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Welcome, Friends and st Podcasts podcasting
show Jackie and Bryan. They're talking about

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the movie's moving now boast, Welcome
to a movie film commentary track. My

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name is Zachie Hassan and I'm here
with Brian Hall. Don't you mean Spaceballs

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the commentary? Ah, that's better
merchandizing. Merchandizing exactly. Oh man,

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I'm excited. I'm excited to go
through Spaceballs with you. This is this

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is one of those sort of like
staples right for the two of us growing

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up, and so I'm excited to
just kind of kick back and chat our

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way through it. This has been
one of our most requested commentary tracks,

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so I'm happy to fulfill the requests
of those one point five people who have

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requested that our most requested. But
I'm excited any chance to revisit this movie.

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And if I'm not mistaken, this
is the first time that you and

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I are watching this together. Yeah, huh, I hadn't thought about that,

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but yeah, this was like a
sleepover staple growing up. You know.

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It's like, in sort a sort
of a weird way, I feel

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like I share a bond with this
movie with everyone. Well, we are

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about to watch Spaceballs. There is
only one cut, but if you want

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to watch along with us, you
can go ahead and get that queued up

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while we take a short portion right
now, and we're back and we're ready

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to go. Brian, you queued
up? I'm allcuted up, all right?

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So we will hit play on three, and like I said, if

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you want to watch along with us, you can. If not, hopefully

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we'll keep it engaging enough to hold
your interest. So one, two,

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three, play, all right?
So how about that lion, Brian?

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Love it? So Spaceballs is owned
by Amazon? Now right? What that

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means? Right? Which? I
mean? That's the thing right these days,

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everything eventually gets to be owned by
everyone at some point, right,

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just we're all being batted around by
massive mega corporations. Everything eventually exchanges hands

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until it will all be owned by
one giant corporation something something dystopian called glub.

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I manage glub, All hail Glub. I want a T shirt.

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I want a movie film T shirt
called all hail globe. Like that'll be

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our like, like the lingo of
our listeners. You know what I mean?

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Yes, exactly right? I love
that. So are you hearing this

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music in your head? As we're
watching this on mute. Oh absolutely,

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sort of Star Wars Marchie but with
like lasers like boo give I love this.

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I have the soundtrack. I listened
to it all the time. Yeah,

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it say it's a good score.
The theme is a bit of an

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earworm in my opinion. Totally,
totally. I you know, I kind

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of I appreciate this mixture, the
combination here with the text. At the

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beginning, you have like the blue
letters from Star Wars is you know,

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a long time ago in a galaxy
far far away, but they have used

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it for the crawl, right,
which was yellow in Star Wars. And

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I mean, look, when you're
like eight years old and watching this and

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the crawl ends with if you can
read this, you don't need glasses.

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That is the height of comedy,
really, right, It's it's this movie.

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It's funny because because yeah, we
were both roughly the same age when

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we first saw it, and it
was it was not only the height of

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comedy. I don't know about you, but like it was a little risk

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a Yeah, you're so right.
I kind of forgot about that angle of

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it because it feels so tame now. But you're so now it's just good,

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wholesome fun. But I remember back
then, you know, like when

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when he's looking at his butt,
he's like, I'm not told. How

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come no one told me my ass
was so big? Like woo yeah,

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so shoddy? Yeah, I mean
this is like this was like peak Sleepover

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movie and you're so right, like
because it's it's material that we are interested

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in, and it's like a funny
probably the first parody I ever saw,

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and so getting to see a thing
I love like riffed on was probably novel.

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And then like you said, there's
enough like t he kind of humor

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to it that feels like, whoa, it's late at night, we're watching

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this, you know now Now the
title and originally this movie was supposed to

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be called Planet Moron, right right, which cooler has prevailed. Mel Brooks

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was famously he said it had to
have the word space in the title,

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and and he was racking his brain. I guess they had like a you

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know, probably in the writer's room
and he spilled something and he goes balls

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and then somebody says, how about
space balls? Yep, yep, that's

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it. If they were to make
like the biopic of this, you know,

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I'd be like, wait, say
that again. I said balls space

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balls. Yeah, and that's that's
how we got the and and it is.

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It's a nonsense title. It makes
no sense. I remember that as

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a kid being like, what is
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sort of t he humor of it
all. It just sounds t he issue,

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you know what I mean. But
but it did come into play with

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the aesthetic of the movie. I
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You know they're balls. They are
big giant balls. That is true.

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Yeah, which, by the way, before it passes, we have to

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comment on the ship passing overhead,
which is hilarious, right, I mean,

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like as a kid again, like
it keeps going, the ship is

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still going. Was absolutely hilarious.
And it looks great. It looks like

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something out of Alien or Star Wars
or something. Well the special effects or

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by ILM. So George Lucas's own
people did it, which I think was

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a smart play on the part of
mel Brooks, who he got George Lucas's

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permission before making this movie, just
to make sure he was okay with its

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Wise, Yeah, it kind of
the weird owl approach, right, Yeah,

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why not be in good graces weird
Awl for those of who don't know,

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he unless the subject of his parody
is okay with the parody, he

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doesn't go ahead with it. And
I think I don't know there's like one

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or two people who turned him down, right we're now, yeah, And

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I I feel like I knew that
about him, but I think most people

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learned that that facet of him asking
people due to Lady Gaga, right like

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where he was like, oh yeah, Lady Gaga was one of the few

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people recently who's kind of turned me
down. And and then she was like,

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no, I didn't like that,
just never got to me. She's

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like, I'd love you to do
that, and he's like, oh great.

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And so then there are all these
sort of like Yahoo articles and whatever

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explaining how weird All operates and yeah, it's tasteful or classy, classy there,

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Yeah, you went over my helmet. Yes, that's so funny.

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Now I have to admit, like
watching this the first time, I don't

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think I got the humor of the
ray beam like shooting in the balls,

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oh you know what I mean,
Like like it was like, oh,

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I guess he like it hurts,
like you know what I mean, I

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didn't have that awareness of like,
no, that really hurts to get hit

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in the balls. I think,
I don't know if I knew that exactly.

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I just knew like the balls were
funny. Yeah, you know,

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like he's grabbing his garage like,
you know, I think the whole idea

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of Rick moranis playing Darth Vader.
That's freaking genius. It's genius, just

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genius. And this huge helmet on
his head. He looks so ridiculous.

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It's so funny. Oh, mister
coffee. It's like, of course I

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always drink coffee before I look at
the radar. You know, this is

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mister coffee. Dude. This character, well George is it George Wiener Winer?

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I think it's Winer Winer. He
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older I get, the more I
appreciate how absolutely hilarious he is in this

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movie. Well he's a straight man, yeah, but he's so He's still

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got this sort of personality you know
in delivery that is just so funny,

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opposite dark helmet. You know,
mister coffee. Everybody got that. I

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think that all the time. I
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of my vernacular. Is everybody got
that? Yeah, yeah, for people

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not watching along, basically explaining the
plot of the movie, and then Rick

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Moranis looks two camera and says,
everybody got that, right, I can

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I can hear all the dialog here
hot too hot now with this whole planet

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Druidio thing. You know what's kind
of interesting about this is this is clearly

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a riff on Star Wars, but
it's also kind of its own thing,

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right, I mean that, which
is kind of the genius of it,

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because it's you know, you have
those Friedberg and Seltzer parodies that came in

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the last ten fifteen ish years,
which are basically just Twilight but a guy,

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you know, a guy gets hit
in the nuts and then like you

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know, fast and furious, but
a guy gets hitting the nuts, you

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know, And now here here here
at the Movie Film Podcast we celebrate a

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nut hitting comedy. Of course.
Let me, however, understood, let's

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be very clear about that. However, to your point, Yeah, I

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mean there's an actual story here that
plays on the tropes of Star Wars and

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associated sci fi stuff, but it's
doing its own thing, right, And

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I think I think that's sort of
the post scary movie and on approach to

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parody movies, yes, is just
like, oh, it's that thing,

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but yeah, like you said,
vomiting or you know, people or if

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she gets hit by a car,
like what if? What if she recreates

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the scene exactly from this movie,
but then it ends with her getting hit

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by a car, Like that's kind
of the what that became? But I

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just I I admire that this is
so clearly riffing on Star Wars esque things,

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but it is also well. Actually
George Lucas himself, I guess he

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was shown the film and according to
Brooks I think on the DVD commentary he

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was saying that Lucas was like busting
a gut laughing and said that even if

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you took the Star Wars stuff out
of this, like, it's still a

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good adventure film, which he took
his high praise. I think that's true.

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And the great thing is that the
humor, you can grow up with

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the humor, so it allows for
I mean, I don't know. I'm

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sure this is the case for you
that as you've watched this over the last

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thirty plus years, you've you've come
to appreciate new jokes that you didn't notice

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before definitely, definitely, Yeah,
Prince Prince Balian by the way, that

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that's just a funny gag. That's
a riff on on Prince Baliant the character.

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But but having Jim J. Bullock
playing him, which, like Jim

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J. Bullock is one of those
guys who when I was a kid,

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I used to watch Too Close for
Comfort, which is that sitcom with Ted

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Knight. And even as a little
kid, I mean, you know,

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Jim J. Bullock was like flaming
right. Even as a kid, I

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was like, I don't know what
gay is, but I think that's that's

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what gay is, right, you
know, like right, it's just you

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know, so the idea of him
playing the husband to be is just this

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extra little bit of humor, you
know, Oh that's funny. Barf.

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Can't go wrong with barf. I
know, this is interesting. I mean

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with John Candy here, I I
was reading about how they had thought to

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put all this makeup on his face
to make him look really dog like,

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but they're kind of like chewy full
chewy. Yeah, but then they're like,

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I guess Brooks was like, why
am I paying John Candy? You

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know, if I can get someone
half the price to just cover their face.

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So they came up with what I
think is like the perfect compromise,

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which is just these mechanical ears,
like a little patch over his eye like

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a tail. It's perfect. And
you can imagine now, and this isn't

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even a criticism, but you just
can imagine now. It's like, well,

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the years would becg and probably,
but like there's something it looks great,

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like just watching his ears emote with
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I read somewhere that he had like
a thirty pound battery on his back,

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yeah, just to get all the
little little chotchkeys all over him to

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do their thing. Yeah, but
it looks it looks great. Do we

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mention? By the way, I
can't remember that Lucas had some stipulations,

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right, agreeing to let Brooks do
this. Yeah, yeah, and no

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toys, no toys, no toys, which you can understand. So so

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Lucas that right there, to Lucas
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you know what I mean, It's
totally totally and so yeah, no

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no merchandise. And then along those
lines with the stipulations, Lone Star couldn't

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dress like Hans solo, So Brooks
had him dressed like Indiana Jones, which

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is kind of perfect. Yeah,
I love the jacket khakis. What's funny

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too, is they want did like
a bigger name to play loan Star.

