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It's time to talk flo, It's
time for the show. You hear this

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song on the radio fast Let Me
get Photograph? Sports Talk Radio starting now's

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go What's up everybody? And welcome
to one episode one hundred and seventy eight

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of let Me Get that Autograph?
As always, my name is Drew or

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the Dhjen joining me. My awesome
co host is a Scott Rapp Before what's

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up, dude? Oh? Living
the dream Man? How was Collectic on

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last weekend? It was awesome.
Collecticon was great. It was packed to

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the brim. I will say the
show itself was incredible. I did not

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get a chance to walk the entire
floor outside of set up and tear down

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because we were so busy, but
the turnout was probably two times what it

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was last year. It felt like
it was. It was incredible, totally

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worth going down there for you because
you did get a chance to spend some

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quality time with Chumley. Yeah stars, which was insane. Okay, this

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this is actually I'm glad you brought
this up because this is a story that's

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worth telling. What's up chum Ley? Um? But we're setting up and

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I hear someone yelled Drew, and
then I hear someone say dh and so

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then I I obviously turned around.
It's Chumley from I. Literally at that

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time, my brain is just like, what what the hell is going on?

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So I walk over and obviously I'm
like, oh my god, hey,

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how's it going? And my first
question, how do you know who

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I am? And he goes,
dude, let me hit that potograph.

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Let her rip. I've been listening
to you for years. So yeah,

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that was pretty crazy. Um,
And then it was pretty awesome because I

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figured I figured it might have had
something to do with you know, just

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like you and I have both known
Steve grad for a very long time.

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Yes, and I just years exactly
mean, he's you know, he's part

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of the pawn shows, Punstars cast, um, you know, being the

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authenticator and stuff like that. So
um, we figured it might have had

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something, you know, to do
with that. But no, this is

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and this is the first time I'm
hearing the you know, the story about

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how he approached you. So that's
a cool to hear. No, it

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was. It was really interesting.
And I don't know if it was from

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the show that me and Steve did, like I don't know, probably like

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six seven years ago now or what
it was. But um, yeah,

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that was pretty cool. That was
pretty interesting. So what's up, Chumbley

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shout out to you. I will
say this, dude loves the freaking hobby.

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He was set up selling all weekend
and I really every Yeah, he

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was set up. He was not
just a panelist or something. This year.

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He had a table and everything,
and he took time with every single

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person. And I'm not talking about
like, hey, how's it going real

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quick? He would pictures, he
would talk anything you wanted to talk about.

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You could have an incredibly personable conversation
with him all weekend. It was.

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It was incredibly cool to see.
And now here's here's my favorite part.

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He is an amazing actor. He
is, And I'll tell you why

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he is an amazing actor because he
does such an amazing job on that show

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convincing you that he's an idiot exactly. But in reality, he's one of

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the smartest guys that's out there.
Oh he is so sad, he is

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so smart. He is an incredible
actor because he is playing up a character

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I'm an idiot on pawn Stars for
the comedy relief factor, when he could

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easily do that show as an expert
and be that expert type of guy.

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But obviously he can also do the
humor, so they put him on a

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humor side for pawn Stars. But
man, he is not legible about the

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hobby. He loves it to death
and he is I was so impressed with

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how I immersed in the hobby with
other collectors. He was. He wasn't

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there or he just talk pawn off
his stuff and sell autographs or anything like

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that. He was there to talk
to people and set up a table.

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Yeah, which was, Um,
I don't know, it's kind of kind

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of weird to see it is,
you know, if you think about it.

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But um, hopefully, you know
what, hopefully he'll be at the

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National this year. Oh I would
assume he'd probably, yeah, because I

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was not I was not a collector
con and it would have been would have

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been cool to hang out with him
for a little while. But yeah,

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So sound like he had a good
weekend. Yeah, it was. It

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was a very good weekend. Also, got to spend some time with my

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mom, so that was that was
really nice as well as she's going through

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some stuff. So really good weekend
overall. But um, before we start

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the show today, guys, and
we've got a lot get into. I

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do want to take one moment and
just remember somebody who meant a lot to

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me that just recently passed, and
that original Panthers owner and the reason that

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the Carolina Panthers exist. Jerry Richardson
passed away. Now. I know his

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exit from the NFL wasn't exactly pretty, with the whole with the scandal stuff

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that happened and all that, and
I don't want to well, I don't

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want to get into all of that. But what I want to do is

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just remember this man. Because I
was a Panthers beat writer for a number

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of years, I got to know
him very personal. I knew him on

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a first name basis, he knew
me. We knew each other a lot,

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and I talked to him a lot. What he did for the Cydia

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Charlotte, for the state of North
Carolina and South Carolina, it cannot be

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expressed enough. He was instrumental and
the only reason we have a pro football

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team. What he did for the
community, of the stuff he would do

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and how he would talk to every
single person, just like I was just

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saying with Humiley, he was the
most approachable owner I've ever talked to.

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In my life, and when it
came to his players. You've seen the

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outreach from Thomas Davis and a lot
of other people. The only person that

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doesn't like him is Steve Smith and
rightfully, so I'm not gonna get into

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that that was the one thing he
did mismanage outside of you know, a

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couple other things. But you can't
look, you can't get it all right

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exactly. That's if that's the you
know, if that's the one managerial mistake

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aside from you know, the big
one that caused his exit, you know,

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then you're doing okay exactly. But
Jerry Richardson, I just wanted to

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take a minute to remember him say
thank you for everything that he did for

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me, because he opened up a
lot of doors for me when I first

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started out, because this was my
first gig doing anything, and he easily

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could have shut down the amount of
access I had and instead, from the

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second that I met him, he
helped open up a lot of doors for

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me and he did not have to
do that. And so I knew Jerry

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on a very personal level. Obviously, we've been a PSL owners since day

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one. Our names are on the
outside of the Panthers at the stadium.

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We've been involved a lot. He
was very involved with the PSL owners and

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everyone else and and all fans that
we're in this and so just one to

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remember. Truly great man that did
a lot for not only the state of

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North Carolina and South Carolina, but
for football and a lot of people in

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general. Very charitable person and a
wonderful man. So oh miss you,

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and I do want to say one
more time thank you, because honestly,

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without without him, I probably wouldn't
have made it a year two of being

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a beat reporter for the Panthers earlier
in my life. So thank you.

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And for those of you that don't
know, PSL is a personal seat licenses,

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Yes, season taking into the details, yeah, well it's it's season

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tickets to the next level. But
um yeah, I don't want to get

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into the details because every team does
a little bit differently, but go look

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it up. That's what it stands
for, is personal seat license. I

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would have popped in, but I
didn't want to ruin your flow with that

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one. There. So yeah,
sad, sad day for the Panthers fans.

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You know, yeah, I know
a lot of people in the community

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are going to miss you. Know
the work that he did, and hopefully

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his family members, you know,
continue on with all the stuff that you

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know that he was doing behind the
scenes for the community as well. Yeah,

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and and any Panther people if you
are listening, since I still talk

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to a lot of you, please
get that statue back up. We need

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we needed that statue up. You
took it down for no reason. Get

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that statue back up. That man
desires to be honored. But anyway,

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Leah said, I just wanted to
take a moment to talk about someone that

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really influenced my career that led me
here to do this show. So thank

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you, you know, thank you, mister Richardson. All right now,

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speaking of doing the show, we
have a great show coming up. So

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this week was the Tops Industry Convention, and we had a correspondent on the

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ground at the convention. Our good
buddy Kyle Stallsberg from Badger Breaks is going

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to be coming up a little bit
later in the show to talk about what

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he heard and saw behind the scenes. He's also going to touch on the

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Bowman Transcendent party which he went to, which is kind of cool, and

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then we're gonna get an update as
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But before we get to that,
something confusing has happened within Top Series one,

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and we wanted to give an update
because we talked about the product on

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the last show. I want to
talk about it a little bit more because

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this is just weird and nobody knows
what the hell's going on, and that

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is the hidden Gems. Yes,
Tops at the conference actually confirmed it,

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but it was very vague with their
answer. Their reply was you just can't

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see them. They're there, but
you just can't see them, as the

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quote, And so I posted on
my personal social media page, and obviously

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I talked to Ryan and them over
Real Breaks and the uncommon app who've ripped

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over three hundred cases alone. Stephen
Michael was filth Bomb, who've done like

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two hundred. I think we had
like thirteen hundred cases confirmed in this little

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group feed, and no one had
seen any of them, and so now

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everyone's trying to figure out where they
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They're there, but you just can't
see them, and it immediately makes

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me think that it's like a John
Cena card. Well right, yes,

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yes, exactly, it's John Cena
and in series one. Yeah, and

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now What it made me think of
was old school Alan and Ginter when they

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did the hidden cards inside the box. I'm I haven't opened any hobby yet.

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I do have some coming, but
I wonder if there's a way that

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they're putting a extra flap or something
on a box that has the hidden gems

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in them in there in the actual
box, or that would be that would

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be something that would be noticeable.
When they did it with Alan and Ginter,

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it was the the glossy one of
one, right. They embedded it

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into the lid of the box.
Yes, and you had to like rip

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open the top of the box very
carefully to see if you had one in

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there. Now, you would think
with the and that would be something that

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would be noticeably thicker on the lid
of the box. And you would think,

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with all of the people that commented
on the post that you put up

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there that represented like three hundred plus
cases of this product being open, that

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one would have shown up. No, Yeah, you would think so.

