Hello? What' s up? What a welcome pleasure I am Luis Miguel
Salgado. It' s a pleasure and a privilege for me. Today I
am accompanied by an exceptional woman because not only does wonderful work on social networks,
but also helps the human being a great deal. How much we need.
It is a privilege and an honor for me to present Andrea Niño to
you. How are you, Andrea, welcome. Thank you so much for
this invitation. I am very happy and very honored to be with you.
Let' s talk about this weirdo, let' s talk about a lot
of things. Let me, please, introduce Andrea Niño. She is a
psychotherapist, specialist in therapy, systemic, self- esteem and healing of childhood
injury. Believe me, there are many or many adults carrying childhood wounds,
even if we are forty- fifty to ninety years old. It' s
really impressive and the work Andrea does is wonderful. You' ll be welcome
and all of you are fine with it. We begin s n Andrea welcome.
Nice to meet you. Really, as you know here, what a
good question. We' ll ask questions of all kinds. We want to
know how you think? We want to know how you think. Obviously,
there will be questions that do not carry an order. No, but the
idea is to have a good time, but to learn, but to know,
but to positively impact people. And before I start, I love asking
this question. It' s like getting out of when you start a football
or tennis game not, regardless of everything you' ve studied, what you
' ve prepared, all the master' s degrees, courses, workshops,
don' t tell me by taking all these things away. Who' s
Andrea Niño. Welcome. Thank you, Luis, my good one. This
is a very deep question, which goes beyond what we can all think,
and I think that depends on the moment of life where we meet. I
don' t like it. I don' t like labels in general,
neither in therapy nor in general life. So I think we' re what
we' re forming of ourselves every moment, every day, and that'
s a wonderful thing, because every day we have as that chance of that
super power to choose who we want to be. So, today I am
defining myself at every moment and that is what I always invite to the communion
that we have built, that we do not define ourselves, because that limits
us. So who I am, I can do whatever I want, whenever
I want, when I want to, and I have that superpower, so,
beyond the definitions that I feel limit us a lot, that we are
infinite. Okay, hey, that superpower. Sounds a lot to me about
superheroes. Not that all superheroes, if you notice, have those superpowers that
we often crave as a little boy. No. However, we are growing
up and we understand the superheroes and we are seeing that they are people with
deep wounds. If there' s no Batman who lost his mom and dad,
he' s spider Man, he doesn' t have dads and there
' s the grandmother who takes care of him and then he dies. And
there' s a lot of superheroes not that obviously are perfect, but they
' re really cracked inside. I want to ask you at what point in
your life you had this enlightenment to say. I' m going to study
this. I' m going to study this because I don' t want
to be a firefighter or I don' t want to be an accountant,
less a lawyer. At what point this woke up in me. Well,
no one knows that my community, because I' ve never touched on that
subject. I studied psychology already large. I studied first. Well, I
' m in medicine first. I didn' t finish, I did just
two semesters and then I' m marketing. I didn' t graduate either.
Then I get pregnant with my oldest son. I married my oldest son
' s dad and we had a family, I have my second son and
after there we had company, we had clothing shoe companies. We drove from
the United States to Colombia, we had a factory, we had warehouses.
Anyway, after I attend therapy and fall in love with how that can transform
trans life the way we see our past experiences, re- meaning many things.
I fall in love with that, I start to read, I start
to nourish myself empirically and after that, of being a mom, of not
having finished two previous careers, I enter psychology in a formal way. Hey
it' s super interesting, because obviously you talk to us then that one
can change, that one is constantly changing. You open up that possibility of
change, because many times we think and I don' t know if it
happens to you or it happens to you, or it happens to them in
Colombia, but here, in Mexico, Mexican culture is a lot to see.
Study finishes a career. After that, you get married you have kids
and you' re happy forever more or less. So, of course,
times have changed and today this whole scheme has been broken and we have been
involved in many issues, obviously, to break that bubble. You open this
possibility to us. When I say hey I' m studying something else and
I' m getting ready, regardless of whether I have a business. You
would have stayed in the business and we won' t be talking. For
example, now, right now, your specialty is to find that childhood wound
and start healing it. Why it takes us so much work Andrea to heal
this kind of thing, that is, one would think that as it grows,
it heals. But it' s not like that. True, what
happens is that from the zero to the seven years the basis of what is
going to be our personality structure and the way we see life is built.
Yes, it' s like and we chase ourselves and others. So,
from the zero to the seven years all traumas, limiting beliefs and many very
nice things originate, but also, because we need to solve. And from
zero to seven years old, neural connections are created that are going to be
the basis of our life. And when we don' t do the work
of re- signifying that, because we have thirty what you said in the
beginning, forty fifty sixty years, but we continue to function with those neural
connections that were created from zero to seven. So our perception, actually,
is a childish perception that originated with the tools and rationing capabilities that we had
from zero to seven. And many people don' t mean that and go
through life trying to be adults, functional, trying to be a couple,
trying to be entrepreneurs or professionals, mom parents, with the mental and emotional
structure from which it was built from zero to seven. That' s super
bad, Wow sounds, really bad. It is because, of course,
it is good. How many couples are thundered, failed just because they are
two young children fighting fractures, not or how many or how many adults with
children and educate children according to their fractures and stories, but not only that.