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They were looking at like a Tom
Cruise or like a Mel Gibson type,

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right, and then uh, and
you know, I think Tom Cruise probably

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turned it down. He was like, I'm not gonna do that. But

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when they got Rick Moranis and John
Candy, that gave the flexibility of saying,

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oh, let's just find an unknown
to play loan Star. And Bill

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Pullman is so good in this,
so good, so good. I mean

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that's one of those things. I
mean, I understand the business of show

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business and you have to have names
and get people in. But sometimes when

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the filmmakers are allowed to take risks
and cast who they really really want,

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you're just like and then it works. You're like, oh, man,

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like, yeah, Bill Pullman is
so great in this or else Pizza?

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Yeah, yeah, you comment,
what's the happening on screen here? Pizza?

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The hut is disgusting looking? Yeah? Yeah, But isn't it such

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like a junior high joke? It's
like job of the Hut. It's like

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a to the Hut and he's made
a freaking pizza. You know. It's

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just well and then on top of
that, the pizza is gonna send out

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for you, right exactly. That's
a really funny joke which I totally flew

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over my head when I was a
kid, totally totally going back to me.

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And then you got you the Max
Headroom sort of henchmen, yeah,

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which like I love the fact when
you look at that guy now you're like,

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oh, that's just makeup. But
I'll tell you, as a kid,

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I was like, wow, that
looks amazing, you know, I

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know, it looks pretty good.
It holds up really well. By the

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way, the speaking of Star Wars
references the way in which Daphne's an ego

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with the with the Princess Leia hairdo. Yeah, again, just a great

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gag that oh those are yeah,
I know that's just headphones. I don't

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know. Yeah, no, it's
good. It's good. It also read

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but you know there's a couple of
people, you know for a lone Star,

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but that they were reach out to
James Kahn to play loan Star.

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I can actually see that. It's
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I get it, I get it, I get it. But for

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the fact that you would need somebody
very different to play Vespa exactly, yeah,

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because that would be gross right right, right now, Pulman was ultimately

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the right choice. I guess they
Brooks or his wife had seen him in

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a play or something. That's right. Yep, the late and Bancroft,

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yep, right, this is this
is a joke I didn't get too later.

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The Perry Air Perry. Yeah.
Well, the funny thing to me

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is how it's in the phone call
that he's having is in the context of

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like he's trying to get some fines
reversed like that because he's like, no,

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no, Spaceball doesn't have an air
shortage crisis. Thank you, and

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thank you also for not reversing those
fines. So like, what, what's

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the conversation that led into that,
right right? I know, Yeah,

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it's like all the offhanded remarks that
you start noticing the more you watch it

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or the older you get, that's
right. But yeah, just having this

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whole original plot, like not just
being like, oh, they're building a

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death star, you know, it's
like, oh, right, planets running

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out of air. They're going to
steal it from this other plate, you

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know, like it's it's kind of
cool that they went for something a little

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original so they can have i don't
know, their own sort of plot and

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fun with their plot. But then
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and beaming and all sorts of other
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Snotty beaming me twice last night,
right right, and this, of course

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I mean again peak peak comedy,
junior high. I'm telling you, man,

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I mean, I don't get me
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think at this point Spaceballs is sort
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particularly u embraced. Yeah, it's
it's one of those weird things. I

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mean, sometimes you do need time
and distance to really appreciate things and also

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to see where things are headed.
And it makes you appreciate where you were,

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you know. Yeah, with with
satire and parodies kind of going downhill

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more closer to recent But yeah,
I looked up like Roger Ebert only gave

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it two and a half stars,
and one of his quotes, he said,

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I enjoyed a lot of the movie
but I kept thinking I was at

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a revival. It should have been
made several years ago before I appetite for

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Star Wars satires had been completely exhausted. And I was interesting to me because,

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yeah, which Star Wars satires?
Well that, yeah, I mean

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maybe the what was the one with
the vacuums and or what was that called?

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Oh likewa Wars? Yeah, nobody, Like I mean that wasn't like

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a mainstream thing, was it?
No? True, but I have no

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idea or maybe just from Sinnel or
things like that. But I was like,

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oh, Roger, if you only
knew what was to come, like

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you were about to be buried in
it. Well, and I yeah,

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right, I think for a couple
of points, because definitely in eighty seven,

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Return of the Jedi was far enough
in the past that I was like,

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oh, wow, okay, I
guess you know, like it was

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like it seems like it's been a
while, you know. Yeah, now,

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given the passage of time, well, four years is nothing, because

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Star Wars has remained timeless, and
therefore Spaceballs has remained timeless along with it,

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you know, like it's not like, like, let me put this

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way, like like hot Shots Part
two has aged worse probably than Hot Shots

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Part one, right because of the
Top Gun versus Rainbow exactly, because people

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are still watching Top Gun right right, right. But what that movie has

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going for it, likewise with this
one is at the jokes at least are

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still funny on their face, versus
if they had just been sort of riffing

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on things that you are expected to
remember from a certain movie. That's exactly

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it. Yeah, right, how
many assholes we got on the ship?

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Yeah? Yo, surrounded by assholes? I mean it is like borsch Belt

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comedy, you know, totally.
I remember on TV they changed it to

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Moron and I was kind of fascinated
because it totally worked. I was like,

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oh, did they filmed the whole
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in the novelization, I think it
was idiots. No, that makes sense.

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A novelization, by the way,
written by R. L. Stein,

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you know, it's funny. I
was going to bring that up at

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some point. I thought that was
fascinating first of all, but I also

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I was reading through a bunch of
highlights of the book, and uh,

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it's just it's just kind of fascinating, like the way they were trying to

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either appeal to kids or change things
for kids. That's right, Yeah,

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like like you said with the idiots
thing. And then also when they're gonna

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change the princess's nose, they just
change it. They were gonna like brand

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her with like Scrub's name or something. And and then there it's like there's

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a humorous running gag. Every time
Barf scratches himself, one of the other

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characters asks if he has fleas.
That was funny. And then and then

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also another one I wrote down was
Meg. Yeah, yeah, speaking of

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scratching itself. I totally talked right
past it. But when when when Scrub

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like scratches his balls facing backwards,
Yeah, gassing up anyway, Sorry,

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go ahead, No, I was
just gonna say. And then I guess

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they gave In the book, Mega
made a line and she says one line

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it is, I don't do windows. That's kind of funny. That's actually

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kind of funny. Yeah, it's
good. But I was like, now

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I should say I read the novelization
as a kid. I had already seen

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the movie. Oh you've read it, Oh, okay, I read it,

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and after having seen the movie.
So I remember the certain of those

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things that some of the stuff you
mentioned I to completely forgotten, but the

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surrounded by idiots thing, I definitely
remember that. And I definitely remember when

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Goosebumps became a thing. I was
like, Hey, it's the guy who

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wrote the Spaceballs book. Oh wow, how funny. Good for him?

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Yeah? Oh man, Yeah,
yeah, no, for sure, that's

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that was like one of those things
growing up in school, you know where

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they had the scholastic well, they
had the book fairs, but they also

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had those I don't know way to
call them, like catalogs. They would

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give you the book the order forms, yeah, the order forms, and

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it would be like, you know, Indiana, like you were all into

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Last Crusade or something, and then
they'd have the novelization and you'd order it

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and anticipate when you'd see that Scholastic
box in your teacher's desk and be like,

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oh, my, Indiana, Joel's
book is in there. I mean

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that ship like you would uh,
you know, give them a check and

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they would submit it and like two
weeks before graduating high school, your packet

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would arrive and it would be the
greatest thing, you know, I mean,

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you place the order in like first
grade. It would take forever.

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Yeah, it took Yeah, what
felt like forever? I don't even remember

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in this age now, I don't
think kids could even process the joy that

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you would feel. Yeah, right, there's nothing you Yeah, you're exactly

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Wait okay, yeah, well then
I mean, come on, like jam

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their radar, shoot a jar a
jam this. This is one of my

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favorite jokes. You know, it
was like, you know, and then

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and then when he takes the thing
out of his hand and he still does

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it, he still does the radar
or the convoys. You don't need that,

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Yeah, say, set out so
good. So by this point Michael

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Winslow had knocked out a couple of
them Police Academy movies. Yeah, he

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must be like, oh set up. This guy's on screen, and that's

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right. And my thought always is, and I'm sure he's a lovely person,

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but is he like this all the
time? Because it would annoy the

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piss out of me. That is
so funny that that's what you think.

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I wait, have we explained him? By the way, For people that

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most likely do not know who we're
talking about it, Michael Winslow was this

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actor who was in as far as
I mean, I'm sure he was a

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stand up, that's my guest.
But then he was in the Police Academy

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movies, and his thing was that
he would do these really great sound effects

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with his mouth. So like in
Police Academy, for example, it'd be

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like, maybe some kids are skateboarding
where they shouldn't. Then you'd hear a

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police siren, but then he would
walk up and it would be like,

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oh, he's making that sound with
his mouth and that was his stick,

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Like it's Officer Jones again. You
know. Yeah, it's it's hard to

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explain, I guess, but like
you so, and then utilizing him in

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this movie, he's this like comms
person and he's just like making all these

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sound effects with his noise. Like
I have trouble with the radars. It's

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given the bleeps, the creeps.
Man sweet, I'm like, man again,

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I think in short doses, I'm
sure that would be fine. But

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like if you're sitting next to him
at dinner and he's doing that, that

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is true. Like if you're yes, if you're like cutting your meat or

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something like that, and then he's
gone or he's like you know, yeah,

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that would probably get on your nerves
Yes, that's funny. I hadn't

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even worked. I'm just so charmed
by him. I hadn't even gotten to

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the scenario where he's getting on my
nerves. But that is that is true

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anyway. Oh so yeah, Joan
Rivers here, right is what's her name?

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Dot matrix? I think dot matrix, which is like a type of

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printer or the way printers used to
print. Right. I love how you're

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talking as if that's something alien to
you, because that's aging me. No,

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no, I remember, I mean
I had one. I just don't

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remember what that was, if that
was some kind of a printer or something.

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Everybody that was shick I did where
I pretended I didn't remember things that

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clearly we both remember. Do you
know that telephones used to be connected to

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the wall, Yeah, you from
the second some kind of a wire,

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Yeah, yes, a dot matrix
printer it would go and so yeah you

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again, that was probably a sound
effect that Michael Winslow did, yes in

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the eighties. Yes, yeah,
you did not want to go to a

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Kinkos with Michael Winslow. Yeah,
no, of course I remember that.

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I couldn't remember if that was the
name of a brand or if that was

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the styles, the style. Imagine
that like line by line, dot by

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dot printing out your pages. I
remember being in like community college and like

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sweating because I was running late,
but I was waiting for my stupid freaking

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dot matrix printer to slowly churn out
the paper that was due that day.

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So anyway, yeah, good,
you're taking me back. Yeah. I

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had a keyboarding class freshman year,
so exactly thirty years ago, and it

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was just all all period. You
just hear, you know, people printing

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their stuff out, driving it slowly, insane yep, yep, you know

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this stuff. Knowing that ILM did
this, You're like, yeah, no,

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this looks pretty good. I don't
know that, I fully. I

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mean, it doesn't look quite Star
Wars level these special effects here, but

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it's a lightning team probably yeah,
right, Like, but it looks it

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looks much better than it should.
I mean, when you see movies that

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are even later than this, it
looks better than like Flash Gordon, for

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example, which is basically right somewhat
serious, you know. Yeah, but

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even look at this this shot.
This is another thing I appreciate. Look

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at it, like the lighting here, like this looks kind of like a

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serious space movie right, where sometimes
comedies will overlight things and like, no,

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we're having fun, and I kind
of like, I think comedies can

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be funnier when they look like the
thing they're actually trying to be. But

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then they're funny in that tone,
which, by the way, by the

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way, I just literally just noticed
her license plate which is spoiled rotten.

