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and seating. Don't throw up salaries
or other things. Get some facts and

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come back and seev you can't handle
the true I told our players you need

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a bit more like a dog.
We don't need a bunch of cats in

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here. Looking in the mirror,
I look good. I got my extra

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bands on, I got my other
shoes. Be a doll. We don't

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need no meals. We don't need
no cats. We need more dolls.

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Why you're not a detain Oh you're
not. At the time, we weren't

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good. There's no sense of asking
me things about the game. I'm telling

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you we laid an egg. So
I'm not gonna break it down for you.

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He sucks. He sucked. He
laid an egg. That's all I

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have to say. Guys, I'm
sorry. I'm not going to break it

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down for you. Nothing went well
for us. It's on us. We

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have to figure it out every way. Show it is showtime on a Thursday.

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Welcome on the ninth of May.
Myer hotline eight sixty six eight three,

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eight forty eight forty three had some
good calls so far. Here this

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morning really appreciate it. You add
to the show man and you really do.

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I like it when we get calls, Ben, don't you love it

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when you get calls that make you
think, oh, yeah, you know

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it's it really is the beauty of
what the show can bring. And same

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with tax in text Sports Radio to
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Bros. We're with you Monday through
Friday, six until nine. Jason Beck

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will join us to the bottom of
the hour. My good friend Dennis Fithian

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will be in this cheer tomorrow morning
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all those beautiful and great cities throughout
this state. If you missed it yesterday,

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and we'll talk with Jason Beck about
this coming up. Tigers lose in

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ten innings to the Guardians five to
four. I said earlier in the six

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o'clock hour, but we get different
listeners all the time. This is very

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similar to guarding an inbound pass.
I believe, what do you do in

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the tenth inning? Do you play
for the run and take the lead like

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the Tigers did not do in the
tenth inning last night. They wanted to

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play for a big inning. Javier
bayaz On a ground ball to short gets

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makes the out, the first out
of the inning, second third, whatever,

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okay, tagged by Jose Ramirez,
whatever, All right, So there's

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one out and that just diffuses everything. And then that allows Cleveland, knowing

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that all they need is to run, They're going to bunt their man over.

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Loreano's bunted to third and then driven
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dissenter. It's more than just what
took place in the tenth inning. It's

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what took place in the eighth inning, the throwing air by Jake Rogers,

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the ninth inning, the bad pitch
by Andrew Chaffin, and instead of a

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four to win, it's four three, it's four to four, and then

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it's a five to four walk off
win for Cleveland Detroit seven to eight.

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In one run games, the fifteen
to one run games the most played in

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Major League Baseball. They're a game
under five hundred and they host Houston.

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They host Houston in the first of
a three game weekend set tomorrow. Immediately

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when you think Houston, at least
I do. Anyway, you think hose

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L Tuove, Alex Brigman, Jordan
Alvarez. Scary team. They're twelve and

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twenty four, they've lost four in
a row. They are off to a

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horridzon start. It has to be
one of the biggest surprises in all of

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baseball. We'll talk to Jason Beck
of MLB dot Com at the bottom of

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the hour about that. Jeremy Paine
is a really good player, right,

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Ricky of the Year and so on
and so forth. It's having a good

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season so far. Kyle Tucker love
him, hell of a player. When

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you have jose L Tuve, your
Don Olivaaz, Jeremy Panya, Kyle Tucker,

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Alex Bregman, just to name a
few, you would expect to be

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better than with They are right now, last place in the Al West.

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Doesn't help that they had to designate
Josel Joseo Breu because of his struggles.

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But whatever, that's uh. That's
this weekend down a k America Park,

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Okay, New York beats. Indiana
won thirty to one twenty one. Jalen

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Brunson had twenty nine points and thirty
two minutes. He missed the entire second

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quarter injured. Oj Ananobi missed the
fourth quarter injured, but he had a

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career playoff high twenty eight. New
York's up two games to none. Nikola

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Jokic wins his third MVP in the
last four years in the NHL. Florida

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blows out Boston six to one.
Boston's defense so good against Toronto. They

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allowed just twelve goals in seven games. The reason they beat the Maple Leafs.