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And that's what blows my mind.
And that's why the other thing that I

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think it could be was did they
take a age out of the Pokemon book

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with the Ditto card where they spel
because that I'll tell you right now,

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there's a million of those that people
don't know because you can't tell a difference.

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You cannot tell, well, you
can, you can't tell the different

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because there's a tiny little logo difference
down in the bottom ley. No,

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I'm at holding it. When you're
holding it the cards, you cannot tell.

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Like if you're just flipping through Pokemon, you're not gonna be able to

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tell. Yes, there's a logo
to show you to peel, but there's

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no way in I mean, obviously
there probably is in weight if you have

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some crazy scale, but when you're
just flipping through the cards, there's nothing

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you know, texture wise or weight
wise that's gonna give it away. True,

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And so where are these? And
the only thing, well, I

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got a better hold on I got
a better question than where are these?

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What are these? Right? Because
there's one posted on Reddit that is no,

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I'm saying there's a card posted on
Reddit that maybe one of them that

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or it may be an unannounced parallel
who knows. But it's a rainbow foiled

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card with a lot of cracks in
it, almost like it almost looked like

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lightning strikes kind of yeah, and
it's on a rainbow foil, but also

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it almost also looks like a custom
card too exactly. But could this be

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a printing error on the rainbow foil. I don't know it. Maybe a

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rainbow foil was crimped at that one
part and then somehow I don't have any

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idea, Or is that the hidden
gem? I mean, who knows?

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But where are these and what do
they look like? And how in the

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world can so much of this be
opened but so many people and not one

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be discovered yet. So it would
be nice to have more information from tops,

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like is the code on the back? Difference? Do they look like?

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And I want to see what I
didn't see on that post the Reddit

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one was is the code different on
the back? Because you would think that

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something like this they would absolutely change
it up a little bit. Yeah,

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I don't think it's a code,
though everyone keeps going back to the code,

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the code, the code. I
don't think so because of their statement

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you just can't see it. If
it was as easy as a code,

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then But that also makes me think
that that one wasn't it, because that's

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pretty freaking obvious. Yeah, exactly, That's why I think it may have

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been some type of printing air or
something weird that happened to that one card,

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because, like you said, this
is a very blatantly obvious parallel the

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way one card that we've seen that
could possibly be it wait to Wait,

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to wait, to wait to Wait. Did I trigger a light bulb?

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You triggered a lightbulb because I actually
have I have something sitting here on my

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desk in one of these two piles
that goes back to twenty eleven Tops And

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if you remember that far back twenty
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I've the Austin Jackson sitting right here, has a little sparkle coming out

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of you see that coming out of
the jersey, and yeah, yes,

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this was the parallel variation. So
I'm wondering that I'm going to be pissed.

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But here's the thing. These were
very difficult to spot, if you

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right, So I'm wondering if it's
something like that where it may not be

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a it may not be like a
sparkle that pops out of it. And

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now they would have done better if
they had made the sparkle shiny um.

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Yeah, but it's very possible that's
somewhere in the background. Of the card.

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Yeah, like maybe like when like
holiday when they do the holiday variations

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and they're so that some of them
you can barely even notice. Well,

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but it could be a but it
could be a like an actual image,

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tiny little image of a diamond or
a ruby, an emerald or something like

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that. But it would be really
nice to know what the hell are we

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looking for? Exactly? Please?
Anything? Are we Is it a completely

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different design? What do they look
like? What are we looking for?

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Or here's even better? Are they
only available in certain variations of the product?

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Right? Are they only in hobby
boxes like you know oranges sometimes?

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Are you know twenty five? Are
they only are they only in you know,

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hobby and jumbo? Are they you
know? Are they in retail?

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What I mean? Where are these
cards? Where can people find them?

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Because I'll tell you. If somebody's
sitting there looking through them and all they've

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bought is retail and Tops comes out
and says, oh no, it's only

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a hobby in HTA, then well
you're gonna save a hell of a lot

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of people a hell of a lot
of time. Yeah, that you are,

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But seriously, tell us gotta tell
us something. It's it's crazy that

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not one of these has come to
light, and I it just blows my

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mind. Yeah, I don't,
I don't get it. But there's you

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know, there's a lot of people
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this product for various reasons, and
it would be really nice to be able

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to know what the hell they're looking
for. I'm gonna go back through a

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mine and just start peeling the tops
off all the basency. If one peels,

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I know, I know. Um, it's just I don't. I

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don't. I don't get it,
but I don't think it's appeeling. I

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don't know if it's appealing thing.
Yeah, but I won't. I will

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say when they finally do surface,
these are gonna be some insanely expensive cards.

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Um well, unless they finally tell
us what it is and all of

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a sudden they people realize is that, oh crap, No, they're not.

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They're not rare at all. They're
you know, they're they've been here

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the whole time, and all of
a sudden, fifty thousand of them are

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going to pop up overnight. Well, what I was told from some people

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that are doing research, and I
don't know if this was mentioned at the

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conference or not was that they are
supposed to be one in every like thirty

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eight thousand packs plus or something like
that. Now I don't know how accurate

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that is, and I don't know
if it was confirmed. I mean,

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obviously they've got to be insanely rare. But how with all of the product

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that is out there, none of
these have popped up and people figured it

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out? When people find the most
I mean, people find serial killers in

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the background of fifty year old cards. I mean, you know you I

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just it blows my mind. Well, let's just let's just take a look

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at you know, if you're if
you're thinking it's one in every thirty thousand

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packs, thirty eight one or thirty
eight thousand packs, all right, So

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the platinum and this is this is
the hobby pack odds, the platinum one

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of ones is one in every sixty
or sixty seven thousand packs. Yeah,

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so if it's on every thirty eight
thousand, they're they're slightly more available than

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the one of one base. Yeah. So if that's the case, we've

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seen plenty of one of one bases
that have popped up exactly Let's see where

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I mean, there should have been
at least several that have hit them up.

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That's my point, and hopefully,
hopefully we can figure this out and

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give you guys an update next week
on what they look like anything. I've

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messaged the people I know at Tops
with the image of the card that possibly

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is what the hidden gem is.
If so, it would disappointing and doesn't

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line up what you just can't see
it as you can blatantly see this,

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So I'm expecting them to say no
on that. But yeah, it would

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be nice if we had any idea
what we were looking for. But it

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is definitely I've never seen so much
craziness over Series one. Top stick phenomenal

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job with this product, because now
here we are a week later after we

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spent a long time talking about all
the great things they did going forward,

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now we've got something else driving this
product wild. It's well, this is

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incredible the amount of people or the
amount of time that people are gonna put

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into trying to figure out what this
is. If they keep releasing this cryptic

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crap like this, this is gonna
be the flagship version of the Ginter code,

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right, you know, I just
don't know. But without without the

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prize, yeah, without the prize, an unless unless you know, like

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there are only five total of like
five players and five hidden gyms, because

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you know that thirty eight thousand could
be not true. You know, Like

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I said, this is just from
someone that I trust that is digging deep

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into this, and that's a number
that they had come up with and that

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they had been told from some people
who were at the conference and all that

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stuff. So you know, we'll
see. But obviously, I mean,

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you would think the uncommon guys who
were you know, going through so much

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and all this stuff would have hit
multiple and I'm sure they probably got people

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right now going through all those trying
to figure out if it is something like

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the Sparkle, because that's something that
I thought of. Maybe it is bringing

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the Sparkle back as a tribute.
Who knows. It's very interesting to me,

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and I'm excited to see what they
are. But I love stuff like

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this, and you know, hey, I've never seen so much talk.

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I've never seen so much hype.
I've never seen so much excitement over series

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one in my life that didn't revolve
around let me get the best rookie,

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Like, yeah, there's so much
other stuff that's making this product cool and

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making this product fun to collect.
It's brilliant. Yeah, no, I

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would agree. Now I'm curious with
you know, with not knowing what this

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hidden Gems stuff looks like, especially
with that that cryptic comment. There's people

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that bulk sell all their bass cards, Yes, And I'm curious if people

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are not going to be doing that
until they announce what this is, or

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if people are, or if the
other hand is that you're going to see

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massive amounts of people buying bulk bass
and stocking away on the off chance that

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like, you know, hey,
they're gonna you know, they're gonna share

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what it is six months from now
and all of a sudden, I got

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twenty cases worth of bass cards to
sit there and look through. But either

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way, people are going to be
wasting a hell of a lot of time

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on this. Oh absolutely, And
I do think you're going to see a

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lot. At this point, you
have to stash your base. At this

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point, you have to stash every
single card you have. For all we

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know, it could be an insert
that then has a maybe it is a

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peel off. This dad has nothing
to do with the base. Maybe it

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has something to do with an insert. Who knows. We have no idea

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outside of a cryptic little comment uh
there there, you just can't see it.

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I mean, I don't know.
Maybe look, maybe it's something as

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Maybe it's something where like one of
the relic cards that are that are thicker

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has an actual diamond embedded in the
card somewhere and you have to peel apart

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the card to get to the diamond, a truly hidden gem. Yeah,

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something like that. You couldn't do
that with a bass card because it's too

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thin, But the commemorative relics and
things like that absolutely. Yeah, I

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just don't I don't know. Yeah, and yeah, the possibilities are endless.