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Spoiled rotten. Yeah, yeah,
never never noticed that before. I had

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to call it that. That that
moment there where he's tells his guard to

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wait or whatever, and the guy's
like, go, who you know,

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captain or whatever, and then he
just does this silent head turn and just

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looks at the guard and it slowly
puts his head back to the ship.

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Like that is so funny to me. Yeah, she's not in here.

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We're in a bagel. I love
out. That's how he makes the connection

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to Lonster. Right, it comes
the Bad Year Blimp. Do people who

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even talk about the Good Year Blimp
anymore? I don't think so. I

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I think that is exclusively a reference
to pop culture references. Yeah, yeah,

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Like I mean, there is one
out here down the from where I

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lived, down the four or five. You can see it on the side

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of the road. But it's people
just don't anymore. It's not a ubiquitous

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like pop culture reference. Yeah,
like you'd have to explain it. Yeah,

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yeah, I guess it used to
be novel having this blimp over your

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football game. But now there's like
drones that can like recreate an animated American

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flag or something. You know,
So it's just like, who cares.

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We've lost our ability to be amazed. Brian, That's really what it is.

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I know. Now, this is
a pretty iconic joke here, of

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one of many. I did not
know what the word ludicrous meant until I

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watched this movie. This is where
I learned it. Yeah, I mean,

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so stupid, so great, a
matter of Colonel Sanders Chicken repair ship

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close the three Warring circus. But
yeah, so instead of going to light

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speed, it's uh, ludicrous speed. We gotta go past light speed into

407
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:33.279
ridiculous speed and then into ludicrous speed. Yep, buckle this this is so

408
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:41.519
funny. It's like my brains are
going into my feet. There was a

409
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:48.720
time when like I had this movie
memorized, I mean same right, Like

410
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.799
yeah, well, and I mean
it's worth mentioning that now we have electric

411
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.480
cars, didn't you know didn't have
those, I don't think in eighty seven,

412
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.880
and now they electric car people making
them thought would be funny to actually

413
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:07.519
give it a setting called ludicrous speed. That's really funny. I actually didn't

414
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.640
know that. Yeah, yeah,
and that this is just this is a

415
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:18.119
great joke, like they go past
light speed and they go to plaid like

416
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.759
apropo of nothing, you know what
I mean. Like it's not like based

417
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:26.839
on anything. It's just like they
just go to plaid. You've gone to

418
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:37.799
plaid week ahead stop. I love
him the older I think as I became

419
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.200
an adult watch this, he's become
my favorite character in the movie. Now.

420
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:48.839
What's funny to me is the the
little uh lever here Yes, and

421
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:53.000
it says never use right right,
Well, why is it there then?

422
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.000
Right? It's not like use only
in case, it's like never use it.

423
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:06.039
Well, then don't have that thing
right here? This is such a

424
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:13.200
This is like Rick moranis in Ghostbusters, like after he's possessed by totally Yeah,

425
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:20.720
yeah, have some otherways like smoke
him if you got him, if

426
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:28.359
you got him. Yeah. Although
I feel like they have made Spaceballs figures

427
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:30.680
since this am I am I wrong? Like I feel like they exist now,

428
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.759
I have to imagine. I mean, I can't remember the names where

429
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:42.359
they There's like these companies like Series
seven or Super seven is that Super Super

430
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:47.440
seven? And they make them look
like packaging and toys that were released in

431
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.519
the eighties, but they're based on
all the stuff that we wished we had

432
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:57.359
had growing up, right, Yeah, yeah, so I think those companies,

433
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:05.480
yeah, capitalizing on all this stuff. Now, Yeah, I'm wondering.

434
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:10.359
You know, it's I I feel
like I don't Yeah, I just

435
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.440
feel like there's like merch for this
stuff kind of now space spaceballs, Like

436
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:21.559
I feel like I saw someone somewhere
wearing a Spaceball's the T shirt sure or

437
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.599
something like that, which I'm sure
Lucas now is just like whatever, Well,

438
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.039
Lucas isn't even in the mix anymore, right, Like that's true.

439
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.720
You know, I wonder if Brooks
is Yeah, I'm I'm wondering. Yeah,

440
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.480
a good point. But I'm also
like, would Disney be more or

441
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.519
less amenable than George Lucas was?
Yeah, that's a that's a good point

442
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:44.039
too. I don't know. This
is another thing too, I didn't think

443
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:45.359
about as a kid, but now
our eyes are a little tuned to it.

444
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.039
But when you can see model work, oh sure, you know where

445
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:53.359
that's clearly like a model when a
baygo enforced perspective with probably like a sandbox,

446
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:58.720
you know, when they're here.
But sort of like with Batman eighty

447
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:00.640
nine. I mean, growing up, I didn't think about it, but

448
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.960
now when the bat wing crashes,
it's clearly five that's like a ten inch

449
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:15.239
model that yeah. Yeah, but
yeah, yeah, just uh there their

450
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.800
love story too, you know,
like how it's it's different. It's it's

451
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:22.079
like Leiah and Han and they're sparring, but it's it's different, it's well

452
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:27.679
and it's playing on those tropes.
Yeah. Daphne is an ego by the

453
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.079
way, it was like twenty five
when she did this. Wow, she

454
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:37.039
would go on to be on Melrose
Place. Yeah, and she's in the

455
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.079
Fly two, which is one of
the worst movies I've ever seen. Fly

456
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.360
too, I've never seen that.
Yeah, that's the one with Eric Stoltz.

457
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:50.039
Oh really yeah, yeah, how
many years after the gold Bloom one?

458
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.679
That gold Bloom I think was eighty
six and Fly two was I want

459
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.199
to say eighty eight. Wow,
Okay, so not not that far.

460
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.760
Yeah, but it's it's it's pretty
bad, yeah, eighty nine. Eighty

461
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.199
nine says three years later. Yeah, I'm curious how old Bill Pullman was

462
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:13.440
in this though. Yeah, I
don't know, maybe like thirty early thirties

463
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:17.599
or something. Yeah, probably it
looks like mid thirties probably. Yeah,

464
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:24.679
let's see fifty fifty three he was
born, so yeah, about thirty four.

465
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:30.039
They all right, hey, you're
right, we're we're both right.

466
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:36.000
When you're right, you're right.
We just on a related tangent. A

467
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:40.480
couple of weeks ago, my kids
watched Independence Day two uh their own,

468
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:46.440
despite my protestations. I was like, hey, I'm not telling you how

469
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.440
to live your life, but I
don't normally tell you I hate movies.

470
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.760
I hate that movie. Really,
wait, what do they think? They?

471
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:59.360
Well, my second one he was
kind of like, well, in

472
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.320
for a penny for a pound,
so he he didn't tap out. My

473
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.800
my older one he was like I'm
done, you know, oh really yeah?

474
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.519
Yeah, they and they, but
they they watched the part where Bill

475
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:13.159
Pullman sacrifices himself, and they were
essentially like, what kind of freaking bullshit

476
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:19.679
is that? They were like so
mad at that. Yeah, when you

477
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.679
don't get Will Smith you gotta come
up with something big, that's right.

478
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.360
I remember thinking this giant hair dryer
was hilarious as a kid. Wait,

479
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.159
going back, I was quoting bar
for earlier when he's like, when you're

480
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.599
right, you're right, and you
you're always right. And just for the

481
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.679
personal record, I have to say
I worked this job at a restaurant and

482
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.280
one of the servers said that once
and I was like, wait, what

483
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.360
is that from? And she was
like, I don't know, And it

484
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:52.119
drove us crazy and we I remember
going to every single employee in the restaurant

485
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:53.519
and saying it and being like,
wait, what is that from? It

486
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:57.639
was driving us crazy, and we
were thinking it was from Aladdin. I

487
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.119
remember we thought it was like a
Yago saying that are or something, and

488
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:05.400
then eventually we figured out that it's
nope, Barfin spaceballs. How long did

489
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.239
that take to eventually get there?
I don't remember, but I remember it

490
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:14.320
being like a day long affair.
Dude, this right here, This whole

491
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:22.599
sequence when they when they watch the
video h so funny. I this hilarious

492
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:28.000
too. By the way, him
slurping the coffee through his home. I

493
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:32.239
think this is one of the greatest
movie gags of all time. Oh,

494
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:38.000
it's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant.
It's original, and it is mel Brooks

495
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:44.559
movies by the way, right,
But it's like it's perfectly mined and executed,

496
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.119
you know what I mean, Like
they take full advantage of this concept

497
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:54.880
and it's execution. The timing is
perfection. Yeah, people not watching along.

498
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:59.920
This is when they're trying to figure
out where the heroes went the villains,

499
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:01.280
and so they're like, well,
let's just watch the movie and find

500
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:05.840
out it's Yeah, but we're in
the middle of the movie, like,

501
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.079
oh no, it's this brand new
thing. You know, you watched the

502
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:10.920
movie before it's finished. And so
they put in Spaceballs the movie and they

503
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.679
fast forward through the film that we
are watching and show us things we just

504
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:22.280
saw. It's brilliant, and then
dark helmet, you know, crashing and

505
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.599
fast forward this. In fact,
never play this again again. I mean,

506
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.920
this is a look on his face. But that is hilarious enough.

507
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:36.960
But then they catch up to the
movie. So you're watching now, we're

508
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:42.079
watching now and the way now now
yeah is moving his hands now now?

509
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:51.559
Now you know, oh my gosh, oh yeah. Every single time this

510
00:38:51.639 --> 00:39:02.519
cracks me up. It's even even
moves his hands now now okay, just

511
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:12.920
now, yeah, what happened to
then? I missed it? Just h

512
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.280
this. I truly like if I
had to make like a top ten comedy

513
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.559
gags of all time, I really
feel like this could belong there. No,

514
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:30.639
I would co sign that. Yeah, oh so funny. Uh sorry

515
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:35.760
for everybody listening to this. Just
hey, you just us watch or you're

516
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:43.239
listening to us watch Spaceballs. You
know what you signed up exactly? Oh

517
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:51.880
man, just coming down for that
scene. Sorry. I kind of love

518
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.239
this, uh sort of old school
clearly a stage kind of reminds me of

519
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:59.400
Three Amigos in a way, right, oh sure, you know, like

520
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:04.119
outside i'd starry sky setting. It's
kind of I kind of like it.

521
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:15.760
Yeah, I mean it's a it's
a obviously a sound stage, but we

522
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:22.280
buy it. Yeah. Yeah,
I love the I don't I know that

523
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.679
I can quite name what they're riffing
on here specifically, but the way that

524
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.320
they start talking, the the yeah, nah, never was like kind of

525
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.280
you know, like lovey dovey,
old school romantic kind of lester play.