How many people aren' t in a broken workplace and trying to pull
off an impressive production. Now, in this sense, I will love to
ask you how it is that you can detect. I understand it' s
through therapy, but how can you detect that you say here there' s
something, that there' s something, and what' s the reaction of
your patients who say oh don' t come back again to the seven years
you' re lax. Not how that works well, each case is special,
yes, but basically more than coming back and what gives us the first
clue is the results. What results it has and all results are quantifiable.
What results you have in five main aspects of your life. Relationships that are
not just couples, but all relationships. Yeah, if they' re good,
those results, well okay, but they' re usually not good.
And that' s why people go to therapy the relationship with themselves. Yes,
how is your relationship with yourself patterns of thought, of feeling. Then
how I feel. If I feel bad, it' s because I'
m not relating well to the thoughts I' m having and that generates me,
well, a lot of discomfort my health. People who have psychopathologies or
disorders get more sick. That is a reality and science, because it has
already been confirmed by the economy. How is my ability to serve the other.
How I relate to service to others, and that will be reflected in
economic results. Yes, and so, on a transcendental or spiritual level,
how I perceive my existence on this plane, on this world. So,
based on those five results, we can identify whether there' s anything to
solve or not. Now, obviously, we' re all used to it
and I think that' s a very bad practice of the human being and
I might understand it as a defense mechanism of starting to occupy masks to the
simple, plain question of how you' re doing well, no, how
you' re doing well. And the truth is, we' re not
doing well. And the truth is, we' re not okay. No.
But we always say how you' re doing, cool, no.
Everything is walking on this subject that I become certain, are certain taboos or
certain issues, for example. Now it is very fashionable these clichés of loose
flow and this type of clichés we are rooting them, we make them ours.
And then those clichés are very dangerous because, well, you can'
t just let your partner go in life, no more because they fought or
because he got up and dressed him up. Not a thing so you tell
her this as how you can you in therapy, like cushion that like what
you tell them, obviously, without going into very specific cases, but some
tool for her to see wait and take off those masks. Let' s
not talk about you to you. Every case is very punctual. Yes,
each case is specific and the handling given to it of the truth given to
it, as it is dependent on the requirements of that case, but at
a very general level it is like the external is actually only showing us something
that we must solve internally. I always give my patients the example of when
we print something on a sheet and a word goes wrong and I delete the
sheet and it' s choneo and everything. But that' s actually the
result of what' s written in World. Then let' s change the
World, because outside is just the result of what' s inside to be
solved. Then always look inside. And what you said about couples going loose.
If you release a couple, because yes, you choose to end a
relationship, but you don' t do the inner work, the next couple
is going to be equal or worse and the dynamics and the situation is going
to be exactly the same, because you haven' t solved it in and
never the issue is that it' s the other one, or it'
s my job, or it' s my boss, or it' s
the President, or it' s a system, but it' s something
I have to solve inside. And my external results are a reflection of that
internal situation. You only take care of what you truly love, I see
it in an Instagram post. And why don' t we take care of
ourselves. Why don' t we love each other. It' s just
that he' s super tough. That' s not true, it'
s super rough and we can' t love what we don' t know.
And we usually don' t invest time, energy, tools, resources
to know each other, because no one taught us. No one taught us
to know us, We were taught to obey, to fulfill a stereotype,
the duty to be functional, but no one taught us. What' s
important to know about me a few days ago was instagram. You know what
gives you pleasure, what' s basic, what' s not very profound
or transcendental, but there are many people who don' t even have a
list of ten things that give you pleasure. It' s not welfare.
Pleasure other than well- being, but not even that. What' s
the most superficial thing there is, that something forgives me for interrupting you,
something that called me a lot. The attention is that, obviously, going
to therapy you put it and I loved it is brave, because the way
we face ourselves today. I think another cliché is that everyone is going to
therapy, which would be worth it to give a deep sense back to the
topic of therapy, because a few years ago it got in a way to
run and everyone runs marathons and then now the father got here in Mexico.