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But please, guys, if you're
out there, if you find out

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what it is, please share it
with us, let us know, because

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I mean, this is something I'm
very interested in. I always love these

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these chases, these unknown and things
like that, and it brings a level

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of excitement to a product beyond just
opening the packs and the excitement of the

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hits. Well, some see excitement, some see madness. Yeah, you

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could call it both. Yeah,
you can, depends on how you look

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at it. You know, if
I if I had twenty five five thousand

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count boxes of bass cards to go
through, if it's something where it is

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like a sparkle or hidden in the
background or something like that, then that's

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you know, that's what it is. So but on that note, we're

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gonna be coming back with our guest
Kyle Stalzberg from Badger Brakes, talk about

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the Industry Conference. But we got
past some bills before you do that,

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so we will be back right after
this break. All right, guys,

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So everybody's been hearing a lot of
stuff that has been coming out of the

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TOPS conference. Yeah, it happened, you know, this this past week,

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and we decided that since we couldn't
go, you know, just like

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we did with the Industry Summit,
we had Terrence Wimberley on. We had

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a correspondent on the ground at the
TOPS conference. My buddy Kyle Staalzburg from

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Badger Breaks is joining us right now. You are back in Wisconsin right now,

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but you spent what was it three
days at the TOPS conference. Yeah,

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so Sunday Monday Tuesday was the conference. We want a little early,

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caught some spring training, and I
actually attended the Bowman Transcendent party after the

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conference as well, so we're there
for quite a bit. It was really

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cold there. It was like fifty
degrees, forty degrees at night cold,

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because you know, you know,
we're you know, I'm sitting here in

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Chicago, you're back home, and
you know in Wisconsin it's seventy in North

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Carolina, yeah exactly, And like
like they don't know, they don't know

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cold in the Phoenix there, they
don't know cold. Wasn't get down to

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like thirty five maybe maybe in the
winter. I did see some locals like

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bondled up in like snow suits,
like shivering, and I'm like, I'm

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sorry, I'm so sorry we brought
this weather to you guys in Meanwhile,

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meanwhile, it's like, you know, it could be like, you know,

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ten degrees and snowing outside and I'm
walking my dog in shorts. Yeah,

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welcome, not me, but welcome
to the Midwest people. All right.

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So we had there was a lot
of exciting news that that popped off.

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Let's just start off. What were
the things, the announcements and the

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you know, the things that you
learned that you were actually the most excited

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about because you have a you have
a different perspective than than Drew and I

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do. Um you own a shop. Yep, you're one of the largest

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breakers. Yeah, you know in
the in the country. Uh. And

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you know you're in obviously in the
hobby just like everybody else. So what

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was it that you were most excited
about hearing? UM? Honestly, it

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really was. I mean, I
guess the most exciting thing that that that

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I heard was just the organ It
seems like they're more organized with what products

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are working, what products are not, UM, getting their products into the

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hands of the right people to UM
you know, distribute those products. UM.

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I heard a lot of stuff from
different employees of TOPS. They seemed

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like they brought a lot more employees
UM from years past. This was the

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third year that I've been there,
and it was a lot different. It

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was a lot different. It seemed
more organized. The employees, There's tons

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of them there. They had information
for you, h after the you know,

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the discussions that we had, so
anything that you really wanted to ask,

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they had answers for you, which
is good. Now some of the

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things that we saw come out of
it. UM. There was a list

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of products that they are going to
be discontinuing yep UM. And I'll be

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honest with you, there's some products
on that list that I'm I'm not disappointed

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about going away. No, a
lot of need to go No, exactly.

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The one I was disappointed about,
it seems to be on everybody's list

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was Gypsy Queen. Yeah. That
that seems like the only product. I'm

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right there with you. That's the
only product that I was like, Oh,

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that that could have stayed. But
everything else I was like, get

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it out of here, you know. Yes, And it seems like they're

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trying new stuff as well. They're
getting away, they're getting away from some

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of the light products. They might
not be doing flagships with certain products like

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Formula one. Interesting, so they'd
be sticking they'd be sticking with chrome and

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higher up, the higher up Yeah, the higher up products. Ye with

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that. Interesting. That's actually something
I had not heard yet. Yeah.

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So there seemed like they're trying new
ways and you know, trying new stuff

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to have at work for the collector, which is that this is what it's

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all about, you know. Um. Also, you know, they they're

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introducing you know, higher end stuff, and it seems like they're getting ready

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to um change some stuff up for
when they get the basketball and football licenses

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as well. They asked us a
lot of questions what we want to see

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you know when you know, football
basketball stuff, come around and let me

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let me ask you what did you
tell them? Uh? We said,

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you know, dynasty basketball. Um, there's a lot of spitballing. Uh,

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I'm assuming, I'm assuming tops chrome
top tops chrome. Yeah, that

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was a given. Tops chrome was
a given. UH five star football coming

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back, Triple threads football coming back. Um, you know that was U.

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Now did they make because last year's
conference they made some announcements about limiting

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the number of UH director acounts and
distributors, you know, things like that.

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Did they did they talk about that
at all this year? They didn't

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really touch on that too much.
They did say, hey, you know,

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come up to us during the intermissions, you know, talk to us

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about your accounts, your store.
They definitely want a lot of information from

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you. They want to know how
much you're selling while you're selling, you

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know, which is good. You
know, they're doing their research. They're

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not just gonna give you know,
some random guy you know accounts. Um,

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you know, I guess that really
isn't into it. That doesn't have

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you know, a doesn't have a
store, doesn't it doesn't have skin in

409
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.559
the game. They want people that
have skin in the game. You know

410
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.519
that have stores. Um, they're
really big on social media right now,

411
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.319
you know, content creating, they're
you know, they they had a whole

412
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:55.079
you know, hour and a half
presentation about how to connect with your customers

413
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.839
the right way, um, and
then they took feedback from us on how

414
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.200
we want them to help us connect
with our customers and their customers. And

415
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.839
literally they setting up like a lot
of people said like, hey, this

416
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:14.640
reposting stuff that we post because they
really never done that tops reposting stuff.

417
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.759
Yeah, and then literally the next
day they had like ten things reposted from

418
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:26.680
different hobby shops across the United States. So so did they so in regards

419
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.759
to that, did they talk too
much about you know, Michael Rubin a

420
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:33.400
couple of right before the conference,
he had talked about how that they were

421
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.279
going to start really pushing marketing of
the hobby and how it had never been

422
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:41.359
marketed correctly. And you know,
then we were talking last week how you

423
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.279
started to see times square billboards things
like that. Did they talk did they

424
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:49.160
go in depth any on you know, some of the things that they might

425
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:53.319
be doing from a marketing perspective,
and you know, in growing the hobby.

426
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.880
They didn't go too much in depth
about that, but they did talk

427
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.160
about that a lot. And like
I said earlier, with you know,

428
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:06.880
the employees that they brought, you
could really see that they were they were

429
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:13.240
forcing that. Um they had content
creators that multiple you know, taking videos,

430
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.640
pictures. Uh. I mean,
I don't know how many roles you

431
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:22.799
know with you know, marketing and
you know social media type stuff that that's

432
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.680
that's above my h it's above my
head. But they seemed like they had

433
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.880
like twenty twenty people there just you
know, ready to get the word out.

434
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.200
You know. Seems like a lot
of online stuff is there that they

435
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.559
were pushing, but for like big
billboard stuff, they really didn't go too

436
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:44.799
much in depth about it. Sure
I also saw I also did see that

437
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:51.240
that they were talking about some new
new ways to connect with the actual customer

438
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:54.240
that they were going to be in
it, like I guess to put it

439
00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:00.200
there instead of redemptions, having extra
experiences and things like that coming to products.

440
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.839
Um. Could you expand on what
they kind of talked about in regards

441
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.839
to that, Yeah, so they
forget the exact product. I want to

442
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:14.319
say, maybe big league they're bringing
big League baseball back, um, and

443
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.519
they're getting rid of pro debut,
which is awesome. Wheeling in one of

444
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:22.440
those. Yeah, and uh so
I'm pretty sure it's Big League Baseball.

445
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:27.720
They'll have a card in there,
like say Mike Trout, so you pull

446
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:35.160
the Mic Trout card and it's a
social media card where he follows you back

447
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:40.480
on Instagram or whatever. So that's
a that's actually kind of cool. No,

448
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.680
Yeah, especially if the if the
athlete's gonna you know, also interact

449
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.880
with you and stuff too, which
it looks like they're trying to get the

450
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.519
athletes a lot more involved with the
lectures, which I think is really cool

451
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:59.839
because that I think that's a way
to really pull new people in as well,

452
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.960
but also provide the current hobbyous with
something they've never had before and something

453
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:10.679
we've never seen. Yes. Yeah, and they really made it a point

454
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.800
to give these players more incentives to
sign their cards, like make events,

455
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:22.280
you know, cool things for these
kids to do. Not all kids,

456
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.360
but a lot of these guys are
younger, and um, you know,

457
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.519
have them at events and you know, do cool things, get them on

458
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.719
socials, interact with the customers,
interact with the fans, and at the

459
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.920
same time, you know, they're
signing their cards. So it's not just

460
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:44.239
like here we're sending twenty thousand sticker
autos or twenty thousand cards to your door.