526
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.599
It's kind of fun. It feels
like something. I'm sure Brooks. It's

527
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.679
probably like movies he grew up with
and is loving to riff on. Well,

528
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:45.400
and and you know, I think
that kind of like Blazing Saddles,

529
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:53.239
which is very much as send up
of the entirety of the Western genre,

530
00:40:53.920 --> 00:41:00.559
right, I think this one is
a little bit more narrowly focused. And

531
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:06.599
so when we think about like what
critics out that at the time didn't like,

532
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.559
maybe maybe it's that like the expectation, like because even even like Young

533
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:16.639
Frankenstein, which is pretty clearly a
parody of universal horror movies, it's it's

534
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:22.280
the it's the style of humor slightly
different. Yeah, sure, right,

535
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.480
yeah, this is on the spectrum. This is maybe a little bit raunchier.

536
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:32.599
H even again it's like pretty wholesome. Yeah, totally the benefit of

537
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:39.719
thirty six years of Behindsight, right
right right? You know that is kind

538
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.519
of interesting, right. You don't
see as many PG movies these days.

539
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:46.079
I was surprised to see that across
the Spider Verse was PG. I was

540
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.079
like, oh, well, you
just don't see that, you know,

541
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:54.400
you just kind of expect everything to
be basically PG thirteen. Yeah. Unfortunately,

542
00:41:54.559 --> 00:42:00.679
PG is thought of as sort of
a box office killer, right right,

543
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.800
Whereas in the eighties. Whatever we
think of PG thirteen, that's kind

544
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.119
of what PG was then, you
know, that's right, And this is

545
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:12.880
one of those yeah, go ahead. Sorry. I was like, maybe

546
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.840
maybe it was better that way.
I don't know. Yeah, it's kind

547
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:17.000
of like nice to have, like
a I don't know, it's like I

548
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:22.719
said, I think just everything just
feels kind of lumped into that PG thirteen

549
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:24.480
thing. But this is one of
the few PG movies from the eighties it

550
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:29.960
actually has the effort in it,
yeah right, which is like kind of

551
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:31.760
a weird, anomalish sort of thing, you know, Like I guess I

552
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.679
look, it was in the trivia
I was looking at where it's Katy Shack

553
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:42.400
two Beetlejuice Big in this movie.
It's a very specific fraternity. Yeah.

554
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.360
Yeah. By the way, as
a kid, I definitely didn't get the

555
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.760
virgin alarm. Nope, not at
all. Yeah, I was just gonna

556
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.000
bring that up. Yeah. Ye. Did we mention Joan Rivers? I

557
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:59.320
can't remember we did, although we
didn't talk about how she was brought in

558
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:05.400
late in the game. The original
the original plan was for the actress who

559
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.159
was doing the mime for Dot Matrix. She was gonna do the voice Lorraine

560
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:15.760
Yarnell, and for whatever reason,
mel Brooks reached out to to Joan Rivers.

561
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:22.599
I don't know why exactly. I
would assume to sort of because because

562
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.920
I mean she was so well known, she had such a distinctive voice and

563
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:30.039
such a specific comedic sensibility. Maybe
just to add a little extra humor,

564
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.880
right right, I mean obviously she's
great, you know, Yeah, I

565
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.519
mean but like even like Dom DeLuise, he has his voice cameo as Pizza

566
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:45.079
of the Hut and stuff like that. So speaking of like, you know,

567
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:46.920
jokes, like as a kid,
I probably found very funny the whole

568
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:54.440
you know, water water and matrix
being like oil oil, And I'm sure

569
00:43:54.440 --> 00:44:00.239
I didn't get when they did that
cross fade to the sun and then John

570
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:06.960
Canny's like nice dissolve. Yeah,
definitely that's as a grown up. Now.

571
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:14.760
Yeah, we were talking about sequels
earlier. This is my thirty five

572
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:20.119
minute later transition, but I guess
Rick Mandis had said that he had spoken

573
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:24.000
with mel Brooks about a potential sequel
and they were pitching the title Spaceballs three

574
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.639
the Search for Spaceballs two. That's
pretty funny. I was like, that's

575
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:35.400
good, that's good. I'm glad
they didn't do a sequel, you know,

576
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:38.360
And I think I can easily imagine
a scenario where they would have and

577
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.320
the next one would have been kind
of a hot shots thing where it takes

578
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:47.639
aim at a different yeah, right, right, But but I think it's

579
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:51.840
best left as a one and done. And I think that's borne out by

580
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:57.039
the fact that there was this animated
series, yes, right, which was

581
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:02.159
just freaking awful, kind of weird, right because it I don't have a

582
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:06.599
huge memory of it, the specifics
of it, but I just remember it

583
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.000
felt like real, like sort of
t and a humor and kind of like

584
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:13.800
lowbrow kind of stuff, and it
doesn't feel very Brooksy, I mean brooksy,

585
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.119
like it's such an I don't know
why I keep repeating this stupid thing

586
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.840
that I'm saying, but like t
he like he kind of like cheeky humor,

587
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.199
you know, he doesn't go for
the full like body raunchy sort of

588
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:29.599
stuff. So it just it didn't
feel like connected. Yeah, and that's

589
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:31.920
doubly weird because mel Brooks was in
it, daphnews an ego was in it,

590
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:37.880
Jo was in it, So I
mean there was definitely connective tissue,

591
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:43.960
right, just the style of humor
didn't didn't fit. Oh and Dom Delawiz

592
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:47.320
also was in it, so wow, I didn't realize how how old the

593
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.679
show is. It's actually like fifteen
years ago. I have to comment real

594
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.760
quick on that that ship that's hovering
there, you can clearly see the mirror

595
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.159
beneath it to you know, reflect
the same. I mean, it's a

596
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:05.760
good old school trick, little little
nod to Star Wars yep, the original,

597
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:08.639
the land speed or Effect. Yeah, going back real quick to the

598
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:14.280
animated show. I think I've said
this's on the show many many episodes ago,

599
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:20.239
but our pals Shawn Coyle and I
pitched a TV show to the network

600
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.039
that was developing Spaceball. So I
think it's called G four G four yep,

601
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:28.400
yep. And it was the only
meeting that we ever took where someone

602
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.079
was literally looking at their phone while
we spoke to them and going uh huh

603
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:37.960
huh. And I was like like
the stereotype of something, you know what

604
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.960
I mean, like of like a
network executive. And I remember thinking like

605
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:49.800
really, like this is really happening, Like yeah, but they they man

606
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.719
four, Well, it sounds like
nothing of value was lost. It like

607
00:46:53.920 --> 00:47:00.320
I'm thinking, but uh so,
anyway, the jaw was sort of already

608
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:01.519
here. I mean, there's sort
of this riff on the jawas kind of

609
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:05.840
the Munchkins from Wizards of Oz.
Right, it's like sort of this hybrid

610
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:07.280
thing. And then now this is
straight up Wizard of Oz, right,

611
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:12.639
them arm arm approaching sort of like
the Wizard at the end of our middle

612
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:20.280
Wizard of Oz. And the fact
of that the Dinks that they're singing the

613
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:25.480
Bridge on the River choae music that
was totally passed me by when I was

614
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.280
a kid. Oh, totally.
Yeah. Actually, it's so funny.

615
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:30.519
I'm just so used to I don't
even think about it, like that's yeah

616
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.960
Brooks. I have to admit,
as as a kid, it didn't even

617
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.960
occur to me that he's just on
his knees. Yeah, right, right

618
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:45.039
right, I'm like, no,
he's just short. And I was like

619
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:50.079
amazed, he's like short there,
and he's like tall there, what's going

620
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.800
on here? Magic? Yeah,
He's just he's just on his knees.

621
00:47:53.760 --> 00:48:00.559
Yeah, it's so simple. That
makeup is actually pretty good, I think.

622
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.440
So. Yeah, Now, was
this the first Mel Brooks movie that

623
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:12.000
you ever saw? Almost certainly,
Yeah, yeah. I mean I'm guessing

624
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:16.519
I was like eight or nine or
something, so probably like this feels like

625
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.880
sleeping over to friend's house, going
to the video store, you know,

626
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.599
picking Spaceballs for the fourth time.
Like that's kind of my memory of watching

627
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.159
this movie as a kid, So
I'm sure it's probably the beginning of that.

628
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:36.000
Yeah you uh yeah, oh,
without a doubt. Yeah, but

629
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:43.559
like I knew the name mel Brooks. Yeah yeah, this is great now

630
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.400
this but you can see that there's
like a on the coloring book right there,

631
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.920
there's Optimist Prime. Yes, you
know, they just they just took

632
00:48:53.039 --> 00:49:00.360
random existing stuff and just threw a
Spaceball's logo on it. Hilarious with you,

633
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:09.039
yeah, playing with their grow goo
No, yes, you're right.

634
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.440
The flames, I remember that cracking
me up as a kid. Baseball is

635
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:20.960
the flame Thrower. Kids love this
one. There's a little little scandalous.

636
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.480
I remember watching this as a kid
and it being awkward that my parents were

637
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:30.480
in the room, right right,
But it is very it's like cheeky,

638
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:37.159
you know, that's right. Yeah, it's like just this side of Benny

639
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.400
Hill. Yeah yeah, yeah,
exactly. Oh my gosh, what a

640
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:46.639
great chokes combing The desert. Well, what's great. It's it's like levels

641
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:51.239
of great because it's funny enough that
they're combing and then you've got the black

642
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:55.199
guy who's combing it with the afro
pick right, exactly right. And it's

643
00:49:55.239 --> 00:50:00.840
funny too because it's like the ace
comb. It's not just like ah comb,

644
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.920
it's like they look like oversized,
Like honey, I blew up the

645
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.920
kid, you know, like took
these real combs that you used to have

646
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.519
in your pocket. You know.
There's yeah, there's a lot of layers

647
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:17.239
of this. We found shit.
It's good. I love too how the

648
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:21.320
movie like sort of like hangs there
for a second because they know you're laughing,

649
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.559
right, we gotta give you a
second. This this right here though

650
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:37.400
when when he's it's like a right, right, more more right. I

651
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.639
was just clearing my throat. So
if this is another thing too, where

652
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:44.880
like I wonder if I were to
make a Star Wars parody, if I

653
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.800
would be you know, too faithful
to the original material and trying to riff

654
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.599
on certain things. But I love
that it's like always got this medallion and

655
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.000
he doesn't know what it means,
and you know, find out has something

656
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:59.000
to do with this lineage, like
all this original stuff is pretty good.

657
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.920
But that's the funny thing is that
mel Brooks said he wanted to be as

658
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:08.320
close as possible to Star Wars,
right, And I mean, I guess

659
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:12.440
it just sort of depends on perspective, because I mean in many ways he

660
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.360
is, you know, right,
like that's I think he was smart enough

661
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:20.800
to I mean he's he's mel Brooks. He's got story sense. Yeah,

662
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:25.079
yeah, so he knows he knew
how to create a story within this framework.