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Remember we sett in game six,
we said that Toronto, even though

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they're high scoring and really love their
talent of Taveres and Marner and Matthews and

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the like. He said, Okay, you're gonna have to win a more

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of a defensive game against Boston,
and Boston allowed his twelve goals in the

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seven games, they gave up six. The Bruins gave up six to Florida

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in Game two alone. It was
six to one, fight filled third,

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really good game until the third when
Florida just blew him out. Vancouver comes

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to three goals down to beat Edmonton
five to four. They scored three goals

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in five and a half minute Connor
Garland, that's the game winner. Those

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are your headlines in sports. Let's
go to the Meyer hotline. Who do

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we got waiting? Ben? We
got Maury and Grand Rapids? Maury,

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how are you? Thanks for listening
on the Max ninety six point ONEFM the

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game. What's going on? Shep? I'm doing great man, Thank you.

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I hope you're doing good as well, you know, listening to the

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Tiger Shep and you're talking. I
found myself thinking yesterday. I think it

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was I think the subject was brought
up in an article. Maybe I read

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about the possibility or you know,
tour Wiklson going down, And I asked

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myself, you know, how do
these guys, how do these managers and

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organizations? And I get it veries, okay, from organization to organization,

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but in this case, how are
they looking at a guy who, you

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know, man last year when you
have thirty one bombs and you know he

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was he had a good year and
he know he's not a rookie. I

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mean, I know he's a so
young guy, but I mean, what

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are your thoughts on that? Chev? Because they're such a poor hitting offensive

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team, and which befuddles me.
By the way, they didn't go for

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the run, you know, funt
and sacrifice and all that. You know,

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it seems like so tiger to do
that right now, but and by

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the way, the right thing.
But anyways, back to my question,

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do you what do you think about
that? What do they do with the

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guy like Torque? So first things
first, do you believe it was the

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right thing? Top of the tenth, you're on the road, you play

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for one run? Or do you
do you understand why they didn't? Okay,

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now, I play for the run
every time. You play for the

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run? Okay, all right,
So it's a difficult octically with our offense,

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man, especially with our offense,
and our pitching has been good.

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So anyways, yeah, that's for
sure. That's that's what I do.

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Yeah, no, I get it. I respect the opinion. I suppose

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one could argue, if your pitching
is that good, you wouldn't have to

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worry about that, you could go
for the multiple runs. What I do

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is, you know, I probably
for the multiple runs too, but I

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don't expect a veteran laden guy on
second base to get to make an out,

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you know. I mean, yeah, so that's a problem. What

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do you do with Spencer Torkels?
You do I think with what the Tigers

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are doing right now, and that's
moved him down in the order to take

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a little pressure off him. I
think what surprises me? And you're right,

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he had a really good year last
year, thirty one bombs, ninety

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four stakes. I'm not looking at
average. The on base is a little

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worrisome, There's no doubt about it. When you're on base just thirty one

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percent last year, that's a problem. I think what concerns me more than

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anything else is first of all,
the lack of power, so he doesn't

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have a homer yet. And second
of all the fastballs. He's not on

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the fastball and that's a problem.
And I don't know if he's up there

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guessing. I haven't talked to him
about it, so I don't know.

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Last year or the years before I
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it's a serious issue right now.
And this team, as I said earlier

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in the show, the margin for
error is so slight with this team.

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You can't have him going through elongated
slumps. They just can't afford it.

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No question. So you move him, you move him down in the order,

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do you do? You send him
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at first base and bring up who
justin Henry molloy. I don't think that

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should be out of the realm of
possibility. I wouldn't do it after thirty

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five games. He's only played thirty
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you're getting to the point now at
the end of this month. If it

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continues, absolutely you do it.
Thanks for the phone call. Awesome stuff.

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Appreciate it. Always respect the perspective. Eight six six eight three eight

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forty eight forty three. But I
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play This is Matt Sheppard after a series

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loss in Cleveland. The Tigers have
the day off and we'll ready themselves for

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a six game homestand starting Friday with
a three game weekend series against Houston.

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You can't argue with the pitching Detroit
has received so far. Except for one

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starter, kent To Maida, signed
to a two year deal in the offseason.

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Maeida has struggled so far and seven
stars. He's allowed a league high

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nine home runs, one just once
and possesses an ERA of just under seven.

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Seven starts isn't a big sample size
unless you look at his history.