461
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.480
Just sign them, you know what
I mean. It's more personable,

462
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.840
and the players are learning about their
fans and you know, the businesses that

463
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.840
they're you know, engaging with.
And that's that's actually nice because I've seen

464
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:04.000
a lot of the the up and
coming baseball prospects really you know, kind

465
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.639
of run with the whole. Let's
get the fans and you know involved.

466
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.199
You know, guys that you know
are putting, you know, inscriptions on

467
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:16.360
the cards, guys interacting social media
guy Benny Montgomery shout out to the man,

468
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:22.360
Benny Montgomery. Jordan Lawler has been
you know, all over that as

469
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:28.119
well. There's that new guy was
a Jed something. Yes, there's an

470
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.639
ESPN article out on it where he
wrote high dad as an inscription and his

471
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:36.760
dad's looking for the card exactly.
Um, you know, and there's a

472
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.280
lot of there's I mean, and
you could tell these are guys that you

473
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:45.239
know, they grew up you know, either in or dabbling in the hobby.

474
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:50.599
I mean, he's he's both exactly. And actually, I mean even

475
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.840
Mike Trout has gotten into collecting.
Yeah, Mike Trout is definitely into collecting,

476
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:58.960
no doubt about that. He bought
a I won't go into details about

477
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:00.840
it, but he bought up home
in draft case from a friend of mine,

478
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:07.119
um before the event. I mean, and I guess hee Um dropped

479
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:08.639
it off or something. I don't
know exactly, but he bought up home

480
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:13.639
in draft case. So I mean
he's collecting, he's opening cars himself with

481
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.440
his kids. I'm assuming. Yeah. Well, I think when he first

482
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:22.039
there's a really funny story that's been
told and confirmed. But when he did

483
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.000
first start collecting, he was buying
on eBay under his real name and actually

484
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:29.199
and then the agent had to advise
him, Hey, but um, you

485
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:32.079
might not want to do that.
That's funny. Well, there's a I

486
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.679
mean, look, there's there's guys
that have been that have been players that

487
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:38.400
you know, have been involved.
Obviously, Phil Hughes is a you know,

488
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.400
it is kind of a big one, um, you know, but

489
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.760
there's there's been a couple that you
know that I've sold too and bought from

490
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:51.119
and stuff like that in the past, and it's a you know, it's

491
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:52.880
fun for them to kind of get
in uh yeah, you know, to

492
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.519
to do in that kind of stuff. Um, there's the guy the football

493
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.079
player that just retired to go sell
Pokemon cards. Yeah yeah, there you

494
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.000
go. Yeah, and it's you
know, a lot. So a lot

495
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.039
of these guys are getting in earlier
and it's good to see. But speaking

496
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:14.880
of early um, we also heard
that there was some announcements in regards to

497
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.480
NIL products that popped off at the
conference this week. Yep, um,

498
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:22.480
you know, can you add anything
you can expand on what they told you

499
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.039
aside from they're gonna be releasing more. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna be

500
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:31.039
releasing more. Uh, they're gonna
be releasing more. I can't touch too

501
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:37.559
much on it, um about what
products and when they're releasing. Um,

502
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:44.760
but they did say, you know, they did talk a lot about shops,

503
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:50.400
like getting athletes in there and how
to conduct that, uh, you

504
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.280
know, whether to work with agents
and not to work with agents, certain

505
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.320
price points, what to do,
what not to do. So that was

506
00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:00.039
that was very helpful. Um.
Okay, because Drew and I over the

507
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.719
last year have talked a lot about
the Bowman University product. Yes, and

508
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.559
both of us happened to love that
product. We think it's a great This

509
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:14.800
year UM football just came out and
a lot of them, a lot of

510
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:19.840
them have the team licenses, the
NC double a license card as opposed to

511
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:25.000
last year's which did not UM you
know, so I'm hoping the TOPS is

512
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.599
going to continue with that and and
kind of roll with it because that is

513
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.000
going to be you know, obviously
there's no prospecting in football. Yeah,

514
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.639
you know, that same thing really
with basketball too, because there's no minor

515
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.239
leagues you know for that. So
this is kind of the like, I'm

516
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.559
really hoping that you know, the
industry and the hobby really you know,

517
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:49.039
jumps on this and you know,
looks at the first Bowman cards out of

518
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.400
the Bowman University products at you know, the same way that they look at

519
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:57.239
the first Bowman cards for baseball.
Well that's actually that's actually kind of something

520
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.119
that I wanted to ask you about. Coming from conference. I've seen you

521
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.559
know a ton of people's posts where
they'll give you bullet points of what they

522
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.000
what they heard and everything. But
one thing that I was really curious about,

523
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.599
and you mentioned that they said that
they were bringing back you know,

524
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:16.119
five star football things like that.
Um with the licenses, about the transfer

525
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.119
here in a couple of years.
I mean it sounds sounds far away a

526
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.760
couple of years, but I mean
it's gonna go buy in an instant um

527
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:29.679
and they're gonna have these licenses.
Did they really talk any about the transition

528
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:34.199
how they plan on pushing into that. Are they gonna start putting out,

529
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.880
you know, more of those products, any unlicensed possibly before license? Did

530
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:42.440
they Did they mention any of that
at all in regards to how they are

531
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:49.280
gonna kind of segue into these new
new avenues. Not really. Um,

532
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:53.519
we had a product breakout session at
least during my session that as they had

533
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.440
like two or three different sessions.
The session that I was in as pretty

534
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:05.039
much as spitballing. I das um
for you know what they can do when

535
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.320
that time comes right. UM,
we're seeing like, you know, giving

536
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.320
them ideas for different products, you
know, for them to come out with,

537
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.440
um, you know, ideas like
I'm bowming you you know, certain

538
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.159
things to do to make it better. Which this year's product was great.

539
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.679
I like it, A lot of
people like it. It's selling in the

540
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.679
shop, selling online. But they
just you know, they always want to

541
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.239
make things better. Um, they
had a panel of like, like I

542
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:31.840
said, eight different guys in,
eight different guys in there, and it's

543
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:38.320
a lot of people you know on
their end listening to to us and they're

544
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:45.519
all taking notes, so they are
really listening, and uh that's a good

545
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.960
thing. So so yeah, no, it absolutely is. And so as

546
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.400
we mentioned, you know, and
I want to touch on this after we

547
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.719
talked about the conference, you own
a shop and also as we said,

548
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:01.239
you're you're breaking forever and one of
the bigger breakers. I know a lot

549
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:07.800
was talked about about their upcoming platform
that they're going to have for breaking,

550
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.280
and I know a lot of people
were saying, Oh, it's gonna be

551
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.400
Tops only you know they're gonna do
all that. There were all these doomsday

552
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:21.079
scenarios of how fanatics and tops we're
going to handle having their own um you

553
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.519
know, breaking platform or whatever it
is, and all of this similar to

554
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:29.519
a whatnot or a loop type of
deal. Did they prevent how much?

555
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.920
What did they kind of talk about
in regards to that, And as a

556
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:37.599
breaker, how did you feel hearing
what they had to say? Did you

557
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:44.559
come away looking at it with a
positive outlook or native Honestly, the whole

558
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.280
conference in the hall I looked at
as a positive, you know, everything

559
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.039
that they're doing to make the industry
better for the collector, um, you

560
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:58.159
know, for the hobby shop owners
and the breakers, but they really didn't

561
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:02.559
get too much into the Fanatics live, like who's gonna be on there,

562
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:07.239
how's how's it going to work and
all that, um. But I do

563
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.320
kind of think that it's going to
be exclusive, you know, you know

564
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:19.360
exclusive I guess deals with certain breakers
that are going to be on there,

565
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.559
and they're just not going to allow
you know, everybody on there, like

566
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:28.400
you know whatnot um kind and clears
out Walmart's not gonna be on there,

567
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:30.239
yes, correct, Yeah, Yeah, I don't think there'll be you know,

568
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:36.480
blaster box breaks and you know which, which I think. I think

569
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.639
it's great. Yeah. I think
it was interesting to hear that that,

570
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.719
uh, and I was hoping that
this was going to happen, that Panini

571
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:46.280
products will be allowed to be sold
on the platform, which is which well,

572
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:52.280
and I think I think they're doing
that because it's being branded as Fanatics,

573
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.239
not branded as Tops. Yes,
and you know, you can go

574
00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.679
to Fanatics as website and buy Panini
products. Yep, you know, you

575
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:05.360
know currently, so I don't see
why they wouldn't be able to do that.

576
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.239
But it was always my impression that
it was going to be in house

577
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:09.840
people at Fanatics, that we're going
to be doing all the breaking. I

578
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.360
didn't, you know, I didn't
realize it was going to be a platform

579
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.920
that you know, certain people like
Badger might be able to you know,

580
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:20.480
to pop on and break on there
as well. I was not aware of

581
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.880
that. Yeah, that's that's from
what they're saying. That's what I think

582
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.480
they're going to do. I mean, we're a little bit you know,

583
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.360
we're a little bit out from you
know, being live and everything happening.