663
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:30.039
That hit because you know, if
we say that Star Wars is you

664
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.840
know, power of myth and archetypes
and blah blah blah, well he's just

665
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.599
mel Brooks is touching on those same
archetypes. He's just doing it with kind

666
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:42.880
of a you know, with with
a raised eyebrow. Yeah yeah, and

667
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.920
sort of the Star Wars setting slash
characters. That's right, you know this

668
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:57.199
this is such a good character jokes, Daisy. Yeah, but that that

669
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:05.039
big flat yeah right, I had
read too that. I guess this was

670
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:08.800
the highest budget mel Brooks ever had, about twenty two twenty five million.

671
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:15.079
Yeah, and in comparison to that, like the movie did okay, But

672
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:20.920
I don't know because it made It
made thirty eight million, right, which

673
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.800
I don't know if in nineteen eighty
seven dollars that's considered like a hit in

674
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:29.559
a Yeah, things have changed so
much, Whereas now you know, you

675
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.599
look at a budget, it's more
than just a budget. You have to

676
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:35.599
make back. It's like you know, marketing, which is like, you

677
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.480
know, double the budget and that's
right. So I don't I don't know

678
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:45.320
how that with the I mean,
it looked like that it opened in uh

679
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:57.000
second place. I think, yeah, that's right, Like like the movie

680
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:02.559
Dragnet did better, wow, which
you know what I mean, Like like

681
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:08.519
look at this twenty million budget for
Dragnet and it made sixty six and a

682
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:15.039
half. Wow. Wow. So
Dragnett was an unquestionable hit. Now do

683
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.800
you think the adults in that day
and age, and I am even saying

684
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.719
like young adults, like they knew
what Dragnett was and so that was sort

685
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:27.800
of hitting them in the fields.
Whereas this was like we had to sort

686
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.719
of wait for this on VHS because
the Star Wars generation was maybe a little

687
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.559
too young to go to the theater
for this. And then that's how like

688
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.960
in video and beyond it became in
dear to us. That is a great

689
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:43.280
question. I think that let's say, Dragnet eighty seven, right, so

690
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:52.519
the TV show what probably ran until
the early seventies, I think probably right,

691
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.960
so, and it was been in
rerun, so it was well known

692
00:53:55.039 --> 00:54:02.039
and the movie was like a parody. So yeah, I would assume that

693
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:07.079
would have played differently. Yeah,
because the whole I mean, dragon,

694
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.159
it's not a good movie, but
the whole bit, the entire stick of

695
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:15.599
the movie Dragnet is here's Dan Ackroyd
doing like a spot on Jack Web impression,

696
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.760
right, right, So the only
way that works is if you have

697
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:25.880
knowledge of Jack Web and the original
to compare it with, right, Whereas

698
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:31.599
yeah, I mean in comparison,
this one just did okay. Yeah,

699
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:38.000
but I'm sure like it's it's post
theatrical life has been you know, exceeded.

700
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:39.880
That's a completely different story. I
mean, I mean, who talks

701
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:45.800
about the Dragnet movie now? Right
now? It feels like when that comes

702
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:47.239
up and that's a dump on that
movie. I've never actually never seen it,

703
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:51.920
but it's a piece of shit.
Brian, I don't will not have

704
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.559
you defending Dragnet. I was gonna
say, the only thing I think people

705
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:59.159
remember now is that rap video?
The rap video, well, Dragnet.

706
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:00.559
For me, first time I ever
saw Tom Hanks was in dragging It,

707
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:06.119
so oh really, I bet for
me it was probably Joe versus the Volcano,

708
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:09.320
which was after right, it was
like nineteen nine, eighty nine or

709
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:15.920
something, Yeah, or maybe Big
I don't know anyway anyway, Spaceballs,

710
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.519
Yeah, but yeah, this whole
ring component. Actually, I kind of

711
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:24.079
remember as a kid not digging the
ring thing because it didn't feel Star Wars

712
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:29.679
e to me interesting, Like I
kind of wanted lightsabers, and like the

713
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:31.280
ring would just look like something you
could get at the Dennis's office out of

714
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:37.000
the treasure chest in a crackerjack box. Yeah yeah, well yeah, yeah,

715
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:40.760
Well meet again in space Balls too, the Search for More Money.

716
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:46.559
That's a funny joke. Yeah,
it's good. I was reading that the

717
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:52.280
makeup gave him mel Brooks a rash, which sounds I believe it. I

718
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:53.679
feel like I was getting a rash
just looking at him in that makeup.

719
00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.760
Yeah. Yeah, oh this right
here, the yeah dark helmet playing with

720
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:07.079
his dolls do look pretty good too. By the way, I'll bet you

721
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.199
if you were to go on like
Etsy or something. You could find these

722
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:16.280
dolls totally totally right, Like,
even if they're not official, I'm sure

723
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:22.159
they exist. Yeah yeah, yeah, but no, like I remember as

724
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:27.079
a kid cracking up at this,
Oh my god, I was rolling yeah

725
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:29.760
yeah, yeah, and then the
guy interrupting him, like, you know,

726
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:32.800
I could see you're playing with their
dolls again, Yeah, exactly.

727
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:45.400
Rick maranis man. He It's like
it's such a shame the way he just

728
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.480
disappeared, you know, I mean, when we know the family reasons and

729
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.559
this and that that he stepped away
from the industry, but it's like such

730
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:57.960
a consistent source of comedy gold.
Yeah. He was one of those guys

731
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.719
that didn't matter what the movie was, you certainly loved him, you know.

732
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:05.320
And that's right, He's just one
of those guys into this day.

733
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.119
I think he's he's very A whole
generation is very, very endeared to him

734
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:12.519
and misses him and wishes he would
come back for sure. Well, and

735
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:17.320
and I think that his career has
outlasted our generation. Like I think that

736
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:22.920
between Spaceballs and Ghostbusters and even Honey
I shrunk the kid. You have,

737
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:29.320
you know, people who've grown up
in the thirty years since who who love

738
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.000
Rick Moranus. Yeah, yeah,
which is great, and I hope he

739
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:36.559
knows that. You know, you
want you want those people to just know

740
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:40.440
how much they mean to the people
grow up with him. It's a funny

741
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:45.480
joke too. The screen the toilet. You know you never use this one.

742
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:53.559
She looks a camera. I am
a sucker for breaking the fourth wall

743
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.000
when it's done the right way.
When it's done the right way, I

744
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:04.679
think the peak breaking the fourth wall
is trading places when oh sure, explaining

745
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:08.559
pork whatever you know, as a
Eddie Murphy and like a blt sandwich and

746
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:12.679
they're totally talking down to him,
and Eddie Murphy just looks straight at camera

747
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.000
and then it just cuts away like
it's that's that's my favorite one. But

748
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:22.199
yeah, there's Brenda Strong as the
nurse. Wait. I don't know Brenda

749
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:31.280
Strong from you know in Seinfeld she
was the braw less wonder Brenda Strong is.

750
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:37.440
She was the narrator of Desperate Housewives. Oh really, oh wait,

751
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:42.039
okay, okay, okay, Like
you know, in the first episode she

752
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.719
kills herself, her character and then
she ghost is like narrating the whole series.

753
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:46.719
So that was her. She's been
in a bunch of stuff. Yeah.

754
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:51.480
Anyway, that's rue. That was
like a very early two thousands thing,

755
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.239
wasn't it like sort of like American
Beauty too, Like, Hi,

756
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:58.199
I'm dead now, but I'm gonna
tell you about my life in suburbias.

757
00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:04.639
Does feel like that? Yeah?
Uh? Oh. Dick Van Patton,

758
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.719
by the way, I didn't mention
him at all. Uh. He was,

759
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:13.440
of course well known for Just The
Ten of Us. No, not

760
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:15.880
so no, sorry, eight is
enough? Which one just the Ten of

761
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:20.519
Us was the later one? Oh
eight is enough? Maybe eight is enough?

762
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:24.119
Yeah, yeah, which I have
to imagine that title comes from his

763
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:37.800
wife telling him to climb off of
her eight is enough. Yeah, I

764
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:52.679
don't know that's right, that's right, because that was definitely my thought with

765
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:54.719
just the Ten of Us. I'm
like, dude, leave her alone.

766
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:05.840
My god, did get a hobby
is enough place? Dick Van Patton must

767
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:10.480
have been some kind of a sexual
dynamo for his wife to just keep popping

768
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:15.079
kids out for him. Jeez,
Louise, that's hilarious. But anyway,

769
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:21.119
Dick Page, he's also he's the
the the abbot in Robin Hadman and Tights.

770
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:23.840
Oh right yeah yeah. Wait.
By the way, I love this

771
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:28.840
joke. The combination, same combination
on my luggage. Yeah, yeah,

772
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:31.559
sounds like something an idiot would have
for his luggage. That the same yeah,

773
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:38.119
combination of my luggage. I love
it. You know, that's why

774
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:42.719
we we were way past the joke, but I did want to point out

775
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:45.199
the whole beaming thing and how he's
like this time I'll walk and then it's

776
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:50.880
like the next remote right right exactly. Yeah, that's really funny. Yeah.

777
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:59.840
Yeah, that's like a good riff
on the storm Cheoper outfits here there,

778
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.000
I think so. Yeah. I
love too that the two guys are

779
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:09.480
like perfectly. They have the physique
like Barla John Candy physique and a Bill

780
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.079
Pullman physique. Yeah. I'm gonna
be honest, I didn't even think about

781
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:25.079
it. He's so right, you're
in the rest for illegal parking a giant

782
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:32.639
key. So funny. Yeah,
that's it's like kind of a cool evokes

783
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:36.880
Stormtroopers, but it's kind of it's
cool own design. I like it covers

784
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:46.079
the eyes. Yeah. Yeah.
I was reading somewhere that they used you

785
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:51.119
know, blue screen on this movie, but at the time, like people

786
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:53.559
were worried that it could hurt your
eyes. So in between takes, cast

787
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:59.960
and crew were wearing sunglasses. Wait, blue screen? Yeah is that funny?

788
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:04.800
But I mean blue screens have been
around, right, I mean I

789
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.840
don't know. I mean, yeah, that's just something I read what you

790
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.239
can imagine in the early days when
it's like you don't know, you're just

791
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:15.880
like, I don't know, Like
it's pretty striking. This. I have

792
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:19.199
to say that nobody knows things like
that. This was the movie that introduced

793
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.639
me to that as the thing that
you sing when you're stuck in prison.

794
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:27.000
Totally, totally, so I make
sure to whenever I'm in prison, I

795
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.920
make sure to sing that song.
Right. And it's funny like hearing her

796
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:39.880
deep voice and it's good kid,
jim See, it's perfect, just like

797
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:53.239
Star Wars enough to evoke I forgot
too, Like it's funny because it started

798
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:57.000
kicking in my head even though it
hasn't happened yet that there's actually like a

799
01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:00.920
theme that plays during the action in
this space deals. Yeah that's right,

800
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:14.239
do do do do? Like?
Yeah? This is like so like old

801
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:16.440
school and it's like a guy in
his underwear, like here's boxer shorts.

802
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:22.440
You know, he just had his
uniform ticket from him, right, but

803
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:25.960
even when you think about it,
even like the lasers, they all like,

804
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:30.039
it looks correct, it looks great. Yeah, you know, like

805
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:36.880
that stuff that if you're it's weird, how like you have to sort of

806
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.599
buy the reality of this world,
even though it is a satirical world.