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Last year, Maeta started just twenty
games. He hasn't started more than twenty

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six since his rookie season. In
other words, he's close to thirty three

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percent of his starts so far.
The numbers have to improve or it'll be

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Tigers dot Com Forward Slash Huge Show. A really good call from Maury.

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I really appreciate that too. We've
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I can't tell you how much it
means to us. I love the interaction

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first and foremost, but second of
all, you just bring up really good

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conversation and you bring up really good
topics, So I thank you for that.

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You can call anything that might be
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eight sixty six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. The only thing I

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would say is this, and I
understand where Morey's coming from. At A

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one, we're going to go back
to certain guys. You're going to fall

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back on it. Maybe just maybe
people now feel like, all right,

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I'm tired of beating up bias because
I've done it for two years now.

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You know, he has not been
what you expected when you signed him as

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a free agent, and he's been
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I don't want to speak for moriy
there, but a lot of Tigers were

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like, Okay, it's a given. He's not a favorite. He's not

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going to be a favorite. He's
underperformed, he's been a disappointment. Now

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let's get to the next victim.
Torkulsen is that guy. And he's that

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guy because he's a one one and
because he's not a high average guy.

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The thirty one homers in ninety four
RBIs last year didn't convince you. I'm

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not saying you should be convinced.
I'm just telling you this is my thought.

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This is how I view it.
You don't view him as the next

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fill in the blank, whoever,
whoever is that really good first baseman who

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brings you power in the middle of
the lineupyard Don Alvarez. It's not Paul

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Goldschman. He's not Freddie Freeman,
he's not Matt Olsen. He's not that

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first baseman. Right, he's not
Bryce Harper. He's not going to be

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in your mind. Thirty one homers
is a lot of homers. I think

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it's pretty damn good. However,
he doesn't have any yet, and I

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think people look at the at bats
and say, you know what, he

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seems to be guessing a lot.
He seems to have a prevention to go

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through long slumps. You give Look, Riley Green doesn't have a high average

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either. He's been two fifty four, but he's got eight or nine homers.

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Right, You're not expecting Andy A. Bonnez to carry your team.

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It's a problem. He's got more
homers in a game than Torklosen does on

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the year. You've been pleasantly surprised
with Lensil Perez carry Carpenter. He's come

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up with some big, big knocks
over the last two years. Cole Keith,

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you give a free pass because he's
just starting his career. Zach McKinstry

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is a utility guy. I don't
mean to use that in an negative term,

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but he's not an everyday guy.
Mark Canna is not the future of

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the franchise. Parker Metals has been
sent down. Jake Drake Rodgers, you

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believe is a defensive guy, but
he's not an offensive guy. Spencer Torkosen

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was billed as an offensive guy who's
going to be a difference maker in the

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middle of your lineup, and he
hasn't been this year. I understand where

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you're coming from. I like him. I like him as an individual,

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I like him as a person,
I like him as a first baseman.

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I would keep trotting him out there, but even I have a limit,

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and it's getting dangerously close. Meyer
hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty

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eight forty three. I know we
got a Tiger's text, don't we been?

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Yeah, that's right. What's going
on says you know, the old

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saying you can't fire the players.
I would like to see Scott Harris finally

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make a big splash right or wrong. Fire aj Hinch and bring in new

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blood. I'm tired of watching old, stale baseball. Win one, lose

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three, win two, lose five, promote fetter to manager or bring in

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somebody else. Wow. Uh,
that's that's really drastic. Aj Hinch signed

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an extension. I just want you
to know. Aj Hinch signed an extension

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in the offseason. The previous deal
he had ran through next year. He

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signed an extension. So what that
extension is I can't completely recall, but

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he's going to be there at least
at least through twenty twenty six. Okay,

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so at least two more years you
want. I like Chris Fetter.

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Chris Fetter has never been a bench
coach. Being a pitching coach and being

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a bench coach and being a manager
three drastically different things. And I mean

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drastically different. It's like being a
guy on the assembly line, a guy

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driving the truck and the guy making
out the schedule, three completely different responsibilities.

