst host

779
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:23,239
ever. Yep, sorry, Zach, I agree with them. I think,

780
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:27,960
wait, no, we're not We're
not done. We're not done.

781
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,000
TJ tells everybody go home and get
changed. You have an hour and we're

782
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:42,440
starting a new challenge night Challenges.
And I saw some gross food. I

783
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,519
think, are we gonna see some
puking next week? Well, so before

784
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,880
before we go too much farther,
do we want a real quick spoilers talk

785
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,679
about the mid season trailer. I
didn't watch it, but I'm happy to

786
00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:57,320
listen to you guys talk about I
mean, I don't remember anything except the

787
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:02,239
CT stuff we texted about earlier.
Well, spoiler spoiler spoilers mid season trailer,

788
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:07,480
the CT thing we saw in an
earlier trailer. I remember him carrying

789
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,679
the mace. Yeah, I feel
like they showed that in the beginning.

790
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,039
Yeah, I think I just didn't. Maybe I just didn't realize it because

791
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:17,559
we didn't know the mace was the
thing at the point. I remember thinking

792
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,920
it was not the mace from the
that they pull out. This was an

793
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:29,280
actual, like full full length ball
with a bunch of spikes on it.

794
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:32,599
Mace. So is that mace that
they pulled out. There's there's two hammers

795
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:37,400
that have that have names on them, and then there's the mace. Noah,

796
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,800
I don't think I realized that you're
pulling You're not they were taking notes.

797
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,320
You're not watching the episodes. Yeah, I thought they were all three

798
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,039
hammers, all right. I didn't
know that. Yeah, the third one

799
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:51,280
is the mace. All right.
Okay, so quick rundown of the mid

800
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,639
season trailer starts off with some sort
of jungle theme party. You get James

801
00:57:55,679 --> 00:58:00,679
and Mariah dressed in very very very
small on the themed outfits. Uh,

802
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:05,639
there's trouble in paradise between Nurse and
Horasio. You get them kissing and then

803
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:08,679
you get them crying. Michelle and
Jay are going at it at one point

804
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:13,039
in time, like fighting, not
fighting, fighting but yelling at each other.

805
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,920
We get Olivia crying, and I
feel like she was a voiceover in

806
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:24,440
the Narice and Horasio Trouble and Paradise
bit because Olivia is bawling in a scene.

807
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,159
It looks like they're going to be
at least two nighttime challenges, which

808
00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:32,239
is kind of exciting. One's going
to be over water and one's going to

809
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:37,599
be running through a field. Someone
one of the guys cuts up in his

810
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:45,800
hand. Scott says they were crying
because of how hot they both. Mariah

811
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:52,360
does nothing for me anymore. Nothing. We're talking about Narice and Yeah,

812
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,079
those are both, I get it
both. Yea, Yeah, one of

813
00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:59,719
the guys cuts op in their hand. Berna has medics come for some of

814
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,400
im in an issue. I don't
know what that is, but it looks

815
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,719
like it happens during the middle of
a challenge. And then it ends with

816
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,480
CT walking out with the Chaos mace. Yeah, he's walking out with it,

817
00:59:10,719 --> 00:59:15,360
which is what's driving me, like, I really hope that he walks

818
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:21,960
out with it and he just gets
to pick go ahead, Zach. Here's

819
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,360
my thing though, If they let
him walk out with the mace and he

820
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,000
gets to call his shot and he
goes out there and loses. He needs

821
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:34,079
to retire and never show up on
the show again. If they leave you

822
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,199
for last, they give you a
mace, like they like build you up

823
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:39,880
as this unstoppable star, and you
come out and you get molly wopped,

824
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:46,719
Like leave and you get molly wopped. That it's an Alaskan term, Carol,

825
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,159
you won't understand it. I've never
heard that from me. Like,

826
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,840
if you imagine if he comes out
and calls out Jay and then Dad just

827
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:58,559
like demolishes him and like sends him. Jay has beat him before. Yeah,

828
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,039
I hope he can out and doesn't
even have to play against him.

829
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:05,119
I hope he's They're just like Cet
picked four people that will go go home

830
01:00:05,199 --> 01:00:07,360
right now. He's just then they're
done. I do want to see him

831
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,239
compete, though, I want to. I would love to see him compete

832
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,880
against like James. He thinks he's
all high and mighty. Yeah, though

833
01:00:16,039 --> 01:00:21,320
James, his endurance would just run
down entirely. Who would he actually be?

834
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:24,519
You know? It would actually be
fun to see him again against Jay.