807
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:46.119
Ryan. So the fact that they
did go to ilm to do the effects

808
01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:51.320
like that, that ended up paying
dividends, I think in terms of the

809
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:57.800
movie being perceived as as more credible, if that makes any sense. That's

810
01:03:57.800 --> 01:03:59.920
a good joke right here, by
the way, I was just gonna say

811
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.920
laser beams and linking to the exactly
it gets so like looney Tunes. But

812
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.280
what's funny is what I was saying
earlier, where it's like the lighting,

813
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:09.920
like they didn't overlight it, like
sometimes you see comedies and it's just so

814
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:12.960
bright. It's like, hey,
comedy, like just trying to lighten the

815
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:16.519
moody. But this is filmed and
lit like you know, like an action

816
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.119
film. And so when you get
that ridiculous joke of the lasers going through

817
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:25.320
those tubes, like it's funnier because
you're seeing that in a setting where that

818
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:29.480
shouldn't. By the way, this
this right here this is iconic, iconic.

819
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:38.840
Oh and what's his name there?
Yeah, it's it's it's the the

820
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:48.719
groundog day guy. Oh dude,
I can't believe this is what's what's his

821
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:55.519
name? I know I could say
ed Ryerson, but like that's Tablowski Tobalowski.

822
01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.440
There you go, Stephen Tobalowski.
Yes, you captured their stunt doubles.

823
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:05.960
Great joke. It's like a princess
best buzz, like so good.

824
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:12.800
Can you just see them in the
room writing that. It's like, well,

825
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:14.840
they capture them, like how do
they get out? It's like they

826
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:25.960
captured their stunt doubles, you know. Like great joke. With apologies to

827
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.079
Stephen Tobolski. I know he's gonna
listen to this with just a single tear

828
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:36.199
rolling down his cheek. This is
funny. I remember thinking this was funny

829
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:45.679
too, her sort of going on
Swartz nigger and everyone's flying away, don't

830
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:58.719
mess with their hair. Yep.
So this was This movie came out in

831
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:04.000
in July of or rather June of
eighty seven, and eighty seven was packed.

832
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.920
Really eighty seven's kind of yeah,
tell me, tell me, I

833
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:10.960
can never I can always be like, oh eighty eight. Yeah, this

834
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:14.039
eighty nine this, but I can't
think of eighty seven besides like three minute

835
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.199
a Baby eight. Wow, I
wouldn't have thought of that, to be

836
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:20.639
honest. Eighty seven just just off
the top of my well, there's Dragnet,

837
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:26.239
Brian, I think we've established that. But RoboCop was that summer,

838
01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:33.679
The Intouchables was that summer. Superman
four, Masters of the Universe. There's

839
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:36.760
more, but those are the one, yeah, weirdly, the other one

840
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:40.599
I think of his Secret of My
Success another one where it's like, I

841
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:42.760
don't know why, that's the one
that comes to my head. But yeah,

842
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.559
right, La Bambo was that summer? Okay, Okay, I definitely

843
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:50.440
remember that good year. And of
course Jaws the Revenge. Can't forget,

844
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:59.519
I can't forget, right right right? Yeah. Interesting when I look at

845
01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:04.880
like the top box office hits for
summer of eighty seven, number one was

846
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:11.239
Beverly Hills Cop to Beverly Hills Cop
Two, which made one hundred and fifty

847
01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:15.000
three million dollars in nineteen eighty seven
dollars, and wow, that is bananas,

848
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:23.360
and then Spaceballs is way down at
number fourteen. Okay, just underneath

849
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:30.719
Brian, the Secret of My Success
Hey there you go. Yeah. Wow,

850
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.719
kind of an interesting actually, Like
I'm just I'm looking at this list

851
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:39.239
and it's like preda all Predator was
that summer else? I do, of

852
01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:43.679
course, right? Uh, snow
White was re released Full Metal Jacket.

853
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:47.079
I definitely remember that too, The
Living Daylights. I think I can't remember

854
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:53.719
if I mentioned Rock San Revenge of
the Nerds too. Wow, what a

855
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:57.239
weird lost Boys, Harry and the
Henderson's. Wow. This is making sense

856
01:07:57.239 --> 01:07:59.280
to me though, because a lot
of the movies you're saying that are now

857
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:02.280
staples from me, Predator and all
that RoboCop and all that. I was

858
01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:05.199
too young for those movies at the
time, so I don't think I equate

859
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:12.320
them with that moment like they I
equated later or something. By the way,

860
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.039
we got a COFKA joke in there, right, because the Mega made

861
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:21.920
metamorphosis, Yes, definitely. Oh
yeah, what you didn't Brian when you

862
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:27.319
were eight? But yes, I
remember thinking this was hilarious. I guess

863
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:29.960
you do get a little bit of
a death Star here, its own version

864
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:35.479
of it, right, the spaceballs
the ship turns into Mega made. Look

865
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:39.319
at how proud he was after that
when he looked away from the Timpani player.

866
01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:43.119
I'm serious. I think he might
be the secret MVP of this movie.

867
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:47.520
He is so good. I think
a lot of the jokes land because

868
01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:53.640
of his delivery. Absolutely, yes, yeah, yep. Now they're gonna

869
01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:56.359
suck all the air out of you
idiot. That's a good plot. You

870
01:08:56.399 --> 01:08:58.600
know, let's get this bubble around
it, which seemed like, oh,

871
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.680
that's you know, like a lot. But then Rogue one did it right,

872
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:05.880
put a whole shield around the planet. Ah, yeah, there there

873
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:10.720
you go. Maybe maybe that's they
got their inspiration from this. Yeah.

874
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:17.399
I don't know if that was intentional, but when they're sucking all this stuff

875
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:23.199
of the mountain, it sort of
looked like the Paramount Mountain. Oh yeah,

876
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:30.039
I can't imagine that was my design. Yeah, it's like a funny

877
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:34.199
idea. Just as big handheld vacuum
cleaner taking it expand, the bag is

878
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:47.439
expanding with all the oxygen from the
planet. That's pretty good. It's I

879
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:50.600
mean, going back to what we
were saying earlier, Like, I know

880
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:55.520
mel Brooks was like disappointed that that, you know, the big names he

881
01:09:55.640 --> 01:10:00.640
wanted didn't do this movie, but
like who else, you know, Bill

882
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:08.840
puls he offered it to Tom Hanks, and Tom Hanks did Dragnet instead,

883
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:14.039
So although I can kind of picture
Tom Hanks like eighties Tom Hanks, I

884
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:17.479
can see it. It would be
different, though the characterization would be very

885
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:21.399
like because I think, I think
what works with Pullman is that he has

886
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:27.760
leading man like classic sort of action
hero looks, you know what I mean?

887
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:30.600
No, you know, I I
think you're right, you're right,

888
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:32.960
because he is funny. He does
the comedy well, but yeah he is

889
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:38.439
like leading man forward, you know, like in roguish and handsome, and

890
01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:43.119
so you kind of got the best
of everything with him, right because because

891
01:10:43.159 --> 01:10:45.960
Tom Hanks, especially at that time, was like the goofy guy, like

892
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:48.399
that's what he was known as.
Yeah, you're right, you're right.

893
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:57.479
He would have been a little more
comedian ish because because Pullman is essentially doing

894
01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:06.680
a riff on Hanslo but funny here, yeah, yeah, right. Going

895
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:13.640
into the year, Oh boy,
this is like a random thing I had

896
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:16.600
written down and before I forget,
but I guess mel Brooks for Yogurt wanted

897
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:21.680
Jean Wilder. I can see that
me too. I was like, oh,

898
01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:28.159
I can picture that, he can
picture his sort of that unique sort

899
01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:30.840
of soft delivery he had with like
a little bit in his eye. Did

900
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:36.199
Gene Wilder just not want to do
it? No? His quote Brooks's quote

901
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:41.399
was if Jean Wilder hadn't abandoned me
to do his own movies. So I

902
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:43.600
think it's kind of like, oh, you know, of course, good

903
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:46.960
for him, but I miss I
miss my friend. Gotcha, Yeah,

904
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:55.119
I can leave. This sounds good, doesn't it. That's yeah, I

905
01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:58.560
mean well, and not just that, I mean this is we talk about

906
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.800
how how how strenuously it sticks to
Star Wars. I mean, it's doing

907
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:08.319
something totally different at this point.
Yep, this is the Death Star trench

908
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:12.600
run or whatever, you know,
right, but going along with what we

909
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:16.760
were saying earlier too, where it
looks like the movies it's trying to be

910
01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:19.960
versus a comedy. I mean,
like, I think something that's helped is

911
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:24.039
that the visual effects too, don't
take you out of the movie. They

912
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:26.800
look so good that you're just like, okay, like you know what I

913
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:30.039
mean, Like you're kind of helps
you to get invested in the actual plot

914
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:35.479
of it instead of that feeling silly
too. You know, it's interesting because

915
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:42.520
because it does feel like this was
kind of I mean, mel Brooks stuck

916
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:46.239
around, he made he made more
movies after this, But like this style

917
01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:55.199
of humor which was probably deemed you
know, kind of you know, it

918
01:12:55.760 --> 01:13:00.039
was rebellious at the time, but
it almost felt a little outdated when compared

919
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:05.239
with sort of the naked Gun style
just like a year later. Sure,

920
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:10.680
sure, right, because because like
now we sort of put this in the

921
01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:14.399
same column as the Naked Gun,
but their their approaches are very different.

922
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:18.760
Yeah, definitely, right, And
and I think and and then arguably Naked

923
01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:23.119
Gun, which you know, hotshots, is part of that same thing that

924
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:27.279
then led to sort of this this
vein of comedy, which now we end

925
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:32.520
up with a Freeberg and Seltzer and
that whatever those guys do. Yeah,

926
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:36.279
And you know, I was just
listening to a screenwriting podcast the other day

927
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:40.800
and Paul Fiek was on it,
and they were talking about like movies like

928
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:42.960
Spy and they're like, you know, like a parody of Bond films,

929
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:45.680
because well, I want to point
out that it's not a parody, you

930
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:46.840
know, it's like I like Bond
movies and I want to make a type

931
01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:50.359
of Bond movie. And he was
basically saying that like parody to him was

932
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:53.920
almost like a dirty word, and
I was like, oh, how sad,

933
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:59.600
Like good parodies are fantastic, you
know, right, yeah, but

934
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:04.159
I mean I think to that point, yeah, like is Austin Powers a

935
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:09.079
parody of James Bond? Like is
this just about the terminology we're using?

936
01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:12.439
Yeah, maybe that's the It was
sort of like Christopher guess how he doesn't

937
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.239
like the word mockumentary, you know, so like maybe it's like I don't

938
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:21.359
want to reduce airplane, naked Guns, spaceballs to just one word, right,

939
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:26.079
whatever that style is. I do
miss the good version of it,

940
01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:29.920
right, you know yeah, I
mean well to that point, like Airplane

941
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:33.479
was before this, yes, and
that's one of the funniest movies ever made.

942
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:40.000
But it's not a mel Brooks style
movie, right right, you know?