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Chris Feedder works on his pitching staff
and his pitching staff alone. The

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bench coaches next to George Lombard is
next to aj Hinch all game. Aj

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Hinch is telling him what you're supposed
to be looking for. Who you have

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to get ready in the bullpen,
Who needs to start getting ready warming up

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for a possible pinch hit situation.
Who you think is going to be up

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in this situation? On why you
got to go to this pitcher? There

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are I can't begin to tell you
how many decisions a manager is making per

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inning and per that Chris Fetter is
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is not quite comfortable with for an
entire season. That is a very drastic

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tact, right there one that I
would not subscribe to. However, I

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understand your frustration because this team is
underperforming. Right now to the Meyer hotline,

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we go, who's up next?
Yeah, we got Paul and g

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R Paul. Good to hear from
you again. Thanks for listening right there

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on WAX ninety six point ONEFM,
The game. What's going on? Shut

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my friend? How are you great? What's going on? So, first

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of all, before I get into
my air and my grievances here because I'm

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very upset right now, age,
you look very blessed to have a J.

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Hinch. He's top free manager in
all of baseball, and he fell

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into our lab. You know,
he really is the reason why we like

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overperformed last year and it's twenty twenty
one. So, I mean, that's

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just astonin. I'm sorry. Like, we're very lucky to have Aja as

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our manager, and I signed him
to a lifetime extension of I did.

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I love it. So I think
he's I think he's a very good manager.

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Absolutely. I wouldn't go so far
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but I think he's one of the
better managers in the game. Is he

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top three? That's a really good
question. A really good debate because you've

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got some really good managers out there, but even really good managers, Bob

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Melvin's a hell of a manager,
but he has but his teams at times

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have struggled, Right, I mean, you could be manager of the Year

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and still get fired. You can
be coach of the Year Dwayne Casey and

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get fired. It happens, it
does, But I just think that's crazy

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because I really do think Ada is
really good. So I'm going right after

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guy one, after Scott Harris and
Chris Villich, especially Chris Ilich. Does

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he care like, does he even
want to win? Does he care about

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winning? And then Scott Harris,
I mean, yeah, he wanted time

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to evaluate this team. Blah blah
blah blah blah. You know what,

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I'm sick of it. I'm sick
and tired of it. It has been

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a decade. We haven't won a
World Series since nineteen eighty four. Like

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you said, that is unacceptable,
Chest and I am so sick of Oh

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well, our offseason consists of signing
ice cream truck drivers and to a bush

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Gardens tour guides that have been DA
made a million times and just hopefully find

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a diamond in the up like we
can't. We have not made any serious

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moves, and we had such an
opportunity this offseason to set ourselves apart from

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everybody else, and we didn't.
We did it. And you know what

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I'm putting, I don't care if
it's her two. I'm putting Scott Harris

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on the hot seat and I'm out. Kurtz Illach. I do not think

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he cares about the Red Wings or
the Tigers. I don't think he cares

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about winning. I think he cares
more about like parking lot revenues than he

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does anything. And I am I'm
just so sick of it. Yeah,

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but listen, Paul, I completely
understand where you're coming from because they haven't

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given you any indication to think otherwise. So it's hard to disagree with that.

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It really is. I mean,
when your payroll is what the Tiger's

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pay roll is, especially after saving
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I completely understand where you're coming from. I do Scott Harris. I'm going

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to wait one more year, but
I was disappointed he didn't get the big

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bat for the middle of the lineup, so I think he failed in that

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regard. Jason Beck will talk about
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now to talk Tigers and Major League
Baseball. Jason, hope you and your

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family are well. Good to visit
with you as always. Really appreciate the

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time because I know you're busy.
What's your take on this team? Thirty

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seven games in, knowing full well
that it's too small of a sample size

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to come to a complete judgment.
Yeah, you know, looking in now

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from where we were in string training
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I suppose that, you know,
it kind of looks like how we

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suspect it. You know, the
pitching is better than I think we expected

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coming in, and yeah, I
think we expected a lot there. You

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know, Schoogle looks like the ing
candidate that there was some buzz about.

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Flaherty looks like he's figured some things
out and looked like a frontline starter again.

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You know, you've got a very
good or Jason going your resource and

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has been fantastic even though he hasn't
really been rewarded for it, aside from

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my eight of struggles. You know, there's a lot to like there.