Well, the father is one thing you don' t know. No,
so now everyone goes to the father and you ask anyone and before going to
therapy, it was even embarrassing, it wasn' t like how you go
to therapy. Hey, you' re wrong. No, and now everyone
' s going to therapy, according to this. But the truth is that
even to choose a therapist, it' s a whole subject, not what
recommendation you can give us. For example, if someone says I really want
to transform myself, I would love to go with Andrea, but how do
you distinguish Andrea, from a good therapist, from a bad therapist or from
that quote coach who takes a YouTube course and already feels not good, not
how you can distinguish, because first the academic training that she studied, what
is your specialty, what is her methodology. A person who does not know
how to explain the methodology applied in therapy, as it is not a good
option. Second, and ninety percent of my patients are referred to other patients
who have had results. I mean, most patients and I in networks really
even right now is that I' m kind of starting to move because it
was something that I had very quiet, but my patients are referred to people
who have had results. Yeah, and another thing. Well, I respect
people' s practices and everything, but a therapist that makes you dependent on
therapy so that you feel good, it' s not a good option,
because, as therapists, we must promote people to have autonomy, is to
share tools for them to know how to self- manage and not have to
go to therapy for two years, three, years, five, that is,
seven years in therapy. Obviously, if a specific subject appears that requires
an accompaniment, it is something exceptional, but not return to dependent patients and
I am terrified of patients who come to consult. In my case, he
' s the patient who lasts longer with me, lasts six sessions. Yes,
and that obviously to see there are exceptional cases with usual topics, but
a person who lasts I say today, with the advances there are with the
techniques, that there are two and three years in therapy, because handling the
same topic. It' s like you' re not serving her therapy.
I mean, if you already have three sessions and you don' t see
any changes and what I told you at the beginning of results. If you
don' t feel better thinking about an experience and if it has still generated
pain and there is no measurable advance, how you feel, then that therapy
and that therapist are not serving you. I call the brain all of a
sudden that inhabits a crazy woman from the house, a crazy woman from the
house who is screaming and who is saying because we don' t have and
I want to generalize it is also lying, but I want to talk in
plural control about the crazy woman from the house. No, we suddenly thought
of something. Suddenly we think we have a negative thought and suddenly it comes
back and we don' t know how to control the emotions and then it
becomes the crazy one of the house and the feelings, then it' s
an awesome roll. Here I want to ask you this because I find wonderful
what you' re sharing with us. It also takes an act of honesty
on our part, not to say speaking the truth a hundred percent. I
think with you, with the lawyers and you say that with a priest you
always have to talk the truth. This one but yes, the idea is
to overflow and say things as they are. I mean, I was wrong,
I made my partner, I made this mistake and we were just my
parents, not etcetera. I mean, it' s also a lot of
the development of good therapy, the person, the patient, of course,
that' s fundamental. But self as therapists We know that many patients lie
in therapy and it' s part of the therapist' s job to learn
how to manage that while creating the path where the person already has the tools
and can do the job. But that' s not in the first session,
I mean, it' s very common, very common for consultants to
lie in therapy, which gives very common. Then, part of the work
you do of that accompaniment is obviously understanding going, managing and helping you see
the origin of many things yourself. But, because it' s a job,
I mean, it' s a job, obviously you need the right
tools, the ability of the therapist to identify which tool suits the person in
what way and also clearly, the commitment and responsibility of the person who attends
therapy because there are bad therapists. That' s a reality. There are
bad therapists who impose content, who impose belief during the therapy session, and
that is very dangerous. Yeah, yeah, that' s a reality.
But there are also patients who do not take advantage of excellent therapists because they
do not have the commitment to themselves to put into practice or to take advantage
of the tools that are shared in therapies. Systemic therapy consists precisely in that,
in giving them tools. I' ve been in therapy, I'
m currently in therapy and I' ve touched, like some therapists, as
you say too very bad, very very bad that literal are solving things for
you. I mean, you' re saying look at me and you'
re answering, because you should do this. No more you do it and
it' s chaos or suddenly they' re inducing you to look. You
have to read this book, you have to do this, and they go
in one other way like driving them to their court. I don' t
know if it' s right or not. What I want to ask you
is this systemic therapy. You' re giving us tools for the people who
are seeing us and who are in another country and who say listen to me
beat about Andrea. I want to get closer, I want to take therapy
with her. I' d be interested to talk to you about this case
How wonderful it could be in six sessions. Look here what' s important
is this. Maybe in six sessions, in four, in three you get
to wake up and say face to face. I know this is the link
I needed to wake up. No, but that doesn' t mean you
probably don' t have to run another process. Here. The question I
' m asking you is what this psychotherapy therapist is like, this systemic psychotherapy.
Well, the systemic one we handle as a system in general, not
as an isolated case. The symptom. Yeah, then systemic. There is
a family systemic system that works with the entire family or systemic system at the
individual level. So I like people to be aware that we' re all
systemic in general. Talk about mental health when I don' t sleep the
hours my brain needs to be functional, when I' m overstimulating my nervous
system because I consume a lot of coffee or energy drinks, or I consume
alcohol or other substances. So we' re systemic beings. It' s
an integral issue. So, as a systemic, we call what the person
is handled in a system way, not as an isolated thing, but as
part of an integrated system. Yes, then my husband is a doctor,
so I tell them it' s important that we send out some tests to
see how your body is working, because on a moral level, how certain
measures are. That' s already being handled by him as a doctor and
we can' t talk about mental health. But then, I have a
hormone issue that I haven' t solved and that goes against my life to
want to feel good. But it' s just that I have the hormones
in a mess. We have to sort that out. First, what are
your eating habits? There are foods that promote episodes of anxiety and depression.