943
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.840
Yeah, but but there there's there
you could say there are similarities,

944
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:46.720
you know, and like, yeah, situational sort of things that happen in

945
01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:51.119
like a serious setting and riffing on
a movie. I mean Airplane is like

946
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:56.520
a riff on whatever that old movie
is. Yeah, at the zero hour,

947
01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:59.640
I think, yeah, yeah,
but you're but but but different styles

948
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:01.239
and different voices for sure, you
know, Like I just I just wish

949
01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:05.479
we we kind of had geniuses that
were still speaking that language. I think

950
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:09.960
that would be that's Oh, by
the way, this the whole bit with

951
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:14.359
how you have to put the ring
in front of your dong totally missed me

952
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:16.479
when I was a kid. Yeah, no, no me. I mean

953
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.520
I knew it was funny because they
were doing it, but I don't think

954
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:23.720
I really thought about it, you
know, like, yeah, I mean

955
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:28.520
it. I was completely clueless.
I had no idea what made that funny

956
01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:42.960
until right these this good sabor effects
yep, killing you can hear the music.

957
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.399
Yeah, he did it, So, I mean, that's that's funny.

958
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:54.039
I was just watching something the other
day where they're pointing at a crew

959
01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:56.600
member. Oh I was. I
think we were talking about Wayens World two,

960
01:15:57.399 --> 01:15:59.319
you know, and they switched the
actor out and then like a crew

961
01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:01.600
member comes into the movie. But
yeah, those sort of jokes always get

962
01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:15.239
me. It's just hilarious. I
got my shorts twisted. It's good because

963
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:20.000
mel Brooks after this, Like I'm
trying to think about what are like the

964
01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:23.479
big movies he did after this,
I mean, men in Tights, But

965
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.880
that was I feel like there's something
in between this and Men in Tights.

966
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:32.199
Right, he did some movie Life
Stinks or something, right, which I

967
01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:36.039
don't know that I've seen, but
I don't think it's a riff on anything

968
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:45.560
like, it's just a okay and
then yeah, Robin Hood, like yeah,

969
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:51.199
Robin Hood is another example. Life
Stinks was nineteen ninety one, okay,

970
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:55.880
and then Men in Tights was nineteen
eighty three. Men in Tights,

971
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.000
I know for a fact, was
not particularly well regarded when it came out.

972
01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:01.359
Yeah, it's one of those things
with the age where you appreciate how

973
01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:05.079
good we had it. I think
I find it hilarious. Yeah, you

974
01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:08.079
know what I mean for others.
I loved it when it came out.

975
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:12.680
Yeah, right, But I mean
that's it's kind of the same thing with

976
01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:15.239
Spaceballs though, right, like where
it's is it just that now that people

977
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.359
like. My point is I haven't
seen some kind of effort to reclaim you

978
01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:23.640
know, Dracula dead and loving it. Nobody's staying their neck out for that

979
01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:30.319
one. Right. Yeah. This
this, this like totally cracked hup as

980
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.439
a kid here there. Oh,
I can't believe you bought it, man,

981
01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:42.399
you want it back? Whoop?
This is the best line of all

982
01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:48.960
time because good is dumb. Now
you see why evil will always triumph because

983
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:53.680
good is dumb. This is hilarious
too, by the way, where he's

984
01:17:53.720 --> 01:17:57.199
just doing the flips and everything.
That's that's really funny too. There's a

985
01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:00.199
date dated reference, too bad.
This isn't the Wide World of Sports,

986
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:06.039
right, that's like pre ESPN.
It must have been, right, you

987
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:10.399
know, where you like, maybe
for an hour on Saturday, there'd be

988
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:13.960
a sports recap show called The Wide
World of Sports. Now we got a

989
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:24.600
whole network, or five of them. There's a few. Yeah, say

990
01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:29.359
good bye to your two best friends. That's another funny one. I don't

991
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:33.039
know if I got that really well. Now like caught it. You're two

992
01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:44.720
best friends. Thank you for pressing
the self destruct button. This is where

993
01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:48.359
the song kicks in, right,
that's right? Yeah, well, how

994
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:51.640
are we Paris that that joke?
I think I say that all the time.

995
01:18:54.439 --> 01:19:00.840
That's specific siren, You know,
that's really funny. That's one of

996
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:04.600
those jokes too, where it's like
it's irreversible, like my raincoat. Like

997
01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:09.840
that's one of those jokes where if
I will laugh and someone will be like,

998
01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:11.880
why are you laughing at that?
And I'll be like, I don't

999
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:16.079
know, like it sounds funny,
like like my raincoat, Like it's just

1000
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:21.039
he's so sincere and saying it like
I don't even know if it is that

1001
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:28.359
funny on its face, but it's
hilarious the execution. And then there's this

1002
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:30.039
whole world going on on the ship. It's so big. You have these

1003
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:38.319
people from the circus and tumblers and
people running around in a panic. Oh

1004
01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:41.439
man, by the way, the
oh yeah, go ahead, you go

1005
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.079
first. I was just real quick, like I was. I was thinking

1006
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:49.920
about how Robin Hood men in tights, you know, Bill Pullman and carry

1007
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:56.199
always kind of doing something similar.
Yeah. Yeah, they sort of have

1008
01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:59.000
to react to everything happening around them, and I think that's what makes them

1009
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:02.039
funny here, you know. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about this.

1010
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:09.359
The pods and the those now those
pods sequences, the eject those are actually

1011
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:13.239
from Star Wars. They weren't used. Oh that's cool. They look great,

1012
01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:15.239
I mean obviously. Yeah, that's
why it's like they were just sitting

1013
01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:19.439
in a drawer like that right there. That's you know, from the beginning

1014
01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:23.760
of Star Wars. That blends right
in. Yeah, i'd read the way

1015
01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:28.279
they did that was they just the
camera had the camera like facing down towards

1016
01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:30.239
the ground and they just dropped the
things through the shoot. But you know,

1017
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:34.279
with the lighting and the perspective,
it looks like they're being propelled out.

1018
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:43.720
That's brilliant. Yeah, I remember
that line being edited on television because

1019
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:45.079
I think I had this recorded off
of TV, so I have that sort

1020
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:49.279
of unique experience with certain movies where
I know the TV version. Yeah,

1021
01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:56.479
this is so definitely kind of fair
trying to put his paws together like a

1022
01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:10.560
seat fill. That joke's evergreen,
Zachie, that joke's always funny. I

1023
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:14.479
love the way that they go to
the three seven staircases here too. Yeah,

1024
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:19.760
cancelation. But so this woman who's
doing the self destruct count down voice,

1025
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:25.479
she's the script supervisor, Julie pitt
Cannon. I worked with her get

1026
01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:29.159
out of here. Yeah, And
someone told me one day even yeah,

1027
01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:31.039
even the future. In other words, I just don't want to talk to

1028
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:33.239
word. This is so funny,
Like I just love that. This is

1029
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:35.479
like the stuff that cracks you up
when people hold each other like that,

1030
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:42.520
like sort of three Stooges style on
that she misses seven Just kidding, Yeah,

1031
01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:46.159
just kidding. Yeah, But anyway, I worked on a movie called

1032
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:49.159
Lucky You and she was a script
supervisor and someone pointed out, yeah,

1033
01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:53.199
she's the voice at the end of
Spaceballs because she worked on that. So

1034
01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:55.479
I went up to her and I
was talking to her about it was really

1035
01:21:56.119 --> 01:22:00.439
surreal. That's so random, like
just just she was there. So they

1036
01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:04.039
had her do it. I guess
maybe she did it on set being the

1037
01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:08.199
script supervisor and they're like, hey, that voice is perfect. Yeah,

1038
01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:16.640
wow, good explosion too. By
the way, well they they put those

1039
01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:23.880
money into the special effects. So
you wait, Okay, had you seen

1040
01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:30.199
Planet of the Apes yet? So
I had not seen the movie, but

1041
01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:35.680
I knew of it and I knew
how it ended. However, yeah,

1042
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:42.920
I definitely did not see the movie
until probably at least two years after I

1043
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:48.399
watched this. Yeah this right here, the he got trapped in his limo,

1044
01:22:48.520 --> 01:23:02.640
he ate himself to death. Pizza
that ate himself to death? Oh

1045
01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:10.199
yeah, yeah, I remember this
being really funny. Yeah, had five

1046
01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:15.560
happened yet? No? That's yeah, that's because Rocky five was nineteen ninety

1047
01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:18.720
mm hmm okay, so that would
have been next. Yeah. Yeah,

1048
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:30.920
yeah, it's funny. That's a
pretty good Matt painting. I was about

1049
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:33.680
to say, I was like,
hey, that looks like planet what's a

1050
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:40.319
planet alder On like we see in
the Yeah, the prequels. Yeah,

1051
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:43.560
I mean it's probably the thing I've
repeated myself most on this, but I'm

1052
01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:48.520
as I'm studying this movie watching it, like I'm just appreciating the visual effect

1053
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:51.880
or special effects like I never I
guess I didn't really thought about them until

1054
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:56.359
now, But it's they really go
a long way and selling the film in

1055
01:23:56.479 --> 01:24:00.159
the comedy. Well it it it
good gets to what we've been talking about

1056
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:04.239
a lot, which is sort of
the ramshackle, thrown together nature of some

1057
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:09.159
of these parodies that are made these
days. You know. Yeah, so

1058
01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:11.680
like, oh, it's not the
Hunger by Did you see the Millennium Falcon?

1059
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:14.319
Yeah, I was going to point
that out. Yeah, outside the

1060
01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:17.159
diner you can see the millennium falcon. That's right. But when yeah,

1061
01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:19.199
when you do like, hey,
we're not doing the hunger Games, We're

1062
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:24.800
doing the starving games. Get it, You're like, oh boy, you're

1063
01:24:24.840 --> 01:24:28.039
in for some rough sledding over the
next ninety minutes. You know. Right

1064
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:34.199
now, now this joke right here
with with John Hurt. I think what

1065
01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:41.239
makes it extra funny to me is
that they cast Oh I guess we haven't

1066
01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:44.680
got gotten there yet, but like
they cast people who look like the Nostromo

1067
01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:48.199
crew, right, And it's one
of those things where you're kind of like,

1068
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:51.840
is that like you know, you
can kind of right there in the

1069
01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:56.600
back you kind of see you know
what I mean, Like they set up

1070
01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:00.760
the joke, well, yes,
yeah, and especially because your eyes are

1071
01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:05.880
trained on Hurt, that's right,
you know, so they look everyone's surrounding

1072
01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:14.560
him resembles see now now this I
had seen Alien by this time. See

1073
01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:17.520
I probably hadn't. I probably was
just like, what is happening? Yeah,

1074
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:20.239
I was gonna ask, like to
me, I got the joke,

1075
01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:24.159
and I thought it was hilarious because
I was like, that's the guy from

1076
01:25:24.239 --> 01:25:28.399
Alien, like I knew that.
I definitely didn't know that. Yeah,

1077
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.560
but I didn't even know what they
were riffing on. Like I just this

1078
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:34.439
was another speaking of like sort of
cheeky humor when you're a kid and feeling

1079
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:39.119
like, oh, I'm saying something
I shouldn't like. This sort of wrote

1080
01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:41.520
that line a little bit for me
too, where I was like I'm watching

1081
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:45.920
a comedy, but this is like
making like this is scaring me, you

1082
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:46.760
know what I mean. So I
was like, but but like you were

1083
01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:51.399
still sort of fascinated and intrigued by
it. And then it gets so silly

1084
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:55.199
with the Aliens singing. I'm like, I'm horrified, but he is making

1085
01:25:55.279 --> 01:26:00.119
me laugh, you know, Like
it was like a weird sensation. So

1086
01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:05.479
at this point you had no idea
of what Alien was. No, okay,

1087
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:09.760
no, so then when you watched
Alien, because you didn't watch Alien

1088
01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:13.520
until a while later. Yeah,
I mean, I'm sure I became aware

1089
01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:16.119
of the moment, Okay, you
know at some point, but yeah,

1090
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:19.760
I didn't see Alien until much later. Like I feel like we saw it

1091
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:23.920
together in like two thousand and three. Yeah, yeah, in the theater.