584
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.039
It seemed like they really wanted a
lot of ideas, you know, they

585
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:39.039
wanted to hear what we had to
say too, which is good because my

586
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:45.000
my concern with it was if it
was only going to be internal, that

587
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:51.519
they would all they would immediately have
a massive advantage over every other breaker because

588
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:58.639
they would have unlimited access to any
at least of the tops products right now

589
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.119
that they wanted, and you know, in the future, obviously they would

590
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:07.360
have unlimited access to any of the
uh, you know, the other products

591
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:09.239
that you know, they pop out
whatever, you know, brand names they

592
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.079
put it under or if everything is
going to be undertime, whatever they wind

593
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.199
up doing once they get the additional
licenses, so that you know, that

594
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.760
could hurt you because you've only got
you have a limited allocation. You know,

595
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.480
then you have to rebuy on the
secondary market where the places go up

596
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:28.840
and you know, or sometimes occasionally
they go down. Depends on you know,

597
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.480
depends on how good the products selling. But you know that affects your

598
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:37.519
margins you're pricing. And you know, my my big fear is that they

599
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.119
were doing this and everything was gonna
internal and because of their access and their

600
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.159
pricing and things like that, that
you know, their goal was to put

601
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:51.400
all the other breakers out of business. Yeah, unless unless they flip the

602
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.480
script script on us. It seems
like they really want to work with the

603
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:01.000
you know, well established, you
know, well known reputable breakers and hobby

604
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:06.559
shops throughout this, throughout the whole
process. That seems like what they're what

605
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.760
it is what they're doing, and
it seems like they're going to keep doing

606
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:15.800
that. Now. One thing I
heard, and this directly will affect you

607
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:22.719
significantly being a breaker and owning a
store did I hear Did I hear this

608
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.559
correctly? That they're going to be
kind of changing up the allocation system to

609
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.880
where there's out for people that like
yourself to own both that are able to

610
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:37.679
get allocation for breaking and for the
store. Was that something that was brought

611
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.239
up because I was told the allocation
method was being switched up a little bit

612
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.639
in terms of breaking and sending to
the store and kind of splitting it up

613
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.320
so stores that have both, like
yourself, have products for the shelves and

614
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:55.840
for breaking. Yeah, yeah,
that is correct. So I think that

615
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.119
the store, you know, the
store format, I guess is kind of

616
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:06.159
like if you ever, it's almost
like dealing a distributor. You kind of

617
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:10.239
get what you can move or what
you put in for um. And it

618
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:17.519
seems like the breaking program is if
you can move say forty cases of Bowman

619
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:24.280
Draft, well, um, they're
probably gonna be able to supply you with

620
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:29.880
those forty cases if you can move
those cases on time, you know what

621
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:35.159
I mean? And you know efficiently
all that stuff professionally, you know,

622
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.000
yeah, and professionally is great.
I mean you have your breakers, you

623
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:44.559
know, Like I love watching Tyler
break. He was Yeah, the dude.

624
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.400
Dude's got a ton of personality.
I absolutely love the guy. And

625
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:50.639
there's a you know, and there's
other you know breakers, and I'm actually

626
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.639
to you know, with the platform, I actually like if they're gonna do

627
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:58.800
it where they're going to allow the
reputable, larger, you know, well

628
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.039
established breakers you know, come on
and break on that platform. It brings

629
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:07.559
that extra personality aspect, you know
to it. Um, you know,

630
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:09.719
your guys are great, you know. Then you got you know, guys

631
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:14.639
from like Platinum and uh Layton,
you know and things like that. Well,

632
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:17.239
sorry not platting those guys. Yeah, no, I mean, I

633
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:25.519
mean, but you guys and Monster
and Layton and um, you know the

634
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:30.440
guy Like you guys have a team
of people that have everybody's got a unique

635
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:35.679
personality, you know, that that
they bring when they when they're doing breaks.

636
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.679
And I love seeing the variety of
different, you know, different people

637
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.599
that are that are popping over on
you know and doing that kind of stuff.

638
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:47.400
Um, as long as they don't
allow backyard, then then I'm freaking

639
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:52.880
good because those guys, you know, they're not professional, they're you know,

640
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:58.840
a bunch of a bunch of freaking
clowns and leave them on what backyard

641
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.559
might be uh one of the one
of the bigger guys on there. Let's

642
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.599
just say, let's just say,
yeah, Well, I'm actually i'd be

643
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:08.199
shocked if they were if they were
willing to move off of whatnot or do

644
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:12.360
some things off of whatnot, because
they, you know, they have such

645
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.559
a such a huge market there,
and I think there's some marketing dollars that

646
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.800
whatnots you know, has put behind
anythings like that, Yeah, for sure.

647
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.800
But I mean there's there's a couple
of years you know here that that

648
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.000
a lot of things will happen and
shape up before Fanatics Collectibles fully takes over

649
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.039
all the licenses, you know.
The I think they get the MLB Players

650
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.440
Association this coming year, so I
don't think there'll be any more Panini Baseball

651
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:45.039
products. Um, I don't know
what they'll do, so which I'm I'm

652
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:52.760
not I'm not too sad about it. With the exception of National Treasures and

653
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.920
Flawless. I was about to say
those great, with the with their use

654
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.920
of the old school and yeah,
the historical stuff, Um, that's what

655
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:06.880
I'm gonna miss. And I'm really
I'm really hoping that at some point fanatics

656
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.639
will be able to get the intellectual
property from Panini, or least some of

657
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:20.639
it, because I would love to
see a fully licensed version of Ante and

658
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:22.840
Flawless, I think, you know, I think that would be an absolute

659
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:28.800
killer product. Yeah, um,
you know, and they would add into

660
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.320
you know, the lineup that you
know would be put out under the you

661
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:35.159
know, I don't know if they
change the branding to it or you know,

662
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:37.920
leave it as a top thing or
something like that, but they,

663
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.920
you know, I think they would. They would be well served to spend

664
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.079
the money if it becomes available,
yeah, you know, to buy up

665
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.840
that that ip. Yeah. I
think it's just a matter of time,

666
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.960
honestly, Yeah, I do too. And the longer, I mean,

667
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.360
the longer they wait, the cheaper
it's gonna get, because you know,

668
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:59.239
Panini is running out of time.
Yeah, that's so. I don't know

669
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.400
why they're I mean, I guess
they're trying to make as much as possible,

670
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:06.280
but that's a that's another story for
another day. From what I heard

671
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:10.079
to A couple of deals have fell
through, so I mean, who knows.

672
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:13.559
They could be in the talks right
now again, I mean right,

673
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.840
yeah, And that's that's cool.
So all right, so you went from

674
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:22.320
the convention to the Bowman Transcended party. Yeah, so let's let's talk about

675
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:23.840
that for a minute because we want
to know, like, I haven't seen

676
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.119
anything that's come out, you know, no picture, you know, nothing

677
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:30.000
that had been popped off. What
had I mean, what went on behind

678
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:37.800
the scenes at that party. Well, it was fifty degrees and raining all

679
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:43.719
day. So the party was so
supposed to so is that American Family Field

680
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:49.800
the Brewers spring training facility, And
it was supposed to be out on the

681
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.199
field, but like I said,
it was raining, it was cold.

682
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:55.719
So they had a you know audible
a little bit and it was kind of

683
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:01.280
put us in like the yeah,
like the the rotunda or whatever, right

684
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:05.960
when you walk in, right,
and uh, it was kind of small.

685
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.519
Then they had us, so they
had us in another room you know

686
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:14.320
where we're eating. You got the
Q and A with Kumar Rocker, George

687
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:19.079
Valera and Drew Jones. Um.
It was pretty personal though, you know,

688
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:21.880
we're all close, you know,
in the small their room, and

689
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:23.039
it was good. I guess it
was good. As a Brewers fan,

690
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:27.760
it is good for you. Um, yeah, it was supposed to.

691
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.440
You know those Cubs fans of us, right, you know, be like,

692
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.239
oh man, we it's like,
you know, I feel like you're

693
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.960
burst into flames walking into that field
or something. R It was it it

694
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:44.280
felt it felt like I was at
home with all the Brewers stuff around.

695
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:47.159
So that that was one of the
good things, I guess. So,

696
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.239
so it was just it was just
the the was a meet and greet,

697
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:53.639
the Q and you know Q and
A with the players. You get pictures,

698
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:58.440
yeah, sign they signed some stuff
for you, yep, yep.

699
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.039
So yeah, it was you know, Uh, they had like a little

700
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.360
thirty minute cocktail hour or whatever.
All the people that attended, which there

701
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.719
was one hundred tickets, not everybody
was there, so I would say there's

702
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:14.199
probably around seventy five eighty people.
Um. Then we sat down, Kumar

703
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.480
Rocker, George Valeria, Drew Jones
L came out, sat down, answered

704
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:23.760
questions, uh, Kevin with tops
uh. He also asked some questions,

705
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:29.599
and then they came out served as
dinner and then we had the meet and

706
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:34.440
greet. We got autographs from all
the guys and was he was the original

707
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.840
plan Like you guys can like bring
a ball in a mitt and you know,

708
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.159
throw around on the field and things
like that or was that not was

709
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:44.119
that not supposed to be part of
it? Um? I don't know,

710
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:46.039
honestly. Uh, they didn't.
They didn't tell us to bring a ball

711
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:50.519
in a mit, But I mean, who knows. I mean maybe they

712
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:52.519
would have let us hit some balls
out there. I have no idea because

713
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:57.960
I know in years passed that U
they had like a batting thing at Chase

714
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:04.159
Field at the last Tops Transcendent party
or whatever. So now knows well would

715
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.440
have happened if it was nice out
on the field. Yeah, And now

716
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:08.920
one thing I do want to ask
is, you know, we just talked

717
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:15.159
about how especially with the MLBPA and
that they announced, you know, that

718
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:19.360
they want to have a more close
and personal relationship with the collectors. Well

719
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.400
they had this party right after,
So how was the interaction with the players.