There are others who promote that I have in torphine, serotomine, well,
all the chemistry of well- being, which is already very, very common
and very popular today. Then we have to handle everything at the system level.
When a little boy goes to therapy, it wouldn' t be totally
inefficient to give him therapy and little girl is not the mom and dad,
the caregiver or the couple. I' m just here to be a couple
' s therapy. Do not come together and work at the individual level and
at the individual level. It is also on a systemic level. Yeah,
there' s a story, there' s a set of thought habits,
there' s a set of dream, feeding, routine, and relationship habits.
How I communicate. Anyway, hey, tell us, please, you.
I also imagine that with all this and with your husband they will be
a wonderful couple for the whole care issue. I mean what they eat to
what they see. Evidently, there are also studies that say you' re
the result of the five people you get together with, not if you get
drunk, the sixth you' re going to do. If you get together
with five people who read, the sixth person will do you. Tell me
a little bit about your husband' s everyday life. What they eat,
what they exercise, they isolate themselves a little bit from the media or if
they see them, how is a life of someone who already knows this whole
subject and I imagine that your family nucleus of being wonderful because you solve things
like more easily at times, but so I imagine that do not talk to
us a little bit. Please, well, I' m all of them.
He' s a high- performance athlete. In fact, I met
him because he was my teacher at an intelligence cox. Nutrition intelligence, intelligent
nutrition based on scientific evidence. He is passionate about the whole issue of nutrition
and preventive medicine. He' s vegan more than twenty years ago and well,
a few years ago I went into a course that I dictated of intelligent
nutrition because he' s raised me ten kilos. I' ve had Eskirles.
So I wanted to lose weight and I' ve been very curious about
the welfare issue in general. I was a vegetarian for a while, just
like very curious. So I go into the course with him and I realize
that many products we consume bring esogenic themes or h and I was trying to
lose weight because it was a hormonal issue and for personal issues as well that
I was going through a few years ago. And all that we subtly subtly
in which then I begin this way and then I become vegan, I become
vegan He is vegan more than twenty years ago. I am vegan almost three
years ago and because here our food is very clean, based on plants.
I am fortunate enough to live with him, who is an expert on this
subject of intelligent nutrition based on scientific evidence, is not in personal beliefs,
but dull in evidence. Then I realized as a person that how we feed
and it has an impact but very direct in how we feel, in how
we sleep, in our weight, in our energy level, in our ability
to solve and manage things that arise in the day to day. And something
basic that I always share with my women, because I have only women.
In change, I don' t know why not, but they' re
my female patients and I say they' re also hormonal series. So I
don' t have the same ability my day, before my monthly period comes
to me, to manage certain things, to have some handling, with certain
things that can be delicate, to make certain decisions, to have certain conversations.
So, in my house, both with him, I have two teenage
children, I tell you, count me out. I mean, I'
m not available today. We' re not having that conversation today because I
can' t get to be wise, understanding, loving, quiet, etcetera.
Not sure, of course, then I learned over time that there are
times where I must not be available to others and to handle certain things.
Then I allow myself, I allow myself not to be for my children,
for him, etcetera. Then that works very well. That' s amazing.
And how good we are meeting a boy. We' re getting to
know her more check this fact. Please, all the people who see us
and listen to us. I' m not available at certain times for certain
people or situations, and it' s that sometimes we pretend to be available
all the time, solve everything at all times. And the truth is that
I have a maxim that says we' re not everything to everyone at all
times. There aren' t just things you have to let go of There
are battles that you just have to lose and give the reason. There are
no times when people don' t want to fight the only thing that wants
reason. Well, the reason and then two or three days later you can
fix that. Andrea, let me congratulate you on all the excellent work you
' re doing in networks. Please remind people that nothing else is listening to
us what your social networks are, your Instagram, please. If you give
therapy online, please talk to us a little bit good. I currently only
give therapy online. We also have a retreat that is face- to-
face, which is spectacular. It' s only one a year. It
is a retreat where we work at a very deep level, many themes not
only of childhood, but previous themes, of family programmings, of stories that
are repeated. I don' t know if you' ve seen some people
or families repeating and repeating the same pattern from generation to generation. Then we
work. That' s what some people called and got very fashionable. Also
as the theme of constellations, these are not constellations, they are therapy,
family systemic. Diftinta in When you retire, please, this year is going
to be May 25th May, near Bogotá, in Colombia, people come from
all over. It' s a wonderful retreat. They are unlimited quotas and
they can find us information in pure arrobas of pure soul with two so pure
aloof soul, of pure soul actually hear those who are seeing and listening to
us give the opportunity of these retreats, of these encounters. See if you
do accounts, spend more money on many other things that there is to buy
a ticket, buy a ticket, go to Colombia. It' s two
three days of an intense retreat. Later they leave if they want to meet
those they don' t know. But what is important is to have an
encounter with yourself each time I have this opportunity to take advantage of it,
because evidently, it is so liberating, healing is so one has come back
with ideas as very clear of what one is looking for. What' s
more, it' s so cathartic that all of a sudden you end up
making decisions like saying I' m not getting divorced or not, or if
I' m getting married, because there are people who want to marry us
and say yes now I' m getting married I didn' t already find
out why Andrea doesn' t really hear anymore. Thank you for being with
us. Now let' s start a second part of the interview. There
' s no good or bad body parts. Let' s play a little
bit with the theme of imagination and so on. So the first part.