835
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,719
I am calling it what I would
I it would be fun to see

836
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,760
him go against Jay, and I
actually beat Jay this time. I'm calling

837
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,880
it. I will be very upset
if his elimination is anything besides the backpack

838
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:43,440
challenge. They're not going to do
the backpack challenge. They're never It's see

839
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:45,000
you keep saying things like they're gonna
bring back land and they're gonna do the

840
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:49,800
backpack challenge. They're never gonna do
these things because the backpack challenge is so

841
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:52,719
iconic that you cannot have someone else
to do it. It will never be

842
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,960
the same. I kind of agree, Carl, and it would to bring

843
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,639
it back with a week in it, just like the director, Yeah,

844
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:04,440
because he can never do that clip
all the time. Yeah, they're never

845
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,719
gonna do it again. They shouldn't, I agree, because yeah, he's

846
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,559
not gonna it cheapens what that what
that clip is, It's never gonna happen

847
01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:15,280
like it happened that time again.
It's it's the Drell of challenges. Yeah.

848
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,920
Yeah, it's a good way to
put it cheap enough by bringing it

849
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,920
back. And I still stand by
the fact that they would bring Landon back

850
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,599
for like a want twenty four hour
period as a mercenary. Landon will never

851
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:30,440
come back, I'm telling you,
Yeah, I think they would be willing

852
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,679
to. I don't think Landon would
come back for mercenary thing. I don't

853
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:37,880
live my life in absolutes in almost
any other way. This show I have

854
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:42,320
like very definitive. I will never
this will never let we're never. Yeah,

855
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,239
I've noticed that I'm waiting until you're
wrong too, because it's gonna it's

856
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:49,559
gonna happen. Well, you're almost
wrong about Josh last season. I just

857
01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:52,400
gotta say, well, but I
wasn't. But you were close to wrong.

858
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:57,000
You were close to her, but
I wasn't. You weren't wrong yet,

859
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,920
I know. And Landon shut up
at Challenged Mania and Denver like six

860
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,960
months ago. I know he's going
to a NAM. I know at Denver

861
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:08,440
he said his work schedule is a
big thing. If he can ever make

862
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,719
it work with his work schedule,
he would be down to do another season.

863
01:02:13,199 --> 01:02:15,840
So if he's saying they're saying I
would do another season, you can't

864
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,079
convince me. He'd be like,
oh no, you want to pay me

865
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:23,639
like potentially ten thousand dollars for twenty
four hours. Absolutely not. Tim said

866
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:28,320
Mariah does nothing for him, and
I challenge that by re sending that picture.

867
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:30,440
I don't need to see that picture. Nothing nothing. Wilfy just sent

868
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:36,400
the picture to to those in the
in the chat room. Wolfeye just sent

869
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:42,159
that picture. I appreciate you,
true Mariah. The screenshot of Mariah laying

870
01:02:42,239 --> 01:02:47,599
on the bed in like episode four, in her almost nothing bikini with her

871
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:53,599
ass just all out there. I
can appreciate it that it's a nice ass

872
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:59,519
without finding her attractive. Greatest moment
of the season so far. Well,

873
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:06,360
that's not not a high bar.
I'm just saying, Hey, everybody,

874
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,960
Hewerver challenge pot dot com joined the
Facebook group. You can also join our

875
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:13,360
patreon. What do people get what
they join our patreon too? All right?

876
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,519
We have one tier. It is
five dollars a month. The one

877
01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:17,800
thing I always forget to mention is
we have a disc Oh man, I'm

878
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,360
burping now. We have a discord. That's part of what you get for

879
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,440
your five dollars a month if you
want to chat with all of us.

880
01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:29,239
But Carlin, I'm on there.
I'm just on there. We have pre

881
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:30,960
shows and after shows, years and
years worth of content that you can listen

882
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,760
to for free or not for free
because you have to pass five bucks a

883
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,079
month. But you can do that. And we also say your name,

884
01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:39,559
So thank you to hold On.
Hold On you can do that, because

885
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:45,400
we had somebody the other two days
ago join and then delete their membership in

886
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,119
the exact same day. Oh shit, they just joined, probably downloaded all

887
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:52,000
the shit, and then we're like
them out. Well, good for you,

888
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:57,199
man, I hope you feel real
good about yourself the fact, who

889
01:03:57,239 --> 01:04:00,880
cares? We also say your name, so thank you to Alvin, Caroline,

890
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,239
Christopher, Cindy, Emily, Greg, Jamie, Julie Martez, Patty,

891
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,119
Rolden, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Sarah, Scott, seth Check

892
01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:15,880
and Stans. Really awesome reviews,
No new ones, Zach we got on

893
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,679
social media stuff would reviews for this
episode of me sounding like ship and getting

894
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:25,599
real real heated about Drell. Well, let's start it off with the bad

895
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:32,960
news, guys. Josh lost the
Reindeer Games. Yeah, what the big

896
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:38,800
brother Reindeo Games. He came in
sixth places. Wait are we surprised by

897
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:45,239
this? Yes? I mean no, but yes, yeah, but didn't

898
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:48,079
he win it by default because people
didn't want to vote for the other guy.