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The bullpen, you know, it's
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lately after a good start. But
the question really is the offense, and

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you see signs of breakthroughs, but
it's up and down. You know,

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the eleven run performance the other night
was, you know, match the total

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runs they had scored in the previous
five games combined, and in the game

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before that, before that five game
eleven run stretch, you know, they

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had also scored eleven. So you
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You know, there's a capability to
really work pitchers. Even yesterday you

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saw it where you know, they
were Canter Biby for forty four pitches in

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that four r and in and inning, and then they couldn't get anything else

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going once Cleveland went to the bullpen. So it's you know, it's an

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up and down. It's a young
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win with their strengths while trying to
you know, kind of do what they

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can with these growth areas. Why
wasn't the offense You and I talked about

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this at the end of last season. Why wasn't the offense addressed in the

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off season? Besides or Shell on
a one year deal and Canna on a

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one year deal. What should have
been done there? Or are you satisfied

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with those two moves to increase an
offense that needed I think more punch.

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I think they wanted to try to
figure out some things with some of the

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younger hitters, and they felt like
this was the year to do it.

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Rather than having those guys getting either
part time playing time, we're spending more

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time in the minor leagues. I
also think that it wasn't a great free

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agent market, and I think that
kind of boards up out with some of

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the guys who ended up lingering out
there. Now, could they have done

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something you know, later on in
the off season or during sprint training,

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Well, they kind of did with
Urgella, you know, once he was

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out there for you know, relatively
easy one year deals, they took the

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shots. Could they have done something
similar with the JD. Martinez? Yeah,

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they could have that. You know, you can debate where that would

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have been a good option. But
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to that point in the off season
with those guys to where they're available on

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one year deals, I think it, you know, their choices become a

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lot more you know, plentiful as
far as you know where they can go,

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but also where they want to go. It's like, Okay, if

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JD's going to a one year deal, does he want to come here where

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the playing time might not be quite
so guaranteed, or would he rather go

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to, you know, the Mets
or some other clubs that might be closer

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or might be closer to a playoff
spot even in a tougher division, but

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also might be able to guarantee more
playing time where he could use that as

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a platform year. So yeah,
I wasn't even thinking. I wasn't even

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thinking JD Martinez just because he's a
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I was thinking more along the lines
of a Matt Chapman like Detroit couldn't

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have done three years fifty four million
dollars like he got in San Francisco,

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but perhaps Detroit would have had to
overpay for something like that. And let's

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face that these guys want to go
to a winning team. I still think

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Detroit could be that winning team in
this division. Jason Beck joins us here

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on x'es and bros. He of
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on x at Beck Jason Matt Manning
was a little bit of a surprise to

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me to be sent to Toledo.
I think I know the reason why when

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you signed Jack Flaherty and Ken to
Maida. It's going to squeeze somebody.

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So it came down to Casey Miz, it came down to Reese Olsen,

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and it came down to Matt Manning. He has handled it rather professionally.

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At what point, Bill, do
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to ma Ata suddenly gets injured with
uh, you know, a sore shoulder,

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some type of blister or whatever the
case may be. Because my ATA

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through seven games has not been very
good. I mean, I don't think

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anything like that imminent. For one
thing, MLB has been ringing cracking down

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on those phantom injury type things.
Uh you know, you know we saw

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we saw that in New York where
you know it's that call somebody their job

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and costumer suspension. So you know
something I got to get creative. That's

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that's not going to happen. So
I think we're waiting for you know,

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well they do something performance wise.
That's tricky because like you know, for

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one thing, Kantis track record shows
you kind of have to wait it out

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with him for him to figure things
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guy who's had strong starts to seasons, so once you sign him, you're

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you're pretty much committed to kind of
waiting for him to may things and to

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look like he was on that path
until the other night were just really just

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look arguably his worst start this season, so you know, you wait to

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see what happens there, and he
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you know there's going to be an
opening. Honestly, it's kind of surprising

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that they haven't had some sort of
opening aside from double headers already this season,

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given you know, in previous years
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eight or something like that by now, and they've generally been able to roll

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with the current five, you know, plus one for double headers. So

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you know, the the odds and
the injury hittories, histories with pitchers.