I' d like to ask you, ask you questions about what you prefer
the cold or the heat comes out then we start very quickly. Please answer
me what do you prefer cold or cold heat? Spend a year at forty
degrees Celsius or at less than ten degrees Celsius minus ten, you can only
talk screaming or you can only talk whispering while you can fly or be invisible,
m ferpolar, sing everything you say or say aloud everything you read?
Say out loud everything I read? Ok you prefer to dance every time you
listen to music or sing every time you listen to a song, sing how
you are for singing. M a very good one, but when was the
last time you sang for you was a long time ago, I don'
t remember right now, I mean, what a long time ago, now,
I' m going to put in other questions. I want to ask
you when today morning you got up, you saw yourself in the mirror,
tell me first, what' s the story Andrea tells Andrea. I don
' t know the others, but I at least see myself in the mirror
and suddenly I say ah you' re half a slap or you want to.
We' re going well, no, and suddenly I' m talking
to a friend of mine in the mirror, not what a story, what
a story you' re telling yourself. Well, that starts earlier, when,
before I open my eyes, like I try to have the gesture of
affection with me, it can be like caressing me or hugging me. That
' s how I say powerful, positive things. I remember the things I
' m capable of. Then that starts before you open your eyes. And
when I' m still in bed ok ok and when you' re dressed
today in the morning, in the mirror, tell me according to how you
dress and how you feel, how old you think, what you would actually
be like just how you look and how you feel. Well, I really
like the way I look. So I' m not that objective, because
I love how I look even when I can be your weight diet or whatever
or not is Wis N in the gym and everything then, like I learned
to, there was a theme and I want it to end, so tell
me an incidence. I' m a mom of two boys, they'
re already fifteen and thirteen. I' m a very young mom and I
was very thin. Then, the skin stretched a lot and I got a
lot of stretch marks and that was something that tortured me. I spent thousands
of dollars trying to erase those stretch marks with laser and well, a lot
of things and that' s just when I learned that that' s not
that that' s not what I look like and say to myself and that
' s not a very deep thing to understand that my value as a person
and my beauty as a being lies much deeper than what my skin looks like
at some point or at some point, because it' s that, besides,
we women especially define our whole being by a scar. Yes, but
it' s just that we are much more and don' t talk about
how deep we are as personality beings, as values of structure. I'
m not much more body level than those stretch marks. Then learn to like,
learn to see everything cute we have and not limit something as little as
a scar, a stretch, a weight or something. If there' s
something we don' t like, then of course there are resources to change
them if we don' t like them. But we' re way beyond
that. Notice that this is wonderful, because how many people, Ahorita thought,
how many women would want to have those stretch marks and never in life
will be able to have it no and then also think that that is a
blessing. Maybe you had an accident and you' re going to say no,
but as if I might walk it, then thank God that you'
re alive, that you' re alive, not that you obviously have that
chance today. Others had a minor accident and are not here. So it
' s not silly comfort, it' s just smart comfort. It is
not to say life is lived forward, it is not lived backward, always
forward. Yes, here, you have to be careful with something, because
when there' s an upset, you have to pay attention, that is,
when something I don' t like. And it' s all like
yes, and it' s like how we' d treat a little kid
like there' s fallen off. It' s okay Get up It'
s not valet. It is valid to have in distress, it is valid
that it is costing you the change of your new image to call it somehow.
Then it' s listening to him. It' s obviously listening to
you, because if it is, you have to pay attention so it'
s not how we put everything under the mat, but also do all the
work, which is a lot to understand that you' re much more than
that absolutely. Let' s go with the next question. You' d
rather be the funniest person in the room or the smartest person. Smarter,
okay, but you have to detect every lie you hear or believe every lie
that you say detect every lie, what do you say OK? You'
d rather never wait in line or always have a place to park. That
' s hard to take place where you' re going to park. As
you are with waiting Andrea, you are patient. You' re impatient when
you go to the bank, when you go to a supermarket and there'
s a lot of people waiting for you to use that time or flat and
say no man, I' ll come tomorrow or I' ll come another
day. Uy I was the most impatient person in the world, but the
most for me that will arrive five minutes late that would make me wait or
line up. I was suffering from it, that is to say, I
was really laughing. But, right now, I don' t take a
book, or I start reading something on it or on my cell phone or
something. But I mean, I don' t suffer at all, no
no and I don' t have any problems, right now, that we
were talking about the previous question of the lie, not whether you' d
rather detect the lies or believe the lies? What an opinion you deserve this
part of always telling the truth. You ask any human being and what do
you prefer to be told the truth or lied to? We all tend to
say no, man, I mean the truth. I want you to tell
me the truth. But the truth suddenly isn' t for everyone. Not
to say, there are things that better stay hidden, you better not know
because a truth can be, because you can literally even destroy yourself. What
' s your opinion about it? I think honesty has been given an exaggerated
value and it' s really not a virtue because, I mean, I
say what you' re saying it for, I mean, it' s
what you' re doing it for. And if you' re going to
use something, then it does have value, but if it' s not
going to serve, if it' s unnecessary, if you haven' t
verified it, what is the intention of walking through life telling my truth.