720
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.880
Because I've been to the Panini VIP
parties. I've been to a lot

721
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:32.440
of these parties in the past where
some of them the access was amazing,

722
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.199
like I shot baskets with d Brown, you know, and stuff like that,

723
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.199
and then there's been others where you
walk in, you get a quick

724
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:44.880
little photo and then you walk right
out and you don't get any interaction with

725
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.199
them as well. So how was
the actual interaction with everybody there. We

726
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:52.559
really didn't get like up in close, you know, to talk to them

727
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.719
at all, like shooting hoofs the
d Brown I was at that one as

728
00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:00.360
well. I remember I think Mo
Bamba was there too, right, yes,

729
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.840
yeah, yeah, um, but
uh yeah, we didn't really get

730
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.440
up and close, you know,
be able to make it really personal.

731
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.679
I mean, we took pictures with
them, you know, dapped them up

732
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:14.199
a little bit and we walked by. But the Q and A, I

733
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.320
mean that was took about an hour, so that was you know personal.

734
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:21.559
We're all in the same room as
a smaller room because they didn't plan for

735
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:23.199
it to be in that room.
They planned for it to be out on

736
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.719
the field. So what it did
feel kind of personal, but it wasn't

737
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:31.079
like hanging out with them or anything
like that. Yeah, you know,

738
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:35.840
but over over on all you overall
you mean you say you had a good

739
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:37.920
time at the party. Yeah,
yeah, it was. It was a

740
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.920
great time. It isn't my first
Transcendent party, um, and it was

741
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.639
probably the first one that tops had
to change a little bit because of the

742
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.760
weather. Um. So I mean
overall, I mean it was a good

743
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:55.800
party, I mean, and also
Bowman Transcendent is probably their second best transcendent

744
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:01.280
brand behind Tops. And also you
know the players, I mean, Dud

745
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:06.239
Jones is nineteen years old. Yeah, you got a room full of mostly

746
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.719
forty to fifty year old males or
twice as age. So you know,

747
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:13.559
it's a little bit of age disconnect, I would say. And I think

748
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.159
I think part of that is the
cost of the product. I mean you're

749
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:19.440
looking at what is it twenty five
grand or something like that for the Bowman

750
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:25.159
Yeah, Bowmen I think was like
seventeen to twenty somewhere aund there, So

751
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:28.280
a little bit, a little bit
less than the Tops. Yeah, a

752
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:30.920
little bit less than the Tops.
Yeah, okay, because like I know,

753
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:34.320
in the past, like you know, Derek Jeter has been, you

754
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.039
know, the the highlight of one
of the you know, Tops Transcended parties.

755
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.760
And yeah, yeah, so it's
a little I could see that with

756
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:44.639
a discrepancy. But you're also talking
about guys that you know, are you

757
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.239
know, they're either dropping twenty five
grand on a product and can afford to

758
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:52.079
do that, or they're buying the
ticket on the secondary market for you know

759
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:57.000
what, three to eight thousand,
depending on who the guest is. Yeah,

760
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.280
so it's a little bit, you
know, a little bit different.

761
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:07.039
Yeah. I think the tickets to
this transcendent uh party, I think they're

762
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:12.519
going around two to three thousand dollars
depending. I think three thousand out the

763
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.440
gate. And then it kind of, you know, cooled off a little

764
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.519
bit as you got closer to the
party actually happening. Yeah, no,

765
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:23.400
that makes sense. Yeah, all
right, So let's talk about the shop.

766
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:30.239
Let's talk about you know, the
breaking uh you know, let's talk

767
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:32.760
about stuff like what's what you got
coming up? What is exciting going on?

768
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.039
So the shop I was up there
shortly before you guys opened. Yeah,

769
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:40.960
you guys have been open about a
year. Uh, pretty close to

770
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.840
a year, almost a year.
Um, how's that been going for you?

771
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.480
Um? And I'm asking, I
know the answer to this, Oh

772
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.119
yeah, I got that. And
then, um, you know, what

773
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:54.159
do we got coming up? You
know, breaking wise, that is gonna

774
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:59.440
be you know, something cool,
um, something different, you know,

775
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:01.719
kind of kind of going into that. So what do we got? Yeah?

776
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:06.599
So the shopman we opened late April
last year, and this every month

777
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:10.360
we keep getting busier and busier,
which is awesome. We had to hire

778
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:15.960
another person to help out in the
store. Breaking wise, we're still this

779
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:21.480
breaking NonStop, all the new releases. We got Bowman inception today. I'm

780
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.039
actually gonna be going to the shop
here in a little bit to break some

781
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:28.440
of that. Got tons of football
stuff that's coming up, Immaculate football.

782
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:31.840
What else we got Prism Football's coming
up, Honors football. Do not sleep

783
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:37.000
on Honors football. That's gonna be
great. We'll have all that stuff in

784
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:42.320
our shop and our website, Badger
breaks dot com. We break every on

785
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.639
release days at noon all the newest
products, and we're usually breaking every day

786
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:50.800
almost until one am. So if
you want to get into breaks, you

787
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.239
know, we got you. Yeah, man, definitely have tons of them.

788
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:58.079
M Where is just for everyone listening
that may not be familiar, where's

789
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.519
the shop located and everything like that? Yep. So we are in on

790
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:06.280
Alaska, Wisconsin, right on the
Mississippi River, right next to Lacrosse,

791
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:09.800
Wisconsin, which some of the listeners
might know a Lacrosse, Wisconsin. We're

792
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:17.679
kind of famous for october Fest and
our downtown nightlife and your your shop is

793
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.719
conveniently located. If you happen to
own a private plane or a private jet

794
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.440
to the Lacrosse Airport, which is, you know, kind of just behind

795
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.639
the building. Yeah. Yeah,
Yeah, the airport's not too far away.

796
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:34.840
It's not too big though, but
there are a couple of flights going

797
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:39.400
in every day, especially from Chicago. Yeah. And then speaking of Chicago,

798
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:44.559
you were also going to be set
up at the show coming up here

799
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:49.400
on seventeen, eighteenth and nineteenth in
Rosemonts. Yes, that correct, Yes,

800
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:52.320
yes, we will be at the
spectacular. We'll bring a bunch of

801
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:57.760
our you know, high end cards. We'll have some cool promotions going on

802
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.079
while we're there. So definitely if
you're in the Chicago area. Was it

803
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:05.840
the sixteen, seventeenth and eighteen seventeen? I think it's the seventeenth, eighteenth

804
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:09.639
and nineteen seventeen. Eighteen sixteenth is
when set up starts. Okay, so

805
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:13.880
I will see you on the sixteenth, Yeah, but you will see everybody

806
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:16.920
else on the seventeenth, eighteen nineteenth. And um, like you and I

807
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:21.199
had talked about a couple weeks ago. Um, you're also bringing wax.

808
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:27.039
Yes, we'll be bringing tons of
wax. Um higher end singles. Uh,

809
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.360
Like I said, promotions, fun
stuff to do for the kids to

810
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.639
get engaged, you know, coupons
for a website, and you know,

811
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:37.440
just a bunch of stuff, you
know, for the people, you know,

812
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.079
having a fun time coming to that
show, and uh yeah, it's

813
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:44.519
just gonna be a great time.
And you know, being able to talk

814
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.840
to you know, our customers,
you know, our collectors because you know,

815
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.000
I don't like to call everybody you
know customers too, Like a lot

816
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.760
of these people are my friends,
so you know, collectors, customers,

817
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:58.280
you know, however you want to
word it, I guess, but uh

818
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:02.280
yeah, we're really excited to be
at that show. Awesome. Well,

819
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:08.039
we greatly appreciate you coming on and
giving us some inside scoop from some people

820
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:13.360
that were there, from someone that
was actually there at the conference today,

821
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:16.719
I really appreciate it. For all
of our listeners out there, if they

822
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:21.400
are interested in Badger of Breaks and
everything, would like to possibly get into

823
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.559
it, or would like to hit
you up on socials or anything, how

824
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:28.119
would they do that. We're all
over the place. We're on Instagram,

825
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:35.760
TikTok, Facebook, just you know, Badger breaks across all platforms. We're

826
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:39.599
on Twitter a little bit too.
But our main places where you'll find us

827
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:44.800
as Facebook. Our Facebook group has
ten thousand members in it. We feel

828
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:50.159
breaks in there, and on our
website Instagram, Like I said, TikTok,

829
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.239
I mean, there's so many of
these days, but Instagram is you

830
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:57.159
know, it's our main thing.
I guess, TikTok. We're on them

831
01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:00.800
all. Awesome. So thanks for
coming on, Kyle. Yeah, thank

832
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:02.159
you for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah, I will see you in

833
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:07.239
person in a couple of weeks,
and I'll see you at the Nashville Yeah,

834
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:08.880
We'll see you. I'll be there
too, We'll be there too.