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tell you something's going to come up
where they're going to need somebody, and

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he's in line right now, and
you know these things tend to come in

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bunches, So I think you waited
out and see what happened. But you're

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also going to have innings to watch
with some of these guys. You know,

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Reese Olsen did not have a full
use last year, even though he

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did get a pretty good innings total
under his belt. Yo, Casey Mies

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hadn't bitched in two years until out. You know, it would shuck me

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if at some point you've got to
either give him a break or maybe stretch

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authorization, you know, to give
mad a starter to and give him a

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little bit extra rest. There different
ways you could do it. Yeah,

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that's an excellent point. Excellent point. It's a big reason why Jason Beck

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is so well respected throughout the game
of baseball. He's with us here on

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ex'es and bros. Bear with me
on this because you interact with fans a

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great deal on social media, and
when you're at the ballpark, you understand

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the mindset, even though you don't
always agree with it. Riley Green,

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he's got homers. People don't care
about the average. They shouldn't. Andy

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Banya is not seen as an everyday
guy when so Perez brand new, so

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they're not even sure. Carrie Carpenter
has come up with some big hits over

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the last couple of years, they're
okay with that. Cole Keith is a

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young guy, they're letting him grow
into it. Zach McKinstry's kind of a

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you know, a jack of all
trades, hobby or bias people have given

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up on for the most part.
So where does the eyre go to.

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It goes to Spencer Torkolsen, fair
or unfair. People forget about the thirty

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one bombs in ninety four stakes a
year ago. They worry about the lack

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of power this year. And of
course the average, which I think is

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overrated. What do you think is
the level of concern for the Tigers on

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Spencer Torkolsen And what is the length
of leash you give him before you do

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anything drastic about him. I mean, I think there's a good deal of

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concern. That's one thing. If
it was like previous years where there's a

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ton of hard times tag not getting
rewarded for it, but we're not seeing

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that to the same degree this year. It's a lot of pop ups.

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It's a lot of you know,
low percentage hit by low percentage. I

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mean like they expected batting average or
they hit probability. Whatever you want to

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call. It is not as high, so, you know, but he's

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still making contact. It's not as
they're the same strike a rate that he's

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had in years past. So you
know, would you rather have it previous

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ways? Maybe to some degree,
but it also suggests that he's at least

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seeing balls. He's just not you
know, with that swim, with the

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timing, he's just not making the
same quality of contact he's been able to

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make it. And yeah, that's
worrisome. Is it a reason to do

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him for his career? No,
he's shown the ability to make adjustments,

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he's shown the potential, and he's
shown the ability to heat up rather quickly

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once he figures things out. You
know, what they say is that they

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don't think he can That triple A
would necessarily make a huge amount of difference

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with him, because he's shown he
can get there. I think if you

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were to send him, it would
have to be with specific targets that you

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want him to work on to figure
things out to where like if he if

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when he does that, you bring
him back up, you know, and

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then you know, you you go
back and see what works. They're not

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at that point yet, you know, they've said they haven't talked about it,

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although you know, you kind of
say that you know all the time

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until you actually do it. At
the time you talk about it is the

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time you actually do it. But
right now they're willing to give him,

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you know, more leash. I
don't think it's forever, but I think

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at this point you keep letting him
go along. Remember like a couple of

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years ago, they let him go
all the way through you know, up

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to you know, basically the All
Star Break to try to figure things out.

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So they've shown, you know,
of willingness to be as abundantly patient

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here to let him work things out. But you know, it's been a

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grind and I think if he showed
it was really wearing on him mentally,

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you know that leash might be quicker. He is not so far. So

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you know, if he keeps not
just his spirits up, because that's what

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you know, he's naturally a pretty
optimistic guy, but also the determination that

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he's an adjustment a way that he
really feels like there's progress there and that

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00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:51.400
it's within reach, that it's not
helpless. I think you want to keep

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rewarding for that, for that willingness
to keep working, to keep giving him

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the shot to to see if this
works. Yeah, and to his credit,

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00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:05.280
I mean, he's such a he
really is a great young man.

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To his credit, he's handled this
adverse time with great class and dignity.

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Let me ask you, this is
kind of a broad question. I think

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you've already partly addressed it with the
offense, but this is kind of what

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I've said. Look, they're pitching. It's hard to argue with the starting

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pitching like you've brought up. And
I still truly believe in the bullpen.

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Shelby Miller has had some blow ups, but overall, you believe in the

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bullpen. Their defense is an elite
there's no really no elite defender now that

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Parker Medos is down in Toledo.
There's some guys who make some spectacular plays,

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but it's not an elite defense.
It's a substandard offense right now.