Besides, because we have to be clear that universal truth does not exist.
Everyone who builds their truth depends on the tools they have. Then, first,
for me there is no absolute truth. Everyone has their perception of things
and from there they will generate their own truth to what they will call their
truth. And why walk like screaming at the four s into our truth.
I don' t see it as necessary, efficient or useful. I tell
my children. If there' s anything about you, take a good look
at who you' re going to share it with, of course, your
friends. It' s necessary. It' s going to help you,
if you need to handle it with a therapist and he goes to therapy if
you need to, not with me, but with someone else or with me.
If I can support you, but it' s what I' m
saying it for and who I' m telling. And apart from the age
of adolescence, that well, it' s interesting, it' s not
motivating. Let' s not say that if anything was missing from our life
of emotion, it' s adolescence. Young people, yes, it'
s interesting. Hey let' s go with quick questions of whether or not
the only thing that' s worth answering and yes or no, and in
some cases you can say step by step goes then first question. You consider
yourself a happy person. Yeah, you' re 100% satisfied with your
physique. No, you consider yourself a nice person. You broke someone'
s heart. I can do parentheses if they think so, okay, but
I know that nobody has that power over others. Okay, wonderful, you
' re depressed. You don' t feel lonely. You haven' t
done your homework. Yeah, you already threw away the trash. You didn
' t take me for a dog walk today. I don' t have
a dog, okay, you bought what I asked. No, you don
' t remember what day it is today. Yes, you were satisfied.
Yeah, you want to finish the interview. Not anymore. You' ve
ever tried someone secretly who told you some secret that you told it. Someone
confessed a secret to you and you told it. That' s ever happened
to you, no, no good you do, yeah, okay, okay,
tell me something. You believe in the life of those who believe in
life outside this planet. Yeah, yeah, how you imagine extraterrestrials. You
' ve ever had an audition, seen something or something or not. No,
no, but it' s a very big university and to think we
' re the only ones, because I don' t know, it seems
weird to me. I know, yes, I can imagine if I offered
to turn you into a robot, you' d accept that you don'
t support sexual diversity. I don' t think I need to support her
about it, okay? You' d like to be born again. Yeah,
you' d be able to be completely alone for six months. Yeah,
I think it wouldn' t be chevere, but I would be able
to, okay, you agree with the death penalty. M no, okay,
okay. Now I say one thing. Which you prefer to measure half
of what you measure or weigh twice as much as you weigh and despite the
pain or what weight. Hey, you' d like to earn fifty thousand
euros today or five euros for what' s left of your life. Yeah,
let' s go right now, Güey, tell us, please,
what do you do then when you' re sad, how you cheer up,
and how you cheer up someone who' s sad. Well, it
depends on the context, but when I feel sad and this is something I
always invite patients to, Luis has taught us to get out of the emotion
quickly. And emotions are neither good nor bad. Emotions are messengers. And
when there is an emotion of sadness, I observe it in order to identify
where it comes from and with much humility and respect, I open myself to
receive the message that that emotion has for me and allow me to receive it
and learn what that emotion is teaching me at that moment, then I do
not run out, but I observe it, I accept it, because if
it is because it is necessary. But let' s say practical things like
you grab, the boat sideways and you eat it you watch sad movies or
you get up or you watch. There are people who are sad and sometimes
we have two not or we lie down and we approach the prayer not to
turn us around. And there are others who say no. No, no,
no, not sad in mothers, and they stop and we' re
going to exercise and listen to happy music how you do it. What happens
is that the one and the other from a therapeutic, psychological context, The
one is to evade the emotion that distracts me by doing something else, and
that is not healthy. Yes he believes and the first one, which is
I turn into emotion, because it is neither healthy nor necessary, because I
do not need to stay in emotion any longer. It is necessary to observe
it I feel it, because, if it is there it is to identify
something else, but I neither turn around nor bring myself to hear about it.
Tell us, please, what was the last thing you searched on the
Internet, in cpt ok chat to help me create today' s publication coping.