835
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:13.960
Yeah. Well, thanks for coming
on, man, greatly appreciated. Yeah,

836
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:15.800
thank you guys. Appreciate you having
me and look forward to you know,

837
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:21.159
being on another show at some time
again. Absolutely, yep, awesome,

838
01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:24.920
Thank you guys, And once again
i'd like to thank Kyle for coming

839
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:29.679
on this show. Man. It's
always nice when we can have somebody,

840
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.760
especially someone who's awesome as Kyle and
Bagger breaks come on, that was there

841
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:36.960
at the at the conference, you
know, oh yeah, absolutely, And

842
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.079
I you know, I know,
you know, we've been you know,

843
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.880
klled you know, been talking about
having Kyle on for a while now and

844
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:45.039
oh yeah, you know, this
is a this is a great way to

845
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.880
make that happen. Yeah, and
you know, and guys, there was

846
01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:51.400
and you know, guys, there
was a lot of other news, a

847
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.639
couple of pointers that I did want
to touch on and kind of get your

848
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:58.559
reaction on as well. Um,
there there was so much stuff that came

849
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:00.559
out of it. There's no way
to cover everything. But two things that

850
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:06.840
stood out to me, and it
revolves up around autographs, were one that

851
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.760
Tom Brady is going to be in
Bowman with autographs. They're gonna have him

852
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:16.000
in his exposed gear and have it
have Tom Brady and Bowman. And also

853
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:23.320
we're gonna get with the nil We're
gonna get Brawny James tops all American autographs.

854
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:27.960
Those are two things that you know, I didn't get a chance to

855
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:32.239
bring up in an interview, But
that's freaking awesome. I mean, it's

856
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.960
the Brady thing is awesome. I
think I'm really excited about that. Oh

857
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:42.599
that, yes, absolutely, I
don't know how excited I am about the

858
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:49.760
Brownie James you know thing. Really
Yeah, I have a problem sometimes with

859
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:58.239
the children of really good athletes,
you know, I mean, yeah,

860
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.360
I know where you're going with that. But he is a projected top ten

861
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:05.719
pick. He's a projected top ten
pick. But I mean, how many

862
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:08.559
projected top ten picks just haven't panned
out in the you know, in the

863
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:13.360
league Son, regardless of that,
But like I'm looking at you know,

864
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:16.599
Michael and Jeffrey Jordan, who you
know, turned out to be nothing from

865
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:20.239
bad. They're great guys. Look, I've known I've known those two since

866
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:23.800
they were little kids, you know, you know, coming in while Juanita

867
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:28.960
was working with medias and stuff.
But the um like, they're great,

868
01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:32.679
great people, but they're they're not
their father when it comes to basketball.

869
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:37.119
Jared Payton, Uh, you know, same thing. He's not Walter.

870
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:42.400
You know, I'm I'm having a
hard time thinking that the brawnie James autos

871
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:50.239
are gonna be hugely meaningful. I
don't think meaningful in the long run because

872
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:52.000
obviously, like I said, he's
gonna be a top ten pick, He's

873
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.559
gonna have plenty of autographs in the
future. I just think, you know,

874
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:00.519
it's a neat use of being I
l and hey, it it shines

875
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:02.559
a light on some of this stuff, which I really do think. And

876
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:08.960
I'll keep talking about it as it
comes to fruition, the nil market,

877
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:13.320
the college market, the over in
basketball, you can't even really call it

878
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:19.079
the college market because the first college
player isn't projected to pick five. It's

879
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:24.599
all overseas. So the international market
and all that that's something, and that's

880
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:30.079
a area of the hobby that I
see exponential growth in in the next five

881
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.320
years. And so something like that
is in my opinion, going to do

882
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:39.519
a lot to move that forward.
So while they might not have a massive

883
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:44.159
amount of value long term in terms
of his cards, I think it does

884
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:48.480
do a lot for the upcoming you
know, prospecting market. Like we're talking

885
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:53.719
about getting people to look at the
Bowmans and all that stuff. So any

886
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:58.000
attention and good stuff you can put
in any of those products, I think

887
01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:00.119
is going to help that happen on
I agree, And it's only frankly,

888
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.000
it's only a matter of time before
somebody comes out with a multi sport and

889
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:09.159
il product because there are so many, so many of these athletes in high

890
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.760
school and college and things like that
in other sports besides the major ones,

891
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:15.920
besides you know, your your basketball, your football, you know, things

892
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:20.519
like that that really could drive a
product. I mean, there's some amazing

893
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:24.960
golfers that are that are out there
that that could be part of that.

894
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:30.559
Obviously, what's her name, the
Olivia or Olympia Dune from LSU. You

895
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:32.800
know, obviously she's she's huge.
The you know, the hobby I think

896
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:36.719
would be taking care of really well
by having a product like that that it

897
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:41.559
is a you know, like a
multi sport and I l as opposed to

898
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.480
just focusing on you know, one
short for basketball or something like that.

899
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:48.719
Yeah, So a couple other things
guys that did come out, just some

900
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:53.960
little bullet points for you if you
are interested. And then one thing I

901
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:58.159
do want to get your opinion on
because it's hilarious to me. But there

902
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:02.400
is gonna be multiple news Our Wars
releases, at least ten. We're also

903
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:08.960
getting Tops Chrome Tennis. It is
coming finally. Yes, Tops Chrome Tennis

904
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:13.239
is coming this year. They confirm
that. Noah, wait, is it

905
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:15.440
the twenty twenty two edition or are
they just redoing it for twenty twenty three.

906
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.840
No, it's it's a new one
and they said it's going to be

907
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:24.480
followed by an even bigger release next
year. So it looks like next year

908
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:28.880
we might get Tops Chrome, Tennis
and another one, so it does like

909
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:32.599
the tennis market just coming out as
well. And from the non sports side

910
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:39.760
of things, Dune is coming in
when the Dune movie comes out, there

911
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:45.960
will actually be Dune cards. Naruto
Chrome is coming in October, and then

912
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.239
on the sports card aspect, a
really cool a couple of things from There's

913
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:54.039
something I think is really cool,
you know, a debut and update this

914
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:59.960
year. But it's called First Stitch. It's patch cards at the very first

915
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:04.719
first jersey Fanatics creates for a new
player, and these are gonna be patches

916
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:10.400
in update. I thought that was
pretty cool. Well, I'm torn on

917
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:14.079
that because of how they do it. Is it gonna be patches from the

918
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:18.760
first unif first jersey that the player
ever wore, or is it the first

919
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:24.440
one that Fanatics just created and now
all of a sudden it's like a like

920
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:28.920
there's no tie to the player at
all. It's not even like event right

921
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:30.400
right. That's what it's going to
come down too, is if it's the

922
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:34.559
first one they created that they use
or is it just the first one that

923
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:39.039
they make. So well, yeah, we'll save if that's a good thing

924
01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:43.039
or a bad thing for later.
But this is one I want to get

925
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.679
your opinion on. And now we'll
wrap up the TOPS conference with this.

926
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:53.119
They announced, and this is baffling
to me. They're going to be frozen

927
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:57.239
fractors coming out. Now. You
say to yourself, what is this?

928
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:01.599
Well, if serial numbering couldn't get
stupid enough, we are now going to

929
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:08.880
have cards numbered out of zero,
and these cards will be numbered out of

930
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:18.039
zero and negative one through negative five. So I have mixed emotions about this

931
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:23.039
one because I've been saying for a
long time that they need to have like

932
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:29.640
certain cards. You can't possibly have
a card for that player numbered to their

933
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.640
jersey number, right, And this
is more prevalent in basketball. But there

934
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:39.239
is one player in baseball, It's
Marta Stroman, who wears the number zero.

935
01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:44.039
Right. But let's talk about it
as it relates to basketball for a

936
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:47.720
moment, because you see that more
often one of the biggest stars in the

937
01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:55.239
NBA right now wears number zero,
as Jason Tay. You cannot have like

938
01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.920
the contenders, they have the die
cut rookie autos that are numbered to each

939
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:05.399
player's jersey number. You can't you
could, You couldn't have a Tatum.