899
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:54,079
Basically that's a valid way to win
them. But yeah, that you

900
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:58,880
still have to survive. That's why
Sarah won the challenge, but you also

901
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,559
have to survive. Yeah, he
had to still make it one hundred days,

902
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:05,639
you know, being one of the
most hated people in the house and

903
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:14,280
convinced Bill not to vote him out. Okay, Carlin's Carlin's extra cynical tonight.

904
01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:18,039
Yes, she should be convinced.
No, no, I won't.

905
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:23,920
So it's this, it's this,
this cold that's just they can me super

906
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,440
cynical. So if you if you
guys, remember last week, ASoft had

907
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,199
a confessional where he called himself the
new Devin of the Challenge. Uh and

908
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,280
Devin and aesof have been going back
and forth about this. We had Devin

909
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:39,800
Devon's awesome and ace Off is a
moron. Well, Devin tweeted at him

910
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,119
and said, I've got to say
Asoff is playing a real weak slash scared

911
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,239
borderline pathetics game this season. Our
game plays nothing, Our game play has

912
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,840
nothing in common. I don't use
people. I picked my squad early and

913
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,159
roll with them to the good,
bad, and ugly. He's an absolute

914
01:05:56,199 --> 01:06:03,480
fraud, has been for a while, yes, which Asof replied Asof said,

915
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:06,960
let's see, if you're a real
man, Devin me you first elimination

916
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:14,400
next season, you weasel in this
way, Dev replied, just saying like

917
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:21,519
eat my ass loser or something shitty
awesome. Si Johnny Banas quote eat my

918
01:06:21,639 --> 01:06:26,239
ass TJ. It was something he
replied back, something funny and goofy.

919
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,360
Yeah. Well, and then one
of my favorite replies is that was Derek

920
01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:34,559
Chavez from a real world ken Kun
and the toun said, can someone take

921
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:39,239
asof out already? He's way better
on Rue Paul's Drag Race when he's just

922
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,679
a pretty face and nice body with
no voice. Yep, I don't disagree

923
01:06:44,719 --> 01:06:47,079
with that. Yeah, that Aesop
is completely intolerable. I do not like

924
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:50,000
him. Anytime he's on the screen, I want to change the channel.

925
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:54,159
Is he's just he's hard to watch, he's hard to listen to. He's

926
01:06:54,199 --> 01:06:58,599
so frustrating to listen to. He
likes to run his mouth, but it

927
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,079
just he has nothing to back it
up. In other news, uh,

928
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:09,559
The challenge All Starts three won the
award at the tenth Annual American Reality TV

929
01:07:09,639 --> 01:07:16,480
Awards for Most Creative Challenge. So
nice thatts to Mark Long and all them

930
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:24,880
challenge, I don't I think,
I don't know. It's just one specific

931
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:30,119
challenge if it's just their all their
challenges on the season in general, job

932
01:07:30,239 --> 01:07:40,760
Zach no Wolfe's the cynical one.
What's up? Both Cam and Jenna slash

933
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,119
zach Uh posted on their Instagram this
week that they planned to come back to

934
01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:49,800
show in the future. So I
hope Zach never returns. I think we'll

935
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:54,719
see Zach again. Jenna. I
don't know if we'll see Jenna oh,

936
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,239
because she's not allowed to. He
throws a fit every time she leaves.

937
01:07:57,239 --> 01:08:04,400
Truthfully, that's probably like the part
of the reason why m so and then

938
01:08:05,079 --> 01:08:12,599
Mariah put out this interesting tweet l
LMAO. I told a certain someone that

939
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,600
I wanted to start my own crop
top brand with little phrases like some of

940
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,439
the shirts I wear, saying I'm
not like most girls, I'm worse and

941
01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:25,920
no boyfriend, no problem. And
my family just sent me that sent me

942
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:30,119
that a certain someone did exactly what
I told him about. So if you

943
01:08:30,119 --> 01:08:33,479
would like shirts like that your known
crop top, go to Johnny Bananas shop

944
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:39,399
dot com. So there is Banana's
response. He uh. He basically took

945
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,720
Maria's idea and started it well,
and I love Maria's idea. Is how

946
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,920
about I have a T shirt printing
business, like fucking everybody does this,

947
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:51,760
Like this is not a This is
not an idea, Mariah, Yes,

948
01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:57,920
it's not an idea. Somebody can
steal. We don't do this. We

949
01:08:59,079 --> 01:09:02,159
don't have a good merch we used
to. We have merchan We have merchants

950
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:13,279
like I wore pizza shirt the other
day. Nice represent We do need to

951
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:15,840
get some new merch. We gotta
think of us some ideas. Now I'll

952
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,359
be ripping off Johnny bananas if they
do. Do we do more of those

953
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:29,399
stickers? I gotta because this is
an audio podcast, not a visual one.