1092
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:27.359
Yeah, but i'd seen Aliens weirdly, I'd seen that one already,

1093
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:31.279
like I saw Older. So when
you got an Alien, when you got

1094
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:34.680
to that scene when John Hurt has
that, were you like, oh,

1095
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:40.199
that's the same, it's him,
you know, Like did you connect those

1096
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:43.760
dots or did you already know?
I'm certain I was aware of the moment

1097
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:46.199
already, but I don't think I
probably didn't even put it together that they

1098
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:50.399
got the actual actor. Okay,
and by the way, this is one

1099
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:55.640
of those things. I don't know
if they fixed it later or letterboxing or

1100
01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:00.720
but with the little alien going down
the counter used to be able to see

1101
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:01.920
the track, do you remember that. Yeah, that's right, kind of

1102
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:06.439
like Pewe's Big Adventure where you could
see the chain going through the oh right,

1103
01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:10.800
the thing at the bottom of his
bike. But they've since fixed that.

1104
01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:18.479
But yeah, now it's good,
good joke. Now I get it

1105
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:29.840
turned down the money, but you
see, it's still kind of a folk

1106
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:30.960
Star Wars with Han and the money, you know what I mean, Like,

1107
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:45.479
yeah, the fortune cookie. I
forgot about the cookie. By the

1108
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.640
way, I should say that that
the whole joke about barf being like chewy

1109
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:54.079
barf, Like I never made that
connection until much later. Oh wow,

1110
01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:59.079
I not till now. For me, it's what you do because barf it's

1111
01:27:59.079 --> 01:28:01.119
such like a gross word thing.
But when I see barf from like,

1112
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:09.359
oh, barf, like I complete, yeah exactly. But yeah, but

1113
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:13.199
yeah, this this whole sort of
you know, him having to be a

1114
01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:17.640
prince so he can marry the princess. I'm a prince. I'm an honesty,

1115
01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:27.720
goodness, prince or whatever. He
says, Yeah, I forget about

1116
01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:33.239
the other fuel thing, and it
doesn't he do, like though, Yeah,

1117
01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:40.920
what world be with you? Like
the witch? Right? Yeah,

1118
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:46.680
what a world? What a world? Yeah, which Judge dooone does too

1119
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:51.319
when he melts, he says,
what a world. He says he's doing

1120
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:55.840
the Yeah, like the witch thing, I know he's doing on a world

1121
01:28:55.880 --> 01:29:08.079
I didn't realize. He says that. That's yeah, I'm pretty sure that's

1122
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:12.720
getting through the John Candy also like, I mean, gosh, we've we've

1123
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:15.039
talked about him and yeah, I'm
going talked about him. We have talked

1124
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:17.960
about him very much in this.
Yeah, I mean, uh, it's

1125
01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:24.199
he makes it look so effortless,
right, Yes, it doesn't have to

1126
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:26.560
do a ton, but you can
always count on him to get you to

1127
01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:29.760
laugh. You know. Man,
he's just one of those guys effortless,

1128
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:34.199
that is exactly it. Yep,
just his his chuckles, you know,

1129
01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:38.359
like kind of he's a guy who's
a twinkle in his eye, you know,

1130
01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:43.479
just you cannot help but love him, that's right. So yeah,

1131
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:46.319
scag. Like. The great thing
about this is that at the time it

1132
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:51.439
was relatively current because the original Planet
of the Apes was only nineteen years old

1133
01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:58.560
at that time. Whoa right,
like it was it wasn't that old,

1134
01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:03.079
you know. Wow? What was
that two thousand and four to today?

1135
01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:10.960
M yeah, wow crazy? Right, yeah, so it was it was

1136
01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:15.920
within people's frame of reference. Definitely
for me at the time I saw this

1137
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:21.640
movie like I hadn't seen because my
first when I watched The Planet Planet of

1138
01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:26.359
Apes the film for the first time, I had watched the cartoon show that

1139
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:30.720
was my entree and I saw that
like Fall of eighty seven, So I

1140
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:35.880
probably saw this and then shortly after
I saw the cartoon h that's my my

1141
01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:41.239
recollection. So either way, the
end of the movie of Planet Apes would

1142
01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:46.279
have been ruined for me by this, right right, yeah? I man,

1143
01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:49.000
I wish I could remember if I
got it or not. I don't

1144
01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:51.960
know. It was just funny because
it was so like, oh, they

1145
01:30:53.039 --> 01:30:56.439
landed on a planet of apes and
they aren't happy to see them. But

1146
01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:59.039
I feel like you would have at
least heard a Planet of the Apes.

1147
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:03.720
Likely, it's likely, I don't
know. The makeup looks pretty good though,

1148
01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:09.159
right, I think so, it's
it's it's in the same vein as

1149
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:13.560
as some of the later films.
Yeah right, Holy moly. Yeah,

1150
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:18.760
it's kind of funny too that they
go with this sort of old fairy tale

1151
01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:21.279
look too, right, Yeah,
with all the people in the like,

1152
01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:25.760
it doesn't look very space like.
No, in this chapel, it's probably

1153
01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:29.560
cheaper to figure you know what.
You're totally right, they'd have to create

1154
01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:32.760
all the costumes. I did all
these costumes from about it from the storage

1155
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:40.239
locker. Yeah, well that's really
funny if you got to have a space

1156
01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:45.000
looking groom, and this is apparently
what they came up with, right space

1157
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:55.600
Elvis. Wait, we totally I'm
just looking at Candy and I heard it

1158
01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:58.520
in my head. We passed this
right, like I'm a mog, half

1159
01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:01.960
man, half dog, my own
that I'm my own best friend. Yeah,

1160
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:05.800
I love this here par follow you, Yes, that's right, that's

1161
01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:19.479
right part follow you, follow you
so great. Yeah. I feel like

1162
01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:21.520
this was kind of a thing for
a while too, like a trope with

1163
01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:26.960
like the officiant at a wedding getting
kind of short tempered and be like all

1164
01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:28.520
right, all right, all right, let's just get we gonna do this

1165
01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:31.119
thing or not. You I feel
like you're doing from this right, maybe

1166
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:34.720
yeah, I guess I think this
originated the trope. Yeah, but it's

1167
01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:36.720
like it was like a thing you
saw, all right, I feel like

1168
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:50.039
familiar with that. Sure, sure, goodbye virginal lamps. That it the

1169
01:32:50.399 --> 01:33:00.479
end? Wow? Wait, what's
his bumper sticker? It said, does

1170
01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:04.279
I break for nobody? Or something
that's on the space Ball ship? That's

1171
01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:09.159
it on this. I didn't pay
attention to the the bumper stickers on Spaceball

1172
01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:13.920
one. Yeah. Yeah, well
there you go. So what's the verdict,

1173
01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:19.159
my friend on Spaceballs? I mean, it's it's a classic. I

1174
01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:23.680
will always be endeared to this,
but you know, the nostalgia and everything,

1175
01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:26.319
But like I, to my mind, this still holds up. I

1176
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:30.520
think this would still make if your
kids were to have a sleepover having seen

1177
01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:33.520
Star Wars watched this together, I
can imagine them giggling through this whole thing.

1178
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:40.039
That's I think a lot of the
humor is timeless, some of it

1179
01:33:40.319 --> 01:33:44.800
is rooted in in that era.
But even even the stuff that is sort

1180
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:48.399
of temporarily locked down, I think
there's enough around the joke to make you

1181
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:55.359
laugh at the execution. Yeah.
Uh, and that certainly that was my

1182
01:33:55.479 --> 01:33:59.880
experience because I watched this not aware
of the lot of the pop culture references,

1183
01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:02.600
but right it it made me chuckle, made me chuckle, then made

1184
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:05.520
me chuckle now yep, even watching
it with the sound off, I mean,

1185
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:09.720
just cracks me out so many And
that's the thing too. Sometimes you

1186
01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:13.079
watch a comedy and you're sort of
waiting for like that one set piece gag.

1187
01:34:13.319 --> 01:34:15.600
You know, you kind of chuckle
throughout, but like, I feel

1188
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:20.279
like this has several iconic, big, big gags and then there's all this

1189
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:24.720
funny pattern in between that still you
know, makes you giggle. So I

1190
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:29.359
think your pound for pound, it's
a really solid comedy. I think that

1191
01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:35.479
it is certainly a throwback to a
style of movie humor who don't really see

1192
01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:41.920
very much of anymore, which is
a shame because because I think the fact

1193
01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:45.600
that it can still make you chuckle
so many decades out, you know,

1194
01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.840
that says something about what mel Brooks
was able to achieve and sort of his

1195
01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:59.640
his just innate skill at finding the
joke, finding the laugh. I think

1196
01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:01.399
that's something makes this movie hold up. You know, I would love to

1197
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:06.359
see deleted scenes. Oh yeah,
I don't. I don't have the DVD

1198
01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:12.359
or anything, but I'm curious if
there are any. The only other thing

1199
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:15.760
I'll mention is I'm at the I'm
on the Wikipedia page and it talks about

1200
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:20.880
John Hurt's cameo and it says he's
parodying his character Gilbert Caine's death in the

1201
01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:26.760
film Alien, and I'm like Gilbert. His first name is Gilbert. I

1202
01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:30.720
think I ever knew that. Yea, So there's an Actually, there's your

1203
01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:35.319
bonus trivia there. Yeah, with
that. If you have any thoughts about

1204
01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:41.079
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1205
01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:44.159
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1206
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:47.439
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01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:02.399
for me online, you can find
me on social media at Zechie's Corner,

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that z a k i s Corner, and I'm also at the SATs the

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Prodical we greet my reviews and write
ups, as well as at IGN and

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also the rap What About You Brian
episodes of Young Jedi Adventures are out in

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the in your universe. I don't
know where they're from, anyway, you

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can watch those at Disney Plus and
Disney Junior. Perfect and with that on

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behalf of my partner Brian Hall.
My name is Zachie As. This has

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been our movie film commentary for Spaceballs. Thank you everyone for listening and we

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will catch you next time. My
Steve face, don't mess around the Stay

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Small, don't last face, don't
mess around Stasball, don't watch the Stay Small