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And their speed on the base pass
is for the most part lacking. You

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know, they don't you don't fear
them. Let's say, like you would

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a Kansas city of the past.
What do you think this team's biggest detriment

476
00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:01.920
is overall? And how do they
fix it? The biggest detriment I think

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the most fixable detriment, honestly me
is probably defense. I think they're a

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00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:17.119
better defensive team than they've shown so
far. I think there are ways to

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fix it. I think he've seen
progress from at first base, and I

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00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:28.000
think first base is critical, you
know, for a lot of defenses,

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but particularly this one, because a
good first baseman, what he can do

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00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.039
on throws or off target, can
make an entire endfield better. You know,

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00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:43.440
Jim Leelant talks about that for years, and while Hobby's throws have not

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00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.440
been as wild, he's a lot
more on target throws. I think you

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00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:54.679
know, Ork can do when he's
right defensively, can help out a cold

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00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.599
teeth, can help out what they're
trying to do. A third before Geo

487
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:01.760
comes back, you know, can
help out in a lot of areas,

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00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.880
can help out on double plays,
and I think we've seen that a little

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00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.840
bit more in recent days to where
you know, Torque reading balls right and

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00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:15.760
stretching. It's kind of made a
difference on some plays to where you know,

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early in the year maybe those don't
get made. Okay, all right,

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00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.679
it's fixable with positioning. I think
third base becomes better once comes back.

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00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:31.360
I think center field without post Parker
has become a little bit better in

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00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.800
recent days, is once sol has
gotten settled in there, although I still

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00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:40.360
think Fearling is a more solid,
reliable option there on days players. Yeah,

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I think rightfield becomes better as as
Carpenter makes better reads. Yeah,

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00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.920
and you could actually move Riley Green
to center and they've I know you guys

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00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.800
have talked to the Tigers about that
a little bit. One final thing before

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we let you go. This division
has surprised me. I mean Cleveland Stephen

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vote his first year, that surprised
me a little bit. I still think

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Detroit should win this division. I
think that should be the expectation. I've

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said that for more than just this
year. I said it a year ago.

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That should be the expectation for Detroit
fans and should be for the Tigers.

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Who's the biggest surprise to you so
far as we reached the quarter pole

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00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:28.079
in Major League Baseball? Me personally, the biggest surprises Cleveland. Oh,

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00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:32.039
you know, they've won recently,
they've won in the past, But having

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watched the challenges that the Tigers went
through when they went from Jim Leland to

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00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:43.679
Brad Austinas, what they've been able
to do in year one underceives both is

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really impressive, and especially with a
younger roster than they get credits for.

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You know, they don't defeat themselves, and they've shown that, you know,

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they they played good fundamental baseball.
You know, they win at the

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margins as as some baseball people like
to say, you know, and they

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00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:08.079
put pressure on you, and you
know, the Tigers they they felt that,

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you know, that that was a
very winnable series they had this week,

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but the Indians pressured them and they
took advantage of mistakes and I think

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00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.960
the Tigers were a little bit surprised
by that. And you know, this

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is a division to where it's like, you know, even though the Tigers

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00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:28.840
weren't in the race last year,
they had their way with the division and

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00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:30.760
had to have match up. That's
right. And I think Cleveland made a

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00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.320
statement, you know, this week
to where you know, you can't just

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00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.280
assume it's going to be that way
again. You know, that was very

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00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:45.360
impressive and I think it's you know, that goes along way towards establishing Cleveland

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00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.199
as the team to be if they
weren't already. I agree with you,

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Jason. The other the other surprise
to me be Houston and their struggles at

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the bottom, and of course you'll
be there front and center for the Tigers

526
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.599
and the Astros starting tonight. Thanks
for your time, Hi, my friend.

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00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.239
I appreciate it as always. Have
a great weekend, all the best

528
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:06.719
this season. Hope to talk to
you again soon. Thanks Chef. Always

529
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.000
good talking ball with you. I
miss fent so good to talk with you.

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00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:13.599
Yeah, likewise, I'm missing a
great deal too. Jason Beck joining

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us from MLB dot com. You
can fill him on Twitter at beck Jason.

532
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:22.159
Really good follow great information. Always
enjoy the perspective that he brings.

533
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.760
Always enjoy your perspective as well.
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the texts. It's been an honor
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