954
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,520
I have a challenged sticker on my
water bottle that was sent out as

955
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:42,760
part of a Valentine's gift or Valentine's
card. Uh four years ago. Okay,

956
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,000
so I missed one and Chris,
thank you. Christopher reminded me,

957
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:48,960
o't know how I missed that.
But Uh, Olivia and Theresa are going

958
01:09:49,039 --> 01:09:53,720
at it online. Let me see
if I can find where it is again.

959
01:09:55,079 --> 01:10:00,760
Sonrese uh went after Olivia and said, h, since you want to

960
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,239
like dumbass tweets that you very much
know aren't true, let me go ahead

961
01:10:04,279 --> 01:10:09,760
and expose you Olivia, since MTV
want to save you with edits, You're

962
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,760
a fake ass, pathological liar,
and majority of the cast know that you

963
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,399
sucked a Manuel off a week after
we got to the house and he was

964
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,000
embarrassed, which is why he never
hooked up with you again, despite you

965
01:10:20,119 --> 01:10:24,920
trying for weeks. You then lied
and said you had sex with him.

966
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,600
You then made up a story saying
Kyland professed has loved to you when he

967
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,560
never did. Wait when did she
say that Kylin professor's love to her?

968
01:10:33,319 --> 01:10:38,079
Apparently like I don't know if she
did that like to the public, but

969
01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:41,800
apparently in the house at some point
or to the cast. Olivia's claiming that,

970
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,800
I mean, honestly, you gives
a shit if she just gave him

971
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,960
a blowjob or had sex with him, like one way or the other day

972
01:10:48,039 --> 01:10:51,439
they still hooked up, Like,
don't understand why this is a fight.

973
01:10:53,119 --> 01:10:56,000
Yeah, And then the RESO also
said, please don't have me expose what

974
01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:59,560
you said your reasoning was as to
why you didn't like Kyland like that,

975
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:10,000
alluding to the fact that potentially racial
reasons. M Well, Nourice is trash

976
01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:17,960
there, she is right, She's
a trashy person. And probably Olivia probably

977
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:26,159
is too. All these people are, I mean Olivia's great. Kay brings

978
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:31,840
up that Olivia was with Nelson though
that is true, so racial stuff shouldn't.

979
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,279
Oh yeah, Scott brings up.
According to Bill Clinton, the BJ

980
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:42,640
is in sex. So these weird
language things that people latch onto, like,

981
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,720
oh, we didn't hook up,
I just went down on them.

982
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,720
It's like, what the fuck?
Like? I don't like. I don't

983
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,359
like when people say hook up when
they just made out with someone. Yeah.

984
01:11:54,479 --> 01:12:00,119
To me, a hookup requires some
sort of sexual something other than just

985
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,520
like a heavy makeout. So that's
the problem though, right is Yeah,

986
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,920
it's makeout to sex. It's all
hookups. So it's it's not specific.

987
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,920
If you say you hook up with
somebody, it's I'm no closer to understanding

988
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,479
what that means. You don't.
No, it depends on who you're talking

989
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,000
to too. Yeah, I got
I got a female friend years ago.

990
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,239
Like we knew each other in high
school, I didn't see each other for

991
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:26,560
a couple of years and then reconnected. She was talking about like, oh,

992
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,600
yeah, I when I was out
with this guy at the beach and

993
01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:30,399
we hooked up and blah blah,
blah, and I was like, you're

994
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,960
just looking up with people at the
beach, and the way she explained,

995
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,800
I'm like, no, you made
out with them. That's not the same

996
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,920
thing. Yeah, And apparently like
I just don't understand what hookup means,

997
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,800
because hookup means what you want it
to mean. It is a non specific

998
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,479
term that just means it all.
It's literally it just it depends on the

999
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,479
person you're talking to. Yeah,
it really does. Like to rules for

1000
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:56,239
hookup is like you have making out
and that can go real heavy, like

1001
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,640
heavy petting making out, but it's
still not hooking, but it's not hooking

1002
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:08,199
up. Hooking up is like hand
job load chub general have to be involved

1003
01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:14,159
with a hooking up? Is buying
a plain tickets Australia. No, that's

1004
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:17,000
a that's a straight up boys the
worlds, a straight up booty call.

1005
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:26,439
That's and then Emmanuel just Emanuel just
jumped in on Twitter and just said the

1006
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,760
Nurice tweets, she's right with what
she said about my involvement. Emanuel's trash

1007
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:41,119
too. I mean, yeah,
mm hmmm, anything else that No,

1008
01:13:41,279 --> 01:13:46,600
I think that's everything. Okay,
Uh well, I guess that's it for

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this episode of Challenge. This has
been bright Carl in San Diego, zack

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you bananas, and as uh Ed
said, silly gooses. M M come

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on, seriously, Yeah,