As ah look at me very well, very well. Tell me,
please, if I ever imagine I say many times they' ve made you
laugh until you cry. That' s not how the caste gets you stuck,
you can' t breathe to make weird noises makes you pee I don
' t know something that happened like that, something weird, well, because
right now or before I don' t, before some story, of some
anecdote that you say children. Yes, once I attacked with laughter and this
happened to me and because to see me stop and the wine you know not
good, once very small, I remember, very small, but very small
and it is one of the memories, as well as to experience shame that
I started to laugh a lot and started as a more ranito, very hard
and very small. Then everyone stayed as if what was wrong with him.
Well, something that was both bigger and bigger, already at school. I
had a laugh at school. Yeah, that was super traumatic. And so
you passed the super laugh, super note, not what he hears tell us.
Please, if you' ve ever been confused with someone you' re
going on the street and suddenly you' re told that I' m signed
by an autograph or something so I' m really happy. They confuse you
with a singer with someone like that famous, I don' t know if
they mistook me. I lived in New York for a while, but I
don' t know if I was confused. I thought it was super weird.
It' s only happened to me once in my life, and one
person asked to take a picture with me and I, okay, but I
don' t know if he mistook me for someone. I didn' t
understand what you would have signed here is a signature or not. Everything is
fine, very good, not and I took the picture, but then I
mean it was weird, because no, because we sent a greeting to the
person. If he sees me in one of those, he doesn' t
hear. I want to ask you about fame, about that kind of fame.
Luis Miguel you know you can' t get out you prefer fame without
money or money without fame, money without fame. It doesn' t take
long for you to be like that, for example, appearing in the history
of your country' s history books. If it' s any important input,
I' d think it' s very cool. But I don'
t think it' s fame as such, because Fama being very well known
and that doesn' t okay hear, you' d like to control people
' s emotions. It wouldn' t be horrible, it wouldn' t
be something like very complex. He doesn' t hear and it would be
respect. You remember there' s a movie right now. It came to
mind I think it' s Robert de Niro, one of my analysis I
think it' s called in Spanish Analyze me It' s from a psychotherapist
who gives therapy to one of the hoods. No, and then the capo
cries and looks for him at 3: 00 in the morning and goes after
him at 2: 00 in the morning and puts him in a bar and
forces him. Yeah, you saw her. No. No, it'
s not very good. Then I' ll give you the name so you
' ll have fun at the same time. It' s familiar and it
' s very interesting, because this dependence we were talking about a little while
ago has happened to you some dependency case, so that they talk to you
on the phone at 2: 00 in the morning, not in therapy,
uh, not in a process of urgency, of a need, but that
' s how I don' t know what to do, what I do,
what happened like that. But many years ago when it was happening,
it does fall into that. I think that when a good therapist is doing
an intervention of his own, this kind of emergency presents us. Or then
if you at some point a patient who was having suicidal thoughts at that time,
then I accompanied her. Like, but I' ve been talking to
you for so many years. I was just a graduate, and then I
was super inexperienced, and I accompanied him and everything. But now, no,
no, no, no, how you take off, how you take
critical distance, because I imagine there must be cases in which your heart touches
you deeply. Well, you' ve got to get me in with the
bride to, you know, kick her out, I mean, go.
It' s not such a scandalous case. But all of a sudden there
must be cases that come with you and tell him that they touch your heart
and that maybe you stay thinking about two or three days like how you let
go or if you get disconnected very quickly. I think that happens to a
very good one. It happened to me in a tough way when I did
clinical practice with abused minors because I had children or children. Of course,
that was very strong for me, but very strong so much that I thought
this wasn' t my thing I said I won' t be able to.
This is very painful. Obviously, I don' t see patients,
I don' t see children or teenagers, I see adults, but it
' s a very personal process where it goes beyond psychology, which is a
subject I interpreted it yes, there we are back as a break, forgivingly
you remained that you interpreted it as something far beyond as I see it as
transcendental, spiritual and conscious. And it is clear that each being is living
an experience that needs to live. Yes, then that already freed me personally
from suffering for what the other one lives, because woe but because if you
see it from reason, it is impossible. Many things are impossible to understand,
but how this happens, and you will suffer a lot and you will
be bitter. But if you manage to see it from a much more transcendent
subject, obviously, with respect for each process, and that' s what
I tell patients with cases of their personal stories, how to re- mean
those stories, those experiences of them or their parents, for example, then
it' s to see that as something that is sacred, that happened,
that needs to be seen with respect and that if I can be support and
tool for that person to build a well- being despite having lived that,
because I serve him with all my love. How do you distinguish this theme
is that I am made to people like you, who have a full schedule
in terms of therapy and that now with your husband, who do a click
mys with medical issues and who work a lot and who are always like turned
towards being if it gives them enough time to build their marriage for your family,
because also the other side is super absorbent, no, that is,
you get out of one absorbent side to a hundred and you get another absorbent
more than a hundred not and how you distinguish it has been easy for you,
as a couple, to distinguish to see these jobs, to see here
the family already begins, here the children begin, no, and here I
already start as a person. Well, the schedule issue is very clear and
we handle it very well. We are not slaves to jetary people. Yeah,
and we' re both very helpful. Then we love to serve.