940
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:11.560
You couldn't have a Kobe White and
who also wears zero, because we can

941
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:15.000
deal with that though. Yeah,
well no, but okay, I understand

942
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:18.319
White Tatum. So if they if
he was a rookie this year, they

943
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:21.880
you know, how would you handle
that, right number? You have just

944
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:26.840
one of them, but you number
it zero of zero? Yeah, I

945
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.640
understand. It's just in I thought
it was funny. Um, I thought

946
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.840
it was interesting. I mean with
maybe this, look, maybe this is

947
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:39.560
just a prank, Maybe this is
just maybe I was thinking of making them

948
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:45.600
making fun of some of the numbering
errors that they've had over last They had

949
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.199
plenty of those. But that was
very real because they announced it that they're

950
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:54.199
also doing retro fractors and these are
going to be first Bowman cards for historical

951
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:59.640
players who never had one, like
Bay Bruce. That's cool. I love

952
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.640
that. That's a great that's a
great idea. Yes, that is gonna

953
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:05.920
be coming out, so we'll have
a Babe Ruth first Bowman and things like

954
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:11.199
that. Jackie Robinson, I'm sure, and all Ricky Henderson people like that

955
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:15.880
that didn't get a first Retro fractors
will be coming, but frozen fractors,

956
01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:20.680
I don't know. It seems a
little gimmicky to me, obviously. I

957
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:25.439
think in the long run it's just
gonna be looked at as a card out

958
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:29.199
of five because they said it,
we're going to be negative one to naked

959
01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:32.479
at five. So it's really not
that big of a deal. But I

960
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:36.520
just find it funny. And I
thought that was the funniest thing I saw

961
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:40.840
come out of this conference. All
right, so I give them points for

962
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:45.960
creativity. I yes, yes,
absolutely, whoever thought this up, definitely

963
01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:53.600
they had their thinking cap on and
is getting points for creativity. But the

964
01:10:53.920 --> 01:11:02.560
practicality of exactly is something that I
don't know. I I completely. I

965
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:10.560
only have one question, and that's
how many pounds of weed did it take

966
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:15.000
to come up with that idea?
I know, yeah, because you know

967
01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:19.359
the answer. And maybe when maybe
when it got cold in Texas, uh,

968
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:23.760
and everyone in Texas was having that
big cold front, someone just had

969
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:27.640
an idea and was like, wait
a minute, I'm freezing here we are,

970
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:31.279
and then that that could be it. But we're definitely involved. I

971
01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:38.520
think I think people were, Yeah, maybe they were dropping ascid. I

972
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:42.479
don't know. That sounds like something
that would you know, that's right along

973
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:45.399
the lines of doc Ellis' is no
hitter in the story behind. Yeah.

974
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:50.680
Yeah, but you know, I
think there were there was some narcotic that

975
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:59.880
was Maybeawaska session. Well, I
mean they are getting back into football.

976
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:06.279
Maybe the head Aaron Rodgers in and
this is what came out. Um yeah,

977
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:10.399
I don't know. We'll see how
We'll see how it plays out,

978
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:14.279
you know, when they actually get
released. The historic historical bowman first absolutely

979
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:17.319
killer idea great knock it out of
the park with that one. Yeah,

980
01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:21.399
um, but it actually CV.
I mean some of the guys that are

981
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:26.119
still alive, you know, you
can you can get like Barry Bonds never

982
01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:30.319
had a first bowman. You can
get on card autos right of a first

983
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:35.640
bowman. For these are exciting.
Nolan was one of the coolest things I

984
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:41.439
heard from the conference in terms of
stuff that's going to be on cards.

985
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:46.600
You know what, you can get
a Nolan Ryan first bowman on card auto.

986
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:51.399
That would be cool. That automatically
creates one of the most in demand

987
01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:56.279
Nolan Ryan cards of all time exactly, even though it's not technically a rookie,

988
01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:59.239
it's still at would be a cool
piece. And I have no idea

989
01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:02.000
if Nolan Ryan's to be in there, right, assume they are probably gonna

990
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:04.560
make a card of you know,
a first Bomban retro card of him,

991
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:10.119
and that's yeah, you kind of
have to. But I'm just I'm just

992
01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:12.960
thinking back of guys that are,
you know, the guys from that era

993
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:16.960
that are still alive that could potentially
have an on card signature. I don't

994
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.079
think Derek Jeter had a first Bomban
Nope. And you know, you know,

995
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:25.000
he's a top athlete, So you'll
see a Derek Jeter first bowman on

996
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.199
card auto potentially that would be that
would be awesome, that would be a

997
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:33.359
massively in demand card. Yeah,
so I completely agree. So yeah,

998
01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:40.199
I personally, after even though not
attending the conference, after hearing everything from

999
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:44.600
Kyle and all the stuff that I've
read and the other people I've spoken to,

1000
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:48.079
I come away and I want to
know how you feel before wrap up

1001
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:55.279
today's show. I really feel very
confident, a lot more confident in tops

1002
01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:59.439
and fanatics than I did a week
ago, not just from the conference,

1003
01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:05.239
but I'm also bringing in some very
new high profile executives. Someone that was

1004
01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:11.800
noticeably absent from the conference was mister
Josh Luber. He had absolutely no presence

1005
01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:15.720
there as his contract comes up.
Coincidentally, what's up, Loops. But

1006
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:23.199
they're bringing in some high profile people
outside of the hobby that they're bringing into

1007
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:27.159
the hobby to kind of bridge that
gap with athletes. Lots of big stuff,

1008
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:31.520
and so I'm really I have so
much more faith in this and have

1009
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:39.119
come away from this with so much
more positivity than I expected. So I

1010
01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:45.119
don't have any more faith than I
did before that Fanatics was going to be

1011
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:48.039
able to you know, really make
this work improve wrong because I had a

1012
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:53.920
high level of faith prior to this
conference. I did. The thing that

1013
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:57.319
I'm the thing that I am excited
about. It is not necessarily the new

1014
01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:00.640
products, the new ideas, things
like that. It's the it's the you

1015
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:05.960
know, the fact that they're taking
the efforts to bridge that gap between the

1016
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:11.840
athletes and the collectors. Yes,
you know, that's that's going to be

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01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:15.359
a huge step. And that that
right there is probably the biggest piece of

1018
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:17.720
news that I have, you know, that I think has come out of

1019
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:21.119
this. Yeah, and outside of
just the social media stuff, I did

1020
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:27.520
see that there were also going to
be in Lewis Redemptions um like experiences with

1021
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.279
athletes we're going to fly you out
to do certain things. They're supposed to

1022
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:34.960
be a lot of new type of
interactions and stuff like that. So I'm

1023
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:41.159
right there with you. The incorporation
of the athletes and the closer you can

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01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:45.079
get the collector to the person that's
on that card, the physical, actual

1025
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:50.479
person that's on that card, the
better the collector experience. And that's the

1026
01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:57.039
infrastructure that Fanatics has and that they
can bring to collecting that I think is

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01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:00.600
really going to serve the hobby.
Well, if you yeah, now here's

1028
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:04.119
here's something that I would have done
if I was Fanatics for especially with Bowman.

1029
01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:10.600
So if you were to take all
of the super Fractor autos, the

1030
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:15.119
first Bowman super Fractor autos, and
instead of putting the cards in there,

1031
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.640
you put it and I know you
everybody's gonna hate the fact that I'm talking

1032
01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:25.319
about redemptions, but you take you
make all of the super Fractors redemptions,

1033
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:30.159
okay, And part of that redemption
when you redeem it is they will fly

1034
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:38.279
you out to the watch athletes and
you get to watch them sign the super

1035
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:41.239
Fractor for you, well you know, it's really funny, and then hand

1036
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:45.239
it to you you know, it's
really funny. What you just said is

1037
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.279
actually something that they talked about,
having them doing the flying out stuff,

1038
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:54.000
flying out athletes to have them sign
cards and things like that. So that's

1039
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:57.039
actually so well, have them have
them fly I have them signed cards.

1040
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:00.319
But if you were to do it
with every with every one of the superfractors,

1041
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.359
that would be cool. I just
don't know if the practicality of that

1042
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:09.880
with a lot of collectors that wouldn't
a want to take the flight be couldn't

1043
01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:12.439
take the flight things like that.
You know, well, but if tops

1044
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.760
is paying for it, that would
eliminate the financial aspect of somebody like not

1045
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:18.119
being able to afford to take,
you know, take a flight. Well

1046
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:20.520
no, I didn't mean the plane. I mean everything else that goes along

1047
01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:21.920
with it. No, no,
no, no, no no, yeah

1048
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:25.199
no, no, I get that
too. Um, but maybe not do

1049
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.119
it with all, maybe do it
with like ten right, yes, no,

1050
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:32.159
I agree and it But the one
good thing is is you can tell

1051
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:39.439
from everything that Kyle said and everything
I've seen online that they are truly listening

1052
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:45.720
to everybody, and they there is
finally, finally, maybe maybe it will

1053
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:49.000
trickle down to the actual card designs, but it seems like there's a lot

1054
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:55.840
of innovation going on right now.
Yeah, I would agree, So I

1055
01:17:56.520 --> 01:18:00.439
love it. I think it's awesome. But you know, Scott, there

1056
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:02.560
was a lot we covered today.
I think this is probably a good time

1057
01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:05.640
to wrap it up. What do
you think I would agree with that as

1058
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:10.720
well. And guys, I know
we didn't touch on everything going on in

1059
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:14.960
the hobby. There's no way we
could right now. It is just NonStop.

1060
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:18.159
But of course we'll back next week
with tons and tons more. But

1061
01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:21.960
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1064
01:18:31.439 --> 01:18:35.159
week. We are a great box, soope, and I'm really excited about

1065
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:40.840
that. Of course, Hobby Hotlines
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1066
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:45.880
Saturday mornings Saturdays on Pagecoat Media.
And if you miss the announcement I will

1067
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:50.119
be doing. I will be writing. I'll make the announcement here. The

1068
01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:56.079
brand new Hobby News daily website to
launches April first. I will be the

1069
01:18:56.319 --> 01:19:01.159
football basically doing modern football and I'll
be having a couple of articles a month

1070
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:06.760
out on Hobby News Daily covering modern
football products things like that. So a

1071
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:10.880
lot of cool stuff coming up in
the future and a lot of cool stuff

1072
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:15.239
coming up on Let me get that
photograph. But Scott Man and Dog a

1073
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.279
great episode, Absolutely the same as
always true. Well, you guys know

1074
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:23.039
the deal. Keep ripping those packs, pulling those hits. What taught you

1075
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:24.039
next week, please,