It' s not like I went out at eight o' clock, I
mean. Obviously, my kids are already big. We can already enjoy other
things, we already have very established schedules, very flexible that allow us to
have clear many activities. He' s the sportsman. I share a lot
with him, with the children. Anyway, that' s pretty clear,
like not. But as for issues of how to differentiate, because we do
retreats together. We do that retreat together, he' s also a facilitator
in this retreat. The Conference is as if we are always on the basis
of that service. Then it is very integrated, but not in a negative
way, but, for example, in a meal we can talk about feedback,
what handling is given to a situation that a patient needs like looking at.
This person is going through this and this and this I address this topic
you see as we are always, but it already becomes day to day.
So, because it' s part of our life at a very integral level,
because in my case I love and breathe that that is me, that
' s part of my being So I don' t feel the need like
we' re going to be at this table, talk at this dinner and
we' re not going to touch family issues, because I think it'
s all an opportunity to learn how to be and to serve and learn as
a family. Andrea, there are so many things we need to talk to
you about. I' m really happy, very grateful for the opportunity on
your agenda to open up a space and be able to talk to you.
I' m going to invite these microphones again. They are open for a
second, third, and tenth talk, and I also want to invite your
husband to please be the bearer of the invitation. I think there are also
very interesting things to talk to him, but well, here. The interesting
thing about this is to ask you what' s next in Andrea' s
life, i e, You' re, Mom, You' re wife,
You' re, a person who already has a great, great trajectory,
that we' re out there having a connection theme and coming back,
Andrea, asked you Andrea, that' s still for you in this walk.
You see yourself writing the book and you already have some practical books.
There are many courses, many courses and what I tell you about digital.
I' m very new. It was old school. In fact, it
took me a lot to switch to online therapy because I said that' s
not the same when it started in pandemic, because we had many, but
it took me a lot to switch from face- to- face therapy to
online. So, even right now I' m raiding. We' re
going to have courses in hotmark, have courses on how to be the woman
of your dreams, because this one is addressed to women, because many women
are obsessed with getting a prince blue, but they don' t even blow
the woman of their life. Yeah, then it' s first focus.
You' re gonna be your best version and you' re gonna have plenty
of options for what you can choose. That' s one. The other
is mental health management, supporting the organization and planning on how to have a
urma bulb that is super efficient in the subject of handling, habits and routines.
Those are the two who are already leaving this month and remember, please,
from the May retreat. Please, the date, the place where we
can register and, obviously, what we can expect when this retreat is over.
Well, the retreat will be two thousand hundred and twenty- six May
in Cundinamarca. It' s now and a half from Bogotá. It'
s in a country place, on the mountain, in the middle of nature.
It will be a retreat from a space where you will be able to
share with other people who are also on this path, to get to know
each other, to heal, to take charge, to free themselves from limiting
patterns, beliefs and programming, programming that we have not only of this life,
but of many previous generations that have destined us to have certain results in
life. So, this retreat is a wonderful space. There are beautiful testimonies
of people who have experienced it and have come out with a new way of
seeing life and re- signifying its history of origin. The information can be
found in pure soul, on Instagram or via Whatsapp. Plus fifty- seven
three hundred, sixteen, twenty- six, sixty- six little fifty-
three remind us, please, the number so that the people who are listening
to us have there to run fast on their cell phone, write it down
on their iPad or, if not, on a paper on a sheet.
Then whatsapp, please. Plus fifty- seven three sixteen, twenty- six,
sixty- six, eight hundred, fifty- three. That' s
wonderful, Andrea Niño. Thank you very much and before saying goodbye, I
would love you to help us and tell us that we have just been told
that tomorrow, Andrea Niño is going to give a message, and this message
is going to be given at ten in the morning, it is going to
be translated into all languages, languages, dialects, it is not going to
be translated and it is going to be translated and it is going to be
shown on radio, television, it is not going to be broadcast in all
digital media, etcetera. We are already aware that tomorrow we will receive a
message from Andrea Niño. What would be this final message and really thank you
infinitely for your time, your kindness and your kindness, your story. It
doesn' t define the experiences of your past They don' t have to
define who you are today. What happened you can' t change it,
but what you can change is what you' re going to do from now
on with your life wow how wonderful. Thank you so much, Andrea.
Thank you for the opportunity We invite you all to follow Andrea in her instagram.
They' re really going to learn a lot on their social networks.
Arroba is pure- souled, with double, please, pure- souled.
They can' t find him there. They' re gonna learn from a
lot of things. Get in there You' re going to see her and
it' s been a pleasure to me in privilege. We have a website,
a good question, point com and many blessings, Andrea you have.
Thank you. Leisme. Thank you very much. See you soon.